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true lilly wrote: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 3364150-femme-avec-r-tro-antenne-sur-sa-t-te-la-recherche-confuse [b] And, the character of 'Ciggy' should have been 'retired', long ago,
around the time the character 'Ciggy' stopped trying to be clever
and witty, and simply resorted spitting out angry, bald faced lies,
in support of all the boastfully self confessed and self evident,
insane and evil loving, posters of bald faced lies...should have, IF,
some associated with "FOUNDATION", weren't actually helping
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Post  true lilly Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:36 pm

Here we go, just a little evidence that "tintin" does NOT 'DECODE',
but rather, USES CODE TO SECRETLY COMMUNICATE, in public.

Now I find so many of these, by "tintin", "cori" and others, that
it is hard to decide where to start and stop, in showing folk.

But I will ask people to just have a random scroll through some
of "tintin/cori's" earlier and later posts, to SEE HOW OFTEN 'they'
CHANGE what 'they' 'link' and what 'they' 'say something means'.

Two main reasons for this: when an old CODE is "BROKEN", 'they'
need a NEW CODE; when 'SITUATIONS' CHANGE, so do ORDERS.

Well it isn't only the physical earth and 'MOUNTAINS' that are now
SHAKING, but 'MOUNTAINS' of 'power' built by men of DUST, so,
lots of coded chatter is going on.

But as I've always stated, codes and puzzles are NOT 'my thing',
but rather, patterns and breaks and anomalies in patterns that
INDICATE when "OTHER THINGS" ARE BEING "SAID".

And as I've also always stated, I KNOW GOD HAS ALWAYS had
HIS 'CALLED OUT' doing their parts, big and small (and often,
not being aware of it at the time), in FULFILLING HIS PROMISES.

Among them, ARE, CODE BREAKERS.

I pray they are onto THIS:


tintin wrote:BONANZA adressed RACISM. Uniquely for that time
Quote:

Bigotry, and specifically anti-semitism, was the subject of the episode
"Look to the Stars" (Season 3, Episode 26; original air date 18/3/62).


ANTISEMITISM was the subject of episode 92.
It was aired on 18 MARCH, birthday AJAX AMSTERDAM aka THE JEWS.
Episode 92 was LOOK TO THE STARS. (of DAVID)

PAKISTAN, code 92. Founded by JINNAH, dead 11 SEPTEMBER.
BEN CARTWRIGHT played by LORNE GREENE, dead 11 SEPTEMBER
BIN LADEN dead in PAKISTAN.
_________________________________________________________________

Now let me draw your attention, with some underlines and
blue and red font, to what can NOT be passed off as a typo, mistake,
or any of 'their' cover stories used when 'they' are busted.


26. Yet he 'plays down' and 'hides behind' bigger red font, 62,
then proceeds to CHANGE 26 to 92?


And, keeping in mind how 'flexible' "tintin/cori" are with "their"
flipping, reversing, shuffling and changing of LETTERS and NUMBERS
(like 'making' 26 'mean' 'NEDA DEAD' 'from' a "206" Peugeot that she
was NOT EVEN IN, when
SNIPER SHOT TO DEATH), in order to "SAY
WHAT 'THEY' SECRETLY MEAN"... 9+2=11...
...read on:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060511098&postcount=33449
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3345
________________________________________________________________
BONANZA adressed RACISM. Uniquely for that time
Quote:

Bigotry, and specifically anti-semitism, was the subject of the episode
"Look to the Stars" (Season 3, Episode 26; original air date 18/3/62).


ANTISEMITISM was the subject of episode 92.
It was aired on 18 MARCH, birthday AJAX AMSTERDAM aka THE JEWS.
Episode 92 was LOOK TO THE STARS. (of DAVID)

PAKISTAN, code 92. Founded by JINNAH, dead 11 SEPTEMBER.
BEN CARTWRIGHT played by LORNE GREENE, dead 11 SEPTEMBER
BIN LADEN dead in PAKISTAN.
Interesting (to me, and noted by others), that BOTH times I was
savagely beaten into hospital, 8 months apart, was ON The 26th.

The second time being on 26/1, AUSTRALIA DAY.

From here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060511986&postcount=33461

The Calculus Affair (1956) · The Red Sea Sharks (1958) ·
Tintin in Tibet (1960) · The Castafiore Emerald (1963) ·
Flight 714 (1968) · Tintin and the Picaros (1976) ·
Tintin and Alph-Art
(1986, unfinished)


I came to here:

The Red Sea Sharks
(Coke en stock)

'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Tintin_Cover_-_The_Red_Sea_Sharks
Cover of the English edition

The Red Sea Sharks is the nineteenth of The Adventures of Tintin,
a series of classic comic-strip albums written and illustrated by Hergé,
featuring young reporter Tintin as a hero.
Its original French title is Coke en stock ("coke in stock") a codename
used by the villainous antagonists of the story for African slaves.

The Red Sea Sharks is notable for bringing together
a large number of characters
from previous Tintin adventures,
going all the way back to Cigars of the Pharaoh:


And no sooner have they got rid of one pest
when another arrives –
Jolyon Wagg.

Then back to here:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060511952&postcount=33460
dixie wrote:I translated the article. When I see Waka Waka it always reminds me of Wagga Wagga because on that page you see the following...

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After these edits were made:
dixie wrote:
(After the awarding of the FIFA-Ballon d'Or triumph of Lionel Messi, the atmosphere was festive in the aircraft to return to Catalonia.)
On the Catalonia Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:
It borders France and Andorra to the north, Aragon
to the west, the Valencian Community to the south, and the
Mediterranean Sea to the east (580 km coastline). The official languages
are Catalan, Spanish and Aranese (Occitan).
Aragon reminds me a bit of Argon and Argon to me also means Welders
and Welder could also me Hobart but the welder was made in America.
I highlighted Triumph because I used the Welder on my Triumph TR6.
When I left the UK I gave the Welder to a guy by the name of Reg and his wife Wendy,
I have a picture here of Reg with a T-Shirt on with the name Hard Rock Cafe

Also on the Enrique Murciano Wiki page you see the following...

Quote:
He also appeared in the music video "Yes We Can" and in the video directed by Demi Moore "Presidential Pledge".
This morning after drinking some Bacardi and Coke last night my
head is buzzing again, Bacardi and Coke also reminds me of the Bamboo
Bar and a guy name Lee, who told Jules that the Bacardi he purchased in
Chaing Rai was bad, the Bacardi I purchased came from Tesco, and
Rimping. I've just made some Executive American Blend Coffee which
reminds me of Obama. I also don't know if it means anything but it's
just started to Rain here, which is unusual for this time of year.

I don't know if there are any links, I'll look into the article a bit more...
Last edited by dixie d; 12-01-2012 at 02:49 AM.
...but I won't bother explaining more...
...those who UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND.


Oh but in between, Murciano led me to:

'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Title A
Research Tool for
Sephardic Genealogy / Jewish Genealogy

http://www.sephardim.com/

...via:

'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 338px-Escudo_de_Murcia.svg
Murcia (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmurθja]),
a city in south-eastern Spain,
is the capital and most populous city of
the Autonomous Community of the Region of Murcia,
and the seventh largest city in the country...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia,_Spain

"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud Expert
on PLANE CRASHES.

"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
WIKI shows THIS 'english language' USA Cover
Flight 714
(Vol 714 pour Sydney)

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Cover of the English language edition published in the USA

NOT these:

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'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 The_Adventures_o_4d10f40d26380
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 51YT9o9O%2BIL._SL500_AA300_
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 2634042832075516346
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 51sO5nAAzOL._SL500_AA300_
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 5099748714022

This is The First Google Image:
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZwyw4NMOM_VnTtw2ORpRQkXrrdeCDzA-bsjp3vqlRU7jfsM6IsA

The Carreidas 160,
from Herge's The Adventures of Tintin:
Flight 714
(TO SYDNEY)

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The TINTIN Movie OUT NOW:
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Tintin2

but also in that Google Image search:
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0u3NYWw5sCbCOxV58yi68kX7nBBg3jd5agKJ8P4Pby-JkeJKISFDp1EK2mQ
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NOT quite "TRIANGLES like the "FAMOUS ONES" in Egypt,
but like these from the Land these people now 'said' to EXTINCT,
lived in. SOUTH AMERICA...

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'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Image1
Like these people also 'said' to be EXTINCT,
from TASMANIA of the Land of OZ[ION]...


But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES!


The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM,
is that it causes
the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED
into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE
of
TOES of IRON MINGLED with CLAY,
"as if" it is 'many' of those ages, so
WE MISS ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS
of WARNING,
and HATE and BLAME GOD
for 'not' KEEPING HIS PROMISES
instead of
SEEING that in FACT,
HE HAS KEPT THEM ALL!

Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?
Rolling Eyes
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1676

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Aboriginal people believe
we have been here "forever".

According to current scientific
theories,
it is thought that Aborigines have
occupied Australia
for over 60,000 years -
and possibly
more than 100,000 years.

<blockquote>'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 2651841
PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...

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Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...
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Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina

'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Samerica
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 World_map_upside_down_postcard-p239671036251018558qibm_400
...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558
'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 DAY_googearth
</blockquote>The Real Promised Land
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1206p30-the-real-promised-land

...remember,
like "Euphrates", "Ethiopia" etc.
there is NO "RED" SEA in The Bible,
IT IS THE REEDY SEA....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/
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Post  true lilly Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:49 pm

Now please, KNOW THIS:

If anyone of Authority, had have told me,
"shut up about Australia", during any of
the decades I've been asking these questions
and seeking real answers, I WOULD HAVE.

As it was, even when I did put it out there
for the public to consider, I worried that I
shouldn't be.

But, as I am an unconnected nobody, who
doesn't spy and pry, when I do know something,
IT IS ALREADY COMMON KNOWLEDGE, but
MOSTLY AMONG THE ENEMIES of LIFE, doing
the spying, prying, lying and plotting, AGAINST
GOD AND THE LIVING.

But as The Islands have "kept silent" for 100's
of years, and we have renewed our strength...
well, I simply couldn't keep WATCHING and
not WARNING:

ISAIAH 41:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&t=KJV#1
Keep silence 2790 before me, O islands 339;
and let the people 3816 renew 2498 [their] strength 3581:
let them come near 5066;
then let them speak 1696:
let us come near 7126 together 3162 to judgment 4941.


FROM THE BEGINNING...
line upon line,
command upon command,
precept upon precept,
here a little there a little...

...time, times and half a time...

DANIEL 12:7 & REVELATIONS 12:14
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=time+times+and+half+a+time&t=KJV

And I heard 8085 the man 376 clothed 3847 in linen 906,
which [was] upon 4605 the waters 4325 of the river 2975,
when he held up 7311 his right hand 3225
and his left hand 8040 unto heaven 8064,
and sware 7650 by him that liveth 2416 for ever 5769
that [it shall be] for a time 4150, times 4150, and an half 2677;
and when he shall have accomplished 3615
to scatter 5310 the power 3027 of the holy 6944 people 5971,
all these [things] shall be finished 3615.

And 2532 to the woman 1135 were given 1325
two 1417 wings 4420 of a great 3173 eagle 105,
that 2443 she might fly 4072 into 1519 the wilderness 2048,
into 1519 her 846 place 5117, where 3699 she is nourished 5142
for a time 1563 2540, and 2532 times 2540,
and 2532 half 2255 a time 2540,

from 575 the face 4383 of the serpent 3789.


2 KINGS 19:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ki&c=19&v=1&t=KJV#1
(the link above is to, 'Strongs Exhaustive Concordance of The Bible
with Dictionary of the HEBREW and GREEK'
, and the passage here
is from the New World Translation of Holy Scripture
; but do go to
the Strongs link, for the Descriptive, Root Meanings, and see also
that the 'same' word, is NOT always 'the same word', but from
sometimes subtle and sometimes quite different root words.

And note the VASTLY DIFFERENT SONG BEING SUNG,
when KEY WORDS
are misheard, misunderstood and misbelieved, as in
this one of oh so many examples:

Nile canals of Egypt.’
=
rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.
)

14
Then Hez·e·ki´ah took the letters out of the hand
of the messengers and read them, after which Hez·e·ki´ah
went up to the
house of Jehovah and spread it out before Jehovah.
15
And Hez·e·ki´ah began to pray before Jehovah and
say: “O Jehovah the God of Israel, sitting upon the cherubs,
you alone are the [true] God of all the kingdoms of the earth.
You yourself have made the heavens and the earth.
16
Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear. Open your eyes,
O Jehovah, and see, and hear the words of Sen·nach´er·ib
that he has sent to taunt the living God.
17
It is a fact, O Jehovah, the kings of As·syr´i·a have devastated
the nations and their land.
18
And they have consigned their gods to the fire,
because they were no gods, but the workmanship
of man’s hands, wood and stone; so that they destroyed them.
19
And now, O Jehovah our God, save us, please, out of his hand,
that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you,
O Jehovah, are God alone.”


20
And Isaiah the son of A´moz proceeded to send to Hez·e·ki´ah,
saying: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said,
‘The prayer that you have made to me concerning Sen·nach´er·ib
the king of As·syr´i·a I have heard.
21
This is the word that Jehovah has spoken against him:


“The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you,
she has held you in derision.
Behind you the daughter of Jerusalem has wagged her head.

22
Whom have you taunted and spoken of abusively?
And against whom have you lifted up your voice
And do you raise your eyes on high?
It is against the Holy One of Israel!

23
By means of your messengers you have taunted Jehovah
and you say, ‘With the multitude of my war chariots I myself—
I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.

24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet
all the Nile canals of Egypt.
=rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.

25
Have you not heard? From remote times it is what I will do.
From bygone days I have even formed it.
Now I will bring it in.
And you will serve to make fortified cities desolate as piles of ruins.

26
And their inhabitants will be feeble-handed;
They will simply be terrified and will be ashamed.
They must become as vegetation of the field and green tender grass,
Grass of the roofs, when there is a scorching before the east wind.

27
And your sitting quiet and your going out and your coming in
I well know, And your exciting yourself against me,

28
Because your exciting yourself against me and your roaring
have come up into my ears.
And I shall certainly put my hook in your nose and
my bridle between your lips,
And I shall indeed lead you back
by the way by which you have come.”




...so NO, it was NOT my, 'reading something into
some bits of scripture', that caused me to post
publicly, what I kept finding, but ALL I kept finding
as I keep searching through ALL of God's Word and
comparing and testing it with what IS REAL in THIS,
WHOLE, REAL WORLD, as ANYONE IS FREE TO DO,
IF they seek, with their WHOLE HEARTS and MINDS,
to FAITHFULLY SERVE, GOD THE CREATOR of LIFE,
WHO can not lie, keeps all HIS promises and IS,
PERFECTLY JUST.


BLESS GOD, BLESS THE KING, BLESS HIS HOUSE.
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true lilly wrote: .......'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 4254

................... rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin
And as I've also always stated, I KNOW GOD
HAS ALWAYS had
HIS 'CALLED OUT' doing their parts, big and small (and often,
not being aware of it at the time), in FULFILLING HIS PROMISES.

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Barnacle Bill wrote: It's definitely not you , you New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.........you're exactly like David Icke.a sufferer of the Nacissistic Personality Disorder.....you mislead the gullible......................................Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a "narcissist" or as someone with "narcissism." Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.................•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
•Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
•Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
•Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
•Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
•Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
.............
thumbs up

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm

ANTISEMITISM rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin

But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES....................The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM, is that it causes the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE PERU...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...
{YHWHs Covenant with Abraham/Israel is eternal...........He forgives them for their human foibles.here lilly is saying that YHWH is a liar and promise breaker...she promotes Church Replacement Theology..aNew age Neo Pagan fantasy.........)

http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home&type=2
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12


The hideous falsehood known as [u]replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust......................................
..



The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build..........................Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?


lilly, you said it yourself....you are crazy, batshit crazy..... thumbs up ......... you are a crazed New age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.......what you are doing is known as Eisegesis..the opposite of exegesis......

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eisegesis

Definition of EISEGESIS
: the interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas — compare exegesis

THIS: is what honest Scriptural researchers engage in:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exegesis

Definition of EXEGESIS
: exposition, explanation; especially : an explanation or critical interpretation of a text








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true lilly wrote: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Satan-by-jack-chick Now please, KNOW THIS:

If anyone of Authority, had have told me,
"shut up about Australia", during any of
the decades I've been asking these questions
and seeking real answers, I WOULD HAVE. But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, Israel/Zion
"They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ/Australia for
THEMSELVES!

Actually, scripture itself rebukes your lies, False translations perpetuate false interpretations, and false interpretations lead to false churches. thumbs up

And to call Israel/Zion a 'useless piece of desert illuminates your ignorance and deceit.....here are the actual facts:..

The 7 Wonders of the Jewish World

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=245708

1. Monotheism

There is an old ditty which goes, “How odd of God, to choose the Jews.” One of the many rejoinders is: “It’s not so odd; the Jews chose God.” Yet it is that very choosing of God which is odd and remarkable. As archeologist and Egyptologist Henri Frankfort wrote, “The dominant tenet of Hebrew thought is the absolute transcendence of God. God is not in nature. Neither earth nor sun nor heaven is divine; even the most potent natural phenomena are but reflections of God’s greatness... it needs an effort of the imagination to realize the shattering boldness of a contempt for imagery at the time, and in the particular historical setting, of the Hebrews.”

Aside from its role in shaping religion, monotheism also laid the foundation for the rise of science; as several historians of science have noted, the idea that disparate phenomena all follow fundamental “laws” flowed from monotheism. And the billions of adherents of Christianity and Islam are all adopting a monotheism initiated by the Jewish People.

2. The Land of Israel


The land of Israel, promised to Abraham, is small. It does not host the greatest waterfalls or the tallest mountains. But it is nevertheless remarkable within the natural world. Geographically, the land of Israel is at the junction of three continents: Europe, Asia and Africa. Within its tiny area, it houses an incredible diversity of landscapes: snowy slopes, tropical beaches, arid deserts and green forests. As a result of all this, the land of Israel is home to an astonishingly diverse range of flora and fauna. It is the southernmost range of many northern species, the westernmost range of eastern species, and the northernmost range of southern species. As the Midrash states, Israel is the center of the world.


3. Torah

Literally meaning “teaching,” the word Torah is often used in the narrow sense of referring to the Five Books of Moses. But in its broadest sense, it refers to the entire gamut of Jewish teachings. This marvelous body of literature chronicles a nation’s efforts over millennia to connect with the Divine, to improve the individual, to regulate society and to stretch the mind. Scripture, Talmud, midrash, philosophy, mysticism, law, ethics – it encompasses every intellectual taste and every aspect of our lives.

4. The calendar

The wonder of the Jewish calendar is not limited to the way in which it manages to synchronize three entirely unrelated natural phenomena: the rotation of the earth on its axis, the revolution of the moon around the earth, and the revolution of the earth around the sun.

The very contents of the Jewish calendar are so much richer than in the joke which describes it as consisting of two types of events: “They tried to kill us, we won, let’s eat,” and “They tried to kill us, we didn’t win, let’s not eat.”

We celebrate national salvation and religious freedom; we observe days of solemnity, repentance and introspection; and we mourn the loss of people and precious elements of our heritage. Most wonderful of all is the Sabbath, during which, miraculously, I am able to resist checking my e-mail for a full twenty-four hours.

5. Jewish survival

The Jewish People, never large in number, have been faced with hatred for over 3,000 years. We have been exiled from our home and forced into servitude and exile among hostile nations. We have suffered persecution in every one of the numerous countries in which we have lived. Nations faced with far fewer existential threats have disappeared, and yet we have survived.

Mark Twain famously asked, “The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then... passed away. The Greek and the Roman followed. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts... What is the secret of his immortality?”

And we made it back to our homeland after 2,000 years of exile, an event completely unparalleled in world history.

6.The State of Israel

Like every citizen of Israel, and especially like every oleh (immigrant), I could rant endlessly about the shortcomings of the State of Israel (though unlike the citizens of our neighboring countries, I could do so without fear of being thrown in prison). But this would be a smallminded perspective that does not take into account the incredible challenges that the state overcomes.

Despite having to absorb an enormous number of immigrants in a short span of time, and having to devote a ridiculously large amount of resources to national defense, Israel has managed to create a vibrant democracy, an oasis of prosperity, producing astonishing accomplishments in every field, all while successfully repelling repeated attempts at annihilation.


7.Global significance

Although numbering only 0.2% of the total world population today, and never having numbered much more than that, the Jewish People have always had an inexplicably large impact upon the world. The spread of monotheism is the most significant example, but we have also made disproportionate contributions in every sphere of knowledge and endeavor. Meanwhile, the United Nations is obsessed with Israel, condemning it more than every other country put together. If anything, we’re too significant for our own good.

Those are the Seven Wonders of the Jewish World as I see them, which I think are much more wonderful than the Seven Wonders of the ancient world. Colossus, schmolossus.



more proof lilly is lying. thumbs up
Israeli Agriculture: Coping with Growth
By Jon Fedler
Editor of Agrictech Israel Magazine


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/agriculture/aggrowth.html

By the year 2020, Israel's population is expected to grow by 42 percent, to 8.5 million. This will cause huge increases in demand for agricultural produce and products; but urban use of land and water will also increase enormously.

In 2020 only half the amount of fresh water allocated to agriculture today (around 700 million cubic meters a year) will be available for this purpose and the amount of suitable land available for farming (360,000 hectares) will be 18 percent less than at present.

Part of the increased demand - notably for field crops (such as cereals, oilseeds and sugar) and for milk products, fish and beef - will have to be met by increased imports. Nevertheless a substantial part of that growing demand will have to come from increased domestic production. Sweeping changes will be required, such as a 33% increase in the labor force and a reduction in irrigated field crops, such as cotton, to make water available for growing fruit and vegetables for the local market.

The above is based on a study by the Ministry of Agriculture, which forecasts that despite its handicaps Israel will be able, by 2020, to increase production of agricultural goods by 48 percent over 1993 figures, averaging a growth of 1.5 percent per annum in real terms. This is certainly consistent with recent developments. Except for a brief period of uneven growth in the second half of the 1980s, agricultural output has grown consistently since 1948.

Despite the decline in its importance relative to other economic branches, agriculture has been growing in absolute terms and still plays an important part in Israel's economy, representing today some 2.0 percent of the Gross Domestic Product and about 3.5 percent of exports. Agricultural inputs produced in Israel are valued today at over $2 billion, of which 70% are exported.

Agriculture is of major national importance; in certain areas, such as the Arava and the Jordan Valley, it provides the sole means of livelihood for the population. In 1996 approximately 73,500 people were involved in farming, constituting about 3.0 percent of the country's workforce.

In monetary terms, Israel produces almost 70% of all its food requirements. It imports much of its grain, oilseeds, meat and fish, and its the sugar, coffee and cocoa. However, these imports are offset by exports of agricultural produce valued at around $800 million and $600 million worth of processed foods per annum. Today, just under a quarter of the income of Israel's farmers derives from the export of fresh produce, including items such as flowers, avocados, out-of-season vegetables and certain exotic fruits grown for export. In 1996 some 140,000 tons of fruit and vegetables - 14 percent of the entire crop - were sold to factories for processing and export.

This is a far cry from the situation a century ago. When Jews began resettling their historic homeland in the late 19th century, their first efforts were directed towards reclaiming the mostly semi-arid land, much of which was rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. Rocky fields were cleared and terraces built in the hilly regions; swampland was drained, and systematic reforestation begun; soil erosion was counteracted, and salty land washed to reduce soil salinity.

Since Israel attained its independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 165,000 ha. to some 435,000 ha. and the number of agricultural communities has grown from 400 to 900 (including 136 Arab villages). During the same period, agricultural production has expanded 16-fold, more than three times the rate of the population growth.

Israel's varied climatic, topographical and soil conditions (from sub-tropical to arid, from 400 meters below sea level to 1000 meters above and from sand dunes to heavy alluvial soils) made it possible to grow a wide range of agricultural produce. The success of the country's agriculture stems from the determination and ingenuity of farmers and scientists who have dedicated themselves to developing a flourishing agriculture in a country which is more than half desert, thus demonstrating that the real value of land is a function of how it is used................Growing Crops in the Desert
Since 1948, the sparsely populated desert area between Be'er Sheva and Eilat has played an important role in agricultural production. More than 40 percent of the country's vegetables and field crops are grown in the Arava and Negev and 90 percent of the melons exported come from the Arava.
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http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=191709

The Eternal Jew
One of the biggest cover-ups/False Flags in History is the massive misrepresentations/lies of and about the Jews. Their history, their beliefs, their culture etc.........

Over 300 years ago, King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great Christian philosopher, to give him proof of God. Pascal answered, “Why the Jews, your Majesty, the Jews!”
http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...ewish-history/


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That the Jewish nation—such a tiny group of people—survived two thousand years of exile and persecution was nothing short of a supernatural phenomenon. Pascal wasn’t the only one who was so amazed by the survival of the Jewish people. Other thinkers, philosophers and historians have noticed something unusual about the Jews.

Mark Twain, an agnostic and self-acknowledged skeptic, penned this in 1899 in Harper’s Magazine:

“The Egyptian, Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away. The Greek and Roman followed, made a vast noise and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up, and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out and they sit in twilight now or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal, but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”....................4) Anti-Semitism
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The term “anti-Semitism” itself is very curious. Why not refer to the hatred and persecution of Jews by more generic terms like religious bigotry, xenophobia, or racism? The Jews are the only group in the world with a unique term for their persecution. Why? The world seems to realize that anti-Semitism isn’t simply one more unfortunate example of hatred in the world, but is instead a phenomenon specific to the Jews.

There are four different aspects to anti-Semitism which characterize it as being a hatred like no other:

1) Universality
2) Intensity
3) Longevity
4) Irrationality

Universality:
The universal scope of anti-Semitism can be seen in the fact that Jews have been expelled from virtually every country in which they have resided. Jews were expelled from England in 1290, France in 1306 and 1394, Hungary in 1349 and 1360, Austria in 1421, from various places in Germany throughout the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, from Lithuania in 1445 and 1495, Spain in 1492, Portugal in 1497, and from Bohemia and Moravia in 1744-45. Between the 15th and 18th centuries, Jews were not permitted to enter Russia, and when they were finally admitted, they were restricted to one area, the Pale of Settlement.

Parallel to these atrocities in Europe were various levels of anti-Semitism at the hands of the Arabs. From Islam’s inception in the 7th century, the Jews living in Arab countries were constantly made to feel like second-class citizens. Violent outbreaks sporadically occurred throughout the following 1300 years and reached a climax during the years 1948 and 1967. During that period, almost all of the Jews living in Aden, Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Yemen, over 500,000 in all, were forced to flee, fearing for their lives, in the wake of pogroms, assaults and massacres.

Even as far away as Ethiopia, where a small community of Jews were cut off from the rest of the Jewish people for over 2000 years, we find evidence of persecution from the neighboring peoples. There has even been evidence of anti-Semitism in Japan—a country where virtually no Jews ever lived!
Jewish Persecution Timeline


Intensity:
The ultimate example is the Holocaust (acknowledged throughout the world as the ultimate manifestation of evil in all of history)—the only time an entire people (i.e., men, women and children) had a campaign of complete annihilation waged against them.


Longevity:
Most of the world’s great powers, even those with only a small percentage of Jews among them, regarded the Jews as a central enemy. This phenomenon began as early as the Greek persecutions of Jews during the Second Temple period. It continued with the late Roman Empire, the Arabs, and the Christian world for over 15 centuries (most notably with the frequent occurrence of blood libels all throughout the Middle Ages) and more recently with the Nazis and the Soviet Union, as well as the Arabs today.

FULL LIST OF EMPIRES AGAINST THE JEWS:
Egyptian Empire,
Chaldean Empire,
Babylonian Empire,
Greek Empire,
Roman Empire,
Byzantine Empire,
Spanish Empire,
Ottoman Turkish Empire,
British Empire,
Austro-Hungarian Empire,
German Empire,
French Empire,
Russia Empire,
Soviet Empire,
Nazi Empire

Irrationality:
We are the only people ever accused of “deicide” (killing a god)—this has been claimed as one of the major causes of anti-Semitism for almost 2000 years. Despite the fact that eating blood is as strong a prohibition as that against eating pork, Jews were constantly persecuted throughout the Middle Ages through blood libels, the charge that we drank the blood of non-Jewish children. We were attacked in pogroms for well-poisoning and once even for air-poisoning.

The Jews in Germany were accused of having brought Socialism and Communism to Germany, of being responsible for Germany losing World War I, and of causing the economic problems of the 1920’s. This paranoia existed in spite of the fact that the percentage of Jews in Germany at the time was only 0.8%. Many nations have even hurt themselves with their persecution of the Jews, most notably Spain (economically) and Germany (with science, culture, military, etc.).

A forgery purporting to be the conspiratorial discussions of Jewish elders plotting to take over the world, “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” was, next to the Bible, the best-selling book in the world during the 1920’s. It has since been printed in numerous languages. Since 1987 it is being widely distributed in Japan…

Of all the extreme fanaticism that plays havoc in man’s nature, there is none as irrational as anti-Semitism. The Jews cannot vindicate themselves in the eyes of these fanatics. If the Jews are rich, they are victims of theft and extortion. If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to gain advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because they are scared and anxious by nature or traitors to their country. If the Jew dwells in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to his own land, he is prevented from doing so. - Lloyd George, 1923



Whatever we do, that is precisely what is cited as the reason for the hatred against us. At the same time that Jews in America were accused of being communists, Jews in Russia were being labeled as capitalists. The more one studies anti-Semitism, the more obvious it becomes that the innumerable “explanations” offered throughout the various societies in which Jews have resided are not reasons at all (i.e. whose absence would necessarily result in no more persecutions), but rather excuses.

But as my research into Jewish history progressed, I was surprised, depressed, and to some extent overwhelmed by the perpetual and irrational violence which pursued the Jews in every country and to almost every corner of the globe. If, therefore, persecution, expulsion, torture, humiliation, and mass murder haunt these pages, it is because they also haunt the Jewish story.
- Martin Gilbert, “Jewish History Atlas” Oxford 1985

It has been prophesied in the Torah that Jews will be persecuted:

“Among those nations you shall find no respite, no rest for your foot. There God will make you cowardly, destroying your outlook and making life hopeless. You will live in constant suspense. Day and night, you will be terrified, never sure of your existence. In the morning you will say, ‘If only it were night,’ and in the evening you will say, ‘If only it were morning!’ Such will be the dread that your heart will feel and the sights that your eyes will see” (Deut. 28:65-67).

No other form of racial hatred comes close to anti-Semitism in its virulence, its intensity and its irrationality.

As Professor Michael Curtis of Rutgers University put it:

“The uniqueness of anti-Semitism lies in the fact that no other people in the world have ever been charged simultaneously with alienation from society and with cosmopolitanism, with being capitalistic exploiters and also revolutionary communist advocators. The Jews were accused of having an imperious mentality, at the same time they’re a people of the book. They’re accused of being militant aggressors, at the same time as being cowardly pacifists. With being a chosen people, and also having an inferior human nature. With both arrogance and timidity. With both extreme individualism and community adherence. With being guilty of the crucifixion of Jesus and at the same time held to account for the invention of Christianity.” (Colloquium on anti-Semitism, 1987)

If we look at the history of anti-Semitism, we see one unceasing chain of slaughter, pogroms, pillaging, expulsion, etc. There are horrendous levels of violence that lead up to the worst thing that can be done to a hated people: Genocide. Most nations in history have not been subjected to even one genocide. But in almost every generation there’s an attempted Jewish genocide somewhere in the world on a macrocosmic or microcosmic scale.
Jewish Persecution Timeline


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdCo...aspx?id=245708



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Dispersed among the Nations, the Jews brought a great many benefits to a great many people. As a Gentile I thank them and YHWH. thumbs up


http://www.jinfo.org/

"And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many peoples, as dew from the Lord, as showers upon the grass..." MICAH 5:6*


The Jews started it all - and by "it" I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and Gentile, believer and atheist, tick. Without the Jews, we would see the world with different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings. And not only would our sensorium, the screen through which we receive the world, be different: we would think with a different mind, interpret all our experience differently, draw different conclusions from the things that befall us. And we would set a different course for our lives.
By "we" I mean the usual "we" of late-twentieth-century writing: the people of the Western world, whose peculiar but vital mentality has come to infect every culture on earth, so that, in a startlingly precise sense, all humanity is now willy-nilly caught up in this "we." For better or worse, the role of the West in humanity's history is singular. Because of this, the role of the Jews, the inventors of Western culture, is also singular: there is simply no one else remotely like them; theirs is a unique vocation. Indeed, as we shall see, the very idea of vocation, of a personal destiny, is a Jewish idea.

Our history is replete with examples of those who have refused to see what the Jews are really about, who - through intellectual blindness, racial chauvinism, xenophobia, or just plain evil - have been unable to give this oddball tribe, this raggle-taggle band, this race of wanderers who are the progenitors of the Western world, their due. Indeed, at the end of this bloodiest of centuries, we can all too easily look back on scenes of unthinkable horror perpetrated by those who would do anything rather than give the Jews their due.

But I must ask my readers to erase from their minds not only the horrors of history - modern, medieval, and ancient - but (so far as one can) the very notion of history itself. More especially, we must erase from our minds all the suppositions on which our world is built - the whole intricate edifice of actions and ideas that are our intellectual and emotional patrimony. We must reimagine ourselves in the form of humanity that lived and moved on this planet before the first word of the Bible was written down, before it was spoken, before it was even dreamed ...

... All evidence points to there having been, in the earliest religious thought, a vision of the cosmos that was profoundly cyclical. The assumptions that early man made about the world were, in all their essentials, little different from the assumptions that later and more sophisticated societies, like Greece and India, would make in a more elaborate manner. As Henri-Charles Puech says of Greek thought in his seminal Man and Time: "No event is unique, nothing is enacted but once ... every event has been enacted, is enacted, and will be enacted perpetually; the same individuals have appeared, appear, and will appear at every turn of the circle."

The Jews were the first people to break out of this circle, to find a new way of thinking and experiencing, a new way of understanding and feeling the world, so much so that it may be said with some justice that theirs is the only new idea that human beings have ever had. But their world view has become so much a part of us that at this point it might as well have been written into our cells as a genetic code. We find it so impossible to shed - even for a brief experiment - that it is now the cosmic vision of all other peoples that appears to us exotic and strange.


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Adapted with permission of the publisher from A History of the Jews, by Paul Johnson (HarperCollins, New York, ©️1987, p. 585; http://www.harpercollins.com).
In his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus describes Abraham as 'a man of great sagacity' who had 'higher notions of virtue than others of his time'. He therefore 'determined to change completely the views which all then had about God'. One way of summing up 4,000 years of Jewish history is to ask ourselves what would have happened to the human race if Abraham had not been a man of great sagacity, or if he had stayed in Ur and kept his higher notions to himself, and no specific Jewish people had come into being. Certainly the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they have been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of the human person; of the individual conscience, and so of personal redemption; of the collective conscience, and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items that constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without the Jews it might have been a much emptier place. Above all, the Jews taught us how to rationalize the unknown. The result was monotheism...



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Adapted with permission of the publisher from On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense at the American Founding, by Michael Novak (Encounter Books, San Francisco, CA, ©️2002, pp. 8-12; http://www.encounterbooks.com).
"The Bible was the one book that literate Americans in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth centuries could be expected to know well," Robert Bellah has written. "Biblical imagery provided the basic framework for imaginative thought in America up until quite recent times and, unconsciously, its control is still formidable." As a design for the Seal of the United States, Jefferson suggested "a representation of the children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night." He later concluded his second inaugural address with this same image: "I shall need ... the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old, from their native land and planted them in a country flowing with all the necessaries and comforts of life." The image of "God's American Israel" made available four fresh perspectives, brought to intense focus by the Americans in a new and historically original way.

The first of these new perspectives was a narrative of purpose and progress. The Gentiles of the ancient world believed in cycles of time as regular (they thought) as the circular movements of the stars. They believed in eternal recurrence. But the Americans of 1770-1799 did not believe that time is cyclical, going nowhere, spinning in circles pointlessly. They believed that history had a beginning and was guided by Providence for a purpose... Time (in the view of the founders) was created for the unfolding of human liberty, for human emancipation. This purpose requires humans to choose for or against building cities worthy of the ideals God sets before them: liberty, justice, equality, self-government, and brotherhood...

... History, in this sense - open, purposive, contingent in liberty - is not a Greek or Roman idea. It is Hebraic; its source springs from the Biblical historians and prophets. Probably most of the humans who had ever lived before the arrival of Judaism on the world stage never even heard of "progress." The literature of Greece and Rome looks backwards, to golden ages of the past; the movement of time is circular. For Jews and Christians, by contrast, history is heading somewhere new: toward the New Kingdom of God, a kingdom of justice and love and peace, a new city on a hill...

... Second, Hebrew metaphysics held that everything in creation in all its workings and purposes is intelligible - suffused with reason, not absurd - in the eyes of a divine and loving Creator, Who created from nothing everything that is, and saw that it was good, and loved it; a Creator Who is more powerful than earthquakes, floods, erupting volcanos, hurricanes or anything else in the world, and different from them. One should not mistake this God for any part of His creation - as the Mayan Indians seem to have done, identifying God with rain and snakes and frogs and jackals (powerful forces in the dark, all of them). On the one hand, the world is not in itself divine. On the other, its Creator cannot be touched, tasted, heard, seen, or smelled. The Creator is independent of the world; therefore, the world can be looked into, investigated, and experimented with without infringing on His divinity. Strictly speaking, the Creator is beyond human categories, cannot be expressed in words that are like other words, imagined from the things of this world, or named as other things are named. He is not part of the material world. Seeking Him, it is better to aim one's mind in the direction of Spirit and Truth rather than matter, toward an Ineffable One Whom we do not name...

...Third, cherishing humble and weak things most of all, the Creator made at least two creatures to know Him, to love Him, and in total freedom (and not as slaves) to walk with Him - "male and female, He made them" (Genesis 1:27). "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time," Jefferson wrote summarizing the Biblical metaphysic. Liberty is the human condition established by the Bible, nearly every chapter of which turns upon its axis. What will Adam, King David, Peter, Saul, do next? Liberty is the axis of the universe, the ground of the possibility of love, human and divine... Moreover, the American tradition clearly distinguished a false idea of liberty - license - from the true liberty exercised in reflection and deliberate choice. Despite this high calling, men and women fail often, are vulnerable to human weakness, and are in want of checks and balances against their frailties.

Fourth, in Hebrew metaphysics the brief span of a human life is experienced as a time of suffering, testing whether humans can remain faithful to God's purposes in creating them - whether we will (or will not) show grace under pressure. In the Bible, the bright red thread of human history is not just liberty but liberty on trial...

...This drama of liberty gave birth to two "whig" theories of history, one Protestant and one Catholic. Nowadays, even secular people interpret history in the light of progress, rights, and liberty. Yet unbelievers received these concepts neither from the Greeks and Romans nor from Enlightened Reason, but via the preaching of Jesus Christ, from whom the Gentiles learned the essential outlook of the Hebrews: that the Creator gave humans a special place among all other creatures, and made them free, and endowed them with incomparable responsibility and dignity.

This sequence of related conceptions - that time had a beginning and is measured for progress (or decline) by God's standards; that everything in the world is intelligible, and that to inquire, invent, and discover is an impulse of faith as well as of reason; that the Creator endowed us with liberty and inviolable dignity, while the Divine Judge shows concern for the weak and the humble; that life is a time of duty and trial; and that history is to be grasped as the drama of human liberty - all these are the background that make sense of the Declaration of Independence. America and Israel, the first Israel and the second, shed light on each other...
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Well......................if you liked this Thread thus far.now you're gonna be ecstatic!!!

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/quotes/

“I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations ... They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.”

- John Adams, Second President of the United States
(From a letter to F. A. Van der Kemp [Feb. 16, 1808] Pennsylvania Historical Society)

http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...pactofthejews/

Do any of you understand the concept of Abstract Ethical Monotheism?

“This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth… [But] for the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; [and] as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

- Robert Jastrow
(God and the Astronomers [New York: W.W. Norton and Co., 1978], 116. Professor Jastrow was the founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute, now director of the Mount Wilson Institute and its observatory.)


”...If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky way. properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.

The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed; and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”

- Mark Twain
(“Concerning The Jews,” Harper’s Magazine, 1899
see The Complete Essays of Mark Twain, Doubleday [1963] pg. 249)


“if we were forced to choose just one, there would be no way to deny that Judaism is the most important intellectual development in human history.”
- David Gelernter, Yale University Professor



“The preservation of the Jews is really one of the most signal and illustrious acts of divine Providence… and what but a supernatural power could have preserved them in such a manner as none other nation upon earth hath been preserved. Nor is the providence of God less remarkable in the destruction of their enemies, than in their preservation… We see that the great empires, which in their turn subdued and oppressed the people of God, are all come to ruin… And if such hath been the fatal end of the enemies and oppressors of the Jews, let it serve as a warning to all those, who at any time or upon any occasion are for raising a clamor and persecution against them.”

- Thomas Newton - British Clergyman: Bishop of Bristol (1704-1782)


“For many people during many centuries, mankind’s history before the coming of Christianity was the history of the Jews and what they recounted of the history of others. Both were written down in the books called the Old Testament, [the Torah] the sacred writings of the Jewish people ... They were the first to arrive at an abstract notion of God and to forbid his representation by images. No other people has produced a greater historical impact from such comparatively insignificant origins and resources ...”
- J.M. Roberts, History Of The World



Intolerance lies at the core of evil.
Not the intolerance that results
from any threat or danger.
But intolerance of another being who dares to exist.
Intolerance without cause. It is so deep within us,
because every human being secretly desires
the entire universe to himself.
Our only way out is to learn
compassion without cause. To care for each other
simple because that ‘other’ exists.
- Rabbi Menachem Mendle

This people are not eminent solely by their antiquity, but are also singular by their duration, which has always continued from their origin till now. For, whereas the nations of Greece and of Italy, of Lacedaemon, of Athens and of Rome, and others who came long after, have long since perished, these ever remain, and in spite of the endeavors of many powerful kings who have a hundred times tried to destroy them, as their historians testify, and as it is easy to conjecture from the natural order of things during so long a space of years, they have nevertheless been preserved (and this preservation has been foretold); and extending from the earliest times to the latest, their history comprehends in its duration all our histories (which it preceded by a long time).
- Pensees by Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1952 - Paragraph 620, p. 285


“Certainly, the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without Jews it might have been a much emptier place.”

- Paul Johnson
(Christian historian, author of A History of the Jews and A History of Christianity)


“This one book (the Bible) ... has attracted to it, and had concentrated on it, vastly more thought and has called forth more works, explanatory, illustrative, apologetic, upon its text, its meaning, its geography, its theology, its chronology, its evidences, its inspiration, its origin, than all the rest of the literature of the world put together. An immense bulk of the world’s literature owes its origin to this book.”
- Carlyle B Heynes in The Bible, Is it a True Book


“What is the Jew?...What kind of unique creature is this whom all the rulers of all the nations of the world have disgraced and crushed and expelled and destroyed; persecuted, burned and drowned, and who, despite their anger and their fury, continues to live and to flourish. What is this Jew whom they have never succeeded in enticing with all the enticements in the world, whose oppressors and persecutors only suggested that he deny (and disown) his religion and cast aside the faithfulness of his ancestors?!
The Jew - is the symbol of eternity. ... He is the one who for so long had guarded the prophetic message and transmitted it to all mankind. A people such as this can never disappear.
The Jew is eternal. He is the embodiment of eternity.”

- Leo Tolstoy
(What is the Jew?
quoted in The Final Resolution, pg. 189, printed in Jewish World periodical, 1908)


“Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas.”


It is against their own insoluble problem of being human that the dull and base in humanity are in revolt in anti-Semitism. Judaism, nevertheless, together with Hellenism and Christianity is an inalienable component of our Christian Western civilization, the eternal “call to Sinai” against which humanity again and again rebels.”
- Herman Rauschning, The Beast From the Abyss, pp. 155-56

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The Jews, not the New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi tru lilly The Jews; YHWHs 'Chosen Bearers of His Word' overwhemingly support Israel which ios th eREAL ZION................................NOT Australia the fake zion........... thumbs up

I think you need to understand what the word TRUTH means..........Factual reality based experience............your allegations that most people who acall themselves Jews are lying and that most Jews are opposed to Israel/Zionism are false. These allegations are not supported by facts.
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antiz...s_not_Jews.htm


In summary

Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemitic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please. However you may as well declare Jews to be organges for all the meaning that has. It is unfortunate that a few sites, mostly antisemitic ones such as Serendipity link to the sites of the Satmar and Neturei Karta and try to spin a narrative of Zionists being a minority of Jews. It's unfortunate both because people believe it and get their facts wrong, but also becuase of the antisemitism they spread, antisemitism that those who wish to draw a destinction between the minority called Jews and the "evil entity" they have been attacking called Zionism are more than susceptible to.


If you would bother to read actual, credentialed History books, you would know that the Khazari Nation never converted to Judaism............the Royal Family did(King Bula), but the population largely remained Pagan, Dendrists, Animists, polytheists....

The Facts are: Israel is more legitimate then many other Nations, The Jews in Israel are genetically decended from the Ancient Israelites.....The Arabs suffer more oppression and mistreatment from other arabs......

You've bought into too much antisemitic propaganda..............in this Thread you have called me a Dog, A Rat, and a Whore.........your judgements based on false beliefs..........YOU are the threat to peace, you are the fearmongering, hatemongering liar............
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/


Here's the question: anti-Zionist or non-Zionist, is there a difference? The answer is yes. A Zionist is someone who supports the existance of a State of Israel as a Jewish Home Land (where Jews and others can live). A non-Zionist is one is not a Zionist. An anti-Zionist is someone who activly disputes the fact that Israel has a right to exist. Note that this is not the same as disagreeing with one or more Israeli government policies, it's more like supporting the President of Iran's calls to wipe Israel off the map. One can disagree with the actions of Israel as a state without being against the state's right to exist, and the right of the Jewish people to have their home land. Often though anti-Zionism is a mask for antisemitism and anti-Zionists will regurgitate antisemitic propoganda that was used in Nazi Germany, just changing "Zionist" or "Jew". Arguments against "the Zionists" as often supported by "evidence" from antisemitic propoganda such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or through classic antisemitism such as blood liable. There is a huge difference between speaking out against Israeli policy you disagree with and falling in with a racist crowd and adopting their arguments.

http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq...faq/14-05.html


Diaspora Jews, on the whole, support Zionism in one way or another through active participation in aspects of the movement itself, or through public and/or financial support of Israel.

Some Diaspora Jews realize their belief in Zionism by immigrating to the Land of Israel (making 'aliyah' - "going up") to participate directly in the task of rebuilding the nation.

Diaspora Jews, whether or not associated with Zionist activities, have been enriched culturally, socially and spiritually by the reestablishment of Israel in its ancestral homeland. Even non-Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews find Israel an excellent place for Torah study


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Post  sharky Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:10 am

Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland


'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 Australian-desert-map

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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave

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http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

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Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 8 1104-3 flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
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Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Post  MoMo Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:22 am

The Miracle of Zionism
"Israel is the only nation in the world that is governing itself in the same territory, under the same name, and with the same religion and same language as it did 3,000 years ago." - Historian Barbara Tuchman

"Israel is the only nation on the face of the earth that was created by a sovereign act of God" - Pastor John Hagee

"All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?" - Author / Atheist, Mark Twain (long before the Holocaust and Israeli-Jewish statehood)

"They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their Empire were but a Bauble in comparison of the Jews. They have given religion to three quarters of the Globe and have influenced the affairs of Mankind more, and more happily, than any other Nation ancient or modern." - President John Adams - His 1808 response letter criticizing the depiction of Jews by the French Enlightenment philosopher Voltaire.
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Post  true lilly Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23 am

Oh, all those World Council of Churches 'experts'
who keep disagreeing about every minute detail
EXCEPT the 'out of Egypt' BALD FACED LIE?

Umm so, la/bong/bill, why aren't you at DIF
kicking the devil out of "tintin/cori/yass/et al"?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3347

FFS, they even got their rocks off on the death of a tree,
because Anne Frank looked it!


And I can assure you that "tintin" SPEWS THE SAME BITTER VENOM at 'Jews',
AS HE DOES ALL PAST AND PRESENT AUSTRALIAN SERVICEMEN, AND ALL
AUSTRALIANS GRATEFUL FOR THEIR PERSONAL SACRIFICES...oh, THAT'S WHY!

Look, I know you know what I know, but your job is to keep selling the lies,
and I simply provide real world evidences and links for others to consider if
they care to.

Unlike you, I'm not recruiting soldier salesmen to fight God, I'm not after
'numbers', I know that we're called by Spirit, and must each, individually
and freely chose to answer or not.

And unlike you, I don't deny The Holy Spirit of Truth, by denying that God
meant what He said, as you and all the world's 'accepted' religions do,
by trying to cram ALL THE HISTORY of ALL THE WORLD, ALL THE EARTH,
and ALL PEOPLES that GOD DESCRIBED FROM THE BEGINNING, into a few
thousand years, of a few groups of people, in a young corner of the globe.

Unlike all of you, I'm not invested in selling any belief, but simply in living
by my faith in the faithfulness of The Creator God, and part of that is freely
sharing the long hidden things God keeps revealing as he promised.

Thing being revealed, that make clear sense of what your 'experts' couldn't
even begin to 'interpret' 1000, 100, 50 or even 5 years ago, like that there
was only one land mass, that long after Noah started dividing, and that there
was life on earth before oxygen formed, and the 'prince of the air', death
began his rule, AS GOD DESCRIBED.

Anyway, for anyone who does care, context needs time and place,
just as understanding time and place, needs context, so maybe
starting with some contextually different meanings of that word:
TIME
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=time&t=KJV
time 3117
time 4150
time 6256
time 8145
time 6471
time 227

then maybe working through the different meanings of the 'same' numbers,
and so on, through all Holy Scripture, you'll come to understand why the
'out of Egypt' lie, is so important to 'them', that it's the one thing 'they'
all agree to agree on, and demand the world accepts.

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Post  mugglez Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:27 am

He remembers His covenant forever,
The word He commanded
to a thousand generations,
The covenant He made with Abraham,
And the oath He swore to Isaac,
And confirmed it to Jacob as a decree,
To Israel for an everlasting covenant,
Saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan,
as your allotted inheritance.” *

-Psalm 105:8-11

God chose a specific people - the Jews,
And gave them a specific land - Canaan.
This CHOICE and this TITLE DEED are ETERNAL.



Through the Jews, God gave to the world His written word - the Bible. Among other things, the Bible details the history of the Jewish people - past, present, and future. It clearly foretold each of the times they were to be uprooted from their land and then restored to it again:

1. The Egyptian bondage - followed by The Exodus under Moses and the conquest of Canaan.

2. The Assyrian & Babylonian captivities - followed by The Return under Ezra and Nehemiah.

3. The worldwide Dispersion/"Diaspora" - followed by The Restoration of recent decades.

Whether in their land or absent from it, their ultimate and permanent possession of it is guaranteed by The Word Of God. The reality of this most recent Restoration is abundantly evident everyday in our newspapers, TV, current events magazines, and other news media.



This website is, first and foremost, a BIBLICAL resource - with the goal of collecting and categorizing EVERYTHING in the Bible concerning The Chosen People and their connection to The Promised Land. It is firmly based on the belief that the Bible is, in fact, The Word of God - that God meant what He said, and said what He meant, and always knows what He's talking about. Rather than being a collection of Bible studies or commentary written about Israel and the Jews, this website simply brings together all available scriptures under each of the various topics and just allows the Bible to speak for itself. The Word of God is Powerful (Hebrews 4:12) and the entrance of God's Word gives Light and Understanding (Psalm 119:130). Men have many opinions about many things, but "let God be true and every man a liar" (Romans 3:4).

Most of the pages in this website are complete lists of scripture verses arranged under dozens of various topics related to The Chosen People, The Promised Land, The Borders of Israel, Jerusalem, and Israel's Friends and Foes. The Details area takes a closer look at everything the Bible says about each of the nations dispossessed from Canaan and each of the specific border locations of The Promised Land, including Maps and available geographic information. FAQ has a few Frequently Asked Questions about this website and it's contents. Odds & Ends includes various items - a Sitemap for this website, Scripture Lists of all the Bible verses used in this website, an extensive Historical Timeline, Interesting Facts about the modern nation of Israel, some relevant Quotes, and a few Photos. The Links page attempts to collect links to all of the BEST websites related to The Chosen People and The Promised Land.

It's been said that up to 1/3 of the whole Bible is prophetic, and that 2/3 of those prophecies have already been fulfilled - with 100% accuracy! The remaining 1/3 will also be fulfilled - just as accurately, and perhaps sooner than any of us realize. It's also been said that the single most common topic of prophecy in the entire Bible is the promised Restoration of the nation of Israel in these Last Days.

Israel is the
"Center of Gravity"
around which all of
Bible Prophecy revolves.

This website is a "Work in Progress" and has been updated many times since it's first appearance online. Work is still being done on filling in the blanks and adding flesh to the bones. A few of the newest pages are not yet complete, still being researched in the Bible and elsewhere. It's all nearing completion with the help and blessings of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Shalom
- in every sense of the word.


http://www.biblicalzionist.com/
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Post  mugglez Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:30 am

The Chosen People:

Regathered to The Land


http://www.biblicalzionist.com/Regathered.html


Dt 30:1-5
1 It shall happen, when all these things are come on you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you shall call them to mind among all the nations, where Yahweh your God has driven you,
2 and shall return to Yahweh your God, and shall obey his voice according to all that I command you this day, you and your children, with all your heart, and with all your soul;
3 that then Yahweh your God will turn your captivity, and have compassion on you, and will return and gather you from all the peoples, where Yahweh your God has scattered you.
4 If any of your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of the heavens, from there will Yahweh your God gather you, and from there he will bring you back:
5 and Yahweh your God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it; and he will do you good, and multiply you above your fathers.

Ezr 2:1
Now these are the children of the province, who went up out of the captivity of those who had been carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried away to Babylon, and who returned to Jerusalem and Judah, everyone to his city;

Neh 1:8,9
8 Remember, I beg you, the word that you commanded your servant Moses, saying, If you trespass, I will scatter you abroad among the peoples:
9 but if you return to me, and keep my commandments and do them, though your outcasts were in the uttermost part of the heavens, yet will I gather them from there, and will bring them to the place that I have chosen, to cause my name to dwell there.

Ps 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When God brings back his people from captivity,
then Jacob shall rejoice,
and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 106:47
Save us, Yahweh, our God,
gather us from among the nations,
to give thanks to your holy name,
to triumph in your praise!

Ps 107:2-7
2 Let the redeemed by Yahweh say so,
whom he has redeemed from the hand of the adversary,
3 And gathered out of the lands,
from the east and from the west,
from the north and from the south.
4 They wandered in the wilderness in a desert way.
They found no city to live in.
5 Hungry and thirsty,
their soul fainted in them.
6 Then they cried to Yahweh in their trouble,
and he delivered them out of their distresses,
7 he led them also by a straight way,
that they might go to a city to live in.

Ps 126:1-4
1 When Yahweh brought back those who returned to Zion,
we were like those who dream.
2 Then our mouth was filled with laughter,
and our tongue with singing.
Then they said among the nations,
“Yahweh has done great things for them.”
3 Yahweh has done great things for us,
and we are glad.
4 Restore our fortunes again, Yahweh,
like the streams in the Negev.

Ps 147:2
Yahweh builds up Jerusalem.
He gathers together the outcasts of Israel.

Is 11:11,12,16
11 It will happen in that day that the Lord will set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 He will set up a banner for the nations, and will assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
16 There will be a highway for the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, like there was for Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

Is 14:1,2
1 For Yahweh will have compassion on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land. The foreigner will join himself with them, and they will unite with the house of Jacob.
2 The peoples will take them, and bring them to their place. The house of Israel will possess them in Yahweh’s land for servants and for handmaids. They will take as captives those whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

Is 27:6,12,13
6 In days to come, Jacob will take root. Israel will blossom and bud. They will fill the surface of the world with fruit.
12 It will happen in that day, that Yahweh will thresh from the flowing stream of the Euphrates to the brook of Egypt; and you will be gathered one by one, children of Israel.
13 It will happen in that day that a great trumpet will be blown; and those who were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and those who were outcasts in the land of Egypt, shall come; and they will worship Yahweh in the holy mountain at Jerusalem.

Is 35:10
The Yahweh’s ransomed ones will return,
and come with singing to Zion;
and everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
and sorrow and sighing will flee away.”

Is 41:8,9
8 “But you, Israel, my servant,
Jacob whom I have chosen,
the seed of Abraham my friend,
9 You whom I have taken hold of from the ends of the earth,
and called from its corners,
and said to you, ‘You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you away;’

Is 43:5,6
5 Don’t be afraid; for I am with you.
I will bring your seed from the east,
and gather you from the west.
6 I will tell the north, ‘Give them up!’
and tell the south, ‘Don’t hold them back!
Bring my sons from far,
and my daughters from the ends of the earth—

Is 49:11-13,18,22
11 I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.
12 Behold, these shall come from far; and behold, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.
13 Sing, heavens; and be joyful, earth; and break forth into singing, mountains: for Yahweh has comforted his people, and will have compassion on his afflicted.
18 Lift up your eyes all around, and see: all these gather themselves together, and come to you. As I live, says Yahweh, you shall surely clothe you with them all as with an ornament, and gird yourself with them, like a bride.
22 Thus says the Lord Yahweh, Behold, I will lift up my hand to the nations, and set up my banner to the peoples; and they shall bring your sons in their bosom, and your daughters shall be carried on their shoulders.

Is 51:11
The ransomed of Yahweh shall return, and come with singing to Zion; and everlasting joy shall be on their heads: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

Is 54:7
For a small moment have I forsaken you; but with great mercies will I gather you.

Is 56:8
The Lord Yahweh, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, Yet will I gather others to him, besides his own who are gathered.

Is 60:4,8,9
4 Lift up your eyes all around, and see: they all gather themselves together, they come to you; your sons shall come from far, and your daughters shall be carried in the arms.
8 Who are these who fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
9 Surely the islands shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring your sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, for the name of Yahweh your God, and for the Holy One of Israel, because he has glorified you.

Is 66:20
They shall bring all your brothers out of all the nations for an offering to Yahweh, on horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and on mules, and on dromedaries, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says Yahweh, as the children of Israel bring their offering in a clean vessel into the house of Yahweh.

Jr 3:14
Return, backsliding children, says Yahweh; for I am a husband to you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Jr 16:14-16
14 Therefore, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that it shall no more be said, As Yahweh lives, who brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
15 but, As Yahweh lives, who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the countries where he had driven them. I will bring them again into their land that I gave to their fathers.
16 Behold, I will send for many fishermen, says Yahweh, and they shall fish them up; and afterward I will send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the clefts of the rocks.

Jr 23:3,7,8
3 I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and multiply.
7 Therefore, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that they shall no more say, As Yahweh lives, who brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 but, As Yahweh lives, who brought up and who led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all the countries where I had driven them. They shall dwell in their own land.

Jr 24:6
For I will set my eyes on them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.

Jr 29:10,14
10 For thus says Yahweh, After seventy years are accomplished for Babylon, I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
14 I will be found by you, says Yahweh, and I will turn again your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places where I have driven you, says Yahweh; and I will bring you again to the place from where I caused you to be carried away captive.

Jr 30:3,10,18
3 For, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will turn again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, says Yahweh; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
10 Therefore don’t you be afraid, O Jacob my servant, says Yahweh; neither be dismayed, Israel: for, behold, I will save you from afar, and your seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be quiet and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.
18 Thus says Yahweh: Behold, I will turn again the captivity of Jacob’s tents, and have compassion on his dwelling places; and the city shall be built on its own hill, and the palace shall be inhabited after its own manner.

Jr 31:8-12,16,17,21,23
8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the uttermost parts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her who travails with child together: a great company shall they return here.
9 They shall come with weeping; and with petitions will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by rivers of waters, in a straight way in which they shall not stumble; for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
10 Hear the word of Yahweh, you nations, and declare it in the islands afar off; and say, He who scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as shepherd does his flock.
11 For Yahweh has ransomed Jacob, and redeemed him from the hand of him who was stronger than he.
12 They shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow to the goodness of Yahweh, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.
16 Thus says Yahweh: Refrain your voice from weeping, and your eyes from tears; for your work shall be rewarded, says Yahweh; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
17 There is hope for your latter end, says Yahweh; and your children shall come again to their own border.
21 Set up road signs, make guideposts; set your heart toward the highway, even the way by which you went: turn again, virgin of Israel, turn again to these your cities.
23 Thus says Yahweh of Armies, the God of Israel, Yet again shall they use this speech in the land of Judah and in its cities, when I shall bring again their captivity: Yahweh bless you, habitation of righteousness, mountain of holiness.

Jr 32:37,41,42
37 Behold, I will gather them out of all the countries, where I have driven them in my anger, and in my wrath, and in great indignation; and I will bring them again to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:
41 Yes, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul.
42 For thus says Yahweh: Like as I have brought all this great evil on this people, so will I bring on them all the good that I have promised them.

Jr 33:7,10-13
7 I will cause the captivity of Judah and the captivity of Israel to return, and will build them, as at the first.
10 Thus says Yahweh: Yet again there shall be heard in this place, about which you say, It is waste, without man and without animal, even in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, that are desolate, without man and without inhabitant and without animal,
11 the voice of joy and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, the voice of those who say, Give thanks to Yahweh of Armies, for Yahweh is good, for his loving kindness endures forever; and of them who bring sacrifices of thanksgiving into the house of Yahweh. For I will cause the captivity of the land to return as at the first, says Yahweh.
12 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: Yet again shall there be in this place, which is waste, without man and without animal, and in all its cities, a habitation of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down.
13 In the cities of the hill country, in the cities of the lowland, and in the cities of the South, and in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, shall the flocks again pass under the hands of him who numbers them, says Yahweh.
14 Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will perform that good word which I have spoken concerning the house of Israel and concerning the house of Judah.

Jr 43:5
But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah, who were returned from all the nations where they had been driven, to sojourn in the land of Judah;

Jr 46:27
27 But don’t be afraid you, Jacob my servant, neither be dismayed, Israel: for, behold, I will save you from afar, and your seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be quiet and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.

Jr 50:4,5,19
4 In those days, and in that time, says Yahweh, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together; they shall go on their way weeping, and shall seek Yahweh their God.
5 They shall inquire concerning Zion with their faces turned toward it, saying, Come you, and join yourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant that shall not be forgotten.
19 I will bring Israel again to his pasture, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied on the hills of Ephraim and in Gilead.

Ezk 11:17,18
17 Therefore say, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: I will gather you from the peoples, and assemble you out of the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.
18 They shall come there, and they shall take away all the detestable things of it and all its abominations from there.

Ezk 16:53,55
53 I will turn again their captivity, the captivity of Sodom and her daughters, and the captivity of Samaria and her daughters, and the captivity of your captives in the midst of them;
55 Your sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate; and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate; and you and your daughters shall return to your former estate.

Ezk 20:34,35,40-42
34 and I will bring you out from the peoples, and will gather you out of the countries in which you are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out;
35 and I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there will I enter into judgment with you face to face.
40 For in my holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, says the Lord Yahweh, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them, serve me in the land: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the first fruits of your offerings, with all your holy things.
41 As a pleasant aroma will I accept you, when I bring you out from the peoples, and gather you out of the countries in which you have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you in the sight of the nations.
42 You shall know that I am Yahweh, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country which I swore to give to your fathers.

Ezk 28:25
Thus says the Lord Yahweh: When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the nations, then shall they dwell in their own land which I gave to my servant Jacob.

Ezk 34:11-16
11 For thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I myself, even I, will search for my sheep, and will seek them out.
12 As a shepherd seeks out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered abroad, so will I seek out my sheep; and I will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
13 I will bring them out from the peoples, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them into their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the watercourses, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
14 I will feed them with good pasture; and on the mountains of the height of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie down in a good fold; and on fat pasture shall they feed on the mountains of Israel.
15 I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep, and I will cause them to lie down, says the Lord Yahweh.
16 I will seek that which was lost, and will bring back that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but the fat and the strong I will destroy; I will feed them in justice.

Ezk 36:8-12,24,28
8 But you, mountains of Israel, you shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people Israel; for they are at hand to come.
9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn into you, and you shall be tilled and sown;
10 and I will multiply men on you, all the house of Israel, even all of it; and the cities shall be inhabited, and the waste places shall be built;
11 and I will multiply on you man and animal; and they shall increase and be fruitful; and I will cause you to be inhabited after your former estate, and will do better to you than at your beginnings: and you shall know that I am Yahweh.
12 Yes, I will cause men to walk on you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess you, and you shall be their inheritance, and you shall no more henceforth bereave them of children.
24 For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.
28 You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Ezk 37:1-28 Note: This very important chapter on the Regathering of the Jews is being presented in its entirety.
1 The hand of Yahweh was on me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of Yahweh, and set me down in the midst of the valley; and it was full of bones.
2 He caused me to pass by them all around: and behold, there were very many in the open valley; and behold, they were very dry.
3 He said to me, Son of man, can these bones live? I answered, Lord Yahweh, you know.
4 Again he said to me, Prophesy over these bones, and tell them, you dry bones, hear the word of Yahweh.
5 Thus says the Lord Yahweh to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.
6 I will lay sinews on you, and will bring up flesh on you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am Yahweh.
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, an earthquake; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
8 I saw, and, behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh came up, and skin covered them above; but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he to me, Prophesy to the wind, prophesy, son of man, and tell the wind, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Come from the four winds, breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
11 Then he said to me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.
12 Therefore prophesy, and tell them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, my people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.
13 You shall know that I am Yahweh, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, my people.
14 I will put my Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and you shall know that I, Yahweh, have spoken it and performed it, says Yahweh.
15 The word of Yahweh came again to me, saying,
16 You, son of man, take one stick, and write on it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write on it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 and join them for you one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand.
18 When the children of your people shall speak to you, saying, Will you not show us what you mean by these?
19 tell them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his companions; and I will put them with it, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in my hand.
20 The sticks whereon you write shall be in your hand before their eyes.
21 Say to them, Thus says the Lord Yahweh: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, where they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all;
23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 My servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 They shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, in which your fathers lived; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, forever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore.
27 My tent also shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 The nations shall know that I am Yahweh who sanctifies Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them forevermore.

Ezk 38:8,12
8 After many days you shall be visited: in the latter years you shall come into the land that is brought back from the sword, that is gathered out of many peoples, on the mountains of Israel, which have been a continual waste; but it is brought forth out of the peoples, and they shall dwell securely, all of them.
12 to take the spoil and to take the prey; to turn your hand against the waste places that are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered out of the nations, who have gotten livestock and goods, who dwell in the middle of the earth.

Ezk 39:25,27,28
25 Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh: Now will I bring back the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for my holy name.
27 when I have brought them back from the peoples, and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations.
28 They shall know that I am Yahweh their God, in that I caused them to go into captivity among the nations, and have gathered them to their own land; and I will leave none of them any more there;

Hs 1:11
The children of Judah and the children of Israel will be gathered together, and they will appoint themselves one head, and will go up from the land; for great will be the day of Jezreel.

Hs 8:10
But although they sold themselves among the nations,
I will now gather them;
and they begin to waste away because of the oppression of the king of mighty ones.

Hs 11:10,11
10 They will walk after Yahweh,
who will roar like a lion;
for he will roar, and the children will come trembling from the west.
11 They will come trembling like a bird out of Egypt,
and like a dove out of the land of Assyria;
and I will settle them in their houses,” says Yahweh.

Am 9:14,15
14 I will bring my people Israel back from captivity,
and they will rebuild the ruined cities, and inhabit them;
and they will plant vineyards, and drink wine from them.
They shall also make gardens,
and eat the fruit of them.
15 I will plant them on their land,
and they will no more be plucked up out of their land which I have given them,”
says Yahweh your God.

Mc 2:12
I will surely assemble, Jacob, all of you;
I will surely gather the remnant of Israel;
I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah,
as a flock in the midst of their pasture;
they will swarm with people.

Mc 4:6,7
6 “In that day,” says Yahweh,
“I will assemble that which is lame,
and I will gather that which is driven away,
and that which I have afflicted;
7 and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”

Zp 2:7
The coast will be for the remnant of the house of Judah. They will find pasture. In the houses of Ashkelon, they will lie down in the evening, for Yahweh, their God, will visit them, and restore them.

Zp 3:19,20
19 Behold, at that time I will deal with all those who afflict you, and I will save those who are lame, and gather those who were driven away. I will give them praise and honor, whose shame has been in all the earth.
20 At that time will I bring you in, and at that time will I gather you; for I will give you honor and praise among all the peoples of the earth, when I bring back your captivity before your eyes, says Yahweh.

Zc 8:7,8
7 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country;
8 and I will bring them, and they will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem; and they will be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness.”

Zc 10:6,8-10
6 “I will strengthen the house of Judah,
and I will save the house of Joseph,
and I will bring them back;
for I have mercy on them;
and they will be as though I had not cast them off:
for I am Yahweh their God, and I will hear them.
8 I will signal for them, and gather them;
for I have redeemed them;
and they will increase as they have increased.
9 I will sow them among the peoples;
and they will remember me in far countries;
and they will live with their children, and will return.
10 I will bring them again also out of the land of Egypt,
and gather them out of Assyria;
and I will bring them into the land of Gilead and Lebanon;
and there won’t be room enough for them.
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Post  mugglez Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:31 am

Jerusalem:

God Chose Jerusalem



http://www.biblicalzionist.com/ChoseZion.html

Dt 12:5,11,14,18,21,26
5 But to the place which Yahweh your God shall choose out of all your tribes, to put his name there, even to his habitation you shall seek, and there you shall come;
11 then it shall happen that to the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there, there you shall bring all that I command you: your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the wave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which you vow to Yahweh.
14 but in the place which Yahweh shall choose in one of your tribes, there you shall offer your burnt offerings, and there you shall do all that I command you.
18 but you shall eat them before Yahweh your God in the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, you, and your son, and your daughter, and your male servant, and your female servant, and the Levite who is within your gates: and you shall rejoice before Yahweh your God in all that you put your hand to.
21 If the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, to put his name there, is too far from you, then you shall kill of your herd and of your flock, which Yahweh has given you, as I have commanded you; and you may eat within your gates, after all the desire of your soul.
26 Only your holy things which you have, and your vows, you shall take, and go to the place which Yahweh shall choose:

Dt 14:23-25
23 You shall eat before Yahweh your God, in the place which he shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there, the tithe of your grain, of your new wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and of your flock; that you may learn to fear Yahweh your God always.
24 If the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry it, because the place is too far from you, which Yahweh your God shall choose, to set his name there, when Yahweh your God shall bless you;
25 then you shall turn it into money, and bind up the money in your hand, and shall go to the place which Yahweh your God shall choose:

Dt 15:20
You shall eat it before Yahweh your God year by year in the place which Yahweh shall choose, you and your household.

Dt 16:2,6,7,11,15,16
2 You shall sacrifice the Passover to Yahweh your God, of the flock and the herd, in the place which Yahweh shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there.
6 but at the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, to cause his name to dwell in, there you shall sacrifice the Passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that you came forth out of Egypt.
7 You shall roast and eat it in the place which Yahweh your God shall choose: and you shall turn in the morning, and go to your tents.
11 and you shall rejoice before Yahweh your God, you, and your son, and your daughter, and your male servant, and your female servant, and the Levite who is within your gates, and the foreigner, and the fatherless, and the widow, who are in the midst of you, in the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there.
15 You shall keep a feast to Yahweh your God seven days in the place which Yahweh shall choose; because Yahweh your God will bless you in all your increase, and in all the work of your hands, and you shall be altogether joyful.
16 Three times in a year shall all your males appear before Yahweh your God in the place which he shall choose: in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tents; and they shall not appear before Yahweh empty:

Dt 17 :8,10
8 If there arise a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within your gates; then you shall arise, and go up to the place which Yahweh your God shall choose;
10 You shall do according to the tenor of the sentence which they shall show you from that place which Yahweh shall choose; and you shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you:

Dt 18:6
If a Levite comes from any of your gates out of all Israel, where he lives as a foreigner, and comes with all the desire of his soul to the place which Yahweh shall choose;

Dt 23:16
he shall dwell with you, in the midst of you, in the place which he shall choose within one of your gates, where it pleases him best: you shall not oppress him.

Dt 26:2
that you shall take of the first of all the fruit of the ground, which you shall bring in from your land that Yahweh your God gives you; and you shall put it in a basket, and shall go to the place which Yahweh your God shall choose, to cause his name to dwell there.

Dt 31:11
when all Israel is come to appear before Yahweh your God in the place which he shall choose, you shall read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

1Kg 8:44,48
44 If your people go out to battle against their enemy, by whatever way you shall send them, and they pray to Yahweh toward the city which you have chosen, and toward the house which I have built for your name;
48 if they return to you with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies, who carried them captive, and pray to you toward their land, which you gave to their fathers, the city which you have chosen, and the house which I have built for your name:

1Kg 11:13,32,36
13 However I will not tear away all the kingdom; but I will give one tribe to your son, for David my servant’s sake, and for Jerusalem’s sake which I have chosen.
32 (but he shall have one tribe, for my servant David’s sake and for Jerusalem’s sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel);
36 To his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a lamp always before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.

1Kg 14:21
Rehoboam the son of Solomon reigned in Judah. Rehoboam was forty-one years old when he began to reign, and he reigned seventeen years in Jerusalem, the city which Yahweh had chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, to put his name there: and his mother’s name was Naamah the Ammonitess.

2Kg 21:7
He set the engraved image of Asherah, that he had made, in the house of which Yahweh said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name forever;

2Kg 23:27
Yahweh said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and I will cast off this city which I have chosen, even Jerusalem, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there.

2Ch 6:6,34,38
6 but I have chosen Jerusalem, that my name might be there; and have chosen David to be over my people Israel.
34 If your people go out to battle against their enemies, by whatever way you shall send them, and they pray to you toward this city which you have chosen, and the house which I have built for your name;
38 if they return to you with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their captivity, where they have carried them captive, and pray toward their land, which you gave to their fathers, and the city which you have chosen, and toward the house which I have built for your name:

2Ch 12:13
So king Rehoboam strengthened himself in Jerusalem, and reigned: for Rehoboam was forty-one years old when he began to reign, and he reigned seventeen years in Jerusalem, the city which Yahweh had chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, to put his name there: and his mother’s name was Naamah the Ammonitess.

2Ch 33:7
He set the engraved image of the idol, which he had made, in the house of God, of which God said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name forever:

Neh 1:9
but if you return to me, and keep my commandments and do them, though your outcasts were in the uttermost part of the heavens, yet will I gather them from there, and will bring them to the place that I have chosen, to cause my name to dwell there.

Ps 132:13
For Yahweh has chosen Zion.
He has desired it for his habitation.

Zc 1:17
“Proclaim further, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “My cities will again overflow with prosperity, and Yahweh will again comfort Zion, and will again choose Jerusalem.”’”

Zc 2:12
Yahweh will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem.

Zc 3:2
Yahweh said to Satan, “Yahweh rebuke you, Satan! Yes, Yahweh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Isn’t this a burning stick plucked out of the fire?”
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Post  mugglez Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:33 am

Jerusalem:

Jerusalem Called "Zion"

http://www.biblicalzionist.com/calledzion.html

2Sm 5:7
Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

1Kg 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to king Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

2Kg 19:21,31
21 This is the word that Yahweh has spoken concerning him: The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you; the daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
31 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion those who shall escape: the zeal of Yahweh shall perform this.

1Ch 11:5
The inhabitants of Jebus said to David, You shall not come in here. Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

2Ch 5:2
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

Ps 2:6
“Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Zion.”

Ps 9:11,14
11 Sing praises to Yahweh, who dwells in Zion,
and declare among the people what he has done.
14 that I may show forth all your praise.
In the gates of the daughter of Zion, I will rejoice in your salvation.

Ps 14:7
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When Yahweh restores the fortunes of his people,
then Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 20:2
send you help from the sanctuary,
grant you support from Zion,

Ps 48:2,11,12
2 Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth,
is Mount Zion, on the north sides,
the city of the great King.
11 Let Mount Zion be glad!
Let the daughters of Judah rejoice,
Because of your judgments.
12 Walk about Zion, and go around her.
Number its towers.

Ps 50:2
Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God shines forth.

Ps 51:18
Do well in your good pleasure to Zion.
Build the walls of Jerusalem.

Ps 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When God brings back his people from captivity,
then Jacob shall rejoice,
and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 69:35
For God will save Zion, and build the cities of Judah.
They shall settle there, and own it.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 76:2
His tabernacle is also in Salem;
His dwelling place in Zion.

Ps 78:68
But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which he loved.

Ps 84:7
They go from strength to strength.
Everyone of them appears before God in Zion.

Ps 87:2,5
2 Yahweh loves the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
5 Yes, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one was born in her;”
the Most High himself will establish her.

Ps 97:8
Zion heard and was glad.
The daughters of Judah rejoiced,
because of your judgments, Yahweh.

Ps 99:2
Yahweh is great in Zion.
He is high above all the peoples.

Ps 102:13,16,21
13 You will arise and have mercy on Zion;
for it is time to have pity on her.
Yes, the set time has come.
16 For Yahweh has built up Zion.
He has appeared in his glory.
21 that men may declare the name of Yahweh in Zion,
and his praise in Jerusalem;

Ps 110:2
Yahweh will send forth the rod of your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of your enemies.

Ps 125:1
Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion,
which can’t be moved, but remains forever.

Ps 126:1
When Yahweh brought back those who returned to Zion,
we were like those who dream.

Ps 128:5
May Yahweh bless you out of Zion,
and may you see the good of Jerusalem all the days of your life.

Ps 129:5
Let them be disappointed and turned backward,
all those who hate Zion.

Ps 132:13
For Yahweh has chosen Zion.
He has desired it for his habitation.

Ps 133:3
like the dew of Hermon,
that comes down on the hills of Zion:
for there Yahweh gives the blessing,
even life forevermore.

Ps 134:3
May Yahweh bless you from Zion;
even he who made heaven and earth.

Ps 135:21
Blessed be Yahweh from Zion,
Who dwells at Jerusalem.
Praise Yah!

Ps 137:1,3
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down.
Yes, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
3 For there, those who led us captive asked us for songs.
Those who tormented us demanded songs of joy:
“Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”

Ps 146:10
Yahweh will reign forever;
your God, O Zion, to all generations.
Praise Yah!

Ps 147:12
Praise Yahweh, Jerusalem!
Praise your God, Zion!

Ps 149:2
Let Israel rejoice in him who made them.
Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

SS 3:11
Go forth, you daughters of Zion, and see king Solomon,
with the crown with which his mother has crowned him,
in the day of his weddings,
in the day of the gladness of his heart.

Is 1:8,27
8 The daughter of Zion is left like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a besieged city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with justice,
and her converts with righteousness.

Is 2:3
Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

Is 3:16,17
16 Moreover Yahweh said, “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty,
and walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes,
walking to trip as they go,
jingling ornaments on their feet;
17 therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion,
and Yahweh will make their scalps bald.”

Is 4:3-5
3 It will happen, that he who is left in Zion, and he who remains in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even everyone who is written among the living in Jerusalem;
4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from its midst, by the spirit of justice, and by the spirit of burning.
5 Yahweh will create over the whole habitation of Mount Zion, and over her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for over all the glory will be a canopy.

Is 8:18
Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Armies, who dwells in Mount Zion.

Is 10:12,24,32
12 Therefore it will happen that, when the Lord has performed his whole work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the willful proud heart of the king of Assyria, and the insolence of his haughty looks.
24 Therefore the Lord, Yahweh of Armies, says “My people who dwell in Zion, don’t be afraid of the Assyrian, though he strike you with the rod, and lift up his staff against you, as Egypt did.
32 This very day he will halt at Nob. He shakes his hand at the mountain of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

Is 12:6
Cry aloud and shout, you inhabitant of Zion; for the Holy One of Israel is great in the midst of you!”

Is 14:32
What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That Yahweh has founded Zion, and in her the afflicted of his people will take refuge.

Is 16:1
Send the lambs for the ruler of the land from Selah to the wilderness, to the mountain of the daughter of Zion.

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 24:23
Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed; for Yahweh of Armies will reign on Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem; and before his elders will be glory.

Is 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh, “Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. He who believes shall not act hastily.

Is 29:8
It will be like when a hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats; but he awakes, and his hunger isn’t satisfied; or like when a thirsty man dreams, and behold, he drinks; but he awakes, and behold, he is faint, and he is still thirsty. The multitude of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion will be like that.

Is 30:19
For the people will dwell in Zion at Jerusalem. You will weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the voice of your cry. When he hears you, he will answer you.

Is 31:4,9
4 For thus says Yahweh to me,
“As the lion and the young lion growling over his prey,
if a multitude of shepherds is called together against him,
will not be dismayed at their voice,
nor abase himself for the noise of them,
so Yahweh of Armies will come down to fight on Mount Zion and on its heights.
9 His rock will pass away by reason of terror,
and his princes will be afraid of the banner,”
says Yahweh, whose fire is in Zion,
and his furnace in Jerusalem.

Is 33:5,14,20
5 Yahweh is exalted, for he dwells on high.
He has filled Zion with justice and righteousness.
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid.
Trembling has seized the godless ones.
Who among us can live with the devouring fire?
Who among us can live with everlasting burning?
20 Look at Zion, the city of our appointed festivals.
Your eyes will see Jerusalem, a quiet habitation,
a tent that won’t be removed.
Its stakes will never be plucked up,
nor will any of its cords be broken.

Is 34:8
For Yahweh has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Is 35:10
The Yahweh’s ransomed ones will return,
and come with singing to Zion;
and everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
and sorrow and sighing will flee away.”

Is 37:22,32
22 this is the word which Yahweh has spoken concerning him. The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you. The daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
32 For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and survivors will escape from Mount Zion. The zeal of Yahweh of Armies will perform this.’

Is 40:9
You who tell good news to Zion, go up on a high mountain.
You who tell good news to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with strength.
Lift it up. Don’t be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah, “Behold, your God!”

Is 41:27
I am the first to say to Zion, ‘Behold, look at them;’
and I will give one who brings good news to Jerusalem.

Is 46:13
I bring near my righteousness, it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not wait; and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Is 49:14
But Zion said, Yahweh has forsaken me, and the Lord has forgotten me.

Is 51:3,11,16
3 For Yahweh has comforted Zion; he has comforted all her waste places, and has made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Yahweh; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
11 The ransomed of Yahweh shall return, and come with singing to Zion; and everlasting joy shall be on their heads: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
16 I have put my words in your mouth, and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and tell Zion, You are my people.

Is 52:1,2,7,8
1 Awake, awake, put on your strength, Zion; put on your beautiful garments, Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake yourself from the dust; arise, sit on your throne, Jerusalem: loose yourself from the bonds of your neck, captive daughter of Zion.
7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of good, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, Your God reigns!
8 The voice of your watchmen! they lift up the voice, together do they sing; for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahweh returns to Zion.

Is 59:20
A Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from disobedience in Jacob, says Yahweh.

Is 60:14
The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 61:3
to appoint to those who mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Yahweh, that he may be glorified.

Is 62:1,11
1 For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until her righteousness go forth as brightness, and her salvation as a lamp that burns.
11 Behold, Yahweh has proclaimed to the end of the earth, Say you to the daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation comes; behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him.

Is 64:10
Your holy cities are become a wilderness, Zion is become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Is 66:8
Who has heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Jr 3:14
Return, backsliding children, says Yahweh; for I am a husband to you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Jr 4:6,31
6 Set up a standard toward Zion: flee for safety, don’t stay; for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, the anguish as of her who brings forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, who gasps for breath, who spreads her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul faints before the murderers.

Jr 6:2,23
2 The comely and delicate one, the daughter of Zion, will I cut off.
23 They lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy; their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, everyone set in array, as a man to the battle, against you, daughter of Zion.

Jr 8:19
Behold, the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people from a land that is very far off: isn’t Yahweh in Zion? Isn’t her King in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their engraved images, and with foreign vanities?

Jr 9:19
For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we ruined! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because they have cast down our dwellings.

Jr 14:19
Have you utterly rejected Judah? has your soul loathed Zion? why have you struck us, and there is no healing for us? We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of healing, and behold, dismay!

Jr 26:18
Micah the Morashtite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah; and he spoke to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus says Yahweh of Armies: Zion shall be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.

Jr 30:17
For I will restore health to you, and I will heal you of your wounds, says Yahweh; because they have called you an outcast, saying, It is Zion, whom no man seeks after.

Jr 31:6,12
6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen on the hills of Ephraim shall cry, Arise you, and let us go up to Zion to Yahweh our God.
12 They shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow to the goodness of Yahweh, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

Jr 50:5,28
5 They shall inquire concerning Zion with their faces turned toward it, saying, Come you, and join yourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant that shall not be forgotten.
28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our God, the vengeance of his temple.

Jr 51:10,24,35
10 Yahweh has brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of Yahweh our God.
24 I will render to Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, says Yahweh.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be on Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and, My blood be on the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.

Lm 1:4,6,17
4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn assembly;
all her gates are desolate, her priests do sigh:
her virgins are afflicted, and she herself is in bitterness.
6 From the daughter of Zion all her majesty is departed:
her princes are become like harts that find no pasture,
they are gone without strength before the pursuer.
17 Zion spreads forth her hands; there is none to comfort her;
Yahweh has commanded concerning Jacob, that those who are around him should be his adversaries:
Jerusalem is among them as an unclean thing.

Lm 2:1,4,6,8,10,13,18
1 How has the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger!
He has cast down from heaven to the earth the beauty of Israel,
And hasn’t remembered his footstool in the day of his anger.
4 He has bent his bow like an enemy, he has stood with his right hand as an adversary,
Has killed all that were pleasant to the eye:
In the tent of the daughter of Zion he has poured out his wrath like fire.
6 He has violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden; he has destroyed his place of assembly:
Yahweh has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion,
Has despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
8 Yahweh has purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion;
He has stretched out the line, he has not withdrawn his hand from destroying;
He has made the rampart and wall to lament; they languish together.
10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit on the ground, they keep silence;
They have cast up dust on their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth:
The virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
13 What shall I testify to you? what shall I liken to you, daughter of Jerusalem?
What shall I compare to you, that I may comfort you, virgin daughter of Zion?
For your breach is great like the sea: who can heal you?
18 Their heart cried to the Lord:
wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night;
Give yourself no respite; don’t let the apple of your eye cease.

Lm 4:2,11,22
2 The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold,
How are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!
11 Yahweh has accomplished his wrath, he has poured out his fierce anger;
He has kindled a fire in Zion, which has devoured its foundations.
22 The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, daughter of Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity:
He will visit your iniquity, daughter of Edom; he will uncover your sins.

Lm 5:11,18
11 They ravished the women in Zion,
The virgins in the cities of Judah.
18 For the mountain of Zion, which is desolate:
The foxes walk on it.

Jl 2:1,15,23,32
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of Yahweh comes,
for it is close at hand:
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion!
Sanctify a fast.
Call a solemn assembly.
23 “Be glad then, you children of Zion,
and rejoice in Yahweh, your God;
for he gives you the former rain in just measure,
and he causes the rain to come down for you,
the former rain and the latter rain,
as before.
32 It will happen that whoever will call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved;
for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,
as Yahweh has said,
and among the remnant, those whom Yahweh calls.

Jl 3:16,17,21
16 Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and thunder from Jerusalem;
and the heavens and the earth will shake;
but Yahweh will be a refuge to his people,
and a stronghold to the children of Israel.
17 “So you will know that I am Yahweh, your God,
dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem will be holy,
and no strangers will pass through her any more.
21 I will cleanse their blood,
that I have not cleansed:
for Yahweh dwells in Zion.”

Am 1:2
He said:
“Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and utter his voice from Jerusalem;
and the pastures of the shepherds will mourn,
and the top of Carmel will wither.”

Am 6:1
Woe to those who are at ease in Zion,
and to those who are secure on the mountain of Samaria,
the notable men of the chief of the nations,
to whom the house of Israel come!

Ob 1:17,21
17 But in Mount Zion, there will be those who escape, and it will be holy. The house of Jacob will possess their possessions.
21 Saviors will go up on Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau, and the kingdom will be Yahweh’s.

Mc 1:13
Harness the chariot to the swift steed, inhabitant of Lachish.
She was the beginning of sin to the daughter of Zion;
For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

Mc 3:10,12
10 They build up Zion with blood,
and Jerusalem with iniquity.
12 Therefore Zion for your sake will be plowed like a field,
and Jerusalem will become heaps of rubble,
and the mountain of the temple like the high places of a forest.

Mc 4:2,7,8,10,11,13
2 Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion will go forth the law,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem;
7 and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”
8 You, tower of the flock, the hill of the daughter of Zion,
to you it will come,
yes, the former dominion will come,
the kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem.
10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, daughter of Zion,
like a woman in travail;
for now you will go forth out of the city,
and will dwell in the field,
and will come even to Babylon.
There you will be rescued.
There Yahweh will redeem you from the hand of your enemies.
11 Now many nations have assembled against you, that say,
“Let her be defiled,
and let our eye gloat over Zion.”
13 Arise and thresh, daughter of Zion;
for I will make your horn iron,
and I will make your hoofs brass;
and you will beat in pieces many peoples:
and I will devote their gain to Yahweh,
and their substance to the Lord of the whole earth.

Zp 3:14,16
14 Sing, daughter of Zion! Shout, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all your heart, daughter of Jerusalem.
16 In that day, it will be said to Jerusalem, “Don’t be afraid, Zion. Don’t let your hands be slack.”

Zc 1:14,17
14 So the angel who talked with me said to me, “Proclaim, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
17 “Proclaim further, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “My cities will again overflow with prosperity, and Yahweh will again comfort Zion, and will again choose Jerusalem.”’”

Zc 2:7,10
7 ‘Come, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.’
10 Sing and rejoice, daughter of Zion; for, behold, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of you,’ says Yahweh.

Zc 8:2,3
2 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath.”
3 Thus says Yahweh: “I have returned to Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be called ‘The City of Truth;’ and the mountain of Yahweh of Armies, ‘The Holy Mountain.’”

Zc 9:9,13
9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion!
Shout, daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king comes to you!
He is righteous, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding on a donkey,
even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
13 For indeed I bend Judah as a bow for me.
I have filled the bow with Ephraim;
and I will stir up your sons, Zion,
against your sons, Greece,
and will make you like the sword of a mighty man.



Jerusalem:

The nations will come to Jerusalem



Is 2:2,3
2 It shall happen in the latter days, that the mountain of Yahweh’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains,
and shall be raised above the hills;
and all nations shall flow to it.
3 Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 60:3,5,10,11,14
3 Nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.
5 Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall thrill and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you.
10 Foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you: for in my wrath I struck you, but in my favor have I had mercy on you.
11 Your gates also shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, and their kings led captive.
14 The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 66:12,18
12 For thus says Yahweh, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the nations like an overflowing stream: and you shall suck of it; you shall be borne on the side, and shall be dandled on the knees.
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: the time comes, that I will gather all nations and languages; and they shall come, and shall see my glory.

Jr 3:17
At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of Yahweh; and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of Yahweh, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart.

Mc 4:2
Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Zc 8:22,23
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations will come to seek Yahweh of Armies in Jerusalem, and to entreat the favor of Yahweh.”
23 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “In those days, ten men will take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, they will take hold of the skirt of him who is a Jew, saying, ‘We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’”

Zc 14:16-19
16 It will happen that everyone who is left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, and to keep the feast of tents.
17 It will be, that whoever of all the families of the earth doesn’t go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt doesn’t go up, and doesn’t come, neither will it rain on them. This will be the plague with which Yahweh will strike the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.


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The Promised Land:

The Land is Eternal


http://www.biblicalzionist.com/LandEternal.html

Gn 13:15
for all the land which you see, I will give to you, and to your offspring forever.

Gn 17:8
I will give to you, and to your seed after you, the land where you are traveling, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession. I will be their God.”

Gn 48:4
and said to me, ‘Behold, I will make you fruitful, and multiply you, and I will make of you a company of peoples, and will give this land to your seed after you for an everlasting possession.’

Ex 32:13
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, your servants, to whom you swore by your own self, and said to them, ‘I will multiply your seed as the stars of the sky, and all this land that I have spoken of I will give to your seed, and they shall inherit it forever.’”

Lv 25:34
But the field of the suburbs of their cities may not be sold; for it is their perpetual possession.

Dt 4:40
You shall keep his statutes, and his commandments, which I command you this day, that it may go well with you, and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land, which Yahweh your God gives you, forever.

Jsh 14:9
Moses swore on that day, saying, Surely the land whereon your foot has trodden shall be an inheritance to you and to your children forever, because you have wholly followed Yahweh my God.

Jdg 2:1
The angel of Yahweh came up from Gilgal to Bochim. He said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you to the land which I swore to your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you:

1Ch 16:15-18
15 Remember his covenant forever,
the word which he commanded to a thousand generations,
16 the covenant which he made with Abraham,
his oath to Isaac.
17 He confirmed the same to Jacob for a statute,
and to Israel for an everlasting covenant,
18 saying, I will you give the land of Canaan,
The lot of your inheritance,

1Ch 28:8
Now therefore, in the sight of all Israel, the assembly of Yahweh, and in the audience of our God, observe and seek out all the commandments of Yahweh your God; that you may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children after you forever.

2Ch 20:7
Did not you, our God, drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel, and give it to the seed of Abraham your friend forever?

Ezr 9:12
now therefore don’t give your daughters to their sons, neither take their daughters to your sons, nor seek their peace or their prosperity forever; that you may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children forever.

Ps 105:8-11
8 He has remembered his covenant forever,
the word which he commanded to a thousand generations,
9 the covenant which he made with Abraham,
his oath to Isaac,
10 and confirmed the same to Jacob for a statute;
to Israel for an everlasting covenant,
11 saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan,
the lot of your inheritance;”

Ps 125:1
Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion,
which can’t be moved, but remains forever.

Is 60:21
Your people also shall be all righteous; they shall inherit the land forever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Jr 31:40
The whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields to the brook Kidron, to the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy to Yahweh; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more forever.

Ezk 37:25
They shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, in which your fathers lived; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, forever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.

Jl 3:20
But Judah will be inhabited forever,
and Jerusalem from generation to generation.

Am 9:15
I will plant them on their land,
and they will no more be plucked up out of their land which I have given them,”
says Yahweh your God.

Mc 4:7
and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”


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The Chosen People:

Israel is God's Inheritance


Ex 34:9
He said, “If now I have found favor in your sight, Lord, please let the Lord go in the midst of us; although this is a stiff-necked people; pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for your inheritance.”

Dt 4:20
But Yahweh has taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, out of Egypt, to be to him a people of inheritance, as at this day.

Dt 9:26,29
26 I prayed to Yahweh, and said, Lord Yahweh, don’t destroy your people and your inheritance, that you have redeemed through your greatness, that you have brought forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand.
29 Yet they are your people and your inheritance, which you brought out by your great power and by your outstretched arm.

1Sm 10:1
Then Samuel took the vial of oil, and poured it on his head, and kissed him, and said, Isn’t it that Yahweh has anointed you to be prince over his inheritance?

1Sm 26:19
Now therefore, please let my lord the king hear the words of his servant. If it be Yahweh that has stirred you up against me, let him accept an offering: but if it be the children of men, cursed be they before Yahweh: for they have driven me out this day that I shouldn’t cling to Yahweh’s inheritance, saying, Go, serve other gods.

2Sm 14:16
For the king will hear, to deliver his servant out of the hand of the man who would destroy me and my son together out of the inheritance of God.

2Sm 20:19
I am of those who are peaceable and faithful in Israel: you seek to destroy a city and a mother in Israel: why will you swallow up the inheritance of Yahweh?

2Sm 21:3
and David said to the Gibeonites, What shall I do for you? And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of Yahweh?

1Kg 8:51,53
51 (for they are your people, and your inheritance, which you brought forth out of Egypt, from the midst of the furnace of iron);
53 For you did separate them from among all the peoples of the earth, to be your inheritance, as you spoke by Moses your servant, when you brought our fathers out of Egypt, Lord Yahweh.

2Kg 21:14
I will cast off the remnant of my inheritance, and deliver them into the hand of their enemies; and they shall become a prey and a spoil to all their enemies;

Ps 28:9
Save your people,
and bless your inheritance.
Be their shepherd also,
and bear them up forever.

Ps 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is Yahweh,
the people whom he has chosen for his own inheritance.

Ps 68:9
You, God, sent a plentiful rain.
You confirmed your inheritance, when it was weary.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 78:62,71
62 He also gave his people over to the sword,
and was angry with his inheritance.
71 from following the ewes that have their young,
he brought him to be the shepherd of Jacob, his people,
and Israel, his inheritance.

Ps 94:5,14
5 They break your people in pieces, Yahweh,
and afflict your heritage.
14 For Yahweh won’t reject his people,
neither will he forsake his inheritance.

Ps 106:5,40
5 that I may see the prosperity of your chosen,
that I may rejoice in the gladness of your nation,
that I may glory with your inheritance.
40Therefore Yahweh burned with anger against his people.
He abhorred his inheritance.

Is 47:6
I was angry with my people, I profaned my inheritance, and gave them into your hand: you did show them no mercy; on the aged have you very heavily laid your yoke.

Jr 2:7
I brought you into a plentiful land, to eat its fruit and its goodness; but when you entered, you defiled my land, and made my heritage an abomination.

Jr 10:16
The portion of Jacob is not like these; for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the tribe of his inheritance: Yahweh of Armies is his name.

Jr 12:7,8,9
7 I have forsaken my house, I have cast off my heritage; I have given the dearly beloved of my soul into the hand of her enemies.
8 My heritage is become to me as a lion in the forest: she has uttered her voice against me; therefore I have hated her.
9 Is my heritage to me as a speckled bird of prey? are the birds of prey against her all around? go you, assemble all the animals of the field, bring them to devour.

Jr 16:18
First I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double, because they have polluted my land with the carcasses of their detestable things, and have filled my inheritance with their abominations.

Jr 50:11
Because you are glad, because you rejoice, O you who plunder my heritage, because you are wanton as a heifer that treads out the grain, and neigh as strong horses;

Jr 51:19
The portion of Jacob is not like these; for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the tribe of his inheritance: Yahweh of Armies is his name.

Jl 2:17
Let the priests, the ministers of Yahweh, weep between the porch and the altar,
and let them say, “Spare your people, Yahweh,
and don’t give your heritage to reproach,
that the nations should rule over them.

Jl 3:2
I will gather all nations,
and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat;
and I will execute judgment on them there for my people,
and for my heritage, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations.
They have divided my land,

Mc 7:14,18
14 Shepherd your people with your staff,
the flock of your heritage,
who dwell by themselves in a forest,
in the midst of fertile pasture land, let them feed;
in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
18 Who is a God like you, who pardons iniquity,
and passes over the disobedience of the remnant of his heritage?


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Post  true lilly Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:36 am

Babel Island is a granite island, with an area of 440 ha
located off the east coast of Flinders Island.

It is part of the Furneaux Group Archipelago,
at the eastern end of Bass Strait,
between Victoria and Tasmania, Australia.


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It is privately owned.

Babel island is home to the largest colony of

Short-tailed Shearwaters
in the world,
with an estimated 2.8 million pairs,
or about 12% of the
whole population of this species,
and is subject to annual muttonbirding.


Mighty Ducks
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060517459&postcount=33519
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060519659&postcount=33554

LYING, TWISTING, LITTLE GOATS V The Lilies of The Field
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060519828&postcount=33555
Though Giglio means "lily" in Italian, the island's name is derived from Aegilium,
"Goat Island", a Latin transliteration of the Greek word for "little goat" (Aigýllion).

Mainly mountainous, it consists almost entirely of granites.


My beloved 1730 [is] mine, and I [am] his:
he feedeth 7462 among the lilies 7799.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lilies&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lily&t=KJV&sf=5

[[To the chief Musician 5329
upon Shoshannim 7799,
for the sons 1121 of Korah 7141, Maschil 4905 ,
A Song 7892 of loves 3039.]]

My heart 3820 is inditing 7370 a good 2896 matter 1697:
I speak 559 of the things which I have made 4639
touching the king 4428:
my tongue 3956 [is] the pen 5842 of a ready 4106 writer 5608 .

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=45&t=KJV#1
Psalms 45:1-17


To the director upon The Lilies.
Of the sons of Ko´rah. Mas´kil.
A song of the beloved women.


1
My heart has become astir with a goodly matter.
I am saying: “My works are concerning a king.”
May my tongue be the stylus of a skilled copyist.

2
You are indeed more handsome than the sons of men.
Charm has been poured out upon your lips.
That is why God has blessed you to time indefinite.

3
Gird your sword upon [your] thigh, O mighty one,
[With] your dignity and your splendor.

4
And in your splendor go on to success;
Ride in the cause of truth and humility [and] righteousness,
And your right hand will instruct you in fear-inspiring things.

5
Your arrows are sharp—under you peoples keep falling—
In the heart of the enemies of the king.

6
God is your throne to time indefinite, even forever;
The scepter of your kingship is a scepter of uprightness.

7
You have loved righteousness and you hate wickedness.
That is why God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of exultation
more than your partners.

8
All your garments are myrrh and aloeswood [and] cassia;
Out from the grand ivory palace stringed instruments themselves
have made you rejoice.

9
The daughters of kings are among your precious women.
The queenly consort has taken her stand at your right hand in gold of O´phir.

10
Listen, O daughter, and see, and incline your ear;
And forget your people and your father’s house.

11
And the king will long for your prettiness,
For he is your lord,
So bow down to him.

12
The daughter of Tyre also with a gift—
The rich ones of the people will soften your own face.

13
The king’s daughter is all glorious within [the house];
Her clothing is with settings of gold.

14
In woven apparel she will be brought to the king.
The virgins in her train as her companions are being brought in to you.

15
They will be brought with rejoicing and joyfulness;
They will enter into the palace of the king.

16
In place of your forefathers there will come to be your sons,
Whom you will appoint as princes in all the earth.

17
I will make mention of your name throughout all generations to come.
That is why peoples themselves will laud you to time indefinite, even forever.



[[To the chief Musician 5329
upon Shoshannim 7799,
[A Psalm] of David 1732.]]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=69&t=KJV#1
Psalms 69:1-36


To the director on The Lilies. Of David.

1
Save me, O God, for the waters have come clear to the soul.

2
I have sunk down in deep mire, where there is no standing ground.
I have come into profound waters,
And a flowing stream itself has washed me away.

3
I have become tired by my calling out;
My throat has become hoarse.
My eyes have failed while waiting for my God.

4
Those hating me without a cause have become even more than the hairs of my head.
Those bringing me to silence, being my enemies for no reason, have become numerous.
What I had not taken by robbery I then proceeded to give back.

5
O God, you yourself have come to know my foolishness,
And from you my own guiltiness has not been hidden.

6
O may those hoping in you not be ashamed because of me,
O Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies.
O may those seeking you not be humiliated because of me,
O God of Israel.

7
For on your account I have borne reproach,
Humiliation has covered my face.

8
I have become one estranged to my brothers,
And a foreigner to the sons of my mother.

9
For sheer zeal for your house has eaten me up,
And the very reproaches of those reproaching you have fallen upon me.

10
And I proceeded to weep with the fasting of my soul,
But it came to be for reproaches to me.

11
When I made sackcloth my clothing,
Then I became to them a proverbial saying.

12
Those sitting in the gate began concerning themselves about me,
And [I was] the subject of the songs of drinkers of intoxicating liquor.

13
But as for me, my prayer was to you, O Jehovah,
At an acceptable time, O God.
In the abundance of your loving-kindness answer me with the truth of salvation by you.

14
Deliver me from the mire, that I may not sink down.
O may I be delivered from those hating me and from the deep waters.

15
O may not the flowing stream of waters wash me away,
Nor the depth swallow me up,
Nor the well close its mouth over me.

16
Answer me, O Jehovah, for your loving-kindness is good.
According to the multitude of your mercies turn to me,

17
And do not conceal your face from your servant.
Because I am in sore straits, answer me quickly.

18
Do come near to my soul, reclaim it;
On account of my enemies redeem me.

19
You yourself have come to know my reproach and my shame and my humiliation.
All those showing hostility to me are in front of you.

20
Reproach itself has broken my heart, and [the wound] is incurable.
And I kept hoping for someone to show sympathy, but there was none;
And for comforters, but I found none.

21
But for food they gave [me] a poisonous plant,
And for my thirst they tried to make me drink vinegar.

22
Let their table before them become a trap,
And what is for their welfare a snare.

23
Let their eyes become darkened so as not to see;
And cause their very hips to wobble constantly.

24
Pour out upon them your denunciation,
And may your own burning anger overtake them.

25
Let their walled camp become desolate;
In their tents may there come to be no dweller.

26
For the one whom you yourself have struck they have pursued,
And the pains of those pierced by you they keep recounting.

27
Do give error upon their error,
And may they not come into your righteousness.

28
Let them be wiped out of the book of the living ones,
And with the righteous ones may they not be written in.

29
But I am afflicted and aching.
May your own salvation, O God, protect me.

30
I will praise the name of God with song,
And I will magnify him with thanksgiving.

31
This will also be more pleasing to Jehovah than a bull,
Than a young bull displaying horns, splitting the hoof.

32
The meek ones will certainly see [it]; they will rejoice.
YOU who are seeking God, let YOUR heart also keep alive.

33
For Jehovah is listening to the poor ones,
And he will indeed not despise his very own prisoners.

34
Let heaven and earth praise him,
The seas and everything moving about in them.

35
For God himself will save Zion
And will build the cities of Judah;
And they will certainly dwell there and take possession of it.

36
And the offspring of his servants themselves will inherit it,
And those loving his name will be the ones to reside in it.


true lilly wrote:Another Sign to LOCATE Lands
Described in Holy Scripture...


NO ONE can simply walk up to
"quails" or "pheasants"
and collect more than they can eat,
but in ONE AREA on Earth they CAN, STILL,
gather the most tasty of birds...


Mutton Birds

Aboriginal people still harvest the mutton
birds. Our catch and sales are dependent
on the sustainability of the harvest. Mutton
birds are a delicacy to eat, with a rich oily
flavour unlike any other.

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The short-tailed shearwater of Griffiths Island
(Puffinus tenuirostiris - Tasmanian Shearwater)
is commonly called the 'mutton bird'.
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Given the name 'mutton bird'
by early settlers of Port Fairy
of its fatty flesh, the shearwater
was hunted as a food and oil source.

Today the shearwater
is totally protected in Victoria.


The journey, of about 15,000 km, passes
New Zealand and Japan
and is completed in only two months.

The return journey follows the coast of
North America to California,
then south-west across the Pacific.
Prevailing winds aid their flight for most of the journey
but on the final leg, from the central Pacific,
the birds battle across south-east winds
.

They return to their nesting grounds exhausted...
http://www.port-fairy.com/shearwaters.htm

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Ferley Gardner,
Tasmanian Aboriginal Elder...
...One of the highlights of her childhood was
when her family would pack up everything each year
and travel to Big Dog Island or Babel Island
for the mutton bird season.

...COLLECTING BIRDS ON BABEL ISLAND ...

http://www.abc.net.au/gnt/history/Tr...s/s1045602.htm
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=quail*+H7958&t=KJV
And it came to pass, that at even 6153 the quails 7958 came up 5927,
and covered 3680 the camp 4264: and in the morning 1242 the dew 2919
lay 7902 round about 5439 the host 4264.


And there went forth 5265 a wind 7307 from the LORD 3068,
and brought 1468 quails 7958 from the sea 3220,
and let [them] fall 5203 by the camp 4264,

as it were a day's 3117 journey 1870 on this side 3541,
and as it were a day's 3117 journey 1870 on the other side 3541,
round about 5439 the camp 4264, and as it were two cubits 520 [high]
upon the face 6440 of the earth 776.

And the people 5971 stood up 6965 all that day 3117,
and all [that] night 3915, and all the next 4283 day 3117,
and they gathered 622 the quails
7958:
he that gathered least 4591 gathered 622 ten 6235 homers 2563:

and they spread 7849 [them] all abroad 7849
for themselves round about 5439 the camp 4264.

[The people] asked 7592, and he brought 935 quails 7958,
and satisfied 7646 them with the bread 3899 of heaven 8064.
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Post  true lilly Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:02 am

NONE of this is 'news'.

For years I've WARNED of it, AGAINST all the 'experts',
and all the CONspiracy forum 'names', WHO STILL DEMAND
that my WARNINGS BE IGNORED, and 'their' PROVEN LIES
be 'bought'...with YOUR LIVES.


Thousands Flee Euro Crisis For New Life In Oz
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8:46am UK, Friday January 13, 2012
Jonathan Samuels, Australia correspondent

Growing numbers of Europeans are fleeing the euro crisis for a new life in Australia.

In the wake of the global financial downturn and with the euro debt crisis still unfolding, many from Greece, Italy and Ireland are quitting their homeland and heading Down Under.

Figures from the Australian department of immigration show that it is the Irish who are especially keen to move south.

From 2009 to 2010, 1,280 Irish citizens were granted temporary
working visas. The following year it rose to 2,250 but in the last six
months alone the figure is already up to 3,100.


Australia has avoided the global financial crisis because of its huge
natural resources like coal and iron ore. Developing economies like
China are massive customers.


It is the strong economy that persuaded the Corbett family to move from their home in Cork to Sydney last May.

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Valentina Grande: Life is good in Australia

Rory and Mary Corbett, along with their two young children, had
enjoyed a holiday to Australia and knew it was somewhere they could
happily live.


As skilled workers they have been sponsored by their new employers.

Mrs Corbett said: "Even though my husband had a job, I had a job, it
was getting to the stage where there was more money going out than there
was coming in.


"And with all the austerity cuts that were happening as well,
education funds were being cut right back, hospital funding was being
cut, so we were just looking at our kids and thinking what kind of a
future have you guys got in this country."


With a huge grin on her face, Valentina Grande is serving customers
in the sunshine at the Papa Giovanni Italian restaurant opposite
Sydney's famous Bondi beach.


In Australia on a working holiday visa, she told Sky News: "In Italy
there isn't work, there isn't money, but here you can find, very easily,
a job and get good money and good tips."


Last year just one of the restaurant's employees was from Italy - now
there are eight. Every week more Italians come through the doors
looking for a job.


They are mainly young, single and desperate for a positive start to
their working lives in a place they know they will be well paid.


"Life is good here," Ms Grande said, "I get paid weekly. In Italy I
was paid monthly so if the restaurant didn't make money, you could work
for a few weeks and find you don't get paid at the end. Life there is
stressful."


Professor Stephen Castles from Sydney University is an expert in global migration.

He believes the influx of workers to Australia is welcome, especially
in sectors where recruitment is difficult, but creates worries for the
countries they are leaving.


"It is a huge loss," he said: "They are losing the people they will
need when the economy recovers, if the economy recovers, and there may
be global competition to attract those skills. Those counties might try
and attract their citizens back."


Even in Australia the outlook is not completely sunny. Australia
exports to Europe and the US, making it vulnerable to any serious drop
in Chinese and Indian demand for its minerals.


But for now it is seen by many refugees of the euro crisis as a place of opportunity and optimism.
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Friday 13th Nightmare For The Eurozone
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9:52am UK, Saturday January 14, 2012
Ed Conway, economics editor


You can say a lot of things about Standard & Poor's, but the one thing you cannot question is their sense of timing.

Last month, they could have chosen almost any day to warn that they
were placing the entire eurozone on watch for a possible downgrade; but
they elected to make the announcement just hours after Nicolas Sarkozy
and Angela Merkel used an emergency summit to promise to safeguard the
euro.


And
now they have chosen Friday the 13th to confirm that the majority of
those 15 nations put on negative watch have now been downgraded.


And, as if to twist the knife, it also emerged on Friday that talks
between Athens and private sector investors aimed at voluntarily
reducing the total amount of Greek debt had fallen through.


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Investors may ignore the credit ratings

And, to top it all off, clearing house LCH Clearnet raised its margin
requirement for those using it to buy Italian debt from 8.15% to 8.3%.


It is not just the date that is ironic. Against all expectations, the
eurozone had been looking tentatively more healthy in the past few
weeks.


The past seven days have seen successful debt auctions by two of the most troubled euro members - Spain and Italy.

The European Central Bank's emergency lending operations seemed to have calmed nerves significantly.

Now, it looks quite conceivable that eurozone policymakers will spend
the rest of the month firefighting the next round in the single
currency's crisis until they gather at the end of January for their
latest Brussels summit.


I understand that senior European financial officials were deep in a
key Brussels set of negotiations when they learnt - on their
blackberries - about the impending downgrades, and had to scramble to
come up with a strategy for downplaying the news.


Although it clearly has more of the wow factor, there is good reason
to suspect that the S&P downgrade (which includes France, Austria
and Italy, but not Germany, the Netherlands, Finland and Luxembourg,
which get to keep their AAA) will not be a hammer blow for the euro.


As I wrote when S&P
first announced that they were putting the euro area on creditwatch
negative, there are growing signs that investors are choosing to ignore
official credit ratings.


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A downgrade could affect Mr Sarkozy's presidential campaign

To put it another way, the fact that France will be AA rather than
AAA is unlikely to change investors' minds when it comes to buying (or
selling) French debt.


Nonetheless, a French downgrade (and for that matter a downgrade of
other major euro members) will trigger a downgrade of the EFSF - the
continent-wide rescue fund which was supposed to bolster the currency.


Moreover, it represents a serious political blow for Nicolas Sarkozy as he fights for re-election this year.

Italy suffers a downgrade of two notches, as do Portugal and Spain,
implying that S&P is particularly worried about their capacity to
withstand the crisis.


And when you read the statement accompanying the decisions,
the explanation of why the downgrades have happened is damning, saying:
"Policy initiatives taken by European policymakers in recent weeks may
be insufficient to fully address ongoing systemic stresses in the
eurozone".


It's equally intriguing to examine the countries which were spared a downgrade.

Germany hangs onto its AAA crown, and has its outlook put back on a
stable footing - implying it is nowhere near being downgraded.


Berlin might reasonably ask why it was lumped in with the rest of the
currency zone when its circumstances (which haven't really changed over
the past month) don't merit it.


Thanks to its part as the poster boy of austerity, Ireland keeps its
rating unchanged, but, at BBB+ it was close to junk status as it was.


Finland, which historically has one of the world's best debt-payment
records, almost alone in not having defaulted in any way during or after
WWII, retains its AAA rating, but is put on "outlook negative", which
means it still has the sword of damocles hanging over it.


And as of Friday evening there were three euro members which are junk
bond issuers, which in technical terms means they have ratings of below
BBB and in normal-person terms means their debt is regarded as highly
at risk of default. Greece (CC) is joined in that club by Portugal (BB)
and Cyprus (BB+) - home to many UK nationals.


But it may well be the breakdown of the Greek talks that prove the more serious of today's stories.

If, as the statement from the Institute for International Finance
suggests, it will be impossible for the investors and the Greeks to
reduce the country's debt voluntarily, it means the country will have to
go through a messy default.


That implies a wave of stress spreading through the financial system -
precisely the eventuality European policymakers were trying desperately
to avoid through these negotiations.


Over the course of Friday, the cost of borrowing for the affected
euro members rose sharply, although it dropped for Germany, as well as
the UK - both of which will be among the few AAA countries remaining.


Either way, both of these pieces of news are deeply worrying for the single currency - and bring forward its moment of truth.

Can its leaders unite and create a proper political and fiscal union,
or does this mean the beginning of the end for the world's biggest ever
economic project?
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ISAIAH 60:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=60&t=KJV#6
1
“Arise, O woman, shed forth light, for your light has come
and upon you the very glory of Jehovah has shone forth.
2
For, look! darkness itself will cover the earth,
and thick gloom the national groups;
but upon you Jehovah will shine
forth, and upon you his own glory will be seen.
3
And nations will certainly go to your light,
and kings to the brightness of your shining forth.


4
“Raise your eyes all around and see!
They have allof them been collected together; they have come to you.
From far away your own sons keep coming,
and your daughters who will be taken care of on the flank.
5
At that time you will see and certainly become radiant,
and your heart will actually quiver and expand,
because to you the wealthiness of the sea will direct itself;
the very resources of the nations will come to you.
6
The heaving mass of camels itself will cover you,
the young male camels of Mid´i·an and of E´phah.
All those from She´ba—they will come.
Gold and frankincense they will carry.
And the praises of Jehovah they will announce.
7
All the flocks of Ke´dar—they will be collected together to you.
The rams of Ne·ba´ioth—they will minister to you.
With approval they will come up upon my altar,
and I shall beautify my own house of beauty.


8
“Who are these that come flying just like a cloud,
and like doves to their birdhouse holes?
9
For in me the islands themselves will keep hoping,
the ships of Tar´shish also as at the first,
in order to bring your sons from far away,
their silver and their gold being with them,
to the name of Jehovah your God and to the Holy One of Israel,
for he will have beautified you.
10
And foreigners will actually build your walls,
and their own kings will minister to you;
for in my indignation I shall have struck you,
but in my goodwill I shall certainly have mercy upon you.


11
“And your gates will actually be kept open constantly;
they will not be closed even by day or by night,
in order to bring to you the resources of the nations,
and their kings will be taking the lead.
12
For any nation and any kingdom that will not serve you will perish;
and the nations themselves will without fail come to devastation.


13
“To you the very glory of Leb´a·non will come,
the juniper tree, the ash tree and the cypress at the same time,
in order to beautify the place of my sanctuary;
and I shall glorify the very place of my feet.


14
“And to you the sons of those afflicting you must go, bowing down;
and all those treating you disrespectfully must bend down at the very soles of your feet,
and they will have to call you the city of Jehovah, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.


15
“Instead of your proving to be one left entirely and hated,
with nobody passing through, I will even set you as a thing of pride to time indefinite,
an exultation for generation after generation.
16
And you will actually suck the milk of nations,
and the breast of kings you will suck;
and you will be certain to know that I, Jehovah, am your Savior,
and the Powerful One of Jacob is your Repurchaser.
17
Instead of the copper I shall bring in gold, and instead of the iron I shall bring in silver,
and instead of the wood, copper, and instead of the stones, iron;
and I will appoint peace as your overseers and righteousness as your task assigners.


18
“No more will violence be heard in your land,
despoiling or breakdown within your boundaries.
And you will certainly call your own walls Salvation and your gates Praise.
19
For you the sun will no more prove to be a light by day,
and for brightness the moon itself will no more give you light.
And Jehovah must become to you an indefinitely lasting light,
and your God your beauty.
20
No more will your sun set, nor will your moon go on the wane;
for Jehovah himself will become for you an indefinitely lasting light,
and the days of your mourning will have come to completion.
21
And as for your people, all of them will be righteous;
to time indefinite they will hold possession of the land, the
sprout of my planting, the work of my hands, for [me] to be beautified.
22
The little one himself will become a thousand,
and the small one a mighty nation.
I myself, Jehovah, shall speed it up in its own time.”
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Over 400 LAKES...
well if that isn't, or rather, wasn't,
prime forestry country,
I'll go hee...funny to,
that the remains of trees already long ago found there,
are the same as unique, native Australian trees...and,
ridiculous, that 'they' believe slandering me, will somehow,
prevent what God Promised to Reveal, from being revealed,
when I simply report on, what those doing the science and
discoveries, discover...with the links to the sources, as well
as the links to what God told us to watch for, that come to be.

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Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth, where the
drilling is being carried out, is in the West of Antarctica. There are
more than 400 subglacial lakes across Antarctica


Truly ANCIENT LEBANON, and what became of it:
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Isaiah 60:13
(NWTotHS)
“To you the very glory of Leb´a·non will come,
the juniper tree, the ash tree and the cypress at the same time,
in order to beautify the place of my sanctuary;
and I shall glorify the very place of my feet.)

(KJV)
The glory 3519 of Lebanon 3844 shall come 935 unto thee,
the fir tree 1265, the pine tree 8410, and the box 8391 together 3162,
to beautify 6286 the place 4725 of my sanctuary 4720;
and I will make the place 4725 of my feet 7272 glorious 3513.

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia



British explorers prepare to drill into
lost Antarctic world buried for a million years
almost two miles beneath the ice


  • Team faced -35C temperatures as they moved 70 tonnes of equipment to drilling site through mountain range
  • Samples from 1.8 miles under the ice are expected to reveal more about the Earth's past climate
  • Drilling operation will be carried out in November
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Rob Cooper

Last updated at 8:53 AM on 16th January 2012
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British explorers are preparing to drill through
almost two miles of ice into an Antarctic lake as they
seek clues about life one million years ago.


The team used a 'tractor train' to tow nearly 70 tonnes of equipment to the
Lake Ellsworth drilling site which is one of the most hostile environments on earth
as they prepare for the operation.

They will return in November to collect water and sediment from the buried lake
using space industry standard 'clean technology'.


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British team: The UK flag flies at lake Ellsworth where the drilling will take place
later this year. 70 tonnes of equipment has since been moved into place ready for
the operation



They hope the samples will provide clues about the Earth's past climate.

It could also help scientists assess the present-day stability of the West
Antarctic Ice Sheet and implications for future rises in the sea level.


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The advance party, comprising four British engineers, braved temperatures of -35C
as they transported the drilling equipment.


They used powerful tractors to tow heavy containers of equipment on sledges
and skis across deep snow and through steep mountain passes.


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Explorers: The team of four who are braving freezing conditions to work at the Lake Ellsworth site

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Final frontier: The British team will live in tents at the site as they collect samples from 1.8miles below the ice

The 155-mile journey through the Ellsworth Mountain Range took them three days to complete.

Scientists have been planning the investigation for more than 15 years.

The Lake Ellsworth Programme Principal Investigator, Professor Martin
Siegert from the University of Edinburgh, said: 'The completion of this
stage of the mission is a welcome one - we are now one step closer to
finding out if new and unique forms of microbial life could have evolved
in this environment.


'The samples we hope to capture from Lake Ellsworth
will be hugely valuable to the scientific community.

'This year we will complete and test both the water sampling probe and the sediment corer.


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Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth, where the drilling is being carried out,
is in the West of Antarctica. There are more than 400 subglacial lakes across Antarctica

'Extracted sediment samples could give us
an important insight in to the ancient history
of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, including past collapse,
which would have implications

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http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?criteria=lebanon&page=2&sf=5&t=KJV )for future sea level rise.'

During phase two of the project researchers will use a high-pressure drill
to create a borehole through 1.8miles of ice.

They will then lower a titanium probe to measure and sample the water,
followed by a corer to extract sediment from the lake.


It will take around three days to drill through the ice and the scientists
will have about 24 hours to gather samples before the hole starts to freeze over.


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Plan: This graph shows how the team will create a 1.8mile borehole
to the bottom of the lake over three days before lowering a corer to extract sediment

The equipment has been left one mile from the actual drilling site so that
the location remains unaffected by the equipment's presence.


Lake Ellsworth
is around 8.6 miles long, 1.2-1.8 miles wide and 150m deep,
around the size of Loch Katrine in the Trossachs, or Lake Windermere in the
Lake District.


Chris Hill, Advance Party Member and Lake Ellsworth Programme Manager said:
'This is a major milestone for the programme and we are delighted that
our complex logistical operations were a success this season.


'Working within the short Antarctic summer season adds pressure to our time on
the continent, which is why we had to plan two stages of the programme.'


The Lake Ellsworth programme is a consortium, funded by the Natural
Environment Research Council (NERC), between British Antarctic Survey
and the National Oceanography Centre - and the UK university sector.


More than 400 subglacial lakes
have so far been discovered
beneath Antarctica's vast ice sheet.


A Russian team hopes soon to penetrate and collect samples
from Lake Vostok in East Antarctica.

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