Re: TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM

[Billy Ruben]

Ok,
Lilly,
You've made a thread complaining and stating as fact,that Tintin uses coded death threats on the David Icke Forum.

BUT

you're using codes here on Sodlike Forum,how do we know as readers,that you are'nt doing the same,if not,started them.The way you rave and rant about God,and the way you curse and slander those trying to wake you up,like calling people "Baby-Fuckers"...do you see,now,that you hate God,by sending aspiring devotees to the opposites side-show of crack-cocaine and inter-racial sex couplings....so unappealing that your mind is,as touched by God???

Do you not see,that you act as a reverse shill,positive or "PRO" NWO or Illuminati.They,by comparison,have so much to offer,than induced depression from your gin soaked rants...

You bad china...madam.

[Billy Ruben]

In defence of you Lilly,people DO use codes on websites,but only found this on dating websites so far.My taste are a little exotic,sooooo,I've been checking out the Sugar Mummies and STD Positive sites...and here's what they had to say...

http://sugar-daddy.info/2011/07/10/personal-ads-decoded-what-they-are-really-saying/
Personal Ads Decoded – What They Are ‘Really’ Saying
The following is an excerpt from Alternative-Dating-Sites.com:

While browsing one of our favorite online dating review sites, 101Date.com, we came across their ‘Personal Ad Decoder for Men and Women’ article.

Needless to say, we were quite entertained, and honestly, they were right on the money with some of their ‘definitions’.

Here are some of our favorites:

Men’s Personal Ad Decoder:

- Man’s man: Hair growing everywhere even where seemingly impossible
- Loves strong coffee: Usually hung over
- Romantic: Has Viagra prescription
- Active: Gets up to get his own damn beer
- Considerate: Leaves seat up and is a bad aim
- And our favorite: Loves family: Will probably hit on your sister

To find out what women really mean, visit this page on Alternative-Dating-Sites.com.

Men's Personal Ad Decoder:
•Man’s man: Hair growing everywhere even where seemingly impossible
•Loves strong coffee: Usually hung over
•Romantic: Has Viagra prescription
•Active: Gets up to get his own damn beer
•Considerate: Leaves seat up and is a bad aim
•And our favorite: Loves family: Will probably hit on your sister


Women's Personal Ad Decoder:
•Adventurous: Slept with everyone
•Open-minded: Desperate
•Wants soul mate: Stalker
•Friendship first: Former Slut
•Athletic: No breasts
•And our favorite: New-Age: Body hair in the wrong places
Women’s English Decoder:•I am sorry: You’ll be sorry
•I am not upset: Of course, I am upset, you moron!
•Maybe: No
•And our favorite: Do what you want: You will pay for this later
Men’s English Decoder:•I am hungry: I am hungry
•May I have this dance?: I’d like to have sex with you
•I don’t think your shoes go with that outfit: I’m gay
•And our favorite: I am bored: Do you want to have sex?

[MoMo]

I thought this was a POST/After Conspiracy Forum.........for the more balanced members of the Cyber community..............lillywilly, ...............everybody/everything is interconnected/interdependant. Even my cat disagrees with you.





There, I just made all your connexions.

[true lilly]

Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.



Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:
  News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  12:00AM
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage

• Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube Perth Now, 2 hours ago
  
• Lady Gaga in YouTube copyright spat Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
  
• Woman charged over State of Origin pee Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2011
  
• Officer who sprayed boy to be charged Herald Sun, 22 Jun 2011
  
• Horrific footage of Iranian jet crash Adelaide Now, 6 Jun 2011
  

"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

[true lilly]

Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS to 'make' his 'connections'...

Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
MADE HISTORY BY WINNING IT.

Celebrate Cadel
Celebrate Cadel’s Tour de France triumph
with official memorabilia.
To order, click here or call 1300 306 107
Shopping cart powered by
Gate13


Cadel Evans - Champs Elysees Lithograph
AUD 295.00


Cadel Evans Signed Lithograph
AUD 595.00


Cadel Evans - Alpine Lithograph
AUD 295.00


Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...

Soaring dollar hits record high

Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.


Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.



Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:
  News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  12:00AM
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage

• Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube Perth Now, 2 hours ago
  
• Lady Gaga in YouTube copyright spat Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
  
• Woman charged over State of Origin pee Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2011
  
• Officer who sprayed boy to be charged Herald Sun, 22 Jun 2011
  
• Horrific footage of Iranian jet crash Adelaide Now, 6 Jun 2011
  

"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.

[true lilly]

yeah, so, you think the 'dumb bunnies' reading this News HERE,
will foil 'your' plots...
...those who matter, who can and do, foil 'your' plots,
know much more than I could ever find in The News...
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html

...yeah, I was only allowed to post the link,
as it seems seeing what it contains, will 'turn',
the 'dumb bunnies' away from THEIR ENEMIES,
USING THEM TO BETRAY THEIR OWN.

...lets try again though shall we...

...nope...GO TO THE LINK!

Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS to 'make' his 'connections'...

Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
MADE HISTORY BY WINNING IT.

Celebrate Cadel
Celebrate Cadel’s Tour de France triumph
with official memorabilia.
To order, click here or call 1300 306 107
Shopping cart powered by
Gate13


Cadel Evans - Champs Elysees Lithograph
AUD 295.00


Cadel Evans Signed Lithograph
AUD 595.00


Cadel Evans - Alpine Lithograph
AUD 295.00


Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...

Soaring dollar hits record high

Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.


Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.



Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:
  News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  12:00AM
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

17-10-2007, 06:51 PM #30

Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa You know TASMANIA was just one location in OZ where there were plans to set up The Jewish Homeland...and then there's also the BOXING KANGAROO and TASMANIAN DEVIL in Buggy Bunny, oh and that LITTLE PENGUIN that was always lost, another OZZIE Native. Yep TAZZIE, a fascinating place, and just so we don't forget it, the ABC is reminding us, again, tomorrow night, with..... Tasmanian Devil: The Fast And Furious Life Of Errol Flynn 8:30pm Thursday, 18 Oct 2007 Documentary Featuring never before seen archival footage, photographs and interviews with famous contemporary Christopher Lee (Lord of the Rings), legendary Hollywood writer/director Vincent Sherman, and two of Errol Flynn's daughters - all of whom speak candidly about his revolutionary sympathies and journalistic ambitions as well as his decadent lifestyle - this is Errol Flynn as we've never seen him before. Born in Tasmania, Errol Flynn was the romantic star of dozens of Hollywood action movies. But from his troubled childhood in Hobart, to his escape from Australia after stealing the diamonds of his society lover, then his death at the age of fifty in the arms of his teenage mistress, his real life was far more adventurous than any of his films. Notorious for his love affairs, scandals and rebellious nature, Flynn was also an aspiring journalist and served as war correspondent at several armed conflicts worldwide. He even scooped the first interview with Fidel Castro after the Cuban revolution. His journalism and his fleeting Academy Award nomination for his performance in The Sun Also Rises were his greatest personal achievements. When Flynn died of massive heart failure after many years of alcohol and drug abuse he was completely broke. The high life and maintenance payments to his three ex-wives had squandered his Hollywood fortune, and he had been forced to sell even his beloved yacht and Mulholland Farm. Always determined to get the most out of life no matter the cost, Flynn stated in one of his last interviews, "I've had a hell of a lot of fun and I wouldn't change any of it, not for a minute." Tasmanian Devil follows Flynn's life every step of the way as he traversed great highs and terrible lows, interviewing his friends, studio colleagues and children for the first comprehensive picture of this notorious star.

Errol flynn died 14 October.
That's one day after TEMPLARS day.

SIMON TEMPLAR aka ROGER MOORE was
born that date.

Now checked Errol Flynn on Wiki and saw that
Errol Flynn played a part in the AVIATOR.
The movie about Howard Hughes.



Now look how many links there are to MADELEINE Mccann.
The movie the AVIATIOR.

LEONARDO DIcaprio.

He was named LEONARDO because he started kicking,
when his mother was pregnant, in front of
a LEONARDO DA VINCI painting.

All rubbish of course but it sounds great.
LEONARDO and LEONARDO DA VINCI.

In the MADELEINE McCann thread you can read about the
enormous importance of LEONARDO DA VINCI.
The BLOODLINE of JESUS and MARIA MAGDALENA.

Madeleine McCann was 1452 days old when she dissapeared.
Da Vinci was born 1452.

But back to the AVIATOR.



CATE blanchett played Katherine Hepburn.
the mother of Madeleine is KATE.
So a CATE and a KATE.



And another KAT. Katherine hepburn

KAT HEPBURN, born the
same date as
MADELEINE McCann.

Cate blanchett born 14 may. Two days after Maddie.
CATE, KAT, And KATE.
The three CATS of Anne Frank. MMM
(See the Maddie thread)

HOWARD HUGHES, the AVIATOR.
Was married to Jean PETERS

Jean Peters died
13 October Templars day.

Errol flynn was played by Jude Law in the movie.
But we have seen the ERROL FLYNN/TEMPLAR connection.

SIMON TEMPLAR, ROGER MOORE.

ROGER MOORE is IVANHOE.

loads of links from TEMPLAR James Bond, to Maddie Mccann

And you have seen the link from CATE Blanchett to Madeleine.
So where does CATE come from?

CATE Blanchett from
IVANHOE, Australia.

The wIVENHOE DAM=QUEENSLAND FLOODS...

Beautiful one day, broke the next


Paul Syvret
QUEENSLAND'S rapidly growing
debt bill since the floods
has created a chink in Australia's armour
of stellar credit ratings.

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.

[true lilly]

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.

Could Google have caught the Norway killer?


Asher Moses
July 28, 2011


Click to play video

'More openness' will prevent attacks

Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that

Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.

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With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?


Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.


Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"



Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches


Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.


He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.


Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.



The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.

"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.


Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.


Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.


Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.


However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.


Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."


Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.


Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".


"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.


"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."


In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.


And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.


"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.


"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."


Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.


And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.


"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.


Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.


Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".


But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.


Google Australia declined to comment.


This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh

sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...

[true lilly]

"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...

26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807

I noticed two articles in the News today...

Morocco military plane crash kills 78

And...

Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally

I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...

Quote:

It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.

I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania

The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin

Quote:

A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft. Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more modern.

I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.

28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT

132
Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea


Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down

Related Stories

• S Korea hit by fatal landslides
  
• Country profile: South Korea
  

Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.

The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.

It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.

A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.

After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.

Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.

Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.

The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.



A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol

A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.

The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin

714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS

[true lilly]

Re: Thin Out Their Numbers (Re-Interpretting TNBTN)

Today at 6:00 am
Lilly...

not in the mood today...

flippin' heck OFF OUT OF MY THREAD,UNLESS,YOU'RE TRYING TO BE FUNNY...

...oh no, I am DEADLY SERIOUS...you titled this thread,
I AM ON TOPIC, unlike 'you' MOB who have SPAMMED MY THREADS
with ENDLESS, OFF TOPIC, FILTH.

...and if these details upset you so much...

The LYING Conspiracy INDUSTRY'S SECRET
vera susa/true lilly
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338
Well, here it is folks,
The GOOD NEWS Behind, "The NEWS Behind The NEWS".

And first up: PLEASE, add, counter, challenge away,
but NOT with Worldly/CATHOLIC FUNDED/COMMISSIONED
Lies, Myths and Fantasy, presented as if 'fact'...unless you want
a verbal slashing !

The WHOLE Conspiracy INDUSTRY is FULL of that INSANITY.
Please LET THIS THREAD BE WHAT IT IS or ADMIT YOU WORK
to "PROTECT" TPTB from The ONLY Truth "They" FEAR.

The intent of this thread is:
To SHOW how OLD and TIGHT
the HOODWINKS placed on us by
those DEATH WORSHIPING LIE LOVERS
actually are, AND HOW to REMOVE them,
FOR FREE!

Yep, no middle man or 'guru' to PAY to follow
(to your Eternal DEATH), no man or woman
to grovel and suck down to, just tools and skills
for recognizing and countering THE KILLER LIE.

So I'll begin with my introduction posts
to 'that thread' that TWISTED FREEING TRUTH
into MOCKING DEATH THREATS...
so folk can also SEE the DIFFERENT SPIRITS SOURCE
behind different posters...
to HEAR the voice of HARD LOVE and DOING JUSTICE,
and recognize
the SMOOTH WORDS of THE FATHER of The LIE.

"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...

26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807

I noticed two articles in the News today...

Morocco military plane crash kills 78

And...

Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally

I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...

Quote:

It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.

I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania

The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin

Quote:

A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft. Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more modern.

I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.

28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT

132
Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea


Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down

Related Stories

• S Korea hit by fatal landslides
  
• Country profile: South Korea
  

Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.

The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.

It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.

A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.

After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.

Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.

Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.

The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.



A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol

A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.

The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin

714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS

...you would shit yourself to death, over all that
I have not posted over the years...

[MoMo]

[MoMo]

Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything.

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%

Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest.


lillywilly......

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains?

try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured.



Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly.

lilly, are you capable of understanding the term: RUNT CONTINENT as it pertains to Australia? It means its the SMALLEST Continent..........

Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.

Lilly, your post is proof that you have eyes yet you are blind and do not see. Had you bothered to read and comprehend my Post you would 'see that it is a Public Revelation, not private like your bullshit.


Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure.

[size=24]#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake.


What support is there for the claim that God spoke to all the Jewish people at the foot of Mount Sinai?

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/start-of-judaism/

The Torah claims that the entire Jewish nation heard God speak at Sinai, an assertion that has been accepted as part of their nation’s history for over 3,000 years................Two types of stories are part of any national heritage.

The first kind is legends. Included in this category is George Washington’s admission to chopping down the cherry tree, along with his statement, “I cannot tell a lie.” Johnny Appleseed planting apple trees across America with his discarded apple cores is another legend
..........................................What is the difference between legend and history?

A legend is an unverified story. By their very nature legends are unverifiable because they have very few eyewitnesses. Perhaps little George did chop down the cherry tree. We can’t know if it happened. This does not mean that the legend is necessarily false, only that it is unverifiable. No one thinks legends are facts, therefore they are not accepted as reliable history.

History, however, is comprised of events we know actually happened. It is reliable because we can determine if the claimed event is true or false through a number of ways. One key to verification is the assertion that large numbers of eyewitnesses observed the specific event
.....................................SINAI: AN IMPOSSIBLE HOAX

So far we have seen two types of claims—one is unverifiable and the other is inherently false.

Could the revelation at Sinai have been a brilliant hoax, duping millions of people into believing that God spoke to them?....................SINAI: THE ONLY CLAIM OF NATIONAL REVELATION

Throughout history, tens of thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that God spoke to him or her. All religions that base themselves on some type of revelation share essentially the same beginning: a holy person goes into solitude, comes back to his people, and announces that he has experienced a personal revelation where God appointed him to be His prophet.

Would you believe someone who claims to have received a personal communication from God appointing him or her as God’s new prophet?

Maybe He did. Then again, maybe He didn’t. One can never know. The claim is inherently unverifiable.

Personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion since one can never know if it is indeed true. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy................................There are 15,000 known religions in all of recorded history. Given this inherent weakness, why do all of them base their claim on personal revelation? If someone wanted their religion to be accepted, why wouldn’t they present the strongest, most believable claim possible—i.e. national revelation! It’s far more credible. No one has to take a leap of faith and blindly trust just one person’s word. It is qualitatively better to claim that God came to everyone, telling the entire group that so-and-so is His prophet.

Why would God establish His entire relationship with a nation through one man, without any possibility of verification, and still expect this nation to obediently follow an entire system of instructions, based only on blind faith?

Yet, Judaism is the only religion in the annals of history that makes the best of all claims—that everyone heard God speak. No other religion claims the experience of national revelation. Why?
..................Let’s summarize two primary questions:

1. Out of 15,000 known religions in recorded history, why is Judaism the only one that claims national revelation, the best of all claims? Why do all other religions base themselves on the inherently weak assertion of personal revelation?

2. If Judaism’s claim is indeed an example of a successful hoax that falsely asserts national revelation, the author just got away with passing off the best possible claim, and others will certainly follow suit. Why then would he predict that no one else will ever make a similar claim, a prediction he knows he cannot foresee, and whose outcome is likely to be the exact opposite?

There is one simple answer to both questions. A national revelation—as opposed to personal revelation—is the one lie you cannot get away with. It is one event you cannot fabricate. The only way to make this claim is if it actually happened.

If the claim is true, the people will believe it because they are agreeing to something they already know. Either they personally witnessed it, or their ancestors collectively passed down the account as part of their nation’s accepted history.

If the claim is false, it’s like trying to convince you that God spoke to you or your parents and somehow you never heard of it. No one would ever accept such a claim.

Therefore no other religion has ever made the best of all claims, because it is the one claim that can only be made if it is true. One cannot pass national revelation off as a hoax.

When inventing a religion, the originator must resort to personal revelation, despite its inherent weakness, since it is a claim that is unverifiable. The originator can hope to find adherents willing to take a leap of faith and accept his or her religion. After all, no one can ever know it is a lie. [Of course, no one can know if it’s true either.] This simply cannot work with national revelation since it’s the one claim that everyone will know is a lie.

Only Judaism can claim national revelation since the Jewish people is the only nation in the history of mankind who ever experienced it.




Bullshit can't handle pressure.it is like a bluff in a Poker Game............if I am holding an excellent hand I'll see all your bets/raises and then 'call you'.

When you produce your shit hand and I lay down my Royal Flush I'll collect the Ducats. nuthin' personal.

There are many other quality Control features in the Bible, but the National Revelation, and Yahshuas/Jesus ministry was Public are significant factors.







Cheers Matey.



http://www.scottberkun.com/essays/53-how-to-detect-bullshit/




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY[/quote]

why don't you explain how the following is 'Elitist' you antisemitic NAZI bitch.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.


The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY

[true lilly]

'they' really do lack in creativity, when it comes to
inventing non-existent links to those 'they' ARE
PLOTTING AGAINST.

And insult the minds of EVERY reader.

So very soon after "dixie d's" posted links to
"CLEMENTINE" this fool tries to 'cover' one
poor excuse to post a CODED PLOT/THREAT,
with an even worse 'explanation' of 'reasoning'.

So poor, I thought maybe WIKIPEDIA had changed
facts with lies, AGAIN, but no.

And so, here it is; another VERY ANGRY,
VERY DIRECTLY THREATENING (to those
NOT DECEIVED by the 'smooth' words),post by:

28-07-2011, 09:33 PM #29850




Quote:

Originally Posted by ninny i thought to add this here, because this is pretty bizarre http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011...d-and-defaced/

Swagger's been on my mind recently because of this person.

cher lloyd.jpg

Cher Lloyd, was a hit with last year’s x factor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Lloyd

She got through the second round
though with a song that she apparently penned the lyrics to part of it. I
suspect she was coached in this because of the reference to Jerusalem
but can’t be fully sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jooLnnhTrbE
Her first single, or a song from her
new album called swagger jagger, the chorus follows the tune of the
Australian song ‘Oh my darling clementine’, a song related to the gold
rush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Darling,_Clementine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbyG2MrBHk&ob=av2e

May have something to do with the economy.

Maybe related to: the FACT Ballarat alone, produced more gold
than California, and that Australia's Foreign ENEMIES are so
BITTERLY JEALOUS of The Glorious Land Spiritual Israel Is Blessed With,
that 'they' slave to bring us the evils of 'their' insane WAR AGAINST GOD.


I'd say it also has A LOT to do with these posts that caused
"Billy Ruben & el kabong" to SPAM ALL MY THREADS with LIES &
WAY OFF TOPIC CATS & CRAP in a futile effort to make those
who matter, 'forget' THE NEWS that NONE of 'them' DARE to
cover in "TODAY'S NEWS" at DIF...

yeah, so, you think the 'dumb bunnies' reading this News HERE,
will foil 'your' plots...
...those who matter, who can and do, foil 'your' plots,
know much more than I could ever find in The News...
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html

...yeah, I was only allowed to post the link,
as it seems seeing what it contains, will 'turn',
the 'dumb bunnies' away from THEIR ENEMIES,
USING THEM TO BETRAY THEIR OWN.

...lets try again though shall we...

...nope...GO TO THE LINK!

Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS to 'make' his 'connections'...

Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
MADE HISTORY BY WINNING IT.

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Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...

Soaring dollar hits record high

Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.


Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.



Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:
  News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  12:00AM
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

17-10-2007, 06:51 PM #30

Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa You know TASMANIA was just one location in OZ where there were plans to set up The Jewish Homeland...and then there's also the BOXING KANGAROO and TASMANIAN DEVIL in Buggy Bunny, oh and that LITTLE PENGUIN that was always lost, another OZZIE Native. Yep TAZZIE, a fascinating place, and just so we don't forget it, the ABC is reminding us, again, tomorrow night, with..... Tasmanian Devil: The Fast And Furious Life Of Errol Flynn 8:30pm Thursday, 18 Oct 2007 Documentary Featuring never before seen archival footage, photographs and interviews with famous contemporary Christopher Lee (Lord of the Rings), legendary Hollywood writer/director Vincent Sherman, and two of Errol Flynn's daughters - all of whom speak candidly about his revolutionary sympathies and journalistic ambitions as well as his decadent lifestyle - this is Errol Flynn as we've never seen him before. Born in Tasmania, Errol Flynn was the romantic star of dozens of Hollywood action movies. But from his troubled childhood in Hobart, to his escape from Australia after stealing the diamonds of his society lover, then his death at the age of fifty in the arms of his teenage mistress, his real life was far more adventurous than any of his films. Notorious for his love affairs, scandals and rebellious nature, Flynn was also an aspiring journalist and served as war correspondent at several armed conflicts worldwide. He even scooped the first interview with Fidel Castro after the Cuban revolution. His journalism and his fleeting Academy Award nomination for his performance in The Sun Also Rises were his greatest personal achievements. When Flynn died of massive heart failure after many years of alcohol and drug abuse he was completely broke. The high life and maintenance payments to his three ex-wives had squandered his Hollywood fortune, and he had been forced to sell even his beloved yacht and Mulholland Farm. Always determined to get the most out of life no matter the cost, Flynn stated in one of his last interviews, "I've had a hell of a lot of fun and I wouldn't change any of it, not for a minute." Tasmanian Devil follows Flynn's life every step of the way as he traversed great highs and terrible lows, interviewing his friends, studio colleagues and children for the first comprehensive picture of this notorious star.

Errol flynn died 14 October.
That's one day after TEMPLARS day.

SIMON TEMPLAR aka ROGER MOORE was
born that date.

Now checked Errol Flynn on Wiki and saw that
Errol Flynn played a part in the AVIATOR.
The movie about Howard Hughes.



Now look how many links there are to MADELEINE Mccann.
The movie the AVIATIOR.

LEONARDO DIcaprio.

He was named LEONARDO because he started kicking,
when his mother was pregnant, in front of
a LEONARDO DA VINCI painting.

All rubbish of course but it sounds great.
LEONARDO and LEONARDO DA VINCI.

In the MADELEINE McCann thread you can read about the
enormous importance of LEONARDO DA VINCI.
The BLOODLINE of JESUS and MARIA MAGDALENA.

Madeleine McCann was 1452 days old when she dissapeared.
Da Vinci was born 1452.

But back to the AVIATOR.



CATE blanchett played Katherine Hepburn.
the mother of Madeleine is KATE.
So a CATE and a KATE.



And another KAT. Katherine hepburn

KAT HEPBURN, born the
same date as
MADELEINE McCann.

Cate blanchett born 14 may. Two days after Maddie.
CATE, KAT, And KATE.
The three CATS of Anne Frank. MMM
(See the Maddie thread)

HOWARD HUGHES, the AVIATOR.
Was married to Jean PETERS

Jean Peters died
13 October Templars day.

Errol flynn was played by Jude Law in the movie.
But we have seen the ERROL FLYNN/TEMPLAR connection.

SIMON TEMPLAR, ROGER MOORE.

ROGER MOORE is IVANHOE.

loads of links from TEMPLAR James Bond, to Maddie Mccann

And you have seen the link from CATE Blanchett to Madeleine.
So where does CATE come from?

CATE Blanchett from
IVANHOE, Australia.

The wIVENHOE DAM=QUEENSLAND FLOODS...

Beautiful one day, broke the next


Paul Syvret
QUEENSLAND'S rapidly growing
debt bill since the floods
has created a chink in Australia's armour
of stellar credit ratings.

28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



crosshairs

...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.

Could Google have caught the Norway killer?

Asher Moses
July 28, 2011


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'More openness' will prevent attacks

Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that

Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.

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With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?

Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.

Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"


Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches

Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.

He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.

Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.



The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.

"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.

Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.

Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.

Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.

However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.

Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."

Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.

Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".

"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.

"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."

In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.

And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.

"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.

"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."

Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.

And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.

"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.

Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.

Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".

But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.

Google Australia declined to comment.

This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh

sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...

"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...

26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807

I noticed two articles in the News today...

Morocco military plane crash kills 78

And...

Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally

I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...

Quote:

It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.

I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania

The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin

Quote:

A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft. Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more modern.

I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.

28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT

132
Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea


Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down

Related Stories

• S Korea hit by fatal landslides
  
• Country profile: South Korea
  

Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.

The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.

It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.

A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.

After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.

Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.

Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.

The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.



A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol

A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.

The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin

714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS

[true lilly]

Oh, and here's a classic bit of evidence that
I CAN'T POST CODE...FULLY EXPLORE the LINKS...

28-07-2011, 09:13 PM #29849

I notice this article in the News...

MEOW-MEOW USE ON PAR WITH COCAINE

I'd say there is a link to Internet Forum



Meow Meow

I'll look into it.Last edited by dixie d; 28-07-2011 at 09:51 PM.

...yet it IS 'YOU' ilk such as "Billy Ruben" & "tintin" who
PUBLICLY BOAST of HAVING AND USING THE POWER
TO DELETE and EDIT EVERYONE'S POSTS...all over,
COUNTLESS Forums.

While I'm lucky when I can even access an old, out-dated,
working p.c. or old, out-dated phone, to post with at all...
when I'm not recovering from the thefts, bashing's and
bombings of the LOCAL 'partners' of "tintin/Aarnout", 'Marija', and
such as those who TRASHED and STOLE my old p.c. and phone,
before "tintin" HAD TO resort to banning me from D.I.F. BECAUSE
I KEPT SHOWING THE PROOF of 'their' LIES and CODED PLOTS.

And remember, 'they' DON'T LINK to "News" and "Quotes",
so that people CAN'T CHECK WHAT 'they' TWIST TO 'excuse'
THE CODE of the UN-'connected' 'connections' "tintin", "cori"
et al INVENT.

I DO.

Such as linking to "cori's" CACKLING over MY DAUGHTER
being TARGETED with a CAR BOMB, and OPENLY, PUBLICLY,
CALLING FOR MY DEATH, when asking admin. to STOP "cori"
COMMITTING SUCH A SERIOUS CRIME.

And it all brings us back to,
"THE GOD THING".

The Only Power, and Source of Knowing, Understanding,
and Countless Blessings, to have NEVER LET ME DOWN.

It is in fact, FOR THE PURPOSE OF BLINDING THE WORLD
to The, 'IN YOUR FACE', FACTS of THE TRUTH of GOD'S WORD,
(CONSTANTLY BEING REVEALED in This AGE), that The World Wide
WEB of LIES (that also TRACKS THE HONESTLY JUST), was PUT
IN EVEN THE POOREST of Homes, All Around The World.

GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING, and
SCIENCE KEEPS DISCOVERING IT AGREES...

WATER COVERED GLOBE.

ONE LAND MASS ROSE.

LIFE FORMED WITHOUT OXYGEN.

OXYGEN FORMED, DEATH ENTERED.

BORN DYING PEOPLE and ANIMALS SCATTERED,
MIXED, MINGLED and CHANGED, OVER ALL that
ONE LAND MASS.

THEN that ONE LAND MASS STARTED to DIVIDE.

OLD LANDS SUNK.

NEW LANDS FORMED.

And ONE, RICH, STABLE LAND MASS WAS PRESERVED
(WHERE THE OLDEST of LIFE FORMS and PEOPLES,
STILL EXIT), TO WHICH PEOPLES FROM ALL THE TRIBES
and NATIONS, that ISRAEL WAS ANCIENTLY SCATTERED
AMONGST, ARE BEING RE-GATHERED.

And, more besides, but 'you' keep ignoring and denying
all those FACTS.

As do ALL who (though 'claiming to be in opposition'),
from SATANISTS, ATHEISTS, JEWS, MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS etc.,
AGREE ON, PUTTING ONE INSANE LIE, ABOVE THE SCIENCE
that SUPPORTS WHAT IS ACTUALLY DESCRIBED in GOD'S
HOLY SCRIPTURE:
The FILTHY, "out of Egypt" "time-line", LIE.

And even simple minded people can see that 'you'
CAN'T ATTACK THOSE FACTS, and so MUST SLAVE
at attacking this one little woman who cared to,
Witness, Warn and Freely Publish, THE BEST NEWS, EVER!

No one needs a middle man to FIND and RECEIVE,
THE CREATOR GOD'S, ETERNALLY SAVING, HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH.

[Billy Ruben]

I don't boast i can hack replys,and I don't know how too either.



You can do heaps of coloured letters,I can't...

[MoMo]

I don't boast i can hack replys,and I don't know how too either.



You can do heaps of coloured letters,I can't...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY

[true lilly]

HACK AWAY...
I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food...

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone.

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.


28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...
1 Chronicles - Chapter 11

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life... I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food...

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone. Rolling Eyes

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...

1 Chronicles - Chapter 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life... ...

...mind you, JACOB WAS, A BREEDER of CHAMPIONS... Wink Very Happy

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

[b]"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone.

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.


28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...
1 Chronicles - Chapter 11

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life...

[true lilly]

HACK AWAY...
I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food... Wink Very Happy

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone. Rolling Eyes

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...

1 Chronicles - Chapter 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life... ...

...mind you, JACOB WAS, A BREEDER of CHAMPIONS... Wink Very Happy

[true lilly]

HACK AWAY...
I'll see your spam, and raise it, with Good Food...

Hey True Lilly,
you
should,without spam,write up the definitive account,of what happened,in
your words,as you and Tintin,became friends,then had a fall-out
and
now,you've learnt of Tintins' international power and intrigue...all in
one story,that can be broken down into parts.Not all at once.
Yeah,just a thought....

What makes 'you' think 'you' 'should' 'tell' me, what I 'should' do?

"Bullshit, any Bullshit can't take pressure. "

...which is why the bullshitters keep snipping, threatening, attacking,
then running away and hiding, from one little woman who honestly lives
in faith of the faithfulness of The Creator of Life.

Bullshitters like you, too gutless to personally quiz me,
(a person you know to be real, and really who I've shown
myself to be), as the person you are, in this real world,
or even as a fake person over another's phone.

And the real you, does know full well, just how much pressure,
I continue to live under, while maintaining the strength to take joy
in 'the little things', of True Value.

But here's something good that came of 'tintin's' betrayal of my hospitality
and offer of friendship; he showed the world that those who aim to betray
one who offers faithful friendship, only end up betraying themselves, and
some may choose to learn from that and repent of the evils they plot, before,
it's too late.

PROVERBS 6: 1 to 5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=6&v=1&t=KJV#top

As I've explained, I offered 'tintin' a life line
with which to pull himself from the demons that
torment him in this life, and a fate worse than,
the first 'death' (into 'the big sleep'), by showing him
the real blessings (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
of those who don't deny, The Holy Spirit of Truth,
but he is still, choosing to turn it into his own noose.

As are all who still knowingly, willingly, choose to fight God.

PSALMS 78
1 Do give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline YOUR ear to the sayings of my mouth.

2 In a proverbial saying I will open my mouth;
I will cause riddles of long ago to bubble forth,

3 Which we have heard and know,
And which our own fathers have related to us;

4 Which we do not hide from their sons,
Relating [them] even to the generation to come,
The praises of Jehovah and his strength
And his wonderful things that he has done.

5 And he proceeded to raise up a reminder in Jacob,
And a law he set in Israel,
Things that he commanded our forefathers,
To make them known to their sons;

6 In order that the generation to come,
the sons that were to be born, might know [them],
That they might rise up and relate [them] to their sons,

7 And that they might set their confidence in God himself
And not forget the practices of God but observe his own commandments.

8 And they should not become like their forefathers,
A generation stubborn and rebellious,
A generation who had not prepared their heart
And whose spirit was not trustworthy with God.

...oh DO, read on; contemplate the full meanings
of each blessing word, and take it to heart:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=78&v=1&t=KJV#top

Bless God. Bless The King. Bless all seeking to be faithful,
with The Holy Spirit's power to do so.

Israel Was Mentioned In The Book Of Genesis....

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.” Genesis 32

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
1 [a]Jacob also went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
2 When Jacob saw them, he said, “This is the camp of God!” So he named that place Mahanaim.[b]

3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom.
4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau:
‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have
remained there till now.
5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants.
Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

6 When the messengers returned to Jacob, they said, “We went to your
brother Esau, and now he is coming to meet you, and four hundred men are
with him.”

7 In great fear and distress Jacob divided the
people who were with him into two groups, and the flocks and herds and
camels as well.
8 He thought, “If Esau comes and attacks one group, the group that is left may escape.”

9 Then Jacob prayed, “O God of my father Abraham, God of my father
Isaac, LORD, you who said to me, ‘Go back to your country and your
relatives, and I will make you prosper,’
10 I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant.
I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps.
11
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau, for I am afraid he
will come and attack me, and also the mothers with their children.
12
But you have said, ‘I will surely make you prosper and will make your
descendants like the sand of the sea, which cannot be counted.’”

13 He spent the night there, and from what he had with him he selected a gift for his brother Esau:
14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams,
15 thirty female camels with their young, forty cows and ten bulls, and twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys.
16 He put them in the care of his servants, each herd by itself, and
said to his servants, “Go ahead of me, and keep some space between the
herds.”

17 He instructed the one in the lead: “When my brother
Esau meets you and asks, ‘Who do you belong to, and where are you going,
and who owns all these animals in front of you?’
18 then you are to say, ‘They belong to your servant Jacob.
They are a gift sent to my lord Esau, and he is coming behind us.’”

19 He also instructed the second, the third and all the others who
followed the herds: “You are to say the same thing to Esau when you meet
him.
20 And be sure to say, ‘Your servant Jacob is coming behind
us.’” For he thought, “I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending
on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me.”
21 So Jacob’s gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female
servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
25
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket
of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the
man.
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,
because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached
to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched
near the tendon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 32&version=NIV

What Is Interesting In This,

Is That Jacob Became Lamed...

The Conquest of Jerusalem [1 Chron 11:4-9]

6 And the king and his men went to Jerusalem against the Jebusites, the inhabitants of the land, who
spoke to David, saying, "You shall not come in here; but the blind and the lame will repel you,"
thinking, "David cannot come in here."
7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion (that is,
the City of David).
8 Now David said on that day, "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the
Jebusites (the lame and the blind, who are hated by David's soul), he shall be chief and captain."
Therefore they say, "The blind and the lame shall not come into the house."

To Be Damadged In The Hip Was A Sign Of Messiahship...!!!

...mmm...what IS interesting is 'your' 'biblical' 'quote'...
somewhat, VERY different (and so, VERY confused), from
what is written and MEANT in Holy Scripture...

1 Chronicles - Chapter 11
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=11&v=1&t=KJV#top

...mmm...and interesting to, how scars from youth, become bigger with age...

The once tiny scars, from the then, revolutionary, 'Key Hole' surgery
that fixed my dislocated hips (and turned around my 5% chance of
ever walking at all, to one who could walk, and 'dance up a storm' by 6),
I noticed in the bath, just yesterday morning, are now, quite noticeable.

As is the scar on my 'wedding ring' finger, that I got at age 6, the same day
I won my first debate on what God asks of us; to discover decades later,
that it was Holy Scripture (I didn't know at the time), I had para-phrased.

...and, the scar on my 'wedding' ring finger, that only 'fitted' on the day we bought it,
and that I kept losing and finding, until losing it forever, when finally, I was
left in no doubt, that it wasn't only my husband who hated me, for loving God,
more than worldly things...a scar in the shape of an ancient letter, that in this age,
is commonly, pronounced as "J".

But no, it's not me with the Messiah DELUSION...
buried under pages of 'el kabong'/'Billy Ruben' spam,
is an actual quote...of just one of 'tintin's' MANY statements that
HE BELIEVES HIMSELF TO BE 'The christ'...but NOT, THE PERFECT,
RESURRECTED SON of The Creator of Life... ...

...mind you, JACOB WAS, A BREEDER of CHAMPIONS...

[true lilly]

An interesting new poster
has appeared on "tintin's" thread...

...right after "yass" posted...

V



...we see...

...stormrider73

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Irkutsk, Siberia
Posts: 37

...who then posted...



...who I find an awful lot like...



...interesting to, that it is on the previous page:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2986

...that "tintin" and his team, start their
blatantly obvious DEFENCE of BREIVIK
and his fellow PUPPETS and HANDLERS
(including clearly marked locals), while
also starting their blatantly obvious call
for ALL OUT WAR AGAINST GOD'S, HOLY,
ETERNAL KINGDOM.

Many clearly angry, clearly foolish (for being
so clearly direct), orders follow...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2987
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2988
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2989

...though, despite knowing nothing of:

stormrider73...

...and not even being able to access,
"all posts by" them, they do seem to,
be hinting at a warning against loyalty,
to the inherently dis-loyal "tintin" and
his team...

..."Those people certainly know each other "
Last edited by stormrider73; 31-07-2011 at 05:09 AM.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2990

[Billy Ruben]

Do you believe in Reptilians now,cool.Cause I find you a very good example for pro-Moonbeam Mind Control...

[MoMo]

lilly, do you comprehend this Data?

Sign #1: The Diaspora

The Bible prophesied the Jewish diaspora. The Nation of Israel would dwell for many years outside of their country and promised land. After this time had elapsed they would return to their ancient possession. The predictions were exact and complete making the nation's return a supernatural happening of our age. A modern miracle. They were dispersed for over 1,900 years. They are there again today.

Hosea 3:4-5 - "For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days."

Hosea 6:1 - "Come, let us return to the LORD. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds."

To see the rest of the passage fulfilled, Israel needs only to turn to God. For David to become their king once again, there will be a resurrection from the dead.

Sign #2: The Return

Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Bible passages predict the return of Israel to the land of Palestine. Here are only two.

Ezekiel 20:34 - "I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered -- with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath."

Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - "In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth."

Sign #3: Buying back the land

The prophet Jeremiah prophesied about 600 years B.C. just as the nation of Judah was being destroyed and the people taken captive into the land of Babylon. He spoke of a day when Jews would once again purchase land within the ancient territory. That is precisely what returning Jews did, starting nearly a century ago - they bought back the land.

Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - "Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD."

Sign #4: Israel - Reborn in a day

Israel, a nation that had not really existed as a separate nation for nearly 2,500 years, was declared a new sovereign state by an act of the United Nations on May 14, 1948. The nation was born in a day.

Isaiah 66:8 NIV - "Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labour than she gives birth to her children."

Sign #5: The order of the return

The first returning Jews to Palestine came primarily from eastern Arab countries. The next major movement came from the western countries of Europe, especially Germany. Then they came in great numbers from Russia (north) during the end of the 1980's. The last great migrations of Jews returning to Israel came from Ethiopia in the south. This precise order of return was predicted by Isaiah the prophet.

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - "Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth..."

"... the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise."

Psalm 107:2-3 NIV - "Let the redeemed of the LORD say this -- those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south.

Sign #6: A pure language

With the return of the nation, the ancient Hebrew language has been revived and become the official language of the state. Prior to this happening, the Jews spoke an impure form of the language called Yiddish. The return to a pure common language was again predicted by the prophets.

Zephaniah 3:8-10 KJV - "For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, [even] the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering".

Sign #7: The shekel

After nearly 2,000 years the shekel has been reinstated as the common monetary unit in Israel, again, just as predicted.

Ezekiel 45:12-16 NIV - "The shekel is to consist of twenty gerahs. Twenty shekels plus twenty-five shekels plus fifteen shekels equal one mina.... All the people of the land will participate in this special gift for the use of the prince in Israel."

Sign #8: Named cities of Israel

There are many cities in Israel that bear the ancient names of previous Jewish cities. Some of these that bear their Biblical identification include: Cana, Nazareth, Jericho, Nain, Bethany, Bethlehem, Hebron, Gaza, etc. Again, as the ancient nation was in the process of being destroyed, Ezekiel the prophet predicted that many of the ancient cities would, in fact, be re-inhabited and settled in the exact locations.

Ezekiel 36:11; 24 KJV - "And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better [unto you] than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.... For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land."

Sign #9: Cities excepted - never to be inhabited

Yeshua pronounced a curse on at least three cities within the land. These remain in ruins today.

Matthew 11:21-23 NIV - "Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day."

Sign #10: From desolation to productivity

The restoration of the agriculture and of the trees and forests of Israel has been another remarkable miracle. Scarcely 75 years ago, the land was a desolate waste, full of malarial swamps and deserts. Today the replanted forests are flourishing and the Israeli agricultural production is one of the great wonders of the world. This tiny country exports quality produce around the world. Should we say, "Again, just as predicted!"

Isaiah 26:6 NIV - "In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit."

Isaiah 35:1-2 NIV - "The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy...." .................................The answer is really very simple. God gave the land of Israel to Abraham (Genesis 17: and to his descendants through Isaac (Genesis 26:2-5) and Jacob (Genesis 28:1-4,13-14).

That means the land belongs to the descendants of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. In other words, the land belongs to the children of Israel, referred to in the New Testament as the Jews (Romans 1:16).

Some immediately protest this claim by arguing that the Abrahamic Covenant has been abrogated either by the Cross or by the disobedience of the Jews. But the Bible clearly teaches that the Abrahamic Covenant is an everlasting one that is still in effect (Genesis 17:7; 1 Chronicles 16:17-18; Psalm 105:8-11; and Romans 9:4).

As to the effect of the Jew's rejection of Jesus, Paul specifically addresses this question in Romans 3. He asks a rhetorical question: "What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it?" For almost two thousand years the Church has answered this question with a resounding, Yes! But Paul answers it differently. He says, "May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar..." (Romans 3:1-4).

Further, Paul states in Romans 11 that the disobedience of the Jews has not nullified the promises of God to them, "for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:29). God's promises are going to be fulfilled to a believing remnant (Romans 9: 27). In fact, in Romans 9:4, Paul specifically states that God's promises to the Jews are still valid.

Two Land Covenants
What most people do not know is that there are two Old Testament covenants pertaining to the land of Israel. The Abrahamic Covenant gives the title of the land to the Jews in perpetuity. A later covenant, the Mosaic Land Covenant — or Canaan Covenant — of Deuteronomy 28-30 defines the conditions for possession and enjoyment of the land.

This latter covenant is often referred to as the "Palestinian Covenant," but that is a misnomer, for the land was never called Palestine until after the second Jewish revolt in 132-135 A.D. At that time the Romans dubbed it "Palestine" to erase the memory of its Jewish heritage and to insult the Jews, for Palestine is the Latin word for Philistine, the ancient enemy of Israel.

Let me illustrate the role and relationship of these two covenants with a modern day example. Let's say you buy a car for a child of yours and put the title in the child's name. But you explain to the child that there are conditions for using the car — such as no speeding. And you warn your child that a speeding ticket will result in the loss of the privilege of driving the car for a period of two weeks. If the child gets a ticket and you lock the car up in the garage for two weeks, the car still belongs to the child because the child's name is on the title. But the child has temporarily lost possession of the vehicle.

In like manner, the Abrahamic Covenant (about 2,000 B.C.) gave the title of the land to the Jews for eternity. The Canaan Covenant (about 1250 B.C.) defined the terms for possession and use of the land. Title and possession are not the same thing. The Jews have lost possession of the land from time to time, but they have never lost their God-given title.

The Canaan Covenant
The Land Covenant promised that Israel would become the prime nation of the world if the Jews were obedient to God (Deuteronomy 28:1,13). But the covenant warned that many curses would befall the people if they were disobedient (Deuteronomy 28:15-37), including exile from the land (Deuteronomy 28:38-57). The covenant warned further that if temporary exile did not restore the Jews to obedience, they would suffer worldwide dispersion and persecution (Deuteronomy 28:58-68). But nowhere are they told that their disobedience would lead to a loss of their title to the land.

In fact, the Land Covenant ends in chapter 30 with a prophecy and a promise that a day will come — after the Jews have experienced the curses of the covenant — when the Lord will restore them to their land once again: "The Lord will restore you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you. If your outcasts are at the ends of the earth, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there He will bring you back. And the Lord your God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it" (Deuteronomy 30:3-5).

For almost 1900 years the Jews wandered among the nations and suffered severe persecution, just as prophesied in Deuteronomy 28. During that time, their land became desolate as prophesied in Deuteronomy 29. But in this century, God has regathered them from the four corners of the earth, re-established them in their land, and transformed their land from wilderness to milk and honey — as prophesied in Deuteronomy 30.

The only prophecy left to be fulfilled in the Land Covenant is the spiritual salvation of the gathered remnant (Deuteronomy 30:6-. That will occur soon when they repent and accept Yeshua as their Messiah.

The Abrahamic and Land Covenants make it clear that the Jewish people have both the right to the land of Israel and the right to be back in it today.

The Arab Covenant
Where does this leave the Arabs? As descendants of Abraham's son, Ishmael, they too have a promise, but it is not a land promise. The covenant God made with Ishmael had to do with the number of his descendants. Ishmael was promised that his descendants would be "multiplied exceedingly" (Genesis 17:20).

God has faithfully kept His promise to the descendants of Ishmael. Today there are 21 Arab states with a combined population of 175 million Arabs. There is only one Jewish state with a population of 5 million. The Arab states contain 5.3 million square miles of oil rich land. Israel has only 8 thousand square miles of land with no major oil reserves that have been discovered. That's a population ratio of 43 to 1 and a land ratio of 662 to 1!

The Palestinian Claim
But what about the Palestinian people? Don't they deserve a state? Keep in mind first of all that a Palestinian state never existed prior to this century. From 70 A.D. to 1948 the geographical area known as Palestine was never an independent state nor did the Arabs residing there have any consciousness of themselves as a separate nation of people. They regarded themselves as Syrians. Also, keep in mind that Jerusalem has never served as the capital of any Arab nation, whereas it has been considered the capital of the Jewish people since 1000 B.C.

Also noteworthy is the fact that when the West Bank and Gaza were under Jordanian autonomy from 1948 to 1967, there was not any effort to create a separate Palestinian state. The PLO was formed during that time, not for the purpose of creating a Palestinian State, but rather for the purpose of exterminating the Jewish state.

Equally important is the fact that a Palestinian state already exists — and it is four times larger than Israel! The Palestinian state is Jordan. In the Balfour Declaration of 1917, the British originally promised all the Palestinian Mandate to the Jews as a national homeland. But in 1922 they broke that promise by using 77% of the Mandate to create the Arab state of Jordan. Today that state's population is 75% Palestinian.

The True Arab Goal
Then why do the Arabs demand the creation of a Palestinian state within the boundaries of current day Israel? The answer is simple. The real Arab goal is not the establishment of another Palestinian state. The true goal is the destruction of Israel.

In fact, Arafat spelled out his current strategy several years ago to the Arab world, and the strategy was adopted officially by the PLO in 1974. It is called "the phased plan." Realizing that he could not defeat Israel with war or terrorism, he decided that the road to victory was deceptive diplomacy. He would talk about peace in return for land, while rallying the anti-Israeli Western powers to put pressure on the Israeli government to capitulate. Once he got a toe-hold in the land, he would then use that as a base for renewed attacks on Israel. In short, he would take Israel in phases. It is a clever strategy that he has spelled out in detail in many public speeches, just as Hitler outlined his strategy in detail in Mein Kampf.

The World's Demand
The world insists that the Jews must trade land for peace. But trading land for peace only whets the appetite of the aggressor. Israel has returned the Sinai to Egypt twice, and the Egyptians are still bristling with hostility toward Israel.

Furthermore, Israel doesn't have any territory to give away. It is one of the world's smallest nations. Turning the West Bank over to hostile Arabs would put the enemy of Israel within 11 miles of Tel Aviv. No government in its right mind would agree to such insanity.

Why then, did the government of Yitzhak Rabin (the Prime Minister) and Shimon Peres (the Foreign Minister) agree to the initiation of the current peace process? The answer is deception. They were deceived by the PLO and the western nations. Worst of all, they deceived themselves.

Their self-deception was rooted in their Humanistic view of the world. Keep in mind that there was not a single believer in God among the top circle of Israeli leaders in the Rabin government. They were all either atheists or agnostics. Politically, they were either socialists or liberal humanists. This means that they believed in the basic goodness of Man. Translated into foreign policy, it means that they believed that if they treated their enemies with fairness and trust, their enemies would reciprocate. They simply could not bring themselves to believe that their enemies are determined to destroy them.

Imbecilic Policy
Ignoring all the harsh lessons of history, Rabin and Peres embarked on a policy of appeasement, hoping that they could satisfy the appetite of their enemies by giving them land for peace. History proves conclusively that appeasement always has the opposite effect — namely, it encourages the aggressor to want more.

Chamberlain found that out when he tried to satisfy Hitler by trading him the Sudetenland for peace. Chamberlain turned out to be a fool. But Rabin and Peres made Chamberlain look good. After all, he at least was not foolish enough to trade some of the territory of Britain for peace! No, he gave away another nation's land. Rabin and Peres sought to trade their own land, land that puts their sworn enemy in the very heart of their nation.

Implacable Enemies
What makes all this particularly ludicrous is the fact that Yasser Arafat does not even attempt to hide his true intentions. He promised that in return for receiving autonomy over Gaza and Jericho he would have the PLO rescind the clauses in its covenant that call for the destruction of Israel. That was five years ago, and he still has not even attempted to get the PLO to amend its charter.

Even worse, Arafat continues to speak openly about his intention to take Jerusalem. The ink was hardly dry on the "peace" accord when he gave a speech in South Africa advocating a jihad to "liberate" Jerusalem. A jihad is a holy war! Again, Rabin and Peres made excuses for him, as did the U.S. State Department. They explained that Arafat was just saying what he had to say to placate his Arab enemies, and that he really didn't mean what he was saying. That's exactly what the Western European leaders kept saying about Hitler — "He doesn't really mean it." Well, he meant it, and so does Arafat.

Insolent Allies
The Israeli leaders have also been deceived by the West. The United States and its Western allies have talked the government of Israel into doing something that every Israeli leader in the past said the nation would never do, and that is to place the survival of the country in the hands of foreigners. The Western nations keep whispering soothing assurances that they will "guarantee" the peace. But when the "peace" evaporates into all out war, Israel will discover that the Western world will back off and leave the nation to fend for itself. The bottom line is that Israel is no Kuwait. Israel has no oil, and Israel is full of Jews whom the world hates.

The current "peace" process is a prescription for war, and it will be the bloodiest war in the history of the Middle East. I believe it will be a war that will lead up to the climax of the current age, ushering in the Tribulation.

The Jews' Resolve
The Jews must stand firm in their determination to maintain the territorial integrity of the land God gave them. In doing so, they will bring the wrath of the nations upon themselves. The prophet Zechariah says that all the nations of the world will come together against Israel in the end times (Zechariah 12:3).

But God will sustain the Jewish people, for they are the "apple of His eye" (Zechariah 2:. The Word of God says Philistia is finished — "melted away" (Isaiah 14:29-32). And the Word says that once the Jews are reestablished in the their land, "they will never be rooted up again" (Amos 9:14-15).

Let all the world come together against God's Chosen. The Lord sits in the heavens and laughs (Psalm 2:4), for He has the wisdom and power to orchestrate all the evil of Man to the fulfillment of His purposes (Psalm 76:10).

Imminent Scenario
What is likely to happen next? Here is the most likely scenario that I can foresee at the moment. Arafat will die (he is in bad health) or will be assassinated, and Hamas, the fundamentalist Arab terrorist organization funded by Iran, will take over control of the Palestinian autonomous areas. Hamas will then unleash a renewed rain of terror on Israel, lobbing rockets from Gaza and Jericho to back up their demand for control of Jerusalem.

If Arafat manages to remain alive, he will go after the same objective, using more subtle means. He will orchestrate world pressure on Israel through the United Nations and the Vatican. On May 4 of next year he will proclaim a Palestinian state and then demand that Jerusalem be "liberated" or internationalized.

Since even the most liberal Israelis take the position that Jerusalem is non negotiable, the pressure will mount toward an inevitable conflict. If Hamas does not unleash the rockets first, then Arafat will ultimately return to the method he knows best — terror.

This will prompt an Israeli counter attack, which, in turn, will motivate the Arab states to come to the defense of the Palestinians. Syria will launch an all out missile attack on Tel Aviv, using the Scuds it has been purchasing from North Korea.

When that ominous event occurs, the Israelis will be forced to use their ultimate weapon to survive. They will strike Damascus with nuclear weapons. This will fulfill the prophecies that state that Damascus will cease to exist in the end times (Isaiah 17:1-3 and Jeremiah 49:23-27).

In panic, the Arab states will then turn to their natural ally for help — the Russians. And the likelihood is that by that time Russia will be firmly in the hands of either a military dictatorship or a despot like Vladimir Zhiranovsky who would be only too happy to send an army into the Middle East to destroy Israel (and grab the Arab oil fields in the process).

That is when the Lord will step in personally to destroy the Russian hordes on the mountains of Israel in a supernatural way so that even the Israelis will realize that their deliverance came from the Lord and not from their own military might (Ezekiel 38 and 39).

As the whole world panics on the brink of World War III, a dynamic, charismatic political leader from Europe will step into the vacuum and propose an ingenious solution that will result in peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors — a peace that will enable the Jews to rebuild their Temple.

We live in exciting times when we can watch prophecy being fulfilled before our eyes. The events are ominous and overwhelming, but we can stand firm with great hope because we know that God is on His throne and that He is in control.

The events we are currently witnessing point to the imminent return of Yeshua, and when He returns, the world will be flooded with peace and righteousness, and Israel will enjoy the blessings of territorial integrity and peace forevermore (Zechariah 8:1-.
..........................

[MoMo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY







git yer groove on!




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7guzT6ANI&feature=fvst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3af4ZJS4w






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMniyUyqN_E







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM

[MoMo]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/israel.html

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Arab Higher Committee for Palestine Rejects Johnston Plan
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The total annual renewable water resources amount to some 60 billion cubic feet (1.7 billion cu.m.), of which about 75 percent is used for irrigation and the balance for urban and industrial purposes. The country's water sources consist of the Jordan River, Lake Kinneret and a few small river systems. Natural springs and underground water tables, tapped in controlled quantities to prevent depletion and salination, are also utilized. As maximum use has been made of all freshwater sources, ways are being developed to exploit marginal water resources through the recycling of waste water, cloud-seeding and desalination of brackish water.

The National Water Carrier
To overcome regional imbalances in water availability, most of Israel's freshwater sources are joined in an integrated grid. Its central artery, the National Water Carrier, completed in 1964, brings water from the north and central regions, through a network of giant pipes, aqueducts, open canals, reservoirs, tunnels, dams and pumping stations, to the semi-arid south.

[true lilly]

This is NOT a 'typo' of 'tintin's',
that I've highlighted here:

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.


Richard Wagner
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.
__________________________________________________________________

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK has not 'died'.
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was BORN 96 years
AFTER RICHARD WAGNER

32 years, 5 months, 9 days after
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was born,
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK, KILLED...8 + 69 = 77...
or so we are now, officially told...but "tintin" ALWAYS IGNORES
ALL NUMBERS and DATES that DON'T SUIT the CODED ORDERS
HE SENDS AT THE TIME..and, "tintin" CODES 'speak to' different
people, at different 'levels'...the simple messages, to the simple,
'dumb bunnies', 'raised' to be sacrificed, with the computer code,
behind the simple public posts, for those he doesn't want dead, YET.

...and in this post, "TINTIN" IS CALLING "CELLS" of his,
("dumb bunny", bitterly waiting to stop pretending,
that they 'love' the men they 'got in with'), WOmen to KILL...

(full post at link;#29876)

30-07-2011, 07:10 PM#29876


Playboy Rabbit Hole

We are in the year of the RABBIT and that's the RABBI link
to ISRAEL and to the RABBIT HOLE and UTOYA is in HOLE municipality.

TRISTAN was the killer in ALPHEN.



Wagner

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.





Richard Wagner

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.

WAGNER died on 13 FEBRUARY 1883 in CA' VENDRAMIN in VENICE.


Ca' Vendramin: Casino

Ca' Vendramin is the CASINO of VENICE.

The CASINO ROYALE link to NORWAY.

...and I must trust God,
has called those who need to know,
to protect themselves from such WOmen.

[true lilly]

Oh, and lets not forget that
like CONspiracy forums and WIKIleaks,
WIKIpedia is a CODE SOURCE of the
"tintin/Assange"=BREIVIK's of the world...
and so, note...on, 1-8-2011

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The flower of an Isophysis tasmanica plant, the only member of the Isophysis genus in the iris family. The plant is endemic to the mountains of Western Tasmania, growing in heathland on sandy soils. It has grass-like foliage and star-like dark red-purple or yellow flowers with reflexed tepals, as well as a characteristic superior ovary, which distinguishes it from other Iridaceae. Photo: JJ Harrison Recently featured: Sand storm crossing the Red Sea – Kingswear, England – Ursus C-451 tractor

...AFTER my earlier WARNING Post, on 28-7-2011...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1122p60-terrorist-and-other-coded-posts-on-david-icke-forum

Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:
  News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  12:00AM
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."

See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM

Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

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