Re: Why true lilly's thread of near 9000 VIEWS was LOCKED

[true lilly]

HACK AWAY...
I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food...

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone.

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...

1 Chronicles - Chapter 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life... ...

...mind you, JACOB WAS, A BREEDER of CHAMPIONS...

[MoMo]

I trif to post this to make my ICKEST=TEAM TINTIN KILLER Point - A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS...THE ICKEST 'lions' PLAN TO DEVOUR AUSTRALIANS... SO 'they' ARE SLAVING TO CONvince THE WORLD of THE FILTHY LIE that, WE OF O'Zion "AREN'T HUMAN"...!!! http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=246

Night night, don't let the Bats of Darkness bite yer ass

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[true lilly]

For starters, the ONE thing 'they' change
is the first word,
in 'their' SATANIC PREACHING,
from, Think! to Think!,
because THINKING IS THE LAST THING
'they' "REQUIRE" FROM YOU!

I've left that as 'ninny' posted but have highlighted
the lies and deceptions designed to
twist YOUR THINKING
INTO THEIR SATANIC DOCTRINES:

11-08-2011, 06:32 AM #30101

ninny

8811

Charles Manson telephoning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3dfzTcfEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMAMRFE6ajo

notice he speaks of "The mark of the Beast"

Quote:

Charles Manson replies to concerns about a “New World Order” (Letter - July, 2011) Think! If a body (person) lies and was raised and taught to lie, and lies to self and lives with others who can't be truthful, how can they even know what knowing is or is not? How can they even understand the words and/or thoughts made up by the words? They are play-acting movies and TV game shows.(HOW? Through TRUSTING GOD'S WORD, as HE HAS PROVEN that HE CAN'T LIE!) You use the words "World Order", and you have thoughts in your head that came from someone else, that you don't even know what is or is not. You can't even use your own brain because others ‘been doing your thinking, and you haven't even been born in Truth. (I HAVE, why I DO KNOW THE NEXT BIT IS ALSO A BALD FACED LIE!)You were born 1000 and million-million light years old, but are trapped in the body others needed you to be, play, and carry the cross for – you don't even know what stupid is. ('ninny', TEAM TINTIN, ICKEST'S OBVIOUSLY DON'T!) And it would take 10 lifetimes running backwards through school to blink one eye.(MORE senseless dribble to KEEP YOU OFF BALANCE!) (and here, 'pure' TINTIN/ICKE=SATANIC RELIGIOUS PREACHING...) There is only one. One world is like – all water is one water. Real order is one. One is all, all and one is zero, nothing, and everything. World is already in its order.(TRYING to SPIN THAT TO ENGLAND, NOW? HOW BLOODY STUPID!) What you're talking and thinking is brainwash – ‘use your own head’ would mean being reborn ('he/they' MEANS YOU MUST DIE First!)and not picking the same old thoughts back up. Order is true in itself as it is. First is air. Air- without air there is no life on earth as I know and live it. (a DEAD Give Away, AND WHAT I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR POSTING THE TRUTH OF; air=oxygen=rust=DEATH=PRINCE of The AIR=DEATH, BUT 'they' IGNORE those millions of years ago when LIFE EXISTED ON EARTH, BEFORE OXYGEN FORMED and DEATH had NOT YET ENTERED THIS AGE of THIS SYSTEM of Things!)To destroy or distort air is out of order ('they' MEAN SATAN IS SO WEAK HE NEEDS US TO DIE TRYING TO PROTECT HIM)– governments, money churches, none of that means anything. The people of the Earth world are so warped, distorted, twisted, and filled with lies and fear, confusion, doubt, and cover-ups, greed, so on and on - that they can't see it if you show them.(NOT ALL, WE THANK GOD! But THAT IS WHAT 'they' BELIEVE OF YOU!) For over 100 years, people have been trying to show the commands that Air Is First, and not to use gas in the World Wars I and II. But people say; "How long before all the air on earth is gone, over, and all life is over?"… “100 years”… and the same with the order of where air comes from; trees, green things, water and its order.(still BEGGING WE DIE TO KEEP THE PRINCE of DEATH 'alive') Money and fear, sex and other levels of the world orders of death speak louder.(LIE! But 'they' DO CONTROL WEB/NET Forums and SILENCE those who THREATEN 'their' WEAK lord death) And real and truth is covered-up, lost from the real by the cover-ups of the unreal, and who gives a fucks rule. And the sellouts win again and time goes on and on, dragging the real order up and down, under and over, around in circles. (SHIT! TINTIN'S VERY OWN, SO OFTEN REPEATED Excuse for why he doesn't have the balls to WALK AWAY from HIS DEMONIC LUSTS, and PREACHES OUT OF BITTERNESS because he doesn't have the balls to FACE HIS MAKER ALONE, which HE WILL!) A lot of people say they would die before they would do this or that,(more than 'say' I've proven it time and time again, and doesn't that just show what WEAK, BITTER FOOLS 'they' ARE, that 'they' have only managed to NEARLY KILL ME, so far...) and they got ways they say they believe and want change. Then, when no one's looking, they're sucking on it or doing and going where they told and made someone do their will – that's not order, that's disorder = out of order. And that kind of thought and behavior covers up the real order of (more confusing, HYPNOTIC dribble to drive home, FIX 'their' Coded Order...) the ‘do or die’ Order. (ORDERING SENSELESS SLAUGHTERS) You're in a room, a car is running, and oil is destroying your air. Order says, "Turn the car off or give up the air". That's got nothing to do with 'will you suck or not suck?' There are people who would go to war and destroy their own world, children, and self before they would or could be truthful with what's inside their own minds' order.(THOSE PEOPLE ARE TINTIN, ASSANGE, ICKE and ALL THOSE GURUS of The Father of The Lie and Death, who ARE ALL TOO WEAK TO DEBATE ME, and little woman of NO WORLDLY POWER or CONNECTIONS!) I worked and got you… (established –ed.)(his coded CREDIT TO HIS MASTERS that INVENTED his persona, gave him his orders and CONTINUE TO PREACH THROUGH HIM VIA HIS 'Industry') and…and just like Boston Irish people, you were lying so you could make movies and dump it back on someone else. I forgot the rest of this.(see above, forgot his orders) It's without real reasons because there is no one left over from the last cross boss. Easy Charles Manson

source
Last edited by ninny; 11-08-2011 at 06:34 AM.

...now lets look at
"that" source...nothing much at all,
then click on Home...
THE "home" 'they' WANT YOU DEVOTED TO!
...and I CAN'T SHOW YOU, BECAUSE
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S
are VERY HEAVILY PROTECTED...in This,
CRUMBLING DYING Worldly System, because
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S,
are also CRUMBLING and DYING and CAN'T,
stand open and free to even the simplest scrutiny!

[Billy Ruben]

TRUE LILLY,STOP SPAMMING YOUR OWN THREADS,OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO READ OTHER PEOPLES POST ON YOUR THREAD,AND IT'S A LITTLE ANNOYING TO SCROLL DOWN FOR THE DEEP INSIGHTS,THAT OTHERS,NOT YOU,OFFER...SO IF YOU DON'T MIND,SHUT THE F*CK UP AND GIVE OTHERS A GO FOR A CHANGE,THAT IS ALL...

[true lilly]

So, what happened to "all threads ending at 68 pages"?
Oh, 'they' have to have the last page full of 'their' BS.
Rioters who shot at police
will be treated as attempted murderers

August 21, 2011
10:13AM
Alarming new footage shows rioters in England
shooting at police in a helicopter and on the ground.
Birmingham police say the perpetrators
will be treated as attempted murderers.
Read More

Re: TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM
true lilly on Thu Jul 28, 2011

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked
from David Icke's Official Forum.

Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS to 'make' his 'connections'...

Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
MADE HISTORY BY WINNING IT.

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Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...

Soaring dollar hits record high

Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.

Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.
Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam
have their appartment in Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.

The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in Port Arthur.
20 MAY. 13 days after the Massacre.
the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube
Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
From:News Limited newspapersJuly 28, 2011
12:00AM
17 comments
Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun

Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied
HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".
The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage
Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube Perth Now, 2 hours ago
Lady Gaga in YouTube copyright spat Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
Woman charged over State of Origin pee Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2011
Officer who sprayed boy to be charged Herald Sun, 22 Jun 2011
Horrific footage of Iranian jet crash Adelaide Now, 6 Jun 2011
"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.

Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for many years with many
of the survivors and victims' families, shared the disbelief and horror
about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."

See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM
Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from
David Icke's Official Forum.

[Billy Ruben]

WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!

Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .



Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...




LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch

...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.

lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.

CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.

Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch

...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...

Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!

Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .



Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...




LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' ),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???

And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...

JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.

so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...

I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE...

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htm






think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic

[true lilly]

Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that 'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS

And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH......TO,
those 'cleaning them up'... ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike
other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...

Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek
Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
17 comments

RELATED COVERAGE:
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NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


Two men were seriously injured in the explosion. Picture: Tess Follett Herald Sun
< Prev1 of 3Next >UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion
in Cannons Creek last night
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.
Neighbours felt shockwaves as the blast ripped through the area
about 11pm, with one of the men losing both of his legs in the accident.
The blast happened at a gathering of family and friends where the men in
their 20s were mixing commonly bought chemicals in a metal tin, with up
to 12 others standing back.
When asked if the explosion was caused by an amateur bomb,
Arson Squad Senior Detective Cameron Lunny said:
"I'd call it an improvised explosive device".
"It's been likened to a huge thunder clap from what I understand," he said.
He said the men were just experimenting with the chemicals, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, and that nothing sinister was at play.

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"They were just having a bit of a muck around I think,'' Sen Det Lunny said.
"There's certainly no indication there was anything apart from experimenting."
The 23-year-old Cannons Creek man and 24-year-old from Pakenham were
standing over the mixture, trying to bury it when it went off.
No-one else was hurt and there was no property damaged,
despite the strength of the blast.
Next door neighbour Arlene Trevethan said the explosion created shockwaves.
"It just shook the house. I came out and I thought it was a fire or something,'' she said.
Another neighbour initially thought an earthquake had struck.
Local Robert Dudgeon said he had heard similar explosions in the past, which police are investigating.
"There were others here over the past month or so,'' he said.
"One night there were three in a row. Whether it's the same source or not, I don't know."
Sen Det Lunny pleaded with others not to experiment with dangerous chemicals.
"We're getting a lot recently of people undertaking mixing of chemicals.
It just goes to show it's not a very smart thing to do and I just plead to
the people thinking about this not to do it - it's very, very dangerous."
He didn't say whether the injured men had sourced the recipe from the internet or whether charges would be laid.
The two men were airlifted to Melbourne hospitals where they remain in critical conditions.
Intensive care paramedic Ben Meadley said the men suffered extensive injuries.
"A 24 year-old man
suffered significant blast-type injures
to his legs and hands,
the type of injury you would more liken to
what you would see in a war situation
rather than in outer suburban Melbourne,'' he said.
"He also had severe airway burns and facial burns.''
The man was put into an induced coma
before he was flown to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a critical condition.
A 23-year-old man suffered burns to his face and arms and burns to his airway
which can cause swelling and restrict breathin.
Anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit Crime Stoppers
- with Shelley Hadfield
17 comments on this story


Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention 'that' thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... another
of 'their' Very Unfortunate 'mates' ...

...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' ...

Critically injured men 'were making an IED'

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion in Cannons Creek
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.

And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.

And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.

Listen to your masters,
'Jason'/'Billy Ruben', and,
"SHUT THE HELL UP,
about Australia!"

David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben

ahh, yes, but to WHOM....

...and, what and whom

will they be watching for...

11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News



Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?

It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.

Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine
- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.
But first, here's what FitzSimons says:

It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece. All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure, and my best hope is that this story
might give hope to those who contemplate it. And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.
... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....

Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... ...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
...remember, they have long controlled the
"PUBLIC RELEASE" Dates And TIMING of
IMPORTANT, RELATED, Scientific Discoveries...


Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.

A team of researchers from the University of WA
and Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.

The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"
Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made about the age of fossils.
The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.

"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( ...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING ...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)

Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003


Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH.



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So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.

And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.

And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.

And for how many years
have I warned that my enemies
are also enemies of Australia
and Every Living Soul who
DOESN'T HATE THE CREATOR OF LIFE...
...Too BLOODY Many!

RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011

...and, it's ALL THERE,
FREELY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE
who cares to put GOD'S WORD and
WHAT IS REAL IN THIS REAL WORLD,
ABOVE what GOD'S ENEMIES PREACH.

[MoMo]

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader.

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet.

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.

[Billy Ruben]

Do you want a lying fraud shill,representing and speaking for you,to the Christian God???
For years you have heard her claims,that she's had car bombings (which she changed to her daughter,recently),beatings twice,that put her in to hospital and that she is targetted by David Icke and Tintin,who run an International Cabal of Inept Hitmen.

She's deluded,that I would have sexual designs on herself,I detest the 50 year old prune.Slavic girls are beautiful,some,but I'm not even attracted to her ugly mind or mouth,so what is there to desire.I like functioning,mentally stable women,she's an erratic schizo psychopath.
I hit on people I would never want with forums,JD/John Drake being one,Vera Susa/True Lilly/Suzy Ryan,but if forced into a situation to choose between them both,I'll go twinky,and take JD's member deep in my mouth...eeeeeewww!!!!



But,the other day,True Lilly stepped over the line.She txt my missus,trying to stir trouble.She keeps all your data,if you're stupid enough to contact her and will never be left alone.I made that call from Sam's phone,cause she is disallowed and not trusted with home phones.But she's gone to far,with accusing all and sundry of child molestation,animal sex and more murderous plots,all of which is lies,as I filed a complaint with Ballarat Police and also informed them,of the slander she says against her former husband,who is allegedly a serving police officer.I wanted them to just question her,cause she'll go off the deep-end and start spouting the "Orange Order" is trying to kill me,that Israel is Australia and David Icke made my heater catch of fire,which is lies,she has animals in the house,she regulary sports photos of herself and family,sleeping with the doggies,they might be bored shitless of her endless rants,or it's some doggy-sex thingy going on with her clan or all of the above.

I was ignoring this forum,until I seen the Krokodile Thread and Zombie apocalypse...and stumbled on a post,where True Lilly constantly spams,Ciggy and I networking for child sex.I laughed at the pathetic moron at first and asked her nicely to stop.Where,delighted she finally got some attention,cause that is the only way she gets it,as I'm about to prove,with Tintins TNBTN thread.

That's her pathetic ploys which has snowballed into a very dangerous situation for her now.I am now,officially out to get her.For her own good,she must die,so she does'nt cause any more spiritual damage to herself.I'm doing her a favour.

Now lets prove what I'm saying.Her thread at the time,The Lying Conspiracy was being ignored,Vera Susa as it was known at David Icke forums,could'nt take the silence and miffed by rebuttals by the member Cori,she goes into meltdown.

What I want you to see,is she can't even live up to her own word,where she,quits the thread only to come back ten pages later,spamming the shit out of it,like she does here,when she can't win,bury the embarressing questions,cause everything she says,is a fuckin lie...everything.Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

***to The Orange Order,my fees are $20,000,the head is deliverable as proof,I need a bogus marriage in Groningeng,for citizenship and she must be a nymphomaniac,to keep me occupied,while the search for Mr Ruben winds down,that should take a couple of days,considering True Lilly calls the local cops goat fuckers.Turn a blind eye fraternal policeman,we serve the same masters,Lucifer The Light bearer.


Here' her same MO and tactics for the last 5 years,the ignorant fucking nonce she is...kick it,really locals,kick it.

Lilly's Kharma,1,2,3 and 4...Bugger you bitch...and I mean bugger,as buggery,in the biblical sense,you know,KNOWING YOUR DOG BIATCH...





Suzy's lover that started the heater on fire...I suggest a good grooming in future Suzy,before the friction of love...

Cori's pleas to be left alone as usual ignored,she's the criminal stalker,like she accuses me of...it's her kharma and feel no shame in what I do in future...



and the skin crawls...errrr!!!!

Jesus may have lost faith and given up,but I won't...

Time to start screaming BIATCH!!!!







Hey Cori,
I will take Germany as a second choice...Ich Bin Ein Berliner...visit Hansa studios and Groningeng is just over the border by train,so I can collect my weed on regular occassions and hang out with Jan at the red-light district,sounds good to me...


Oh did I mention Ballarat Police confirmed True lilly/Vera Susa/Suzy Ryan is a complete liar about the car-bombings (none have occurred in 30 years) and that she has'nt been beaten up and put in hospital,mmmmmm,careful what you wish for Suzy...hehehe,
I can blow cars up without a frigging bomb,little missy.It's just a bad option in case INNOCENT GOOD PEOPLE GET HURT OR KILLED,hehehe,the up close and personal touch is the go.

For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!

EVIL is; denying and trying to force the world into denying,
the truly life saving warnings (given to us from the beginning),
in this age when we need to hear them most, and science
keeps proving that those warnings were given to us, from the
beginning, so that we would not have to suffer the first death,
under the rule of the prince of the air, or, second, and permanent,
death.

EVIL are; all those who worship, the prince of the air,
the father of the lie, and his religions of death worship,
they have shoved down the world's throat on his behalf
(for their own selfish desires), since the first man rejected
his God given authority and handed his duty of care over
to a self serving, castrating, woman.

EVIL,is spreading lies and slander and sugar coating it as the "Word Of God",EVIL and PETTY is Suzy Ryan/True Lilly of Ballarat.EVIL is those who spread lies and rumours about being victimized to try and garner favour,money and free computers.Like you did at DIF and with Runlikehell.EVIL is every filthy lying dying word that excretes from that chasm you call a mouth.You'd do more good filling it with dogknot than ever uttering a word ever again.And the way you speak lies and slander,some would be happy to put you down as the rabid little thing that you are.I will not stop and continue to heckle,cajole,derail and threaten until I get my chance to debate you face to face...I'll be using a form of "Charades" so even an idiot such as yourself,can't misunderstand my message.See you, oh so very soon,Suzy Ryan.Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!...Cthulhu!

That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about
All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE
OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH...

There needs to be peace in the world.
But you see,there are some weird beliefs from religeous types,who not only welcome and celebrate our destruction,to us and our children,there are some who cannot wait for the seals of revelations to unfold,fruiters and fruit-loops like our very own forum prophet,True Lilly.I know her belief system,I know she's a Gerald Flurry fruiter groupie,but you see,in the interest of sorting the chaff from the wheat,I was hoping,Suzy Ryan/True Lilly,Gerald Flurry and all those type followers could hold their breathe now,and take no more,to set an example,from their sacrifice,that they trully loved us and stick by their beliefs,that they foist upon us,not so gentlely.It would be an exhibition of their true faith and belief and would applaud their move to do so,as I continue,to breathe the fumes from Beezlebubs arse,cause I'm a sell out and a proud satanist,for I cower and wish to continue to live.

God,she and her ilk are starting to sound like these death cults.If one had a choice,I'll take the Moonies,with wild sex and suicide at the end of it,but to live as a sexually frustrated fucked up christian and suicide without the drugs and group-sex,I just feel,somewhere,they got the short-end of the stick.If not,a few sandwhiches,short of a picnic....DER!!!!

[Billy Ruben]

And isn't that exactly what the 16 Moderators
on David Icke Official Forums do:
SELL that "ONENESS" AGENDA;

MOCK ANYONE NOT SELLING THE VIEWS 'THEIR'
MAIN STREAM PROMOTED ORGANISATIONS.

And, IF THE MOCKING FAILS TO CONVERT or SILENCE THEM,
'THEY' SIMPLY BAN THEM, OVER ALL 'THEIR' MAIN STREAM
PROMOTED FORUMS.

Yep, it's all the same mobs, as any Google search for information
on the ACTUAL, Secret Religious Agenda behind 'David Icke, shows.
As no matter how specifically you word your search, what little 'they'
offer is well and truly flooded out with glorious praise for Icke and
vicious attacks against those who have cared to warn others
of the hypocrisy of that man and his backers, supporters and
followers.
Such as demanding excuses for all 'his/their' hypocrisies be accepted
as some sort of evidence of 'humaness & holiness', while utterly
damning any of his/their opponents for life, on any unrelated
minor human failing, whether real, perceived or INVENTED.

btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.
Those who in the real world, simply can't afford
to be known to associate with the likes of 'Billy Ruben's',
'cori's' or each other.

And those who still have to act friendly in the real world,
when they are not busy posting as 'Billy Ruben's', 'cori's',
and the other on line 'names' that 'they' hide behind, while
plotting with 'their' real world, secret associates, for the
installation of 'their' Beastly One World Religion.

How do I know?
How didn't 'they' know I do?
Too busy inventing lies 'they' lie I say, mean and believe,
to bother listening to what I actually say, mean and know.
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btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.

uh-huh,did you know I outed myself before I even joined Sodlike you lying,faker,extortionist fuckwit???
Absolute no brainer beating your lies fool,no effort,but enjoyable all the same.

What's your next trick True Lilly,same old MO for years,I know you...do you get it,inside and out...I know you...and run rings around your arguements,where a stupid shitbag like you can't understand the level of abuse you DESERVE,do you get it,it does'nt make you look good and me bad,you just demonstarte your stubborn stupidity...if someone needs a good beating to bash sense in them,it is you,madam...greatest dipshit I ever met online.This all snowballed from one lie...and now,I love it,ner,ner,ner,ner

We've gone through all this True Lilly,these days you speak untruths,lies,yes,distortions,just to get me to answer your piss poor boring offer nothing,crap-house threads...and I have the pleasure knowing that and to tell you to your face and publicly humiliate you,cause you offer,nothing...nothing at all...I found out,if you lived by the bible tonight,retard,you,as a woman,are not,NOT ALLOWED to preach the gospel,not only that,you twist and distort it.You see,you do this,you get attention,hate usually,cause you're a loner and lost your family support and love,Your ex-hubby is Mum and Dad,thanks to your madness...isn't there a little bit that feels pain reading that,can't you make amends and be a good mum,instead of a raving lunatic...love your people and keep it shut for a while,OK,,little Suzy.

Here,I got YOU real good this time


Lilly,what does this say,know thy place...and shut the mouth,you have no right to speak of the bible,here's the farkin proof,I got you...

Listen mental case,I answered this post in another thread,enjoy it while it last mate,every thread you've done and will do in future,will be put in your sub-forum.And THEN,I'll lobby Sod-Admin,with a bit of coke and a blowjob,to keep you there and post no-where else on this forum,so lap it up bitch,time is short,ner,ner,ner,ner

[/quote]
True Lillys' Pm where she's BOASTFULLY proud of losing her family to have communion and telepathic Rapport with demons...uh,I mean't GOD...read on.Remember,she used my PM's first and my Phone TXT's,so I'm completely blameless,bringing this revelation to you...and proud!!!

Married: 21-11-1981
First of 3 children to that, my one husband,
Born: 12-11-1982
Followed by 9 straight years of breastfeeding and/or being pregnant.

So old fashioned, you have to go back to genesis,
and that's why all my, worldly lusting, family hated me,
but failing to make me reject my faith in God,
they turned on and still, sabotage my children,
for which, they will answer to GOD'S Judgement,
and my children will be forgiven their errors,
taught them by those they can't believe, could,
hate God so bitterly...yet...

You see Suzy,I knew your family turned on you,look at some of the things you do that drive people away.God does'nt want neurotic followers,you have to have a normal life too...

Breastfeeding is excellent...both our kids did two years each on the tit,also mixed with food and drink as they developed,it was my idea back then too.Our kids did'nt cry,whinge or keep us up at night,pretty blessed we were back then...My ideas,not hers...was'nt a bad bloke either.

You know nothing, because they are the same people of your camp, that loaded so many fools with their bad 'intelligence' about me (too busy selling the lie, to bother to get to actually know those they lie about: 'insider' knowledge doesn't come from close proximity, but closeness in mind and heart), in an effort to cover their sins of sacrificing the small, weak and powerless, to acquire their personal desires. The same people who hate anyone who loves doing just service. The same people, so stupid as to destroy every blessing I freely gave and shared with them, rather than ever admit those blessings came from their own, faithful lover of The Creator. I simply walked away from them so they wouldn't keep compounding their sins, but they are even more stupid than I wanted to admit, and keep sending their little lap dogs to snap at me and mine...with things like trying to blow up my daughter with her first car. So stupid that they keep proving their associations (in those snipping efforts), with the Low Lives that their public persona's are held to be 'above', and so also undermining any chance of recovery from their coming, very personal 'crashes' that I kept privately warning them they are headed for if they don't at lest relent if they can't yet repent. So stupid they stepped up their evils, from under the (now transparently thin), cover of The LOWEST of LOW of 'their' associates (that in turn expose 'their' 'powerful' associates who really can't afford to be seen to share those same, Low associations), rather than simply back off. Powerful associates I also warned of the dumb bunnies and traitors in their circles.
So, in your case, I'm glad you keep peddling their crap.
And, they should also know by now, how many and who, of those lap dogs and dumb bunnies, did not pass on my warnings, that they really wish they had have received...oh, it won't make those 'family' and 'friends' any more inclined to finally do right by me, far too blinded by pride, but they will be blaming and turning on more of their own ilk to punish them, for what they are too proud to admit, their own pride cost them. Which in turn will further piss off the Powerful people as they do their cost benefit analysis of the association they can afford to maintain.

If I were bitter, I would have been sneaking around taking vengeance or sitting back silently waiting, to enjoy my enemies coming just deserts, but instead I keep risking my life, by standing in the middle of the road, Calling, "CAR!"...and it breaks my heart for them, to see how much they would rather die, than admit I could, let alone would, still care to warn them.

so... and try to think, you may actually learn something worth understanding.

Ha! and who DIDN'T see this coming!

Craig Oxley+Cruise, David Icke+tintin,

Cruise=tintin,

'the jesuits did it','cos they are the jews',

Unhinged Minds=Unhived Lizards,

and so on, throughout CONspiracy land...

What?Are you going to spam your way through life now...AND,I thought you did'nt believe in the Reptilians,eating your own words,not hard to do...If I remember from your mad rantings,did'nt Tintin = David Icke,or you finally figured out your error there...sheesh!!!

The timing was 'interesting', because it was posted,
after my ex left...mmm...yes, and more besides. See,
I was going to have a rest, after posting about 'Billy Ruben's'
latest phone threats, when who should rock up, for the second,
unannounced time today, but my ex. Only this time, he simply had to,
drop some *KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats at me,
and 'arrange' to get my son out of the house, tomorrow, the 26th,
yep, he also had to randomly 'drop' the fact that that is tomorrow's date,
and yeah, that is 'that date' on which 'they' just luuvvv trying to
bash me to death.

The message was timely, because it addresses what it is
that I am most hated for;
simply, my faith, in The Perfect Justice of Our Loving Creator,
and that the countless blessings I've enjoyed, I've always credited to God,
and that it has never been in my heart to blame God, for my sins and errors,
or the evils of those who knowingly, willing, hate and fight God...
...as 'The Billy Ruben's' have always been desperate to force me to do,
by inflicting great injustices and evils on me AND MINE, then cackling,
"where's your god now"...while missing the point, that it is My God,
The Creator of us all, Who brought me into Their Lives, to be a witness
of His countless blessings, and warn them against choosing to reject
The Saving Grace of His Living Word.

*KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats:
you know, the sort of things diagnosed sociopaths just have to
admit behind closed doors, like admissions of past crimes against
you and promises of more to come, while sneering that 'no one
will believe you, including the police'; Just As His Very Public
Defender, 'Billy Ruben', keeps Publicly Boasting He Does, and
Publicly Threatening, To Do More and Worse.

Hey Suzy Ryan,
send my regards and love to your ex-hubby,Billy ruben2 Ryan,we have concluded after the meeting with the Australian Division of the Orange Order,to get your son out of the house,before I "Whack" you and take your head for payment,as we do sex rites and magic rituals with your corpse to curse you for your next life,I want you to come back as a fly,because,you'll be a maggot first,then,I'll catch you,then I'll pull your wings off and you wont be a fly anymore,but a Walk,then I swat you and you'll be a Dead...

Fark You Bitch...and your son should be left alone,cause you're a nutter,spreading shit in his brain...

The above spammed bullshit is the usual crap she's been shoving down everybodies throats for the last two weeks.BOYS AND GIRLS AT HOME,DON'T YOU JUST HATE JESUS AND GOD WHEN IT COMES FROM THE FILTHY DYING CHASMS LIKE THIS LOUDMOUTHED FREAK.SHE DOES GOD A DIS-SERVICE...HAVE SONG BITCH...F*CK YOU GOD...

"It is our duty to insult him,F*ck you god,Strike me down if you dare you tyrant,you non-existant fraud..."

Hey Lilly,since you're brave because you stand by God and all that...can we have a nice picture of your face,please?
I'd like to design your very own Christian Prophetess Icon,it would be a gas and very,very funny!Trust me for once...

Please don't spam my threads True Lilly,thankyou,love Billy...

she is Barking Mad isn't she Billyboy?

I found your reminiceings interesting until Lilly Queen of Bullshit showed up and flooded your Thread like she does everywhere on this Forum.

My condolences ol' chap.

Thankyou...that's really want I want to do,write about the day that's been and other things,then,ya get SPAMMED TO DEATH AND OUT THE DOOR...it changes day to day,you come here to defend yourself from "babyfucker" allegations,then,you remember the free atmosphere and pink,then you remember you liked the place...so,good,you get bent,it's been a nice day and night,so,you offer the forum something a little different and get shat upon from forum prophet,although false she be,forum nutter,stalker,crazy woman,True lilly...

Glad you see it and thanks for the up about writing shit,appreciate it.Billy...

...seems I'm not supposed to post what I found...

...PRAY.

that's right...

It began like this

then encrypted rambling spam...

then True lilly started to screaming insanely,because the need to SPAM was so great

... ... ... ... ...

got to you did'nt it?

then half an hour later,you spammed,and did'nt you let it out.
You have a problem Suzy,besides being a closet pisspot.
Actually,come to think about it,you're irredeemable...

You have clear issues...I could've saved you the cost of a SMS,I replied,U R insane...

and what's worse,f*ck-all to use for the bloody Powerball.

Pissed off...

then,sure as shit,easy to predict,Billy gets niggley...

she spams some more

Lilly...

Listen here,there's no need to spam my fucking thread,ok?

I made it plain I read you fucking threads,got it?

No more fucking spam,you fucking old biddy...

I can't take it no more...

...and thirst for blood,nearing a coronary,he refrains from swearing...

So delving into her childhood by telepathic ethernet,I found rather disturbing,but strangely stimulating images and references..

You see Lilly,being the country girl that you are and always been,...this is love.



Not just being a CHAMPION BREEDER,BUT YOU SEE,when you was little,most kids learn't,from dogs,the 70's my era,what swingers party was on for the night...and for me,the local toilet wall...and THAT was eye-opening.

But not you,no...out there on the meadows,soft breeze in your hair,dandelions float and sway dropping its seed in mysterious locations,just solitude,you and a horse with a rather large erect penis...

which led to much deeper and psychological complexities turned into a positive and prosperous venture..

But this love and fascination was not lost,now was it?
There was a market for horse stimulators and this sticky enterprise paid handsome dividends...



And yourself,being a proud and rather talented and gifted horse stimulator,made a nice handsome living...until much further down the track,when you discovered that copious ingestion of the spirit known as Gin,helped you contact the God Of Oztralia and soaked in Gin you delivereth...

Many unkind messages...

Uh OK,True Lilly,your God gives Allah head...there,insulted???

There,take that and the toilet paper you keep quoting,The BlueLetterBible,suck on my littl'un...BIATCH!!!

She tried talking over the top of me,hahahahaha,I laughed in her face about exposing her for years of lies and relying on the generosity of others with those lies.I also said,the only reason she outed her name,phone number etc,was to lend credibilty to those lies...and that's excatly how it is...besides,she's completely mad.For now on,she only fools the fools,like Palomino,but others who suspected truth to her...there is none.She called me a big dickless cock and hung up...wooooooo,arguement defeating line that one...

It's a small forum dip-shit,you can't spam and hide and hope half a dozen posters will help bury it.How'd you feel about Cori being here last night,oh,that's right,hahahahahahahaha,you ran away and logged off,like you do everytime that tiny brain has no way of worming its way out,hahahahahaha...F*ck Yeah...

But on another matter:
This is a "dumb crime",
of 'Billy Ruben aka Jason aka Jase';
Received: 19-8-2011

Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up,cops wont help u
.up urs sweetie

No 'Billy Ruben', so why don't 'you' enlighten us,
as to WHY 'you' love to PUBLICLY BRAG that 'you' HAVE
POLICE WILLING TO ACT CORRUPTLY FOR 'YOU'?[/size]
Just to make it clear;
how does 'Billy Ruben' believe this 'proves' that
I am 'not' a victim of bitter individuals who are also
criminally corrupt public officials, who cover each other's arses?

Billy Says:

Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up,cops wont help u
.up urs sweetie

And it get 'better'. Just in...

Sucked in jewish dog
rooting lying slut,do u
know the real reason
i got the cops to
ignore u,huh?ur a
goner

Soon as negotiations
r finalised demons
will disapear u,errrr!

well,call the police and file a complaint

And it get 'better'. Just in...

Prove it slag,someone must've hacked my phone,I did'nt say that....

Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!

JUST RANG THE LYING COW,SHE AVOIDED ALL THE QUESTIONS HAD NOTHING TO SAY AND HER SPEECH WAS SO SLOWED AND SLURRED,SHE WAS DOSED UP ON SOMETHING,PITY,IT DOES'NT REMOVE HER DELUSIONS ABOUT EVERYONE SHE INTERACTS WITH.I WROTE HER OFF,NO SWEARING OR THREATS AND LAUGHED IN HER FACE FOR DESTROYING HER CREDIBILTY (VERY LITTLE OF) AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DENIES AND SPAMS AWAY,EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SHE'LL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT."sHE SAYS,I GOT TO GO NOW,THANKYOU",IN THAT HIDEOUS PIXIE SHIT TONE VOICE OF HERS,UGLY OUTSIDE AND UGLY TO THE BONE THAT ONE IS...THIS IS VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP WAY OVER THE LINE,FOR TOO LONG,THIS HAS BEEN COMING...SHE'S SO UGLY,YOU GOT NO IDEA,THE VULGARNESS OF ITS VOICE,HIDEOUS.HERE'S HER PHONE NUMBER:0424705576...SORRY,I CHOSE BROWN,BROWN FOR POOP THAT DRIVELS OUT HER MOUTH...

[Billy Ruben]

Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note*

...or, a SHOVEL...
...'Billy Ruben', please stop threatening me with death,
over the phone...
...and in other ways...

it would be really nice if what I post Would appear AS I write and format it
first time, every time...
but that ain't gunna happen, is it....prob for the best....

LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR...AND PROVE IT!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!

iT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY,YES,SO WHY WASTE IT MAKING UP STORIES,THAT YOU LAUGH IN MY FACE,I DO THAT TO YOU,YOU HANG UP,EVERYTIME,YOU MISERABLE OLD GOAT.yOU GOT YOUR CRACKPOT MATES...AND I HAVE MY FAMILY,RIGHT HERE AND NOW,LOVING BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,SAME AS WHAT YOU USED TO HAVE,UNTIL YOU DID AN ABRAHAM...AND ACTUALLY SACRIFICED THEM FOR YOUR LOVING BENEVOLENT GOD,THAT PUT CHILDPORN ON YOUR PC,TOLD YOU HE'S A DEMON,BUT OH NO,YOU KNOW BETTER...STILL GOING THROUGH YOUR THREAD,QUIET YOU,OH,YOU SPAMMED,BAD GIRL,REVENGE...BUT SHE LIVES ALONE,SO WHO PUT THE CHILD-PORN THERE,SHE DID,TRYING TO SET HER FAMILY UP,OR SHE GENUINELY LIKES IT,WELL,SHE CAN TELL THAT TO THE JUDGE


Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!

Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!

and more babyfuckers and occultist,that she knows nothing about,hence the ineffective Kinesiology bullshit she recommends...

you are the babyfucker and have childporn,cause you're a sick fucked up unit and blame others,time for Gaol Suzy,I will use this next with the police,don't believe,just watch me,babyfucker...

Hang on,I forgot,back in a sec...F*ck,God wiped my mind clear...ah,that's right,bumped,the thread of importance,the one that shows Suzys pre-occupation with child porn and accusing all and sundry of doing it,Go on,ring her phone,just to hear that evil,pixie voice of hers,she's a hideous troglydite...horrible,evil nasty witch,beware little children and puppies and especially little kitty friends,evil,pure evil...Hansel and Gretel met their end with this one long ago...she uses puppies instead of candy...
0424705576

...and like she accused Ozpixie as Christine,the one who blackmails men after making them F*ck goats and when I investigated,turns out True Lilly and I have no idea of her first name,she denies she made the post,when I found it and replicated it...lying bitch,but here's the truth...it's her and her mob,that sleep with the doggies...errrrrrr,Cthulhu



F*ck You,Zieg Heil!!!You are a parasiteFACT!!!I AM CAT!!!For The CHILDREN!!!
now how does that feel dragon,to be on the receiving end...Grrr,take that!!!errrrrrrrrrrrrr,CTHULHU!!!...and you made me hate God,now,I hate you...GRRRRR

[MoMo]

Kitty Kats protest Suzis aka Tru Lilly Spamming!!!!!! plus, she complained about 'cat Posts', what kind of savage barbarian is she???? Take heed suzi wuzi aka tru lilly, we'll shit in your hats and garden!!!!



Send in the Kittys.....................

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git yer groove on!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWZwLCKyR1Q




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[MoMo]

fuk suzis aka tru lillys complaints about Kity Kat Posts.

Suzi, aka tru lilly, listen to this hooman









































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[true lilly]

So, how much, relevant, globally important news,
have 'they' covered in 'their' spam of personal attacks?

I haven't take 'them' off my foes list to bother looking for,
what's never there...an explanation of why: 'they' insist,
that no one read, let alone consider, real world news,
in real world time with extra links provided, and share with
others, by further expounding and posting, on the topic...

...let alone offer any counter argument, to any and all of,
The Topics that 'they' hate, being asked of,
and go rabid over being covered
and insane at being answered, in any way at all.

See,
Australia is pretty important,
to a lot of peoples,
from a lot of nations...
...and it's pretty important to Australia,
to be careful about who we believe, and
who we know to want to be, Loyal Australians...
...or intend turning Australia into a land
ruled by the ways of the lands
they claim to want to escape...

Pratibha Devisingh Patil

Pratibha Devisingh Patil
is the 12th and current President
of the Republic of India
and first woman to hold the office.

She was sworn in as President of India
on 25 July 2007,
succeeding Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam
and after beating her rival
Bhairon Singh Shekhawat.

Patil claims to have
spoken to the spirit of the deceased leader (Baba Lekhraj)
at their headquarters in Mount Abu, Rajasthan.
"Dadiji ke shareer mein baba aye ...
Maine unse baat ki (Baba entered Devi’s body
and he communicated to me through her),"
she said on TV camera.

Presidential styles of
Pratibha Patil
Her Excellency Pratibha Patil,
President of the Republic of India

Indian state
mulls ban on black magic
From correspondents in Mumbai
From: AFP
September 04, 2011 12:21PM

CHANTING to cure snakebites, claiming to be a reincarnated spouse to
obtain sex, and charging for miracles could soon be banned by an Indian
state seeking to stop charlatans preying on the vulnerable.

Many superstitions are widely held in India but a campaign group
is lobbying hard for a new law in the western state of Maharashtra to
outlaw several exploitative activities, with penalties of fines or up
to seven years in jail.

But the push to pass the
Maharashtra Prevention
and Eradication of Human Sacrifice
and Other Inhuman, Evil Practices
and Black Magic Bill
has not received unanimous support.

Some Hindu nationalists fear the legislation seeks to move beyond the
excesses named in its title and might be used to curb cherished religious freedoms.

One right-wing association, the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, called it
"a draconian law targeting faith",
denounced its proponents as "atheists" and called for supporters to
lobby assembly members to oppose it and demand amendments.

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The founder and executive president of the Maharashtra Blind Faith
Eradication Committee, which has been calling for a law for the last
two decades, is undeterred and hopes other states will follow suit.

"Superstitions are rampant all over India but at the moment there is
no law which stops this type of activity," Narendra Dabholkar said.

"There are laws against witchcraft but they're limited to a particular type of
witchcraft. This is much wider and more encompassing."

The draft law, supported by Maharashtra's ruling Congress-National Congress Party
coalition, aims to target "quacks and conmen" who exploit widely-held
superstitions and the ignorant, particularly in rural areas.

In May this year,
police said they had foiled
an alleged attempt to abduct and
kill a seven-year-old girl
in a village near Nashik,
northwest of Mumbai,
as part of a ritual
to find hidden treasure.

And last year, a childless couple in a remote village
some 675km east of Mumbai
were arrested for allegedly
killing five young boys
because a religious mystic told them
it would help the woman to conceive.

Practices to be banned by the proposed law include beating a person to exorcise
ghosts or making money by claiming to work miracles.

Treating a dog, snake or scorpion bite with chants instead of medicine, and
seeking sexual favours by claiming to be an incarnation of a holy spirit or
the client's wife or husband in a past life would also be proscribed.

Some critics, however, say the draft law does not go far enough and
has been watered down since it was first mooted way back in 1995
due to protests from pro-Hindu groups.

"In my opinion the bill that has ultimately come into Maharashtra suggests nothing
new. It doesn't give anything additional," said Sanal Edamaruku, president of
the Indian Rationalist Association.

Concerns about the draft law's impact on legitimate religious practices from Hindu
nationalist groups such as the Shiv Sena in Maharashtra and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have delayed its passing.

They say it could be used to prevent common Hindu rites like the "havan" ritual,
in which a consecrated fire is lit in the home to chase away evil spirits.

Dabholkar rejects the charge that the bill is anti-religion.

"In the whole of the bill, there's not a single word about God or religion.
Nothing like that. The Indian constitution allows freedom of worship and
nobody can take that away," he said.

"This is about fraudulent and exploitative practices."

For Edamaruku, whose organisation seeks to debunk superstition and promote
scientific reasoning, a new India-wide law against charlatans is vital to build on
the great strides made by the country in recent years.

Continued belief in superstitions and
black magic"will hinder India's
development," he said. "A countrywide law is needed.
We need to fight
against ignorance."

...So, WHY AREN'T WE
ALLOWED TO FIGHT AGAINST
The IGNORANCE of RELIGIONS
that ARE FLOODING INTO AUSTRALIA...

Nauru, PNG options illegal - Bowen
Nauru, PNG options illegal - Bowen

10:36AM
AAP
LEGAL advice has ruled out
the offshore processing
of asylum seekers
in PNG and Nauru,
Immigration Minister says.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen
says he will release the Solicitor-General's report today.
The Daily Telegraph

IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
says the Solicitor-General has ruled out the offshore processing of
asylum seekers in Papua New Guinea and Nauru as a result of the High
Court decision last week.

He has told the ABC's Insiders program that he will release the Solicitor-General's report later today.

"What that advice tells us is that not only is the Government's declaration
of Malaysia invalid, obviously under the High Court decision, but also
minister (Philip) Ruddock's declarations of Nauru and PNG should also
held to be invalid," Mr Bowen said.

"And that the Solicitor-General and two other senior counsel can have no confidence
that an arrangement with PNG or Nauru is possible under existing law as a
result of this judgment.''

Mr Bowen said the report would shape the Government's future decision making.

"Frankly, it should also inform Mr Abbott's decision because he has incorrectly
stated that there's no implication for Nauru under this judgment and that it simply untrue."<u>

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He said the Government needed to work through the options, one of which could be amending the Migration Act.</u>

"Clearly the High Court has interpreted the Migration Act in this way and it
would be open to the Parliament to change the Migration Act to deal with
how the HIgh Court has interpreted it and that's one of the options
that would be available.

"Quite clearly under all the legal advice, if Mr Abbott wanted to go down the
Nauru option he would need legislative change. He would need it on
several bases.

"And what is very clear from the High Court judgment is you could not send
unaccompanied minors in any workable way to Nauru or anywhere else.
That's a significant change."
More to come...
____________________________________________________________

...'reads' like, 'MORE FOREIGN young MEN to COME...
...and We CAN'T STOP THEM...under current law...'

...child soldiers at 12, 14, 17...
COMMITTED TO SPREADING ISLAM...
...still 'minors' when they get here,
where we are, NOT ALLOWED,
By UN PANDERING Law, to
Re-educate them to Understanding,
OUR Nations, Christian Based Ways...

__________________________________________________________________

The rise of
Middle Eastern crime
in Australia
Former NSW detective Tim Priest
was one of the front-line cops
who lead the war against crime
in the drug-ridden streets of Cabramatta.

Yet he found himself waging his biggest battle not against the drug gangs
but against the very organisation he worked for.

Eventually, he could stand it no longer and spoke out
about the politics and bureaucratic bungling,
chronic lack of resources and crazy policy decisions
that seem endemic to the New South Wales Police Service.

For this, he was labelled a 'whistleblower' and ultimately
railroaded out of the force.

Parliamentary enquiries subsequently proved that
Tim Priest had spoken the truth and,
perhaps more shockingly,
that what the newspapers reveal
is merely the tip of the iceberg.

Tim Priest teamed up with academic Richard Basham
to publish a book, To Protect and to Serve.
It is available at all bookstores.

It is required reading for every person
who is concerned about crime in New South Wales
and why the police are afraid of the ethnic gangs.

This article was
first published in the January 2004
issue of Quadrant.

It is re-published here with the permission of Tim Priest.
[url=http://www.australian-news.com.au/The
rise of Middle Eastern crime in Australia.pdf]Download[/url] a
printable version (pdf file 308 Kb)
http://www.australian-news.com.au/Tim_Priest.htm

______________________________________________________

Shootings turn quiet streets
into a war zone
Nick O'Malley, Nick Ralston
September 3, 2011

Families are being forced to move out as
drive-by attacks create neighbourhoods of fear,
write Nick O'Malley and Nick Ralston.

The family had fled Afghanistan through Iran five years
ago and built a new life in Sydney. Asieh had finished school at St
Marys and done well. She was studying for a medical science exam when,
about 10 o'clock on June 30, the gunshots broke the night.

It wasn't the first time.

Shots had been fired in Price Street, Merrylands, in May. When the Herald
visited this week, a ''for rent'' sign was on the wooden fence at the
front of Asieh's house. Furniture was on the lawn awaiting removal.

Asieh wouldn't be photographed, nor did she want her full name published.

''You don't expect it to happen in a country like this,'' she said.

Next door, her neighbour, a short woman aged 68 with a worn and friendly face, was watering her olive trees.

She wouldn't be named or photographed either. She seemed resigned to violence in the street.

''I've been here 50 years, I raised my boys here, I'm close to my church, I don't want to go. I don't know what to do.''

She pointed across the road to a new two-storey home.

''Look there, a nice family, two kids, they just built their house and they want to sell it, but no one will buy.''

At night she rolls steel shutters over her front windows.

''I know the bullets can come through but it feels better.''

She is looking forward to summer, when it stays light longer.

People on Price Street are reluctant to use names, but
they know why their street is being shot up. Their neighbour is Wahiba
Ibrahim, the matriarch of the Ibrahim family, which has been the target
in a series of shootings across Sydney over the past 15 months.

The Ryde home of her daughter, Armani Stelio, was
peppered in a drive-by attack in November and two months later there
was a shooting outside Wahiba Ibrahim's Merrylands home.

The shootings followed a series of tattoo parlour
attacks, drive-by shootings and brawls that were believed to be related
to a feud between the gang Notorious, which is associated with the
Ibrahim family, and the Comanchero Motorcycle Club. But police believe
some of the recent drive-by shootings were carried out by members of the
Hells Angels.

Asieh and her parents don't care who is pulling the trigger.

Ten minutes away at Greenacre a mower roars at the back
of a fibro house while a tired-looking woman wearing an apron and
holding a Barbie doll politely but firmly asks to be left alone.

Last Monday night about a dozen shots were fired back

and forth between a pair of cars out the front.

A police media release described the two bullets that slammed into the family home as ''stray''. Little comfort.

Across the road, two doors down live another couple. She is 89, he is 91. They are happy to talk, but will not be named.

They were in their living room when the gunfire started.

''I thought it was firecrackers, but he said it was
guns,'' she says, pointing to her husband, who was about to head off to
the shops. Police have since arrested three people.

Drive-by shootings were not a part of Sydney's crime
culture until the late 1990s, says the former assistant NSW police
commissioner Clive Small.

He says they are a tactic often used by Middle Eastern
crime gangs, whose members often come from cultures where gun ownership
and use is far more common than in Australia.

There were 60 drive-by shootings in Sydney last year, and
70 in 2009. But some local government areas have been suffering
disproportionately.

Since 2007 there have been 29 in Bankstown, 43 in Fairfield and 24 in Auburn.

Each time a thug in a car opens fire they not only
spread fear through a community, they put innocent lives at risk, Small
says.

Bob Knight, 66, was driving his truck past a KFC car park
on Milperra Road when a shootout erupted between rival gangs in June
2009.

He was hit in the head by a ''stray'' bullet and died in his truck cabin.

Arrests tend to slow the number of shootings, Small says, but gangs fill vacuums and the shooting soon breaks out again.

He believes public gun play is a sign of an immature criminal.

''Sadly, it is only going to go away when they get more professional at their business.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/shootings-turn-quiet-streets-into-a-war-zone-20110902-1jq2f.html#ixzz1WrneTimF

Presidential styles of
Pratibha Patil
Her Excellency Pratibha Patil,
President of the Republic of India

Patil
Pratibha Women Cooperative Bank
Main article: Pratibha Mahila Sahakari Bank
Pratibha Mahila Sahakari Bank was a cooperative bank
set up by Patil in 1973 to empower women.

The license for it to operate as a bank
was revoked in 2003
by the Reserve Bank of India
for alleged financial irregularities.

Among the irregularities listed
were the loans policy of the bank
and loan interest waivers given,
among others, to Patil's relatives.Patil was one of the chairpersons of the bank
and a number of her relatives were also directors.

Allegations of shielding her brother
on a murder charge
Main article: Vishram Patil murder case...
The lawyer Mahesh Jethmalani said that two CDs have surfaced
which contain incriminating material against Patil's brother.
The CDs contain footage of the elections
for the distict Congress presidentship in Jalgaon.

Jethmalani offered to place both CDs on record,
saying "These contain vital information
showing the political link behind the murder."


Presidential styles of
Pratibha Patil
Her Excellency Pratibha Patil,
President of the Republic of India
Incumbent
News for India Australia uranium

Indian state
mulls ban on black magic
From..Mumbai
September 04, 2011 12:21PM
News for India Australia uranium


A testingtime for India - and Australia
Sydney Morning Herald - 1 day ago
India doesn't want or need
to rush in with orders for uranium.
... But post-colonial relations
between India and Australia
quickly became distant, ...

Sell India uranium,
minister says
www.theage.com.au/.../sell-india-uranium-minister-says-20110215-1av4i...
16 Feb 2011 –
''I accept [that our refusal to export uranium]
is a major concern
in an otherwise close strategic relationship
between Australia and India.'' ...
Australian Uranium to India:
Why Australia should sell it to India ...

yadusingh.wordpress.com/.../australian-uranium-to-indiawhy-austral... - Cached
20 Aug 2010 –
Previous Australian Gov led by PM John Howard
did many things to move Australia and India closer.
He declared that he would sell Uranium to ...

Australia's uranium policy
leaves India in the cold -
Radio Australia
www.radioaustralia.net.au/connectasia/stories/201003/s2854696.htm - Cached
24 Mar 2010 –
Australia has created more dismay
over it's attitude to India,
after
approving uranium sales to Russia
but...

India | uranium |
Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty |
Julie Bishop
www.smh.com.au/.../our-relationship-with-india-should-be-about-more-tha...
4 Feb 2010 –
It is not in Australia's national interest,
first because it sends a message to India that
Australia doesn't trust it
to be a recipient of our uranium, ...

Uranium backflip
The Australian
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/uranium.../story-e6frg72o-111111533363...
17 Jan 2008 –
Not selling to India is purely dogmatic. ...

Why Australia should
sell uranium to India -
On Line Opinion - 23/8 ...
www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=6274 - Cached
23 Aug 2007 –
Australian refusal to supply uranium to India
would be a short-sighted move
to preserve a failed 60's nuclear order
and an affront to India.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Indian state
mulls ban on black magic
September 04, 2011 12:21PM

[true lilly]

Pressure over ghost boats

Border patrol failed to release
details of a distress call from a boat
carrying 105 asylum seekers,
who are presumed to have drowned.

Pressure mounts over ghost boats
Natalie O'Brien
September 11, 2011

Struggling ... people cling to the wreckage of their boat
after it smashed against the Christmas Island coast.

A DISTRESS call giving out the co-ordinates of a
stricken boat carrying 105 Hazaras seeking asylum, who are now presumed
to have drowned, was received by Australian Customs and Border
Protection officials but the agency has never publicly revealed the
details.

Advice that the vessel was in distress and its position
in seas between Indonesia and Australia on October 3, 2009, was passed
by the agency to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which called
in the Indonesian search and rescue agency to take over the search.

But the boat has never been found and those on board have
not been heard from since, despite the Home Affairs Minister, Brendan
O'Connor, having later said that ''subsequent credible information''
showed the boat's difficulties had been resolved.



Customs has never revealed whether the distress call came
from the stricken vessel or from another source. Shortly after the boat
disappeared, frantic Afghan community members in Australia made
inquiries with the Department of Immigration and Customs and Border
Protection, but were told nothing about the fate of the boat.

Questions in Parliament in May, which have only just been
answered, reveal it was not until a story about the missing boat was
published three months later, on January 18, 2010, that Customs and
Border Protection ''reviewed its information holdings'' and found the
data.

Within two days of the story appearing, Mr O'Connor had
been briefed. But still, the families were told nothing. The opposition
spokesman for justice, customs and border protection, Michael Keenan,
said ''these are grave allegations about a minister misleading about
what the government knew and when they knew it. A possible tragedy of
this magnitude demands the fullest possible account of events.

''I urge Minister O'Connor to use the Parliament this
week to provide that account and to clarify the discrepancies in the
comments the government have already made on this matter. If he doesn't
take up that opportunity then we will look at ways that the Parliament
can make the government account for everything it knows."

The boat is one of eight believed to have sunk between
Indonesia, Malaysia and Australia in the past 2½ years. The most recent
vanished on November 14 last year with 97 on board after leaving a port
near Jakarta. It is believed many more have gone missing and one may
have disappeared just before the SIEV 221 smashed into rocks on
Christmas Island last December, killing 50.

An Iranian woman who lost five relatives in the tragedy
will tell the West Australian Coroner's Court next week that when she
inquired about the approaching boat Christmas Island detention centre
staff asked which boat she was talking about - the one the Navy had
detected or another that had gone missing.

Information about the 105 missing Afghan Hazaras, a
Persian-speaking ethnic group who live mainly in the central region of
Afghanistan, only came to light after the opposition asked in Parliament
what the government knew about each of the missing eight boats.

The families of the missing Hazaras have long questioned
how the boat could have vanished without trace, with two governments
aware of its existence. They had no idea the government had such
specific information about its distress.

Afghan community spokesman Hassan Ghulam, has called on
the government to release details of the distress call, who made it and
any other information available.

Mr Ghulam said relatives last received calls from those
aboard the boat saying that they were in international waters between
Java and Australia.

''The last call we know about was one of the passengers
saying we can see the Australian forces coming towards us. We are going
to throw our mobiles overboard,'' he said.

Mr Ghulam said the government needed to answer many
questions, including whether it had any satellite or radar images of the
boat.

He also wanted to know whether the navy saw them, and if
so, why did they not rescue them. The families of the missing deserved
to know what happened, he said.

''We are not blaming the authorities. People know they
are risking their lives when they get on these boats,'' he said. ''If
they have drowned, then we can have a funeral and get on with things.''

Do you know more?n.obrien@fairfaxmedia.com.au

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/pressure-mounts-over-ghost-boats-20110910-1k30r.html#ixzz1Xa8ChSFi

Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution

Samantha Maiden
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet
has canvassed the option of
abandoning the Malaysian solution
and a return to onshore processing.

Wow...
what a difference some hours make...
TICK, TICK, TICK...

Labor won't sink Malaysian solution

September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.

52 comments on this story
Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard

Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
From:Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011 12:00AM

Labor leaders Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard and Greg Combet. The Daily Telegraph

JULIA Gillard's Cabinet is divided over refugees and has canvassed
the option of abandoning the Malaysian solution and a return to onshore
processing.

But the Prime Minister is expected to prevail at a special meeting
of Cabinet tomorrow and stare down rebels in the ALP and Greens leader
Bob Brown.

Caucus tensions are rising as former PM Kevin Rudd continues to build his profile.

Mr Rudd's supporters have warned Labor colleagues that voters will "wipe
us off the planet" unless there is a change in leadership before the
next election.

A small group of backers in the ALP caucus is
urging colleagues to consider a back-to-the-future leadership ticket
before the next election with Defence Minister Stephen Smith also being
touted.

"The only way we are going to come out of this is to get Kevin back," a Labor MP said.

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The new laws follow the High Court's ruling that the Malaysian solution people-swap was unlawful.

Desperate to secure the support of Tony Abbott
for the reforms in Parliament, the Prime Minister will outline
a deal that will allow the Coalition to pursue Nauru as a future option
and reactivate Labor's preferred regional solution, including Malaysia.

Two senior ministers have told the Sunday Herald Sun that
the High Court ruling prompted Cabinet discussions over
whether the opportunity had arisen to dump offshore processing.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen even outlined the option in Cabinet,
but then explained why it was not an acceptable or effective method of
protecting the nation's borders.

Nauru was dismissed as an option because people smugglers knew
most asylum seekers ended up in Australia anyway and it was no longer
a deterrent.

The Gillard Government released costings yesterday suggesting the
Coalition's plan to reopen Nauru would cost $1 billion over four years.

"We know Nauru is not effective," Mr Bowen said.

"It's also a very expensive option."

There is still no guarantee the Coalition will support the new laws, a
prospect Labor has warned could result in up to 7000 asylum seekers
a year trying toreach Australia.

Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said he was not going to be lectured
by the Gillard Government about cost blowouts.

"The Coalition is willing to work with the Government if they wish to make
changes to the Act to put the issue of offshore processing beyond legal
doubt," he said. "But we've made no secret of our position on Malaysia."

According to senior ministers, long-standing concerns were
expressed in Cabinet over offshore processing.

The ALP platform clearly says
refugees should have their claims processed in Australia.

Sources said the discussions were respectful and part of a wide-ranging
conversation of all options, rather than a direct challenge to the PM's
authority.

Left faction convener Doug Cameron, who once complained
the ALP caucus had become political zombies too scared to speak their
minds, said the Malaysian solution was no solution at all.

"We should stick to the party platform," he said.

"That's onshore processing. It's the humane thing to do."

Northern Territory Senator Trish Crossin said:
"I don't think we should compromise on human rights as a first resort."

WA Labor MP Melissa Parke said she would argue strongly
against offshore processing.

ALP sources also suggested some Labor MPs may abstain from any vote.

They would face expulsion from the party
if they crossed the floor to vote with the Greens.
maidens@newsltd.com.au

[MoMo]

Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland









This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche?

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia.



http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........



Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.




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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?



Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)

[Billy Ruben]

http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/why-no-reviews-of-david-icke-preaching-in-melbourne-oct-2011-t2123-30.html

Seems 'some' need a little more context to understand
the great hole 'they' have dug 'themselves' into...with a lot
of 'help' from 'their' 'friends'.
Re: IT BEGINS....
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1612p15-it-begins#26452
Post true lilly Today at 12:17 am

ROFLMAO

And the best part about that thread,is your "second death" that you threaten others with and boast about,isn't Judaic Old Testament,the thieves that they were,but based on The Mystery Schools of Egypt.

So you subscribe,to the very thing you hate

it's all...From Out Of Egypt....LULZ

Welcome to the family Suzy Ryan,take good care of you now.

You spam,so shall I...

And, "you" are NOTHING.

Sure about that?!?!?!?!

Do the right thing and seek not recognition for those deeds,it will be noted as a spiritual aspect for after death,then,maybe a fruiter like you can keep something of themselves as the ego layer is stripped away and fed to MAAT the reptilian,leaving you as a clear virgin shell of consciousness and soul.Have a nice day...

The lies,slander,conspiracies,the games,the cruelty you have displayed to people and animals...you think there's something worth of you sparing...I already know you're the walking dead,like 90% of the human trash that filth this planet.I just vainly try and warn those,what the real second death is....The joke's on you,Suzy Ryan,Gods Anointed Spammer...



Ammut (aka Ammit, Ammet, Amemet)

She waited in the throne room often hidden as the judges of the Egyptian dead weighed the hearts of the deceased. Evil folk's hearts would become her next snack. Their souls were the main course. This was a second death, as being barred from the afterlife the soul was doomed to wander forever over the earth. Ammut is part lioness, hippo, and crocodile. She is also called the Bone Eater and Devourer of Millions. She is a most holy being as she alone could thusly bar the evil from entering the afterlife.

Ahhh,excellent insights there Mr Ruben,if I say so myself,would'nt you agree True Lilly,you do,but you just don't realise it...

And there's 'Billy Ruben' with 'his'
months of death threats that specify such methods,
and associating himself with bad cops, health unionists,
biker groups, and really bad dudes...which you would right off,
as an attention seeking nutter...but for the at least
3 different phones 'he' uses, and, the others who know of,
and approve of 'his' death threats, and the very specific
associations 'he' brags of, that make 'him' believe
'he's' 'untouchable' enough to keep getting away with it.

...and then of course, there are
the 2 Car Bombs I've already survived...
and the other attacks by really bad dudes, etc...

and 'Jason/Billy Ruben's' dangerously erratic and
volatile behaviour that makes 'him' a liability to
'friends', 'associates' and anyone 'he' 'perceives'
as a 'foe'.

We've all been through this.
Two months ago,when I got sick of True Lillys',baseless,groundless,slander and lies,against everyone whom she finds dis-pleasure with,ie,anybody who does'nt unquestioning believe,who littany of lies.
Frustrated to the point of doing something stupid,I decided to take my chances with Ballarat Police,close to where Suzy lives,she being the "BUM" part of town,Wendouree West,known for its bakeries and cock gobbling glory holes of Hollioke Park.
...I have the phone bill here to prove I rang on a Saturday.
Anyway,not expecting to get anywhere,especially,if I gave away my relationship with NSW Police,to be rather strained at best.
I was surprised to have my queries answered by a very professional and seasoned officer,who knew the law and history of Victoria and Ballarat.
...After describing my complaint,being accused as a babyfucker and goat abuser and so has many others by this nutter.I mentioned Suzy's ex-husband,Bill Ryan,a serving member?,remember,this is Suzy data,it could be made up at the bottom of a Gin bottle.

BAck in a minute...
The officer then took an interest and began looking for this Bill Ryan.I said to the officer,she'd be easy to remember,her car was blown up by bombing in her driveway and herself has been beaten up twice and put in a hospital.I could hear the keyboard,thumping away in the background,he's researching the data as I speak.He had a chuckle and said,there has'nt been a car-bombing in the state of Victoria for 30 years and that was the Russell St bombing.
...The officer,whose name I'll keep secret until Suzy Ryan,True Lilly/Vera Susa wants to reveal more or challenge this,said she can't be charged the way the laws stand now,but that may differ in the near future.

That sad little tale,that Suzy Ryan/True Lilly made up,lied about,she has been milking the public and friends for years,whether it's money,computers or a lift down the street,True Lilly has been profiting off her lies for many years now,off the good will of her readers.
She continues with her lies,cause they serve her well.I exposed her for this and hopefully,slowly,others catch on.She even plays this on her own family,and she abandoned them,in favour of delivering Gods Saving Word,her schizoid spam,even over the love of her children.Still think she's not a threat,guess again,she's a dangerous,manipulative,game-playing,conspiring schizoid,who fooled many of you with her old lady act.
She isn't nice,frail or alone.She's very well connected.She's a liar,slanderer,extortionist,is this the quality of character,that one should have to advocate God for you?
Nutter extraordinaire...But wait,there's more,WOOF,WOOF...

Now see her above post,it still contains the lies that she's trying to utilize to build another fantasy,completely crackers,but then again,it's the only game she has in town,as the management said,it's what she does,well,I don't have to tolerate it,her or her lying crap.

...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...

Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.

How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER

I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection

...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...

sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... ...
... or you could simply 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...

Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.

DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...

This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?

From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben


your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.

Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...

the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:

Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...

yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

[true lilly]

These...ah, bugger it, figure it out for yourselves.
I did, and I'm no insider, I have no connections,
only God's Word and a hunger and thirst for
True Justice.



STAR IN THE EAST

Vladimir Ashkenazy
and the Sydney Symphony Orchestra
wow them in Seoul.



IN GOD HE TRUSTS

Denver quarterback Tim Tebow
is set to become the most controversial
sportsman in the US.



GLACIAL CHILL

Computer modelling
does not reflect
the complexities of ice sheets.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/

Yep, "tintin" "Them", Icke,
ALL CONNECTED,
LIKE "Billy Ruben's" DESPERATE
27 SPAMMED THREADS of many MORE
SPAMMED POSTS within minutes,
trying to bury what's...well, too late....

Seems 'some' need a little more context to understand
the great hole 'they' have dug 'themselves' into...with a lot
of 'help' from 'their' 'friends'.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/im-a-victim-of-the-age-not-alp-claire-watson/story-fn7x8me2-1226224659628

Grollo's hacking concerns

James Campbell
DANIEL Grollo has questioned the actions of The Age
in searching his family's details
on a confidential Labor Party database.

Student jailed over sex stabbing frenzy

1:31PM Norrie Ross
A STUDENT inflicted 123 stab wounds
on a man he met on a gay dating site
after asking him "did you ever think of dying?", judge says.

Social media led to man's death - judge

Mark Dunn
A KILLER has been sentenced to 21 years jail
for murdering his uncle
after he posted his intentions to kill
online and via text messages.

The Age wins injunction against probe

10:51AM Padraic Murphy
UPDATE 8.30pm:
THE Age has obtained an injunction to stop police officers
seizing equipment, believed to include computers.

• Tough day at The Age
  
• April: ALP orders hacking probe
  
• November: Victoria Police probe hacking claims
  
• Guardian accused: Hack claim a beat-up
  

Evil cyber predator to learn fate

5:30PM Anthony Dowsley
ONE of Australia's worst cyber criminals
will be sentenced tomorrow for raping,
stalking and grooming vulnerable girls.


Time Magazine has named "The Protester"


‘MUST SPEAK ENGLISH’ LAW IS NOT RACIST

In a High Court review Mr Justice Beatson dismissed the case

Saturday December 17,2011
By Anil Dawar

A LAW forcing immigrant spouses to speak English before entering Britain
was ruled legitimate yesterday.

Three claimants tried to get the rule overturned, arguing it
interfered with their right to a married life and was racist and discriminatory.

But in a High Court review Mr Justice Beatson dismissed the case, saying
the rule is rational and that even if it does affect married couple’s
lives, it does not override Britain’s right to protect its interests.

Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch UK said:
“Perhaps we are seeing the dawn of common sense in these immigration cases.”

And Ukip MEP Gerard Batten called the ruling a rare “victory for common sense”.

One of the claimants was British-born Rashida Chapti, 54, whose Indian
husband of 37 years and father of her six children cannot join her in
Leicester because he cannot speak English. She said she plans to appeal.

The other claimants are a couple from Pakistan and another from the Yemen.

Perhaps we are seeing the dawn of common sense in these immigration cases.

Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch UK

The Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants said:
“In countries experiencing conflict, poverty, natural disasters,
and political instability, it can be difficult to acquire linguistic skills
prior to arrival in the UK.”

The judicial review was conducted in Birmingham.


Dutch Abuse Thousands Of Children
Institutional Dutch abuse 'affected thousands'

The report also estimates that one in 10 Dutch children have suffered some form of abuse, rising to one in five among those who had attended an institution - regardless of whether it was Catholic.

I think someone should
investigate the Dutch first of all. 1 in 5 wtf?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=194031

...and when "they" say 'Catholic' "they" KNOW the world 'thinks' Christian,
whereas I've STRESSED again and again, that there ARE GOOD and bad
IN ALL, including, THANK GOD, MANY GOOD, AND REPENTANT among 'the bad',
as PROVEN by how many of the 'well hidden' EVIL, ARE BEING REVEALED.

112 arrested in online child porn bust
by:From correspondents in The Hague
From:AFP
December 16, 2011
10:38PM

POLICE in 22 European countries have arrested 112 suspects for
allegedly sharing online videos of children being sexually abused and
raped, policing agency Europol says.

"So far in 22 countries we have identified 269 suspects with 112
arrests", Europol's director Rob Wainwright said at a press conference
at Europol's headquarters in The Hague today.

"The operation targeted those sharing
the most extreme forms of video material,
which included
babies and toddlers
being sexually abused and raped," he said.

"A lot of the material seized during the house searches is awaiting
forensic examination in order to support follow-up investigations and
possible prosecution of offenders," he said.

In March, police in several countries arrested scores of alleged
members of an online paedophile ring and rescued 230 children
in what Europol called at the time "the biggest case of its kind"
in a network that at one point had almost
70,000 members worldwide.
David Icke's Official Forums Statistics
Threads: 176,747, Posts: 3,363,214,
Members: 64,804

...yeah, I'm not 'playing' anymore...unlike "Billy Ruben" STILL PLAYING IN FILTH,
STILL TEXTING ME to "notice HIM/THEM", long ago tagged, and let loose to lead
JUSTICE to "THEIR" lairs...

...I played The Song of Redemption long enough...
...time to dance to the demise of the irredeemable...

oh dear, now they have removed "Join DATES",
leaving ONLY 'A' Month...all the easier to RE-write
"history"...

...and yet STILL NO REVIEWS of D.ICKe in MELBOURNE,
in 2011...
...bits posted, AFTER end of Oct. 2011
(when D.ICKe wa supposed to have been and GONE)
OF D.ICKe'S 2009 "show"...lots BEFORE Oct. 2011,
SPRUIKING D.ICKe'S 2011 "shows"...

atlantis7
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=189613
07-11-2011, 08:02 PM

Icke in NZ :-)

---

It was grate event in Auckland! Thank you David - just about couldnt
believe how much energy you have! and the best of it all there were
people from young to old from all background - quite a few scientists :-)

...so how do 'they' KNOW THE BACKGROUND of the audience...
...and WHAT RIGHT do 'they' have, to KNOW and BOAST?
Was giving away personal details and permission to ABuse it,
part of/THE PURPOSE of GATHERING FOLLOWERS?

STILL NOTHING, and as expected, treated as a NON-Issue at HPANWO,
Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
(but of course, "they" do find it important to attack me for asking )
like everywhere else, that is full of those who, while claiming to be,
"Anti-Icke" are heavily invested in selling the New Age Religious Garbage,
that David Icke spruiks.

What IS CLEAR to anyone who reads with basic comprehension, is:

"Sheeba" is a "Saffie cross", USED as a "poster child" FOR THE RSPCA
to GET OTHER PEOPLES MONEY, that PAID FOR her care,
BEFORE she was re-homed, in good health.

"POPPY" is my DEERHOUND, who I BOUGHT "IN THAT CONDITION"
and FUNDED HER RECOVERY, and DO ALL THE WORK MYSELF.
Others think POPPY IS IN "GREAT CONDITION" now.
I know she still has far to go, before she's all she could be.

And, "you" are NOTHING.

...and if people still wonder why the On Line "community",
PARTICULARLY those who peddle
Ickest Type/New Age/OLD LIE RELIGIONS,
THE MOST CRUEL and EVIL of people who FORCE Feed the wold
BITTER WORMWOOD, work so hard at "demonising" those of us
who THANK GOD for surviving "them",
BY CARING FOR THE SMALL, WEAK, VOICELESS and POWERLESS,
AND WITNESSING,
THE REAL LIFE SAVING GRACE of GOD, that feeds The Spirit with
The SWEET JOYS of LIFE...

Nanny state rules drive us mad

Alex White
ANIMAL owners, charities
and even the Scouts
have become the target
of wacky council bylaws
and ratepayers
have had enough.

To quote "tintin", it's all connected".
To quote "tintin", "it's all connected".

Wild dogs fear on missing jail chief

Jon Kaila
POLICE are unlikely to find missing
prison governor David Prideaux
because his remains may have
been disturbed by wild dogs.

Horsin' around on the Howqua

A BIT of horseplay in the beautiful
Howqua River seemed the perfect
way for Riddells Creek's Jessica
Mansas to spend a day in the High
Country.

Horsin' around on the Howqua
From:Sunday Herald Sun
December 18, 2011
12:00AM
Jessica Mansas from Riddells Creek rides Lancaster across the Howqua. Picture: Zoe Phillips Sunday Herald Sun

A BIT of horseplay in the beautiful Howqua River seemed the perfect
way for Riddells Creek's Jessica Mansas to spend a day in the High
Country.

Ms Mansas, 22, and her horse, Lancaster, frollicked in the icy waters of the Howqua
and she said: "It was the first time I've taken him up there and he took to it like
a real bush pony."

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?

How does continuing to attack me with lies, prove,
David Icke did at least one, of his two advertised shows,
in Melbourne, October 2011?

It doesn't.

To quote "tintin", "it's all connected".

Throne royally secure in Australia for now


Miles Godfrey
THE royal wedding and visits by the Queen and Prince William have set back the chances of Australia becoming a republic.

Aussie republic off the table, UK decides


1:52PM
AAP
THE royal wedding and recent visits have killed off any chance
Australia will become a republic in the near future, the UK government
finds.
31 comments on this story

• Royals: Kate's first Christmas at Sandringham

...so,

to more clearly ask, the questions being dodged,
I gather, in a few posts, the related quotes, in context,
yet somehow in "Billy Ruben's" world, that's "deceitful"?

Why can't "Billy Ruben", simply address
The Topic of The Thread:

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?

either way,
instead of attacking me for asking?

...and ?

BY BILLY RUBEN
David Icke Australia Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben
on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:52 pm

Anyway,Good on you Icke,you're so popular,
I* went to reserve my ticket,under the name "David Vincent",
opened the page and found the only way to see you is fly to New Zealand,
no,I won't be doing that,I'd like too,but it's out of my price range sir.

Just started my budget for Christmas
and to incorporate the cost of this show,$90 for ticket,
$200 for fuel,there and back,eats and drinks,$40 would've made
a nice day of it,leave a little stash in the car,smoko break
and get right into the show.

Have a station wagon,pillow,blanket and toilet
paper,soap and tooth brush,use a truckstop to have a wash,
would've been a good week-end.

Waited 10 years for him to come back
and alot has happened since his last show I seen.
Feel a bit let down,but underestimated his demand.

Oh well,whoever got tickets,lucky you,
I wanted rear row,not up front,
when you're watching over your back,
it's best to be close to it.
Good for fire escapes too.

Enjoy the show whoever got a ticket,
I'm out.

https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1280-david-icke-australian-tour-completely-sold-out?foe

[Billy Ruben]

You want a bloody fuckin’ spam war,I’ll give you a spam war,Biatch,laughing at you.

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Views: 431

"tintin": an insight. Views: 2837

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA Views: 14,705

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election Views: 3338

"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES. Views: 518

TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM Views: 1947

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES Views: 745

WHO'S "WE", PALEFACE?
CORI HAS ORDERED DEATH TO EVERYONE Views: 825

HEY CORI YOU BIATCH Views: 5102



Take Heed... Views: 2334



22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Views: 294

Why true lilly's thread of near 9000 VIEWS was LOCKED Views:478

Lily Ponds and Marshland Views: 2356

Nurses gagged, afraid of management Views: 919

Apocalypse=REVELATION, NOT 'the end of the world'...Views: 1073

And the purpose of this spam,what to highlight your obsessive compulsiveness to bump your own threads,WOW!!!!,Suzy Ryan,you're just amazing.

So,how come the last two months of spammed links,that say absolutely nothing,without any replies from others,have a readership,less than ten views,all of which are yours?
Hmmmmmmmm,you see,regardless that you despise me,you rely on folks like me to help your readership.That's why I was ignoring you tonight,which drove you crazy,then you lied and here's the result of your actions.



You make me hard...



Quick,look over your shoulder,it's the David Vincent monster,Rawrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

Still not a shred of evidence,
but another string of very badly timed lies...
...to what, 'give cred.' to "his" 'word'???

So,what was it like getting banned at HPANWO.I was besides myself laughing,knowing you'll never be able to leave here and spread your wings.And to see Handbag get riled up about you,when only a month before you joined he said you were more than welcome at HPANWO...But I knew better.

Just you pride yourself on the internet,Mmmmm,your god doesn't like pride.You should learn to be a good God Spammer,not an evil one.
It's a novelty having you at Sodlike,but under my rule,you'll do as exactly as you're told.And I LOVE the thought of that...I could really FAP to it.

Hmmm,Novelty,watcha ya gonna do when the novelty is gone....Ian Curtis again.

I must say though Suzy Ryan,if it wasn't for you,I wouldn't know how to use half the functions here,or learn the new art of SPAM.You never know,this lunatic fringe could be marketed for alot of money and find a nice niche for mental patients to have fun with,we'll see,when I take over this place and make it a true menagerie for the twisted,just like you.

blowjob time,back in 40....

Still nothing.

well,I'm a bit of a stayer....and it's been a long 48 hours since my last one.Oh,you were saying,oh,that's right.

Now you raised a lie I must confront.
David Icke duped me into being a spruiker...For him???
Are you fucking mad as well as a liar?
Icke couldn't stand a thing I write these days.Now why would the man want a drug addled basket case spruiking for him?
Does it look good for Icke to have a heavy percentage of his supporters,as well as his enemies all to be basket cases of some sort.Most I talked to at DIF were ADHD or Hyperactive,Bi-Polar or Manic Depressive,or just plain schizo like you.
I don't spruik for Icke and did that thread by influence from another,as well as to shit you and Sod off,like you do to me...so go fuck yourself Suzy spastic schizoid Ryan.

I don't care,nor give a fuck.Now does that answer your question you doggie girl????

after waiting more than an hour for me to "pop my lolly",she logs off.Hehehehehe,must've burnt her to find I really started the thread just to shit her off and she was hoping to flip it somehow,thinking she can offend me with insulting Icke.

Icke lives in Blighty,or the UK for others.If he can't get over being laughed at by the Wogan show,or the pisstakes down at the pub,then fucking move.He's pommy English,he should be used to back-stabbing,whiney cockney tongues,that's their culture,whinge and whine about everyone and everything.That's why Aussies call them "Whinging Pommes".He's a big boy and doesn't need me to hold his hand or spruik for him,That's what the moderators are for.We have a differing opinion there,but that's the way Sean runs the game and I never agreed with his ways.It's about psychology,not product placement and if they can't accept that,to bad.What forums do I write for,all of them except for David Icke Forums,or DIF as it's known here.

Happy now?
Fucking lying toad of a woman you are Suzy....No-one owns Billy Ruben/Thelyran or David Vincent,get that through your deluded head...one day Suzy,we'll meet and I will slap your face open handedly,Laugh all you like,have your two sons there too...get it.

I suppose that blows your rumours,lies and theories out of the water you discuss behind the scenes there Suzy old Girl.

I always know,it's just when I want to pull the plug on your lunacy and show you up to the others you lie too.Not everyone is connected and part of your secret,sick,sad world.

If you're so brave and honest,go on,post a modern photo of yourself with a clear picture of your eyes...and yes,you are'nt no show pony,probably blown a few,but you never were,what you call desireable.It's not for that reason.So in advance,don't flatter yourself,like you always do,champion breeder.

*Hint*

I mention the name Suzy Ryan...the laughter on the other end of the line,you're an open joke and an open sewer Suzy Ryan.So don't think I'm not to well informed.

[true lilly]

I tried to post this to make my ICKEST=TEAM TINTIN KILLER Point - A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS...THE ICKEST 'lions' PLAN TO DEVOUR AUSTRALIANS... SO 'they' ARE SLAVING TO CONvince THE WORLD of THE FILTHY LIE that, WE OF O'Zion "AREN'T HUMAN"...!!! http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=246

IT BEGINS....

CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY?
WE WANT YOU.
Can't fight for your own country? We want you

THE Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from other western countries. Read more

The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain
to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.

A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that
as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.

The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists,
such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are offering
fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.

I
was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour
warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health
act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5
days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me
away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the
nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt
with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't
warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and
maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe
laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker
in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting
needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This
part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and
snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my
job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know
you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent
your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy
the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I
will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of
course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I
love you.

Yes !!!!!!!!! Yes
!!!!!!!!! Yes !!!!!!!!! Make MRS TISWAS PALMER a ModerAtor OF Sodlike
Productions MR SODLIKE!!!!!!! yOU NEED A STRONG WILLED PERSON HERE aND
MRS TISWAS PALMER IS hard wHen it come to the strap adiCktome nights
WITH BARRY.

NO.
So I expect it.

Well 'you' can only spam over so much Real World News
that 'you' 'all' abuse me for asking folk to THINK about.

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws

by:Jessica Marszalek
From:Herald Sun
December 30, 2011
12:00AM
28 comments

Julia Gillard and her partner Tim Mathieson during the 2010 federal poll. Herald Sun

AS many as 16,000 Australians got away with voting more than once in the 2010 razor's edge federal poll.

Dozens may have voted three times or more, but only three copped a slap on the wrist.

The Australian Electoral Commission has admitted to a Senate committee its
own records make it difficult to tell who is flouting electoral laws.

And it has been revealed little can be done if voters deny it.

Of the 16,189 people the AEC suspected of multiple votes, 5211 denied it
and 80 per cent of the 1458 who confessed were new voters or did not
understand how to vote.

It was decided 7925 were errors, many caused when
voters with similar names were recorded under the same name by accident.

Electoral Commissioner Ed Killesteyn told the committee the offence was
hard to prove as there was no real evidence if a person denied the offence.

Victorian Liberal senator Scott Ryan said the lack of prosecution
sent a confusing message to the country.

There have been calls for the introduction of photo ID,
with some seats won or lost on just a few votes.

28 comments on this story

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben

TV ban on asylum seekers
by:The Australian
From:The Australian
December 28, 2011
12:12AM

TV stations may be banned from showing images of asylum seekers*
arriving in Australia by boat, The Australian reported today.

New rules handed down by the Australian Communications and Media
Authority restrict what can be broadcast, after lobbying from the
Immigration Department.

Under the changes, a person's *privacy would be protected
even if they were filmed in a public place.

The rules would mean that broadcasting images of *asylum seekers arriving
in Australian waters by boat might be stopped, the newspaper said.

PEOPLE SMUGGLERS PREY ON NEW ARRIVALS
People smugglers prey on new arrivals

Richard Noone, Jessica Marszalek

PEOPLE smugglers are sending touts to Indonesian airports in an effort
to sign up arrivals willing to jump on a boat to Australia.
Editorial: Boats continue to set sail

Last Updated: December 28, 2011
TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AHEAD
Tough economic times ahead

Stephen McMahon
THE tidal wave of bad news
that has engulfed the global economy
in the past six months is
expected to worsen in early 2012.

BRITAIN AT RISK OF TUMBLING
Britain at risk of tumbling

Stephen McMahon
BRITAIN is in danger of becoming
the latest European casualty
with a warning it risks tumbling into
a "double dip" recession next year.

AUSSIE WAGES LURE RECORD NUMBER OF KIWIS
Aussie wages lure record number of Kiwis

NUMBER of Kiwis setting up home in Australia
hits an all-time high,
with nearly 1000 people a week crossing the ditch.

It Began,
LONG BEFORE May 2008...

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

It's About Time
Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1G-TsdNWGg&feature=related

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

Professor Bill Collins devises
'billion-year perspective'
to pinpoint minerals
From:AAP
December 27, 2011
12:24AMAN Australian scientist says he has found a way
to make it easier to locate valuable minerals.

Professor Bill Collins, of the University of Newcastle's School of Environmental and
Life Sciences, says he has devised a new "billion-year perspective" that examines
the way the Earth was constructed over the past 2000 million years.
The information can be used to try to pinpoint the location
of potential mineral deposits.

"We can use continental drift and other techniques
to track the continents back through time," Prof Collins said today.

"It is like a big jigsaw puzzle
with bits and pieces of continents
ripping off one landmass
and transferring to another."
Prof Collins believes the Pacific Rim
contains many copper and gold deposits.

Examining geological information contained in tiny grains of zircon,
which is common in the crust of the Earth, has also given him a new way
to find where the ancient "Pacific Rims" were.

"Many of the ancient margins are now within the continental interior.
This is where the copper and gold reserves will be hidden."
Prof Collins said the ability to predict prospective terrains,
both under the surface and in the highest geological layers,
will be the biggest benefit of his research.

Oh, we know why "you legion" regularly read my posts,
and made me a little cave to post them in.

However, the quality of the readership is not the issue,
but that for close to 7 years, they've continued to be read,
by both, non-replying, independently thinking readers, and,
the same Professional Trolls, who have attacked me with the
same bald faced lies, from the beginning.

And the only thing you all have in common, is interest in a
real world, world view, that other's aren't paying attention to.
Some, to do good with what that view reveals, others, to do ill.

So I don't post much of anything anymore, and stick mainly to
the front pages of the popular news when I do, and then, without
much commentary, if any at all.

And dang if the fools don't still find ways to hang themselves, by
fishing for 'what I mean (by what someone else wrote)',
and/or attacking me for what they
'think I mean (by what someone else wrote)'.
Even when I post news that they generally agree with,
they still manage to excuse attacking me anyway.

It's called, "Today's News and Current Affairs", and I post some
that cover topics worthy of full and free consideration, with links
to quoted sources, for readers to further explore the topics from.

Tuesday 27 December 2011

Curbs on Antarctic tourism

Plans to limit tourism in Antarctic
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/antarctica/5140141/Plans-to-limit-tourism-in-Antarctic.html
The number of tourists visiting Antarctica could be restricted
under British plans, amid fears that the increase in cruise ships in the
area threatens to cause irreparable damage to the continent's pristine
environment.

Some may recall I posted other old 'news' on this recently,
from an Australian perspective.

As I did years ago, when I posted about
"Patagonian Toothfish Pirates", and
The 'Whaling' Wars.

It is NOT about 'tourists' hurting the frozen south,
it is NOT about protecting fish and whales,
but about Shoring Up The Glorious South;
The Land Promised to Re-gathered Israel.

Japan eases self-imposed arms export ban
From:AFP
December 27, 2011 8:42PM

TOKYO has eased a decades-old self-imposed ban on arms exports,
paving the way for Japanese firms to participate in multinational
weapons projects.

In a move intended to bolster the domestic arms industry and
reduce national defence spending, officially pacifist Japan will for
the first time in decades routinely allow its companies to partner with
foreign firms to develop weapons.

"Under the new standards, Japan will be able to transport military equipment
for missions of peace-building and international co-operation," Foreign Minister
Koichiro Gemba told reporters today.

"This will mean that Japan can now address
international peace co-operation
and global challenges such as terrorism and piracy
more proactively and effectively."
Japan, whose industries took many years to recover from the devastation of
World War II, declared in 1967 that it would very tightly control its
foreign weapons sales.

Related Coverage

• Japan picks F-35 as new fighter - reports Herald Sun, 6 days ago
  
• The big bucks theory of uranium Adelaide Now, 19 Nov 2011
  
• ALP Left concedes defeat on uranium ban Herald Sun, 15 Nov 2011
  
• Labor's Left not swayed by PM's India move Herald Sun, 15 Nov 2011
  
• Japan to boost ties on arms, security Foundation, 30 Sep 2011
  

At the height of the Cold War, then prime minister Eisaku Sato said
Tokyo would not sell armaments to communist states, countries directly
engaged in international conflicts, or nations under UN arms embargoes.

The restrictions were further tightened in 1976 when Japan said all exports
would be subject to stringent rules that effectively barred all weapon sales.

A limited number of exceptions were subsequently made for technological
co-operation projects such as missile defence with the United States, Japan's
cornerstone security ally.

The new rules will allow Japan to develop and produce arms jointly with the US
and European countries and to export military equipment for peaceful and
humanitarian purposes such as UN peace-keeping operations.

Tokyo will also be allowed to provide defensive equipment, such as helmets and
bullet-proof vests, to the limited number of countries in which its Self-Defence Forces
are deployed.

Critics of the ban say it was a Cold War relic that has resulted in Japan's military
hardware capability becoming outdated,while increasingly assertive regional rival
China continues to spend heavily on defence technology.

But supporters say any move to expand Tokyo's military reach, however limited,
is likely to rankle in Beijing and Seoul, where Japan's wartime aggression remains
a sensitive subject.

Still nothing from these either:
Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
Hagbard Celine

Footie McGrew

Ciggy

Lemonpie
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 am
Posts: 324
...oh, lots of bitter ranting against those who don't buy 'their' poison,
but nothing to explain the mysteries of David Icke's Heavily Advertised as
"Sold Out" 2011 Melbourne Show.

Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to,
One VERY big 'hint'
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by true-lilly

Joined: 13-March 06

Craig Oxley/Bro. Jon Phelp's "The Unhived Mind"
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Board Closed
This board has been closed for Terms of Service violations.
The Terms of Service

15-5-2008
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=494
Jordan and RUDD

This RUDESS means KEVIN RUDD.
KEVIN RUDD is the Prime minister of AUSTRALIA.
Australia is the HOME of people.
The real HOME. The PROMISED land.

The road to OZ....

The Golden Road...
California or JORDAN is DREAMLAND. Not real. Will disappear...

Jordan Rudess, born 4 NOVEMBER
member of DREAM THEATRE.

From Jordan (California) to
the land of Kevin RUDD.
THE ROAD HOME.
AUSTRALIA

Yep, that's close to 7 years of the "Ciggy's & tintin's"
continuing to hang themselves with the lifelines I drop them.

[true lilly]

You do realize how MANY DANGEROUS roads, seas and borders
these 'asylum seekers' HAVE TO ESCAPE, OUT of AND INTO,
to 'escape' the HOMElands they are 'claiming' to need asylum from,
before they make it to their TARGET COUNTRY, AUSTRALIA,
O'Zion.

Australian 'Mr X' sought over asylum boat tragedy
by:AAP
From:AAP
December 30, 2011
9:29AM

Watch
Aust man sought over asylum boat tragedy

Australian man accused of involvement with organisers of the overloaded asylum boat that sank off Java.

Indonesian
police carry a young boy who survived the boat tragedy. The boat was
heavily overloaded with Afghan and Iranian asylum-seekers. Picture: AFP AdelaideNow

AN Australian has been accused of involvement with organisers of the
overloaded asylum seeker boat that sank this month killing as many as
200 people.

Indonesian police spokesman Saud Usman Nasution has told Fairfax
newspapers that investigators have given the name of the man to
Australian Federal Police after several survivors identified him.

"We have passed on the name of the Australian man - Mr X - to the AFP
to follow up," Inspector-General Nasution said.

But an AFP spokeswoman told Fairfax that
"the AFP has not received a referral from the Indonesian national police".

"The AFP has made no arrests in relation to this matter
and this is a matter for the Indonesian authorities," she said.

Told of the AFP comments, General Nasution insisted the name
had been passed on and the investigation was a joint effort by
both countries' law enforcement agencies.

Four Indonesian soldiers have been detained for their involvement
with two local owners of small boats used to ferry the asylum seekers to
their "mother ship" at sea, but there have been reports indicating more
security personnel and officials were involved.

General Nasution said multiple suspects had been identified in Indonesia and in
"countries of origin", understood to be Pakistan and Iran.

First a cup of tea,then I make
your life miserable old slag.I know you love it,you have nothing of
value to say.Hide away yesterday?Really think I'm joking about reporting
you Suzy Ryan...I did.

Is "tintin" still alive?
Well, it's been a while since I've read 'Aarnout van der Plooge/tintin's' 'voice'
in 'his' posts, and some really big things happened around those times he
'went away' and would come back with different 'voices'.

You know, the really big things that I posted on
and the rest of The CONspiracy Industry ignored,
as 'they' do when it shows 'them' for what 'they' are.

I tried to post this to make my ICKEST=TEAM TINTIN KILLER Point - A
PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS...THE ICKEST 'lions' PLAN TO DEVOUR
AUSTRALIANS... SO 'they' ARE SLAVING TO CONvince THE WORLD of THE FILTHY
LIE that, WE OF O'Zion "AREN'T HUMAN"...!!! http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=246

IT BEGINS....

CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY?
WE WANT YOU.
Can't fight for your own country? We want you

THE Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from other western countries. Read more

The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain
to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.

A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that
as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.

The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists,
such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are offering
fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.

I
was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour
warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health
act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5
days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me
away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the
nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt
with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't
warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and
maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe
laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker
in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting
needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This
part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and
snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my
job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know
you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent
your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy
the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I
will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of
course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I
love you.

Yes !!!!!!!!! Yes
!!!!!!!!! Yes !!!!!!!!! Make MRS TISWAS PALMER a ModerAtor OF Sodlike
Productions MR SODLIKE!!!!!!! yOU NEED A STRONG WILLED PERSON HERE aND
MRS TISWAS PALMER IS hard wHen it come to the strap adiCktome nights
WITH BARRY.

NO.
So I expect it.

Well 'you' can only spam over so much Real World News
that 'you' 'all' abuse me for asking folk to THINK about.

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws

by:Jessica Marszalek
From:Herald Sun
December 30, 2011
12:00AM
28 comments

Julia Gillard and her partner Tim Mathieson during the 2010 federal poll. Herald Sun

AS many as 16,000 Australians got away with voting more than once in the 2010 razor's edge federal poll.

Dozens may have voted three times or more, but only three copped a slap on the wrist.

The Australian Electoral Commission has admitted to a Senate committee its
own records make it difficult to tell who is flouting electoral laws.

And it has been revealed little can be done if voters deny it.

Of the 16,189 people the AEC suspected of multiple votes, 5211 denied it
and 80 per cent of the 1458 who confessed were new voters or did not
understand how to vote.

It was decided 7925 were errors, many caused when
voters with similar names were recorded under the same name by accident.

Electoral Commissioner Ed Killesteyn told the committee the offence was
hard to prove as there was no real evidence if a person denied the offence.

Victorian Liberal senator Scott Ryan said the lack of prosecution
sent a confusing message to the country.

There have been calls for the introduction of photo ID,
with some seats won or lost on just a few votes.

28 comments on this story

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben

TV ban on asylum seekers
by:The Australian
From:The Australian
December 28, 2011
12:12AM

TV stations may be banned from showing images of asylum seekers*
arriving in Australia by boat, The Australian reported today.

New rules handed down by the Australian Communications and Media
Authority restrict what can be broadcast, after lobbying from the
Immigration Department.

Under the changes, a person's *privacy would be protected
even if they were filmed in a public place.

The rules would mean that broadcasting images of *asylum seekers arriving
in Australian waters by boat might be stopped, the newspaper said.

PEOPLE SMUGGLERS PREY ON NEW ARRIVALS
People smugglers prey on new arrivals

Richard Noone, Jessica Marszalek

PEOPLE smugglers are sending touts to Indonesian airports in an effort
to sign up arrivals willing to jump on a boat to Australia.
Editorial: Boats continue to set sail

Last Updated: December 28, 2011
TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AHEAD
Tough economic times ahead

Stephen McMahon
THE tidal wave of bad news
that has engulfed the global economy
in the past six months is
expected to worsen in early 2012.

BRITAIN AT RISK OF TUMBLING
Britain at risk of tumbling

Stephen McMahon
BRITAIN is in danger of becoming
the latest European casualty
with a warning it risks tumbling into
a "double dip" recession next year.

AUSSIE WAGES LURE RECORD NUMBER OF KIWIS
Aussie wages lure record number of Kiwis

NUMBER of Kiwis setting up home in Australia
hits an all-time high,
with nearly 1000 people a week crossing the ditch.

It Began,
LONG BEFORE May 2008...

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

It's About Time
Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1G-TsdNWGg&feature=related

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

Professor Bill Collins devises
'billion-year perspective'
to pinpoint minerals
From:AAP
December 27, 2011
12:24AMAN Australian scientist says he has found a way
to make it easier to locate valuable minerals.

Professor Bill Collins, of the University of Newcastle's School of Environmental and
Life Sciences, says he has devised a new "billion-year perspective" that examines
the way the Earth was constructed over the past 2000 million years.
The information can be used to try to pinpoint the location
of potential mineral deposits.

"We can use continental drift and other techniques
to track the continents back through time," Prof Collins said today.

"It is like a big jigsaw puzzle
with bits and pieces of continents
ripping off one landmass
and transferring to another."
Prof Collins believes the Pacific Rim
contains many copper and gold deposits.

Examining geological information contained in tiny grains of zircon,
which is common in the crust of the Earth, has also given him a new way
to find where the ancient "Pacific Rims" were.

"Many of the ancient margins are now within the continental interior.
This is where the copper and gold reserves will be hidden."
Prof Collins said the ability to predict prospective terrains,
both under the surface and in the highest geological layers,
will be the biggest benefit of his research.

Oh, we know why "you legion" regularly read my posts,
and made me a little cave to post them in.

However, the quality of the readership is not the issue,
but that for close to 7 years, they've continued to be read,
by both, non-replying, independently thinking readers, and,
the same Professional Trolls, who have attacked me with the
same bald faced lies, from the beginning.

And the only thing you all have in common, is interest in a
real world, world view, that other's aren't paying attention to.
Some, to do good with what that view reveals, others, to do ill.

So I don't post much of anything anymore, and stick mainly to
the front pages of the popular news when I do, and then, without
much commentary, if any at all.

And dang if the fools don't still find ways to hang themselves, by
fishing for 'what I mean (by what someone else wrote)',
and/or attacking me for what they
'think I mean (by what someone else wrote)'.
Even when I post news that they generally agree with,
they still manage to excuse attacking me anyway.

It's called, "Today's News and Current Affairs", and I post some
that cover topics worthy of full and free consideration, with links
to quoted sources, for readers to further explore the topics from.

Tuesday 27 December 2011

Curbs on Antarctic tourism

Plans to limit tourism in Antarctic
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/antarctica/5140141/Plans-to-limit-tourism-in-Antarctic.html
The number of tourists visiting Antarctica could be restricted
under British plans, amid fears that the increase in cruise ships in the
area threatens to cause irreparable damage to the continent's pristine
environment.

Some may recall I posted other old 'news' on this recently,
from an Australian perspective.

As I did years ago, when I posted about
"Patagonian Toothfish Pirates", and
The 'Whaling' Wars.

It is NOT about 'tourists' hurting the frozen south,
it is NOT about protecting fish and whales,
but about Shoring Up The Glorious South;
The Land Promised to Re-gathered Israel.

Japan eases self-imposed arms export ban
From:AFP
December 27, 2011 8:42PM

TOKYO has eased a decades-old self-imposed ban on arms exports,
paving the way for Japanese firms to participate in multinational
weapons projects.

In a move intended to bolster the domestic arms industry and
reduce national defence spending, officially pacifist Japan will for
the first time in decades routinely allow its companies to partner with
foreign firms to develop weapons.

"Under the new standards, Japan will be able to transport military equipment
for missions of peace-building and international co-operation," Foreign Minister
Koichiro Gemba told reporters today.

"This will mean that Japan can now address
international peace co-operation
and global challenges such as terrorism and piracy
more proactively and effectively."
Japan, whose industries took many years to recover from the devastation of
World War II, declared in 1967 that it would very tightly control its
foreign weapons sales.

Related Coverage

• Japan picks F-35 as new fighter - reports Herald Sun, 6 days ago
  
• The big bucks theory of uranium Adelaide Now, 19 Nov 2011
  
• ALP Left concedes defeat on uranium ban Herald Sun, 15 Nov 2011
  
• Labor's Left not swayed by PM's India move Herald Sun, 15 Nov 2011
  
• Japan to boost ties on arms, security Foundation, 30 Sep 2011
  

At the height of the Cold War, then prime minister Eisaku Sato said
Tokyo would not sell armaments to communist states, countries directly
engaged in international conflicts, or nations under UN arms embargoes.

The restrictions were further tightened in 1976 when Japan said all exports
would be subject to stringent rules that effectively barred all weapon sales.

A limited number of exceptions were subsequently made for technological
co-operation projects such as missile defence with the United States, Japan's
cornerstone security ally.

The new rules will allow Japan to develop and produce arms jointly with the US
and European countries and to export military equipment for peaceful and
humanitarian purposes such as UN peace-keeping operations.

Tokyo will also be allowed to provide defensive equipment, such as helmets and
bullet-proof vests, to the limited number of countries in which its Self-Defence Forces
are deployed.

Critics of the ban say it was a Cold War relic that has resulted in Japan's military
hardware capability becoming outdated,while increasingly assertive regional rival
China continues to spend heavily on defence technology.

But supporters say any move to expand Tokyo's military reach, however limited,
is likely to rankle in Beijing and Seoul, where Japan's wartime aggression remains
a sensitive subject.

Still nothing from these either:
Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
Hagbard Celine

Footie McGrew

Ciggy

Lemonpie
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 am
Posts: 324
...oh, lots of bitter ranting against those who don't buy 'their' poison,
but nothing to explain the mysteries of David Icke's Heavily Advertised as
"Sold Out" 2011 Melbourne Show.

Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to,
One VERY big 'hint'
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by true-lilly

Joined: 13-March 06

Craig Oxley/Bro. Jon Phelp's "The Unhived Mind"
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Board Closed
This board has been closed for Terms of Service violations.
The Terms of Service

15-5-2008
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=494
Jordan and RUDD

This RUDESS means KEVIN RUDD.
KEVIN RUDD is the Prime minister of AUSTRALIA.
Australia is the HOME of people.
The real HOME. The PROMISED land.

The road to OZ....

The Golden Road...
California or JORDAN is DREAMLAND. Not real. Will disappear...

Jordan Rudess, born 4 NOVEMBER
member of DREAM THEATRE.

From Jordan (California) to
the land of Kevin RUDD.
THE ROAD HOME.
AUSTRALIA

Yep, that's close to 7 years of the "Ciggy's & tintin's"
continuing to hang themselves with the lifelines I drop them.

[Billy Ruben]

Hi shitbag scumbucket.Cause you were spiteful spamming unrelate crap this morning and my little modem packed in,I just had a friend/connection replace modem,line filter,all chords and Now I'm going to be a bastard and spam the fuck out of this place.Sod was warned and he can't do shit about it,so suck my dick you dog raping,child porn freak...and you admitted you have child porn and JD John Drake/Droike plays moral card one day and defends a known and self confessed pervert the next day.Enjoy the Federal Police babe,cause they're next babe...FUCK YOU BITCH !!!!!!

I was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5 days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I love you.

And when you decide to take a long stroll or go shopping,it's best to have every time-table for buses and trains,like I did.I escaped and went home for bongs,sex and real food.And a shower I did'nt need to wear footwear in.Seeing this horrible old 70 year old,squashing a shit down the drain hole of the shower.I was disgusted.Lock your shower door,or the fat brunette,who offered me free rent and a share in her house,came running in,sucking on my flaccid penis,the shampoo,blinding me at the very right second,almost,comical.I was scared of her.And always knock,before you enter any room,this horrible looking man,said I'm the Butterfly,just as hs started to ejaculate all over the back of the door from fast and furious wanking...be warned.It's gonna be fun.

Keep credit cards,ATM savings cards and all electronic ways of getting money,home,or hidden in your pants.They usually keep it in a safe and only allow you $15 a day back in 2002.Do not wear jewellery,rings,wedding or any sort.Keep valuables at home,or safety deposit box.

and keep your stupid fucking beliefs to yourself,OK...

There is a forum admin here,named Sod/Julian.He's over 35,looks like a demonic version of Sting,Pommy (English),loves a night on the booze and drugs,which on average,makes him a lazy bastard.Like most western men are.Spoilt fuckin' rotten I say.But he'll find his runners,when he's conscripted for Asian battlefields,soon enough.I mean,if the bastard could use an iron lung to assist breathing,he would.It means,he hardly ever moderates,bit picky on who he answers PM's,real bitch.

However,there is a very skilled,rather energetic,smart and sassy,unbiased world wide women here,named Tiswas.

She's spiritual,understanding,gives good debates and I believe,quite unbiased in all matters concerning Icke.Offers the olive branch to those who foolishly,troll and attempt to sway her to the dark side.

This rare lady of light,with all her wisdom and knowledge,would be a great assett to the forums administration and I believe she is the answer to cleaning up the spam wars we have here,for which I trully,hand on heart apologise for my own involvement.

I hope the current admin,the one who needs a iron lung to breathe,maybe consider this idea as one of the few rare instances that I could conceive,that has a small amount of merit.

If anyone feels the idea should be lobbied to our admin,please raise your concerns here.

Thankyou to the forum for your time and consideration,yours sincerely,Billy Ruben.

I am sure,in the name of freedom of speech,that Droike,Marpat and True Lilly,their futures would be safe,in the hands of Tiswas.

Not so with Mr Ruben,who would Nazi there arses and relegate them to a new sub-forum,called The Gas Chamber.

Be lucky,that true lights like Tiswas exist.







For I stand for Half-Caste pride,a Nazi and proud of it!!!!

[sharky]

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader.

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet.

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.

[sharky]

you like to spam other peoples Thread with off topic bullshit? Have a taste of your own medicine.............

.......

................... . . . . .
And as I've also always stated, I KNOW GOD
HAS ALWAYS had
HIS 'CALLED OUT' doing their parts, big and small (and often,
not being aware of it at the time), in FULFILLING HIS PROMISES.

Barnacle Bill wrote: It's definitely not you , you New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.........you're exactly like David Icke.a sufferer of the Nacissistic Personality Disorder.....you mislead the gullible......................................Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a "narcissist" or as someone with "narcissism." Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.................•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
•Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
•Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
•Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
•Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
•Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.............


http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm

ANTISEMITISM

But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES....................The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM, is that it causes the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE PERU...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...

{YHWHs Covenant with Abraham/Israel is eternal...........He forgives them for their human foibles.here lilly is saying that YHWH is a liar and promise breaker...she promotes Church Replacement Theology..aNew age Neo Pagan fantasy.........)

http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home&type=2
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12

The hideous falsehood known as [u]replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust........................................

The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build..........................Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?

lilly, you said it yourself....you are crazy, batshit crazy..... ......... you are a crazed New age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.......what you are doing is known as Eisegesis..the opposite of exegesis......

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eisegesis

Definition of EISEGESIS
: the interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas — compare exegesis

THIS: is what honest Scriptural researchers engage in:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exegesis

Definition of EXEGESIS
: exposition, explanation; especially : an explanation or critical interpretation of a text

Now please, KNOW THIS:

If anyone of Authority, had have told me,
"shut up about Australia", during any of
the decades I've been asking these questions
and seeking real answers, I WOULD HAVE. But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, Israel/Zion "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ/Australia for
THEMSELVES!

Actually, scripture itself rebukes your lies, False translations perpetuate false interpretations, and false interpretations lead to false churches.

And to call Israel/Zion a 'useless piece of desert illuminates your ignorance and deceit.....here are the actual facts:..

The 7 Wonders of the Jewish World

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=245708

1. Monotheism

There is an old ditty which goes, “How odd of God, to choose the Jews.” One of the many rejoinders is: “It’s not so odd; the Jews chose God.” Yet it is that very choosing of God which is odd and remarkable. As archeologist and Egyptologist Henri Frankfort wrote, “The dominant tenet of Hebrew thought is the absolute transcendence of God. God is not in nature. Neither earth nor sun nor heaven is divine; even the most potent natural phenomena are but reflections of God’s greatness... it needs an effort of the imagination to realize the shattering boldness of a contempt for imagery at the time, and in the particular historical setting, of the Hebrews.”

Aside from its role in shaping religion, monotheism also laid the foundation for the rise of science; as several historians of science have noted, the idea that disparate phenomena all follow fundamental “laws” flowed from monotheism. And the billions of adherents of Christianity and Islam are all adopting a monotheism initiated by the Jewish People.

2. The Land of Israel


The land of Israel, promised to Abraham, is small. It does not host the greatest waterfalls or the tallest mountains. But it is nevertheless remarkable within the natural world. Geographically, the land of Israel is at the junction of three continents: Europe, Asia and Africa. Within its tiny area, it houses an incredible diversity of landscapes: snowy slopes, tropical beaches, arid deserts and green forests. As a result of all this, the land of Israel is home to an astonishingly diverse range of flora and fauna. It is the southernmost range of many northern species, the westernmost range of eastern species, and the northernmost range of southern species. As the Midrash states, Israel is the center of the world.

3. Torah

Literally meaning “teaching,” the word Torah is often used in the narrow sense of referring to the Five Books of Moses. But in its broadest sense, it refers to the entire gamut of Jewish teachings. This marvelous body of literature chronicles a nation’s efforts over millennia to connect with the Divine, to improve the individual, to regulate society and to stretch the mind. Scripture, Talmud, midrash, philosophy, mysticism, law, ethics – it encompasses every intellectual taste and every aspect of our lives.

4. The calendar

The wonder of the Jewish calendar is not limited to the way in which it manages to synchronize three entirely unrelated natural phenomena: the rotation of the earth on its axis, the revolution of the moon around the earth, and the revolution of the earth around the sun.

The very contents of the Jewish calendar are so much richer than in the joke which describes it as consisting of two types of events: “They tried to kill us, we won, let’s eat,” and “They tried to kill us, we didn’t win, let’s not eat.”

We celebrate national salvation and religious freedom; we observe days of solemnity, repentance and introspection; and we mourn the loss of people and precious elements of our heritage. Most wonderful of all is the Sabbath, during which, miraculously, I am able to resist checking my e-mail for a full twenty-four hours.

5. Jewish survival

The Jewish People, never large in number, have been faced with hatred for over 3,000 years. We have been exiled from our home and forced into servitude and exile among hostile nations. We have suffered persecution in every one of the numerous countries in which we have lived. Nations faced with far fewer existential threats have disappeared, and yet we have survived.

Mark Twain famously asked, “The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then... passed away. The Greek and the Roman followed. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts... What is the secret of his immortality?”

And we made it back to our homeland after 2,000 years of exile, an event completely unparalleled in world history.

6.The State of Israel

Like every citizen of Israel, and especially like every oleh (immigrant), I could rant endlessly about the shortcomings of the State of Israel (though unlike the citizens of our neighboring countries, I could do so without fear of being thrown in prison). But this would be a smallminded perspective that does not take into account the incredible challenges that the state overcomes.

Despite having to absorb an enormous number of immigrants in a short span of time, and having to devote a ridiculously large amount of resources to national defense, Israel has managed to create a vibrant democracy, an oasis of prosperity, producing astonishing accomplishments in every field, all while successfully repelling repeated attempts at annihilation.

7.Global significance

Although numbering only 0.2% of the total world population today, and never having numbered much more than that, the Jewish People have always had an inexplicably large impact upon the world. The spread of monotheism is the most significant example, but we have also made disproportionate contributions in every sphere of knowledge and endeavor. Meanwhile, the United Nations is obsessed with Israel, condemning it more than every other country put together. If anything, we’re too significant for our own good.

Those are the Seven Wonders of the Jewish World as I see them, which I think are much more wonderful than the Seven Wonders of the ancient world. Colossus, schmolossus.

more proof lilly is lying.
Israeli Agriculture: Coping with Growth
By Jon Fedler
Editor of Agrictech Israel Magazine

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/agriculture/aggrowth.html

By the year 2020, Israel's population is expected to grow by 42 percent, to 8.5 million. This will cause huge increases in demand for agricultural produce and products; but urban use of land and water will also increase enormously.

In 2020 only half the amount of fresh water allocated to agriculture today (around 700 million cubic meters a year) will be available for this purpose and the amount of suitable land available for farming (360,000 hectares) will be 18 percent less than at present.

Part of the increased demand - notably for field crops (such as cereals, oilseeds and sugar) and for milk products, fish and beef - will have to be met by increased imports. Nevertheless a substantial part of that growing demand will have to come from increased domestic production. Sweeping changes will be required, such as a 33% increase in the labor force and a reduction in irrigated field crops, such as cotton, to make water available for growing fruit and vegetables for the local market.

The above is based on a study by the Ministry of Agriculture, which forecasts that despite its handicaps Israel will be able, by 2020, to increase production of agricultural goods by 48 percent over 1993 figures, averaging a growth of 1.5 percent per annum in real terms. This is certainly consistent with recent developments. Except for a brief period of uneven growth in the second half of the 1980s, agricultural output has grown consistently since 1948.

Despite the decline in its importance relative to other economic branches, agriculture has been growing in absolute terms and still plays an important part in Israel's economy, representing today some 2.0 percent of the Gross Domestic Product and about 3.5 percent of exports. Agricultural inputs produced in Israel are valued today at over $2 billion, of which 70% are exported.

Agriculture is of major national importance; in certain areas, such as the Arava and the Jordan Valley, it provides the sole means of livelihood for the population. In 1996 approximately 73,500 people were involved in farming, constituting about 3.0 percent of the country's workforce.

In monetary terms, Israel produces almost 70% of all its food requirements. It imports much of its grain, oilseeds, meat and fish, and its the sugar, coffee and cocoa. However, these imports are offset by exports of agricultural produce valued at around $800 million and $600 million worth of processed foods per annum. Today, just under a quarter of the income of Israel's farmers derives from the export of fresh produce, including items such as flowers, avocados, out-of-season vegetables and certain exotic fruits grown for export. In 1996 some 140,000 tons of fruit and vegetables - 14 percent of the entire crop - were sold to factories for processing and export.

This is a far cry from the situation a century ago. When Jews began resettling their historic homeland in the late 19th century, their first efforts were directed towards reclaiming the mostly semi-arid land, much of which was rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. Rocky fields were cleared and terraces built in the hilly regions; swampland was drained, and systematic reforestation begun; soil erosion was counteracted, and salty land washed to reduce soil salinity.

Since Israel attained its independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 165,000 ha. to some 435,000 ha. and the number of agricultural communities has grown from 400 to 900 (including 136 Arab villages). During the same period, agricultural production has expanded 16-fold, more than three times the rate of the population growth.

Israel's varied climatic, topographical and soil conditions (from sub-tropical to arid, from 400 meters below sea level to 1000 meters above and from sand dunes to heavy alluvial soils) made it possible to grow a wide range of agricultural produce. The success of the country's agriculture stems from the determination and ingenuity of farmers and scientists who have dedicated themselves to developing a flourishing agriculture in a country which is more than half desert, thus demonstrating that the real value of land is a function of how it is used................Growing Crops in the Desert
Since 1948, the sparsely populated desert area between Be'er Sheva and Eilat has played an important role in agricultural production. More than 40 percent of the country's vegetables and field crops are grown in the Arava and Negev and 90 percent of the melons exported come from the Arava. ..........

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=191709

The Eternal Jew

One of the biggest cover-ups/False Flags in History is the massive misrepresentations/lies of and about the Jews. Their history, their beliefs, their culture etc.........

Over 300 years ago, King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great Christian philosopher, to give him proof of God. Pascal answered, “Why the Jews, your Majesty, the Jews!”
http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...ewish-history/


Quote:
That the Jewish nation—such a tiny group of people—survived two thousand years of exile and persecution was nothing short of a supernatural phenomenon. Pascal wasn’t the only one who was so amazed by the survival of the Jewish people. Other thinkers, philosophers and historians have noticed something unusual about the Jews.

Mark Twain, an agnostic and self-acknowledged skeptic, penned this in 1899 in Harper’s Magazine:

“The Egyptian, Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away. The Greek and Roman followed, made a vast noise and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up, and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out and they sit in twilight now or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal, but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”....................4) Anti-Semitism
(TOP)

The term “anti-Semitism” itself is very curious. Why not refer to the hatred and persecution of Jews by more generic terms like religious bigotry, xenophobia, or racism? The Jews are the only group in the world with a unique term for their persecution. Why? The world seems to realize that anti-Semitism isn’t simply one more unfortunate example of hatred in the world, but is instead a phenomenon specific to the Jews.

There are four different aspects to anti-Semitism which characterize it as being a hatred like no other:

1) Universality
2) Intensity
3) Longevity
4) Irrationality

Universality:
The universal scope of anti-Semitism can be seen in the fact that Jews have been expelled from virtually every country in which they have resided. Jews were expelled from England in 1290, France in 1306 and 1394, Hungary in 1349 and 1360, Austria in 1421, from various places in Germany throughout the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, from Lithuania in 1445 and 1495, Spain in 1492, Portugal in 1497, and from Bohemia and Moravia in 1744-45. Between the 15th and 18th centuries, Jews were not permitted to enter Russia, and when they were finally admitted, they were restricted to one area, the Pale of Settlement.

Parallel to these atrocities in Europe were various levels of anti-Semitism at the hands of the Arabs. From Islam’s inception in the 7th century, the Jews living in Arab countries were constantly made to feel like second-class citizens. Violent outbreaks sporadically occurred throughout the following 1300 years and reached a climax during the years 1948 and 1967. During that period, almost all of the Jews living in Aden, Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Yemen, over 500,000 in all, were forced to flee, fearing for their lives, in the wake of pogroms, assaults and massacres.

Even as far away as Ethiopia, where a small community of Jews were cut off from the rest of the Jewish people for over 2000 years, we find evidence of persecution from the neighboring peoples. There has even been evidence of anti-Semitism in Japan—a country where virtually no Jews ever lived!
Jewish Persecution Timeline


Intensity:
The ultimate example is the Holocaust (acknowledged throughout the world as the ultimate manifestation of evil in all of history)—the only time an entire people (i.e., men, women and children) had a campaign of complete annihilation waged against them.


Longevity:
Most of the world’s great powers, even those with only a small percentage of Jews among them, regarded the Jews as a central enemy. This phenomenon began as early as the Greek persecutions of Jews during the Second Temple period. It continued with the late Roman Empire, the Arabs, and the Christian world for over 15 centuries (most notably with the frequent occurrence of blood libels all throughout the Middle Ages) and more recently with the Nazis and the Soviet Union, as well as the Arabs today.

FULL LIST OF EMPIRES AGAINST THE JEWS:
Egyptian Empire,
Chaldean Empire,
Babylonian Empire,
Greek Empire,
Roman Empire,
Byzantine Empire,
Spanish Empire,
Ottoman Turkish Empire,
British Empire,
Austro-Hungarian Empire,
German Empire,
French Empire,
Russia Empire,
Soviet Empire,
Nazi Empire

Irrationality:
We are the only people ever accused of “deicide” (killing a god)—this has been claimed as one of the major causes of anti-Semitism for almost 2000 years. Despite the fact that eating blood is as strong a prohibition as that against eating pork, Jews were constantly persecuted throughout the Middle Ages through blood libels, the charge that we drank the blood of non-Jewish children. We were attacked in pogroms for well-poisoning and once even for air-poisoning.

The Jews in Germany were accused of having brought Socialism and Communism to Germany, of being responsible for Germany losing World War I, and of causing the economic problems of the 1920’s. This paranoia existed in spite of the fact that the percentage of Jews in Germany at the time was only 0.8%. Many nations have even hurt themselves with their persecution of the Jews, most notably Spain (economically) and Germany (with science, culture, military, etc.).

A forgery purporting to be the conspiratorial discussions of Jewish elders plotting to take over the world, “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” was, next to the Bible, the best-selling book in the world during the 1920’s. It has since been printed in numerous languages. Since 1987 it is being widely distributed in Japan…

Of all the extreme fanaticism that plays havoc in man’s nature, there is none as irrational as anti-Semitism. The Jews cannot vindicate themselves in the eyes of these fanatics. If the Jews are rich, they are victims of theft and extortion. If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to gain advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because they are scared and anxious by nature or traitors to their country. If the Jew dwells in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to his own land, he is prevented from doing so. - Lloyd George, 1923



Whatever we do, that is precisely what is cited as the reason for the hatred against us. At the same time that Jews in America were accused of being communists, Jews in Russia were being labeled as capitalists. The more one studies anti-Semitism, the more obvious it becomes that the innumerable “explanations” offered throughout the various societies in which Jews have resided are not reasons at all (i.e. whose absence would necessarily result in no more persecutions), but rather excuses.

But as my research into Jewish history progressed, I was surprised, depressed, and to some extent overwhelmed by the perpetual and irrational violence which pursued the Jews in every country and to almost every corner of the globe. If, therefore, persecution, expulsion, torture, humiliation, and mass murder haunt these pages, it is because they also haunt the Jewish story.
- Martin Gilbert, “Jewish History Atlas” Oxford 1985

It has been prophesied in the Torah that Jews will be persecuted:

“Among those nations you shall find no respite, no rest for your foot. There God will make you cowardly, destroying your outlook and making life hopeless. You will live in constant suspense. Day and night, you will be terrified, never sure of your existence. In the morning you will say, ‘If only it were night,’ and in the evening you will say, ‘If only it were morning!’ Such will be the dread that your heart will feel and the sights that your eyes will see” (Deut. 28:65-67).

No other form of racial hatred comes close to anti-Semitism in its virulence, its intensity and its irrationality.

As Professor Michael Curtis of Rutgers University put it:

“The uniqueness of anti-Semitism lies in the fact that no other people in the world have ever been charged simultaneously with alienation from society and with cosmopolitanism, with being capitalistic exploiters and also revolutionary communist advocators. The Jews were accused of having an imperious mentality, at the same time they’re a people of the book. They’re accused of being militant aggressors, at the same time as being cowardly pacifists. With being a chosen people, and also having an inferior human nature. With both arrogance and timidity. With both extreme individualism and community adherence. With being guilty of the crucifixion of Jesus and at the same time held to account for the invention of Christianity.” (Colloquium on anti-Semitism, 1987)

If we look at the history of anti-Semitism, we see one unceasing chain of slaughter, pogroms, pillaging, expulsion, etc. There are horrendous levels of violence that lead up to the worst thing that can be done to a hated people: Genocide. Most nations in history have not been subjected to even one genocide. But in almost every generation there’s an attempted Jewish genocide somewhere in the world on a macrocosmic or microcosmic scale.
Jewish Persecution Timeline

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdCo...aspx?id=245708


Dispersed among the Nations, the Jews brought a great many benefits to a great many people. As a Gentile I thank them and YHWH.


http://www.jinfo.org/

"And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many peoples, as dew from the Lord, as showers upon the grass..." MICAH 5:6*

The Jews started it all - and by "it" I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and Gentile, believer and atheist, tick. Without the Jews, we would see the world with different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings. And not only would our sensorium, the screen through which we receive the world, be different: we would think with a different mind, interpret all our experience differently, draw different conclusions from the things that befall us. And we would set a different course for our lives.
By "we" I mean the usual "we" of late-twentieth-century writing: the people of the Western world, whose peculiar but vital mentality has come to infect every culture on earth, so that, in a startlingly precise sense, all humanity is now willy-nilly caught up in this "we." For better or worse, the role of the West in humanity's history is singular. Because of this, the role of the Jews, the inventors of Western culture, is also singular: there is simply no one else remotely like them; theirs is a unique vocation. Indeed, as we shall see, the very idea of vocation, of a personal destiny, is a Jewish idea.

Our history is replete with examples of those who have refused to see what the Jews are really about, who - through intellectual blindness, racial chauvinism, xenophobia, or just plain evil - have been unable to give this oddball tribe, this raggle-taggle band, this race of wanderers who are the progenitors of the Western world, their due. Indeed, at the end of this bloodiest of centuries, we can all too easily look back on scenes of unthinkable horror perpetrated by those who would do anything rather than give the Jews their due.

But I must ask my readers to erase from their minds not only the horrors of history - modern, medieval, and ancient - but (so far as one can) the very notion of history itself. More especially, we must erase from our minds all the suppositions on which our world is built - the whole intricate edifice of actions and ideas that are our intellectual and emotional patrimony. We must reimagine ourselves in the form of humanity that lived and moved on this planet before the first word of the Bible was written down, before it was spoken, before it was even dreamed ...

... All evidence points to there having been, in the earliest religious thought, a vision of the cosmos that was profoundly cyclical. The assumptions that early man made about the world were, in all their essentials, little different from the assumptions that later and more sophisticated societies, like Greece and India, would make in a more elaborate manner. As Henri-Charles Puech says of Greek thought in his seminal Man and Time: "No event is unique, nothing is enacted but once ... every event has been enacted, is enacted, and will be enacted perpetually; the same individuals have appeared, appear, and will appear at every turn of the circle."

The Jews were the first people to break out of this circle, to find a new way of thinking and experiencing, a new way of understanding and feeling the world, so much so that it may be said with some justice that theirs is the only new idea that human beings have ever had. But their world view has become so much a part of us that at this point it might as well have been written into our cells as a genetic code. We find it so impossible to shed - even for a brief experiment - that it is now the cosmic vision of all other peoples that appears to us exotic and strange.


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Adapted with permission of the publisher from A History of the Jews, by Paul Johnson (HarperCollins, New York, 1987, p. 585; http://www.harpercollins.com).
In his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus describes Abraham as 'a man of great sagacity' who had 'higher notions of virtue than others of his time'. He therefore 'determined to change completely the views which all then had about God'. One way of summing up 4,000 years of Jewish history is to ask ourselves what would have happened to the human race if Abraham had not been a man of great sagacity, or if he had stayed in Ur and kept his higher notions to himself, and no specific Jewish people had come into being. Certainly the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they have been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of the human person; of the individual conscience, and so of personal redemption; of the collective conscience, and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items that constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without the Jews it might have been a much emptier place. Above all, the Jews taught us how to rationalize the unknown. The result was monotheism...



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Adapted with permission of the publisher from On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense at the American Founding, by Michael Novak (Encounter Books, San Francisco, CA, 2002, pp. 8-12; http://www.encounterbooks.com).
"The Bible was the one book that literate Americans in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth centuries could be expected to know well," Robert Bellah has written. "Biblical imagery provided the basic framework for imaginative thought in America up until quite recent times and, unconsciously, its control is still formidable." As a design for the Seal of the United States, Jefferson suggested "a representation of the children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night." He later concluded his second inaugural address with this same image: "I shall need ... the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old, from their native land and planted them in a country flowing with all the necessaries and comforts of life." The image of "God's American Israel" made available four fresh perspectives, brought to intense focus by the Americans in a new and historically original way.

The first of these new perspectives was a narrative of purpose and progress. The Gentiles of the ancient world believed in cycles of time as regular (they thought) as the circular movements of the stars. They believed in eternal recurrence. But the Americans of 1770-1799 did not believe that time is cyclical, going nowhere, spinning in circles pointlessly. They believed that history had a beginning and was guided by Providence for a purpose... Time (in the view of the founders) was created for the unfolding of human liberty, for human emancipation. This purpose requires humans to choose for or against building cities worthy of the ideals God sets before them: liberty, justice, equality, self-government, and brotherhood...

... History, in this sense - open, purposive, contingent in liberty - is not a Greek or Roman idea. It is Hebraic; its source springs from the Biblical historians and prophets. Probably most of the humans who had ever lived before the arrival of Judaism on the world stage never even heard of "progress." The literature of Greece and Rome looks backwards, to golden ages of the past; the movement of time is circular. For Jews and Christians, by contrast, history is heading somewhere new: toward the New Kingdom of God, a kingdom of justice and love and peace, a new city on a hill...

... Second, Hebrew metaphysics held that everything in creation in all its workings and purposes is intelligible - suffused with reason, not absurd - in the eyes of a divine and loving Creator, Who created from nothing everything that is, and saw that it was good, and loved it; a Creator Who is more powerful than earthquakes, floods, erupting volcanos, hurricanes or anything else in the world, and different from them. One should not mistake this God for any part of His creation - as the Mayan Indians seem to have done, identifying God with rain and snakes and frogs and jackals (powerful forces in the dark, all of them). On the one hand, the world is not in itself divine. On the other, its Creator cannot be touched, tasted, heard, seen, or smelled. The Creator is independent of the world; therefore, the world can be looked into, investigated, and experimented with without infringing on His divinity. Strictly speaking, the Creator is beyond human categories, cannot be expressed in words that are like other words, imagined from the things of this world, or named as other things are named. He is not part of the material world. Seeking Him, it is better to aim one's mind in the direction of Spirit and Truth rather than matter, toward an Ineffable One Whom we do not name...

...Third, cherishing humble and weak things most of all, the Creator made at least two creatures to know Him, to love Him, and in total freedom (and not as slaves) to walk with Him - "male and female, He made them" (Genesis 1:27). "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time," Jefferson wrote summarizing the Biblical metaphysic. Liberty is the human condition established by the Bible, nearly every chapter of which turns upon its axis. What will Adam, King David, Peter, Saul, do next? Liberty is the axis of the universe, the ground of the possibility of love, human and divine... Moreover, the American tradition clearly distinguished a false idea of liberty - license - from the true liberty exercised in reflection and deliberate choice. Despite this high calling, men and women fail often, are vulnerable to human weakness, and are in want of checks and balances against their frailties.

Fourth, in Hebrew metaphysics the brief span of a human life is experienced as a time of suffering, testing whether humans can remain faithful to God's purposes in creating them - whether we will (or will not) show grace under pressure. In the Bible, the bright red thread of human history is not just liberty but liberty on trial...

...This drama of liberty gave birth to two "whig" theories of history, one Protestant and one Catholic. Nowadays, even secular people interpret history in the light of progress, rights, and liberty. Yet unbelievers received these concepts neither from the Greeks and Romans nor from Enlightened Reason, but via the preaching of Jesus Christ, from whom the Gentiles learned the essential outlook of the Hebrews: that the Creator gave humans a special place among all other creatures, and made them free, and endowed them with incomparable responsibility and dignity.

This sequence of related conceptions - that time had a beginning and is measured for progress (or decline) by God's standards; that everything in the world is intelligible, and that to inquire, invent, and discover is an impulse of faith as well as of reason; that the Creator endowed us with liberty and inviolable dignity, while the Divine Judge shows concern for the weak and the humble; that life is a time of duty and trial; and that history is to be grasped as the drama of human liberty - all these are the background that make sense of the Declaration of Independence. America and Israel, the first Israel and the second, shed light on each other...

Well......................if you liked this Thread thus far.now you're gonna be ecstatic!!!

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/quotes/

“I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations ... They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.”

- John Adams, Second President of the United States
(From a letter to F. A. Van der Kemp [Feb. 16, 1808] Pennsylvania Historical Society)

http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...pactofthejews/

Do any of you understand the concept of Abstract Ethical Monotheism?

“This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth… [But] for the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; [and] as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

- Robert Jastrow
(God and the Astronomers [New York: W.W. Norton and Co., 1978], 116. Professor Jastrow was the founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute, now director of the Mount Wilson Institute and its observatory.)


”...If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky way. properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.

The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed; and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”

- Mark Twain
(“Concerning The Jews,” Harper’s Magazine, 1899
see The Complete Essays of Mark Twain, Doubleday [1963] pg. 249)


“if we were forced to choose just one, there would be no way to deny that Judaism is the most important intellectual development in human history.”
- David Gelernter, Yale University Professor



“The preservation of the Jews is really one of the most signal and illustrious acts of divine Providence… and what but a supernatural power could have preserved them in such a manner as none other nation upon earth hath been preserved. Nor is the providence of God less remarkable in the destruction of their enemies, than in their preservation… We see that the great empires, which in their turn subdued and oppressed the people of God, are all come to ruin… And if such hath been the fatal end of the enemies and oppressors of the Jews, let it serve as a warning to all those, who at any time or upon any occasion are for raising a clamor and persecution against them.”

- Thomas Newton - British Clergyman: Bishop of Bristol (1704-1782)


“For many people during many centuries, mankind’s history before the coming of Christianity was the history of the Jews and what they recounted of the history of others. Both were written down in the books called the Old Testament, [the Torah] the sacred writings of the Jewish people ... They were the first to arrive at an abstract notion of God and to forbid his representation by images. No other people has produced a greater historical impact from such comparatively insignificant origins and resources ...”
- J.M. Roberts, History Of The World



Intolerance lies at the core of evil.
Not the intolerance that results
from any threat or danger.
But intolerance of another being who dares to exist.
Intolerance without cause. It is so deep within us,
because every human being secretly desires
the entire universe to himself.
Our only way out is to learn
compassion without cause. To care for each other
simple because that ‘other’ exists.
- Rabbi Menachem Mendle

This people are not eminent solely by their antiquity, but are also singular by their duration, which has always continued from their origin till now. For, whereas the nations of Greece and of Italy, of Lacedaemon, of Athens and of Rome, and others who came long after, have long since perished, these ever remain, and in spite of the endeavors of many powerful kings who have a hundred times tried to destroy them, as their historians testify, and as it is easy to conjecture from the natural order of things during so long a space of years, they have nevertheless been preserved (and this preservation has been foretold); and extending from the earliest times to the latest, their history comprehends in its duration all our histories (which it preceded by a long time).
- Pensees by Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1952 - Paragraph 620, p. 285


“Certainly, the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without Jews it might have been a much emptier place.”

- Paul Johnson
(Christian historian, author of A History of the Jews and A History of Christianity)


“This one book (the Bible) ... has attracted to it, and had concentrated on it, vastly more thought and has called forth more works, explanatory, illustrative, apologetic, upon its text, its meaning, its geography, its theology, its chronology, its evidences, its inspiration, its origin, than all the rest of the literature of the world put together. An immense bulk of the world’s literature owes its origin to this book.”
- Carlyle B Heynes in The Bible, Is it a True Book


“What is the Jew?...What kind of unique creature is this whom all the rulers of all the nations of the world have disgraced and crushed and expelled and destroyed; persecuted, burned and drowned, and who, despite their anger and their fury, continues to live and to flourish. What is this Jew whom they have never succeeded in enticing with all the enticements in the world, whose oppressors and persecutors only suggested that he deny (and disown) his religion and cast aside the faithfulness of his ancestors?!
The Jew - is the symbol of eternity. ... He is the one who for so long had guarded the prophetic message and transmitted it to all mankind. A people such as this can never disappear.
The Jew is eternal. He is the embodiment of eternity.”

- Leo Tolstoy
(What is the Jew?
quoted in The Final Resolution, pg. 189, printed in Jewish World periodical, 1908)


“Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas.”


It is against their own insoluble problem of being human that the dull and base in humanity are in revolt in anti-Semitism. Judaism, nevertheless, together with Hellenism and Christianity is an inalienable component of our Christian Western civilization, the eternal “call to Sinai” against which humanity again and again rebels.”
- Herman Rauschning, The Beast From the Abyss, pp. 155-56

You're welcome in advance

The Jews, not the New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi tru lilly The Jews; YHWHs 'Chosen Bearers of His Word' overwhemingly support Israel which ios th eREAL ZION................................NOT Australia the fake zion...........

I think you need to understand what the word TRUTH means..........Factual reality based experience............your allegations that most people who acall themselves Jews are lying and that most Jews are opposed to Israel/Zionism are false. These allegations are not supported by facts.
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antiz...s_not_Jews.htm


In summary

Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemitic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please. However you may as well declare Jews to be organges for all the meaning that has. It is unfortunate that a few sites, mostly antisemitic ones such as Serendipity link to the sites of the Satmar and Neturei Karta and try to spin a narrative of Zionists being a minority of Jews. It's unfortunate both because people believe it and get their facts wrong, but also becuase of the antisemitism they spread, antisemitism that those who wish to draw a destinction between the minority called Jews and the "evil entity" they have been attacking called Zionism are more than susceptible to.


If you would bother to read actual, credentialed History books, you would know that the Khazari Nation never converted to Judaism............the Royal Family did(King Bula), but the population largely remained Pagan, Dendrists, Animists, polytheists....

The Facts are: Israel is more legitimate then many other Nations, The Jews in Israel are genetically decended from the Ancient Israelites.....The Arabs suffer more oppression and mistreatment from other arabs......

You've bought into too much antisemitic propaganda..............in this Thread you have called me a Dog, A Rat, and a Whore.........your judgements based on false beliefs..........YOU are the threat to peace, you are the fearmongering, hatemongering liar............

http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/

Here's the question: anti-Zionist or non-Zionist, is there a difference? The answer is yes. A Zionist is someone who supports the existance of a State of Israel as a Jewish Home Land (where Jews and others can live). A non-Zionist is one is not a Zionist. An anti-Zionist is someone who activly disputes the fact that Israel has a right to exist. Note that this is not the same as disagreeing with one or more Israeli government policies, it's more like supporting the President of Iran's calls to wipe Israel off the map. One can disagree with the actions of Israel as a state without being against the state's right to exist, and the right of the Jewish people to have their home land. Often though anti-Zionism is a mask for antisemitism and anti-Zionists will regurgitate antisemitic propoganda that was used in Nazi Germany, just changing "Zionist" or "Jew". Arguments against "the Zionists" as often supported by "evidence" from antisemitic propoganda such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or through classic antisemitism such as blood liable. There is a huge difference between speaking out against Israeli policy you disagree with and falling in with a racist crowd and adopting their arguments.

http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq...faq/14-05.html

Diaspora Jews, on the whole, support Zionism in one way or another through active participation in aspects of the movement itself, or through public and/or financial support of Israel.

Some Diaspora Jews realize their belief in Zionism by immigrating to the Land of Israel (making 'aliyah' - "going up") to participate directly in the task of rebuilding the nation.

Diaspora Jews, whether or not associated with Zionist activities, have been enriched culturally, socially and spiritually by the reestablishment of Israel in its ancestral homeland. Even non-Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews find Israel an excellent place for Torah study

lilly, do you want me to Post the above information is all your Threads?

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