David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA

true lilly wrote:Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly
Qantas pilots 'not safe' to fly

1:59AM
Stephen Drill, Neil Wilson
QANTAS has blamed tired and stressed pilots
for its decision to ground its aircraft
and leave 68,000 passengers in limbo.

Pictures: Chaos as Qantas grounds fleet
Poll: Has Qantas gone too far?
Crisis: Tourism industry on official red alert
New flights: Qantas passengers pay high price
Outrage: Passengers' travel plans ruined
Racing carnival: Celebrities in race for flights
Heroism: Brother to bring fallen soldier home
Tourism RED ALERT

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:

cuttydrinker
Senior Member

Maybe
they walked to Eastern Europe/Central Asia from the Middle east, no
that doesnt sound like it fits their M.O., too much physical labor for
them, it seems more likely they were pulled their in slave driven carts,
they probably brought along barrells filled with the blood of gentile
children to sustain themsleves on the long journey.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=188637&page=5

That's Pretty Outrageous...!!!

Christ In A Barrell Of Shit, I Wish I Could Of Thought Of Summat As Crass As That...!!!

beetzart77 wrote:Both in Australia at the same time. Do you think
they were rehearsing for the big shapeshift of 2012?

true lilly wrote:
Prime Minister Julia Gillard with the Queen at a banquet dinner
during the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Perth.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/downer-whats-the-point-of-chogm/story-fn6br25t-1226180883656

...BUT...WHERE IS 'BILLY RUBEN'S' BRAG OF HOW WELL DAVID ICKE DID
AT GATHERING MORE DECEIVED AND DECEIVING FOOLS?

true lilly wrote:In eight minutes,
Alan Joyce grounded a fleet
and ignited a battle
by:Steve Creedy
and Matthew Franklin
From:The Australian
October 31, 2011
12:00AM

BY the time
Alan Joyce started his press conference
at 5pm on Saturday in Sydney,
the great Qantas grounding had begun.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/in-eight-minutes-alan-joyce-grounded-a-fleet-and-ignited-a-battle/story-e6frg95x-1226180984860

true lilly wrote:

barnacle bill wrote:

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:SO, why the NEED to "quote" "me",
ON A FORUM THAT DOESN'T LINK TO THE ORIGIN of "the quote"?
Because 'dressing' "their" opponent IN "THEIR" OWN FILTH,
is THE ONLY ATTACK "THEY" HAVE LEFT,
IN THE LIGHT OF YEARS OF FACTS THAT EXPOSE "THEM" as
THE ENEMIES of ALL LIFE.

P.S. so many "names" ranting in THE SAME INSANE 'VOICE',
only CONvinces THE FOOLS WHO DESERVE TO BE FOOLED,
of YOUR BALD FACED LIES.

P.P.S. And stop insulting everyone
by acting as if no one has figured out WHY THIS Forum
(the only one left in The World Wide WEB of DECEIVERS,
that I'm able to post in), does NOT LINK "quotes"
TO THEIR ORIGINAL SOURCE.

true lilly wrote:Gee, NOT surprising that "tintin" and his team,
DON'T dare DECODE THESE NUMBERS, but stay
STUCK in OLD MOVIE Scripts...

Julia Gillard's Qantas move
didn't follow the script



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/news/julia-gillards-qantas-move-didnt-follow-the-script/story-fn32891l-1226182021708

Gillard's Qantas move didn't follow the script

TRANSCRIPT shows PM's office was told
they had "options available" to avoid grounding.

Fair Work Australia terminates industrial action
Take a look back at the history of Qantas
Qantas blames stressed crew for grounding

JULIA Gillard's office and three senior ministers were told by
Qantas management they had "options available" to avoid the fleet
grounding and that CEO Alan Joyce was ready to talk to the PM.

A script for the phone calls confirms revelations in The Daily Telegraph
that the government was told it had the opportunity to act but it would
need to deliver certainty.

It was also stressed that Mr Joyce was available to speak to Ms Gillard,
although she never called him until after the revelations yesterday
morning.

Qantas government relations executive Olivia Wirth
confirmed she spoke according to the script when she called the Prime
Minister's chief of staff at 2.05pm on the day of the grounding.

The script was also used by Mr Joyce in calls with Transport Minister
Anthony Albanese at 2pm, followed by Tourism Minister Martin Ferguson
and Workplace Relations Minister Chris Evans.

Travellers return to the skies as PM slams Qantas

All were told: "We recognise the government has a range of options
available to you, however we need to make it clear that we will not, and
cannot put planes back in the air until these issues are resolved and
we have certainty."

This was considered an unmissable suggestion to the PM and ministers that
they should ban further action. Ms Wirth confirmed to The Daily Telegraph last night
that was "the way you get certainty. No more action".

The PM's chief of staff was also told to let Ms Gillard know:
"Alan is available to discuss further details.
Alan's here if you want to chat to him."

But Ms Gillard did not take this as a request to call Mr Joyce, nor did she
have the government declare the strike action illegal, which has
stunned many inside Qantas.

Her spokesman yesterday denied the government was given the option
to avoid the mass grounding.

"The government was presented with the grounding of the planes as a fait accompli," he said.

But Ms Wirth confirmed that the script had been used in all phone calls.

Instead the PM referred the matter to the industrial court Fair Work Australia.
By the time the full bench made the same order tens of thousands of
passengers had already been left stranded or otherwise disrupted.

In a fiery question time yesterday the Opposition hammered Ms Gillard and her ministers
on their handling of the issue.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott wanted to know what the government had done in the
three hours between 2pm and 5pm Saturday when the grounding took effect.

His deputy Julie Bishop wanted to know why the prime minister had not
spoken personally to Mr Joyce in a bid to circumvent the grounding.

Backbenchers lined up to ask ministers how the government's decision to refer the
dispute to Fair Work Australia was good for the nation, the economy, the
tourism sector and the travelling public.
Ms Gillard defended the government's decision not to take matters into its own hands.

She accused the opposition of "peddling a falsehood" by claiming the
government merely had to sign a piece of paper to end industrial action
because it was in the nation's interest.

"Peddling of that falsehood should stop here and it should stop now," she said.
___________________________________________________________

The more they talk, the more they seem to be saying that
"THE GROUNDING" was NOT about "preventing" a "workers" "STRIKE",
but a TERRORIST STRIKE...well, it is the only thing that actually makes sense,
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.

true lilly wrote:Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?

Well?

David Icke OFFICIAL FORUMS is chock full of 'australian's'
(according to the multiple I.D. 'names' that post there),
and even 'Billy Ruben' was REJOICING about his imminent
arrival, and then of course there is 'TISWAS' that's always
DEMANDING David Icke Be WORSHIPED, YET Google has
NOTHING to offer in the way of a review of this latest
PROPAGANDA Tour HIT On MELBOURNE...WHILE THE QUEEN
(that David Icke ATTACKS), was here...AND, ALL QANTAS
Planes were GROUNDED when SHE flew out, and David Icke
should have still been in Melbourne.

'Should Have'...but who knows, all information that was available
is no longer, and there are "date CHANGES"...it used to show
the weekend the Queen was here, but now showing (only at
an events site) that he was here 3 weeks earlier???

Well I found this, and despite all the ICKE DEFENDERS
(see comments),
http://www.vexnews.com/2011/10/darkness-within-neo-nazi-conspiracy-theorists-at-the-heart-of-occupy-melbourne-protest/comment-page-2/#comment-59338
still NO REVIEW!!!???

DARKNESS WITHIN:
Neo-Nazi conspiracy theorists
at the heart of Occupy Melbourne protest
By VEXNEWS ⋅ October 22, 2011

VEXNEWS can reveal that Tina Athanasopoulos,
a key organiser of the Occupy Melbourne
is a devotee of a bizarre anti-Semitic
neo-Nazi conspiracy theorist David Icke. But more of that later.

Occupy Melbourne ended predictably.

Even small-l liberal inner-city Melbourne had thought the protesters
had had a good run, longer than some of its less successful artistic
offerings and that it was time for it to decently conclude.

MESSED OPPORTUNITY
It was a missed opportunity for the mostly naive extremists – and their
Greens party allies – to honour their commitments and leave declaring
some kind of imaginary success over ‘the man’. Instead, in the manner of
the spoiled child, they blocked tram lines used by workers to get home
and fouled up the City Square, leaving it for Council workers to clean
up.


If empowering the “99%” against the “1%” was really the aim, they used and
abused a lot of innocent “99%” victims along the way to make a point
that no-one has yet articulated and no-one comprehends. For reasons we
shall see, some of what lurked behind Occupy Melbourne was much smellier
than even the most unwashed sleeping bag.

Naturally the chancers in the increasingly cynical and sleazy Greens
political party sniffed the opportunity over the body odour.

A self-appointed leader of the gathering, whose involvement in
funny-money “charity” schemes in the past prompt real questions about
his own corporate greed that he has failed to answer, Nick Carson was a Greens party political candidate at the last state election and continues as a member.

POWER BANDT
Their current MP for Melbourne, Dr Adam Bandt PhD, who is so nervous
about holding his seat that he had his party spend $10,000 of
taxpayer-generated funds on Galaxy opinion-polling to rebut claims he
was doing a woeful job as a local MP because he’s a regular no-show at
community events and has alienated many community groups in
inner-Melbourne, jumped all over the Occupy Melbourne sleeping bag,
declaring it was a “blunder” to move the protesters on.

Bandt was supportive of Occupy Melbourne, opining:

“It is no wonder that people are protesting. The richest 20% of
households in Australian have 60 times the wealth of the poorest 20% of
Australians. CEOs are getting huge pay increases and banks are posting
record profits.”

But Bandt is part of the problem of which he complains. He is Mr 1%
in a suit with a smug grin. He flies first class, at taxpayer expense.
He employed his girlfriend in his MP’s office at public expense. He then
got her another cushy job. He is paid nearly $4000 a week to serve as
an MP. He is chauffeured around to the airport in a V8 luxo-barge
ComCar.

He does not eat his own mung-bean cooking of the revolution.

And who could blame him?

KEEPING IT REAL
We don’t think MP’s are paid excessively or should lose perks that
perhaps slightly compensate for all the crap that gets thrown at them
but we do ask wannabe revolutionaries to be consistent and live the
words they preach.

That Socialist Party Yarra councillor Steve Jolly is a shocker. He
wants to reinstate socialism in the world, despite a rather embarrassing
experiment where whole countries were held back in a mire of waste and
indolence for decades with millions of people sent to gulags, persecuted
and murdered by the system that pretended to be a “worker’s paradise”.
In PR terms, we might call this something of a setback, perhaps slightly
“diminishing brand equity” as they might say on St Kilda Road.

But Jolly slings back his council honorarium – and is apparently
required to by his comrades – to the party whose dead horse he so
sincerely flogs and only receives a “living wage.”

If the Greens did that rather than pretend to be groovy
revolutionaries while flying around like pampered poodles, they’d be
more convincing. Jolly may be wrong but the Greens are wrong while being
frauds of the most outrageous kind.

WORKERS UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED
Meanwhile, there are workers who do it tough. One group of them – highly
unionised – have very high levels of workplace injury and trauma. Most
of them get around $60,000 to $70,000 per annum, maybe a little more
with overtime. They risk their lives, many of them, every time they go
out on the job.


Yep, it’s the Police.
They are working people.

But state Greens MP Colleen Hartland wasn’t impressed. She told her friends at The Age:

“Police in riot gear just started to push me and once that happened I decided that I would be joining in.”

They were doing their job. They did so very cautiously, deliberately
and responsibly in circumstances that ought never have been necessary
because the protesters ought to have packed up, cheered themselves
through the drizzle and declared a victory of some kind over the “man.”

It’s worth contemplating why they didn’t.

It’s because at the heart of the leadership of Occupy Melbourne were
the truly, raving mad. And, even worse, vile and dangerous anti-Semites
and neo-Nazis.

A key Occupy Melbourne organiser
was Tina Athanasopoulos.
She set up its Facebook page,
gave interviews on 3CR
representing them and so on.

And who is this Tina Athanasopoulos?


She’s a devotee of David Icke. VEXNEWS has obtained Facebook entries made by
her in a private David Icke group, where she assured members of his
group that she was a central player in the Occupy Melbourne and that she
would ensure Icke’s views were advanced.

David Icke, apparently touring the nation at the moment, is a leading
conspiracy theorist who expounds views including according to
Wikipedia:

At the heart of his theories lies the idea that the world is
becoming a global fascist state, that a secret group of reptilian
humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that
many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen
Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie

Ominously:

According to Barkun, Icke has actively tried to cultivate the far
right. In 1996, he spoke to a conference in Reno, Nevada, alongside
opponents of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act—which mandates
background checks on people who buy guns in the United States—including
Kirk Lyons, a white nationalist lawyer who has represented the Ku Klux
Klan. Barkun argues that the relationship between Icke, the militias,
and the Christian Patriots is complex because of the New Age baggage
Icke brings with him, and he stresses that Icke is not actually a member
of any of these groups, but he has nevertheless absorbed the world view
of the radical right virtually intact.

and, as such, he doesn’t think much of the Jews:

In The Robots’ Rebellion (1994), Icke introduced the idea that
the Global Elite’s plan for world domination was laid out in The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hoax published in Russia in 1903,
which supposedly presented a plan by the Jewish people to take over the
world. The Protocols is the most influential piece of antisemitic
material of modern times, portraying the Jewish people as cackling
villains from a Saturday matinee, as Jon Ronson put it in his
documentary about Icke, David Icke, the Lizards and the Jews (2001)

These are the dogs that elected Greens party politicians have –
hopefully unwittingly – associated themselves with. Little wonder those
who attended Occupy Melbourne were left scratching at fleas afterwards.

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true lilly wrote:Well?

It's been a while...and
you PANICKED
and THREW ME OUT OF
THE THE REPLY PAGE,
when I was just about to
ask the next KILLER QUESTION...


...still no reviews hey....

...so, to quote "Ciggy/Billy":

NO PHOTOS. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

• Barclays in U-turn on staff poppies
  
• The last of the summer winos...
  
• Red tape bans Legion sellers
  
• The Sun Says
  

Play video (Flash broadband)

Poppies at the British Legion poppy factory in Richmond, west London. Photograph: Suzanne Plunkett/Reuters

A number of people have been arrested in Northern Ireland after a picture of two youths burning a poppy was posted on Facebook.

The Police Service of Northern Ireland confirmed it was questioning people
from the Coleraine area after the image appeared on the website.
The Royal British Legion member Stephen Phillips, who reported the image
to the police, said he was shocked when he saw it.
"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," he said.

He added that those responsible for such incidents should realise "it
wasn't just Protestants, there were Catholics, there were Muslims, there
were Hindu people who laid their lives down in both world wars".

Robin Swann, an Stormont assembly member for the Ulster Unionist party, also denounced the online image.

"Clearly something is lacking in the lives of these young people and they
deserve our utter contempt. They certainly have no grasp of history or
current affairs. If they did they would know that the poppy remembers
the tens of thousands of Irishmen from both traditions who served in the
British army in the first world war, and also those who stood against Hitler
and fascism in the second world war. How anyone could be so ignorant
as to burn a symbol which remembers the fallen is beyond belief," he said.

"The tragic irony is that the freedoms
which the poppy burners both enjoy and abuse
have been paid for by other young men and women
who have the courage to
put on a uniform and place themselves in harm."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_British_Legion_Riders_Branch

true lilly wrote:Remember I told you of how
"TINTIN" SPAT VENOM AT EVERY MEMORIAL
TO OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS, while he was here...

...well, here's yet another REAL WORLD,
REAL TIME, REAL PEOPLE, LINK TO TINTIN'S,
NO LONGER SECRET AGENDA, that I've paid
so heavily for REFUSING TO BUY...BASTARD!!!
WANTED ME TO DISHONOUR ALL WHO GAVE
THEIR LIVES FOR OUR LIVES!!!

Don't know how many times I had to remind him
that there is a BIG difference between war mongers,
and HONOURABLE HEARTED SOLDIERS who FOUGHT
FOR KIN, COUNTRY, and OUR CHOICE OF RULER!

No arrest for poppy attacks in shake-up

Protest ... poppies on fire





Poundland U-turn after poppy ban

BUDGET retailer decides staff CAN wear poppies to work after an online outcry

• Barclays in U-turn on staff poppies
  
• The last of the summer winos...
  
• Red tape bans Legion sellers
  
• The Sun Says
  

By GRAEME WILSON
Published: 14 Oct 2011
Add a comment
(95)

BURNING poppies or abusing soldiers may no longer be illegal under plans
unveiled yesterday.

Ministers are considering making it legal to use insulting words or actions to
avoid "criminalising free speech".

Yobs can currently be nicked for being "threatening, abusive or insulting".


Tougher rules ... Theresa May

Emdadur Choudhury, 26, was charged last year after burning poppies and five
Muslims were convicted for shouting insults at a homecoming parade.

Ministers have also unveiled plans to let cops make thugs remove "face
coverings" or masks.

But minister James Brokenshire said: "We must make sure any powers do not
trample upon traditional British freedoms."

Meanwhile, tighter laws brought in by Theresa May saw the number of
anti-terror stop and searches fall from 102,504 to 9,652 last year.
__________________________________________

Yet...YET, HE and "THEY" PROUDLY CALL FOR
REVOLUTIONS AROUND THE WORLD TODAY,
TO HAND RULE TO "THEM"!!!

AND LOOK WHAT THAT COST THOSE,
MOST VULNERABLE, WHO BOUGHT HIS/"THEIR"
CURRENT WAR MONGERING PROPAGANDA!!!

Revolution Hijacked
Broadcast: 01/11/2011
Reporter: Ben Knight

Play video (Flash broadband)


With over 50 new political
parties, the upcoming round of elections draw many candidates to Tahrir
Square each week hoping to influence the voters.

“I do have one regret, that on the 11th of February, we accepted to leave the square. Maybe we should have stayed.” - Salma el Tarzi, documentary maker and protester.

"Salma in the Square",
broadcast in February, was one of Foreign Correspondent’s most
memorable stories this year. As protesters occupied Tahrir Square in
central Cairo, refusing to leave in the face of violence, threats and
intimidation from the regime of Hosni Mubarak, we were there, following
the drama through the eyes of a charismatic young rebel, Salma el Tarzi.

Like
so many others, our crew was beaten by pro-government thugs and
detained by military police. Protesters were shot, beaten and injured.

For
eighteen long days and nights no-one knew whether the revolution would
succeed. Eventually President Mubarak stepped down. The Egyptian Army
stayed neutral; the people had triumphed, or so they thought.

Now we're back in Egypt to see what the revolution has delivered.

Despite
military promises to supervise a quick transition to democracy, that
hasn’t happened. Instead we’ve seen state-sponsored thuggery, the
reimposition of censorship, and thousands of military trials where
people convicted have no right of appeal.

Our crew was on hand on
two occasions when Coptic Christians and Muslim allies clashed with
military and police near the government television station.

In
the second clash at least 27 people were killed and three injured.
Foreign Correspondent was one of the few media teams able to enter the
Coptic Hospital morgue where the dead, many of them squashed by armoured
personnel carriers, had been brought.

“You know the army council is trying to kill the revolution.” - Bothaina Kamel, former newsreader and now presidential candidate

Amid
the bloodshed and trouble there are signs of hope as well. Visit Tahrir
Square and you’ll find a democratic nursery, full of passionate
speakers and throbbing sound systems selling the merits of just some of
Egypt’s fifty new political parties.

Bothaina Kamel and Salma el
Tarzi are just two of many women who now have a voice and a more
prominent role in the new Egypt. Kamel has begun campaigning for a
presidential election which may be as far off as 2013.

And we
meet Ghalia Mahmoud, formerly a humble housewife, now Egypt’s latest
television sensation, with her own cooking show featuring local cuisine.


“The old regime did not want to show on TV that 90 per cent
of the population eat this kind of food. They always had these high
class programs, trying to show the rest of the world that Egyptians are
always eating turkey, lamb, and lobster. They didn’t want to show the
real Egypt.” - Ghalia Mahmoud, television chef
__________________________________

Further information

The Australian Coptic Movement is planning a
Vigil for Peace
in Sydney on Friday November 4
__________________________________
Transcript

KNIGHT:
Being here in this square back in February on the night that Hosni
Mubarak quit was something that I will simply just never forget. Just to
be around so many people who were exploding with joy and relief and
probably most of all, hope. Well coming back you can still find the hope
but I’m also seeing a lot of anger and confusion.

On the right
day, in the right light, Cairo looks serene. The Nile is a timeless
constant. So too it seems is the struggle for power. The revolution is
far from over.
The rebellion gathered and grew nine months ago at a
busy roundabout in the centre of Cairo. As the world knows well enough
now, it’s a place called Tahrir Square. For 18 days and nights,
Egyptians occupied the centre of the city.

Early on Foreign
Correspondent met one of the revolution’s most impressive young leaders,
Salma el Tarzi and followed her as the mood swung from day to day,
hopes rising and falling that President Hosni Mubarak would give up
power.

SALMA EL TARZI: [During February protest] “It’s
overwhelming because there are so many emotions. It’s so beautiful and
so ugly at the same time but there’s this feeling of pride. Everyone in
this square is walking with their backs straight for the first time in
their lives. We are not animals. We have the right to be people and hold
our heads high”.

KNIGHT: Noor Ayman Noor was also in Tahrir
Square in February on the day the Mubarak regime paid thugs to attack
pro-democracy demonstrators.

NOOR AYMAN NOOR: [During February
protest] “They’re trying to get Egyptians to kill each other. They sent
their supporters with horses and camels so that they can be violent with
us, so that we will kill each other”.

KNIGHT: On the 11th of February, Hosni Mubarak finally stepped down.

SALMA EL TARZI: [During February protest] “I think we’re going to celebrate for another couple of days”.

KNIGHT:
The Egyptian army took over promising it would manage a transition to
democracy. The revolutionaries had won… or so they thought. Now Salma el
Tarzi fears that the army has no intention of going back to the
barracks.

SALMA EL TARZI: “It’s unfortunate that it has to be
this ugly and that the army is forcing the situation that there should
be so much bloodshed but if this is what it takes, then this is what it
takes”.

KNIGHT: Every day, the Egyptian army is looking more and
more like the regime it replaced. This video posted on YouTube has
provoked disgust. It’s hard to watch. It shows soldiers and police
bashing and giving electric shocks to two men they accuse of selling
weapons. This is the sort of brutality for which the Egyptian police
were despised, methods which the army was thought not to practice.

NOOR
AYMAN NOOR: “What breaks my heart is the fact that we all knew it would
be a difficult road after Mubarak left. I just never thought that we’d
be oppressed in the exact same way by very similar people, using the
exact same mechanisms”.

KNIGHT: Noor Ayman Noor is the son of a
prominent Egyptian politician and bears the scars of being a
revolutionary. Aged just twenty-one, all his energies go into resisting
the military’s repression.

NOOR AYMAN NOOR: “People getting
beaten up, people getting killed, people getting arrested, people being
placed on military trials. As well as again using the media to scare
people, to give them the impression that okay the revolution is over,
now it’s time to start building again”.

SALMA EL TARZI: “They’re
just not going to give it to us like this. I mean, let’s be realistic.
These people were running the country for the past 60 years and it would
be very naive to expect that we tell them, okay we want a civil state,
we don’t want you to have anything to do and then they just going to
tell us, okay fine. Take it. I mean it wouldn’t make sense”.

KNIGHT:
Each year Egypt marks the anniversary of the 1973 war with Israel as
Armed Forces Day. The army has traditionally had the trust of the
Egyptian people and that trust was strengthened back in February when
soldiers came onto the street promising not to fire on protesters.

It
was the turning point of the revolution and it paved the way for the
Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, known as SCAF to take over –
promising elections within six months.

The SCAF leader is Field
Marshall Mohammed Tantawi who was Mubarak’s Defence Minister for 20
years and now fills the TV screens once dominated by the President. He
claims progress towards democracy is being made, but many Egyptians have
stopped listening.

BOTHAINA KAMEL: “You know the Army Council,
the SCAF, trying to kill the revolution. We went to the streets on the
25th of January against police and the torture and now we have police
and army police. We have military trials. We have over than 12 thousand
Egyptians accused”.

KNIGHT: Bothaina Kamel was a newsreader on
Egyptian state television until she quit five years ago, saying she
could no longer spruik the government’s propaganda. The revolution has
given her a direction – she’s now running for president.

BOTHAINA
KAMEL: “How to trust army? The mentality of the army is to give orders
and to obey orders. I believe that the army don’t want to give the power
to a civil president. That’s what I believe”.

KNIGHT: When the
military council SCAF announced last month it was bringing back
censorship laws, journalists were furious. In recent months reporters
have been harassed and arrested. Newspapers have been closed and at
Egyptian State Television, very little has changed as Bothaina Kamel
discovered when she appeared on a talk show.

BOTHAINA KAMEL:
[Egyptian talk show] “My program is the revolution’s demands – bread,
freedom and dignity. My slogan is ‘Egypt is my agenda’.”

KNIGHT: State TV management weren’t impressed. The presenter was told to kill the interview.

SHOW
PRESENTER: “Actually, I’m being forced to end the program now. The
producer in the control room has had calls from Dr Sami el-Sherif, head
of the Egyptian television union, ordering us to end this programme now.

BOTHAINA KAMEL: “This is worse than Mubarak’s media”.

KNIGHT: Two days later the army called.

BOTHAINA
KAMEL: “They charged me with insulting a member of the army council and
insulting the army but I said, ‘I respect very much the Egyptian Army
but me and all the Egyptians have the right to criticise the army
council and his politics’. They can’t accept criticising them, but why
we need a revolution?”

KNIGHT: In the working class area of Shoubra, many people are asking the same question.

“So you’re saying the mosques have got louder in recent times?”

DR NAWAL SADAAWI: “Yes. And even after the revolution of course they started under Sadat. We never had that before”.

KNIGHT: Dr Nawal Sadaawi is one of Egypt’s most famous authors and activists and another veteran of Tahrir Square.

DR
NAWAL SADAAWI: “We have a backlash. We have a backlash against the
revolution, against women, against secularism, against equality, against
democracy”.

KNIGHT: This is the problem. Everyone in Egypt has their own idea about what their revolution was about.

“Do you trust the army to steer Egypt towards democracy?”

DR NAWAL SADAAWI: “No. Two things I don’t trust. Military rule and religious rule. We must have a secular civil government”.

KNIGHT: “And what if you don’t get it?”

DR
NAWAL SADAAWI: “We fight for it. Nobody dreamt, I am a very, I am a
woman of struggle, of confrontation you know? I am a fighter, not only a
writer, so I struggle for everything – in my private life and in my
public life – so we never dreamt that Mubarak would leave”.

KNIGHT: The revolution was not just a reaction to the excesses of the regime, it was also driven by the fundamentals of life.
Ghalia Mahmoud is in many ways fairly typical of Egypt’s massive working class.

“So the poverty, was that why you supported the revolution or was there another reason?”

GHALIA
MAHMOUD: “Of course. The revolution grew out of poverty and hunger –
that’s the main reason behind it. Some people had too much, while others
were hungry. That was the reason for the revolution – social justice”.

KNIGHT: “So Ghalia what’s your weekly food budget for your family?”

GHALIA MAHMOUD: “No more than 100 Egyptian pounds for the whole week”.

KNIGHT: “So for about 15 American dollars a week you’re feeding a family of ten, so what do they eat for that much money?”

GHALIA MAHMOUD: “Once a week I’ll feed them chicken or meat. The rest of the week is all vegetables with rice”.

KNIGHT:
While Ghalia still skimps on the household budget, the revolution has
given her a chance to show other Egyptians what they can do.

GHALIA MAHMOUD: [on her TV show] “Welcome my friends – and today is a new and delightful day”.

KNIGHT: It’s changed her life in ways she could never have expected. Ghalia Mahmoud is Egypt’s newest celebrity chef.

GHALIA
MAHMOUD: “Today we’re going to cook breaded marrows in olive oil with
marrows and tomatoes. It’s a beautiful dish – you will enjoy it”.

KNIGHT:
There’s never been a show like this on Egyptian television and not just
because Hosni Mubarak’s wife Suzanne banned women in headscarves from
appearing on screen.

GHALIA MAHMOUD: “The old regime did not
want to show on TV that 90 per cent of the population cook this kind of
food. They always had these high-class programs trying to show the rest
of the world that Egyptians are always eating turkey, lamb and lobster.
They didn’t want to show the real Egypt”.

KNIGHT: Ghalia Mahmoud
was discovered while she was working as a cook for the sister of TV
producer Mohamed Gohar. He knew she’d be perfect for his new station,
called “25” after the January 25th revolution. Channel 25 broadcasts
from a studio in the shadow of the massive state television building. As
we left it that night, we walked straight into demonstrators who were
targeting that TV centre, known as the Maspiro.

Coptic
Christians were demanding that the army keep its promise to protect all
Egyptians. Since the revolution, they’ve come under increasing attack
from Muslim extremists.

MOHAMED ATEF: “The Egyptian revolution
meant for all Egyptians, freedom. But unfortunately the freedom didn’t
reach us until now. Until now we didn’t get it. I am Muslim but I am
talking in the same tongue as my Coptic brothers. The Egyptian
revolution didn’t protect them, didn’t protect their freedom to
religion”.

KNIGHT: Four nights later we’re back near the
government television centre again watching a much bigger rally by
Christians and some of their Muslim allies. Initially they’re attacked
by thugs. Then, there are running street battles with riot police and
soldiers. State TV inflames the situation telling its viewers the army
is coming under attack from Christians and that people should come onto
the streets to help the soldiers.

Armoured vehicles career into
crowds, crushing protestors to death. We heard gunshots, riot police
fired tear gas and charge with batons raised. We’re chased across a
bridge spanning the Nile. State TV reports that three soldiers have been
killed but it says nothing about any other casualties.
At Cairo’s Coptic Hospital we find them. Chaos reigns in the morgue. People are keen to show us the victims.

There’s
only room for three bodies in the refrigerated section. The bodies of
14 others are laid on the floor. Their faces uncovered for their
families to identify them.

“This is not the first time that I’ve
been in a morgue but it would have to be the most distressing. Normally
you’re looking at the bodies that are casualties of war. These are
casualties of something else. I can’t describe the injuries. When a face
is caved in, it doesn’t come from a bullet, it comes from something…
who knows what.

What is also distressing is the way that the
grief here is now turning to anger and outside these walls is the
Egyptian Army. Now this is now where the protest and the riot took
place. It was four or five kilometres away from here, but the Army has
now come here. There are running battles outside in the street. We can’t
leave. No one in here can leave. Why are they there?”

PAULUS ZAKI: “We are Christian. We come for the peace. We only came to Maspiro and we told them we’d finish about 8 o’clock”.

KNIGHT: “They said that you set fire to the police vehicles, that police officers were killed”.

PAULUS
ZAKI: “Yes police officers and the army, the Egyptian Army. I cannot
believe the Egyptian Army has killed Egyptian people. Whatever
nationality we are, we are Egyptian. We cannot believe that. How can you
do this to people, why?”

KNIGHT: At least 27 people were killed and 300 wounded in the worst episode of violence since the revolution.
SCAF called a media conference to defend itself against accusations of murder.

ARMY PERSONNEL: “The Armed Forces would never direct its fire at the people”.

KNIGHT:
“The army claims soldiers didn’t use live ammunition and didn’t
deliberately run over anyone. It blames the deaths on unnamed
infiltrators trying to destroy the revolution”.

SALMA EL TARZI:
“And they always use big words like, ‘foreign conspiracy’, ‘mysterious
powers’, ‘powers of darkness’ and this is not a joke. One of the
statements said ‘the mysterious powers of darkness’. It was like Darth
Vader is invading Cairo. They never tell you who this is but they always
keep it vague and they always make you feel that there is this huge
conspiracy against Egypt and it’s everyone’s duty to really protect it
and the only way to protect it is to kill the people that are
demonstrating in the street”.

KNIGHT: On the night of the Coptic
protest, Channel 25 shows pictures of the melee outside its windows.
Suddenly, armed soldiers burst into its studio. The pregnant news
presenter is terrified. A Christian staffer is beaten up.
Channel 25
protests against the army raid and shuts down. Ghalia Mahmoud’s new
career looks short lived. But in the past week, both Channel 25 and
Ghalia are back on the air.

Many other Egyptians are also finding
that the revolution isn’t delivering change. The economy is paralysed.
Half the population lives on less than two dollars a day. Even in the
fertile Nile Valley, farmers can only afford to lease tiny plots of
land. They’re desperately poor. In the village of Kafr Hemayed there’s
no sanitation and very little running water and electricity. It has only
a junior school and as many as eighty-five students are crammed into
each classroom.

“This village is believed to be the poorest in
the governorate of Giza, although figures are almost impossible to come
by. But it’s exactly the sort of place that was ignored and taken for
granted by the ruling party. No politician of any consequence ever came
here and certainly no one ever felt the need to campaign here, but
tonight that’s going to change”.

Bothaina Kamel wants to be president to improve villagers’ lives yet she’s asking some difficult questions of potential voters.

BOTHAINA
KAMEL: “Do you believe in equality, meaning that the rich and the poor
are equal and that we’re all equal? We must believe that this is the
principle we must fight for – that no Muslim is better than a Christian.
And when we educate, we educate the boy and the girl”.

KNIGHT:
She crashes a wedding party, but no one seems to mind. Her TV profile
probably helps. Most people just seem stunned that someone like her is
actually paying attention to them. At the mayor’s house, village leaders
are pouring out their problems. Bothaina Kamel asks them to swear a
pledge.

BOTHAINA KAMEL: [village leaders repeat after her] “I
swear by the Almighty God I will not go back to my old ways, being a
passive citizen. And that I will not let anyone steal my rights and my
homeland’s rights and my children’s rights”.

KNIGHT: One positive
effect of the February revolution has been the emergence of grass roots
political debate in Egypt. There are now more than 50 new political
parties - and in Tahrir Square come most Friday’s, each sets up its own
stage and PA system, each trying to drown out the others with ear
splitting speeches. The first round of parliamentary elections is due at
the end of the month, but even now after nine months in charge, SCAF
issues contradictory instructions about how those elections will be
conducted. The pro democracy campaigners have no confidence in them.

NOOR
AYMAN NOOR: “We’re going to see lots of bloodshed during these
elections so that the army can come back and say, look we said it before
the Egyptian people aren’t ready now for democracy, there’s going to be
a mini-military takeover, we’re going to take things over until things
are stable again and then we’ll open things up for democracy later”.

KNIGHT:
18 days of defying the Mubarak regime dramatically changed Salma el
Tarzi’s life and while maintaining the rage still dominates her life,
she is getting back to work making documentaries. It’s not easy finding
the balance.

SALMA EL TARZI: “I do not expect the revolution to
be over soon. We are cleaning up the mess of the past, not only 30
years, I believe the past 60 years and it’s not going to happen in nine
months”.

COPTIC GROUP CHANTING: [at funeral] “With our spirit,
with our blood we sacrifice for the Cross. With our spirit, with our
blood we sacrifice for the Cross”.

KNIGHT: When the Coptic
community buried their dead, they called them martyrs. It’s an overused
word in the Middle East, but it’s still highly loaded. As each coffin
arrives, waves of emotion rip through the cathedral. For some the
anguish is too much to bear. Respect for human rights was a key demand
for pro democracy campaigners. While the army initially seemed to
understand this, the slaughter of Egyptian Christians has triggered the
biggest crisis in the country since the revolution.

The military
council intends to hold onto power until the Constitution is rewritten
and a presidential election is held. That could be as late as 2013 – far
too long for an impatient, angry people.

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true lilly wrote:

tintin" aka Cruise wrote:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3206



Curse of Cruise

In 1988 IRAN FLIGHT 655 was shot down on 3 JULY,

on the 26th birthday of TOM CRUISE.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3205

YES, "tintin" posted as "Cruise"
BEFORE he FLEW OUT of MELBOURNE,
TO SYDNEY,
under the passport of "Aarnout van der Plooge".

Ciggy wrote:

Go on,
Team TINTIN/ICKE
"CIGGY

BILLY" & YOUR LOCAL SCUM,

tell The Corp's that,
"NONE OF THIS HAPPENED,
UNTIL IT 'made the news'",
in front of all the
HIDDEN EVEN FROM "YOU", Lurkers,
I DAMN WELL dare "YOU".

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le sabrage wrote:Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....


THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO God...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Ethical Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. An Abstract Ethical Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups’ values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Ethical Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.

Each one of the first four commandments encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated than other contemporary Ancient Near East Cultures.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shall have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop demoted all other elohim/gods & goddesses to nothings.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existent, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subservient to Him.

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs’ Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Arithmetic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other Ancient Near East culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literate Societies tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgement Day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden one day a week and the Farmland to lay fallow every seven years to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamia.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform in usage after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Relativists may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the Ancient Near East Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.

true lilly wrote:Well, like most of my posts, the images have been removed
(mostly because I let those KEY Images, 'do most of the talking'),
but this page is timely and relevant now...as others have noticed
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

The following is only a little of what is relevant now
(much more at the link),
but I include it as, we also,
NOW have The Situation -
AFTER THE QUEEN HOSTED CHOGM
(COMMONWEALTH HEADS of GOVERNMENT MEETING)
IN AUSTRALIA -
that NOT ONLY CAN a
FEMALE INHERIT THE BRITISH CROWN
AHEAD of a Younger Male,
BUT, CATHOLICS ARE NO LONGER EXCLUDED!

Royal girls to get equal shot at crown - World news - Europe ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../royal-girls-get-equal-shot-crow... - United States
28 Oct 2011 – First-born daughters will have new right to inherit the throne ... able to pass her crown to her firstborn, Britain's Princess Victoria would have had ...

CatholicHerald.co.uk | Breaking news and opinion from the online ...
www.catholicherald.co.uk/
2 hours ago – Ban on British monarch marrying a Catholic to be lifted ...

The prince is a direct descendant of
Anne, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange,
eldest daughter of British King George II.
However, under the British Act of Settlement,
Prince Willem-Alexander forfeited his (distant)
succession rights to the throne
of the United Kingdom,
because he married a Roman Catholic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander,_Prince_of_Orange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A1xima_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Claus_of_the_Netherlands

tintin wrote:30-05-2008,


The great Deception.
The Anti-christ is the great Deception.
All about "appearance" and empty hollow words that LOOK
to be honest but are the
opposite.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is the great DECEIVER.[/size]

Máxima and her husband
at the White House,
11 September 2009.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthony1965 You take paranoia to new heights Vera... Just as you do with hypocrisy... I see green is your colour of the moment... And your usual switching of lower to upper case... Wow!

WOW, alright...thanks again for more points
to educate folk about !

"Paranoia" is when you see plots that are NOT THERE.

"Hypocrisy" is PRETENDING to be who/what you are NOT.


Me, I AM ME, STILL HERE for ANYONE to FIND & QUIZ.
Still fighting with a HACKED SICK Old p.c. that OFTEN
causes my posts to NOT APPEAR as I'VE posted or as I
WANT to post, so I make do, and occasionally apologise
for the messiness, explaining why.

But aside from all that, I DO CHANGE MY 'style' BECAUSE
I AM A REAL INDIVIDUAL, NOT a 'Bot' or ACTOR trying to
"KEEP IN CHARACTER", and so I enjoy the FREEDOM of
expressing SEASONAL changes and PERSONAL moods.

And as for my use of upper and lower case, it's simply
quicker and easier on my SICK p.c. than to BOLD and
UNDERLINE KEY POINTS...and God Knows I have enough
Posting Time STOLEN through countless little 'hack attacks'!
...

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Originally Posted by vera susa The heir and the spare: royal brothers plot future Why Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. Heir and the spare: royal brothers plot future ANDREW PIERCE November 24, 2009 - 3:53PM Princes William and Harry .... in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. Photo: Getty Images When Prince Harry, proud in the red-collared coat of the Household Cavalry, laid a wreath at the Cenotaph for the first time on Remembrance Sunday it was another milestone in his coming of age as a senior member of the Royal family. Unusually, he took precedence over Prince William, a future King, because he was representing their father, who was overseas with the Duchess of Cornwall. But now the two princes have planted the first seeds of a long public partnership with the creation of the "Charity Foundation of Prince William and Prince Harry". The venture underlines the closeness of the two brothers in a family not noted for its intimacy. The Queen's four children rarely see each other socially and never joined forces on specific charitable ventures like the one set up by Prince William and Prince Harry, which has been registered at the Charity Commission. The brothers were always close but the devastating death of their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales 12 years ago cemented their dependency on each other. They are living together under the same roof for the first time since they were teenagers, while they train at RAF Shawbury - Prince Harry to fly Apache attack helicopters with the Army Air Corps and Prince William to become a search-and-rescue pilot with the RAF. Their decision to give at least a third of all the money raised by the foundation to the welfare of the military, a cause championed by their father and grandmother, will resonate with the public - a point not lost on their advisers. The foundation is the most significant expansion of their public profiles. The truth is that both Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. For the first time since the reign of Queen Victoria both "the heir and the spare" are healthy adults. Never before has there been a Prince of Wales as old as Prince Charles, the longest-serving heir to the throne. The Queen, at 83, shows little sign of slowing down. Prince William knows his own position could also last decades if his father's health is as robust as his grandmother's. It is why, at 27 and 25 respectively, the princes are already plotting their future. They both want to avoid the mistakes made by their father, who spent decades agonising about his role and purpose in public life. The foundation will not just be a fitting testament to the legacy of their mother; it is also a sign that the princes are ahead of their father at the same stage in their apprenticeships. The Prince of Wales set up the Prince's Trust, his first charitable venture, with his $13,400 severance pay from the Royal Navy, while Prince William and Prince Harry could each have another decade in the forces. Both the Queen and Prince of Wales hope the foundation is a further sign that the princes have become more comfortable about the unenviable prospect of devoting their entire lives to public duty in the often unforgiving eye of the media. Prince Harry, in particular, still blames the media for the death of his mother, her car pursued by the Paris paparazzi into the Alma tunnel. The expansion of their charitable ventures is also shrewd public relations. Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at Oxford University, said: "When the Queen came to the throne, about a third of the population thought that the monarchy had been ordained by God. They don't think like that now and they want it to be a utilitarian institution which has to justify itself and to show the monarchy is relevant and practical. It's why the princes have embarked on this course. "It's not easy. There is no prescribed role for the heir to the throne, let alone the son of the heir and his brother. The Prince of Wales has become the first to find a proper role for himself and Prince William is clearly following in his footsteps." A number of decisions have already been taken by the young princes. They will studiously avoid courting political controversy, unlike their father who at 22 was questioning Harold Wilson's government over the fate of Atlantic salmon years before declining fish stocks figured on the political agenda. In the ensuing four decades or so as the warm-up act to the Queen, the Prince of Wales has been demonised as the adulterer in his disastrous marriage, criticised for meddling in government affairs and attacked as a hypocrite who does not practise what he preaches on climate change because of his lavish lifestyle and penchant for flying the world in chartered jets. It is significant that Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the princes' increasingly influential private secretary, is a trustee of the charity. He is helping to plan a more structured career path for them. When Prince William leaves the RAF he will go on secondment to Parliament, probably in the Speaker's Office, to learn about the drafting of Bills, the parliamentary timetable, and the traditions of the Palace of Westminster, where he will one day make the King's speech. He will also work in one of the Inns of Court alongside barristers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and judges. "He will be head of the judiciary one day so he wants to have an understanding of it," said one aide. He will also spend time working with his charities. There is the possibility of a diplomatic posting such as Governor-General of Australia or Canada for either of the princes. Their father was linked to the Canberra post in the 1970s. There would be advantages to a posting in Australia where Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, is an avowed republican. It is one reason why Prince William is representing the monarch for the first time overseas next year in New Zealand and Australia, the most far flung parts of her realm. But diplomatic baubles are not in the gift of Clarence House. "They are a matter for the Australian and Canadian governments. It would not be appropriate for the Royal family to say Prince William or Prince Harry is up for the job," an adviser said. "However, if they were to offer it would be given very serious consideration." Over the years, Prince William has taken soundings from a number of eminent figures, including Dr David Starkey, the historian, whose books on Henry VIII and Elizabeth I have been turned into successful television series. They both talk endlessly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who has been a valuable source of advice. One friend said: "No matter how good the advisers in the inner-circle, the Queen and Prince of Wales give the best possible wise counsel." Both princes have become closer to their father since the death of their mother and have observed his restlessness, which was on show as recently as last November in a documentary to mark his 60th birthday. When asked if he enjoyed his job, he replied: "Bits of it." It was their father who encouraged them to stay in the protective custody of the RAF and the Household Calvary, where they can lead a life as close as possible to normal, albeit with protection officers by their side for 24 hours a day. Unlike other members of the Royal family, they do not have equerries to lay out their clothes and they do their own ironing in the rented cottage they share near RAF Shawbury in Shropshire. The flunkeys who will wait upon them hand and foot (and who will be officers they have worked alongside) will not arrive until they go back to civilian life. Already attitudes are changing; these days most people address them as Prince William and Prince Harry or Your Royal Highness. While they don't object to being called just William or Harry, even some staff who previously used their Christian names now address them by their titles. It is another sign that they are turning into central figures in the House of Windsor, exactly as the Queen and Prince of Wales intended. In 18 months, the new foundation will be giving out grants, ensuring that Prince William and Prince Harry increasingly hog the limelight at the expense of older members of the Royal family, including their father. It is ironic, then, that for years the princes, who were the most reluctant members of the Royal family - not least because of the manner of the death of their mother - are now seen as the best assets of the House of Windsor. The foundation is another sign that the princes have started thinking about how they can live up to their billing as the future of the House of Windsor. London Telegraph

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Originally Posted by palomino Hey Vera Susa I might have a clue! Today's poll http://www.2ue.com.au/ Radio Station in Australia 2UE Webpoll GG Princes Would you be happy to have Prince Harry or Prince William as our next Govenor General? Yes 53% No 46%

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Originally Posted by vera susa Oh how funny! So in this season when: BALLARAT BASE Hospital becomes part of St John of God CATHOLIC Hospital and BALLARAT University becomes part of The CATHOLIC University and we're told of A CATHOLIC Chapel IN THE ROYAL ANGLICAN Cathedral and The CATHOLIC Church IS "TAKING BACK" ANGLICANS we're WELCOMING "HOLY ROYAL PRINCES" HOME... is when I'm being RANTED AT for reminding readers that I've pointed at all this all along

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Originally Posted by vera susa Right, so we've had another round of NWO AGENTS playing silly buggers for want of counter arguments, tugging at peoples National Pride and Fear and Loathing of Government, in an attempt to replace Logical Thinking with EMOTIONAL RESPONSES and so keep them BLIND to The SECRET 'They' HIDE. AUSTRALIA. GOD DESCRIBED IT, From The Beginning. GOD didn't lie about this Land. GOD didn't lie about Anything. GOD'S Promises STILL STAND. And that IS THE BEST NEWS. Oh sure, there is NOWHERE on Earth that isn't suffering the results of corruptions that poison and kill, but NO ONE can deny that it hasn't got worse the further we've leaned away from Our Father's Loving Advice and trusted man to 'save' us. But again, only more evidence of what HE WARNED. To help get your head around THE BIGNESS of The TRUTH, simply use that 'GLOBAL VILLAGE' idea and think of Australia as THE HOSPITAL during a Time of War...suffering to, but DEVOTEDLY PRESERVED. But our Very FEW 'Capital' CITIES do need 'Thinning', Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by vera susa Dumplings move in on Melbourne; chaos expected * John Lethlean and Necia Wilden * From: The Australian * November 24, 2009 12:00AM DUMPLING fever grips the eastern seaboard. While Sydney has its branch of international chain Din Tai Fung, Melbourne's slightly sexier equivalent, Hutong Dumpling Bar, is about to open a second branch in Prahran. Hutong, opposite Melbourne's venerable Flower Drum, has been swamped since opening earlier this year. The Commercial Road branch due to open next week will include duck ovens. Expect chaos and great Shanghai food. IT sometimes seems Australia's best food is outside the big cities. In Tasmania, Daniel Alps in the Tamar Valley (see The Weekend Australian Magazine, December 5) is probably the state's finest restaurant and now The 2010 Adelaide Food Guide has awarded restaurant of the year to a regional champion: Fino, at Willunga. "We love real food that tastes like real food, fresh, exciting and expressing flavour first rather than fashion and design," said the judges. On the basis of a visit last week, we agree. Melburnians may remember chef David Swain at St Kilda's Veludo in the 1990s; seems he has made the right decision returning to regional South Australia. cont: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225802270327 This is an odd little report in that putting KEY words and PHRASES together that PROMOTE THIS LAND of PLENTY, while WARNING of "SHANGHAI" CHAOS, ARE "THE STORY"...further told in this mornings News here... </td> </tr> </table> our Regional Cities and COUNTRY Towns need Infrastructure Development and RE-POPULATING and our OVER 40% WILDERNESS DOES NEED WELL MANAGED DEVELOPMENT. But we do NOT want "FOREIGN COUNTRIES" sprouting in those currently too empty lands, so, we NEED to ESTABLISH AUSTRALIAN populations in those areas... and one way is to simply TEMPT people OUT of their lounge rooms and OUT to SEE and FALL IN LOVE with All of This Most Glorious Land... Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares Flights snapped up as Tiger Airways offers $2 fares By Kate Schneider news.com.au November 24, 2009 07:24am Tiger Airways Tiger Airways is offering $2 fares for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast / Supplied TIGER Airways is offering $2 airfares today to celebrate the airline's second birthday in Australia. There are currently 2000 tickets available for travel on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between May 5 and September 10 next year. The fares apply for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast. It includes taxes and charges but is subject to a $6 fee per sector if booked with a credit card. It includes hand luggage of up to seven kilograms only. All bookings are non-refundable and non-transferable. The sale ends tonight or until sold out. Sexy when wet for Top End tourism By Nigel Adlam Northern Territory News November 24, 2009 08:09am TOURISTS are learning that the wet season is sexy, a leading Territory tourism figure said. Top End Tourism president Sylvia Wolf said visitors loved watching the pavements steam after rain. ”It's very sensual,” she said. “Our wet season song should be Singing in the Rain. Ms Wolf said the big drop-off in tourist numbers at the end of the Dry had not been anywhere near as sharp as usual this year. She said this was because of years of hard work educating people about the glories of the monsoon. Ms Wolf said Darwin had much to offer during the wet season – lushness, fantastic storms and reasonably priced accommodation. ”Now that we've got more accommodation, the rates are more reasonable. ”There's no ripping off the poor old tourists with inflated prices.” Ms Wolf said the spectacular success of the $100 million Darwin Convention Centre had helped change the tourism season. The season used to start in April and end abruptly in September. The Territory Government and tourism industry began promoting the “shoulder” months – April-May and September-October – a few years ago. And now they are pushing the joys of the Wet. ”A lot of people think you can't get around during the wet season, but that's not true,” Ms Wolf said. ”We're educating people and many are not so afraid to come here during the Wet.” About 50 southern rural travel agents visited Darwin earlier last month and were pleasantly surprised at the weather and sophistication of the city. Bookings are already coming through from that initial familiarisation tour.

Last edited by merlincove; 26-11-2009 at 02:08 PM.
Reason: Questioning members' identities

(oh and, 'nice' of 'them' to admit 'they' edit my posts,
FOR ASKING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!, so while it is worth
reading on, please know 'they' deliberately make my posts,
harder to make clear sense of, than I originally try to write them.)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin.
So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.


The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."

See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM

Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.

true lilly wrote:
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA
Severe storm warning for Victoria

6:27AM
Nathan Mawby
UPDATE 7am:
STORMS and lightning sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau
warning the worst is yet to come.

true lilly wrote:
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA
Severe storm warning for Victoria

6:27AM
Nathan Mawby
UPDATE 7am:
STORMS and lightning
sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau
warning the worst is yet to come.

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:Well, like most of my posts, the images have been removed
(mostly because I let those KEY Images, 'do most of the talking'),
but this page is timely and relevant now...as others have noticed
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

The following is only a little of what is relevant now
(much more at the link),
but I include it as, we also,
NOW have The Situation -
AFTER THE QUEEN HOSTED CHOGM
(COMMONWEALTH HEADS of GOVERNMENT MEETING)
IN AUSTRALIA -
that NOT ONLY CAN a
FEMALE INHERIT THE BRITISH CROWN
AHEAD of a Younger Male,
BUT, CATHOLICS ARE NO LONGER EXCLUDED!

Royal girls to get equal shot at crown - World news - Europe ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../royal-girls-get-equal-shot-crow... - United States
28 Oct 2011 – First-born daughters will have new right to inherit the throne ... able to pass her crown to her firstborn, Britain's Princess Victoria would have had ...

CatholicHerald.co.uk | Breaking news and opinion from the online ...
www.catholicherald.co.uk/
2 hours ago – Ban on British monarch marrying a Catholic to be lifted ...

The prince is a direct descendant of
Anne, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange,
eldest daughter of British King George II.
However, under the British Act of Settlement,
Prince Willem-Alexander forfeited his (distant)
succession rights to the throne
of the United Kingdom,
because he married a Roman Catholic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander,_Prince_of_Orange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A1xima_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Claus_of_the_Netherlands

tintin wrote:30-05-2008,


The great Deception.
The Anti-christ is the great Deception.
All about "appearance" and empty hollow words that LOOK
to be honest but are the
opposite.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is the great DECEIVER.[/size]

Máxima and her husband
at the White House,
11 September 2009.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthony1965 You take paranoia to new heights Vera... Just as you do with hypocrisy... I see green is your colour of the moment... And your usual switching of lower to upper case... Wow!

WOW, alright...thanks again for more points
to educate folk about !

"Paranoia" is when you see plots that are NOT THERE.

"Hypocrisy" is PRETENDING to be who/what you are NOT.


Me, I AM ME, STILL HERE for ANYONE to FIND & QUIZ.
Still fighting with a HACKED SICK Old p.c. that OFTEN
causes my posts to NOT APPEAR as I'VE posted or as I
WANT to post, so I make do, and occasionally apologise
for the messiness, explaining why.

But aside from all that, I DO CHANGE MY 'style' BECAUSE
I AM A REAL INDIVIDUAL, NOT a 'Bot' or ACTOR trying to
"KEEP IN CHARACTER", and so I enjoy the FREEDOM of
expressing SEASONAL changes and PERSONAL moods.

And as for my use of upper and lower case, it's simply
quicker and easier on my SICK p.c. than to BOLD and
UNDERLINE KEY POINTS...and God Knows I have enough
Posting Time STOLEN through countless little 'hack attacks'!
...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa The heir and the spare: royal brothers plot future Why Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. Heir and the spare: royal brothers plot future ANDREW PIERCE November 24, 2009 - 3:53PM Princes William and Harry .... in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. Photo: Getty Images When Prince Harry, proud in the red-collared coat of the Household Cavalry, laid a wreath at the Cenotaph for the first time on Remembrance Sunday it was another milestone in his coming of age as a senior member of the Royal family. Unusually, he took precedence over Prince William, a future King, because he was representing their father, who was overseas with the Duchess of Cornwall. But now the two princes have planted the first seeds of a long public partnership with the creation of the "Charity Foundation of Prince William and Prince Harry". The venture underlines the closeness of the two brothers in a family not noted for its intimacy. The Queen's four children rarely see each other socially and never joined forces on specific charitable ventures like the one set up by Prince William and Prince Harry, which has been registered at the Charity Commission. The brothers were always close but the devastating death of their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales 12 years ago cemented their dependency on each other. They are living together under the same roof for the first time since they were teenagers, while they train at RAF Shawbury - Prince Harry to fly Apache attack helicopters with the Army Air Corps and Prince William to become a search-and-rescue pilot with the RAF. Their decision to give at least a third of all the money raised by the foundation to the welfare of the military, a cause championed by their father and grandmother, will resonate with the public - a point not lost on their advisers. The foundation is the most significant expansion of their public profiles. The truth is that both Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy. For the first time since the reign of Queen Victoria both "the heir and the spare" are healthy adults. Never before has there been a Prince of Wales as old as Prince Charles, the longest-serving heir to the throne. The Queen, at 83, shows little sign of slowing down. Prince William knows his own position could also last decades if his father's health is as robust as his grandmother's. It is why, at 27 and 25 respectively, the princes are already plotting their future. They both want to avoid the mistakes made by their father, who spent decades agonising about his role and purpose in public life. The foundation will not just be a fitting testament to the legacy of their mother; it is also a sign that the princes are ahead of their father at the same stage in their apprenticeships. The Prince of Wales set up the Prince's Trust, his first charitable venture, with his $13,400 severance pay from the Royal Navy, while Prince William and Prince Harry could each have another decade in the forces. Both the Queen and Prince of Wales hope the foundation is a further sign that the princes have become more comfortable about the unenviable prospect of devoting their entire lives to public duty in the often unforgiving eye of the media. Prince Harry, in particular, still blames the media for the death of his mother, her car pursued by the Paris paparazzi into the Alma tunnel. The expansion of their charitable ventures is also shrewd public relations. Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at Oxford University, said: "When the Queen came to the throne, about a third of the population thought that the monarchy had been ordained by God. They don't think like that now and they want it to be a utilitarian institution which has to justify itself and to show the monarchy is relevant and practical. It's why the princes have embarked on this course. "It's not easy. There is no prescribed role for the heir to the throne, let alone the son of the heir and his brother. The Prince of Wales has become the first to find a proper role for himself and Prince William is clearly following in his footsteps." A number of decisions have already been taken by the young princes. They will studiously avoid courting political controversy, unlike their father who at 22 was questioning Harold Wilson's government over the fate of Atlantic salmon years before declining fish stocks figured on the political agenda. In the ensuing four decades or so as the warm-up act to the Queen, the Prince of Wales has been demonised as the adulterer in his disastrous marriage, criticised for meddling in government affairs and attacked as a hypocrite who does not practise what he preaches on climate change because of his lavish lifestyle and penchant for flying the world in chartered jets. It is significant that Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the princes' increasingly influential private secretary, is a trustee of the charity. He is helping to plan a more structured career path for them. When Prince William leaves the RAF he will go on secondment to Parliament, probably in the Speaker's Office, to learn about the drafting of Bills, the parliamentary timetable, and the traditions of the Palace of Westminster, where he will one day make the King's speech. He will also work in one of the Inns of Court alongside barristers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and judges. "He will be head of the judiciary one day so he wants to have an understanding of it," said one aide. He will also spend time working with his charities. There is the possibility of a diplomatic posting such as Governor-General of Australia or Canada for either of the princes. Their father was linked to the Canberra post in the 1970s. There would be advantages to a posting in Australia where Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, is an avowed republican. It is one reason why Prince William is representing the monarch for the first time overseas next year in New Zealand and Australia, the most far flung parts of her realm. But diplomatic baubles are not in the gift of Clarence House. "They are a matter for the Australian and Canadian governments. It would not be appropriate for the Royal family to say Prince William or Prince Harry is up for the job," an adviser said. "However, if they were to offer it would be given very serious consideration." Over the years, Prince William has taken soundings from a number of eminent figures, including Dr David Starkey, the historian, whose books on Henry VIII and Elizabeth I have been turned into successful television series. They both talk endlessly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who has been a valuable source of advice. One friend said: "No matter how good the advisers in the inner-circle, the Queen and Prince of Wales give the best possible wise counsel." Both princes have become closer to their father since the death of their mother and have observed his restlessness, which was on show as recently as last November in a documentary to mark his 60th birthday. When asked if he enjoyed his job, he replied: "Bits of it." It was their father who encouraged them to stay in the protective custody of the RAF and the Household Calvary, where they can lead a life as close as possible to normal, albeit with protection officers by their side for 24 hours a day. Unlike other members of the Royal family, they do not have equerries to lay out their clothes and they do their own ironing in the rented cottage they share near RAF Shawbury in Shropshire. The flunkeys who will wait upon them hand and foot (and who will be officers they have worked alongside) will not arrive until they go back to civilian life. Already attitudes are changing; these days most people address them as Prince William and Prince Harry or Your Royal Highness. While they don't object to being called just William or Harry, even some staff who previously used their Christian names now address them by their titles. It is another sign that they are turning into central figures in the House of Windsor, exactly as the Queen and Prince of Wales intended. In 18 months, the new foundation will be giving out grants, ensuring that Prince William and Prince Harry increasingly hog the limelight at the expense of older members of the Royal family, including their father. It is ironic, then, that for years the princes, who were the most reluctant members of the Royal family - not least because of the manner of the death of their mother - are now seen as the best assets of the House of Windsor. The foundation is another sign that the princes have started thinking about how they can live up to their billing as the future of the House of Windsor. London Telegraph

Quote:

Originally Posted by palomino Hey Vera Susa I might have a clue! Today's poll http://www.2ue.com.au/ Radio Station in Australia 2UE Webpoll GG Princes Would you be happy to have Prince Harry or Prince William as our next Govenor General? Yes 53% No 46%

Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa Oh how funny! So in this season when: BALLARAT BASE Hospital becomes part of St John of God CATHOLIC Hospital and BALLARAT University becomes part of The CATHOLIC University and we're told of A CATHOLIC Chapel IN THE ROYAL ANGLICAN Cathedral and The CATHOLIC Church IS "TAKING BACK" ANGLICANS we're WELCOMING "HOLY ROYAL PRINCES" HOME... is when I'm being RANTED AT for reminding readers that I've pointed at all this all along

Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa Right, so we've had another round of NWO AGENTS playing silly buggers for want of counter arguments, tugging at peoples National Pride and Fear and Loathing of Government, in an attempt to replace Logical Thinking with EMOTIONAL RESPONSES and so keep them BLIND to The SECRET 'They' HIDE. AUSTRALIA. GOD DESCRIBED IT, From The Beginning. GOD didn't lie about this Land. GOD didn't lie about Anything. GOD'S Promises STILL STAND. And that IS THE BEST NEWS. Oh sure, there is NOWHERE on Earth that isn't suffering the results of corruptions that poison and kill, but NO ONE can deny that it hasn't got worse the further we've leaned away from Our Father's Loving Advice and trusted man to 'save' us. But again, only more evidence of what HE WARNED. To help get your head around THE BIGNESS of The TRUTH, simply use that 'GLOBAL VILLAGE' idea and think of Australia as THE HOSPITAL during a Time of War...suffering to, but DEVOTEDLY PRESERVED. But our Very FEW 'Capital' CITIES do need 'Thinning', Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by vera susa Dumplings move in on Melbourne; chaos expected * John Lethlean and Necia Wilden * From: The Australian * November 24, 2009 12:00AM DUMPLING fever grips the eastern seaboard. While Sydney has its branch of international chain Din Tai Fung, Melbourne's slightly sexier equivalent, Hutong Dumpling Bar, is about to open a second branch in Prahran. Hutong, opposite Melbourne's venerable Flower Drum, has been swamped since opening earlier this year. The Commercial Road branch due to open next week will include duck ovens. Expect chaos and great Shanghai food. IT sometimes seems Australia's best food is outside the big cities. In Tasmania, Daniel Alps in the Tamar Valley (see The Weekend Australian Magazine, December 5) is probably the state's finest restaurant and now The 2010 Adelaide Food Guide has awarded restaurant of the year to a regional champion: Fino, at Willunga. "We love real food that tastes like real food, fresh, exciting and expressing flavour first rather than fashion and design," said the judges. On the basis of a visit last week, we agree. Melburnians may remember chef David Swain at St Kilda's Veludo in the 1990s; seems he has made the right decision returning to regional South Australia. cont: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225802270327 This is an odd little report in that putting KEY words and PHRASES together that PROMOTE THIS LAND of PLENTY, while WARNING of "SHANGHAI" CHAOS, ARE "THE STORY"...further told in this mornings News here... </td> </tr> </table> our Regional Cities and COUNTRY Towns need Infrastructure Development and RE-POPULATING and our OVER 40% WILDERNESS DOES NEED WELL MANAGED DEVELOPMENT. But we do NOT want "FOREIGN COUNTRIES" sprouting in those currently too empty lands, so, we NEED to ESTABLISH AUSTRALIAN populations in those areas... and one way is to simply TEMPT people OUT of their lounge rooms and OUT to SEE and FALL IN LOVE with All of This Most Glorious Land... Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares Flights snapped up as Tiger Airways offers $2 fares By Kate Schneider news.com.au November 24, 2009 07:24am Tiger Airways Tiger Airways is offering $2 fares for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast / Supplied TIGER Airways is offering $2 airfares today to celebrate the airline's second birthday in Australia. There are currently 2000 tickets available for travel on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between May 5 and September 10 next year. The fares apply for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast. It includes taxes and charges but is subject to a $6 fee per sector if booked with a credit card. It includes hand luggage of up to seven kilograms only. All bookings are non-refundable and non-transferable. The sale ends tonight or until sold out. Sexy when wet for Top End tourism By Nigel Adlam Northern Territory News November 24, 2009 08:09am TOURISTS are learning that the wet season is sexy, a leading Territory tourism figure said. Top End Tourism president Sylvia Wolf said visitors loved watching the pavements steam after rain. ”It's very sensual,” she said. “Our wet season song should be Singing in the Rain. Ms Wolf said the big drop-off in tourist numbers at the end of the Dry had not been anywhere near as sharp as usual this year. She said this was because of years of hard work educating people about the glories of the monsoon. Ms Wolf said Darwin had much to offer during the wet season – lushness, fantastic storms and reasonably priced accommodation. ”Now that we've got more accommodation, the rates are more reasonable. ”There's no ripping off the poor old tourists with inflated prices.” Ms Wolf said the spectacular success of the $100 million Darwin Convention Centre had helped change the tourism season. The season used to start in April and end abruptly in September. The Territory Government and tourism industry began promoting the “shoulder” months – April-May and September-October – a few years ago. And now they are pushing the joys of the Wet. ”A lot of people think you can't get around during the wet season, but that's not true,” Ms Wolf said. ”We're educating people and many are not so afraid to come here during the Wet.” About 50 southern rural travel agents visited Darwin earlier last month and were pleasantly surprised at the weather and sophistication of the city. Bookings are already coming through from that initial familiarisation tour.

Last edited by merlincove; 26-11-2009 at 02:08 PM.
Reason: Questioning members' identities

(oh and, 'nice' of 'them' to admit 'they' edit my posts,
FOR ASKING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!, so while it is worth
reading on, please know 'they' deliberately make my posts,
harder to make clear sense of, than I originally try to write them.)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

true lilly wrote:

true lilly wrote:"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin.
So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.


The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

• Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
  
  
• From:News Limited newspapers
  
  
• July 28, 2011
  
  
• 17 comments
  

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."

See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM

Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.