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Post  true lilly Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:12 pm

He IS INSANE! But NOT in a nice, 'stupid so innocent' way. He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP. And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum. Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS, and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
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Post  Ciggy Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:22 am

Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:16 pm

Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
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Post  Ciggy Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:12 am

true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !

Kill me once, shame on you. Kill me twice, shame on me.

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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:19 am

true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 238393-london-riots
A hooded youth walks past a burning vehicle in Hackney during the London riots.
Herald Sun

POLICE are monitoring more than 70 youth and street gangs in Melbourne
in the wake of the British riots.

Assistant commissioner Steve Fontana, speaking exclusively to the Herald Sun, said the threat of isolated riots in Melbourne was real.
"We are certainly looking at what the lessons are from the UK. Yes, we've
still got a lot of work to do with our youth," he said.
"Could it happen in pockets? Yes, it could. Would it blow out across Melbourne? I doubt it."
Mr Fontana revealed:
LAW enforcement agencies across the nation are reviewing communications
laws to see what could be done to shut down the sort of riot inciting
SMS and texts that spread unrest
in Britain and kept troublemakers a
step ahead of the police.
ABOUT 40 gangs are active in the city's northwest alone.

Related Coverage

Police bid to prevent riots Herald Sun, 2 hours ago
An eerie quiet before violent firestorm Adelaide Now, 9 Aug 2011
Review on gang violence in suburbs Herald Sun, 30 Jul 2011
Cops join forces to wage war on bikies The Australian, 27 Jul 2011
20th arrest over bikie riot Adelaide Now, 24 Jun 2011

GANGS are subject to regular intelligence assessments, but this
information isn't always available to police on the streets because of
the force's outdated database.
The force refuses to say exactly how many gangs
are active in the city or what it knows about the
hundreds of members and their activities.
A Freedom of Information request seeking details of gang names, locations, numbers
and suspected activities was rejected by the force before the UK riots.
But Mr Fontana assured the public that police here would not be caught off guard.
Hesays our strong economy, greater engagement with troubled youths and
large number of responsible young people makes UK-style riots less
likely here.
"There's always a possibility, I think Cronulla showed there is always a possibility of these things occurring."
Mr Fontana said naming gangs or detailing their suspected strengths or activities would be unfair.
"Not all of them may have a criminal background and that's part of the issue."
In just a few minutes on the internet, theHerald Sun
discovered the names of 40 gangs from across the city, many of which
have been involved in stabbings and violent brawls, often in central
Melbourne.
The figures suggest Melbourne has between 70 and 100 gangs.
Mr Fontana said gang membership tended to be fluid, often with a small core.
He said many were short-lived and not all were violent, with some linked
to graffiti or other public nuisance activities rather than serious crime.

Some were racially or sport based while others were so-called "postcode" gangs,
which could be little more than local kids who took their schoolyard fights to the streets.

Gangs have been linked to assaults, stabbings and brawls, a Molotov cocktail attack on a
train, the firebombing of a home and attacks with deadly weapons including machetes, tomahawks, Tasers, bars, baseball bats, bottles, and knuckle-dusters.
"They
don't really contribute to a large volume of crime but there is concern
in some areas because of the nature and severity of the violence," Mr
Fontana said.
"If they become violent we do target their activities. When we have a problem we will focus on it."
He acknowledged police were at times targets of gang violence.
"We are often confronted with groups ... who want to take us on - some of them are armed."
Melbourne's gangs regularly use social media such as Facebook and Twitter to organise and recruit.
"There's always potential to shut down networks but implications of that could
cost someone their life by taking away their ability to communicate in
an emergency," Mr Fontana said.
The force has also invested heavily in boosting its presence in trouble spots such as train stations.
mickelburoughp@heraldsun.com.au
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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:20 am

true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE! But NOT in a nice, 'stupid so innocent' way. He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP. And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum. Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS, and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP
FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan
around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 238393-london-riots
A hooded youth walks past a burning vehicle in Hackney during the London riots.
Herald Sun

POLICE are monitoring more than 70 youth and street gangs in Melbourne
in the wake of the British riots.

Assistant commissioner Steve Fontana, speaking exclusively to the Herald Sun, said the threat of isolated riots in Melbourne was real.
"We are certainly looking at what the lessons are from the UK. Yes, we've
still got a lot of work to do with our youth," he said.
"Could it happen in pockets? Yes, it could. Would it blow out across Melbourne? I doubt it."
Mr Fontana revealed:
LAW enforcement agencies across the nation are reviewing communications
laws to see what could be done to shut down the sort of riot inciting
SMS and texts that spread unrest
in Britain and kept troublemakers a
step ahead of the police.
ABOUT 40 gangs are active in the city's northwest alone.

Related Coverage

Police bid to prevent riots Herald Sun, 2 hours ago
An eerie quiet before violent firestorm Adelaide Now, 9 Aug 2011
Review on gang violence in suburbs Herald Sun, 30 Jul 2011
Cops join forces to wage war on bikies The Australian, 27 Jul 2011
20th arrest over bikie riot Adelaide Now, 24 Jun 2011

GANGS are subject to regular intelligence assessments, but this
information isn't always available to police on the streets because of
the force's outdated database.
The force refuses to say exactly how many gangs
are active in the city or what it knows about the
hundreds of members and their activities.
A Freedom of Information request seeking details of gang names, locations, numbers
and suspected activities was rejected by the force before the UK riots.
But Mr Fontana assured the public that police here would not be caught off guard.
Hesays our strong economy, greater engagement with troubled youths and
large number of responsible young people makes UK-style riots less
likely here.
"There's always a possibility, I think Cronulla showed there is always a possibility of these things occurring."
Mr Fontana said naming gangs or detailing their suspected strengths or activities would be unfair.
"Not all of them may have a criminal background and that's part of the issue."
In just a few minutes on the internet, theHerald Sun
discovered the names of 40 gangs from across the city, many of which
have been involved in stabbings and violent brawls, often in central
Melbourne.
The figures suggest Melbourne has between 70 and 100 gangs.
Mr Fontana said gang membership tended to be fluid, often with a small core.
He said many were short-lived and not all were violent, with some linked
to graffiti or other public nuisance activities rather than serious crime.

Some were racially or sport based while others were so-called "postcode" gangs,
which could be little more than local kids who took their schoolyard fights to the streets.

Gangs have been linked to assaults, stabbings and brawls, a Molotov cocktail attack on a
train, the firebombing of a home and attacks with deadly weapons including machetes, tomahawks, Tasers, bars, baseball bats, bottles, and knuckle-dusters.
"They
don't really contribute to a large volume of crime but there is concern
in some areas because of the nature and severity of the violence," Mr
Fontana said.
"If they become violent we do target their activities. When we have a problem we will focus on it."
He acknowledged police were at times targets of gang violence.
"We are often confronted with groups ... who want to take us on - some of them are armed."
Melbourne's gangs regularly use social media such as Facebook and Twitter to organise and recruit.
"There's always potential to shut down networks but implications of that could
cost someone their life by taking away their ability to communicate in
an emergency," Mr Fontana said.
The force has also invested heavily in boosting its presence in trouble spots such as train stations.
mickelburoughp@heraldsun.com.au
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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:45 am

true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE! But NOT in a nice, 'stupid so
innocent' way. He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE
FOUNDATION FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP. And EDITS The Official David
Icke Forum. Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS, and now that HE IS
(RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP
FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan
around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 238393-london-riots
A hooded youth walks past a burning vehicle in Hackney during the London riots.
Herald Sun

POLICE are monitoring more than 70 youth and street gangs in Melbourne
in the wake of the British riots.

Assistant commissioner Steve Fontana, speaking exclusively to the Herald Sun, said the threat of isolated riots in Melbourne was real.

"We are certainly looking at what the lessons are from the UK. Yes, we've
still got a lot of work to do with our youth," he said.

"Could it happen in pockets? Yes, it could. Would it blow out across Melbourne? I doubt it."
Mr Fontana revealed:
LAW enforcement agencies across the nation are reviewing communications
laws to see what could be done to shut down the sort of riot inciting
SMS and texts that spread unrest
in Britain and kept troublemakers a
step ahead of the police.

ABOUT 40 gangs are active in the city's northwest alone.

Related Coverage
Police bid to prevent riots Herald Sun, 2 hours ago
An eerie quiet before violent firestorm Adelaide Now, 9 Aug 2011
Review on gang violence in suburbs Herald Sun, 30 Jul 2011
Cops join forces to wage war on bikies The Australian, 27 Jul 2011
20th arrest over bikie riot Adelaide Now, 24 Jun 2011

GANGS are subject to regular intelligence assessments, but this
information isn't always available to police on the streets because of
the force's outdated database.
The force refuses to say exactly how many gangs
are active in the city or what it knows about the
hundreds of members and their activities.

A Freedom of Information request seeking details of gang names, locations, numbers
and suspected activities was rejected by the force before the UK riots.
But Mr Fontana assured the public that police here would not be caught off guard.
Hesays our strong economy, greater engagement with troubled youths and
large number of responsible young people makes UK-style riots less likely here.

"There's always a possibility, I think Cronulla showed there is always a possibility of these things occurring."

Mr Fontana said naming gangs or detailing their suspected strengths or activities would be unfair.

"Not all of them may have a criminal background and that's part of the issue."

In just a few minutes on the internet, theHerald Sun
discovered the names of 40 gangs from across the city, many of which
have been involved in stabbings and violent brawls,
often in central Melbourne.

The figures suggest Melbourne has between 70 and 100 gangs.
Mr Fontana said gang membership tended to be fluid, often with a small core.
He said many were short-lived and not all were violent, with some linked
to graffiti or other public nuisance activities rather than serious crime.

Some were racially or sport based while others were so-called "postcode" gangs,
which could be little more than local kids who took their schoolyard fights to the streets.

Gangs have been linked to assaults, stabbings and brawls, a Molotov cocktail attack on a train, the firebombing of a home and attacks with deadly weapons including machetes, tomahawks, Tasers, bars, baseball bats, bottles, and knuckle-dusters.

"They don't really contribute to a large volume of crime but there is concern
in some areas because of the nature and severity of the violence," Mr Fontana said.

"If they become violent we do target their activities.

When we have a problem we will focus on it."
He acknowledged police were at times targets of gang violence.
"We are often confronted with groups ... who want to take us on -
some of them are armed.
"

Melbourne's gangs regularly use social media such as Facebook and Twitter to organise and recruit.
"There's always potential to shut down networks but implications of that could
cost someone their life by taking away their ability to communicate in
an emergency," Mr Fontana said.

The force has also invested heavily in boosting its presence in trouble spots such as train stations.
mickelburoughp@heraldsun.com.au
[quote="true lilly"]And there is MUCH more in current and recent news that goes with all this...

Underwater expedition delivers key findings
in search for evidence of early Americans


Mercyhurst College archaeologists
trace ancient river systems,
identify chert at
3 submerged sites


In one of the more dramatic moments of an underwater archaeological
survey co-led by Mercyhurst College archaeologist James Adovasio along
Florida's Gulf Coast this summer, Andy Hemmings stood on an inundated river's edge where man hasn't set foot in more than 13,000 years.

palomino wrote:
Originally Posted by palomino
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225807108312

Aborigines are ill-served by cultural falsification and fraud

AS a nation we want more from just about everybody. We demand better
from our politicians, our corporate executives, our young sportsmen and
women.


Yet we do not expect more from indigenous Australians. Sadly, as a
nation, Australians have a predilection for indigenous confection. We
undermine our national character when we accept cultural fraud. The real indigenous culture is as old as the land, with its wonderful tales of how, at the start of time, this great country was transformed by our ancestral beings.

Then there is an insidious modern culture: a culture of fabrication that preys on unquestioning mainstream Australians.

It thrives because of mainstream Australia's inability to spot a
cultural fraud even when it is staring it in the face. It is often
shrouded in the mystical and unchallenged by the naive for fear of
giving offence. It is handsomely rewarded with grants by unwitting
government officials. This false culture is abetted by a broad willingness to be hoodwinked.
...
In my community I have seen blatant cultural fraud and the fabrication of history
as a money-making strategy....

It is time to do away with the separatist double standards.

Wesley Aird is a member of the Australian Employment Covenant Implementation Team
true lilly wrote:Funny to, the TIMING of this year old 'news'
making today's headlines...HACKERS...one of
the reasons I happily 'outed myself'...Not being
at all pc savy and knowing I could not secure
access to my home, let alone computer, and having
nothing of worldly value on my pc, it was best that
who and where I was and what I'm up to always
be openly known by more than a few...this way,
anything illegal 'put on' or 'coming through' my pc
could be proven not to be OF me...as a 'certain someone'
and his hired thugs, tried to do in the past ...TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! MadTINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Tongue

anyway, enough of my reasoning, on to what most
really care about...MONEY...


Russian hackers 'steal millions' from Citibank

* By staff writers
* From: news.com.au
* December 23, 2009 12:12PM

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GLOBAL finance giant Citigroup is denying reports
hackers stole "tens of millions" of dollars
from its banking arm Citibank midway through the year.


"Black Energy" was behind the losses...

"There's a newer, private version ofBlack Energy that
uses plugins to extend its capabilities beyond just DDoS (distributed
denial of service), security researcher Joe Stewart told www.pcworld.com.
Related Coverage
* Banks: Rate rise warning for 2010
* FBI probes cyber attack on Citigroup: report
Australian IT, 9 hours ago
* FBI probes US terror suspects in Pakistan The Australian, 11 Dec 2009
* Leighton owner pulls IPO The Australian, 3 Dec 2009
* What GFC? Fat cat bonuses are here again NEWS.com.au, 14 Oct 2009
* Bankers set for record bonus season The Australian, 14 Oct 2009[/b]
http://www.news.com.au/business/russ...-1225813099266

The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI,
the National Security Agency,
the Department of Homeland Security
and Citigroup exchanged information
to counter the attack,
which could have begun as long as a year ago.


The hackers, named in The Guardian as
the "Russian Business Network",
first gained notoriety several years ago
after masterminding a string of hi-tech crimes
including identity theft, fraud, spam
and child pornography.


Citigroup, the world's largest financial services company,
rejected any suggestion the FBI was investigating an incident
and denied that a raid of such proportions had taken place.

"Any allegation that the FBI is working on a case at Citigroup
involving a breach of Citi systems resulting in
tens of millions of dollars of losses is false," it said.
...
A former member of the World Bank's security team said he was not aware of the attack, but said criminal groups based mainly in Europe, Brazil and Southeast Asia "consistently
targeted" large banks and that the industry was "haemorrhaging funds".


"Ninety-eight percent of bank heists
are now occurring virtually and not in the real world,"

he told The Associated Press.

Last edited by vera susa; 23-12-2009 at 09:22 AM.
true lilly wrote:
Sorry guys, I forgot to point out the obvious in this news,
as I was thinking of someone who asked me about why
"They" want GOLD, who would have noticed it was what
I had answered them..."MIGHTY DUCKS"/SUPER MACHINES
that use a lot of GOLD in their circuitry ... they will NOT
be 'aliens' invading, but man made monstrous machine...


Public release date:
23-Dec-2009


Contact: Suzanne Taylor Muzzin
suzanne.taylormuzzin@yale.edu
203-403-8555
Yale University
Scientists create
world's first molecular transistor


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IMAGE: Engineers adjusted the voltage applied
via gold contacts to a benzene molecule,
allowing them to raise and lower
the molecule’s energy states
and demonstrate that it could
be used exactly like a traditional transistor
at the molecular level.


Credit: Hyunwook Song and Takhee Lee
Usage Restrictions: With credit given.
This release is available in Chinese.
....
"There were a lot of technological advances
and understanding we built up over many years
to make this happen,"
Reed said.

There is a lot of interest in using
molecules in computer circuits
because traditional transistors
are not feasible at such small scales.
But Reed stressed that this is strictly
a scientific breakthrough and that
practical applications such as smaller and faster
"molecular computers"—if possible at all—
are many decades away.

(Ooohhh, he "stressed" it, so it "must be true"...TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Rolleyes)


"We're not about to create
the next generation of integrated circuits," he said.
"But after many years of work gearing up to this,

we have fulfilled a decade-long quest
and shown that molecules can act as transistors."
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! GLZdzS4VT2UJ
ITP.netIBM develops chip that works like human brain
TheNewsTribune.com - 1 hour ago
NEW YORK – IBM has developed a computer chip inspired by the human brain that may predict tsunamis and highlight risks in financial markets, ...

20 related articles
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[quote="true lilly"]Again, NAVAL MILITARY EXERCISES[color=green]...
..."COST MILLION"=INVESTED MILLIONS...
...and these reports are only what they ARE telling us...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1191
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TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 189002-pn-news-slideshow-image-whaling-war-heats-up

Laser fight:
Whaling war goes high-tech
Sea Shepherd Ady Gil
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WHALE WARS:
Conservationists shine lasers
at Japanese harpoon vessel.

Source: PerthNow
Sea Shepherd and Japanese whalers
battle in Antartica

* Narelle Towie, Environment Reporter
* From: PerthNow
* December 23, 2009 12:45PM

LASERS and high-tech spy boats are being used
in the fight to save whales from Japanese 'researchers'.

...that may explain a little of
why "tintin's" thread has dropped
from over 2500 views an hour,
to barely 500...
and I'm being trolled here now...
Rolling Eyes
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'Gold price could hit $2000 in 2012'
Arab Times Kuwait English Daily - 9 hours ago

To compound matters the central banks continued buying
has pushed gold prices higher. UBS raised its three month forecast
to $1850 from $1600
due to the ...

246 related articles

...it was $425.
when The Experts told us that was "TOO MUCH",
and when I first told folk to, "BUY GOLD" Wink Laughing ,
and everyone started 'calling me names' Rolling Eyes Razz

true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.

Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do Wink Smile),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,

cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,

you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &..
Rolling Eyes ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.


P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.


P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
Wink Very Happy


P.P.P.S.
Evil or Very Mad BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong,
Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
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11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News

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Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?


It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.


Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive
Very Happy Wink

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine

- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.

But first, here's what FitzSimons says:

It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece.
All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure,
and my best hope is that this story
might give hope
to those who contemplate it.
And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.


... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....

Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... Wink Cool...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
Wink Cool

Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.


A team of researchers from the University of WA
and
Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.
The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"

Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.

The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.
"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( Laughing...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink Very Happy...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)


Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003


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Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH
.
Very Happy Wink
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Post  true lilly Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:23 am

Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 567573 )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that
'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
Twisted Evil
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 252310


And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure Rolling Eyes
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH...Laughing...TO,
those 'cleaning them up'...
Razz ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike

other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS
Twisted Evil ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...
Evil or Very Mad TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 888898


Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:
Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
17 comments

RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


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Two men were seriously injured in the explosion. Picture: Tess Follett Herald Sun
< Prev1 of 3Next >UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion
in Cannons Creek last night
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

Neighbours felt shockwaves as the blast ripped through the area
about 11pm,
with one of the men losing both of his legs in the accident.

The blast happened at a gathering of family and friends where the men in
their 20s were mixing commonly bought chemicals in a metal tin, with up
to 12 others standing back.

When asked if the explosion was caused by an amateur bomb,
Arson Squad Senior Detective Cameron Lunny said:
"I'd call it an improvised explosive device".
"It's been likened to a huge thunder clap from what I understand," he said.
He said the men were just experimenting with the chemicals, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, and that nothing sinister was at play.

Related Coverage

In Pictures:
Injured men airlifted from backyard explosion

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Girl dies in cremation blast Herald Sun, 2 Aug 2011
Cyprus Naval Base Blast NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011
Two men burned in blast at pub Courier Mail, 21 Jun 2011

"They were just having a bit of a muck around I think,'' Sen Det Lunny said.
"There's certainly no indication there was anything apart from experimenting."
The 23-year-old Cannons Creek man and 24-year-old from Pakenham were
standing over the mixture, trying to bury it when it went off.

No-one else was hurt and there was no property damaged,
despite the strength of the blast.
Next door neighbour Arlene Trevethan said the explosion created shockwaves.
"It just shook the house. I came out and I thought it was a fire or something,'' she said.
Another neighbour initially thought an earthquake had struck.
Local Robert Dudgeon said he had heard similar explosions in the past, which police are investigating.
"There were others here over the past month or so,'' he said.
"One night there were three in a row. Whether it's the same source or not, I don't know."
Sen Det Lunny pleaded with others not to experiment with dangerous chemicals.
"We're getting a lot recently of people undertaking mixing of chemicals.
It just goes to show it's not a very smart thing to do and I just plead to
the people thinking about this not to do it - it's very, very dangerous."

He didn't say whether the injured men had sourced the recipe from the internet or whether charges would be laid.
The two men were airlifted to Melbourne hospitals where they remain in critical conditions.
Intensive care paramedic Ben Meadley said the men suffered extensive injuries.
"A 24 year-old man
suffered significant blast-type injures
to his legs and hands,
the type of injury you would more liken to
what you would see in a war situation

rather than in outer suburban Melbourne,''
he said.
"He also had severe airway burns and facial burns.''

The man was put into an induced coma
before he was flown to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a critical condition.

A 23-year-old man suffered burns to his face and arms and burns to his airway
which can cause swelling and restrict breathin.

Anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit Crime Stoppers
- with Shelley Hadfield
17 comments on this story


Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention 'that' thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts
, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 802367 another
of 'their' TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 888898 Very Unfortunate 'mates' TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 252310 ...


...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' Twisted Evil ...
Rolling Eyes

Critically injured men 'were making an IED'
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 473968-cannon-039-s-creek
Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion in Cannons Creek
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
Listen to your masters,
'Jason'/'Billy Ruben', and,
"SHUT THE HELL UP,
about Australia!"
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 233183

David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben


TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 662940 ahh, yes, but to WHOM.... TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 252310 Wink

...and, what and whom Suspect Twisted Evil pig TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 844424 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 5845 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 317380

will they be watching for...
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11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Main-gap2-300x340

Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?


It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.


Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive
Very Happy Wink

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine

- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.

But first, here's what FitzSimons says:


It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece.
All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure,
and my best hope is that this story
might give hope
to those who contemplate it.
And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.

... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....


Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... Wink Cool...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
...remember, they have long controlled the
"PUBLIC RELEASE" Dates And TIMING of
IMPORTANT, RELATED, Scientific Discoveries...
Wink Cool


Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.


A team of researchers from the University of WA
and
Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.

The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"

Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.

The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.

"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( Laughing...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink Very Happy...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)


Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003


TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Ediac1_231003
Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH
.
Very Happy Wink

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! The-mentalist-season-two-

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true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
And for how many years
have I warned that my enemies
are also enemies of Australia
and Every Living Soul who
DOESN'T HATE THE CREATOR OF LIFE...

...Too BLOODY Many!


RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


...and, it's ALL THERE,
FREELY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE
who cares to put GOD'S WORD and
WHAT IS REAL IN THIS REAL WORLD,

ABOVE what GOD'S ENEMIES PREACH.
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true lilly wrote: rolling pin

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao rolf cheers

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
thumbs up lmao rolf wave wacky boobies tholms


One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.


In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.



Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet. thumbs up

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.
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Post  Billy Ruben Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:11 pm

Do you want a lying fraud shill,representing and speaking for you,to the Christian God???
For years you have heard her claims,that she's had car bombings (which she changed to her daughter,recently),beatings twice,that put her in to hospital and that she is targetted by David Icke and Tintin,who run an International Cabal of Inept Hitmen.

She's deluded,that I would have sexual designs on herself,I detest the 50 year old prune.Slavic girls are beautiful,some,but I'm not even attracted to her ugly mind or mouth,so what is there to desire.I like functioning,mentally stable women,she's an erratic schizo psychopath.
I hit on people I would never want with forums,JD/John Drake being one,Vera Susa/True Lilly/Suzy Ryan,but if forced into a situation to choose between them both,I'll go twinky,and take JD's member deep in my mouth...eeeeeewww!!!!

lol!

But,the other day,True Lilly stepped over the line.She txt my missus,trying to stir trouble.She keeps all your data,if you're stupid enough to contact her and will never be left alone.I made that call from Sam's phone,cause she is disallowed and not trusted with home phones.But she's gone to far,with accusing all and sundry of child molestation,animal sex and more murderous plots,all of which is lies,as I filed a complaint with Ballarat Police and also informed them,of the slander she says against her former husband,who is allegedly a serving police officer.I wanted them to just question her,cause she'll go off the deep-end and start spouting the "Orange Order" is trying to kill me,that Israel is Australia and David Icke made my heater catch of fire,which is lies,she has animals in the house,she regulary sports photos of herself and family,sleeping with the doggies,they might be bored shitless of her endless rants,or it's some doggy-sex thingy going on with her clan or all of the above.

I was ignoring this forum,until I seen the Krokodile Thread and Zombie apocalypse...and stumbled on a post,where True Lilly constantly spams,Ciggy and I networking for child sex.I laughed at the pathetic moron at first and asked her nicely to stop.Where,delighted she finally got some attention,cause that is the only way she gets it,as I'm about to prove,with Tintins TNBTN thread.

That's her pathetic ploys which has snowballed into a very dangerous situation for her now.I am now,officially out to get her.For her own good,she must die,so she does'nt cause any more spiritual damage to herself.I'm doing her a favour.

Now lets prove what I'm saying.Her thread at the time,The Lying Conspiracy was being ignored,Vera Susa as it was known at David Icke forums,could'nt take the silence and miffed by rebuttals by the member Cori,she goes into meltdown.

What I want you to see,is she can't even live up to her own word,where she,quits the thread only to come back ten pages later,spamming the shit out of it,like she does here,when she can't win,bury the embarressing questions,cause everything she says,is a fuckin lie...everything.Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

***to The Orange Order,my fees are $20,000,the head is deliverable as proof,I need a bogus marriage in Groningeng,for citizenship and she must be a nymphomaniac,to keep me occupied,while the search for Mr Ruben winds down,that should take a couple of days,considering True Lilly calls the local cops goat fuckers.Turn a blind eye fraternal policeman,we serve the same masters,Lucifer The Light bearer. Wink


Here' her same MO and tactics for the last 5 years,the ignorant fucking nonce she is...kick it,really locals,kick it.

Lilly's Kharma,1,2,3 and 4...Bugger you bitch...and I mean bugger,as buggery,in the biblical sense,you know,KNOWING YOUR DOG BIATCH...
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Skharma1
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Skharma2
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Lillyskharma3
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Skharma4

Suzy's lover that started the heater on fire...I suggest a good grooming in future Suzy,before the friction of love...
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Slover
Cori's pleas to be left alone as usual ignored,she's the criminal stalker,like she accuses me of...it's her kharma and feel no shame in what I do in future...

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Swhatsheneverunderstand

and the skin crawls...errrr!!!!
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Theskincrawls
Jesus may have lost faith and given up,but I won't...
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Jesusfacepalmfacepalmjer
Time to start screaming BIATCH!!!!
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Hey Cori,
I will take Germany as a second choice...Ich Bin Ein Berliner...visit Hansa studios and Groningeng is just over the border by train,so I can collect my weed on regular occassions and hang out with Jan at the red-light district,sounds good to me...


thumbs up lol!
Oh did I mention Ballarat Police confirmed True lilly/Vera Susa/Suzy Ryan is a complete liar about the car-bombings (none have occurred in 30 years) and that she has'nt been beaten up and put in hospital,mmmmmm,careful what you wish for Suzy...hehehe,
I can blow cars up without a frigging bomb,little missy.It's just a bad option in case INNOCENT GOOD PEOPLE GET HURT OR KILLED,hehehe,the up close and personal touch is the go.

For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

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true lilly wrote:EVIL is; denying and trying to force the world into denying,
the truly life saving warnings (given to us from the beginning),
in this age when we need to hear them most, and science
keeps proving that those warnings were given to us, from the
beginning, so that we would not have to suffer the first death,
under the rule of the prince of the air, or, second, and permanent,
death.


EVIL are; all those who worship, the prince of the air,
the father of the lie, and his religions of death worship,
they have shoved down the world's throat on his behalf
(for their own selfish desires), since the first man rejected
his God given
authority and handed his duty of care over
to a self serving, castrating, woman.


EVIL,is spreading lies and slander and sugar coating it as the "Word Of God",EVIL and PETTY is Suzy Ryan/True Lilly of Ballarat.EVIL is those who spread lies and rumours about being victimized to try and garner favour,money and free computers.Like you did at DIF and with Runlikehell.EVIL is every filthy lying dying word that excretes from that chasm you call a mouth.You'd do more good filling it with dogknot than ever uttering a word ever again.And the way you speak lies and slander,some would be happy to put you down as the rabid little thing that you are.I will not stop and continue to heckle,cajole,derail and threaten until I get my chance to debate you face to face...I'll be using a form of "Charades" so even an idiot such as yourself,can't misunderstand my message.See you, oh so very soon,Suzy Ryan.Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!...Cthulhu!

ccc

dizzy

True Lilly wrote:
That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about

All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE

OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH
...

There needs to be peace in the world.
But you see,there are some weird beliefs from religeous types,who not only welcome and celebrate our destruction,to us and our children,there are some who cannot wait for the seals of revelations to unfold,fruiters and fruit-loops like our very own forum prophet,True Lilly.I know her belief system,I know she's a Gerald Flurry fruiter groupie,but you see,in the interest of sorting the chaff from the wheat,I was hoping,Suzy Ryan/True Lilly,Gerald Flurry and all those type followers could hold their breathe now,and take no more,to set an example,from their sacrifice,that they trully loved us and stick by their beliefs,that they foist upon us,not so gentlely.It would be an exhibition of their true faith and belief and would applaud their move to do so,as I continue,to breathe the fumes from Beezlebubs arse,cause I'm a sell out and a proud satanist,for I cower and wish to continue to live.

God,she and her ilk are starting to sound like these death cults.If one had a choice,I'll take the Moonies,with wild sex and suicide at the end of it,but to live as a sexually frustrated fucked up christian and suicide without the drugs and group-sex,I just feel,somewhere,they got the short-end of the stick.If not,a few sandwhiches,short of a picnic....DER!!!!


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Post  Billy Ruben Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:24 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
True Fuckwit Lilly wrote:
And isn't that exactly what the 16 Moderators
on David Icke Official Forums do:
SELL that "ONENESS" AGENDA;

MOCK ANYONE NOT SELLING THE VIEWS 'THEIR'
MAIN STREAM PROMOTED ORGANISATIONS.

And, IF THE MOCKING FAILS TO CONVERT or SILENCE THEM,
'THEY' SIMPLY BAN THEM, OVER ALL 'THEIR' MAIN STREAM
PROMOTED FORUMS.

Yep, it's all the same mobs, as any Google search for information
on the ACTUAL, Secret Religious Agenda behind 'David Icke, shows.
As no matter how specifically you word your search, what little 'they'
offer is well and truly flooded out with glorious praise for Icke and
vicious attacks against those who have cared to warn others
of the hypocrisy of that man and his backers, supporters and
followers.
Such as demanding excuses for all 'his/their' hypocrisies be accepted
as some sort of evidence of 'humaness & holiness', while utterly
damning any of his/their opponents for life, on any unrelated
minor human failing, whether real, perceived or INVENTED.

btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.
Those who in the real world, simply can't afford
to be known to associate with the likes of 'Billy Ruben's',
'cori's' or each other.

And those who still have to act friendly in the real world,
when they are not busy posting as 'Billy Ruben's', 'cori's',
and the other on line 'names' that 'they' hide behind, while
plotting with 'their' real world, secret associates, for the
installation of 'their' Beastly One World Religion.

How do I know?
How didn't 'they' know I do?
Too busy inventing lies 'they' lie I say, mean and believe,
to bother listening to what I actually say, mean and know.
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True Lilly wrote:

btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.

uh-huh,did you know I outed myself before I even joined Sodlike you lying,faker,extortionist fuckwit???
Absolute no brainer beating your lies fool,no effort,but enjoyable all the same.
Billy Ruben wrote:What's your next trick True Lilly,same old MO for years,I know you...do you get it,inside and out...I know you...and run rings around your arguements,where a stupid shitbag like you can't understand the level of abuse you DESERVE,do you get it,it does'nt make you look good and me bad,you just demonstarte your stubborn stupidity...if someone needs a good beating to bash sense in them,it is you,madam...greatest dipshit I ever met online.This all snowballed from one lie...and now,I love it,ner,ner,ner,ner

Razz Razz Razz Razz
Billy Ruben wrote:We've gone through all this True Lilly,these days you speak untruths,lies,yes,distortions,just to get me to answer your piss poor boring offer nothing,crap-house threads...and I have the pleasure knowing that and to tell you to your face and publicly humiliate you,cause you offer,nothing...nothing at all...I found out,if you lived by the bible tonight,retard,you,as a woman,are not,NOT ALLOWED to preach the gospel,not only that,you twist and distort it.You see,you do this,you get attention,hate usually,cause you're a loner and lost your family support and love,Your ex-hubby is Mum and Dad,thanks to your madness...isn't there a little bit that feels pain reading that,can't you make amends and be a good mum,instead of a raving lunatic...love your people and keep it shut for a while,OK,,little Suzy.


Billy Ruben wrote:Here,I got YOU real good this time


Lilly,what does this say,know thy place...and shut the mouth,you have no right to speak of the bible,here's the farkin proof,I got you...
TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Knowyourbible

Billy Ruben wrote:Listen mental case,I answered this post in another thread,enjoy it while it last mate,every thread you've done and will do in future,will be put in your sub-forum.And THEN,I'll lobby Sod-Admin,with a bit of coke and a blowjob,to keep you there and post no-where else on this forum,so lap it up bitch,time is short,ner,ner,ner,ner

Razz Razz Razz Razz
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True Lillys' Pm where she's BOASTFULLY proud of losing her family to have communion and telepathic Rapport with demons...uh,I mean't GOD...read on.Remember,she used my PM's first and my Phone TXT's,so I'm completely blameless,bringing this revelation to you...and proud!!!
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Married: 21-11-1981
First of 3 children to that, my one husband,
Born: 12-11-1982
Followed by 9 straight years of breastfeeding and/or being pregnant.

So old fashioned, you have to go back to genesis,
and that's why all my, worldly lusting, family hated me,
but failing to make me reject my faith in God,
they turned on and still, sabotage my children,
for which, they will answer to GOD'S Judgement,
and my children will be forgiven their errors,
taught them by those they can't believe, could,
hate God so bitterly...yet...

You see Suzy,I knew your family turned on you,look at some of the things you do that drive people away.God does'nt want neurotic followers,you have to have a normal life too...

Breastfeeding is excellent...both our kids did two years each on the tit,also mixed with food and drink as they developed,it was my idea back then too.Our kids did'nt cry,whinge or keep us up at night,pretty blessed we were back then...My ideas,not hers...was'nt a bad bloke either.
You know nothing, because they are the same people of your camp, that loaded so many fools with their bad 'intelligence' about me (too busy selling the lie, to bother to get to actually know those they lie about: 'insider' knowledge doesn't come from close proximity, but closeness in mind and heart), in an effort to cover their sins of sacrificing the small, weak and powerless, to acquire their personal desires. The same people who hate anyone who loves doing just service. The same people, so stupid as to destroy every blessing I freely gave and shared with them, rather than ever admit those blessings came from their own, faithful lover of The Creator. I simply walked away from them so they wouldn't keep compounding their sins, but they are even more stupid than I wanted to admit, and keep sending their little lap dogs to snap at me and mine...with things like trying to blow up my daughter with her first car. So stupid that they keep proving their associations (in those snipping efforts), with the Low Lives that their public persona's are held to be 'above', and so also undermining any chance of recovery from their coming, very personal 'crashes' that I kept privately warning them they are headed for if they don't at lest relent if they can't yet repent. So stupid they stepped up their evils, from under the (now transparently thin), cover of The LOWEST of LOW of 'their' associates (that in turn expose 'their' 'powerful' associates who really can't afford to be seen to share those same, Low associations), rather than simply back off. Powerful associates I also warned of the dumb bunnies and traitors in their circles.
So, in your case, I'm glad you keep peddling their crap.
And, they should also know by now, how many and who, of those lap dogs and dumb bunnies, did not pass on my warnings, that they really wish they had have received...oh, it won't make those 'family' and 'friends' any more inclined to finally do right by me, far too blinded by pride, but they will be blaming and turning on more of their own ilk to punish them, for what they are too proud to admit, their own pride cost them. Which in turn will further piss off the Powerful people as they do their cost benefit analysis of the association they can afford to maintain.

If I were bitter, I would have been sneaking around taking vengeance or sitting back silently waiting, to enjoy my enemies coming just deserts, but instead I keep risking my life, by standing in the middle of the road, Calling, "CAR!"...and it breaks my heart for them, to see how much they would rather die, than admit I could, let alone would, still care to warn them.

so... TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 993177and try to think, you may actually learn something worth understanding.


Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Ha! and who DIDN'T see this coming!

Craig Oxley+Cruise, David Icke+tintin,

Cruise=tintin,

'the jesuits did it','cos they are the jews',

Unhinged Minds=Unhived Lizards,


and so on, throughout CONspiracy land...
Rolling Eyes

What?Are you going to spam your way through life now...AND,I thought you did'nt believe in the Reptilians,eating your own words,not hard to do...If I remember from your mad rantings,did'nt Tintin = David Icke,or you finally figured out your error there...sheesh!!!
rolf rolf
Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
The timing was 'interesting', because it was posted,
after my ex left...mmm...yes, and more besides. See,
I was going to have a rest, after posting about 'Billy Ruben's'
latest phone threats, when who should rock up, for the second,
unannounced time today, but my ex. Only this time, he simply had to,
drop some *KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats at me,
and 'arrange' to get my son out of the house, tomorrow, the 26th,
yep, he also had to randomly 'drop' the fact that that is tomorrow's date,
and yeah, that is 'that date' on which 'they' just luuvvv trying to
bash me to death.

The message was timely, because it addresses what it is
that I am most hated for;
simply, my faith, in The Perfect Justice of Our Loving Creator,
and that the countless blessings I've enjoyed, I've always credited to God,
and that it has never been in my heart to blame God, for my sins and errors,
or the evils of those who knowingly, willing, hate and fight God...
...as 'The Billy Ruben's' have always been desperate to force me to do,
by inflicting great injustices and evils on me AND MINE, then cackling,
"where's your god now"...while missing the point, that it is My God,
The Creator of us all, Who brought me into Their Lives, to be a witness
of His countless blessings, and warn them against choosing to reject
The Saving Grace of His Living Word.

*KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats:
you know, the sort of things diagnosed sociopaths just have to
admit behind closed doors, like admissions of past crimes against
you and promises of more to come, while sneering that 'no one
will believe you, including the police'; Just As His Very Public
Defender, 'Billy Ruben', keeps Publicly Boasting He Does, and
Publicly Threatening, To Do More and Worse.

Hey Suzy Ryan,
send my regards and love to your ex-hubby,Billy ruben2 Ryan,we have concluded after the meeting with the Australian Division of the Orange Order,to get your son out of the house,before I "Whack" you and take your head for payment,as we do sex rites and magic rituals with your corpse to curse you for your next life,I want you to come back as a fly,because,you'll be a maggot first,then,I'll catch you,then I'll pull your wings off and you wont be a fly anymore,but a Walk,then I swat you and you'll be a Dead...

Fark You Bitch...and your son should be left alone,cause you're a nutter,spreading shit in his brain...


lol!

Billy Ruben wrote:The above spammed bullshit is the usual crap she's been shoving down everybodies throats for the last two weeks.BOYS AND GIRLS AT HOME,DON'T YOU JUST HATE JESUS AND GOD WHEN IT COMES FROM THE FILTHY DYING CHASMS LIKE THIS LOUDMOUTHED FREAK.SHE DOES GOD A DIS-SERVICE...HAVE SONG BITCH...F*CK YOU GOD...



Billy Ruben wrote:"It is our duty to insult him,F*ck you god,Strike me down if you dare you tyrant,you non-existant fraud..."


thumbs up
lol! lol! lol! lol!

satan ccc
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Lilly,since you're brave because you stand by God and all that...can we have a nice picture of your face,please?
I'd like to design your very own Christian Prophetess Icon,it would be a gas and very,very funny!Trust me for once...



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Billy Ruben wrote:
el kabong wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Please don't spam my threads True Lilly,thankyou,love Billy...

she is Barking Mad isn't she Billyboy?

I found your reminiceings interesting until Lilly Queen of Bullshit showed up and flooded your Thread like she does everywhere on this Forum.

My condolences ol' chap.
tiphat

Thankyou...that's really want I want to do,write about the day that's been and other things,then,ya get SPAMMED TO DEATH AND OUT THE DOOR...it changes day to day,you come here to defend yourself from "babyfucker" allegations,then,you remember the free atmosphere and pink,then you remember you liked the place...so,good,you get bent,it's been a nice day and night,so,you offer the forum something a little different and get shat upon from forum prophet,although false she be,forum nutter,stalker,crazy woman,True lilly...

Glad you see it and thanks for the up about writing shit,appreciate it.Billy... thumbs up
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:...seems I'm not supposed to post what I found...

...PRAY.

that's right... thumbs up

It began like this

Billy Ruben wrote:then encrypted rambling spam...

then True lilly started to screaming insanely,because the need to SPAM was so great

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436 TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 281436... silent... silent... silent... ... Cool Wink

got to you did'nt it?

then half an hour later,you spammed,and did'nt you let it out.
You have a problem Suzy,besides being a closet pisspot.
Actually,come to think about it,you're irredeemable...

You have clear issues...I could've saved you the cost of a SMS,I replied,U R insane... wub TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 455573 wacky cheers


and what's worse,f*ck-all to use for the bloody Powerball.

Pissed off...

Billy Ruben wrote:then,sure as shit,easy to predict,Billy gets niggley...

she spams some more


Billy Ruben wrote:Lilly...

Listen here,there's no need to spam my fucking thread,ok?

I made it plain I read you fucking threads,got it?

No more fucking spam,you fucking old biddy... thumbs down cthulhu

I can't take it no more... aaargh

Billy Ruben wrote:...and thirst for blood,nearing a coronary,he refrains from swearing...

Billy Ruben wrote:So delving into her childhood by telepathic ethernet,I found rather disturbing,but strangely stimulating images and references..
Billy Ruben wrote:You see Lilly,being the country girl that you are and always been,...this is love.

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 11773485751237horsedick

Not just being a CHAMPION BREEDER,BUT YOU SEE,when you was little,most kids learn't,from dogs,the 70's my era,what swingers party was on for the night...and for me,the local toilet wall...and THAT was eye-opening.

But not you,no...out there on the meadows,soft breeze in your hair,dandelions float and sway dropping its seed in mysterious locations,just solitude,you and a horse with a rather large erect penis...


Billy Ruben wrote:which led to much deeper and psychological complexities turned into a positive and prosperous venture..

Billy Ruben wrote:But this love and fascination was not lost,now was it?
There was a market for horse stimulators and this sticky enterprise paid handsome dividends...

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Jobhorsespermbank

And yourself,being a proud and rather talented and gifted horse stimulator,made a nice handsome living...until much further down the track,when you discovered that copious ingestion of the spirit known as Gin,helped you contact the God Of Oztralia and soaked in Gin you delivereth...

Many unkind messages...


TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 155618horselaugh721137
Uh OK,True Lilly,your God gives Allah head...there,insulted???

There,take that and the toilet paper you keep quoting,The BlueLetterBible,suck on my littl'un...BIATCH!!!


lol!

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Billy Ruben wrote:She tried talking over the top of me,hahahahaha,I laughed in her face about exposing her for years of lies and relying on the generosity of others with those lies.I also said,the only reason she outed her name,phone number etc,was to lend credibilty to those lies...and that's excatly how it is...besides,she's completely mad.For now on,she only fools the fools,like Palomino,but others who suspected truth to her...there is none.She called me a big dickless cock and hung up...wooooooo,arguement defeating line that one...

rolf lol!

Billy Ruben wrote:It's a small forum dip-shit,you can't spam and hide and hope half a dozen posters will help bury it.How'd you feel about Cori being here last night,oh,that's right,hahahahahahahaha,you ran away and logged off,like you do everytime that tiny brain has no way of worming its way out,hahahahahaha...F*ck Yeah...

True Lilly wrote:

But on another matter:
This is a "dumb crime",
of 'Billy Ruben aka Jason aka Jase';
Received: 19-8-2011
Billy Ruben wrote:Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business
,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up
,cops wont help u

.up urs sweetie

True Lilly wrote:
No 'Billy Ruben', so why don't 'you' enlighten us,
as to WHY 'you' love to PUBLICLY BRAG that 'you' HAVE
POLICE WILLING TO ACT CORRUPTLY FOR 'YOU'?
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Just to make it clear;
how does 'Billy Ruben' believe this 'proves' that
I am 'not' a victim of bitter individuals who are also
criminally corrupt public officials, who cover each other's arses?

Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Says:

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Unled2fw

Billy Ruben wrote:Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business
,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up
,cops wont help u

.up urs sweetie
True Lilly wrote:And it get 'better'. Rolling Eyes Just in...

Billy Ruben wrote:Sucked in jewish dog
rooting lying slut,do u
know the real reason
i got the cops to
ignore u
,huh?ur a
goner
Billy Ruben wrote:Soon as negotiations
r finalised
demons
will disapear u,errrr!


Billy Ruben wrote:well,call the police and file a complaint

rolf


True Lilly wrote:
And it get 'better'. Rolling Eyes Just in...

Billy Ruben wrote:Prove it slag,someone must've hacked my phone,I did'nt say that.... rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

Billy Ruben wrote:For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!

Billy Ruben wrote:JUST RANG THE LYING COW,SHE AVOIDED ALL THE QUESTIONS HAD NOTHING TO SAY AND HER SPEECH WAS SO SLOWED AND SLURRED,SHE WAS DOSED UP ON SOMETHING,PITY,IT DOES'NT REMOVE HER DELUSIONS ABOUT EVERYONE SHE INTERACTS WITH.I WROTE HER OFF,NO SWEARING OR THREATS AND LAUGHED IN HER FACE FOR DESTROYING HER CREDIBILTY (VERY LITTLE OF) AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DENIES AND SPAMS AWAY,EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SHE'LL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT."sHE SAYS,I GOT TO GO NOW,THANKYOU",IN THAT HIDEOUS PIXIE SHIT TONE VOICE OF HERS,UGLY OUTSIDE AND UGLY TO THE BONE THAT ONE IS...THIS IS VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP WAY OVER THE LINE,FOR TOO LONG,THIS HAS BEEN COMING...SHE'S SO UGLY,YOU GOT NO IDEA,THE VULGARNESS OF ITS VOICE,HIDEOUS.HERE'S HER PHONE NUMBER:0424705576...SORRY,I CHOSE BROWN,BROWN FOR POOP THAT DRIVELS OUT HER MOUTH...

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Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note*
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:...or, a SHOVEL...
...'Billy Ruben', please stop threatening me with death,
over the phone...

...and in other ways...

it would be really nice if what I post Would appear AS I write and format it
first time, every time...
but that ain't gunna happen, is it....prob for the best....

LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR...AND PROVE IT!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!! lol!

iT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY,YES,SO WHY WASTE IT MAKING UP STORIES,THAT YOU LAUGH IN MY FACE,I DO THAT TO YOU,YOU HANG UP,EVERYTIME,YOU MISERABLE OLD GOAT.yOU GOT YOUR CRACKPOT MATES...AND I HAVE MY FAMILY,RIGHT HERE AND NOW,LOVING BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,SAME AS WHAT YOU USED TO HAVE,UNTIL YOU DID AN ABRAHAM...AND ACTUALLY SACRIFICED THEM FOR YOUR LOVING BENEVOLENT GOD,THAT PUT CHILDPORN ON YOUR PC,TOLD YOU HE'S A DEMON,BUT OH NO,YOU KNOW BETTER...STILL GOING THROUGH YOUR THREAD,QUIET YOU,OH,YOU SPAMMED,BAD GIRL,REVENGE...BUT SHE LIVES ALONE,SO WHO PUT THE CHILD-PORN THERE,SHE DID,TRYING TO SET HER FAMILY UP,OR SHE GENUINELY LIKES IT,WELL,SHE CAN TELL THAT TO THE JUDGE

rolf

Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!



Billy Ruben wrote:Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!




Billy Ruben wrote:and more babyfuckers and occultist,that she knows nothing about,hence the ineffective Kinesiology bullshit she recommends...TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Babyersinhospital

you are the babyfucker and have childporn,cause you're a sick fucked up unit and blame others,time for Gaol Suzy,I will use this next with the police,don't believe,just watch me,babyfucker...

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Hang on,I forgot,back in a sec...F*ck,God wiped my mind clear...ah,that's right,bumped,the thread of importance,the one that shows Suzys pre-occupation with child porn and accusing all and sundry of doing it,Go on,ring her phone,just to hear that evil,pixie voice of hers,she's a hideous troglydite...horrible,evil nasty witch,beware little children and puppies and especially little kitty friends,evil,pure evil...Hansel and Gretel met their end with this one long ago...she uses puppies instead of candy...
0424705576

...and like she accused Ozpixie as Christine,the one who blackmails men after making them F*ck goats and when I investigated,turns out True Lilly and I have no idea of her first name,she denies she made the post,when I found it and replicated it...lying bitch,but here's the truth...it's her and her mob,that sleep with the doggies...errrrrrr,Cthulhu

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now how does that feel dragon,to be on the receiving end...Grrr,take that!!!errrrrrrrrrrrrr,CTHULHU!!!...and you made me hate God,now,I hate you...GRRRRR




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true lilly wrote: rolling pin

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao rolf cheers

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
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One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.


In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.



Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet. thumbs up

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.
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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:13 am

Oh, and it was these posts quoted below,
that had me warned with banning here.


NOW
YOU KNOW WHY I WAS BANNED BEFORE THE AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL ELECTION: I
REFUSED TO BE SEDUCED OR THREATENED INTO BETRAYING MY COUNTRY


...THE WAY "BILLY RUBEN & Co." DO!

Remember, according to ICKE/TINTIN,
"it's all the jews fault", so we "must support their enemy",
TERRORIST ISLAM, if we don't want to be branded as,
"evil jews"...too late for me...they still can't find any religion
to fit what I post on, but didn't stop "Billy Ruben & tintin"
branding me a "jew"
Rolling Eyes
, for not wanting Australia to suffer
under SHARIA LAW.


Stop celebrating the trashing of values
Andrew Bolt
From:Herald Sun
August 27, 2011 12:00AM

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Anna Bligh: Turning a blind eye to David Hicks.
The Courier-Mail

IT'S always a mistake to make heroes of villains, and chic out of sick, but it's never more so than now.

Never in my lifetime have we seemed more in danger of fracturing into tribes ethnic, religious and social.


Never have we more needed to have examples set and moral codes affirmed so people are inspired to join, not divide.

But still our intelligentsia plays as being transgressive, like children fooling with a loaded gun.

Some examples, from just this month.

The Craig Thomson affair, of course, is the most toxic. What destructive
message does Labor send when it plays down the use of a union credit
card to pay for prostitutes and rip off workers?

But also look at the salons of this country, where the privileged toy with what would destroy us.

As Australia lost another soldier, killed by the Taliban in Afghanistan,
the Queensland Premier's Literary Awards shortlisted the memoirs of
David Hicks, who trained with the Taliban.

Related Coverage


Penberthy: Terrorist Dave's denial journey Adelaide Now, 1 day ago
I don't want prizemoney, says Hicks Perth Now, 2 days ago
Hicks shines in Bligh's literary universe The Australian, 3 days ago
Hicks nomination 'a win for democracy' The Australian, 3 days ago
Hicks book listing 'sign of a democracy' The Australian, 4 days ago

The soldier wins an early grave. Hicks may win $15,000, extracted from taxpayers by Premier Anna Bligh.

Be clear about Hicks.
His book may gloss over his training with some of
the world's worst terrorists, including al-Qaida, but his letters home
at the time boast about his then friends.

In May 2001, for
instance, he wrote: "By the way I have met Osama bin Laden 20 times now,
lovely brother, everything for the cause of Islam. The only reason the
West calls him the most wanted Muslim is because he's got the money to
take action."


So what did Bligh do, after learning that her prize could now go to Hicks?

She did ... nothing. "I think it's important that we not get in the way of
that," she said, as if enunciating some moral principle, rather than
amoral.

Such are the times. When Hicks in May was given the stage at the
taxpayer-funded Sydney Writers' Festival to promote his book, he got a
standing ovation.

When former prime minister John Howard went to the same
taxpayer-funded festival to sell his own autobiography, he was booed and
heckled as a "war criminal".

Another example.

Last October Howard was being interviewed on the ABC's Q&A program when a
member of the audience flung his shoes at him, shouting "that is for the Iraqi dead".

This kind of attack threatens democracy.

Who wants to get involved in public debates if it means exposing themselves
to this or worse?

Yet the ABC has now donated the sneakers for an auction to raise funds
for the Red Cross, headed by former Labor minister Robert Tickner.

It's for a good cause, they cry.

But would the ABC donate a protester's "ditch-the-witch" sign mocking Julia Gillard, and would the Red Cross proudly raffle it?

No, this is yet another endorsement of rudeness, even intimidation, and shame on those who trash our values.

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote: Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?

conspiracy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

collusion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/collusion

Learn some basic English.

Before MORE of YOUR "mates" REALIZE YOU ARE OUTING THEM.
Actually, from only a quick scroll down this page,
I'd say someone wanted you to show your instability,
and readiness to put your own hurt pride, above the
security of your 'mates'.

'Sifting and sorting', does go on in all camps, you know,
or is that concept above your comprehension to?
YES...THE WAY "BILLY RUBEN & Co." DO!
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true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

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A hooded youth walks past a burning vehicle in Hackney during the London riots.
Herald Sun

POLICE are monitoring more than 70 youth and street gangs in Melbourne
in the wake of the British riots.

Assistant commissioner Steve Fontana, speaking exclusively to the Herald Sun, said the threat of isolated riots in Melbourne was real.
"We are certainly looking at what the lessons are from the UK. Yes, we've
still got a lot of work to do with our youth," he said.
"Could it happen in pockets? Yes, it could. Would it blow out across Melbourne? I doubt it."
Mr Fontana revealed:
LAW enforcement agencies across the nation are reviewing communications
laws to see what could be done to shut down the sort of riot inciting
SMS and texts that spread unrest
in Britain and kept troublemakers a
step ahead of the police.
ABOUT 40 gangs are active in the city's northwest alone.

Related Coverage

Police bid to prevent riots Herald Sun, 2 hours ago
An eerie quiet before violent firestorm Adelaide Now, 9 Aug 2011
Review on gang violence in suburbs Herald Sun, 30 Jul 2011
Cops join forces to wage war on bikies The Australian, 27 Jul 2011
20th arrest over bikie riot Adelaide Now, 24 Jun 2011

GANGS are subject to regular intelligence assessments, but this
information isn't always available to police on the streets because of
the force's outdated database.
The force refuses to say exactly how many gangs
are active in the city or what it knows about the
hundreds of members and their activities.
A Freedom of Information request seeking details of gang names, locations, numbers
and suspected activities was rejected by the force before the UK riots.
But Mr Fontana assured the public that police here would not be caught off guard.
Hesays our strong economy, greater engagement with troubled youths and
large number of responsible young people makes UK-style riots less
likely here.
"There's always a possibility, I think Cronulla showed there is always a possibility of these things occurring."
Mr Fontana said naming gangs or detailing their suspected strengths or activities would be unfair.
"Not all of them may have a criminal background and that's part of the issue."
In just a few minutes on the internet, theHerald Sun
discovered the names of 40 gangs from across the city, many of which
have been involved in stabbings and violent brawls, often in central
Melbourne.
The figures suggest Melbourne has between 70 and 100 gangs.
Mr Fontana said gang membership tended to be fluid, often with a small core.
He said many were short-lived and not all were violent, with some linked
to graffiti or other public nuisance activities rather than serious crime.

Some were racially or sport based while others were so-called "postcode" gangs,
which could be little more than local kids who took their schoolyard fights to the streets.

Gangs have been linked to assaults, stabbings and brawls, a Molotov cocktail attack on a
train, the firebombing of a home and attacks with deadly weapons including machetes, tomahawks, Tasers, bars, baseball bats, bottles, and knuckle-dusters.
"They
don't really contribute to a large volume of crime but there is concern
in some areas because of the nature and severity of the violence," Mr
Fontana said.
"If they become violent we do target their activities. When we have a problem we will focus on it."
He acknowledged police were at times targets of gang violence.
"We are often confronted with groups ... who want to take us on - some of them are armed."
Melbourne's gangs regularly use social media such as Facebook and Twitter to organise and recruit.
"There's always potential to shut down networks but implications of that could
cost someone their life by taking away their ability to communicate in
an emergency," Mr Fontana said.
The force has also invested heavily in boosting its presence in trouble spots such as train stations.
mickelburoughp@heraldsun.com.au

Yep, seems everyone in the world can twitter and blog and forum away
on any and every bit of Main Stream News, and even dig and hack into
private communications to endanger OUR SOLDIERS, everyone but me...
the woman who reads The News with Reference to what Holy Scripture
Warned us to Watch for.
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:05 am

...this is how it really panned out without her inventive editing...so embarressing as you will see

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?
Billy Ruben wrote:...No please,do go on... popcorn
Billy Ruben wrote:...well,despite all my efforts,you survived the 26th of August 2011...but please,enthrall me with your side of the story...

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true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?

conspiracy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

collusion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/collusion

Learn some basic English.

Before MORE of YOUR "mates" REALIZE YOU ARE OUTING THEM.
Billy Ruben wrote:look,you offered your side,now you piked out,spit it out or go f*ck yourself... thumbs down

I'll show you mine,IF,you show me yours first thumbs up
True Lilly wrote:
Actually, from only a quick scroll down this page,
I'd say someone wanted you to show your instability,
and readiness to put your own hurt pride, above the
security of your 'mates'.

'Sifting and sorting', does go on in all camps, you know,
or is that concept above your comprehension to?


Did you ever consider what this little conversation reveals about you Suzy Ryan?The fact you started it and then refused to answer your own statement,avoiding it on the weak grounds that I need a dictionary...You see,dipshit,I knew you just wanted to fill that page up because you can't stand to see the glaring truth...it won't go away,but I'm pleased you did it,,you destroy your own credibilty that you think you have and prove my point even more...ARE YOU THAT STUPID NOT TO SEE IT...

Have you thought about,during the phone calls,I knew you had someone staying with you,possibley family...so I kept repeating the same PM that you wrote and highlighted your lies so they could see it too...now you kicked them out again from your life...do you get it honey???What I was really up too.

I know you Suzy,I know you don't FIGHT alone but employ every dirty trick and get others to help you...I make them see your lies...and it's either make you see it,or they walk out from you,or worse,they swallow the lies,make them eat shit,but they know inside,they sold out...HAVE YOU GOT IT YET,what I am costing you...think you're smart,hehehehe...you got know idea ...none at all.Hope you think it was worth it,the edge of the abyss is coming and you're in a speeding car...instead of hitting the brakes...I know you'll nail it top gear...Oh,can I have the ginger and white cat before you do...show us a picture,or was that a lie too.to buy my good side???


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Post  MoMo Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:45 am

Kitty Kats protest Suzis aka Tru Lilly Spamming!!!!!! plus, she complained about 'cat Posts', what kind of savage barbarian is she???? Take heed suzi wuzi aka tru lilly, we'll shit in your hats and garden!!!!

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fuk suzis aka tru lillys complaints about Kity Kat Posts. lmao rolf thumbs up

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Post  mugglez Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Kabbalah simply means "to receive", but many generally think of Kabbalah as a form of religion, or as Eastern mysticism. Having a basic understanding of Kabbalah can be quite helpful if you come up against ideas of those who use Kabbalah to shape their ideas about spirituality.



Kabbalah is not a single system where all involved utilize the same basic principles, those who promote Kabbalist ideologies can be extremely duplicitous and deceptive. So hence some of the caution against studying Kabbalah. On the other hand, those who insist all Kabbalah is bad are generally ignorant and/or threatened by something they have little or no knowledge of. Anyone who communicates anything "spiritual" or who believes they have "received" insight from "the Spirit" are essentially teaching their own form of "Kabbalah".



There are mainstream ideas within "Kabbalah" that everyone should know about and be able to discuss, whether they agree or disagree with its interpretations. For example, take a brief survey of the list of words below, how do you define them? Where did you learn about their definitions?



Abba Adam Kadmon Akedah Anthropomorphism Antinomianism Apocalyptic Atonement

Ba'al Circumcision Da'at End of Days Exorcism Gehinnom Gematria Gevurah

Grace after meals Halacha Hod Holy Spirit Kedushah Kavod Messiah Metatron

Nefesh Olam haba Pardes Passover Prayer Prophetic Redemption Remez

Resurrection Sabbath Sacrifice Sefirot Sexuality Sinai Temple

Throne Tiferet Toledot Adam Torah Tikkun Olam

Tree of Knowledge Tree of Life Trinity

Virgin Mary World Zodiac




Each of the above words represents a meaning that each of us has a "relationship" with. There are infinite "connections" within these words, each one has many levels of meaning and understanding. Let's look at a set of names in Torah called the Toledot Adam (the line, or genealogy of Adam). The "given" names of Adams descendants to Noah are straightforward, these are "normal" Biblical names until we look a bit deeper. What is going on? Can you see a hidden meaning beneath these common individual names? You decide. In my mind what the meaning derived from the sequential meaning is no coincidence. There is universe of thought underlying these names, a hidden code to be "received". It speaks of Mashiyach.



Toledot Adam Bereshit 5

(Geneology of Adam from Genesis 5)

HEBREW NAME ENGLISH DEFINITION
ADAM MAN
SETH APPOINTED
ENOSH MORTAL
CAINAN SORROW
MAHALEEL BLESSED ELOHIM
YARED SHALL COME DOWN
ENOCH TEACHING
METHUSELAH HIS DEATH SHALL BRING
LAMECH DESPAIRING
NOACH COMFORT



MAN [is] APPOINTED MORTAL SORROW,

[but a] BLESSED ELOHIM SHALL COME DOWN

TEACHING [that] HIS DEATH SHALL BRING

[the] DESPAIRING COMFORT



MAGNIFICENT! YHWH ordained the Hebrew Names in the Toledot Adam to tell the story of Yeshua coming to earth to bring Comfort! Even SALVATION to His people! However, trying to understand Kabbalah or trying to connect with YHWH and His Mashiyach without Torah is to venture off into darkness and eventually the soul will be tormented.



True kabbalah is meant to establish the Word of YHWH in our neshama (spirit),

and to strengthen and confirm our relationship with Master YHWH.



There are many levels to receiving YHWH's wisdom, knowledge and understanding. The Adversary (HaSatan) twists that which is good and distorts it for evil purposes. However, if we focus on the Kabbalah that is revealed inside of Tanakh and the Ketuvim Netzarim, we discover magnificent revelation about YHWH, His Mashiyach, and the Life He has given each of us.



Within the Mishkan (Tabernacle), we also discover the image of Mashiyach revealed. Consider the Ark of the Covenant and the Mercy Seat in the Holy of Holies as the Head, and the Holy Place as the chest. In your mind stand the Mishkan on end with the Holy of Holies at the top. Picture the Table of Shewbread to the right side of the body, the Menorah to the left side, the alter of incense in the center right below the head, and the laver below that, and the alter below that and the door of entrance below that. YHWH revealed Mashiyach according to the how the Mishkan was arranged. As we study Torah and Mashiyach we can look inside our own souls and discover who we are in Him. We receive from the Spirit of YHWH something that is greater than the peshat (simple) sum of the parts. We can see how there can only be One Elohim whose Name is YHWH, Who knows about us and who communicates to us on a wonderful spiritual level. There are many imposter "spirits" which is why were are taught:



"And he that keeps His commandments dwells in Him, and He in him.

And hereby we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He has given us.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of Elohim:

because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 John 3:24-4:1




Here's the acid test. When we "keep His Commandments we "receive" His Spirit. When we don't keep His Commandments then we open our souls up to lying and deceiving spirits, it's just that simple.



In the days of Yeshua, the writings of the prophets of YHWH were known as "The Kabbalah". Today it is common for Christians or "Believers" to talk about "hearing from the The Spirit of YHWH (or the LORD). This is the hope and desire of everyone who puts their trust in Mashiyach. We desire that YHWH would communicate and reveal His will to us, help us conform our lives to Him. We are each unique souls created in the "image of Elohim" and we must have this confidence that we are worshipping YHWH in Spirit and Truth according to His Word. Each of us has received "Kabbalah" in our souls, this is our spiritual experience with YHWH and His Mashiyach. On a very personal and private level Kabbalah is all about intimacy with YHWH and seeking to do His will, but, for some it is about learning how to manipulate spiritual and material worlds to attain wealth or power, which is also known as witchcraft.



Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul) was one of the most vocal "Kabbalistic" Apostles. In Ephesians 6 Paul teaches us to put on the whole armor of Elohim, while juxtaposing the tactics of the Enemy. He applies these "Kabbalistic" elements from Tanakh to help the Body of Mashiyach overcome the whiles of the enemy. Paul draws out deeply embedded elements of Mashiyach (see Spiritual Armor p. 957 AENT 3rd Ed) from Scripture according to things he "received" from the Spirit of YHWH. However, Paul's letters are also the most twisted part of the New Testament, Peter writes, "As also in all his (Paul's) letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to understand, which they that are unlearned and unstable twist, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:16 Reason being, our carnal human nature tries to intellectualize the spiritual worlds rather than seeing YHWH's Commandments as "applied Kabbalah", as the work of the Ruach haKodesh writing Torah (part of the image of Elohim) upon our hearts.



Our homes are places of shelter, love, provision etc, we nurture a shalom biyet (house of wholeness) where the Spirit of YHWH is made welcome, and where we establish a gate of righteousness. Scripture tells us that every word from our mouths has natural and spiritual consequences. So imagine if each of us elevated our homes as a holy sanctuary, where no unkind or angry or malicious words felt comfortable. What if we could program the "jurisdiction" of our homes and everything within the borders of our gates according to Mashiyach? This is Torah. Torah is replete with jurisdictional elements of spirituality, but the reason many of us cannot "enter in" is because we follow a religion that interprets Torah according to certain traditions whether they be Jewish or Christian, rather than "receiving" Torah from Mashiyach.



Imagine your home as a sanctuary of peace and harmony. Joy and Peace is the predominate attribute. All anti-Messiah elements like religious discrimination, carnal sensuality, perversion, vain talking, lust, etc are awkward, unwelcome and do not belong.



The dinner table is an alter where we pray, fellowship and eat together with those we love. While we are having dinner together we are reminded of YHWH's goodness throughout the day, His bountiful provisions, having our family, our friends, and many good things He gives us to enjoy each day, all provided to us by His outstretched Hand. We are also reminded of those who don't know our Father and His love and His provisions as we've been blessed. Our thoughts and prayers and plans to help others often come together around the table where we eat together.



The table where we eat is a place of giving thank offerings, peace offerings and praise offerings for what YHWH has done for us in His Mashiyach. We remember the cup of wine and the bread and the words of Mashiyach Y'shua who said... "I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of Elohim shall come." (Luke 22:18) When we do the brachot (blessings) we remember that the King of the Universe reigns over our souls our families, our homes and over the borders of our gates. This is why we sanctify our homes unto YHWH and we separate ourselves to YHWH and protect ourselves and our family from unclean spirits and carnal worldly things.



The marriage bed is holy and set apart unto YHWH. What if all "Believers" were able to"receive" a the Way of maintaining Joy, Peace and Justice in their marriages? What impact would it have if every married couple and every child knew that going home meant they would have a place of safety, respect, honor and be loved and cherished? Much of the unity of the home is derived from the honor of the marriage bed and the love and unity between a husband and wife.



The problem is many Believers don't even think it's possible to "receive" deeper levels of beauty and harmony into their lives and homes. Understanding functional "kabbalah" helps us to "raise the bar", we can open our minds to "holy thoughts" and translate that into holy actions. Clearly evil forces have put fear into people's minds about "kabbalah"... but Mashiyach said...



"The truth will set you free..."



And the spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of YHWH: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

Isaiah 11:2-5




HaMashiyach Y'shua demonstrated:



1) Spirit of YHWH

2) Wisdom

3) Understanding

4) Counsel

5) Might

6) Knowledge

7) Fear of YHWH




"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,

and a Netzer (Sprout) shall grow out of his roots:"

Isaiah 11:1



Y'shua Mashiyach is the Netzer (Sprout) which grew out of the Root of Ye'shai (Jesse), these Seven Attributes signify the Character and Calling of HaMashiyach. Each of these "attributes" are very unique. These are the "SEVEN Spirits of YHWH" Revelations 5:6. The Scriptures reveal that the FEAR of YHWH is the beginning of WISDOM. This is "kabbalah", it is the Seventh attribute, mentioned many times throughout Scripture. Five times Scripture tells us that the FEAR of YHWH brings Wisdom. In an additional two more verses FEAR and WISDOM are mentioned in the same verse, bringing a total of SEVEN references in Scripture that connects the Fear of YHWH with Wisdom. But false religion for example outright rejects the "FEAR" of YHWH. Religions teach a theology that the FEAR of YHWH is not really FEAR, but REVERENCE, or LOVE, but the word fear is YIRAH, which is "fear". Albeit a very unique and special "fear" that is given expressly unto YHWH, and mentioned 45 times in Scripture.



"And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the YIRAH (fear) of Elohim is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake."

B'resheet/Genesis 20:11



"And Moshe said unto the people, "YAREH (Fear) not: for Elohim is come to prove you, and that His YIRAH (Fear) may be before your faces, that ye sin not."

Shemot/Exodus 20:20



"Who knows the power of thine anger?

even according to thy YIRAH (fear), so is your wrath!"

Psalm 90:11



"Then were the men Gadol Yirah Yareh (exceedingly "fearful" afraid), and said unto him, Why have you done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of YHWH, because he had told them."

Jonah 1:10




Notice the last verse Gadol Yirah Yareh. The Fear of YHWH "YIRAH" is linked with "Yareh", which means fear, afraid, terror etc. But what false authority has done, is to use theology to make an image of it's own god, and in fact their "fear" is taught by the theology of men.



"Wherefore Adonai (the Master) said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their YIRAH (fear) toward me is taught by the precept of men:"

Isaiah 29:13




False theology depicts their gods as being a nice god of love, forgiving all willful and perpetual sins according to a man made image of god. Certainly YHWH *is* love, "Because Elohim is love; and whoever does not love, does not know Elohim." (1 John 4:Cool Those who teach that the Fear of YHWH is not FEAR, but REVERENCE, find their religious roots in Marcion, the guy who coined the words "Old and New Testament". Many Christian Bible theologians, translated the word Hebrew Yareh and Shachah into the word REVERENCE. This is how hirelings and false authorities keep the money rolling into their churches and synagogues, they preach acceptance, relativity and tolerance of sin and evil, rather than intimacy with Father YHWH.



Fear of YHWH is a spiritual connection between us and our Father. When we are in the valley of decision, whether we will sanctify His Name, keep Torah, suffer for Mashiyach's name, lose our jobs, get kicked out of a church or synagogue by standing for truth etc, it's at these times that our "FEAR" of YHWH overrules the fear of man. What false leaders want us to do is fear them, be afraid of being rebuked or chastened or finding ourselves on the bad side of the rabbi, priest or pastor. So what they have done is diminish our responsibility to YHWH and His Mashiyach, but advocating that we NOT Fear YHWH, but rather fear them. This is very obvious when "believers" have difficult decisions to make and rather than seek YHWH they run to a rabbi, pastor or priest for their answer and consolation.



No, again it's how you can "receive" your understanding of FEAR, whether it be taught to you by theology or by "receiving" this within your own spirit according to the Word of YHWH being written upon your heart.



"You shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence (yareh) my sanctuary: I am YHWH." Shemot/Exodus 19:30



"And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate, bowed, and (shachah) reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence."

Esther 3:2




"Shachah" is most commonly translated as worship, bow down, make obeisance etc. The false church system has completely and utterly removed the original and true FEAR of YHWH right out of their churches, in so doing they've opened the door to all manner of counterfeit teachings.



The FEAR of YHWH is an extremely important revelation for the Body of Mashiyach. What is the FEAR of YHWH then? YHWH is a SPIRIT, an intimate FEAR of YHWH is something we must receive from YHWH, it is not a theology but a LIVING SPIRIT which YHWH puts in His people to help us from falling into carnal living and sinning against His Word.



The FEAR of YHWH becomes a "spiritual instinct"; a quality of discernment that allows us to see the boundaries YHWH has given us according to His Word. KADOSH (SET-APART) also depicts the boundaries or set-apart Nature of YHWH and all that pertains to Him, including His people. This is something to be "received" of the Ruach HaKodesh. Personal living "KABBALAH" is vital, it has extensive ramifications when it comes to our perception of YHWH and Y'shua. Speaking of RAMifications, let's consider Avraham and Yitzhak.



When Avraham was about to sacrifice his son Yitzhak, YHWH spoke through him,

"Abraham said, My son, Elohim (G-d) will provide himself

a SEH (LAMB) for a burnt offering:"

Genesis 22:8

Five verses later we read,



"And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked,

and behold behind him a 'AYIL (RAM) caught in a thicket by his horns:"

Genesis 22:13.



The SEH (Lamb) YHWH promised to Avraham is Yeshua the Word of YHWH. Avraham "received" this from YHWH. It was Mashiyach who spoke with Avraham, Yitzhak and Ya'akov, the WORD OF YHWH who said He would provide HIMSELF A LAMB. The WORD of YHWH is Pure and Faithful. So mankind tortured and put to death the Perfect Lamb of Elohim, who by His suffering took away our sin and empowers us to live free of sin. Who killed Mashiyach? You and I or was it the Jews or the Romans? Again, religion offers another gospel that takes the responsibility for sin off their flocks and puts it on others.



There is NO other acceptable "sin sacrifice" available today. When we speak of sacrifice we speak of an exchange of our debt of sin for forgiveness. If we can "receive" this truth, then we must realize that when we hurt another person, even unintentionally, we are indebted to make restitution and be restored with them in Mashiyach. The single most important reality in our existence is that we only enjoy so many wonderful things in this LIFE because it has been paid for us.



The majority of people on earth believe in the concept and ideals of Mashiyach. About one in four people on earth believe Yeshua is Mashiyach. That a person would even BELIEVE in something metaphysical or spiritual that they can't physically touch is "kabbalah". Kabbalah is spiritual revelation regardless of whether we believe or not that we are also "spiritual beings". The fact is that we exist, body, soul and SPIRIT, so it's not a matter of whether a person accepts or rejects the idea of kabbalah. It's a matter of which "kabbalah" we will choose and which one chooses us.



If you're reading this paper, it's most likely that you are choosing to learn the kabbalah of YHWH and His Mashiyach Yeshua, not the Kabbalah of man, or some anti-Messiah cult religion. The WAY to learn kabbalah from the Ruach HaKodesh is to keep YHWH's Commandments. Meditate on His Word. Choose to do what YHWH says. Rejoice in our Father YHWH. It is YHWH who gave us Life and Who sustains life.



"Then said his wife unto him, Do you still retain your integrity? curse Elohim, and die.

But he said unto her, you speak as one of the foolish women speaks.

What? shall we QABAL (receive) good at the hand of Elohim,

and shall we not QABAL (receive) evil?

In all this Job did not sin with his lips."

Job 2:9,10



"Hear counsel, and QABAL (receive) instruction,

that you may be wise in your latter end."

Proverbs 19:20



Throughout Y'shua's ministry he opened up our spirits by teaching "Truly I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of Elohim as a little child, he shall not enter therein." Mark 10:15



John taught that "...A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven" John 3:27



Y'shua taught things that were difficult for many to understand and accept, when addressing those who would become eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom he said "...All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given." Matthew 19:11



"And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for He dwells with you, and shall be in you." John 14:16-17



Regrettably, many "believers" refuse to receive the "comforter", they have settled for a theology or a religious identity about spirituality rather than choosing to live life as spiritual beings. Many cannot turn from rebellion and lies and gossip against Torah and Mashiyach and YHWH's people because they have not loved the Father according to His Word and Spirit. The Way back (teshuva) to the Father is through repentance and humility and acknowledging our sins and doubts to Him, along with those who are His people. If we judge ourselves by ourselves we are very foolish. The standard we are judge ourselves by is Mashiyach Y'shua himself. Ask YHWH to reveal to us who we are. If someone asks, "who are you?" What would you say? Do you know, or have you simply prepared an answer? I pray that you will receive your answer from YHWH according to His Ruach haKodesh.



"And Y’shua said to them again, “Peace be with you.

As my Father has sent me, I also send you.”

And when he said these things, he breathed on them

and said to them, “Receive the Ruach haKodesh.”

John 20:22

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Post  true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:54 pm

le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 832261

SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'...and thanks to all who rejected God's
WARNING WORD, that described the times
and locations to watch for, 'They' nearly do...
AFTER WRECKING MOST OF THE WORLD,
as 'They' have been doing, through the GREENIE LIES
of 'Their' 'secular'/SATANIC propaganda.

DANIEL 11:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Dan&c=11&t=KJV#40
40;
And at the time 6256 of the end 7093
shall the king 4428 of the south 5045 push 5055 at him:
and the king 4428 of the north 6828
shall come against him like a whirlwind 8175 ,
with chariots 7393, and with horsemen 6571,
and with many 7227 ships 591;
and he shall enter 935 into the countries 776,
and shall overflow 7857 and pass over 5674 .


45;
And he shall plant 5193 the tabernacles 168
of his palace 643 between the seas 3220
in the glorious 6643 holy 6944 mountain 2022;

yet he shall come 935 to his end 7093,
and none shall help 5826 him.


...and this still isn't it, but it isn't unrelated...
Oh dear, - Jane, Liverpool, UK, 19/10/2011 16:13,
Queen Elizabeth is our Monarch,
and Australia, with it's tiny 21+ million population,
can afford to offer to help
your precious EU countries
out of their financial mess.

We are not a 'Banana Republic' because we are not a republic.

And something for all Australian's to consider:

how do you think an elected head of state of a country
this rich in natural resources, this large in area, and this tiny in population,
could prevent all those militarily powerful, population rich
but resource poor nations, from raiding us blind,
without Our Royal Family, watching over us?

- Lilly, Ballarat, Australia, 20/10/2011 3:06

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050818/Queen-Elizabeth-arrives-Australia-tour-country.html#ixzz1bFZjHfu3

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Her Majesty the Queen's Personal Flag for Australia
-
Since the 1964 Royal Visit of Australia, HM Queen Elizabeth II
has used in Australia a distinctive personal flag,
rather than the Royal Standard

used when she is in the United Kingdom.
The flag is a banner of the Australian Coat of Arms
with a badge consisting of the Commonwealth Star
upon which is the Queen's Royal badge
showing her initial surmounted by a crown
and surrounded by a garland of roses and wattle.

Note that the Western Australian swan
faces away from the hoist,
the same as in the Coat of Arms.

The correct proportions are 22 x 31, not
the 1 x 2 proportions
that are used for other British Royal Standards.
true lilly wrote:Should Julia Gillard have curtsied to the Queen?

Yes70.97% (1719 votes)
No
29.03% (703 votes)

Total votes: 2422
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Should Australia abandon the monarchy and become a republic?

Yes
36.7% (1042 votes)
No 63.3% (1797 votes)

Total votes: 2839
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true lilly wrote:Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders. TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 93349TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 832261TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! 93349
true lilly wrote:Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?

Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!


Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.


Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing
in May.


It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
he was ready to step aside today in the face of the government's attitude.

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CAUGHT OUT: The Greens' Sarah Hanson-Young's collusion
with the Commonwealth Ombudsman to script some questions
for the statutory officer to answer at a Senate Estimates Committee
make a mockery of the party's stated commitment to transparency and accountability. Picture: Isaac Lawrence Source: The Courier-Mail

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Ombudsman apologises over questions Adelaide Now, 1 day ago
Ombudsman Allan Asher apologises for writing questions
to Senator Sarah Hanson-Young

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Commonwealth Ombudsman Allan Asher
handles complaints and inquiries from the public


It said Mr Asher will talk to his staff today before making a statement.
_________________________________________________________
Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.
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...but I will add:
during his 3 weeks here, touring
This Glorious Land every day of those 3 weeks,

Evil or Very Mad 'TINTIN' SPAT VENOM at Evil or Very Mad
EVERY MEMORIAL TO OUR SOLDIERS,
Who FOUGHT, DIED
and WERE TORTURED as P.O.W.'s
!


Yes, 'TINTIN', who RAILED AT ME,
in defence of HIS DUTCH QUEEN BEE-TRIX,
"SHE'S STILL MY QUEEN!"

"SHE IS STILL MY QUEEN!"
(Beatrix of The Netherlands),

was the First of MANY Angry rants
I received from one unstable 'poster'
(who's actual position is WAY 'above' that),
who would swing from declarations
of love, and admiration for my 'genius',
to LOUD SHOUTS of "TRAITOR", "JEW",
and then have those abuses instantly
FORGIVEN and Forgotten on claiming
to be DRUNK...AND gain More "FANS"
for those ('drunk' with), hate filled attacks.

Well, again I have to remind readers that
IT WAS FARADAY who POSTED, that TNBTN
thread doesn't 'break' CODES but USES CODE
to ORDER ATTACKS...then he also promptly,
turned on and attacked me, when I failed to
RUN Screaming In Fear of the Obvious Threats
(many of which have been carried out), still there,
PRECEDING and clearly referring to NAMES, and
ACTIONS they carried out, for any who know what
DOES goes on here, to see for themselves.

Well with that in mind, and KNOWING I Post
what God said,
That THE KING of The NORTH
WILL FAIL in his Final Push at
AUSTRALIA,
The Glorious Promised Land, consider
what IS
CODED in this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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KARST dead 1 MAY

HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.



Oh, there are more 'personal' details, in the full post below, but
as they are DESIGNED to HIDE the real intent in DEAFENING"Noise",
I thought I'd give you UNinvolved, innocent readers, a hand in
recognising, WHY 'they' also put so much effort into off topic post
demanding you all believe I'm 'paranoid'...ha, I WISH I WERE,
it would sure HURT LESS than SMASHED, BROKEN BONES and
The HORROR of SEEING My DAUGHTER'S CAR BLOWN UP outside
HER BEDROOM WINDOW, and other such, 'bothers'
that CARING
To FREELY PUBLISH GOD'S LOVING WORD,
EARNS me FROM 'them'.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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DOG and ALBANIA

WAG the DOG is about creating a WAR with ALBANIA.
The SPIN DOCTORS need to distract the electorate from
a presidential SEX SCANDAL and construct a fake war with ALBANIA.

DOGS BARK

DOGS
BARKING
ALBANIA

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ALBEN BARKLEY

You have WAG THE DOG combined in this BARKING ALBEN.
Vice president under TRUMAN.

That TIME cover was on 28 JULY 1952.

I have just linked COMEDIAN WILL ROGERS
to commander WILL ROGERS of the USS VINCENNES
and also of the USS CUSHING.

Will Rogers born on
the DogIron Ranch


Tha's DOG and IRAN.
The real WAG the DOG story is the WAR WITH IRAN.
All WARS are WAG the DOG stories.
They are all fake...

ALBANIA and TIRANA.
IRAN and TEHRAN.

VANN and AMERICA were the parents of WILL ROGERS.
VANCOUVER and VANN.

WILL ROGERS and his MOTHER was AMERICA.
The MOTHER road or Main street of AMERICA. WILL ROGERS HIGHWAY.

WILL ROGERS, born on 4 NOVEMBER.

WHITE HOUSE

Will Rogers. Here his full name

WHITE HOUSE at PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
PENNSYLVANIA named after WILLIAM PENN.
WILLIAM PENN ROGERS.

WILLIAM PENN was born same date as EISENHOWER.
EISEN is IRON in german and WILL ROGERS was born
in "THE WHITE HOUSE" on the DOG IRON ranch....

Now to ADAIR.....
RED ADAIR was a legendary OIL WELL firefighter.

RED ADAIR

This is the wiki pic. Why this horrible pic?
it leads to WILLIAM BARKER CUSHING.

The night of OCTOBER 27 and 28. The RAID on the ALBEMARLE.

ADAIR
RAID

RED ADAIR and OIL WELLS that are BURNING....
We have seen that in the IRAQ wars and in KUWAIT....

Red Adair dead on
birthday MATA HARI


He died 7 AUGUST 2004.

RONALD REAGAN as the crucial link that combines all.

That highschool was NOT named after RONALD REAGAN but
after JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN.
School in HOUSTON and HOUSTON was incorporated
on the date RONALD REAGAN died. 5 JUNE.

This JOHN H. REAGAN died on 6 MARCH.
Birthday KARST TATES, thec attacker of the DUTCH ROYALS.
ALBEN BARKLEY died 30 APRIL, day of the ATTACK.

John HENNINGER Reagan

HENNINGER leads to FRANKFURT Germany.

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HENNINGER Tower Frankfurt

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN died on the birthday of KARST TATES.

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KARST dead 1 MAY
HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.


KARST and KROON.

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KARSTEN KROON wins
HENNINGER TURM

He won it TWICE. Last time was 2008. The year before
KARST attacked the KROON.

KARST and KROON in dutch is KARST-EN-KROON.

Here the list of the latest winners of the HENNINGER TURM.

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN was a TEXAS Politician.
KARST TATES as TAXI driver Travis Bickle.....


ha, and funny thing here is, that when I was stranded,
alone, smashed up, on crutches at the police station
for hours, after leaving the hospital, it was "THE" Indian
TAXI DRIVER who was 'Bashed', who, REFUSED to take me
home because I didn't have enough money, THEN...not like
I could 'RUN away' and not pay a few days later, and 'they' all
KNEW there was no one else coming to 'rescue me' TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Rolleyes
in fact, 'they' wouldn't so much as call Victims of Crime or
The Salvos, to DO THEIR JOB and assist me, no I was finally
delivered to my house 'they' KNOW 'they' have the Keys to,
and dumped, alone, with no phone, computer, money, food
or friend to help my crippled body around a house still
trashed and covered in broken glass...and the 'message'
To You readers, is, 'if you don't want the same MIStreatment,
DON'T DARE share her Faith', but SERIOUSLY, who wants to
FOLLOW those so WEAK and LOW that even in such violent,
large and 'powerful' Gangs, CAN'T break the Faith of one,
little old woman, who ONLY TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Smile has God to lean on TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD: HIS thread THE BIBLE! Biggrin!
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Post  mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:22 am

you claim your a 'prophet of god' yet all you do is lie and twist and deform ther Holy Scriptures..................... thumbs up

le sabrage wrote:Yahshua's Kabbalah

http://rabdavis.org/yahshuas%20%20kabbalah.htm

Mark 9: 1 “Yes!” he went on, “I tell you that there are some people standing here who will not experience death until they see the Kingdom Of G-d come in a powerful way!” 2 Six days later, Yahshua took Kefa, Ya‘akov and Yochanan and led them up a high mountain privately. As they watched, he began to change form, 3 and his clothes became dazzlingly white, whiter than anyone in the world could possibly bleach them. 4 Then they saw Eliyahu and Moshe speaking with Yahshua. 5 Kefa said to Yahshua, “It’s good that we’re here, Rabbi! Let’s put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moshe and one for Eliyahu.” 6 (He didn’t know what to say, they were so frightened.) 7 Then a cloud enveloped them; and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” 8 Suddenly, when they looked around, they no longer saw anyone with them except Yahshua. (Jewish NT)



Those of you who are attending kabbalah class know that Jewish Mysticism, which is known today as Kabbalah is the private instruction of a rabbi to his Talmidim as opposed to Mishnah, which denoted a rabbis' public ministry that his Talmidim were to pass on.



In the foregoing passage, we have the culmination of the Kabbalah of Yahshua and he warns His disciples not to reveal the vision of the Transfiguration until after He is resurrected.



Sha'ul also wrote of Kabbalah when he spoke of the transmigration of his soul in 2 Cor. 12:2-4.



Kabbalah also informs of a technique allowing one to enter into "Paradise," the eternal Garden of Eden adjacent to the Chariot-Throne that is fraught with danger.



In general Kabbalah is about our cleaving to G-d and approaching His Throne. Elijah, Ezekiel, Yahshua and Sha'ul all seem to have been familiar with kabbalistic techniques.

In the reading of the Transfiguration (Matthew 16:28-17:13; Mark 9:1-13; Luke 9:27-36) we have a glimpse into Yahshua's kabbalah. We see Yahshua taking three of His Disciples - Peter, James, and John climbing above the villages, up the slopes of Mount Hermon or Mount Lebanon as Josephus called it in his Antiquities to an ancient site of worship.



On mount Hermon Yahshua here followed the example of Moshe who took three of his followers Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu up Mount Sinai where they ate and drank to celebrate the vision of the G-d of Israel on His sapphire throne (Ex. 24:1-11). But unlike what happened on Moshe's mountain, Yahshua's disciples, covered by a cloud of glory, heard a voice say, " This is my son, the beloved, in whom I take pleasure: hear Him (Matthew 9:Cool and when the cloud passed they found Yahshua without Moshe and Elijah (Mark 9:Cool standing alone as G-d's son. "Divine son" was the same designation Yahshua had heard during His immersion with John the Baptist: now his own disciples saw and heard the truth of Yahshua's own vision. We should note that the Transfiguration does not speak in the later exclusive language of the Christian Trinity that makes Yahshua into the only possible son of G-d. Here we perceive that the same spirit that had animated Elijah and Moshe was present in Yahshua and this spirit could make of whomever it wishes sons of G-d.



In the middle of the vision and hearing the divine voice Kefa (Peter) offers to build three huts (Sukkoth) for Yahshua, Moshe and Eliyahu. In Marks' gospel we see this presented as an inept suggestion born out of fear (Mark 9:5-6).



A better translation of verse 6 would be that "For he (Peter) did not know how he should respond, because they were terrified" inferring that Peter's suggestion was an inane remark because of a loss for words.



Frequently, during the formation of the Gospels and their many redactions the significance of Judaic symbolism was forgotten and blame fell on the alleged ignorance of the apostles, rather than the amnesia and ignorance of the Church. In this case the Sukkot Kefa refers to reflect both the great feast that was coming and the realization that great prophets like Moshe, Eliyahu, and Yahshua brought the Spirit of G-d to abide in Israel. Sukkot or booths symbolizes the providence of G-d in His provision for us. Kefa's appreciation of the experience he had witnessed and his desire to build shelters is an indication that he, James and John had indeed joined Yahshua in the vision of the Chariot first reported in the translation of Eliyahu as witnessed by Elisha in, 2 Kings 2:11 and later Ezekiel's Chariot-Throne in his book.



The Mishnah in Chagigah 2:1 teaches that the Chariot called Merkavah in Hebrew should not be introduced to one person alone because the vision of the divine Throne was laden with danger. Some initiates died, some went mad, and still others fell prey to polytheism, by meditating on the Throne imprudently, and it was His genius as a rabbi that Yahshua led his disciples into a vision of the Chariot in a way that mobilized and safely transformed them.



The Transfiguration represents the mature development of Rabbi Yahshua's kabbalah as a man, tempted, in all the ways of humanity, for He was not only able to translate his own vision, but to initiate others into its richness. They now saw Him as a living presence in the pantheon of Israel's patriarchs and prophets around G-d's throne. Their rabbi, favored by the thundering voice of G-d (John 12:28, 29), stood at the vortex of creation's source. Yahshua had given to them and gives to us, no matter the cost in hardships, deprivation and struggles the reward of intimacy with the divine presence.



Yahshua's esoteric teaching as evidenced by the Scriptures had grown in advance of His public teaching, and that is a reversal of the pattern we would expect from the Mishnah and the Talmud. Kabbalah had an early prominent place in His teaching. Through the Transfiguration we see that G-d has exalted His son and this revealing of Yahshua's entrance into the heavenly court forever more became a defining force in our consciousness of G-d in our culture.



The vision on Mount Hermon had shown that Yahshua was G-d's son and this exerted a powerful temptation onto His disciples. They would counsel: Who would deny such a man the power to rule as the King of Israel? Yahshua to was susceptible to the same temptation. Yet, Yahshua who is the faithful son of G-d and being pressed by HaSatan day and night to being disloyal to G-d resisted it, and "The Lord's Prayer" was completed in the dark night of what has become known as the Temptation:



My Father,

Your name will be sanctified, your Kingdom will come: Give me today the bread that is coming, and release me my debts-not bring me to the test!



The disciples as were the people of Israel confused G-d's Kingdom with their own national power, especially as Yahshua initiated then into the variations of His Kabbalah after the vision on Mt. Hermon.



Yahshua had healed the sick, raised the dead, stilled storms, walked on water and ultimately had appeared on Mt. Hermon with Eliyahu and Moshe. Why should He not break the rule of Rome?



His disciples even argued among themselves as to who should be the greatest next to Yahshua in the coming Kingdom on earth. Yahshua had to define His movement for by force they might make Him King.



In the Targum of Zechariah, chapter 14 communicates Yahshua's mission and focus to Him. It provided the formula and ritual program, and the key that would unlock the magic door through which the transformation of the Kingdom of G-d would flow. The Targum predicts that G-d's Kingdom will be manifested over the entire earth when the offerings of Sukkoth are presented both by Israelites and Gentiles at the Temple. It further predicts that these worshippers will prepare and offer their sacrifices themselves, in the Galilean manner without the intervention of middlemen. Significantly, the last words of the book promise that, "there shall never again be a trader in the sanctuary of the Lord of Hosts at that time" (Zachariah 14:21). Yahshua's desire to realize the Targum prophecy brought on the dramatic confrontation that he would shortly provoke in the Temple. Zechariah's vision of the ultimate Sukkoth restored the land to Israel and the Temple to the sacrifice G-d desired, The Romans would be banished, and Zion's gate opened to all who would join with Israel there in worship (Targum Zechariah 14:9). Most Christians do not know that during the millennium there will be a return to animal sacrifice in the Temple. Zechariah 14 vv.16-21, 'And it shall come to pass that everyone that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the king, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the feast of the tabernacles... Yea every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of Hosts; and all that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein; and in that day shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of Hosts'. And again perhaps the clearest and most detailed references to the same are in the closing chapters of Ezekiel. The seven chapters Ezekiel 40-46 - give us a description of the millennial temple with its dimensions and its practices, including the sacrifices and offerings, which will take place.



All Yahshua's actions were informed by Judaism and the tenets of its faith, and that is lost or even considered anathema to most professed believers, because they have been taught, erroneously, that His advent signaled a new path to redemption, a path that leads to Hellenistic Christianity, and it's opposition to Judaism. Yet, any unbiased, informed believer can realize through Yahshua's kabbalah and His mission that He was not only our paschal lamb to provide reconciliation unto HaShem, but he was also to usher in the Future Kingdom of G-d, established within the framework and parameters of a Messianic Judaism that upholds the practice of Torah. And not through another religion that has lost its Jewish roots, namely Christianity.

Amein


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and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao rolf cheers

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
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One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.


In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.



Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet. thumbs up

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.

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SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'................... rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin ..............................

er........suzi........................only the rankest moron(you) would have projected that reply to my Post.........well done....again. thumbs up

FYI...they are talking about Jerusalem, in Israel.....................what don't you understand about that?

Was YHWHS previous two Temples in Australia?

NO.

Israel is the Eternal Promised Land................NOT Australia......... thumbs up lmao rolf


Neither will be the Third, and when the New Jerusalem decends it will over the old Jerusalem in.................Israel, not Australia..............it is futile for you to twist and pervert the Scriptures of YHWH, the Prophets you quote, out of context, are YHWHs Prophets, they speak of Israel..........NOT Australia..................suzi/lily.....you remain p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c......Analysis of Daniel 11:2-35

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves." thumbs up The vision in Daniel 11:2-35 is set in the third year of the Persian King Cyrus the Great (ca. 536 B.C.). The Greek conqueror Alexander the Great is briefly mentioned in Daniel 11:2 as a "warrior king," and the fourfold division of his empire is referred to in Daniel 11:3. Daniel 11:5-20 describes the wars between the Ptolemiac and Seleucid Empires. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to Antiochus Epiphanes, his rise to power, attacks on Egypt, and subsequent persecution of the Jews. The reader should particularly note the increased attention given to detail as the vision focuses on the second century B.C. and the tyranny of Antiochus. . thumbs up rolf lmao
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Suzi, you remain a Bullshit Artist........... thumbs up

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves."


Some insightful Bible students noticed, the proof lies in the obvious identity that exists between Daniel's "the king of the north" in the last days and Ezekiel's "Gog" of the latter days. By comparing what is said about each of them in the two prophecies, it is manifest that they can only be different titles for the same being.

Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 = Daniel 11:45

Their geographical position is the same. "Gog's" country is in the north part in relation to the Holy Land; as it is written, "Thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts". "Gog" is therefore "the king of the north", his place or country being there.

Both of them are adversaries of Israel and invaders of the Holy Land. The eleventh chapter of Daniel abundantly proves this in relation to "the king of the north"; and of "Gog", Yahoueh said: "Thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land".
The time they invade the land is the same. "The king of the north" invades in the last days. Of "Gog" it is said: "It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land".
The same peoples are named as components of their armies. The Libyans and Ethiopians are allies with "the king of the north"; and in the enumeration of Gog's forces, it says, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them".
Who is "Gog"? Which land is the land of "Magog"?
Some people think that "Gog" is the Devil. But does the context support this idea? Ezekiel wrote that after "Gog's" last attack he will fall and then be buried by the people. (Ez.39:4,11) So there is no need to prove that "Gog" represents the Devil as we know that the devil does not have a body of flesh and bone and has no need for a grave. Thus, in actuality, whom does "Gog" symbolize?

"Gog" is the chief prince of Meschech and Tubal. Meshech, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2) is the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi people, inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs simply as a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendancy of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs and gave this name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East" (Easton's Bible Dictionary).

Many ancient sources have clearly identified "Magog" as referring to the "Scythians".
One of the earliest references to Magog was made by Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" who identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel.

Josephus Flavius clearly identified Magog. "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians". (Josephus, Antiquities, 1.123; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel 38:2)

The Greek historian Herodotus wrote that in the fifth century B.C. the Scythians ruled from the Don River, in present southern Russia, to the Carpathian Mountains in central Europe.

Philo, is another historian in the first century A.D. who identified "Magog" with southern Russia.

Ancient authorities clearly identified the Scythians as the ancestors of the present day Russians.

However, even without that information, the identity of "Magog" is not too difficult to figure out. In Ezekiel 38:15, it says: "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee". The "north parts" is literally the "extreme, or uttermost" parts of the north.

Who are "the kings of the north" and "south"? Who are the "kings" of this chapter?

Daniel 11:2
Since the Prophecy was given in the third year of Cyrus (Daniel 10:1), the three kings that were to "stand up yet", that is, "after him", were Cambyses II, Smerdis the Magian imposter, Darius I Hystaspes.

The fourth king, Xerxes I, stirred up Persia against Greece, which he invaded in 480 B.C. but failed to conquer. Since prophecy touches only upon important events and characters, the remaining kings of Persia are omitted, and the prophecy jumps over nearly 150 years to the time of Alexander the Great 336-323 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:3,4
"A valiant king", Alexander the Great, whose kingdom after his death was divided into four parts.
1) Seleucus I - who began the Seleucid (Syrian) empire, from Turkey to India.
2) Cassander - who took over Macedonia (Greece).
3) Lysimachus - who took Thracia (between Greece and Turkey).
4) Ptolemy I - who ruled over Egypt.

Daniel 11:5
After the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C., the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I Soter, the son of Lagus, the king of the south.
"One of his princes", Seleucus I, Nicator ["the king of the north"] also rose to power, and took over the region of Syria. He eventually became more powerful than his former Egyptian ruler.

Daniel 11:6
"The daughter of the king of the south" = Berenice II, daughter of Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus II Theos.
Two years after the marriage, Berenice's father (Ptolemy Philadelphus) died.
Antiochus restored Laodice and put away Berenice.
He was then poisoned by Laodice.
Berenice fled with her children to Daphne where she was killed.

Daniel 11:7-9
A "branch of her roots" will come with an army. This was Berenice's brother, Ptolemy III Euregetes, "the king of the south".
"The king of the north" is Seleucus II Kallinikos, son of Laodice who was defeated in a later invasion of Egypt. He lost most of Asia Minor along with losing to the military expansion of Ptolemy III who put his mother, Laodice, to death.
Verse 9: "And [the king of the north] will enter into the kingdom of the king of the south, but will return to his own land". (literal translation)
Seleucus II, son of the deceased Laodice, sought revenge for the vengeance taken by Ptolemy III. "Justin says that he fitted out a great fleet, which was destroyed by a violent storm; and after this he raised a great army to recover his dominion, but was defeated by Ptolemy, and fled in great terror and trembling to Antioch" (Gill's Commentary).

Daniel 11:10-12
His ["the king of the north"] sons = Seleucus III Ceraunus and Antiochus III the Great.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III, the Great.
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy IV Philopator.
Ptolemy IV defeated the much larger army of Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia in 217.

Daniel 11:13-17
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy V Epiphanes.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III.
Antiochus III gives his daughter Cleopatra I to Ptolemy V, in hopes of permanent influence in Egypt.
Verse 14a: "And in those times many will rise against the king of the south".
At this time, many of the Egyptians began rebelling against the ruling Grecian family and began rioting and defying them.

Verse 14b: "And the sons of the violent ones of your people shall rise up to establish the vision, but they shall stumble". (LIT)
This verse speaks of the violent sons of Daniel's nation. Many commentators suggest that these people will stand up against the king of the south, but this text foretells that these people will lift themselves up to establish the vision. They were called a violent people by Ezekiel who in this way described them as shedders of blood. (18:10a) The word vision [in Aramaic chezev; in Hebrew chazown] is used in the Book of Daniel e.g. in: 7:1,2,7,13,15; 8:1,2,13,15,17,26; 9:24; 10:14; 11:14. All of these visions prophecy of the future persecution of God's nation, that would be fulfilled in the distant future. (Daniel 8:17; 10:14)
What kind of violent people would lift themselves in the ancient time, to fulfill the inspired visions and prophecies before their time? The First Book of the Maccabees clearly indicates the Maccabees as being these violent people. (1:54; 6:7) Until now, many commentators believe that the Maccabees fulfilled the prophecies of the Book of Daniel. But Jesus said that the vision which concerns the abomination of desolation and the persecutions of God's nation will be fulfilled in the future. (Compare Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:1-Cool

Verse 11:16b "and he standeth in the desirable land, and it is wholly in his hand". (YLT)
After one hundred years, Palestine again changed hands. The Seleucid king, Antiochus III, took control of Palestine c. 200 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:18
Antioch III against the Roman Empire.
"Ruler" = Lucius Cornelius, the Roman general.
The Romans humbled him (191) at Thermopylae and again at Magnesia (190).

Daniel 11:19a
Subsequently, Antiochus was forced to campaign within his own lands to stop his satraps from declaring themselves independent rulers.

Daniel 11:19b
"He shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found" = end of the period of greatness for the Seleucid Empire. (Compare Revelation 18:21; Jeremiah 51:64)

Daniel 11:20
"And stood up on his station hath one causing an exactor to pass over the honour of the kingdom, and in a few days he is destroyed, and not in anger, nor in battle". (YLT)

"The king of the north" = Caesar Augustus. The first Roman emperor.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

In 2 B.C., Augustus sent out "an exactor" by ordering a registration, or census, most likely to learn the size of the population for purposes of taxation and military conscription. Because of this decree, Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem for registration, resulting in Jesus' birth at that foretold location. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1-12)

Daniel didn’t prophecy that "the king of the north" would die "after a few days" from this event, but would die in the undetermined future "after a few days". In the end of July, in the year 14 A.D., August left Rome. He took a vacation in his old age and health. On the 19th of August, after a short sickness, he "passed away peacefully, not feeling any pain". While traveling in Campania, Augustus died "in a few days", neither "in anger" at an assassin's hands nor "in warfare", but after a short illness.

Many say that "the king of the north" is Seleucus IV Philopater, who sent out his finance minister, Heliodorus to collect taxes. But Seleucus was murdered in a conspiracy engineered by Heliodorus. It is said that the king here was to however die a natural death (not one of anger or of battle). Therefore, this writing does not conform to Seleucus IV. Also, verse 21 cannot carry over to the rule of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel 11:21-23
Verse 21: "And in his place shall arise a despised. And they will not give him the royal majesty. He will come in a time of peace and will seize the kingdom through duplicity".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius 14-37.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

"The ruler of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua].

Augustus only chose him after more favored heirs had died.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says, Tiberius played politics with the Senate and did not allow it to name him emperor for almost a month [after Augustus died]". He told the Senate that no one but Augustus was capable of carrying the burden of ruling the Roman Empire and asked the senators to restore the republic by entrusting such authority to a group of men rather than to one man. "Not daring to take him at his word", wrote historian Will Durant, "the Senate exchanged bows with him until at last he accepted power". Durant added: "The play was well acted on both sides. Tiberius wanted the principate, or he would have found some way to evade it; the Senate feared and hated him, but shrank from reestablishing a republic based, like the old, upon theoretically sovereign assemblies". Thus, Tiberius took hold of the kingdom by means of duplicity.

Verse 22: "And the arms of the flood shall be swept from before his face, and they will be broken, and also the ruler of a covenant".

In 15 A.D., Germanicus led his forces against the German hero Arminius, with some success. However, the limited victories were won at great cost, and Tiberius thereafter aborted operations in Germany. Instead, by promoting civil war, he tried to prevent German tribes from uniting. Tiberius generally favoured a defensive foreign policy and focused on strengthening the frontiers. This stance was fairly successful. In this way "the arms of the flood" were controlled and were "broken".
"Broken" too was "the Leader of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua]. (Compare Isaiah 55:4; Daniel 9:25, 27a)

Verse 23: "And after they join themselves to him, he will do guile, and he will exalt himself, and will do strong by a few of the people".

The oath of loyalty bound the army and officials to the Tiberius.
"Sextus Pompeius and Sextus Apuleius, the consuls, were the first to swear allegiance to Tiberius Caesar, and in their presence the oath was taken by Seius Strabo and Caius Turranius, respectively the commander of the praetorian cohorts and the superintendent of the corn supplies. Then the Senate, the soldiers and the people did the same".
Those few people were the Roman Praetorian Guard, encamped close to Rome's walls. Its proximity intimidated the Senate and helped Tiberius keep in check any uprisings against his authority among the populace. By means of some 10.000 guards Tiberius remained mighty.

Daniel 11:24
"In a time of peace he will come against [sense: will attack] the fattest [sense: mighty] of the land, and he will do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers: prey, and spoil, and substance, their possession he will distribute. And against strongholds he will devise his schemes until the appointed time".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius and next emperors.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

The word "mashman" refers here to fattest [sense: mighty]. (Compare Ps.78:31 and Is.10:16)
Because he was very suspicious, Emperor Tiberius, extended the law of laesa majestas. Many senators were put to death on a charge of treason against the emperor. For the people of the provinces, it was a peaceful and well-ordered time.

Daniel 11:25,26a
Aurelian (270-275) against Queen Zenobia of Palmyra ["the king of the south"].

The Palmyrene army occupied Egypt in 269 B.C.E. under the pretext of making it secure for Rome. Zenobia wanted to make Palmyra the dominant city in the east and wanted to rule over Rome's eastern provinces. Alarmed by her ambition, Aurelian aroused "his power and his heart" to proceed against Zenobia.
Zenobia valiantly defended it, but without success. She and her son fled toward Persia, only to be captured by the Romans at the Euphrates River. The Palmyrenes surrendered their city in 272 B.C. Aurelian spared Zenobia, making her the prize feature in his triumphal procession through Rome in 274 B.C. She spent the rest of her life as a Roman matron.
Aurelian himself 'did not stand because of schemes against him.' In 275 B.C., he set out on an expedition against the Persians. While he was waiting in Thrace for the opportunity to cross the straits into Asia Minor, those who 'ate his food' carried out schemes against him and brought about his "breakdown". He was going to call his secretary Eros to account for irregularities. Eros, however, forged a list of names of certain officers marked for death. The sight of this list moved the officers to plot Aurelian's assassination and to murder him.

Daniel 11:26b. (Compare Daniel 9:26b)
"and his army will be flooded and many will fall down slain".

Decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

"The strength of Aurelian had crushed on every side the enemies of Rome. After his death they seemed to revive with an increase of fury and of numbers".

Daniel 11:27
"And both these kings, their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie. But it will not succeed, for yet (the) finish to (the) appointed time." (11:27, literal translation)
It certainly suggests that the verse does not concern to the ancient times. It describes the end of times right before the appointed time. (Compare Daniel 11:29a)

Russia and England (from second half of the XIX Century).

Egyptian history dates back to about 4000 B.C., when the kingdoms of upper and lower Egypt, already highly sophisticated, were united. Egypt's golden age coincided with the 18th and 19th dynasties (16th to 13th century B.C.), during which the empire was established. Persia conquered Egypt in 525 B.C.E, Alexander the Great subdued it in 332 B.C.E., and then the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled the land until 30 B.C., when Cleopatra, last of the line, committed suicide and Egypt became a Roman, then Byzantine, province. Arab caliphs ruled Egypt from 641 until 1517, when the Turks took it for their Ottoman Empire. Napoléon's armies occupied the country from 1798 to 1801. In 1805, Mohammed Ali, leader of a band of Albanian soldiers, became pasha of Egypt. After completion of the Suez Canal in 1869, the French and British took increasing interest in Egypt. British troops occupied Egypt in 1882, and British resident agents became its actual administrators, though it remained under nominal Turkish sovereignty. In 1914, this fiction was ended, and Egypt became a protectorate of Britain.
Russia grew expanding its power over huge regions, and by the end of XIX century Russia possessed territories from the mouths of the Danube and Visla in the west, reached the Pacific Ocean in the east, began in the Euroasian tundra in the north and had borders with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China in the south.

In 1907, an Anglo-Russian agreement divided Persia into English and Russian spheres of influence, a large Russian sphere in the north, covering the most valuable part of the country, a neutral sphere in the centre, and a smaller British sphere in the southeast.

Daniel 11:28
"And (he) ["the king of the north"] will go back (to) his land with great wealth; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land." (literal translation)

History of Russia after World War II.

The passage contains enough details, which allow for a correct interpretation.

Daniel foretells here that "the king of the north" [Russia] will not only be successful in WW II, but also that he returns to his land with a great amount of goods. If only Hitler had listened to Mussolini and the Japanese, who in 1943 advised him to stop military actions, the prophetic detail would have never been fulfilled.

Daniel 11:28b
"and turned back to his own land".

The break-up of the Soviet Union and return to the country of Russian garrisons (the liquidation of Russian military bases).

The prophecy of Daniel 11 is the key to understanding what is going to happen in the future.

The latter statements Jesus' and Daniel's are alike.


Matthew 24:5,6 (Luke 21:8,9) = Daniel 11:27,28 = XIX, XX, XXI Century, before the World War III

"Many for will come in the name of me, saying: 'I am the anointed'; and many they will mislead." (Matthew 24:5, literal translation)

"He said, 'Watch out that you don't get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, 'I AM,' and, 'The time is at hand.' Therefore don't follow them." (Luke 21:8, WEB)

"Don't be afraid when you hear of wars and revolutions; such things must happen first, but they do not mean that the end is near." (Luke 21:9, GNB)

Matthew 24:7 = Daniel 11:29,30 = WW III

Matthew 24:15 = Daniel 11:31 = "trampling of Jerusalem" [the great tribulation of Christian minorities; compare Revelation 11]

Matthew 24:29 = Daniel 11:40 = WW IV

Daniel 11:29a
"At (the) appointed time (he) will return, and will enter into (the) south."

1. Russian troops will be station abroad again.
2. "The king of the north" will come into the South.

Daniel 11:29b,30
"But will not be as (the) former or as (the) latter. For will come against him (the) dwellers of coastlands of Kittim, and (he) will be humbled, and will return." (literal translation)

1. The West will come against the Russia.
2. "The king of the north" will be humbled, and will return.
(Compare Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4)

Daniel 11:31
1. The nations will trample "the holy city" [of those who belong to Christ] forty-two months. (Compare Revelation 11:2,7; 13:5,7a; Luke 21:24b; Matthew 24:21,22; Daniel 7:25; 9:27; Isaiah 29:1-8,20-24; Matthew 13:40-43,49,50; Ezekiel 13:8-16,20-23; 34:10; 2Thessalonians 2:8b; Isaiah 28:1-4,17-22; 6:13; Malachi 3:1-5)

The religious organizations from among Christian minorities which Jesus compared to "the weeds", will be "burned". (Mt.13:30) Yahoueh will protect the righteous ones. (Re.11:1) "The wheat" will be put into "the storehouse" after the tribulation – which means that "the sons of the kingdom" will become gathered and unified at that time. They will shine as brightly as the sun after the tribulation.

2. "The abomination of desolation" [the World Government] will be set up. (Revelation 13:7b; Daniel 12:11)

Daniel 11:32-35
Details of their future global religious persecution. (Compare Daniel 8:11,12; Revelation 6:9-11; 12:15)

Daniel 11:36-39
Russia before the World War IV. (Compare Ezekiel 38:7)

Daniel 11:40
The World War IV. (Compare Luke 21:25; Isaiah 5:26-30; Matthew 24:29; Daniel 7:11; Revelation 13:3; Ezekiel 32:2-16; Habakkuk 1:5-17; Revelation 6:12; Zephaniah 1:14-18; Joel 2:1-11,31, ASV)

Daniel 11:41
Occupation of Israel. (Compare Ezekiel 39:23-29)

Daniel 11:42,43
The triumph of Russia. (Compare Isaiah 10:12-15)

Daniel 11:44,45
Russia again will attack Israel. (Compare Daniel 12:1; Joel 2:20; Isaiah 14:4-27; Habakkuk 3:3-16)

"Many will study, therefore understanding will be multiplied". (Daniel 12:4b)



What is the Bible's scenario?
1. Russian troops station abroad again. (Daniel 11:29a)

2. "The king of the north" becomes very aggressive and enters into the south. (Daniel 11:29a)

3. The West opposes Russia. (Daniel 11:30; Matthew 24:7a; Revelation 6:4)

4. "The king of the north" is humiliated, and turns back. (Daniel 11:30). He does not make the same mistake as Hitler did, he does not fight to the death and this is why Russia is not occupied.

5. The World Government appears after that war which replaces the ineffective UN. Its power gradually rises. (Revelation 13:1,2,7b; Daniel 11:31b)

6. Russia rebuilds its military power very fast and acts effectively on the world scene. (Daniel 11:30b)

7. "Russia’s rulers pay attention to those "who forsake the holy covenant". (Daniel 11:30b)

8. A man "of fierce countenance, and understanding ambiguous sayings" becomes the president of the USA, and he begins to fight with Christian minorities. (Daniel 8:23-25)

9. There is a tribulation of "Jerusalem" = it is a tribulation of Christian minorities, which lasts 42 month’s. (Daniel 11:31a; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:5-7a; Matthew 13:40-42,49,50; 24:48-51)

The Christian communities, which are now called sects, are decimated. It is the biggest genocide concerning religion in history. The eyes of people who were deceived by them will be opened. (Isaiah 6:9-13)

The "tyrant", according to LXX “lawless” = the rulers of Christian minorities will be removed. (Isaiah 29:1-8,20,21) Ezekiel calls them "women". (Ezekiel 13:17-23; Revelation 14:4a; Isaiah 3:12) Paul names them "the man of lawlessness". (2 Thessalonians 2:4,8b)

10. Immediately after the tribulation of those days "the abomination of desolation", in other words the World Government will be set up [will given authority; Revelation 13]. (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11) The Book of Revelation calls it a "beast". (11:7; 13:1,2,7,Cool

11. The spirit is poured out upon people who belong to Jesus. (Revelation 11:11-13) The "wheat" = the sons of kingdom, will be gathered into the "storehouse" after burning the "weeds" = organized Christian churches which earlier posed as the churches of Christ. (Matthew 13:30b; Eph.1:9,10) And then Jesus will set up a "faithful slave" over his whole possession. (Matthew 24:45-47)

12. The seven trumpets start to sound. Those who belong to Jesus are revealing future events to the World. They will also try to explain what God thinks of certain issues. (Revelation 8:6-10:11)

13. The power in Russia will be taken over by a dictator who is atheist. The military power will be his god. (Daniel 11:36-39)

14. Not longer after that, there will be the WWIV. That time Russia will triumph the same as it did after the WWII. (Daniel 11:40; Daniel 7:11; Luke 21:25; Revelation 13:3a). "The king of the north" will act as a "God’s hammer" ravaging many countries like Babylon in ancient times. (Jeremiah 51:20,25)

15. Russia occupies Israel as well. (Daniel 11:41)

16. After that war the World Government is resuscitated. The "purple beast" will be given even more power. The politicians will relinquish their sovereignty in favor of the beast. (Revelation 13:14; 17:8,17)

17. Attack on "Babylon the Great" = big, apostatized churches, drunk with blood of innocent people, which betrayed God and Jesus by co-operating with kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:16)

18. Next, nations see the sign of the Son of man (Matthew 24:30). Probably it will be connected with the first resurrection (Revelation 20:6). People who have died in union with Jesus will rise first (among 144.000). They will get a spirit body at the resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:35,44) What will be the proof of the resurrection? Immediately after that, remaining of 144,000 will be transfigured (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). Simultaneously they will be caught away from the earth and taken to heaven. The transfigurations of belonging to Jesus dependably will not be seen and it will cause a great expression on nations.

19. The whole nation of Israel is converting and gathering. (Ezekiel 39:25-29; Romans 11:25-32). After taking to heaven belonging to group of 144,000 nation of Israel will be a light for the nations. God will be with them and will pour his spirit over them. (Ezekiel 39:29)

20. Rebuilding of the Temple according to directions given to Ezekiel. (Ezekiel 37:24-28; 43:11)

21. There will be collection of chosen, separation the "sheep from the goats". (Matthew 24:31; 25:31-44; Revelation 14:15,16).

22. "The king of the north" will attack people who worship the true God [Israel] (Ezekiel 38:10-12). "The beast" [the word government] also will take part in this attack. (Revelation 19:19).

23. After Armageddon the power on the world will be taken over by the "new heaven" = the kingdom of God i.e. Jesus and belonging to him. (Daniel 7:27; Matthew 6:10; Revelation 21:1-4) "The old heaven" = imperfect system of authority created by man will go away. Rules and the law created by imperfect people which are captivating and making difficulty will be untied. All activities remaining uncovered, good or bad will be revealed, all crimes will come to light. (2 Peter 3:10; 1 Timothy 5:25).

24. The rest of dead will come to life! The earth will become the paradise. (Acts 24:15; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; 25:8; 35:5-7). When the thousand year’s period of Jesus’ kingdom will end people who come to life during this period are put to the test. And then they will really come to life God’s point of view and then they will get ability to live forever. (Revelation 20:5a,7,8; comp. Luke 15:32; 1 John 3:14).



"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth will I cause you to hear them". (Isaiah 42:9)

see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. Ross
The previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6
..............
THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.

Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.
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Post  mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:38 am

lilly: when you lie, twist and deform Scripture you are hurting yourself.......... thumbs up .............The biblical commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and restrictions on people limiting their freedom, but as a Divine Communication that can be seen as generous; teaching, instructing(Torah); Humanbeings how life works and what to do and not do to make the best of it. thumbs up

Within the mitzvot/commandments are all the instructions(Torah) neccessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap great benefit from living within alignment with the Laws of the Universe.

Who is wise?

They who can foresee the consequences of their action. thumbs up

In Hebraic/Biblical thought, the whole function of the Torah(instruction) is to turn the soul away from the things of the 'Flesh'; from egoistic to altruistic...........During our life our soul either attaches to the things of the 'flesh'---to the Path of Darkness; or it attaches to the things of the Spirit.............becoming a Child of the Light........ thumbs up
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Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....


THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO God...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Ethical Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. An Abstract Ethical Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups’ values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Ethical Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.

Each one of the first four commandments encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated than other contemporary Ancient Near East Cultures.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shall have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop demoted all other elohim/gods & goddesses to nothings.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existent, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subservient to Him.

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs’ Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Arithmetic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other Ancient Near East culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literate Societies tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgement Day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden one day a week and the Farmland to lay fallow every seven years to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamia.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform in usage after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Relativists may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the Ancient Near East Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
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THE Queen has hailed Australia's "extraordinary" growth
in self-confidence and global standing during the first speech
of her visit.

Australia dynamic, energetic, says Queen
by:Michael Harvey
From:Herald Sun

October 22, 2011 12:00AM


Royal visit
Queen's itinerary


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Queen Elizabeth and Julia Gillard meet Australian basketball star Liz Cambage. AP

HE Queen hailed Australia's "extraordinary" growth in self-confidence and
global standing during the first speech of her royal visit last night.


Drawing parallels with her own 59-year reign, the sovereign paid rich tribute
to the emergence of a "prosperous, energetic and dynamic" nation


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"Ever since I first came here in 1954, I have watched Australia grow and develop
at an extraordinary rate," she said.

"This country has made dramatic progress economically, in social, scientific
and industrial endeavours - and, above all, in self-confidence."


Related Coverage
Laughter and praise from Queen Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago
Queen delights in our growth The Daily Telegraph, 1 hour ago
Queen praises courageous response Foundation, 1 hour ago
Queen's speech to MPs in Canberra The Australian, 1 hour ago
Queen, Abbott discuss 'tough' politics Foundation, 1 hour ago

The Queen was speaking at an invitation-only parliamentary
reception, held in her honour and that of Prince Philip by Prime
Minister Julia Gillard, at Parliament House.

Australia's armed forces drew special praise, as the Queen offered tribute to the fallen
in Afghanistan and the two soldiers awarded the Victoria Cross.

She also remembered with sadness Australia's summer of natural disasters, praising the courage of those affected.

Australia's history of political freedom led to free expression and was the basis
for national success at art, sport and economic enterprise.

"With this foundation, Australia has flourished and achieved excellence on the world stage," she said.

"The award of the Nobel Prize in physics to Prof Brian Schmidt earlier this month
is but one example."

The royal couple looked at ease amid the relaxed proceedings, with
the Queen wearing an ivory silk ensemble.

They
spent about 30 minutes mingling with guests, who included former
governors-general, Australians of the Year and round-the-world sailor
Jessica Watson.

Ms Gillard praised the Queen as a "beloved and respected friend" and
a "wise and gracious sovereign who has spent her life in the cause of duty".

Wearing silvery colours strikingly similar to the Queen's, the PM invoked
former PM Sir Robert Menzies's famous "I did but see her passing by" speech.

"Far from passing by, you have endured," she said.

"You have endured with dignity and abiding strength of spirit."

The royal couple chuckled at a quip from Opposition Leader Tony Abbott,
recalling how Prince Philip once asked actor Cate Blanchett to fix the
palace DVD player when she was introduced as "someone who worked in movies".

"Only locals are allowed to joke about our Cate so that makes you at least
an honorary Australian," he said.

Mr Abbott described the Queen as "one of us" and praised her life as
"an exemplar of the ideals of duty and service that make societies strong
and civilisations last".


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POLICE have vowed not to take a backward step
as Occupy Melbourne protesters promise more disruption in the city today.

Queen hails Duntroon as colours presented
by:AAP
From:AAP

October 22, 2011
12:19PM

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THE Queen has presented new royal colours to the Royal Military College (RMC) at Duntroon, for the fourth time in her reign.

Her Majesty said she was pleased to
present the colours to RMC in its 100th anniversary year.


"The college has held an esteemed position in the training of Australian
officers for war and peace time service over the past 100 years," she
told cadets, college staff, military chiefs and families at the RMC
parade ground in Canberra today.

"The dedicated and outstanding service your graduates have provided to the nation
is a milestone to be celebrated."

The RMC was founded in 1911 and
is
Australia's equivalent of Sandhurst in Britain and West Point in the US,
training army officer cadets who graduate as lieutenants.
The Queen, 85, said this was the fourth time she had presented RMC with a new colour.

Presentation of the Colours

Royal praise for 'dynamic' Australia
Reunited after six decades Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Hero's pride in a new military generation Foundation, 1 hour ago

Presentation of the Colours Herald Sun, 1 hour ago

Queen's Aussie tour - day 4 Perth Now, 1 hour ago

Queen's reign to bloom 50 years on The Daily Telegraph, 3 days ago


"On each occasion I have been most impressed with the discipline
and determination of the college's graduates, many of whom have gone on
to serve their nation with distinction on operations around the world,
often in difficult and dangerous circumstances.

"Many have give their lives in defence of their country and their values."

The Queen, who was wearing an electric-blue dress, coat and hat by Angela Kelly
,
said the presentation of colours was a special opportunity to recognise past achievements,
to give thanks for commitment and loyalty and express confidence in the future.

The current RMC year comprises
400 cadets, including
23 international
students from
11 countries.


Including staff and the RMC band, there were more than 500 personnel
on parade for Her Majesty, who was accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh.


After the parade the Queen will meet Staff Cadet Harriet Pembroke, the
granddaughter of Lieutenant Colonel Arthur "Bushy" Pembroke, to whom Her
Majesty presented the Military Cross in 1953.

The Brisbane-born Lt-Col Pembroke, a RMC graduate, was awarded the cross for bravery
while commanding a platoon in the Korean War against Hill 317 during the battle of
Maryang San in October 1951.

It was one of two significant battles involving Australian personnel during the war.

The RMC received its first royal colours from the Queen's father,
King George VI, in 1927.

Her Majesty presented her own colours to RMC in 1957, 1970 and 1988.

Colours, or standards, are made of silk
and fulfill a significant role in a military unit.

Historically, they have been the rallying point for soldiers on the battlefield.


By tradition, the old colours are laid up in a place regarded as sacred,
and in this case that will be in the RMC chapel.

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