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Post  true lilly Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:46 am

22,000+++ Views for true lilly...so how many
AREN'T Traitorous Agents...still missing THE POINT?

Well I can't help but wonder...wherever I post,
the Numbers Soar...but only a very few DARE to
Talk WITH me...while the Full Time Agents who
'man' (BOT) Forums, go crazy
at me for bringing
them readers and members, with What NO ONE ELSE
DARE to FREELY SHARE...THE VERY BEST NEWS... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 832261


...Seriously, what is so frightening about HAVING
The Free Will Choice to LIVE FOREVER, RE-PLANTING,
RE-BUILDING, HEALING and ACTUALLY CREATING?


Too Proud to say, 'Sorry God'?
Too Selfish to spread The Good Oil?

And, how many of the nearly 18 MILLION views
of "tintin's" thread at D.I.F HAVE NOTICED that
after 6 years of my showing folk that GOD EXISTS
and GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES, that 'they',
my LITERAL and Verbal ATTACKERS have NEVER
provided a Counter Argument, and while "team tintin"
keep 'making predictions' that DON'T HAPPEN,

what I and others like palomino have shown
GOD SAID To WATCH FOR, KEEP HAPPENING,
Against All The Experts and Guru's 'predictions'?

And, Do 'you' Know Who They Are...maybe some,
But, GOD ALSO SAID HE WOULD Raise And HIDE
HIS OWN, to Do the re-planting, re-building, and
CREATING.
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Post  beetzart77 Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:51 am

What does that all mean? I'm fucking stumpted lol! You have ruined a good forum for people who are coming to terms with their anger for Icke, and all those years they thought he meant something, until realising all he spoke was utter shite.

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Post  true lilly Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:57 am

beetzart77 wrote:What does that all mean? I'm fucking stumpted lol! You have ruined a good forum for people who are coming to terms with their anger for Icke, and all those years they thought he meant something, until realising all he spoke was utter shite.
umm, plenty of threads here by others who attack me for showing that Icke is only one figurehead of 'team tintin'. Nothing stopping folk reading them, other than their total lack of anything worth reading.

beetzart77 wrote:Haha, I wished I worked for a pharm company, think of the salary and pension!

Nah, but then, I'm old enough to Think about,
THE RETIREMENT PLAN...That WON'T FAIL...

...oh, and which of The Religions do you think,
would Love this Warning Against The Religions Song
as much as I do...


https://youtu.be/kwgHwoimNWY
"How can you be a Christian
How can you be a Jew
How can you be a Moslem, a Buddhist
or Hindu, How Can You...
"


beetzart77 wrote:Why are you quoting religious bollocks?

WATCH And LISTEN and figure it out,
if you CARE to...there are those who
'watch' my threads, I still care to let
Know, it's not to late to Stop killing
themselves, Twice and Forever.


Oh, and most, sadly would Not See
these, uber violent movies as
'Religious', or bollocks, forgetting
that God Promised to Call Out to people
in 'The Languages' they understand...
and still, most would Refuse to Hear...


https://youtu.be/TDMAsHIjNuU

https://youtu.be/nd_mI08B5k0

https://youtu.be/ckuYqekEUfE

https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E

Oh and, how many of 'the 144,000'
do you think may have been among
the nearly 18 MILLION views
of "tintin's" thread...and SEEN,
The Difference between his Scrabbled
Threads of Immanent Death & Doom
,
and my Consistently, Best News Ever?


FREEDOM CALLING, Folks...
https://youtu.be/qT7NBUdqUUo
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Post  true lilly Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:44 pm

dixie d wrote:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyint
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http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....9&postcount=64


Tinyint,

Without sounding rude, I notice your user name has the words Tintin in it, I just wondered if you where related.

Also I notice on the Meerkat Wiki page the following...

Quote:

A group of meerkats is called a "mob", "gang" or "clan".
Also the word Meerkat. Meer Kat could be seen as Meer Cat. Meer to me could mean mean Ellesmere Port, or Raby Mere, Raby reminds me of Rabies and Mad Dog, we have a pub here in Chiang Mai called the Mad Dog.

I also know where there is a Mad Dog not far from where I live.

I wouldn't want you to take it the wrong way, it's just the way all these things seem connected.
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Funny, my son and I were just recently sharing our dislike
of
the show, "MEERKAT MANOR", for the RELIGIOUS Propaganda
of "naturalists", that it "Bewitched" Millions with - clearly selling
the idea that, "Dog Eat Dog and Have No Compassion, is 'natural'"
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Post  true lilly Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:21 am

...and "CORI'S", 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Image
GUTLESS, SLY, BACK DOOR,
'response', at the site I'm banned from,
RATHER THAN TOE to TOE HERE...


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2907

YES, AS USUAL,
When "CORI" 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Image
Has NOWHERE TO HIDE,
"CORI" GETS OFF ON=THREATENS MORE,
CHILD DEATHS!


Oh for the newbies or forgetful, it was when
I'd Had Enough, and TOLD "CORI" to STOP
THREATENING PARENTS with "DEMONS"
"TAKING THEIR CHILDREN", that
"TINTIN" PUBLICLY Joined "CORI"
in ATTACKING Me.

___________________________

LEONARD COHAN
The Future

(Official Music Video)

https://youtu.be/D97OxHZzBeQ

(well, The CURRENT For
The TINTIN/CORI'S...
and then, The Future
withOUT "THEM")


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2907

YES, AS USUAL,
When "CORI" 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Image
Has NOWHERE TO HIDE,
"CORI" GETS OFF ON=THREATENS MORE,
CHILD DEATHS!


true lilly wrote:22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Staghoundpig
Dogs Name: Chief aka WarchiefAge: 4 years old
Breed: StaghoundSex: Male
Height: 29inches to the shoulderWeight: Approx 33kgs in working condition
Hunting style:All rounder, chief works all game from rabbits all the way up. He only
recently has been getting into the pigs but has switched on to this very
fast, after a few hours hunting is now wind scenting them. His
bloodline has been used on pigs quite a bit by guys here in WA and goes
back decades.

Submittd by Staghound.
Pigdog Facts and Myths

MYTH - Pigdogs are used to kill pigs.

This is not only untrue it is totally unacceptable behavior for a
pigdog. Pigdogs are used to locate and hold a pig in place for the
hunter to dispatch it, regardless if a bailing or holding dog. All due
care must be taken to minimize the chance of suffering to a captured
animal. A correctly trained holding dog will hold the pig by the ear or
cheek causing little if any damage to the captured boar.


MYTH – Pigdogs kill native wildlife and stock.

A correctly trained pigdog will ignore all other game when hunting in
the field. No hunting dog should be taken into the field until they are
both Stock and Native Wildlife proof. No hunter wants this type of
behavior in their pigdogs as you would quickly become unwelcome both in
the hunting community and by Landowners.


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MYTH – Pigdogs are human and dog aggressive.

This behavior is both totally unacceptable in the hunting community and
society in general. Any pigdog that shows excessive aggression to
humans, other dogs or any other animal is immediately removed from a
hunting pack. This dog will not be reintroduced back into the pack
unless this behavior can be corrected and is removed from
any breeding program. It is however totally acceptable for your dog to
bark when visitors arrive or something startles them, especially at
night, this is perfectly normal behavior and acceptable for all dogs in
society.


Please
remember you and your dog are representing the hunting community, be
safe, be responsible, follow the laws and regulations for your area and
most importantly have fun.


Happy Hunting Hunting Pig Dogs of Australia

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Monday, April 25, 2011

Police powerless to act
over violent pig attacks

A 13-year-old boy was attacked by a pig
at a holiday park in Devon, suffering a bite on his arm.
Jordan Stock, from Pontypridd, south Wales,
suffered the injury at Cofton Holiday Park at Teignbridge.

Jordandid not require treatment for the injuries, but he is bruised.
Park owner Chris Jefferey said it was the latest in a series of attack
on people by pigs roaming in the area.

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Devon and Cornwall Police officers said
they were not investigating,
as there was no criminal legislation
covering attacks by pigs.


Police confirmed the attack on 16 April.
A spokesman said:
"The only legislation that applies
to attacks on humans by animals
is the Dangerous Dogs Act
and that does not apply to pigs."


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Pigs, Sheep and Wolves
https://youtu.be/Og58TwAQCPM


Big and fat
Pig’s supposed to look like that
Barnyard thug
Sleeps on straw and he calls it a rug
Yeah, that's a rug, okay
He's walking down the street
And nobody's gonna argue with him
He's a half a ton of pig meat

Up in the hills above the farm
Lives a pack of wolves
Never did no harm
Sleep all day
Hunt till four
Maybe catch a couple of rodents
You know, carnivore

Sheep in the meadow
Nibbling on some clover
One of the sheep wanders over
Sits by a rock
Separated from the flock
He's just sitting by a rock

Where'd he go?
I don't know
Well, he was here a minute ago
I don't know
Sheep's dead

Got a gash as big as a wolf's head
Oh, God

Big and fat
Pig’s supposed to look like that
Wallowing in lanolin
He's rubbing it into his pigskin
Police going crazy
Say, let’s get him
Let's get that wolf
Let's get him
Let's get that wolf
Let's get him
Let's kill him, let's get him
Let's kill him

Court-appointed lawyer wasn't very bright
Oh, maybe he was bright
Maybe it was just a late night
Yeah, it was just a late night
And he files some feeble appeal
And the governor says, “Forget it
It's a done deal
It’s election, I don't care, election
Let's give that wolf a lethal injection”
Let's get him, yeah, let’s get that wolf,
Let's kill him, let's get him
Let's kill him, let's get him, kill him
Let's get him and kill him

Whew, slow
Here comes the media
With their camera
Asking everyone's opinion
About pigs, sheep and wolves

Big and fat
Pig’s supposed to laugh like that
“This is hilarious
What a great time
I'm the pig who committed
The perfect crime”

All around the world
France and Scandinavia
Candlelight vigils
Protesting this behavior
It’s animal behavior
Animal behavior
It’s pigs, sheep and wolves
Pigs, sheep and wolves
Pigs, sheep and wolves
It’s animal behavior
It’s pigs, sheep and wolves

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ah yes, and we are all free to choose
what sort of "animals" we should behave like...


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http://www.paulsimon.com/music/surprise

"TINTIN" HATES, Paul Simon.
Not only because
"TINTIN" HATES "JEWS",
but because PAUL SIMON writes
what "TINTIN" SLAVES TO BURY,
THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD.


And The World LISTENS, and LOVES,
what PAUL SIMON WRITES!


Sad thing is, that years ago, I argued with
Contemporary "christian" Music Radio Programmers,
over Paul Simon,
explaining that he was writing PSALMS
for Our Age, For Ears That COULD HEAR...
but no, they could NOT 'hear' it and would NOT
play any of his music...well the years rolled on, and,
sure enough, he now CLEARLY and DIRECTLY,
writes of what I've been SHOWING in those years.
Facts of What Good Science Agree Is Real,
In This Real World...and that GOD DESCRIBED,
FROM THE BEGINNING.


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OLD
The first time I heard “Peggy Sue”

I was twelve years old
Russians up in rocket ships
And the war was cold
Now many wars have come and gone
Genocide still goes on
Buddy Holly still goes on
But his catalog was sold


First time I smoked
Guess what? Paranoid.
First time I heard “Satisfaction”
I was young and unemployed
Down the decades every year
Summer leaves and my birthday’s here
And all my friends stand up and cheer
And say, “Man, you’re old”
Getting old
Old
You’re getting old


We celebrate the birth of Jesus on Christmas Day
And Buddha found nirvana along the lotus way
About 1,500 years ago the messenger Mohammed spoke
And his wisdom like a river flowed
Through hills of gold
Wisdom is old
The Koran is old
The Bible is old
Greatest story ever told

Disagreements?
Work ‘em out

The human race has walked the earth for 2.7 million
And we estimate the universe at 13–14 billion
When all these numbers tumble into your imagination
Consider that the Lord was there before creation
God is old
We’re not old
God is old
He made the mold

Take your clothes off
Adam and Eve


© 1999 Words and Music by Paul Simon
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Post  true lilly Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:06 am

Maybe I get so many readers because they ARE SICK of
being TOLD BY "them" to JOIN "them" to be "free", of

THE FREE THINKING, TRULY FREE...who's LIVES "they"
HATE for NOT BEING BOUND in DARK DECEPTIONS.


true lilly wrote:...mmm... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 252310

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Bears Paw Inn in Knutsford, Cheshire -
Your hosts, Jason and Melanie Craig
have been in the licensed trade... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 252310
Bears Paw Inn, originally a 17th century farm house
located on the A50 Warrington Road. 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 252310

EVENTS:
Quiz Night
Join us at The Bears Paw Inn every Monday evening for our weekly Quiz Night! Starts at 2130....
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17 KNUT BEAR WHITE, & BLACK, EASTER, LILIES...and more...hey,
not saying the Craig's,
are in or out of any loops, wouldn't know 'em from Jack,
just find it,
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of the near 19 Million views, 'tap "tintin" on the shoulder', with there
being SO MANY of the "connections" that Team "tintin" SO MUCH,
LUVVV to "make"...all in one little old English Pub...
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...particularly when you see how hard "tintin '&' cori" have to
TAP DANCE OVER The BURNING COWPATS of HELL to MAKE UP
UTTERLY UNconnected 'links'...that they so desperately NEED
an EXCUSE to post To 'their' FOLLOWERS at D.I.F.
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as so clearly evident in this page "dixie" most recently posted the link to:


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1999

oh, and you'll note it is a VERY, DARK BLOODY MASS MURDEROUS Message,
that 'they' HAD TO, TWIST & TURN & FLIP & REVERSE & EXCLUDE & INVENT
UTTER BOLLOCKS, to SEND, THAT, VERY PARTICULAR MESSAGE, 'OUT THERE'.
Suspect
Black Maria

...employed for the transportation of prisoners
These vehicles were usually painted black or a very dark blue.
In the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand
and the United States, a police wagon was also sometimes called
a Black Maria (pronounced like Mariah /məˈraɪ.ə/=BITTER)

The term is still used today in parts of Britain
for the vehicle that transports prisoners from jail to court,
appearing in the songs
"Guns of Brixton" by The Clash
and
"Adios Hermanos" by Paul Simon.

Frequently, blackened-windowed buses
are also used for the same purpose.
The term 'Schwarze Maria' is also common in Germany.

(oh I did NOT copy or paste that linked sentence, "they" put it in,
and wouldn't let me remove it
, but eventually, let me also paste
what I DID copy
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The term 'Schwarze Maria' is also common in Germany.

The Black Maria is also called 'Mothers Heart'
as it is said that there is always room for one more...
...one more child for a BITTER BLACK HEATED "mother"
to USE and ABUSE.


The phrase panda car
refers to a small or medium-sized police car
operated by British police forces.


The giant panda, or panda
(Ailuropoda melanoleuca, literally meaning
"black and white cat-foot")[2]
is a bear

The giant panda's closest ursine relative
is the spectacled bear of South America.


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The (BLACK & White) BEARS PAW
Panda diplomacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda
PANDER diplomacy


pan·der
noun /ˈpandər/ 

  1. A person who assists the baser urges or evil designs of others

    • - the lowest panders of a venal press
    • verb /ˈpandər/
</li>




  1. Gratify or indulge (an immoral or distasteful desire, need, or habit or a person with such a desire, etc.)
Give 'em what they want,
and,
"Let The (Black Hearted) Filthy,
Be Filthy still",
When The Man Comes Around

https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E

Latin fiat, meaning "let it be done"


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Fiat Panda Cross 4x4

Chinese copy controversy

On December 2006, Fiat considered taking legal action against Chinese automaker Great Wall Motor for the company's Peri, which is a copy of the Panda's design.[14]
In July 2008, Fiat successfully sued Great Wall and had the Peri
banned from importation into Europe.
In addition, the court order ruled
for Great Wall to pay Fiat a 15,000 euro fine for the first Peri
imported, and an additional 50,000 euros for every subsequent car that
was imported.
[15]

However, on October 2009, Great Wall Motor sued Fiat, accusing the latter of espionage.
In the lawsuit, Great Wall claims that "Fiat once instigated espionage
to prowl into its research center and take photos of Peri small car that
was still under developed."
[16]

Fiat money is money that has value
only because of government regulation or law.

Fiat money originated in 11th century China

See, THEY, Team TINTIN et al,
Don't Hate and Fight
"the powers that be", THEY ARE "they"!

But, "they" Do
BITTERLY ENVY, HATE and COWARDLY ATTACK
(By Setting YOU Against),
THE POWERS GOD RAISES TO CORRECT,
and CUT OFF, "they" who REFUSE to be corrected.

true lilly wrote:So, still believe that "free & open" Forums
are "Free & Open"?

I KNOW they are NOT!

(see my quoted post below)

But again, I feel I must restate that,
contrary to Wild Speculations
and Bitter Rumours,
I am NOT, nor have ever been,
"In" ANY "Inner Circle".

Besides the fact that;
'The Fools' fear me,
and
'The Wise' know,
it's
Not My Place;
from my earliest memory
I've not wanted to 'step in'
ANYWHERE
that would 'close me off' from
The First Commandment
of
The First and Last.

And though it has 'cost' me,
(in the 'blind' eyes of the 'worldly'),
in countless ways, with countless enemies
(I'm 'seen' as 'weak' for not pursuing with vengeance),
the Blessing's that have come with Choosing to Freely,
Seek God's Word and Patiently Serve His Perfect Will,
Are Priceless!

Yet, I beg you to understand, I don't assume to speak
'for' God, but OF God and His Real World, Real Life Existence,
and, His Promises Kept, as demonstrated in this one little life,
through both His Blessing's, And, Loving Corrections,
so Gratefully Received.

And so, though I've many errors yet to be accounted,
until and unless I'm Clearly Called to another Duty,
I will continue to witness, warn and Sing, For those
who want to Dance in The Perfect Joy of God's Love.


Got It?
Get It!


And now (below), just in case it to is removed, is another post
by "dixie d" that I've yet to read, let alone check it's many links.

So why post it?
Why my interest in "dixie d's" posts?

As I've explained, I am not a 'numbers', 'puzzles' or
'code cracking' person, as I don't trust those games
of changing rules, played by man, but my nature is
to notice Patterns, Anomalies and Enigmas, something
I failed to do in the early days of "dixie d's" posts, and
that cost me an expanded, edifying, general education,
for which I must humble myself. I erred, in only 'seeing'
'code speak', and Not Hearing 'whispered song'.

Yet though,
I have no idea of who "dixie" really is,
nor what or whom, their enigmatic posts
are actually intended to 'speak' of or to,
I only know they have real value in assisting
to better Sift and Sort the chaff from the grain.

So here, sift and sort away...


dixie d wrote: 28-06-2011, 02:28 AM
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I'll let you all carry on.

I just want to say this as I'm still not sure what's going on.

Going back to the article...

Smile! You're on meerkat camera - warden's shock as cheeky creatures shoot their own family album

Which to me is linked to our resident poster tinyint and Meerkats.

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It seems to me that it is also linked to Camera's. I have a Camera here
which is a Cannon and when you open it up and take out the Battery I
notice the following... DEA and also the CH01.

Dea would link to Dean and the CH01 to me would link to Chester Post Codes


This morning I was thinking of the name Cameron and I then thought of Cameron Poe and the Con Air

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As you can see he's making the Titanic stance. On the Wiki page I also notice the following...
Quote:

DEA Agent Duncan Malloy
wishes to bring aboard one of his Agents, Willie Sims, as a prisoner to
coax more information out of drug lord Francisco Cindino before he is
incarcerated. Vince Larkin, the U.S. Marshal overseeing the transfer,
agrees to it, but is unaware that Malloy has armed Sims with a gun.

When you click on DEA you see it is about the Drug Enforcement Administration, so there must be a link to Dean and Drugs.

You also see I have highlighted the Malloy which reminds me of Malone
and and Jasmine Homes, and a Clan because of the Cameron. Cameron
reminds me of Mark Cameron Sears who lives in a Jasmine Home.

Tinyint reminds me of Tintin and as this is Thailand it reminds me of Tintin in Thailand. On that page you see the following...

Quote:

The group head out to the red light district where they run into
General Alcazar, now the owner of a Thailand bar after being deposed by
General Tapioca. Alcazar has seen Jolyon Wagg pass through the bar, but
he has gone north to Chiang Mai with a kathoey (transexual). Calculus
and Haddock both hook up with prostitutes in the bar but Tintin prefers the company of a young man instead.

I also know two men here who are Gay and they also live in a
Jasmine home, one is from Ellesmere Port and I believe one is from
Chester, which is the Older man, who's name is Roger. So I would expect
that to link to the Chester Post Code wiki page. Where you see the
following...

Quote:

Post towns 13
Postcode districts 36
Postcode sectors 212

I don't know for shore, but I believe he may be a Mason. Together with his Clan.

I could be wrong of course, and there are a lot more involved in this conspiracy I know.

Canon also links to Japan.

I don't know if I can stay alive because I'm constantly poisoned and
drugged. And I also believe that certain chemicals in food react with my
teeth. Not to mention other things. I can't do anything about all this,
so I leave it at that.

As far as I know I have no links to Masons, only by relationship to
family, I've never attended a Masons meeting, the only event I every
remember was going to Masons parties as a young boy, together with my
Mother and Father. As I said I did met a guy here who moved on, but he
was also associated with Steve Malone because he bought some land of
him, the last I heard was that he was back in Chiang Mai after selling
his house, whether he is still here, I don't know.

Also on the Post Code Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:

The CH postcode area, also known as the Chester postcode area,[2] is
a group of postcode districts near the England/Wales border. Having
previously roughly covered the former Chester district and present-day
Flintshire county, postcodes for the Wirral Peninsula (CH41-CH66) were
transferred to it in 1999 from the L postcode area.

I'd say there is a link to Thread Number 1999 and the name Findus
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What this is all about and why I'm being subjected to all this abuse, I don't know.
true lilly wrote:...mmm...'they' are at it again, at "tintin's" thread on D.I.F.

AFTER posting this...


true lilly wrote:
When elephants attack...

Meerkats become photographers...


dixie d wrote: 27-06-2011, 02:37 PM
#29087

Stand up straight and say 'fleas': Meerkat turns photographer after hi-jacking camera

In that article you also see the following at the bottom...

and Seagulls become film makers...


...with "SPY" camera and "CASTLE"
featuring in the short piece


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Seagull cam

A film producer says a seagull
stole his camera
and shot a short film with it.
See the result
http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2027327651/Seagull-cam


...I'd say there is a warning, worth taking heed of...

Ecclesiastes 9:12

12
For man also does not know his time. Just like
fishes that are being taken in an evil net, and like birds that are
being taken in a trap, so the sons of men themselves are being ensnared
at a calamitous time, when it falls upon them suddenly.


Strong's Hebrew Dictionary
for more the depth of meaning;

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Ecc&c=9&v=12&t=KJV#12

Jeremiah 5:26-29

26
“‘For among my people there have been found
wicked men. They keep peering, as when birdcatchers crouch down. They
have set a ruinous [trap]. It is men that they catch. 27
As a cage is full of flying creatures, so their
houses are full of deception. That is why they have become great and
they gain riches.
28
They have grown fat; they have become shiny. They
have also overflowed with bad things. No legal case have they pleaded,
even the legal case of the fatherless boy, that they may gain success;
and the judgment of the poor ones they have not taken up.’”

29
“Should I not hold an accounting because of these
very things,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “or on a nation that is like
this should not my soul avenge itself?


Strong's Hebrew Dictionary
for more the depth of meaning;

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=5&v=26&t=KJV#26

...and that I've found myself disinclined to follow
the news lately, lest I 'babble on', about the recent
'thrusts and parries' of the business of global politics
when it is not my time and place to do so...though,
as always, I can't deny The Word of God, and pray,
the lovers of Just Life, repent of rejecting it...

Jeremiah 51
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=51&v=1&t=KJV#top

Jeremiah 21

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=21&v=1&t=KJV#top

...I found "tintin's" page, with "no new posts",
on page 3 of Today's news, yet, as well as
REMOVING "ninny's" earlier post in reply to
"dixie d", it was REPEATED as the, then, last post,
in this, New, UNlinked post by "ninny";


ninny wrote: 27-06-2011, 06:10 AM
#29081
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I notice there is a time on that picture 1:15:10, I just wondered if there might be anything more on the picture.
maybe john 15:10

Quote:

If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.

book of the LIE --> see also BELIEVE or BELIEVE
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dixie d wrote:
27-06-2011, 02:01 AM
#29078

Originally Posted by yantra
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so the game is over and everything is alright. I´m relieved but at the same time irritated. What was it all about now?

Yantra,

I just though, I wonder if there is anything in the words Anti Climax?Last edited by dixie d; 27-06-2011 at 02:09 AM.

true lilly wrote:Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:06
The climax
(from the Greek word “κλῖμαξ” (klimax)
meaning “staircase” and “ladder”)
or turning point

of a narrative work
is its point of highest tension
or drama or
when the action starts
in which the solution is given.

An anti-climax
is
where something
which
would appear
to be
difficult
to solve
in a plot
is solved
through something
trivial.
Surprised Wink Smile Very Happy

...and though I HAVE TO edit MOST of my posts here,
a number of times, to FIX The EDITS "done to" them,
with NO "edit" note attached, this post suddenly "gets"
this LYING (I Had To FIX=edit it Many times)"edit" note;

Last edited by true lilly on

Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:24 am;
edited 1 time in total


true lilly wrote:Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:31 am
CONtraDICTING...?

dict.
1. dictation
2. dictator
3. dictionary


CONfusing...?

for Most...unLESS
ONE CARES
to Sift and Sort
The Host from the ghost
from THE SPIRIT...

Leonard Cohen - The Traitor

https://youtu.be/WMehBiX9rz8

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After receiving a large inheritance,
James Bond 007 is accused of improprieties and drummed out
of the British Secret Service. Disgusted with his former employers,
Bond places his services on the open market, where he later attracts the
attention of representatives of SPECTRE
who are quite willing to put their one-time enemy on their payroll. But
the whole thing was a hoax, just a plan to get Bond inside the enemy's
organization.


Prior to joining up, Bond spends a month in Monte Carlo with Miss 'Percy' Proud,
a CIA agent who teaches him everything she knows about programming languages
and computers in general.

This background allows Bond to attract Jay Autem Holy, an agent of SPECTRE
who left The Pentagon, faked his death, and later started a computer game company
that creates simulations based on real-life battles and wars.


Bond's allegiance to SPECTRE is periodically questioned throughout
the novel, even at one point going so far as to send Bond to a terrorist
training camp (known as "Erewhon") to see if he has 'the right stuff'.
Proving his worth, Bond becomes involved in a plot to destabilise
the Soviet Union and the United States, by forcing them to rid the world
of their nuclear weapons.

What SPECTRE leaders Tamil Rahani and Dr. Jay Autem Holy suspect, but
never fully realise is that Bond's resignation is false.
Along with Bond, the Secret Service plays a vital role in foiling SPECTRE; however,
Rahani, the current leader of SPECTRE is able to escape Bond's clutches
by parachuting out of an airship over Switzerland.


TRIVIA:
Gardner was prevented from having a scene in which Bond squares off on
a computer game simulation against the novel's villain Jay Autem Holy
because of a similar scene in the 1983 film Never Say Never Again.
Bond was supposed to be playing a simulation of "The Battle of Waterloo";
however, this was changed to a game based on "The Battle of Bunker Hill".
Interestingly, the Battle of Waterloo would later play a part in
the official 1987 Bond film, The Living Daylights.

dixie d wrote:27-06-2011, 01:46 AM
#29077

I'm not sure if there is anything in this.
Last night I watched the The Book of Eli (for the second time).
To be honest I found it difficult to get my head around,
especially that the movie ends at Alcatraz.

The movie stars Denzel Washington

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I notice there is a time on that picture 1:15:10, I just wondered if there might be anything more on the picture.

I notice on the Denzel Washington Wiki page the following...

Quote:
Born Denzel Hayes Washington, Jr.
December 28, 1954 (age 56)
Mount Vernon, New York,
United States

On the Mount Vernon Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:

Mount Vernon is a city in Westchester County, New York, United States. It lies on the border of the New York City borough of The Bronx.

On the Westchester County Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:
Westchester County is a county located in the U.S. state of New
York. Westchester covers an area of 450 square miles (1,200 km2) and has
a population of approximately 950,000, residing in 45 municipalities.
It was named after the city of Chester in England, and the county seat is White Plains.

West Cheshire to me means West Cheshire Hospital, or Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust on that page you see the following...

Quote:
In 1983, a new A&E department and general hospital unit opened
on the site, which was then renamed Countess of Chester, in honour of
one the Princess of Wales's more obscure titles. The naming ceremony was
performed by the Prince and Princess of Wales, Prince Charles and
Diana, Princess of Wales.

So to me there is a link from Washington to Prince Charles, I say Prince Charles, because Lady Diana died.

I'm also wondering if there might be a link from that movie to Enlil and Maybe C/2010 X1 or as we know it Elenin.

Enlil and Elenin

I need to think about this a bit more.
Last edited by dixie d; 27-06-2011 at 01:57 AM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yantra
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so the game is over and everything is alright. I´m relieved but at the same time irritated. What was it all about now?

Yantra,

I just though, I wonder if there is anything in the word Anti Climax?

hey, don't ask me...

I speak, WHO Listens?
WHO LISTENS...

found this post AFTER, The ABOVE...
Was Posted.

but, I do wonder, I HAVE TO WONDER...
and NOW I'll go wander,
through those links...
Crumbs, Leads...

...out and away from
The Witches Oven...
is where...

All ways and For ever, I HAVE TO WANDER...
I was BORN in SUCH blood...

BLESS GOD, Thank The SPIRIT.

Very Happy...found this, after that...

The printing press at Alcatraz begins printing
the new King James version Bible,

after which Lombardi places a copy on the bookshelf
between copies of
the Torah and Qur'an.

Solara is offered sanctuary in Alcatraz,

but she instead chooses to head back HOME. Wink Smile

Often referred to
as "The Rock",
the small island served
as a
LIGHThouse

FIRST Google, for 1:15:10
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+1%3A15%2CMark+10%3A29&version=NKJV

or What Is Shown There,
in other words...


Mark 1:15
and saying:
“The appointed time has been fulfilled,
and the kingdom of God has drawn near.
Be repentant, YOU people,
and have faith in the good news.”


Mark 10:29
Jesus said: “Truly I say to YOU
men,
No one has left house or brothers or sisters
or mother or father
or children or fields for my sake
and for the sake of the good news


...which continues...

30
who will not get a hundredfold now in this period
of time,
houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and
fields,
with persecutions, and in the coming system of things
everlasting life.
31
However, many that are first will be last, and the last first.”

LISTEN, HEAR...
TEN YEARS...

https://youtu.be/OEDc9cUKpo4

Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2010_X1

As of 21 May 2011,
the coma has exceeded 100,000 km.



The Great Comet of 1861
discovered by John Tebbutt of
Windsor, New South Wales,
Australia, on

May 13, 1861

It was not visible
in the northern hemisphere

until June 29,
but it arrived before word of
the comet's discovery.

The comet of 1861
interacted with the Earth
in an almost unprecedented way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/1861_J1

...ah, sift and sort it FOR Your Selves,
lest The One Who Will,
CORRECT US all the more...


...and following that edit,
I find:

dixie d wrote:
Edelweiss,

Not meaning again to be rude I was looking at the Wiki page for The Sound of Music and on that page you notice the following...

Quote:

It is based on the memoir of Maria von Trapp, The Story of the Trapp
Family Singers. Many songs from the musical have become standards,
including the title song "The Sound of Music", "Edelweiss", "My Favorite Things", "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" and "Do-Re-Mi".

I notice that Edelweiss is a flower and you also name flowers Plants, so going back to the Sound of Music Wiki page I notice the following...

Quote:

In Salzburg, Austria, just before World War II, nuns from Nonnberg Abbey sing the Dixit Dominus.
One of the postulants, Maria Rainer, is on the nearby mountainside
regretting leaving the beautiful hills ("The Sound of Music") where she
was raised. She returns late.

Dixit isn't far from the name Dixie is it? So, I go to the Dixit Dominus Wiki page...

As you can see that link takes you to Psalm 110. That Psalm is a Psalm of David and it also happens to be on page 402 which without the zero would make 42. This Bible I have was given to me by a guy who runs a Church of Christ, from his house.

Whether that was a plant or not, I don't know.
Last edited by dixie d; 27-06-2011 at 03:34 AM.

I was also looking at the word Forum. You could look at that as Foe Rum.
Rum as we know is a Spirit as in Drink and also Ghost, so you could
look at Forum as a Bad Spirit, which is what I seem to be drinking here
in Thailand.

I could be wrong about all this but, I don't think so, and that goes for
all the other things used to poison me. If I deserve it all, then fair
enough, but I'd say there are a lot worse people on this planet than me.
Last edited by dixie d; 27-06-2011 at 03:55 AM.

LOVE and BLESSINGS
https://youtu.be/pP1CCH7DEQM

Psalms 110:1-7
Of David. A melody.

1
The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:
“Sit at my right hand
Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”


2
The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:]
“Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”


3
Your people will offer themselves willingly on the day of your military force.
In the splendors of holiness, from the womb of the dawn,
You have your company of young men just like dewdrops.


4
Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret):
“You are a priest to time indefinite
According to the manner of Mel·chiz´e·dek!”


5
Jehovah himself at your right hand
Will certainly break kings to pieces on the day of his anger.


6
He will execute judgment among the nations;
He will cause a fullness of dead bodies.
He will certainly break to pieces the head one over a populous land.


7
From the torrent valley in the way he will drink.
That is why he will raise high [his] head.

...and it continues, "live" with this post of "dixie d",
following "ninny's" "last post"...


dixie d wrote: 28-06-2011, 01:49 AM
#29082
Yesterday a guy by the name of Mark Sears came round the house, he was the one who gave me the Flagstaff, Arizona as we were talking he also mentioned buying some Cod fish.

This morning I just happened to go back to Thread 1999

On the thread you see the name Tiger which reminds me of Tiger Beer

The next thing I noticed was this picture...

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You see the word Findus on that picture and Findus reminds me of Findus on the Findus Wiki page you also see the following...

Quote:


In Italy, the brand is owned by Unilever which markets a different line of frozen foods common to the Iglo and Birds Eye brands in other countries.

If you go to the Birds Eye Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:

Known in the United States as a "fish stick" (although not the same
size size or consistency), where it has been suggested that in the 1920s
they were invented in Massachusetts to help fishermen find larger
markets for their increasingly large catches of cod.

Quote:

United States - As part of General Foods it merged with Kraft Foods
and Philip Morris USA in what became the Altria Group. Birds Eye was
sold to Dean Foods in 1993 and was independently owned by Birds Eye Foods of Rochester, New York until purchased by Pinnacle Foods in 2009.[1]

So there is a link to Dean Foods

The next thing I see is the word Busby which reminds me of Matt Busby on his page you see the following...

Quote:

Busby's father – a miner – was killed by a German sniper during the
First World War at the Battle of the Somme, while three of his uncles
were killed in France with the Cameron Highlanders.

Now this guy Mark who came round is name is Mark Cameron Sears.

You then go down the page and you see this picture...

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This is also what Tintin posted about the above picture...

Quote:

I just posted about MERYL STREEP and the various KRAMER links.
You see the SEARS tower is a DEVIL TOWER.
They have another prominent DEVIL TOWER in CHICAGO.

The picture posted by Tintin is actually the Hancock Centre, whether that makes any difference I don't know.

You have the Sears Tower which is now the Willis Tower.

I need to go through that thread a bit more, but as it is thread 1999 it also reminds me again of Space 1999 and Moonbase Alpha

...disappearing and becoming...

dixie d wrote: 28-06-2011, 02:28 AM
#29082
I'll let you all carry on.

...and that brings me back to my last post,
ELI,
and what is to befall his "house";


ELI
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=eli&t=KJV

PSALMS 130
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=130&v=1&t=KJV#top
Psalms 130:1-8

A Song of the Ascents.

1
Out of the depths I have called upon you, O Jehovah.


2
O Jehovah, do hear my voice.
May your ears prove to be attentive to the voice of my entreaties.


3
If errors were what you watch, O Jah,
O Jehovah, who could stand?


4
For there is the [true] forgiveness with you,
In order that you may be feared.


5
I have hoped, O Jehovah, my soul has hoped,
And for his word I have waited.


6
My soul [has waited] for Jehovah
More than watchmen for the morning,
Watching for the morning.


7
Let Israel keep waiting for Jehovah.
For there is loving-kindness with Jehovah,
And abundantly so is there redemption with him.


8
And he himself will redeem Israel out of all his errors.


The SOUND of SILENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvsX03LOMhI
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one dared
Disturb the sound of silence

"Fools", said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words, like silent raindrops fell
And echoed
In the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said,
"The words of the prophets
are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls"
And whispered in the sounds of silence


...and now lets see how many times I have to edit this,
to make it legible Rolling Eyes ...once so far...twice, and still,
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We are ALL, INDIVIDUAL, UNIQUE,
and We CAN'T BE THE BEST PERSON
We ARE BORN TO BE,

by 'parroting' and doing what we see
the 'monkeys' do...

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ducks to avoid the jet ski slamming in to his head


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PELE CLUB - BE AHEAD, BE UNIQUE

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The original Slow Cow logo, which prompted legal action by Red Bull.
...while there were plenty of energy drinks available, there were no beverages to "help people slow down when they are stressed...While Fleury admitted to the similar packaging, he said that his lawyers "are confident they will win this case."


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The Edelweiss white flower

"Edelweiss" is a show tune from the1959 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical
The Sound of Music
.

It is named after the edelweiss, a white flower

found high in the Alps.
It is sung by


Captain Georg Ludwig von Trapp
and his family during the concert

near the end of Act II
as a defiant statement of

Austrian patriotism in the face of

the pressure put upon
him to join the navy
of Nazi Germany.

At a United Methodist
Women's Conference,
revised lyrics for the song
were handed out with
instructions stating that the benediction

Modified (Benediction) lyrics

"May the Lord, mighty God,
Bless and keep you forever.
Grant you peace, perfect peace,

Courage in every endeavor.

Lift your eyes and see His face,

And His grace forever.

May the Lord, mighty God,

Bless and keep you forever."

was to be sung to the tune of
"Edelweiss".


Legal problems
Despite the popularity of this practice,
the estates of Rodgers and Hammerstein
have not authorized the use of the lyrics
of this benediction
with the melody of the song,
and hold that this practice is
illegal.

Rodgers stated that
"he would take legal action
against any group"
using the "Edelweiss" melody
with altered words......

so, the "protest" Was AGAINST SERVING

in His Nation's Navy,
and IS AGAINST BLESSING GOD,
NOT AGAINST NAZI GERMANY
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RED SHIRTS...


SAME OLD, SAME OLD...

SAME OLD MOB MENTALity...


that makes
YOU,
THE UNIQUE, INDIVIDUAL
GOD MADE,
"Their" ENEMY!
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Post  true lilly Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:48 pm

...and lucky for the good guys,
that so many 'live' down to 'ninny's' 'name'...

ninny wrote:05-07-2011, 07:26 PM #29216
dixie sorry for not commenting on your infos. it is much stuff... i only
scan and post what i feel could mean something.... ill check your
postings now a lil deeper.

05-07-2011, 07:35 PM #29217
mate, i think its good when you edit your car id into *** *hugs*

polis means "city".
in - diana - city ;-)
reminds me of sex in the city... o.O
...blah, silly, condescending, deaf, dumb, blind, blah...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2922
true lilly wrote:Yes, YASS is an ASS like ASS Ange...
and like All Team TINTIN,
all up the devil's whore's ASS...


dixie wrote: 05-07-2011, 02:35 AM #29202

Quote:

Originally Posted by yass
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Yesterday morning I looked at the clock and it was 10:10. This morning I looked at the clock and it was 5:55.

Curious.

Yass,

The registration on my car is BA 5534, I don't know if that was intentional or not, and what it's supposed to mean.

(edited by dixie d; 05-07-2011 at 02:51 AM.)

If you put BA 5534 into Google you come to this BA 5534 page.
Last edited by dixie d; 05-07-2011 at 02:51 AM.

...and Google 'image' it, you get this:
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http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top

true lilly wrote:Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:53 am

Fine by me if you herd all the Cultists
to 'their' final destination...
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"let the filthy be filthy still"...

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Established in 1995,
Tintinologist.org,
formerly
The Cult of Tintin,
is the oldest and largest
English language
Tintin fan site on the
Internet.

hey, take it up with "tintin" and his team,
who luvvv to cheer him on when he boasts
of,
"BEING AN EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"....
...yet, HIMSELF NEVER FEARING
FLYING AROUND THE WORLD
AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
..mmm...


http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=49&v=1&t=KJV#top

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=50&v=1&t=KJV#

...and remember, TINTIN FAILED "the Daniel Test",
and continues to do so...

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=magicians&t=KJV

...see, unlike "tintin", I've never suffered a Messiah Delusion
so I'll keep trusting God to do The Final, Correcting, Sifting and Sorting
.

Speaking of sifting and sorting; God also tells us to do a lot of that,
with a lot of testing, before believing any man's word, or indeed,
any interpretation of God's Word...NETS also make good sieves...

true lilly wrote:
el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote:Hee
hee, nobody has to read my posts, yet they do. But don't worry too much,
there are still plenty of Traitorous and hoodwinked Australians who
will PAY to see David Icke when he comes to Australia to spread his
insanity and RECRUIT MORE TRAITORS...along with those employed to WATCH
and PROTECT Australian from the worst of 'ICKEST'
plots.

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what's an australian?

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what's a DUTCH CNUT?
someone who wants to distract from relevant information:
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1127p15-shut-the-hell-up-about-australia
..but God keeps his own on track,
and lets us have a little fun along the way...
Wink Very Happy
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El-Ka-BONG
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"END IMPUNITY!
JUSTICE NOW!"

http://verafiles.org/hr-case-watch/hr-case-watch-photos/the-suspect/
"VERA files"

15 March 2011
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ON
May 18, 2001, “Ka Bong” or

Wilfredo Layug was arrested in
San Roque in
Sta. Ana, Pampanga for

illegal possession of firearms.

Police
confiscated from Layug one loaded Colt pistol.


Layug used to be a member of the New People’s Army
under the command
of Palermo Ortanez

operating in Mexico, Pampanga.

Sources said Layug was
hired by the Philippine Army

as an “asset.”

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....funny hey, what a Google search for "el ka bong"
will give one...btw, not only is this the first I remember
coming across this site, but I can't read it as my pc has
a hissy fit if I try to go beyond page the image is on
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22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 252310 alright! That so many 'think' that NOT Thinking For Themselves,
will "get them off the hook", for the Evils their Not Caring to Think,
bring about.
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Post  true lilly Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:14 pm

true lilly wrote:22,000+++ Views for true lilly...so how many
AREN'T Traitorous Agents...still missing THE POINT?

Well I can't help but wonder...wherever I post,
the Numbers Soar...but only a very few DARE to
Talk WITH me...while the Full Time Agents who
'man' (BOT) Forums, go crazy
at me for bringing
them readers and members, with What NO ONE ELSE
DARE to FREELY SHARE...THE VERY BEST NEWS... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 832261


...Seriously, what is so frightening about HAVING
The Free Will Choice to LIVE FOREVER, RE-PLANTING,
RE-BUILDING, HEALING and ACTUALLY CREATING?


Too Proud to say, 'Sorry God'?
Too Selfish to spread The Good Oil?

And, how many of the nearly 18 MILLION views
of "tintin's" thread at D.I.F HAVE NOTICED that
after 6 years of my showing folk that GOD EXISTS
and GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES, that 'they',
my LITERAL and Verbal ATTACKERS have NEVER
provided a Counter Argument, and while "team tintin"
keep 'making predictions' that DON'T HAPPEN,

what I and others like palomino have shown
GOD SAID To WATCH FOR, KEEP HAPPENING,
Against All The Experts and Guru's 'predictions'?

And, Do 'you' Know Who They Are...maybe some,
But, GOD ALSO SAID HE WOULD Raise And HIDE
HIS OWN, to Do the re-planting, re-building, and
CREATING.
Smile

Hey, maybe if I run around every forum I can find,
telling people not to read or consider any of 'your'
posts, they will do the opposite to, and 'you' to may
get serious thinkers sharing them with other serious
thinkers...nah, that wouldn't work, because unlike my
posts, 'yours' don't contain anything of value to seriously
think about...oh well...

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:btw, thanks for making it so blindingly Wink clear again,
in this VERY PREACHY Thread of 'yours' Rolling Eyes ,
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1165-lilly-do-you-comprehend-this-data
that Team Tintin/Icke/ASSange et al ARE "The Jews"...
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...so do keep BABBLING ON BABYLON...GOD IS listening... Wink Smile

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...so, just like my reply was 'made to go away',
I'm 'not here now' either
...
...and neither are 'you'...dicks...
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But, dead head, when are you going to learn, that it's not what goes in,
but what comes out, that WILL KILL YOU...oh that's right, those capable of
learning, are banned from membership of Team Tintin ASSange The Sods!!!
...for fear they may twig onto 'their' favourite 'joke', being:
"We Are The Beastly Legion Slaving For The Enemy Of Life. And
we're worshiped by a world of limp dick peace freaks."

...psst, The Saviour doesn't wear rose coloured glasses,
He does see everything we say;
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1133p60-tintin-an-insight
...and He does have a two edged sword...


REVELATIONS 2:11
Let the one who has an ear hear
what the spirit
says to the congregations:
He that conquers will by no means be harmed
by the second death.’


and 12
and beyond...
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=2&t=KJV#comm/12

1) the mouth, as part of the body: of man, of animals, of fish, etc.
a) since thoughts of a man's soul find verbal utterance by his mouth,

the "heart" or "soul" and the mouth are distinguished
2) the edge of a sword

ninny wrote:


Originally Posted by tintin
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we are legion. we are anonymous 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Biggrin
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Yeah, 'they'/'Babylon' do babble on and on in loopy circles,
getting more and more tangled in the noose 'they'
try to tie around the necks of The Living...


Babel or Babylon = "confusion (by mixing)"
From בָּלַל (H1101)


JEREMIAH 51:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=51&v=1&t=KJV#top
Idiots. It's the mobs of victi-mizer's who literally
RUN AWAY SCARED from this one, little, alone but
for her faith in Our Creator, old lady, because they
know of the countless recorded examples (some of
which), I post, to remind those finding it tough to
keep going, under the injustices they are made to
suffer, that if I can keep going, anyone can, With
God's help.

Well we know this quote of el kabong's lies
that 'they're' 'quoting me-;

el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote:

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But why the need to scream 'your' empty clap trap
over the top of independent views that the CON Industry
refuse to share with others lest they come to some more
balanced understanding of what really is going on in the world?

Do 'you' believe that thinking people haven't figured it out?


true lilly wrote:"MOVE or DIE!"...
are the first words you see
to go with the image of a
CHEETAH running FOR IT'S LIFE,
from the ANGRY JAWS of a ZEBRA...
then, over the image of
traveling ELEPHANTS, the title,
"THE GREAT MIGRATION."


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Nature's Great Events is a wildlife documentary series made for BBC television,
first shown in the UK on BBC One and BBC HD in February 2009.
The series looks at how seasonal
changes powered by the sun cause
shifting weather patterns and ocean
currents, which in turn
create the conditions
for some of the planetÂ’s
most spectacular wildlife events.
Each episode focuses on the challenges
and opportunities
these changes present to a few key species.


"Only a nature documentary.", is what most would think,
but then most don't Watch for The Signs God Described,
of His past and future Promises Kept.


11 Extinct Animals That Have Been Photographed Alive

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brown or tan along its rear and underbelly, until becoming white along
its legs. This picture represents the only Quagga ever to have been
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The last Tasmanian Tiger,
or Thylacine, known to have existed died in the Hobart Zoo, in
Tasmania, Australia, on September 7th, 1936. Despite being the last of
its kind, the animal (named “Benjamin”) likely died due to neglect after
being locked out of its sheltered quarters during extreme weather.

Shambles alright...claims to be anti-DIF
but full of that mental case's defenders
insanely attacking the one game enough
to share their insider knowledge of the
beastly person behind that CON Industry
puppet.


el kabong wrote:

Miss Lilly, you cannot Post in this Thread..........


Same ol' same ol' alright...won't bore folk with the same ol',
done to death, weighed and measured and found wanting,
hoodwinking propaganda (and same ol' cute cat images used
by gutless cowards, to mock, insult and threaten folk), in this
pouting, foot stomping, post of an angry child busted cheating
but still wanting to keep the prize, but will ask for the equal right,
to tell whomever I want, to refrain from posting their same ol'
hoodwinking propaganda in my threads.
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Post  MoMo Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:16 pm

Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


lillywilly...... wave

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

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Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf

lilly, are you capable of understanding the term: RUNT CONTINENT as it pertains to Australia? It means its the SMALLEST Continent.......... thumbs up lmao rolf wave wacky

true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.

Lilly, your post is proof that you have eyes yet you are blind and do not see. Had you bothered to read and comprehend my Post you would 'see that it is a Public Revelation, not private like your bullshit. thumbs up


Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure. thumbs up

[size=24]#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake. thumbs up


What support is there for the claim that God spoke to all the Jewish people at the foot of Mount Sinai?


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/start-of-judaism/

The Torah claims that the entire Jewish nation heard God speak at Sinai, an assertion that has been accepted as part of their nation’s history for over 3,000 years................Two types of stories are part of any national heritage.

The first kind is legends. Included in this category is George Washington’s admission to chopping down the cherry tree, along with his statement, “I cannot tell a lie.” Johnny Appleseed planting apple trees across America with his discarded apple cores is another legend
..........................................What is the difference between legend and history?

A legend is an unverified story. By their very nature legends are unverifiable because they have very few eyewitnesses. Perhaps little George did chop down the cherry tree. We can’t know if it happened. This does not mean that the legend is necessarily false, only that it is unverifiable. No one thinks legends are facts, therefore they are not accepted as reliable history.

History, however, is comprised of events we know actually happened. It is reliable because we can determine if the claimed event is true or false through a number of ways. One key to verification is the assertion that large numbers of eyewitnesses observed the specific event
.....................................SINAI: AN IMPOSSIBLE HOAX

So far we have seen two types of claims—one is unverifiable and the other is inherently false.

Could the revelation at Sinai have been a brilliant hoax, duping millions of people into believing that God spoke to them?
....................SINAI: THE ONLY CLAIM OF NATIONAL REVELATION

Throughout history, tens of thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that God spoke to him or her. All religions that base themselves on some type of revelation share essentially the same beginning: a holy person goes into solitude, comes back to his people, and announces that he has experienced a personal revelation where God appointed him to be His prophet.

Would you believe someone who claims to have received a personal communication from God appointing him or her as God’s new prophet?

Maybe He did. Then again, maybe He didn’t. One can never know. The claim is inherently unverifiable.

Personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion since one can never know if it is indeed true. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy................................There are 15,000 known religions in all of recorded history. Given this inherent weakness, why do all of them base their claim on personal revelation? If someone wanted their religion to be accepted, why wouldn’t they present the strongest, most believable claim possible—i.e. national revelation! It’s far more credible. No one has to take a leap of faith and blindly trust just one person’s word. It is qualitatively better to claim that God came to everyone, telling the entire group that so-and-so is His prophet.

Why would God establish His entire relationship with a nation through one man, without any possibility of verification, and still expect this nation to obediently follow an entire system of instructions, based only on blind faith?

Yet, Judaism is the only religion in the annals of history that makes the best of all claims—that everyone heard God speak. No other religion claims the experience of national revelation. Why?

..................Let’s summarize two primary questions:

1. Out of 15,000 known religions in recorded history, why is Judaism the only one that claims national revelation, the best of all claims? Why do all other religions base themselves on the inherently weak assertion of personal revelation?

2. If Judaism’s claim is indeed an example of a successful hoax that falsely asserts national revelation, the author just got away with passing off the best possible claim, and others will certainly follow suit. Why then would he predict that no one else will ever make a similar claim, a prediction he knows he cannot foresee, and whose outcome is likely to be the exact opposite?

There is one simple answer to both questions. A national revelation—as opposed to personal revelation—is the one lie you cannot get away with. It is one event you cannot fabricate. The only way to make this claim is if it actually happened.

If the claim is true, the people will believe it because they are agreeing to something they already know. Either they personally witnessed it, or their ancestors collectively passed down the account as part of their nation’s accepted history.

If the claim is false, it’s like trying to convince you that God spoke to you or your parents and somehow you never heard of it. No one would ever accept such a claim.

Therefore no other religion has ever made the best of all claims, because it is the one claim that can only be made if it is true. One cannot pass national revelation off as a hoax.

When inventing a religion, the originator must resort to personal revelation, despite its inherent weakness, since it is a claim that is unverifiable. The originator can hope to find adherents willing to take a leap of faith and accept his or her religion. After all, no one can ever know it is a lie. [Of course, no one can know if it’s true either.] This simply cannot work with national revelation since it’s the one claim that everyone will know is a lie.

Only Judaism can claim national revelation since the Jewish people is the only nation in the history of mankind who ever experienced it
.


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Bullshit can't handle pressure.it is like a bluff in a Poker Game............if I am holding an excellent hand I'll see all your bets/raises and then 'call you'.

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There are many other quality Control features in the Bible, but the National Revelation, and Yahshuas/Jesus ministry was Public are significant factors.







Cheers Matey.

cheers

http://www.scottberkun.com/essays/53-how-to-detect-bullshit/ thumbs up




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why don't you explain how the following is 'Elitist' you antisemitic NAZI bitch. thumbs up

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.


The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds.



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Post  true lilly Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:40 am

So much insanity at DIF now, I don't which to pick.

But I did notice something VERY TELLING...


delinquentgrrl wrote:
29-10-2009, 02:15 AM #452
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There seems to be a strong tie between quite a few
Chinese characters and the Bible teaching,
without which it's simply difficult to explain
the component parts that make up the characters.

Some of these words are listed in the following
together with illustration of their ties with the Bible.


Creation is comprised of the following components
dust (breath of) life (from God's) mouth motion = Creation

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Without reading the verse from Genesis 2:7, it's difficult to understand
how Can Ji could come up with this character.

Genesis 2:7 - The Lord formed the man from the dust of the ground
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man
became a living being
.

Forbidden
is comprised of the following components
tree (of knowledge) tree (of life) command (from God) = Forbidden

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Again, the components of the word become meaningful
after reading the following verses.
Genesis 2:16,17 - And the Lord commanded the man,
"You are free to eat from any tree in the garden,
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
for when you eat of it you will certainly die".
Genesis 3:24- After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of
the Garden of Eden Cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth
to guard the way to the tree of life.

And indeed, through the sins of one man (Adam) we are separated from
God; and only by accepting Jesus (flaming sword), can we return to him.

Ship is comprised of the following components

boat eight mouth (family member) = Ship

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The origin of this word becomes more meaningful after reading
the following verse.
Genesis 7:7 - And Noah and his sons [Ham, Shem, and Japheth]
and his wife and his sons' wives with him, went into the ark,
to escape the waters of the flood.


The word 'mouth' is often used to describe number of family members.
For example, the phrase 'One family of four mouths' means a family
with four members.
Four couples in Noah's family have a total of eight members.

Righteousness is to raise a lamb above us

Lamb (above) me = Righteousness

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In the Old Testament people sacrifice lambs for their sins.
In the New Testament, Jesus died for our sins on the STAKE
to give us salvation, for God is just and loving.
The only way to salvation is to accept Jesus who paid for our sins.


LOTS MORE examples in the following links,
but AGAIN, this INSANE TIE to a SHORT,
Earth History Time Line,
BECAUSE, "They"
are working The DECEPTION to INSTALL "Their"
FALSE 'saviour'
:


http://www.cogwriter.com/news/old-te...early-genesis/

Sorry, seems "David Icke" does NOT WANT this read,
so best just copy the address into the address bar.

>http://www.wbschool.org/Chinese.swf<

Whereas this is still the ONLY PLACE that
"corrects" those "Falling away, Back to
Beggarly Ways"
and looks at what HAS
DECEIVED ALL
BUT THE VERY ELECT.

Classic
example of cultural assimilation, it doesn't exactly prove that the Old
testament or God's word is any more "real".
It's not entirely
farfetched because "Jews
and Judaism in China have had a long history. Jewish settlers are
documented in China as early as the 7th or 8th century CE, but may have
arrived during the mid Han Dynasty, or even as early as 231 BCE[1].

Relatively isolated communities developed through the Tang and Song
Dynasties (7-12th cent. CE) all the way through the Qing Dynasty (19th
cent.), most notably in the Kaifeng Jews (the term "Chinese Jews" is
often used in a restricted sense to refer to these communities). "

"It has been asserted by some that the Jews who have historically
resided in various places in China originated with the Lost Ten Tribes
of the exiled ancient Kingdom of Israel who relocated to the areas of
present-day China.
Traces of some ancient Jewish rituals have been observed in some places.

One well-known group was the Kaifeng Jews, who are purported to have
traveled from Persia to India during the mid-Han Dynasty and later
migrated from the Muslim-inhabited regions of northwestern China (modern
day Gansu province) to Henan province during the early Northern Song
Dynasty (960-1127).[8]"


"In The Kaifeng Stone Inscriptions: The Legacy of the Jewish Community
in Ancient China, Tiberiu Weisz, a teacher of Hebrew history and Chinese
religion, presents his own translations of the 1489, 1512, and 1663
stone stelae left by the descendants of the Kaifeng Jews. Based on the
new info gleamed from this translation, Weisz theorizes after the
Babylonian exile of the sixth century BCE, disenchanted Levites and
Kohanim parted with the Prophet Ezra and settled in Northwestern India.
Sometime prior to 108 BCE, these Jews had migrated to Gansu province,
China and were spotted by the Chinese general Li Guang, who was sent to
expand the borders of Han Dynasty China.
Centuries later, the Jews were expelled from China proper during the Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution (845-46), where they lived in the region of Ningxia. Weisz believes they
later returned to China during the Song Dynasty when its second
emperor, Song Taizong, sent out a decree seeking the wisdom of foreign
scholars.[7] "

"The inscription states that the Jews came to China from India during
the Han Dynasty period (2nd century BCE-2nd century CE). It cites the
names of 70 Jews with Chinese surnames, describes their audience with an
unnamed Song Dynasty emperor, and lists the transmission of their
religion from Abraham down to the prophet Ezra. The second tablet,
dating from 1512 (found in the synagogue Xuanzhang Daojing Si) details
their Jewish religious practices. The third, dated 1663, commemorates
the rebuilding of the Qingzhen si synagogue and repeats information that
appears in the other two steles.[7]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Jews_in_China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

Just a thought.

NO, a red herring, INTENDED to discourage readers
going to the link that DIF would NOT ALLOW me
to post THE CONTENT OF, such as THIS KEY POINT:


Chinese characters apparently predate Moses:

…the ancient Chinese people were quite familiar with the
same record which the Hebrew Moses is popularly given credit for

writing some 700 to 1,000 years later. Imagine this information
being stored in special characters that were in use hundreds of years
before the first page of the Bible was written!
(Kang C.H.,
Nelson E.R. The Discovery of Genesis: How the Truths of Genesis Were
Found Hidden in the Chinese Language. Concordia Publishing House, St.
Louis, 1979, p. 5)


Notice that
the development of Chinese characters

predates the writing of the Book of Genesis.

Thus, the Chinese characters seem to provide
an ‘independent’ account that verifies
portions of the accounts in Genesis.


http://www.cogwriter.com/news/old-te...early-genesis/

http://www.wbschool.org/Chinese.swf

Then, 12 hours later...

David Icke's Official Forums
Most users ever online was 8,820,

29-09-2010 at 02:08 PM.


...oh, and the NEXT PAGE Smile Wink :

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=47

is pretty well where
regular, INDEPENDENT readers
found what they needed to
GET and WARN OTHERS OFF,
trusting any BLOODY Thing that
DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS PEDDLE.
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Chinese Characters and Early Genesis

COGwriter

Is there any evidence that Chinese people ever knew about the early
accounts in the Book of Genesis, such as a devil in the Garden of Eden,
the great flood, or the Tower of Babel?

Yes, as some evidence seems to exist in early Chinese writings.

Notice for example that an ancient Chinese character for Devil indicates a knowledge of the account in Genesis:

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Devil= Secret Person Garden

Sadly, Eve seemed to believe the devil as she desired to benefit from the fruit of the tree that was prohibited:

So when the woman saw that
the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree
desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate (Genesis
3:6).

God decided
later to prohibit the second tree lest Eve and others desired it so much
that they would go for it as well (see Genesis 3:22-24).

Notice the symbol for the Chinese word lán for desire or greed is a combination of the symbols for woman and two trees:


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Desire,
Greed
= Woman Trees

After succumbing to temptation, humans noticed that they were naked:

Then
the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were
naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.
(Genesis 3:7).

Notice that the Chinese symbol for being
naked has to do with clothing, one tree (the one that Adam and Eve were
originally told not to eat from perhaps), and a garden with four
irrigation canals:

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Naked= Clothing Tree Garden

After Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden they had children. On of their sons was Abel, who raised and sacrificed sheep:

Now Abel was a
keeper of sheep…Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of
their fat. And the LORD respected Abel and his offering (Genesis 4:2,4).

Notice what a Chinese character meaning righteous is made of:

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Righteous(ness)= Sheep Hand Lance

Interestingly, the New Testament account of Abel refers to:

…the blood of righteous Abel (Matthew 23:35).

Notice how the Chinese symbol agrees with the New
Testament account that essentially the sacrifice of sheep (by Abel, for
example) was righteous.

Since Christ was our Passover lamb sacrificed us, and
that through Him we attain righteousness at least one has speculated
that perhaps that is why the following symbol for righteousness was
somehow chosen (since the combination of the symbol for hand and lance can mean us):

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Righteous(ness)= Sheep I, Us

And while it is NOT likely
that this was determined by the Chinese after Jesus’ crucifixion, it is
a fact that Abel and Noah, who the Bible calls righteous, sacrificed
clean animals such as sheep.

Many know that Chinese
history contains an account of some type of worldwide flood. And there
may be a couple of aspects of it preserved in its characters.

Notice a couple of statements in the Bible concerning the flood:

Then the LORD said to Noah,
“Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that
you are righteous before Me in this generation. (Genesis 7:1).

…in the days of Noah, while
the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were
saved through water (1 Peter 3:20).

A Chinese word chuán for a type of boat is:

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Boat= 8 Mouth Little Boat,
Vessel


It may be of interest to note that one of the Chinese symbols for flood (chong)
is a combination of an inverted symbol meaning “first Earthly branch”
and eight (the term for eight may instead mean “person remaining”"–that
of itself is interesting as that the symbol for eight and “person
remaining” look about the same–recall that on the ark there were only
eight persons remaining alive).

After the flood, humans stayed together and built a tower:

Now the whole earth had one language and
one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. Then
they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them
thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar.
And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose
top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be
scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.” (Genesis 11:1-4).

But God did not care for this:

But the LORD came down to see the city
and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the LORD said,
“Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is
what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be
withheld from them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” (Genesis
11:5-7).

It is highly likely that when people saw
others speaking foreign languages, that they thought that somehow
something at this tower affected their mouths. Notice the following
Chinese symbol of a tower.

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Tower= Grass Clay Mankind 1 Mouth

The tower of Babel was built with bricks
(grass and clay) and humans originally had one language (or mouth). It
is possible that this symbol is showing that the ancient Chinese
recognized a connection to the biblical tower of Babel.

The Bible shows that after God confused the languages in Babel that He scattered humans all over:

So the LORD scattered them abroad from
there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city.
Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the LORD confused the
language of all the earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of all the earth (Genesis 11:8-9).

The Bible also mentions:

To Eber were born two sons: the name of
one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s
name was Joktan (Genesis 10:25).

Now whether it was just
the scattering of humans that occurred in Peleg’s time, or that the
earth had continental divisions at that time is not completely clear.
What is clear, however, is that humans did separate essentially by
language and ethnicity thousands of years ago.

Chinese characters apparently predate Moses:

…the ancient Chinese people were quite familiar with the
same record which the Hebrew Moses is popularly given credit for
writing some 700 to 1,000 years later. Imagine this information
being stored in special characters that were in use hundreds of years
before the first page of the Bible was written!
(Kang C.H.,
Nelson E.R. The Discovery of Genesis: How the Truths of Genesis Were
Found Hidden in the Chinese Language. Concordia Publishing House, St.
Louis, 1979, p. 5)

Notice that the development of Chinese
characters predates the writing of the Book of Genesis. Thus, the
Chinese characters seem to provide an ‘independent’ account that
verifies portions of the accounts in Genesis.

Continuing, the authors of the previous citation go so far as to state:

Moreover we believe that the Chinese actually employed
this historical knowledge as one small facet in the process of building
their written language. The significance of this claim is broad. But
most important, it appears to us to give support and added acceptance of
the much slandered account of Biblical Genesis (Ibid).

Thus, the existence of these Chinese
characters should be a comfort to the Chinese that their ancestors did
have some type of biblical witness. These characters should also help
modern believers understand that even in a land as removed as it is from
the Middle East, the Chinese did know about various portions of the
Genesis account. And since their characters were developed prior to
Moses writing Genesis, their very existence provides additional
verification that the events were known for many thousands of years.

The above information and more is included in the article China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 1: Genesis and Chinese Characters .

Other articles of possibly related interest may include:

China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 2: The Sabbath and Some of God’s Witness in China When did Christianity first come to China? And is there early evidence that they observed the seventh day sabbath?
China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 3: China in Prophecy What is Ahead for China? What will happen to nearly all the Chinese?

Originally Posted by delinquentgrrl
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How is 'Moses leading Israel out of
Egypt' a lie? The Talmud, which includes the Tanakh (and the Torah)
states "According to the Talmud,[2] much of the contents of the Tanakh
were compiled by the "Men of the Great Assembly" by 450 BCE, and have since remained unchanged.

As you know the Tanakh includes the Torah (the 5 books commonly referred to as 'The five books of Moses' = The Old testament.

In the Old Testament it is written that Moses led them from Egypt
,
so how is this a lie if you claim the Old testament is God's word? And
for what purpose? If the Jews were led of out of America what
signifigance does this hold? What truth is being hidden? What does it
all mean? And does the use of a lunar calendar change the nature of the
events?

Just curious. Thanks!


No, Moses led Israel out of MITSRAYIM.
Every time you read Egypt, it IS MITSRAYIM.
'They' decided to CHANGE MITSRAYIM to EGYPT.

Like they CHANGED PERATH to Euphrates.

Now PERATH was ONE of the FOUR Rivers
of THE SUPER-CONTINENT, EDEN AGE.

So, it can NOT be that piddling little Euphrates.

Likewise, every time you read NILE it is RIVER,
Nile CANALS is RIVER CANALS, and THE AMAZON
HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREATER IN LENGTH and VOLUME
than the Nile, curiously a FACT 'they' only recently
ADMITTED, DESPITE LONG HAVING KNOWN.

GOD'S LIVING WORD IS DESCRIPTIVE and DESCRIBES
THE BEGINNING AS IT WAS and SCIENCE AGREES.

To DENY GOD'S WORD is to ALSO DENY what SCIENCE
has finally discovered, and to admit to what science found,
BUT STICK to the LYING TIME-LINE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED
AROUND EGYPT and it's DEATH WORSHIPING RELIGION,
BASED ON, "THE JEWS WHO ARE NOT JEWS, BUT DO LIE,
BUT ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN",
MAKES A "KNOW NOTHING FOOL" OUT OF GOD.


ALSO, 450 BCE, WAS RECENT GLOBAL HISTORY, WELL PAST
THE AGES OF ANCIENT KINDS OF ANIMALS, i.e. 'dinosaurs',
DURING NOAH'S AND JOB'S TIME. NOAH at least living DURING
the AGE of The SUPER-CONTINENT.

God told us to STUDY WHAT IS in the WHOLE WORLD
and let SCRIPTURE INTERPRET SCRIPTURE, NOT MAN,
in order to SEE that HE DID TELL US EVERYTHING FROM
THE BEGINNING.

450 BC is ALREADY AFTER things like CHINA'S GREAT WALL
being constructed to CUT PEOPLE OFF FROM THEIR COMMON
HISTORY and so SEE The TRUTH of GOD'S WORD, and AFTER
the the Middle eastern King called Darius in IMITATION of
THE DARIUS of the DIVIDED IN TWO LAND of
The BIRD of PREY, ANCIENT PERSIA, being The AMERICAS.

The FIRST MODERN image from Wiki's page on
The AZTECS:


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Sculpture commemorating
the moment when
Aztecs found the sign
from the god Huitzilopochtli.


...and funny, but Today's
LEAD IMAGE from MURDOCH'S NEWS...

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SEE, "THEY" have ALWAYS KNOWN and have
CONSPIRED and COLLUDED to KEEP IT SECRET
and so LEAD US TO ACCEPT The BEAST as 'god',
BASED on the RECENT, LYING 'history' of FAKE
'time-lines' LITERALLY CONSTRUCTED to 'support'
MODERN North African Egypt as being the ANCIENT
MITSRAYIM of GOD'S LIVING, TRUE WORD.


Last edited by vera susa; 30-10-2009 at 01:19 AM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathanstaar
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Vera I hope you did not regard my last post as anything negative toward you (or faraday for that matter)

It was actually to point out something about warnings of 'being led astray' that many often like to warn about.

A declaration of my spiritual independence if you will.


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QUESTIONS ARE GOOD!

QUESTIONS ARE WHAT PREVENTED ME
FROM BUYING INTO THE UNIVERSAL (Catholic)
CHURCH I WAS RAISED IN.

QUESTIONS had me GET MY PRIEST TO ACCEPT
that I WOULD NOT MARRY, PROMISING MY CHILDREN
TO "The CATHOLIC CHURCH" but PROMISE to TEACH
THEM to KEEP THE FIRST COMMANDMENT, FIRST,
and ALWAYS SEEK GOD'S TRUTH and WILL ABOVE MAN'S.

I only get angry when UNKNOWN "names" LIE
that I'm lying and have a "Secret Agenda", when
"They" KNOW THE OPPOSITE to be TRUE.

And I Only Wish, more readers would
QUESTION my OPPONENTS
as DEEPLY as I'm always questioned,
so I could get on with REVEALING MORE
of what HAS been HIDDEN and LIED about. 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Wink

And while TALKING WITH YOU let me also explain,
that I will take all names as real, independent people,
and treat them as such unless and until I KNOW otherwise.

Which also means that though I OFTEN SUSPECT a 'name'
of pretending to be friendly, "I" can't publicly "Out" 'them'
if I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW, but will TEST 'them' by posting
on a TACTIC 'they' are using and let 'them' OUT THEMSELVES
in 'their' VIOLENT, OVER REACTIONS to a GENERAL topic
'they' DO RECOGNIZE as PERSONALLY DESCRIPTIVE.

Which brings me to a KEY REQUEST I make of ALL:

IF THE JACK BOOT FITS,
EVEN IF IT'S YOURS,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR IT!

YOU CAN CHOOSE to THROW IT OUT
RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO
KICK THE HEADS OF THE INNOCENT,
WEAK, ALONE and POWERLESS.



...So, do you WANT to find
THE
KEY of DAVID?


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...and THOUSANDS of Years of 'art'=PROPAGANDA
SELLING FALSE HISTORIES, that PREVENTS folk
from SEEING WHERE WE ARE AT, IN THE ACTUAL
TIME LINE of THE CREATOR GOD...


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Post  MoMo Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:57 am

el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.

Lilly, your post is proof that you have eyes yet you are blind and do not see. Had you bothered to read and comprehend my Post you would 'see that it is a Public Revelation, not private like your bullshit. thumbs up


Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure. thumbs up

[size=24]#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake. thumbs up


What support is there for the claim that God spoke to all the Jewish people at the foot of Mount Sinai?


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/start-of-judaism/

The Torah claims that the entire Jewish nation heard God speak at Sinai, an assertion that has been accepted as part of their nation’s history for over 3,000 years................Two types of stories are part of any national heritage.

The first kind is legends. Included in this category is George Washington’s admission to chopping down the cherry tree, along with his statement, “I cannot tell a lie.” Johnny Appleseed planting apple trees across America with his discarded apple cores is another legend
..........................................What is the difference between legend and history?

A legend is an unverified story. By their very nature legends are unverifiable because they have very few eyewitnesses. Perhaps little George did chop down the cherry tree. We can’t know if it happened. This does not mean that the legend is necessarily false, only that it is unverifiable. No one thinks legends are facts, therefore they are not accepted as reliable history.

History, however, is comprised of events we know actually happened. It is reliable because we can determine if the claimed event is true or false through a number of ways. One key to verification is the assertion that large numbers of eyewitnesses observed the specific event
.....................................SINAI: AN IMPOSSIBLE HOAX

So far we have seen two types of claims—one is unverifiable and the other is inherently false.

Could the revelation at Sinai have been a brilliant hoax, duping millions of people into believing that God spoke to them?
....................SINAI: THE ONLY CLAIM OF NATIONAL REVELATION

Throughout history, tens of thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that God spoke to him or her. All religions that base themselves on some type of revelation share essentially the same beginning: a holy person goes into solitude, comes back to his people, and announces that he has experienced a personal revelation where God appointed him to be His prophet.

Would you believe someone who claims to have received a personal communication from God appointing him or her as God’s new prophet?

Maybe He did. Then again, maybe He didn’t. One can never know. The claim is inherently unverifiable.

Personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion since one can never know if it is indeed true. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy................................There are 15,000 known religions in all of recorded history. Given this inherent weakness, why do all of them base their claim on personal revelation? If someone wanted their religion to be accepted, why wouldn’t they present the strongest, most believable claim possible—i.e. national revelation! It’s far more credible. No one has to take a leap of faith and blindly trust just one person’s word. It is qualitatively better to claim that God came to everyone, telling the entire group that so-and-so is His prophet.

Why would God establish His entire relationship with a nation through one man, without any possibility of verification, and still expect this nation to obediently follow an entire system of instructions, based only on blind faith?

Yet, Judaism is the only religion in the annals of history that makes the best of all claims—that everyone heard God speak. No other religion claims the experience of national revelation. Why?

..................Let’s summarize two primary questions:

1. Out of 15,000 known religions in recorded history, why is Judaism the only one that claims national revelation, the best of all claims? Why do all other religions base themselves on the inherently weak assertion of personal revelation?

2. If Judaism’s claim is indeed an example of a successful hoax that falsely asserts national revelation, the author just got away with passing off the best possible claim, and others will certainly follow suit. Why then would he predict that no one else will ever make a similar claim, a prediction he knows he cannot foresee, and whose outcome is likely to be the exact opposite?

There is one simple answer to both questions. A national revelation—as opposed to personal revelation—is the one lie you cannot get away with. It is one event you cannot fabricate. The only way to make this claim is if it actually happened.

If the claim is true, the people will believe it because they are agreeing to something they already know. Either they personally witnessed it, or their ancestors collectively passed down the account as part of their nation’s accepted history.

If the claim is false, it’s like trying to convince you that God spoke to you or your parents and somehow you never heard of it. No one would ever accept such a claim.

Therefore no other religion has ever made the best of all claims, because it is the one claim that can only be made if it is true. One cannot pass national revelation off as a hoax.

When inventing a religion, the originator must resort to personal revelation, despite its inherent weakness, since it is a claim that is unverifiable. The originator can hope to find adherents willing to take a leap of faith and accept his or her religion. After all, no one can ever know it is a lie. [Of course, no one can know if it’s true either.] This simply cannot work with national revelation since it’s the one claim that everyone will know is a lie.

Only Judaism can claim national revelation since the Jewish people is the only nation in the history of mankind who ever experienced it
.


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Bullshit can't handle pressure.it is like a bluff in a Poker Game............if I am holding an excellent hand I'll see all your bets/raises and then 'call you'.

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There are many other quality Control features in the Bible, but the National Revelation, and Yahshuas/Jesus ministry was Public are significant factors.







Cheers Matey.

cheers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY


lissen up you ignorant bitch, your Avatar is a deception-you only placed a partial map of europe over the map of Australia. thumbs up

TORAH FOR ALL ISRAELITE NATIONSBy Rabbi/Brother Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky
http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/26.php

THE PROMISE TO END SLAVERY thumbs up
In Bereshith 15:13 Yahuwah prophesies to Avraham that his seed will be strangers in a strange land for 400 years. We learn that the nation enslaving them would be judged, while Abraham’s children would make an exodus with great wealth. Yahuwah uses the 400 years as a general time frame even tough the actual time of slavery was 430 years. In Bereshith 46:4 Yahuwah tells Israel/Yakkov to go down to Mitzrayim in order that Yahuwah can bring to pass the patriarchal promise of physical multiplicity, while Yahuwah promises to be with Yisrael in Mitzrayim. When Yahuwah is with you, no one can be against you or His plan for your life. Yahuwah also promises to return Israel to Canaan, when He brings them up again from Mitzrayim. This promise is confirmed to Yisrael in Bereshith 28:15.

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Yisrael was to be set-apart by their prophesied exodus from Egypt, and in order to seal their set-apartness from all nations, they were to be given a Torah or a set of loving instructions. According to Devarim/Deut. 4:6, all nations would then see that “only a wise (spiritual), and understanding people was this GREAT (physical) nation. Israel was brought forth, and set-apart to shine before men. In like manner Yahshua renewed that call in Matityahu 5:13-14. Torah would become their wisdom after the presentation of Torah to Yisrael on Horeb. When Israel obeys Yahuwah’s ways, all nations will confess our greatness, and our favor before man and Yahuwah. On Sinai/Horeb Yahuwah betrothed Himself to Yisrael. This betrothal is called an eruzin. It is a pledge unto consummation rather than a consummation act itself. In Tehillim 138:4 the Devar Yahuwah calls on all the earth’s kings, and rulers to give thanks to Yahuwah for His Torah being given to national Israel. The exodus was not merely to remove Israel from bondage but to allow all nations, and all kings of all nations to hear the Words of Yahuwah known as Torah. Our sages have taught us that at first Yahuwah revealed, and offered his chesed/grace to the sons of Esau/Edom, as it is written in Devarim 33:2. But they rejected Yahuwah, even though He rose up first to offer Torah to Esau. However Esau rejected the Torah from Sinai, when Yahuwah “rose in Seir” only to be denied. Then Yahuwah offered the Torah to the rest of the sons of Ishmael symbolized by Mt. Paran, who according to Devarim 33:2-3, also rejected the “shining forth” of Torah from Sinai, even though the manifestation of fire accompanied it, along with myriads of melachim/angels!

“HEBREW-NATIONAL” ADAM

When Edom and Ishmael rejected the Torah, Yahuwah then turned to His second son, the second Adam or national Adam. That, among a myriad of other reasons is why most of the modern Arabs hate Israel, (both houses) since they rejected the true Word of Yahuwah, which Israel later accepted. Ultimately the Arabs adopted the false words of a man made deity called Allah. Not only do Edomites hate Israel for accepting the living oracles, they also hate Israel (Jews and most Christians) for having accepted the “living Torah”, the Messiah Yahshua Himself. Today’s Muslims have once again rejected the living Torah, (true biblical Yahshua as Yahuwah’s ONLY brought forth SON!) as their Edomite and Ishmaelite forefathers rejected the living oracles shining forth from Sinai. Even today Muslims claim that Gabriel gave the latter revelation of the Koran, to Mohammed in large part to CORRECT THE ERRORS OF TORAH that the Jews and Christians added when they corrupted the Torah’s truth! Nothing much has changed in the last 3,500 years.........................

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From FULL RESTORATION OF ALL ISRAEL series
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Full Restoration Of Israel!
Part I of a Series


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In Genesis 13:14-16 Yahuwah our Heavenly Father promised Abram the land of Canaan as well as a promise of physical multiplicity of his zera or his seed (sperm). Abram was told that this promise of physical multiplicity will be so vast and so extensive that the entire earth will literally be full of his zera. Verse 16 reminds us that at the time that this promise is literally and physically brought to pass it will be absolutely impossible for mankind to even count it, or in any way census it, since mankind is totally impotent and unable to count the dust of the earth. This promise is straightforward, needing absolutely no interpretation or explanation. That same seed will inherit the land eventually to be known as Israel.

In Genesis 15 verses 1-6 we see Abram willing to help Yahuwah fulfill the promise of Genesis 13 by prematurely and incorrectly choosing Eliezer, a Gentile, who is not a physical offspring of Abram's own sperm or zera, to be the one through whom that promise would be brought to pass. However Yahuwah rebukes Abram and makes it clear to him that His promise of physical multiplicity that would become a number that man would not be able to number would not come through an adopted Gentile or a second class choice. No! Our Heavenly Father ordained that this promised heir would come from Abram's own body. He would not be adopted but he would be a physical descendent of Abram. It is through this physical descendent that Yahuwah once again promises Abram that his physical offspring will be more than the stars of Heaven. Obviously through modern science we know that our solar system has billions of stars and of course that other solar systems have many more billions. These stars in totality produce a number that mankind cannot even fathom. Yahuwah challenges Abram's lack of ability in counting the stars with the words "if you can" in verse five. It is because of Abram's pure faith and trust in Yahuwah that he receives imputed righteousness as a result of his believing and trusting in Yahuwah's promise. Notice there is only one promise not many promises. Abram was declared righteous by faith in Yahuwah's one promise. Whoever this physical seed would turn out to be it would literally have to be more than the dust particles of the sea and the visible stars of heaven. This promise must be taken extremely and solely on a literal face value. Any tendency to somehow spiritualize this promise is a lack of faith in Yahuwah's literal Word. That would be the very opposite of the faith of Abram himself.

This promise of physical multiplicity and blessing is renewed in Genesis 17 verse 4 where Abram is told that this promise will establish him as a father of many nations or "hamon goyim". This term "hamon goyim" is also found in verse 5 and literally means a noisy multitude of Gentile nations. This physical seed that will literally fill the globe will not be a silent group of religious folks, rather they will be a great and noisy multitude making a great noise and tumult about Yahuwah and His gospel love for humanity. Verse 6 of Genesis 17 promises Abraham that through this seed of promise, kings would be manifest. This of course is talking about the kings that would one day make up the royal House of David through whom Messiah would come to His throne. In verse 7 Yahuwah reassures Abraham that this promise of greatness through physical multiplicity would be unconditional and everlasting...................

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...............................lilly, you are promoting one of the sickest, must deranged and repugnant doctrines.

Church Replacement Theology...........you call it 'Spiritual Israel'. That is a lie, deceit, fraud.
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'Spiritual Israel' is any Gentile who accepts and agrees that YHWH has Blessed Abraham and his progeny with an Eternal Covenant blessing them and the ownership of Canaan/Israel for eternity.

Definition

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Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”

Perhaps Martin Luther articulated this position most eloquently when he wrote: “For such ruthless wrath of God is sufficient evidence that they [i.e., the Jewish people] assuredly have erred and gone astray. Even a child can comprehend this. For one dare not regard God as so cruel that he would punish his own people so long, so terrible, so unmercifully … Therefore this work of wrath is proof that the Jews, surely rejected by God, are no longer his people, and neither is he any longer their God” (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], p. 265).

Common threads that weave their way through the numerous variations of supersessionism are (1) that God is finished with Israel as a nation, and (2) that the promises He made to Israel in the Old Testament have been inherited by the Church. (However, most Replacement theologians are reluctant to say that the Church - which is largely in apostasy today - has also inherited the curses and judgments that God pronounced on Israel for her apostasy.)

One defender of Replacement Theology writes: “The Jewish nation no longer has a place as the special people of God; that place has been taken by the Christian community which fulfills God’s purpose for Israel” (Bruce Waltke, “Kingdom Promises as Spiritual,” in Continuity and Discontinuity: Perspectives on the Relationship Between the Testaments, Ed. John S. Feinberg [Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 1987] p. 275). This is how one evangelical theologian summarized the essence of supersessionism in a paper he presented at the Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting a few years ago: “The issue is whether national Israel as an administrative structure is still in the plan of God” (“A Future for Israel in Covenant Theology: The Untold Story” by R. Todd Mangum, Instructor in Historical and Systematic Theology at Biblical Theological Seminary in Hatfield, Pennsylvania [November 16, 2000], p. 20.

Theological Basis

Replacement Theology is closely associated with Reformed (or Covenant) Theology, the brand of theology historically linked to John Calvin (1509-1564) and the Protestant Reformation. Reformed/Covenant Theology, in turn, is closely associated with amillennialism, an eschatological view with a spiritualized (rather than literal-historical) interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures. The natural affinity these views (that is, Replacement Theology and amillennialism) seem to have for each other is understandable because Replacement Theology relies so heavily on a non-literal and allegorical interpretation of the biblical promises to Israel.

Although many of the early Reformers and Puritans - including even Calvin himself - wrote about the nation of Israel one day being restored by the grace of God and experiencing a national regeneration, that is an increasingly marginalized, minority view in Reformed Christianity today (which is ironic, since we have seen the amazing rebirth of the nation of Israel, just as the Word of God predicted!). And even among those who allow for an end-time work of the Spirit of God among the Jewish people, there is still a reluctance to acknowledge that God is not finished with His people Israel as a nation, or to acknowledge the prospect of a future Kingdom on the Earth.

This view stands in contrast to the teachings of Dispensational Premillennialism, which affirms the continuing role that Israel plays (in tandem with the Church) in the outworking of God’s plan of redemption.

Historical Roots

Elements of Replacement Theology can be traced as far back as Marcion (A.D. 160), who carried on a theological crusade to purge the Church of what he perceived to be dangerous Jewish errors and influences. Later, many of these same anti-Judaic sentiments found their way into the thinking (and writings) of the Early Church fathers. Irenaeus (c. 180), for instance, wrote, “The Jews have rejected the Son of God and cast Him out of the vineyard when they slew Him. Therefore, God has justly rejected them and has given to the Gentiles outside the vineyard the fruits of its cultivation” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Ed. Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, [1885-1887], Volume 1, p. 493).

Over time, statements like these became the basis for full-blown anti-Semitism in some sectors of Christianity. Anything Jewish was renounced as an attempt to subvert and “Judaize” the Church. Teachings like chiliasm (millenarianism), for instance, were denounced as “Jewish fables.” The Early Church, which was clearly and undeniably Jewish, was described as “primitive,” unenlightened, and beset by erroneous notions that were carry-overs from ancient Judaism.

By the seventh century, Jewish people who came to faith in the Messiah were required to denounce their Jewish ancestry and heritage before they could be baptized. Professor Paul Halsall of Fordham University cites the following Visigoth profession from c. A.D. 680-687: “I do here and now renounce every rite and observance of the Jewish religion, detesting all its most solemn ceremonies and tenets that in former days I kept and held. In future I will practice no rite or celebration connected with it, nor any custom of my past error, promising neither to seek it out or perform it. In the name of this Creed, which I truly believe and hold with all my heart, I promise that I will never return to the vomit of Jewish superstition. Never again will I fulfill any of the offices of Jewish ceremonies to which I was addicted, nor ever more hold them dear. I altogether deny and reject the errors of the Jewish religion, casting forth whatever conflicts with the Christian Faith, and affirming that my belief in the Holy Trinity is strong enough to make me live the truly Christian life, shun all intercourse with other Jews and have the circle of my friends only among honest Christians. With them or apart from them I must always eat Christian food, and as a genuinely devout Christian go often and reverently to Church. I promise also to maintain and embrace with due love and reverence the observance of all the Lord’s days or feasts for martyrs as declared by the piety of the Church, and upon those days to consort always with sincere Christians, as it behooves a pious and sincere Christian to do. Herewith is my profession of faith and belief as given by me on this date …” (“Professions of Faith Extracted from Jews on Baptism,’ from the Internet Medieval Sourcebook compiled by Professor Paul Halsall of Fordham University [www.fordham.edu/halsall/sources/jewish-oaths.html]).

The incredible irony here is that only a few centuries earlier, the Church had been almost exclusively Jewish! The Messiah was Jewish; the writers of the Bible were Jewish; the apostles were Jewish; the earliest Christians were Jewish; the first congregation was Jewish (located in Jerusalem); and the first missionaries were Jewish!

In fact, a council of Church leaders - including Paul, Barnabas, Peter and James - was convened at Jerusalem (Acts 15) so the leaders of the new and growing Messianic Movement (known first as “the sect of the Nazarenes,” Acts 24:5) could decide upon what conditions non-Jews would be admitted into the fellowship of the saints! But here, within just a few generations, the shoe was already on the other foot! Non-Jews were in control of the Church now. Jewish doctrines (the earthly Kingdom in particular) were considered erroneous and even seditious. And non-Jewish Church leaders were laying down the terms for Jewish believers in Jesus who wished to be baptized.

Exegetical Problems with Supersessionism

Did the sins of the Jewish nation result in her rejection? Paul’s answer is found in Romans 11: I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom He foreknew (vv. 1-2, NKJV). I say then, have they [Israel] stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! (vv. 11-12, NKJV). For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (v. 15, NKJV).

If the Jewish nation has no future in God’s plan, as the supersessionists claim, then what is the future “fullness” of Israel that Paul mentions in verse 12? And when, exactly, will the nation be resurrected (“life from the dead”) and “accepted” by God (verse 15)? Paul can’t be talking about the Church in this passage because the Church has never died - and never will (John 11:26). The only reasonable answer is that Paul is referring to a yet-future resurrection and restoration of Am Israel (the “people of Israel,” a collective term for the nation), as prophesied in passages like Ezekiel 37:1-14. It doesn’t mean they will automatically be saved simply because they are Jewish; rather, it means that the majority of Jewish people who are living at that time will recognize Yeshua of Nazareth as their Messiah and receive Him as Savior (Zechariah 12:10, Romans 11:26).

They will be saved in the same way believers from all ages and generations have been saved; that is, they will be saved by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-10). The problem with saying that God rejected His people Israel is that the term “rejection” implies permanence and finality. Paul’s forceful statements in Romans 11 probably indicate that people were claiming, even in his day, that God had “cast away” His people Israel (v. 1). They were saying that Israel had “stumbled’ and “fallen” from her former position (vv. 11-12). Paul rejected any such notion (“Certainly not!” in verses 1 and 11). Then he goes on to say that even if we insist on saying that they were rejected, then we are forced to the conclusion that the rejection is only temporary. Even if we insist on saying that they did stumble and fall, then it must also be said that their fall brought salvation to the rest of the world (Gentiles) - and Israel’s fall, too, is only temporary because they are destined to be restored one day to a position of “fullness” (v. 12).

The “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom. 11:25) refers to the time when the full number of non-Jewish believers has been added to the ranks of the Church and the last person has been saved. Likewise, the “fullness” of the Jewish people (v. 12) refers to the time when “all Israel shall be saved” (v. 26). As we saw earlier, that means the Jewish people en masse will recognize and receive their Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. There may be some dissenters - and their probably will be - but the Holy Spirit of God will do a powerful work among the Jewish people, and multitudes of them - the vast majority of them - will come to faith in the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth.

The truth is that God is no more finished with Israel than He is finished with the Gentiles. Neither one has been replaced by the other; and God’s plan for both remains intact, in spite of their failures. This is really the crux of the issue. Replacement Theology says that Israel was rejected by God and that the rejection was permanent and irrevocable; however, we say that God’s calling on Israel was permanent and irrevocable, in spite of her many sins and shortcomings (Romans 11:29)

What Did the Apostles Believe About the Millennium?

Another problem for supersessionism and amillennialism is that these views are not in harmony with the teachings of the Apostles and the Early Church. Almost without exception, Church historians agree that chiliasm, an early form of premillennialism, was the position of the Early (Jewish) Church. In his classic, encyclopedic History of the Christian Church, Philip Schaff wrote, “The most striking point in the eschatology of the ante-Nicene Age [A.D. 100-325] is the prominent chiliasm, or millenarianism, … a widely current opinion of distinguished teachers, such as Barnabas, Papias, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Methodius, and Lactantius …” (Scribner, 1884; Vol. 2, p. 614).

What’s interesting about this admission is that it comes from someone who was neither evangelical nor premillennial. Schaff, in fact, was himself an ardent supersessionist! He wrote, “The carnal Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament is a diabolical perversion. The Christians, and not the Jews, are the true Israel of God and the righteous owners of the Old Testament Scriptures” (Ibid., Sec. 167, “Barnabas”). Yet as a student of history and as a scholar, he had to acknowledge that chiliasm was “prominent” in the Early Church, even though he himself despised it.

It should be noted that Papias (who believed in a future, earthly Kingdom) was a disciple of Polycarp, who in turn was a disciple of the Apostle John who actually penned the passages in the Book of Revelation about the Millennial Kingdom. Premillennialism, then, may be the only eschatological system with an unbroken link directly to the author of the Apocalypse. This means that amillennialism represents a departure from what the Early Church believed. Augustine (354-430), author of City of God, a 22-volume defense of his theological views, proposed ideas similar to what we know as amillennialism (Books 15 to 19). However, even Augustine started out as a premillennialist! It wasn’t until later in his life that he decided that the prophecies about (and promises to) Israel should be interpreted symbolically and applied to the Church, rather than being interpreted literally and applied to Israel.

The Sticking Point: Messiah’s Millennial Monarchy

Evangelicals have been busy for years trying to hammer out an understanding between premillennial dispensationalists and adherents of Reformed/Covenant Theology. Dispensationalists who have been actively pursuing this agenda (and making concessions to the opposing view) are known as “progressive dispensationalists.” The one point, however, that continues to be a fly in the ointment of reconciliation is the Millennial Kingdom. Even Covenant theologians who allow for an end-time mass conversion of the Jewish people still have difficulty accepting Israel’s role in a future, literal Kingdom on the Earth. This shows just how diverse amillennialism and premillennialism are and how difficult it is to bridge the gap between them without seriously compromising one or the other.

Why Is This Error Dangerous?

Is Replacement Theology really worth arguing about? Or is this discussion much ado about nothing? One reason it’s important to call attention to questionable theology, no matter how deeply entrenched it may be in traditional Christianity is that sooner or later, bad theology always leads to bad practice - and in this case, it already has! Replacement Theology has provided the basis for all sorts of mischief, persecution, and atrocities against the Jewish people throughout Christian history.

For example, Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant Reformation, was a supersessionist. Near the end of his life, he said that synagogues and Jewish schools should be burned to the ground, Jewish people run out of their homes, their prayer books and Talmudic writings burned, and the rabbis forbidden to preach or teach on penalty of death (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], pp. 268-271). Luther also declared that Jewish people in Germany should be confined to their own homes and neighborhoods - a plan the Nazis implemented literally when they quarantined Jewish families in ghettos in Poland and other places before shipping them to the death camps for extermination. One historian writes: It is difficult to understand the behavior of most German Protestants in the first Nazi years unless one is aware of two things: their history and the influence of Martin Luther. The great founder of Protestantism was both a passionate anti-Semite and a ferocious believer in absolute obedience to political authority. He wanted Germany rid of the Jews. Luther’s advice was literally followed four centuries later by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler (William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich [New York: Simon & Shuster, 1960], p. 236).

No one is suggesting that anyone who believes in Replacement Theology is an anti-Semite or would agree with Luther’s statements. That would be an unfair characterization - and it certainly is not the case. It is important, nevertheless, to examine the implications and ramifications of any position, including Replacement Theology: and it is an incontestable fact that ideas similar to those of Replacement Theology have inspired some horrible atrocities against the Jewish people.

We’re Making Progress!

As we observed earlier, the term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new, and is generally avoided by adherents of supersessionism. As far as they are concerned, they’re simply espousing traditional theology - and in a sense, they are! Supersessionist ideas have been widely accepted in mainstream Christianity since the third century or so, as mainstream Christianity was gradually losing its original Jewish character. The Gentile powers-that-be in early institutional (Eastern and Western) Christianity wanted to distance themselves from Christianity’s Jewish origins. And they did!

The good new is that slowly but surely we’re making progress in our battle against Replacement Theology. Everywhere we go, all over the world, (even Arab countries!), we find believers who acknowledge Israel’s unique and ongoing place in God’s plan of the ages, and who are anxiously awaiting that Golden Age when, for the first time, “they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the Earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isa. 11:9).

Most Baptists today are premillennial (except for the most liberal Baptist denominations), as are many Bible churches, particularly those associated with IFCA (Independent Fundamental Churches of America) International and similar groups of independent churches. There are even premillennial Presbyterians! Our ranks are growing with every day that passes. Much of the opposition comes from the more liberal, mainline denominations and their seminaries. And it’s not merely coincidental that these are the same churches and institutions that are aligned with the anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian World and National Councils of Churches.

If you’d like to know if your church leaders believe in Replacement Theology, ask them! If they are not familiar with the term, be patient because it’s entirely possible that they have never heard it before, even if they attended seminary. Also, it’s not likely that they’ve ever knowingly aligned themselves with any view that’s anti-Semitic, anti-Judaic or anti-Israel. This may all be new to them! Ask them, very humbly and sincerely, if they believe that God rejected Israel when Israel rejected His Son in the first century and that as a result, He has no future plan or purpose for the Jewish nation. They may reply that yes, of course, Jewish people can be saved and join the Church - and to them, that means God has a plan for the Jewish people. However, that’s not what we’re asking. We want to know if they believe that God is no longer dealing with the Jewish nation - and don’t be surprised if the answer, ultimately, is in the affirmative. After all, as we saw earlier, this has been the predominant view of mainstream Christianity for centuries - roughly since the time of Augustine, in fact. Sadly, this view has become normative in much of the Church, including many denominations and their seminaries.

Let’s not be afraid to challenge theological tradition when it’s wrong. It’s our responsibility to proclaim and defend the premillennial hope of the Church - and the nation of Israel - in these days of widespread error and apostasy. We should encourage our premillennial Bible colleges and seminaries to take a stand on Replacement Theology and challenge them to produce graduates who are knowledgeable about the historical and theological issues Replacement Theology encompasses. There’s a lot we can do, and we should be doing all we can!



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Post  true lilly Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:25 am

HACK AWAY...
I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food...
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true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

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What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 832261"

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone. Rolling Eyes


And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.


PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau

1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”


29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...


The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!


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...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...


1 Chronicles - Chapter 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips
(and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me
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is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life...
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...mind you, JACOB WAS, A BREEDER of CHAMPIONS...
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Post  true lilly Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:19 pm

See, people don't bother finding and reading my posts
(in all the places I've been chased from and to), to get off,
on personal attacks against my person, but to see, read, consider
and look into the information I provide, that no one else dare...


Billy Ruben wrote:I was hoping you'd have a laugh Lilly,you get so
much attention,and you're a severely non touch play around type
girl.That picture El Kabong posted definitely was'nt you,I mean,you
describe yourself as a little old lady,...You're only 50-51...Have you
heard of hot milf...No,I spose you have'nt...

Hmmmmmm,or was he
refering to a picture you used as a fund raiser and was pissed off to
find you were'nt the advertised material...?

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no, I don't take up the offers...and..."I" am NOT The Topic...

...THIS IS...

true lilly wrote:
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And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?

That's sad to me.

But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.

Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.


REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.


ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.

7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].

10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’

15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”

17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.

23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word
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cori wrote:
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The friggon freemasons own this planet.

I'm just not the Godloving type.
That's why,
(unlike GOD'S FAITHFUL,
HIDDEN amongst those
YOU SO BITTERLY ENVY)
,
YOU ARE the
DEATH LOVING type
who HATES,

WISDOM and LIFE.


Psalms 5:1-12
To the director for Ne´hi·loth.
A melody of David.

1
To my sayings do give ear, O Jehovah;
Do understand my sighing.

2
Do pay attention to the sound of my cry for help,
O my King and my God, because to you I pray.

3
O Jehovah, in the morning you will hear my voice;
In the morning I shall address myself to you and be on the watch.

4
For you are not a God taking delight in wickedness;
No one bad may reside for any time with you.

5
No boasters may take their stand in front of your eyes.
You do hate all those practicing what is hurtful;

6
You will destroy those speaking a lie.
A man of bloodshed and deception Jehovah detests.

7
As for me, in the abundance of your loving-kindness
I shall come into your house,
I shall bow down toward your holy temple in fear of you.

8
O Jehovah, lead me in your righteousness by reason of my foes;
Make your way smooth before me.

9
For in their mouth there is nothing trustworthy;
Their inward part is adversity indeed.
Their throat is an opened burial place;
A smooth tongue they use.

10
God will certainly hold them guilty;
They will fall due to their own counsels.
In the multitude of their transgressions let there be a dispersing of them,
Because they have rebelled against you.

11
But all those taking refuge in you will rejoice;
To time indefinite they will cry out joyfully.

And you will block approach to them,
And those loving your name will exult in you.

12
For you yourself will bless anyone righteous, O Jehovah;
As with a large shield, with approval you will surround them.

...read on:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 1 & 2
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
The proverbs of Sol´o·mon the son of David, the king of Israel,
2
for one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding,
3
to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness,
4
to give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man knowledge and thinking ability.

5
A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man
of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction,
6to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7
The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.

8
Listen, my son, to the discipline of your father, and do not forsake the law of your mother.
9
For they are a wreath of attractiveness to your head and a fine necklace to your throat.

10
My son, if sinners try to seduce you, do not consent.
11
If they keep saying: “Do go with us. Do let us
lie in ambush for blood. Do let us lie in concealment for the innocent
men without any cause.
12
Let us swallow them down alive just like She´ol, even whole, like those going down into a pit.
13
Let us find all sorts of precious valuables. Let us fill our houses with spoil.
14
Your lot you ought to cast in among us. Let there come to be just one bag belonging to all of us”—
15
my son, do not go in the way with them. Hold back your foot from their roadway.
16
For their feet are those that run to sheer badness, and they keep hastening to shed blood. 17
For it is for nothing that the net is spread before the eyes of anything owning wings.
18
Consequently they themselves lie in ambush for the very blood of these; they lie in concealment for their souls.
19
Thus are the paths of everyone making unjust profit. It takes away the very soul of its owners.

20
True wisdom itself keeps crying aloud in the very street. In the public squares it keeps giving forth its voice.
21
At the upper end of the noisy streets it calls out. At the entrances of the gates into the city it says its own sayings:

22
“How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience,
and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright
ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge?
23
Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.

24
Because I have called out but YOU keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention,
25
and YOU keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof YOU have not accepted,
26
I also, for my part, shall laugh at YOUR own disaster, I shall mock when what YOU dread comes,
27
when what YOU dread comes just like a storm, and YOUR own
disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times
come upon YOU.
28
At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer;
they will keep looking for me, but they will not find me,
29
for the reason that they hated knowledge, and the fear of Jehovah they did not choose.
30
They did not consent to my counsel; they disrespected all my reproof.
31
So they will eat from the fruitage of their way, and they will be glutted with their own counsels.
32
For the renegading of the inexperienced ones is
what will kill them, and the easygoingness of the stupid is what will
destroy them.
33
As for the one listening to me, he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”


http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself,
2
so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment;
3
if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself,
4
if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it,
5
in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God.

6
For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
7
And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield,
8
by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones.
9
In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.

10
When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul,
11
thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you,
12
to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things,
13
from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness,
14
from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness; 15
those whose paths are crooked and who are devious in their general course;
16
to deliver you from the strange woman, from the foreign woman who has made her own sayings smooth,
17
who is leaving the confidential friend of her youth and who has forgotten the very covenant of her God.
18
For down to death her house does sink and down to those impotent in death her tracks.
19
None of those having relations with her will come back, nor will they regain the paths of those living.

20
The purpose is that you may walk in the way of good people and that the paths of the righteous ones you may keep.
21
For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
22
As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth;
and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.


PSALMS 119: 85 to 128

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85

PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.


...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,

may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...

NEHEMIAH 1, 2
& 3

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV


ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 4: 18, 19

But the path 734 of the just 6662
[is] as the shining 5051 light 216,
that shineth 215 more 1980 and
more unto the perfect 3559 day 3117.
The way 1870 of the wicked 7563
[is] as darkness 653:
they know 3045 not
at what they stumble 3782 .

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=18&t=KJV#top

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PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...

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and yet, Australia remains the Runt Continent,.....................................................................................................................................Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity



As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.



Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
..................................................All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

1: Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.
For that is the purpose of making the covenant
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Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.
To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.
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Post  MoMo Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:55 pm

Lilly, Queen of Bullshit of the Runt Continent of Australia!!!! Ahoy!!!!

Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
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The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.

Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%

Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background

Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.

This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.

Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis

Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.

If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.

Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.

This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.


49c: Cinderella, part 3:


The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.

Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.

Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).

We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.

Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.

Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.

Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."


49d: Cinderella, part 4:

Exile and Redemption

The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.

Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:

"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)

This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"

"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)

Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,

"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)

Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.

We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.

The Dry Bones

Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.

"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."

A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:

"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"

Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.

Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:

Exile and Redemption


I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.

We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,

"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."

This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.

The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when

"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)

A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.

"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)

Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.

And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."

The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.

Cinderella and her sisters

Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.

Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.


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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:55 am

IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.

Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do Wink Smile),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,

cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,

you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &..
Rolling Eyes ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.


P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.


P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
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i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong,
Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, ♥️WW♥️, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus,
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Post  MoMo Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:57 pm

true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" Lucid, and incisive insights and truth there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION. rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin

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Post  Billy Ruben Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:16 pm

...there's something about this breed of cat...

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Post  Billy Ruben Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:19 am

true lilly wrote:Gee, I wonder why
"tintin's" thread HAS LOST SO MANY READERS...

...and isn't this "supposed" to be,
"The ANTI-DAVID ICKE SITE"...
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EVEN IF THAT WAS TRUE,WHICH IT ISN'T,IT'S YOU WHO LOST THE READERS,THAT'S WHY YOU BITCHED SO LONG ABOUT GETTING BACK ON DIF (GOOD ON YOU CORI thumbs up ),AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUE REASON YOU SPREAD LIES AND RUMOURS,YOU ONLY FOOL YOURSELF INTO BELIEVING OTHERS WOULD FOLLOW YOUR LEAD,...THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO RING YOU,SO THEY SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT AND NUTJOB YOU REALLY ARE...RUMOURS FLY FAST,BUT MINE ARE THE TRUTH...AND YOU LOSE,CAUSE OF ME...UP YOURS S.RYAN...

SUZY'S PHONE NUMBER: 0424705576 cthulhu
Billy Ruben wrote:IF THERE IS ONE THING I ACHIEVED WITH THIS BITCH THIS WEEK,IS THE SUPPOSEDLY UNBENDING SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY SLAG OF BALLARAT,LIED,WORMED AND TWISTED HER WAY OUT OF THE SLANDER SHE SAID ABOUT OZPIXIE...WE ALL SEEN IT FOR OURSELVES,NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLUFF HER WAY OUT,I NEVER KNEW HER NAME (OZPIXIE)STILL DON'T,SHE RECKONED SHE DID,UNTIL PROVEN WRONG BY "I AM"...NOW SHE'S SHIT SCARED OF YOU PEOPLE SEEING HER FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS...AND THE REASON SHE REALLY SPREADS RUMOURS AND LIES,SHE'S A PATHETIC IMP OF A WOMAN,THAT HAS NOBODY IN LIFE,THAT REALLY COULD LOVE THAT THING...


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true lilly wrote:
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:22,000+++ Views for true lilly... Lilliput

Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,


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REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.


ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

PSALMS 119: 85 to 128
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http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85

PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.


...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,

may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...

NEHEMIAH 1, 2
& 3

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV


ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 4: 18, 19

But the path 734 of the just 6662
[is] as the shining 5051 light 216,
that shineth 215 more 1980 and
more unto the perfect 3559 day 3117.
The way 1870 of the wicked 7563
[is] as darkness 653:
they know 3045 not
at what they stumble 3782 .

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PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...

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Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...

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true lilly wrote:
Cool wrote:ok then .. time-clonings
=TIME of yours definings of it
the EL is GOD for it including others els
i am reapeted in the mirror of events and recorded stringings
as the unknown repeates in it
you are/was a mormon - right?

No, not, never was Mormon, but a Target of theirs to.

And, 1, and 24 other thrones,
but still THE ONE, ORIGINATOR.

And, ALL, EVERY ONE of US
and THE CREATOR
and The Next 24 Enthroned,
ARE UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS.

NEVER TO BE REPEATED.

SO PRECIOUS,
and a SAD WASTE
to CHOSE EXTINCTION.

But back to Mormons:
The Cover for The World
RECOGNIZING AUSTRALIA
AS THE LAND GOD DESCRIBED...
..."heard it before from that
'dumb dumb dumb' religion.",
but it's nothing like it,
as AUSTRALIA ALWAYS WAS, and
CLEARLY, FOR HUNDREDS of YEARS, and
EVEN MORE CLEARLY NOW,
DESCRIBED in HOLY SCRIPTURE.
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
The Illuminati Is Bullshit To Suck People Into A Mindset...!!!
And that mind SET is AWAY
from what the evil MOST FEAR...
...that people will SEE, The Actual,
TRUTH of GOD'S WORD, and so,
KNOW HE EXISTS and SERVE HIM

RATHER THAN the prince of DEATH!


As you can see, I've always made it clear
that I am not afraid of 'going toe to toe',
in a serious, Contest of Ideas.

And clearly not a 'love fest' of 'smooth words',
but just as clearly, not a battle of
Personal Threats and Counter Threats.

Yet, that is what 'they' present
(threats against my person), as 'their'
'counter arguments' to what 'they' have
NO COUNTER ARGUMENT TO OFFER,
and THEN, HAVE THE GAUL TO COMPLAIN
that 'they', "'don't like' 'the way' 'I' 'speak'"!?

Yes, that is another 'reason' 'Billy Ruben' gives
for his hate of me and THREATS TO KILL me.

So, some quotes,
to help stress the WARNING
to all who may be tempted to join the likes of,
Billy Ruben, tintin, cori, I_AM, merlincove,
el kabong, and the rest of the on line, and
Local, Thugs, in these clearly, serious, criminal acts



Well, here it is folks,
The GOOD NEWS Behind,
"The NEWS Behind The NEWS".

And first up:
PLEASE, add, counter, challenge away,
but NOT with
Worldly/CATHOLIC FUNDED/COMMISSIONED
Lies, Myths and Fantasy, presented as if 'fact'...
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The WHOLE Conspiracy INDUSTRY
is FULL of that INSANITY.
Please LET THIS THREAD BE WHAT IT IS
or ADMIT YOU WORK
to "PROTECT" TPTB
from The ONLY Truth "They" FEAR.


The intent of this thread is:
To SHOW how OLD and TIGHT
the HOODWINKS placed on us by
those DEATH WORSHIPPING LIE LOVERS
actually are, AND HOW to REMOVE them,
FOR FREE!

Yep, no middle man or 'guru' to PAY to follow
(to your Eternal DEATH), no man or woman
to grovel and suck down to, just tools and skills
for recognising and countering THE KILLER LIE.

So I'll begin with my introduction posts
to 'that thread'
that TWISTED
FREEING TRUTH
into MOCKING DEATH THREATS...
so folk can also SEE
the DIFFERENT SPIRITS SOURCE
behind different posters...
to HEAR the voice of HARD LOVE
and DOING JUSTICE,
and recognise
the SMOOTH WORDS of
THE FATHER of The LIE.


So, from 16-10-2007....

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338
true lilly wrote:It's a SERIOUS MATTER:
BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS

Yesterday, we had a guest over,
while 'Billy Ruben' aka 'Jason/Jase',
was texting me yet more threats.

Now, only going by those text
from last night and yesterday,
that guest had serious concerns
over what they
('Billy Ruben's' threatening texts),
contained.

But here's the thing;
that guest was The Same Person
who was here The First Time
'Billy Ruben' phoned and spoke to me.

'That' First Time, that 'Billy Ruben'
then proceeded to spam threads
with a completely slanderous version
of what was and wasn't said by whom,
and what sort of electronics my house contains.

So again, I asked 'Billy Ruben' to Call
and Speak To THAT PERSON while he was here,
(and 'Billy Ruben' was spending all his time
texting threats to my phone anyway),
so that he (the guest who was also here and
witnessed that first call from 'Billy Ruben),
could confirm (and so, easy 'Billy Ruben's mind),
that there was only the TV on in the background,
and that I only have one, very old, weak and
slow computer.

'Billy Ruben', again, refused to speak to him.

But back to the nature of those threats.

They are very personal, very sick,
dangerously obsessive,
INDEPENDENTLY WITNESSED to
NOT BE ENCOURAGED,
and clearly, though showing an unstable mind,
knowingly, willingly, criminal.

Also, I will stress that what indicates that
'Billy Ruben's' threats ARE LEGITIMATELY to be,
considered SERIOUS THREATS, are his bold,
statements of and behaviour that supports,
his lack of fear of detection.

That is a classic indication of someone
committed to carrying out their threats,
even at the risk of being caught.


Rather TELLING to, that
DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUM MODERATORS
DON'T BAN the likes of CORI and TINTIN
(who also publicly posted similar threats),
but rather, THOSE OF US WHO NOTIFY
MODERATORS AND ADMINISTRATION
of THAT CLEARLY, SERIOUS and CRIMINAL
behaviour.
true lilly wrote:Just a few example of how important it is to not allow this post to show in an impactful, legible format...
MASS MANIPULATOR
David Icke INDUSTRIES

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it's O.K.
to DO IT!

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Cos they tell ya
what they do to ya
it's O.K.
to DO IT!

...and that doesn't include
how many times
each attempt was edited
by me and 'them',
me and 'them',
as I was writing and editing

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Billy Ruben wrote:YES YOU DID MAGGOT ACCUSE OXPIXIE,WHY WOULD I DO IT,NOT MY STYLE OF LOWY LIKE YOU SHITBAG WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEAR,YOU ONLY DENY IT CAUSE,YOU ARE TRYING TO PRESS CHARGES...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...AND SOON AS I TELL BALLARAT POLICE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT YOUR EX-COPPER HUSBAND,YOU WON'T BE LOOKED AFTER,YOU'LL GET THE PSYCHE WARD,COURTEOUSY OF ME...
LILLYS' NEW PLOY TODAY,IS SPAM AS MANY LIES IN ONE POST,THINKING I'LL EXHAUST MYSELF COUNTERING THEM,SORRY,I ALREADY PUT OUT THE TRUTHFUL EVENTS,SHE'S A LITTLE TO SLOW THIS TIME AROUND AND HOPES TO BURY IT,UNDER TONNES OF SHIT,TO HISE HER LYING,CALLOUS,COLD-HEARTED SIDE...I AM NOT,SCUM LIKE HER,DESERVE MY WRATH AND EVERYONE ELSES WHO'VE BEEN SO INSULTED BY THIS MINDLESS BINT OVER THE YEARS,REGARDS.

Billy Ruben wrote:IF THERE IS ONE THING I ACHIEVED WITH THIS BITCH THIS WEEK,IS THE SUPPOSEDLY UNBENDING SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY SLAG OF BALLARAT,LIED,WORMED AND TWISTED HER WAY OUT OF THE SLANDER SHE SAID ABOUT OZPIXIE...WE ALL SEEN IT FOR OURSELVES,NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLUFF HER WAY OUT,I NEVER KNEW HER NAME (OZPIXIE)STILL DON'T,SHE RECKONED SHE DID,UNTIL PROVEN WRONG BY "I AM"...NOW SHE'S SHIT SCARED OF YOU PEOPLE SEEING HER FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS...AND THE REASON SHE REALLY SPREADS RUMOURS AND LIES,SHE'S A PATHETIC IMP OF A WOMAN,THAT HAS NOBODY IN LIFE,THAT REALLY COULD LOVE THAT THING...

cthulhu

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Gee, I wonder why
"tintin's" thread HAS LOST SO MANY READERS...

...and isn't this "supposed" to be,
"The ANTI-DAVID ICKE SITE"...
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EVEN IF THAT WAS TRUE,WHICH IT ISN'T,IT'S YOU WHO LOST THE READERS,THAT'S WHY YOU BITCHED SO LONG ABOUT GETTING BACK ON DIF (GOOD ON YOU CORI thumbs up ),AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUE REASON YOU SPREAD LIES AND RUMOURS,YOU ONLY FOOL YOURSELF INTO BELIEVING OTHERS WOULD FOLLOW YOUR LEAD,...THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO RING YOU,SO THEY SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT AND NUTJOB YOU REALLY ARE...RUMOURS FLY FAST,BUT MINE ARE THE TRUTH...AND YOU LOSE,CAUSE OF ME...UP YOURS S.RYAN...

SUZY'S PHONE NUMBER: 0424705576 cthulhu
EVERYTHING IN THE ABOVE POST IS A PROVEN LIE,KEEP CLUTCHING TO THE HOPE SOME FUCKTARD AS STUPID AS YOU,BELIEVES IT...


thumbs down cthulhu

true lilly wrote:Good readers, as I see Billy Ruben is polluting my threads with the equivalent of
what one would find in the chamber pot of a man dying of vile diseases (and so,
not something one would want to pick through the details of),

DEAR READERS,YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY I HATE THIS SLAG MORE THAN ANYONE ON THE NET,SHE''LL USE ANY KNOWLEDGE IN HER POWER,IF SHE THINKS IT'S A WEAKNESS OR A GOOD POINT OF ATTACK,THAT'S WHY,I'M SHAMELESS AND BLAMELESS AND DO THE SAME BACK,USING HER FAMILY THAT TURNED ON HER,FOR THE SAME BRAND OF FUCKTARD NUTTINESS.WHAT I DID CONFIRM AT HPANWO,WAS MY LYMPHOCYTES ARE OUT,WHICH IS QUITE SPEEDY IN DEVELOPEMENT,CONSIDERING I HAD A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH IN JANUARY,I HAD THE THIRD BLOOD TEST TODAY,SO HOPING THE RESULTS GO BACK TO NORMAL BY NEXT WEEK.IT'S A RECIPE FOR LEUKEMIA,SHE KNEW THIS,CAUSE SHE LIKES THE RUMOUR MILL,AND MR SOD TIPPED HER OFF,FROM MY STINT AS DAVID VINCENT...AS LONG AS YOU PEOPLE KNOW,REMEMBER THE PATTERNS WITH THE SATANIST DAUGHTER...SEE,I DON'T MIND THEM BOTH DOING THAT,I'LL LET IT PLAY EENIE MEENIE MINIE MOE...AND SEE WHICH ONE DESERVES THEIR COME UPPANCE THE MOST...SUCK MY COCK...


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[quote="true lilly"][color=darkblue]Good readers, as I see Billy Ruben is polluting my threads with the equivalent of
what one would find in the chamber pot of a man dying of vile diseases (and so,
not something one would want to pick through the details of), I'll simply post my reply
to his, not at all private, message to me on the same subjects, which though I didn't
bother answering point for point, will give you a sound and clear overview of 'his' problem with my character.
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:

"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:

"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper."[color=black], job....'smart'er...
smart, would be to stop trusting idiots to supply 'intelligence',
and to stop expecting that insanity to not backfire.

But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.



So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:

"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.

It's because you have become a liability TO THEM.
In fact,
all you bitterly chattering monkey's have.

btw... WHAT is IT 'you' claim I'm "pushing"?



I knew you'd post when you thought the coast was clear,or,you got told I logged off,ROFLMAO rolf ,see,I use head,you and your ilk,cheat. Evil or Very Mad
True Lilly admits,tried to worm out..


But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.

t0o late,you already claimed it is her...and that you warned others way back at ATS,which is a heap of a shit forum,the same with Godlike,them and you,would'nt wipe my arse with...

Now,even better,you're not even sure it's the same Ozpixie...not only that,you just displayed your willing to spread rumours with no basis of truth,I'm going to spam every fuckin thread with this now...thankyou,like Manna from heaven in the quest,to slay the dragon known as True Lilly...you got nothing mate...you just lost all your so-called credibilty by yourself,in two short lines...I love you again...Hahahahahahaha


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...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...



Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.


How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

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Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER


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Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 970510
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 888898...
... or you could simply 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 993177 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 252310in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, 22,000+++ Views for true lilly... 993177to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...


Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.


DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...


Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?


From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben
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your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after
, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.


Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...


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the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.


Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...


Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

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I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE... thumbs up
I FIND THE UNHIVED MIND INTERESTING,THANKS TO SOD LEAVING THAT LINK,IT SHOWS A PSYCHOLOGICAL TIME-LINE FOR THIS FRUITBAT,SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY,AND OF COURSE,THE LACK OF INTEREST IN HER POST,ZERO REPLIES AND TWO OR THREE DOZEN READS OVER 5 YEARS,SO YEAH,VERY TELLING,THAT'S WHY SHE BAITS AND LIES EVERYBODY,CAUSE,AS IN HER REAL LIFE,EVERYONE INCLUDING HER FAMILY ABANDONED HER,CAUSE THEY COULD'NT TAKE THE HURT AND PAIN SHE CAUSED THEM,OVER THIS LOVE FOR DEMONS,THAT SHE THINKS IS GOD.SUZY,YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOVING,SPIRITUAL PSYCHIC SIDE,TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER REALMS,YOU'RE A BOTTOM FEEDER...YOU'RE TALKING SHIT,SCHIZO OR POSSESSED...

BUT ANYWAY,SOD GIVES HER CREDIT AS UNBENDING,I SAY,STUPID AND STUBBORN,WHICH COST HER THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE,HER LOVING FAMILY,THAT SHE LOST,THANK GOD THE HUSBAND WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE KIDS TOGETHER...THAT IS ALL FOR NOW...

JEALOUSY OF TINTIN'S SUCCESS AND INTEGRITY,NOW HE HAS REAL FRIENDS AND FOLLOWERS AND A NICE GERMAN GIRL CALLED CORI BY HIS SIDE,HE'S A SUCCESS AS HE WORKED HARD FOR HIS ORIGINAL POINT OF VIEW...I COMMEND HIM AND RECOMMEND YOU READING HIS WORKS,HE MUST BE GOOD,TO BE HARRASSED BY THIS STUPID WOMAN WHO LOST HER OWN KIDS IN THIS BITTER JEALOUS ONE WOMAN WAR

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Billy Ruben wrote:Ya know True Lilly,after what you said today about this being my version of Tintin's thread,I realised,not just what you did to your own family,but you are that stupid,to believe this was some genuine attempt at re-interpretting the news...it's not,it's a pisstake out of you,for ripping off what Craig Oxley's Forum was in honour of,the True Fallen,the True Speakers of conspiracy,and you stole that credence,and invented a story about car-bombings and being beaten up,so you could feel like one of them and con yourself into believing you're legit.See,you're a liar,but not a good one.

I know you hold information on that PC more than 5 years old,somewhere,you would have evidence and would've used it if real...you have'nt and remain,one of the all-time frauds in Conspiracy Land and not to be trusted.


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