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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
MoMo Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:53 am
true lilly wrote:
Get ready for more TORAH SPAM......poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?
...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia
Note: Israel is shown in blue.
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...
What an ignorant douchebag.
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
MoMo Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:04 pm
Yoo Hoo!!! lilly, You are the Antisemite seeking to steal the Jews Identity and their Book, The Bible; and misrepresenting it.
1: You promote the bogus Doctrine of 'Church/Spiritual Israel' Replacement Theology, claiming that YHWH/God has abandoned the Jews and the Eternal Covenant He made with them and their Land, Israel.
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
Definition
Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:
2: Also you promote the Bogus Doctrine that 'Jesus' 'did away with' YHWHs/Gods Torah/Instruction.
Another degenerate lie. All one has to do to see through your lies is to read the Actual Scriptures.
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/12-2004-PW.pdf
lilly, you are the proverbial False Prophet!!
1: You promote the bogus Doctrine of 'Church/Spiritual Israel' Replacement Theology, claiming that YHWH/God has abandoned the Jews and the Eternal Covenant He made with them and their Land, Israel.
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
Definition
Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:
1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.
2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”..........................Exegetical Problems with Supersessionism
Did the sins of the Jewish nation result in her rejection? Paul’s answer is found in Romans 11: I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom He foreknew (vv. 1-2, NKJV). I say then, have they [Israel] stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! (vv. 11-12, NKJV). For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (v. 15, NKJV).
If the Jewish nation has no future in God’s plan, as the supersessionists claim, then what is the future “fullness” of Israel that Paul mentions in verse 12? And when, exactly, will the nation be resurrected (“life from the dead”) and “accepted” by God (verse 15)? Paul can’t be talking about the Church in this passage because the Church has never died - and never will (John 11:26). The only reasonable answer is that Paul is referring to a yet-future resurrection and restoration of Am Israel (the “people of Israel,” a collective term for the nation), as prophesied in passages like Ezekiel 37:1-14. It doesn’t mean they will automatically be saved simply because they are Jewish; rather, it means that the majority of Jewish people who are living at that time will recognize Yeshua of Nazareth as their Messiah and receive Him as Savior (Zechariah 12:10, Romans 11:26).
They will be saved in the same way believers from all ages and generations have been saved; that is, they will be saved by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-10). The problem with saying that God rejected His people Israel is that the term “rejection” implies permanence and finality. Paul’s forceful statements in Romans 11 probably indicate that people were claiming, even in his day, that God had “cast away” His people Israel (v. 1). They were saying that Israel had “stumbled’ and “fallen” from her former position (vv. 11-12). Paul rejected any such notion (“Certainly not!” in verses 1 and 11). Then he goes on to say that even if we insist on saying that they were rejected, then we are forced to the conclusion that the rejection is only temporary. Even if we insist on saying that they did stumble and fall, then it must also be said that their fall brought salvation to the rest of the world (Gentiles) - and Israel’s fall, too, is only temporary because they are destined to be restored one day to a position of “fullness” (v. 12).
The “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom. 11:25) refers to the time when the full number of non-Jewish believers has been added to the ranks of the Church and the last person has been saved. Likewise, the “fullness” of the Jewish people (v. 12) refers to the time when “all Israel shall be saved” (v. 26). As we saw earlier, that means the Jewish people en masse will recognize and receive their Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. There may be some dissenters - and their probably will be - but the Holy Spirit of God will do a powerful work among the Jewish people, and multitudes of them - the vast majority of them - will come to faith in the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth.
The truth is that God is no more finished with Israel than He is finished with the Gentiles. Neither one has been replaced by the other; and God’s plan for both remains intact, in spite of their failures. This is really the crux of the issue. Replacement Theology says that Israel was rejected by God and that the rejection was permanent and irrevocable; however, we say that God’s calling on Israel was permanent and irrevocable, in spite of her many sins and shortcomings (Romans 11:29)
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2: Also you promote the Bogus Doctrine that 'Jesus' 'did away with' YHWHs/Gods Torah/Instruction.
Another degenerate lie. All one has to do to see through your lies is to read the Actual Scriptures.
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/12-2004-PW.pdf
If you are still tempted to follow some Christian, Moslem, Jewish or Catholic leader into believing that Yahweh’s Laws have been
done away with or can be rewritten to suit whoever, read the following inspired words of the prophets, apostles, and Savior. I Yahchanan 3:4—
. Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law. I Yahchanan 2:4—
. He who says: I know Him, but does not keep His Law, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. I Yahchanan 3:7-8—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil...............................N.otice what the Prophet Yeremyah was inspired to write in: Yeremyah 23:26-27—
26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds;
27 Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his
neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal; Lord.................... Romans 10:4—For Yahshua is the ultimate result of keeping the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes.......................... Mattithyah 24:11-12—11 And many false prophets will rise, and will deceive the many.
12 And because iniquity; the breaking of Yahweh’s Law, will abound, the love of the many will grow cold.
Please notice in the above verses that the Savior is saying that these religions are teaching people to practice and abound in
breaking Yahweh’s Laws..................
lilly, you are the proverbial False Prophet!!
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
MoMo Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:14 pm
What about these facts lilly? Do you comprehend any of this? I've asked you before.
Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God
1: Has Intelligence
2: Has Freewill
3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul
4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.
5: Has the faculty of Judgement
6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity
As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.
The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.
The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.
The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.
The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."
These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg
This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.
The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.
The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.
Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.
Summarized
We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.
* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.
* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.
* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.
* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.
* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)
* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.
* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.
* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.
* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.
* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos
1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.
2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.
* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.
The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.
* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos
3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.
Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.
In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'
* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.
Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.
* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.
* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.
* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.
* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.
Tikkun Olam
* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.
* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.
* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.
* To accept Limits.
* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.
* To join in working for Order against Chaos.
* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.
* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.
* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.
* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.
* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:
* Infinite Value
* Equality
* Uniqueness.
These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh
The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet/Alephbet ........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemisphereical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....
THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO G-D...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman
The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.
I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.
Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...
Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.
All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...
All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.
Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.
Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.
1: Monotheism
2: Universal Codified Law
3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE
Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.
The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.
Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.
The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.
Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.
Yahweh expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.
The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......
Yahweh forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.
He sanctioned only the written word.
This promulgates equality and openness.
An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.
A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,
Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.
Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.
Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.
Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.
'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.
The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.
For that is the purpose of making the covenant.
Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.
To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.
1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.
2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.
3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.
At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.
Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.
Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life
Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.
The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.
The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.
Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.
Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.
Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. A Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..
Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.
Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.
If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?
Examine each groups values and praxis.
Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.
This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.
They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.
One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.
The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.
This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.
When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.
Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.
As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.
The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.
The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.
Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.
One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.
Social Engineering.
The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.
The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.
The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.
The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.
Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18
The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.
The First Commandment:
20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.
Nothing personal, it was business.
The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82
Psalm 82
82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.
82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.
82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.
All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.
The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.
Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.
Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.
The Second Commandment:
20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.
Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.
Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.
The Third Commandment:
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.
Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.
To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.
The Fourth Commandment:
20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.
This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.
Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,
No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.
The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.
Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.
Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.
Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.
A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.
Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.
The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.
This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.
A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.
This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.
Time is a key function of the Left Brain.
Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.
Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.
This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.
What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.
Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Sinai:
1: Monotheism emerged,
2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics
3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy
For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.
Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11
The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.
Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.
Yahweh actually cares.
If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.
The polytheistic gods did not.
Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamis.
He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.
Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.
All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.
It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.
Ignorance of the Law was no defence.
The Hebrews were the first to embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first Book written in an Alphbet.
The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alphabetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.
Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.
The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced the possibility of Universal Literacy, so we may honestly thank and praise Yahweh that we are Literate!
All together now: Hallelu Yahweh!!!
Woot!!!! Wooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So once upon a time way out in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.
Historical Data: Proto-Sinatic Alphabet
Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE
Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after
Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform
Akkadian Cuneiform after Sumerian Conquest.
An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.
Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.
Throughout the ANE, Babylon, Egypt.etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.
The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.
The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.
Moral Realtivist may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?
Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, lo those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.
The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.
The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Book of Yahwehs/Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.
Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.
Of all the ANE Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.
Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.
The Jews have an unshakable faith.
The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
From the Alphabet Effect and the Oxford Companion to the Brain/Mind
East/Right...............................West/Left
Ideograms........................................Alphabet
Right brain oriented.............................Left Brain Oriented
Non-Linear........................................Linear
Acoustical.........................................Visual
Analogical.........................................Logical
Inductive..........................................Deductive
Concrete...........................................Abstract
Mystical............................................Causal
Intuitive...........................................Rational
Generalist.........................................Specialist
Decentralized......................................Centralized
Local................................................Universal
Integrative.........................................Fragmented
Space Oriented....................................Time Oriented
Traditional.........................................Progressive
Cyclic Time........................................Continuous Time
Algebraic...........................................Geometric
Concrete Science..................................Abstract Science
Order & Pattern....................................Natural Law
Craft.................................................Technology
Invention............................................Exploitation
Technique...........................................System
Customs-Mores (confucious)......................Codified Law
Harmony of Nature (Tao)..........................Monotheism
Relativity............................................Absolutism
The Human Brain has three evolutionary layers.
1: The Reptilian Brain=Instinctual
2: The Paleo-Mammalian= generates Emotions
3: The Cerebral NeoCortex=Imagination, Intelligence-Right and Left Hemispheres, Corpus Callosum-capable of Art & Physics
The three brains in one operate like three interconnected biological computers, each with its own subjectivity, its own special intelligence, and its own sense of Time & Space.
The Atavistic Human Reptilian Brain-The R-Complex, contains Programmes that are rigid, compulsive, ritualistic and paranoid.
The Paleo-Mammalian Brain-The Limbic System is the seat of archaic emotions that drive feeding, fleeing, fighting, and sex-they ensure survival.
All emotions are either pleasant or unpleasant-Pleasure & Pain are the two criteria of Judgement of the Limbic System, judges all experience.
Of the two cortical Hemispheres the Right Brain is in more direct communication with the archaic reptilian instincts and primative mammalian emotions.
An instinct permits no variation in an organisms response to a specific stimulus-Instincts are 'Hard Wired' forcing the organism to respond reflexively & repititously to any particular stimulus.
In mammals emotions may be considered the truncated remnants of reptilian instincts.
A specific stimulus detected by mammalian sensory apparatus always activates the same release of complex chains of neuro-transmitters and hormones.
Emotions impels mammals and hyper-conscious primates to commit repetitive instinctual behavioural patterns.
Fear impels flight or fight responses, hate, anger, jealousy impels them to kill, envy and greed impel them to steal, lust will impel them to cast aside caution and behave in a manner that could compromise their safety and/or survival.
Be that as it may-mammals have more complex brains then reptiles and can make decisions, and are therefore capable of making choosing between different responses.
Humans, due to the development/gift of the Cerebral Cortex; have Freewill, which enables us to override our emotions and modulate our response to environmental provocations.
* Humans have many choices
* Mammals have few
* Reptiles have none at all
Characteristics of the Right Brain
BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS-MUSIC
"All At Once" 'Holistic' 'Gestalt'
Characteristics of the Left Brain
DOING-WORDS-ABSTRACT THINKING-NUMBER SENSE
"One at a time" Abstract, Linear, Sequential
RIGHT BRAIN
1: 'BEING': appreciates 'Feeling State'--complex expressions of emotions-Laughter-Faith-Patriotism-Ectasy-Grief-Love--Etc..Aesthetic Appreciation and Harmony.
There is no precise nomenclature for 'Feeling State', they are subjective, they cannot be precisely enumerated in scientific language, they remain ambiguous. They are: NONDISCURSIVE.
'Feeling States' are Non-Logical; they confute the rules of conventional reasoning.
As Blaise Pascal so succinctly put it: "Le Couer a ses raisons que la raison ne connait pas" The heart has reasons that reason will never know...........
'Feeling States' are authentic, the experience of Love, Hate, Joy, Grief, are known with an internal authority that is beyond the Realm of Debate.
The essence of a 'Joke', Faith in a God, Patriotism, Love are non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.
Intuition/Hunches, or why an object/subject is beautiful to one person but not to another.
Each 'Feeling state' lies beyond the tight circle of logic. When compelled to explain affective States, people usually rely upon that old tautological response: 'It is because it is'.
'Feeling States' do not progress in a linear process, Getting a Joke, Intuitive Insights come out of nowhere, Love at first sight, religious conversions ala Damascus Road are -"All at Once".
2: Images-Comprehension of Images--The Right Hemisphere takes in the 'Big Picture' in a holistic manner, it appreciates the relationship of the parts to the whole. The Right Brain assimilates Images as Gestalts-seeing 'All at Once'.
3: Metaphor: A mental innovation arising out of a unique combination of 'Feeling States' and Images.
Greek Root-Meta=Over and Above-Meta-normal
Phor-Pherein=to bear across
A Metaphor allows/causes the 'Leap' across the chas of one thought to another thought. Metaphors have several different levels of meaning simutaneously (All at Once) perceived and supplies plasticity to otherwise rigid language.
Communicating any affective, emotional 'Feeling State' requires the usage of Metaphor because the so called objective world can be described, measured and catalogued with scientific precision, the internal, subjective world of emotions eludes precise Scientific Analysis.
The verbal art of metaphor is poetry.
Metaphors linguistic cousins are: Similies, analogies, allegories, proverbs and parables. Each allow simultaneous levels of interpreting one single set of words.
Dream Interpretation, Myths, Religions, Dreaming is Right Brain-it is said Dreams are to the individual; what myths and myths are to the society.
The most potent combination of Metaphor & Image is Art.
Visual Art is non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.
the Artistes device is to use visual metaphor to transport a viewer from a neutral affective state to complex 'Feeling States'.
Awe, Shock, Pleasure, ............
When the Artiste is successful the viewer is Transported Metaphorically 'Bearing' us 'across and above'. There is no Transitory State, it is an 'All at Once', Quantuum Leap. That is Great Art, it is Successful.
4: Music-Ability to appreciate and create music is Right Brain. The appreciation of music is an emotion we share with more primative animals.
I lived with two Shar Peis, and everytime I would play Jean Pierre Rampal and Aleander Lagoya the dogs would come into the room and sit and stare at the speakers, I think the Flute charmed them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwNn2egm1E
Music demonstrates the Right Brains ability to process information as an 'All at Once' holistic gestalt by utilising multiple; incoming; converging determinants and integrating them synthetically.
Simultaneity is th eopposite of linear, sequential time, is unique to the Right Brain whose home ground is the realm of visio-spatial context, correlating parts to a whole whilst intuiting diverse relationships amongst them.
Multiple determinants, multiple emotions, multiple meanings, multiple images and multiple sounds converging into one State can be expressed through the metaphor of Space. The Right Brain excels at the appreciation of spatial dimensions and judging distances.
Driving, Skiing, and Dancing are in the dominion of the Right Brain.
The Right Brains principal attributes: BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS & MUSIC echoe evolutionary techniques used by mammals tp comprehend Reality, All at Once, and are perceived holistically.
left brain
The Left Brains modus operendi is: 'DOING' rather then 'BEING'
An accepted rubric of Brain Laterization is the Respective Hemispheres control the opposite side muscular appendages--Left Brain=Right Hand--Right Brain=Left Hand.
The Act of 'willing' is Left Brain, the Right Hand Throws, Gathers, Fabricates.etc......
Rather then Simutaneity/All at once; what makes us 'Homo Faber' the Toolmaker is our sense of an Abstractm, Linear, Sequential series of 'Steps', 'Moves', 'Processes' that exist in Linear sequential Time which is necessary for Craftwork, Hunting etc.
Words-Vocalisations are Left Brain-Language is action Oriented, we abstract, discriminate, analyze and dissect the World into pieces-objects-catagories-that we can then grasp metaphorically and literally. A vocabulary is a Too set by which we act upon the environment.
From the Left Brain issues the generationa nd comprehension of speech with its intricacies of grammar, syntax and semantics.
Speech enables us to not only communicate with others but allows us to talk within ourselves and to ourselves.
Lower Creatures can SIGNAL
Advanced animals can INFORM
Only humans can Question, Dispute and Reason.
Abstract Thinking: This is the ability to process information/Data without the use of Images/Pictures and is the opposite of Metaphorical Thinking.
Words are Image substitutes the mind uses in building Concepts and to solve problems. When Humans evolved beyond thinking in Pictures they made a transformative evolutionary leap.
Previously meaningless phonemes/vocalisations became the words of speech and the tools of abstract thought.
Later when they combined the meaningless letters of an arbitrary alphabet to form visual words to represent the World, they created the Worlds very first Abstract art Form-The Alephbet.
Written Alphabetic Language. The Human Race had combined meaningless sounds with meaningless symbols and and created Civilization!
Abstract Thinking is usually performed within the Context of Causality which evolved from earlier Hominids perceiving, catagorizing the World into Spatial Events occuring in Time. Sunrise/Sunset--High Tide/Low Tide--Spring-Summer-Autumn-Winter.
The Human ability to recognize the intersection of Space & Time may be the precurser condition to recognise Causality and thus Formulate Logic.
The primary benefit of our Species derived from the use of Abstract Thinking was the strengthening of Foresight.
Logic is dependent on the proposition of: If-Then
A hypothetical 'IF' Scenario or idea is formulated in the mind and the placed left of 'NOW' (the past), next a hypothetical 'Then' scenario or idea is placed to the Right of 'NOW' (the future)
One may now apply Forced Logic, and Inductive and DEductive Reasoning to mentally deduce the probability of the 'IF' proposition leading to the 'THEN' proposition and initiate, modify or withold ACTION.
Logic is NOT Holistic, nor is it conceived of as a GESTALT, it depends upon an Abstract Linear Sequence.
IF-THEN Syllogisms are a reliable method of Foretelling/Predicting the Future Events thus replacing Omens, Portents; Oracles, Tarot, Astrology etc....
The Rules of Logic form the foundation of Science, Business and militatary Strategy.
Logical Thinking stands apart from other mental activities like: imagining, intuiting, reflecting, reminiscing, ruminating and daydreaming in that Logical Thinking relies upon a belief in a rigid coordinate system of Absolute Space and Invariant Time-
Number Sense: Ability to count originates in the Visio-Spatial Right Brain, and all higher animals can perceive and separate the concept of 'Oneness'; 'Twoness' and 'Manyness'. The Human ability to manipulate larger numbers is Suis Generis/Unique.
Calculation requires a level of Abstraction beyond the Realm of the Right Brain.
The Left Brain Rules Language and Numbers, the Language of Numbers is Mathematics, which arranges meaningless symbols which represent numbers into simple arithmetic, or into intricate, infinitesimal calculus.
When small children learn the alphabet they also learn mathematics.
The Left Brains innovative features: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are processed in Abstract Linear Sequential Time.
To develop Craftwork Strategy, Language Logic and Mathematics the mind must range back and forth along the line of: Past-Present-Future.
The ability to fashion a Tool arises out of the Left Brain and relies upon the ability to memorize a series of steps in linear sequence.
The dominant hand is a specialized limb that is an extension of sequential Left Hemisphere.
Logic, Algebra, Physics equations all proceed in Time-Line by Line Proofs are the essence of higher math.
A series of numbers is a sequence.
Right Brain: Phylogenetic Learning, vision based and dependent on Space.
Left Brain: Learns Data/Information by rote in sequence-Time.
Right Brain: Holistic, Synthetic integration of Being, Images, Metaphors, Music-Functions: 'ALL AT ONCE'-All can be mapped using the vectors of Space.
Left Brain: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking, and Number sense. Functions: 'ONE AT A TIME' All can be mapped by linear sequential Time.
Being, Metaphor, Image and Music are the Essence of Art.
Doing, reason, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are the essence of Physics
"From the point of view of evolutionary epistemology, the principle lesson of both special and general relativity theories is this: Human /beings are organisms capable of manipulating internal representations of the World by means of concrete operations and can transcend the bounds of their biologically given perceptione. They can liberate themselves and construct a view of reality that conflicts with intuition, yet gives a truer, more encompassing view."
Max Delbruck
"Time & Space are real Beings, a Male & a Female, Time is a Man, Space is a Woman"
William Blake
Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God
1: Has Intelligence
2: Has Freewill
3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul
4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.
5: Has the faculty of Judgement
6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity
As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.
The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.
The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.
The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.
The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."
These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg
This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.
The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.
The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.
Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.
Summarized
We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.
* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.
* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.
* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.
* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.
* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)
* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.
* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.
* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.
* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.
* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos
1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.
2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.
* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.
The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.
* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos
3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.
Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.
In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'
* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.
Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.
* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.
* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.
* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.
* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.
Tikkun Olam
* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.
* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.
* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.
* To accept Limits.
* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.
* To join in working for Order against Chaos.
* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.
* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.
* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.
* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.
* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:
* Infinite Value
* Equality
* Uniqueness.
These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh
The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet/Alephbet ........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemisphereical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....
THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO G-D...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman
The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.
I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.
Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...
Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.
All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...
All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.
Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.
Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.
1: Monotheism
2: Universal Codified Law
3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE
Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.
The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.
Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.
The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.
Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.
Yahweh expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.
The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......
Yahweh forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.
He sanctioned only the written word.
This promulgates equality and openness.
An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.
A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,
Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.
Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.
Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.
Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.
'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.
The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.
For that is the purpose of making the covenant.
Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.
To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.
1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.
2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.
3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.
At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.
Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.
Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life
Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.
The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.
The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.
Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.
Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.
Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. A Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..
Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.
Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.
If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?
Examine each groups values and praxis.
Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.
This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.
They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.
One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.
The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.
This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.
When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.
Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.
As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.
The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.
The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.
Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.
One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.
Social Engineering.
The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.
The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.
The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.
The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.
Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18
The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.
The First Commandment:
20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.
Nothing personal, it was business.
The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82
Psalm 82
82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.
82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.
82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.
All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.
The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.
Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.
Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.
The Second Commandment:
20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.
Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.
Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.
The Third Commandment:
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.
Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.
To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.
The Fourth Commandment:
20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.
This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.
Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,
No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.
The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.
Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.
Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.
Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.
A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.
Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.
The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.
This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.
A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.
This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.
Time is a key function of the Left Brain.
Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.
Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.
This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.
What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.
Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Sinai:
1: Monotheism emerged,
2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics
3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy
For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.
Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11
The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.
Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.
Yahweh actually cares.
If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.
The polytheistic gods did not.
Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamis.
He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.
Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.
All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.
It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.
Ignorance of the Law was no defence.
The Hebrews were the first to embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first Book written in an Alphbet.
The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alphabetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.
Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.
The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced the possibility of Universal Literacy, so we may honestly thank and praise Yahweh that we are Literate!
All together now: Hallelu Yahweh!!!
Woot!!!! Wooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So once upon a time way out in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.
Historical Data: Proto-Sinatic Alphabet
Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE
Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after
Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform
Akkadian Cuneiform after Sumerian Conquest.
An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.
Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.
Throughout the ANE, Babylon, Egypt.etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.
The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.
The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.
Moral Realtivist may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?
Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, lo those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.
The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.
The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Book of Yahwehs/Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.
Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.
Of all the ANE Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.
Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.
The Jews have an unshakable faith.
The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
From the Alphabet Effect and the Oxford Companion to the Brain/Mind
East/Right...............................West/Left
Ideograms........................................Alphabet
Right brain oriented.............................Left Brain Oriented
Non-Linear........................................Linear
Acoustical.........................................Visual
Analogical.........................................Logical
Inductive..........................................Deductive
Concrete...........................................Abstract
Mystical............................................Causal
Intuitive...........................................Rational
Generalist.........................................Specialist
Decentralized......................................Centralized
Local................................................Universal
Integrative.........................................Fragmented
Space Oriented....................................Time Oriented
Traditional.........................................Progressive
Cyclic Time........................................Continuous Time
Algebraic...........................................Geometric
Concrete Science..................................Abstract Science
Order & Pattern....................................Natural Law
Craft.................................................Technology
Invention............................................Exploitation
Technique...........................................System
Customs-Mores (confucious)......................Codified Law
Harmony of Nature (Tao)..........................Monotheism
Relativity............................................Absolutism
The Human Brain has three evolutionary layers.
1: The Reptilian Brain=Instinctual
2: The Paleo-Mammalian= generates Emotions
3: The Cerebral NeoCortex=Imagination, Intelligence-Right and Left Hemispheres, Corpus Callosum-capable of Art & Physics
The three brains in one operate like three interconnected biological computers, each with its own subjectivity, its own special intelligence, and its own sense of Time & Space.
The Atavistic Human Reptilian Brain-The R-Complex, contains Programmes that are rigid, compulsive, ritualistic and paranoid.
The Paleo-Mammalian Brain-The Limbic System is the seat of archaic emotions that drive feeding, fleeing, fighting, and sex-they ensure survival.
All emotions are either pleasant or unpleasant-Pleasure & Pain are the two criteria of Judgement of the Limbic System, judges all experience.
Of the two cortical Hemispheres the Right Brain is in more direct communication with the archaic reptilian instincts and primative mammalian emotions.
An instinct permits no variation in an organisms response to a specific stimulus-Instincts are 'Hard Wired' forcing the organism to respond reflexively & repititously to any particular stimulus.
In mammals emotions may be considered the truncated remnants of reptilian instincts.
A specific stimulus detected by mammalian sensory apparatus always activates the same release of complex chains of neuro-transmitters and hormones.
Emotions impels mammals and hyper-conscious primates to commit repetitive instinctual behavioural patterns.
Fear impels flight or fight responses, hate, anger, jealousy impels them to kill, envy and greed impel them to steal, lust will impel them to cast aside caution and behave in a manner that could compromise their safety and/or survival.
Be that as it may-mammals have more complex brains then reptiles and can make decisions, and are therefore capable of making choosing between different responses.
Humans, due to the development/gift of the Cerebral Cortex; have Freewill, which enables us to override our emotions and modulate our response to environmental provocations.
* Humans have many choices
* Mammals have few
* Reptiles have none at all
Characteristics of the Right Brain
BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS-MUSIC
"All At Once" 'Holistic' 'Gestalt'
Characteristics of the Left Brain
DOING-WORDS-ABSTRACT THINKING-NUMBER SENSE
"One at a time" Abstract, Linear, Sequential
RIGHT BRAIN
1: 'BEING': appreciates 'Feeling State'--complex expressions of emotions-Laughter-Faith-Patriotism-Ectasy-Grief-Love--Etc..Aesthetic Appreciation and Harmony.
There is no precise nomenclature for 'Feeling State', they are subjective, they cannot be precisely enumerated in scientific language, they remain ambiguous. They are: NONDISCURSIVE.
'Feeling States' are Non-Logical; they confute the rules of conventional reasoning.
As Blaise Pascal so succinctly put it: "Le Couer a ses raisons que la raison ne connait pas" The heart has reasons that reason will never know...........
'Feeling States' are authentic, the experience of Love, Hate, Joy, Grief, are known with an internal authority that is beyond the Realm of Debate.
The essence of a 'Joke', Faith in a God, Patriotism, Love are non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.
Intuition/Hunches, or why an object/subject is beautiful to one person but not to another.
Each 'Feeling state' lies beyond the tight circle of logic. When compelled to explain affective States, people usually rely upon that old tautological response: 'It is because it is'.
'Feeling States' do not progress in a linear process, Getting a Joke, Intuitive Insights come out of nowhere, Love at first sight, religious conversions ala Damascus Road are -"All at Once".
2: Images-Comprehension of Images--The Right Hemisphere takes in the 'Big Picture' in a holistic manner, it appreciates the relationship of the parts to the whole. The Right Brain assimilates Images as Gestalts-seeing 'All at Once'.
3: Metaphor: A mental innovation arising out of a unique combination of 'Feeling States' and Images.
Greek Root-Meta=Over and Above-Meta-normal
Phor-Pherein=to bear across
A Metaphor allows/causes the 'Leap' across the chas of one thought to another thought. Metaphors have several different levels of meaning simutaneously (All at Once) perceived and supplies plasticity to otherwise rigid language.
Communicating any affective, emotional 'Feeling State' requires the usage of Metaphor because the so called objective world can be described, measured and catalogued with scientific precision, the internal, subjective world of emotions eludes precise Scientific Analysis.
The verbal art of metaphor is poetry.
Metaphors linguistic cousins are: Similies, analogies, allegories, proverbs and parables. Each allow simultaneous levels of interpreting one single set of words.
Dream Interpretation, Myths, Religions, Dreaming is Right Brain-it is said Dreams are to the individual; what myths and myths are to the society.
The most potent combination of Metaphor & Image is Art.
Visual Art is non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.
the Artistes device is to use visual metaphor to transport a viewer from a neutral affective state to complex 'Feeling States'.
Awe, Shock, Pleasure, ............
When the Artiste is successful the viewer is Transported Metaphorically 'Bearing' us 'across and above'. There is no Transitory State, it is an 'All at Once', Quantuum Leap. That is Great Art, it is Successful.
4: Music-Ability to appreciate and create music is Right Brain. The appreciation of music is an emotion we share with more primative animals.
I lived with two Shar Peis, and everytime I would play Jean Pierre Rampal and Aleander Lagoya the dogs would come into the room and sit and stare at the speakers, I think the Flute charmed them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwNn2egm1E
Music demonstrates the Right Brains ability to process information as an 'All at Once' holistic gestalt by utilising multiple; incoming; converging determinants and integrating them synthetically.
Simultaneity is th eopposite of linear, sequential time, is unique to the Right Brain whose home ground is the realm of visio-spatial context, correlating parts to a whole whilst intuiting diverse relationships amongst them.
Multiple determinants, multiple emotions, multiple meanings, multiple images and multiple sounds converging into one State can be expressed through the metaphor of Space. The Right Brain excels at the appreciation of spatial dimensions and judging distances.
Driving, Skiing, and Dancing are in the dominion of the Right Brain.
The Right Brains principal attributes: BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS & MUSIC echoe evolutionary techniques used by mammals tp comprehend Reality, All at Once, and are perceived holistically.
left brain
The Left Brains modus operendi is: 'DOING' rather then 'BEING'
An accepted rubric of Brain Laterization is the Respective Hemispheres control the opposite side muscular appendages--Left Brain=Right Hand--Right Brain=Left Hand.
The Act of 'willing' is Left Brain, the Right Hand Throws, Gathers, Fabricates.etc......
Rather then Simutaneity/All at once; what makes us 'Homo Faber' the Toolmaker is our sense of an Abstractm, Linear, Sequential series of 'Steps', 'Moves', 'Processes' that exist in Linear sequential Time which is necessary for Craftwork, Hunting etc.
Words-Vocalisations are Left Brain-Language is action Oriented, we abstract, discriminate, analyze and dissect the World into pieces-objects-catagories-that we can then grasp metaphorically and literally. A vocabulary is a Too set by which we act upon the environment.
From the Left Brain issues the generationa nd comprehension of speech with its intricacies of grammar, syntax and semantics.
Speech enables us to not only communicate with others but allows us to talk within ourselves and to ourselves.
Lower Creatures can SIGNAL
Advanced animals can INFORM
Only humans can Question, Dispute and Reason.
Abstract Thinking: This is the ability to process information/Data without the use of Images/Pictures and is the opposite of Metaphorical Thinking.
Words are Image substitutes the mind uses in building Concepts and to solve problems. When Humans evolved beyond thinking in Pictures they made a transformative evolutionary leap.
Previously meaningless phonemes/vocalisations became the words of speech and the tools of abstract thought.
Later when they combined the meaningless letters of an arbitrary alphabet to form visual words to represent the World, they created the Worlds very first Abstract art Form-The Alephbet.
Written Alphabetic Language. The Human Race had combined meaningless sounds with meaningless symbols and and created Civilization!
Abstract Thinking is usually performed within the Context of Causality which evolved from earlier Hominids perceiving, catagorizing the World into Spatial Events occuring in Time. Sunrise/Sunset--High Tide/Low Tide--Spring-Summer-Autumn-Winter.
The Human ability to recognize the intersection of Space & Time may be the precurser condition to recognise Causality and thus Formulate Logic.
The primary benefit of our Species derived from the use of Abstract Thinking was the strengthening of Foresight.
Logic is dependent on the proposition of: If-Then
A hypothetical 'IF' Scenario or idea is formulated in the mind and the placed left of 'NOW' (the past), next a hypothetical 'Then' scenario or idea is placed to the Right of 'NOW' (the future)
One may now apply Forced Logic, and Inductive and DEductive Reasoning to mentally deduce the probability of the 'IF' proposition leading to the 'THEN' proposition and initiate, modify or withold ACTION.
Logic is NOT Holistic, nor is it conceived of as a GESTALT, it depends upon an Abstract Linear Sequence.
IF-THEN Syllogisms are a reliable method of Foretelling/Predicting the Future Events thus replacing Omens, Portents; Oracles, Tarot, Astrology etc....
The Rules of Logic form the foundation of Science, Business and militatary Strategy.
Logical Thinking stands apart from other mental activities like: imagining, intuiting, reflecting, reminiscing, ruminating and daydreaming in that Logical Thinking relies upon a belief in a rigid coordinate system of Absolute Space and Invariant Time-
Number Sense: Ability to count originates in the Visio-Spatial Right Brain, and all higher animals can perceive and separate the concept of 'Oneness'; 'Twoness' and 'Manyness'. The Human ability to manipulate larger numbers is Suis Generis/Unique.
Calculation requires a level of Abstraction beyond the Realm of the Right Brain.
The Left Brain Rules Language and Numbers, the Language of Numbers is Mathematics, which arranges meaningless symbols which represent numbers into simple arithmetic, or into intricate, infinitesimal calculus.
When small children learn the alphabet they also learn mathematics.
The Left Brains innovative features: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are processed in Abstract Linear Sequential Time.
To develop Craftwork Strategy, Language Logic and Mathematics the mind must range back and forth along the line of: Past-Present-Future.
The ability to fashion a Tool arises out of the Left Brain and relies upon the ability to memorize a series of steps in linear sequence.
The dominant hand is a specialized limb that is an extension of sequential Left Hemisphere.
Logic, Algebra, Physics equations all proceed in Time-Line by Line Proofs are the essence of higher math.
A series of numbers is a sequence.
Right Brain: Phylogenetic Learning, vision based and dependent on Space.
Left Brain: Learns Data/Information by rote in sequence-Time.
Right Brain: Holistic, Synthetic integration of Being, Images, Metaphors, Music-Functions: 'ALL AT ONCE'-All can be mapped using the vectors of Space.
Left Brain: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking, and Number sense. Functions: 'ONE AT A TIME' All can be mapped by linear sequential Time.
Being, Metaphor, Image and Music are the Essence of Art.
Doing, reason, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are the essence of Physics
"From the point of view of evolutionary epistemology, the principle lesson of both special and general relativity theories is this: Human /beings are organisms capable of manipulating internal representations of the World by means of concrete operations and can transcend the bounds of their biologically given perceptione. They can liberate themselves and construct a view of reality that conflicts with intuition, yet gives a truer, more encompassing view."
Max Delbruck
"Time & Space are real Beings, a Male & a Female, Time is a Man, Space is a Woman"
William Blake
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:54 pm
Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...
...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...
...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...
THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE
Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.
LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA
National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898
LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...
https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E
Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.
It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.
It is part of the most detailed
topographic map of the world
ever made, according the US space agency NASA .
For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.
NASA noted that Australia
was the flattest continent in the world.
"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic or other geologic forces
of the type that raise the topography of other continents.
"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,
the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world, covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.
...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...and RE-PLANT...and...
COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...
...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...
DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...
Revelation 22:1-21
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.
8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.
11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...
to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:
the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...
YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...
...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...
...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...
THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE
Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.
LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA
National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898
LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...
https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E
Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.
It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.
It is part of the most detailed
topographic map of the world
ever made, according the US space agency NASA .
For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.
NASA noted that Australia
was the flattest continent in the world.
"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic or other geologic forces
of the type that raise the topography of other continents.
"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,
the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world, covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.
...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...and RE-PLANT...and...
COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...
...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...
DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...
Revelation 22:1-21
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.
8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.
11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...
to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:
the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...
YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
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Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 62
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:30 pm
Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...
CURSE JUDAH and BE CURSED.
Well,
GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...
and YOU, KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!
Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...
...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...
...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...
(ah, found it elsewhere
)
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?
...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia
Note: Israel is shown in blue.
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...
The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.
These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.
Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH, STABLE LAND...and SEE,
so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...
YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...
...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...
...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE
Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.
LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA
National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898
LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...
https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E
Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.
It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.
It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made, according the US space agency NASA .
For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.
NASA noted that Australia
was the flattest continent in the world.
"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic or other geologic forces
of the type that raise the topography of other continents.
"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,
the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world, covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.
...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...and RE-PLANT...and...
COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...
...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...
DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...
Revelation 22:1-21
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.
8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.
11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...
to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:
the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...
YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
...I'll see, YOUR POISON FRUIT-LOOPS...and RAISE,
with The GOOD FRUIT (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
that my Faithfulness To THE CREATOR of LIFE,
BLESSED THE WORLD WITH...
How those who dig the pits for others,
fall in them themselves...
Some BEARSTAR's of SWEDEN'S, REX VENTORS...
Magnus and his girls, Sept -05
Tinja equally protective of Angelie
Lovisa using Demi for a pillow
See, I was happy rescuing, healing and re-homing the lost,
but 'they' thought to tempt my pride, and got me a pedigree dog.
But, I didn't want to show (the horse world had cured me of that),
only breed good dogs to put in loving homes, and so my dogs
had to pass my tests (of safe, sound temperaments, and bodies),
in my home, on the farm, out in public, before they were chosen
as breeders.
The showing and world records that followed, were simply,
GOD'S BLESSINGS for Breeding BY HIS LAW...and oh, how
much 'they' HATED me, FOR ALWAYS GIVING ALL CREDIT TO GOD,
when 'they' would badger me for 'the secret' of my success,
that IS NO SECRET, but Published All Over The World; GOD'S WORD.
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...
CURSE JUDAH and BE CURSED.
Well,
GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...
and YOU, KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!
Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...
...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...
...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...
(ah, found it elsewhere
)SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?
...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia
Note: Israel is shown in blue.
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...
The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.
These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.
Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH, STABLE LAND...and SEE,
so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...
YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...
...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...
...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE
Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.
LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA
National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898
LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...
https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E
Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.
It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.
It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made, according the US space agency NASA .
For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.
NASA noted that Australia
was the flattest continent in the world.
"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic or other geologic forces
of the type that raise the topography of other continents.
"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,
the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world, covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.
...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...and RE-PLANT...and...
COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...
...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...
DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...
Revelation 22:1-21
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.
8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.
11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...
to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:
the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...
YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
el kabong wrote:
...I'll see, YOUR POISON FRUIT-LOOPS...and RAISE,with The GOOD FRUIT (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
that my Faithfulness To THE CREATOR of LIFE,
BLESSED THE WORLD WITH...
How those who dig the pits for others,
fall in them themselves...
Some BEARSTAR's of SWEDEN'S, REX VENTORS...
Magnus and his girls, Sept -05
Tinja equally protective of Angelie
Lovisa using Demi for a pillow
See, I was happy rescuing, healing and re-homing the lost,
but 'they' thought to tempt my pride, and got me a pedigree dog.
But, I didn't want to show (the horse world had cured me of that),
only breed good dogs to put in loving homes, and so my dogs
had to pass my tests (of safe, sound temperaments, and bodies),
in my home, on the farm, out in public, before they were chosen
as breeders.
The showing and world records that followed, were simply,
GOD'S BLESSINGS for Breeding BY HIS LAW...and oh, how
much 'they' HATED me, FOR ALWAYS GIVING ALL CREDIT TO GOD,
when 'they' would badger me for 'the secret' of my success,
that IS NO SECRET, but Published All Over The World; GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:LOVE and BLESSINGS
https://youtu.be/pP1CCH7DEQM
CRUFTS 2x R.R. BoB
Ch & Sw Ch Rex Ventors Farrah at Nyassa
in that Pedigree...[/size]
http://www.nyassa.co.uk/c%20litter.htm
...see, The Beautiful Thing, was that I didn't want to Show,
only Breed Quality for Future R.R. Lovers, but people were
making terrible dogs 'champion', because they had bugger all
quality to compete with back when I began, which is why I went
to a local show, just to see a few others and how my first R.R.
(first pedigree anything), compared to others...and from then,
I felt, well, Morally Obligated, to Exhibit R.R.'s of Quality.
The Records, well they were just 'The Cherry on Top',
for doing a good job well, for the right reason.
And The Nice Thing, is that I took my last Specialty Wins,
with my last litter, under this English Judge and Breeder,
Sue Campbell (Nyassa), and years latter, she's Winning CRUFTS
with the Bearstar blood she genuinely fell in love with.
Demi,
(Multi International Titled
Bearstar Diamond Willow,
dam of 17 Champions inc.
Sue Cambell's CRUFTS
2x BoB Winner, "Farrah")
10 years after I sent her to Sweden,
closest to the camera,
posing with sister Tinja. Summer 2006.
http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/257/337/
http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/32/71/
Gr Ch Bearstar Ko CD FC ROM
Eilack Apollo x Ch Ujamaa Ceres
20 Jan 1992 - 3 Nov 2005
On the 3rd of November 2005 two and half months short of his 14th birthday my
handsome man spent the morning chasing his grand-niece following that delightful
scent he has always loved, when he grew tired he lay down in the green grass in
the sun and quietly slipped away.
Multi Runner Up in Show, Multi Best in Specialty Show, Multi Runner Up in
Specialty Show, two times Melbourne Royal BOB, Brisbane Royal BOB, Toowoomba
Royal BOB, multi Best Headed in Specialty, multi Best Gaited in Specialty, multi
Sire's Progeny, Australia's first Grand Champion RR - Gr Champion Bearstar Ko CD
FC ROM - left me peacefully with great dignity.
He has left a legacy that ensures his name will remain in the RR history books
for generations to come. As Australia's most successful ever sire he has 30
Champions all over the world and others still in the process of taking titles.
He has sired 10 Best in Show winners, 2 Best in Field winners and even a Gold
medal winner in Skijoring (sleddog skiing). His kids have obedience titles and
tracking titles. And many without 'titles' have the very best of accolades -
being best friends and companions to their owners.
Ko was a very special dog - a once-in-a-lifetime soulmate who provided me love
and laughter every day of his life. He has taken a large part of my heart with
him but his spirit will linger always with me and within his children and their
children long after I'm gone.
Farewell Mister Ko - love you big boy. I know you'll be having a ton of fun at
the Bridge catching up with all your 'women' I so look forward to seeing you there.
http://www.starridgerrs.com/about_starridge.html
Ch Ujamaa Ceres "Barney"
(bred -under terms of carrying the Ujamaa Prefix-
and kept by, and bred from, me,
from my first R.R. Ch. Ujamaa Pooh "Teddy")
"Barney" THE QUEEN of Bearstar, "Barkley" and "Chilli",
just 3 of my Bearstar Champs,
(who like "Teddy" and many others,
no one else wanted, and 'experts' said
I was mad for keeping), down home on the farm
oh and "Chilli", "Banyon and "Clare"...
...CH Bearstar White Banyon, was born 'dead' and 'couldn't be revived'
according to the Vet and everyone else who tried to rip him from my
busy hands, half an hour later, when they thought I'd gone mad... but,
they couldn't "SEE" what I could; he to went on to be a Best in Show
and many other top awards winner...and "Clare", sent back home to
LIVE 'like a dog' and for me to show, by her owners, was one of my 3,
Border Terrier of The Year winners (only competed for 3 years in that breed),
and yes they all lived in the house, and ran free in the fields and never
bothered stock
to Pass On Their Quality of SPIRIT. Oh there are plenty of 'trash'
dogs of the Same BLOODlines, but
what God's explained,
and my breeding Proved, is that
IT IS, THE INDIVIDUAL'S SPIRIT,
that separates='makes holy'.
JACOB was blessed. JACOB was a breeder.
This isn't my, "Blessing of Jacob" post,
but it will do...for now...
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el kabong wrote:
Refuting lillys Lies #s 1 & 2
http://geography.about.com/od/lists/a/largecontinent.htm
Largest Continents in Area
1. Asia - 17,139,445 square miles (44,391,162 square km)
2. Africa - 11,677,239 square miles (30,244,049 square km)
3. North America - 9,361,791 square miles (24,247,039 square km)
4. South America - 6,880,706 square miles (17,821,029 square km)
5. Antarctica - About 5,500,000 square miles (14,245,000 square km)
6. Europe - 3,997,929 square miles (10,354,636 square km)
7. Australia - 2,967,909 square miles (7,686,884 square km)
Australia is the Smallest, the Runt Continent.
The map of Europe lilly superimposes on Australia is NOT the whole continent. Compare the Reality as compared to her lie.
Well it is obvious you are Anti-Israel and Antisemitic. Let's see your source for your Area Sizes you Posted. I'm calling your Bluff. Again :thumbs up:
Your Bluff has been called lilly, you've been exposed as a liar.
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true lilly wrote:So, 'el kabong' as you so luuvvv to mis-use the fairy-tale's of men,
to sell the deadly lies of your 'god'...again and again and again,
all over the bloody World Wide Web of Deception, I shall re-post
a few short posts here, to go just a little way towards redressing
the imbalance of how those fairy-tale's are used:At the risk of having you lot go off again, with false claims of,Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:UPDATE:
It's not a mother,it's an 18 year old girl/teeny lady.The police suspect,but
not confirming,that someone entered the premises and attached the
device to her,It goes around the neck (Necklacing) and to another device
around the waist.They have'nt figured out the trigger mechanism,
but she's alone,with the police and everyone else in the family is safe.
Criminal muslim elements suspected,but not confirmed.
It's a suspected extortion. Money. All about money, the usual motive.
But thanks, for letting me know, (via text), that you wanted me to know,
of another 'necklacing'.
Speaking of money;
do you know that what "tintin" sent
his other dumb bunny
(to stick around and try to finish me off),
was only what he would regularly 'tip'
when eating out (most meals),
around $AUS 1000.00 a pop, give or take a few 100;
roughly $AUS6600.00 all up.
Sad thing is, he (the dumb bunny),
claimed to have wanted a simple, family life,
and he could have had that, he knew and admitted it often,
but chose to believe, he would be, 'better rewarded'
by destroying me for 'them'.
That dumb bunny has since lost,
well, just about everything...house, land, super...
And that's what happens
when you give your balls to women to crush,
instead of having the balls to be a man for your woman.
Oh and, you did see "tintin's" Maserati, that he boasts of driving,
and you are aware of his Jet Setting, International,
Opera going life style?
Simply pointing out why I call his dumb bunnies, dumb bunnies.
He 'funds' them with his waiters tips,
and they believe he's 'invested' in 'looking after them',
after the shit, misses the fan, and gets dumped straight on
his dumb bunnies.
So do you get it yet?
Why tintin, literally throwing thousands of Euros at me
to buy a washing machine, while telling me,
I was 'too important to be wasting my time and brain'
(doing the laundry by hand a 4 in the morning),
had me gather them all back up, hand them back,
and remind him he was a guest,
not some, on-line sting...CAN you get it?
I don't find shame in honest work.
I'm happy to do productive work.
And as all the productive work I do around my home, gets destroyed,
I take solace in doing work for others, that won't get undone.
And if I'm offered payment, I want no more than the job was worth.
Likewise, if a job is done for me, and I feel they ask too little,
I'll at least top it up with bountiful praise in the the ears of others,
if not also a cuppa, beer, good feed or whatever else I can honestly offer.
See, Freedom, to me,
is not money, but not being indebted in such a way
that I can't say, 'No', if asked to cross a line,
that would make me someone I'm not.
And, contrary to sod's advice,
I am not someone who "makes contacts".
Granted, there are those who's position requires them
to make and maintain diplomatic associations,
but not being such a one, it's all the more reason
I don't abuse my friendships with such people,
by expecting or asking 'favours' of them...
let alone envying the wealth or positions they hold,
that without fail, draws countless user 'friends'.
In such 'unbalanced' relationships, all I do have to offer
to redress the balance, is a genuine friendship;
one that, 'cares for', not, 'takes from'....
...and why I'm bothering to give a dissertation
on the acts and attitudes that constitute a friendship,
to this audience
well, I can't even recall how I got onto the topic...but I did, and
it's an important topic, so I'll leave it here for others to
ponder...and even challenge me on if they feel the need.
"tintin",the champion of false friendship:
Too poor in spirit, to 'buy' one little woman
with so little of what the worldly desire,
that even the povs mock her;
'mean' enough to go to the expense and trouble of
dropping the threat of, a 'burning necklace', on her,
for caring to show him,
the blessings of the repentant and faithful.
Surely, there must be some out there, who can see that;
a job with a car and fuel card, is not worth the job of,
being a false friend of good people,
for, that false friend, "tintin".
Ok,this is long and you're wanting me to comment on events I've only heard one
side of,let alone,I'm not personally involved with Tintin to be sound of
judgement,but hell,saying you're to important to do hand washing in the
morning and buys a washing machine for you,that's a pretty nice
thing,look,people hurt people,are you sure it's Tintin and not someone
closer to home.
I'll mod this post later,when I sufficiently wake up,have'nt even had a tea yet....just a cigarette.
"'me', making it 'about me'", when that's what all of you keep doing
I will again state, that yes, I do know just how very 'close to home', my attackers are,
and of their International NETworking Partners.
Do you really think I wasn't aware of why my ex, suddenly, had to, fly to Sydney,
before "tintin" flew in; and even lent me his car to drive "tintin" around, something
he would never do when our, HIS and My, kids, NEEDED me to drive for them,
and he was too busy NETworking to care to bother to help them himself?
The husband who was 'chosen' by those even closer, to claim to share my faith,
to ensure my future family would suffer, for having a mother who loves, and
can't blame or deny God.
And that is, The 'class', of people my on-line attackers, serve...a very, very sad truth,
that may yet have some redeeming value, if any of those family members, stop fighting
The Creator God (by attacking those who love Him), and accept The Amazing Grace with which the Truly Repentant Are BLESSED.Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,
And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?
That's sad to me.
But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.
Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.
REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.
ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.
2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.
7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].
10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’
15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”
17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.
23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word
P.S.
constantly repeating your same, proven lies, in other threads, without
showing my detailed posts that prove you to be a very bad liar, then
attacking me for replying with those detailed posts (to only a few of, your spammed,
filthy, lying posts), for 'spamming'
and desperate, to possess any credibility, what so ever.
P.S. besides which, as I'm constantly required to,
manually, go back to the same post, over and over again,
to re-re-re-fix the format to make it legible again
(as I am doing, again, in this edit
any attempt to actually 'spam' (which I don't do),
is made impossible for me, even if I wanted to
dixie d, for this wonderfully timed post, in reply to the fearful desperation of "tintin", "cori" and Co:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2995
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2994
dixie d wrote:04-08-2011, 05:31 AM #29942
Any links to Cube (film)
I'm also wondering if there might be a link from this article...
UK police seize record £300mn cocaine haul and also a link to Bacardi Rum
Quote:
I'd also expect a link to Pepsi
Facund Bacardí i Massó, a Catalan wine merchant, was born in Sitges, Catalonia, (Spain) in 1814, and emigrated to Cuba in 1830.
I notice on the Pepsi wiki page it mentions...
Quote:
Black or White
"Billie Jean", "Bad" and "Black or White". "Black of White"'s was promoting the Dangerous World Tour.)
Quote:
In the Roman calendar, November is the 9th month, and the 9th month in the Gregorian calendar is September.
The song was released by Epic Records on November 11, 1991
So, I'd also expect a link to Rimping
Funny thing, I was just looking at a verse in the Bible, Genisis 4 verse 17, which says the following...
Quote:
On the Black and White wiki page I noticed Get Back and on that page you see the following...
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he
builded a city, and called the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Quote:
I also wonder if there might be a link to Rivers of Babylon
Around the time he was developing the lyrics to "Get Back",
McCartney satirised the "Rivers of Blood speech" by former British
Cabinet minister Enoch Powell in a brief
jam that has become known as the "Commonwealth Song". The lyrics
included a line "You'd better get back to your Commonwealth homes". The
group improvised various temporary lyrics for "Get Back" leading to what
has become known in Beatles' folklore as the "No Pakistanis"
version.[9] This version is more racially charged, and addresses
attitudes toward immigrants in America and Britain: "...don't need no
Puerto Ricans living in the USA"; and "don't dig no Pakistanis taking
all the people's jobs".[10] In an interview in Playboy magazine in 1980,
Lennon described it as "...a better version of 'Lady Madonna'. You
know, a potboiler rewrite."[11]
So, I'm not sure what all that means.
Last edited by dixie d; 04-08-2011 at 06:40 AM.
wow, and the links dixie added to that post...hint:
it does pay to read them them all, from top to bottom,
and deeper within...it's amazing graceful, what one can find...
"The Israelites"
Rivers of Babylon
UK number one single (Boney M version)
13 May 1978 - 10 June 1978
(my 17th birthday;
just after I first arrived in Sydney
)By the rivers of Babylon,
there we sat down, yea, we wept,
when we remembered Zion...
For there they that carried us away captive
required of us a song...
How shall we sing the LORD's song
in a strange land?
Let the words of my mouth,
and the meditation of my heart,
be acceptable in thy sight...
Psalm 19:14
It is one of a few pop songs whose lyrics
come directly from the Bible
(See also Turn! Turn! Turn! by Pete Seeger
and The Lord's Prayer by Sister Janet Mead).
...and yes,
I also remember seeing this movie,
and like those songs,
SEEING and HEARING
GOD'S LOVING and WARNING WORD
, and the mockery of GOD and HIS PROMISES,
that others did
.
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Billy Ruben Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:35 am
You spammed me,that hurt,it's not fair... 
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[quote="true lilly"]
true lilly wrote: my X-Rays:
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true lilly Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:44 pm
Great Blue Hole, Coast of Belize
Royal anthem: God Save the Queen
sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-inca-secrets
...read and SEE...and...UNDERSTAND...
http://stonehengeguide.com/2011/04/29/sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-
inca-secrets/
...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html
PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...
Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...
Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina
...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558
Royal anthem: God Save the Queen
sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-inca-secrets
...read and SEE...and...UNDERSTAND...
http://stonehengeguide.com/2011/04/29/sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-
inca-secrets/
...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html
PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...
Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...
Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina
...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558
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MoMo Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:00 pm
Lilly, Queen of Bullshit of the Runt Continent of Australia!!!! Ahoy!!!!
Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.
Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%
Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.
Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%
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The Scientific and Archaeological AND Historical Evidence refutes Lillys Queen of Bullshit massive Bullshit.
Explain these Lilly, Queen of bullshit, yes; Egypt is in the Bible..
Biblical Archaeology:
Evidence of the Exodus from Egypt
http://www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus.htm
Merneptah Stele
Merneptah pylon at University of Penn Museum
One of the most important discoveries that relate to the time of the Exodus is the Merneptah stele which dates to about 1210 BC. Merneptah, the king of Egypt, boasts that he has destroyed his enemies in Canaan. He states: Plundered is the Canaan with every evil; Carried off is Ashkelon; seized upon is Gezer; Yanoam is made as that which does not exist; Israel is laid waste, his seed is not; (ANET 1969, 378).The word "Israel" here is written in Egyptian with the determinative for people rather than land (ANET 1969, 378 note 18). This implies that Israel did not have a king or kingdom at this time. This would be the time of the judges. The text also implies that Israel was as strong as the other cities mentioned, and not just a small tribe. The south to north order of the three city-states may provide a general location for Israel. There is an interesting place named in Joshua 15:9 and 18:15, "well of waters of Nephtoah," that may be the Hebrew name of Merneptah. The well which is probably anachronistically named after Merneptah would be near Jerusalem. The Egyptian Papyrus Anastasi III contains "The Journal of a Frontier Official" which mentions this well. It says:Year 3, 1st Month of the 3rd Season, Day 17. The Chief of Bowmen of the Wells of Mer-ne-Ptah Hotep-hir-Maat--life, prosperity, health!--which is (on) the mountain range, arrived for a (judicial) investigation in the fortress which is in Sile (ANET 1969, 258).Yurco has recently re-analyzed the Karnak battle reliefs, and has concluded that they should be ascribed to Merneptah and not Ramses II (1990, 21-38). There are four scenes which Yurco correlates with the Merneptah stele. One scene is the battle against the city of Ashkelon which is specifically named. Yurco argues that the other two city scenes are Gezer and Yanoam. He concludes that the open country scene must be Israel. Rainey rejects this view because it shows them with chariots and infantry (1990, 56-60). Lawrence Stager suggests that the small horses pulling the chariot belong to pharaoh's army as in the Ashkelon scene (1985, 58). Rainey thinks the Shasu are Israelites, but others identify the Shasu as Edomites (Stager 1985, 60). Both scholars Yurco and Rainey agree that these battle scenes are from Merneptah's reign (Yurco 1991, 61; Rainey 1992, 73-4; Hess 1993, 134). Before the discovery of the Merneptah stele scholars placed the date of the exodus and entry into Canaan much later. They are now forced to admit that Israel was already in Canaan at the time of Merneptah. Israel was big and strong enough to challenge Egypt in battle. This stele puts a terminus ante quem date of 1210 BC for the exodus (McCarter 1992, 132).
Ancient bowl with curses against their enemies. Metro Museum of Art.
Execration Texts
There are two types of execration texts from the 12th Dynasty of Egypt. The oldest type are inscribed red clay bowls that date to the reign of Sesostris III (1878-1842 BC). The second type, dating a generation or two later (Middle Bronze II, 1800-1630 BC) are clay figurines which list cities along major routes of travel (McCarter 1996, 43). The Egyptians practiced the magical cursing of their enemies by inscribing pottery bowls and figurines with the names of their enemies, and then smashing them to break the power of their enemies. "Iy-'anaq" is named which may be related to the Anaqim or giants who dwelt in Canaan before the conquest (ANET 1969, 328). There is the ruler of "Shutu" named Job. Shutu is probably Moab the sons of Sheth (Numbers 24:17; Ahituv 1984, 184). There are the rulers of Shechem, Hazor, Ashkelon, Laish, Tyre, and Pella ('Apiru-Anu). The ruler of Shamkhuna is Abu-reheni (Abraham). The tribes of 'Arqata and Byblos are mentioned (ANET 1969, 329). Jerusalem is named, but there is no mention of Israel. There is the interesting mention of the personal name "Zabulanu" which is similar to the cuneiform for "Zebulon" (ANET 1969, 329 note 6). This was probably not the son of Jacob, but just a popular name? In Ugaritic zbl is a place name (Gordon 1965, Text 1084:13; Glossary #815). Rohl finds the name Jacob and Joseph (Iysipi, E31), but this is highly questionable (1995, 352; ANET 1969, 329). The Execration texts seems to parallel the time of the patriarchs.
Inscription of Khu-Sebek, Called Djaa
A stele found at Abydos tells about an Asiatic campaign by Sen-Usert III (1880-1840 BC) which says: His majesty proceeded northward to overthrow the Asiatics. His majesty reached a foreign country of which the name was Sekmem. His majesty took the right direction in proceeding to the Residence of life, prosperity, and health. Then Sekmem fell, together with the wretched Retenu (ANET 1969, 230b).Some scholars think "Sekmem" is probably Shechem which is located in a pass between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim. Shechem controlled an important trade route and the fertile valley to the East. It seems that Shechem was a very powerful and important city at the time of the patriarchs. The city was surrounded by massive embankments of earth with mudbrick walls on top. During the 17th century BC a rectangular fortress temple was built with walls 17 feet thick (Toombs 1985, 936; Wright 1962; See Judges 9:46). In the Amarna Letters the king at Shechem was Lab'ayu who was the most important ruler in central Palestine (Na'aman and Aviv 1992, 288). Lab'ayu is accused of going over to the side of the Hapiru. The Hapiru are probably the Hebrews during the time of the Judges. Joshua renews the covenant with Israel's leaders at Mount Ebal (Joshua
and again at Shechem (Joshua 24). Joshua never took Shechem so some scholars think that the Gibeonite deception included the city of Shechem (NIV, Joshua 9). Joseph's bones which were brought out of Egypt were buried at Shechem. There is no mention of Israel in this text.
The Story of Sinuhe
The story of Sinuhe also gives us a background picture about Syria-Palestine life in the Middle Bronze Age which is most likely the patriarchal period. Sinuhe flees Egypt on hearing of the death of King Amenemhet I (1960 BC) and becomes an exile like Moses. His path of flight may have been similar to the Exodus, but his destination was Byblos. He says, "I came up to the Wall-of-the-ruler, made to oppose the Asiatic and to crush the Sand-Crossers....I halted at the Island of Kem-wer. An attack of thirst overtook me" (ANET 1969, 19; Lichtheim 1975, vol.1, 224; Gardiner 1916; Anati 1963, 386; Rainey 1972). This "Wall" is the fortresses on the eastern frontier near the present day Suez Canal. Kem-wer is the area of the Bitter Lakes.The ruler of the Upper Retenu (northern Palestine and southern Syria) then befriended him, and Sinuhe marries his eldest daughter. It is a tribal society which fights over pasture land and wells. One battle is similar to the story of David and Goiath.In his old age Sinuhe is allowed to return to Egypt. He leaves his eldest son in charge of his tribe and all his possessions of serfs, herds, fruit, and trees. Finally, Sinuhe receives a proper burial in a pyramid tomb. This story gives helpful background information, but there is no mention of Israel. There is a Movie called The Egyptian (1954) that tells the story of Sinuhe.
The Hyksos
Hyksos princess crown Tell el-Yahudiyeh ware
It seems most likely that Joseph rose to power during the time of the Hyksos, or just before in the 12th Dynasty when many Asiatics came into Egypt. It also seems most likely that the Exodus from Egypt should be equated with the expulsion of the Hyksos. Not all the Hyksos were Israelites. It says in Exodus that a great mixed multitude came out of Egypt with Moses (Exodus 12:38). The Greek name "Hyksos" was coined by Manetho to identify his fifteenth Dynasty of Asiatic rulers of northern Egypt. The word comes from the Egyptian Hk3(w) h3swt, which means "ruler(s) of foreign countries" (Meyers 1997, 3:133) which Manetho mistranslated as "Shepherd Kings". The Hyksos were of West Semitic background probably from southern Palestine who migrated down into northern Egypt during the 12th and 13th dynasties. At first they lived peacefully with the Egyptians until the deterioration of Egypt's power when in 1648 BC they captured the Egyptian capital at Memphis.
The Hyksos made Avaris their capital which is modern Tell ed-Dab'a, which was later known as Piramesse (Exodus 1:11). "Avaris" is the Greek term for the Egyptian Hwt-w'rt meaning "mansion of the desert plateau" (Meyers 1997 3:134). Other important Hyksos cities were Tell el-Yahudiyeh (meaning "mound of the Jews") known for its distinctive black and white ware, and Tell el-Maskhuta (probably Succoth in Exodus 12:37 NIV note, 13:20).
Store Cities of Pithom and Rameses
Exodus 1:11 states, "So they put slave masters over them to oppress them with forced labor, and they built Pithom and Rameses as store cities for Pharaoh" (NIV).
Professor Hans Goedicke believes that the Biblical city of Ra'amezez is incorrectly equated with Pi-Ramesses. Hershel Shanks writing about Goedicke's view states, "But the fact is that the store city of Ra'amezez cannot be identified with Pi-Ramesses, the Residence of the Ramessides. This identification is impossible phonetically, as has been demonstrated conclusively more than 15 years ago (D.B.Redford, "Exodus I, II", Vetus Testamentum, Vol. 13, pp. 408-413, 1963). Moreover, the Residence of the Ramessides is never denoted in Egyptian sources by the use of the royal name Ramesses alone. When the Residence of the Ramessides is referred to, the royal name is always connected with the Egyptian word pr, meaning house or residence: the reference is always in the form "Per Ramesses" (BAR, September/October 1981, p. 44).
Long before Per Ramesses, in the same area was Avaris the capital of the Hyksos kings and a border town when written in hieroglyphic transliteration is R3-mtny (Khatana) which is today called Tell ed-Dab'a and is being excavated by Manfred Bietak, Director of the Austrian Archaeological Institute in Cairo. The hieroglyphic R3-mtny can be projected back into Semitic transcription as Ramesen. Therefore Shanks concludes, "Biblical Ra'amezez can therefore almost certainly be identified with Tell el-Daba (Ibid.).
Pithom is most likely to be identified with Tell el-Rataba according to Goedicke (Ibid.)
Jacob-El
Yakobher seal from Metro Museum of Art
According to the Turin king list there were six Hyksos kings who ruled for 108 years. One important ruler was named "Y'qbhr" or "Jacob-hr" (Albright 1934, 11). There have been several different translations of this name. Early scholars purposed the meaning of "Jacob-El" as "Jacob is my god", but Albright observed that the name is a name-pattern verb plus theophorous element (1935, 191, n.59; Ward 1976, 358). In Phoenician and Akkadian hr means "mountain". Ward states:Here hr, 'mountain,' appears as a synonym for 'ilu, 'god, much as Hebrew sur, 'rock,' and similar words were used, e.g., Suri-'el, 'El is my rock.' I would thus render Y'qb-hr as '(My) mountain (i.e. god) protects,' which would be identical in meaning to Yahqub-'il (1976, 359).Hr meaning "mountain" or "rock" is identical to the word El or "god". In the Old Testament Zobel proposes:The name (Jacob) is a hyocoristic form of what was originally a theophorous name belonging to the class of statement-names made up of a divine name and the imperfect of a verb. Its full form, not found in the OT, was 'Jacob-El'(1990, 188-9; Shanks 1988, 24-25).
Therefore the name "Jacob" found in the Bible would be the same as the name "Jacob-El" which is found on a number of Hyksos Scarabs. Although this name was common among the Arameans, but uncommon among the Canaanites and Phoenicians (Zobel 1990, 189), R. Weil was the first to connect the Hyksos princes with the Biblical story of Jacob (Kempinski 1985, 134). In 1969 a scarab of Jacob-El was found in the Middle Bronze II tomb at Shiqmona, a suburb of Haifa, that was from a mid-18th century deposit 100-80 years before the Hyksos (Kempinski 1985, 132-3). The Jacob-El of Shiqmona must have been a local Palestinian ruler, possibly the same Jacob of the Bible. According to Genesis 32:23-33 Jacob's name was changed to Israel. Steuernagel was the first to propose the idea of the "Jacob tribe" or "proto-Israelite Jacob group" (Zobel 1990, 194). It may be that the name "Israel" was not officially used until after the conquest of Canaan when a league of 12 tribes was formed. This would help explain the absence of the name "Israel" from early sources. Joseph Austrian Manfred Beitak excavating Tell ed Dab'a, the ancient capital of the Hyksos, between 1984 to 1987 discovered a palace and garden dating back to the 12th Dynasty with a tomb containing a statue of an Asiatic with a mushroom hairstyle that some scholars think might be Joseph (Aling 1995, 33; 1981; Rohl 1995, 327-367). Much more evidence is needed to claim for certain that this is Joseph's tomb (Redford 1970). There is an interesting study done by Barbara Bell on the records of the Nile's water levels. She concluded that in the middle of the 12th Dynasty there were erratic Nile water levels that caused crop failure (Bell 1975, 223-269). Could this be Joseph's famine? There is "The Tradition of Seven Lean Years in Egypt" written during the Ptolemaic period about the reign of Djoser that states: To let thee know. I was in distress on the Great Throne, and those who are in the palace were in heart's affliction from a very great evil, since the Nile had not come in my time for a space of seven years. Grain was scant, fruits were dried up, and everything which they eat was short. Every man robbed his companion (ANET 1969, 31).
The Story of Two Brothers is an Egyptian text that dates to about 1225 BC that is very similar to the story of Joseph. This tale tells how a young man was falsely accused of a proposal of adultery by the wife of his older brother after he had rejected her advances (ANET 1969, 23-25; Lichtheim 1976, 2:203-211). In the 12th Dynasty Egyptian tomb of Khunum-hotep (1890 BC) at Beni Hasan is pictured a caravan of 37 Asiatics arriving in Egypt trading black eye paint (stibium) from the land of Shutu (ANEP 1969, fig. 3). The leader is named Ibsha and bears the title "ruler of foreign lands" from which the name "Hyksos" is derived (ANET 1969, 229). The land of Shutu is probably an ancient term for Gilead (Aharoni 1979, 146). The Ishmaelites who took Joseph down to Egypt came from Gilead through Dothan (Genesis 37:25). In the 13th Dynasty there were a number of Asiatics serving in Egyptian households. One text lists 95 servants from one Theban household with 37 of the names being Asiatics, and at least 28 females (ANET 1969, 553-4; Albright 1955, 222-233). There is a Asiatic women named Sekratu (line 13) which is related to "Issachar." In line 23 an Asiatic woman is called "Asher," and in line 37 another woman is called Aqaba which is related to "Jacob." This may indicate that some of the tribes of Israel were in Egypt at this time. In the Book of Sothis which Syncellus believed was the genuine Manetho it gives the specific time when Joseph rose to power under Hyksos king, Aphophis who ruled 61 years. It says: Some say that this king (Aphophis) was at first called Pharaoh, and that in the 4th year of his kingship Joseph came as a slave into Egypt. He appointed Joseph lord of Egypt and all his kingdom in the 17th year of his rule, having learned from him the interpretation of the dreams and having thus proved his divine wisdom (Manetho 1940, 239). Halpern has concluded, "Overall, the Joseph story is a reinterpretation of the Hyksos period from an Israelite perspective" (1992, 98).
Coffin of Ahmos at Metro Museum of Art
Expulsion of the Hyksos
The earliest document that describes the time of the Hyksos is from the Temple of Hat-shepsut (1486-1469 BC) At Speos Artemidos which says: Hear ye, all people and the folk as many as they may be, I have done these things through the counsel of my heart. I have not slept forgetfully, (but) I have restored that which had been ruined. I have raised up that which had gone to pieces formerly, since the Asiatics were in the midst of Avaris of the Northland, and vagabonds were in the midst of them, overthrowing that which had been made. They ruled without Re, and he did not act by divide command down to (the reign of) my majesty (ANET 1969, 231; Breasted 1988, 122-26; Shanks 1981, 49).The Hyksos worshipped Baal which was associated with the Egyptian god Seth. This led to the neglect of other gods and temples which upset the Egyptians. There is debate over the exact period of time that The Admonitions of Ipuwer describes. The text itself is from the 19th-20th Dynasty. John Van Seters strongly argues for the time of the Hyksos (1966, 103-120). It states: Foreigners have become people everywhere....the Nile is in flood....poor men have become the possessors of treasures....many dead are buried in the river....let us banish many from us....the River is blood (ANET 1969, 441; Lichtheim 1975, 1:151). This sounds similar to the event of the first plague against Egypt (Exodus 7:14-24). The river is not actually blood, but looks blood red because the Nile is flooding. Some speculate that the rest of the plagues are a result of the Nile flooding. The expulsion of the Hyksos was a series of campaigns which started with Kamose who was king in Thebes, and rebelled against the Hyksos. His son Ahmose was finally successful in pushing the Hyksos out. A commander named Ah-mose records in his tomb the victory over the Hyksos. He says: When the town of Avaris was besieged, then I showed valor on foot in the presence of his majesty. Thereupon I was appointed to the ship, 'Appearing in Memphis.' Then there was fighting on the water in the canal Pa-Djedku of Avaris. Thereupon I made a capture, and I carried away a hand. It was reported to the king's herald. Then the Gold of Valor was given to me. Thereupon there was fighting again in this place....Then Avaris was despoiled. Then I carried off spoil from there: one man, three woman, a total of four persons. Then his majesty gave them to me to be slaves. Then Sharuhen was besieged for three years. Then his majesty despoiled it (ANET 1969, 233). Note that Avaris was besieged, there is no mention of how Avaris was taken, and there is no burning of Avaris stated which still fits Josephus' account. Bietak who has been excavating ancient Avaris says that there is no evidence for a violent destruction of Avaris. He states: The archaeological material stops abruptly with the early 18th Dynasty. There are no scarabs of the 18th Dynasty type in Stratum D/2. The most likely interpretation is that Avaris was abandoned. No conflagration layer or corpses of slain soldiers have been found so far in the large and widely separated excavation areas A/II and A/V (Bietak 1988). The end of Avaris may have involved a surrender, or as Josephus has stated, an arranged retreat to Palestine (Against Apion 1.14.88, Bietak 1991, 47).
This exit from Egypt by the Hyksos probably included the Israelites as well. The story of the Exodus is most likely bases on the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt, for there is no other record of any mass exit from Egypt (Robertson 1990, 36; Halpern 1994, 89-96; Redford 1897, 150). The evidence seems to fit well with Josephus' account. Although the Egyptians saw the expulsion of the Hyksos as a great military victory, the Israelites viewed this as a great salvation victory for them. This seems similar to other events recorded in ancient history where both sides claim a great victory. Ramses II battled with the Hittites and almost lost his life, yet he calls this a great victory, but so do the Hittites. In reality it was a stalemate, so they both signed a treaty (ANET 1969, 201; Soggin 1993, 213) Ahab is seen as a powerful king (ANET 1969, 279). Sennacherib claims a great victory over the Jews by taking 46 cities and surrounding Jerusalem. Hezekiah is said to be "like a bird in a cage" (ANET 1969, 288), yet he claims a great victory because Jerusalem is not captured. In the Mesha or Moabite stone (ANET 1969, 320) the king of Moab, Mesha claims a great victory over Israel, yet Israel claims a great victory over Moab (II kings 3:4-27). So it seems that what the Egyptians saw as a great victory over the expulsion of the Hyksos, the Israelites saw as a great exodus victory of salvation.
The Sinai
Archaeological surveys and excavations show that there was very little occupation during the Late Bronze Age (Anati 1986). This seems most likely due to Ahmose's campaign against the Hyksos, and to the Israelites migration to Canaan. The Israelites could not have come out of Egypt in the 14th century because of the lack of archaeological evidence in the Sinai. Two of the most influential German scholars von Rad and Noth argued, "The Exodus and Sinai traditions and the events behind them were originally unrelated to one another" (Nicholson 1973, 1). Von Rad saw the Sitz im Leben of the Sinai covenant in the feast of Tabernacles celebrated at Shechem while the settlement tradition was celebrated at Gilgal with the feast of Weeks. Von Rad also saw Heilsgeschichte (salvation history) strikingly silent about Sinai events (Deut. 26:5b-9). Noth put forth the idea that "early Israel took the form of a tribal league on the analogy of the city-state confederations later attested in Greece and Italy and known to the Greeks as "amphictyonies" (Nicholson 1973, 12-13). On the other hand Weiser vigorously debated the view that the Sinai and Exodus traditions were independent of one another (Nicholson 1973, 33). In 1954 Mendenhall put forth the idea that the Sinai covenant is similar to the Hittite suzerainty treaties (1954, 50-76). Nicholson concludes that one is at an "impasse" since none of these views are convincing (1973, 53). There does seem to be clear parallels between the Sinai covenant and ancient suzerainty treaties, and ancient tribal leagues did exist (Chambers 1983, 39-59). There are various suggestions as to were Mt. Sinai is. De Vaux believes that the theophany of Sinai was a description of a volcanic eruption in northern Arabia (1978, 432-. Exodus 19:18 describes the mountain like a furnace of smoke. From a distance it would look like a pillar of cloud in the day, and a pillar of fire at night. Following this cloud of smoke would lead them right to the volcano. There are no volcanoes in Sinai, but there are several in northern Arabia (Lee 1996, 20). The only known large eruption around this time is Santorini on the Greek island of Thera (Simkin et al. 1981, 111). Professor Goedicke thinks a giant tidal-like wave called a tsunami caused by the eruption of Santorini, destroyed the Egyptian army, and the eruption formed the pillar of cloud and fire in Exodus (Shanks 1981, 42-50; Oren 1981, 46-53). Note that at the time of Ogyges there occurred the first great deluge in Greece. Ogyges "lived at the same time of the Exodus from Egypt" (Eusebius 1981, 524). Maybe a tsunami caused this deluge in Greece? Jewish tradition seems to place Mt. Sinai in Arabia. Demetrius stated that Dedan was Jethro's ancestor which is identified with the oasis of el-'Ela, and when Moses went to Midian he stayed in Arabia (De Vaux 1978, 435). In Josephus' book Antiquities of the Jews he placed Sinai where the city of Madiane was (Antiquities, II.264; III.76). In the Babylonian Talmud (Sotah 5a) R. Huna and R. Hisda say, "the Holy One, blessed be He, ignored all the mountains and heights and caused His Shechinah to abide upon Mount Sinai" (Freedman and Simon 1935, 18-19). According to Old Testament passages Mt. Sinai is identified with Seir and Mt. Paran. Deuteronomy 33:2 says, "The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran" (KJV, see also Judges 5:4-5, Hab. 3:3,7; Axelsson, 1987; Simons 1959). It seems that the itinerary that was followed in Numbers 33:18-36 locates Sinai in northern Arabia. Midian was also located here (I Kings 11:18) where Moses lived with Jethro, priest of Midian, for forty years (Exodus 2:15, 3:1).
TABLE 9
Archaeological Finds in Sinai*
Period & Date Kadesh Barnea Central Negev South Negev Northeast Sinai Southern Sinai
Early Bronze 3200-2200 Dense Dense High Density Dense Egyptian mines
Middle Bronze 2200-1550 Dense Sporadic High Density Dense Egyptian mines
Late Bronze 1550-1200 Sparse Sparse Copper mines Sparse Egyptian mines
Iron I 1200-1000 Sparse Israelite forts & colonies Copper mines Sparse Mining is sparse
*Based on Emmanuel Anati's book Har Karkom: The Mountain of God in 1986.
According to the New Testament, Paul in Galatians 4:25 states, "For this (H)Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia" (KJV). Paul is probably following Jewish tradition that placed mount Sinai in northern Arabia. From Egyptian topographical lists one area the Shasu lived in was Seir. One place is called "land of the Shasu Yhw" (Axelsson 1987, 60). Yhw is used as a toponym, a place-name, which is most likely named after a deity. Yhw corresponds to the Old Testament YHWH, which would make this the earliest known reference. Axelsson concludes, "Thus it is conceivable that the full name of the area in question was Yhw's land, Yhw's city, Yhw's mountain, or the like" (Axelsson 1987, 60). After further study Astour places this city north of Israel in Lebanon (1979, 17-34; for more on the origins of YHWH see, De Moor, 1990, Huffmon, 1971, Murtonen, 1951).
Middle Bronze Age Destruction
The Late Bronze Age begins with the wide spread destruction of the Middle Bronze Age. This may be the result of Ahmose, the Hyksos, or even Israel. There is some question as to how far Ahmose went into Canaan. He did get as far as Sharuhen which a number of scholars think is Tell el-'Ajjul (Rainey 178-85; Shea 1979, 3-5). He besieged it for three years before he took it (ANET 1969, 233). This may be as far as Ahmose got (Hoffmeier 1989). This may also be as far as Israel got. Two years after the Exodus (Numbers 10:11) Israel tried to take Canaan from the South, but failed (Numbers 14:45). This would be at the same time Ahmose was still besieging Sharuhen. Moses may have thought while the Egyptians were keeping the Hyksos of Canaan contained at Sharuhen, that they could conquer the land, but since the Hyksos were strong enough to hold off the Egyptians for three years, they could easily beat Israel. With the defeat of the Hyksos by Ahmose 40 years later Joshua would be able to conquer Canaan, but only a small part of the central highlands was settled by Israel. In the past scholars concluded that Ahmose must have caused the destruction of the Middle Bronze Age, but Reford has shown that Ahmoses' campaign was restricted to Sharuhen and its neighborhood to punish the Hyksos (Redford 1979, 274; Bietak 1991, 58; Weinstein 1981, 1-28). The first substantial campaign against inland Palestine was by Thutmose III (Bietak 1991, 59). From a survey of the central hill country Finkelstein does not connect the Egyptian conquest with the end of the Middle Bronze Age. He states: There is no solid archaeological evidence that many sites across the country were destroyed simultaneously, and such campaigns would fail to explain the wholesale abandonment of hundreds of small rural settlements in the remote parts of the land (Hoffmeier 1990, 87). There are several key cities that will be considered, Jericho, Ai, and Hazor. First of all, is the city of Jericho which is highly controversial about when it was destroyed.
Jericho
Jericho an oasis near the Dead Sea Destruction layer at Jericho
The ancient city of Jericho is identified with Tell es-Sultan. The first large scale excavation was by Sellin and Watzinger from 1907 to 1909. The next major excavation was directed by Garstang from 1930 to 1936. Garstang believed that the fourth city was destroyed by Joshua just after 1400 BC A third major excavation was done by Kenyon between 1952 to 1958. She challenged Garstang's date by insisting that the fourth city double walls were from the Early Bronze Age. Jericho was mainly abandoned during the Late Bronze Age, but the Middle Bronze Age was violently destroyed by fire. Kenyon states: The date of the burned buildings would seem to be the very end of the Middle Bronze Age, and the destruction may be ascribable to the disturbances that followed the expansion (expulsion) of the Hyksos from Egypt in about 1560 BCE (Stern 1993, Vol. 2, 680). Could these disturbances be the Israelite conquest? Both Kenyon and Garstang agree that the Middle Bronze Age city of Jericho was destroyed as a result of the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt. There have been many proposals to solve the time of Joshua's conquest. Courville cuts out over 600+ years by equating the end of the Early Bronze Age with Joshua's conquest around 1400 BC (1971, 151; Bimson 1981, 119). On the other hand Aardsma adds 1,000 years between the book of Judges and I Samuel (1993; Wood 1993, 97). Rohl has subtracted 300+ years from Egyptian history, and James also lowers Egyptian chronology by 250+ years (Rohl 1996; James 1991). One that has been influential in the public is Velikovsky's radical views that deletes 800+ years from history (1950; 1952; Newman 1973, 146-151; Yamauchi 1973, 134-39). Bimson (1981) only lowers the chronology by 100 year, but there is no need to be adding or subtracting years. Equating the Exodus with the Expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt solves this problem. All the archaeological data seems to fit Biblical chronology when this is done, except AI which is highly controversial (See Table 10).
AI
AI has been located at Et-Tell by Albright. A brief excavation was conducted here by Garstang in 1928. A second excavation was done from 1933 to 1935 by Marquet-Krause. A third excavation was conducted by Calloway sponsored by the American Schools of Oriental Research from 1964 to 1970. The major problem here is that AI was destroyed at the end of the Early Bronze Age, and was abandoned until the beginning of the Iron Age, yet Joshua is said to have destroyed it (Stern 1993; Zevit 1985, 58). There are several explanations for this. Livingston locates AI at Khirbet Nisya, yet there is no clear evidence for this (Bimson and Livingston). Yadin interprets the Bible etiologically here (Shanks 1988, 64). It explains how the ruins of AI got this way according to the writer. Millard believes that the villagers would only use Et-Tell as a stronghold when under attack (1985, 99). The name "AI" means "ruin," so AI was destroyed earlier, but reused only as a fort. This seems to be the best explanation.
Hazor
Hazor was a major commercial center. It is mentioned in the Mari documents, and in the Egyptian Execration Texts (Stern 1993, 594). The first major excavation here was by Yadin from 1955 to 1958. Excavations were resumed in 1968 and in 1990. There is speculation that an archive is located in the royal palace (Rabinovich 1996,. This would be a major find, and shed much light on the Late Bronze Age in Israel. The Canaanite city of Hazor has been destroyed several times. The final destruction was at the end of the 13th century which Yadin believes was done by Joshua (Stern 1993). Judges chapter 4 tells about the battle of Deborah and Barak with Jabin the king of Hazor, and his commander Sisera. How could this happen if Hazor was destroyed by Joshua? Bimson thinks that the 13th century destruction of Hazor should be equated with Judges 4 (1981, 181-7). It is wrong to assume that Jabin, king of Hazor is the same person in Joshua 11 and Judges 4. Jabin is probably a dynastic name like Abimelech (Kitchen 1966, 68). A clay tablet with the name Jabin (Ibni) has been found at Hazor (Horowitz 1992, 166). Joshua's conquest of Hazor should be connected with the end of the Middle Bronze Age destruction. Dever places the destruction of Middle Bronze sites from 1550 to 1450 BC (Hoffmeier 1990, 87; Dever 1990, 75-81). This would be at the same time period that Joshua is conquering Canaan. Recent scientific radiocarbon dating of cereal grains from Tell Es-Sultan (Jericho) place the end of the Middle Bronze Age (MB-IIC) around 1540 BC (Bruins and Plicht 1996, 213-14). This would rule out the 1406 BC (Late Bronze Age) date by conservative scholars. Bimson states, "The admittedly poor 'fit' between Biblical tradition and Late Bronze Age archaeological evidence is universally conceded by scholars" (Bimson and Livingston 1987, 41; see Table 11). The problem with Bimson's view is that he eliminates one hundred years from history when there is no need to do this according to radio-carbon dating. New advances in tree ring dating correlated to Carbon 14 will be able to achieve more accurate dates (Bower 1996, 405-6; Renfrew 1996, 733-34; Kuniholm 1996, 780-83).
Egyptian Topographical Lists
Thutmose III
Thutmose and Dr. Meyers at Metro Museum of Art, NYC.
The topographical lists of Thutmose III (ca. 1481 BC) can be divided into two parts; the "Megiddo-list" or "Palestine-list, and the "Naharina-list, or "Northern-list" (Simons 1937, 28). The "Megiddo-list" names towns and places whose chiefs took refuge within the walls of Megiddo, and were taken captive by Thutmose III to Thebes. There are only three copies of this list that contain 119 topographical names (Rainey 1982, 345-359). The "Naharina-list" is just the extension of the "Megiddo-list" containing over 300 place-names. These lists are found in the temple of Amon at Karnak. The lists are probably grouped geographically by regions according to three administrative districts (Aharoni 1979, 158). There were three headquarters during the El Amarna letter which seems to divide this list nicely; Gaza, Sumur, and Kumidi. The first four regions belong to the district of Kumidi; southern Beqa'(#3-11, 55-56), Damascus vicinity (#12-20), Bashan (#21-30), and the northern Jordan valley (#31-4). There are four regions of the Gaza district; the plains of Jezreel (#35-54), the coastal plain and the Sharon (#57-71), Judean hills (#103-6), and the Ephraimite hills (#107-17). The next two regions belong to the district of Sumur; the northern Beqa' (#72-9) and Upper Galilee (#80-102), (Aharoni 1979, 158). North sees the list reflecting the march of Thutmose's army first with numbers 53-119 in the right column, then with numbers 1-52 in the left column (Aharoni 1979, 157). Aharoni sees only a South to North geographic arrangement of place-names along the coastal plain of Sharon (#57-71), (1979, 157). Redford argues for a typical Bronze Age itinerary in numbers 89-101 of the list (1982, 55-74). Hoffmeier does an excellent job of comparing the Annal of Thutmose III with Joshua 1-11 (1994, 165-179; cf. Hess 1996, 160-170; 1994, 191-205; Younger 1990). There are many Old Testament names that are recognized in these lists, but there are two important place-names that effect this study. The first is number 78, Joseph-El, which indicates the tribe of Joseph was already in Canaan before 1481 BC (Redford 1979, 277) which is the 23rd year of Thutmose's coregency (ANET 1969, 235). The second is number 102, Jacob-El, which also indicates the tribes of Israel were already in Canaan at this time. A date earlier than 1481 BC is needed for the Exodus. It may be argued that the name Israel was not yet used at this time until a league of 12 tribes was formed. Others have studied these toponym lists in detail (Giveon 1979, 135-141; Ahituv 1984). Several different locations have been proposed for these palce-names. There are three other interesting name correlations given by Yeivin who states: There is a group of three such names, all connected with the same geographical unit, in which appears also the place-name Jacobel. The first is No. 100, i-i-rw-tw, which could be transcribed 'Ard, and identified in all probability with the Benjamine clan....The second is No. 106 M-(M)-Q-R-W-T, which is transcribed Miqlot (Mikloth), and identified with another Benjaminite clan, descended from the 'Father of Gibeon'....The third place name is No. 108 S3-RW-TY-Y, which is to betranscribed Shelat, and most plausibly identified with Shela, the third and surviving son of Judah by his Canaanite concubine,Bat-shua(1971, 22).
There is an interesting story about how Joppa was captured by soldiers who hid in 200 baskets that were brought into the city on a ruse (ANET 1969, 22). This probably happened on Thutmose III's first campaign.
Amenhotep II
Amenhotep II was the son of Thutmose III who ruled Egypt from 1453-19 BC There are three known military campaigns into the land of Canaan (Aharoni 1979, 166). The lists of prisoners gives a cross-section of the population at that time. Aharoni states: The first group included 550 maryannu (noble chariot warriors), 240 of their wives, 640 Canaanites, 232 royal sons, 323 royal daughters and 270 concubines. A final summary lists: 127 rulers of Retenu, 179 brothers of the rulers, 3600 'apiru, 15,200 living Shasu, 36,300 Huru, 15,070 living Neges, and 30,652 families thereof.... Among the residents of Palestine the Horites account for 66 per cent, the Shasu 27.5 per cent and the 'apiru 6.5 per cent (1979, 168-9; Lemche 1991, 43-46). The Israelites have been associated with both the 'apiru and the Shasu (Akkadian Shutu). Some scholars think the name "Hebrew" came from "'apiru." This does seem to give clear evidence for the Hebrews being settled in Canaan at this time.
Amenhotep III
In the temple of Amon in Soleb (Nubia) there is a topographical list from the time of Amenhotep III (1408-1372 BC). In column IV.A2 is written t3 ssw yhw3 which means "Yahweh of the land of the Shasu" (Giveon 1964, 244; Redford 1992, 272; Astour 1979, 17-34). In the ancient Near East a divine name was also was given to a geographical place where the god was worshipped (Axelsson 1987, 60). This is the first clear extra-biblical evidence of the name "Yahweh." The land of the Shasu may be the same area as the Midianites in the Bible where Moses stayed for 40 years (Axelsson 1987, 61; Giveon 1964a, 415-16). De Vaux says, "Geographers place Midian in Arabia, to the south-east of the Gulf of 'Aqabah" (1978, 332). This also is where Mount Sinai may be located. Astour locates the land in Lebanon (1979, 17). The Shasu were Bedouins who led a nomadic existence. "Shasu" was a general term the Egyptians used to describe any Bedouins East of the Delta. The Egyptians would define certain Shasu according to their location. For example there are the Shasu of Edom (ANET 1969, 259). The word "Shasu" became in Coptic shos meaning "shepherd" (ANET 1969, 259 note 2). It may be that the Israelites when they were wandering in the desert were probably grouped with the Shasu by the Egyptians. Giveon points out marked similarities between the Shasu and the Hebrews (1967, 193-196; Bietak 1987, 169). When they came out of the desert and into the hill country of Palestine, they were probably called Hapiru as in the El Amarna letters instead of Shasu.There is another very interesting name in the temple of Amon in Soleb on Column XA.2 it says, iswr or "Asher" (Giveon 1964, 250). From the position of iswr which is right after qrqms (Carchemish) in the list and before ipttn (column XA4) which may refer to Abez of Issachar (Joshua 19:20), the location of this place would be in northern Palestine. Giveon prefers the translation of "Asher" which may refer to the tribe of Israel. Giveon says, "Les autres toponymes de cette colonne indiquent une region a l'Ouest d'Assur, il est donc preferable d'opter pour Asher" (Translation: The other names in this column indicate a region to the West of Assur, it is therefore preferable to opt for Asher. 1964, 251).
On a statue-base of Amenhotep III at Kom el Hetan which is the funerary temple of Amenhotep III there is a topographical list with the place-name Yspir (Series a:1; Kitchen 1965, 2). This is the same name translated "Joseph-El" in Thutmose III's Topographical list (ANET 1969, 242). After Yspir in both lists the place-name Rkd appears (Series a:2 in Amenhotep III's list, and #79 in Thutmose III's list; Simons 1937, 112). Rkd is the same place-name as Ruhizzi in the El Amarna letters (EA 53:36, 56; EA 5426; EA 56:26; EA 191:2; Rainey 1982, 354). The ruler of Ruhizzi is Arsawuya who seems to be located in northern Palestine or southern Syria (EA 53:36, 56; Moran, 125).
Seti I
Seti I is the founder of the 19th Dynasty whose goal was to revive the Egyptian empire. The kings of the 19th Dynasty identified themselves with the Hyksos religious tradition of worshipping the god Seth (Baal) whom Seti (Seth's Man) was named after. In 1320 BC Seti celebrated the 400th year of the reign of Seth, and the beginning of the Hyksos rule (1720 BC). Ramese II (1279 BC) set up a 7.2 foot high granite monument called "Stele of the Year 400" at Avaris which he renamed Pi-Ramese, "House of Ramese" (ANET 1969, 252-3; Breasted 1988, 3:238-42; McCarter 1996, 46-7). This founding of the Hyksos rule is most likely alluded to in Numbers 13:22 which says, "Now Hebron was built seven years before Zoan (Avaris) in Egypt" (KJV; Mazar 1986, 21; Albright 1957, 242). In Seti's first campaign there is a battle with the Shasu which is pictured on the Karnak reliefs (ANEP 1969, fig. 323-9). The tribal chiefs of the Shasu are gathered on the mountains of kharu (upper Galilee) to fight the Egyptians. It says: The foe belonging to the Shasu are plotting (5) rebellion. Their tribal chiefs are gathered in one place, waiting on the mountain ranges of Kharu. They have taken to clamoring and quarreling, one of them killing his fellow. They have no regard for the laws of the palace (ANET 1969, 254; Breasted 1988, 3:52).
Seti claims victory against "the Shasu from the fortress of Sile to the Canaan" which includes the "Upper Retenu" (ANET 1969, 254; Aharoni 1979, 177; Lemche 1991, 46-48; Giveon 1971). It seems that this general term "Shasu" is referring to the Hebrews who lived in the mountain ranges of upper Galilee. "They have no regard for the laws of the palace" may be because they are following the laws of Moses. "They have taken to clamoring and quarreling" seems to describe the period of the Judges. Note that they have "tribal chiefs" and no king at this time. There is one important name on the topographical list from Karnak, i-s-r (Simons 1937, 147). Aharoni believes that this name is "the earliest reference to the Israelite tribe of Asher. I-s-r (#265) also occurs in Ancient Egyptian Onomastica by Gardiner (1947, 192-3; Paton 1913, 39). A stele of Seti I discovered at Beth-Shean states that the Hapiru from Mount Yarumta with the Tayaru attacked the Asiatics of Rehem (ANET 1969, 255; Rowe 1929, 88-93). Mount Yarumta is probably Jarmuth of the tribe Issachar (Joshua 21:29). It seems that the tribe of Issachar is already in Canaan by this time (1303 BC; Aharoni 1982, 124). Breasted concluded that these Shasu (Bedwin) are the same as the Hapiru of the El Amarna letters. He says, "The attempt of the Hebrews to gain a footing in Palestine is undoubtedly involved in the larger movement of the Bedwin, which Seti here records" (1988, 50). On the next page is a summary of the keys names found in ancient Egyptian topographical lists (Table 12).
Ramses II
Rameses II at U of Penn Museum.
Ramses II came to power in about 1279 BC And reigned for 67 years. A stele from his 9th year was discovered at Beth-shean that mentions the Shasu and the city of Per-Ra-messu which is the same name in Exodus 1:11 (Rowe 1929, 94-98). In the Nubian city of Amara-West the remains of a temple of Ramses was uncovered. A list of 104 Asiatic names were discovered which names places in the Negeb, Edom, the city of Dor, and some think Jericho (Horn 1953, 201-3). One interesting name that was found is yhw which is "Yahweh" in Hebrew (Horn 1953, 201; Giveon 1964, 244). The line reads t3 s3sw yhw which I translate as "Yahweh of the land of the Shasu" (Horn 1953, 201; Giveon 1964, 244; Astour 1979, 17). In reliefs from Luxor the land of Moab (m-w-i-b) and Dibon (t-b-n-i) are first mentioned in Egyptian (Aharoni 1979, 182). In Ramses II's topographical list the place-name "Jacob-El" (#9) appears again (ANET 1969, 242; Simons 1937). The first appearance was in Thutmose III's list. This means that this city of Jacob has been around for two hundred years. Contemporary with Ramses II is "A Satirical Letter" that describes the geography of Canaan. In this letter it mentions "Qazardi, the Chief of Aser" (i-s-r, Asher; ANET 1969, 477).
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Biblical Archaeology:
Evidence of the Exodus from Egypt
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Merneptah Stele
Merneptah pylon at University of Penn Museum
One of the most important discoveries that relate to the time of the Exodus is the Merneptah stele which dates to about 1210 BC. Merneptah, the king of Egypt, boasts that he has destroyed his enemies in Canaan. He states: Plundered is the Canaan with every evil; Carried off is Ashkelon; seized upon is Gezer; Yanoam is made as that which does not exist; Israel is laid waste, his seed is not; (ANET 1969, 378).The word "Israel" here is written in Egyptian with the determinative for people rather than land (ANET 1969, 378 note 18). This implies that Israel did not have a king or kingdom at this time. This would be the time of the judges. The text also implies that Israel was as strong as the other cities mentioned, and not just a small tribe. The south to north order of the three city-states may provide a general location for Israel. There is an interesting place named in Joshua 15:9 and 18:15, "well of waters of Nephtoah," that may be the Hebrew name of Merneptah. The well which is probably anachronistically named after Merneptah would be near Jerusalem. The Egyptian Papyrus Anastasi III contains "The Journal of a Frontier Official" which mentions this well. It says:Year 3, 1st Month of the 3rd Season, Day 17. The Chief of Bowmen of the Wells of Mer-ne-Ptah Hotep-hir-Maat--life, prosperity, health!--which is (on) the mountain range, arrived for a (judicial) investigation in the fortress which is in Sile (ANET 1969, 258).Yurco has recently re-analyzed the Karnak battle reliefs, and has concluded that they should be ascribed to Merneptah and not Ramses II (1990, 21-38). There are four scenes which Yurco correlates with the Merneptah stele. One scene is the battle against the city of Ashkelon which is specifically named. Yurco argues that the other two city scenes are Gezer and Yanoam. He concludes that the open country scene must be Israel. Rainey rejects this view because it shows them with chariots and infantry (1990, 56-60). Lawrence Stager suggests that the small horses pulling the chariot belong to pharaoh's army as in the Ashkelon scene (1985, 58). Rainey thinks the Shasu are Israelites, but others identify the Shasu as Edomites (Stager 1985, 60). Both scholars Yurco and Rainey agree that these battle scenes are from Merneptah's reign (Yurco 1991, 61; Rainey 1992, 73-4; Hess 1993, 134). Before the discovery of the Merneptah stele scholars placed the date of the exodus and entry into Canaan much later. They are now forced to admit that Israel was already in Canaan at the time of Merneptah. Israel was big and strong enough to challenge Egypt in battle. This stele puts a terminus ante quem date of 1210 BC for the exodus (McCarter 1992, 132).
Ancient bowl with curses against their enemies. Metro Museum of Art.
Execration Texts
There are two types of execration texts from the 12th Dynasty of Egypt. The oldest type are inscribed red clay bowls that date to the reign of Sesostris III (1878-1842 BC). The second type, dating a generation or two later (Middle Bronze II, 1800-1630 BC) are clay figurines which list cities along major routes of travel (McCarter 1996, 43). The Egyptians practiced the magical cursing of their enemies by inscribing pottery bowls and figurines with the names of their enemies, and then smashing them to break the power of their enemies. "Iy-'anaq" is named which may be related to the Anaqim or giants who dwelt in Canaan before the conquest (ANET 1969, 328). There is the ruler of "Shutu" named Job. Shutu is probably Moab the sons of Sheth (Numbers 24:17; Ahituv 1984, 184). There are the rulers of Shechem, Hazor, Ashkelon, Laish, Tyre, and Pella ('Apiru-Anu). The ruler of Shamkhuna is Abu-reheni (Abraham). The tribes of 'Arqata and Byblos are mentioned (ANET 1969, 329). Jerusalem is named, but there is no mention of Israel. There is the interesting mention of the personal name "Zabulanu" which is similar to the cuneiform for "Zebulon" (ANET 1969, 329 note 6). This was probably not the son of Jacob, but just a popular name? In Ugaritic zbl is a place name (Gordon 1965, Text 1084:13; Glossary #815). Rohl finds the name Jacob and Joseph (Iysipi, E31), but this is highly questionable (1995, 352; ANET 1969, 329). The Execration texts seems to parallel the time of the patriarchs.
Inscription of Khu-Sebek, Called Djaa
A stele found at Abydos tells about an Asiatic campaign by Sen-Usert III (1880-1840 BC) which says: His majesty proceeded northward to overthrow the Asiatics. His majesty reached a foreign country of which the name was Sekmem. His majesty took the right direction in proceeding to the Residence of life, prosperity, and health. Then Sekmem fell, together with the wretched Retenu (ANET 1969, 230b).Some scholars think "Sekmem" is probably Shechem which is located in a pass between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim. Shechem controlled an important trade route and the fertile valley to the East. It seems that Shechem was a very powerful and important city at the time of the patriarchs. The city was surrounded by massive embankments of earth with mudbrick walls on top. During the 17th century BC a rectangular fortress temple was built with walls 17 feet thick (Toombs 1985, 936; Wright 1962; See Judges 9:46). In the Amarna Letters the king at Shechem was Lab'ayu who was the most important ruler in central Palestine (Na'aman and Aviv 1992, 288). Lab'ayu is accused of going over to the side of the Hapiru. The Hapiru are probably the Hebrews during the time of the Judges. Joshua renews the covenant with Israel's leaders at Mount Ebal (Joshua
and again at Shechem (Joshua 24). Joshua never took Shechem so some scholars think that the Gibeonite deception included the city of Shechem (NIV, Joshua 9). Joseph's bones which were brought out of Egypt were buried at Shechem. There is no mention of Israel in this text. The Story of Sinuhe
The story of Sinuhe also gives us a background picture about Syria-Palestine life in the Middle Bronze Age which is most likely the patriarchal period. Sinuhe flees Egypt on hearing of the death of King Amenemhet I (1960 BC) and becomes an exile like Moses. His path of flight may have been similar to the Exodus, but his destination was Byblos. He says, "I came up to the Wall-of-the-ruler, made to oppose the Asiatic and to crush the Sand-Crossers....I halted at the Island of Kem-wer. An attack of thirst overtook me" (ANET 1969, 19; Lichtheim 1975, vol.1, 224; Gardiner 1916; Anati 1963, 386; Rainey 1972). This "Wall" is the fortresses on the eastern frontier near the present day Suez Canal. Kem-wer is the area of the Bitter Lakes.The ruler of the Upper Retenu (northern Palestine and southern Syria) then befriended him, and Sinuhe marries his eldest daughter. It is a tribal society which fights over pasture land and wells. One battle is similar to the story of David and Goiath.In his old age Sinuhe is allowed to return to Egypt. He leaves his eldest son in charge of his tribe and all his possessions of serfs, herds, fruit, and trees. Finally, Sinuhe receives a proper burial in a pyramid tomb. This story gives helpful background information, but there is no mention of Israel. There is a Movie called The Egyptian (1954) that tells the story of Sinuhe.
The Hyksos
Hyksos princess crown Tell el-Yahudiyeh ware
It seems most likely that Joseph rose to power during the time of the Hyksos, or just before in the 12th Dynasty when many Asiatics came into Egypt. It also seems most likely that the Exodus from Egypt should be equated with the expulsion of the Hyksos. Not all the Hyksos were Israelites. It says in Exodus that a great mixed multitude came out of Egypt with Moses (Exodus 12:38). The Greek name "Hyksos" was coined by Manetho to identify his fifteenth Dynasty of Asiatic rulers of northern Egypt. The word comes from the Egyptian Hk3(w) h3swt, which means "ruler(s) of foreign countries" (Meyers 1997, 3:133) which Manetho mistranslated as "Shepherd Kings". The Hyksos were of West Semitic background probably from southern Palestine who migrated down into northern Egypt during the 12th and 13th dynasties. At first they lived peacefully with the Egyptians until the deterioration of Egypt's power when in 1648 BC they captured the Egyptian capital at Memphis.
The Hyksos made Avaris their capital which is modern Tell ed-Dab'a, which was later known as Piramesse (Exodus 1:11). "Avaris" is the Greek term for the Egyptian Hwt-w'rt meaning "mansion of the desert plateau" (Meyers 1997 3:134). Other important Hyksos cities were Tell el-Yahudiyeh (meaning "mound of the Jews") known for its distinctive black and white ware, and Tell el-Maskhuta (probably Succoth in Exodus 12:37 NIV note, 13:20).
Store Cities of Pithom and Rameses
Exodus 1:11 states, "So they put slave masters over them to oppress them with forced labor, and they built Pithom and Rameses as store cities for Pharaoh" (NIV).
Professor Hans Goedicke believes that the Biblical city of Ra'amezez is incorrectly equated with Pi-Ramesses. Hershel Shanks writing about Goedicke's view states, "But the fact is that the store city of Ra'amezez cannot be identified with Pi-Ramesses, the Residence of the Ramessides. This identification is impossible phonetically, as has been demonstrated conclusively more than 15 years ago (D.B.Redford, "Exodus I, II", Vetus Testamentum, Vol. 13, pp. 408-413, 1963). Moreover, the Residence of the Ramessides is never denoted in Egyptian sources by the use of the royal name Ramesses alone. When the Residence of the Ramessides is referred to, the royal name is always connected with the Egyptian word pr, meaning house or residence: the reference is always in the form "Per Ramesses" (BAR, September/October 1981, p. 44).
Long before Per Ramesses, in the same area was Avaris the capital of the Hyksos kings and a border town when written in hieroglyphic transliteration is R3-mtny (Khatana) which is today called Tell ed-Dab'a and is being excavated by Manfred Bietak, Director of the Austrian Archaeological Institute in Cairo. The hieroglyphic R3-mtny can be projected back into Semitic transcription as Ramesen. Therefore Shanks concludes, "Biblical Ra'amezez can therefore almost certainly be identified with Tell el-Daba (Ibid.).
Pithom is most likely to be identified with Tell el-Rataba according to Goedicke (Ibid.)
Jacob-El
Yakobher seal from Metro Museum of Art
According to the Turin king list there were six Hyksos kings who ruled for 108 years. One important ruler was named "Y'qbhr" or "Jacob-hr" (Albright 1934, 11). There have been several different translations of this name. Early scholars purposed the meaning of "Jacob-El" as "Jacob is my god", but Albright observed that the name is a name-pattern verb plus theophorous element (1935, 191, n.59; Ward 1976, 358). In Phoenician and Akkadian hr means "mountain". Ward states:Here hr, 'mountain,' appears as a synonym for 'ilu, 'god, much as Hebrew sur, 'rock,' and similar words were used, e.g., Suri-'el, 'El is my rock.' I would thus render Y'qb-hr as '(My) mountain (i.e. god) protects,' which would be identical in meaning to Yahqub-'il (1976, 359).Hr meaning "mountain" or "rock" is identical to the word El or "god". In the Old Testament Zobel proposes:The name (Jacob) is a hyocoristic form of what was originally a theophorous name belonging to the class of statement-names made up of a divine name and the imperfect of a verb. Its full form, not found in the OT, was 'Jacob-El'(1990, 188-9; Shanks 1988, 24-25).
Therefore the name "Jacob" found in the Bible would be the same as the name "Jacob-El" which is found on a number of Hyksos Scarabs. Although this name was common among the Arameans, but uncommon among the Canaanites and Phoenicians (Zobel 1990, 189), R. Weil was the first to connect the Hyksos princes with the Biblical story of Jacob (Kempinski 1985, 134). In 1969 a scarab of Jacob-El was found in the Middle Bronze II tomb at Shiqmona, a suburb of Haifa, that was from a mid-18th century deposit 100-80 years before the Hyksos (Kempinski 1985, 132-3). The Jacob-El of Shiqmona must have been a local Palestinian ruler, possibly the same Jacob of the Bible. According to Genesis 32:23-33 Jacob's name was changed to Israel. Steuernagel was the first to propose the idea of the "Jacob tribe" or "proto-Israelite Jacob group" (Zobel 1990, 194). It may be that the name "Israel" was not officially used until after the conquest of Canaan when a league of 12 tribes was formed. This would help explain the absence of the name "Israel" from early sources. Joseph Austrian Manfred Beitak excavating Tell ed Dab'a, the ancient capital of the Hyksos, between 1984 to 1987 discovered a palace and garden dating back to the 12th Dynasty with a tomb containing a statue of an Asiatic with a mushroom hairstyle that some scholars think might be Joseph (Aling 1995, 33; 1981; Rohl 1995, 327-367). Much more evidence is needed to claim for certain that this is Joseph's tomb (Redford 1970). There is an interesting study done by Barbara Bell on the records of the Nile's water levels. She concluded that in the middle of the 12th Dynasty there were erratic Nile water levels that caused crop failure (Bell 1975, 223-269). Could this be Joseph's famine? There is "The Tradition of Seven Lean Years in Egypt" written during the Ptolemaic period about the reign of Djoser that states: To let thee know. I was in distress on the Great Throne, and those who are in the palace were in heart's affliction from a very great evil, since the Nile had not come in my time for a space of seven years. Grain was scant, fruits were dried up, and everything which they eat was short. Every man robbed his companion (ANET 1969, 31).
The Story of Two Brothers is an Egyptian text that dates to about 1225 BC that is very similar to the story of Joseph. This tale tells how a young man was falsely accused of a proposal of adultery by the wife of his older brother after he had rejected her advances (ANET 1969, 23-25; Lichtheim 1976, 2:203-211). In the 12th Dynasty Egyptian tomb of Khunum-hotep (1890 BC) at Beni Hasan is pictured a caravan of 37 Asiatics arriving in Egypt trading black eye paint (stibium) from the land of Shutu (ANEP 1969, fig. 3). The leader is named Ibsha and bears the title "ruler of foreign lands" from which the name "Hyksos" is derived (ANET 1969, 229). The land of Shutu is probably an ancient term for Gilead (Aharoni 1979, 146). The Ishmaelites who took Joseph down to Egypt came from Gilead through Dothan (Genesis 37:25). In the 13th Dynasty there were a number of Asiatics serving in Egyptian households. One text lists 95 servants from one Theban household with 37 of the names being Asiatics, and at least 28 females (ANET 1969, 553-4; Albright 1955, 222-233). There is a Asiatic women named Sekratu (line 13) which is related to "Issachar." In line 23 an Asiatic woman is called "Asher," and in line 37 another woman is called Aqaba which is related to "Jacob." This may indicate that some of the tribes of Israel were in Egypt at this time. In the Book of Sothis which Syncellus believed was the genuine Manetho it gives the specific time when Joseph rose to power under Hyksos king, Aphophis who ruled 61 years. It says: Some say that this king (Aphophis) was at first called Pharaoh, and that in the 4th year of his kingship Joseph came as a slave into Egypt. He appointed Joseph lord of Egypt and all his kingdom in the 17th year of his rule, having learned from him the interpretation of the dreams and having thus proved his divine wisdom (Manetho 1940, 239). Halpern has concluded, "Overall, the Joseph story is a reinterpretation of the Hyksos period from an Israelite perspective" (1992, 98).
Coffin of Ahmos at Metro Museum of Art
Expulsion of the Hyksos
The earliest document that describes the time of the Hyksos is from the Temple of Hat-shepsut (1486-1469 BC) At Speos Artemidos which says: Hear ye, all people and the folk as many as they may be, I have done these things through the counsel of my heart. I have not slept forgetfully, (but) I have restored that which had been ruined. I have raised up that which had gone to pieces formerly, since the Asiatics were in the midst of Avaris of the Northland, and vagabonds were in the midst of them, overthrowing that which had been made. They ruled without Re, and he did not act by divide command down to (the reign of) my majesty (ANET 1969, 231; Breasted 1988, 122-26; Shanks 1981, 49).The Hyksos worshipped Baal which was associated with the Egyptian god Seth. This led to the neglect of other gods and temples which upset the Egyptians. There is debate over the exact period of time that The Admonitions of Ipuwer describes. The text itself is from the 19th-20th Dynasty. John Van Seters strongly argues for the time of the Hyksos (1966, 103-120). It states: Foreigners have become people everywhere....the Nile is in flood....poor men have become the possessors of treasures....many dead are buried in the river....let us banish many from us....the River is blood (ANET 1969, 441; Lichtheim 1975, 1:151). This sounds similar to the event of the first plague against Egypt (Exodus 7:14-24). The river is not actually blood, but looks blood red because the Nile is flooding. Some speculate that the rest of the plagues are a result of the Nile flooding. The expulsion of the Hyksos was a series of campaigns which started with Kamose who was king in Thebes, and rebelled against the Hyksos. His son Ahmose was finally successful in pushing the Hyksos out. A commander named Ah-mose records in his tomb the victory over the Hyksos. He says: When the town of Avaris was besieged, then I showed valor on foot in the presence of his majesty. Thereupon I was appointed to the ship, 'Appearing in Memphis.' Then there was fighting on the water in the canal Pa-Djedku of Avaris. Thereupon I made a capture, and I carried away a hand. It was reported to the king's herald. Then the Gold of Valor was given to me. Thereupon there was fighting again in this place....Then Avaris was despoiled. Then I carried off spoil from there: one man, three woman, a total of four persons. Then his majesty gave them to me to be slaves. Then Sharuhen was besieged for three years. Then his majesty despoiled it (ANET 1969, 233). Note that Avaris was besieged, there is no mention of how Avaris was taken, and there is no burning of Avaris stated which still fits Josephus' account. Bietak who has been excavating ancient Avaris says that there is no evidence for a violent destruction of Avaris. He states: The archaeological material stops abruptly with the early 18th Dynasty. There are no scarabs of the 18th Dynasty type in Stratum D/2. The most likely interpretation is that Avaris was abandoned. No conflagration layer or corpses of slain soldiers have been found so far in the large and widely separated excavation areas A/II and A/V (Bietak 1988). The end of Avaris may have involved a surrender, or as Josephus has stated, an arranged retreat to Palestine (Against Apion 1.14.88, Bietak 1991, 47).
This exit from Egypt by the Hyksos probably included the Israelites as well. The story of the Exodus is most likely bases on the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt, for there is no other record of any mass exit from Egypt (Robertson 1990, 36; Halpern 1994, 89-96; Redford 1897, 150). The evidence seems to fit well with Josephus' account. Although the Egyptians saw the expulsion of the Hyksos as a great military victory, the Israelites viewed this as a great salvation victory for them. This seems similar to other events recorded in ancient history where both sides claim a great victory. Ramses II battled with the Hittites and almost lost his life, yet he calls this a great victory, but so do the Hittites. In reality it was a stalemate, so they both signed a treaty (ANET 1969, 201; Soggin 1993, 213) Ahab is seen as a powerful king (ANET 1969, 279). Sennacherib claims a great victory over the Jews by taking 46 cities and surrounding Jerusalem. Hezekiah is said to be "like a bird in a cage" (ANET 1969, 288), yet he claims a great victory because Jerusalem is not captured. In the Mesha or Moabite stone (ANET 1969, 320) the king of Moab, Mesha claims a great victory over Israel, yet Israel claims a great victory over Moab (II kings 3:4-27). So it seems that what the Egyptians saw as a great victory over the expulsion of the Hyksos, the Israelites saw as a great exodus victory of salvation.
The Sinai
Archaeological surveys and excavations show that there was very little occupation during the Late Bronze Age (Anati 1986). This seems most likely due to Ahmose's campaign against the Hyksos, and to the Israelites migration to Canaan. The Israelites could not have come out of Egypt in the 14th century because of the lack of archaeological evidence in the Sinai. Two of the most influential German scholars von Rad and Noth argued, "The Exodus and Sinai traditions and the events behind them were originally unrelated to one another" (Nicholson 1973, 1). Von Rad saw the Sitz im Leben of the Sinai covenant in the feast of Tabernacles celebrated at Shechem while the settlement tradition was celebrated at Gilgal with the feast of Weeks. Von Rad also saw Heilsgeschichte (salvation history) strikingly silent about Sinai events (Deut. 26:5b-9). Noth put forth the idea that "early Israel took the form of a tribal league on the analogy of the city-state confederations later attested in Greece and Italy and known to the Greeks as "amphictyonies" (Nicholson 1973, 12-13). On the other hand Weiser vigorously debated the view that the Sinai and Exodus traditions were independent of one another (Nicholson 1973, 33). In 1954 Mendenhall put forth the idea that the Sinai covenant is similar to the Hittite suzerainty treaties (1954, 50-76). Nicholson concludes that one is at an "impasse" since none of these views are convincing (1973, 53). There does seem to be clear parallels between the Sinai covenant and ancient suzerainty treaties, and ancient tribal leagues did exist (Chambers 1983, 39-59). There are various suggestions as to were Mt. Sinai is. De Vaux believes that the theophany of Sinai was a description of a volcanic eruption in northern Arabia (1978, 432-
. Exodus 19:18 describes the mountain like a furnace of smoke. From a distance it would look like a pillar of cloud in the day, and a pillar of fire at night. Following this cloud of smoke would lead them right to the volcano. There are no volcanoes in Sinai, but there are several in northern Arabia (Lee 1996, 20). The only known large eruption around this time is Santorini on the Greek island of Thera (Simkin et al. 1981, 111). Professor Goedicke thinks a giant tidal-like wave called a tsunami caused by the eruption of Santorini, destroyed the Egyptian army, and the eruption formed the pillar of cloud and fire in Exodus (Shanks 1981, 42-50; Oren 1981, 46-53). Note that at the time of Ogyges there occurred the first great deluge in Greece. Ogyges "lived at the same time of the Exodus from Egypt" (Eusebius 1981, 524). Maybe a tsunami caused this deluge in Greece? Jewish tradition seems to place Mt. Sinai in Arabia. Demetrius stated that Dedan was Jethro's ancestor which is identified with the oasis of el-'Ela, and when Moses went to Midian he stayed in Arabia (De Vaux 1978, 435). In Josephus' book Antiquities of the Jews he placed Sinai where the city of Madiane was (Antiquities, II.264; III.76). In the Babylonian Talmud (Sotah 5a) R. Huna and R. Hisda say, "the Holy One, blessed be He, ignored all the mountains and heights and caused His Shechinah to abide upon Mount Sinai" (Freedman and Simon 1935, 18-19). According to Old Testament passages Mt. Sinai is identified with Seir and Mt. Paran. Deuteronomy 33:2 says, "The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran" (KJV, see also Judges 5:4-5, Hab. 3:3,7; Axelsson, 1987; Simons 1959). It seems that the itinerary that was followed in Numbers 33:18-36 locates Sinai in northern Arabia. Midian was also located here (I Kings 11:18) where Moses lived with Jethro, priest of Midian, for forty years (Exodus 2:15, 3:1). TABLE 9
Archaeological Finds in Sinai*
Period & Date Kadesh Barnea Central Negev South Negev Northeast Sinai Southern Sinai
Early Bronze 3200-2200 Dense Dense High Density Dense Egyptian mines
Middle Bronze 2200-1550 Dense Sporadic High Density Dense Egyptian mines
Late Bronze 1550-1200 Sparse Sparse Copper mines Sparse Egyptian mines
Iron I 1200-1000 Sparse Israelite forts & colonies Copper mines Sparse Mining is sparse
*Based on Emmanuel Anati's book Har Karkom: The Mountain of God in 1986.
According to the New Testament, Paul in Galatians 4:25 states, "For this (H)Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia" (KJV). Paul is probably following Jewish tradition that placed mount Sinai in northern Arabia. From Egyptian topographical lists one area the Shasu lived in was Seir. One place is called "land of the Shasu Yhw" (Axelsson 1987, 60). Yhw is used as a toponym, a place-name, which is most likely named after a deity. Yhw corresponds to the Old Testament YHWH, which would make this the earliest known reference. Axelsson concludes, "Thus it is conceivable that the full name of the area in question was Yhw's land, Yhw's city, Yhw's mountain, or the like" (Axelsson 1987, 60). After further study Astour places this city north of Israel in Lebanon (1979, 17-34; for more on the origins of YHWH see, De Moor, 1990, Huffmon, 1971, Murtonen, 1951).
Middle Bronze Age Destruction
The Late Bronze Age begins with the wide spread destruction of the Middle Bronze Age. This may be the result of Ahmose, the Hyksos, or even Israel. There is some question as to how far Ahmose went into Canaan. He did get as far as Sharuhen which a number of scholars think is Tell el-'Ajjul (Rainey 178-85; Shea 1979, 3-5). He besieged it for three years before he took it (ANET 1969, 233). This may be as far as Ahmose got (Hoffmeier 1989). This may also be as far as Israel got. Two years after the Exodus (Numbers 10:11) Israel tried to take Canaan from the South, but failed (Numbers 14:45). This would be at the same time Ahmose was still besieging Sharuhen. Moses may have thought while the Egyptians were keeping the Hyksos of Canaan contained at Sharuhen, that they could conquer the land, but since the Hyksos were strong enough to hold off the Egyptians for three years, they could easily beat Israel. With the defeat of the Hyksos by Ahmose 40 years later Joshua would be able to conquer Canaan, but only a small part of the central highlands was settled by Israel. In the past scholars concluded that Ahmose must have caused the destruction of the Middle Bronze Age, but Reford has shown that Ahmoses' campaign was restricted to Sharuhen and its neighborhood to punish the Hyksos (Redford 1979, 274; Bietak 1991, 58; Weinstein 1981, 1-28). The first substantial campaign against inland Palestine was by Thutmose III (Bietak 1991, 59). From a survey of the central hill country Finkelstein does not connect the Egyptian conquest with the end of the Middle Bronze Age. He states: There is no solid archaeological evidence that many sites across the country were destroyed simultaneously, and such campaigns would fail to explain the wholesale abandonment of hundreds of small rural settlements in the remote parts of the land (Hoffmeier 1990, 87). There are several key cities that will be considered, Jericho, Ai, and Hazor. First of all, is the city of Jericho which is highly controversial about when it was destroyed.
Jericho
Jericho an oasis near the Dead Sea Destruction layer at Jericho
The ancient city of Jericho is identified with Tell es-Sultan. The first large scale excavation was by Sellin and Watzinger from 1907 to 1909. The next major excavation was directed by Garstang from 1930 to 1936. Garstang believed that the fourth city was destroyed by Joshua just after 1400 BC A third major excavation was done by Kenyon between 1952 to 1958. She challenged Garstang's date by insisting that the fourth city double walls were from the Early Bronze Age. Jericho was mainly abandoned during the Late Bronze Age, but the Middle Bronze Age was violently destroyed by fire. Kenyon states: The date of the burned buildings would seem to be the very end of the Middle Bronze Age, and the destruction may be ascribable to the disturbances that followed the expansion (expulsion) of the Hyksos from Egypt in about 1560 BCE (Stern 1993, Vol. 2, 680). Could these disturbances be the Israelite conquest? Both Kenyon and Garstang agree that the Middle Bronze Age city of Jericho was destroyed as a result of the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt. There have been many proposals to solve the time of Joshua's conquest. Courville cuts out over 600+ years by equating the end of the Early Bronze Age with Joshua's conquest around 1400 BC (1971, 151; Bimson 1981, 119). On the other hand Aardsma adds 1,000 years between the book of Judges and I Samuel (1993; Wood 1993, 97). Rohl has subtracted 300+ years from Egyptian history, and James also lowers Egyptian chronology by 250+ years (Rohl 1996; James 1991). One that has been influential in the public is Velikovsky's radical views that deletes 800+ years from history (1950; 1952; Newman 1973, 146-151; Yamauchi 1973, 134-39). Bimson (1981) only lowers the chronology by 100 year, but there is no need to be adding or subtracting years. Equating the Exodus with the Expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt solves this problem. All the archaeological data seems to fit Biblical chronology when this is done, except AI which is highly controversial (See Table 10).
AI
AI has been located at Et-Tell by Albright. A brief excavation was conducted here by Garstang in 1928. A second excavation was done from 1933 to 1935 by Marquet-Krause. A third excavation was conducted by Calloway sponsored by the American Schools of Oriental Research from 1964 to 1970. The major problem here is that AI was destroyed at the end of the Early Bronze Age, and was abandoned until the beginning of the Iron Age, yet Joshua is said to have destroyed it (Stern 1993; Zevit 1985, 58). There are several explanations for this. Livingston locates AI at Khirbet Nisya, yet there is no clear evidence for this (Bimson and Livingston). Yadin interprets the Bible etiologically here (Shanks 1988, 64). It explains how the ruins of AI got this way according to the writer. Millard believes that the villagers would only use Et-Tell as a stronghold when under attack (1985, 99). The name "AI" means "ruin," so AI was destroyed earlier, but reused only as a fort. This seems to be the best explanation.
Hazor
Hazor was a major commercial center. It is mentioned in the Mari documents, and in the Egyptian Execration Texts (Stern 1993, 594). The first major excavation here was by Yadin from 1955 to 1958. Excavations were resumed in 1968 and in 1990. There is speculation that an archive is located in the royal palace (Rabinovich 1996,
. This would be a major find, and shed much light on the Late Bronze Age in Israel. The Canaanite city of Hazor has been destroyed several times. The final destruction was at the end of the 13th century which Yadin believes was done by Joshua (Stern 1993). Judges chapter 4 tells about the battle of Deborah and Barak with Jabin the king of Hazor, and his commander Sisera. How could this happen if Hazor was destroyed by Joshua? Bimson thinks that the 13th century destruction of Hazor should be equated with Judges 4 (1981, 181-7). It is wrong to assume that Jabin, king of Hazor is the same person in Joshua 11 and Judges 4. Jabin is probably a dynastic name like Abimelech (Kitchen 1966, 68). A clay tablet with the name Jabin (Ibni) has been found at Hazor (Horowitz 1992, 166). Joshua's conquest of Hazor should be connected with the end of the Middle Bronze Age destruction. Dever places the destruction of Middle Bronze sites from 1550 to 1450 BC (Hoffmeier 1990, 87; Dever 1990, 75-81). This would be at the same time period that Joshua is conquering Canaan. Recent scientific radiocarbon dating of cereal grains from Tell Es-Sultan (Jericho) place the end of the Middle Bronze Age (MB-IIC) around 1540 BC (Bruins and Plicht 1996, 213-14). This would rule out the 1406 BC (Late Bronze Age) date by conservative scholars. Bimson states, "The admittedly poor 'fit' between Biblical tradition and Late Bronze Age archaeological evidence is universally conceded by scholars" (Bimson and Livingston 1987, 41; see Table 11). The problem with Bimson's view is that he eliminates one hundred years from history when there is no need to do this according to radio-carbon dating. New advances in tree ring dating correlated to Carbon 14 will be able to achieve more accurate dates (Bower 1996, 405-6; Renfrew 1996, 733-34; Kuniholm 1996, 780-83). Egyptian Topographical Lists
Thutmose III
Thutmose and Dr. Meyers at Metro Museum of Art, NYC.
The topographical lists of Thutmose III (ca. 1481 BC) can be divided into two parts; the "Megiddo-list" or "Palestine-list, and the "Naharina-list, or "Northern-list" (Simons 1937, 28). The "Megiddo-list" names towns and places whose chiefs took refuge within the walls of Megiddo, and were taken captive by Thutmose III to Thebes. There are only three copies of this list that contain 119 topographical names (Rainey 1982, 345-359). The "Naharina-list" is just the extension of the "Megiddo-list" containing over 300 place-names. These lists are found in the temple of Amon at Karnak. The lists are probably grouped geographically by regions according to three administrative districts (Aharoni 1979, 158). There were three headquarters during the El Amarna letter which seems to divide this list nicely; Gaza, Sumur, and Kumidi. The first four regions belong to the district of Kumidi; southern Beqa'(#3-11, 55-56), Damascus vicinity (#12-20), Bashan (#21-30), and the northern Jordan valley (#31-4). There are four regions of the Gaza district; the plains of Jezreel (#35-54), the coastal plain and the Sharon (#57-71), Judean hills (#103-6), and the Ephraimite hills (#107-17). The next two regions belong to the district of Sumur; the northern Beqa' (#72-9) and Upper Galilee (#80-102), (Aharoni 1979, 158). North sees the list reflecting the march of Thutmose's army first with numbers 53-119 in the right column, then with numbers 1-52 in the left column (Aharoni 1979, 157). Aharoni sees only a South to North geographic arrangement of place-names along the coastal plain of Sharon (#57-71), (1979, 157). Redford argues for a typical Bronze Age itinerary in numbers 89-101 of the list (1982, 55-74). Hoffmeier does an excellent job of comparing the Annal of Thutmose III with Joshua 1-11 (1994, 165-179; cf. Hess 1996, 160-170; 1994, 191-205; Younger 1990). There are many Old Testament names that are recognized in these lists, but there are two important place-names that effect this study. The first is number 78, Joseph-El, which indicates the tribe of Joseph was already in Canaan before 1481 BC (Redford 1979, 277) which is the 23rd year of Thutmose's coregency (ANET 1969, 235). The second is number 102, Jacob-El, which also indicates the tribes of Israel were already in Canaan at this time. A date earlier than 1481 BC is needed for the Exodus. It may be argued that the name Israel was not yet used at this time until a league of 12 tribes was formed. Others have studied these toponym lists in detail (Giveon 1979, 135-141; Ahituv 1984). Several different locations have been proposed for these palce-names. There are three other interesting name correlations given by Yeivin who states: There is a group of three such names, all connected with the same geographical unit, in which appears also the place-name Jacobel. The first is No. 100, i-i-rw-tw, which could be transcribed 'Ard, and identified in all probability with the Benjamine clan....The second is No. 106 M-(M)-Q-R-W-T, which is transcribed Miqlot (Mikloth), and identified with another Benjaminite clan, descended from the 'Father of Gibeon'....The third place name is No. 108 S3-RW-TY-Y, which is to betranscribed Shelat, and most plausibly identified with Shela, the third and surviving son of Judah by his Canaanite concubine,Bat-shua(1971, 22).
There is an interesting story about how Joppa was captured by soldiers who hid in 200 baskets that were brought into the city on a ruse (ANET 1969, 22). This probably happened on Thutmose III's first campaign.
Amenhotep II
Amenhotep II was the son of Thutmose III who ruled Egypt from 1453-19 BC There are three known military campaigns into the land of Canaan (Aharoni 1979, 166). The lists of prisoners gives a cross-section of the population at that time. Aharoni states: The first group included 550 maryannu (noble chariot warriors), 240 of their wives, 640 Canaanites, 232 royal sons, 323 royal daughters and 270 concubines. A final summary lists: 127 rulers of Retenu, 179 brothers of the rulers, 3600 'apiru, 15,200 living Shasu, 36,300 Huru, 15,070 living Neges, and 30,652 families thereof.... Among the residents of Palestine the Horites account for 66 per cent, the Shasu 27.5 per cent and the 'apiru 6.5 per cent (1979, 168-9; Lemche 1991, 43-46). The Israelites have been associated with both the 'apiru and the Shasu (Akkadian Shutu). Some scholars think the name "Hebrew" came from "'apiru." This does seem to give clear evidence for the Hebrews being settled in Canaan at this time.
Amenhotep III
In the temple of Amon in Soleb (Nubia) there is a topographical list from the time of Amenhotep III (1408-1372 BC). In column IV.A2 is written t3 ssw yhw3 which means "Yahweh of the land of the Shasu" (Giveon 1964, 244; Redford 1992, 272; Astour 1979, 17-34). In the ancient Near East a divine name was also was given to a geographical place where the god was worshipped (Axelsson 1987, 60). This is the first clear extra-biblical evidence of the name "Yahweh." The land of the Shasu may be the same area as the Midianites in the Bible where Moses stayed for 40 years (Axelsson 1987, 61; Giveon 1964a, 415-16). De Vaux says, "Geographers place Midian in Arabia, to the south-east of the Gulf of 'Aqabah" (1978, 332). This also is where Mount Sinai may be located. Astour locates the land in Lebanon (1979, 17). The Shasu were Bedouins who led a nomadic existence. "Shasu" was a general term the Egyptians used to describe any Bedouins East of the Delta. The Egyptians would define certain Shasu according to their location. For example there are the Shasu of Edom (ANET 1969, 259). The word "Shasu" became in Coptic shos meaning "shepherd" (ANET 1969, 259 note 2). It may be that the Israelites when they were wandering in the desert were probably grouped with the Shasu by the Egyptians. Giveon points out marked similarities between the Shasu and the Hebrews (1967, 193-196; Bietak 1987, 169). When they came out of the desert and into the hill country of Palestine, they were probably called Hapiru as in the El Amarna letters instead of Shasu.There is another very interesting name in the temple of Amon in Soleb on Column XA.2 it says, iswr or "Asher" (Giveon 1964, 250). From the position of iswr which is right after qrqms (Carchemish) in the list and before ipttn (column XA4) which may refer to Abez of Issachar (Joshua 19:20), the location of this place would be in northern Palestine. Giveon prefers the translation of "Asher" which may refer to the tribe of Israel. Giveon says, "Les autres toponymes de cette colonne indiquent une region a l'Ouest d'Assur, il est donc preferable d'opter pour Asher" (Translation: The other names in this column indicate a region to the West of Assur, it is therefore preferable to opt for Asher. 1964, 251).
On a statue-base of Amenhotep III at Kom el Hetan which is the funerary temple of Amenhotep III there is a topographical list with the place-name Yspir (Series a:1; Kitchen 1965, 2). This is the same name translated "Joseph-El" in Thutmose III's Topographical list (ANET 1969, 242). After Yspir in both lists the place-name Rkd appears (Series a:2 in Amenhotep III's list, and #79 in Thutmose III's list; Simons 1937, 112). Rkd is the same place-name as Ruhizzi in the El Amarna letters (EA 53:36, 56; EA 5426; EA 56:26; EA 191:2; Rainey 1982, 354). The ruler of Ruhizzi is Arsawuya who seems to be located in northern Palestine or southern Syria (EA 53:36, 56; Moran, 125).
Seti I
Seti I is the founder of the 19th Dynasty whose goal was to revive the Egyptian empire. The kings of the 19th Dynasty identified themselves with the Hyksos religious tradition of worshipping the god Seth (Baal) whom Seti (Seth's Man) was named after. In 1320 BC Seti celebrated the 400th year of the reign of Seth, and the beginning of the Hyksos rule (1720 BC). Ramese II (1279 BC) set up a 7.2 foot high granite monument called "Stele of the Year 400" at Avaris which he renamed Pi-Ramese, "House of Ramese" (ANET 1969, 252-3; Breasted 1988, 3:238-42; McCarter 1996, 46-7). This founding of the Hyksos rule is most likely alluded to in Numbers 13:22 which says, "Now Hebron was built seven years before Zoan (Avaris) in Egypt" (KJV; Mazar 1986, 21; Albright 1957, 242). In Seti's first campaign there is a battle with the Shasu which is pictured on the Karnak reliefs (ANEP 1969, fig. 323-9). The tribal chiefs of the Shasu are gathered on the mountains of kharu (upper Galilee) to fight the Egyptians. It says: The foe belonging to the Shasu are plotting (5) rebellion. Their tribal chiefs are gathered in one place, waiting on the mountain ranges of Kharu. They have taken to clamoring and quarreling, one of them killing his fellow. They have no regard for the laws of the palace (ANET 1969, 254; Breasted 1988, 3:52).
Seti claims victory against "the Shasu from the fortress of Sile to the Canaan" which includes the "Upper Retenu" (ANET 1969, 254; Aharoni 1979, 177; Lemche 1991, 46-48; Giveon 1971). It seems that this general term "Shasu" is referring to the Hebrews who lived in the mountain ranges of upper Galilee. "They have no regard for the laws of the palace" may be because they are following the laws of Moses. "They have taken to clamoring and quarreling" seems to describe the period of the Judges. Note that they have "tribal chiefs" and no king at this time. There is one important name on the topographical list from Karnak, i-s-r (Simons 1937, 147). Aharoni believes that this name is "the earliest reference to the Israelite tribe of Asher. I-s-r (#265) also occurs in Ancient Egyptian Onomastica by Gardiner (1947, 192-3; Paton 1913, 39). A stele of Seti I discovered at Beth-Shean states that the Hapiru from Mount Yarumta with the Tayaru attacked the Asiatics of Rehem (ANET 1969, 255; Rowe 1929, 88-93). Mount Yarumta is probably Jarmuth of the tribe Issachar (Joshua 21:29). It seems that the tribe of Issachar is already in Canaan by this time (1303 BC; Aharoni 1982, 124). Breasted concluded that these Shasu (Bedwin) are the same as the Hapiru of the El Amarna letters. He says, "The attempt of the Hebrews to gain a footing in Palestine is undoubtedly involved in the larger movement of the Bedwin, which Seti here records" (1988, 50). On the next page is a summary of the keys names found in ancient Egyptian topographical lists (Table 12).
Ramses II
Rameses II at U of Penn Museum.
Ramses II came to power in about 1279 BC And reigned for 67 years. A stele from his 9th year was discovered at Beth-shean that mentions the Shasu and the city of Per-Ra-messu which is the same name in Exodus 1:11 (Rowe 1929, 94-98). In the Nubian city of Amara-West the remains of a temple of Ramses was uncovered. A list of 104 Asiatic names were discovered which names places in the Negeb, Edom, the city of Dor, and some think Jericho (Horn 1953, 201-3). One interesting name that was found is yhw which is "Yahweh" in Hebrew (Horn 1953, 201; Giveon 1964, 244). The line reads t3 s3sw yhw which I translate as "Yahweh of the land of the Shasu" (Horn 1953, 201; Giveon 1964, 244; Astour 1979, 17). In reliefs from Luxor the land of Moab (m-w-i-b) and Dibon (t-b-n-i) are first mentioned in Egyptian (Aharoni 1979, 182). In Ramses II's topographical list the place-name "Jacob-El" (#9) appears again (ANET 1969, 242; Simons 1937). The first appearance was in Thutmose III's list. This means that this city of Jacob has been around for two hundred years. Contemporary with Ramses II is "A Satirical Letter" that describes the geography of Canaan. In this letter it mentions "Qazardi, the Chief of Aser" (i-s-r, Asher; ANET 1969, 477).
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Exile and Redemption
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Exile and Redemption
I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.
Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.
We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,
"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."
This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.
The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when
"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)
A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.
"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)
Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.
And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."
The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.
Cinderella and her sisters
Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.
Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background
Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.
This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis
Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.
If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.
Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.
This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.
49c: Cinderella, part 3:
The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.
Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.
Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).
We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.
Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.
Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.
Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."
49d: Cinderella, part 4:
Exile and Redemption
The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.
Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:
"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)
This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"
"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)
Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,
"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)
Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.
We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.
The Dry Bones
Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.
"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."
A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:
"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"
Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.
Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:
Exile and Redemption
I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.
Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.
We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,
"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."
This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.
The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when
"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)
A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.
"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)
Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.
And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."
The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.
Cinderella and her sisters
Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.
Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background
Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.
This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis
Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.
If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.
Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.
This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.
49c: Cinderella, part 3:
The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.
Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.
Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).
We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.
Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.
Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.
Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."
49d: Cinderella, part 4:
Exile and Redemption
The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.
Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:
"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)
This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"
"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)
Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,
"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)
Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.
We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.
The Dry Bones
Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.
"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."
A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:
"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"
Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.
Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:
Exile and Redemption
I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.
Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.
We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,
"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."
This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.
The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when
"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)
A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.
"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)
Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.
And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."
The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.
Cinderella and her sisters
Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.
Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
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by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &..
, and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE, i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran,
WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,snoopsnuffleopagus,
list NOT exhaustive.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 62
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:08 am
true lilly wrote:Why don't 'you' all attack 'el kabong' and All of Team Tintin
for ALWAYS, ALL OVER, ALL CONspiracy SITES and 'innocent'
forums, endlessly spamming the same old, long ago proven lies,
INTIMIDATION'S, DEATH THREATS and TERRORIST CODE?
Oh that's right, I get spammed and banned everywhere, because,
I am only one real person, with one old p.c., still standing,
against all odds, against The Global Legion of The Beast.
Interesting though, how many of 'you' on line 'enemies', unite
to preach all the failed religions of man and attack me for showing
what I find in God's Word and asking folk to study and test it,
for themselves.true lilly wrote:An interesting new poster
has appeared on "tintin's" thread...
...right after "yass" posted...
V
...we see...
...stormrider73
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Irkutsk, Siberia
Posts: 37
...who then posted...
...who I find an awful lot like...
...interesting to, that it is on the previous page:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2986
...that "tintin" and his team, start their
blatantly obvious DEFENCE of BREIVIK
and his fellow PUPPETS and HANDLERS
(including clearly marked locals), while
also starting their blatantly obvious call
for ALL OUT WAR AGAINST GOD'S, HOLY,
ETERNAL KINGDOM.
Many clearly angry, clearly foolish (for being
so clearly direct), orders follow...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2987
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2988
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2989
...though, despite knowing nothing of:
stormrider73...
...and not even being able to access,
"all posts by" them, they do seem to,
be hinting at a warning against loyalty,
to the inherently dis-loyal "tintin" and
his team...
..."Those people certainly know each other "
Last edited by stormrider73; 31-07-2011 at 05:09 AM.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2990true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:
P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.GET OFF THE DRUGS. LEARN TO READ.el kabong wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Ok,
Hi Sweetie,
this
thread is as it's title says,you get asked a question,,please answer
without vaguequotes to TNBTN from years ago,,photos of unrelated
topics that just chew up my broadband allocation,straight up answers on
topic,if photographic evidence is to be given,like for example...a car
bombing,in a small country town,ahhh lets say Victoria
State,Australia,maybe town names are Ballarat or Arrarat,that'd be
great,not photos,of a woman parading a dog,that looked completely
different on a cheap mobile phone.
So there's the first question...can you do it???
So, 'your' LOSE/LOSE DEMAND of me is to:
RE-WRITE, FROM SCRATCH, 6 YEARS of work,
RE-ANSWERING 'your' 'questions' that 'you'
KEEP REJECTING AS "lies" WITH 'your' LIES
and NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS...let me think...
...... ...
'you' HAVE MY NUMBER.
'YOU' CAN PERSONALLY QUIZ ME ANY TIME...oh that's right,
'you' ONLY RANG ME TO PREACH 'your/cori's' RELIGIOUS
FEAR OF
soooooo........billyboy, does Gibberish count as a straight answer?
OR SIMPLY STOP LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH,
under YOUR DELUSION that EVERYONE IS AS STUPID
AND EVIL AS "YOU".true lilly wrote:Hey C. UNT...Africa is 'bigger' to...
...'you' SICK F. UCK...
...mmm...CHILLING CHOICE of
3 out of 3 LEAD IMAGE/REPORTS...
Mihag Gedi Farah is seven months old and weighs 3.4kg, about the average
weight of a newborn baby. Famine in Somalia has already killed tens of
thousands and the UN warns numbers will grow. Picture: AP
Read More
Ellie Paxton-Hall, the youngest MasterChef contestant, has been sent home
after last night's cooking challenge and will blog about her time on the
show from 12.30pm today.
Read More
A controversial child beauty pageant from the US starts in Melbourne
today. Do you think these events are child abuse? Debate Susie O'Brien
LIVE from noon today. Picture: Supplied
Read More
...but NOW, 'they' WILL simply point to the first image,
to 'excuse' BABIES BEING TREATED WORSE than the UNluckest
of Show Dogs that C. UNTS like GREENIE/ANIMAL LIBER
TERRORISTS, CAUSE TO BE KILLED, DUE TO THE LAWS
'they' DELIBERATELY INTRODUCE, under The LIE, "welfare".
THE SAME TERRORIST C. UNTS WHO DEFEND CHILD PORN
AND THE CHILD SEX TRADE 'as' "NEEDED" "FREE" "Artistic"
'luuvvving' "EXPRESSIONS".
Yep, it's getting bloody easy to find The Evil Damned
on CONspiracy Forums and All Over The WEB/NET of
FILTHY LIES THAT LEAD TO PERMANENT DEATH.true lilly wrote:And why act as if you don't know
the vast difference between
the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?true lilly wrote:'they' really do lack in creativity, when it comes to
inventing non-existent links to those 'they' ARE
PLOTTING AGAINST.
And insult the minds of EVERY reader.
So very soon after "dixie d's" posted links to
"CLEMENTINE" this fool tries to 'cover' one
poor excuse to post a CODED PLOT/THREAT,
with an even worse 'explanation' of 'reasoning'.
So poor, I thought maybe WIKIPEDIA had changed
facts with lies, AGAIN, but no.
And so, here it is; another VERY ANGRY,
VERY DIRECTLY THREATENING (to those
NOT DECEIVED by the 'smooth' words),post by:pri01 wrote:28-07-2011, 09:33 PM #29850
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninny
i thought to add this here, because this is pretty bizarre
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011...d-and-defaced/
Swagger's been on my mind recently because of this person.
cher lloyd.jpg
Cher Lloyd, was a hit with last year’s x factor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Lloyd
She got through the second round
though with a song that she apparently penned the lyrics to part of it. I
suspect she was coached in this because of the reference to Jerusalem
but can’t be fully sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jooLnnhTrbE
Her first single, or a song from her
new album called swagger jagger, the chorus follows the tune of the
Australian song ‘Oh my darling clementine’, a song related to the gold
rush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Darling,_Clementine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbyG2MrBHk&ob=av2e
May have something to do with the economy.
Maybe related to: the FACT Ballarat alone, produced more gold
than California, and that Australia's Foreign ENEMIES
BITTERLY JEALOUS of The Glorious Land Spiritual Israel Is Blessed With,
that 'they' slave to bring us the evils of 'their' insane WAR AGAINST GOD.
I'd say it also has A LOT to do with these posts that caused
"Billy Ruben & el kabong" to SPAM ALL MY THREADS with LIES &
WAY OFF TOPIC CATS & CRAP in a futile effort to make those
who matter, 'forget' THE NEWS that NONE of 'them' DARE to
cover in "TODAY'S NEWS" at DIF...true lilly wrote:cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826
crosshairs
...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.true lilly wrote:Could Google have caught the Norway killer?
Asher Moses
July 28, 2011
Click to play video
'More openness' will prevent attacks
Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that
Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.
With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?
Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.
Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"
Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches
Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.
He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.
Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.
The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.
"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.
Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.
Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.
Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.
However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.
Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."
Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.
Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".
"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.
"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."
In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.
And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.
"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.
"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."
Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.
And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.
"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.
Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.
Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".
But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.
Google Australia declined to comment.
This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh
sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...true lilly wrote:"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...dixie d wrote: 26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807
I noticed two articles in the News today...
Morocco military plane crash kills 78
And...
Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally
I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...
Quote:
It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.
I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania
The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin
Quote:
A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft.
Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric
imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more
modern.
I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.
28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT
132
Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea
Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down
Related Stories
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Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.
The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.
It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.
A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.
After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.
Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.
Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.
The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.
A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol
A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.
The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS
...and THIS, REALLY GOT 'their' GOAT...P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.
Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.
And why act as if you don't know the vast difference
between the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
Isa 22:20
And it shall come to pass in that day 3117,
that I will call 7121 my servant 5650 Eliakim 471
the son 1121 of Hilkiah 2518:
Isa 22:21
And I will clothe 3847 him with thy robe 3801,
and strengthen 2388 him with thy girdle 73,
and I will commit 5414 thy government 4475
into his hand 3027: and he shall be a father 1
to the inhabitants 3427 of Jerusalem 3389,
and to the house 1004 of Judah 3063.
Isa 22:22
And the key 4668 of the house 1004 of David 1732
will I lay 5414 upon his shoulder 7926;
so he shall open 6605, and none shall shut 5462;
and he shall shut 5462, and none shall open 6605.
Rev 3:7
And 2532 to the angel 32 of the church 1577 in 1722
Philadelphia 5359 write 1125;
These things 3592 saith 3004 he that is holy 40,
he that is true 228, he that hath 2192 the key 2807
of David 1138, he that openeth 455, and 2532
no man 3762 shutteth 2808; and 2532 shutteth 2808,
and 2532 no man 3762 openeth 455;true lilly wrote:Do you see what I see?
Do you wonder why it was done?
Artificial color image
of the Double Helix Nebula,
thought to be generated at the
galactic center by magnetic torsion
1000 times greater than the sun's.
Yep, a STAR of DAVID
circled by 12 more
POINTS of LIGHT.
And if you click on to the full sized image, also...
The Tudor rose
is used as the plant badge of
England.
London 2012 Olympics:
medal designs unveiled
MORE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8665946/London-2012-Olympics-medal-designs-unveiled.html
Now why would a world full of
CONspiracy 'sleuths' keep avoiding,
the topic of the "O" in ZION
(in The Centre of this circle
representing The World),
looking just like OZ, O'ZION,
AUSTRALIA,
even with the 'dot' of the "I" there
for little Tasmania?
Could it be for the same reason 'they' also
keep avoiding the topic of who Australia
can thank for BOOMING while the rest of
the world, is crashing?
Moreover, thou son 1121 of man 120,
take 3947 thee one 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Judah 3063,
and for the children 1121 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
then take 3947 another 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Joseph 3130,
the stick 6086 of Ephraim 669,
and [for] all the house 1004 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
And join 7126 them one 259 to another 259
into one 259 stick 6086;
and they shall become one 259
in thine hand 3027.
Moreover I will make 3772
a covenant 1285 of peace 7965 with them;
it shall be an everlasting 5769 covenant 1285
with them: and I will place 5414 them,
and multiply 7235 them, and will set 5414
my sanctuary 4720 in the midst 8432 of them
for evermore 5769.
My tabernacle 4908 also shall be with them:
yea, I will be their God 430,
and they shall be my people 5971.
And the heathen 1471 shall know 3045
that I the LORD 3068 do sanctify 6942 Israel 3478,
when my sanctuary 4720 shall be in the midst 8432
of them for evermore 5769.
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=37&v=1&t=KJV#top
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.
'You' can't recognize this, 'Billy', because it is a detailed reply to 'your'
false accusations made in lieu of any of 'you' answering any of my
Key Questions, while spamming all my threads with the same old
preaching of mans failed religions, then crying foul at my contextual
information with links for readers to check the sources and follow up
with their own, free thinking, study...something 'you mob' avoid like
the plague and, bitterly curse and attack anyone for daring to do.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 62
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:09 am
true lilly wrote:And I see 'you' have been busy, REMOVING KEY POSTS,
that SHOW why "el kabong" is OBSESSED with posting,
'histories', based ONLY on the DE-BUNKED, WAY TOO SHORT,
DENYING & IGNORING GOD'S WORD FROM THE BEGINNING
that DESCRIBES THE WHOLE WORLD, FROM THE BEGINNING,
"out of Egypy" "time-line" 'archeology'true lilly wrote:...oh please, give it up...yes, I still get hit on by men much younger...Billy Ruben wrote:I was hoping you'd have a laugh Lilly,you get so
much attention,and you're a severely non touch play around type
girl.That picture El Kabong posted definitely was'nt you,I mean,you
describe yourself as a little old lady,...You're only 50-51...Have you
heard of hot milf...No,I spose you have'nt...
Hmmmmmm,or was he
refering to a picture you used as a fund raiser and was pissed off to
find you were'nt the advertised material...?
no, I don't take up the offers...and..."I" am NOT The Topic...
...THIS IS...true lilly wrote:Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,
And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?
That's sad to me.
But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.
Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.
REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.
ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.
2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.
7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].
10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’
15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”
17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.
23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing WordThat's why,cori wrote:
The friggon freemasons own this planet.
I'm just not the Godloving type.
(unlike GOD'S FAITHFUL,
HIDDEN amongst those
YOU SO BITTERLY ENVY),
YOU ARE the
DEATH LOVING type
who HATES,
WISDOM and LIFE.
Psalms 5:1-12
To the director for Ne´hi·loth.
A melody of David.
1
To my sayings do give ear, O Jehovah;
Do understand my sighing.
2
Do pay attention to the sound of my cry for help,
O my King and my God, because to you I pray.
3
O Jehovah, in the morning you will hear my voice;
In the morning I shall address myself to you and be on the watch.
4
For you are not a God taking delight in wickedness;
No one bad may reside for any time with you.
5
No boasters may take their stand in front of your eyes.
You do hate all those practicing what is hurtful;
6
You will destroy those speaking a lie.
A man of bloodshed and deception Jehovah detests.
7
As for me, in the abundance of your loving-kindness
I shall come into your house,
I shall bow down toward your holy temple in fear of you.
8
O Jehovah, lead me in your righteousness by reason of my foes;
Make your way smooth before me.
9
For in their mouth there is nothing trustworthy;
Their inward part is adversity indeed.
Their throat is an opened burial place;
A smooth tongue they use.
10
God will certainly hold them guilty;
They will fall due to their own counsels.
In the multitude of their transgressions let there be a dispersing of them,
Because they have rebelled against you.
11
But all those taking refuge in you will rejoice;
To time indefinite they will cry out joyfully.
And you will block approach to them,
And those loving your name will exult in you.
12
For you yourself will bless anyone righteous, O Jehovah;
As with a large shield, with approval you will surround them.
...read on:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#top
PROVERBS 1 & 2
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
The proverbs of Sol´o·mon the son of David, the king of Israel,
2
for one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding,
3
to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness,
4
to give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man knowledge and thinking ability.
5
A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man
of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction,
6to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7
The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.
8
Listen, my son, to the discipline of your father, and do not forsake the law of your mother.
9
For they are a wreath of attractiveness to your head and a fine necklace to your throat.
10
My son, if sinners try to seduce you, do not consent.
11
If they keep saying: “Do go with us. Do let us
lie in ambush for blood. Do let us lie in concealment for the innocent
men without any cause.
12
Let us swallow them down alive just like She´ol, even whole, like those going down into a pit.
13
Let us find all sorts of precious valuables. Let us fill our houses with spoil.
14
Your lot you ought to cast in among us. Let there come to be just one bag belonging to all of us”—
15
my son, do not go in the way with them. Hold back your foot from their roadway.
16
For their feet are those that run to sheer badness, and they keep hastening to shed blood. 17
For it is for nothing that the net is spread before the eyes of anything owning wings.
18
Consequently they themselves lie in ambush for the very blood of these; they lie in concealment for their souls.
19
Thus are the paths of everyone making unjust profit. It takes away the very soul of its owners.
20
True wisdom itself keeps crying aloud in the very street. In the public squares it keeps giving forth its voice.
21
At the upper end of the noisy streets it calls out. At the entrances of the gates into the city it says its own sayings:
22
“How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience,
and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright
ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge?
23
Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.
24
Because I have called out but YOU keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention,
25
and YOU keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof YOU have not accepted,
26
I also, for my part, shall laugh at YOUR own disaster, I shall mock when what YOU dread comes,
27
when what YOU dread comes just like a storm, and YOUR own
disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times
come upon YOU.
28
At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer;
they will keep looking for me, but they will not find me,
29
for the reason that they hated knowledge, and the fear of Jehovah they did not choose.
30
They did not consent to my counsel; they disrespected all my reproof.
31
So they will eat from the fruitage of their way, and they will be glutted with their own counsels.
32
For the renegading of the inexperienced ones is
what will kill them, and the easygoingness of the stupid is what will
destroy them.
33
As for the one listening to me, he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself,
2
so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment;
3
if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself,
4
if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it,
5
in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God.
6
For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
7
And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield,
8
by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones.
9
In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10
When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul,
11
thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you,
12
to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things,
13
from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness,
14
from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness; 15
those whose paths are crooked and who are devious in their general course;
16
to deliver you from the strange woman, from the foreign woman who has made her own sayings smooth,
17
who is leaving the confidential friend of her youth and who has forgotten the very covenant of her God.
18
For down to death her house does sink and down to those impotent in death her tracks.
19
None of those having relations with her will come back, nor will they regain the paths of those living.
20
The purpose is that you may walk in the way of good people and that the paths of the righteous ones you may keep.
21
For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
22
As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth;
and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.
PSALMS 119: 85 to 128
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85
PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.
...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,
may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...
NEHEMIAH 1, 2 & 3
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV
ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top
PROVERBS 4: 18, 19
But the path 734 of the just 6662
[is] as the shining 5051 light 216,
that shineth 215 more 1980 and
more unto the perfect 3559 day 3117.
The way 1870 of the wicked 7563
[is] as darkness 653:
they know 3045 not
at what they stumble 3782 .
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=18&t=KJV#top
Great Blue Hole, Coast of Belize
Royal anthem: God Save the Queen
sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-inca-secrets
...read and SEE...and...UNDERSTAND...
http://stonehengeguide.com/2011/04/29/sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-
inca-secrets/
...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html
PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...
Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...
Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina
...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:02 am
Quote:
Sounds 'comforting' don't it. "SWEET WORDS THAT TICKLE THE EAR".
There is a reason that ISRAEL was
DELIVERED OUT OF MITSRAYIM, The AMERICAS.
DEATH WORSHIP....that was translated MUCH LATER into Egypt.
Likewise that RAINBOW/FEATHERED SERPENT in common with
both OZ and Ancient America, here in OZ, they WARN that when
it's RAISED AGAIN, ALL HEAVY SHIT HITS THE FAN!
They KNEW what they where escaping, The BEAST'S Rule!
But yes, the FIRST death is into sleep, not that bad, not anything,
just unconsciousness, but "They" twisted it out of truth and turned it
into "justification" for HUMAN SACRIFICE, and ALL the PUSHERS of
that seduction into DEATH WORSHIP, WILL are going to be MIGHTY
BLOODY SORRY when they're Resurrected from that First death,
to FACE GOD and "Have Their Account Settled".
So here again, we have two examples of people considered 'extinct',
due to those DEATH WORSHIPERS of this LAST KINGDOM Age. LOOK
CLOSELY at the face of the AUSTRALIAN standing man in the hat
and the face of the SOUTH AMERICA stone head of 'peoples unknown'.
If you can't SEE the SAME people with the SAME style,
it can only be 'spiritual blindness'.
[quote="true lilly"]Originally Posted by vera susa
(attached image at link below)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1673
7 + 7 + 7 = 21 = 2 + 1 = 3 = TRINITY = TRIANGLE = PYRAMID = EGYPT.
This is a DEATH/SACRIFICE CULT, "JOKE",
because as we know, there are PYRAMIDS,
ALL OVER THE WORLD, but they are mainly like these...
NOT quite "TRIANGLES like the "FAMOUS ONES" in Egypt,
but like these from the Land these people now 'said' to EXTINCT,
lived in. SOUTH AMERICA...
Like these people also 'said' to be EXTINCT,
from TASMANIA of the Land of OZ[ION]...
But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES!
The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM,
is that it causes
the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED
into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE
of
TOES of IRON MINGLED with CLAY,
"as if" it is 'many' of those ages, so
WE MISS ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS
of WARNING,
and HATE and BLAME GOD
for 'not' KEEPING HIS PROMISES
instead of SEEING that in FACT,
HE HAS KEPT THEM ALL!
Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1676
| Originally Posted by cycles of time mayans/aztecs and other indiginious of that region believe that death is just the gateway to another more spiritual plane of life. they honour death. much of the sacrifices that took place were voluntary. and pyramids were the easiest structures to build . its common sense when it comes to architecture. |
There is a reason that ISRAEL was
DELIVERED OUT OF MITSRAYIM, The AMERICAS.
DEATH WORSHIP....that was translated MUCH LATER into Egypt.
Likewise that RAINBOW/FEATHERED SERPENT in common with
both OZ and Ancient America, here in OZ, they WARN that when
it's RAISED AGAIN, ALL HEAVY SHIT HITS THE FAN!
They KNEW what they where escaping, The BEAST'S Rule!
But yes, the FIRST death is into sleep, not that bad, not anything,
just unconsciousness, but "They" twisted it out of truth and turned it
into "justification" for HUMAN SACRIFICE, and ALL the PUSHERS of
that seduction into DEATH WORSHIP, WILL are going to be MIGHTY
BLOODY SORRY when they're Resurrected from that First death,
to FACE GOD and "Have Their Account Settled".
So here again, we have two examples of people considered 'extinct',
due to those DEATH WORSHIPERS of this LAST KINGDOM Age. LOOK
CLOSELY at the face of the AUSTRALIAN standing man in the hat
and the face of the SOUTH AMERICA stone head of 'peoples unknown'.
If you can't SEE the SAME people with the SAME style,
it can only be 'spiritual blindness'.
[quote="true lilly"]Originally Posted by vera susa
(attached image at link below) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1673
7 + 7 + 7 = 21 = 2 + 1 = 3 = TRINITY = TRIANGLE = PYRAMID = EGYPT.
This is a DEATH/SACRIFICE CULT, "JOKE",
because as we know, there are PYRAMIDS,
ALL OVER THE WORLD, but they are mainly like these...
NOT quite "TRIANGLES like the "FAMOUS ONES" in Egypt,
but like these from the Land these people now 'said' to EXTINCT,
lived in. SOUTH AMERICA...
Like these people also 'said' to be EXTINCT,
from TASMANIA of the Land of OZ[ION]...
But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES!
The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM,
is that it causes
the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED
into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE
of
TOES of IRON MINGLED with CLAY,
"as if" it is 'many' of those ages, so
WE MISS ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS
of WARNING,
and HATE and BLAME GOD
for 'not' KEEPING HIS PROMISES
instead of SEEING that in FACT,
HE HAS KEPT THEM ALL!
Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1676
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:36 am
hey, not my fault 'they'/'you' keep digging pits
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
...and another thing...
WHERE IS "THAT" Post in which I comprehensively answered
'el kabong's' SPAMMED LIE that, "I" claimed, Australia to be
'bigger' than other continents?
Not only was that, usual type of 'spin and twist', 'put to' the actual
content, context and message of my posts, clearly false, but it inspired me
to drop a few more HOME TRUTHS as to what sort of bitterly sick, twisted
creatures are obsessed with attacking those who have a giving heart...
...was that what did it; the likely, 'little penis/sloppy vagina', explanation
for 'el kabong's' obsession with "size"?
Surely the extra weight I added to the case I've been making, wouldn't
have caused the deletion of what I've shown and explained to so many,
for so long, as that is all still out there in the public domain...yep, must
have really stung that misplaced personal pride 
, I reckon...
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:and 'the rest of you'...
WAR CAVE: warkave: and 'the rest of you'...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1237-war-cave-warkave-and-the-rest-of-you#18568
...as to any real,
independent people who may stumble in here:
Why SOME HERE keep posting the same,
Unsubstantiated=PROVEN LIES,
as to, what and why, I post, what and how, I do;
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
...but nah,
the dergs are too busy hacking my posts,
to read them
...and another thing...
WHERE IS "THAT" Post in which I comprehensively answered
'el kabong's' SPAMMED LIE that, "I" claimed, Australia to be
'bigger' than other continents?
Not only was that, usual type of 'spin and twist', 'put to' the actual
content, context and message of my posts, clearly false, but it inspired me
to drop a few more HOME TRUTHS as to what sort of bitterly sick, twisted
creatures are obsessed with attacking those who have a giving heart...
...was that what did it; the likely, 'little penis/sloppy vagina', explanation
for 'el kabong's' obsession with "size"?
Surely the extra weight I added to the case I've been making, wouldn't
have caused the deletion of what I've shown and explained to so many,
for so long, as that is all still out there in the public domain...yep, must
have really stung
that misplaced personal pride , I reckon...
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Mizraim means Egypt. Zion is Israel, NOT Australia
MoMo Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:04 am
Mizraim means Egypt. Zion is Israel, NOT Australia
Europe is a LARGER Continent then Australia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense?
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html
Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim
Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).
Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .
The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.
The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.
The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.
The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.
The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.
Bible Dictionary
Mizraim definition
the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.
Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim
Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.
Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).
According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]
According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.
But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.
In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]
However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]
Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)
A. The descendants of Japheth.
1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.
b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.
c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.
d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.
e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.
3. (3) The sons of Gomer.
The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.
b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.
4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).
The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.
B. The descendants of Ham.
1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.
b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.
c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.
The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).
a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”
b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.
i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)
ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”
iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”
iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)
3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.
Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).
4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.
Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.
a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.
b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.
5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.
These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.
C. The descendants of Shem.
1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.
2. (23) The sons of Aram.
The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.
Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).
3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.
Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.
a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.
b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.
4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.
These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.
These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice)
MIZRAIM = EGYPT
You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go.
http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm
The Truth
We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . .
Your LIE!!!!!!!
A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.
If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities.
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries
(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm
These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yet you, yourself; are the persecuter. You lie about the Jews and their Sacred scriptures and you attempt to steal their identity and destiny, without being able to read/write Hebrew. Your ignorance and hubris is appalling Capiche?
Europe is a LARGER Continent then Australia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense?
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html
Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim
Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).
Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .
The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.
The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.
The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.
The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.
The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.
Bible Dictionary
Mizraim definition
the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.
Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim
Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.
Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).
According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]
According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.
But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.
In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]
However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]
Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)
A. The descendants of Japheth.
1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.
b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.
c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.
d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.
e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.
3. (3) The sons of Gomer.
The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.
b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.
4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).
The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.
B. The descendants of Ham.
1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.
b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.
c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.
The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).
a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”
b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.
i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)
ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”
iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”
iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)
3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.
Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).
4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.
Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.
a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.
b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.
5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.
These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.
C. The descendants of Shem.
1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.
2. (23) The sons of Aram.
The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.
Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).
3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.
Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.
a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.
b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.
4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.
These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.
These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice)
MIZRAIM = EGYPT
You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go.
http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm
The Truth
We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . .
Your LIE!!!!!!!
A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.
If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities.
Paul follows his emphatic response with, for I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. . . . What is his point? If God had rejected Israel as His covenant people, then every Israelite would be disqualified from the possibility of being saved; yet he is an Israelite who is saved, and that proves that God has not rejected His people.
To sum up, we have noticed two proofs that God has not rejected Israel as His covenant people:
1. By the very meaning of May it never be! in the way that Paul used it in different contexts.
2. By the fact that Paul was a saved Israelite.
Nevertheless, we'll address several passages that need clarification.
b. Romans 11:1-5
1. I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3. "Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4. But what is the divine response to him? "I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5. In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries
(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm
These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yet you, yourself; are the persecuter. You lie about the Jews and their Sacred scriptures and you attempt to steal their identity and destiny, without being able to read/write Hebrew. Your ignorance and hubris is appalling Capiche?
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
MoMo Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:06 am
Zion/Zionism
JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm
Apparently you don't know shit about 'ZION'.
http://mashiyach.com/
You're claim that Israel is an insignificant strip of sand illuminates your ignorance. Israel is the Left/Western Arm of the fertile Crescent..........the Israelites have even made the southern desert areas bloom due to hard work, a foreign concept to you.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/
You're welcome in advance, 
JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm
Some theologies, e.g., ancient Epicureanism and modern Deism, believe in a god, or gods, but think they have nothing much to do with the world in which we live. Others, like Stoicism, believe that god, or “the divine,” or “the sacred” is simply a dimension of our world, so that “god” and the world end up being pretty much the same thing. Both of these can give birth to practical or theoretical atheism. The first can let its “god” get so far away that he disappears. This is what happened with Marx and Feuerbach in the nineteenth century, allowing the “absentee landlord” of eighteenth-century Deism to become simply an absentee. The second can get so used to various “gods” around the place that it ceases to care much about them. This is what happened with a good deal of ancient paganism in Greece and Rome, until, as Pliny wryly remarks, the arrival of Christianity stirred up pagans to a fresh devotion to their gods.[9]
The Jews believed in a quite different “god.” This god, YHWH, “the One Who Is,” the Sovereign One, was not simply the objectification of forces and drives within the world, but was the maker of all that exists. Several biblical books, or parts thereof, are devoted to exploring the difference between YHWH and the pagan idols: Daniel, Isaiah 40-55, and a good many Psalms spring obviously to mind. The theme is summed up in the Jewish daily prayer: “YHWH our God, YHWH is one!”[10]
Classic Jewish monotheism, then, believed that (a) there was one God, who created heaven and earth and who remained in close and dynamic relation with his creation; and that (b) this God had called Israel to be his special people. This twin belief, tested to the limit and beyond through Israel’s checkered career, was characteristically expressed through a particular narrative: the chosen people were also the rescued people, liberated from slavery in Egypt, marked out by the gift of Torah, established in their land, exiled because of disobedience, but promised a glorious return and final settlement. Jewish-style monotheism meant living in this story and trusting in this one true God, the God of creation and covenant, of Exodus and Return.
This God was utterly different from the pantheist’s “one god.” This is an important point to note: many, including many scholars, have blithely assumed that because Stoics and others talked about “one god” they were saying the same thing as the Jews. This God was also utterly different from the far-away ultra-transcendent gods of the Epicureans. Always active within his world, did he not feed the young ravens when they called upon him?[11]—he could be trusted to act more specifically on behalf of Israel. His eventual overthrow of pagan power at the political would be the revelation of his overthrow of the false gods of the nations. His vindication of his people, liberating them finally from all their oppressors, would also be the vindication of his own name and reputation. In justifying his people, he would himself be justified. In his righteousness, his covenant faithfulness, they would find their own.
This monotheism was never, in our period, an inner analysis of the being of the one God. It was always a way of saying, frequently at great risk: our God is the true God, and your gods are worthless idols. It was a way of holding on to hope. We can see the dynamic of this monotheism working its way out in the manifold crises of second-temple Judaism, with the Maccabees, Judas the Galilean, and above all the two wars of the late 60s and early 130s A.D. revealing how the creational and covenantal theology and worldview remained at work through the period and in different groups.
This God was both other than the world and continually active within it. The words “transcendent” and “immanent,” we should note, are pointers to this double belief, but do not clarify it much. Because this God is thus simultaneously other than his people and present with them, Jews of Jesus’ day had developed several ways of speaking about the activity of this God in which they attempted to hold together, because they dared not separate, these twin truths. Emboldened by deep-rooted traditions, they explored what appears to us a strange, swirling sense of a rhythm of mutual relations within the very being of the one God: a to-and-fro, a give-and-take, a command-and-obey, a sense of love poured out and love received. God’s Spirit broods over the waters, God’s Word goes forth to produce new life, God’s Law guides his people, God’s Presence or Glory dwells with them in fiery cloud, in tabernacle and temple. These four ways of speaking moved to and fro from metaphor to trembling reality-claim and back again. They enabled Jews to speak simultaneously of God’s sovereign supremacy and his intimate presence, of his unapproachable holiness and his self-giving compassionate love.
Best known of all is perhaps a fifth. God’s Wisdom is his handmaid in creation, the firstborn of his works, his chief of staff, his delight. God’s Wisdom is another way of talking about God present with his people in the checkered careers of the patriarchs and particularly in the events of the Exodus. Wisdom becomes closely aligned thereby with Torah and Shekinah.[12] Through the Lady Wisdom of Proverbs 1-8, the creator has fashioned everything, especially the human race. To embrace Wisdom is therefore to discover the secret of being truly human, of reflecting God’s image.[13]............................Out of all this, I have argued in various places that we can, as historians, properly reconstruct Jesus of Nazareth’s sense of vocation. We can study John the Baptist’s vocation, and Paul’s: why should we not study Jesus’? When we do so, we find that dozens and dozens of lines of inquiry converge to produce a well ordered, coherent, historically credible sense of vocation, emerging in central symbolic actions, hinted at in a hundred cryptic and teasing sayings. Jesus believed he was Israel’s Messiah, the one in whom Israel’s history was to be summed up. Jesus believed he would win the messianic victory over the real enemy and would build the true messianic temple through taking Israel’s fate upon himself and going to the cross. Jesus believed that in doing so he was not just pointing to or talking about, but was actually embodying, the return of YHWH to Zion. These, though striking and startling, emerge from the world of Second Temple Judaism like the flower growing suddenly out of the plant. They were not expected, but upon inspection this is where they belonged. All the elements of the package were around somewhere in the culture. They are not, repeat not, a retrojection of later Christian theology, not even of later NT theology, which by and large developed in other legitimate ways. They are only credible, but they are totally credible, as the historically reconstructed mindset of Jesus himself. And they form, not the substance of later atonement and incarnational theology, but its historical starting point.
...............................
.I have argued elsewhere that a central feature of Jewish expectation, and kingdom expectation at that, in Jesus’ time was the hope that YHWH would return in person to Zion. Having abandoned Jerusalem at the time of the exile, his return was delayed, but he would come back at last. Within this context, someone who told cryptic stories about a king or a master who went away, left his servants with tasks to perform, and then returned to see how they were getting on must—not “might,” must point to this controlling, over-arching metanarrative. Of course, the later Church, forgetting the first century Jewish context, read such stories as though they were originally about Jesus himself going away and then returning in a “second coming.” Of course, cautious scholars noticing this, deny that Jesus would have said such things. I propose that here at the heart of Jesus’ work, and at the moment of its climax, Jesus not only told stories about the king, who came back to Zion to judge and to save. He acted as though he thought the stories were coming true in what he himself was accomplishing. This is the context, at last, in which I think it best to approach the question with which this essay began.........................................And Jesus seems to have believed it about himself. The language was deeply coded, but the symbolic action was not. He was coming to Zion, doing what YHWH had promised to do. He explained his action with riddles all pointing in the same direction. Recognize this, and you start to see it all over the place, especially in parables and actions whose other layers have preoccupied us. Why, after all, does Jesus tell a story about a yearning father in order to account for his own behavior?[36] It is this that also accounts for his sovereign attitude to Torah, his speaking on behalf of Wisdom, and his announcement of forgiveness of sins.[37] By themselves none of these would be conclusive. Even if they are allowed to stand as words and actions of Jesus, they remain cryptic. But predicate them of the same young man who is then on his way to Jerusalem to confront the powers that be with the message and the action of the kingdom of God and who tells stories as he does which are best interpreted as stories of YHWH returning to Zion, then you have reached. I believe, the deep heart of Jesus’ own sense of vocation. He believed himself called to do and be what in the scriptures only Israel’s God did and was.
..................................What are we therefore saying about the earthly Jesus? In Jesus himself, I suggest we see the biblical portrait of YHWH come to life: the loving God, rolling up his sleeves (Isa 52:10) to do in person the job that no one else could do, the creator God giving new life the God who works through his created world and supremely through his human creatures, the faithful God dwelling in the midst of his people, the stern and tender God relentlessly opposed to all that destroys or distorts the good creation, and especially human beings, but recklessly loving all those in need and distress. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd; he shall carry the lambs in his arms; and gently lead those that are with young” (Isa 40:11). It is the OT portrait of YHWH, but it fits Jesus like a glove. ...............
Apparently you don't know shit about 'ZION'.
http://mashiyach.com/
The Kingdom of Elohim is represented by Tsiyon (pronounced Tsee-yone or Zion in English), a literal place in Jerusalem, that symbolizes a spiritual place, the seat of Mashiyach's government on this earth. Originally Zion was a small location in Jerusalem, then it became a code name for the whole city of Jerusalem.
For it is said in the Scripture, “Behold, in Tsiyon I lay a chosen and precious stone for the head of the corner; and whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.” On you therefore who believe is this honor conferred: but to them who do not believe “he is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” And they stumble at it because they believe not the Word from where they were appointed. But you are an elect race, officiating as priests of the Kingdom; a Set Apart people, a redeemed congregation; that you should proclaim the praises of him who called you out of darkness to his precious light: who formerly were not counted as a people but now are the people of Elohim; and also, there were (once) no mercies on you but now mercies are poured out upon you. My beloved, I entreat you as strangers and pilgrims, separate yourselves from all lusts of the body, for they war against the soul. And let your behavior be honorable before all men; so that they who utter evil speeches against you, may see your good actions and may praise Elohim in the day of trial. And be submissive to all the sons of men, for Elohim’s sake; to kings, on account of their authority; and to judges because they are sent by him for the punishment of offenders, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of Elohim, that by your good deeds you may stop the mouth of the foolish who do not know Elohim: As free men, you are not like men who make their freedom a cloak for their wickedness, but as the servants of Elohim. 1 Peter 2:6-16
Throughout Scripture we read of a Kingdom that is not of this earth, but it is shaped from the pattern that is in Heaven. The tabernacle in the wilderness was built according to the specifications that YHWH gave to Moses and within that tabernacle, each of the physical elements are symbols of the spiritual or heavenly Kingdom. It is also interesting to note that Zion is mentioned in 153 verses in the Tanakh... this is the same number of fish the disciples caught in John 21:11. The symbolism is clear, Yeshua taught his disciples how to build the Kingdom of Heaven, as opposed to a religion "about" the Kingdom of Heaven, a very big difference.
We are being trained to know what Tsiyon is, and what it is not. No religion or people's groups have exclusive rights to Tsiyon, it belongs to the people of Mashiyach regardless of religion, race, color or creed. The Government of Tsiyon is on the shoulder of Mashiyach. Mashiyach is returning to the Mount of Olives from whence he departed, but this time round Scripture tells us he will be Mashiyach Ben David a much different scenario than when he first came to earth.
There is the Israel of Elohim (spiritual) and there is the other kingdom of Israel of the flesh. Not all who are Israel of the flesh are the Israel of Elohim. If we can look at Jews, Christians or Muslims without judging them by their religion or race, then we are getting closer to ZION, as how it is revealed in Mashiyach. The Kingdom of Elohim is a government, NOT a religion.
Tsiyon is also the place in our neshama (spirit) where we connect with Mashiyach where our heart receives and gives love for all of Creation, where we can see all others through the eyes of Mashiyach and carry no prejudice towards anyone. The Kingdom is within us, it is not an external government or religion.
You're claim that Israel is an insignificant strip of sand illuminates your ignorance. Israel is the Left/Western Arm of the fertile Crescent..........the Israelites have even made the southern desert areas bloom due to hard work, a foreign concept to you.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/
What is Zionism?
Zionism is the political movement that is implementing the national liberation of the Jewish people. It is based on the assertion that the Jewish people, like any other people, has the right to self-determination; Jews have a right to a national home in their historic homeland. Zionism has made a reality of the "impossible" project of restoration of the Jewish people to our homeland, after nearly 2,000 years of exile. The work of Zionism is far from complete, however.
Zionism has always been a part of Judaism
The ideological and cultural foundations of Zionism have always been present in Jewish tradition. Jews always thought of themselves as a nation or people. The concept of "am Yisrael" - the "people of Israel" or "nation of Israel," has been inherent in Jewish culture from ancient times. Jewish cultural and religious life always centered around the land of Israel. This did not change during two millennia of dispersion.
You're welcome in advance,
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
true lilly Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:55 am
Proverbs 3:
My son 1121, forget 7911 not my law 8451;
but let thine heart 3820 keep 5341 my commandments 4687:
For length 753 of days 3117, and long 8141 life 2416,
and peace 7965, shall they add 3254 to thee.
Let not mercy 2617 and truth 571 forsake 5800 thee:
bind 7194 them about thy neck 1621;
write 3789 them upon the table 3871 of thine heart 3820:
So shalt thou find 4672 favour 2580 and good 2896
understanding 7922 in the sight 5869 of God 430 and man 120.
Trust 982 in the LORD 3068 with all thine heart 3820;
and lean 8172 not unto thine own understanding 998.
In all thy ways 1870 acknowledge 3045 him,
and he shall direct 3474 thy paths 734.
Be not wise 2450 in thine own eyes 5869:
fear 3372 the LORD 3068, and depart 5493 from evil 7451.
It continues:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=1&t=KJV#top
and ends:
The wise 2450 shall inherit 5157 glory 3519:
but shame 7036 shall be the promotion 7311 of fools 3684.
Gavin Philips (who, when he rises from his rest,
God will bless for the dragon he helped slay)
Timothy John Latimer(as above, likewise beloved)
another 'Kiwi', as is:
Key, John.
Whitney Elizabeth Houston (born August 9, 1963) is an American pop and R&B singer. She is known for her beautiful and powerful voice. She is known for songs such as 'I Will Always Love You' and 'I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me)'. Her version of 'The Star Spangled Banner', which she performed live at Super Bowl XXV
in 1991, was released as a single and peaked high on the charts. This
made her the only artist in history to turn the American national anthem
into a successful single.[1]
She is one of the successful female artists of all time. Her most
famous albums are 'The Bodyguard' (The best selling soundtrack album of
all time), her debut album 'Whitney Houston' (The best selling debut
album of all time) and the album 'Whitney'. She is dubbed as "The
Voice". Whitney Houston also starred in the Preacher's Wife. Over the
past few years, Whitney Houston has had trouble with drugs.
..."you do what you gotta do"...
...like NOT taking up 'taxi driver Hit-men's',
unsolicited, out of the blue, offers,
to murder those who cause you grief,
such as, the father of your children...
...'you' sick, twisted (barely) walking dead.
Just as you DON'T take up any of the many,
offers from anyone, let alone 'those' 'ON THEIR TEAM',
to falsely, brand you, as the cause of the untimely death
of 'those' who have become 'their' LIABILITIES.
Woe 1945 to thee that spoilest 7703 ,
and thou [wast] not spoiled 7703 ;
and dealest treacherously 898 ,
and they dealt not treacherously 898 with thee!
when thou shalt cease 8552 to spoil 7703 ,
thou shalt be spoiled 7703 ;
[and] when thou shalt make an end 5239
to deal treacherously 898 ,
they shall deal treacherously 898 with thee.
O LORD 3068, be gracious 2603 unto us;
we have waited 6960 for thee:
be thou their arm 2220 every morning 1242,
our salvation 3444 also in the time 6256
of trouble 6869.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
...of trouble 6869.
...ah, the 'rival wife', the 'vexer';
the time of 'the WOE-to-men WOmen', seducing
the world into serving The Beast that The Whore
rides upon...until, she is thrown, and it is thrown,
down into the pit.
Yes, 'their' blood lust is stinking to high heaven:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3007
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3008
...nearly as high as 'their' terror at 'their' coming, crushing, defeat.
Surely by now, at least some of the English, will finally understand,
that The CONspiracy Industry RELIES on it's followers continuing to
be as stupidly self serving as the CONspiracy Gurus they worship,
preach and slave for.
Surely by now, they would have noticed David Icke's Official Forum is
flooded with threads CHEERING ON and CALLING FOR MORE RIOTS.
Surely by now, they would have noticed that David Icke, "tintin", "cori"
and all those invented, on line 'names' (that CONvinced readers that
'they' were their friends), are happily, safely, sitting behind their screens,
wildly rallying yet more people to destroy their own communities.
Surely by now, at least some remember how much detailed evidence
I gathered and posted to warn readers that my enemies, ARE, THE ENEMY,
and will stop supporting their would-be murderers.
... as for everyone else, you deserve what your free will choice of on line
'friends' on CONspiracy forums have and will cause you to suffer...like these
violent and now deadly, riots in England, that I did, long ago, forewarn,
the CONspiracy gurus you choose to trust, follow, preach and slave for,
ARE USING YOU TO INFLICT ON YOURSELVES AND INNOCENTS.
"Sorry, that was a little curt. How about 'you'...
... get your heads out of the LOSER TRAITOR'S ARSES,
AND SEE THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AFTER THEIR "tools",
but work them to death then smelt them down!"
Anyway, at this point I must thank you for the distraction from
the very real, very heavy, 'shit' going down, in all the world.
It's made me chuckle, and I needed that.
Oh, and why anyone would keep bothering to listen to anyone
who still doesn't know the vast difference between a 'warning'
and a 'threat', or worse still, hate and attack all who do care
to give fair warning of imminent danger to life...ah, it's just all
too sad to contemplate.
Me, I'd rather think of my long lost youth, when no matter how
keenly games were being contested by gatherings of children on
their suburban roads, one only needed to call out, "Car!", for
all to suspend the action, and get safely away from the danger.
"CAR!"
My son 1121, forget 7911 not my law 8451;
but let thine heart 3820 keep 5341 my commandments 4687:
For length 753 of days 3117, and long 8141 life 2416,
and peace 7965, shall they add 3254 to thee.
Let not mercy 2617 and truth 571 forsake 5800 thee:
bind 7194 them about thy neck 1621;
write 3789 them upon the table 3871 of thine heart 3820:
So shalt thou find 4672 favour 2580 and good 2896
understanding 7922 in the sight 5869 of God 430 and man 120.
Trust 982 in the LORD 3068 with all thine heart 3820;
and lean 8172 not unto thine own understanding 998.
In all thy ways 1870 acknowledge 3045 him,
and he shall direct 3474 thy paths 734.
Be not wise 2450 in thine own eyes 5869:
fear 3372 the LORD 3068, and depart 5493 from evil 7451.
It continues:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=3&v=1&t=KJV#top
and ends:
The wise 2450 shall inherit 5157 glory 3519:
but shame 7036 shall be the promotion 7311 of fools 3684.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060110249&postcount=30069true lilly wrote:...and speaking of desperately stupid fools who ADVERTISE
'their' PERSONAL DESIRE to DESTROY ALL FLESH...that also,
PROVE GOD'S WORD and PROMISES, including, that
HE WON'T ALLOW That ULTIMATE EVIL that my attackers,
so insanely lust after:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060108888&postcount=30068
Your search -
australia's great artesian basin true lilly sodlike productions david icke-
did not match any documents.
...and WE ALL KNOW what a filthy lie that is
...gee, why do YOU THINK, that suddenly, now,
THAT VERY EXTENSIVELY COVERED SUBJECT,
NO LONGER 'exists', at all, on Google search...
Gavin Philips (who, when he rises from his rest,
God will bless for the dragon he helped slay)
Timothy John Latimer(as above, likewise beloved)
another 'Kiwi', as is:
Key, John.
Whitney Elizabeth Houston (born August 9, 1963) is an American pop and R&B singer. She is known for her beautiful and powerful voice. She is known for songs such as 'I Will Always Love You' and 'I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me)'. Her version of 'The Star Spangled Banner', which she performed live at Super Bowl XXV
in 1991, was released as a single and peaked high on the charts. This
made her the only artist in history to turn the American national anthem
into a successful single.[1]
She is one of the successful female artists of all time. Her most
famous albums are 'The Bodyguard' (The best selling soundtrack album of
all time), her debut album 'Whitney Houston' (The best selling debut
album of all time) and the album 'Whitney'. She is dubbed as "The
Voice". Whitney Houston also starred in the Preacher's Wife. Over the
past few years, Whitney Houston has had trouble with drugs.
..."you do what you gotta do"...
...like NOT taking up 'taxi driver Hit-men's',
unsolicited, out of the blue, offers,
to murder those who cause you grief,
such as, the father of your children...
...'you' sick, twisted (barely) walking dead.
Just as you DON'T take up any of the many,
offers from anyone, let alone 'those' 'ON THEIR TEAM',
to falsely, brand you, as the cause of the untimely death
of 'those' who have become 'their' LIABILITIES.
Woe 1945 to thee that spoilest 7703 ,
and thou [wast] not spoiled 7703 ;
and dealest treacherously 898 ,
and they dealt not treacherously 898 with thee!
when thou shalt cease 8552 to spoil 7703 ,
thou shalt be spoiled 7703 ;
[and] when thou shalt make an end 5239
to deal treacherously 898 ,
they shall deal treacherously 898 with thee.
O LORD 3068, be gracious 2603 unto us;
we have waited 6960 for thee:
be thou their arm 2220 every morning 1242,
our salvation 3444 also in the time 6256
of trouble 6869.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
...of trouble 6869.
...ah, the 'rival wife', the 'vexer';
the time of 'the WOE-to-men WOmen', seducing
the world into serving The Beast that The Whore
rides upon...until, she is thrown, and it is thrown,
down into the pit.
Yes, 'their' blood lust is stinking to high heaven:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3007
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3008
...nearly as high as 'their' terror at 'their' coming, crushing, defeat.
Surely by now, at least some of the English, will finally understand,
that The CONspiracy Industry RELIES on it's followers continuing to
be as stupidly self serving as the CONspiracy Gurus they worship,
preach and slave for.
Surely by now, they would have noticed David Icke's Official Forum is
flooded with threads CHEERING ON and CALLING FOR MORE RIOTS.
Surely by now, they would have noticed that David Icke, "tintin", "cori"
and all those invented, on line 'names' (that CONvinced readers that
'they' were their friends), are happily, safely, sitting behind their screens,
wildly rallying yet more people to destroy their own communities.
Surely by now, at least some remember how much detailed evidence
I gathered and posted to warn readers that my enemies, ARE, THE ENEMY,
and will stop supporting their would-be murderers.
... as for everyone else, you deserve what your free will choice of on line
'friends' on CONspiracy forums have and will cause you to suffer...like these
violent and now deadly, riots in England, that I did, long ago, forewarn,
the CONspiracy gurus you choose to trust, follow, preach and slave for,
ARE USING YOU TO INFLICT ON YOURSELVES AND INNOCENTS.
"Sorry, that was a little curt. How about 'you'...
... get your heads out of the LOSER TRAITOR'S ARSES,
AND SEE THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AFTER THEIR "tools",
but work them to death then smelt them down!"
Anyway, at this point I must thank you for the distraction from
the very real, very heavy, 'shit' going down, in all the world.
It's made me chuckle, and I needed that.
Oh, and why anyone would keep bothering to listen to anyone
who still doesn't know the vast difference between a 'warning'
and a 'threat', or worse still, hate and attack all who do care
to give fair warning of imminent danger to life...ah, it's just all
too sad to contemplate.
Me, I'd rather think of my long lost youth, when no matter how
keenly games were being contested by gatherings of children on
their suburban roads, one only needed to call out, "Car!", for
all to suspend the action, and get safely away from the danger.
"CAR!"
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Re: 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation
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Lecture 59: Psalm 122 – "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem" (Part II)
(1) A Song of Ascents of David.
1 I was glad when they said to me:
We are going to the house of the Lord.
(2) Our feet were standing
within your gates, O Jerusalem.
(3) Jerusalem that is built.
It is like a city that is united together.
2 (4) For the tribes went up there, the tribes of the Lord,
a testimony to Israel, to give thanks to the name of the Lord.
(5) For there they sat on thrones for judgment,
the thrones of the house of David.
3 (6) Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
May they prosper who love you.
(7) May peace be within your walls,
prosperity within your palaces.
4 ( For my brothers' and companions' sakes
may I now say: Peace be within you.
(9) For the sake of the house of the Lord our God,
I will seek your good.
III. THE FOUR STANZAS OF THE PSALM
Joel Brill, at the end of his short commentary to our psalm,[1] adds an unusual comment:
How pleasant and becoming is this short poem
It is wholly delightful, entirely sweet
As the intelligent reader will perceive.
It goes without saying that this heartfelt comment does not substitute for a systematic analysis of the psalm. Only the "intelligent reader" – who invests his finest intellectual powers in reading the psalm – will merit to taste the sweetness of "this short poem."
Our psalm, as we presented it at the beginning our study, is divided into four stanzas. The first stanza is comprised of three lines (three verses), whereas the rest of the stanzas are comprised of two lines/verses in each stanza.
This division is based first and foremost on the style of the psalm. Apart from the first stanza, which we shall discuss below, the rest of the stanzas are built around a striking doubling in the two lines of each stanza. In each stanza, one or more words are repeated in each of the two lines of the stanza in a fixed place. In some of the stanzas, the two lines also have a similar grammatical structure, which creates parallelism between the two lines of the stanza.[2]
Let us illustrate this with regard to stanzas 2-4:
Stanza 2:
For there
Went up
the tribes…
For there
They sat
thrones… thrones
Stanza 3:
Pray for
the peace
of Jerusalem. May they prosper who love you.
May
peace
Be within your walls, prosperity within your palaces.[3]
Stanza 4:
For the sakes of
my brothers and companions
may I now say:
Peace be within you.
For the sake of
the house of the Lord our God
I will seek
your good.[4]
Stanza 1 clearly differs from the three stanzas that follow it: it consists of three lines which exhibit no doubling or parallelism. On the contrary, they follow one upon the other in logical and chronological succession. The stylistic connection between the lines in this stanza accords with this character. It is a linking connection; that is to say, the end of one line is connected to the beginning of the line that follows.[5]
The connection between the end of the first line and the beginning of the second line is based on linguistic contrast:
We are going / Our feet were standing
What this means is that after "going" from the city of the psalm's speaker, he, along with many other people, arrive at the gates of Jerusalem. When they reach that place, close to their final destination (the house of the Lord), "our feet were standing" for a short period, so that they could take in the view of the city unfolding before them and so that they could prepare for the welcome that they would receive (see the mishna brought in the previous section and note 13).
The connection between the end of the second line and the beginning of the third line is the repetition of the word "Jerusalem." This means that while their feet are standing at the gates of Jerusalem, they contemplate the city that reveals itself in its entirety before them, and from their mouths issues forth the cry: "Jerusalem that is built."
This structure of the psalm is based primarily on the psalm's style (only regarding stanza 1 did we go a little bit into its contents). The question that rises now is whether this division into four stanzas also has substantive meaning. Is the doubling that is characteristic of stanzas 2-4 a means for expressing a certain idea, and is it the same or a similar idea in all of the stanzas? And is there continuity of any kind between the stanzas? Before we attempt to answer these questions, let us make several exegetical comments about the four stanzas of the psalm.
IV. EXEGETICAL COMMENTS REGARDING THE FOUR STANZAS
Stanza 1: Two stylistic phenomena call for our attention in the first two lines of this stanza. First, there is the past tense of the verbs "samachti" ("I was glad") and "omedot hayu" ("were standing"). Amos Chakham[6] proposes two possible ways to understand this past tense usage:
"Samachti"… This statement is made as if by someone who has gone on pilgrimage to Jerusalem and on his return he describes how he felt and what he saw there… According to this explanation, "samachti" is a past tense, and the meaning of "hayu" is also past tense.
According to another explanation, "samachti" is a present tense: "I am glad," and the statement was made at the time the pilgrims set out on their journey to Jerusalem. "Omedot hayu" – here too it is a present tense: "Behold, they are standing."
In the body of his commentary, Amos Chakham adopts the first explanation, and in the conclusion to the psalm he clarifies the difference between the two explanations with respect to the rest of the psalm:
In our commentary, we have adopted the interpretation that the psalm reflects the language of pilgrims who have completed their visit to Jerusalem and are about to leave the city and return to their homes. The psalmist begins by describing his joy when he and the members of his group began walking to the house of the Lord… and he ends with a blessing of farewell, a prayer for the peace of Jerusalem.
According to the second interpretation, it is possible that the whole psalm was recited by pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem, while they were traveling toward it and when they stood at the gates of the city as they were about to enter it. Thus, the blessings of peace were blessings expressed on the arrival of the pilgrims, and not blessings of departure.
The second stylistic phenomenon that requires explanation is the transition from first person singular in the first line – "I was glad when they said to me" – to first person plural in the second line – "Our feet were standing."
The beginning of this transition is found already at the end of the first line, in the citation of the words of the "sayers," whose words the speaker was glad to hear: "We are going to the house of the Lord." Here lies the explanation of the transition: the tidings about the imminent going to the house of the Lord reached each and every individual, and therefore "I was glad when they said to me;" but the going itself was done in a large group, and therefore "we are going to the house of the Lord" and "our feet were standing."[7]
The most serious exegetical difficulty in our psalm is found in the third line of stanza 1:
Jerusalem that is built.
It is like a city that is united together.
What is "a city that is united together"? Various midrashic expositions have been offered to explain these words, and several explanations have been proposed for them that adhere to the plain meaning of the text. Let us first examine the Meiri's understanding of the verse:
Jerusalem that is built – that is to say complete with adorned and elaborate construction.
It is like a city that is united together – there being no empty space, but rather it is all built up and all filled in.
Amos Chakham offers a similar explanation:
All her buildings appear to be joined together and to form a unity, without gaps and empty spaces. The psalmist says "as a city," using the letter kaf as a comparative prefix… [because] in truth a city cannot exist without streets and courtyards that separate the buildings.[8]
Another explanation of our verse was recently proposed. The city of Jerusalem is united together by way of the joining of the western hill – the upper city (which includes what is called today Mount Zion and the Jewish Quarter of the Old City), to the eastern hill – the lower city (the City of David).
The question regarding the time that biblical Jerusalem spread out to the western hill has been the subject of disagreement among archaeologists for several generations. Until the Six Day War, the dominant view (supported by the famous archaeologist Kathleen Kenyon[9]) maintained that throughout the biblical period, Jerusalem was restricted to the eastern hill in the City of David. After the war, however, when the upper city was opened to Israeli archaeologists, Nachman Avigad uncovered in 1970 in the heart of the Jewish quarter a portion of a very broad wall, which has been identified as the wall of Jerusalem in the days of Chizkiyahu, putting a final end to the disagreement.
Were the upper city and the lower city united together within a single shared wall even earlier? This question cannot yet be answered with certainty.[10]
Either way, this attractive explanation explains the pilgrim's excitement about what he sees before him. It would appear that the project of connecting the two parts of the city, an enormous and complicated engineering undertaking,[11] had only recently been completed, and the pilgrim coming to Jerusalem lifts his eyes in great animation to the city which had spread out over an area immeasurably greater than its earlier borders. The unification project had brought the city up to the high ridge towering above the City of David. The city was filled with new buildings and encompassed by a long, broad wall that turned the two parts of the city and the valley between them into a "city that is united together."
The Six Day War and its consequences have provided a basis for this explanation. Now, the explanation that we offered on the 28th of Iyyar 5727, that "like a city that is united together" is united Jerusalem – east and west, that have become one - is no longer so far from the plain sense of the text. It is merely an updated version of the other explanation that we have brought. And since this homiletical explanation preceded the archaeological discoveries that followed it, we can say that the homiletical explanation has paved the way to the plain sense of Scripture.
Stanza 2: Two words in the first line, "edut le-Yisrael," require explanation. The Ibn Ezra seems to have captured their plain sense:
Edut – the statute and commandment to come three times.
The word "edut" appears in another four places in the book of Tehillim in the similar sense of statute and commandment.[12] And the word "edot" in the sense of laws and commandments appears in dozens of other places in the book of Tehillim and elsewhere in Scripture.[13] It stands to reason that there is a connection between these two words when they appear in this sense.
Accordingly, the tribes' going up to Jerusalem is "a statute in Israel," the reference of course being to the mitzva of making a pilgrimage three times a year to the place that God will choose.
In the second line of the stanza, the question arises whether the expressions "thrones for judgment" and "thrones of the house of David," refer to the same thrones - the words "thrones of the house of David" standing in apposition to the words, "thrones for judgment" – or whether we are dealing with two different institutions, the court and the royal house.[14]
The parallelism between the two lines that comprise stanza 2, which we noted earlier, alludes to the answer. In the first line as well, the subject of the sentence is repeated:
For the tribes went up there, the tribes of the Lord.
Just as the words, "the tribes of the Lord," explain the term "tribes," so too the words "thrones of the house of David" explain the words "thrones for judgment."
The role of the kings of the house of David to judge those who come to them for judgment is mentioned in several places in Scripture.[15]
Stanza 3: The speaker in the two clauses of verse 6 directs his words at two different addressees. In the first clause, he addresses the pilgrims who came with him to Jerusalem and calls to them, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." In the second line, he directs his words to Jerusalem (about which he spoke in third person in the previous line), and calls out to it, "May they prosper who love you." How do these two parts of the verse combine to form a unified statement?
Rashi, the Ibn Ezra, and the Meiri explain that the words "May they prosper who love you" constitute a realization of the cry, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." In other words, this is a citation of the words that are supposed to be (or that are actually) said by the pilgrims in Jerusalem.[16] This understanding, however, is difficult: Is the peace of the city identical with the peace of those who love it (apparently the pilgrims arriving for the festival)? Surely when they say, "May they prosper who love You," they are praying for themselves, and not for Jerusalem!
More persuasive, then, is the understanding offered by the Radak that we are dealing here with two separate statements:
Pray – to God for the peace of Jerusalem… and afterwards he says regarding Jerusalem: May they prosper who love you.
But what is the connection between these two statements?
It seems that the connection between them is one of cause and effect. Praying for the peace of Jerusalem, should that prayer be accepted, will bestow benefit upon those very people who offer that prayer. This is explicitly stated in the words of Yirmiyahu (29:7):
And seek the peace of the city…[17] and pray to the Lord for it [Seek the peace of Jerusalem]; for in its peace you shall have peace [May they prosper who love you].
The actual praying for the peace of Jerusalem appears in the second line of stanza 3, where the pilgrims respond by saying:
May peace be within your walls (be-cheilekh),
prosperity within your palaces.
The word "cheil" appears several times in Scripture together with the word "choma,"[18] and so it stands to reason that it is connected to the city wall, and that it too serves the city as a means of protection.[19]
The meaning of the prayer, then, is that peace and prosperity – inward and outward, security and social - should rule in Jerusalem.[20]
Stanza 4: Praying for the good of Jerusalem, "for the sake of the house of the Lord," is understandable. The good of Jerusalem, the security and the prosperity that will reign in its midst, guarantee that the house of God will fulfill its role as the center of Divine service, both on ordinary days and on the special occasions when the people of Israel make pilgrimages to the Temple. But the wishing of peace for Jerusalem "for my brothers' and companions' sakes" requires clarification. How does the peace of Jerusalem impact upon the speaker's "brothers and companions"?
Tz.P. Chajes explains the words "for my brothers' and companions' sakes" – "because of my brothers who reside within it, so that no enemy should come upon them." This limitation, however, is unconvincing.
Amos Chakham suggests that "'my brothers and my companions' are all the people of Israel, whom the love of Jerusalem unites and makes brothers and companions." It is more reasonable, however, that "my brothers and my companions" are the pilgrims, to whom he had previously directed the call, "pray for the peace of Jerusalem." Here again the words of Yirmiyahu cited above clarify our verse: "For in its peace [that of Jerusalem] you shall have peace."
Our psalm gives expression to a similar idea. The peace of Israel depends upon the peace of Jerusalem.[21] Therefore, "For my brothers' and companions' sakes may I now say, ‘Peace be within you.’"
(To be continued.)
(Translated by David Strauss)
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[1] In "Zemirot Yisrael," the book of Tehillim with commentary.
[2] Most of the lines in the psalm do not demonstrate parallelism. Incomplete parallelism is found only in verse 5:
For there they sat on the thrones for judgment,
the thrones of the house of David.
And in verse 7:
May peace be within your walls,
prosperity within your palaces.
[3] There is no parallelism between the lines of Stanza 3, but as compensation for the lack of parallelism, there is a repetition of two words: The word "shalom" appears in each line as the second word of the first clause, and the root "shin-lamed-heh" appears in each line, whether as a verb or as a noun, as the first word of the second clause. Similarly this stanza rhymes: "ohavayikh" – "be-armenotayikh."
[4] The parallelism between these two lines is the most developed. It is synonymous, direct, and complete parallelism. And as in the previous stanza, here too there is rhyme: "bakh" – "lakh."
[5] A linking connection is appropriate for development between one line and the next, for the latter line opens where the previous line had ended off and develops it. It should be noted that this type of linking is a stylistic feature characteristic of many of the Songs of Ascent, and some have even suggested that the term "Songs of Ascent" reflects this feature.
[6] In his commentary to the book of Tehillim in the Da'at Mikra series, in his commentary to verses 1-2, in notes 1b-2, and in the conclusion to the psalm.
[7] In section III, we noted that the pilgrimage to Jerusalem of those bringing bikkurim (around which the psalm seems to revolve) was a pilgrimage of a large group of people, involving the farmers of an entire district in Eretz Yisrael. But since there was no fixed dated for this pilgrimage, it was necessary to tell each farmer that on such-and-such day, "we are going to the house of the Lord," and when he heard this, he was filled with joy.
[8] a. The advantage of this explanation is that the second exclamation in the verse, "it is like a city that is united together," explains the first exclamation – "Jerusalem that is built." Some commentators explain that the words "that is united together" refer to the unity among the tribes of Israel in that city. According to this, there is no clear connection between the two parts of the verse.
b. It is difficult for a modern person to understand this praise of Jerusalem. For him, the more "open spaces" that a city has, the grander the city. In ancient times, however, un-built patches within a walled city testified to the poverty of the city's population.
[9] Kenyon reported that in archaeological digs that she had conducted in various areas of the upper city (digs that were conducted prior to the Six Day War), she found no evidence of settlement during the biblical period.
[10] This question may be relevant for dating the composition of our psalm, but from our perspective the issue of dating our psalm is not of such great importance.
[11] The difficulty of such a project lies in the fact that the two parts of the city are separated by a ravine that had to be included within the city walls. In addition, we are dealing with a very long wall which had to be constructed under challenging topographical conditions.
[12] In three places, the word "edut" parallels another term that teaches that this is the sense of the word:
19:8: "The Torah of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul; the statute (edut) of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple."
78:5: "For He established a statute (edut) in Yaakov, and appointed a Torah in Israel."
81:5-6: "For this is a statute for Israel, an ordinance of the God of Yaakov. This He ordained in Yosef for a statute (edut)."
In one place, the context teaches that this is the sense of the word:
119:88: "In Your steadfast love spare my life; so I shall keep the statute (edut) of Your mouth."
[13] In all these places, the word appears in this sense in the plural, except for Tehillim 132:12: "If your children will keep My covenant and My statute (ve-edoti) that I shall teach them." The Ibn Ezra (ad loc.) writes: "The cholam comes in place of a shuruk," and thus this word joins the instances in which the word edut is used in the sense of statute listed in the previous note.
[14] Rashi and the Meiri imply that we are dealing with two different institutions; the Radak and R. Yeshaya understand that we are dealing with the thrones of the house of David which are the thrones of judgment.
[15] Shmuel II 12:1-6; ibid. 14:4-10; ibid. 15:2-6; Melakhim I 3:16-27; all these places refer to David or Shlomo sitting in judgment of the people (although in two of the cases, the judgment is fictional).
In two places in the book of Yeshayahu (9:6; 16:5) and in one place in the book of Yirmiyahu (21:12), the house of David is mentioned in connection with the execution of judgment.
[16] Rashi connects the two clauses of the verse by way of the words, "and say to it;" the Ibn Ezra connects them by way of the words, "and they will pray, saying before it;" and the Meiri by way of the words, "and they will say to it in the manner of prayer."
[17] In our study of psalm 137, end of section IV, we cited the words of R. Reuven Margaliyot that the city about which Yirmiyah speaks in his words to the exiles is Jerusalem, and not Bavel. By doubling the letter mem, he understands the words, "asher higleti etkhem shama," as "asher higleti etkhem mi-shama," "from which I have caused you to be carried away captives," i.e., Jerusalem.
[18] Shmuel II 20:15; Yeshayahu 26:1; Nachum 3:8; Eikha 2:8.
[19] Various suggestions have been made regarding the precise identification of the "chel." Some say that it is a moat before the wall, while others say it is the sloped lower portion of the wall.
[20] The connection between Jerusalem's wall and its palaces appears in one other place in the book of Tehillim, in psalm 48, which is also dedicated to the glory of Jerusalem. There it says (v. 14), "Mark well her wall, consider her palaces."
[21] This dependency might be on the earthly, rational plane, but it is possible that it is concealed from the eye, not dependent upon political or economic factors.
(1) A Song of Ascents of David.
1 I was glad when they said to me:
We are going to the house of the Lord.
(2) Our feet were standing
within your gates, O Jerusalem.
(3) Jerusalem that is built.
It is like a city that is united together.
2 (4) For the tribes went up there, the tribes of the Lord,
a testimony to Israel, to give thanks to the name of the Lord.
(5) For there they sat on thrones for judgment,
the thrones of the house of David.
3 (6) Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
May they prosper who love you.
(7) May peace be within your walls,
prosperity within your palaces.
4 (
For my brothers' and companions' sakesmay I now say: Peace be within you.
(9) For the sake of the house of the Lord our God,
I will seek your good.
III. THE FOUR STANZAS OF THE PSALM
Joel Brill, at the end of his short commentary to our psalm,[1] adds an unusual comment:
How pleasant and becoming is this short poem
It is wholly delightful, entirely sweet
As the intelligent reader will perceive.
It goes without saying that this heartfelt comment does not substitute for a systematic analysis of the psalm. Only the "intelligent reader" – who invests his finest intellectual powers in reading the psalm – will merit to taste the sweetness of "this short poem."
Our psalm, as we presented it at the beginning our study, is divided into four stanzas. The first stanza is comprised of three lines (three verses), whereas the rest of the stanzas are comprised of two lines/verses in each stanza.
This division is based first and foremost on the style of the psalm. Apart from the first stanza, which we shall discuss below, the rest of the stanzas are built around a striking doubling in the two lines of each stanza. In each stanza, one or more words are repeated in each of the two lines of the stanza in a fixed place. In some of the stanzas, the two lines also have a similar grammatical structure, which creates parallelism between the two lines of the stanza.[2]
Let us illustrate this with regard to stanzas 2-4:
Stanza 2:
For there
Went up
the tribes…
For there
They sat
thrones… thrones
Stanza 3:
Pray for
the peace
of Jerusalem. May they prosper who love you.
May
peace
Be within your walls, prosperity within your palaces.[3]
Stanza 4:
For the sakes of
my brothers and companions
may I now say:
Peace be within you.
For the sake of
the house of the Lord our God
I will seek
your good.[4]
Stanza 1 clearly differs from the three stanzas that follow it: it consists of three lines which exhibit no doubling or parallelism. On the contrary, they follow one upon the other in logical and chronological succession. The stylistic connection between the lines in this stanza accords with this character. It is a linking connection; that is to say, the end of one line is connected to the beginning of the line that follows.[5]
The connection between the end of the first line and the beginning of the second line is based on linguistic contrast:
We are going / Our feet were standing
What this means is that after "going" from the city of the psalm's speaker, he, along with many other people, arrive at the gates of Jerusalem. When they reach that place, close to their final destination (the house of the Lord), "our feet were standing" for a short period, so that they could take in the view of the city unfolding before them and so that they could prepare for the welcome that they would receive (see the mishna brought in the previous section and note 13).
The connection between the end of the second line and the beginning of the third line is the repetition of the word "Jerusalem." This means that while their feet are standing at the gates of Jerusalem, they contemplate the city that reveals itself in its entirety before them, and from their mouths issues forth the cry: "Jerusalem that is built."
This structure of the psalm is based primarily on the psalm's style (only regarding stanza 1 did we go a little bit into its contents). The question that rises now is whether this division into four stanzas also has substantive meaning. Is the doubling that is characteristic of stanzas 2-4 a means for expressing a certain idea, and is it the same or a similar idea in all of the stanzas? And is there continuity of any kind between the stanzas? Before we attempt to answer these questions, let us make several exegetical comments about the four stanzas of the psalm.
IV. EXEGETICAL COMMENTS REGARDING THE FOUR STANZAS
Stanza 1: Two stylistic phenomena call for our attention in the first two lines of this stanza. First, there is the past tense of the verbs "samachti" ("I was glad") and "omedot hayu" ("were standing"). Amos Chakham[6] proposes two possible ways to understand this past tense usage:
"Samachti"… This statement is made as if by someone who has gone on pilgrimage to Jerusalem and on his return he describes how he felt and what he saw there… According to this explanation, "samachti" is a past tense, and the meaning of "hayu" is also past tense.
According to another explanation, "samachti" is a present tense: "I am glad," and the statement was made at the time the pilgrims set out on their journey to Jerusalem. "Omedot hayu" – here too it is a present tense: "Behold, they are standing."
In the body of his commentary, Amos Chakham adopts the first explanation, and in the conclusion to the psalm he clarifies the difference between the two explanations with respect to the rest of the psalm:
In our commentary, we have adopted the interpretation that the psalm reflects the language of pilgrims who have completed their visit to Jerusalem and are about to leave the city and return to their homes. The psalmist begins by describing his joy when he and the members of his group began walking to the house of the Lord… and he ends with a blessing of farewell, a prayer for the peace of Jerusalem.
According to the second interpretation, it is possible that the whole psalm was recited by pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem, while they were traveling toward it and when they stood at the gates of the city as they were about to enter it. Thus, the blessings of peace were blessings expressed on the arrival of the pilgrims, and not blessings of departure.
The second stylistic phenomenon that requires explanation is the transition from first person singular in the first line – "I was glad when they said to me" – to first person plural in the second line – "Our feet were standing."
The beginning of this transition is found already at the end of the first line, in the citation of the words of the "sayers," whose words the speaker was glad to hear: "We are going to the house of the Lord." Here lies the explanation of the transition: the tidings about the imminent going to the house of the Lord reached each and every individual, and therefore "I was glad when they said to me;" but the going itself was done in a large group, and therefore "we are going to the house of the Lord" and "our feet were standing."[7]
The most serious exegetical difficulty in our psalm is found in the third line of stanza 1:
Jerusalem that is built.
It is like a city that is united together.
What is "a city that is united together"? Various midrashic expositions have been offered to explain these words, and several explanations have been proposed for them that adhere to the plain meaning of the text. Let us first examine the Meiri's understanding of the verse:
Jerusalem that is built – that is to say complete with adorned and elaborate construction.
It is like a city that is united together – there being no empty space, but rather it is all built up and all filled in.
Amos Chakham offers a similar explanation:
All her buildings appear to be joined together and to form a unity, without gaps and empty spaces. The psalmist says "as a city," using the letter kaf as a comparative prefix… [because] in truth a city cannot exist without streets and courtyards that separate the buildings.[8]
Another explanation of our verse was recently proposed. The city of Jerusalem is united together by way of the joining of the western hill – the upper city (which includes what is called today Mount Zion and the Jewish Quarter of the Old City), to the eastern hill – the lower city (the City of David).
The question regarding the time that biblical Jerusalem spread out to the western hill has been the subject of disagreement among archaeologists for several generations. Until the Six Day War, the dominant view (supported by the famous archaeologist Kathleen Kenyon[9]) maintained that throughout the biblical period, Jerusalem was restricted to the eastern hill in the City of David. After the war, however, when the upper city was opened to Israeli archaeologists, Nachman Avigad uncovered in 1970 in the heart of the Jewish quarter a portion of a very broad wall, which has been identified as the wall of Jerusalem in the days of Chizkiyahu, putting a final end to the disagreement.
Were the upper city and the lower city united together within a single shared wall even earlier? This question cannot yet be answered with certainty.[10]
Either way, this attractive explanation explains the pilgrim's excitement about what he sees before him. It would appear that the project of connecting the two parts of the city, an enormous and complicated engineering undertaking,[11] had only recently been completed, and the pilgrim coming to Jerusalem lifts his eyes in great animation to the city which had spread out over an area immeasurably greater than its earlier borders. The unification project had brought the city up to the high ridge towering above the City of David. The city was filled with new buildings and encompassed by a long, broad wall that turned the two parts of the city and the valley between them into a "city that is united together."
The Six Day War and its consequences have provided a basis for this explanation. Now, the explanation that we offered on the 28th of Iyyar 5727, that "like a city that is united together" is united Jerusalem – east and west, that have become one - is no longer so far from the plain sense of the text. It is merely an updated version of the other explanation that we have brought. And since this homiletical explanation preceded the archaeological discoveries that followed it, we can say that the homiletical explanation has paved the way to the plain sense of Scripture.
Stanza 2: Two words in the first line, "edut le-Yisrael," require explanation. The Ibn Ezra seems to have captured their plain sense:
Edut – the statute and commandment to come three times.
The word "edut" appears in another four places in the book of Tehillim in the similar sense of statute and commandment.[12] And the word "edot" in the sense of laws and commandments appears in dozens of other places in the book of Tehillim and elsewhere in Scripture.[13] It stands to reason that there is a connection between these two words when they appear in this sense.
Accordingly, the tribes' going up to Jerusalem is "a statute in Israel," the reference of course being to the mitzva of making a pilgrimage three times a year to the place that God will choose.
In the second line of the stanza, the question arises whether the expressions "thrones for judgment" and "thrones of the house of David," refer to the same thrones - the words "thrones of the house of David" standing in apposition to the words, "thrones for judgment" – or whether we are dealing with two different institutions, the court and the royal house.[14]
The parallelism between the two lines that comprise stanza 2, which we noted earlier, alludes to the answer. In the first line as well, the subject of the sentence is repeated:
For the tribes went up there, the tribes of the Lord.
Just as the words, "the tribes of the Lord," explain the term "tribes," so too the words "thrones of the house of David" explain the words "thrones for judgment."
The role of the kings of the house of David to judge those who come to them for judgment is mentioned in several places in Scripture.[15]
Stanza 3: The speaker in the two clauses of verse 6 directs his words at two different addressees. In the first clause, he addresses the pilgrims who came with him to Jerusalem and calls to them, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." In the second line, he directs his words to Jerusalem (about which he spoke in third person in the previous line), and calls out to it, "May they prosper who love you." How do these two parts of the verse combine to form a unified statement?
Rashi, the Ibn Ezra, and the Meiri explain that the words "May they prosper who love you" constitute a realization of the cry, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." In other words, this is a citation of the words that are supposed to be (or that are actually) said by the pilgrims in Jerusalem.[16] This understanding, however, is difficult: Is the peace of the city identical with the peace of those who love it (apparently the pilgrims arriving for the festival)? Surely when they say, "May they prosper who love You," they are praying for themselves, and not for Jerusalem!
More persuasive, then, is the understanding offered by the Radak that we are dealing here with two separate statements:
Pray – to God for the peace of Jerusalem… and afterwards he says regarding Jerusalem: May they prosper who love you.
But what is the connection between these two statements?
It seems that the connection between them is one of cause and effect. Praying for the peace of Jerusalem, should that prayer be accepted, will bestow benefit upon those very people who offer that prayer. This is explicitly stated in the words of Yirmiyahu (29:7):
And seek the peace of the city…[17] and pray to the Lord for it [Seek the peace of Jerusalem]; for in its peace you shall have peace [May they prosper who love you].
The actual praying for the peace of Jerusalem appears in the second line of stanza 3, where the pilgrims respond by saying:
May peace be within your walls (be-cheilekh),
prosperity within your palaces.
The word "cheil" appears several times in Scripture together with the word "choma,"[18] and so it stands to reason that it is connected to the city wall, and that it too serves the city as a means of protection.[19]
The meaning of the prayer, then, is that peace and prosperity – inward and outward, security and social - should rule in Jerusalem.[20]
Stanza 4: Praying for the good of Jerusalem, "for the sake of the house of the Lord," is understandable. The good of Jerusalem, the security and the prosperity that will reign in its midst, guarantee that the house of God will fulfill its role as the center of Divine service, both on ordinary days and on the special occasions when the people of Israel make pilgrimages to the Temple. But the wishing of peace for Jerusalem "for my brothers' and companions' sakes" requires clarification. How does the peace of Jerusalem impact upon the speaker's "brothers and companions"?
Tz.P. Chajes explains the words "for my brothers' and companions' sakes" – "because of my brothers who reside within it, so that no enemy should come upon them." This limitation, however, is unconvincing.
Amos Chakham suggests that "'my brothers and my companions' are all the people of Israel, whom the love of Jerusalem unites and makes brothers and companions." It is more reasonable, however, that "my brothers and my companions" are the pilgrims, to whom he had previously directed the call, "pray for the peace of Jerusalem." Here again the words of Yirmiyahu cited above clarify our verse: "For in its peace [that of Jerusalem] you shall have peace."
Our psalm gives expression to a similar idea. The peace of Israel depends upon the peace of Jerusalem.[21] Therefore, "For my brothers' and companions' sakes may I now say, ‘Peace be within you.’"
(To be continued.)
(Translated by David Strauss)
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[1] In "Zemirot Yisrael," the book of Tehillim with commentary.
[2] Most of the lines in the psalm do not demonstrate parallelism. Incomplete parallelism is found only in verse 5:
For there they sat on the thrones for judgment,
the thrones of the house of David.
And in verse 7:
May peace be within your walls,
prosperity within your palaces.
[3] There is no parallelism between the lines of Stanza 3, but as compensation for the lack of parallelism, there is a repetition of two words: The word "shalom" appears in each line as the second word of the first clause, and the root "shin-lamed-heh" appears in each line, whether as a verb or as a noun, as the first word of the second clause. Similarly this stanza rhymes: "ohavayikh" – "be-armenotayikh."
[4] The parallelism between these two lines is the most developed. It is synonymous, direct, and complete parallelism. And as in the previous stanza, here too there is rhyme: "bakh" – "lakh."
[5] A linking connection is appropriate for development between one line and the next, for the latter line opens where the previous line had ended off and develops it. It should be noted that this type of linking is a stylistic feature characteristic of many of the Songs of Ascent, and some have even suggested that the term "Songs of Ascent" reflects this feature.
[6] In his commentary to the book of Tehillim in the Da'at Mikra series, in his commentary to verses 1-2, in notes 1b-2, and in the conclusion to the psalm.
[7] In section III, we noted that the pilgrimage to Jerusalem of those bringing bikkurim (around which the psalm seems to revolve) was a pilgrimage of a large group of people, involving the farmers of an entire district in Eretz Yisrael. But since there was no fixed dated for this pilgrimage, it was necessary to tell each farmer that on such-and-such day, "we are going to the house of the Lord," and when he heard this, he was filled with joy.
[8] a. The advantage of this explanation is that the second exclamation in the verse, "it is like a city that is united together," explains the first exclamation – "Jerusalem that is built." Some commentators explain that the words "that is united together" refer to the unity among the tribes of Israel in that city. According to this, there is no clear connection between the two parts of the verse.
b. It is difficult for a modern person to understand this praise of Jerusalem. For him, the more "open spaces" that a city has, the grander the city. In ancient times, however, un-built patches within a walled city testified to the poverty of the city's population.
[9] Kenyon reported that in archaeological digs that she had conducted in various areas of the upper city (digs that were conducted prior to the Six Day War), she found no evidence of settlement during the biblical period.
[10] This question may be relevant for dating the composition of our psalm, but from our perspective the issue of dating our psalm is not of such great importance.
[11] The difficulty of such a project lies in the fact that the two parts of the city are separated by a ravine that had to be included within the city walls. In addition, we are dealing with a very long wall which had to be constructed under challenging topographical conditions.
[12] In three places, the word "edut" parallels another term that teaches that this is the sense of the word:
19:8: "The Torah of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul; the statute (edut) of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple."
78:5: "For He established a statute (edut) in Yaakov, and appointed a Torah in Israel."
81:5-6: "For this is a statute for Israel, an ordinance of the God of Yaakov. This He ordained in Yosef for a statute (edut)."
In one place, the context teaches that this is the sense of the word:
119:88: "In Your steadfast love spare my life; so I shall keep the statute (edut) of Your mouth."
[13] In all these places, the word appears in this sense in the plural, except for Tehillim 132:12: "If your children will keep My covenant and My statute (ve-edoti) that I shall teach them." The Ibn Ezra (ad loc.) writes: "The cholam comes in place of a shuruk," and thus this word joins the instances in which the word edut is used in the sense of statute listed in the previous note.
[14] Rashi and the Meiri imply that we are dealing with two different institutions; the Radak and R. Yeshaya understand that we are dealing with the thrones of the house of David which are the thrones of judgment.
[15] Shmuel II 12:1-6; ibid. 14:4-10; ibid. 15:2-6; Melakhim I 3:16-27; all these places refer to David or Shlomo sitting in judgment of the people (although in two of the cases, the judgment is fictional).
In two places in the book of Yeshayahu (9:6; 16:5) and in one place in the book of Yirmiyahu (21:12), the house of David is mentioned in connection with the execution of judgment.
[16] Rashi connects the two clauses of the verse by way of the words, "and say to it;" the Ibn Ezra connects them by way of the words, "and they will pray, saying before it;" and the Meiri by way of the words, "and they will say to it in the manner of prayer."
[17] In our study of psalm 137, end of section IV, we cited the words of R. Reuven Margaliyot that the city about which Yirmiyah speaks in his words to the exiles is Jerusalem, and not Bavel. By doubling the letter mem, he understands the words, "asher higleti etkhem shama," as "asher higleti etkhem mi-shama," "from which I have caused you to be carried away captives," i.e., Jerusalem.
[18] Shmuel II 20:15; Yeshayahu 26:1; Nachum 3:8; Eikha 2:8.
[19] Various suggestions have been made regarding the precise identification of the "chel." Some say that it is a moat before the wall, while others say it is the sloped lower portion of the wall.
[20] The connection between Jerusalem's wall and its palaces appears in one other place in the book of Tehillim, in psalm 48, which is also dedicated to the glory of Jerusalem. There it says (v. 14), "Mark well her wall, consider her palaces."
[21] This dependency might be on the earthly, rational plane, but it is possible that it is concealed from the eye, not dependent upon political or economic factors.
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