Nurses gagged, afraid of management

• Casualty a gang battleground Herald Sun, 10 days ago
  
• Two nurses attacked in past year Herald Sun, 15 Jul 2011
  
• Angry nurses strike blow for safety The Daily Telegraph, 15 Jul 2011
  
• Scared nurses to walk off the job The Daily Telegraph, 14 Jul 2011
  
• Nurses plan stop work following stabbing Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
  

• Woman alleges porn shown at work Herald Sun, 1 Aug 2011
  
• Jail threat for workplace bullies Courier Mail, 9 Jul 2011
  
• Make Brodie's Law national: parents Herald Sun, 31 May 2011
  
• Suicide teen's parents ramp up campaign Herald Sun, 31 May 2011
  
• Bullies now subject to Brodie's Law Herald Sun, 30 May 2011
  

• Union, Labor cash to scandal MP Adelaide Now, 8 hours ago
  
• MP Thomson took union payout The Daily Telegraph, 9 hours ago
  
• How HSU money flowed to Labor The Australian, 9 hours ago
  
• NSW key to Thomson scandal The Daily Telegraph, 2 days ago
  
• MP's scandal now reaches PM's office Adelaide Now, 4 days ago
  

• MPs to get an overseer Courier Mail, 16 hours ago
  
• Union bashing masks good government Perth Now, 16 hours ago
  
• PM's integrity undermined: Abbott The Australian, 2 days ago
  
• Emerson hits back in defence of Thomson Courier Mail, 2 days ago
  
• Bring it on scumbags, says union boss Courier Mail, 2 days ago
  

• Union: Thomson financial records 'missing'
  
  
• Party Games: NSW Labor cancer spreads federally
  
  
• Thomson: I'll clear my name, says MP
  
  
• Claims: Gillard drawn into Thomson scandal
  

true lilly wrote:So, "YOU" are still, LORDING the lowest of the lowest of THUGS?

Those I've been warning people about for decades.

Despite *it now being all over the Main Stream Media?

*it, being how 'those' 'respectable' THUGS NETwork
with other THUGS to keep a 'respectable' 'image'.

"YOU" KNOW, like those tools of "tintin"/'david icke',
who set 'their' THUGS to bash old ladies into hospital,
where 'their' 'respectable' thug mates/'health' PROS.
can have an excuse for accessing the most personal
of files to find the next, best way to, hurt, damage and
poison a target & threaten them some more and, even
deny them life saving treatment while 'they' ARE AT *IT?

Well, 'lucky' for some, they know and trust (their lives to)
THE SAVIOUR. ...

Romans 1:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=1&t=KJV#23
22,
Professing themselves ⁵³³⁵ to be ¹⁵¹¹ wise ⁴⁶⁸⁰,
they became fools ³⁴⁷¹ ,


23,
And ²⁵³² changed ²³⁶ the glory ¹³⁹¹
of the uncorruptible ⁸⁶² God ²³¹⁶
into ¹⁷²² an image ¹⁵⁰⁴ made like ³⁶⁶⁷
to corruptible ⁵³⁴⁹ man ⁴⁴⁴,
and ²⁵³² to birds ⁴⁰⁷¹,
and ²⁵³² fourfooted beasts ⁵⁰⁷⁴,
and ²⁵³² creeping things ²⁰⁶².


29 to 32 (but really, IT IS ALL THE BOOKS,
WITHIN THE BOOK, that NEEDS STUDY),
Being filled with ⁴¹³⁷ all ³⁹⁵⁶ unrighteousness ⁹³,
fornication ⁴²⁰², wickedness ⁴¹⁸⁹, covetousness ⁴¹²⁴,
maliciousness ²⁵⁴⁹;
full ³³²⁴ of envy ⁵³⁵⁵, murder ⁵⁴⁰⁸, debate ²⁰⁵⁴,
deceit ¹³⁸⁸, malignity ²⁵⁵⁰; whisperers ⁵⁵⁸⁸,

Backbiters ²⁶³⁷, haters of God ²³¹⁹,
despiteful ⁵¹⁹⁷, proud ⁵²⁴⁴, boasters ²¹³,
inventors ²¹⁸² of evil things ²⁵⁵⁶,
disobedient ⁵⁴⁵ to parents ¹¹¹⁸,

Without understanding ⁸⁰¹, covenantbreakers ⁸⁰²,
without natural affection ⁷⁹⁴, implacable ⁷⁸⁶, unmerciful ⁴¹⁵:

Who ³⁷⁴⁸ knowing ¹⁹²¹ the judgment ¹³⁴⁵ of God ²³¹⁶,
that ³⁷⁵⁴ they which commit ⁴²³⁸ such things ⁵¹⁰⁸
are ¹⁵²⁶ worthy ⁵¹⁴ of death ²²⁸⁸,
not ³⁷⁵⁶ only ³⁴⁴⁰ do ⁴¹⁶⁰ the same ⁸⁴⁶, but ^{235 2532}
have pleasure ⁴⁹⁰⁹ in them that do ⁴²³⁸ them.


...rather than BACK-STABBING SCUM.

true lilly wrote:SHOVEL DISCOVERED
108 comments

Nurses gagged, afraid of management

Melissa Jenkins
From:AAP
August 30, 2011 12:00AM
19 comments

NURSES at Victorian hospitals are gagged from speaking out against
violence perpetrated against them at work and fear management, an
inquiry has heard.

Dandenong Hospital emergency department nurse Leslie Graham said
she suffers either physical or verbal abuse at work about every second
day.
Ms Graham told a parliamentary inquiry into security at the
state's hospitals that, in addition to verbal aggression, she and her
colleagues get bitten, punched and slapped and have objects thrown at
them.
"We have people ... pull their IVs out and throw
blood-stained cannulas, sharps, any kind of weapon they can get their
hands on, chairs, at the nursing staff," she said yesterday.
"You just press your duress (alarm) and run away."
Ms
Graham said despite frequently being subjected to violence she had
never reported it to police because she thought it would cause issues
with management.

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• Nurses plan stop work following stabbing Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
  

"If I had a serious issue against myself I would report that to
the police, but I know that a lot of people are afraid of the
management of different hospitals," she said.
"(A nurse who) got
strangled never reported it to the police, and we weren't allowed to
make any of the public aware of the violence that we ... come up
against because then we could end up in court."
Ms Graham said
the design of the new $25 million emergency ward at the hospital, which
is run by Southern Health, also contributed to violence against staff.
There were instances where staff were backed into corners and unmonitored corridors, she said.
"We
have just had a brand-new emergency department that has been designed
and built not by anyone who has ever worked in an emergency
department," Ms Graham said.
The inquiry, held by state
parliament's drugs and crime prevention committee, was ordered by
Police Minister Peter Ryan after criticism of the coalition's
pre-election promise to station armed guards at emergency wards.
Ms
Graham said armed guards would not help the situation at her hospital
and there needed to be more unarmed security staff instead of just one
guard working between 6pm and 3am.
Royal Children's Hospital
emergency department nurse Peter Sloman said although the hospital's
new facility was more secure, there were still design problems.
The hospital's director of emergency services Simon Young said he did not support the introduction of armed guards.
Australian
Nursing Federation (ANF) Victorian branch assistant secretary Paul
Gilbert said the $21 million the government had pledged for 120 armed
guards could fund an extra 235 full-time nurses in emergency
departments.
ANF Victoria occupational health and safety
coordinator Kathy Chrisfield said introducing armed guards into
emergency departments would simply create another hazard.
19 comments on this story


Push to make Brodie's Law national

Michelle Ainsworth
From:Herald Sun
August 30, 2011 7:29AM
1 comment


Brodie Panlock died in 2006.
Herald Sun

LEGISLATION to tackle workplace bullying across Australia should be
introduced following the adoption of Brodie's Law in Victoria, advocates
say.

The Victorian law was named for 19-year-old Brodie Panlock who took her own life in 2006 after being bullied as a waitress.
The
workplace bullying laws were passed in Victoria in June and Ms
Panlock’s parents, Damian and Rae, said at the time they wanted to see
federal laws to make the offence punishable by up to 10 years' jail in
any state.
Employment law firm Maurice Blackburn has today called on the federal government to introduce national laws.
Maurice
Blackburn employment lawyer Josh Bornstein said workplace bullying was
present in all professions but was not specifically addressed by any
federal law.
"Workplace bullying involves degrading, belittling,
humiliating and threatening behaviour; in some cases it spills over into
violence," Mr Bornstein said.

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• Bullies now subject to Brodie's Law Herald Sun, 30 May 2011
  

"It is devastating for victims and their families and has an immense economic impact."
Mr
Bornstein said the productivity commission had estimated bullying and
harassment cost the Australian economy between $6 billion and $36
billion each year.
Mrs Panlock said in June Brodie’s Law sent "a clear message that bullying is a cowardly act and won't be tolerated".
"We'd like this law to be across the board from state to state," she said.
"I just hope that no family ever has to go through this again."
A Facebook page has been set up to support the call for federal laws.
1 comment on this story


Health union settled a payout with federal MP Craig Thomson
Andrew Clennell and Steve Lewis
From:Herald Sun
August 30, 2011 12:00AM


Federal Labor MP Craig Thomson.
PerthNow

THE Health Services Union paid tens of thousands of dollars to
federal MP Craig Thomson last year in a settlement, despite allegations
he spent union funds on prostitutes.

The revelation means the embattled MP has now double dipped from
Labor and the unions - taking more than $150,000 from Labor for his
legal fees against Fairfax, and taking tens of thousands more from the
HSU in a settlement after the allegations.
Mr Thomson had been
suing the HSU for defamation and for an alleged $190,000 in entitlements
for leave he claimed he was owed, which the union withheld after the
credit card allegations came to light.
Mr Thomson is accused of
stealing from the unions, including spending thousands on his credit
card hiring prostitutes and withdrawing more than $100,000 in cash
advances from the card from 2002 to 2007.
The union referred the matter to Fair Work Australia in 2008, a year after Mr Thomson entered Parliament.

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• MP's scandal now reaches PM's office Adelaide Now, 4 days ago
  

But last year the union settled on the suits Mr Thomson had taken
against the union, paying him tens of thousands of the $190,000 he
claimed, sources have confirmed.
NSW Labor spent more than $150,000 on Mr Thomson's legal fees when he dropped a defamation suit against Fairfax.
Senior
Labor sources have said they paid Mr Thomson's fees amid concern he
would go bankrupt, which would have seen him ineligible to remain in
Parliament, and could have brought down the Gillard Government.
Union
sources have raised concerns a Fair Work Australia investigation into
the alleged rorts within the union has taken two years.
They are
also concerned the inquiry has not interviewed several people on the
Health Services Union's national executive who may have information.
Mr
Thomson's pregnant wife, radio newsreader Zoe Arnold, has taken early
leave from her radio station Sea FM on the Central Coast amid the stress
of the scandal.


Shovels at dawn and the dirt is flying
Mitchell Toy
From:Sunday Herald Sun
August 28, 2011 12:00AM


Craig Thomson
Supplied

THE Thomson prostitution affair intensified yesterday as the major
parties traded blows over the scandal that threatened to derail the
Gillard Government.

Trade Minister Craig Emerson accused the Opposition of capitalising on sleaze for political points.
He
warned Opposition MPs to "back off" over the mounting scandal and
claimed Opposition Leader Tony Abbott was trying an "easy, sleazy path
to The Lodge".
Mr Abbott returned fire during an address to the
Liberal Party State Council in Hobart, asserting that calling the
Gillard Government the worst since Gough Whitlam's was "very unfair on
Gough Whitlam".
"Gough Whitlam would never have run away from
parliamentary scrutiny the way this Prime Minister has over the last
fortnight," Mr Abbott said.
He claimed that a dirty shovel placed
on the doorstep of the home of HSU secretary Kathy Jackson, who
referred former union chief Craig Thomson to police amid claims of
fraud, was the work of operatives within the ALP.

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• Bring it on scumbags, says union boss Courier Mail, 2 days ago
  

"This is someone who has stood up for what's right and for her
trouble she is now the subject of the most vicious form of payback
inside the Labor Party," Mr Abbott said.
Mr Emerson also hit back
at Nationals leader Warren Truss, who yesterday said the Government
stank of corruption, as NSW police continued to investigate Labor MP
Craig Thomson over claims he used a union credit card to pay
prostitutes.
"If the Nationals leader has evidence of corruption
in the Labor Party, he should do the right thing and take that evidence
to the police," Mr Emerson said.


Health Services Union's Kathy Jackson
defiant in face of dirt shovel threat
in Craig Thomson affair
Steve Lewis, Phillip Hudson, Andrew Clennell
From:The Courier-Mail
August 27, 2011 1:29PM
41 comments

PM denies prior Thomson knowle...
Thomson owes explanation to me...
Union reveals probe into Thoms...


Watch
PM denies prior Thomson knowledge

PM Julia Gillard has denied she knew about allegations surrounding Labor backbencher Craig Thomson


Watch
Thomson owes 'explanation to members'

The HSU secretary has called on Craig Thomson to explain himself to the union members he once represented.


Watch
Union reveals probe into Thomson years

Thomson is under pressure to explain to parliament the suspected misuse of Health Services Union funds.


TIPPING POINT: The actions of embattled Labor MP Craig Thomson and Health Services
Union national secretary Kathy Jackson could bring down the Gillard
Government. Picture: Aaron Francis
Source: The Courier-Mail

THE union boss who blew the whistle on Labor MP Craig Thomson has
been offered police protection after a menacing threat at her Melbourne
home.

Kathy Jackson, whose actions could bring down the Gillard
Government, last night vowed to take on the "scumbags" who left a
dirt-covered shovel on her doorstep.
"Give it your best shot," the Health Services Union national secretary said, in a defiant challenge to her unknown attackers.
The Courier-Mail can
also reveal that Mr Thomson's initial defence - that he was interstate
when his credit card was used to hire prostitutes - has been severely
challenged by court records.
In a formal defence against the
allegations - contained in a May 2009 letter to the HSU lawyers - the
Labor MP argued he could not have spent $2475 on a Sydney escort agency
on April 9, 2005, because "I was in Melbourne".

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But court records show that he rang the escort agency on April 7/8
and also paid by credit card on those dates - before later reversing the
charges and paying on a different credit card.
Ms Jackson
referred allegations that Mr Thomson had spent $150,000-plus of union
funds on prostitutes and other personal items to the NSW Police on
Wednesday.
The union official has refused police protection and
said she wouldn't "lock herself away", also claiming she was targeted
because she was a woman in the male-dominated union world.
"Women
should not be subjected to this sort of conduct," she said. "I'm a big
girl and if they think that this is going to stop us, then they have
picked the wrong girl."
Mike Williamson, the HSU national
president who is reported to have initially opposed Ms Jackson in her
attempts to have the Thomson matter referred to police, said: "I think
it was an appalling incident and I hope the police catch whoever was
involved very quickly."
The sinister twist came as the Coalition
called on Prime Minister Julia Gillard to explain when she had first
learned of the allegations against Mr Thomson, whose resignation would
likely see the demise of the Government.
"She owes it to the
public to tell us what she knew, when she knew it and what she did about
it," Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said yesterday.
Former
Industrial Registrar Doug Williams last night repeated his assertion
that Ms Gillard's chief of staff, Ben Hubbard, had rung him in the early
months of 2009 to inquire about Craig Thomson.
"I clearly believe
that the first time I heard of Mr Thomson, in relation to any inquiries
I was making, was in the phone call I received from Mr Hubbard," Mr
Williams said.
It can also be revealed that the HSU national
executive admitted there was a serious problem with the former national
secretary's credit card as early as March 2008, when it imposed a limit
on Kathy Jackson's credit card of $10,000 and limited other employees to
$5000.
Leaked HSU minutes show that the union imposed a rule that
there were to be "no cash withdrawals" from HSU credit cards and that
receipts and tax invoices were to be kept for all credit card
expenditure.
The Prime Minister yesterday denied having any prior
knowledge of the allegations against Mr Thomson before they were made
public in April 2009.
She said such a phone call would have been
"unremarkable" and part of regular communication between Government
advisers and public servants.
The Government also tabled a Senate
document that said Mr Williams had rung Mr Hubbard on April 8, 2009 -
the day before the first article appeared.
41 comments on this story

Aunt Tiswas wrote:Damn'Sod! can you put this woman's thread in her special section of forum because it is unimportant useless rubbish!! cut and paste crap and she has really let this forum go downhill!!!

What a twat, "YOU" ARE,
TO GIVE AWAY "YOUR" INTEREST,
IN PROTECTING THE LOWEST OF THE LOW,
AND SO, BLATANTLY!

JUST LIKE ALL WHO HAVE CRAWLED UP
"lord of the lies icke's" ARSE.

THANKS, for.... COMING OUT!

Aunt Tiswas wrote:Damn'Sod! can you put this woman's thread in her special section of forum because it is unimportant useless rubbish!! cut and paste crap and she has really let this forum go downhill!!!

true lilly wrote:

Aunt Tiswas wrote:Damn'Sod! can you put this woman's thread in her special section of forum because it is unimportant useless rubbish!! cut and paste crap and she has really let this forum go downhill!!!

What a twat, "YOU" ARE,
TO GIVE AWAY "YOUR" INTEREST,
IN PROTECTING THE LOWEST OF THE LOW,
AND SO, BLATANTLY!

JUST LIKE ALL WHO HAVE CRAWLED UP
"lord of the lies icke's" ARSE.

THANKS, for.... COMING OUT!

true lilly wrote:

John Drake wrote:Why do this to yourself Tiswas?
You know i will now ask you for links to this racist stuff you say i
post and you know you cant provide because you made it up, its a lie
lol. It is interesting how you "friends" lie to eachother all the time.
Its also fun to catch you. So what about that pack of lies Billy told you in this thread? What about him downloading, creating and sending child porn on the net? You dont seem to object to that.

As
for MT yup i took him on at IL and smashed his arse. Its easy to smash
people like him because they talk shit ........ or do you agree with
him?

ADL???? More lies to your mate lol. Go on billy show where i threatened you with the ADL. I
informed Handbag that you were using his forum to send child porn as i
informed the police. Just what any normal person would do.

Now what have you to say about lying to Tiswas?

umm...so why is Jason still out & about?

And would any decent
(or even indecent by not bloody stupid), person,
want to be know to Jason's 'mate'?

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:

John Drake wrote:Why do this to yourself Tiswas?
You know i will now ask you for links to this racist stuff you say i
post and you know you cant provide because you made it up, its a lie
lol. It is interesting how you "friends" lie to eachother all the time.
Its also fun to catch you. So what about that pack of lies Billy told you in this thread? What about him downloading, creating and sending child porn on the net? You dont seem to object to that.

As
for MT yup i took him on at IL and smashed his arse. Its easy to smash
people like him because they talk shit ........ or do you agree with
him?

ADL???? More lies to your mate lol. Go on billy show where i threatened you with the ADL. I
informed Handbag that you were using his forum to send child porn as i
informed the police. Just what any normal person would do.

Now what have you to say about lying to Tiswas?

umm...so why is Jason still out & about?

And would any decent
(or even indecent by not bloody stupid), person,
want to be know to Jason's 'mate'?

"Industry" connections?

el kabong wrote:


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el kabong wrote:

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true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:

John Drake wrote:Why do this to yourself Tiswas?
You know i will now ask you for links to this racist stuff you say i
post and you know you cant provide because you made it up, its a lie
lol. It is interesting how you "friends" lie to eachother all the time.
Its also fun to catch you. So what about that pack of lies Billy told you in this thread? What about him downloading, creating and sending child porn on the net? You dont seem to object to that.

As
for MT yup i took him on at IL and smashed his arse. Its easy to smash
people like him because they talk shit ........ or do you agree with
him?

ADL???? More lies to your mate lol. Go on billy show where i threatened you with the ADL. I
informed Handbag that you were using his forum to send child porn as i
informed the police. Just what any normal person would do.

Now what have you to say about lying to Tiswas?

umm...so why is Jason still out & about?

And would any decent
(or even indecent by not bloody stupid), person,
want to be know to Jason's 'mate'?

"Industry" connections?

Billy Ruben aka Jason wrote:yeah I'm a sick f#ck,
and any chance I get to bang my niece is time well spent.

true lilly wrote:And again, to any independent, thinking readers,
who may stumble in here:

Another reason "that mob" so violently, reacted,
to the now, Major National News, of how the scum,
get into the fields of 'health' to NETwork, to use,
manipulate & destroy people for personal advantage,
is because it isn't only Jason who uses the,
'I'm just a nutter', cover,
just as certain WOman, use the,
'oh, me and my kids are always sick' cover
(remember, sociopaths are "SICK", but also cunning),
to communicate between the 'respected' professionals,
and the scum dogs 'they' set on innocent people.

Just as Jason so proudly boasted 'a certain couple',
did and do with their kids (make them sick), before
then HAVING TO, SO VIOLENTLY GO TO 'THEIR' 'defence',
BY ATTACKING me and MY FRIENDS.

Funny though hey, how flat out Jason went,
on 'defending' such gutless scum in the fields of 'health'
(who need their 'respectability' in tact to cover his arse),
Just BEFORE the Thompson/Shovel Saga broke so big,
and proved what I'd warned of, all along, about that ilk.

Oh look, and yet more, Major, Main Stream News,
right on, the recent topics I've covered,
right at, those ICKE & Jason have gone flat out to
silence complaints about and 'defend',
right on time to justify my most recent warnings...

Judges out of touch, Victorians say


Geoff Wilkinson
ALMOST two-thirds of Victorians
believe judges are out of touch,
and barely half are confident
that they impose appropriate sentences.

76 comments on this story

• Poll: Should judges pay more attention to the public?
  
  
• Sentencing: Chief Justice Warren's full response
  
  
• Grieving mum: 'Justice system just laughs at me'
  
  
• Home invasion: Community work for knife terror
  
  
• Abused niece: Supended term for sex assault
  
  

...the warnings go both ways...the more YOU boast of
'escaping' JUSTICE, the MORE JUSTICE YOU WILL HAVE TO SUFFER.

And just for "tintin" code addicts:
Wilkinson=SWORD=HE COMES,
WITH A TWO EDGED SWORD.

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:

John Drake wrote:Why do this to yourself Tiswas?
You know i will now ask you for links to this racist stuff you say i
post and you know you cant provide because you made it up, its a lie
lol. It is interesting how you "friends" lie to eachother all the time.
Its also fun to catch you. So what about that pack of lies Billy told you in this thread? What about him downloading, creating and sending child porn on the net? You dont seem to object to that.

As
for MT yup i took him on at IL and smashed his arse. Its easy to smash
people like him because they talk shit ........ or do you agree with
him?

ADL???? More lies to your mate lol. Go on billy show where i threatened you with the ADL. I
informed Handbag that you were using his forum to send child porn as i
informed the police. Just what any normal person would do.

Now what have you to say about lying to Tiswas?

umm...so why is Jason still out & about?

And would any decent
(or even indecent by not bloody stupid), person,
want to be know to Jason's 'mate'?

"Industry" connections?

Billy Ruben aka Jason wrote:yeah I'm a sick f#ck,
and any chance I get to bang my niece is time well spent.

true lilly wrote:And again, to any independent, thinking readers,
who may stumble in here:

Another reason "that mob" so violently, reacted,
to the now, Major National News, of how the scum,
get into the fields of 'health' to NETwork, to use,
manipulate & destroy people for personal advantage,
is because it isn't only Jason who uses the,
'I'm just a nutter', cover,
just as certain WOman, use the,
'oh, me and my kids are always sick' cover
(remember, sociopaths are "SICK", but also cunning),
to communicate between the 'respected' professionals,
and the scum dogs 'they' set on innocent people.

Just as Jason so proudly boasted 'a certain couple',
did and do with their kids (make them sick), before
then HAVING TO, SO VIOLENTLY GO TO 'THEIR' 'defence',
BY ATTACKING me and MY FRIENDS.

Funny though hey, how flat out Jason went,
on 'defending' such gutless scum in the fields of 'health'
(who need their 'respectability' in tact to cover his arse),
Just BEFORE the Thompson/Shovel Saga broke so big,
and proved what I'd warned of, all along, about that ilk.

Oh look, and yet more, Major, Main Stream News,
right on, the recent topics I've covered,
right at, those ICKE & Jason have gone flat out to
silence complaints about and 'defend',
right on time to justify my most recent warnings...

Judges out of touch, Victorians say


Geoff Wilkinson
ALMOST two-thirds of Victorians
believe judges are out of touch,
and barely half are confident
that they impose appropriate sentences.

76 comments on this story

• Poll: Should judges pay more attention to the public?
  
  
• Sentencing: Chief Justice Warren's full response
  
  
• Grieving mum: 'Justice system just laughs at me'
  
  
• Home invasion: Community work for knife terror
  
  
• Abused niece: Supended term for sex assault
  
  

...the warnings go both ways...the more YOU boast of
'escaping' JUSTICE, the MORE JUSTICE YOU WILL HAVE TO SUFFER.

And just for "tintin" code addicts:
Wilkinson=SWORD=HE COMES,
WITH A TWO EDGED SWORD.

• Yes 96.85% (3878 votes)
  
  
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true lilly wrote:...but I do thank you for desisting from your phone threats
for around a day now...

true lilly wrote:Hey, Jason, might this be you?

Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing Posted at 4:30 AM Today

"She was never charged." And so she should never be charged.
If a person (or persons) invate a home
(where they are unlawfully present),
it would be an insult to victims if THEY were charged.
Comment 6 of 28

'Sounds' like, you may know those who INVADED MY HOME
and BEAT ME TO NEAR DEATH.

You know, those parolees, known to police, but still out there.

'Sounds' like, you, pleading against 'a natural justice' you may fear.

You know, for all those death threats you've sent me since,
that included your desire that, I stop breathing.

But don't worry about it coming from me.
I don't even do that form of, 'natural justice',
let alone vengeance.

In fact, I'm known for having prevented others
from wanting to meet out Illegal 'justice' for me.

Remember, I'm the one who warns folk to,
get right with God, Before, His Final Judgement.


A WOMAN assaulted by a drug-addicted burglar
has challenged him to buy her dinner
and explain the benefit of his "lenient" sentence.

Jan Hibberd described a minimum 22-month sentence given to violent offender
Tony Ferraiolo in the County Court yesterday as pathetic and disappointing.

Ms Hibberd, a psychologist, sent Ferraiolo a message:
"I challenge you to come and see me when you're out of jail and tell me what you're doing with your life.

"Take me out to dinner and explain to me the benefit of the lenient sentence imposed on you."

Ms Hibberd told the Herald Sun: "My immediate reaction (to the sentence) is crime pays. What a laugh."
Should judges pay more attention to the views of Victorians on sentencing?
Tell us below
Yes: 92.65% (4238 votes)
No: 7.35% (336 votes)
Total votes: 4574

Judge Lisa Hannan yesterday sentenced Ferraiolo, 34, to 34 months' jail with a 22-month minimum for the aggravated burglary he committed with another man armed with a gun.

Read full story

Comments on this story

Kane of Portsea Posted at 12:43 AM Today
and melbourne is the most liveable city - what a load of rubbish. if the government ever listened to society it would put these criminals, petty or not, away for serious time and not let them out until they can behave like respectful citizens...build more jails if we have too - clean up our streets!
Comment 1 of 28

oh the life of a crim Posted at 12:50 AM Today
Its simple.
Do the crime do the time.
Do the crime dont do the time.
They will re offend.
its as plain as black and white.
Cannot be any simpler
Comment 2 of 28

geomac of Gippsland Posted at 1:01 AM Today
Strange case from what I can see. She stabbed theburglar ? The prosecution went for 4 years and got 34 months while defence went for suspended sentence . A toss up on the info at hand in the article.
Comment 3 of 28

Forgotten Australian Family Posted at 2:13 AM Today
This is hardly surprising, given the trade-off
between paedophile-sympathiser judges
and other members of Australia's elite
who choose not to move out of their comfort zones.
Comment 4 of 28

Yep Posted at 4:21 AM Today
We law abiding Victorians are not safe, and we cannot rely on lawful self defence to protect us either, if an offender dies whilst you are defending yourself in your own home on your own property, you will be charged with defensive homicide, and the government of Victoria will fund the prosecution and every other person who is involved with you the victim, but you the victim will lose your home and all that you have, as you have to fund your own defence, and then after all that you will still be left with a debt to legal aid Victoria.
Comment 5 of 28

Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing Posted at 4:30 AM Today
"She was never charged."
And so she should never be charged.
If a person (or persons) invate a home
(where they are unlawfully present),
it would be an insult to victims if THEY were charged.
Comment 6 of 28

Jack Posted at 6:11 AM Today
Judges are making the justice system look like a joke in this country. They are easy to be fooled.
Comment 7 of 28

Jimbob of Adelaide Posted at 6:30 AM Today
Or maybe dinner, then the movies? A bit of an odd statement from a psychologist.
Comment 8 of 28

Marjorie of Victoria Posted at 6:31 AM Today
And she bloody well shouldn't be charged, either. Good luck and best wishes to Ms Hibberd.
Comment 9 of 28

teddy of Victoria Posted at 6:35 AM Today
To many bleeding heart female Judges.
Comment 10 of 28

Real world Posted at 6:47 AM Today
Maybe it should be the judge you are inviting to dinner to explain WHY this person received such a lenient sentence. Until our judiciary live in the real world, we will continue to see
unreal sentencing.
Comment 11 of 28

David P Posted at 7:04 AM Today
Obviously there were mitigating circumstances - she stabbed the poor fellow who was TRESPASSING in HER house and was waving a gun around. Oh the trauma for the poor bloke being stabbed! Can he sue?? Some judges are a joke. Different story if it was their house
in the leafy suburbs.
Comment 12 of 28

Ron of sunny coast Posted at 7:07 AM Today
We need a new system of the appointing Magistrates and Judge,s .A election by the people who can judge them on there performance and sack them like the politician's and without life
long pensions
Comment 13 of 28

My Nation is Dying Posted at 7:20 AM Today
If the judges can't get it right there must be some arguement for a change in the sentenceing procedures, review board or a seperate entity that hands out sentences. Recent coments by judges both in handing out sentences and to the media shows they hold total
disdain and disregard for the concept of "community expectations"
Comment 14 of 28

ted thorne of melbourne Posted at 7:25 AM Today
Guess Jan is desperate for a date!
Comment 15 of 28

Psychology is a pseudoscience Posted at 7:27 AM Today
Unfortunately Jan Hibberd seems to exhibit very little emotional understanding for a psychologist. Not defending the actions of the criminal, but he is being punished. Hibberd could lose some of her anger by seeking psychological counseling to either forgive her attacker or move on.
Comment 16 of 28

boomer of Frankston Posted at 7:28 AM Today
Let us vote for judges and magistrates. It's the only way we will get a judiciary who reflect our wishes. They do work for us after all.
Comment 17 of 28

JohnHay of Gold Coast Posted at 7:47 AM Today
None of you soapbox preachers saw the case, and nor did I. The judge did. In order to judge you need to go through all the facts, and listen to all the detail. Otherwise you have a kangaroo court. Most of you clearly want a kangaroo court instead of what we currently have.
Comment 18 of 28

Michael Posted at 7:56 AM Today
I doubt, but hope, the judiciary will notice the number who have voted that they, the judges, are out of touch with community expectations. Every day we see examples of the judiciary
making sentencing decisions that seem to respect the criminal not the victim. We seem to have it wrong, perhaps a serious rethink by the judiciary is in order!
Comment 19 of 28

Farce Observer Posted at 7:56 AM Today
Justice should be seen to be done.
Comment 20 of 28

JLW of Somewhere out there Posted at 8:03 AM Today
Couldn't she just meet him to ask why he did what he did? Does it have to be over a meal? Someone needs to take a long, hard look at our sentencing system.
Comment 21 of 28

Take a deep breath Posted at 8:22 AM Today
Doesnt sound like much of a psychologist to me. if he comes around for dinner after hes released he will have spent 2 years in jail and she wants him to explain what hes been doing with his life and how a lenient sentence has helped him? And we all know what great institutions our correctional facilities are for rehabilitating people!!!This guy will serve 2 years so whats the difference if he does 4 or 6, he still gets out. People want governments to build more jails and lock more people up but I'd rather build more hospitals.
Comment 22 of 28

James of Lismore Posted at 8:27 AM Today
22 months is not a slap on the wrist.
The article makes the imputation that crime does pay.
So let's do the sums and see exactly how much it pays.
Perhaps this duo earned $1000 from their escapade?
and got 22 months (about 660 days)
1000 / 2 = 500 / 660 = .75c per day.
at 75 cents a day then i would say that, unequivocally, crime does not pay.
Comment 23 of 28

Justice i really do wonder of Melbourne Posted at 8:29 AM Today
Jan it would be better to invite the Judge and Lawyers to explain there actions to you and see what happens when the offender is released back into society
Comment 24 of 28

mark of perth Posted at 8:35 AM Today
Miss hibberd needs anger management counselling..
Comment 25 of 28

Ann of EAGLEMONT Posted at 8:36 AM Today
Lenient sentences for those found guilty of
crimes are an insult to every serving member of the Police Force.
Comment 26 of 28

Neil of Melbourne Posted at 8:36 AM Today
A big issue in sentencing is that for virtually all criminals the minimum sentence is the real sentence.
Comment 27 of 28

Robin H. of Locksley Posted at 8:46 AM Today
The truth is that soft sentences are being handed down because the judiciary only have a limited allocation of the insufficient jail places. Those convicted of violent crimes should be
sent to jail in Malaysia where we know they now have 800 vacancies.
Comment 28 of 28

Should judges pay more attention to the views of Victorians on sentencing?
Tell us below

Yes: 92.65% (4238 votes)
No: 7.35% (336 votes)
Total votes: 4574

No: 7.35% (336 votes)...umm...
NOT even the number of RE-OFFENDING Parolees,
let alone the number of legal eagles who make a 'good living',
RE-DEFENDING them.

P.S. I am not 'Forgotten Australian Family'.
I just found the comment by,
'Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing'
coming a little over 2 hours after it, 'interesting' enough,
to inspire this post.

I also find it 'interesting', that the
Live Time Hacking of the two computers in this house,
including my being, repeatedly "logged out" of here,
has continued since the small hours of yesterday morning.

My adult student son, on the other hand,
is finding it worse than annoying, that
the Hacking is interfering with his Philosophy Studies.

true lilly wrote:Remember, according to ICKE/TINTIN,
"it's all the jews fault", so we "must support their enemy",
TERRORIST ISLAM, if we don't want to be branded as,
"evil jews"...too late for me...they still can't find any religion
to fit what I post on, but didn't stop "Billy Ruben & tintin"
branding me a "jew" , for not wanting Australia to suffer
under SHARIA LAW.
Stop celebrating the trashing of values
Andrew Bolt
From:Herald Sun
August 27, 2011 12:00AM


Anna Bligh: Turning a blind eye to David Hicks.
The Courier-Mail

IT'S always a mistake to make heroes of villains, and chic out of sick, but it's never more so than now.

Never in my lifetime have we seemed more in danger of fracturing into tribes ethnic, religious and social.

Never have we more needed to have examples set and moral codes affirmed so people are inspired to join, not divide.

But still our intelligentsia plays as being transgressive, like children fooling with a loaded gun.

Some examples, from just this month.

The Craig Thomson affair, of course, is the most toxic. What destructive message does Labor send when it plays down the use of a union credit card to pay for prostitutes and rip off workers?

But also look at the salons of this country, where the privileged toy with what would destroy us.

As Australia lost another soldier, killed by the Taliban in Afghanistan,
the Queensland Premier's Literary Awards shortlisted the memoirs of
David Hicks, who trained with the Taliban.

Related Coverage

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Hicks shines in Bligh's literary universe The Australian, 3 days ago
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Hicks book listing 'sign of a democracy' The Australian, 4 days ago

The soldier wins an early grave. Hicks may win $15,000,
extracted from taxpayers by Premier Anna Bligh.

Be clear about Hicks. His book may gloss over his training with some of
the world's worst terrorists, including al-Qaida, but his letters home
at the time boast about his then friends.

In May 2001, for instance, he wrote: "By the way I have met Osama bin Laden 20 times now,
lovely brother, everything for the cause of Islam. The only reason the West calls him the most wanted Muslim is because he's got the money to take action."

So what did Bligh do, after learning that her prize could now go to Hicks?

She did ... nothing. "I think it's important that we not get in the way of that," she said, as if enunciating some moral principle, rather than amoral.

Such are the times. When Hicks in May was given the stage at the taxpayer-funded Sydney Writers' Festival to promote his book, he got a standing ovation.

When former prime minister John Howard went to the same taxpayer-funded festival to sell his own autobiography, he was booed and heckled as a "war criminal".

Another example.

Last October Howard was being interviewed on the ABC's Q&A program when a member of the audience flung his shoes at him, shouting "that is for the Iraqi dead".

This kind of attack threatens democracy.

Who wants to get involved in public debates if it means exposing themselves to this or worse?

Yet the ABC has now donated the sneakers for an auction to raise funds for the Red Cross, headed by former Labor minister Robert Tickner.

It's for a good cause, they cry. But would the ABC donate a protester's "ditch-the-witch" sign mocking Julia Gillard, and would the Red Cross proudly raffle it?

No, this is yet another endorsement of rudeness, even intimidation, and shame on those who trash our values.

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:Ballarat Police confirm my suspicions:True Lilly lied about car bombings

by Billy Ruben
RE: Foreign and Local Traitors of Australia.

Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive.

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?

conspiracy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

collusion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/collusion

Learn some basic English.

Before MORE of YOUR "mates" REALIZE YOU ARE OUTING THEM.

Actually, from only a quick scroll down this page,
I'd say someone wanted you to show your instability,
and readiness to put your own hurt pride, above the
security of your 'mates'.

'Sifting and sorting', does go on in all camps, you know,
or is that concept above your comprehension to?

true lilly wrote:"Shovels",
Floods of Migrants,
The Powerful inflicting Cruel Injustices
against the small and powerless,
a sifting and sorting,
BETRAYALS and
Big Heads Rolling...
and so much more, NOW 'in the news'...
my long term readers know, I've long warned
of all this and more, that has come to be...
yet, still, 'the Satanic they', would rather believe,
that I have 'heavy human sources', than accept,
THE SOURCE,
Who Warned us all From The Beginning,
and Keeps GETTING IT RIGHT, AGAINST ALL
'expert opinion'.

'No way she can turn this around'

Staff reporters and AAP
UPDATE 9.41am:
FORMER Labor power broker
Graham Richardson predicts Julia Gillard
will be done as PM before her term is up.
287 comments on this story
Poll: Is it time for Julia Gillard to resign?
Poll: Is it time for Julia Gillard to resign?


Taxpayers: Failed Malaysia deal to cost millions
Editorial: PM's credibility goes overboard
Phillip Hudson: All at sea without a paddle
Analysis: What the High Court ruling means

true lilly wrote:...but I do thank you for desisting from your phone threats
for around a day now...

true lilly wrote:Hey, Jason, might this be you?

Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing Posted at 4:30 AM Today

"She was never charged." And so she should never be charged.
If a person (or persons) invate a home
(where they are unlawfully present),
it would be an insult to victims if THEY were charged.
Comment 6 of 28

'Sounds' like, you may know those who INVADED MY HOME
and BEAT ME TO NEAR DEATH.

You know, those parolees, known to police, but still out there.

'Sounds' like, you, pleading against 'a natural justice' you may fear.

You know, for all those death threats you've sent me since,
that included your desire that, I stop breathing.

But don't worry about it coming from me.
I don't even do that form of, 'natural justice',
let alone vengeance.

In fact, I'm known for having prevented others
from wanting to meet out Illegal 'justice' for me.

Remember, I'm the one who warns folk to,
get right with God, Before, His Final Judgement.


A WOMAN assaulted by a drug-addicted burglar
has challenged him to buy her dinner
and explain the benefit of his "lenient" sentence.

Jan Hibberd described a minimum 22-month sentence given to violent offender
Tony Ferraiolo in the County Court yesterday as pathetic and disappointing.

Ms Hibberd, a psychologist, sent Ferraiolo a message:
"I challenge you to come and see me when you're out of jail and tell me what you're doing with your life.

"Take me out to dinner and explain to me the benefit of the lenient sentence imposed on you."

Ms Hibberd told the Herald Sun: "My immediate reaction (to the sentence) is crime pays. What a laugh."
Should judges pay more attention to the views of Victorians on sentencing?
Tell us below
Yes: 92.65% (4238 votes)
No: 7.35% (336 votes)
Total votes: 4574

Judge Lisa Hannan yesterday sentenced Ferraiolo, 34, to 34 months' jail with a 22-month minimum for the aggravated burglary he committed with another man armed with a gun.

Read full story
Comments on this story

Forgotten Australian Family Posted at 2:13 AM Today
This is hardly surprising, given the trade-off
between paedophile-sympathiser judges
and other members of Australia's elite
who choose not to move out of their comfort zones.
Comment 4 of 28

Yep Posted at 4:21 AM Today
We law abiding Victorians are not safe, and we cannot rely on lawful self defence to protect us either, if an offender dies whilst you are defending yourself in your own home on your own property, you will be charged with defensive homicide, and the government of Victoria will fund the prosecution and every other person who is involved with you the victim, but you the victim will lose your home and all that you have, as you have to fund your own defence, and then after all that you will still be left with a debt to legal aid Victoria.
Comment 5 of 28

Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing Posted at 4:30 AM Today
"She was never charged."
And so she should never be charged.
If a person (or persons) invate a home
(where they are unlawfully present),
it would be an insult to victims if THEY were charged.
Comment 6 of 28

Should judges pay more attention to the views of Victorians on sentencing?
Tell us below

Yes: 92.65% (4238 votes)
No: 7.35% (336 votes)
Total votes: 4574

No: 7.35% (336 votes)...umm...
NOT even the number of RE-OFFENDING Parolees,
let alone the number of legal eagles who make a 'good living',
RE-DEFENDING them.

P.S. I am not 'Forgotten Australian Family'.
I just found the comment by,
'Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing'
coming a little over 2 hours after it, 'interesting' enough,
to inspire this post.

I also find it 'interesting', that the
Live Time Hacking of the two computers in this house,
including my being, repeatedly "logged out" of here,
has continued since the small hours of yesterday morning.

My adult student son, on the other hand,
is finding it worse than annoying, that
the Hacking is interfering with his Philosophy Studies.

NO, I had to edit it BACK to legible, far more than 1 time

Struggling ... people cling to the wreckage of their boat
after it smashed against the Christmas Island coast.

A DISTRESS call giving out the co-ordinates of a
stricken boat carrying 105 Hazaras seeking asylum, who are now presumed
to have drowned, was received by Australian Customs and Border
Protection officials but the agency has never publicly revealed the
details.

Advice that the vessel was in distress and its position
in seas between Indonesia and Australia on October 3, 2009, was passed
by the agency to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which called
in the Indonesian search and rescue agency to take over the search.

But the boat has never been found and those on board have
not been heard from since, despite the Home Affairs Minister, Brendan
O'Connor, having later said that ''subsequent credible information''
showed the boat's difficulties had been resolved.

true lilly wrote:Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution

Samantha Maiden
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet
has canvassed the option of
abandoning the Malaysian solution
and a return to onshore processing.

Wow...
what a difference some hours make...
TICK, TICK, TICK...

true lilly wrote:Labor won't sink Malaysian solution

September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.

52 comments on this story
Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard

Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
From:Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011 12:00AM

Labor leaders Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard and Greg Combet. The Daily Telegraph

JULIA Gillard's Cabinet is divided over refugees and has canvassed
the option of abandoning the Malaysian solution and a return to onshore
processing.

But the Prime Minister is expected to prevail at a special meeting
of Cabinet tomorrow and stare down rebels in the ALP and Greens leader
Bob Brown.

Caucus tensions are rising as former PM Kevin Rudd continues to build his profile.

Mr Rudd's supporters have warned Labor colleagues that voters will "wipe
us off the planet" unless there is a change in leadership before the
next election.

A small group of backers in the ALP caucus is
urging colleagues to consider a back-to-the-future leadership ticket
before the next election with Defence Minister Stephen Smith also being
touted.

"The only way we are going to come out of this is to get Kevin back," a Labor MP said.

Related Coverage

• Comment: Rudd joins smile-high club again
  
  
• Canberra: Parliament staff complain of bullying
  

• Labor won't sink Malaysian solution Herald Sun, 10 hours ago
  
• Gillard seeks action as smugglers close in The Australian, 1 day ago
  
• Go offshore but where? The Australian, 2 days ago
  
• Ruddock rues the trashing of Nauru The Australian, 2 days ago
  
• Coalition's plan to solve refugee impasse The Australian, 2 days ago
  

The new laws follow the High Court's ruling that the Malaysian solution people-swap was unlawful.

Desperate to secure the support of Tony Abbott
for the reforms in Parliament, the Prime Minister will outline
a deal that will allow the Coalition to pursue Nauru as a future option
and reactivate Labor's preferred regional solution, including Malaysia.

Two senior ministers have told the Sunday Herald Sun that
the High Court ruling prompted Cabinet discussions over
whether the opportunity had arisen to dump offshore processing.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen even outlined the option in Cabinet,
but then explained why it was not an acceptable or effective method of
protecting the nation's borders.

Nauru was dismissed as an option because people smugglers knew
most asylum seekers ended up in Australia anyway and it was no longer
a deterrent.

The Gillard Government released costings yesterday suggesting the
Coalition's plan to reopen Nauru would cost $1 billion over four years.

"We know Nauru is not effective," Mr Bowen said.

"It's also a very expensive option."

There is still no guarantee the Coalition will support the new laws, a
prospect Labor has warned could result in up to 7000 asylum seekers
a year trying toreach Australia.

Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said he was not going to be lectured
by the Gillard Government about cost blowouts.

"The Coalition is willing to work with the Government if they wish to make
changes to the Act to put the issue of offshore processing beyond legal
doubt," he said. "But we've made no secret of our position on Malaysia."

According to senior ministers, long-standing concerns were
expressed in Cabinet over offshore processing.

The ALP platform clearly says
refugees should have their claims processed in Australia.

Sources said the discussions were respectful and part of a wide-ranging
conversation of all options, rather than a direct challenge to the PM's
authority.

Left faction convener Doug Cameron, who once complained
the ALP caucus had become political zombies too scared to speak their
minds, said the Malaysian solution was no solution at all.

"We should stick to the party platform," he said.

"That's onshore processing. It's the humane thing to do."

Northern Territory Senator Trish Crossin said:
"I don't think we should compromise on human rights as a first resort."

WA Labor MP Melissa Parke said she would argue strongly
against offshore processing.

ALP sources also suggested some Labor MPs may abstain from any vote.

They would face expulsion from the party
if they crossed the floor to vote with the Greens.
maidens@newsltd.com.au

true lilly wrote:...but I do thank you for desisting from your phone threats
for around a day now...

true lilly wrote:Hey, Jason, might this be you?

Co2 is 'Poison'? of Solution: Stop Breathing Posted at 4:30 AM Today

"She was never charged." And so she should never be charged.
If a person (or persons) invate a home
(where they are unlawfully present),
it would be an insult to victims if THEY were charged.
Comment 6 of 28

'Sounds' like, you may know those who INVADED MY HOME
and BEAT ME TO NEAR DEATH.

You know, those parolees, known to police, but still out there.

'Sounds' like, you, pleading against 'a natural justice' you may fear.

You know, for all those death threats you've sent me since,
that included your desire that, I stop breathing.

But don't worry about it coming from me.
I don't even do that form of, 'natural justice',
let alone vengeance.

In fact, I'm known for having prevented others
from wanting to meet out Illegal 'justice' for me.

Remember, I'm the one who warns folk to,
get right with God, Before, His Final Judgement.


A WOMAN assaulted by a drug-addicted burglar
has challenged him to buy her dinner
and explain the benefit of his "lenient" sentence.

true lilly wrote:Let's do a word-association test.
When I say
"billionaire's private island" and "$7900 a night",
what sort of picture comes to mind?

However wild your imagination,
I'd stake the personal fortunes of Richard Branson
and Brett Godfrey that your mental snapshots
look nothing like Makepeace Island.

Branson's private island
Makepeace Island,
Richard Branson's private island
in the Noosa River is now up for rent.

In July, the cashed-up cohorts
opened their heart-shaped island
on the Noosa River to the public.
With a minimum of eight people
or a maximum party of 22
the island and its 11-room retreat is yours for a night.
The cost includes staff, chef and everything you can eat; alcohol is extra.

Makepeace Island is one of Australia's
most expensive single-ticket accommodations.
Once called Pig Island, the 10-hectare patch of gum trees and mangroves
sits in the broad, estuarine waters of the Noosa River.

The island has been occupied by a reclusive old woman
named "Shotgun Hannah" Makepeace, coteries of hippies and an artist.
Now CAREFULLY Read the
'The NEWS Behind The NEWS' Thread,
of "tintin/CRUISE"
from (at least), last night, on,
To SEE HIM STACKING UP These
SAME CODE KEYS ...and, more:
UPDATING "their" NEXT PLOT!
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3092
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3093
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3094
And in a "dixie d" LINK at the last link:
"A non-specialist
would not have been able
to understand
all the data,

the Japanese
ministry of transport
was quoted as saying,
as much of it
was presented
in numerical form."

true lilly wrote:Obama pays tribute to Australia

10:35PM
Phillip Hudson,
BARACK Obama thanks Australia
for its steadfast and heartfelt support
on the 10th anniversary of the
September 11 terror attacks.

Full text:Obama's letter of thanks to Australia
September 11 anniversary:
Barack Obama writes letter of thanks
to Julia Gillard

Barack Obama
From: No Source
September 11, 2011
7:12PM


Barack Obama thanks Australia
for its enduring support on September 11
and the decade since. AFP

THE following text is a letter
from US President Barack Obama
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard
expressing America's appreciation
for Australia's support on September 11
and the decade since.

Dear Prime Minister,
As we approach the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks,
I want to take this opportunity to express our enduring appreciation
for the close partnership and support we have received from Australia
on that fateful day and in the decade since.

Australia's support on September 11, 2001, and in the days after was extraordinary.

Prime Minister Howard was in Washington on September 11,
preparing to address a Joint Session of Congress on the occasion of
the 50th anniversary of our security alliance.

While his address had to be postponed, his heartfelt words of support and sympathy
on that day, and in the days and weeks that followed, eloquently described the depth
of the United States-Australian partnership.

Australia's quick declaration that these attacks were an assault on the values
and freedoms shared by our two countries comforted us; your invocation of
Article IV of the ANZUS Treaty strengthened our resolve to prevail over this menace.

Americans were moved by the expressions of sympathy from so many Australians citizens, and we shared your grief at the loss of 11 Australians in the September 11 attacks.

In the decade since the attacks, we have had no more steadfast partner than Australia
in our effort to defeat terrorists in Afghanistan, in Bali, in the Middle East, and in
Southeast Asia.

Australia's robust cooperation in these efforts has made a tremendous contribution
to achieving the alliance goals we share, and has won the lasting affection and
gratitude of Americans.

As the United States and Australia stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can to work with you to deepen that partnership, to ensure the security of our nations and our citizens, not
and in the future.

Related Coverage
Freedom = vigilance Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Obama pays tribute to Australia Herald Sun, 11 minutes ago
Obama: US not waiver in terror fight The Daily Telegraph, 20 minutes ago
Dark day transformed two nations The Australian, 1 day ago
Access anxiety The Australian, 4 day ago

When I saw,
"From: No Source"
(besides the 'need' to 'twice add',
Julia Gillard's name, when it was not there),
I could tell there was going to be something,
in, This, Very Important, Very Official, HISTORIC
Letter, that no one dare put their name to.

Like that LAST LINE "typo", of "Valley Girl Speak",
"I assure you...NOT!...and in the future. ..."

As the United States and Australia
stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can
to work with you to deepen that partnership,
to ensure the security of our nations
and our citizens, not
and in the future.

And as anyone who's studied
"tintin's" CODE SPEAK knows, CHANGING JUST ONE,
little letter, MAKES A WHOLE MESS of Difference.
What IS, becomes, what IS BEING SAID.

Also, why did the AFP
(Agence France-Presse, a news agency),
CROP OUT, "SEAL of" and "STATES",
and put it's name to the deed?


But Google, "afp" or "AFP" (*See below.),
and though I'm searching from Australia and
other country's may get different results,
it's all that's offered, in the order it's offered,
that also, 'says' a lot, though as usual, I've
had to remove the code that makes the cached
likes, 'live', and some other code that 'insists on'
showing here, and makes what Google shows,
virtually illegible.

And yes, there is much more besides, 'said' in this strangely presented,
strangely worded, MAJOR, LEADING REPORT, in Murdoch's HERALD SUN,
that it's not right to try to explain it all to the willingly deceived, and
'those who know', already know.
_________________________________
*

1. AFP Homepage - Australian Federal Police
   www.afp.gov.au/ - Cached
   The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is a progressive and multi-faceted law enforcement organisation taking a strong lead in the fight against 21st century crime.
   
   

   National Police Checks www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks/nati... The Australian Federal Police ... Current vacancies www.afp.gov.au/.../current-vacancies... A career with the AFP can take ... Jobs@AFP www.afp.gov.au/jobs.aspx A career with the AFP can take ...	Contact www.afp.gov.au/contact.aspx Emergency contact, Request ... Police/Criminal history checks www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks.asp... We provide assistance under the ... Media centre www.afp.gov.au/media-centre.aspx Multimedia and news items, The ...

   ►
   
2. RACGP | AFP Home
   www.racgp.org.au/afp - Cached
   2009
   6 days ago – Australian Family Physician is the official journal of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners.
   
3. AFP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFP - Cached
   AFP. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search. Look up AFP in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. AFP may refer to: Contents. 1 Media; 2 ...
   
4. Apple Filing Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol - Cached
   The Apple Filing Protocol(AFP) is a network protocol that offers file ...
   
5. Agence France-Presse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse - Cached
   Agence France-Presse (AFP) is a French news agency, the oldest one in the ...
   
   Show more results from wikipedia.org
   
6. AFP.com - International News, Photos, Videos, Graphics, World
   www.afp.com/afpcom/en/ - Cached
   STOCKHOLM (AFP)
   - Swedish police in the southwestern city of Gothenburg have arrested
   four people suspected of preparing a terror attack, Swedish media ...
   
7. AFP
   news.smh.com.au/action/displayCopyrightNotice?...AFP - Cached
   AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or ... AFP news material may not be stored in whole or in part in any electronic ...
   
8. Australian Federal Police Association
   www.afpa.org.au/ - Cached
   2 Sep 2011 – The Australian Federal Police Association represents the professional, industrial and social interests of all employees of the Australian Federal ...
   
9. AFP embracing Gov 2.0 - social media, Australian Federal Police ...
   www.computerworld.com.au/article/399680/afp_embracing_gov_2_0/
   6 days ago – National crime fighting agency, the Australian Federal Police, is discovering openness and transparency and policing aren't mutually exclusive.
   
10. Absolute Fitness Professionals
    www.afp.com.au/ - Cached
    Absolute Fitness Professionals. About Us; Services. Biosignature Modulation · Exercise Physiology · Personal Training · Sports Conditioning · Rehabilitation ...
    

Searches related to AFP
afp photos
afp wiki
afp police check
afp form
afp press
afp jobs
afp media
afp clearance

And now, in this HERALD SUN Update,
doesn't THE IMAGE CHOSEN to go "with" THE WORDS CHOSEN,
combine to "TELL A DIFFERENT STORY"...

...seems Mrs. Obama is doing all she can, to stop herself from,
OPENLY CACKLING! Showing a face not unlike, THE IMAGE CHOSEN
to go with the Update below it, on Julia Gillard's position...
Gillard faces week of tough tests

Phillip Hudson
PM in crucial week as she moves
to revive the Malaysian solution,
introduce carbon tax legislation
and stare down leadership talk.
(JUST NOW CHANGED TO:
JULIA Gillard set to try and revive
the Malaysian solution, introduce
carbon tax legislation and battle
more negative poll results.)
1 comment on this story

Hunger strike: Desperate kids plead for freedom

true lilly wrote:Well, someone didn't like that last post...yet another
major hack attack, of denying internet service to all 3 computers running
in this house, while, VIA THE INTERNET, THAT WAS CONNECTED AND RUNNING,
all 3 computers were being 'run through'. The timing worked for me though...and
showed those who need to know, what they need to know...those that are trusted,
are not to be trusted. And yet again, I was proven to know, when I needed to know,
what I couldn't know, without trusting the revealing truth of God's Word.

tintin wrote:Israel, Hamlet and Tanzania. III
Quote:

Originally Posted by cori Okay, look at this Tintin: Winehouse, btw., also links to Winnenden Win Win Win Win Win..... but here is Tom Cruise: Tom Cruise 4th of july = 2+2 july Married to I am somewhat sure, that Holmes is originally a name from Norway. it pops up as british name allover the place, but that can't be. here is the interesting Wiki explaination A small island.... (Holm) UTOYA ... perfect match, probably the most typical 'small island' there is the amok island has the shape of a HEART!! Lena... Set Alight... Telenor Arena /Terror Oslo "I heart you" about 90 teenagers shot on the little heart island The whole thing is unreal, almost absurd.

The ISLAND has the shape of a HEART.
Running scared
RUNNING SCARED wins the HEART song contest
and they were RUNNING SCARED on the HEART Island.


That's ... reversed.
(31 and 13, the BLOODLINE link)

dixie d wrote: 11-09-2011, 12:57 PM #30943
I noticed this article in the News...

UK poppy-growing program kept hush-hush

I just wondered if there might be a link to Hush Puppies

Quote:

Hush Puppies is an international brand of contemporary, casual footwear for men, women and children. The shoes have been described as "the classic American brushed-suede shoes with the lightweight crepe sole".[1] A division of Wolverine Worldwide, Hush Puppies is headquartered in Rockford, Michigan.

Wolverine Wroldwide

Quote:

In addition, the Hush Puppies name is licensed for non-footwear fashion categories, including clothing, eyewear and plush toys.

Plush Toys

Quote:

In 1903 Richard Steiff designed a soft bear that differed from earlier traditional rag dolls because it was made of plush furlike fabric.[1] At the same time in the USA, Morris Michtom created the first teddy bear, after being inspired by a drawing of Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt with a bear cub.[2] The character Peter Rabbit from English author Beatrix Potter was the first stuffed toy to be patented, in 1903.

Teddy Bear
Last edited by dixie d; 11-09-2011 at 01:04 PM.

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true lilly wrote:
"A non-specialist
would not have been able
to understand
all the data,
the Japanese
ministry of transport
was quoted as saying,
as much of it
was presented
in numerical form."

true lilly wrote:Obama pays tribute to Australia

10:35PM
Phillip Hudson,
BARACK Obama thanks Australia
for its steadfast and heartfelt support
on the 10th anniversary of the
September 11 terror attacks.

Full text:Obama's letter of thanks to Australia
September 11 anniversary:
Barack Obama writes letter of thanks
to Julia Gillard

Barack Obama
From: No Source
September 11, 2011
7:12PM

Barack Obama thanks Australia
for its enduring support on September 11
and the decade since. AFP

THE following text is a letter
from US President Barack Obama
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard
expressing America's appreciation
for Australia's support on September 11
and the decade since.

Dear Prime Minister,
As we approach the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks,
I want to take this opportunity to express our enduring appreciation
for the close partnership and support we have received from Australia
on that fateful day and in the decade since.

Australia's support on September 11, 2001, and in the days after was extraordinary.

Prime Minister Howard was in Washington on September 11,
preparing to address a Joint Session of Congress on the occasion of
the 50th anniversary of our security alliance.

While his address had to be postponed, his heartfelt words of support and sympathy
on that day, and in the days and weeks that followed, eloquently described the depth
of the United States-Australian partnership.

Australia's quick declaration that these attacks were an assault on the values
and freedoms shared by our two countries comforted us; your invocation of
Article IV of the ANZUS Treaty strengthened our resolve to prevail over this menace.

Americans were moved by the expressions of sympathy from so many Australians citizens, and we shared your grief at the loss of 11 Australians in the September 11 attacks.

In the decade since the attacks, we have had no more steadfast partner than Australia
in our effort to defeat terrorists in Afghanistan, in Bali, in the Middle East, and in
Southeast Asia.

Australia's robust cooperation in these efforts has made a tremendous contribution
to achieving the alliance goals we share, and has won the lasting affection and
gratitude of Americans.

As the United States and Australia stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can to work with you to deepen that partnership, to ensure the security of our nations and our citizens, not
and in the future.

Related Coverage
Freedom = vigilance Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Obama pays tribute to Australia Herald Sun, 11 minutes ago
Obama: US not waiver in terror fight The Daily Telegraph, 20 minutes ago
Dark day transformed two nations The Australian, 1 day ago
Access anxiety The Australian, 4 day ago

When I saw,
"From: No Source"
(besides the 'need' to 'twice add',
Julia Gillard's name, when it was not there),
I could tell there was going to be something,
in, This, Very Important, Very Official, HISTORIC
Letter, that no one dare put their name to.

Like that LAST LINE "typo", of "Valley Girl Speak",
"I assure you...NOT!...and in the future. ..."

As the United States and Australia
stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can
to work with you to deepen that partnership,
to ensure the security of our nations
and our citizens, not
and in the future.

And as anyone who's studied
"tintin's" CODE SPEAK knows, CHANGING JUST ONE,
little letter, MAKES A WHOLE MESS of Difference.
What IS, becomes, what IS BEING SAID.

Also, why did the AFP
(Agence France-Presse, a news agency),
CROP OUT, "SEAL of" and "STATES",
and put it's name to the deed?


But Google, "afp" or "AFP" (*See below.),
and though I'm searching from Australia and
other country's may get different results,
it's all that's offered, in the order it's offered,
that also, 'says' a lot, though as usual, I've
had to remove the code that makes the cached
likes, 'live', and some other code that 'insists on'
showing here, and makes what Google shows,
virtually illegible.

And yes, there is much more besides, 'said' in this strangely presented,
strangely worded, MAJOR, LEADING REPORT, in Murdoch's HERALD SUN,
that it's not right to try to explain it all to the willingly deceived, and
'those who know', already know.
_________________________________
*

1. AFP Homepage - Australian Federal Police
   www.afp.gov.au/ - Cached
   The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is a progressive and multi-faceted law enforcement organisation taking a strong lead in the fight against 21st century crime.
   
   

   National Police Checks www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks/nati... The Australian Federal Police ... Current vacancies www.afp.gov.au/.../current-vacancies... A career with the AFP can take ... Jobs@AFP www.afp.gov.au/jobs.aspx A career with the AFP can take ...	Contact www.afp.gov.au/contact.aspx Emergency contact, Request ... Police/Criminal history checks www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks.asp... We provide assistance under the ... Media centre www.afp.gov.au/media-centre.aspx Multimedia and news items, The ...

   ►
   
2. RACGP | AFP Home
   www.racgp.org.au/afp - Cached
   2009
   6 days ago – Australian Family Physician is the official journal of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners.
   
3. AFP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFP - Cached
   AFP. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search. Look up AFP in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. AFP may refer to: Contents. 1 Media; 2 ...
   
4. Apple Filing Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol - Cached
   The Apple Filing Protocol(AFP) is a network protocol that offers file ...
   
5. Agence France-Presse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse - Cached
   Agence France-Presse (AFP) is a French news agency, the oldest one in the ...
   
   Show more results from wikipedia.org
   
6. AFP.com - International News, Photos, Videos, Graphics, World
   www.afp.com/afpcom/en/ - Cached
   STOCKHOLM (AFP)
   - Swedish police in the southwestern city of Gothenburg have arrested
   four people suspected of preparing a terror attack, Swedish media ...
   
7. AFP
   news.smh.com.au/action/displayCopyrightNotice?...AFP - Cached
   AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or ... AFP news material may not be stored in whole or in part in any electronic ...
   
8. Australian Federal Police Association
   www.afpa.org.au/ - Cached
   2 Sep 2011 – The Australian Federal Police Association represents the professional, industrial and social interests of all employees of the Australian Federal ...
   
9. AFP embracing Gov 2.0 - social media, Australian Federal Police ...
   www.computerworld.com.au/article/399680/afp_embracing_gov_2_0/
   6 days ago – National crime fighting agency, the Australian Federal Police, is discovering openness and transparency and policing aren't mutually exclusive.
   
10. Absolute Fitness Professionals
    www.afp.com.au/ - Cached
    Absolute Fitness Professionals. About Us; Services. Biosignature Modulation · Exercise Physiology · Personal Training · Sports Conditioning · Rehabilitation ...
    

Searches related to AFP
afp photos
afp wiki
afp police check
afp form
afp press
afp jobs
afp media
afp clearance

And now, in this HERALD SUN Update,
doesn't THE IMAGE CHOSEN to go "with" THE WORDS CHOSEN,
combine to "TELL A DIFFERENT STORY"...

...seems Mrs. Obama is doing all she can, to stop herself from,
OPENLY CACKLING! Showing a face not unlike, THE IMAGE CHOSEN
to go with the Update below it, on Julia Gillard's position...
Gillard faces week of tough tests

Phillip Hudson
PM in crucial week as she moves
to revive the Malaysian solution,
introduce carbon tax legislation
and stare down leadership talk.
(JUST NOW CHANGED TO:
JULIA Gillard set to try and revive
the Malaysian solution, introduce
carbon tax legislation and battle
more negative poll results.)
1 comment on this story

Hunger strike: Desperate kids plead for freedom

true lilly wrote:Well,
someone didn't like that last post...yet another
major hack attack, of denying internet service
to all 3 computers running in this house,
while, VIA THE INTERNET,
THAT WAS CONNECTED AND RUNNING,
all 3 computers were being 'run through'.
The timing worked for me though...and
showed those who need to know, what they need to know...those that are trusted,
are not to be trusted.And yet again, I was proven to know, when I needed to know,
what I couldn't know, without trusting the revealing truth of God's Word.

true lilly wrote:
Police strike force to probe health union

7:28PM
Malcolm Farr
NEW South Wales Police will investigate
"inappropriate practices" by the heath union
formerly run by Labor MP Craig Thomson.

Police will investigate
"inappropriate practices"
in the Health Services Union
Malcolm Farr
From: news.com.auSeptember 12, 2011 7:28PM


Craig Thomson in Question Time in the House of Representatives chamber,
Parliament House in Canberra. Picture: Kym Smith The Daily Telegraph

NSW Police today established a strike force
to investigate ''inappropriate practices''
in the Health Services Union.

The HSU has been central to allegations that former senior officials,
including Labor MP Craig Thomson, misused union credit cards.
Mr Thomson has denied breaking the law.

But police announced that
Strike Force Carnarvon was created
after senior police received additional information
from union members this morning.

The investigating officers include senior members of the
State Crime Command's Fraud and Cyber Crime Squad.

"The NSW Police Force has established a Strike Force to investigate
allegations of inappropriate practices within the Health Services Union,"
said a statement.

There was no mention of Mr Thomson
or any other former or past official of the HSU.

Related Coverage

Strike force launched against union Adelaide Now, 2 hours ago
NSW Police to probe Thomson's union Courier Mail, 3 hours ago
Brandis back for second bite at Thomson The Australian, 3 days ago
Labor call to end Thomson 'mudslinging' The Australian, 4 days ago
NSW fraud squad drops Thomson probe The Australian, 4 days ago

The police had previously declined to investigate claims involving
the Labor MP for Dobell, who has been accused of using a union credit
card to hire prostitutes.

Liberal justice spokesman George Brandis sent police a 120-page dossier,
but they were not swayed by it after an assessment.

But it seems this morning's information
from the HSU sparked immediate action.

Senator Brandis said he had written a second time to
Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione, following news reports last Friday
that Mr Thomson and another senior union official were linked to
further claims of credit card use.

He requested the report be assessed "and, if appropriate, direct his officers
to make an investigation of those new allegations".

"As I have said from the beginning, we will respectfully await the outcome
of the NSW Police Investigation," Senator Brandis said in a statement.

"The decision to take the matter a stage further is a welcome development.
"I also look forward with interest to the promised detailed statement of Mr Thomson."

'Management', includes those In Charge of Admissions.

You know, those with The Power to Decide, who DOES
and who DOESN'T "qualify" for things like X-Rays of
Twice, Severely Battered Heads and Broken bones,
(let alone treatment of such crippling injuries), and who
Have The Power TO OPENLY STEAL FROM ONES HANDBAG,
THE ANTIBIOTICS PUT THERE BY THE TREATING DOCTOR,
AFTER HE PERSONALLY ADMINISTERED The First Dose
(usually the nurses job), BECAUSE HE KNEW "THEY"
(the 'Management' Nurse), WERE COUNTERMANDING
HIS, THE DOCTORS ORDERS.

In that case, another prescription for those antibiotics,
arrived in the mail, with no note, cover letter or mention
of the source, some days later, when the pleurisy CAUSED
by the damage of a 20 minute Gang Bashing, had almost
become pneumonia.

And that one Management Nurse, 'just happens' to be
friends with those who, twice, beat me into hospital...
go figure...

true lilly wrote:

ninny wrote:hi,

i only chose one of the english translations i found (randomly).
there are plenty of translations, so dont mind me, maybe posting a "wrong one".
but i think im out of the "news behind the news" bs. doesnt feel good, that you are monitoring people.
what's your fear?

and hello

... ...it's NOT me who HIDES,
SNEAKS, SPIES and BANS COUNTER ARGUMENTS.

I read what is posted ON A PUBLIC FORUM,
BY A MAN who STAYED IN MY HOUSE for 3 Weeks,
and His Team of Foreign And LOCAL THUGS,
who HAVE MADE ATTEMPTS at ENDING MY LIFE.

Then I PUBLICLY posy my COUNTER ARGUMENTS
to their B.S. on another, This ONE, PUBLIC Forum
that "THEY" DO MONITOR, BUT FEAR even trying
to debate, 'toe to toe'.

Anyway, I was GLAD to see YOU TURN to 'The Bible'
when 'cori' did it's regular,
"I HATE MAN BUT LOVE ANTICHRISTS", Cackling,
and only added the links to the Greek Dictionary
of The Full, Descriptive (and so, much deeper),
MEANINGS to Each of The Words it contains.

I was very tired at the time, so didn't give my reply
the full explanation YOU DID DESERVE, SORRY,
and have to go out and get tired again soon, so
I will get back to this later, God Willing.

But will add, that I've been very tired due to
server headaches from the bashings I was REFUSED
treatment for (by 'their' 'mates' who abuse their
positions in the 'Health Industry), and more digestive
problems I've suffered since a polyp was removed
(after 15 years of bleeding), but that 'somehow',
"ESCAPED" from it's screw top specimen jar before it
reached the lab for a biopsy...so "I" still don't know
what it was. 'Interestingly' though, that I was bumped
to the "Urgent" list by my new doctor, simply on reading
my old files (on suspicion of the likelihood of cancer),
BUT, now have to wait another 3 YEARS for tests,
BECAUSE "THEY" "LOST" THAT POLYP.

But still, I carry on, ENJOYING LIFE, Counting small
and BIG Blessings; like STILL BEING ALIVE

true lilly wrote:And, among Jason - - - -'s, aka 'Billy Ruben' current threats,
is also his associating himself as a defender of PM Gillard and Labor.

While also claiming; well, read on, and decide for yourselves,
whether you think our current government and the Labor Party
would want to be known to approve of the tactics used to try to
prevent me from sharing my understanding of The Christian Bible.

Particularly in our current political climate of being unable to
stem the floods of people from Islamic Nations demanding, to
be allowed to enter and settle, as Government Supported residents,
of Australia.

Ballarat Police confirm my suspicions:True Lilly lied about car bombings
by Billy Ruben
RE: Which Members did NOT?
Just asking, because I'm sure with such cases (see below),
being before the courts, and currently being reported in
the main stream news, many Officers, and especially those
committed to trial and any who many be called to their defence,
would like to be cleared of having had any hand in, effectively,
supporting your continued threats against me,
as in your, written claims that:

"i will kill u [you] dog."
and
"the way i [I] set it up,
cops won't help u [you]."

Cop offered sex proposal, Ballarat court hears
BY EVAN SCHUURMAN
01 Sep, 2011 06:48 PM

A POLICE officer allegedly tried to kiss a female victim-of-crime
following her frightened call to 000 over a domestic dispute, a court
has heard.The second complainant in the committal hearing of former
police prosecutor Shaun Perry gave evidence yesterday, where she also
alleged that in a separate incident a senior police officer had
propositioned her with sex in exchange for him to “look after” her
ex-partner, who was the man involved in the domestic dispute.
The officer wasn’t named in court.

Shaun Perry, 42, fronted Ballarat Magistrates Court yesterday for the third
day running, where he stands charged with two counts of wilful
misconduct, and single counts of attempting to pervert the course of
justice and unlawful assault.

The
second complainant, a middle-aged woman from the Ballarat area, spent
more than an hour in the witness stand where she was cross-examined by
Perry’s defence.

She told the court she was forced to call 000 one night in November 2009
after a domestic dispute occurred at her house.

She claimed that a male police officer came to her home at some stage the
following day after calling her from a nearby phone box.

She alleged that at one point the officer put his hands on her hips, and
later leant forward and she was “pretty sure” he was going to kiss her.

When her ex-partner came out from hiding, the officer ran away, she said.

The woman told the court she had also informed the officer about a separate
alleged incident at the Ballarat Police Station where a senior police officer had
said that if she provided sex, he would “look after” her ex-partner.

The woman’s ex-partner also gave evidence, saying he saw the complainant
and a male hugging on the day in question.

“But from what I saw she wasn’t up for it,” he said.

Three police officers have so far given evidence in a hearing which is set to run into
a fourth day, with the informant expected to take to the witness stand this morning.

On Tuesday and Wednesday this week, a separate complainant gave evidence
alleging she had sex with Perry on numerous occasions in early 2009
while she was facing her own criminal charges.

She claimed that hours after Perry interviewed her at the police station —
on January 16, 2009, the day they were said to have first met —
he went to her house and about 10 minutes after arriving they had sex.

Magistrate Peter Couzens is presiding over the case.

More evidence comes forward in Perry case: Ballarat court
BY EVAN SCHUURMAN
01 Sep, 2011 01:58 PM

A SECOND complainant has given evidence in the committal hearing of
former Ballarat police officer Shaun Perry.

The woman is the alleged victim in three of the four charges facing Perry,
including one count of wilful misconduct in which Perry is said to have
contacted her — a victim of crime — in an attempt to initiate a personal
relationship.

The woman briefly took to the witness stand late this morning in
the Ballarat Magistrates Court, and will continue giving evidence this afternoon.

In total, 42-year-old Perry is charged with two counts of wilful misconduct
and single counts of attempting to pervert the course of justice and unlawful assault.

So far nine witnesses have given evidence, including three Ballarat police officers.

The first complainant who gave evidence on Tuesday and Wednesday this week
claimed that hours after Perry first interviewed her at the police station on the day
they were said to have met — January 16, 2009 — he went to her house and about
10 minutes after arriving they had sex.

The hearing before magistrate Peter Couzens is scheduled to finish this afternoon,
but could go into a fourth day if required.

31 Aug 11:
Committal hearing continues for former Ballarat cop

31 Aug 11:
Cop 'asked for sex'

But, still,
Jason - - - -, aka 'Billy Ruben'
continues his threats,
with this 'oxymoronic' text,
replying to my post that,
he had stopped sending me threats:

"Thanks 4 the
compliment about
not texting,i just did
it a smarter way .u
just did'nt pick it
up,hehehe.pure evil"