Re: David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA

Billy Ruben Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:21 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:First intelligent news you've reported in years.Even a crackpot like you,gets the idea,the way forward,is to mimic,re-create,natural phenomenon and physics,don't expect me to agree to often though,way ahead of you madam.Were you ever familiar with the wide-bodied aircraft designs of Brunelli?Much safer,fuel efficient and need shorter runways,but do go on madam,I'm sure you won't understand this screen capture,nor did the hospitsl porter niether.
Of course 'Billy Ruben',
who BOASTS of LUSTING AFTER CHILDREN, and
USING PART Aboriginal blood and MENTAL 'illness'
to GET AWAY WITH CRIMINAL ACTS
WOULD POST THAT HERE,
where I post SERIOUS NEWS Like THIS:

You do not post serious news,you make baseless slander,then post news items supporting your slander.So,I get away with crimes do I,spose you were disappointed with Taree Polices lack of will,eh?I know you've been up to dirty tricks,but they don't work,do they.Niether do mine either.Cause you'd be in a psyche ward by now.You need assessment and care.

Billy Ruben wrote:I want an answer true Lilly,why does Atlantabizgirl cover up for baby rapist???

Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
And Moderator

atlantabizgal, QUACKS LIKE THE QUACKS WHO
FUCK, TORTURE and COVER UP FOR OTHERS
WHO FUCK and TORTURE BABIES.

See, "THEY" ALL AVOID THE FACT, that,
LIKE CORI,
THAT CHILD RAPIST BOASTED OF HIS EVILS,
TO HIS FELLOW VIOLENT CRIMINALS,
that HE KNEW, PUNISH CHILD RAPISTS.

Which means only two things:
1- he believed he was "untouchable".
A valuable lesson for all such fools.

2- he didn't want to live with himself anymore.
He got the (temporary) relief he begged for.

That's a pretty big call dragging the new kid on the block,labelling Atlantabizgirl a baby rapist,now how did she earn your wrath today.Did she say something to an evil sockpuppet you have hidden at DIF,was there unwarranted spam,in the form of a valid question?
Please,enthrall me with your conclusion and reasons...

Billy Ruben wrote:atlantabizgal
Moderator

Look at those eyes,how could you say these things True Lilly,there will be tears spilled for this,mark my words...

True Lilly,you just can't say these things about anybody that takes your displeasure,which,as it turns out,is very easy to do.But just because you had a bad uncle who payed late night visits with bourbon smelling breath,does'nt mean you're a child abuse specialist nor counsellor,please refrain in future,making unfounded accusations,that is all for now.

There is one thing to consider though True Lilly,everyone you picked on is either English,Dutch or Aussie.Ciggy,don't count,he's demon,but you're picking on an American Woman now,slandering her name,accusing her of heinous atrocities,
complicity in the rape and cover-up of minors.Madam,they use the court system,over there,to resolve differences and you sounding like this,in the below video,you maybe actually be ghetto ratting in a government house,unlike what I really believe,you're head mole of a Nazi Biker Death Squad,You may,under scutiny of the courts,be deemed,a type of insanity and end up institutionalised for your very own good...and everybody elses.

wacky

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:True Lilly,how do you run a successful fund raiser?
I did a "Save Billys Arse Appeal",not a fucking cent I saw,hoping to raise cash for an escape to Holland.

I have'nt got a car.I need a car.Preferabley a special variant,in mickey mouse condition,cared for and cheap.

How do I scam people to buy me this car,cause I need a car and don't want to pay for it?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOLDEN-COMMODORE-1992-VP-WAGON-WHITE-V6-AUTO-AIR-CON-VN-VR-VS-VT-HSV-/250901869559?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3a6aeab3f7

Billy needs car....please help Billy.

I really just don't have the dosh off hand,that's all...nice beast with excellent suspension...

true lilly Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:08 am

true lilly wrote:Oh dear, I see 'that name'
is at again, demanding folk put the myths, philosophies and religions
of man...that btw, HAVE NEVER SAVED A SINGLE SOUL, BUT HAVE DESTROYED
EVERY ONCE 'GREAT' NATION that ADDICTED THEMSELVES TO SLAVISHLY FOLLOWING...
above THE LAWS of PHYSICS=LAWS of The Creator of WHAT IS.

So best wash away their ranting filth, with some sweet living waters of LIFE.

true lilly wrote: ahh...God's 'timing'...just after that last post,
"DAZZLING BLUE" started playing, and brought to mind
the quote and recent News I posted (below), then while
on the phone with a friend, "HEARTS & BONES" started.

So here, some more from 'that little Jew' who also KNOWS
that it's a much longer, older and more beautiful story,
that God's Living Word, Truly, sings To The Living Spirits.

Dazzling Blue
https://youtu.be/tCT0zLHPY9s
Truth or lie, the silence is revealing
An empty sky, a hidden mound of stone
But the CAT scan’s eye sees what the heart’s concealing
Now-a-days, when everything is known

Maybe love’s an accident, or destiny is true
But you and I were born beneath a star of dazzling blue
Dazzling blue

Miles apart, though the miles can’t measure distance
Worlds apart on a rainy afternoon
But the road gets dirty and it offers no resistance
So turn your amp up and play your lonesome tune

Maybe love’s an accident, or destiny is true
But you and I were born beneath a star of dazzling blue
Dazzling blue

Dazzling blue, roses red, fine white linen
To make a marriage bed
And we’ll build a wall that nothing can break through
And dream our dreams of dazzling blue

Sweet July, and we drove the Montauk Highway
And walked along the cliffs above the sea
And we wondered why, and imagined it was someday
And that is how the future came to be

Dazzling blue, roses red, fine white linen
To make a marriage bed
And we’ll build a wall that nothing can break through
And dream our dreams of dazzling blue

Our Stonehenge uncovered
Peter Begg | September 2nd, 2011

This secret Aborginal site near the You Yangs
seems to be an astronomical marker.

A SECRET Aboriginal sacred site
just north of the You Yangs
is at the centre of a land battle.

The stone circle, said to be older than Stonehenge, is an astronomical marker.
Its two straighter sides point to where the sun rises on the shortest and longest days
of the year.
Stonehenge dates from about 2500 BC, and the earliest pyramid in Egypt was built
from about 2630 BC,
suggesting the local Aborigines could have been
the world's first astronomers.
continued at:
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/09/02/276481_news.html

...and now, from the year my first child was born...
Hearts and Bones
(1982)- Paul Simon
https://youtu.be/eA7I_t2sMvw
One and one-half wandering Jews
Free to wander wherever they choose
Are travelling together
In the Sangre de Cristo
The Blood of Christ Mountains
Of New Mexico
On the last leg of the journey
They started a long time ago
The arc of a love affair
Rainbows in the high desert air
Mountain passes slipping into stones
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
Thinking back to the season before
Looking back through the
cracks in the door
Two people were married
The act was outrageous
The bride was contagious
She burned like a bride
These events may have
had some effect
On the man with the girl by his side
The arc of a love affair
His hands rolling down her hair
Love like lightning
shaking till it moans
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
And whoa whoa whoa
She said:
Why?
Why don't we drive through the night
We'll wake up down in Mexico
Oh I
I don't know nothin'
about nothin' about
No Mexico
And tell me why
Why won't you love me
For who I am
Where I am
He said:
'Cause that's not the way
the world is baby
This is how I love you, baby
This is how I love you, baby
One and one-half wandering Jews
Return to their natural coasts
To resume old acquaintances
Step out occasionally
And speculate who had
been damaged the most
Easy time will determine if
these consolations
Will be their reward
The arc of a love affair
Waiting to be restored
You take two bodies and you
twirl them into one
Their hearts and their bones
And they won't come undone
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
Hearts and bones
true lilly wrote:WOW!

Who is online?
In total there are 21 users online :
: 1 Registered,
1 Hidden and
19 Guests :
: 2 Bots
Most users ever online was
267 on Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:34 pm
Registered Users: true lilly
Bots : bing, Google

What's happening here? I know some Key points
were being made here and on related sites, back
in June and July, that many a 'bad guy' would
have rather been kept under cover, that accounts
for that surge in readers, but it seems the days of
my constantly finding myself alone or with a couple
or few here, are long gone.

Yet still, except for the, "I just gotta spew vile shit
at the world", 'names' that belong to Professional,
Forum Manipulators, these now regular readers,
are not coming here to post, but indeed, to read, to
See, to Hear...something, they know will regularly
appear, that is worth giving their time to.

So, for any who know giving time to empty (but
for stupidly vile), lying posters, is stupid, and so
do now come for insightful and edifying posts, I
offer a bit of 'Soul Food', to take to heart and
keep in mind, when reading some of the 'harder',
yet, loving, warning posts, I do care to 'put there'
for anyone who chooses to consider their content,
and the bitterly hateful responses they get from
'those', Professional Forum manipulators.

true lilly wrote:Dazzling Blue
https://youtu.be/tCT0zLHPY9s

How Can You Live In The Northeast?
https://youtu.be/kwgHwoimNWY

The Afterlife by Paul Simon
https://youtu.be/GLDQZYQYFiQ
FULL LYRICS INCLUDED.
As usual, Paul Simon dazzles us with his clever songwriting.
This is from his latest album "So Beautiful or So What".
In the same spirit as Simon, what more can I say than
"Be bop-a-lula,
ooh poppa do"........

REWRITE - Paul Simon - Lyrics On Screen
https://youtu.be/3UygiBWXTO0

Hearts and Bones/With Lyrics
(1982)- Paul Simon
https://youtu.be/eA7I_t2sMvw
Trolling Tarts, gotta wonder how so few see through them...
I didn't realize this was my last post here, when I came to reply to
(yes we all know 'they' Troll here ), that thing, 'nobodyswife':
nobodyswife wrote:12-09-2011, 04:09 PM
#31005

Yesterday in New-York for the tenth anniversary of 9-11 Paul Simon sang "
Sound of silence" instead of "Bridge on the water" as was advertised in
the program.
I don't think this is meaningless.
Here's a couple of lines.
and the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made ( idol worshipping).................
And the sign said: " The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls"
What do prophets, all of them prophetize about ? End of times

One: prophets WARN OF, SO AS TO SAVE FROM,
disasters and worse, The Second, Permanent Death.

Two: the times that end, are the Death Contaminated times
of Demonic Rule.

Three: the demonic death worshipers keep deceiving the world
by leaving out the edifying, saving details found throughout God's
Living Word that His prophets and watchmen are always calling
out to us.

Four: one needs to desire, above all else, to seek and receive,
The Holy Spirit of Truth, in order to Hear, Understandingly, what
it says.

Five: LIFE, sans death, goes on, for The Living;
those who don't reject The Holy Spirit of Truth.

Paul Simon -
The Sound of Silence
9/11 Ground Zero
https://youtu.be/3np0DMxXKzM
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in
my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence
In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turn my collar to the cold and
damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the
flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices
never shared
No one dared
Disturb the sound of silence
"Fools," said I, "you do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach
you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words like silent raindrops
fell
And echoed in the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said
"The words of the
prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sound of silence"
Bridge Over Troubled Water
https://youtu.be/H_a46WJ1viA
When you're weary, feeling small
When tears are in your eyes,
I will dry them all
I'm on your side
When times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part
When darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Sail on silver girl
Sail on by
Your time has come to shine
All your dreams are on their way
See how they shine
When you need a friend
I'm sailing right behind
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind

Six: it is the beastly, demonic death worshipers, who Always Threaten the world with
"the end" of life for all who refuse to bow to 'their' worldly, demonic religious 'powers',
because 'they' ARE TERRIFIED of The End of INJUSTICE by which 'they' maintain 'their'
worldly, and crumbling 'power'.
P.S. 'technically', I'm born, raised and married Catholic,
but Never "bought it", even to the point of having the
priest who married us, agree first, that I would NOT put
Church doctrine above teaching any children I may be
blessed with, to seek to Serve God, not 'religions'.

Sadly, in that youthful age, I wasn't yet aware of just how
much trouble, those who serve the god of death, go to, to
'set up', those they know to be of the nature to seek to serve
The Creator of Life, with husbands, wives, partners and friends
who will deceive, stumble and even kill, that saving spark of,
Love and Trust in The Creator God's Holy Spirit of Truth.

Thankfully, I was also born with a stubborn spirit that kept
whispering, "it's the liars and bullies who are, too weak to
keep standing, in The Saving Truth."; a loud whisper, to a
child who was constantly cursed off, for being too crippled
to walk until 6 years old, by those who believed in religious
doctrines, myths and superstitions.
true lilly wrote:Seeing as 'that name' that simply must preach the vile,
and patently stupid, "it's all 'the Jews' fault", lie, 'Rodin',
is also here again, shoving his shit down our throats, I
thought of you John Drake, when this song started on
my playlist and I saw what followed.

They do seem to be calling out for a timely re-hearing.
Everybody Knows
https://youtu.be/yG5e1oaen-M
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows
Who By Fire
https://youtu.be/j2T274bXIxU
And who by fire?
Who by water?
Who in the sunshine?
Who in the night time?
Who by high ordeal?
Who by common trial?
Who in your merry merry month of May?
Who by very slow decay?
And who shall I say is calling?
(Who shall I say is calling?)

And who in her lonely slip?
Who by barbiturate?
Who in these realms of love?
Who by something blunt?

Who by avalanche?
Who by powder?
Who for his greed?
Who for his hunger?
And who shall I say is calling?
(Who shall I say is calling?)

And who by brave assent?
Who by accident?
Who in solitude?
Who in this mirror?
Who by his lady's command?
Who by his own hand?
Who in mortal chains?
Who in power?
And who shall I say is calling?
(Who shall I say is calling?)

Don't Give Up
https://youtu.be/dduZbDFCG_E
in this proud land we grew up strong
we were wanted all along
I was taught to fight, taught to win
I never thought I could fail

no fight left or so it seems
I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
I've changed my face, I've changed my name
but no one wants you when you lose

don't give up
'cos you have friends
don't give up
you're not beaten yet
don't give up
I know you can make it good

though I saw it all around
never thought I could be affected
thought that we'd be the last to go
it is so strange the way things turn

drove the night toward my home
the place that I was born, on the lakeside
as daylight broke, I saw the earth
the trees had burned down to the ground

don't give up
you still have us
don't give up
we don't need much of anything
don't give up
'cause somewhere there's a place
where we belong

rest your head
you worry too much
it's going to be alright
when times get rough
you can fall back on us
don't give up
please don't give up

'got to walk out of here
I can't take anymore
going to stand on that bridge
keep my eyes down below
whatever may come
and whatever may go
that river's flowing
that river's flowing

moved on to another town
tried hard to settle down
for every job, so many men
so many men no-one needs

don't give up
'cause you have friends
don't give up
you're not the only one
don't give up
no reason to be ashamed
don't give up
you still have us
don't give up now
we're proud of who you are
don't give up
you know it's never been easy
don't give up
'cause I believe there's the a place
there's a place where we belong

Running Up That Hill
https://youtu.be/wp43OdtAAkM
It doesn't hurt me.
Do you want to feel how it feels?
Do you want to know, know that it doesn't hurt me?
Do you want to hear about the deal that I'm making?
You, It's you and me.

And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill,
Be running up that building.
Say, If I only could, oh...

You don't want to hurt me,
But see how deep the bullet lies.
Unaware, I'm tearing you asunder.
Ooh, There is thunder in our hearts.

Is there so much hate for the ones who love?
Tell me we both matter don't we?

You,
It's you and me,
It's you and me who won't be unhappy.

And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill,
Be running up that building.
Say, If I only could, oh...

You,
It's you and me,
It's you and me who won't be unhappy.

Come on baby, come on darling
Let me steal this moment from you now
Oh come on angel, come on come on darlin'
Let's exchange the experience oh...

And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill,
With no problems...

Say if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill,
With no problems...

Say if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill,
With no problems...

Say, If I only could...
Oh...
Be running up that hill,
With no problems...

If only I could,
Be running up that hill...
_______________________________

...and I'll add, you could probably best describe me as
a 'churchless Israelite', as sung by my favourite Prophet,
that 'little Jew' who's so bitterly hated by "tintin" and his
Team mates like 'Rodin'

How Can You Live In The Northeast?
(Paul Simon)
https://youtu.be/kwgHwoimNWY
We heard the fireworks
Rushed out to watch the sky
Happy-go-lucky, Fourth of July

How can you live in the Northeast?
How can you live in the South?
How can you build on the banks of a river when the floodwater pours
from the mouth?
How can you be a Christian?
How can you be a Jew?
How can you be a Mulsim, a Buddhist, a Hindu?
How can you?

Weak as the winter sun, we enter life on earth
Names and religion come just after date of birth
Then everybody gets a tongue to speak
And everyone hears an inner voice
A day at the end of the week
To wonder and rejoice
If the answer is infinite light, why do we sleep in the dark?

How can you live in Northeast?
How can you live the South?
How can you build on the banks of a river when the floodwater pours
from the mouth?
How can you tattoo your body?
Why do you cover your head?
How can you eat from a rice bowl? The holy man only breaks bread

We watched the fireworks ‘til they were fireflies
Follow a path of stars
Over the endless skies

How can you live in the Northeast?
How can you live in the South?
How can you build on the banks of a river when the floodwater pours
from the mouth?

I’ve been given all I wanted
Only three generations off the boat
I have harvested and I have planted
I am wearing my father’s old coat

ha...and as I was putting this together,
another deeply beautiful song started, that
also seems to be calling me to remind folk,
that, I don't 'hate the Scots' either ...see
with me, it's always been the individual spirits
of individual people, that 'speak'...and that can
be for good or ill, no matter the mix of land or
'blood' that their flesh was born of.

Freedom Calling
https://youtu.be/qT7NBUdqUUo
If you hear a voice call out your name
Saying you can stop yourself from falling
And if he strikes you in his fear and shame
Well you can leave him to his ruin
If your dreams they wake you in the night
And your heart it is a pounding
If you cry out as you wake in your fright
And the wind it is a-howling

Maybe it's time to find another place
Where nobody even knows your face
There is no need to be afraid
For it's only freedom calling

If your tears begin to overflow
As you walk against the undertow
There is no need to be afraid
For it's only freedom calling

If you're sad ‘cause you're all alone
And your hands they are a shaking
And your miracle cure's not working anymore
And the flood bank's close to breaking

Suddenly you're on an open unknown road
Passing all the heavy, long wide loads
It is time to make your great escape
And you can hear your freedom calling

I want to dive into the sea of love
But my knees they are a quaking
I can see myself high up above
And there's no time left for faking

I no longer need to understand
What it is to truly be a man
Only when I gave up on my masterplan
Did I then hear freedom calling
Did I then hear freedom calling
true lilly wrote:John Drake, I know this thread was started simply to invite me to post at "hpanwoforum",
and I still have to wonder why, when it's 'populated' by the same 'names' that so bitterly
attack me, here and everywhere else.
Particularly as the format there, means I would only have to rewrite, the same answers,
to same old, barrage of 'questions' (excuses to repeat, repeat and endlessly repeat lies
and slanders in an effort to further drown out truth), that I, as only one, real and very
underfunded and technologically underpowered Luddite of an old woman, have no hope
of keeping up with.

But as to any of my posts that you feel contain useful answers to the garbage I see
you have flung at you over there, if you have the means to transfer them there, go
for it! See, I'm also a slow reader and very slow typist, so I'm even handicapped
in engaging in 'live debate'; a handicap that 'they' (being the cheats 'they' are), love
to take advantage of, with tricks like flooding boards with knowingly false claims that
I have 'no answers' to points I simply haven't got around to answering.

But, while I'm not saying I won't post there, I must, and do, Thank You, for the title
of this thread here, as it does open it up for me, to 'explain myself' (here in 'General'),
to newbies and other readers who wonder about why, I do attract so many, and such
vile, personal attacks. Simply; "I" do, because it is Not "about me", but what it is
that motivates me make public, my most grateful understanding of life, and what
makes it all so worthwhile. The topic 'they' hate any honest discussion of....it's,
"The God Thing".

That anyone who has and still does, suffer from the sorts of abuses inflicted on
me and mine, has not lost faith, but rather, Joyfully Gives Thanks To God for His,
countless blessings that No man can, make, buy or steal (who cares to share the
many insights that cruelties have in turn served to bless me with, by knowing to
Not Blame God for the evils of man, but rather, Thanking Him, for the ways He has
shown me of surviving them), is Not 'the sort of thing', The Terrorists of CONspiracy
Land, want to spread.

Oh but 'they' do love arguing about 'god', and who's squiggly lines are the oldest
or newest, 'first and last word' on 'the topic', because that is how 'they' make God
'look guilty' for mans prideful denial of the countless, simple, real world ways God
shows us that He does exist, is perfectly just and does indeed, keep all His Promises...
...something we need to understand more now, in these very hard times, than we
ever did before...but enough from me now, best to hear from the experts again... ,
keeping in mind (and heart), that all the best love songs, are about the love between,
God and His Children

Love And Hard Times
https://youtu.be/bVePccVoMCw
God and His only Son
Paid a courtesy call on Earth
One Sunday morning
Orange blossoms opened their fragrant lips
Songbirds sang from the tips of Cottonwoods
Old folks wept for His love in these hard times

“Well, we got to get going,” said the restless Lord to the Son
“There are galaxies yet to be born
Creation is never done
Anyway, these people are slobs here
If we stay it’s bound to be a mob scene
But, disappear, and it’s love and hard times”

I loved her the first time I saw her
I know that’s an old songwriting cliché
Loved you the first time I saw you
Can’t describe it any other way
Any other way
The light of her beauty was warm as a summer day
Clouds of antelope rolled by
No hint of rain to come
In the prairie sky
Just love, love, love, love, love

When the rains came, the tears burned, windows rattled, locks turned
It’s easy to be generous when you’re on a roll
It’s hard to be grateful when you’re out of control
And love is gone

The light at the edge of the curtain
Is the quiet dawn
The bedroom breathes
In clicks and clacks
Uneasy heartbeat, can’t relax
But then your hand takes mine
Thank God, I found you in time
Thank God, I found you
Thank God, I found you

The Promise
https://youtu.be/nhzbVHuxBS0
If you wait for me then I'll come for you
Although I've traveled far
I always hold a place for you in my heart
If you think of me If you miss me once in awhile
Then I'll return to you
I'll return and fill that space in your heart

Remembering
Your touch
Your kiss
Your warm embrace
I'll find my way back to you
If you'll be waiting
If you dream of me like I dream of you
In a place that's warm and dark
In a place where I can feel the beating of your heart

Remembering
Your touch
Your kiss
Your warm embrace
I'll find my way back to you
If you'll be waiting
I've longed for you and I have desired
To see your face your smile
To be with you wherever you are

Remembering
Your touch
Your kiss
Your warm embrace
I'll find my way back to you
If you'll be waiting
I've longed for you and I have desired
To see your face, your smile
To be with you wherever you are

Remembering
Your touch
Your kiss
Your warm embrace
I'll find my way back to you
Please say you'll be waiting

Together again
It would feel so good to be
In your arms
Where all my journeys end
If you can make a promise
If it's one that you can keep, I vow to come for you
If you wait for me and say you'll hold
A place for me in your heart.

true lilly Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:08 am

6 October 2011
Last updated at 02:18 GMT
Aboriginal Stonehenge:
Stargazing in ancient Australia

By Stephanie Hegarty
BBC World Service
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Continue reading the main story

An egg-shaped ring of standing stones in Australia
could prove to be older than Britain's Stonehenge - and it may show that
ancient Aboriginal cultures had a deep understanding of the movements of the stars.

Fifty metres wide and containing more than 100 basalt boulders,
the site of Wurdi Youang in Victoria was noted by European
settlers two centuries ago,
and charted by archaeologists in 1977,
but only now is its purpose being rediscovered.

It is thought the site was built by the Wadda Wurrung people -
the traditional inhabitants of the area. All understanding of the
rocks' significance was lost, however, when traditional language and
practices were banned at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Now a team of archaeologists, astronomers and Aboriginal advisers
is reclaiming that knowledge.

They have discovered that waist-high boulders at the tip of
the egg-shaped point along the ring to the position on the horizon
where the sun sets at the summer and winter solstice - the longest
and shortest day of the year.

“Start Quote
<blockquote>It is interesting to know how far back people were doing astronomy,
if it is 5,000 years old it would predate Stonehenge”
</blockquote> Prof Ray Norris
Astrophysicist

The axis from top to bottom points towards the equinox -
when the length of day equals night.

At Stonehenge, the sun aligns instead with gaps in the stones
on these key dates in the solar calendar.

The probability that layout of Wurdi Youang is a coincidence
is miniscule, argues Ray Norris, a British astrophysicist at Australia's
national science agency, who is leading the investigation.

Prof Norris and his Aboriginal partners used Nasa technology
to measure the position of each rock in relation to the sun, and
to demonstrate the connection with the solstices and equinox.

"It's truly special because
a lot of people don't take account of Aboriginal science,"
says Reg Abrahams, an Aboriginal adviser working with Prof Norris.

Giant emu
As happened with Stonehenge, the discovery could change the
way people view early societies. It is only recently that it has been
demonstrated that Aboriginal societies could count beyond five or six.

"This is the first time we have been able to show that,
as well as being interested in the position of the sun,
they were making astronomical measurements," says Prof Norris,
who is also a faculty member at the School of Indigenous Studies
at Macquarie University in Sydney.

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This photo of the emu in the sky by an aboriginal rock carving
was sent to every school in Australia

Other studies by Prof Norris, of Aboriginal songs and stories,
have also indicated a clear understanding of the movements of the sun,
moon and stars.

Indigenous customs vary among groups across Australia, but
one story that appears in many local traditions is
the tale of a great emu that sits in the sky.

The emu, which can be seen in the southern hemisphere during
April and May, is a shape made by the dark patches of the Milky Way.

Its appearance coincides with laying season of the wild emu
and for the storytellers it is a sign to start collecting eggs.

Prompted by historian Hugh Cairns, Prof Norris examined and
photographed an emu-shaped rock carving in Kuring-Gai Chase National
Park, near Sydney, which cleverly mirrors the celestial animal-like shape.
During the southern autumn, the constellation
is positioned above the rock
with the bird shape almost perfectly reflected
by the engraving.

Intellectual leap
Other stories show more complex,
intellectual understanding of the universe.

In the case of the solar eclipse, the Walpiri people in the Northern Territory
tell the story of a sun-woman who pursues a moon-man.
When she catches him the two become husband and wife
together causing a solar eclipse.

The idea that the solar eclipse is caused by the moon moving
in front of the sun is something only widely accepted by western
scientists in the 16th Century.

"This is not about balls of flames going out,
it's about one body moving in front of the other,"
says Prof Norris. "That is a giant intellectual leap."

Since solar eclipses are rare, the survival of this story,
passed down through generations,
also shows a remarkable continuity of learning.

These discoveries play a crucial role in helping
Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal Australians
understand just how intellectually
advanced their ancient society was.

"This discovery has huge significance for understanding the
amazing ability of this culture that is maligned," says Janet Mooney,
head of Indigenous Australian Studies at Sydney University.

"It makes not only me, as an Aboriginal person,
but a lot of Aboriginal people around Australia very proud."

She hopes to be able to tell her students of
an aboriginal site more ancient than Stonehenge.

Continue reading the main story Aboriginal cultures

Australia's indigenous Aboriginal population make up 470,000 of the country's 21 million population
There are more than 400 separate Aboriginal traditions in Australia but they share many beliefs
All aboriginal cultures believe in the Dreaming, an expression
for man's relationship to the spiritual natural and moral elements of
the world
A Dreaming is a story owned by a particular tribe that tells the story of creation

Until it is dated however, Wurdi Youang could be anywhere from 200 to 20,000 years old.

Aboriginal stone structures in the region have a vast age
range and are very difficult to date. Many of the smaller rock sites
that have been found, such as shelters and cooking areas, have been
moved over time by natural and human forces.

But given the size of the stones at Wurdi Youang and how
deeply they are entrenched in the ground it is more likely they have
been there for thousands of years, archaeologists say.

Dating requires archaeologists to test the soil under the
rocks to see when it was last exposed to sunlight and the team hope to
be able to do this in the next few months.

But Prof Norris believes he has already proven the real value of the stone circle.

"It is interesting to know how far back people were doing
astronomy, if it is 5,000 years old it would predate Stonehenge," he
says.

"But it is not quite as interesting to my mind as whether the
Aboriginal people were doing real astronomy before British contact.
That really tells us a lot about what kind of culture it is."

Reach for the Stars - Aboriginal Astronomy was produced by Robert Cockburn and broadcast by Discovery for BBC World Service. Listen the radio documentary here
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Good readers, this was my playground, growing up. It caused me to ask these questions,
about this glorious, truly ancient land's, truly ancient history, even as a child, yet despite
always getting the 'accepted', stock fob off's, 'something' always told
me that's what they were. Simple answers given to a child, as if being a
child made one simple. And so I kept, looking, asking, thinking about
answers given, and why they were given, when obviously,
so many of those 'accepted' answers, contradicted other 'accepted'
answers. Until now at a mature age, having enjoyed an 'interesting'
life, moving around a lot of this country, amongst many cultural and
social groups, from farming to politics, and much in between
and on the fringes, I found that when removing the contradictions, what we are left with,
is, what God described, from the beginning.

true lilly wrote:Another Sign to LOCATE Lands
Described in Holy Scripture...

NO ONE can simply walk up to
"quails" or "pheasants"
and collect more than they can eat,
but in ONE AREA on Earth they CAN, STILL,
gather the most tasty of birds...

Mutton Birds

Aboriginal people still harvest the mutton
birds. Our catch and sales are dependent
on the sustainability of the harvest. Mutton
birds are a delicacy to eat, with a rich oily
flavour unlike any other.

The short-tailed shearwater of Griffiths Island
(Puffinus tenuirostiris - Tasmanian Shearwater)
is commonly called the 'mutton bird'.

Given the name 'mutton bird'
by early settlers of Port Fairy
of its fatty flesh, the shearwater
was hunted as a food and oil source.

Today the shearwater
is totally protected in Victoria.

The journey, of about 15,000 km, passes
New Zealand and Japan
and is completed in only two months.

The return journey follows the coast of
North America to California,
then south-west across the Pacific.
Prevailing winds aid their flight for most of the journey
but on the final leg, from the central Pacific,
the birds battle across south-east winds.

They return to their nesting grounds exhausted...
http://www.port-fairy.com/shearwaters.htm

Ferley Gardner,
Tasmanian Aboriginal Elder...
...One of the highlights of her childhood was
when her family would pack up everything each year
and travel to Big Dog Island or Babel Island
for the mutton bird season.

...COLLECTING BIRDS ON BABEL ISLAND ...
http://www.abc.net.au/gnt/history/Tr...s/s1045602.htm

And all anyone has to do to see it, is get over that patently absurd,
insanely too short, only recently agreed on, "out of Egypt" lie.

true lilly Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:33 am

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David Icke Official Forums="TERRORIST SITE"?

Well, 'they' DON'T cover News like this:
Two arrested over people smuggling
in Australian Federal Police raid

true lilly wrote:Australian citizen on boat charge

Aleks Devic, Carly Crawford
AT least one of the alleged key players
in a people-smuggling ring
was made an Australian
after slipping into the country illegally.
Australian citizen on boat charge
by:Aleks Devic, Carly Crawford
From:Herald Sun
October 07, 2011
12:00AM
From: HeraldSun
Fri Oct 07 00:00:00 EST 2011

AT least one of the alleged key players
in a global people-smuggling operation
was made an Aussie
after slipping into the country illegally
a decade ago.

Lamis Alli Baighi, 34, of Templestowe,
was charged with one count of people smuggling.
Herald Sun

AT least one of the alleged key players in a global people-smuggling
operation was made an Aussie after slipping into the country illegally a
decade ago.

The Herald Sun can reveal former
Iraqi man Ali Haidari, 36, of Thornbury,
arrived in Australia on an unauthorised vessel in 2002.

Mr Haidari, who has no family ties in Australia and never landed a career
job, settled in Melbourne and won Australian citizenship in 2007.

He was one of two people police will allege to be the masterminds of a
global smuggling racket spanning Iraq, Iran and Indonesia.

The alleged smuggling ring was exposed as part of Operation Rasbora, which
has been operating for 10 months and which police say will continue with
more charges to be laid.

Australian Federal Police yesterday said the alleged scheme
came undone after undercover operatives allegedly
struck a deal with Mr Haidari to bring over
a fictitious family of six from Afghanistan.

Police allege the ring charged between $4500-$10,000 for asylum
seekers to come to Australia with "significant danger" given the state
of the boats.

Mr Haidari was charged with facilitating the entry into Australia
for the six people last month.

Charge sheets tendered in Melbourne Magistrates' Court
also state that between September 14 and October 5
he provided material support to aid people smuggling.

Mr Haidari, represented by Bernie Balmer also faces
two drug-related charges.

Police allege he imported methamphetamines
valued at $750,000.

Lamis Alli Baighi, 34, of Templestowe,
was charged with one count of people smuggling.

Supt Stephan Obers said outside court that
Indonesian police had helped the operation.

"We're saying (to the court) that they are
key facilitators in the syndicate, they're key planners," Supt Obers said.

Ten search warrants were executed
across Victoria and NSW yesterday with police
seizing documents and computers.

Mr Alli Baighi was released on bail while
Mr Haidari made no application and was remanded in custody.

The pair will next appear in court on February 2.
[email=devica@heraldsun.com.au ]devica@heraldsun.com.au [/email]

And THEY CONSTANTLY LIE ABOUT
THE DANGERS TO AUSTRALIA,
FROM TRAITORS and FOREIGN INVADERS
WHO WANT TO TURN AUSTRALIA OVER
TO THEIR ANTI-CHRIST, ANTI-BRITISH,
ANTI-AUSTRALIAN HOARDS:
SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by AUNT TISWAS

true lilly Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:54 am

10 October 2011
Last updated at 12:17 GMT
Ah, but let's start with
The Last Line, First...
"Egypt only recognises
conversions from Christianity to Islam,
not the other way".

Egypt clashes:
Military calls for swift unrest probe
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Yolande Knell describes the scene in Cairo as Coptic Christians mount further protests

Related Stories
In pictures: Egypt clashes
Egypt Christian protest attacked
Copts fearful and angry in wake of attack

Egypt's ruling military council has called for a swift investigation into unrest in Cairo,
after clashes mainly between Coptic Christians and security forces on Sunday.

The cabinet has held an emergency meeting ahead of the first funerals
of 24 people who died in Sunday's unrest.

Riots erupted on Sunday after a protest against an attack on a church in Aswan.

Reports of protesters in Cairo being crushed by military vehicles
have further heightened tensions.

Sectarian strife has increased in recent months in Egypt.

The Copts - who make up about 10% of the population - accuse
the governing military council of being too lenient on the perpetrators
of a string of anti-Christian attacks.

The BBC's Yolande Knell in Cairo says there is pressure on ministers
and on the country's military rulers to give assurances about national unity.

'Plain clothed attackers'
The military called on the government to carry out a quick investigation into
the clashes by "forming a fact-finding committee to determine what happened
and take legal measures against all those proven to have been involved".

In a statement read out on state TV, the army also said they would take all
necessary measures to maintain security and repeated their commitment to
plan for handing power to civilians.

Security has been stepped up at vital installations in Cairo,
with additional troops deployed outside parliament and the cabinet
building in anticipation of further unrest.

Police have been stationed outside the Coptic hospital,
where most of the dead and injured were brought.

Analysis
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Yolande Knell
BBC News, Cairo

As the morning mist lifted with the curfew in central Cairo,
relative calm had returned to the streets.

Yet Egyptians are still reeling with shock at this violence.
The death toll in these clashes was the highest seen in years.

Pictures in late editions of the newspapers show chaotic scenes and the gory result,
bodies lying in morgues. "Egypt bleeds in Maspero" reads one headline.
"Who is the behind the flare-ups?" asks another.

State television showed clashes between Copts and soldiers who responded
to the angry protests with tear gas. YouTube footage appears to show an
armoured security van speeding into the crowd. I saw menacing gangs
roaming the streets.

Funerals of the many victims will begin in the coming hours as the Egyptian cabinet
meets
to discuss its response. The pressure is now on to maintain order and
ensure that political transition gets back on track.

Mounting hostility behind Egypt's violent protests

Funeral services were expected to be held in the afternoon at the city's Coptic cathedral.

Thousands - mainly but not exclusively Christians - joined
the initial march from the Shubra district of northern Cairo to the
state TV building in Maspero Square on Sunday, calling on the military
council to sack the governor of Aswan province.

They also accused state TV of fanning the flames of anti-Christian agitation.

But the demonstrators said they were assaulted by attackers
in plain clothes before the clashes with the security forces broke out.

The violence began outside the state TV building but soon
spread to Tahrir Square, the epicentre of the demonstrations which led
to President Hosni Mubarak's resignation February.

There were reports of thousands joining in the street violence, attacking both sides.
Rioters tore up the pavement and hurled stones.

Correspondents say that many Muslims came out to defend Christians from
the security forces and protest against the military's continued hold on power.

Some called for the resignation of the military council, in particular its chairman,
Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi.

Others responded to government calls to help the army quell the unrest
for the sake of stability.

Some protesters reported hearing gunfire, and several said
they had seen a military vehicle run over at least five people.
There has been no comment from the government on the reports.

One eyewitness, a Christian named Sandra, watched the violence on Maspero Square
from her home.

"Everything took place directly underneath our house," she told the BBC.

"It all happened so fast. The army moved in with tanks and were literally
running over people. You could see bodies all over the place. People were running
and screaming."

Hossam
Baghgat, head of the Egyptian Initiative for Human Rights and an
eyewitness, described to local TV what he saw: "Some bodies had no
heads, others had their heads completely flattened [and] you can't see
the features, it's so obvious they were run over."

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Eyewitnesses said security forces vehicles ran over protesters

The ministry of health said that at least 24 people had been killed and 212 had been wounded in the violence.

Of this number, at least 86 were security forces, ministry spokesman Hisham Shiha
told the BBC.

Security vacuum
Later, Egypt's Prime Minister Essam Sharaf appealed for calm and addressed calls
by protesters for the removal of the military rulers.

"The most serious threat to the country's security is
tampering with national unity, and the stirring of discord between
Muslim and Christian sons of Egypt," he said in a televised address
late on Sunday.

He added that such violence - the worst in Egypt since Mr Mubarak was ousted -
was "tampering with the relationship between the people and the army".

Our correspondent says sectarian tensions have simmered in the political and
security vacuum that has developed in the past couple of months.

Christians have been worried by the increasing show of strength by
ultra-conservative Islamists.

In May, 12 people died in attacks on Coptic churches. In March, 13 people were killed
in clashes between Muslims and Copts in Tahrir Square.

This latest violence comes ahead of parliamentary elections scheduled for 28 November,
the first such vote since Mr Mubarak was ousted.

The Copts, the largest minority in Egypt, complain of discrimination, including
a law requiring presidential permission for churches to be built. Egypt only recognises conversions from Christianity to Islam, not the other way.
______________________________________________________
From other news sites

Reuters UK Egypt Christians mourn dead after clashes kill 25 51 mins ago

Telegraph Egypt holds crisis talks after dozens killed in riots 3 hrs ago

Haaretz Egypt arrests dozens of 'instigators' after deadly Cairo clashes 3 hrs ago

Mail Online UK Cairo riots: At least 24 killed and 200 injured as Christians clash with Egyptian military 3 hrs ago

The Independent 'Instigators of chaos' held after Egypt riots new 4 hrs ago

true lilly Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:30 am

Ciggy wrote:Shut the hell up about Australia.

Why, too many waking up from Ickest red & blue nightmare inducing,
poisonous sleeping pills?
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3163

true lilly of Victoria Posted at 5:13 PM Today
Ex-union official - comment 17: while I maintain that there are good and
bad in all,(I even know some health professionals who are good people),
you make so much clear sense, I'm sure it's gone over the heads of
most. Sounds like, walks like...dangerous cultists do exist and hide
behind the membership of, and association with, 'respected clubs', such
as the medical and health services professions, and other 'respected'
organisations they associate with, and I look forward to the day people
no longer see a uniform and assume they know the character of the
individual person wearing it, i.e. "Ah, a nurse. Must be selfless,
giving and kind. A police woman, must be just and lawful.". Yes, a
shovel put at the door of a health unionist, is far more worrying, than
M.C Club members moving shovels slowly on a work site, under their
contracted rights, signed 'on our behalf' by 'respected' elected
officials. Ah, if only some of the appointed members of the 'justice'
industry, were as honorable in enforcing our laws, as some clubs are at
enforcing their own.
Comment 59 of 61
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Cori wrote:

We've got a couple of satellites in rotation to keep tabs on you as well.
You're too valuable to Truth to be allowed to go on posting on forums.

Spies infiltrated Victorian desalination plant | The Australian
18 Nov 2010 – Spies infiltrated Victorian desalination plant ... Spies in Desal Plant ...The documents state that those hired for the alleged spying should ideally ...

Allegations of spying at desal project - ABC Gippsland Vic ...
18 Nov 2010 – Work has stopped on the controversial Wonthaggi desalination project after allegations that a Tasmanian based company was hired to spy on ...

An interesting comment from, Ex-union official (comment 17 below),
because of how much they do say. Mind you, it can't be added to, as it
would "offend" too many people in 'respected' positions, but I will add
to it here, as it ties right in with why the ilk of
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"They're running amok," she said.

ex-union official Posted at 8:01 AM Today
Unions have been linked to outlaw motorcycle gangs, and
various other organisations that need disbanding, for decades
so this story should come as no shock. Unions are draconian
organisations of a bygone era. They serve no purpose other than to
feather their own nests and pray on the weak minded to make them think
they need them by paying ridiculous amounts of fees every year for cheap
shopping, discounted banking and overpriced health insurance. Sooner
workers wake up and see they are being taken for a ride the better they
and this country will be....Sound like a cult don't they?
Comment 17 of 20

While I maintain that there are good and bad in all,
(I even know some health professionals who are good people),
you make so much clear sense, I'm sure it's gone over the heads of most.
Sounds like, walks like...dangerous cultists do exist and hide
behind the membership of, and association with, 'respected clubs', such
as the medical and health services professions, and other 'respected'
organisations they associate with, and I look forward to the day people
no longer see a uniform and assume they know the character of the
individual person wearing it, i.e. "Ah, a nurse. Must be selfless,
giving and kind. A police woman, must be just and lawful.".

Yes, a shovel put at the door of a health unionist, is far more worrying,
than M.C. Club members moving shovels slowly on a work site, under their
contracted rights, signed 'on our behalf' by 'respected' elected officials.

Ah, if only some of the appointed members of the 'justice' industry,
were as honorable in enforcing our laws, as some clubs are at enforcing
their own.

Oh, and I post this article without highlights or comments, but will add:
NOTICE, ALL THAT WATER, LYING AROUND THE COUNTRYSIDE,
SURROUNDING The "desal" Plant?
IT FELL OUT OF THE SKY!
FOR FREE!
AS IT ALWAYS DOES AROUND THAT DISTRICT!
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comment 12, by,
William of Carlton Posted at 7:23 AM Today
Everything about the desal plant is shonky.
From the non-justification of its existence,... David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 252310

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Bikies linked to workers at Wonthaggi desalination plant
by: Carly Crawford, Stephen Drill
From:Herald Sun
October 17, 2011
20 comments
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Unionists with links to at least three outlaw motorcycle gangs - the Black
Uhlans, the Comancheros, and the Rebels - have reportedly been active at
the desal plant.
Herald Sun

A HARD core of union workers at the troubled desalination plant are allegedly aligned with outlaw motorcycle gangs.

A Herald Sun investigation has uncovered allegations that
bikie-backed union members have snared a slice of the $5.7 billion plant
in Wonthaggi, Victoria's richest infrastructure project.

The State Government says it is "extremely concerned" and has asked the
Victoria Police Chief Commissioner's office for advice on tackling crime
in the building industry.

Unionists with links to at least three outlaw motorcycle gangs - the Black
Uhlans, the Comancheros, and the Rebels - have been active on the site,
the Herald Sun understands.

But unions denied yesterday there were any members of outlaw bikie gangs on site.

Information from sources in construction and law enforcement indicates:

Related Coverage

Exposed: The Coast's bikie tsars Courier Mail, 8 days ago
Gangs armed and dangerous Herald Sun, 27 Sep 2011
Outlaw bikie escort for school formal Courier Mail, 23 Sep 2011
Police insider's link to bikies Herald Sun, 5 Aug 2011
Police to take on outlaw gangs Herald Sun, 22 May 2011

A TRADES assistant at the site has told co-workers he is a high-ranking member of
the Black Uhlans and also a member of the AMWU.

AT LEAST one senior figure on the site has suspected links with a high-profile member
of the Rebels.

A TRADESMAN with a prominent role in the ETU who has worked on the site
is aligned with the Comancheros and was convicted in 2009 of theft and
possession of drugs and illegal explosives.

One source said several bikie gang members had established themselves in Wonthaggi,
even renting homes in the town.
"They're running amok," she said.

The Black Uhlans publicly rallied to support then AMWU figure Craig Johnston,
now a CFMEU steward, after he was jailed in 2004 for leading a rampage through
a recruitment firm.

Unionists believed to have been involved in that incident now work at the desal plant, industry sources say.

Construction industry figures believe another CFMEU figure, whose identity is known to the Herald Sun, retains a strong connection to the Black Uhlans.

The ETU, CFMEU and AMWU all yesterday denied their members had any links with outlaw bikie clubs.
Desal plant builder Thiess Degremont said it required professional standards of behaviour of its employees.
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20 comments on this story
Harry M of Melbourne outer Posted at 12:09 AM Today
More speed cameras is the answer.
Comment 1 of 20

morph of Sydney Posted at 12:10 AM Today
Itâ€

s easy to be PM, just reverse what ever
Howard did. This is why the Gillard Govt is in such a hurry to dismantle
the last remnants of the Australian Building and Construction
Commission. They were the ones responsible for removing the militant and
criminal elements from the construction industry, during the Howard
years.
Comment 2 of 20

Johno of Melbourne Posted at 12:36 AM Today
There is no law against being associated with a
bikie club but the fair work act has a freedom of association clause
which states that people have a right to be or not to be in a union.
God help anyone in the building and construction industry who does not
join the union.
Clean up these overpaid thugs Ted.
Comment 3 of 20

Steve S of Melbourne Posted at 12:39 AM Today
Just the usual situation for a Labor project.
Some of these uneducated thugs will be your local Mp's soon enough. Yet
the mindless sheep will blindly continue to vote for them.
Comment 4 of 20

Scott of Corio Posted at 1:08 AM Today
When will media understand that people are not labels, we are not what we do.
Comment 5 of 20

The Mighty Wallabies Posted at 1:27 AM Today
Yep, whatever. Nations built on criminals, the
people idolize criminals, the media makes money from criminals then the
people idolize the criminals that are on TV. Not really doing much to
deter the future generation from becoming criminals. This is life get
over it.
Comment 6 of 20

Lachlan of Warrnambool Posted at 5:40 AM Today
So the herald sun understands that bike
members are active on this site? Why would you publish this unless you
were certain of these allegations? I'm sure there are rank and file bike
gang members working in many different industries. How about the herald
sun finds something worth writing about instead of inciting hate toward
Comment 7 of 20

GJ The Magpieman of Watsonia North Posted at 6:25 AM Today
Typical Unions !
Comment 8 of 20

Matt of Upwey Posted at 6:25 AM Today
WTF? So you are not allowed to be in a union
and also know or be a member of a motorcycle club? What sort of article
is this anyway? Are you allowed to be in a motorcycle club and work?
This is insanity.
Comment 9 of 20

Kylie of Eltham Posted at 7:11 AM Today
I'm not surprised to read this. Union run
construction sights are just down right criminal. I know several people
who work on not just this sight but other union sights. The amount of
illegal activity that goes on is a joke. State Labor party are also
corrupt for turning a blind eye to and sometimes agreeing to all of the
illegal activities going on. All at the expense of us Tax payers.
Disgusting.
Comment 10 of 20

Matt of Melbourne Posted at 7:22 AM Today
What a load of rubbish, that is a typical
example of glorified journalism. I could be linked to the bikies as I
train at the gym with one in my boxing sessions. Does that mean i have
associates and links to bikies? Just another attemp to make the CFMEU
& Unions look bad so Baiileu can justify his attempts to create a
new state-based ABCC. Its ok Mr Baileu for bosses to make squillions
each year in salary's but once the normal people see some dollars its
all doom and gloom. What else do you expect from someone who only knows
the postcode of toorak
Comment 11 of 20

William of Carlton Posted at 7:23 AM Today
Everything about the desal plant is shonky.
From the non-justification of its existence, to the waste of workers
super through underwriting by industry super funds, to the reservation
of highly paid unnecessary jobs by union hacks. Ted B should cut his
losses, shut it down now and contract out a new dam built with
non-compulsory union labor. Let the partially built desal plant be a
monument to Labor greed and incompetence.
Comment 12 of 20

Vroom Vroom of Melbourne Posted at 7:31 AM Today
Ooh and a bloke who was on is way to
Wangaratta up the Hume was overtaken by a woman who's cousin went out
with a guy who had a motorbike and he might have had a mate who was in a
bikie gang! What a beat up this story is!!
Comment 13 of 20

Daffyd of Portsea Posted at 7:42 AM Today
What do you expect when the 'people' vote Labor
into government. It's embarrassing. People are so unintelligent.
Comment 14 of 20

Fredfrog & the Tadpoles of Swampy Hollow Posted at 7:44 AM Today
So whats new, we all know that these people
work in all sorts of areas.Yes there may be members of the groups
mentioned causing trouble in the town that they are living in. If this
is the case why havent the police of this area stepped in & done
something about them.?We also have been aware for many years that unless
your a member of a union you will not be allowed to work in this
industry. I wasnt aware that you had to be come a Union Card Carrying
member to work any where in Australia. I thought that we still had
FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Oopps !! sorry these are Labor Party supporters and
as such the little man has no rights.Just look at all the former
UNIONISTS running this country & the faceless ones backing them who
are sending this country down the drain & making us the laughing
stock for the rest of the world.
Comment 15 of 20

Filiz of Endeavour HIlls Posted at 7:54 AM Today
and..........?
The media criticises "bikies" for alleged illegal activities but it
seems they are not even allowed to hold a legit job without criticism.
Comment 16 of 20

ex-union official Posted at 8:01 AM Today
Unions have been linked to outlaw motorcycle
gangs, and various other organisations that need disbanding, for decades
so this story should come as no shock. Unions are draconian
organisations of a bygone era. They serve no purpose other than to
feather their own nests and pray on the weak minded to make them think
they need them by paying ridiculous amounts of fees every year for cheap
shopping, discounted banking and overpriced health insurance. Sooner
workers wake up and see they are being taken for a ride the better they
and this country will be....Sound like a cult don't they?
Comment 17 of 20

ted of Frankston Posted at 8:16 AM Today
what about the bloke that's a member of the
foot ball club, and works at the desal plant, just wrong you cant be a
member of a club and work as well.
Comment 18 of 20

Rita Posted at 8:33 AM Today
Knock knock Ted, are you at home?
Comment 19 of 20

long live the fat mexican of werribee Posted at 8:45 AM Today
To work on union sites you must be a paid up member.Does the Herald Sun
believe that bikies are not allowed to work? I have friends who are Black Uhlans
and Bandidos, I have been to their clubhouses for a drink and they were the
safest places I have ever had a guzzle.
Comment 20 of 20

UPDATE: Now
61 comments on this story
and seems my comment was moderate enough
to be posted, and without moderation. Wink

mugglez Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:08 pm

Yahshua's Kabbalah

http://rabdavis.org/yahshuas%20%20kabbalah.htm

Mark 9: 1 “Yes!” he went on, “I tell you that there are some people standing here who will not experience death until they see the Kingdom Of G-d come in a powerful way!” 2 Six days later, Yahshua took Kefa, Ya‘akov and Yochanan and led them up a high mountain privately. As they watched, he began to change form, 3 and his clothes became dazzlingly white, whiter than anyone in the world could possibly bleach them. 4 Then they saw Eliyahu and Moshe speaking with Yahshua. 5 Kefa said to Yahshua, “It’s good that we’re here, Rabbi! Let’s put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moshe and one for Eliyahu.” 6 (He didn’t know what to say, they were so frightened.) 7 Then a cloud enveloped them; and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” 8 Suddenly, when they looked around, they no longer saw anyone with them except Yahshua. (Jewish NT)

Those of you who are attending kabbalah class know that Jewish Mysticism, which is known today as Kabbalah is the private instruction of a rabbi to his Talmidim as opposed to Mishnah, which denoted a rabbis' public ministry that his Talmidim were to pass on.

In the foregoing passage, we have the culmination of the Kabbalah of Yahshua and he warns His disciples not to reveal the vision of the Transfiguration until after He is resurrected.

Sha'ul also wrote of Kabbalah when he spoke of the transmigration of his soul in 2 Cor. 12:2-4.

Kabbalah also informs of a technique allowing one to enter into "Paradise," the eternal Garden of Eden adjacent to the Chariot-Throne that is fraught with danger.

In general Kabbalah is about our cleaving to G-d and approaching His Throne. Elijah, Ezekiel, Yahshua and Sha'ul all seem to have been familiar with kabbalistic techniques.

In the reading of the Transfiguration (Matthew 16:28-17:13; Mark 9:1-13; Luke 9:27-36) we have a glimpse into Yahshua's kabbalah. We see Yahshua taking three of His Disciples - Peter, James, and John climbing above the villages, up the slopes of Mount Hermon or Mount Lebanon as Josephus called it in his Antiquities to an ancient site of worship.

On mount Hermon Yahshua here followed the example of Moshe who took three of his followers Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu up Mount Sinai where they ate and drank to celebrate the vision of the G-d of Israel on His sapphire throne (Ex. 24:1-11). But unlike what happened on Moshe's mountain, Yahshua's disciples, covered by a cloud of glory, heard a voice say, " This is my son, the beloved, in whom I take pleasure: hear Him (Matthew 9: Cool

and when the cloud passed they found Yahshua without Moshe and Elijah (Mark 9: Cool

standing alone as G-d's son. "Divine son" was the same designation Yahshua had heard during His immersion with John the Baptist: now his own disciples saw and heard the truth of Yahshua's own vision. We should note that the Transfiguration does not speak in the later exclusive language of the Christian Trinity that makes Yahshua into the only possible son of G-d. Here we perceive that the same spirit that had animated Elijah and Moshe was present in Yahshua and this spirit could make of whomever it wishes sons of G-d.

In the middle of the vision and hearing the divine voice Kefa (Peter) offers to build three huts (Sukkoth) for Yahshua, Moshe and Eliyahu. In Marks' gospel we see this presented as an inept suggestion born out of fear (Mark 9:5-6).

A better translation of verse 6 would be that "For he (Peter) did not know how he should respond, because they were terrified" inferring that Peter's suggestion was an inane remark because of a loss for words.

Frequently, during the formation of the Gospels and their many redactions the significance of Judaic symbolism was forgotten and blame fell on the alleged ignorance of the apostles, rather than the amnesia and ignorance of the Church. In this case the Sukkot Kefa refers to reflect both the great feast that was coming and the realization that great prophets like Moshe, Eliyahu, and Yahshua brought the Spirit of G-d to abide in Israel. Sukkot or booths symbolizes the providence of G-d in His provision for us. Kefa's appreciation of the experience he had witnessed and his desire to build shelters is an indication that he, James and John had indeed joined Yahshua in the vision of the Chariot first reported in the translation of Eliyahu as witnessed by Elisha in, 2 Kings 2:11 and later Ezekiel's Chariot-Throne in his book.

The Mishnah in Chagigah 2:1 teaches that the Chariot called Merkavah in Hebrew should not be introduced to one person alone because the vision of the divine Throne was laden with danger. Some initiates died, some went mad, and still others fell prey to polytheism, by meditating on the Throne imprudently, and it was His genius as a rabbi that Yahshua led his disciples into a vision of the Chariot in a way that mobilized and safely transformed them.

The Transfiguration represents the mature development of Rabbi Yahshua's kabbalah as a man, tempted, in all the ways of humanity, for He was not only able to translate his own vision, but to initiate others into its richness. They now saw Him as a living presence in the pantheon of Israel's patriarchs and prophets around G-d's throne. Their rabbi, favored by the thundering voice of G-d (John 12:28, 29), stood at the vortex of creation's source. Yahshua had given to them and gives to us, no matter the cost in hardships, deprivation and struggles the reward of intimacy with the divine presence.

Yahshua's esoteric teaching as evidenced by the Scriptures had grown in advance of His public teaching, and that is a reversal of the pattern we would expect from the Mishnah and the Talmud. Kabbalah had an early prominent place in His teaching. Through the Transfiguration we see that G-d has exalted His son and this revealing of Yahshua's entrance into the heavenly court forever more became a defining force in our consciousness of G-d in our culture.

The vision on Mount Hermon had shown that Yahshua was G-d's son and this exerted a powerful temptation onto His disciples. They would counsel: Who would deny such a man the power to rule as the King of Israel? Yahshua to was susceptible to the same temptation. Yet, Yahshua who is the faithful son of G-d and being pressed by HaSatan day and night to being disloyal to G-d resisted it, and "The Lord's Prayer" was completed in the dark night of what has become known as the Temptation:

My Father,

Your name will be sanctified, your Kingdom will come: Give me today the bread that is coming, and release me my debts-not bring me to the test!

The disciples as were the people of Israel confused G-d's Kingdom with their own national power, especially as Yahshua initiated then into the variations of His Kabbalah after the vision on Mt. Hermon.

Yahshua had healed the sick, raised the dead, stilled storms, walked on water and ultimately had appeared on Mt. Hermon with Eliyahu and Moshe. Why should He not break the rule of Rome?

His disciples even argued among themselves as to who should be the greatest next to Yahshua in the coming Kingdom on earth. Yahshua had to define His movement for by force they might make Him King.

In the Targum of Zechariah, chapter 14 communicates Yahshua's mission and focus to Him. It provided the formula and ritual program, and the key that would unlock the magic door through which the transformation of the Kingdom of G-d would flow. The Targum predicts that G-d's Kingdom will be manifested over the entire earth when the offerings of Sukkoth are presented both by Israelites and Gentiles at the Temple. It further predicts that these worshippers will prepare and offer their sacrifices themselves, in the Galilean manner without the intervention of middlemen. Significantly, the last words of the book promise that, "there shall never again be a trader in the sanctuary of the Lord of Hosts at that time" (Zachariah 14:21). Yahshua's desire to realize the Targum prophecy brought on the dramatic confrontation that he would shortly provoke in the Temple. Zechariah's vision of the ultimate Sukkoth restored the land to Israel and the Temple to the sacrifice G-d desired, The Romans would be banished, and Zion's gate opened to all who would join with Israel there in worship (Targum Zechariah 14:9). Most Christians do not know that during the millennium there will be a return to animal sacrifice in the Temple. Zechariah 14 vv.16-21, 'And it shall come to pass that everyone that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the king, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the feast of the tabernacles... Yea every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of Hosts; and all that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein; and in that day shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of Hosts'. And again perhaps the clearest and most detailed references to the same are in the closing chapters of Ezekiel. The seven chapters Ezekiel 40-46 - give us a description of the millennial temple with its dimensions and its practices, including the sacrifices and offerings, which will take place.

All Yahshua's actions were informed by Judaism and the tenets of its faith, and that is lost or even considered anathema to most professed believers, because they have been taught, erroneously, that His advent signaled a new path to redemption, a path that leads to Hellenistic Christianity, and it's opposition to Judaism. Yet, any unbiased, informed believer can realize through Yahshua's kabbalah and His mission that He was not only our paschal lamb to provide reconciliation unto HaShem, but he was also to usher in the Future Kingdom of G-d, established within the framework and parameters of a Messianic Judaism that upholds the practice of Torah. And not through another religion that has lost its Jewish roots, namely Christianity.

Amein

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mugglez Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Kabbalah simply means "to receive", but many generally think of Kabbalah as a form of religion, or as Eastern mysticism. Having a basic understanding of Kabbalah can be quite helpful if you come up against ideas of those who use Kabbalah to shape their ideas about spirituality.

Kabbalah is not a single system where all involved utilize the same basic principles, those who promote Kabbalist ideologies can be extremely duplicitous and deceptive. So hence some of the caution against studying Kabbalah. On the other hand, those who insist all Kabbalah is bad are generally ignorant and/or threatened by something they have little or no knowledge of. Anyone who communicates anything "spiritual" or who believes they have "received" insight from "the Spirit" are essentially teaching their own form of "Kabbalah".

There are mainstream ideas within "Kabbalah" that everyone should know about and be able to discuss, whether they agree or disagree with its interpretations. For example, take a brief survey of the list of words below, how do you define them? Where did you learn about their definitions?

Abba Adam Kadmon Akedah Anthropomorphism Antinomianism Apocalyptic Atonement

Ba'al Circumcision Da'at End of Days Exorcism Gehinnom Gematria Gevurah

Grace after meals Halacha Hod Holy Spirit Kedushah Kavod Messiah Metatron

Nefesh Olam haba Pardes Passover Prayer Prophetic Redemption Remez

Resurrection Sabbath Sacrifice Sefirot Sexuality Sinai Temple

Throne Tiferet Toledot Adam Torah Tikkun Olam

Tree of Knowledge Tree of Life Trinity

Virgin Mary World Zodiac

Each of the above words represents a meaning that each of us has a "relationship" with. There are infinite "connections" within these words, each one has many levels of meaning and understanding. Let's look at a set of names in Torah called the Toledot Adam (the line, or genealogy of Adam). The "given" names of Adams descendants to Noah are straightforward, these are "normal" Biblical names until we look a bit deeper. What is going on? Can you see a hidden meaning beneath these common individual names? You decide. In my mind what the meaning derived from the sequential meaning is no coincidence. There is universe of thought underlying these names, a hidden code to be "received". It speaks of Mashiyach.

Toledot Adam Bereshit 5

(Geneology of Adam from Genesis 5)

HEBREW NAME ENGLISH DEFINITION
ADAM MAN
SETH APPOINTED
ENOSH MORTAL
CAINAN SORROW
MAHALEEL BLESSED ELOHIM
YARED SHALL COME DOWN
ENOCH TEACHING
METHUSELAH HIS DEATH SHALL BRING
LAMECH DESPAIRING
NOACH COMFORT

MAN [is] APPOINTED MORTAL SORROW,

[but a] BLESSED ELOHIM SHALL COME DOWN

TEACHING [that] HIS DEATH SHALL BRING

[the] DESPAIRING COMFORT

MAGNIFICENT! YHWH ordained the Hebrew Names in the Toledot Adam to tell the story of Yeshua coming to earth to bring Comfort! Even SALVATION to His people! However, trying to understand Kabbalah or trying to connect with YHWH and His Mashiyach without Torah is to venture off into darkness and eventually the soul will be tormented.

True kabbalah is meant to establish the Word of YHWH in our neshama (spirit),

and to strengthen and confirm our relationship with Master YHWH.

There are many levels to receiving YHWH's wisdom, knowledge and understanding. The Adversary (HaSatan) twists that which is good and distorts it for evil purposes. However, if we focus on the Kabbalah that is revealed inside of Tanakh and the Ketuvim Netzarim, we discover magnificent revelation about YHWH, His Mashiyach, and the Life He has given each of us.

Within the Mishkan (Tabernacle), we also discover the image of Mashiyach revealed. Consider the Ark of the Covenant and the Mercy Seat in the Holy of Holies as the Head, and the Holy Place as the chest. In your mind stand the Mishkan on end with the Holy of Holies at the top. Picture the Table of Shewbread to the right side of the body, the Menorah to the left side, the alter of incense in the center right below the head, and the laver below that, and the alter below that and the door of entrance below that. YHWH revealed Mashiyach according to the how the Mishkan was arranged. As we study Torah and Mashiyach we can look inside our own souls and discover who we are in Him. We receive from the Spirit of YHWH something that is greater than the peshat (simple) sum of the parts. We can see how there can only be One Elohim whose Name is YHWH, Who knows about us and who communicates to us on a wonderful spiritual level. There are many imposter "spirits" which is why were are taught:

"And he that keeps His commandments dwells in Him, and He in him.

And hereby we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He has given us.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of Elohim:

because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 John 3:24-4:1

Here's the acid test. When we "keep His Commandments we "receive" His Spirit. When we don't keep His Commandments then we open our souls up to lying and deceiving spirits, it's just that simple.

In the days of Yeshua, the writings of the prophets of YHWH were known as "The Kabbalah". Today it is common for Christians or "Believers" to talk about "hearing from the The Spirit of YHWH (or the LORD). This is the hope and desire of everyone who puts their trust in Mashiyach. We desire that YHWH would communicate and reveal His will to us, help us conform our lives to Him. We are each unique souls created in the "image of Elohim" and we must have this confidence that we are worshipping YHWH in Spirit and Truth according to His Word. Each of us has received "Kabbalah" in our souls, this is our spiritual experience with YHWH and His Mashiyach. On a very personal and private level Kabbalah is all about intimacy with YHWH and seeking to do His will, but, for some it is about learning how to manipulate spiritual and material worlds to attain wealth or power, which is also known as witchcraft.

Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul) was one of the most vocal "Kabbalistic" Apostles. In Ephesians 6 Paul teaches us to put on the whole armor of Elohim, while juxtaposing the tactics of the Enemy. He applies these "Kabbalistic" elements from Tanakh to help the Body of Mashiyach overcome the whiles of the enemy. Paul draws out deeply embedded elements of Mashiyach (see Spiritual Armor p. 957 AENT 3rd Ed) from Scripture according to things he "received" from the Spirit of YHWH. However, Paul's letters are also the most twisted part of the New Testament, Peter writes, "As also in all his (Paul's) letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to understand, which they that are unlearned and unstable twist, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:16 Reason being, our carnal human nature tries to intellectualize the spiritual worlds rather than seeing YHWH's Commandments as "applied Kabbalah", as the work of the Ruach haKodesh writing Torah (part of the image of Elohim) upon our hearts.

Our homes are places of shelter, love, provision etc, we nurture a shalom biyet (house of wholeness) where the Spirit of YHWH is made welcome, and where we establish a gate of righteousness. Scripture tells us that every word from our mouths has natural and spiritual consequences. So imagine if each of us elevated our homes as a holy sanctuary, where no unkind or angry or malicious words felt comfortable. What if we could program the "jurisdiction" of our homes and everything within the borders of our gates according to Mashiyach? This is Torah. Torah is replete with jurisdictional elements of spirituality, but the reason many of us cannot "enter in" is because we follow a religion that interprets Torah according to certain traditions whether they be Jewish or Christian, rather than "receiving" Torah from Mashiyach.

Imagine your home as a sanctuary of peace and harmony. Joy and Peace is the predominate attribute. All anti-Messiah elements like religious discrimination, carnal sensuality, perversion, vain talking, lust, etc are awkward, unwelcome and do not belong.

The dinner table is an alter where we pray, fellowship and eat together with those we love. While we are having dinner together we are reminded of YHWH's goodness throughout the day, His bountiful provisions, having our family, our friends, and many good things He gives us to enjoy each day, all provided to us by His outstretched Hand. We are also reminded of those who don't know our Father and His love and His provisions as we've been blessed. Our thoughts and prayers and plans to help others often come together around the table where we eat together.

The table where we eat is a place of giving thank offerings, peace offerings and praise offerings for what YHWH has done for us in His Mashiyach. We remember the cup of wine and the bread and the words of Mashiyach Y'shua who said... "I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of Elohim shall come." (Luke 22:18) When we do the brachot (blessings) we remember that the King of the Universe reigns over our souls our families, our homes and over the borders of our gates. This is why we sanctify our homes unto YHWH and we separate ourselves to YHWH and protect ourselves and our family from unclean spirits and carnal worldly things.

The marriage bed is holy and set apart unto YHWH. What if all "Believers" were able to"receive" a the Way of maintaining Joy, Peace and Justice in their marriages? What impact would it have if every married couple and every child knew that going home meant they would have a place of safety, respect, honor and be loved and cherished? Much of the unity of the home is derived from the honor of the marriage bed and the love and unity between a husband and wife.

The problem is many Believers don't even think it's possible to "receive" deeper levels of beauty and harmony into their lives and homes. Understanding functional "kabbalah" helps us to "raise the bar", we can open our minds to "holy thoughts" and translate that into holy actions. Clearly evil forces have put fear into people's minds about "kabbalah"... but Mashiyach said...

"The truth will set you free..."

And the spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of YHWH: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

Isaiah 11:2-5

HaMashiyach Y'shua demonstrated:

1) Spirit of YHWH

2) Wisdom

3) Understanding

4) Counsel

5) Might

6) Knowledge

7) Fear of YHWH

"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,

and a Netzer (Sprout) shall grow out of his roots:"

Isaiah 11:1

Y'shua Mashiyach is the Netzer (Sprout) which grew out of the Root of Ye'shai (Jesse), these Seven Attributes signify the Character and Calling of HaMashiyach. Each of these "attributes" are very unique. These are the "SEVEN Spirits of YHWH" Revelations 5:6. The Scriptures reveal that the FEAR of YHWH is the beginning of WISDOM. This is "kabbalah", it is the Seventh attribute, mentioned many times throughout Scripture. Five times Scripture tells us that the FEAR of YHWH brings Wisdom. In an additional two more verses FEAR and WISDOM are mentioned in the same verse, bringing a total of SEVEN references in Scripture that connects the Fear of YHWH with Wisdom. But false religion for example outright rejects the "FEAR" of YHWH. Religions teach a theology that the FEAR of YHWH is not really FEAR, but REVERENCE, or LOVE, but the word fear is YIRAH, which is "fear". Albeit a very unique and special "fear" that is given expressly unto YHWH, and mentioned 45 times in Scripture.

"And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the YIRAH (fear) of Elohim is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake."

B'resheet/Genesis 20:11

"And Moshe said unto the people, "YAREH (Fear) not: for Elohim is come to prove you, and that His YIRAH (Fear) may be before your faces, that ye sin not."

Shemot/Exodus 20:20

"Who knows the power of thine anger?

even according to thy YIRAH (fear), so is your wrath!"

Psalm 90:11

"Then were the men Gadol Yirah Yareh (exceedingly "fearful" afraid), and said unto him, Why have you done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of YHWH, because he had told them."

Jonah 1:10

Notice the last verse Gadol Yirah Yareh. The Fear of YHWH "YIRAH" is linked with "Yareh", which means fear, afraid, terror etc. But what false authority has done, is to use theology to make an image of it's own god, and in fact their "fear" is taught by the theology of men.

"Wherefore Adonai (the Master) said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their YIRAH (fear) toward me is taught by the precept of men:"

Isaiah 29:13

False theology depicts their gods as being a nice god of love, forgiving all willful and perpetual sins according to a man made image of god. Certainly YHWH *is* love, "Because Elohim is love; and whoever does not love, does not know Elohim." (1 John 4: Cool

Those who teach that the Fear of YHWH is not FEAR, but REVERENCE, find their religious roots in Marcion, the guy who coined the words "Old and New Testament". Many Christian Bible theologians, translated the word Hebrew Yareh and Shachah into the word REVERENCE. This is how hirelings and false authorities keep the money rolling into their churches and synagogues, they preach acceptance, relativity and tolerance of sin and evil, rather than intimacy with Father YHWH.

Fear of YHWH is a spiritual connection between us and our Father. When we are in the valley of decision, whether we will sanctify His Name, keep Torah, suffer for Mashiyach's name, lose our jobs, get kicked out of a church or synagogue by standing for truth etc, it's at these times that our "FEAR" of YHWH overrules the fear of man. What false leaders want us to do is fear them, be afraid of being rebuked or chastened or finding ourselves on the bad side of the rabbi, priest or pastor. So what they have done is diminish our responsibility to YHWH and His Mashiyach, but advocating that we NOT Fear YHWH, but rather fear them. This is very obvious when "believers" have difficult decisions to make and rather than seek YHWH they run to a rabbi, pastor or priest for their answer and consolation.

No, again it's how you can "receive" your understanding of FEAR, whether it be taught to you by theology or by "receiving" this within your own spirit according to the Word of YHWH being written upon your heart.

"You shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence (yareh) my sanctuary: I am YHWH." Shemot/Exodus 19:30

"And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate, bowed, and (shachah) reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence."

Esther 3:2

"Shachah" is most commonly translated as worship, bow down, make obeisance etc. The false church system has completely and utterly removed the original and true FEAR of YHWH right out of their churches, in so doing they've opened the door to all manner of counterfeit teachings.

The FEAR of YHWH is an extremely important revelation for the Body of Mashiyach. What is the FEAR of YHWH then? YHWH is a SPIRIT, an intimate FEAR of YHWH is something we must receive from YHWH, it is not a theology but a LIVING SPIRIT which YHWH puts in His people to help us from falling into carnal living and sinning against His Word.

The FEAR of YHWH becomes a "spiritual instinct"; a quality of discernment that allows us to see the boundaries YHWH has given us according to His Word. KADOSH (SET-APART) also depicts the boundaries or set-apart Nature of YHWH and all that pertains to Him, including His people. This is something to be "received" of the Ruach HaKodesh. Personal living "KABBALAH" is vital, it has extensive ramifications when it comes to our perception of YHWH and Y'shua. Speaking of RAMifications, let's consider Avraham and Yitzhak.

When Avraham was about to sacrifice his son Yitzhak, YHWH spoke through him,

"Abraham said, My son, Elohim (G-d) will provide himself

a SEH (LAMB) for a burnt offering:"

Genesis 22:8

Five verses later we read,

"And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked,

and behold behind him a 'AYIL (RAM) caught in a thicket by his horns:"

Genesis 22:13.

The SEH (Lamb) YHWH promised to Avraham is Yeshua the Word of YHWH. Avraham "received" this from YHWH. It was Mashiyach who spoke with Avraham, Yitzhak and Ya'akov, the WORD OF YHWH who said He would provide HIMSELF A LAMB. The WORD of YHWH is Pure and Faithful. So mankind tortured and put to death the Perfect Lamb of Elohim, who by His suffering took away our sin and empowers us to live free of sin. Who killed Mashiyach? You and I or was it the Jews or the Romans? Again, religion offers another gospel that takes the responsibility for sin off their flocks and puts it on others.

There is NO other acceptable "sin sacrifice" available today. When we speak of sacrifice we speak of an exchange of our debt of sin for forgiveness. If we can "receive" this truth, then we must realize that when we hurt another person, even unintentionally, we are indebted to make restitution and be restored with them in Mashiyach. The single most important reality in our existence is that we only enjoy so many wonderful things in this LIFE because it has been paid for us.

The majority of people on earth believe in the concept and ideals of Mashiyach. About one in four people on earth believe Yeshua is Mashiyach. That a person would even BELIEVE in something metaphysical or spiritual that they can't physically touch is "kabbalah". Kabbalah is spiritual revelation regardless of whether we believe or not that we are also "spiritual beings". The fact is that we exist, body, soul and SPIRIT, so it's not a matter of whether a person accepts or rejects the idea of kabbalah. It's a matter of which "kabbalah" we will choose and which one chooses us.

If you're reading this paper, it's most likely that you are choosing to learn the kabbalah of YHWH and His Mashiyach Yeshua, not the Kabbalah of man, or some anti-Messiah cult religion. The WAY to learn kabbalah from the Ruach HaKodesh is to keep YHWH's Commandments. Meditate on His Word. Choose to do what YHWH says. Rejoice in our Father YHWH. It is YHWH who gave us Life and Who sustains life.

"Then said his wife unto him, Do you still retain your integrity? curse Elohim, and die.

But he said unto her, you speak as one of the foolish women speaks.

What? shall we QABAL (receive) good at the hand of Elohim,

and shall we not QABAL (receive) evil?

In all this Job did not sin with his lips."

Job 2:9,10

"Hear counsel, and QABAL (receive) instruction,

that you may be wise in your latter end."

Proverbs 19:20

Throughout Y'shua's ministry he opened up our spirits by teaching "Truly I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of Elohim as a little child, he shall not enter therein." Mark 10:15

John taught that "...A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven" John 3:27

Y'shua taught things that were difficult for many to understand and accept, when addressing those who would become eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom he said "...All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given." Matthew 19:11

"And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for He dwells with you, and shall be in you." John 14:16-17

Regrettably, many "believers" refuse to receive the "comforter", they have settled for a theology or a religious identity about spirituality rather than choosing to live life as spiritual beings. Many cannot turn from rebellion and lies and gossip against Torah and Mashiyach and YHWH's people because they have not loved the Father according to His Word and Spirit. The Way back (teshuva) to the Father is through repentance and humility and acknowledging our sins and doubts to Him, along with those who are His people. If we judge ourselves by ourselves we are very foolish. The standard we are judge ourselves by is Mashiyach Y'shua himself. Ask YHWH to reveal to us who we are. If someone asks, "who are you?" What would you say? Do you know, or have you simply prepared an answer? I pray that you will receive your answer from YHWH according to His Ruach haKodesh.

"And Y’shua said to them again, “Peace be with you.

As my Father has sent me, I also send you.”

And when he said these things, he breathed on them

and said to them, “Receive the Ruach haKodesh.”

John 20:22

mugglez Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:49 am

lilly/suzi, get off your boney ass, turn off the tv/idiot box............. lmao

, turn off the computer.................do you see LIFE? I do, and it's getting better ALL the time................evolutionary Science is FAQCTUAL, I Posted the beginning of the Earths atmosphere which includes oxygen, this is before the appearance of the Hominid life form, ALL humans, Adam, enoch, Cain, Noah, Shem breathed the Earths Atmosphere which includes oxygen........only the rankest of idiots and liars would attempt to do what you do......rewrite history in an idiotic manner.

Let's be honest.............. thumbs up

You are Anti-YHWH

Anti-Yahshua Messiah

Anti-Torah-the Word/Instruction of YHWH/God

You are Anti-Israel

Anti-Jew by embracing the perverted Replacemnet Theology.

I have proven you wrong on every belief you have, this is no different.............the Biblical History from the time of Adam took place on an Earth that had already divided its Continents and the tmosphere included Oxygen............you have been brainwashed by some idiots and morons and that is what you have become. thumbs up

I have asked you repeatedly to define the words Tsiyon/Zion and Mitzraim and support your answer with credentialed evidence....so far you have run like a coward.........anything change?

Explain this................ thumbs up

The Sefirotic tree of life

The ten sefirot or the ten ementions of Hashem's divine attributes is an exclusively Jewish concept. I doubt I have to explain to you the pervasiveness of this concept in kabbalistic texts. The kabbalists provide a path in which to travel up and down these sefirot and the following is the top-down path. Beginning at Keter (will of Hashem) you go to Chochmah (wisdom), then Binah (understanding), and then to Chesed (kindness goodness), and next to Gevurah (Power strength). From there you move to Tiferet (glory) and then to Netzach (endurance) and Hod (patience). You then come to Yesod (foundation, Torah, and the Zadakim) which links to the final sphere Malkut (the kingdom of Hashem).

Compare to the New Testament.
Colossians 1:9-15 “That is why we, from the day we heard, have not ceased praying for you, and asking that you be filled with the knowledge of his will (Keter) in all wisdom (Chochmah) and spiritual understanding (Binah), to walk worthily of the master, pleasing all, bearing fruit in every good work (Chesed) and increasing in the knowledge of Elohim (hidden sepherah of Da'at), being empowered with all power (Gevurah), according to the might of his glory (Tiferet), for all endurance (Netzach) and patience (Hod) with joy, giving thanks to the father who has made us fit to share in the inheritance of the holy ones in the light (Yesod), who has delivered us from the authority of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the son of his love (Malkut), in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, who is the likeness of the invisible Elohim, the first-born of all creation. (The Sepherotic tree of life.)

Rabbi Shaul not only hits every emanation, but he also hits them in order which certainly rules out any chance of coincidence.

BECAUSE, you don't know Hebrew and you hate the Jews and Israel you have a perverted, shallow and idiotic understanding of Scripture......................you remain a False Prophet..................... thumbs up

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 False_teachers

mugglez Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:00 pm

The Genesis enigma: How DID the Bible describe the evolution of life 3,000 years before Darwin?

The revalation came to Professor Andrew Parker during a visit to Rome. He was in the Sistine Chapel, gazing up at Michelangelo's awesome ceiling paintings, when a realisation struck him with dizzying force.
'A Biblical enigma exists that is on the one hand so cryptic it has remained camouflaged for millennia, and on the other so obvious one cannot miss it.'
The enigma is that the order of Creation as described in the Book of Genesis, and so powerfully depicted in the Sistine Chapel by the greatest artist of the Renaissance, has been precisely, eerily confirmed by modern evolutionary science.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200486/The-Genesis-enigma-How-DID-Bible-evolution-life-3-000-years-Darwin.html#ixzz1b9nxnfUA

Yet how on earth could this be possible? And why had nobody noticed it before?
Such was the starting point of Parker's jaw-dropping new book, The Genesis Enigma: an astounding work which seeks to prove that the ancient Hebrew writers of the Book of Genesis knew all about evolution - 3,000 years before Darwin.
It takes a journey back through aeons of geological time, and also into the minds and imaginations of the ancient Israelites.
Andrew Parker is a leading scientist in his field: a research fellow at Oxford University, research leader at the Natural History Museum, and as if that weren't enough, a professor at Shanghai's Jiao Tong university.
As a scientist he never paid much heed to the Book of Genesis, assuming, like most of his colleagues, that such primitive mythology - which is believed to have been compiled from several sources between 950 and 500 BC - has long since been 'disproved' by hard scientific fact.
But after his Sistine Chapel moment, he went back to look at Genesis in more detail. And what he read astonished him. It was even, he says, 'slightly scary'.
Somehow - God alone knew how - the writer or writers of that ancient text had described how the evolution of life on earth took place in precise detail and perfect order.
Our ancestors possessed a truly timeless wisdom It is always disturbing and haunting to encounter an ancient wisdom that seems to anticipate or even exceed our own.
More fanciful writers immediately start to theorise wildly: that those who built the pyramids, or Stonehenge, must have been guided by super-intelligent aliens, that sort of thing.
Andrew Parker, a scientist and proud of it, has no time for such twaddle. But he does gradually come to understand, in the course of his investigations, that our ancestors of thousands of years ago, though they may not have had iPods and plasma-screen televisions, nevertheless possessed a wisdom that was, quite literally, timeless: as true now as it was then.
In the Book of Genesis, God first and most famously creates heaven and earth, but 'without form', and commands: 'Let there be light.' A perfect description of the Big Bang, that founding moment of our universe some 13 billion years ago, an unimaginable explosion of pure energy and matter 'without form' out of nothing - the primordial Biblical 'void'.
He then creates the dry land out of the waters, but it is the water that comes first. As Parker points out, scientists today understand very similarly that water is indeed crucial for life.

When 'astrobiologists' look into space for signs of life on other planets, the first thing they look for is the possible presence of water.
On the third day, we are told: 'God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."'
Now factually speaking, grass didn't evolve until much later. In the Triassic and Jurassic epochs, the dinosaurs knew only plants such as giant conifers and tree ferns. But since grass did not in fact evolve until much later, a sternly literal-minded scientist would declare the Bible wrong, and consign it to the nearest wheelie bin.
But wait a minute, says Parker. If you take 'grass, herb and tree' to mean photosynthesising life in general, then this is, once again, spot on.

The very life forms on earth were single-celled bacteria, but the first truly viable bacteria were the 'cyanobacteria' - those that had learned to photosynthesise.
As a result, they began to expire oxygen, creating an atmosphere that could go on to support more and more life. They were the key to life on earth.
Naturally, says Parker, 'the ancient Israelites would have been oblivious to any single-celled life form, let alone cyanobacteria', but 'grass' as a loose description of life forms that photosynthesise?
On the fourth day, Genesis famously becomes confusing. On the first day, remember, God has already created light, and made Day and Night. But it isn't until day four that he makes the lights in heaven, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser the night.
Hang on - so he made 'Day' three days before he made the Sun? Houston, I think we have a problem.

Yet the writers of Genesis were just as well aware as us, surely, that the sunrise causes the day. You don't need a degree in astronomy to work that one out. What on earth did they mean?
Here, The Genesis Enigma comes up with a stunningly ingenious answer. For Parker argues that day four refers to the evolution of vision.
Until the first creatures on earth evolved eyes, in a sense, the sun and moon didn't exist. There was no creature on earth to see them, nor the light they cast.

When Genesis says: 'Let there be lights... To divide the day from the night,' it is talking about eyes.
'The very first eye on earth effectively turned on the lights for animal behaviour,' writes Professor Parker, 'and consequently for further rapid evolution.'
Almost overnight, life suddenly grew vastly more complex. Predators were able to hunt far more efficiently, and so prey had to evolve fast too - or get eaten.

The moment that there were 'lights', or eyes, then life exploded into all its infinite variety.
And yet again, that's what Genesis says happened, and in the correct environment too. In the sea.
For on the very next day of Creation, the fifth day: 'God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life."'

That is exactly what happened. Life that had hitherto been lived in the dark, by simple, slow-moving, worm-like creatures, erupted into dazzling diversity. We know all about it from the world famous Burgess Shale fossils.
They were discovered in the summer of 1909 by one Charles Doolittle Walcott, on holiday with his family in the Canadian Rockies. Walcott began to chip away at the shale with his geological hammer, and quite by chance stumbled upon one of the greatest finds in all science.

For the shale records what happened on our planet around 508 million years ago, long before the first dinosaurs: the 'Cambrian expolosion,' which most scientists now think was indeed the direct result of the evolution of vision.

Life on earth exploded in all its infinite variety The life-forms discovered look like nothing else: fabulous, phantasmagoric, alien beings. One had five eyes, and a long wavy snout with jaws on the end. Another looked like an octopus with its head stuck in a beaker, and another can only be described as 'a swimming pea with a pair of beady eyes, bull's horns, a pair of "hands" and a fish's tail.'
Others resemble balls of spines, vase-shaped pin-cushions, or badminton shuttlecocks with chameleon-like tongues. Anyone who doubts the power of evolution by natural selection only has to look at the Burgess Shale fossils.
How does Genesis describe the teeming aquatic life of the Cambrian explosion? 'And God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life." ' Immediately following the creation of vision.
How did the writer/writers know that life suddenly diversified into this rich and staggering variety, under the oceans, not on land? Why would a very much land-based people, pastoralists and shepherds, even think like this?
After the Cambrian come the Ordovician, Silurian and Devonian periods - or the appearance of 'great whales', as Genesis succinctly puts it.
How better to describe those epochs which gave us such monsters of the deep as Dunkleosteus, a carnivorous armoured fish whose appearance, says Parker, was 'simply terrifying'. Some 35ft long, 'the size of a small coach', with massive, bone-crunching jaws, even its eyes were armoured.
And after the sea monsters come the birds, the animals, cattle, and finally, homo sapiens. All present and correct, and all still in the right order. Once again, 'In describing how the planet and life around us came to be, the writer of the Genesis narrative got it disturbingly right'.
So what should we make of the extraordinary findings of The Genesis Enigma?
Professor Parker is clear on this subject. 'It would be a great shame if my findings were either misused in an attempt to suggest that scientists themselves are unsure about science, or pounded out of all recognition into support of the seven-day creation premise.'
There is no doubt that literal-minded Creationists do a disservice to the triumphant achievements of modern science, and to the beauty and poetry of the Bible. Evolution is taking place around us all the time. It's why the MRSA superbug has become so dangerously immune to antibiotics, why the race is on to beat the swine flu virus.
Nevertheless, when Parker comes to explaining how the writers of Genesis knew what they knew, he can only conclude that it was due to 'divine intervention', or 'a lucky guess'. Since the odds of the latter seem fantastically remote, Parker tentatively suggests the former.

Is this credentialed, sourced and vetted information beyond your comprehension suzi?

I can dumb it down.................your argument that I didn't start at the beginning is idiotic and moronic, it doesn't matter...all the Evolutionary events are place in their accurate chronological order refuting your perverted interpretation of the Jews Holy Scripture...........ISRAEL is/remains the eternal promised land....you claim that god lied when He made an eternal promise to the Jews, that God 'goes back' on His Word....................that is pure Blasphemy....... thumbs up

well done you old whore........... lmao

true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:28 am

...and anyone who can't see through 'you',
doesn't care to, and deserves to share 'your' end.
David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 192845-cumani

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 088502-the-valley-039-s-dark-horse

...and yeah, those who know, know, what's really being said in The News...
...besides all I posted over the years, that has come to be...and that's why,
'tintin' avoids The News like the plague, except for the odd bits he throws in
(lest too many notice his off topic spamming of his own thread), to misuse
to twist backward to HIS, FEAR AND WORSHIP DEATH, DEMAND.

Oh, and...I bet none of 'you' noticed the ...ah bugger it...'you' don't deserve
any more 'heads up' David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 449107794

...but for any thinking readers...note who doth
protest way to much, with a bunch of contradictions, meant to be too wordy
for anyone to bother with and so notice the contradictions, SPAMMED all over
THIS PRO-ICKE and 'his' minions, site...but if it's back stabbing liars you want to
make 'friends' with, simply join 'them' with more of SPAMMING of the clap trap,
that 'they' so luuvvvv... Rolling Eyes

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mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:17 am

WHAT contradictions are those suzi?

Like when you claim to 'go toe to toe' with your forum colleagues and instead you run like a coward and refuse to face Historical FACTS?

Like that?

Or you claim not to be Anti-Semitic yet you twist/misinterpret the Jewish Hebrew scriptures, then you claim YHWH, Blessed be His Name, is a liar and has broken His Eternal Covenant with the Jews and the Land of Israel and transferred it to pagans such as yourself and Australia?

Smoke another one you dingbat. thumbs up

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mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:02 pm

Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.

smoke another one ziggy, I've Posted a whole Thread on the Kabbalah, you must of missed it.......and NO.cigtard, I don't think 'Jesus' is 'magick'......He was employing Science and Physics beyond our understanding..as a matter of FACT I queried all the Pagans/Heathens at DIFtardia if they understood the DIFFERENCe between magick and the Miracles of Yahshua............without a nanoparticle of Doubt, Yahshua was teaching, embodying the Torah/Instruction of YHWH, all 4 levels...... thumbs up

And.for the Record, any so called 'kabbalah' that is not Torah Based is Bullshit Kabbalah.......quite popular amongst the moral relativist Pagans............. thumbs up

Levels 1-4.... thumbs up

and so was Paul...................IQ=180 +

I also provided a Thread of the Torahs Message/Meme, providing an opportunity to be honest..............you 'passed'. thumbs up

http://www.inner.org/hebleter/alef.htm

The Hebrew Letters
Shin: The Eternal Flame
The letter shin appears engraved on both sides of the head- tefilin. On the right side, the shin possesses three heads, while on the left side it possesses four heads. In Kabbalah we are taught that the three-headed shin is the shin of this world while the four- headed shin is the shin of the World to Come.

The secret of the shin is "the flame [Divine Revelation] bound to the coal [Divine Essence]." A simmering coal actually possesses an invisible flame within it, which emerges and ascends from the surface of the coal when the coal is blown upon. The three levels: coal, inner flame, and outer flame, correspond to the secret of chash-mal-mal, as will be explained in the next letter, the tav.

One of the meanings of the word shin in Hebrew is shinui, "change." The coal symbolizes changeless essence, the secret of the verse: "I am God, I have not changed," meaning that relative to God's Essence absolutely no change has occurred from before Creation to after Creation. The inner flame is the paradoxical latent presence of the power of change within the changeless. The outer flame of the shin is continuously in a state of motion and change.

As in the above-quoted verse, the changeless Essence is the secret of the Name Havayah. The power of change, as latently present within God’s Essence before Creation and thereafter revealed in the infinite intricacy and beauty of an ever-dancing flame, is the secret of the explicit Name of Creation, Elokim, the only Name of God which appears in the plural. The number of the letter shin, 300, unites these two Divine Names as the "flame bound to the coal." In at'bash, the Name Havayah transforms to the letters mem-tzadik-pei-tzadik, which total 300. The five letters of Elokim (alef-lamed-hei-yud-mem) when written in full, also equal 300.

The three heads of the shin of this world correspond to the three levels of the changeless, potential, and actual change as discussed above. In this world, the changeless is symbolized only by a black, dark coal, not as the revealed light of the flame. Nonetheless the endurance of the flame depends upon the changeless essence of the coal. In the World to Come, the changeless essence will reveal itself within the flame. This revelation of the future is the secret of the fourth head of the shin.

In the flame of a candle one sees three levels of light: the "dark light" around the wick of the candle, the white flame encompassing it, and an amorphous aura around the white flame itself. Each of these three levels of revealed light manifests a dimension contained within the invisible flame present in the coal. In general the flame symbolizes love, as is said: "as mighty as death is love...the flame of God." The dark light corresponds to the love of Israel, souls enclothed within physical bodies. The white light corresponds to the love of Torah. The aura corresponds to the love of God. These are the three essential manifestations of love as taught by the Ba'al Shem Tov. The fourth head of the shin of the future - the revelation of the essence of the coal itself - corresponds to the love of the Land of Israel and, as our Sages teach: "the Land of Israel will in the future spread to incorporate all the lands of the earth."

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FORM

Three vavs, each with a yud on top, rise from a common base- point.
Symbol of symmetry; Form of a flame.

Worlds:

•Stability and harmony in nature.
•Positive and negative grace; Symmetry groups.
Souls:

•Finding grace in the eyes of God.
•The grace of the Jewish people in each other's eyes.
•The 3 vavs represent the three Patriarchs; the 4 vavs, the Matriarchs.
•The 3 vavs represent "Kohanim," "Levites," "Israelites"; the fourth, righteous converts.
•"No lie can endure if not based on truth."
Divinity:

•Divine Perfection and Grace; The three lines, or pillars, of the sefirot.
•The "army of God"; The shin of the tefilin.
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NAME

A year; change; a tooth; scarlet; serenity; to sleep; to teach; two; sharp; old; viceroy.

Worlds:

•Natural changes in the yearly cycle.
•Tooth - power of decomposition and entropy.
•The fiery scarlet of the priestly garments.
•"I am asleep..." "in exile"; Aging.
Souls:

•The fire of Torah; Sharpness in learning.
•The second to the King; The double Shabbat loaves.
•The Mishnah; "...yet my heart is awake."
Divinity:

•The "immovable power" that causes all motion.
•"I am God, I have not changed."
•Peace and serenity; The "shin" of the mezuzah.
•The accelerated change of the future toward the changeless.

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NUMBER

Three hundred

Worlds:

•Three hundred foxes sent to burn down the fields of the Philistines.
•Three hundred arrows pierced King Yoshiyahu.
•Three hundred years Israel worshipped idolatry in the days of the Judges.
Souls:

•Three hundred fox-parables of Rabbi Meir.
•Three thousand parables of King Solomon.
•Three hundred firstborn Levites; Three hundred soldiers of Gideon.
Divinity:

•Three hundred halachot concerning "a mighty bright spot."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "you shall not let a sorceress live."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "the tower soaring in air."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "and the name of his wife was Meheitavel."
•"Is not my word like fire and like a hammer that breaks rock into pieces?"
•"The spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters."
•The full spelling of the Name Elokim (and the Name Havayah in at'bash).

The Hebrew Letters
Alef: The Paradox of God and Man

The alef is formed by two yuds, one to the upper right and the other to the lower left, joined by a diagonal vav. These represent the higher and lower waters and the firmament between them, as taught by the Ari z"l ("Rabbi Isaac Luria of blessed memory," who received and revealed new insights into the ancient wisdom of Kabbalah)

Water is first mentioned in the Torah in the account of the first day of Creation: "And the spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water." At this time the higher and the lower waters were indistinguishable; their state is referred to as "water in water." On the second day of Creation God separated the two waters by "stretching" the firmament between them.

In the service of the soul, as taught in Chassidut, the higher water is water of joy, the experience of being close to God, while the lower water is water of bitterness, the experience of being far from God.

In Jewish philosophy, the two intrinsic properties of water are "wet" and "cold." The higher water is "wet" with the feeling of oneness with the "exaltation of God," while the lower water is "cold" with the feeling of separation, the frustration of experiencing the inherent "lowliness of man." Divine service, as taught by Chassidut, emphasizes that in fact the primary consciousness of both waters is the sense of the Divine, each from its own perspective: from the perspective of the higher water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the oneness of all in His Absolute Being; from the perspective of the lower water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the existential gap between the reality of God and that of man, thus the inherent "lowliness of man."

The Talmud tells of four sages who entered the "Pardes," the mystical orchard of spiritual elevation reached only through intense meditation and Kabbalistic contemplations. The greatest of the four, Rabbi Akiva, said to the others before entering, "When you come to the place of pure marble stone, do not say 'water-water,' for it is said, 'He who speaks lies shall not stand before my eyes.'" The Ari z"l explains that the place of "pure marble stone" is where the higher and the lower waters unite. Here one must not call out 'water-water,' as if to divide the higher and lower waters. "The place of pure marble stone" is the place of truth--the Divine power to bear two opposites simultaneously; in the words of Rabbi Shalom ben Adret: "the paradox of paradoxes." Here "the exaltation of God" and His "closeness" to man unite with the "lowliness of man" and his "distance" from God.

The Torah begins with the letter beit: "Bereishit (In the beginning) God created the heavens and the earth." The Ten Commandments, the Divine revelation to the Jewish People at Sinai, begin with the letter alef: "Anochi [I] am God your God who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." The Midrash states that "higher reality" had been set apart from "lower reality," for God had decreed that neither higher reality descend nor lower reality ascend. In giving the Torah, God annulled His decree, He Himself being the first to descend, as it is written: "And God came down on Mount Sinai". Lower reality, in turn, ascended: "And Moses approached the cloud...." The union of "higher reality," the upper yud, with the "lower reality," the lower yud, by means of the connecting vav of Torah, is the ultimate secret of the letter alef.

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FORM

A yud above and a yud below with a vav separating and uniting them simultaneously. The secret of the image in which man was created.

Worlds:

•The upper and lower waters with the firmament between them.

•In the world:

◦The upper atmosphere, the lower atmosphere, the ocean & water table.

◦Energy waves, the atmosphere, the hydrological cycle.

•In the human body:

◦The respiratory system, the diaphragm, the digestive system .

◦The skull-water, the membrane, the brain-moisture.

Souls:

•Feeling both close to God and distant from Him with commitment to Torah and mitzvot balancing these emotions.

•"Crying is enwedged in my heart on one side, while joy is enwedged in my heart on the other side."
Divinity:

•Transcendent and Immanent Light with the contraction (tzimtzum) and impression (reshimu) between them.

•Man in perfect unity with the Infinite Will of God.

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NAME

Oxen; thousand; teaching; master.

Worlds:

•Oxen--gross physical reality, the lower animal soul.

•Thousand--multiplicity in Creation, the "thousand mountains grazed by the ox."

•The yoke of the ox yielding a thousandfold and returning to unity.

Souls:

•"I will teach you wisdom"; the root of the soul is derived from the wisdom of God.

•Direct insight of Divine truth; to be nothing.

Divinity:

•"Master of the universe."

•The Divine "One" revealing itself throughout the plurality of Creation.

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NUMBER

One

Worlds:

•First of all countable numbers.

•The beginning of process in nature and sequence of worldly events.

•One counts "something from something."

Souls:

•"One nation in the land."

•The organic unity of all Jewish souls.

•One counts "something from nothing."

Divinity:

•"God is One": the absolute unity of God.

•"There is none other besides Him:" "One, single, and unique."

•One counts "nothing from something

Did you notice the Aleph is 2 yods and an Vav? thumbs up

The Hebrew Letters
Yud: The Infinite Point
The letter yud, a small suspended point, reveals the spark of essential good hidden within the letter tet. Subsequent to the initial tzimtzum, the contraction of G-d's Infinite light in order to make "place" for Creation, there remained within the empty void a single, potential point or "impression." The secret of this point is the power of the Infinite to contain finite phenomena within Himself and express them to apparent external reality. Finite manifestation begins from a zero-dimensional point, thereafter developing into a one-dimensional line and two-dimensional surface. This is alluded to in the full spelling of the letter yud (yud-vav-dalet): "point" (yud), "line" (vav), "surface" (dalet). These three stages correspond in Kabbalah to: "point" (nekudah), "spectrum" (sefirah), "figure" (partzuf). The initial point, the essential power of the yud, is the "little that holds much." The "much" refers to the simple Infinity of G-d hidden within the initial point of revelation, which reflects itself as the Infinite potential of the point to develop and express itself in all the manifold finite phenomena of time and space.

Before the tzimtzum, the power of limitation was hidden, latent within G-d's Infinite Essence. Following the tzimtzum, this power of limitation became revealed, and paradoxically the Infinite Essence of G-d that originally "hid" the power of limitation now Itself became hidden (not in truth, but only from our limited human perspective) within the point of contracted light.

From within this point of limitation is revealed the secret of the ten sefirot, the Divine channels of light through which G-d continually brings His world into being. Ten, the numerical value of the yud, is also the number of commandments (literally "statements") revealed by G-d to His People Israel at Sinai. All the commandments, and in fact every letter of Torah, possess the power of the "little that holds much"; each is a channel for the revelation of G-d's Infinite Light in finite reality.

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FORM

A "formed" point: a crown above and a "pathway" below.
The smallest of the letters; The only letter suspended in midair.

Worlds:

•The "pathway" of the yud; The initial point of space and time.
•Natural wisdom: "The wisdom of Solomon."
•Direction and purpose: the consciousness of the present moment.
Souls:

•The "body" of the yud; The enwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" as manifest in the judgment of Solomon.
•The power of self-nullification.
Divinity:

•The crown of the yud above; The unenwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" inspiring and directing Solomon's genius.
•Revealed Omnipresence; The beginning and end of every letter (form).

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NAME

Hand; to thrust.

Worlds:

•The secret of space; To thrust - the principle of action and reaction.
•The wave-nature of radiation.
Souls:

•Intelligence; Friendship.
•To acknowledge - to make space for others; Empathy
Divinity:

•G-d's "hand" - the Infinite Will and ability to sustain the Creation.
•Charity, physical and spiritual.
•"Shaking G-d's Hand": identifying with archetypal souls and Temple service.
•G-d's thought - the origin of the Jewish soul.

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NUMBER

Ten; "The tenth shall be holy"; the decimal nature of reality.

Worlds:

•Ten Divine utterances through which the world was created.
•Ten things created on the first day.
•Ten things created at dusk at the end of the first Friday.
•Ten generations from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham.
•Ten kings ruled the whole world; Ten nations given to Abraham.
•Ten pure animals; Ten categories of forbidden magic.
•Ten battles of Joshua; Ten essential limbs of the body.
Souls:

•The sefirot - Spiritual Powers; Ten categories of the souls of Israel.
•Ten trials of Abraham; A minyan of ten men.
•Ten synonyms for prayer; Ten synonyms for song.
•Ten cardinal songs sung throughout history.
•Ten martyrs of Israel; Ten spiritual functions of the heart.
Divinity:

•Ten Commandments; Ten plagues.
•Ten miracles in the Holy Temple; Ten days of repentance.
•Yom Kippur--the tenth day; The Divine Name ten times on Yom Kippur.
•Ten names of Ruach HaKodesh; Ten are called "the man of G-d."
•Ten verses of Kingdom, Remembrance and Shofar-blast.
•Ten synonyms for teshuvah.

The Hebrew Letters
Vav: Connection
In the beginning of Creation, when Infinite Light filled all reality, G d contracted His Light to create hollow empty space, as it were, the "place" necessary for the existence of finite worlds. Into this vacuum God drew down, figuratively speaking, a single line of light, from the Infinite Source. This ray of light is the secret of the letter vav. Though the line is singular in appearance, it nonetheless possesses two dimensions, an external as well as an internal force, both of which take part in the process of Creation and the continuous interaction between the creative power and created reality.

The external force of the line is the power to differentiate and separate the various aspects of reality, thereby establishing hierarchical order, up and down, within Creation. The internal force of the line is the power to reveal the inherent interinclusion of the various aspects of reality, one in the other, thereby joining them together as an organic whole. This property of the letter vav, in its usage in Hebrew, is referred to as vav hachibur, the vav of connection"--"and." The first vav of the Torah--"In the beginning G d created the heavens and [vav] the earth"--serves to join spirit and matter, heaven and the earth, throughout Creation. This vav, which appears at the beginning of the sixth word of the Torah, is the twenty-second letter of the verse. It alludes to the power to connect and interrelate all twenty-two individual powers of Creation, the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet from alef to tav. (The word et [which appears before the two instances of the word "the" in this verse, and is spelled alef-tav] is generally taken to represent all the letters of the alphabet, from alef to tav. Our Sages interpret the word in this verse to include all the various objects of Creation present within heaven and earth.)

In Biblical Hebrew, the letter vav also possesses the function of inverting the apparent tense of a verb to its opposite from past to future or from future to past (vav hahipuch). The first appearance of this type of vav in the Torah is the letter vav" which begins the twenty-second word of the account of Creation, "And God said...." This is the first explicit saying of the ten sayings of Creation: "And G d said [the verb 'said' being inverted from the future to the past tense by the vav at the beginning of the word--'And']: 'Let there be light,' and there was light." The phenomenon of light breaking through the darkness of the tzimtzum, the primordial contraction, is itself the secret of time (future becoming past) which permeates space.

In the Divine service of a Jew, the power to draw from the future into the past is the secret of teshuvah ("repentance" and "returning to God") from love. Through teshuvah from fear, one's deliberate transgressions become like errors; the severity of one's past transgressions becomes partially sweetened, but not completely changed. However, when a Jew returns in love, his deliberate transgressions become like actual merits, for the very consciousness of distance from God resulting from one's transgressions becomes the motivating force to return to God with passion even greater than that of one who had never sinned.

Every Jew has a portion in the World to Come, as is said: "And all your nation are 'tzadikim'; forever they will inherit the land." The power of teshuvah to completely convert one's past to good, is the power of the vav to invert the past to the future. This transformation itself requires, paradoxically, the drawing down of light from the future to the past.

Drawing the future into the past in the Divine service of man is the secret of learning the inner teachings of the Torah, that aspect of the Torah which is related to the revelation of the coming of the Mashiach. Rashi explains the verse in the Song of Songs: "May he kiss me with the kisses of his mouth, for your love is better than wine" as alluding to the sweet teachings that will be revealed by the Mashiach. When a person intently studies the secrets of the Torah, he draws from the future into the past, in order to strengthen himself to return in complete teshuvah from love and thereby convert his past into future.

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FORM

A vertical line.
A pillar.
A man standing upright.

Worlds:

•Twelve pillars of Creation - the twelve lines of a cube. The twelve tribes.
•Seven pillars of Creation - six directions and time. The seven shepherds.
•One pillar of Creation the future. Mashiach.
•The connecting rods in the Tabernacle.
Souls:

•Complete stature of man - standing on earth with head reaching up towards heaven.
•The Jewish People standing together.
•The "Golden Path" in the service of God.
•The torso in relation to the hands, feet, and brit.
Divinity:

•The pillar of Truth.
•Consistency of the middle pillar.
•Divinity piercing through the middle point of every Creation.
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NAME

A Hook

Worlds:

•The connecting hooks of the pillars in the Tabernacle - concealment and revelation.
•The axis of symmetry and the equilibrium between symmetry and asymmetry.
Souls:

•The power which links together the souls of Israel.
•The points of will to do God's Will engraved in the heart of every Jew.
•The axis which connects the good points present within every Jew.
Divinity:

•The connecting link between the separate Laws - engraved letters of Divine essence - of the Torah.
•The force of connection between the Divine sparks inherent throughout reality.
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NUMBER

Six

Worlds:

•Six Days of Creation, and their six corresponding Divine forces active in creation.
•Six letters of the word bereishit, "In the beginning."
•Six alefs in the first verse of the Torah.
•Six-millennium duration of the world.
•Six directions of the physical world.
Souls:

•Six wings (states of love and fear in the soul) of the fiery angels.
•"Give truth to Jacob."
Divinity:

•Six orders of the Mishnah.
•The six "wings" of the "Magen David."
•Six cubits - the dimensions of the Tablets received by Moses at Mt. Sinai.

ciggy, for 5 years I haver Posted the 'nuts & bolts' of this most remarkable Book, it is you who is shallow, superficial, meanspirited and a bullshit artist.

Given an opportunity to be honest, you passed. thumbs up

You didn't have enough nutsack to engage the Jewish/Biblical Meme....................In contrast: I have Balls that Klangggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why you don't like me..I treated you like the bullshit punk that you are...............cease being a bullshit pansy assed punk and I'll treat you like a man...............'k? thumbs up

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true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:49 pm

le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'...and thanks to all who rejected God's
WARNING WORD, that described the times
and locations to watch for, 'They' nearly do...
AFTER WRECKING MOST OF THE WORLD,
as 'They' have been doing, through the GREENIE LIES
of 'Their' 'secular'/SATANIC propaganda.

DANIEL 11:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Dan&c=11&t=KJV#40
40;
And at the time ⁶²⁵⁶ of the end ⁷⁰⁹³
shall the king ⁴⁴²⁸ of the south ⁵⁰⁴⁵ push ⁵⁰⁵⁵ at him:
and the king ⁴⁴²⁸ of the north ⁶⁸²⁸
shall come against him like a whirlwind ⁸¹⁷⁵ ,
with chariots ⁷³⁹³, and with horsemen ⁶⁵⁷¹,
and with many ⁷²²⁷ ships ⁵⁹¹;
and he shall enter ⁹³⁵ into the countries ⁷⁷⁶,
and shall overflow ⁷⁸⁵⁷ and pass over ⁵⁶⁷⁴ .

45;
And he shall plant ⁵¹⁹³ the tabernacles ¹⁶⁸
of his palace ⁶⁴³ between the seas ³²²⁰
in the glorious ⁶⁶⁴³ holy ⁶⁹⁴⁴ mountain ²⁰²²;
yet he shall come ⁹³⁵ to his end ⁷⁰⁹³,
and none shall help ⁵⁸²⁶ him.

...and this still isn't it, but it isn't unrelated...
Oh dear, - Jane, Liverpool, UK, 19/10/2011 16:13,
Queen Elizabeth is our Monarch,
and Australia, with it's tiny 21+ million population,
can afford to offer to help your precious EU countries
out of their financial mess.

We are not a 'Banana Republic' because we are not a republic.

And something for all Australian's to consider:

how do you think an elected head of state of a country
this rich in natural resources, this large in area, and this tiny in population,
could prevent all those militarily powerful, population rich
but resource poor nations, from raiding us blind,
without Our Royal Family, watching over us?

- Lilly, Ballarat, Australia, 20/10/2011 3:06

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050818/Queen-Elizabeth-arrives-Australia-tour-country.html#ixzz1bFZjHfu3

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Her Majesty the Queen's Personal Flag for Australia
-
Since the 1964 Royal Visit of Australia, HM Queen Elizabeth II
has used in Australia a distinctive personal flag,
rather than the Royal Standard
used when she is in the United Kingdom.
The flag is a banner of the Australian Coat of Arms
with a badge consisting of the Commonwealth Star
upon which is the Queen's Royal badge
showing her initial surmounted by a crown
and surrounded by a garland of roses and wattle.
Note that the Western Australian swan
faces away from the hoist,
the same as in the Coat of Arms.
The correct proportions are 22 x 31, not
the 1 x 2 proportions
that are used for other British Royal Standards.

true lilly wrote:Should Julia Gillard have curtsied to the Queen?

Yes70.97% (1719 votes)
No 29.03% (703 votes)

Total votes: 2422

Should Australia abandon the monarchy and become a republic?

Yes 36.7% (1042 votes)
No 63.3% (1797 votes)

Total votes: 2839

true lilly wrote:Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.
true lilly wrote:Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?
Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!

Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.

Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing in May.

It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
he was ready to step aside today in the face of the government's attitude.

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_________________________________________________________
Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.

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...but I will add:
during his 3 weeks here, touring
This Glorious Land every day of those 3 weeks,
Evil or Very Mad

'TINTIN' SPAT VENOM at Evil or Very Mad

EVERY MEMORIAL TO OUR SOLDIERS,
Who FOUGHT, DIED
and WERE TORTURED as P.O.W.'s!

Yes, 'TINTIN', who RAILED AT ME,
in defence of HIS DUTCH QUEEN BEE-TRIX,
"SHE'S STILL MY QUEEN!"
"SHE IS STILL MY QUEEN!"
(Beatrix of The Netherlands),
was the First of MANY Angry rants
I received from one unstable 'poster'
(who's actual position is WAY 'above' that),
who would swing from declarations
of love, and admiration for my 'genius',
to LOUD SHOUTS of "TRAITOR", "JEW",
and then have those abuses instantly
FORGIVEN and Forgotten on claiming
to be DRUNK...AND gain More "FANS"
for those ('drunk' with), hate filled attacks.

Well, again I have to remind readers that
IT WAS FARADAY who POSTED, that TNBTN
thread doesn't 'break' CODES but USES CODE
to ORDER ATTACKS...then he also promptly,
turned on and attacked me, when I failed to
RUN Screaming In Fear of the Obvious Threats
(many of which have been carried out), still there,
PRECEDING and clearly referring to NAMES, and
ACTIONS they carried out, for any who know what
DOES goes on here, to see for themselves.

Well with that in mind, and KNOWING I Post
what God said, That THE KING of The NORTH
WILL FAIL in his Final Push at AUSTRALIA,
The Glorious Promised Land, consider what IS
CODED in this post:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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KARST dead 1 MAY

HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.

Oh, there are more 'personal' details, in the full post below, but
as they are DESIGNED to HIDE the real intent in DEAFENING"Noise",
I thought I'd give you UNinvolved, innocent readers, a hand in
recognising, WHY 'they' also put so much effort into off topic post
demanding you all believe I'm 'paranoid'...ha, I WISH I WERE,
it would sure HURT LESS than SMASHED, BROKEN BONES and
The HORROR of SEEING My DAUGHTER'S CAR BLOWN UP outside
HER BEDROOM WINDOW, and other such, 'bothers' that CARING
To FREELY PUBLISH GOD'S LOVING WORD, EARNS me FROM 'them'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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DOG and ALBANIA

WAG the DOG is about creating a WAR with ALBANIA.
The SPIN DOCTORS need to distract the electorate from
a presidential SEX SCANDAL and construct a fake war with ALBANIA.

DOGS BARK

DOGS
BARKING
ALBANIA

ALBEN BARKLEY

You have WAG THE DOG combined in this BARKING ALBEN.
Vice president under TRUMAN.

That TIME cover was on 28 JULY 1952.

I have just linked COMEDIAN WILL ROGERS
to commander WILL ROGERS of the USS VINCENNES
and also of the USS CUSHING.

Will Rogers born on
the DogIron Ranch

Tha's DOG and IRAN.
The real WAG the DOG story is the WAR WITH IRAN.
All WARS are WAG the DOG stories.
They are all fake...

ALBANIA and TIRANA.
IRAN and TEHRAN.

VANN and AMERICA were the parents of WILL ROGERS.
VANCOUVER and VANN.

WILL ROGERS and his MOTHER was AMERICA.
The MOTHER road or Main street of AMERICA. WILL ROGERS HIGHWAY.

WILL ROGERS, born on 4 NOVEMBER.

WHITE HOUSE

Will Rogers. Here his full name

WHITE HOUSE at PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
PENNSYLVANIA named after WILLIAM PENN.
WILLIAM PENN ROGERS.

WILLIAM PENN was born same date as EISENHOWER.
EISEN is IRON in german and WILL ROGERS was born
in "THE WHITE HOUSE" on the DOG IRON ranch....

Now to ADAIR.....
RED ADAIR was a legendary OIL WELL firefighter.

RED ADAIR

This is the wiki pic. Why this horrible pic?
it leads to WILLIAM BARKER CUSHING.

The night of OCTOBER 27 and 28. The RAID on the ALBEMARLE.

ADAIR
RAID

RED ADAIR and OIL WELLS that are BURNING....
We have seen that in the IRAQ wars and in KUWAIT....

Red Adair dead on
birthday MATA HARI

He died 7 AUGUST 2004.

RONALD REAGAN as the crucial link that combines all.

That highschool was NOT named after RONALD REAGAN but
after JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN.
School in HOUSTON and HOUSTON was incorporated
on the date RONALD REAGAN died. 5 JUNE.

This JOHN H. REAGAN died on 6 MARCH.
Birthday KARST TATES, thec attacker of the DUTCH ROYALS.
ALBEN BARKLEY died 30 APRIL, day of the ATTACK.

John HENNINGER Reagan

HENNINGER leads to FRANKFURT Germany.

HENNINGER Tower Frankfurt

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN died on the birthday of KARST TATES.

KARST dead 1 MAY
HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.

KARST and KROON.

KARSTEN KROON wins
HENNINGER TURM
He won it TWICE. Last time was 2008. The year before
KARST attacked the KROON.

KARST and KROON in dutch is KARST-EN-KROON.

Here the list of the latest winners of the HENNINGER TURM.

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN was a TEXAS Politician.
KARST TATES as TAXI driver Travis Bickle.....

ha, and funny thing here is, that when I was stranded,
alone, smashed up, on crutches at the police station
for hours, after leaving the hospital, it was "THE" Indian
TAXI DRIVER who was 'Bashed', who, REFUSED to take me
home because I didn't have enough money, THEN...not like
I could 'RUN away' and not pay a few days later, and 'they' all
KNEW there was no one else coming to 'rescue me' David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Rolleyes

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Rolleyes

in fact, 'they' wouldn't so much as call Victims of Crime or
The Salvos, to DO THEIR JOB and assist me, no I was finally
delivered to my house 'they' KNOW 'they' have the Keys to,
and dumped, alone, with no phone, computer, money, food
or friend to help my crippled body around a house still
trashed and covered in broken glass...and the 'message'
To You readers, is, 'if you don't want the same MIStreatment,
DON'T DARE share her Faith', but SERIOUSLY, who wants to
FOLLOW those so WEAK and LOW that even in such violent,
large and 'powerful' Gangs, CAN'T break the Faith of one,
little old woman, who ONLY David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Smile

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Smile

has God to lean on David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Biggrin

!

true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:11 pm

Ombudsman quits for 'error of judgement'
David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 781475-allan-asher

11:18AM
Matt Johnston
UPDATE 2.05pm:
COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman
Allan Asher has quit amid Greens’
claims he was
“politically assassinated”.

Yep, his "error of judgement"
was to "trust" The GREENS who are
SO QUICK and READY to "CULL"
any of 'their' puppets who become
more of a liability than 'useful' to
'their' TRAITOROUS SECRET AGENDA.

Time to face the facts about our nation's ungrateful brats:
it's not good enough for 'them' that even our poorest
have had a 4% Increase in wealth, no, 'they' want us 'free'
of our Democratic Monarchy, like America,
so our poorest can be 50% POORER.
All Loyal Australian's should learn more about the
Wealthy Foreigners of resource poor, over crowded nations,
who fund the CONspiracy Industry that's behind all this,
and speak out against 'them', and they to may get one of
'their' Most Followed CONspiracy Pushers
(who lives off their gold stashed in Swiss Banks,
while flying around the world selling that ideology
of ingratitude for blessings, and bitter lust for more 'stuff'),
fly in to spend 3 weeks in their home to try to convert them
into Traitors of Our Greatly Blessed Nation.
BTW, one of those CONspiracy Gurus,
DAVID ICKE,
who rails against the British Monarchy
(NOT The Monarchy 'tintin' is loyal to),
will be here next week.
Loyal Australians might want to protest against him,
at those 'talks'=Hypnotic Brainwashing Sessions,
that he charges the desperate and poor, dearly to attend.

Ted Baillieu, Robert Doyle
call for Occupy Melbourne protesters to leave
by:Anne Wright, Ashley Gardiner
From:Herald Sun
October 19, 2011 9:41PM
13 comments
(DO read the comments Wink

)

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Protest2_648x365_2156284988-hero

Watch
Occupy Melbourne
Protesters in the City Square have set up camp and don't want to leave any time soon

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 208786-robert-doyle

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 208786-robert-doyle

Lord Mayor Robert Doyle says the protesters have made their statement and should leave.
HWT Image Library

UPDATE 2.16pm: PREMIER Ted Baillieu has asked the Occupy Melbourne protesters in City Square to "move along".

But he would not comment on whether they should be removed against their will.
"I think the Lord Mayor has indicated that time is up," Mr Baillieu said.

"I share the view that people have a right to protest. They should do it
in a way that does not cause disruption and my advice to them is: time
to move along."
His comments come after Lord Mayor Robert Doyle gave the protesters notice
to pack up and leave.

Occupy Melbourne spokesman Nick Carson has reiterated the group is doing
nothing illegal by "standing, sitting or sleeping in public space".
Mr Carson did say that under City of Melbourne laws, tents and structures in public spaces were not permitted.

Related Coverage
'Occupy London' protest harming tourism
What do we want? WiFi. When do we want it? Now The Daily Telegraph, 1 hour ago
Occupy Wall St goes global Herald Sun, 2 days ago
Busy protesters fail to maintain the rage Herald Sun, 2 days ago
Occupy Wall Street: Anger boils over in global protests Herald Sun, 3 days ago
Occupy Brisbane protest Courier Mail, 4 days ago

"They’re keeping it up their sleeves as a potential justification for getting rid of us," he said.

As the protest continues into its sixth day, Cr Doyle said the protesters
had made their statement and would be required to leave the square in a
matter of days.
"They have made their statement," he said on ABC Radio yesterday.
"When it does come time for them to pack up and move on I would hope they do so
in a respectful manner."

But Greens MP Adam Bandt said he thought the protest was great.
"I came down to have a look and I think it's great. Julie Gillard and Tony Abbott
should come down and have a look,'' he said.
Mr Bandt said while the protesters were peaceful and not clashing with authorities they should be allowed to remain.

He said it should be up to protesters, not the Lord Mayor, to decide when they
should leave, although he doubted they'd still be camped in the square by Christmas.
Read more at the Melbourne Leader.
- with Georgie Haberfield
13 comments on this story

Oh, and Adam Bandt can't help but show his foolishness,
by suggestingour P.M. and Opposition Leader,
"should" come and pander to puppets of 'tintin's'
Dutch Monarchy,
while being visited by OUR REIGNING MONARCH.

true lilly Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:22 am

What The HELL is "FOUNDATION"?
I really can't be bothered re-explaining what all this means,
but I'm sure readers who have followed the exchanges between me
and my attackers, like 'tintin' and 'David Icke's' 'australian' members,
will notice "FOUNDATION" has more in common with 'tintin/them'
than 'their' tired old tactic of DENYING ACCESS,
to INDEPENDENT THINKERS/RESEARCHERS who have NOT BEEN
BOUGHT OFF, TO PEDDLE MORE TRAITOROUS PROPAGANDA.

Outgoing SA Premier Mike Rann says others can judge
by:By Tim Dornin
From:AAP
October 20, 2011 2:21PM

OUTGOING South Australian Premier Mike Rann says it's up to others to judge him.

But the man often dubbed "media Mike" is not shy about listing his government's achievements since coming to office in 2002.

By any measure it's a reasonably impressive list.

In recent weeks the premier has signed-off on the banning of mining in the
environmentally-sensitive Arkaroola Sanctuary in the Flinders Ranges
and also the deal to have BHP Billiton spend $30 billion expanding the
Olympic Dam copper and uranium mine.

Over the past decade it has
also increased spending on health and education, opening new schools and
employing more doctors and nurses.

It has also built a desalination plant, started construction on a new central hospital and
approved the major redevelopment of Adelaide Oval.

Related Coverage

Rann bids farewell as Premier Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago

SA poised for greatness, says Rann
Foundation, 1 hour ago
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Editorial: Farewell, Premier Rann Adelaide Now, 48 minutes ago

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation, 2 days ago
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Mike Rann: The man who 'saved' Arkaroola Adelaide Now, 4 days ago

In defence, SA secured the contracts to build the Navy's next fleet of submarines and also the air warfare destroyers.

The Government has also championed renewable energy, with SA now generating
more than half the nation's wind power and becoming a leader in solar
power.

But there's been issues too.

Mr Rann has been forced to deny an affair with a former parliamentary waitress and
watched on as his deputy and long-serving treasurer Kevin Foley was twice assaulted.

A Labor MP was also charged with child pornography offences and was suspended
from the ALP while there have also been a simmering row with the union movement over cuts to public sector jobs and conditions.

That
row has characterised the sometimes wider criticism levelled at Mr Rann
and his government, that they don't always listen to the people or
properly consult before
finalising projects or policies.

In a balancing act, the wins probably outweigh the losses, but as Mr Rann suggests,
the final say will be up to others.

"Overall I think that one day people will probably say all of these things were
about a state that's more confident about itself, more outward looking,"
he says.

"That we're a destination again rather than a beloved home town that people
had to leave to find opportunities elsewhere."

More personally, Mr Rann says being the SA Premier has been the
"greatest privilege of my life".

"I wanted to leave the state in better shape than I found it, and I wanted
to leave the party in better shape than when I took over," he says.

"I think on both of those there's big tick."

Mr Rann is expected to officially stand down as premier tomorrow.

about foundation

Fact sheet

Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050
Home
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
Foundation media agency

Foundation is a media activation company.

We believe in the power of an idea and bringing it to
life. Foundation's activation model delivers complete campaigns,
however our point of difference is that we are media led. This model
allows us to take ownership of the entire campaign delivery and
introduce specialist services as needed.

Our mantra is creating opportunity.

This forms the Foundation of our thinking.
About us

- Resources
- Agency Culture
- Meet the team
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
ABOUT FOUNDATION

Resources

Foundation is unique in that we operate as an independent business
but backed by the Clemenger Group, Australia’s largest communications
group.

Our ownership guarantees security and access to market leading resources normally reserved for large multinational agencies.

We can deliver an end-to-end campaign, strategy to channel planning to creation to implementation and through to measurement.

about foundation

Agency Culture

Everyone at Foundation has the opportunity to be a shareholder and to
have some ‘skin in the game’, which has its unique benefits.

It allows Foundation to be a true entrepreneurial business where
staff members are each empowered to create opportunities for our
clients, the business and themselves through proactive ideas and
innovative ways of operating.

Meet the team
About us
- Resources
- Agency Culture
- Meet the team
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
about foundation

Meet the team

(Oh DO, click and SEE WHO 'THEY' Are!)
2011 © Foundation. All rights reserved

clients

Services
We approach every client challenge with a tool box of
resources as every brief is different. The agency uses a process called
‘Evolution’ to navigate, develop and pressure test every communications
plan.

ROI is fundamental in delivery of effective campaigns. Our
strategies are guided by business and consumer insights. Foundation has
invested heavily in consumer research and macro-analytics, which
influence and support our communications planning. We believe better
insight delivers better results.

Having media and creative working together means both disciples feed
of each other and are working on a common strategy. Activating the
opportunity is about bringing the idea to life across multiple channels
cohesively.

Our media planners and buyers are connected through the entire
process and help guide the outcome. They work closely with media owners
and focus on maximising value, whilst reducing the opportunity cost.

Then we learn and refine.

services

Planning & buying

Some like to separate the planning and buying functions by calling it
communications planning or channel planning and traders or investors.
We simply call it implementation planning.

The two functions are intrinsically linked, we believe in one
cohesive approach with media owners to access every available asset for
the best possible price.

The key reason being that channel mix, media weight and opportunities
to create memorable campaigns are relevant to cost and the key to a
‘win’ negotiation is not to be divided.

Implementation planning represents 80% of delivering a campaign to
market, we place a high importance on it and it’s why we back ourselves
with performance related remuneration structures.
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet

true lilly Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:10 am

Foundation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For the WikiMedia Foundation, see :Foundation:Home.

Foundation may refer to:...

...but NOT TO...

about foundation

Fact sheet

Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050
Home
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
Foundation media agency

Foundation is a media activation company.

...but ONLY "imagine" as,

and "FOUNDATION", are WELL PAID
to ENSLAVE OTHERS to PREVENT THAT!

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation, 2 days ago
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on this server.Reference #18.a45c637a.1319092707.4b1e6f82

Now, lets look at those
"FOUNDATION" Associations:

Clemenger Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Clemenger Group Limited^[1]

is the holding company of a group of companies
involved in advertising
and marketing communications services
throughout Australia and New Zealand.

It is the largest communications group in Australia and New Zealand.
Clemenger Group Limited has about 1500 employees and
is headquartered in
Melbourne, Australia^[2].
53.33% of the shares are held by
Clemenger Communications staff
and 46.67% by BBDO Worldwide.
BBDO Worldwide is in turn
part of the Omnicom Group,
which the largest
communications group in the world.

(gee, I wonder where their 'staff'
have their Big Bickies INVESTED.
Maybe Old New AMSTERDAM/New York, New York)
David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Omnicom_Group_Logo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnicom_GroupHeadquarters
New York, New York, USA
Time Line:
2006 buys 50% shareholding in
180 Amsterdam and 180 LA

Oh here, Rolling Eyes

KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT affraid

1 History
- 1.1 Timeline
- 1.2 Quick facts
</li>
2 Companies
- 2.1 Advertising and media
- 2.2 Business to business
- 2.3 Media planning and buying
- 2.4 Channel and field marketing
- 2.5 Public relations
- 2.6 Customer relationship management
- 2.7 Outsourcing services
- 2.8 Full-service marketing agencies
- 2.9 Specialty
- 2.10 Marketing technology
- 2.11 Market research
</li>
3 Competitors
4 Governance
5 Lobbying for the Russian government
6 References
7 External links

...and you still wonder why, with the Global CONspiracy Industry,
peddling the Global "Truther" Movement, into every big & little life,
all over the world, for decades, that things keep getting worse and
worse, and BANNING INDEPENDENT VOICES HAS BECOME THE NORM Rolling Eyes

true lilly wrote:What The HELL is "FOUNDATION"?
I really can't be bothered re-explaining what all this means,
but I'm sure readers who have followed the exchanges between me
and my attackers, like 'tintin' and 'David Icke's' 'australian' members,
will notice "FOUNDATION" has more in common with 'tintin/them'
than 'their' tired old tactic of DENYING ACCESS,
to INDEPENDENT THINKERS/RESEARCHERS who have NOT BEEN
BOUGHT OFF, TO PEDDLE MORE TRAITOROUS PROPAGANDA.

Outgoing SA Premier Mike Rann says others can judge
by:By Tim Dornin
From:AAP
October 20, 2011 2:21PM

OUTGOING South Australian Premier Mike Rann says it's up to others to judge him.

But the man often dubbed "media Mike" is not shy about listing his government's achievements since coming to office in 2002.

By any measure it's a reasonably impressive list.

In recent weeks the premier has signed-off on the banning of mining in the
environmentally-sensitive Arkaroola Sanctuary in the Flinders Ranges
and also the deal to have BHP Billiton spend $30 billion expanding the
Olympic Dam copper and uranium mine.

Over the past decade it has also increased spending on health and education,
opening new schools and employing more doctors and nurses.

It has also built a desalination plant, started construction on a new central hospital and
approved the major redevelopment of Adelaide Oval.

Related Coverage

Rann bids farewell as Premier Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago

SA poised for greatness, says Rann
Foundation, 1 hour ago
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on this server.Reference #18.a45c637a.1319092662.4b1e27dc

Editorial: Farewell, Premier Rann Adelaide Now, 48 minutes ago

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation, 2 days ago
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on this server.Reference #18.a45c637a.1319092707.4b1e6f82

Mike Rann: The man who 'saved' Arkaroola Adelaide Now, 4 days ago

In defence, SA secured the contracts to build the Navy's next fleet of submarines
and also the air warfare destroyers.

The Government has also championed renewable energy, with SA now generating
more than half the nation's wind power and becoming a leader in solar power.

But there's been issues too.

Mr Rann has been forced to deny an affair with a former parliamentary waitress and
watched on as his deputy and long-serving treasurer Kevin Foley was twice assaulted.

A Labor MP was also
charged with child pornography offences
and was suspended from the ALP while there have also been
a simmering row with the union movement
over cuts to public sector jobs and conditions.

That row has characterised the sometimes wider criticism levelled at Mr Rann
and his government, that they don't always listen to the people or properly consult
before finalising projects or policies.

In a balancing act, the wins probably outweigh the losses, but as Mr Rann suggests,
the final say will be up to others.

"Overall I think that one day people will probably say all of these things were
about a state that's more confident about itself, more outward looking,"
he says.

"That we're a destination again rather than a beloved home town that people
had to leave to find opportunities elsewhere."

More personally, Mr Rann says being the SA Premier has been the
"greatest privilege of my life".

"I wanted to leave the state in better shape than I found it, and I wanted
to leave the party in better shape than when I took over," he says.

"I think on both of those there's big tick."

Mr Rann is expected to officially stand down as premier tomorrow.

about foundation

Fact sheet

Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050
Home
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
Foundation media agency

Foundation is a media activation company.

We believe in the power of an idea and bringing it to
life. Foundation's activation model delivers complete campaigns,
however our point of difference is that we are media led. This model
allows us to take ownership of the entire campaign delivery and
introduce specialist services as needed.

Our mantra is creating opportunity.

This forms the Foundation of our thinking.
About us

- Resources
- Agency Culture
- Meet the team
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
ABOUT FOUNDATION

Resources

Foundation is unique in that we operate as an independent business
but backed by the Clemenger Group, Australia’s largest communications
group.

Our ownership guarantees security and access to market leading resources normally reserved for large multinational agencies.

We can deliver an end-to-end campaign, strategy to channel planning to creation to implementation and through to measurement.

about foundation

Agency Culture

Everyone at Foundation has the opportunity to be a shareholder and to
have some ‘skin in the game’, which has its unique benefits.

It allows Foundation to be a true entrepreneurial business where
staff members are each empowered to create opportunities for our
clients, the business and themselves through proactive ideas and
innovative ways of operating.

Meet the team
About us
- Resources
- Agency Culture
- Meet the team
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
about foundation

Meet the team

(Oh DO, click and SEE WHO 'THEY' Are!)
2011 Foundation. All rights reserved

clients

Services
We approach every client challenge with a tool box of
resources as every brief is different. The agency uses a process called
‘Evolution’ to navigate, develop and pressure test every communications
plan.

ROI is fundamental in delivery of effective campaigns. Our
strategies are guided by business and consumer insights. Foundation has
invested heavily in consumer research and macro-analytics, which
influence and support our communications planning. We believe better
insight delivers better results.

Having media and creative working together means both disciples feed
of each other and are working on a common strategy. Activating the
opportunity is about bringing the idea to life across multiple channels
cohesively.

Our media planners and buyers are connected through the entire
process and help guide the outcome. They work closely with media owners
and focus on maximising value, whilst reducing the opportunity cost.

Then we learn and refine.

services

Planning & buying

Some like to separate the planning and buying functions by calling it
communications planning or channel planning and traders or investors.
We simply call it implementation planning.

The two functions are intrinsically linked, we believe in one
cohesive approach with media owners to access every available asset for
the best possible price.

The key reason being that channel mix, media weight and opportunities
to create memorable campaigns are relevant to cost and the key to a
‘win’ negotiation is not to be divided.

Implementation planning represents 80% of delivering a campaign to
market, we place a high importance on it and it’s why we back ourselves
with performance related remuneration structures.
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet

mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:10 am

true lilly wrote:
le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'................... ..............................

er........suzi........................only the rankest moron(you) would have projected that reply to my Post.........well done....again. thumbs up

FYI...they are talking about Jerusalem, in Israel.....................what don't you understand about that?

Was YHWHS previous two Temples in Australia?

NO.

Israel is the Eternal Promised Land................NOT Australia......... thumbs up

Neither will be the Third, and when the New Jerusalem decends it will over the old Jerusalem in.................Israel, not Australia..............it is futile for you to twist and pervert the Scriptures of YHWH, the Prophets you quote, out of context, are YHWHs Prophets, they speak of Israel..........NOT Australia..................suzi/lily.....you remain p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c......Analysis of Daniel 11:2-35

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves." The vision in Daniel 11:2-35 is set in the third year of the Persian King Cyrus the Great (ca. 536 B.C.). The Greek conqueror Alexander the Great is briefly mentioned in Daniel 11:2 as a "warrior king," and the fourfold division of his empire is referred to in Daniel 11:3. Daniel 11:5-20 describes the wars between the Ptolemiac and Seleucid Empires. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to Antiochus Epiphanes, his rise to power, attacks on Egypt, and subsequent persecution of the Jews. The reader should particularly note the increased attention given to detail as the vision focuses on the second century B.C. and the tyranny of Antiochus. . thumbs up

http://www.bibleplus.org/prophecy/kings.html

Suzi, you remain a Bullshit Artist........... thumbs up

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves."

Some insightful Bible students noticed, the proof lies in the obvious identity that exists between Daniel's "the king of the north" in the last days and Ezekiel's "Gog" of the latter days. By comparing what is said about each of them in the two prophecies, it is manifest that they can only be different titles for the same being.

Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 = Daniel 11:45

Their geographical position is the same. "Gog's" country is in the north part in relation to the Holy Land; as it is written, "Thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts". "Gog" is therefore "the king of the north", his place or country being there.

Both of them are adversaries of Israel and invaders of the Holy Land. The eleventh chapter of Daniel abundantly proves this in relation to "the king of the north"; and of "Gog", Yahoueh said: "Thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land".
The time they invade the land is the same. "The king of the north" invades in the last days. Of "Gog" it is said: "It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land".
The same peoples are named as components of their armies. The Libyans and Ethiopians are allies with "the king of the north"; and in the enumeration of Gog's forces, it says, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them".
Who is "Gog"? Which land is the land of "Magog"?
Some people think that "Gog" is the Devil. But does the context support this idea? Ezekiel wrote that after "Gog's" last attack he will fall and then be buried by the people. (Ez.39:4,11) So there is no need to prove that "Gog" represents the Devil as we know that the devil does not have a body of flesh and bone and has no need for a grave. Thus, in actuality, whom does "Gog" symbolize?

"Gog" is the chief prince of Meschech and Tubal. Meshech, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2) is the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi people, inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs simply as a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendancy of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs and gave this name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East" (Easton's Bible Dictionary).

Many ancient sources have clearly identified "Magog" as referring to the "Scythians".
One of the earliest references to Magog was made by Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" who identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel.

Josephus Flavius clearly identified Magog. "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians". (Josephus, Antiquities, 1.123; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel 38:2)

The Greek historian Herodotus wrote that in the fifth century B.C. the Scythians ruled from the Don River, in present southern Russia, to the Carpathian Mountains in central Europe.

Philo, is another historian in the first century A.D. who identified "Magog" with southern Russia.

Ancient authorities clearly identified the Scythians as the ancestors of the present day Russians.

However, even without that information, the identity of "Magog" is not too difficult to figure out. In Ezekiel 38:15, it says: "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee". The "north parts" is literally the "extreme, or uttermost" parts of the north.

Who are "the kings of the north" and "south"? Who are the "kings" of this chapter?

Daniel 11:2
Since the Prophecy was given in the third year of Cyrus (Daniel 10:1), the three kings that were to "stand up yet", that is, "after him", were Cambyses II, Smerdis the Magian imposter, Darius I Hystaspes.

The fourth king, Xerxes I, stirred up Persia against Greece, which he invaded in 480 B.C. but failed to conquer. Since prophecy touches only upon important events and characters, the remaining kings of Persia are omitted, and the prophecy jumps over nearly 150 years to the time of Alexander the Great 336-323 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:3,4
"A valiant king", Alexander the Great, whose kingdom after his death was divided into four parts.
1) Seleucus I - who began the Seleucid (Syrian) empire, from Turkey to India.
2) Cassander - who took over Macedonia (Greece).
3) Lysimachus - who took Thracia (between Greece and Turkey).
4) Ptolemy I - who ruled over Egypt.

Daniel 11:5
After the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C., the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I Soter, the son of Lagus, the king of the south.
"One of his princes", Seleucus I, Nicator ["the king of the north"] also rose to power, and took over the region of Syria. He eventually became more powerful than his former Egyptian ruler.

Daniel 11:6
"The daughter of the king of the south" = Berenice II, daughter of Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus II Theos.
Two years after the marriage, Berenice's father (Ptolemy Philadelphus) died.
Antiochus restored Laodice and put away Berenice.
He was then poisoned by Laodice.
Berenice fled with her children to Daphne where she was killed.

Daniel 11:7-9
A "branch of her roots" will come with an army. This was Berenice's brother, Ptolemy III Euregetes, "the king of the south".
"The king of the north" is Seleucus II Kallinikos, son of Laodice who was defeated in a later invasion of Egypt. He lost most of Asia Minor along with losing to the military expansion of Ptolemy III who put his mother, Laodice, to death.
Verse 9: "And [the king of the north] will enter into the kingdom of the king of the south, but will return to his own land". (literal translation)
Seleucus II, son of the deceased Laodice, sought revenge for the vengeance taken by Ptolemy III. "Justin says that he fitted out a great fleet, which was destroyed by a violent storm; and after this he raised a great army to recover his dominion, but was defeated by Ptolemy, and fled in great terror and trembling to Antioch" (Gill's Commentary).

Daniel 11:10-12
His ["the king of the north"] sons = Seleucus III Ceraunus and Antiochus III the Great.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III, the Great.
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy IV Philopator.
Ptolemy IV defeated the much larger army of Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia in 217.

Daniel 11:13-17
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy V Epiphanes.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III.
Antiochus III gives his daughter Cleopatra I to Ptolemy V, in hopes of permanent influence in Egypt.
Verse 14a: "And in those times many will rise against the king of the south".
At this time, many of the Egyptians began rebelling against the ruling Grecian family and began rioting and defying them.

Verse 14b: "And the sons of the violent ones of your people shall rise up to establish the vision, but they shall stumble". (LIT)
This verse speaks of the violent sons of Daniel's nation. Many commentators suggest that these people will stand up against the king of the south, but this text foretells that these people will lift themselves up to establish the vision. They were called a violent people by Ezekiel who in this way described them as shedders of blood. (18:10a) The word vision [in Aramaic chezev; in Hebrew chazown] is used in the Book of Daniel e.g. in: 7:1,2,7,13,15; 8:1,2,13,15,17,26; 9:24; 10:14; 11:14. All of these visions prophecy of the future persecution of God's nation, that would be fulfilled in the distant future. (Daniel 8:17; 10:14)
What kind of violent people would lift themselves in the ancient time, to fulfill the inspired visions and prophecies before their time? The First Book of the Maccabees clearly indicates the Maccabees as being these violent people. (1:54; 6:7) Until now, many commentators believe that the Maccabees fulfilled the prophecies of the Book of Daniel. But Jesus said that the vision which concerns the abomination of desolation and the persecutions of God's nation will be fulfilled in the future. (Compare Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:1- Cool

Verse 11:16b "and he standeth in the desirable land, and it is wholly in his hand". (YLT)
After one hundred years, Palestine again changed hands. The Seleucid king, Antiochus III, took control of Palestine c. 200 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:18
Antioch III against the Roman Empire.
"Ruler" = Lucius Cornelius, the Roman general.
The Romans humbled him (191) at Thermopylae and again at Magnesia (190).

Daniel 11:19a
Subsequently, Antiochus was forced to campaign within his own lands to stop his satraps from declaring themselves independent rulers.

Daniel 11:19b
"He shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found" = end of the period of greatness for the Seleucid Empire. (Compare Revelation 18:21; Jeremiah 51:64)

Daniel 11:20
"And stood up on his station hath one causing an exactor to pass over the honour of the kingdom, and in a few days he is destroyed, and not in anger, nor in battle". (YLT)

"The king of the north" = Caesar Augustus. The first Roman emperor.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

In 2 B.C., Augustus sent out "an exactor" by ordering a registration, or census, most likely to learn the size of the population for purposes of taxation and military conscription. Because of this decree, Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem for registration, resulting in Jesus' birth at that foretold location. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1-12)

Daniel didn’t prophecy that "the king of the north" would die "after a few days" from this event, but would die in the undetermined future "after a few days". In the end of July, in the year 14 A.D., August left Rome. He took a vacation in his old age and health. On the 19th of August, after a short sickness, he "passed away peacefully, not feeling any pain". While traveling in Campania, Augustus died "in a few days", neither "in anger" at an assassin's hands nor "in warfare", but after a short illness.

Many say that "the king of the north" is Seleucus IV Philopater, who sent out his finance minister, Heliodorus to collect taxes. But Seleucus was murdered in a conspiracy engineered by Heliodorus. It is said that the king here was to however die a natural death (not one of anger or of battle). Therefore, this writing does not conform to Seleucus IV. Also, verse 21 cannot carry over to the rule of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel 11:21-23
Verse 21: "And in his place shall arise a despised. And they will not give him the royal majesty. He will come in a time of peace and will seize the kingdom through duplicity".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius 14-37.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

"The ruler of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua].

Augustus only chose him after more favored heirs had died.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says, Tiberius played politics with the Senate and did not allow it to name him emperor for almost a month [after Augustus died]". He told the Senate that no one but Augustus was capable of carrying the burden of ruling the Roman Empire and asked the senators to restore the republic by entrusting such authority to a group of men rather than to one man. "Not daring to take him at his word", wrote historian Will Durant, "the Senate exchanged bows with him until at last he accepted power". Durant added: "The play was well acted on both sides. Tiberius wanted the principate, or he would have found some way to evade it; the Senate feared and hated him, but shrank from reestablishing a republic based, like the old, upon theoretically sovereign assemblies". Thus, Tiberius took hold of the kingdom by means of duplicity.

Verse 22: "And the arms of the flood shall be swept from before his face, and they will be broken, and also the ruler of a covenant".

In 15 A.D., Germanicus led his forces against the German hero Arminius, with some success. However, the limited victories were won at great cost, and Tiberius thereafter aborted operations in Germany. Instead, by promoting civil war, he tried to prevent German tribes from uniting. Tiberius generally favoured a defensive foreign policy and focused on strengthening the frontiers. This stance was fairly successful. In this way "the arms of the flood" were controlled and were "broken".
"Broken" too was "the Leader of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua]. (Compare Isaiah 55:4; Daniel 9:25, 27a)

Verse 23: "And after they join themselves to him, he will do guile, and he will exalt himself, and will do strong by a few of the people".

The oath of loyalty bound the army and officials to the Tiberius.
"Sextus Pompeius and Sextus Apuleius, the consuls, were the first to swear allegiance to Tiberius Caesar, and in their presence the oath was taken by Seius Strabo and Caius Turranius, respectively the commander of the praetorian cohorts and the superintendent of the corn supplies. Then the Senate, the soldiers and the people did the same".
Those few people were the Roman Praetorian Guard, encamped close to Rome's walls. Its proximity intimidated the Senate and helped Tiberius keep in check any uprisings against his authority among the populace. By means of some 10.000 guards Tiberius remained mighty.

Daniel 11:24
"In a time of peace he will come against [sense: will attack] the fattest [sense: mighty] of the land, and he will do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers: prey, and spoil, and substance, their possession he will distribute. And against strongholds he will devise his schemes until the appointed time".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius and next emperors.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

The word "mashman" refers here to fattest [sense: mighty]. (Compare Ps.78:31 and Is.10:16)
Because he was very suspicious, Emperor Tiberius, extended the law of laesa majestas. Many senators were put to death on a charge of treason against the emperor. For the people of the provinces, it was a peaceful and well-ordered time.

Daniel 11:25,26a
Aurelian (270-275) against Queen Zenobia of Palmyra ["the king of the south"].

The Palmyrene army occupied Egypt in 269 B.C.E. under the pretext of making it secure for Rome. Zenobia wanted to make Palmyra the dominant city in the east and wanted to rule over Rome's eastern provinces. Alarmed by her ambition, Aurelian aroused "his power and his heart" to proceed against Zenobia.
Zenobia valiantly defended it, but without success. She and her son fled toward Persia, only to be captured by the Romans at the Euphrates River. The Palmyrenes surrendered their city in 272 B.C. Aurelian spared Zenobia, making her the prize feature in his triumphal procession through Rome in 274 B.C. She spent the rest of her life as a Roman matron.
Aurelian himself 'did not stand because of schemes against him.' In 275 B.C., he set out on an expedition against the Persians. While he was waiting in Thrace for the opportunity to cross the straits into Asia Minor, those who 'ate his food' carried out schemes against him and brought about his "breakdown". He was going to call his secretary Eros to account for irregularities. Eros, however, forged a list of names of certain officers marked for death. The sight of this list moved the officers to plot Aurelian's assassination and to murder him.

Daniel 11:26b. (Compare Daniel 9:26b)
"and his army will be flooded and many will fall down slain".

Decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

"The strength of Aurelian had crushed on every side the enemies of Rome. After his death they seemed to revive with an increase of fury and of numbers".

Daniel 11:27
"And both these kings, their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie. But it will not succeed, for yet (the) finish to (the) appointed time." (11:27, literal translation)
It certainly suggests that the verse does not concern to the ancient times. It describes the end of times right before the appointed time. (Compare Daniel 11:29a)

Russia and England (from second half of the XIX Century).

Egyptian history dates back to about 4000 B.C., when the kingdoms of upper and lower Egypt, already highly sophisticated, were united. Egypt's golden age coincided with the 18th and 19th dynasties (16th to 13th century B.C.), during which the empire was established. Persia conquered Egypt in 525 B.C.E, Alexander the Great subdued it in 332 B.C.E., and then the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled the land until 30 B.C., when Cleopatra, last of the line, committed suicide and Egypt became a Roman, then Byzantine, province. Arab caliphs ruled Egypt from 641 until 1517, when the Turks took it for their Ottoman Empire. Napoléon's armies occupied the country from 1798 to 1801. In 1805, Mohammed Ali, leader of a band of Albanian soldiers, became pasha of Egypt. After completion of the Suez Canal in 1869, the French and British took increasing interest in Egypt. British troops occupied Egypt in 1882, and British resident agents became its actual administrators, though it remained under nominal Turkish sovereignty. In 1914, this fiction was ended, and Egypt became a protectorate of Britain.
Russia grew expanding its power over huge regions, and by the end of XIX century Russia possessed territories from the mouths of the Danube and Visla in the west, reached the Pacific Ocean in the east, began in the Euroasian tundra in the north and had borders with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China in the south.

In 1907, an Anglo-Russian agreement divided Persia into English and Russian spheres of influence, a large Russian sphere in the north, covering the most valuable part of the country, a neutral sphere in the centre, and a smaller British sphere in the southeast.

Daniel 11:28
"And (he) ["the king of the north"] will go back (to) his land with great wealth; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land." (literal translation)

History of Russia after World War II.

The passage contains enough details, which allow for a correct interpretation.

Daniel foretells here that "the king of the north" [Russia] will not only be successful in WW II, but also that he returns to his land with a great amount of goods. If only Hitler had listened to Mussolini and the Japanese, who in 1943 advised him to stop military actions, the prophetic detail would have never been fulfilled.

Daniel 11:28b
"and turned back to his own land".

The break-up of the Soviet Union and return to the country of Russian garrisons (the liquidation of Russian military bases).

The prophecy of Daniel 11 is the key to understanding what is going to happen in the future.

The latter statements Jesus' and Daniel's are alike.

Matthew 24:5,6 (Luke 21:8,9) = Daniel 11:27,28 = XIX, XX, XXI Century, before the World War III

"Many for will come in the name of me, saying: 'I am the anointed'; and many they will mislead." (Matthew 24:5, literal translation)

"He said, 'Watch out that you don't get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, 'I AM,' and, 'The time is at hand.' Therefore don't follow them." (Luke 21:8, WEB)

"Don't be afraid when you hear of wars and revolutions; such things must happen first, but they do not mean that the end is near." (Luke 21:9, GNB)

Matthew 24:7 = Daniel 11:29,30 = WW III

Matthew 24:15 = Daniel 11:31 = "trampling of Jerusalem" [the great tribulation of Christian minorities; compare Revelation 11]

Matthew 24:29 = Daniel 11:40 = WW IV

Daniel 11:29a
"At (the) appointed time (he) will return, and will enter into (the) south."

1. Russian troops will be station abroad again.
2. "The king of the north" will come into the South.

Daniel 11:29b,30
"But will not be as (the) former or as (the) latter. For will come against him (the) dwellers of coastlands of Kittim, and (he) will be humbled, and will return." (literal translation)

1. The West will come against the Russia.
2. "The king of the north" will be humbled, and will return.
(Compare Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4)

Daniel 11:31
1. The nations will trample "the holy city" [of those who belong to Christ] forty-two months. (Compare Revelation 11:2,7; 13:5,7a; Luke 21:24b; Matthew 24:21,22; Daniel 7:25; 9:27; Isaiah 29:1-8,20-24; Matthew 13:40-43,49,50; Ezekiel 13:8-16,20-23; 34:10; 2Thessalonians 2:8b; Isaiah 28:1-4,17-22; 6:13; Malachi 3:1-5)

The religious organizations from among Christian minorities which Jesus compared to "the weeds", will be "burned". (Mt.13:30) Yahoueh will protect the righteous ones. (Re.11:1) "The wheat" will be put into "the storehouse" after the tribulation – which means that "the sons of the kingdom" will become gathered and unified at that time. They will shine as brightly as the sun after the tribulation.

2. "The abomination of desolation" [the World Government] will be set up. (Revelation 13:7b; Daniel 12:11)

Daniel 11:32-35
Details of their future global religious persecution. (Compare Daniel 8:11,12; Revelation 6:9-11; 12:15)

Daniel 11:36-39
Russia before the World War IV. (Compare Ezekiel 38:7)

Daniel 11:40
The World War IV. (Compare Luke 21:25; Isaiah 5:26-30; Matthew 24:29; Daniel 7:11; Revelation 13:3; Ezekiel 32:2-16; Habakkuk 1:5-17; Revelation 6:12; Zephaniah 1:14-18; Joel 2:1-11,31, ASV)

Daniel 11:41
Occupation of Israel. (Compare Ezekiel 39:23-29)

Daniel 11:42,43
The triumph of Russia. (Compare Isaiah 10:12-15)

Daniel 11:44,45
Russia again will attack Israel. (Compare Daniel 12:1; Joel 2:20; Isaiah 14:4-27; Habakkuk 3:3-16)

"Many will study, therefore understanding will be multiplied". (Daniel 12:4b)

What is the Bible's scenario?
1. Russian troops station abroad again. (Daniel 11:29a)

2. "The king of the north" becomes very aggressive and enters into the south. (Daniel 11:29a)

3. The West opposes Russia. (Daniel 11:30; Matthew 24:7a; Revelation 6:4)

4. "The king of the north" is humiliated, and turns back. (Daniel 11:30). He does not make the same mistake as Hitler did, he does not fight to the death and this is why Russia is not occupied.

5. The World Government appears after that war which replaces the ineffective UN. Its power gradually rises. (Revelation 13:1,2,7b; Daniel 11:31b)

6. Russia rebuilds its military power very fast and acts effectively on the world scene. (Daniel 11:30b)

7. "Russia’s rulers pay attention to those "who forsake the holy covenant". (Daniel 11:30b)

8. A man "of fierce countenance, and understanding ambiguous sayings" becomes the president of the USA, and he begins to fight with Christian minorities. (Daniel 8:23-25)

9. There is a tribulation of "Jerusalem" = it is a tribulation of Christian minorities, which lasts 42 month’s. (Daniel 11:31a; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:5-7a; Matthew 13:40-42,49,50; 24:48-51)

The Christian communities, which are now called sects, are decimated. It is the biggest genocide concerning religion in history. The eyes of people who were deceived by them will be opened. (Isaiah 6:9-13)

The "tyrant", according to LXX “lawless” = the rulers of Christian minorities will be removed. (Isaiah 29:1-8,20,21) Ezekiel calls them "women". (Ezekiel 13:17-23; Revelation 14:4a; Isaiah 3:12) Paul names them "the man of lawlessness". (2 Thessalonians 2:4,8b)

10. Immediately after the tribulation of those days "the abomination of desolation", in other words the World Government will be set up [will given authority; Revelation 13]. (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11) The Book of Revelation calls it a "beast". (11:7; 13:1,2,7, Cool

11. The spirit is poured out upon people who belong to Jesus. (Revelation 11:11-13) The "wheat" = the sons of kingdom, will be gathered into the "storehouse" after burning the "weeds" = organized Christian churches which earlier posed as the churches of Christ. (Matthew 13:30b; Eph.1:9,10) And then Jesus will set up a "faithful slave" over his whole possession. (Matthew 24:45-47)

12. The seven trumpets start to sound. Those who belong to Jesus are revealing future events to the World. They will also try to explain what God thinks of certain issues. (Revelation 8:6-10:11)

13. The power in Russia will be taken over by a dictator who is atheist. The military power will be his god. (Daniel 11:36-39)

14. Not longer after that, there will be the WWIV. That time Russia will triumph the same as it did after the WWII. (Daniel 11:40; Daniel 7:11; Luke 21:25; Revelation 13:3a). "The king of the north" will act as a "God’s hammer" ravaging many countries like Babylon in ancient times. (Jeremiah 51:20,25)

15. Russia occupies Israel as well. (Daniel 11:41)

16. After that war the World Government is resuscitated. The "purple beast" will be given even more power. The politicians will relinquish their sovereignty in favor of the beast. (Revelation 13:14; 17:8,17)

17. Attack on "Babylon the Great" = big, apostatized churches, drunk with blood of innocent people, which betrayed God and Jesus by co-operating with kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:16)

18. Next, nations see the sign of the Son of man (Matthew 24:30). Probably it will be connected with the first resurrection (Revelation 20:6). People who have died in union with Jesus will rise first (among 144.000). They will get a spirit body at the resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:35,44) What will be the proof of the resurrection? Immediately after that, remaining of 144,000 will be transfigured (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). Simultaneously they will be caught away from the earth and taken to heaven. The transfigurations of belonging to Jesus dependably will not be seen and it will cause a great expression on nations.

19. The whole nation of Israel is converting and gathering. (Ezekiel 39:25-29; Romans 11:25-32). After taking to heaven belonging to group of 144,000 nation of Israel will be a light for the nations. God will be with them and will pour his spirit over them. (Ezekiel 39:29)

20. Rebuilding of the Temple according to directions given to Ezekiel. (Ezekiel 37:24-28; 43:11)

21. There will be collection of chosen, separation the "sheep from the goats". (Matthew 24:31; 25:31-44; Revelation 14:15,16).

22. "The king of the north" will attack people who worship the true God [Israel] (Ezekiel 38:10-12). "The beast" [the word government] also will take part in this attack. (Revelation 19:19).

23. After Armageddon the power on the world will be taken over by the "new heaven" = the kingdom of God i.e. Jesus and belonging to him. (Daniel 7:27; Matthew 6:10; Revelation 21:1-4) "The old heaven" = imperfect system of authority created by man will go away. Rules and the law created by imperfect people which are captivating and making difficulty will be untied. All activities remaining uncovered, good or bad will be revealed, all crimes will come to light. (2 Peter 3:10; 1 Timothy 5:25).

24. The rest of dead will come to life! The earth will become the paradise. (Acts 24:15; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; 25:8; 35:5-7). When the thousand year’s period of Jesus’ kingdom will end people who come to life during this period are put to the test. And then they will really come to life God’s point of view and then they will get ability to live forever. (Revelation 20:5a,7,8; comp. Luke 15:32; 1 John 3:14).

"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth will I cause you to hear them". (Isaiah 42:9)

see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. RossThe previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6

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THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.
Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.

mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:37 am

lilly: when you lie, twist and deform Scripture you are hurting yourself.......... thumbs up

.............The biblical commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and restrictions on people limiting their freedom, but as a Divine Communication that can be seen as generous; teaching, instructing(Torah); Humanbeings how life works and what to do and not do to make the best of it. thumbs up

Within the mitzvot/commandments are all the instructions(Torah) neccessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap great benefit from living within alignment with the Laws of the Universe.

Who is wise?

They who can foresee the consequences of their action. thumbs up

In Hebraic/Biblical thought, the whole function of the Torah(instruction) is to turn the soul away from the things of the 'Flesh'; from egoistic to altruistic...........During our life our soul either attaches to the things of the 'flesh'---to the Path of Darkness; or it attaches to the things of the Spirit.............becoming a Child of the Light........ thumbs up

mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:15 am

Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.

* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....

THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO God...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Ethical Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. An Abstract Ethical Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups’ values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Ethical Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.

Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.

Each one of the first four commandments encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated than other contemporary Ancient Near East Cultures.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shall have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop demoted all other elohim/gods & goddesses to nothings.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existent, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subservient to Him.

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs’ Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Arithmetic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other Ancient Near East culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literate Societies tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgement Day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden one day a week and the Farmland to lay fallow every seven years to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamia.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform in usage after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Relativists may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?

Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.

Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the Ancient Near East Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them. cheers

Billy Ruben Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:26 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Hail warning across Victoria

5:08PM
Brigid OConnell

GOLF-ball sized hailstones have pelted Ballarat as central and southwest Victoria prepare for more wild weather.

Hailstones the size of golf balls have been reported in Ballarat.
The Daily Telegraph

Hail warning across VictoriaOctober 22, 2011
5:08PM[/size]
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/hail-warning-across-state/story-e6frf7jo-1226173885738

Look at the thread title...what does it say?...and you spam with Aussie shit,keep it for your threads.
This is Tiswas's thread,fuckoff,until you show this fine sub-continental lady the respect she fucking deserves,now Gyppo thief,pissoffCalling you a Gyppo thief to your face,is far more honest and brave than your mild,subtle racism,that everyone can see.Do not call them my Mob,you're not one of us...Gubba

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Queen hails Duntroon

If you're that patriotic for Oztralia,why did your son study fucking useless philosophy,when he could be making mum proud,stick him in military college at Duntroon,go and fight a foreign war on foreign soil,dumb as you are I'd say,he'd get his head blown off,that's if he does'nt break on recruit course,crying for mummy,like I bloody did.If he cops it,you got all the attention a whore like you longs for,fuck Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome,you might even get a cuddle from Julia Gillard,on camera...Mmmmmm,hugged and kissed by poisonous snakes,you'd prefer...but of course,they're family...snake woman

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:

Told you Kharma exist.
That bullshit signature you got,dogspunk...you said that email was hacked and forged,sent out something that incriminated you? I did'nt think you'd be worried about looking like an idiot,you do that well,without being reminded.

I post as and who I am;
independent, unaffiliated
and happy to discuss the
things 'they' desperately
tell the world, to reject,
without consideration.
true-lilly@hotmail.com

What a load of shite...

a

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Three horses victims of tail thief

Isn't that the queens sister,Princess Anne.

I can see why you like the royals,good (in)breeders,like yourself there Lulzy.

Personally,I would'nt wipe my arse with you or the royals...and by God,like you,they're extremely ugly.

Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:I see she's moved on from dogs to horses.

Cool!...still plenty of material to work with...

hmmm,that was a dud...try this then

Whhhattt!!!...I'm not hitting Porn Tube...

Whoooaaa...he's a goer,god,does'nt go easy sticking it in either...all,50 inches of him

Billy Ruben wrote:
le sabrage wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
true lilly wrote:[size=24]What The [b]HELL is "FOUNDATION"?

It's makeup used by pretty girls, which is why you know fuckall about it.

she does'nt believe in "sex within marriage",it's not kinky,quirky,screwed up enough to ignite her fire...

It apparently has to involve dogs. Not that there's anything right with that...

How did you guess???

WOOF<WOOF...they got long tongues and with the correct sauce...

Thankyou,thankyou very much.

Got a thousand of them.

Mr LeSabrage,you're not into visualising are you,well don't when you read my post about True Lilly...scared myself quite a few times with that one...it takes a few bongs to steady my shot nerves to make post on Sodlike these days...it was Lilly,not the cops that broke me...

true lilly Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:51 am

Meanwhile, Murdoch 'TELLS' us more in 3 images
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than all the twittering hoards of Viral Marketers...

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Hannibal Lecter-style mask during a move to an immigration centre. The 14-year-old
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Meat Loaf has slammed the AFL as "jerks" and labelled critics of his performance at
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...you know, 'those hoards' that filled CONsoiracy Sites
with Viral Marketing of 'their' New World DOGmas, while,
attacking real survivors, of the ilk ('they' of CONspiracy land
DEFEND, from the testimonies of real survivors, with yet more
abuse, threats and gang attacks), in the following, Murdoch,
Special Report...."Following eight months of requests
by the Herald Sun, the State Government agreed to release details
of some of thousands of cases of abuse confronted by child protection workers,
which have caused a crisis in the system."

Our child abuse shame
David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 542493-child-abuse

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 542493-child-abuse

Grant McArthur
SPECIAL REPORT: ALMOST 1000 Victorian children were found to have been seriously neglected by their parents in just one year.
Case study: Victoria's disgrace: 8400 children at risk
Listening: Calls from the concerned so tough to take

...and just imagine if all those "Anonymous" Hackers/NET Heads,
had have helped, instead of attacking the survivors who got on line,
simply to warn of how 'they' work at PROTECTING Each Other and
"promoting and producing more 'products' and future clients", for
'their' lucrative International Trade in Very Young HUMAN BEINGS.

true lilly wrote:Told ya, 'They' ARE THE PROFESSIONAL SPAMMERS...
...and I'm the very independent little no body,
with only my faith in The Creator God, Who
answers faithful prayer, in His perfect ways and times.
And 'they' want me dead, for caring to freely share,
real world, real life examples of GOD'S PROMISES KEPT,
so other's to, may answer His Call to Perfectly Just,
Perfectly Beautiful, Life, Eternally Creating New Life,
as fully adopted members of Our Holy Father's Family.

Oh, and note WIKI's Logo:
The North is Broken and Void,
while 'they' 'remain silent' about
The South
MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
beetzart77 wrote:What
does all this mean? What are you striving to prove? I used to like
this forum but you have completely ruined it with total spam, with a
religious twang to it. Is there unlimited interenet use at the asylum
and shouldn't you be playing monopoly or something?

Foundation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For the WikiMedia Foundation, see :Foundation:Home.

Foundation may refer to:...

...but NOT TO...

about foundation
Fact sheet
Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services
Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050
Home
About us
Clients
Services
Fact sheet
Foundation media agency
Foundation is a media activation company.

...but ONLY "imagine" as,

and "FOUNDATION", are WELL PAID
to ENSLAVE OTHERS to PREVENT THAT!

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation, 2 days ago
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Now, lets look at those
"FOUNDATION" Associations:
Clemenger Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Clemenger Group Limited^[1]
is the holding company of a group of companies
involved in advertising
and marketing communications services
throughout Australia and New Zealand.

It is the largest communications group in Australia and New Zealand.
Clemenger Group Limited has about 1500 employees and
is headquartered in Melbourne, Australia^[2].
53.33% of the shares are held by
Clemenger Communications staff
and 46.67% by BBDO Worldwide.
BBDO Worldwide is in turn
part of the Omnicom Group,
which the largest
communications group in the world.
(gee, I wonder where their 'staff'
have their Big Bickies INVESTED.
Maybe Old New AMSTERDAM/New York, New York)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnicom_GroupHeadquarters
New York, New York, USA
Time Line:
2006 buys 50% shareholding in
180 Amsterdam and 180 LA

Oh here, KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT

1 History

1.1 Timeline
1.2 Quick facts
</li>
2 Companies

2.1 Advertising and media
2.2 Business to business
2.3 Media planning and buying
2.4 Channel and field marketing
2.5 Public relations
2.6 Customer relationship management
2.7 Outsourcing services
2.8 Full-service marketing agencies
2.9 Specialty
2.10 Marketing technology
2.11 Market research
</li>
3 Competitors
4 Governance
5 Lobbying for the Russian government
6 References
7 External links
...and you still wonder why, with the Global CONspiracy Industry,
peddling the Global "Truther" Movement, into every big & little life,
all over the world, for decades, that things keep getting worse and
worse, and BANNING INDEPENDENT VOICES HAS BECOME THE NORM
true lilly wrote:What The HELL is "FOUNDATION"?

I really can't be bothered re-explaining what all this means,
but I'm sure readers who have followed the exchanges between me
and my attackers, like 'tintin' and 'David Icke's' 'australian' members,
will notice "FOUNDATION" has more in common with 'tintin/them'
than 'their' tired old tactic of DENYING ACCESS,
to INDEPENDENT THINKERS/RESEARCHERS who have NOT BEEN
BOUGHT OFF, TO PEDDLE MORE TRAITOROUS PROPAGANDA.

Outgoing SA Premier Mike Rann says others can judge
by:By Tim Dornin
From:AAP
October 20, 2011 2:21PM

OUTGOING South Australian Premier Mike Rann says it's up to others to judge him.

But the man often dubbed "media Mike" is not shy about listing his government's achievements since coming to office in 2002.

By any measure it's a reasonably impressive list.

In recent weeks the premier has signed-off on the banning of mining in the
environmentally-sensitive Arkaroola Sanctuary in the Flinders Ranges
and also the deal to have BHP Billiton spend $30 billion expanding the
Olympic Dam copper and uranium mine.

Over the past decade it has also increased spending on health and education,
opening new schools and employing more doctors and nurses.

It has also built a desalination plant, started construction on a new central hospital and
approved the major redevelopment of Adelaide Oval.

Related Coverage

Rann bids farewell as Premier Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago

SA poised for greatness, says Rann
Foundation, 1 hour ago
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Editorial: Farewell, Premier Rann Adelaide Now, 48 minutes ago

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation, 2 days ago
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Mike Rann: The man who 'saved' Arkaroola Adelaide Now, 4 days ago

In defence, SA secured the contracts to build the Navy's next fleet of submarines
and also the air warfare destroyers.

The Government has also championed renewable energy, with SA now generating
more than half the nation's wind power and becoming a leader in solar power.

But there's been issues too.

Mr Rann has been forced to deny an affair with a former parliamentary waitress and
watched on as his deputy and long-serving treasurer Kevin Foley was twice assaulted.

A Labor MP was also charged
with child pornography offences
and was suspended from the ALP while there have also been
a simmering row with the union movement
over cuts to public sector jobs and conditions.

That row has characterised the sometimes wider criticism levelled at Mr Rann
and his government, that they don't always listen to the people or properly consult
before finalising projects or policies.

In a balancing act, the wins probably outweigh the losses, but as Mr Rann suggests,
the final say will be up to others.

"Overall I think that one day people will probably say all of these things were
about a state that's more confident about itself, more outward looking,"
he says.

"That we're a destination again rather than a beloved home town that people
had to leave to find opportunities elsewhere."

More personally, Mr Rann says being the SA Premier has been the
"greatest privilege of my life".

"I wanted to leave the state in better shape than I found it, and I wanted
to leave the party in better shape than when I took over," he says.

"I think on both of those there's big tick."

Mr Rann is expected to officially stand down as premier tomorrow.

about foundation
Fact sheet
Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd
Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services
Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050
Home
About us
Clients
Services
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Foundation media agency
Foundation is a media activation company.

We believe in the power of an idea and bringing it to life.
Foundation's activation model delivers complete campaigns,
however our point of difference is that we are media led.
This model allows us to take ownership of the entire campaign delivery
and introduce specialist services as needed.
Our mantra is creating opportunity.

This forms the Foundation of our thinking.

About us
- Resources
- Agency Culture
- Meet the team
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ABOUT FOUNDATION
Resources
Foundation is unique in that we operate as an independent business
but backed by the
Clemenger Group, Australia’s largest communications group.
Our ownership guarantees security and access to market leading resources normally reserved for large multinational agencies.

We can deliver an end-to-end campaign, strategy to channel planning to creation to implementation and through to measurement.

about foundation
Agency Culture
Everyone at Foundation has the opportunity to be a shareholder and to
have some ‘skin in the game’, which has its unique benefits.

It allows Foundation to be a true entrepreneurial business where
staff members are each empowered to create opportunities for our
clients, the business and themselves through proactive ideas and
innovative ways of operating.
Meet the team
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- Meet the team
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about foundation
Meet the team
(Oh DO, click and SEE WHO 'THEY' Are!)
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clients
Services
We approach every client challenge with a tool box of resources
as every brief is different. The agency uses a process called
‘Evolution’ to navigate, develop and pressure test
every communications plan.

ROI is fundamental in delivery of effective campaigns.
Our strategies are guided by business and consumer insights.
Foundation has invested heavily
in consumer research and macro-analytics,
which influence and support our communications planning.
We believe better insight delivers better results.

Having media and creative working together means both disciples feed
of each other and are working on a common strategy. Activating the
opportunity is about bringing the idea to life across multiple channels
cohesively.

Our media planners and buyers are connected through the entire
process and help guide the outcome. They work closely with media owners
and focus on maximising value, whilst reducing the opportunity cost.

Then we learn and refine.

services
Planning & buying
Some like to separate the planning and buying functions by calling it
communications planning or channel planning and traders or investors.
We simply call it implementation planning.

The two functions are intrinsically linked, we believe in one cohesive approach
with media owners to access every available asset for the best possible price.

The key reason being that channel mix, media weight and opportunities
to create memorable campaigns are relevant to cost and the key to a
‘win’ negotiation is not to be divided.

Implementation planning represents 80% of delivering a campaign to
market, we place a high importance on it and it’s why we back ourselves
with performance related remuneration structures.
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And please, don't get hysterical, imagining some sort of damnation
of anyone working for such, well any, company. It's part of the beautiful,
gracious care God puts into His Timing of revelations, to every individual,
to the degrees and depths that best suit His Ultimate, Perfect, Just Purpose.

Hell, it would be, hell, if we all needed to become expert at industrial and
political spying, before taking on work. What matters To God, is that we
want to serve Him well, by serving our fellow man well. Simply doing,
whatever job we have at hand to do, with the integrity of a faithful servant.

We are no more to bear our masters sins, than our children are to bear ours.

And where some are called to 'great' works of ruler-ship, science, etc., others
are called to equally 'great' works of gardening, labouring etc., and all of us,
will be judged, not by the 'greatness' of what we achieve, nor our 'failures', but,
by the motivations of our hearts, in every 'big' and 'little' thing we do.

Bless God, bless His servants ('great' and 'small'), and be blessed.

Ciggy Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:26 pm

Shut the hell up about whatever irrelevant bollocks yer spamming about now.

sharky Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:47 pm

Numerous times I posted the following Data, you have all studiously avoided any commentary on it. Very telling, very cowardly............I ask you to grow beyond your normal evolutionary level of Ignorant, Superficial, Shallow, Dishonest and prejudiced and make an honest in depth commentary.............

The Torah/Instruction/Bible of the Jews....their beliefs and their plan for humankind, and the historical ramifications of the Plan............
Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning

26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.

* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....

Yahshua's Kabbalah

http://rabdavis.org/yahshuas%20%20kabbalah.htm

Mark 9: 1 “Yes!” he went on, “I tell you that there are some people standing here who will not experience death until they see the Kingdom Of G-d come in a powerful way!” 2 Six days later, Yahshua took Kefa, Ya‘akov and Yochanan and led them up a high mountain privately. As they watched, he began to change form, 3 and his clothes became dazzlingly white, whiter than anyone in the world could possibly bleach them. 4 Then they saw Eliyahu and Moshe speaking with Yahshua. 5 Kefa said to Yahshua, “It’s good that we’re here, Rabbi! Let’s put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moshe and one for Eliyahu.” 6 (He didn’t know what to say, they were so frightened.) 7 Then a cloud enveloped them; and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” 8 Suddenly, when they looked around, they no longer saw anyone with them except Yahshua. (Jewish NT)

Those of you who are attending kabbalah class know that Jewish Mysticism, which is known today as Kabbalah is the private instruction of a rabbi to his Talmidim as opposed to Mishnah, which denoted a rabbis' public ministry that his Talmidim were to pass on.

In the foregoing passage, we have the culmination of the Kabbalah of Yahshua and he warns His disciples not to reveal the vision of the Transfiguration until after He is resurrected.

Sha'ul also wrote of Kabbalah when he spoke of the transmigration of his soul in 2 Cor. 12:2-4.

Kabbalah also informs of a technique allowing one to enter into "Paradise," the eternal Garden of Eden adjacent to the Chariot-Throne that is fraught with danger.

In general Kabbalah is about our cleaving to G-d and approaching His Throne. Elijah, Ezekiel, Yahshua and Sha'ul all seem to have been familiar with kabbalistic techniques.

In the reading of the Transfiguration (Matthew 16:28-17:13; Mark 9:1-13; Luke 9:27-36) we have a glimpse into Yahshua's kabbalah. We see Yahshua taking three of His Disciples - Peter, James, and John climbing above the villages, up the slopes of Mount Hermon or Mount Lebanon as Josephus called it in his Antiquities to an ancient site of worship.

On mount Hermon Yahshua here followed the example of Moshe who took three of his followers Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu up Mount Sinai where they ate and drank to celebrate the vision of the G-d of Israel on His sapphire throne (Ex. 24:1-11). But unlike what happened on Moshe's mountain, Yahshua's disciples, covered by a cloud of glory, heard a voice say, " This is my son, the beloved, in whom I take pleasure: hear Him (Matthew 9: Cool

and when the cloud passed they found Yahshua without Moshe and Elijah (Mark 9: Cool

standing alone as G-d's son. "Divine son" was the same designation Yahshua had heard during His immersion with John the Baptist: now his own disciples saw and heard the truth of Yahshua's own vision. We should note that the Transfiguration does not speak in the later exclusive language of the Christian Trinity that makes Yahshua into the only possible son of G-d. Here we perceive that the same spirit that had animated Elijah and Moshe was present in Yahshua and this spirit could make of whomever it wishes sons of G-d.

In the middle of the vision and hearing the divine voice Kefa (Peter) offers to build three huts (Sukkoth) for Yahshua, Moshe and Eliyahu. In Marks' gospel we see this presented as an inept suggestion born out of fear (Mark 9:5-6).

A better translation of verse 6 would be that "For he (Peter) did not know how he should respond, because they were terrified" inferring that Peter's suggestion was an inane remark because of a loss for words.

Frequently, during the formation of the Gospels and their many redactions the significance of Judaic symbolism was forgotten and blame fell on the alleged ignorance of the apostles, rather than the amnesia and ignorance of the Church. In this case the Sukkot Kefa refers to reflect both the great feast that was coming and the realization that great prophets like Moshe, Eliyahu, and Yahshua brought the Spirit of G-d to abide in Israel. Sukkot or booths symbolizes the providence of G-d in His provision for us. Kefa's appreciation of the experience he had witnessed and his desire to build shelters is an indication that he, James and John had indeed joined Yahshua in the vision of the Chariot first reported in the translation of Eliyahu as witnessed by Elisha in, 2 Kings 2:11 and later Ezekiel's Chariot-Throne in his book.

The Mishnah in Chagigah 2:1 teaches that the Chariot called Merkavah in Hebrew should not be introduced to one person alone because the vision of the divine Throne was laden with danger. Some initiates died, some went mad, and still others fell prey to polytheism, by meditating on the Throne imprudently, and it was His genius as a rabbi that Yahshua led his disciples into a vision of the Chariot in a way that mobilized and safely transformed them.

The Transfiguration represents the mature development of Rabbi Yahshua's kabbalah as a man, tempted, in all the ways of humanity, for He was not only able to translate his own vision, but to initiate others into its richness. They now saw Him as a living presence in the pantheon of Israel's patriarchs and prophets around G-d's throne. Their rabbi, favored by the thundering voice of G-d (John 12:28, 29), stood at the vortex of creation's source. Yahshua had given to them and gives to us, no matter the cost in hardships, deprivation and struggles the reward of intimacy with the divine presence.

Yahshua's esoteric teaching as evidenced by the Scriptures had grown in advance of His public teaching, and that is a reversal of the pattern we would expect from the Mishnah and the Talmud. Kabbalah had an early prominent place in His teaching. Through the Transfiguration we see that G-d has exalted His son and this revealing of Yahshua's entrance into the heavenly court forever more became a defining force in our consciousness of G-d in our culture.

The vision on Mount Hermon had shown that Yahshua was G-d's son and this exerted a powerful temptation onto His disciples. They would counsel: Who would deny such a man the power to rule as the King of Israel? Yahshua to was susceptible to the same temptation. Yet, Yahshua who is the faithful son of G-d and being pressed by HaSatan day and night to being disloyal to G-d resisted it, and "The Lord's Prayer" was completed in the dark night of what has become known as the Temptation:

My Father,

Your name will be sanctified, your Kingdom will come: Give me today the bread that is coming, and release me my debts-not bring me to the test!

The disciples as were the people of Israel confused G-d's Kingdom with their own national power, especially as Yahshua initiated then into the variations of His Kabbalah after the vision on Mt. Hermon.

Yahshua had healed the sick, raised the dead, stilled storms, walked on water and ultimately had appeared on Mt. Hermon with Eliyahu and Moshe. Why should He not break the rule of Rome?

His disciples even argued among themselves as to who should be the greatest next to Yahshua in the coming Kingdom on earth. Yahshua had to define His movement for by force they might make Him King.

In the Targum of Zechariah, chapter 14 communicates Yahshua's mission and focus to Him. It provided the formula and ritual program, and the key that would unlock the magic door through which the transformation of the Kingdom of G-d would flow. The Targum predicts that G-d's Kingdom will be manifested over the entire earth when the offerings of Sukkoth are presented both by Israelites and Gentiles at the Temple. It further predicts that these worshippers will prepare and offer their sacrifices themselves, in the Galilean manner without the intervention of middlemen. Significantly, the last words of the book promise that, "there shall never again be a trader in the sanctuary of the Lord of Hosts at that time" (Zachariah 14:21). Yahshua's desire to realize the Targum prophecy brought on the dramatic confrontation that he would shortly provoke in the Temple. Zechariah's vision of the ultimate Sukkoth restored the land to Israel and the Temple to the sacrifice G-d desired, The Romans would be banished, and Zion's gate opened to all who would join with Israel there in worship (Targum Zechariah 14:9). Most Christians do not know that during the millennium there will be a return to animal sacrifice in the Temple. Zechariah 14 vv.16-21, 'And it shall come to pass that everyone that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the king, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the feast of the tabernacles... Yea every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of Hosts; and all that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein; and in that day shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of Hosts'. And again perhaps the clearest and most detailed references to the same are in the closing chapters of Ezekiel. The seven chapters Ezekiel 40-46 - give us a description of the millennial temple with its dimensions and its practices, including the sacrifices and offerings, which will take place.

All Yahshua's actions were informed by Judaism and the tenets of its faith, and that is lost or even considered anathema to most professed believers, because they have been taught, erroneously, that His advent signaled a new path to redemption, a path that leads to Hellenistic Christianity, and it's opposition to Judaism. Yet, any unbiased, informed believer can realize through Yahshua's kabbalah and His mission that He was not only our paschal lamb to provide reconciliation unto HaShem, but he was also to usher in the Future Kingdom of G-d, established within the framework and parameters of a Messianic Judaism that upholds the practice of Torah. And not through another religion that has lost its Jewish roots, namely Christianity.

Amein

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el kabong wrote:Here's an example right here in this Thread. What was it? invisible..............answer my Counter-argument you wench...................

el kabong wrote:
el kabong wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7guzT6ANI&feature=fvst

git yer groove on!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3af4ZJS4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMniyUyqN_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM

true lilly wrote:
and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader.

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.

Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet.

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.

el kabong wrote:fuk suzis aka tru lillys complaints about Kity Kat Posts.

Suzi, aka tru lilly, listen to this hooman

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see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. RossThe previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6

..............

THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.
Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.

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DON'T BUY the FALSE "consensus"
SOLD BY CONspiracy SITES!

"They" ARE "THEY"!
"They" ARE THE EVIL "THEY"!
And, "THEY" WILL FALL
And, DIE FOREVER!

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cori
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060258879&postcount=31404

It isn't.

It is however, a threat to 'make future news' of murder,
to later be boasted of, 'as' 'predicted'.

And that's what 'cori' does: Plots deaths to revel in.

What 'cori' doesn't do, however, is admit to all 'their' failed plots.

So, good readers, on a mortal human level, take heed, and,
take heart, in knowing; the world is full of little people who
can and do take joy, in testifying to the Saving Grace of God.

true lilly wrote:
dixie dean wrote:
#31874
31 which is the Country Code for Neverlands
and then you have the number 13.
Never Lands...
This article is about the country within the
Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Netherlands
Nederland
dixie dean wrote:
#31874
I would also link Christian to Poison. Also Tin-Tin Kyrano is linked to
Puppets, so, someone else is pulling her strings.And notice that Tintin
is a man and Tintin Kyrano is a woman, so is Cori passing herself off
as a Woman when she is a man or are they one of the same?I don't know
who is pulling my strings the same as anyone else, you can only have
faith that you have some good on the other end.

Maybe God needs to get rid of those bad puppeteers, pup's as in Dog's,
or will those puppeteers and who ever they are connected to see the
Light of Day.
Diggers treading a trigger wire
by:Brendan Nicholson
From:The Australian
August 26, 2010
12:00AM
5 comments

Australian and Afghan National Army soldiers frequently go on patrols together.
Picture: Gary Ramage
Source: The Australian

AUSTRALIAN Diggers in Afghanistan are appalled and angered when they
hear their main role in Afghanistan dismissed as just "training the
Afghan army".

The dangers faced daily by the instructors out mentoring the Afghan
National Army were brutally highlighted yesterday when it emerged that
28-year-old Jared MacKinney had been killed in an intense three-hour
battle with Taliban insurgents during a joint patrol with Afghan troops
in the Deh Rawud green zone, west of the Australian base at Tarin Kowt.

He was the fourth Australian killed in Afghanistan in less than a
fortnight. But, more significantly, he was the eighth member of an
Australian training and mentoring team killed in action since they
Australian Defence Force began helping to train the Afghan army.

For those troops the war has become even more dangerous in recent months
as the Dutch troops who had the primary coalition role in Oruzgan pulled
out in August, to be replaced by a largely American force.

The Dutch withdrawal coincided with the Americans' make-or-break
surge against the Taliban, with a big troop build-up designed to clear
the insurgents out of the huge areas they control.

Raspal Khosa, an Afghan specialist from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute,
says the increased fighting is a consequence of US President Barack
Obama's revised "force uplift" strategy being put into effect by General David Petraeus.

Strong coalition contingents were sent into Kandahar and Helmand provinces in
particular, and Australians have takenpart in some fighting there.

The US strategy calls for the capture of what the generals call "key
terrain districts" and some of those lie in Oruzgan province,
Australia's main operational area.
These areas, 121 of them, have been picked because control there gives a marked advantage to whichever side has them.

They contain a population as well as economic and transport corridors. One
of these is Deh Rawud where this week's bitter fighting took place.

"The Taliban is obviously counterattacking to challenge this strategy,"
Khosa says. The insurgents have changed tactics and dramatically
increased the numbers of improvised bombs, which are responsible for the
largest number of military and civilian casualties in Afghanistan.

The Taliban aim is to influence what Khosa calls "the external centre of
gravity": public opinion in the West and the coalition's political will
to continue the fight.
The continuing deaths and the apparent lack of progress do have an effect.
Newspoll has marked dwindling public support for the war in Afghanistan after
many years of conflict and mounting casualties.

The proportion of Australians supporting the commitment of troops has
dropped since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks, when two-thirds supported sending troops; in March last year,
nearly two-thirds were opposed.

The war has not been an election issue because it has the support of the main parties,
and Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott both favour Australia's continued involvement in the
war effort.

The Coalition was fairly gung-ho on the war for a time and pushed for Australia
to take over the lead role in Oruzgan when the Dutch pulled out. But since
the latest wave of casualties began -- and following briefings from ADF chief
Angus Houston -- Abbott has softened the rhetoric and adopted the view that
the size of the commitment is "about right".

The Dutch withdrawal has left a specific vacuum not easily filled by the Americans,
with their more aggressive operational style.
Debate about the Dutch departure concentrated largely on who would replace
the logistics they brought to Oruzgan: the command structure, medical facilities,
helicopters and fast jets that provide air support, and the long-range artillery that
can hit Taliban targets in the mountains around the joint coalition base at Tarin Kowt.
But the issue is more complex.

The Dutch proved adept at building relationships with the tribal people
scattered through Oruzgan's mountain valleys and Australia's troops have
benefited from that rapport.

For a long time Australians working with forces from The Netherlands
were inclined to complain about their lack of aggression and to suggest
that "Dutch" stood for "Don't Understand The Concept Here"
when it came to counter-insurgency warfare, or even that
Dutch troops were more inclined to hand out flowers than bullets.

But the Dutch have, as far as it can be done,
built up a deep relationship with the locals
that has helped them navigate the
treacherous complexities of tribal rivalries.

After years of stalemate and a growing alarm that the NATO-led forces could lose
in Afghanistan, the thinking of top American commanders has swung to a position
much more closely aligned with that of the Dutch and a general realisation that
they can't kill their way to victory.

Australia has two main roles in Afghanistan. Its special forces contingent is one
of the most active in Afghanistan, hitting insurgent targets far from the coalition base
at Tarin Kowt and spending weeks at a time far "outside the wire".

Their operations are cloaked in secrecy and generally only become public
when something goes horribly wrong.

That happened in June, when three of Australia's most experienced special forces
soldiers were killed and seven wounded in a helicopter crash high in the mountains
where they headed out in pitch darkness on a raid against the Taliban.

The losses were the worst suffered by the Australian Army on operations since Vietnam,
and came just a fortnight after two Australian Army engineers, sappers Darren Smith
and Jacob Moerland, were killed by a roadside bomb.

To illustrate the intensity of the secret special forces operations, those soldiers were
veterans on their third tour of duty in Afghanistan and were involved a week before in
a successful attack on a Taliban stronghold that senior officers said tore the heart out of
a major insurgent group. The Australians were among 15 coalition troops aboard
the NATO helicopter.

The pilot, an American, was also killed and another crew member badly hurt when
the aircraft crashed at 3.39am Afghanistan time. Houston,
himself a decorated helicopter pilot, says flying conditions at the
time were extremely difficult, with a combination of very rugged
terrain, high altitude, high temperatures and heavily laden aircraft.

In Afghanistan, the Australian mentors operate often from rudimentary
stone forts called forward operating bases and patrol bases built in valleys that lie
in what was the Taliban heartland in Oruzgan.

Small groups of heavily armed Australians live, train and fight with the
Afghan troops they mentor, undertaking frequent joint patrols to keep
any insurgents in the area on the move, to uncover weapons caches and to
try to reassure the locals that they can confidently turn away the Taliban.

Coalition commanders say
the Afghan troops are brave and loyal but lack the discipline of
Western armies. They are not big on planning and are inclined to rush
forward to join in any contact and to blaze away over one another's
heads.

Operations in areas such as Deh Rawud and the Baluchi
Valley, green ribbons of fertile ground winding through the jagged brown
mountains of southern Afghanistan, are
dangerous and the Australian troops are exposed.

These valleys have long been used as infiltration routes by Taliban insurgents moving
from the highlands down to Tarin Kowt, and the troops are there to block them.

In winter the area is bitterly cold and the mountains white with snow. In
the summer -- fighting season -- it is rocky, dusty and hot.

Special forces, Special Air Service troops and commandos carry out lengthy patrols
farther afield, hunting down insurgent leaders and bomb-making factories.

The Diggers also act on intelligence gathered from local villagers, special forces patrols
and manned and unmanned aircraft to track down insurgents moving through the valley
who might place the lethal bombs known as improvised explosive devices or set up ambushes.

Hugh White, a former deputy secretary in the Defence Department who is now a professor
at the Australian National University, has consistently questioned Australia's military
involvement.
White says it's important to note that we don't actually know why Australia is losing more men.
He says one possibility may be simply bad luck, as in the helicopter crash.
"Another possibility is that the Taliban are stepping up their operations," White says.

He makes the point that we know very little about what's happening on the
ground in Afghanistan because the ADF releases very little information.

"The Taliban seem to be pushing the Australians harder," he says. "Maybe
they think that with the Dutch gone, if they push harder we may be more
willing to go, too.
"A third possibility is that the Australians are taking on more risky operations.

"I think there is an element of that, too. We are taking on a more active mentoring role
with the Afghan National Army. Our guys are going out more with the ANA on joint patrols
in contested country, which is inherently risky.
"With the best will in the world, it's not as safe operating out there with the ANA as
it would be with [fellow Australians]."

White suggests the high number of casualties recently are the consequence of a
combination of bad luck and the increased tempo of operations by both sides.

"At least one of those three factors is under our control and it does seem [important]
to ask whether the extra costs in lives [apparently] being imposed on us by this more
active campaigning strategy is justified by the results we're getting.

"If you believe what the government and opposition are saying, that we're in
Afghanistan to secure a stable future for Afghanistan and reduce the
threat of terrorism, then you might reach one conclusion about how
worthwhile these operations are and whether they are worth the cost.

"But I don't believe anyone in government really thinks that. I think it is
universally accepted in government that we're not going to succeed in
Afghanistan. That we're just hanging on until the Americans go.

"And if that's right then hanging on until the Americans go should be done
at the lowest possible risk to Australian lives, in which case there's
an argument that we should stop doing the more risky operations.

"A lot of people would say that was defeatist, but if we're not seriously
expecting to get a result. -- if we're not seriously expecting that . . .
when we start pulling out [in a few years] the situation will have
improved much -- we've got to be very careful about whether it's worth
our while undertaking more risky operations that are costing us lives
and not changing the strategic outcome."

It all boils down to a simple question, White says: "Are we really serious about getting
a result, or are we going through the motions to hold up our end as a good ally?
"I think it's that latter, and if that's the case then we should be doing everything we can
to make sure that we are going through the motions at the cheapest possible price in lives."
White remains deeply sceptical about the whole strategy.

"The idea that you somehow fundamentally change the Afghan political landscape with
a couple of hundred soldiers and a couple of hundred aid workers . . . Societies are much harder to shift than that.

"The more Australians die, the more seriously the people responsible -- and
that is the ministers -- the more they have to interrogate their own
judgment about what we're trying to do and whether it's worth it, and
whether it's going to work.

"If it's not going to work, if three or five years from now we're going
to leave Afghanistan pretty much as it is today -- and I'll bet my boots we will --
then we'll want to ask ourselves why there are 21 dead Australians.

"In this situation people focus on those who have already died.

"And they often say we can't stop now because that would betray the people who've already died," White adds.

"What you've really got to focus on is
the people who haven't yet died but who will.

"There are people who are now walking around in uniform
who will die before we leave, and you've got to ask yourself
on what basis are we allowing that to happen."

Three Australian soldiers shot dead in Afghanistan
by:AAP
From:AAP
October 30, 2011
12:00AM

Watch
Deadly attack on Afghanistan foreign troop convoy.

At least four people are killed as a suicide bomber targets a convoy of foreign troops in Kabul (no reporter narration).

US soldiers gather by bodies of victims of a suicide car bomber in Kabul.
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A ROGUE Afghan soldier has opened fire and killed three Australian
army trainers and wounded six others in the volatile south of
Afghanistan, NATO and a local commander have confirmed.

An Afghan National Army (ANA) officer was also shot and wounded.
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is yet to comment on the incident.
The shooting occurred during morning parade at 8.30am (3pm AEDT) at
Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province, the ABC reported.

The alliance force says two Australian diggers were killed and the third
later died of his injuries after ''an individual wearing an Afghan
National Army uniform apparently turned his weapon on Afghan and
coalition forces''.

It said the shooter was also killed in the incident, but gave no further details.

General Abdul Hameed, commander of 205 Atal corps in the south, said an Afghan
soldier with three years' experience had carried out the shooting.

Related Coverage

Afghan kills 3 Diggers, wounds 7: report Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Three Diggers dead in Afghan shooting spree Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
Five Diggers wounded in Afghanistan Herald Sun, 1 Oct 2011
Afghan soldier tried to shoot killer Herald Sun, 2 Jun 2011
Renegade Afghan soldiers high on opium Perth Now, 1 Jun 2011
''At around 8.30 this morning (3pm AEDT), an ANA soldier named Darwish who
had been serving as an ANA soldier for the past three years opened fire on a group
of Australian military officers, killing three of them and injuring six others as well as
one ANA officer,'' said Hameed.

''The attacker was also gunned down by ISAF soldiers.''
It's not the first time an ANA soldier has killed an Australian soldier.

In May this year, 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Gordon Jones was shot dead
by a rogue ANA soldier at the Patrol Base Marshal in the Chora Valley.

Fears of infiltration within the Afghan army ranks have risen as Western backers fund
and
train a huge expansion of the fledgling national force ahead of the
withdrawal of all foreign combat forces scheduled for 2014.

The announcement came as a suicide car bomber in the capital Kabul struck a US-run
NATO bus travelling through the southwest of the city, killing at least 17 people, including 13 US soldiers.

The death of the three diggers overnight is the
single worst incident involving Australians since June last year when
three members of the Sydney-based 2nd Commando Regiment
died in a helicopter crash in Kandahar province.

A total of 32 Australian soldiers have now been killed
in a decade of involvement in Afghanistan.

DUTCH:
Don't Understand The Concept Here
De toekomst van het Internet (1996)
Brilliant visualisation empires decline
DUTCH: Don’t Understand The Concept Here

“Dutch is an acronym for:
Don’t Understand The Concept Here.
That’s the accurate reflection
of the Dutch approach to war.
They are like highscool kids on schoolcamp.” (..)
“The Taliban knows the difference between our uniforms.
And they will go out to find the Dutch,
because they know they will get result.
The Dutch run away or be reluctant to go out.
So they like fighting the Dutch.“

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First incident with an
Qantas Airbus A380 -
4 november 2010
( Dutch - Nederlands )
https://youtu.be/r045GRhMLT0

Qantas grounds all aircraft in drastic step | Radio Netherlands ...
www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/qantas-grounds-all-aircraft-drastic-step
9 hours ago –
Australian flag carrier Qantas has taken the drastic step
of grounding all its domestic and international aircraft
as part of an industrial dispute.

"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine. Picture: AP
Read More

Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin....

News for 68,000

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 RcytCU7xiIEJ

All Qantas flights cancelled Union workers locked out 68000 ...
Sydney Morning Herald - 1 hour ago
Otherwise, about 68000
passengers will be stranded each day. But Mr Joyce said he had been
forced into the drastic action because the unions threatened to ...
1988 related articles

News for 1988

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 AIaUX0VKaUUJ

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 AIaUX0VKaUUJ

Eurotuner
Porsche stolen in 1988 in Vegas found at LA port
Sacramento Bee - 13 hours ago
AP LOS ANGELES -- A Porsche 930 Turbo stolen in 1988
has turned up at the Port of Los Angeles.
The 1976 Porsche was being shipped to the Netherlands when ...
38 related articles
Christie gets 20 years to life in prison for 1988 killing
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle - 146 related articles

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 1988_50_cent_unc

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 1988_50_cent_unc

Australian 50 Cent Coins : 1988 First Fleet Bicentenary 50c
October 4, 2010
1988 First Fleet Bicentenary 50c

In 1988 Australia celebrated 200 years since the arrival of the First
Fleet. Captain Arthur Phillip led the party of 11 ships to the
founding of Sydney and the colonisation of New South Wales. Arriving
between 18-20th January 1788 1,487 men, women, children and convicts
landed to establish the first European colony in Australia.

There were many events around the country planned for the Bicentenary
in 1988 including a 50 cent coin released into circulation by the Royal
Australian Mint. This dodecagonal (12 sided) 31.51mm copper (75%)
nickel (25%) coin weighed in at 15.55 grams with a plain edge. The
reverse depicts an uncharted map of New Holland (Australia), the stars
of the southern cross and a ship of the First Fleet. This coin is often
nicknamed the "Tall Ships" coin when found in change. It was designed
by Michael Tracey. The standard obverse for 1988 was the Raphael Maklouf portrait
of Queen Elizabeth II, the last year this portrait was used.

8,998,800 of these coins were released into circulation in 1988.
They also feature in the Masterpieces in Silver issues of 1988 and 1989
in sterling silver proof, the 1989 issue being a 1989 dated 50c. Mint
and Proof year sets for 1988 also feature this Tall ships coin.

A one dollar was also released for the Bicentenary in 1988.
David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQliP6usBzI4XbIAri2rI9Zb7_vrr2pW_-W_uyU6hWknVKsEkpad6SaFArP0g

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA - Page 6 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQliP6usBzI4XbIAri2rI9Zb7_vrr2pW_-W_uyU6hWknVKsEkpad6SaFArP0g

Australian Dollar Coins - 1988 First Fleet Bicentenary
November 4, 2009
1988 First Fleet Bicentenary One Dollar by Stuart Devlin
1988 brought many celebrations and issues marking 200 years since the
First Fleet landed in Port Jackson, Sydney. These ships brought the
first immigrants to start the new colony of New South Wales. The First
Fleet consisted of 11 ships bringing approximately 1487 people from
Great Britain to establish Australia's first European colony. On the
26th January 1788 Fleet leader Captain Arthur Phillip planted the
British flag on Australian shore and claimed the land for the British
Empire. This day continues to be celebrated as a national holiday
Australia Day.

This one dollar issue that entered circulation reminds us of the
original Aboriginal inhabitants of our nation. The reverse depicts
aboriginal artwork- a stylised kangaroo on a backdrop of a seven pointed
(federation) star modeled by designer Stuart Devlin.
When we receive one of these in our change, we are reminded of the
native Koori people that were displaced by European settlement. This
standard 25mm, 9 gram, aluminium bronze dollar features the obverse
effigy of Queen Elizabeth II by Raphael Maklouf . 20,400,000 of these
coins entered circulation. 3,500 coins were also struck in aluminium
bronze proof. This dollar was also restruck later for inclusion in the 5
coin uncirculated set 1988-1992. A sterling silver proof version was
also included in the masterpieces in silver set issued in 1990.

true lilly wrote:
1988
January 1-
The Soviet Union begins its program of economic restructuring (perestroika)
with legislation initiated by Premier Mikhail Gorbachev
(though Gorbachev had begun minor restructuring in 1985).

December 21 – Pan Am Flight 103 is blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland,
killing a total of 270 people. Those responsible are believed to be Libyans.

The U.S. Drought of 1988
causes big crop damage in many states,
impacts many portions of the United States and
causes around $60 billion in damage.
Multiple regions suffer in the conditions.
Heat waves cause 4,800 to 17,000 excess deaths
while scorching many areas of the United States during 1988.

68,000
68...

https://da-dk.facebook.com/pages/B-68-Toftir/189975722323

A N Z I O
Australia ZION

true lilly wrote:
I quickly posted the news below,
BEFORE MY P.C. WAS REMOTELY TURNED OFF, AGAIN,
as it WAS, BEFORE I SENT the previous post.

I hadn't even finished writing it, and sure enough,
when I got the pages back up, the previous post
was NOT THERE, so I went back to simply copying and pasting
what I started with, and sent it 'as is', without fixing the format,
then I clicked 'send', and low and behold, there was my OLD,
UNSENT POST, on the page.

So anyway, I've left this page as a reminder to thinking readers;
that when 'they' slag me off, for "cut & paste/spam",
'they' KNOW VERY WELL that, THAT TO, IS A BALD FACED LIE,
as ALL MY NEWS POSTS WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS, IF I didn't
care to bother to at least to format them to be readable.

And, UNLIKE "tintin" and his team, I DON'T invent a swap of
UN-RELATED, UN-CONNECTED, OLD, NON-News, to EXCUSE
and HIDE, SECRET CODED MESSAGES 'They' DO WRITE IN to
'Their' Posts.

I simply share News and information
that IS ALREADY FREELY AVAILABLE,
and ask folk to REALLY THINK, FOR THEMSELVES,
about what it all REALLY MEANS,
IN THE SAVING LIGHT of THE TRUTH of GOD'S,
LOVING, WARNING WORD, that is also, still,
FREELY AVAILABLE for ALL TO STUDY.

John 1:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#1

In ¹⁷²² the beginning ⁷⁴⁶ was ²²⁵⁸ the Word ³⁰⁵⁶,
and ²⁵³² the Word ³⁰⁵⁶ was ²²⁵⁸ with ⁴³¹⁴ God ²³¹⁶,
and ²⁵³² the Word ³⁰⁵⁶ was ²²⁵⁸ God ²³¹⁶.

The same ³⁷⁷⁸ was ²²⁵⁸
in ¹⁷²² the beginning ⁷⁴⁶
with ⁴³¹⁴ God ²³¹⁶.

All things ³⁹⁵⁶ were made ¹⁰⁹⁶ by ¹²²³ him ⁸⁴⁶;
and ²⁵³² without ⁵⁵⁶⁵ him ⁸⁴⁶ was ¹⁰⁹⁶ ⁰ not ³⁷⁶¹
any thing ¹⁵²⁰ made ¹⁰⁹⁶ that ³⁷³⁹ was made ¹⁰⁹⁶ .

In ¹⁷²² him ⁸⁴⁶ was ²²⁵⁸ life ²²²²;
and ²⁵³² the life ²²²²
was ²²⁵⁸ the light ⁵⁴⁵⁷ of men ⁴⁴⁴.

And ²⁵³² the light ⁵⁴⁵⁷ shineth ⁵³¹⁶
in ¹⁷²² darkness ⁴⁶⁵³;
and ²⁵³² the darkness ⁴⁶⁵³
comprehended ²⁶³⁸ it ⁸⁴⁶ not ³⁷⁵⁶.

Pilots ponder legal action over 'insane' Qantas grounding
(I'll save you the UN-reformated rest, and add what I finally
got to show on the original post)

true lilly wrote:Pilots ponder legal action
over 'insane' Qantas grounding
From:AAP
October 30, 2011
11:46AM

THE Australian International Pilots Association (AIPA) is looking
into taking legal action against Qantas, describing the decision to
ground the fleet as "insane" and possibly in breach of the Fair Work Act.

Speaking outside the Qantas domestic terminal at Sydney Airport,
AIPA vice-president Captain Richard Woodward said the union had its
legal team looking into the legal options.

"We think that Alan (Joyce) may have been in breach of the Fair Work Act by his actions,"
he said.

"He has locked out the short-haul pilots,
they are not in this dispute -
their award is not up for negotiation
until next year."

Mr Woodward said
the short-haul operations of Qantas
was the most profitable arm of the airline.

"It's an insane reaction," he said.

Qantas pilots never had any intention of going on strike
and claims to the contrary were simply untrue, Mr Woodward said.

Related Coverage
Qantas grounds all flights The Australian, 1 hour ago
Pilots say reaction was well planned Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Joyce 'holding knife to nation's throat' Perth Now, 1 hour ago
Qantas plans worst scenario The Daily Telegraph, 5 days ago
Pilots may ramp up action Foundation, 18 Oct 2011

"All we were thinking about doing was
not ringing in before heading into work," he said.

"We are very conservative people,
we know that Qantas passengers hold us intrust ...
they trust us to get them there safely
and we always intended on doing that."

AIPA said it was seeking a new clause in the enterprise bargaining agreement
with Qantas that would ensure that all of the airline's flights
were operated by pilots from the flying kangaroo
as opposed to being outsourced.

He said the only industrial action Qantas pilots had been taking was inflight
announcements about the industrial dispute as well as the donning of red
ties that carried the message "Qantas flight, Qantas pilots".
•
ASSISTANT Treasurer Bill Shorten says Qantas' decision to ground its
fleet was a "radical overreaction" to the standoff between the airline
and unions.

"You don't lock out your passengers to square off with your employees,"
Mr Shorten said.

"If the unions had locked out the passengers,
I would have been equally outraged,

"But in this case it is the Qantas management that has done, in my opinion,
the premature and wrong thing when plenty could have been done in a
sensible nature."
______________________________________________________________

Some may remember that we recently admitted to
NOT DOING SECURITY CHECKS...and KNOWING we WEREN'T
FOR A LONG TIME...

Defence overhaul after fake security checks - ABC News (Australian ...
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-20/defence...security.../3580568
20 Oct 2011 – Related Story: Defence to investigate fake security checks ...

Qantas flights resume following security breach at Sydney Airport
POSTED ON 19/9/11 LATEST:
Qantas flights from Sydney Airport's
domestic terminal have recommenced,
following a security breach late this morning
when two people entered the secure area of the terminal
without underg...

Australian Airport Workers Face Stringent Security Checks | News 4 Us
www.news4us.com/australian-airport...security-checks/2210272/
3 May 2011 – News 4 Us · Home · Featured News ... Australian Airport Workers Face Stringent Security Checks. Australia ... Pinging is currently not allowed. ...

Vic, WA fight ID theft with document checks - Security - News ...
www.zdnet.com.au/vic-wa-fight-id-theft-with-document-checks-339...
11 Jul 2011 – Victoria and Western Australia have signed up to use a ... FTTP" Why not roll out FTTP save time and money by doing the job properly the first ti. ...

Defence staff told to fake security checks - ABC News (Australian ...
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-16/...to...security-checks/2716110
16 May 2011 – Three former Defence Department staff say security at Australian military ... They were responsible for doing security checks on private security guards ... is not an address here, no employment, questions like that," she said. ...

Czech President Klaus
refuses to pass security check
in Australian parliament.Czech President Klaus refuses to pass security check in Australian parliament
Posted by EIP-News
Posted on Tuesday, July 26th, 2011

Czech President Vaclav Klaus, on a trip to Australia,
today refused to pass through a security check at the
entrance to the Australian parliament, server abc.net.au has reported,
citing a witness from among local journalists.

Australian TV channel ABC1, which has its studio in the parliament
building, wanted to make an interview with Klaus, who, however,
refused to go through a security detector.

The programme producer Michelle Ainsworth, who had waited for him
behind the detector in order to usher him to the studio, informed him
that all visitors are supposed to undergo the check.

Klaus, nevertheless, insisted on not doing so.

Ainsworth consulted a parliament security guard
who confirmed that everybody must pass through the check.

In reaction to this, Klaus said he would not go through and returned
to his hotel. To make an interview with him, the ABC1 may visit him in
the hotel, he said.

He left without saying good-bye, said Ainsworth.

According to the server theaustralian.com.au, ABC1
could not make the interview outside its studio for technical reasons.

Klaus, 70, has been on a trip to Australia since last week with a
series of lectures on climate change, the theory he resolutely
denies.(ČTK-Czech Press Agency).
___________________________________________

...so I get the feeling this TOTAL GROUNDING of QANTAS
was us being, "ALERT AND ALARMED"!!!

...and of course, 'they' still 'simply have to' keep messing with this post

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