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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:34 am

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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:44 am

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...so, flying?
Now that The Only Fatality Free (since 1951) Airline is Grounded,
and 13 13 13 is the number to call?

...and then we also have WIKI LINKING ABB...
Flying? Call 13 13 13 300px-VH-ABBcropShort S.23 Empire flying boat VH-ABB, which crashed in 1944.

While Qantas has never had a fatal jet airliner accident, the Australian
national airline suffered several losses in its early days before the
widespread adoption of the jet engine in civilian aviation.[1] These were mainly biplanes or flying boats servicing routes in Queensland and New Guinea.[2] The incidents between 1942 and 1944 were during World War II, when Qantas Empire Airways operated on behalf of the military.[3] While strictly speaking not an accident, the shooting-down of G-AEUH is included for completeness.
List of Qantas fatal accidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qantas_fatal_accidents
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:51 am

Flights were cancelled immediately after the announcement
by Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.
Picture: Mitch Bear
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Flying? Call 13 13 13 364527-qantas-no
true lilly wrote:...so, flying?
Now that The Only Fatality Free (since 1951) Airline is Grounded,
and 13 13 13 is the number to call?

...and then we also have WIKI LINKING ABB...
Flying? Call 13 13 13 300px-VH-ABBcropShort S.23 Empire flying boat VH-ABB, which crashed in 1944.

While Qantas has never had a fatal jet airliner accident, the Australian
national airline suffered several losses in its early days before the
widespread adoption of the jet engine in civilian aviation.[1] These were mainly biplanes or flying boats servicing routes in Queensland and New Guinea.[2] The incidents between 1942 and 1944 were during World War II, when Qantas Empire Airways operated on behalf of the military.[3] While strictly speaking not an accident, the shooting-down of G-AEUH is included for completeness.List of Qantas fatal accidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qantas_fatal_accidents
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:57 am

Qantas grounding 'won't hurt Melbourne Cup'
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/qantas-grounding-wont-hurt-melbourne-cup/story-e6frf7jx-1226180388268
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:08 am

true lilly wrote:Qantas grounding 'won't hurt Melbourne Cup'
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/qantas-grounding-wont-hurt-melbourne-cup/story-e6frf7jx-1226180388268

7:42PM (AEST)

Joyce 'holding knife to nation's throat'


AUSTRALIAN pilots have
said Qantas' decision to ground all flights amounts to "holding a knife
to the nation's throat" and have called for chief executive Alan Joyce
to be sacked immediately. Read more
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:03 am

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68,000 travellers stranded

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Brigid O'Connell

MORE than 68,000 passengers are stranded - 13,000 of them overseas -
after Qantas last night grounded its entire fleet indefinitely.

619 comments on this story

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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:15 am

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All Qantas flights cancelled Union workers locked out 68000 ...
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Australian 50 Cent Coins : 1988 First Fleet Bicentenary 50c
October 4, 2010
1988 First Fleet Bicentenary 50c

In 1988 Australia celebrated 200 years since the arrival of the First
Fleet. Captain Arthur Phillip led the party of 11 ships to the
founding of Sydney and the colonisation of New South Wales. Arriving
between 18-20th January 1788 1,487 men, women, children and convicts
landed to establish the first European colony in Australia.

There were many events around the country planned for the Bicentenary
in 1988 including a 50 cent coin released into circulation by the Royal
Australian Mint. This dodecagonal (12 sided) 31.51mm copper (75%)
nickel (25%) coin weighed in at 15.55 grams with a plain edge. The
reverse depicts an uncharted map of New Holland (Australia), the stars
of the southern cross and a ship of the First Fleet. This coin is often
nicknamed the "Tall Ships" coin when found in change. It was designed
by Michael Tracey. The standard obverse for 1988 was the Raphael Maklouf portrait
of Queen Elizabeth II, the last year this portrait was used.

8,998,800 of these coins were released into circulation in 1988.
They also feature in the Masterpieces in Silver issues of 1988 and 1989
in sterling silver proof, the 1989 issue being a 1989 dated 50c. Mint
and Proof year sets for 1988 also feature this Tall ships coin.

A one dollar was also released for the Bicentenary in 1988.
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Australian Dollar Coins - 1988 First Fleet Bicentenary
November 4, 2009
1988 First Fleet Bicentenary One Dollar by Stuart Devlin
1988 brought many celebrations and issues marking 200 years since the
First Fleet landed in Port Jackson, Sydney. These ships brought the
first immigrants to start the new colony of New South Wales. The First
Fleet consisted of 11 ships bringing approximately 1487 people from
Great Britain to establish Australia's first European colony. On the
26th January 1788 Fleet leader Captain Arthur Phillip planted the
British flag on Australian shore and claimed the land for the British
Empire. This day continues to be celebrated as a national holiday
Australia Day.

This one dollar issue that entered circulation reminds us of the
original Aboriginal inhabitants of our nation. The reverse depicts
aboriginal artwork- a stylised kangaroo on a backdrop of a seven pointed
(federation) star modeled by designer Stuart Devlin.
When we receive one of these in our change, we are reminded of the
native Koori people that were displaced by European settlement. This
standard 25mm, 9 gram, aluminium bronze dollar features the obverse
effigy of Queen Elizabeth II by Raphael Maklouf . 20,400,000 of these
coins entered circulation. 3,500 coins were also struck in aluminium
bronze proof. This dollar was also restruck later for inclusion in the 5
coin uncirculated set 1988-1992. A sterling silver proof version was
also included in the masterpieces in silver set issued in 1990.



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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:01 am

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1988
January 1-
The Soviet Union begins its program of economic restructuring (perestroika)
with legislation initiated by Premier Mikhail Gorbachev
(though Gorbachev had begun minor restructuring in 1985).

December 21 – Pan Am Flight 103 is blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland,
killing a total of 270 people. Those responsible are believed to be Libyans.

The U.S. Drought of 1988
causes big crop damage in many states,
impacts many portions of the
United States
and causes around $60 billion in damage.
Multiple regions
suffer in the conditions.
Heat waves cause 4,800 to 17,000 excess deaths
while scorching many areas of the United States during 1988.

68,000
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:18 am

Nato cofirms death of Aussie Diggers
From:AAP
October 30, 2011
1:58AM
A ROGUE Afghan soldier has opened fire and killed three Australian
army trainers and wounded six others in the volatile south of
Afghanistan, NATO and a local commander have confirmed.


An Afghan National Army (ANA) officer was also shot and wounded.
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is yet to comment on the incident.
The shooting occurred during morning parade at 8.30am (3pm AEDT) at Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province, the ABC reported.
The
alliance force says two Australian diggers were killed and the third
later died of his injuries after "an individual wearing an Afghan
National Army uniform apparently turned his weapon on Afghan and
coalition forces".
It said the shooter was also killed in the incident, but gave no further details.
General
Abdul Hameed, commander of 205 Atal corps in the south, said an Afghan
soldier with three years' experience had carried out the shooting.

Related Coverage
Afghan kills 3 Diggers, wounds 7: report Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Three Diggers dead in Afghan shooting spree Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
Taliban bombs injure five Diggers Courier Mail, 1 Oct 2011
Afghan soldier tried to shoot killer Herald Sun, 2 Jun 2011
Hunt continues for rogue Afghan soldier The Australian, 1 Jun 2011

"At around 8.30 this morning (3pm AEDT), an ANA soldier named
Darwish who had been serving as an ANA soldier for the past three years
opened fire on a group of Australian military officers, killing three
of them and injuring six others as well as one ANA officer," said
Hameed.
"The attacker was also gunned down by ISAF soldiers."
It's not the first time an ANA soldier has killed an Australian soldier.
In
May this year, 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Gordon Jones was shot
dead by a rogue ANA soldier at the Patrol Base Marshal in the Chora
Valley.
Fears of infiltration within the Afghan army ranks have
risen as Western backers fund and train a huge expansion of the
fledgling national force ahead of the withdrawal of all foreign combat
forces scheduled for 2014.
The announcement came as a suicide car
bomber in the capital Kabul struck a US-run NATO bus travelling
through the southwest of the city, killing at least 17 people,
including 13 US soldiers.

The death of the three diggers overnight
is the single worst incident involving Australians since June last
year when three members of the Sydney-based 2nd Commando Regiment died
in a helicopter crash in Kandahar province.
A total of 32 Australian soldiers have now been killed in a decade of involvement in Afghanistan.
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:53 am

dixie dean wrote:
#31874
31 which is the Country Code for Neverlands
and then you have the number 13.
Never Lands...
This article is about the country within the
Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Netherlands
Nederland

dixie dean wrote:
#31874
I would also link Christian to Poison. Also Tin-Tin Kyrano is linked to
Puppets, so, someone else is pulling her strings.And notice that Tintin
is a man and Tintin Kyrano is a woman, so is Cori passing herself off
as a Woman when she is a man or are they one of the same?
I don't know
who is pulling my strings the same as anyone else, you can only have
faith that you have some good on the other end.

Maybe God needs to get rid of those bad puppeteers, pup's as in Dog's,
or will those puppeteers and who ever they are connected to see the
Light of Day.
Diggers treading a trigger wire
by:Brendan Nicholson
From:The Australian
August 26, 2010

12:00AM

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Australian and Afghan National Army soldiers frequently go on patrols together.
Picture: Gary Ramage
Source:
The Australian

AUSTRALIAN Diggers in Afghanistan are appalled and angered when they
hear their main role in Afghanistan dismissed as just "training the
Afghan army".


The dangers faced daily by the instructors out mentoring the Afghan

National Army were brutally highlighted yesterday when it emerged that
28-year-old Jared MacKinney had been killed in an intense three-hour
battle with Taliban insurgents during a joint patrol with Afghan troops
in the Deh Rawud green zone, west of the Australian base at Tarin Kowt.

He was the fourth Australian killed in Afghanistan in less than a
fortnight. But, more significantly, he was the eighth member of an
Australian training and mentoring team killed in action since they
Australian Defence Force began helping to train the Afghan army.

For those troops the war has become even more dangerous in recent months
as the Dutch troops who had the primary coalition role in Oruzgan pulled
out in August, to be replaced by a largely American force.

The Dutch withdrawal coincided with the Americans' make-or-break
surge against the Taliban, with a big troop build-up designed to clear
the insurgents out of the huge areas they control.

Raspal Khosa, an Afghan specialist from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute,
says the increased fighting is a consequence of US President Barack
Obama's revised "force uplift" strategy being put into effect by General David Petraeus.

Strong coalition contingents were sent into Kandahar and Helmand provinces in particular, and Australians have takenpart in some fighting there.

The US strategy calls for the capture of what the generals call "key terrain districts" and some of those lie in Oruzgan province, Australia's main operational area.
These areas, 121 of them, have been picked because control there gives a marked advantage to whichever side has them.

They contain a population as well as economic and transport corridors. One
of these is Deh Rawud where this week's bitter fighting took place.
"The
Taliban is obviously counterattacking to challenge this strategy,"
Khosa says. The insurgents have changed tactics and dramatically
increased the numbers of improvised bombs, which are responsible for the
largest number of military and civilian casualties in Afghanistan.

The Taliban aim is to influence what Khosa calls "the external centre of
gravity": public opinion in the West and the coalition's political will
to continue the fight.
The continuing deaths and the apparent lack of progress do have an effect.
Newspoll has marked dwindling public support for the war in Afghanistan after
many years of conflict and mounting casualties.

The proportion of Australians supporting the commitment of troops has
dropped since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks, when two-thirds supported sending troops; in March last year,
nearly two-thirds were opposed.

The war has not been an election issue because it has the support of the main parties,
and Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott both favour Australia's continued involvement in the
war effort.
The Coalition was fairly gung-ho on the war for a time and pushed for Australia
to take over the lead role in Oruzgan when the Dutch pulled out. But since
the latest wave of casualties began -- and following briefings from ADF chief
Angus Houston -- Abbott has softened the rhetoric and adopted the view that
the size of the commitment is "about right".

The Dutch withdrawal has left a specific vacuum not easily filled by the Americans,
with their more aggressive operational style.
Debate about the Dutch departure concentrated largely on who would replace
the logistics they brought to Oruzgan: the command structure, medical facilities,
helicopters and fast jets that provide air support, and the long-range artillery that
can hit Taliban targets in the mountains around the joint coalition base at Tarin Kowt.
But the issue is more complex.

The Dutch proved adept at building relationships with the tribal people
scattered through Oruzgan's mountain valleys and Australia's troops have
benefited from that rapport.

For a long time Australians working with forces from The Netherlands
were inclined to complain about their lack of aggression and to suggest
that "Dutch" stood for "Don't Understand The Concept Here"
when it came to counter-insurgency warfare, or even that
Dutch troops were more inclined to hand out flowers than bullets.


But the Dutch have, as far as it can be done,
built up a deep relationship with the locals
that has helped them navigate the
treacherous complexities of tribal rivalries
.


After years of stalemate and a growing alarm that the NATO-led forces could lose
in Afghanistan, the thinking of top American commanders has swung to a position
much more closely aligned with that of the Dutch and a general realisation that
they can't kill their way to victory.

Australia has two main roles in Afghanistan. Its special forces contingent is one
of the most active in Afghanistan, hitting insurgent targets far from the coalition base
at Tarin Kowt and spending weeks at a time far "outside the wire".

Their operations are cloaked in secrecy and generally only become public
when something goes horribly wrong.

That happened in June, when three of Australia's most experienced special forces
soldiers were killed and seven wounded in a helicopter crash high in the mountains
where they headed out in pitch darkness on a raid against the Taliban.

The losses were the worst suffered by the Australian Army on operations since Vietnam,
and came just a fortnight after two Australian Army engineers, sappers Darren Smith
and Jacob Moerland, were killed by a roadside bomb.

To illustrate the intensity of the secret special forces operations, those soldiers were
veterans on their third tour of duty in Afghanistan and were involved a week before in
a successful attack on a Taliban stronghold that senior officers said tore the heart out of
a major insurgent group. The Australians were among 15 coalition troops aboard
the NATO helicopter.

The pilot, an American, was also killed and another crew member badly hurt when
the aircraft crashed at 3.39am Afghanistan time. Houston,
himself a decorated helicopter pilot, says flying conditions at the
time were extremely difficult, with a combination of very rugged
terrain, high altitude, high temperatures and heavily laden aircraft.

In Afghanistan, the Australian mentors operate often from rudimentary
stone forts called forward operating bases and patrol bases built in valleys that lie
in what was the Taliban heartland in Oruzgan.

Small groups of heavily armed Australians live, train and fight with the
Afghan troops they mentor, undertaking frequent joint patrols to keep
any insurgents in the area on the move, to uncover weapons caches and to
try to reassure the locals that they can confidently turn away the Taliban.

Coalition commanders say the Afghan troops are brave and loyal but lack the discipline
of Western armies. They are not big on planning and are inclined to rush forward to join in any contact and to blaze away over one another's heads.

Operations in areas such as Deh Rawud and the Baluchi Valley, green ribbons of fertile ground winding through the jagged brown mountains of southern Afghanistan, are
dangerous and the Australian troops are exposed.

These valleys have long been used as infiltration routes by Taliban insurgents moving
from the highlands down to Tarin Kowt, and the troops are there to block them.
In winter the area is bitterly cold and the mountains white with snow. In the summer -- fighting season -- it is rocky, dusty and hot.

Special forces, Special Air Service troops and commandos carry out lengthy patrols
farther afield, hunting down insurgent leaders and bomb-making factories.

The Diggers also act on intelligence gathered from local villagers, special forces patrols
and manned and unmanned aircraft to track down insurgents moving through the valley
who might place the lethal bombs known as improvised explosive devices or set up ambushes.

Hugh White, a former deputy secretary in the Defence Department who is now a professor
at the Australian National University, has consistently questioned Australia's military
involvement.
White says it's important to note that we don't actually know why Australia is losing more men.
He says one possibility may be simply bad luck, as in the helicopter crash.
"Another possibility is that the Taliban are stepping up their operations," White says.

He makes the point that we know very little about what's happening on the
ground in Afghanistan because the ADF releases very little information.

"The Taliban seem to be pushing the Australians harder," he says. "Maybe
they think that with the Dutch gone, if they push harder we may be more
willing to go, too.
"A third possibility is that the Australians are taking on more risky operations.

"I think there is an element of that, too. We are taking on a more active mentoring role
with the Afghan National Army. Our guys are going out more with the ANA on joint patrols
in contested country, which is inherently risky.
"With the best will in the world, it's not as safe operating out there with the ANA as
it would be with [fellow Australians]."

White suggests the high number of casualties recently are the consequence of a
combination of bad luck and the increased tempo of operations by both sides.

"At least one of those three factors is under our control and it does seem [important]
to ask whether the extra costs in lives [apparently] being imposed on us by this more
active campaigning strategy is justified by the results we're getting.

"If you believe what the government and opposition are saying, that we're in
Afghanistan to secure a stable future for Afghanistan and reduce the
threat of terrorism, then you might reach one conclusion about how
worthwhile these operations are and whether they are worth the cost.

"But I don't believe anyone in government really thinks that. I think it is
universally accepted in government that we're not going to succeed in
Afghanistan. That we're just hanging on until the Americans go.

"And if that's right then hanging on until the Americans go should be done
at the lowest possible risk to Australian lives, in which case there's
an argument that we should stop doing the more risky operations.

"A lot of people would say that was defeatist, but if we're not seriously
expecting to get a result. -- if we're not seriously expecting that . . .
when we start pulling out [in a few years] the situation will have
improved much -- we've got to be very careful about whether it's worth
our while undertaking more risky operations that are costing us lives
and not changing the strategic outcome."

It all boils down to a simple question, White says: "Are we really serious about getting
a result, or are we going through the motions to hold up our end as a good ally?
"I think it's that latter, and if that's the case then we should be doing everything we can
to make sure that we are going through the motions at the cheapest possible price in lives."
White remains deeply sceptical about the whole strategy.

"The idea that you somehow fundamentally change the Afghan political landscape with
a couple of hundred soldiers and a couple of hundred aid workers . . . Societies are much harder to shift than that.

"The more Australians die, the more seriously the people responsible -- and that is the ministers -- the more they have to interrogate their own judgment about what we're trying to do and whether it's worth it, and whether it's going to work.

"If it's not going to work, if three or five years from now we're going to leave Afghanistan pretty much as it is today -- and I'll bet my boots we will -- then we'll want to ask
ourselves
why there are 21 dead Australians.

"In this situation people focus on those who have already died.

"And they often say we can't stop now because that would betray the people who've already died," White adds.

"What you've really got to focus on is
the people who haven't yet died but who will.


"There are people who are now walking around in uniform
who will die before we leave, and you've got to ask yourself
on what basis are we allowing that to happen."


Three Australian soldiers shot dead in Afghanistan
by:AAP
From:AAP
October 30, 2011

12:00AM
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Deadly attack on Afghanistan foreign troop convoy.

At least four people are killed as a suicide bomber targets a convoy of foreign troops in Kabul (no reporter narration).

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A ROGUE Afghan soldier has opened fire and killed three Australian
army trainers and wounded six others in the volatile south of
Afghanistan, NATO and a local commander have confirmed.

An Afghan National Army (ANA) officer was also shot and wounded.
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is yet to comment on the incident.
The shooting occurred during morning parade at 8.30am (3pm AEDT) at
Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province, the ABC reported.

The alliance force says two Australian diggers were killed and the third
later died of his injuries after ''an individual wearing an Afghan
National Army uniform apparently turned his weapon on Afghan and
coalition forces''.

It said the shooter was also killed in the incident, but gave no further details.

General Abdul Hameed, commander of 205 Atal corps in the south, said an Afghan
soldier with three years' experience had carried out the shooting.


Related Coverage


  • Afghan kills 3 Diggers, wounds 7: report Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
  • Three Diggers dead in Afghan shooting spree Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
  • Five Diggers wounded in Afghanistan Herald Sun, 1 Oct 2011
  • Afghan soldier tried to shoot killer Herald Sun, 2 Jun 2011
  • Renegade Afghan soldiers high on opium Perth Now, 1 Jun 2011
''At around 8.30 this morning (3pm AEDT), an ANA soldier named Darwish who
had been serving as an ANA soldier for the past three years opened fire on a group
of Australian military officers, killing three of them and injuring six others as well as
one ANA officer,'' said Hameed.

''The attacker was also gunned down by ISAF soldiers.''
It's not the first time an ANA soldier has killed an Australian soldier.

In May this year, 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Gordon Jones was shot dead
by a rogue ANA soldier at the Patrol Base Marshal in the Chora Valley.

Fears of infiltration within the Afghan army ranks have risen as Western backers fund
and train a huge expansion of the fledgling national force ahead of the withdrawal of all foreign combat forces scheduled for 2014.

The announcement came as a suicide car bomber in the capital Kabul struck a US-run
NATO bus travelling through the southwest of the city, killing at least 17 people, including 13 US soldiers.

The death of the three diggers overnight is the single worst incident involving Australians since June last year when three members of the Sydney-based 2nd Commando Regiment died in a helicopter crashin Kandahar province.


A total of 32 Australian soldiers have now been killed
in a decade of involvement in Afghanistan.

DUTCH:
Don't Understand The Concept Here

De toekomst van het Internet (1996)
Brilliant visualisation empires decline
DUTCH: Don’t Understand The Concept Here


Dutch is an acronym for:
Don’t Understand The Concept Here.
That’s the accurate reflection
of the Dutch approach to war.
They are like highscool kids on schoolcamp.”
(..)
“The Taliban knows the difference between our uniforms.
And they will go out to find the Dutch,
because they know they will get result.
The Dutch run away or be reluctant to go out.
So they like fighting the Dutch.


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First incident with an
Qantas Airbus A380 -
4 november 2010
( Dutch - Nederlands )

https://youtu.be/r045GRhMLT0

Qantas grounds all aircraft in drastic step | Radio Netherlands ...
www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/qantas-grounds-all-aircraft-drastic-step
9 hours ago –
Australian flag carrier Qantas has taken the drastic step
of grounding all its domestic and international aircraft
as part of an industrial dispute.


"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
Flying? Call 13 13 13 Empty true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flying? Call 13 13 13 346957-guyana-crash
Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

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Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin....

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The future of travel revealed

Flying? Call 13 13 13 695895-galactic-spaceship

GRAND improvements in transport will have you flying to the moon.

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  • Strike: Qantas forces Government to negotiating table
  • Dispute: BREAKING NEWS: Qantas grounds entire fleet
  • Special fares: Virgin, Air Asia come to the rescue
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    LANDED GENTRY: Virgin Galactic SpaceShip2 or VSS Enterprise, glides toward the earth on its first test flight last year.
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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:33 pm

Well, 'tintin' sure didn't like this post.
Only got to scan his last of REPLIES when
the site shut on me:

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I'm surprised 'they' didn't just remotely turn my p.c. off,
as they have been doing lately.

O.K. here's 'tintin's' last post...still won't let me open the previous page:
tintn wrote:
#31891
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Ballack, Clooney, Chelsea and Iran. XI

Flying? Call 13 13 13 179431-giant-lego-man-washed-up-on-florida-beach

Siesta Key

SIESTA KEY BEACH in SARASOTA county.
A few days ago I posted about SARASOTA.
The KEY link to RICHARD STAR-KEY and to JOHN KEY.
The LEGO link to DENMARK and the MERMAID.

Flying? Call 13 13 13 459px-Monica_Seles_Canadian_Open

Monica: Sarasota

MONICA SELES resides in SARASOTA.
Was part of a big post link to STEFI GRAF
and ANDRE AGASSI and hence IRAN.
STEFFI GRAF was the STEIFF link to MERKEL, SARKOZY
and the TEDDY BEAR. (All linked to IRAN)

Flying? Call 13 13 13 1974-emmanuelle-poster

Sylvia Kristel

Flying? Call 13 13 13 Mata_hari_cover

Kristel: Iran

Flying? Call 13 13 13 988

Iran Flight 655

TIPPI HEDREN and the SANHEDRIN.
She was born on the same date as DOLLY PARTON.

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Iran Flight 655


Flying? Call 13 13 13 Iran%20Air%20Flight%20655

Coffins + Fee

FLIGHT 655 means 290 COFFINS and 655 in numbers = FEE.
That's COFFEE....BLACK COFFEE...

Notice also the nr 45 on the pic.
The code of DENMARK

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Kicker: Ballack

German's leading football magazine is KICKER.
It was first published on 14 JULY 1920, the day BALLACK married.

Flying? Call 13 13 13 New_kermit

Kikker

Frog is KIKKER in Dutch.
It was a KIKKER called KERMIT in control of OPERATION AJAX.....
NOTICE THAT CUNT "tintin"
ATTACKS EVERY CROWN BUT HIS DUTCH!!!

In FACT, HE BRAGS THAT
HIS DUTCH CROWN PRINCE
IS THE ANTI-CHRIST,
DELIBERATELY MISS-"managing"
THE WORLD'S WATER SUPPLIES!

And HE BRAGS that
THE DUTCH Royals ARE "ABOVE"
The BRITISH ROYALS in GLOBAL POWER!

While working flat out to BRAINWASH
AUSTRALIANS into BETRAYING THEIR MONARCH!

true lilly wrote:
dixie dean wrote:
#31874
31 which is the Country Code for Neverlands
and then you have the number 13.
Never Lands...
This article is about the country within the
Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Netherlands
Nederland

dixie dean wrote:
#31874
I would also link Christian to Poison. Also Tin-Tin Kyrano is linked to
Puppets, so, someone else is pulling her strings.And notice that Tintin
is a man and Tintin Kyrano is a woman, so is Cori passing herself off
as a Woman when she is a man or are they one of the same?
I don't know
who is pulling my strings the same as anyone else, you can only have
faith that you have some good on the other end.

Maybe God needs to get rid of those bad puppeteers, pup's as in Dog's,
or will those puppeteers and who ever they are connected to see the
Light of Day.
Diggers treading a trigger wire
by:Brendan Nicholson
From:The Australian
August 26, 2010

12:00AM

5 comments

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Australian and Afghan National Army soldiers frequently go on patrols together.
Picture: Gary Ramage
Source:
The Australian

AUSTRALIAN Diggers in Afghanistan are appalled and angered when they
hear their main role in Afghanistan dismissed as just "training the
Afghan army".


The dangers faced daily by the instructors out mentoring the Afghan

National Army were brutally highlighted yesterday when it emerged that
28-year-old Jared MacKinney had been killed in an intense three-hour
battle with Taliban insurgents during a joint patrol with Afghan troops
in the Deh Rawud green zone, west of the Australian base at Tarin Kowt.

He was the fourth Australian killed in Afghanistan in less than a
fortnight. But, more significantly, he was the eighth member of an
Australian training and mentoring team killed in action since they
Australian Defence Force began helping to train the Afghan army.

For those troops the war has become even more dangerous in recent months
as the Dutch troops who had the primary coalition role in Oruzgan pulled
out in August, to be replaced by a largely American force.

The Dutch withdrawal coincided with the Americans' make-or-break
surge against the Taliban, with a big troop build-up designed to clear
the insurgents out of the huge areas they control.

Raspal Khosa, an Afghan specialist from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute,
says the increased fighting is a consequence of US President Barack
Obama's revised "force uplift" strategy being put into effect by General David Petraeus.

Strong coalition contingents were sent into Kandahar and Helmand provinces in particular, and Australians have takenpart in some fighting there.

The US strategy calls for the capture of what the generals call "key terrain districts" and some of those lie in Oruzgan province, Australia's main operational area.
These areas, 121 of them, have been picked because control there gives a marked advantage to whichever side has them.

They contain a population as well as economic and transport corridors. One
of these is Deh Rawud where this week's bitter fighting took place.

"The Taliban is obviously counterattacking to challenge this strategy,"
Khosa says. The insurgents have changed tactics and dramatically
increased the numbers of improvised bombs, which are responsible for the
largest number of military and civilian casualties in Afghanistan.

The Taliban aim is to influence what Khosa calls "the external centre of
gravity": public opinion in the West and the coalition's political will
to continue the fight.
The continuing deaths and the apparent lack of progress do have an effect.
Newspoll has marked dwindling public support for the war in Afghanistan after
many years of conflict and mounting casualties.

The proportion of Australians supporting the commitment of troops has
dropped since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks, when two-thirds supported sending troops; in March last year,
nearly two-thirds were opposed.

The war has not been an election issue because it has the support of the main parties,
and Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott both favour Australia's continued involvement in the
war effort.
The Coalition was fairly gung-ho on the war for a time and pushed for Australia
to take over the lead role in Oruzgan when the Dutch pulled out. But since
the latest wave of casualties began -- and following briefings from ADF chief
Angus Houston -- Abbott has softened the rhetoric and adopted the view that
the size of the commitment is "about right".

The Dutch withdrawal has left a specific vacuum not easily filled by the Americans,
with their more aggressive operational style.
Debate about the Dutch departure concentrated largely on who would replace
the logistics they brought to Oruzgan: the command structure, medical facilities,
helicopters and fast jets that provide air support, and the long-range artillery that
can hit Taliban targets in the mountains around the joint coalition base at Tarin Kowt.
But the issue is more complex.

The Dutch proved adept at building relationships with the tribal people
scattered through Oruzgan's mountain valleys and Australia's troops have
benefited from that rapport.

For a long time Australians working with forces from The Netherlands
were inclined to complain about their lack of aggression and to suggest
that "Dutch" stood for "Don't Understand The Concept Here"
when it came to counter-insurgency warfare, or even that
Dutch troops were more inclined to hand out flowers than bullets.


But the Dutch have, as far as it can be done,
built up a deep relationship with the locals
that has helped them navigate the
treacherous complexities of tribal rivalries
.


After years of stalemate and a growing alarm that the NATO-led forces could lose
in Afghanistan, the thinking of top American commanders has swung to a position
much more closely aligned with that of the Dutch and a general realisation that
they can't kill their way to victory.

Australia has two main roles in Afghanistan. Its special forces contingent is one
of the most active in Afghanistan, hitting insurgent targets far from the coalition base
at Tarin Kowt and spending weeks at a time far "outside the wire".

Their operations are cloaked in secrecy and generally only become public
when something goes horribly wrong.

That happened in June, when three of Australia's most experienced special forces
soldiers were killed and seven wounded in a helicopter crash high in the mountains
where they headed out in pitch darkness on a raid against the Taliban.

The losses were the worst suffered by the Australian Army on operations since Vietnam,
and came just a fortnight after two Australian Army engineers, sappers Darren Smith
and Jacob Moerland, were killed by a roadside bomb.

To illustrate the intensity of the secret special forces operations, those soldiers were
veterans on their third tour of duty in Afghanistan and were involved a week before in
a successful attack on a Taliban stronghold that senior officers said tore the heart out of
a major insurgent group. The Australians were among 15 coalition troops aboard
the NATO helicopter.

The pilot, an American, was also killed and another crew member badly hurt when
the aircraft crashed at 3.39am Afghanistan time. Houston,
himself a decorated helicopter pilot, says flying conditions at the
time were extremely difficult, with a combination of very rugged
terrain, high altitude, high temperatures and heavily laden aircraft.

In Afghanistan, the Australian mentors operate often from rudimentary
stone forts called forward operating bases and patrol bases built in valleys that lie
in what was the Taliban heartland in Oruzgan.

Small groups of heavily armed Australians live, train and fight with the
Afghan troops they mentor, undertaking frequent joint patrols to keep
any insurgents in the area on the move, to uncover weapons caches and to
try to reassure the locals that they can confidently turn away the Taliban.

Coalition commanders say the Afghan troops are brave and loyal but lack the discipline
of Western armies. They are not big on planning and are inclined to rush forward to join in any contact and to blaze away over one another's heads.

Operations in areas such as Deh Rawud and the Baluchi Valley, green ribbons of fertile ground winding through the jagged brown mountains of southern Afghanistan, are
dangerous and the Australian troops are exposed.

These valleys have long been used as infiltration routes by Taliban insurgents moving
from the highlands down to Tarin Kowt, and the troops are there to block them.
In winter the area is bitterly cold and the mountains white with snow. In the summer -- fighting season -- it is rocky, dusty and hot.

Special forces, Special Air Service troops and commandos carry out lengthy patrols
farther afield, hunting down insurgent leaders and bomb-making factories.

The Diggers also act on intelligence gathered from local villagers, special forces patrols
and manned and unmanned aircraft to track down insurgents moving through the valley
who might place the lethal bombs known as improvised explosive devices or set up ambushes.

Hugh White, a former deputy secretary in the Defence Department who is now a professor
at the Australian National University, has consistently questioned Australia's military
involvement.
White says it's important to note that we don't actually know why Australia is losing more men.
He says one possibility may be simply bad luck, as in the helicopter crash.
"Another possibility is that the Taliban are stepping up their operations," White says.

He makes the point that we know very little about what's happening on the
ground in Afghanistan because the ADF releases very little information.

"The Taliban seem to be pushing the Australians harder," he says. "Maybe
they think that with the Dutch gone, if they push harder we may be more
willing to go, too.
"A third possibility is that the Australians are taking on more risky operations.

"I think there is an element of that, too. We are taking on a more active mentoring role
with the Afghan National Army. Our guys are going out more with the ANA on joint patrols
in contested country, which is inherently risky.
"With the best will in the world, it's not as safe operating out there with the ANA as
it would be with [fellow Australians]."

White suggests the high number of casualties recently are the consequence of a
combination of bad luck and the increased tempo of operations by both sides.

"At least one of those three factors is under our control and it does seem [important]
to ask whether the extra costs in lives [apparently] being imposed on us by this more
active campaigning strategy is justified by the results we're getting.

"If you believe what the government and opposition are saying, that we're in
Afghanistan to secure a stable future for Afghanistan and reduce the
threat of terrorism, then you might reach one conclusion about how
worthwhile these operations are and whether they are worth the cost.

"But I don't believe anyone in government really thinks that. I think it is
universally accepted in government that we're not going to succeed in
Afghanistan. That we're just hanging on until the Americans go.

"And if that's right then hanging on until the Americans go should be done
at the lowest possible risk to Australian lives, in which case there's
an argument that we should stop doing the more risky operations.

"A lot of people would say that was defeatist, but if we're not seriously
expecting to get a result. -- if we're not seriously expecting that . . .
when we start pulling out [in a few years] the situation will have
improved much -- we've got to be very careful about whether it's worth
our while undertaking more risky operations that are costing us lives
and not changing the strategic outcome."

It all boils down to a simple question, White says: "Are we really serious about getting
a result, or are we going through the motions to hold up our end as a good ally?
"I think it's that latter, and if that's the case then we should be doing everything we can
to make sure that we are going through the motions at the cheapest possible price in lives."
White remains deeply sceptical about the whole strategy.

"The idea that you somehow fundamentally change the Afghan political landscape with
a couple of hundred soldiers and a couple of hundred aid workers . . . Societies are much harder to shift than that.

"The more Australians die, the more seriously the people responsible -- and that is the ministers -- the more they have to interrogate their own judgment about what we're trying to do and whether it's worth it, and whether it's going to work.

"If it's not going to work, if three or five years from now we're going to leave Afghanistan pretty much as it is today -- and I'll bet my boots we will -- then we'll want to ask
ourselves
why there are 21 dead Australians.

"In this situation people focus on those who have already died.

"And they often say we can't stop now because that would betray the people who've already died," White adds.

"What you've really got to focus on is
the people who haven't yet died but who will.


"There are people who are now walking around in uniform
who will die before we leave, and you've got to ask yourself
on what basis are we allowing that to happen."


Three Australian soldiers shot dead in Afghanistan
by:AAP
From:AAP
October 30, 2011

12:00AM
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Watch
Deadly attack on Afghanistan foreign troop convoy.

At least four people are killed as a suicide bomber targets a convoy of foreign troops in Kabul (no reporter narration).

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US soldiers gather by bodies of victims of a suicide car bomber in Kabul.
AP< Prev
1 of 3 Next >

A ROGUE Afghan soldier has opened fire and killed three Australian
army trainers and wounded six others in the volatile south of
Afghanistan, NATO and a local commander have confirmed.

An Afghan National Army (ANA) officer was also shot and wounded.
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is yet to comment on the incident.
The shooting occurred during morning parade at 8.30am (3pm AEDT) at
Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province, the ABC reported.

The alliance force says two Australian diggers were killed and the third
later died of his injuries after ''an individual wearing an Afghan
National Army uniform apparently turned his weapon on Afghan and
coalition forces''.

It said the shooter was also killed in the incident, but gave no further details.

General Abdul Hameed, commander of 205 Atal corps in the south, said an Afghan
soldier with three years' experience had carried out the shooting.


Related Coverage


  • Afghan kills 3 Diggers, wounds 7: report Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
  • Three Diggers dead in Afghan shooting spree Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
  • Five Diggers wounded in Afghanistan Herald Sun, 1 Oct 2011
  • Afghan soldier tried to shoot killer Herald Sun, 2 Jun 2011
  • Renegade Afghan soldiers high on opium Perth Now, 1 Jun 2011
''At around 8.30 this morning (3pm AEDT), an ANA soldier named Darwish who
had been serving as an ANA soldier for the past three years opened fire on a group
of Australian military officers, killing three of them and injuring six others as well as
one ANA officer,'' said Hameed.

''The attacker was also gunned down by ISAF soldiers.''
It's not the first time an ANA soldier has killed an Australian soldier.

In May this year, 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Gordon Jones was shot dead
by a rogue ANA soldier at the Patrol Base Marshal in the Chora Valley.

Fears of infiltration within the Afghan army ranks have risen as Western backers fund
and train a huge expansion of the fledgling national force ahead of the withdrawal of all foreign combat forces scheduled for 2014.

The announcement came as a suicide car bomber in the capital Kabul struck a US-run
NATO bus travelling through the southwest of the city, killing at least 17 people, including 13 US soldiers.

The death of the three diggers overnight is the single worst incident involving Australians since June last year when three members of the Sydney-based 2nd Commando Regiment died in a helicopter crashin Kandahar province.


A total of 32 Australian soldiers have now been killed
in a decade of involvement in Afghanistan.

DUTCH:
Don't Understand The Concept Here

De toekomst van het Internet (1996)
Brilliant visualisation empires decline
DUTCH: Don’t Understand The Concept Here


Dutch is an acronym for:
Don’t Understand The Concept Here.
That’s the accurate reflection
of the Dutch approach to war.
They are like highscool kids on schoolcamp.”
(..)
“The Taliban knows the difference between our uniforms.
And they will go out to find the Dutch,
because they know they will get result.
The Dutch run away or be reluctant to go out.
So they like fighting the Dutch.


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First incident with an
Qantas Airbus A380 -
4 november 2010
( Dutch - Nederlands )

https://youtu.be/r045GRhMLT0

Qantas grounds all aircraft in drastic step | Radio Netherlands ...
www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/qantas-grounds-all-aircraft-drastic-step
9 hours ago –
Australian flag carrier Qantas has taken the drastic step
of grounding all its domestic and international aircraft
as part of an industrial dispute.


"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
Flying? Call 13 13 13 Empty true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flying? Call 13 13 13 346957-guyana-crash
Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

Flying? Call 13 13 13 800173-tintin
Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin....



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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:29 pm

Pilots ponder legal action
over 'insane' Qantas grounding

From:AAP
October 30, 2011
11:46AM

THE Australian International Pilots Association (AIPA) is looking
into taking legal action against Qantas, describing the decision to
ground the fleet as "insane" and possibly in breach of the Fair Work Act.


Speaking outside the Qantas domestic terminal at Sydney Airport,
AIPA vice-president Captain Richard Woodward said the union had its
legal team looking into the legal options.

"We think that Alan (Joyce) may have been in breach of the Fair Work Act by his actions,"
he said.


"He has locked out the short-haul pilots,
they are not in this dispute -
their award is not up for negotiation
until next year."


Mr Woodward said

the short-haul operations of Qantas
was the most profitable arm of the airline.


"It's an insane reaction,"
he said.


Qantas pilots never had any intention of going on strike
and claims to the contrary were simply untrue,
Mr Woodward said.

Related Coverage
Qantas grounds all flights The Australian, 1 hour ago
Pilots say reaction was well planned Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Joyce 'holding knife to nation's throat' Perth Now, 1 hour ago
Qantas plans worst scenario The Daily Telegraph, 5 days ago
Pilots may ramp up action Foundation, 18 Oct 2011

"All we were thinking about doing was
not ringing in before heading into work," he said.

"We are very conservative people,
we know that Qantas passengers hold us in
trust ...
they trust us to get them there safely
and we always
intended on doing that."


AIPA said it was seeking a new clause in the enterprise bargaining agreement

with Qantas that would
ensure that all of the airline's flights
were operated by pilots from the flying kangaroo
as opposed to being outsourced.


He said the only industrial action Qantas pilots had been taking was inflight

announcements about the industrial dispute as well as the donning of red
ties that carried the message "Qantas flight, Qantas pilots".

ASSISTANT Treasurer Bill Shorten says Qantas' decision to ground its
fleet was a "radical overreaction" to the standoff between the airline
and unions.

"You don't lock out your passengers to square off with your employees,"
Mr Shorten said.

"If the unions had locked out the passengers,
I would have been equally outraged,

"But in this case it is the Qantas management that has done, in my opinion,
the premature and wrong thing when plenty could have been done in a
sensible nature."

______________________________________________________________

Some may remember that we recently admitted to
NOT DOING SECURITY CHECKS...and KNOWING we WEREN'T
FOR A LONG TIME...


Defence overhaul after fake security checks - ABC News (Australian ...
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-20/defence...security.../3580568
20 Oct 2011 – Related Story: Defence to investigate fake security checks ...

Qantas flights resume following security breach at Sydney Airport
POSTED ON 19/9/11 LATEST:

Qantas flights from Sydney Airport's
domestic terminal have recommenced,
following a security breach late this morning
when two people entered the secure area of the terminal
without underg...

Australian Airport Workers Face Stringent Security Checks | News 4 Us
www.news4us.com/australian-airport...security-checks/2210272/
3 May 2011News 4 Us · Home · Featured News ... Australian Airport Workers Face Stringent Security Checks. Australia ... Pinging is currently not allowed. ...

Vic, WA fight ID theft with document checks - Security - News ...

www.zdnet.com.au/vic-wa-fight-id-theft-with-document-checks-339...
11 Jul 2011 – Victoria and Western Australia have signed up to use a ... FTTP" Why not roll out FTTP save time and money by doing the job properly the first ti. ...

Defence staff told to fake security checks - ABC News (Australian ...

www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-16/...to...security-checks/2716110
16 May 2011 – Three former Defence Department staff say security at Australian military ... They were responsible for doing security checks on private security guards ... is not an address here, no employment, questions like that," she said. ...

Czech President Klaus
refuses to pass security check
in Australian parliament.

Czech President Klaus refuses to pass security check in Australian parliament
Posted by EIP-News
Posted on Tuesday, July 26th, 2011
Flying? Call 13 13 13 Czech-President-Vaclav-Klaus
Czech President Vaclav Klaus, on a trip to Australia,
today refused to pass through a security check at the
entrance to the Australian parliament, server abc.net.au has reported,
citing a witness from among local journalists.


Australian TV channel ABC1, which has its studio in the parliament
building, wanted to make an interview with Klaus, who, however,
refused to go through a security detector.


The programme producer Michelle Ainsworth, who had waited for him
behind the detector in order to usher him to the studio, informed him
that all visitors are supposed to undergo the check.


Klaus, nevertheless, insisted on not doing so.

Ainsworth consulted a parliament security guard
who confirmed that everybody must pass through the check.


In reaction to this, Klaus said he would not go through and returned
to his hotel. To make an interview with him, the ABC1 may visit him in
the hotel, he said.


He left without saying good-bye, said Ainsworth.

According to the server theaustralian.com.au, ABC1
could not make the interview outside its studio for technical reasons.


Klaus, 70, has been on a trip to Australia since last week with a
series of lectures on climate change, the theory he resolutely
denies.(ČTK-Czech Press Agency).
___________________________________________

...so I get the feeling this TOTAL GROUNDING of QANTAS
was us being, "ALERT AND ALARMED"!!!

...and of course, 'they' still 'simply have to' keep messing with this post
Rolling Eyes


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Post  true lilly Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:40 pm


I quickly posted the news below,
BEFORE MY P.C. WAS REMOTELY TURNED OFF, AGAIN,
as it WAS, BEFORE I SENT the previous post.

I hadn't even finished writing it, and sure enough,
when I got the pages back up, the previous post
was NOT THERE, so I went back to simply copying and pasting
what I started with, and sent it 'as is', without fixing the format,
then I clicked 'send', and low and behold, there was my OLD,
UNSENT POST, on the page.

So anyway, I've left this page as a reminder to thinking readers;
that when 'they' slag me off, for "cut & paste/spam",
'they' KNOW VERY WELL that, THAT TO, IS A BALD FACED LIE,
as ALL MY NEWS POSTS WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS, IF I didn't
care to bother to at least to format them to be readable.

And, UNLIKE "tintin" and his team, I DON'T invent a swap of
UN-RELATED, UN-CONNECTED, OLD, NON-News, to EXCUSE
and HIDE, SECRET CODED MESSAGES 'They' DO WRITE IN to
'Their' Posts.

I simply share News and information
that
IS ALREADY FREELY AVAILABLE,
and ask folk to REALLY THINK, FOR THEMSELVES,
about what it all REALLY MEANS,
IN THE SAVING LIGHT of THE TRUTH of GOD'S,
LOVING, WARNING WORD, that is also, still,
FREELY AVAILABLE for ALL TO STUDY.

John 1:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#1

In 1722 the beginning 746 was 2258 the Word 3056,
and 2532 the Word 3056 was 2258 with 4314 God 2316,
and 2532 the Word 3056 was 2258 God 2316.


The same 3778 was 2258
in 1722 the beginning 746
with 4314 God 2316.

All things 3956 were made 1096 by 1223 him 846;
and 2532 without 5565 him 846 was 1096 0 not 3761
any thing 1520 made 1096 that 3739 was made 1096 .


In 1722 him 846 was 2258 life 2222;
and 2532 the life 2222
was 2258 the light 5457 of men 444.


And 2532 the light 5457 shineth 5316
in 1722 darkness 4653;
and 2532 the darkness 4653
comprehended 2638 it 846 not 3756.


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THE Australian International Pilots Association (AIPA) is looking
into taking legal action against Qantas, describing the decision to
ground the fleet as "insane" and possibly in breach of the Fair Work
Act.






Speaking outside the Qantas domestic terminal at Sydney Airport,
AIPA vice-president Captain Richard Woodward said the union had its
legal team looking into the legal options.
"We think that Alan (Joyce) may have been in breach of the Fair Work Act by his actions," he said.
"He has locked out the short-haul pilots, they are not in this dispute - their award is not up for negotiation until next year."
Mr Woodward said the short-haul operations of Qantas was the most profitable arm of the airline.
"It's an insane reaction," he said.
Qantas pilots never had any intention of going on strike and claims to the contrary were simply untrue, Mr Woodward said.



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"All we were thinking about doing was not ringing in before heading into work," he said.
"We
are very conservative people, we know that Qantas passengers hold us in
trust ... they trust us to get them there safely and we always intended
on doing that."
AIPA said it was seeking a new clause in the
enterprise bargaining agreement with Qantas that would ensure that all
of the airline's flights were operated by pilots from the flying
kangaroo as opposed to being outsourced.
He said the only
industrial action Qantas pilots had been taking was inflight
announcements about the industrial dispute as well as the donning of red
ties that carried the message "Qantas flight, Qantas pilots".

ASSISTANT Treasurer Bill Shorten says Qantas' decision to ground its
fleet was a "radical overreaction" to the standoff between the airline
and unions.
"You don't lock out your passengers to square off with your employees," Mr Shorten said.
"If the unions had locked out the passengers, I would have been equally outraged,
"But
in this case it is the Qantas management that has done, in my opinion,
the premature and wrong thing when plenty could have been done in a
sensible nature."

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QANTAS FORCED to ground it's aircraft!
Qantas 'forced' to ground its aircraft
news.ninemsn.com.au/national/.../fair-work-qantas-hearing-resumes
22 minutes ago –
Qantas
says safety concerns necessitated the grounding of its fleet. ...
this organisation ...
at that point in time, we were in a very risky situation." ...
Flying? Call 13 13 13 5487965
PERTH, Australia - Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II
Saturday departed Australia
after a hugely successful tour in which she
was greeted by tens of thousands of well-wishers.
The 85-year-old
monarch arrived in Canberra on October 19 on her first trip to Australia
in five years
to open the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in
Perth on Friday.

Based in the national capital for much of the
visit, the queen and Prince Philip also toured Brisbane and Melbourne
before arriving in Perth for the Commonwealth gathering hosted by
Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

The British Airways plane carrying the royal couple
departed Perth at 0500 GMT.
© Copyright (c) AFP
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Britain+Queen+Elizabeth+leaves+Australia/5625749/story.html#ixzz1cFQE6wT3

So, OUR REIGNING MONARCH
(who Team Tintin/David Icke CONSTANTLY ATTACK,
while LEAVING THE DUTCH QUEEN ALONE),
WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN IN THE AIR
for ANY Qantas Plane to possibly CRASH INTO...

think about it...The TIMING...THE CONSEQUENCES!!!

And even if "They" couldn't get to HER Plane,
a Major Qantas Crash IN AUSTRALIA AS SHE was
FLYING OUT, WOULD HAVE GOT A LOT of
THE COMMONWEALTH NATIONS, VERY NERVOUS
about SHOWING FIDELITY To a MONARCH who left us
with such a TERRORIST ACT.

It also explains WHY
"Those" "OCCUPY" TRAITOROUS EVIL LEFTIES,
left HER ALONE..."THEY" EXPECTED to have to 'play'
the "mourning, double 'King Hit'" "aussies", to
COVER 'THEIR' FILTHY HANDS IN THE PLOTS!!!

But, Thank God, OUR QUEEN got on and off HER Plane,
AND DIDN'T LEAVE OUR/THE WORLD'S SAFEST Airline

TO KILL FOR "THEM"!

And remember, CATHOLICS CAN, NOW,
INHERIT The BRITISH CROWN...
so, OUR Queen/OUR First Catholic Saint's day,
BOTH would have been KEY targets
for OUR NATIONAL HUMILIATION.

Then of course we had/have all that
NOT doing Security Checks news,
AND all the ISLAMIC'S that WORK FOR OUR AIRLINES,
particularly QANTAS in SYDNEY,
where THEY WERE/ARE A KNOWN SECURITY THREAT!

But then, we can't tell the nation that OUR,
THE SAFEST Airline EVER, was NO LONGER SAFE,
BECAUSE of our,
"lets be nice to invading Muslims Propaganda:
From the Left Wing we still need OUR Spies to work in",
so hey, easy excuse for grounding every Qantas plane,
BLAME IT ON THE UNIONS AND BIG BUCK EXECUTIVES!

Everyone will buy that!...
without even stopping to think once,
let alone twice.

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...mmm...Black Horse...that's 'death'...
'death' 'raring to go'...
so we say NO!...and put all four feet
and all Qantas plane wheels,
firmly back on the ground...

true lilly wrote:Flying? Call 13 13 13 217816-rachael-finch

Former Miss Universe Australia Rachael Finch
has gone from catwalk to Cup carnival,
ready to take on a role as a roving reporter
inside the Birdcage at the Melbourne Cup.

Picture: Peter Brew-Bevan
Read More
Rare
Melbourne Cup trophy
and
Queen's Plate trophy
sell for six-figure sum

From:Herald Sun
October 26, 2011
Flying? Call 13 13 13 643957-1867-melbourne-cup
The historic 1867 Melbourne Cup. Herald Sun

A HISTORIC Melbourne Cup trophy and Queen's Plate trophy won by the
same horse almost 150 years ago have sold at auction for a six-figure
sum.


The
two trophies, held by the Royds family since racehorse Tim Whiffler's
1867 Cup win, were sold for $720,000 yesterday, a week before the 151st
Melbourne Cup.


The auction was the first time the two trophies have been available publicly.

Sotheby's Australia chairman Geoffrey Smith said
they were invaluable items of Australian racing history.


"With the global prominence of the Melbourne Cup today, they are also of
international significance,
and we are receiving interest from local and
overseas sources," Mr Smith said before the auction.


Kevin Gates of the Australian Racing Museum said the story of the cups was unique.


"For a horse to win both races and bring both cups to the same family, and
for that family to still hold them 144 years later, is quite
remarkable," Mr Gates said.

Related Coverage
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Qantas grounding 'won't hurt Melbourne Cup'
From:AAP
October 29, 2011
7:52PM


THE Victoria Racing Club says it is confident that the grounding of
the Qantas fleet will not hurt Melbourne Cup celebrations.

"Melbourne is a truly international city, well-serviced by a
variety of carriers and modes of transport," the club said in a
statement.


"This is one of the reasons why the city is so well positioned to host
internationally recognised events such as the Melbourne Cup Carnival.


"The Victoria Racing Club is confident that Australia's very professional
travel and tourism industry will cope
with the demands of the travelling public
and we are expecting a strong
contingent of interstate and overseas visitors to Flemington to
complement a large local crowd."


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QANTAS FORCED to ground it's aircraft!
Qantas 'forced' to ground its aircraft
news.ninemsn.com.au/national/.../fair-work-qantas-hearing-resumes
22 minutes ago –
Qantas
says safety concerns necessitated the grounding of its fleet. ...
this organisation ...
at that point in time, we were in a very risky situation." ...
Flying? Call 13 13 13 5487965
PERTH, Australia - Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II
Saturday departed Australia
after a hugely successful tour in which she
was greeted by tens of thousands of well-wishers.

The 85-year-old monarch arrived in Canberra on October 19
on her first trip to Australia in five years
to open the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting
in Perth on Friday.


Based in the national capital for much of the visit, the queen and Prince Philip
also toured Brisbane and Melbourne before arriving in Perth for the
Commonwealth gathering hosted by Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

The British Airways plane carrying the royal couple
departed Perth at 0500 GMT.
© Copyright (c) AFP
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Britain+Queen+Elizabeth+leaves+Australia/5625749/story.html#ixzz1cFQE6wT3

So, OUR REIGNING MONARCH
(who Team Tintin/David Icke CONSTANTLY ATTACK,
while LEAVING THE DUTCH QUEEN ALONE),
WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN IN THE AIR
for ANY Qantas Plane to possibly CRASH INTO...

think about it...The TIMING...THE CONSEQUENCES!!!

And even if "They" couldn't get to HER Plane,
a Major Qantas Crash IN AUSTRALIA AS SHE was
FLYING OUT, WOULD HAVE GOT A LOT of
THE COMMONWEALTH NATIONS, VERY NERVOUS
about SHOWING FIDELITY To a MONARCH who left us
with such a TERRORIST ACT.

It also explains WHY
"Those" "OCCUPY" TRAITOROUS EVIL LEFTIES,
left HER ALONE..."THEY" EXPECTED to have to 'play'
the "mourning, double 'King Hit'" "aussies", to
COVER 'THEIR' FILTHY HANDS IN THE PLOTS!!!

But, Thank God, OUR QUEEN got on and off HER Plane,
AND DIDN'T LEAVE OUR/THE WORLD'S SAFEST Airline

TO KILL FOR "THEM"!

And remember, CATHOLICS CAN, NOW,
INHERIT The BRITISH CROWN...
so, OUR Queen/OUR First Catholic Saint's day,
BOTH would have been KEY targets
for OUR NATIONAL HUMILIATION.

Then of course we had/have all that
NOT doing Security Checks news,
AND all the ISLAMIC'S that WORK FOR OUR AIRLINES,
particularly QANTAS in SYDNEY,
where THEY WERE/ARE A KNOWN SECURITY THREAT!

But then, we can't tell the nation that OUR,
THE SAFEST Airline EVER, was NO LONGER SAFE,
BECAUSE of our,
"lets be nice to invading Muslims Propaganda:
From the Left Wing we still need OUR Spies to work in",
so hey, easy excuse for grounding every Qantas plane,
BLAME IT ON THE UNIONS AND BIG BUCK EXECUTIVES!

Everyone will buy that!...
without even stopping to think once,
let alone twice.


Well, 'tintin' sure didn't like this post.
Only got to scan his last of REPLIES when
the site shut on me:

Flying? Call 13 13 13 Image Database error
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Please try the following:

  • Load the page again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
  • Open the forum.davidicke.com home page, then try to open another page.
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The forum.davidicke.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them if the problem persists.

We apologise for any inconvenience.

I'm surprised 'they' didn't just remotely turn my p.c. off,
as they have been doing lately.

O.K. here's 'tintin's' last post...still won't let me open the previous page:
tintn wrote:
#31891
Flying? Call 13 13 13 Image

Ballack, Clooney, Chelsea and Iran. XI

Flying? Call 13 13 13 179431-giant-lego-man-washed-up-on-florida-beach

Siesta Key

SIESTA KEY BEACH in SARASOTA county.
A few days ago I posted about SARASOTA.
The KEY link to RICHARD STAR-KEY and to JOHN KEY.
The LEGO link to DENMARK and the MERMAID.

Flying? Call 13 13 13 459px-Monica_Seles_Canadian_Open

Monica: Sarasota

MONICA SELES resides in SARASOTA.
Was part of a big post link to STEFI GRAF
and ANDRE AGASSI and hence IRAN.
STEFFI GRAF was the STEIFF link to MERKEL, SARKOZY
and the TEDDY BEAR. (All linked to IRAN)

Flying? Call 13 13 13 1974-emmanuelle-poster

Sylvia Kristel

Flying? Call 13 13 13 Mata_hari_cover

Kristel: Iran

Flying? Call 13 13 13 988

Iran Flight 655

TIPPI HEDREN and the SANHEDRIN.
She was born on the same date as DOLLY PARTON.

Flying? Call 13 13 13 800px-A_small_cup_of_coffee

Iran Flight 655


Flying? Call 13 13 13 Iran%20Air%20Flight%20655

Coffins + Fee

FLIGHT 655 means 290 COFFINS and 655 in numbers = FEE.
That's COFFEE....BLACK COFFEE...

Notice also the nr 45 on the pic.
The code of DENMARK

Flying? Call 13 13 13 1984-10-29kicker

Kicker: Ballack

German's leading football magazine is KICKER.
It was first published on 14 JULY 1920, the day BALLACK married.

Flying? Call 13 13 13 New_kermit

Kikker

Frog is KIKKER in Dutch.
It was a KIKKER called KERMIT in control of OPERATION AJAX.....

NOTICE THAT CUNT "tintin"
ATTACKS EVERY CROWN BUT HIS DUTCH!!!

In FACT, HE BRAGS THAT
HIS DUTCH CROWN PRINCE
IS THE ANTI-CHRIST,
DELIBERATELY MISS-"managing"
THE WORLD'S WATER SUPPLIES!

And HE BRAGS that
THE DUTCH Royals ARE "ABOVE"
The BRITISH ROYALS in GLOBAL POWER!

While working flat out to BRAINWASH
AUSTRALIANS into
BETRAYING THEIR MONARCH!


true lilly wrote:
dixie dean wrote:
#31874
31 which is the Country Code for Neverlands
and then you have the number 13.
Never Lands...
This article is about the country within the
Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Netherlands
Nederland

dixie dean wrote:
#31874
I would also link Christian to Poison. Also Tin-Tin Kyrano is linked to
Puppets, so, someone else is pulling her strings.And notice that Tintin
is a man and Tintin Kyrano is a woman, so is Cori passing herself off
as a Woman when she is a man or are they one of the same?
I don't know
who is pulling my strings the same as anyone else, you can only have
faith that you have some good on the other end.

Maybe God needs to get rid of those bad puppeteers, pup's as in Dog's,
or will those puppeteers and who ever they are connected to see the
Light of Day.
Diggers treading a trigger wire
by:Brendan Nicholson
From:The Australian
August 26, 2010

12:00AM

5 comments

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Australian and Afghan National Army soldiers frequently go on patrols together.
Picture: Gary Ramage
Source:
The Australian

AUSTRALIAN Diggers in Afghanistan are appalled and angered when they
hear their main role in Afghanistan dismissed as just "training the
Afghan army".


Three Australian soldiers shot dead in Afghanistan
by:AAP
From:AAP
October 30, 2011

12:00AM
Flying? Call 13 13 13 2011-10-29t102423z_1_love79s0swm4o_rtrmadp_baseimage-960x540_afghanistan-suicide-attack-aftermath-rough-cut-o_648x365_2161930417-hero

Watch
Deadly attack on Afghanistan foreign troop convoy.

At least four people are killed as a suicide bomber targets a convoy of foreign troops in Kabul (no reporter narration).

Flying? Call 13 13 13 507774-afghanistan
US soldiers gather by bodies of victims of a suicide car bomber in Kabul.
AP< Prev
1 of 3 Next >

A ROGUE Afghan soldier has opened fire and killed three Australian
army trainers and wounded six others in the volatile south of
Afghanistan, NATO and a local commander have confirmed.

An Afghan National Army (ANA) officer was also shot and wounded.
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is yet to comment on the incident.
The shooting occurred during morning parade at 8.30am (3pm AEDT) at
Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province, the ABC reported.

The alliance force says two Australian diggers were killed and the third
later died of his injuries after ''an individual wearing an Afghan
National Army uniform apparently turned his weapon on Afghan and
coalition forces''.

It said the shooter was also killed in the incident, but gave no further details.

General Abdul Hameed, commander of 205 Atal corps in the south, said an Afghan
soldier with three years' experience had carried out the shooting.


Related Coverage


  • Afghan kills 3 Diggers, wounds 7: report Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
  • Three Diggers dead in Afghan shooting spree Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
  • Five Diggers wounded in Afghanistan Herald Sun, 1 Oct 2011
  • Afghan soldier tried to shoot killer Herald Sun, 2 Jun 2011
  • Renegade Afghan soldiers high on opium Perth Now, 1 Jun 2011

''At around 8.30 this morning (3pm AEDT), an ANA soldier named Darwish who
had been serving as an ANA soldier for the past three years opened fire on a group
of Australian military officers, killing three of them and injuring six others as well as
one ANA officer,'' said Hameed.

''The attacker was also gunned down by ISAF soldiers.''
It's not the first time an ANA soldier has killed an Australian soldier.

In May this year, 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Gordon Jones was shot dead
by a rogue ANA soldier at the Patrol Base Marshal in the Chora Valley.

Fears of infiltration within the Afghan army ranks have risen as Western backers
fund and train a huge expansion of the fledgling national force ahead of the
withdrawal of all foreign combat forces scheduled for 2014.

The announcement came as a suicide car bomber in the capital Kabul struck a US-run
NATO bus travelling through the southwest of the city, killing at least 17 people, including 13 US soldiers.

The death of the three diggers overnight is the
single worst incident involving Australians since June last year when
three members of the Sydney-based 2nd Commando Regiment
died in a helicopter crash
in Kandahar province.


A total of 32 Australian soldiers have now been killed
in a decade of involvement in Afghanistan.

DUTCH:
Don't Understand The Concept Here

De toekomst van het Internet (1996)
Brilliant visualisation empires decline
DUTCH: Don’t Understand The Concept Here


Dutch is an acronym for:
Don’t Understand The Concept Here.
That’s the accurate reflection
of the Dutch approach to war.
They are like highscool kids on schoolcamp.”
(..)
“The Taliban knows the difference between our uniforms.
And they will go out to find the Dutch,
because they know they will get result.
The Dutch run away or be reluctant to go out.
So they like fighting the Dutch.


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First incident with an
Qantas Airbus A380 -
4 november 2010
( Dutch - Nederlands )

https://youtu.be/r045GRhMLT0

Qantas grounds all aircraft in drastic step | Radio Netherlands ...
www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/qantas-grounds-all-aircraft-drastic-step
9 hours ago –
Australian flag carrier Qantas has taken the drastic step
of grounding all its domestic and international aircraft
as part of an industrial dispute.


"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
Flying? Call 13 13 13 Empty true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flying? Call 13 13 13 346957-guyana-crash
Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

Flying? Call 13 13 13 800173-tintin
Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin....
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Post  true lilly Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:31 am

Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly
Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly
Flying? Call 13 13 13 956909-alan-joyce
1:59AM
Stephen Drill, Neil Wilson

QANTAS has blamed tired and stressed pilots
for its decision to ground its aircraft
and leave 68,000 passengers in limbo.


Pictures: Chaos as Qantas grounds fleet
Poll: Has Qantas gone too far?
Crisis: Tourism industry on official red alert
New flights: Qantas passengers pay high price
Outrage: Passengers' travel plans ruined
Racing carnival: Celebrities in race for flights
Heroism: Brother to bring fallen soldier home
Flying? Call 13 13 13 955548-qantas-planes
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Post  true lilly Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:16 am

Qantas set to return to the skies
Qantas set to return to the skies
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Stephen Drill, Neil Wilson
FAIR Work Australia
has granted a full termination
of the protected industrial action
against Qantas.


Brother to bring fallen soldier home

Brother to bring fallen soldier home
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Emily Macdonald, Phillip Hudson
ONE of the three Diggers killed
in Afghanistan at the weekend
will be brought home by his brother,
who was serving beside him.


Poll: Should we continue training the Afghan Army?
Poll: Is it time for Australia to withdraw from Afghanistan?
Killings: Aussies reel at Afghan enemy within
Alan Howe: Who are Australian soldiers dying for?
Ian McPhedran: We owe it to dead Diggers to stay
true lilly wrote:Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly
Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly
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1:59AM
Stephen Drill, Neil Wilson

QANTAS has blamed tired and stressed pilots
for its decision to ground its aircraft
and leave 68,000 passengers in limbo.


Pictures: Chaos as Qantas grounds fleet
Poll: Has Qantas gone too far?
Crisis: Tourism industry on official red alert
New flights: Qantas passengers pay high price
Outrage: Passengers' travel plans ruined
Racing carnival: Celebrities in race for flights
Heroism: Brother to bring fallen soldier home
Flying? Call 13 13 13 955548-qantas-planesTourism RED ALERT
ABJURE

Legal Dictionary
Main Entry: ab·jure
Pronunciation: ab-'jur, &b-
Function:
transitive verb Inflected
Forms: ab·jured; ab·jur·ing
Etymology:
Latin abjurare,
from ab- off + jurare to swear :
RENOUNCE; specifically :
to disclaim formally or renounce upon oath
abjures his allegiance to his former
country>
ab·ju·ra·tion /"ab-j&-'rA-sh&n/ noun

ABJURE
1.to renounce, repudiate, or retract,
especially with formal solemnity;

recant: to abjure one's errors.


2.to renounce or give up under oath;
forswear: to abjure allegiance.


3.to avoid or shun.


Strike Force Abjure
has been set up
to investigate the shooting,

Read more:
http://www.news.com.au/national/man-critically-injured-after-being-found-shot-in-the-head-in-granny-flat-in-french-street-at-maroubra-in-sydney/story-e6frfkvr-1226172282627#ixzz1cHZp37Gt

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Post  true lilly Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:22 pm

In eight minutes,
Alan Joyce grounded a fleet
and ignited a battle

by:Steve Creedy
and Matthew Franklin

From:The Australian
October 31, 2011
12:00AM

BY the time
Alan Joyce started his press conference
at 5pm on Saturday in Sydney,
the great Qantas grounding had begun.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/in-eight-minutes-alan-joyce-grounded-a-fleet-and-ignited-a-battle/story-e6frg95x-1226180984860
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Post  true lilly Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:12 pm

Gee, NOT surprising that "tintin" and his team,
DON'T dare DECODE THESE NUMBERS, but stay
STUCK in OLD MOVIE Scripts...


Julia Gillard's Qantas move
didn't follow the script


Flying? Call 13 13 13 975501-qantas-by-the-numbers

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/news/julia-gillards-qantas-move-didnt-follow-the-script/story-fn32891l-1226182021708

Gillard's Qantas move didn't follow the script
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TRANSCRIPT shows PM's office was told
they had "options available" to avoid grounding.


Fair Work Australia terminates industrial action
Take a look back at the history of Qantas
Qantas blames stressed crew for grounding

JULIA Gillard's office and three senior ministers were told by
Qantas management they had "options available" to avoid the fleet
grounding and that CEO Alan Joyce was ready to talk to the PM.

A script for the phone calls confirms revelations in The Daily Telegraph
that the government was told it had the opportunity to act but it would
need to deliver certainty.


It was also stressed that Mr Joyce was available to speak to Ms Gillard,
although she never called him until after the revelations yesterday
morning.


Qantas government relations executive Olivia Wirth
confirmed she spoke according to the script when she called the Prime
Minister's chief of staff at 2.05pm on the day of the grounding.


The script was also used by Mr Joyce in calls with Transport Minister
Anthony Albanese at 2pm, followed by Tourism Minister Martin Ferguson
and Workplace Relations Minister Chris Evans.


Travellers return to the skies as PM slams Qantas

All were told: "We recognise the government has a range of options
available
to you, however we need to make it clear that we will not, and
cannot put planes back in the air until these issues are resolved and
we have certainty."


This was considered an unmissable suggestion to the PM and ministers that
they should ban further action. Ms Wirth confirmed to The Daily Telegraph last night
that was "the way you get certainty. No more action".


The PM's chief of staff was also told to let Ms Gillard know:
"Alan is available to discuss further details.
Alan's here if you want to chat to him."


But Ms Gillard did not take this as a request to call Mr Joyce, nor did she
have the government declare the strike action illegal, which has
stunned many inside Qantas.


Her spokesman yesterday denied the government was given the option
to avoid the mass grounding.


"The government was presented with the grounding of the planes as a fait accompli," he said.


But Ms Wirth confirmed that the script had been used in all phone calls.


Instead the PM referred the matter to the industrial court Fair Work Australia.
By the time the full bench made the same order tens of thousands of
passengers had already been left stranded or otherwise disrupted.


In a fiery question time yesterday the Opposition hammered Ms Gillard and her ministers
on their handling of the issue.


Opposition Leader Tony Abbott wanted to know what the government had done in the
three hours between 2pm and 5pm Saturday when the grounding took effect.


His deputy Julie Bishop wanted to know why the prime minister had not
spoken personally to Mr Joyce in a bid to circumvent the grounding.


Backbenchers lined up to ask ministers how the government's decision to refer the
dispute to Fair Work Australia was good for the nation, the economy, the
tourism sector and the travelling public.

Ms Gillard defended the government's decision not to take matters into its own hands.

She accused the opposition of "peddling a falsehood" by claiming the
government merely had to sign a piece of paper to end
industrial action
because it was in the nation's interest.


"Peddling of that falsehood should stop here and it should stop now,"
she said.

___________________________________________________________

The more they talk, the more they seem to be saying that
"THE GROUNDING" was NOT about "preventing" a "workers" "STRIKE",
but a TERRORIST STRIKE...well, it is the only thing that actually makes sense,
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.
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Post  true lilly Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:29 pm

Like I was saying...
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED:


Qantas pilots hopeful of a solution
QANTAS pilots say they are
"pretty confident" an agreement will be reached with the airline. Read more


Qantas needs to be smarter - Shorten
QANTAS'S actions are
unlikely to have started a "new wave of radical employer militancy",
Federal Assistant Treasurer Bill Shorten says. Read more


So, it wasn't "employer militancy", and the pilots are still TALKING of reaching an agreement...remember, they were STILL FLYING WHEN THEY WERE GROUNDED...so then, WHY such an EXPENSIVE and RADICAL ACTION...DURING Industrial TALKS??? Suspect Wink

true lilly wrote:Gee, NOT surprising that "tintin" and his team,
DON'T dare DECODE THESE NUMBERS, but stay
STUCK in OLD MOVIE Scripts...


Julia Gillard's Qantas move
didn't follow the script


Flying? Call 13 13 13 975501-qantas-by-the-numbers

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/news/julia-gillards-qantas-move-didnt-follow-the-script/story-fn32891l-1226182021708

Gillard's Qantas move didn't follow the script
Flying? Call 13 13 13 972176-julia-gillard-alan-joyce
TRANSCRIPT shows PM's office was told
they had "options available" to avoid grounding.


Fair Work Australia terminates industrial action
Take a look back at the history of Qantas
Qantas blames stressed crew for grounding

JULIA Gillard's office and three senior ministers were told by
Qantas management they had "options available" to avoid the fleet
grounding and that CEO Alan Joyce was ready to talk to the PM.

A script for the phone calls confirms revelations in The Daily Telegraph
that the government was told it had the opportunity to act but it would
need to deliver certainty.


It was also stressed that Mr Joyce was available to speak to Ms Gillard,
although she never called him until after the revelations yesterday
morning.


Qantas government relations executive Olivia Wirth
confirmed she spoke according to the script when she called the Prime
Minister's chief of staff at 2.05pm on the day of the grounding.


The script was also used by Mr Joyce in calls with Transport Minister
Anthony Albanese at 2pm, followed by Tourism Minister Martin Ferguson
and Workplace Relations Minister Chris Evans.


Travellers return to the skies as PM slams Qantas

All were told: "We recognise the government has a range of options
available
to you, however we need to make it clear that we will not, and
cannot put planes back in the air until these issues are resolved and
we have certainty."


This was considered an unmissable suggestion to the PM and ministers that
they should ban further action. Ms Wirth confirmed to The Daily Telegraph last night
that was "the way you get certainty. No more action".


The PM's chief of staff was also told to let Ms Gillard know:
"Alan is available to discuss further details.
Alan's here if you want to chat to him."


But Ms Gillard did not take this as a request to call Mr Joyce, nor did she
have the government declare the strike action illegal, which has
stunned many inside Qantas.


Her spokesman yesterday denied the government was given the option
to avoid the mass grounding.


"The government was presented with the grounding of the planes as a fait accompli," he said.


But Ms Wirth confirmed that the script had been used in all phone calls.


Instead the PM referred the matter to the industrial court Fair Work Australia.
By the time the full bench made the same order tens of thousands of
passengers had already been left stranded or otherwise disrupted.


In a fiery question time yesterday the Opposition hammered Ms Gillard and her ministers
on their handling of the issue.


Opposition Leader Tony Abbott wanted to know what the government had done in the
three hours between 2pm and 5pm Saturday when the grounding took effect.


His deputy Julie Bishop wanted to know why the prime minister had not
spoken personally to Mr Joyce in a bid to circumvent the grounding.


Backbenchers lined up to ask ministers how the government's decision to refer the
dispute to Fair Work Australia was good for the nation, the economy, the
tourism sector and the travelling public.

Ms Gillard defended the government's decision not to take matters into its own hands.

She accused the opposition of "peddling a falsehood" by claiming the
government merely had to sign a piece of paper to end
industrial action
because it was in the nation's interest.


"Peddling of that falsehood should stop here and it should stop now,"
she said.

___________________________________________________________

The more they talk, the more they seem to be saying that
"THE GROUNDING" was NOT about "preventing" a "workers" "STRIKE",
but a TERRORIST STRIKE...well, it is the only thing that actually makes sense,
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.
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Post  true lilly Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:32 am

...funny though...like my attackers,
the more they talk, the more they reveal of what the words are meant to hide...
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Post  Billy Ruben Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:55 am

true lilly wrote:...funny though...like my attackers,
the more they talk, the more they reveal of what the words are meant to hide...

Lilly,you do realise this is a schizophrenic moment,the last 20 post have been made by you.

I used to fly on this,from Rose-bay to Lord Howe Island,I was on the very last Ansett service,in and out of there.Loved it.


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Post  true lilly Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:15 am

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Sabotage linked to grounding
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Neil Wilson
QANTAS has confirmed it called the Federal Police
to investigate what could be potential sabotage
of one of its aircraft.

Sabotage linked to grounding of fleet

by:Neil Wilson
From:Herald Sun
November 03, 2011
12:00AM

50,366)]http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/10/30/1226180/954848-qantas.jpg[/img]

Qantas has said the potential sabotage of an aircraft was one of
the reasons it used to justify grounding the fleet last weekend.
Picture: Liam Kidston
The Courier-Mail

QANTAS has confirmed it called the Federal Police to investigate
potential sabotage of an aircraft, which is also one of the reasons it
used to justify grounding the airline at the weekend.


The airline contacted police last week after engineers in Brisbane
noticed wiring for the inflight entertainment system on a Boeing 767
had been cut.

Last Saturday Qantas made confidential submissions to
Fair Work Australia and the Civil Aviation and Safety Authority
on why it needed to ground its fleet.

Sources said Qantas safety chief Susan D'Ath-Weston listed fatigue
and distraction among flight crews -
and the concern of intentional damage by engineers or ground staff.

A Qantas spokesman said police were contacted in Brisbane
after the incident was detected last Wednesday, but it did not
involve a safety risk.

Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association secretary Steve Purvinas
said the damage was concerning but added:
"If they (Qantas management) were so worried, why did they allow our members
to keep working on aircraft for the entire weekend - including the plane to carry
the Prime Minister?"

...nearly as much sabotage as I get through the NET...so I won't bother
doing a re-re-format...here's the link:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/sabotage-linked-to-grounding-of-fleet/story-fn7x8me2-1226183969745
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Post  true lilly Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:17 am

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Qantas has said the potential
sabotage of an aircraft was one of the reasons it used to justify
grounding the fleet last wee
kend.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/sabotage-linked-to-grounding-of-fleet/story-fn7x8me2-1226183969745
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