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Post  Ciggy Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:58 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.


The shin within the YHVH.

The Asiatics call it Chi or Qi...I notice parallels here and there...

Very good etymological catch there. It was plain in front of me face and I didn't recognize it until now.
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Post  Billy Ruben Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:05 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.


The shin within the YHVH.

The Asiatics call it Chi or Qi...I notice parallels here and there...

Very good etymological catch there. It was plain in front of me face and I didn't recognize it until now.
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It's the religeous freaks that take spiritual truth,divide it,disperse it into countless religeons and rename constructive cosmic forces into their "God" for control,manipulation and "Truth".Their truth.That's why I cherrypick Ciggy,from all and everyone,it's a vain effort to reconstruct the original truth...The temple of one to ursurp the temple of the sun,as Icke calls it.It's all there,the effort to sift for gold is enormous though,you have to first overcome your own fear programming,from these sects.Then and only then,with discriminate alliances nullified,you can overview and see it for what it really is.

True Lilly,will never break this mould for many lifetimes...

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Post  mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:43 am

Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.


smoke another one ziggy, I've Posted a whole Thread on the Kabbalah, you must of missed it.......and NO.cigtard, I don't think 'Jesus' is 'magick'......He was employing Science and Physics beyond our understanding..as a matter of FACT I queried all the Pagans/Heathens at DIFtardia if they understood the DIFFERENCe between magick and the Miracles of Yahshua............without a nanoparticle of Doubt, Yahshua was teaching, embodying the Torah/Instruction of YHWH, all 4 levels...... thumbs up And.for the Record, any so called 'kabbalah' that is not Torah Based is Bullshit Kabbalah.......quite popular amongst the moral relativist Pagans............. thumbs up

Levels 1-4.... thumbs up thumbs up

and so was Paul...................IQ=180 +

I also provided a Thread of the Torahs Message/Meme, providing an opportunity to be honest..............you 'passed'. thumbs up

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The Hebrew Letters
Shin: The Eternal Flame
The letter shin appears engraved on both sides of the head- tefilin. On the right side, the shin possesses three heads, while on the left side it possesses four heads. In Kabbalah we are taught that the three-headed shin is the shin of this world while the four- headed shin is the shin of the World to Come.

The secret of the shin is "the flame [Divine Revelation] bound to the coal [Divine Essence]." A simmering coal actually possesses an invisible flame within it, which emerges and ascends from the surface of the coal when the coal is blown upon. The three levels: coal, inner flame, and outer flame, correspond to the secret of chash-mal-mal, as will be explained in the next letter, the tav.

One of the meanings of the word shin in Hebrew is shinui, "change." The coal symbolizes changeless essence, the secret of the verse: "I am God, I have not changed," meaning that relative to God's Essence absolutely no change has occurred from before Creation to after Creation. The inner flame is the paradoxical latent presence of the power of change within the changeless. The outer flame of the shin is continuously in a state of motion and change.

As in the above-quoted verse, the changeless Essence is the secret of the Name Havayah. The power of change, as latently present within God’s Essence before Creation and thereafter revealed in the infinite intricacy and beauty of an ever-dancing flame, is the secret of the explicit Name of Creation, Elokim, the only Name of God which appears in the plural. The number of the letter shin, 300, unites these two Divine Names as the "flame bound to the coal." In at'bash, the Name Havayah transforms to the letters mem-tzadik-pei-tzadik, which total 300. The five letters of Elokim (alef-lamed-hei-yud-mem) when written in full, also equal 300.

The three heads of the shin of this world correspond to the three levels of the changeless, potential, and actual change as discussed above. In this world, the changeless is symbolized only by a black, dark coal, not as the revealed light of the flame. Nonetheless the endurance of the flame depends upon the changeless essence of the coal. In the World to Come, the changeless essence will reveal itself within the flame. This revelation of the future is the secret of the fourth head of the shin.

In the flame of a candle one sees three levels of light: the "dark light" around the wick of the candle, the white flame encompassing it, and an amorphous aura around the white flame itself. Each of these three levels of revealed light manifests a dimension contained within the invisible flame present in the coal. In general the flame symbolizes love, as is said: "as mighty as death is love...the flame of God." The dark light corresponds to the love of Israel, souls enclothed within physical bodies. The white light corresponds to the love of Torah. The aura corresponds to the love of God. These are the three essential manifestations of love as taught by the Ba'al Shem Tov. The fourth head of the shin of the future - the revelation of the essence of the coal itself - corresponds to the love of the Land of Israel and, as our Sages teach: "the Land of Israel will in the future spread to incorporate all the lands of the earth."


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FORM

Three vavs, each with a yud on top, rise from a common base- point.
Symbol of symmetry; Form of a flame.

Worlds:

•Stability and harmony in nature.
•Positive and negative grace; Symmetry groups.
Souls:

•Finding grace in the eyes of God.
•The grace of the Jewish people in each other's eyes.
•The 3 vavs represent the three Patriarchs; the 4 vavs, the Matriarchs.
•The 3 vavs represent "Kohanim," "Levites," "Israelites"; the fourth, righteous converts.
•"No lie can endure if not based on truth."
Divinity:

•Divine Perfection and Grace; The three lines, or pillars, of the sefirot.
•The "army of God"; The shin of the tefilin.
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NAME

A year; change; a tooth; scarlet; serenity; to sleep; to teach; two; sharp; old; viceroy.

Worlds:

•Natural changes in the yearly cycle.
•Tooth - power of decomposition and entropy.
•The fiery scarlet of the priestly garments.
•"I am asleep..." "in exile"; Aging.
Souls:

•The fire of Torah; Sharpness in learning.
•The second to the King; The double Shabbat loaves.
•The Mishnah; "...yet my heart is awake."
Divinity:

•The "immovable power" that causes all motion.
•"I am God, I have not changed."
•Peace and serenity; The "shin" of the mezuzah.
•The accelerated change of the future toward the changeless.

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NUMBER

Three hundred

Worlds:

•Three hundred foxes sent to burn down the fields of the Philistines.
•Three hundred arrows pierced King Yoshiyahu.
•Three hundred years Israel worshipped idolatry in the days of the Judges.
Souls:

•Three hundred fox-parables of Rabbi Meir.
•Three thousand parables of King Solomon.
•Three hundred firstborn Levites; Three hundred soldiers of Gideon.
Divinity:

•Three hundred halachot concerning "a mighty bright spot."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "you shall not let a sorceress live."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "the tower soaring in air."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "and the name of his wife was Meheitavel."
•"Is not my word like fire and like a hammer that breaks rock into pieces?"
•"The spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters."
•The full spelling of the Name Elokim (and the Name Havayah in at'bash).


The Hebrew Letters
Alef: The Paradox of God and Man

The alef is formed by two yuds, one to the upper right and the other to the lower left, joined by a diagonal vav. These represent the higher and lower waters and the firmament between them, as taught by the Ari z"l ("Rabbi Isaac Luria of blessed memory," who received and revealed new insights into the ancient wisdom of Kabbalah)

Water is first mentioned in the Torah in the account of the first day of Creation: "And the spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water." At this time the higher and the lower waters were indistinguishable; their state is referred to as "water in water." On the second day of Creation God separated the two waters by "stretching" the firmament between them.

In the service of the soul, as taught in Chassidut, the higher water is water of joy, the experience of being close to God, while the lower water is water of bitterness, the experience of being far from God.

In Jewish philosophy, the two intrinsic properties of water are "wet" and "cold." The higher water is "wet" with the feeling of oneness with the "exaltation of God," while the lower water is "cold" with the feeling of separation, the frustration of experiencing the inherent "lowliness of man." Divine service, as taught by Chassidut, emphasizes that in fact the primary consciousness of both waters is the sense of the Divine, each from its own perspective: from the perspective of the higher water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the oneness of all in His Absolute Being; from the perspective of the lower water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the existential gap between the reality of God and that of man, thus the inherent "lowliness of man."

The Talmud tells of four sages who entered the "Pardes," the mystical orchard of spiritual elevation reached only through intense meditation and Kabbalistic contemplations. The greatest of the four, Rabbi Akiva, said to the others before entering, "When you come to the place of pure marble stone, do not say 'water-water,' for it is said, 'He who speaks lies shall not stand before my eyes.'" The Ari z"l explains that the place of "pure marble stone" is where the higher and the lower waters unite. Here one must not call out 'water-water,' as if to divide the higher and lower waters. "The place of pure marble stone" is the place of truth--the Divine power to bear two opposites simultaneously; in the words of Rabbi Shalom ben Adret: "the paradox of paradoxes." Here "the exaltation of God" and His "closeness" to man unite with the "lowliness of man" and his "distance" from God.

The Torah begins with the letter beit: "Bereishit (In the beginning) God created the heavens and the earth." The Ten Commandments, the Divine revelation to the Jewish People at Sinai, begin with the letter alef: "Anochi [I] am God your God who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." The Midrash states that "higher reality" had been set apart from "lower reality," for God had decreed that neither higher reality descend nor lower reality ascend. In giving the Torah, God annulled His decree, He Himself being the first to descend, as it is written: "And God came down on Mount Sinai". Lower reality, in turn, ascended: "And Moses approached the cloud...." The union of "higher reality," the upper yud, with the "lower reality," the lower yud, by means of the connecting vav of Torah, is the ultimate secret of the letter alef.


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FORM

A yud above and a yud below with a vav separating and uniting them simultaneously. The secret of the image in which man was created.

Worlds:

•The upper and lower waters with the firmament between them.

•In the world:

◦The upper atmosphere, the lower atmosphere, the ocean & water table.

◦Energy waves, the atmosphere, the hydrological cycle.

•In the human body:

◦The respiratory system, the diaphragm, the digestive system .

◦The skull-water, the membrane, the brain-moisture.

Souls:

•Feeling both close to God and distant from Him with commitment to Torah and mitzvot balancing these emotions.

•"Crying is enwedged in my heart on one side, while joy is enwedged in my heart on the other side."
Divinity:

•Transcendent and Immanent Light with the contraction (tzimtzum) and impression (reshimu) between them.

•Man in perfect unity with the Infinite Will of God.


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NAME

Oxen; thousand; teaching; master.

Worlds:

•Oxen--gross physical reality, the lower animal soul.

•Thousand--multiplicity in Creation, the "thousand mountains grazed by the ox."

•The yoke of the ox yielding a thousandfold and returning to unity.

Souls:

•"I will teach you wisdom"; the root of the soul is derived from the wisdom of God.

•Direct insight of Divine truth; to be nothing.

Divinity:

•"Master of the universe."

•The Divine "One" revealing itself throughout the plurality of Creation.


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NUMBER

One

Worlds:

•First of all countable numbers.

•The beginning of process in nature and sequence of worldly events.

•One counts "something from something."

Souls:

•"One nation in the land."

•The organic unity of all Jewish souls.

•One counts "something from nothing."

Divinity:

•"God is One": the absolute unity of God.

•"There is none other besides Him:" "One, single, and unique."

•One counts "nothing from something


Did you notice the Aleph is 2 yods and an Vav? thumbs up

The Hebrew Letters
Yud: The Infinite Point
The letter yud, a small suspended point, reveals the spark of essential good hidden within the letter tet. Subsequent to the initial tzimtzum, the contraction of G-d's Infinite light in order to make "place" for Creation, there remained within the empty void a single, potential point or "impression." The secret of this point is the power of the Infinite to contain finite phenomena within Himself and express them to apparent external reality. Finite manifestation begins from a zero-dimensional point, thereafter developing into a one-dimensional line and two-dimensional surface. This is alluded to in the full spelling of the letter yud (yud-vav-dalet): "point" (yud), "line" (vav), "surface" (dalet). These three stages correspond in Kabbalah to: "point" (nekudah), "spectrum" (sefirah), "figure" (partzuf). The initial point, the essential power of the yud, is the "little that holds much." The "much" refers to the simple Infinity of G-d hidden within the initial point of revelation, which reflects itself as the Infinite potential of the point to develop and express itself in all the manifold finite phenomena of time and space.

Before the tzimtzum, the power of limitation was hidden, latent within G-d's Infinite Essence. Following the tzimtzum, this power of limitation became revealed, and paradoxically the Infinite Essence of G-d that originally "hid" the power of limitation now Itself became hidden (not in truth, but only from our limited human perspective) within the point of contracted light.

From within this point of limitation is revealed the secret of the ten sefirot, the Divine channels of light through which G-d continually brings His world into being. Ten, the numerical value of the yud, is also the number of commandments (literally "statements") revealed by G-d to His People Israel at Sinai. All the commandments, and in fact every letter of Torah, possess the power of the "little that holds much"; each is a channel for the revelation of G-d's Infinite Light in finite reality.


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FORM

A "formed" point: a crown above and a "pathway" below.
The smallest of the letters; The only letter suspended in midair.

Worlds:

•The "pathway" of the yud; The initial point of space and time.
•Natural wisdom: "The wisdom of Solomon."
•Direction and purpose: the consciousness of the present moment.
Souls:

•The "body" of the yud; The enwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" as manifest in the judgment of Solomon.
•The power of self-nullification.
Divinity:

•The crown of the yud above; The unenwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" inspiring and directing Solomon's genius.
•Revealed Omnipresence; The beginning and end of every letter (form).

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NAME

Hand; to thrust.

Worlds:

•The secret of space; To thrust - the principle of action and reaction.
•The wave-nature of radiation.
Souls:

•Intelligence; Friendship.
•To acknowledge - to make space for others; Empathy
Divinity:

•G-d's "hand" - the Infinite Will and ability to sustain the Creation.
•Charity, physical and spiritual.
•"Shaking G-d's Hand": identifying with archetypal souls and Temple service.
•G-d's thought - the origin of the Jewish soul.

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NUMBER

Ten; "The tenth shall be holy"; the decimal nature of reality.

Worlds:

•Ten Divine utterances through which the world was created.
•Ten things created on the first day.
•Ten things created at dusk at the end of the first Friday.
•Ten generations from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham.
•Ten kings ruled the whole world; Ten nations given to Abraham.
•Ten pure animals; Ten categories of forbidden magic.
•Ten battles of Joshua; Ten essential limbs of the body.
Souls:

•The sefirot - Spiritual Powers; Ten categories of the souls of Israel.
•Ten trials of Abraham; A minyan of ten men.
•Ten synonyms for prayer; Ten synonyms for song.
•Ten cardinal songs sung throughout history.
•Ten martyrs of Israel; Ten spiritual functions of the heart.
Divinity:

•Ten Commandments; Ten plagues.
•Ten miracles in the Holy Temple; Ten days of repentance.
•Yom Kippur--the tenth day; The Divine Name ten times on Yom Kippur.
•Ten names of Ruach HaKodesh; Ten are called "the man of G-d."
•Ten verses of Kingdom, Remembrance and Shofar-blast.
•Ten synonyms for teshuvah.


The Hebrew Letters
Vav: Connection
In the beginning of Creation, when Infinite Light filled all reality, G d contracted His Light to create hollow empty space, as it were, the "place" necessary for the existence of finite worlds. Into this vacuum God drew down, figuratively speaking, a single line of light, from the Infinite Source. This ray of light is the secret of the letter vav. Though the line is singular in appearance, it nonetheless possesses two dimensions, an external as well as an internal force, both of which take part in the process of Creation and the continuous interaction between the creative power and created reality.

The external force of the line is the power to differentiate and separate the various aspects of reality, thereby establishing hierarchical order, up and down, within Creation. The internal force of the line is the power to reveal the inherent interinclusion of the various aspects of reality, one in the other, thereby joining them together as an organic whole. This property of the letter vav, in its usage in Hebrew, is referred to as vav hachibur, the vav of connection"--"and." The first vav of the Torah--"In the beginning G d created the heavens and [vav] the earth"--serves to join spirit and matter, heaven and the earth, throughout Creation. This vav, which appears at the beginning of the sixth word of the Torah, is the twenty-second letter of the verse. It alludes to the power to connect and interrelate all twenty-two individual powers of Creation, the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet from alef to tav. (The word et [which appears before the two instances of the word "the" in this verse, and is spelled alef-tav] is generally taken to represent all the letters of the alphabet, from alef to tav. Our Sages interpret the word in this verse to include all the various objects of Creation present within heaven and earth.)

In Biblical Hebrew, the letter vav also possesses the function of inverting the apparent tense of a verb to its opposite from past to future or from future to past (vav hahipuch). The first appearance of this type of vav in the Torah is the letter vav" which begins the twenty-second word of the account of Creation, "And God said...." This is the first explicit saying of the ten sayings of Creation: "And G d said [the verb 'said' being inverted from the future to the past tense by the vav at the beginning of the word--'And']: 'Let there be light,' and there was light." The phenomenon of light breaking through the darkness of the tzimtzum, the primordial contraction, is itself the secret of time (future becoming past) which permeates space.

In the Divine service of a Jew, the power to draw from the future into the past is the secret of teshuvah ("repentance" and "returning to God") from love. Through teshuvah from fear, one's deliberate transgressions become like errors; the severity of one's past transgressions becomes partially sweetened, but not completely changed. However, when a Jew returns in love, his deliberate transgressions become like actual merits, for the very consciousness of distance from God resulting from one's transgressions becomes the motivating force to return to God with passion even greater than that of one who had never sinned.

Every Jew has a portion in the World to Come, as is said: "And all your nation are 'tzadikim'; forever they will inherit the land." The power of teshuvah to completely convert one's past to good, is the power of the vav to invert the past to the future. This transformation itself requires, paradoxically, the drawing down of light from the future to the past.

Drawing the future into the past in the Divine service of man is the secret of learning the inner teachings of the Torah, that aspect of the Torah which is related to the revelation of the coming of the Mashiach. Rashi explains the verse in the Song of Songs: "May he kiss me with the kisses of his mouth, for your love is better than wine" as alluding to the sweet teachings that will be revealed by the Mashiach. When a person intently studies the secrets of the Torah, he draws from the future into the past, in order to strengthen himself to return in complete teshuvah from love and thereby convert his past into future.


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FORM

A vertical line.
A pillar.
A man standing upright.

Worlds:

•Twelve pillars of Creation - the twelve lines of a cube. The twelve tribes.
•Seven pillars of Creation - six directions and time. The seven shepherds.
•One pillar of Creation the future. Mashiach.
•The connecting rods in the Tabernacle.
Souls:

•Complete stature of man - standing on earth with head reaching up towards heaven.
•The Jewish People standing together.
•The "Golden Path" in the service of God.
•The torso in relation to the hands, feet, and brit.
Divinity:

•The pillar of Truth.
•Consistency of the middle pillar.
•Divinity piercing through the middle point of every Creation.
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NAME

A Hook

Worlds:

•The connecting hooks of the pillars in the Tabernacle - concealment and revelation.
•The axis of symmetry and the equilibrium between symmetry and asymmetry.
Souls:

•The power which links together the souls of Israel.
•The points of will to do God's Will engraved in the heart of every Jew.
•The axis which connects the good points present within every Jew.
Divinity:

•The connecting link between the separate Laws - engraved letters of Divine essence - of the Torah.
•The force of connection between the Divine sparks inherent throughout reality.
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NUMBER

Six

Worlds:

•Six Days of Creation, and their six corresponding Divine forces active in creation.
•Six letters of the word bereishit, "In the beginning."
•Six alefs in the first verse of the Torah.
•Six-millennium duration of the world.
•Six directions of the physical world.
Souls:

•Six wings (states of love and fear in the soul) of the fiery angels.
•"Give truth to Jacob."
Divinity:

•Six orders of the Mishnah.
•The six "wings" of the "Magen David."
•Six cubits - the dimensions of the Tablets received by Moses at Mt. Sinai.

ciggy, for 5 years I haver Posted the 'nuts & bolts' of this most remarkable Book, it is you who is shallow, superficial, meanspirited and a bullshit artist.

Given an opportunity to be honest, you passed. thumbs up

You didn't have enough nutsack to engage the Jewish/Biblical Meme....................In contrast: I have Balls that Klangggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why you don't like me..I treated you like the bullshit punk that you are...............cease being a bullshit pansy assed punk and I'll treat you like a man...............'k? thumbs up


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Post  true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:52 am

Oh dear, - Jane, Liverpool, UK, 19/10/2011 16:13,
Queen Elizabeth is our Monarch,
and Australia, with it's tiny 21+ million population,
can afford to offer to help
your precious EU countries
out of their financial mess.

We are not a 'Banana Republic' because we are not a republic.

And something for all Australian's to consider:
how do you think an elected head of state of a country
this rich in natural resources, this large in area, and this tiny in population,
could prevent all those militarily powerful, population rich
but resource poor nations, from raiding us blind,
without Our Royal Family, watching over us?

- Lilly, Ballarat, Australia, 20/10/2011 3:06
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050818/Queen-Elizabeth-arrives-Australia-tour-country.html#ixzz1bFZjHfu3

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Her Majesty the Queen's Personal Flag for Australia
-
Since the 1964 Royal Visit of Australia, HM Queen Elizabeth II
has used in Australia a distinctive personal flag,
rather than the Royal Standard

used when she is in the United Kingdom.
The flag is a banner of the Australian Coat of Arms
with a badge consisting of the Commonwealth Star
upon which is the Queen's Royal badge
showing her initial surmounted by a crown
and surrounded by a garland of roses and wattle.


Note that the Western Australian swan
faces away from the hoist,
the same as in the Coat of Arms.

The correct proportions are 22 x 31, not
the 1 x 2 proportions
that are used for other British Royal Standards.
true lilly wrote:Should Julia Gillard have curtsied to the Queen?

Yes70.97% (1719 votes)
No
29.03% (703 votes)

Total votes: 2422
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Should Australia abandon the monarchy and become a republic?

Yes
36.7% (1042 votes)
No 63.3% (1797 votes)

Total votes: 2839
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true lilly wrote:Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders. 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 93349'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 832261'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 93349
true lilly wrote:Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?

Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!


Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.


Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing
in May.


It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
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The Land of Israel, not Australia is the Biblical Promised Land for the Hebrew Tribes. You want to claim differently show us the Testimony of at least one credentialed Rabbi/Teacher..

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Full Restoration of Israel (28 part series)
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The Full Restoration Of Israel!
Part I of a Series
In Genesis 13:14-16 Yahuwah our Heavenly Father promised Abram the land of Canaan as well as a promise of physical multiplicity of his zera or his seed (sperm). Abram was told that this promise of physical multiplicity will be so vast and so extensive that the entire earth will literally be full of his zera. Verse 16 reminds us that at the time that this promise is literally and physically brought to pass it will be absolutely impossible for mankind to even count it, or in any way census it, since mankind is totally impotent and unable to count the dust of the earth. This promise is straightforward, needing absolutely no interpretation or explanation. That same seed will inherit the land eventually to be known as Israel.

In Genesis 15 verses 1-6 we see Abram willing to help Yahuwah fulfill the promise of Genesis 13 by prematurely and incorrectly choosing Eliezer, a Gentile, who is not a physical offspring of Abram's own sperm or zera, to be the one through whom that promise would be brought to pass. However Yahuwah rebukes Abram and makes it clear to him that His promise of physical multiplicity that would become a number that man would not be able to number would not come through an adopted Gentile or a second class choice. No! Our Heavenly Father ordained that this promised heir would come from Abram's own body. He would not be adopted but he would be a physical descendent of Abram. It is through this physical descendent that Yahuwah once again promises Abram that his physical offspring will be more than the stars of Heaven. Obviously through modern science we know that our solar system has billions of stars and of course that other solar systems have many more billions. These stars in totality produce a number that mankind cannot even fathom. Yahuwah challenges Abram's lack of ability in counting the stars with the words "if you can" in verse five. It is because of Abram's pure faith and trust in Yahuwah that he receives imputed righteousness as a result of his believing and trusting in Yahuwah's promise. Notice there is only one promise not many promises. Abram was declared righteous by faith in Yahuwah's one promise. Whoever this physical seed would turn out to be it would literally have to be more than the dust particles of the sea and the visible stars of heaven. This promise must be taken extremely and solely on a literal face value. Any tendency to somehow spiritualize this promise is a lack of faith in Yahuwah's literal Word. That would be the very opposite of the faith of Abram himself.

This promise of physical multiplicity and blessing is renewed in Genesis 17 verse 4 where Abram is told that this promise will establish him as a father of many nations or "hamon goyim". This term "hamon goyim" is also found in verse 5 and literally means a noisy multitude of Gentile nations. This physical seed that will literally fill the globe will not be a silent group of religious folks, rather they will be a great and noisy multitude making a great noise and tumult about Yahuwah and His gospel love for humanity. Verse 6 of Genesis 17 promises Abraham that through this seed of promise, kings would be manifest. This of course is talking about the kings that would one day make up the royal House of David through whom Messiah would come to His throne. In verse 7 Yahuwah reassures Abraham that this promise of greatness through physical multiplicity would be unconditional and everlasting.

After the testing of Abraham's faith in Genesis 22, Yahuwah renews the promise, due to Abraham's great obedience in the binding of Isaac on Mt Moriah. In verses 17&18 Yahuwah reminds Abraham that it is he that will inherit the physical promise of physical multiplicity when his seed one day becomes more than the stars of heaven and the dust of the earth. In verse 18 we see that from this earth filling seed, will come one (Messiah), through whom all of the earth's families will be blessed. In Genesis 24 verse 60, Rebecca's family prophetically prays over her in order that her children may become "myriad's of peoples" and rule over their enemies.

In Genesis 26 verse 4 we see this promise of physical increase being renewed with Abraham's son Isaac. He is told that his zera will be more than the stars of heaven. Sound familiar? Isaac becomes the heir of this promise not Ishmael. Therefore when Yahuwah brings to pass this great and precious promise it will not be through an adopted Gentile like Eliezer or a child of the flesh like Ishmael, but rather through the child of promise (Isaac) the heir proceeding from Abraham's own body. Galatians 4:28 confirms that only Isaac is the child of promise. What promise? The promise of physical multiplicity that would fill the earth, yet still possess the land of Canaan as it's own homeland.

Genesis 28 verse 3 finds Isaac blessing Jacob and prophesying that the promise that Yahuwah gave Abraham and Isaac would now be bestowed upon Jacob and not Esau. We see that in verse three Isaac prays that Jacob's zera, would be blessed and become a "kehelat goyim" or "assembly of peoples." For the first time in scripture we get a glimpse of Yahuwah's plan for filling the earth with the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The Hebrew term found in verse three is "kehelat goyim" or an assembly of nations or even better an "assembly of goyim". Somehow the Father will fill the earth with the physical seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by putting together an assembly of goyim. Verse 4 confirms that what Isaac is bestowing upon Jacob is none other than the blessing of Abraham.

It is absolutely crucial for us to understand that there are not many promises to Abraham. There are not some that are spiritual and some others that are physical. Rather there is one promise and that one promise contains two aspects of physical blessing. One is the seed who would bless the nations, that being Messiah Yahshua Himself, the other being merely a promise of physical reproduction and multiplicity. In Genesis 28 in the account of Jacob's ladder we find Yahuwah telling Jacob that his seed will be spread out as the dust of the earth and will break forth to the four corners of the globe. In other words his offspring would find its home in Canaan land, but would somehow through Yahuwah's divine plan break forth and find its way to the four corners of the earth. This promise is none other than the bestowing upon Jacob of the promise and blessing of Abraham. The Hebrew term used in Genesis 28 verse 14 is the term "parats" meaning to break forth. It literally means to jump out and spread quickly. This promise of physical multiplicity must come through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob therefore nullifying any claims by Islam and Ishmaelites or any other misguided Bible scholars claiming that this promise is fulfilled in adding the Jews and Muslims together. That is wrong since this promise must come through Isaac and Jacob not Ishmael and Esau. The Ishmaelite, Arab and Muslim peoples are the physical descendants of Abraham alone, not of the promised heirs Isaac and Jacob. They do not, I repeat do not, meet the standards set down by Yahuwah when He stated that the promise of physical multiplicity would come through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The faith of Islam is not the faith of Abraham because in order to have the faith of Abraham one must believe it was Isaac not Ishmael who was the chosen seed!

We find Yahuwah elaborating on this promise to Jacob in Genesis 35:10-11 where He declares to Jacob that he would no longer be known as Jacob but as Israel. Israel means one who as a prince struggles with Yahuwah and prevails. It is as Israel that Jacob will produce sperm that will lead to the establishment of a nation and a company of nations. The nation of course is destined to be the Jewish people and the company of nations will be the "kehelat goyim" or the assembly of nations (Gentiles) that will proceed from his own body.

As we jump forward in time we find Israel the great patriarch dying in the land of Goshen in Egypt and he summons all his sons to his bedside as he is dying. He somehow finds enough strength and leans on his staff and begins to prophecy through the Ruach HaKodesh the events that will befall his sons in the last days. The Brit Chadasha (New Covenant) refers to these deathbed prophecies of Israel as an act of worship. In Genesis 48:5 he adopts Joseph's children born in Egypt, Ephraim and Manasseh as his own. He is declaring his last will and testament right there in front of Joseph. He officially adopts these two boys so that Joseph his most beloved son can receive a double portion of blessing through both his sons (verse 22). In verse 16 of Genesis 48 he calls these two grandchildren "Israel", since he not only adopts them but prophetically declares that the physical promise of physical global multiplicity will come through them. After stating "let my name be called upon them," meaning they are Israel's children, he prays that they will become a multitude. The Hebrew term used here for multitude can be read as a "teeming multitude of fish". It is interesting to remember that it was none other than our Messiah Yahshua who declared that He would make us fishers of men. Could many of the men he was referring to be the "teeming multitude proceeding from Ephraim and Manasseh?

As Israel is about to pronounce blessing he lays his right hand on Ephraim instead of Manasseh who was Joseph's firstborn. The right hand is symbolic of the blessing of the first born and should have rightfully fallen to Manasseh. However above the protests of Joseph, Israel crosses his hands and place the right one on the second of Joseph's sons Ephraim. When Joseph objects Israel tells him not to worry that he knows exactly what he is doing and that while Manasseh will become a great nation, Ephraim will be greater than him. In Genesis 48:19 we have one of the most fascinating and important prophecies of scripture. In blessing Ephraim over and above his brother, Israel declares that the seed or zera of Ephraim will become the "maleh goyim", or the "fullness of the Gentiles". In other words the physical seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that was promised to one day literally fill the earth as the sand and dust of the earth and stars of heaven, will now come to pass in and through Ephraim. Ephraim will be the vehicle though which the great and precious single promise of physical multiplicity will literally come to pass. In English the words "maleh hagoyim" can best be translated as the "fullness of the Gentiles". If that term sounds familiar it should. It is a quotation from Romans 11:25 by Rav Shaul (Paul) as the method and means by which all Israel would be saved. The only other time this word maleh is used in Tanach is in Psalm 24:1, where the psalmist declares that the earth is Yahuwah's and the fullness thereof. In other words the earth is full of peoples, places and things that belong to Yahuwah and there is nothing found in the earth that does not belong to Yahuwah. In like manner there will be virtually no one in the earth that is not somehow belonging to the seed of Ephraim since it is the seed of Ephraim where all the blessings of physical multiplicity will be found. More on that later.

Not only do we see Ephraim receiving the birthright of the first born over and above his older brother Manasseh, but Israel also removes it from Reuben in Genesis 49:3 & 4 since Reuben defiled his father's bed and was sexually impure regarding the privacy and intimacy of Israel's marriage bed. So in reality Ephraim is moved ahead of Reuben, Joseph and Manasseh to receive the blessing of the firstborn of Israel. First Kings 5:1-2 and Jeremiah 31:9, confirms this essential truth. There is however some needed insight at this point. In all ancient Mideast cultures the right of the firstborn was essential in establishing lordship over the house of the dying father. With the birthright went power, authority, respect, grandeur and the right to enact all family business and transactions pertaining to its sustenance, care and well being. In essence the birthright was the permission to the firstborn to take over and rule the fathers' house in the fathers absence through death. Isaac received this right from Abraham even as Jacob received it from Isaac, albeit deceitfully. With the birthright went power and therefore it was coveted greatly in that culture.

When Israel gave Ephraim the birthright, however, he gave it to him with one major reservation. We read about this in Genesis 49:8-10, where Judah is given the pre-eminence or power to rule and reign royally over the House Of Israel! In verse 9 it states that all Israel's children will bow before the royalty of Judah and verse 9 states that the pre-eminence will cause all Israel to pay homage to the Lion of Judah whom verse 10 refers to by the Messianic moniker of Shiloh. Shiloh means the "sent one" or the anointed King Messiah from the kingly line of Judah who would be manifest in the natural through the tribe of Judah. Hebrews 7:14 makes it clear that Yahshua was Shiloh and it is evident that He sprang forth from Judah. What a mess! Did Jacob make a major error? Did he go to all the trouble of establishing Ephraim as the firstborn with the firstborn birthright only to give him a title without authority and without preeminence over his brothers? Did he make Ephraim a puppet ruler with just a paper title much like the modern day Queen of England? One thing we know for sure. He brought a split into and among the sons of Israel since one son had a birthright but the other son Judah had the right to rule! What good is a birthright without the authority that goes along with it? The children of Israel would submit to Judah's seed not Ephraim's, yet Ephraim's seed would become the fullness of the Gentiles. Judah would rule over the House Of Israel, but Ephraim would bring forth the promised zera that would fill the globe with the promise to the patriarchs of physical multiplicity. Of course Israel knew what he was doing since he was ministering through the Ruach HaKodesh. He split the authority and blessing between the two brothers who would continue to wage war over the fullness of the blessing that would ultimately be played out in a battle royal over the title of who is Israel? How ironic that according to Genesis 49:10 it will be the Lion of Judah (Messiah Yahshua), that would gather the goyim or nations of the seed of Ephraim back into the House Of Israel! After Israel died and his children waxed great in Egypt this promise of physical multiplicity began to trouble a Pharaoh who knew not Joseph. Of course he enslaved the Hebrews and it took Moshe Rabainu our great deliverer to rescue Israel from the house of bondage. As history teaches us Moshe took the twelve tribes out of Egypt to Sinai where they received Torah and the twelve tribes settled the land of Canaan. After a period of diverse judges and after King Saul, David was anointed King over all Israel. In the days of David the King, we see the house of Judah ruling and reigning over a united Israel with 12 tribes under David's monarchy. All was well until Solomon, David's' son, began whoring physically as well as spiritually and Yahuwah revealed to Solomon that the kingdom would be broken in the life of his son Rehoboam because of Solomon's sins. (First Kings 11:11-14). Yahuwah further revealed to Jeroboam an Ephraimite, one of Solomon's talented craftsman, that he would receive ten tribes resulting from this split in the kingdom of Israel after Solomon's death. This prophecy was acted out in front of Jeroboam by Ahiyah the prophet. The glory days under David was the last time that the kingdom belonged to all Israel, made up of all twelve tribes. In approximately 921 BC the ten northern tribes broke away from the House Of David and called themselves Israel making Samaria its capital. The southern tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi made up the southern kingdom under Rehoboam with Jerusalem as its capital (Read First Kings 11:26-43). As Rehoboam prepares an army to retake the ten renegade tribes in the north, Yahuwah forbids it in First Kings 12:24 by telling Rehoboam that this split in the House Of David is from Him and that they should not fight against their brothers.

This split in 921 BC was simply the literal fulfillment of the prophetic unction's pronounced by Jacob over his sons when he split the family so to speak. He split the birthright between Ephraim and Judah and that is why Yahuwah says in First Kings 12:24 that this family split is from Him. He ordained it and desired it so that He could bring to pass the promise He made to the patriarchs. Specifically the promise of physical multiplicity. The means by which our Heavenly Father chose to do this is through this split in David's House. We will see why later! What began with Jacob now was being played out in the natural. The Northern kingdom of ten tribes began to adopt pagan practices, holidays, customs, false worship and unfortunately Jeroboam became the father of Ephraimite pagans. In First Kings 12:26-33 we see the evil heart of Jeroboam son of Nebat at as he devised a scheme for the ten tribes collectively known as the House of Israel or Ephraim to begin to practice a false religion designed to keep Ephraim separate from Judah and separate from Judah's Elohim. As we will shortly come to realize this House of Ephraim would one day become hidden as individuals within the Christian Church through Yahuwah's program of the regathering of Ephraim through Messiah Yahshua and would adopt all of the ungodly pagan practices of Jeroboam. This system of Jeroboam had as its basic design the creation of a separate entity from the House of David consisting of the ten tribes in the north.

This separation unto debauchery and unto Ephraim's departure from the family of Israel resulted in Yahuwah's judgement in approximately 721 BCE when Yahuwah send Tilgat Pilsger III, the Assyrian king to utterly destroy the House Of Ephraim or the ten northern tribes. Since Ephraim played the harlot and lifted her skirt to every foreign deity, Yahuwah declared that he would in like manner sift her and cause her to be naked before the Gentile nations, by bringing an end to the northern kingdom, of Israel. This stern punishment would be enacted by the dispersing and swallowing up of these ten tribes by the world's pagan nations. Since Ephraim's lust, penchant and desire for paganism was so great Yahuwah permitted the ten tribes to become the very thing that they so desperately and so wickedly craved to be! Thus we find that the children of Israel experienced their first holocaust in 721 BCE when ten tribes seemingly disappeared and became lost spiritually as well as physically. Thus was born the ten lost tribes of Israel.

As we are about to discover this breakage was the method by which Yahuwah chose to fulfill the family split caused by Jacob himself as well as to fulfill the promise of physical multiplicity to the patriarchs. Are the ten tribes really lost? Can they be found? Have they been destroyed or somehow preserved? Did the Messiah come to restore the Tabernacle of David which had fallen in 920 BCE? Did the ten lost tribes of Israel become Gentiles later to be regathered back into the house Of Israel by the ministry of Moshiach? Is it possible that the ten tribes became the "maleh goyim" or the "fullness of the Gentiles" that we read about in Romans and that was promised to be the physical Israelite seed through Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Ephraim? Let's find out!

The prophet Hosea is a great place to start our definitive search for the other house of Israel, the House of Ephraim. From this point forward the key to understanding prophecy related to the restoration of the twelve tribes into the House Of David is to understand that after the split in 921 BCE Yahuwah almost never ever refers to one house but to two houses of Israel! When He speaks to the North (10) tribes He speaks of Israel or Ephraim. When He speaks to the South He speaks of Judah. He always separates these two entities and unless you learn to do likewise you cannot and will not understand any prophetic writings or prophecies given by any of Israel's prophets after the split of the House of David. Get it fully settled in your minds that after 921 BC there were and still are two separate houses of Israel!! If you can comprehend this truth you are well on your way to being an instant prophecy expert!

In Hosea chapter One, the prophet sent to the northern kingdom of Israel is told to take a wife who is a whore since that would give him a pretty good idea what the ten tribes have done to Yahuwah. After cohabiting with Gomer, Hosea calls their daughter "Lo-Ruhammah" (verse 6), meaning no mercy or compassion. In verse 4 of Hosea One we see Yahuwah putting an end to the northern House Of Israel and in verse 6 He promises to never again show Israel in the north any mercy. In verse 7 Yahuwah stated that unlike Israel, He will show mercy to Judah in the south. The couple conceived a son in verse 9 and Yahuwah commands Hosea to call his name "Lo-Ami" for you are not my people and I am not for you. When Yahuwah is against you the party is over. Israel or Ephraim is called Lo-Ami, not my people. It is adios , good bye and good night Irene! No more mercy, no more my people, no more a kingdom, and Yahuwah fighting against you. We see clearly the end of the ten northern tribes as a nation before Yahuwah. A total divorce and rejection has taken place. Hosea 7:8,8:8,9:11,9:17,10:1,12:1 and other passages confirm that Ephraim's plight is to become Lo-Ami, swallowed up among the Gentiles. Yet in verse 10 we see a startling declaration. Despite a death sentence for the ten tribes as an identifiable kingdom or nation, miraculously they reappear and are born-again so to speak in the last days. Verse 10 of Hosea One begins with the words "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the seashore. Here we have a kingdom totally destroyed and swallowed up among the Gentiles, miraculously reappearing as the former children of Israel and are even called the sand of the sea! Sound familiar? It should! This is the sand of the sea promise made to the patriarchs and to Ephraim. This verse further reveals to us just where we are going to find the ten lost tribes or the sand of the sea that cannot be counted. The ones who call themselves and are called by Yahuwah children of Elohim! Do you know any modern day group of people that run around referring to themselves and claiming themselves to be children of the living Yahuwah! You got it! The born-again community of Gentile believers is nothing more than the former dispersed House Of Israel. Yahuwah further states in this verse that when Ephraim is gathered they will be His people or His Ami and He will be their Elohim since they have become sons of the living Elohim by grace though faith (Hosea 2:21-23). This cannot possibly be made any clearer. A nation that has come to an end, disappeared or become lost if you will, all of a sudden showing up as sons and daughters of Yahuwah in the last days! Elohim Himself reminds us in verse 10 that this group in nothing more than the former House of Jeroboam or House of Israel. In verse 11 of Hosea One we see this return of the ten lost tribes coming back into the House Of David in the days when these former lost Israelites appoint for themselves the same head that Messianic Jews are appointing for themselves. This one head is the head of the body made up of nothing more than Judahites and Ephraimites with perhaps some true Gentiles, now restored to Yahuwah as redeemed individuals from both houses and are learning to trust and lean on the same Head by appointing that Head (Yahshua) as personal Elohim and Savior! Verse 11 goes on to say that when individual Ephraimites and Judahites are making this personal appointment of Yahshua as king of their lives it will not be a day to build something called "a church" where "the church" replaces the Jew, rather it will be the day of Jezreal. Jezreal means the replanting of those who were scattered! Baruch HaShem Yahuwah. Notice the very next verse in Hosea 2:1, where both Judahites and Ephraimites who appoint Yahshua as their head (in the day of Jezreal's regathering and replanting into David's rebuilt Tabernacle), will no longer look at their brothers and sisters as spiritual brothers or sisters only, but will see them in a new light. What light is that? As "ami!" My own people. Bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh. When Ephraim and Judah are individually regenerated and regathered into the rebuilt Tabernacle of David then we will begin to recognize each other as blood brothers, as physical Israelites from different sides of the same family that have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb!



Remember that in Matthew 15:24 Yahshua stated in the clearest possible terms that he was sent for no one except the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Notice He did not state that He came for Gentiles or Jews. He did not come only for Jews because Jews are Judahites physically descended from the two southern tribes that made up the Kingdom of Judah. He also has no interest in Gentiles. Why? Because those who respond to Yahshua's love, and come back to the restored Tabernacle of David, may look like Gentiles, act like Gentiles, behave like Gentiles, eat pork and break the Shabbat like Gentiles, but are in fact nothing more than the lost physical sheep of the house of Israel who became the Gentiles and have been living like Gentiles for 2700 years. Obviously when they come back they are not going to look like Israelites who practice and are faithful to Torah. Either you are going to believe Yahshua and scores of other prophets or you are going to make up your own theology. He said I have come only for all the lost sheep of the House of Israel. This includes the Jews but also includes the other house of Israel, who are my brothers in the flesh. Of course Paul, Peter and others were sharing the gospel with Gentiles because where else are you going to find the seed of Ephraim, except among the Gentiles filling the globe. Amos 9:9 tells us that though scattered among the Gentiles, not one grain or person will fall to be destroyed. In other words they will not disappear from the earth, but will mix and literally become the peoples of the earth, only to be brought back to Yahuwah in the end times, on an individual basis. The Great Commission (Matt: 28 18-20) therefore is nothing more than a world wide search for the seed of Ephraim the sand of the sea, dust of the earth, the teeming multitudes of humanity. Part of that search of course will be to look for the dispersed of Judah as well. Yaakov (James) testifies to this truth by reminding the Jerusalem Council that Yahuwah was just visiting the Gentiles nations through the preaching of the gospel, not to live there, but to rescue and pull out His people called by His Name ( Acts 15:14-17). Through this rescue James reminds us that Yahuwah is rebuilding The Tabernacle Of David made up of all the twelve tribes of Israel. Since He is Israel's Elohim, He is pulling out and rescuing Israelites from the "outcast status" that had been their inheritance due to their disobedience to Torah. These people are Israelites regardless of whether they themselves realize it or not! Is not that what it means to be lost? Lost spiritually as well as physically!

Is it not fascinating that after three and a half years of Yahshua's earthly ministry as He is about to ascend back to heaven from the Mt. of Olives, all remaining eleven talmidim come to Him and ask Him the same exact question. This is almost unimaginable since these eleven rarely agreed on anything and were always fighting and asking questions, seeking to bolster their own agenda. Yet in total unanimity they all had the same final question. Master, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? (Acts1:6) That is what they were concerned with. Not the creation or building of a separate entity called "the church" which has sought to replace, annihilate and often destroy the Judahite people. Let it be clearly understood that the word "church" is nothing more than the ekklesia or assembly of the Tanach. It is the same assembly that was receiving Torah on Mt. Sinai (Acts7:37-38). There is one New Covenant assembly, called Israel by Rav Shaul (Galatians 6:16). There is no such thing as a separate entity called "the church", with a separate Shabbat and a separate holy day schedule. In Spanish and Portuguese and almost every language ekklesia meaning those "called out ones" maintains the basic idea of an assembly. Only in English do we have this "church" (derived from a pagan circular blood ritual called "church") word that appears to be teaching that Yahshua built something new called "the church", when all He was doing was rebuilding the mikra or assembly of the Tanach and filling it with power. When the Septuagint translation of the Tanach was translated from Hebrew to Greek around 175 B.C.E., every translator translated the word mikra into ekklesia and that is exactly what Yahshua Himself claims to have come to build (Matthew 16:16-19)! The oldest New Covenant manuscripts in our possession today and written in Aramaic (a dialect of Hebrew), confirm the absence of the word "church" again using in its place the word "assembly." Because of Ephraim's jealousy and hatred of his brother Judah, along with an ongoing addictive attraction to anything pagan or foreign to Torah (like father like son), he decided to become a separate man-made entity known as "the church" totally divorced from Jacob's family and it's rich Hebraic roots, which explains why today the "church" as it mostly stands is absolutely unrecognizable to both Jews and often to Yahuwah Himself! This self-desired divorce from Israel has left "the church" without any tools with which to provoke Judah to jealousy. She is a man-made self willed religious divorcee from the covenant people of Israel!

The gospel is not merely a proclamation of personal salvation. It is a message of national restoration to Israel from a divided family which manifested itself in two still separate houses of Israel. Matthew 24:14 reminds us that the gospel is the gospel of the Kingdom. In Matthew chapter 12 Yahshua speaks of the principal of a divided house without any ability to withstand the fiery darts of Satan! What kingdom? The kingdom of Israel. In Luke 24:21 the talmidim were very disappointed since they fully and rightfully expected the twelve tribes to be resorted under Yahshua the Moshiach. Where would they get that idea from? Jeremiah 23 verses 3-6 Yahuwah declares that He will bring Israel and Judah back from global dispersion in the days that Messiah arrives. In verse 5 and 6 it states that Judah shall be saved and Israel shall dwell safely. We see the reunification of both houses under the Messiah or the reunification of all twelve tribes all living in the land of Israel. Remember that in order for the House of David to be fully restored and rebuilt it has to be composed of the same composition that left Egypt, received Torah and made up the glory days of King David. All twelve tribes! Any revival or restoration movement that does not include the full restoration of all twelve parts of the family and merely focuses in on two parts of the twelve parts, is not flowing in a full vision of restoration. Messianic Judaism in order to continue to experience the full last days blessings of Yahuwah, must expand it's vision to include all of Israel. The vision does not have to be changed at all and should be of no threat to Messianic Judaism's leadership, once it determines the truth of Israel's two houses and demands that Ephraim renounce all paganism and embrace the fabric of Israelite living and holiness which is Torah. The future of the last days revival of Israel and the very fabric and survival of the modern Messianic Jewish movement depends on a leadership ready to re-evaluate the preservation of Ephraim for 2,700 years amongst and as Gentiles. That is the final "Tikun HaOlam" (restoration between Judah & Ephraim), spoken of in Ezekiel 37:11-28! It is wrong for bible students & Messianic leaders to teach and believe that Judah, Ephraim, and Israel are all the same and are really analogous or synonymous interchangeable terms, whose usage varies, depending upon what mood Yahuwah is in. That is historically inaccurate as well as theologically deceptive and if Yahuwah is able to differentiate between the two still divided houses after 720 BCE, why can't we?

Go back now and read your Bible, understanding that when Yahuwah refers to the ten tribes it is always Ephraim or Israel and when He refers to the two southern tribes it is always as Judah. Try it! Your eyes will be open to the true, everlasting and final Tikun HaOlam. If you refuse to read your Bible without that foundational premise, then you are bound to find an Elohim who is repetitive, confused and throws terms around referring to two nations when there is really one. Of course based on this faulty reasoning Yahuwah is not too swift at identifying and locating the outcasts of Israel (Ephraim) either! Do you really believe that? Of course not! You and I may not know where to look for the ten tribes but rest assured Yahshua does, and that is exactly what He has been doing for two thousand years right under our collective nose, since that was His assignment according to Isaiah 49:5-6. During that same time period we were all busy fussing and fighting as two brothers engaged in sibling rivalry!

What it all boils down to is, whose report will you believe? An Israel made up of two tribes or one made up of twelve which Yahuwah Himself vowed to fill the earth with. Since He is faithful you can rest assured that almost everyone on this planet has a drop of Israelite blood since Yahuwah' blessing of physical multiplicity would fill the globe through Ephraim's banishment and subsequent intermarriage and assimilation. If the earth is full of Israelite blood how much room is there left for any other types of peoples without some Israelite blood? If this promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has been literally fulfilled only through the Jewish people alone, who continue to number only 16 million and can easily and readily be counted, censused and numbered, then the promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is an outright lie! Yahuwah lied! Sixteen million Jews does not constitute a multitude that cannot be numbered! Sixteen million or so Jews could all fit nicely into the land mass of the state of Florida. The promise of physical multiplicity was not fulfilled in Judah alone! That is a numerical and practical impossibility! The question before you is not can everyone on earth really have at least a drop of Israelite blood? The question before you is did Yahuwah lie and speak in half truths? Are we to take him at his literal word? This teaching of the two houses submits the truth that Ephraim plus Judah with a few true Gentiles (?), equals billions of human beings and from those billions (5 or 6 billion), a remnant Israel is being saved from all twelve tribes and are being reconciled to Yahuwah through the precious blood of the one who declared "I came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel"! Whose report will you believe? Those promoting separate entities and thus two Israels, one physical and the other spiritually adopted, or Yahuwah who has only one physical Israel, that is spirit filled and led, taken from all twelve tribes, with no one being adopted into physical Israel, but requiring everyone Jew and non-Jew to be adopted into Yahuwah's family! The choice is yours! Is it possible that the real reason behind the reason of saved Judah's carefree, careless attitude towards trying to discover where in the world the rest of his lost physical family really is, is nothing more than a colossal case of a self centered mindset! In Judah's defense it is perhaps possible that Judah is too busy trying to survive the Diaspora than to be concerned about finding his brother's whereabouts. Regardless of the real reason, Yahuwah only deals with these two chosen families in the earth (Jeremiah 33:24).

Is it not interesting that the promised New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34 talks about Yahuwah cutting a covenant with the House Of Israel and the House of Judah never once mentioning cutting one with Gentiles or Christians. The House of Israel mentioned in Jeremiah is Ephraim those born-again non-Jews. Remember that all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews. In the heavenly Jerusalem of Revelation 21:12 notice that all those born again folks planning on having everlasting life must enter the city through one of 12 gates, one for each of the twelve tribes. Isn't it funny and strange how Yahuwah forgot to make a gate for Christians or "saved Gentiles". The reason is that everyone in New Covenant Israel from both sides of the physical family is a blood descendent of Israel with some few exceptions. Even those exceptions become Israelites according to Torah! I'll discuss more on that in the next issue.

In Jeremiah 31:3-22 we read detailed descriptions of Ephraim (ten tribes) returning to the land. Any aliyah or any program of returning Jews to Israel to live must and will include all Israel including Ephraim. In the verse mentioned above we see the ten tribes being replanted on the mountains of Israel. Do you have a problem with that? Yahuwah doesn't! You see our vision is too small. Our vision must be the vision of Yahshua and the 12 disciples and must include a revival among all Israel, not just 2/12th's of Israel!! It was Yahshua Himself who promised the twelve talmidim a millennial rule over twelve verifiable and recognizable tribes of re-gathered millennial Israel (Matthew 19:28). Zechariah in chapter 8:22-23, specifically refers to ten men representing the ten returning tribes grabbing the tzitzit (fringes) of a Jew who has come to know Yahshua personally and declaring that they will also return to Zion and Torah. Notice that these ten returning men speak all of the world's known languages. In this passage we see the ongoing return of all Israel, to Israel!

In Yaakov (James) 1:1 Yaakov writes his epistle to the 12 tribes scattered abroad. Obviously James knew that the body of Yahshua that he was writing to was nothing more than the re-gathered 12 tribes of Israel that had been redeemed through Yahshua and he addressed them as such! If the ten tribes remained lost and nowhere to be found why would James write to them and call them brethren of faith in verse 2 of James chapter One? Obviously he had no problem with the body of Yahshua being New Covenant Israel made up of all twelve tribes and perhaps some very few exceptions. Have you ever written a post card to people that had disappeared from the earth or didn't exist? Obviously they had to exist in order to be written to and to be addressed.

Was it just Yahshua & James that had this revelation? In I Peter 1:1, Keefa writes to the chosen people living in the Diaspora. The Jewish Diaspora did not happen until 20 years after this epistle was penned in about 50 AD. Yet he refers to these other ten tribes' descendants who have come to faith as "the chosen people". Could it be that Ephraim is just as chosen as Judah? Does that burst your bubble? Poor thing! You thought that only two tribes (Jews) were chosen. The scriptures never once calls the Jewish people chosen. Rather it calls all Israel, of which the Jews are but two parts, the chosen people! Jeremiah 33:24 confirms this truth. Yahuwah states that he has chosen two houses or two clans or two nations! Got that! That is the House Of Israel and the House Of Judah. Peter wrote to the re-gathered House of Israel when addressing his epistle! You want some more New Covenant proof texts that these folks calling themselves Christians are nothing more than the physical descendants of the ten lost tribes? No problem. In First Keefa (Peter) chapter 2 verses 8-10 we see Peter quoting Hosea chapter One. The people who are a royal priesthood a chosen generation and a holy nation are identified by Keefa as nothing more than the former lo-ami and lo-ruhammah of Hosea chapter One! In verse 11 of First Keefa chapter 2, Peter says: You who are now New Covenant Priests and New Covenant Israel once were not a people (lo-ami) and had not obtained compassion and mercy (lo-ruhammah).But now through Yahshua you are restored to a people called ami and receiving ruhammah. This is a clear and direct reference attributing and labeling the body of Yahshua as containing much of the old northern kingdom of Ephraim returning because of Yahuwah's favor through the blood of Messiah.

Did Rav Shaul (Paul) also understand the re-gathering of the twelve tribes of Israel through Yahuwah's Son? Was he able to identify "Christians" in Rome as nothing more than the former House of Ephraim? You bet he did. In Romans chapter 9 verse 24 Rav Shaul states that Yahuwah calls Jews and Gentiles to make up His body as heirs of eternal life. Then in verse 25 of Romans 9 he quotes Hosea chapter One and identifies the born again redeemed Gentiles of his day as the Old Covenant House of Israel (Ephraim). He quotes the lo-ami passage of Hosea One and attributes this to "saved Gentiles". Verses 25 & 26 boldly declares this. Finally in verse 27 he puts the icing on the cake and declares that these "saved Gentiles" not only are the former house of Israel that became the "fullness of the Gentiles", but he even quotes Isaiah stating that out of the entire "sand of the sea" promise to Ephraim regarding physical multiplicity only a remnant of Israelites from all twelve tribes will be saved. Wow! Notice the transition and progression as the saved Gentiles of verse 24 in Romans 9 wind up being identified by Paul as the former house of Israel (ten tribes) spoken of by Isaiah, in the next two verses.

In Ephesians 2:11 Rav Shaul declares that those who got saved as Gentiles are no longer Gentiles! They have a new identity, and that identity is according to verse 12 a citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel. They are Israelites! You cannot be a citizen of a spiritual entity known as "the church" or any other spiritual entity. In order to be a physical citizen of the commonwealth of Massachusetts you have to be a physical being. In order for former Gentiles who by virtue of their acceptance of Messiah have become physical citizens of the house and commonwealth of Israel they must be and in fact are physical Israelites from a different side of the family than Messianic Jews. Verse 19 nails this down for us as Rav Shaul declares that these folks are no longer strangers to the house of Israel but fellow citizens. Citizenship always has been and always will be something on the physical plain. In Galatians 3:29 Rav Shaul refers to born again non Jews as the seed or sperma of Abraham. Now let me ask you an honest question! Does the Greek word for seed (sperma), from where we get the English word sperm, sound like something spiritual or something very physical? Therefore if you belong to Messiah through the new birth, regardless of who you think you are, you are Abraham's sperm! That's why verse 28 says there are no Jews, Greeks men or women there is only Abraham's physical seed that has been redeemed and should be known as new covenant Israel!

Further proof is found in Galatians 4:28 where Rav Shaul refers to non Jewish believers as being exactly like Isaac -- the heir of the physical promise of multiplicity. Was Isaac a physical being or just a spiritual being? He was a spirit-filled-and-led physical being! According to Rav Shaul, that is exactly who the non-Jewish believers are in the New Covenant! In First Corinthians 10:1 Rav Shaul reminds saved Ephraimites that they were once Gentiles, but not any longer. He reminds these non-Jewish Israelites that their fathers (Hebrews) who were led out of Egypt went through the Red Sea and eventually met the Rock (Messiah) just as they had (First Corinthians 10:1-4). In First Corinthians 5:7-8 we see these Ephraimite Israelites keeping Pesach! Only the people of Israel celebrate the Feasts Of Israel!

There are man-made teachings and teachers that place the word "spiritual" in front of the word "fathers" in First Corinthians 10:1 as well as Galatians 3:29 where they add the word "spiritual" before the word "seed", to make it seem as if Christians are only some kind of spiritual seed, or worse yet something called "spiritual Jews." May I remind these teachers that adding to the Word of Yahuwah is a capital offence punishable by death (Proverbs 30:5, Deut. 4:2, Deut.12:32, Rev 22:18). Apparently there are some who either do not understand this truth or who do understand it, but desire to continue to suppress it so that they can keep "saved Ephraimites" in perpetual second class adopted chains worshiping at the throne of Judaism instead of His Son. If non-Jewish believers were totally honest with themselves, most of them carry a deep desire and therefore inner jealousy to be Jewish. That jealousy either causes them to want to convert to any kind of Judaism, even those forms that force a recanting of faith in Yahshua's finished work, or historically the jealousy has and can still turn into raging hatred against the Jew they can never become. Those days are over! This is the day divinely decreed for the restoration of all things (Acts 3:20-21). When Ephraim begins to believe that they are part of physical Israel they will act like Israelites and return to Shabbat, kashrut, moedim, Zionism and aliyah, and will cease to be jealous of the Jews (Isaiah 11:12-14). According to these same verses the day is coming when Jews will recognize Ephraim as their physical brothers in much the same way that all Jacob's sons came to recognize Joseph in Egypt. They thought he was a Gentile and all the while Joseph was an Israelite. Whether Judah recognizes born-again non-Jews as Ephraim does not change the fact that they, like Joseph, are unrecognizable to their brothers. Yet still like Joseph, Ephraim is Joseph's son and Jacob's grandson and is in fact an Israelite experiencing the same lack of recognition that his father Joseph experienced in Egypt. Joseph knew them but they knew not Joseph. Today large segments of Ephraim recognizes chosen, born-again Judah, yet Judah cannot and often will not recognize born-again Ephraim! Yahuwah declares that this vexation of Ephraim by Judah will come to an end through Messiah (Isaiah 11:13-14), when He gathers the outcasts of Israel and the dispersed of Judah from all the earth. Notice how Judah was never outcast like Ephraim, only dispersed.

In Yochanan 10:16 Yahshua said "other sheep I have which are not of this fold. I have to bring them in as well. And they shall hear my voice and there shall be one flock and one shepherd". Notice that Yahshua had another Israelite flock that were still His fold even before He died and arose again. He did not say that he will create a new and separate fold called "the church" made up of pagans with separate practices replacing Torah sometime after His resurrection. He said that He already had two folds -- that He was sent to bring them in, and they will become one flock or one united house.

John (Yochanan) knew the same truth by virtue of his writings in Yochanan (11:49-52). John stated that when Ciaphas prophesied that it was good that Yahshua was dying for Judah, John added that Ciaphas was prophesying that Yahshua would not only die for that nation (Judah), but also the former house of Israel that were scattered abroad 721 years prior to Yahshua's birth! We know this is a reference to the House of Israel (ten tribes) since he calls them a nation (physical people), as well as children of Elohim! They were called children of Israel because Elohim is the Elohim of Israel and they were Israel or children of Elohim even before Yahshua went to the tree of Korban! Notice that the Father's' revealed plan in verse 52 of chapter 11 of John is to gather both nations or houses into one. Even at the time of Yahshua, people's eyes and hearts were being opened to the truth about the family feud perpetuated by Jacob widened by Jeroboam and Rehoboam and in the last two millennia inflamed by the Church vs. Jewish battle royal over the title of who is Israel! The question is fully answered when one realizes that there is only one people of Israel with one Elohim of Israel and one Messiah of Israel and one Torah of Israel and that both houses need to follow the same blueprint for the restoration of all Israel on a level playing field of common ground. Only with the full understanding of the divided two houses of Israel, will the hatred, bitterness, pride and arrogance of Christendom and Judaism towards each other come to a quick and deserving death. Any other solution to the Church vs. Jewish debate will result in more misunderstanding between brethren and the perpetuation of the family feud started by Jacob splitting the birthright between Ephraim and Judah though both were physical and spiritual Israel.

It is comforting to note that according to Isaiah 49 verses 1-6 the Messiah is promised to all Israel and is even referred to as Israel, since Israel's restoration is the personification and primary purpose of His mission. Hosea 11:1 also calls The Messiah, Israel! In Isaiah 49 verse six, we see the Father asking Him if He is prepared to raise up the twelve tribes of Israel by bringing back into the fold those who, though scattered and lost as a nation, would be individually preserved in and amongst the Gentiles in the four corners of the earth for the Messiah's ministry. He did come. He did go looking for preserved individuals physically descended from Ephraim and Judah and has in fact restored these preserved ones. Though these preserved ones may not know who they are, though they may look, act, smell, behave and conduct themselves with all of their father Jeroboam's filthy ways, our Messiah knew where to locate them. He has located them and He has brought them back to the fold on an individual basis not a national basis, as of yet. Interestingly enough the Hebrew word for preserved ones in Isaiah 49:6 is Notzrim or Nazarenes, which is the modern Hebrew word for Christians. It is these preserved born again Ephraimites that would be re-gathered in to the rebuilt Tabernacle of David and would return to the fold of Israel as Nazarenes. Let us recall that the entire early Messianic communities were known as The Nazarenes (Acts 24:5), the preserved ones of returning repentant Israel!



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Level: Basic
• Israel is the land promised to Abraham in the Bible
• Israel is central to the Jewish religion
• Zionism is a political movement to establish a Jewish homeland
• Israel is a democratic country
• Israel is home to more than 1/3 of the world's Jews
• 20% of Israel's citizens are not Jewish

The Promised Land


The history of the Jewish people begins with Abraham, and the story of Abraham begins when G-d tells him to leave his homeland, promising Abraham and his descendants a new home in the land of Canaan. (Gen. 12). This is the land now known as Israel, named after Abraham's grandson, whose descendants are the Jewish people. The land is often referred to as the Promised Land because of G-d's repeated promise (Gen. 12:7, 13:15, 15:18, 17:Cool to give the land to the descendants of Abraham.

The land is described repeatedly in the Torah as a good land and "a land flowing with milk and honey" (e.g., Ex. 3:Cool. This description may not seem to fit well with the desert images we see on the nightly news, but let's keep in mind that the land was repeatedly abused by conquerors who were determined to make the land uninhabitable for the Jews. In the few decades since the Jewish people regained control of the land, we have seen a tremendous improvement in its agriculture. Israeli agriculture today has a very high yield.

Jews have lived in this land continuously from the time of its original conquest by Joshua more than 3200 years ago until the present day, though Jews were not always in political control of the land, and Jews were not always the majority of the land's population.

The land of Israel is central to Judaism. A substantial portion of Jewish law is tied to the land of Israel, and can only be performed there. Some rabbis have declared that it is a mitzvah (commandment) to take possession of Israel and to live in it (relying on Num. 33:53). The Talmud indicates that the land itself is so holy that merely walking in it can gain you a place in the World to Come. Prayers for a return to Israel and Jerusalem are included in daily prayers as well as many holiday observances and special events.

Living outside of Israel is viewed as an unnatural state for a Jew. The world outside of Israel is often referred to as "galut," which is usually translated as "diaspora" (dispersion), but a more literal translation would be "exile" or "captivity." When we live outside of Israel, we are living in exile from our land.

Jews were exiled from the land of Israel by the Romans in 135 C.E., after they defeated the Jews in a three-year war, and Jews did not have any control over the land again until 1948 C.E.

Zionism and the Formation of the State of Israel
The Jewish people never gave up hope that we would someday return to our home in Israel. That hope is expressed in the song Ha-Tikvah (The Hope), the anthem of the Zionist movement and the state of Israel.
Kol od baleivav p'nima
Nefesh Y'hudi homiya
Ul'fa-atey mizrach kadima
Ayin L'Tziyon tzofiya
Od lo avda tikvateynu
Hatikva bat sh'not alpayim
Lih'yot am chofshi b'artzenu
Eretz Tziyon v'yirushalayim.
Lih'yot am chofshi b'artzenu
Eretz Tziyon v'yirushalayim.

As long as deep within the heart
The Jewish soul is warm
And toward the edges of the east
An eye to Zion looks
Our hope is not yet lost,
The hope of two thousand years
To be a free people in our own land
In the land of Zion and Jerusalem.
To be a free people in our own land
In the land of Zion and Jerusalem.



But for a long time, this desire for our homeland was merely a vague hope without any concrete plans to achieve it. In the late 1800s, Theodor Herzl and Chaim Weizmann founded Zionism, a political movement dedicated to the creation of a Jewish state. They saw a state of Israel as a necessary refuge for Jewish victims of oppression, especially in Russia, where pogroms were decimating the Jewish population.

The name "Zionism" comes from the word "Zion," which was the name of a stronghold in Jerusalem. Over time, the term "Zion" came to be applied to Jerusalem in general, and later to the Jewish idea of utopia.

Zionism was not a religious movement; it was a primarily political. The early Zionists sought to establish a secular state of Israel, recognized by the world, through purely legal means. Theodor Herzl, for example, was a completely assimilated secular Jewish journalist. He felt little attachment to his Jewish heritage until he covered the trial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish captain in the French military who was (unjustly) convicted of passing secrets to Germany. The charges against Dreyfus brought out a wave of anti-Jewish sentiment that shocked Herzl into realizing the need for a Jewish state. Early Zionists were so desperate for a refuge at one point that they actually considered a proposal to create a Jewish homeland in Uganda. Alaska and Siberia were also discussed. But the only land that truly inspired Jewish people worldwide was our ancient homeland, at that time a part of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire known as Palestine.

During World War I, the Zionist cause gained some degree of support from Great Britain. In a 1917 letter from British foreign secretary Lord Balfour to Jewish financier Lord Rothschild, the British government expressed a commitment to creating a Jewish homeland in Palestine. This letter is commonly known as the Balfour Declaration. Unfortunately, the British were speaking out of both sides of their mouth, simultaneously promising Arabs their freedom if they helped to defeat the Ottoman Empire, which at that time controlled most of the Middle East (including the modern states of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as significant portions of Saudi Arabia and northern Africa). The British promised the Arabs that they would limit Jewish settlement in Palestine mere months after the Balfour Declaration expressed support for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."

After World War I, Palestine was assigned to the United Kingdom as a mandated territory by the newly-formed League of Nations. The Palestinian Mandate initially included the lands that are now Israel and Jordan, but all lands east of the Jordan River were later placed into a separate mandate known as Transjordan (now the nation of Jordan). The document creating the Palestinian mandate incorporated the terms of the Balfour Declaration, promising the creation of a national Jewish homeland within the mandated territory. Many Arab leaders were initially willing to give Palestine to the Jews if the rest of the Arab lands in the Middle East were under Arab control. However, the Arabs living in Palestine vigorously opposed Jewish immigration into the territory and the idea of a Jewish homeland. It is around this time that the idea of Palestinian nationality (distinct from Arab nationality generally) first begins to appear. There were many riots in the territory, and the British came to believe that the conflicting claims were irreconcilable. In 1937, the British recommended partition of the territory.

The Holocaust brought the need for a Jewish homeland into sharp focus for both Jews and for the rest of the world. The Jews who tried to flee Nazi Germany were often turned back due to immigration limitations at the borders of every country, including the United States, Britain and Palestine. Many of those who were sent back to Germany ended up in death camps where they were systematically murdered.

The British were unable to come up with a solution that would satisfy either Arabs or Jews, so in 1947, they handed the problem to the newly-founded United Nations, which developed a partition plan dividing Palestine into Jewish and Arab portions. The plan was ratified in November 1947. The mandate expired on May 14, 1948 and British troops pulled out of Palestine. The Jews of Palestine promptly declared the creation of the State of Israel, which was recognized by several Western countries immediately.

However, the surrounding Arab nations did not recognize the validity of Israel and invaded, claiming that they were filling a vacuum created by the termination of the mandate and the absence of any legal authority to replace it. The Arabs fought a year-long war to drive the Jews out. Miraculously, the new state of Israel won this war, as well as every subsequent Arab-Israeli war, gaining territory every time the Arabs attacked them.

Israel Today
Today, approximately five million Jews, more than a third of the world's Jewish population, live in the land of Israel. Jews make up more than eighty percent of the population of the land, and Jews are in political control of the land, though non-Jews who become citizens of Israel have the same legal rights as Jewish citizens of Israel. In fact, there are a few Arab members of the Knesset (the Israeli parliament).

About half of all Israelis are Mizrachim, descended from Jews who have been in the land since ancient times or who were forced out of Arab countries after Israel was founded. Most of the rest are Ashkenazic, descended from Jews who fled persecution in Eastern Europe starting in the late 1800s, from Holocaust survivors, or from other immigrants who came at various times. About 1% of the Israeli population are the black Ethiopian Jews who fled during the brutal Ethiopian famine in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Jews continue to immigrate to Israel in large numbers. Immigration to Israel is referred to as aliyah (literally, ascension). Under Israel's Law of Return, any Jew who has not renounced the Jewish faith (by converting to another religion) can automatically become an Israeli citizen, somewhat similar to the way Ireland gives automatic citizenship to second or third generation descendants of Irish citizens. Gentiles may also become citizens of Israel after undergoing a standard naturalization process, much like the one required to become a United States citizen.

Israel is governed by a legislative body called the Knesset (literally, "Assembly"), made up of 120 members. Under the Israeli electoral system, each party presents a list of candidates, and voters vote for the list rather than for individual candidates. The party receives a number of seats proportional to the number of votes it received, thus a party getting 10% of the vote will get 10% of the available seats. As a result, no Israeli party ever has a majority of the seats in the Knesset, and governmental business is conducted by coalition building. This system can give minority groups a significant amount of power, because their support may be needed to gain a majority. Israel also has a president, elected by the Knesset, and a Prime Minister, formerly elected directly but this system is in flux.

Most Jews today support the existence of the state of Israel, though not necessarily all of the policies of its government (as one would expect in any democracy). There are a small number of secular Jews who are anti-Zionist. There is also a very small group of right-wing Orthodox Jews who object to the existence of the state of Israel, maintaining that it is a sin for us to create a Jewish state when the messiah has not yet come. However, this viewpoint does not reflect the mainstream opinion of Orthodoxy. Most Orthodox Jews support the existence of the state of Israel as a homeland, even though it is not the theological state of Israel that will be brought about by the messiah.

Israel Links
This page barely scratches the surface of all there is to say about Israel and Zionism. There are entire sites devoted to these subjects. Here are a few that are worth checking out:

For an interesting perspective on the situation in Israel today, check out The Long Road to the Promised Land, a blog written by Gunter David. Gunter is a retired American journalist who grew up in the land that is now Israel before Israel became a state. His wife's family was in that land for four generations, and both of them have family in Israel. It hasn't been updated in quite some time, but it's an interesting read nonetheless.

Virtual Jerusalem is a great place to start your search for information about Israel. The site is based in Israel, and has lots of useful information, including Israeli news, travel information, information about making aliyah, and lots of great links.

You can also find a lot of useful information and links in Shamash's Israel section.

If you are interested in the history of Zionism, you may want to read the founding treatise on the subject, Theodor Herzl's The Jewish State, which you can buy from amazon.com by clicking the title above.



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Israel has endured for more then 3,000 years, the 1,000 year reich lasted 13 years. thumbs up

Middle East News and Reference

http://www.mideastweb.org/


Zionism & Israel Information Center

http://www.zionism-israel.com/

The word Zion/Tsiyon has 3 aspects of meaning: Spiritual, Geographical and Political. thumbs up

1: Spiritual:

http://www.mashiyach.com/kingdom/kingdom.htm

Mashiyach/Yahshua/Jesus teaches us that whoever wants to be "the greatest" in his Kingdom would be the servant of all. Being a "servant of all" means that a leader opens himself to be used by the Father to reach out to whomever He desires, as opposed to having a his or her own "little flock". The Kingdom of Elohim is represented by Tsiyon (pronounced Tsee-yone or Zion in English), a literal place in Jerusalem, that symbolizes a spiritual place, the seat of Mashiyach's government on this earth. Originally Zion was a small location in Jerusalem, then it became a code name for the whole city of Jerusalem.



For it is said in the Scripture, “Behold, in Tsiyon I lay a chosen and precious stone for the head of the corner; and whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.” On you therefore who believe is this honor conferred: but to them who do not believe “he is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” And they stumble at it because they believe not the Word from where they were appointed. But you are an elect race, officiating as priests of the Kingdom; a Set Apart people, a redeemed congregation; that you should proclaim the praises of him who called you out of darkness to his precious light: who formerly were not counted as a people but now are the people of Elohim; and also, there were (once) no mercies on you but now mercies are poured out upon you. My beloved, I entreat you as strangers and pilgrims, separate yourselves from all lusts of the body, for they war against the soul. And let your behavior be honorable before all men; so that they who utter evil speeches against you, may see your good actions and may praise Elohim in the day of trial. And be submissive to all the sons of men, for Elohim’s sake; to kings, on account of their authority; and to judges because they are sent by him for the punishment of offenders, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of Elohim, that by your good deeds you may stop the mouth of the foolish who do not know Elohim: As free men, you are not like men who make their freedom a cloak for their wickedness, but as the servants of Elohim. 1 Peter 2:6-16




Throughout Scripture we read of a Kingdom that is not of this earth, but it is shaped from the pattern that is in Heaven. The tabernacle in the wilderness was built according to the specifications that YHWH gave to Moses and within that tabernacle, each of the physical elements are symbols of the spiritual or heavenly Kingdom. It is also interesting to note that Zion is mentioned in 153 verses in the Tanakh... this is the same number of fish the disciples caught in John 21:11. The symbolism is clear, Yeshua taught his disciples how to build the Kingdom of Heaven, as opposed to a religion "about" the Kingdom of Heaven, a very big difference.



We are being trained to know what Tsiyon is, and what it is not. No religion or people's groups have exclusive rights to Tsiyon, it belongs to the people of Mashiyach regardless of religion, race, color or creed. The Government of Tsiyon is on the shoulder of Mashiyach. Mashiyach is returning to the Mount of Olives from whence he departed, but this time round Scripture tells us he will be Mashiyach Ben David a much different scenario than when he first came to earth.



There is the Israel of Elohim (spiritual) and there is the other kingdom of Israel of the flesh. Not all who are Israel of the flesh are the Israel of Elohim. If we can look at Jews, Christians or Muslims without judging them by their religion or race, then we are getting closer to ZION, as how it is revealed in Mashiyach. The Kingdom of Elohim is a government, NOT a religion.



Tsiyon is also the place in our neshama (spirit) where we connect with Mashiyach where our heart receives and gives love for all of Creation, where we can see all others through the eyes of Mashiyach and carry no prejudice towards anyone. The Kingdom is within us, it is not an external government or religion. Over the centuries there have been many Zionist movements who entrapped adherents into a nationalistic or global vision not of spiritual Zion but simply another ploy to gain control and power through labor, politics, wealth and strategies for power. The oligarchs of have big designs on greater and greater world dictatorial power which they borrowed from Nimrod, the original representative of anti-Messiah and anti-Zion.



Today there are Christian Zionists who love the Jewish people and support the land of Israel, a Zionism on a practical and natural level benefitng Jews and Christians according to the Covenant of Faith YHWH gave to Avraham. However the majority of Christendom is anti-Zionist, nurtured by replacement theology and dispensationalism and therefore anti-Zionist when it comes to the Kingdom of Elohim. Christians tend to be partisan, biased and dualistic towards Judaism and Islam which is viewed as a competitive religion. Christians see themselves as exclusive inheritors of the promises, they don't see a future for Jews or Muslims except wrath of the Almighty YHWH for them not converting to Christianity. Most Muslims have the same partisan thinking as Christians and view Christians and all other non-Muslims as infidels. Jews don't view Christians and Muslims going off to burning eternal hell, but rather that each individual is judged on the merits of their lifestyle choices regardless of religious persuasion. In other words we are judged by how we live, more than by which religious affiliation we are part of, this is more consistent with a universal Government that operates outside of a religion.



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2: Geographical: Jerusalem from Mt. Zion.

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3: Political Zionism & Israel Information Center
http://www.zionism-israel.com/

Why is Zionism Controversial?
Many peoples have had movements of national liberation.

Is Zionism different?
About Zionism
What is Zionism?
Zionism is the political movement that is implementing the national liberation of the Jewish people. It is based on the assertion that the Jewish people, like any other people, has the right to self-determination; Jews have a right to a national home in their historic homeland. Zionism has made a reality of the "impossible" project of restoration of the Jewish people to our homeland, after nearly 2,000 years of exile. The work of Zionism is far from complete, however.

Zionism has always been a part of Judaism
The ideological and cultural foundations of Zionism have always been present in Jewish tradition. Jews always thought of themselves as a nation or people. The concept of "am Yisrael" - the "people of Israel" or "nation of Israel," has been inherent in Jewish culture from ancient times. Jewish cultural and religious life always centered around the land of Israel. This did not change during two millennia of dispersion.

History of Zionism
The modern ideological expression of Zionism began to take shape in the nineteenth century. Jews freed from the ghetto found that they could not, or did not want to, assimilate and lose their Jewishness, while at the same time, they could be part of a medieval religion whose time had passed. They came to the understanding that Jews are a people as well as a religion, and made explicit what had been implicit in Jewish culture. Various thinkers such as Moses Hess and Leon Pinsker wrote the first real Zionist ideological manifestos, and the Chovevei Tzion and BILU groups organized Zionist immigration to the land of Israel on a small scale.

Zionism becomes a political movement
Zionism became a political movement with the first Zionist congress in 1897, organized by Theodor Herzl. The conference turned an intellectual "movement," scattered around Europe, into a political force, and provided a clear goal: the achievement of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine, guaranteed by international law. Beyond this symbolic step, the conference was in reality a rather modest milestone. Without the support of the Jewish masses and rich financiers, it was hard for Zionism to show great concrete achievements. Without such achievements, it was hard for Zionism to win the support of the Jewish masses for a project that seemed hopeless and Quixotic. Tenacity, gradualism, pragmatism, courage and daring leveraged the tiny, gradually accumulated achievements of Zionism from a few people in a conference hall to a movement, from a movement in Europe to Jewish settlement in the land of Israel, from a few settlements to the British mandate, from the mandate to a Jewish state.

Zionism achieves a first goal
The first stage on the way to attaining a Jewish national home was the Balfour Declaration, secured for the Zionist organization through the efforts of Chaim Weizmann and others. In it, the British government promised to support the creation of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. When the Balfour declaration was incorporated in the League of Nations mandate for Palestine in 1922, it became international law. The United Nations inherited the obligations of the League of nations. Therefore, the state of Israel is the result of a promise backed by international law, and not an "illegal entity" as anti-Zionists claim.

Zionism creates the State of Israel
An important tenet of Zionism was the understanding that the Jews of Europe were in danger, that Anti-Semitism would continue to rise and become increasingly virulent. Therefore, Zionists understood that there was some urgency about their work. Most of the world, and most of the Jews of the world, did not understand the urgency until after the rise of Nazism, when it was too late. Not even the Zionists could imagine the horrors of the Holocaust however.

The Arabs of Palestine, led by the Nazi Grand Mufti Hajj Amin Al Husseini, agitated against Jewish immigration and began a revolt in 1936. The revolt was evidently funded and supported by the axis powers in order to fight the British. The British reneged on their promise to create a national home for the Jews in Palestine, and shut the gates of Palestine to Jewish immigration in 1939 with the White Paper. The Zionist leadership despaired of the British and in 1942, when they thought it was still possible to save some of the Jews of Europe, they adopted the Biltmore Program, calling for an independent Jewish state.

After World War II, it was discovered that the Nazis had murdered six million Jews, virtually all the Jews of Europe. A tiny remnant remained and wanted to immigrate to Palestine, but the British would not allow it. The Jews turned against the British and using guerilla warfare, forced them to relinquish their hold on Palestine, which was partitioned by UN General Assembly Resolution 181 into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Arabs did not accept the decision of the UN. Open warfare broke out. After the Declaration of Independence of the State of Israel on May 15, 1948, neighboring Arab countries invaded the new state. 600,000 Jews fought off the armies of four Arab states, backed by others who had declared war, but did not send troops, in the Israel War of Independence. The creation of the state did not end the mission of Zionism, since the new Jewish state was surrounded by enemies and since most Jews still did not live in Israel.

For a detailed history of Zionism, see History of Zionism

Achievements of Zionism - Zionism is the ideological success story of the twentieth century, overcoming seemingly insuperable obstacles to realize an impossible dream. The story of Zionism challenges the imagination. Zionism revived a dying people and brought them back to their land. Zionism changed the image of the land and of the people.

Zionism in Israel - Zionism brought water to a thirsty country. The Israel national water carrier pumps more water in a day than was consumed in all of Palestine in 1948. Thanks to Zionism, glass and steel towers rose from sand dunes; the forgotten and disease ridden armpit of the Ottoman Empire became the most technologically advanced society in the Middle East, where both Arabs and Jews enjoy a higher standard of living than anywhere else in the Middle East, except the petroleum sheikhdoms, the highest literacy rates in the Middle East, and the lowest infant mortality. Zionism benefited Jews and Arabs. The average Israeli Arab enjoys a higher standard of living than the average citizen of oil-rich Saudi Arabia.

Zionist Revolution - Zionism was more than a political movement to obtain a homeland for the Jewish people. Zionism proposed, and carried out, a revolution within Jewish thought and culture. Zionism gave a new life to the ancient Hebrew language. Zionism changed the image of the Jewish people. Thanks to Zionism, merchants and students and peddlers came out of the ghetto to become Jewish mechanics, Jewish farmers, Jewish engineers and Jewish soldiers. Zionism made the "impossible" into reality. Zionism ended "the longest occupation in history" - the occupation of the land of Israel.

Benefits of Zionism - Zionism benefited Diaspora Jews as well as those living in Israel, Zionists and anti-Zionists, because it gave a different meaning to the reviled word "Jew." Zionism helped to save people and salvage the vestiges of the dignity and honor of the Jewish people in the Holocaust, bringing boatloads of immigrants to Mandate Palestine in the "illegal" immigration, sending parachutists behind enemy lines to save Jews and help the allied war effort, and leading ghetto revolts and partisan groups. By creating and defending the state of Israel, Zionism ended the 2,000 year nightmare during which Jews were despised and persecuted by almost every nation in the world, through no fault of our own.


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Anti- Zionism
What is anti-Zionism?
The basic premise of Zionism is that Jews have the same rights to nationhood as any other people. Anti-Zionism is based on the racist thesis that Jews are somehow different.

Zionism is opposed by a variety of groups:

Jewish anti-Zionism
Jewish religious anti-Zionism arose out of fear that a secular ideology would supplant religion as the mainstay of Judaism and a phobia of change. Jews had "always" lived in ghettos in the Diaspora, and therefore Jews must continue the tradition, according to religious anti-Zionists. Anti-Zionist ultra-orthodox Jews like the Neturei Karta regularly meet with and praise anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers like Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, agreeing with him that the Holocaust was exaggerated, and lending "legitimacy" to anti-Semitic myths. In practise, anti-Zionist Jews tend toward paradoxical Anti-Semitism. Assimilationist Jews were afraid that Zionism, with its insistence on Jewish nationhood, would hinder acceptance of Jews as equals in European nation-states. Marxist Jews and non-Jews opposed Zionism as a "reactionary" nationalist tendency, but later, paradoxically, came to support every "national liberation movement" except Zionism.

Anti-Semitism, Marxism and anti-Zionism
The largest recruiting base for Anti-Zionism is simple racist anti-Semitism. Neo-Marxist radicals denounce Zionism as racism, starting from the premise that Zionism was a colonialist movement, and that all colonialism is racism. The notion that Zionism is racism was probably spawned by the Soviet doctrine of "Zionology," an anti-Semitic ideological invention that was aimed as much at bolstering state-sponsored anti-Semitism as it was intended to support the anti-Israel policies of the Soviet government.

Arab anti-Zionism
Most Arabs oppose Zionism because they believe that the entire Middle East belongs to them, and they encouraged the development of an opposing Palestinian (Arab) national identity. The creation of a Jewish national home and later, of the state of Israel, was increasingly opposed by the Arab states, and by the Arabs of Palestine.

Muslim and Islamist anti-Zionism
Most Muslims oppose Zionism and the existence of Israel, for different reasons. Some believe that all land that was once part of the Muslim territory (Dar al-Islam) must remain Muslim. For that reason, those opposed to Zionism sometimes also want to retake al Andalus (Spain). Some associate Zionism with the Christian Crusades, which conquered Palestine briefly and were viewed as an intrusion and an insult. Many Muslim leaders are afraid of Western ideas of progress and human rights, such as equality for women and homosexuals, that are transmitted through Zionism, as well as scientific doctrines that they view as pernicious such as evolution.

Anti-Zionism today
Current attitudes to Zionism, and the current image of Zionism, are influenced by the Israeli occupation of lands conquered in the Six day War, including the Golan Heights and the West Bank (Judea and Samaria). Anti-Zionism often insists that Zionism is identical with "Greater Israel" and "Likud" ideology, though Israel has repeatedly offered to withdraw from conquered territories in return for peace, and most Zionists support a two state solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Some advocates of the Arab cause insist that the conflict began in 1967. However, Arab opposition to Jewish presence and settlement in Palestine began long before the creation of the Jewish State in 1948, and violent attacks on Israel are still initiated from Gaza, though Israel, under Likud party leadership, withdrew from Gaza.

False claims of anti-Zionism
Contrary to the claims of anti-Zionists, Zionism did not seek to set up a "Jewish exclusivist" state in the land of Israel, or plot to expel the Arabs of Palestine, nor was Zionism ever a militaristic, fascist type movement, though there were militaristic Zionists. Zionism was a non-militaristic movement in its foundation, rather pacifist in orientation. Early Zionists ignored the claims of Arab nationalism, because there was no Arab nationalism evident in the land of Israel, and because of their own ignorance of actual conditions in the land. Beginning about 1905, Zionists took cognizance of Arab nationalism, but usually assumed that Zionism and Arab nationalism could work together, and that Zionism could benefit the Arabs of Palestine. Theodor Herzl's utopia, Altneuland, described the future Jewish state as a multipluralistic democracy where Jews and Arabs lived as equals.

The enemies of Zionism tend to identify "Zionism" with the worst and most unfortunate acts of misguided extremists. They insist that Zionism is racism, and accuse Zionism of crimes ranging to deliberately planning to expel the Arabs to instigating the French Revolution. They often paint all Zionists as religious fanatics from Brooklyn intent on rebuilding the third temple, murdering or expelling the Arabs of Palestine and creating a "Jewish exclusivist" state that encompasses huge areas of the Middle East. They depict Zionism as a "pernicious plot" that controls European and American governments, just as anti-Semites depicted Jews as plotting to subvert governments and achieve world domination. They insist, nonetheless, that they are not anti-Semitic, though they deny the right of the Jews to self-determination
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The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nationalism an d Islamic Jihad
http://media0.terrorismawareness.org/files/NaziRoots.pdf

The Muslim Brotherhood and the Nazis
The ideology of the Islamists whose ranks today include not only
al-Qaeda but also Hamas and Hezbollah -- originated with Egypt’s
Muslim Brotherhood (al- khwan al- uslimoon) I m founded in 1928 by
Sheikh Hassan al-Banna.2 And the Muslim Brotherhood finds not
just its roots, but much of its symbolism, terminology, and political
priorities deep within the heart of Nazi fascism.
Hassan al-Banna (1906 - 1949) was born into the family of a poor
watchmaker in southern Egypt. As a child, he was attracted to the
extremist and xenophobic aspects of Islam which were hostile to
Western secularism and to its system of rights, particularly women’s
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad / rights. While still in his teens, the young al-Banna and friends (they
referred to each other as ‘brethren’) met frequently to discuss the
situation in the Middle East, to argue about the ills of Arab society,
and to lament the decline of Islam. Their angst was in large part
a reaction to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the end of the
Muslim Caliphate, the British occupation of Egypt, and the resulting
exposure of Arab society to Western values.
For al-Banna, as for many other Muslims worldwide, the end of
the caliphate, although brought about by secular Muslim Turks, was a
sacrilege against Islam for which they blamed the non-Muslim West.
It was to strike back against these evils that al-Banna founded the
Muslim Brotherhood in 1928. It began as a kind of youth club where
the members preached, to anyone who would listen, about the need
for moral reform in the Arab world. But al-Banna’s antipathy towards
Western modernity soon moved him to shape the Brotherhood into
an organization seeking to check the secularist tendencies in Muslim
society by asserting a return to ancient and traditional Islamic
values. Al-Banna recruited followers from a vast cross-section of
Egyptian society by addressing issues such as colonialism, public
health, educational policy, natural resources management, social
inequalities, Arab nationalism, the weakness of the Islamic world
and the growing conflict in Palestine. Among the perspectives he
drew on to address these issues were the anti-capitalist doctrines of
European Marxism and especially fascism.
As the group expanded during the 1930’s and extended its activities
well beyond its original religious revivalism, al-Banna began
dreaming a greater Muslim dream: the restoration of the Caliphate.
And it was this dream, which he believed could only become a reality
by the sword, that won the hearts and minds of a growing legion of
followers. Al-Banna would describe, in inflammatory speeches, the
horrors of hell expected for heretics, and consequently, the need for
Muslims to return to their purest religious roots, re-establish the
Caliphate, and resume the great and final holy war, or jihad, against
the non-Muslim world.
The first big step on the path to the international jihad al-Banna
envisioned came in the form of trans-national terrorism during “The
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad /
Great Arab Revolt” of 1936-9, when one of the most famous of the
Muslim Brotherhood’s leaders, the Hajj Amin al-Husseini, Grand
Mufti (Supreme Muslim religious leader) of Jerusalem, incited his
followers to a three-year war against the Jews in Palestine and the
British who administered the Mandate. In 1936 the Brotherhood had
about 800 members, but by 1938, just two years into the “Revolt,”
its membership had grown to almost 200,000, with fifty branches in
Egypt alone. The organization established mosques, schools, sport
clubs, factories and a welfare service network. By the end of the
1930’s there were more than a half million active members registered,
in more than two thousand branches across the Arab world. In
British Mandatory Palestine alone there were 38 branches under the
leadership of the Hajj.
To achieve that broader dream of a global jihad, the Brotherhood
developed a network of underground cells, stole weapons, trained
fighters, formed secret assassination squads, founded sleeper cells of
subversive supporters in the ranks of the army and police, and waited
for the order to go public with terrorism, assassinations, and suicide
missions.3
It was during this time that the Muslim Brotherhood found a soul
mate in Nazi Germany. The Reich offered great power connections to
the movement, but the relationship brokered by the Brotherhood was
more than a marriage of convenience. Long before the war, al-Banna
had developed an Islamic religious ideology which previewed Hitler’s
Nazism. Both movements sought world conquest and domination.
Both were triumphalist and supremacist: in Nazism the Aryan
must rule, while in al-Banna’s Islam, the Muslim religion must hold
dominion. Both advocated subordination of the individual to a folkish
central power. Both were explicitly anti-nationalist in the sense that
they believed in the liquidation of the nation-state in favor of a
trans-national unifying community: in Islam the umma (community
of all believers); and in Nazism the herrenvolk (master race). Both
worshipped the unifying totalitarian figure of the Caliph or Führer.
And both rabidly hated the Jews and sought their destruction.
As the Brotherhood’s political and military alliance with Nazi
Germany developed, these parallels facilitated practical interactions
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad / that created a full-blown alliance, with all the pomp and panoply of
formal state visits, de facto ambassadors, and overt as well as sub
rosa joint ventures. Al-Banna’s followers easily transplanted into the
Arab world a newly Nazified form of traditional Muslim Jew-hatred,
with Arab translations of Mein Kampf (translated into Arabic as “My
Jihad”) and other Nazi anti-Semitic works, including Der Sturmer
hate-cartoons, adapted to portray the Jew as the demonic enemy of
Allah.4
When the Second World War broke out, Al-Banna worked to
firm up a formal alliance with Hitler and Mussolini. He sent them
letters and emissaries, and urged them to assist him in his struggle
against the British and the westernized regime of King Farouk.
The Intelligence Service of the Muslim Brotherhood vigorously
collected information on the heads of the regime in Cairo and on
the movements of the British army, offering this and more to the
Germans in return for closer relations.
Enter the Palestinians
But the single best known and most active Nazi sympathizer in the
Muslim Brotherhood was not al-Banna himself, but the Hajj Amin
al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and one-time President of
the Supreme Muslim Council of Palestine. As one commentator has
noted, to understand the Hajj’s influence on the Middle East in the
1930s and 40s is to understand the ongoing genocidal program of the
Arab terrorist organizations warring against the Jews of Israel today.
The Grand Mufti was a bridge figure in terms of transplanting the
Nazi genocide in Europe into the post-war Middle East and creating
a fascist heritage for the Palestinian national movement.5
Something of a child prodigy, Amin al-Husseini was born into
the rich and influential clan of the Husseinis in 1895. He became
a powerful anti-Jewish agitator and rabble rouser while still in his
early 20’s, and then suddenly, by fiat, he was chosen as the Grand
Mufti of Jerusalem at the age of 27. It was an unlikely occurrence:
A mufti is an elected religious leader with great spiritual status
and influence. When Jerusalem’s preceding Mufti, Kamel al-
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad /
Husseini, died in March of 1921, he should have been replaced by
the accepted Ottoman process whereby the Mufti was selected from
among three worthy and experienced candidates nominated by the
Muslim Council of Jerusalem. But figures in the British Mandatory
Government anxious to blunt the growing Zionism in the region,
elevated the Jew-hating al-Husseini to this role, although he had been
sentenced to ten years in prison for his role in inciting the anti-Jewish
riots of 1919 and 1920, in which scores of Jews in Jerusalem and
Jaffa were attacked, raped, and killed.
Al-Husseini used his office as a powerful bully pulpit from which
to preach anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, and (turning on his patrons) anti-
British vitriol. He was directly involved in the organization of the
1929 riots which destroyed the 3000-year-old Jewish community of
Hebron. And he was quick to see that he had a natural ally in Hitler
and in the rising star of Nazi Germany.
In the early 1930’s many Arabs in British Mandatory Palestine
looked for an alliance with Hitler as leverage against Britain, but
it was al-Husseini who enthusiastically led the way. As early as
spring 1933 , he assured the German consul in Jerusalem that “the
Muslims inside and outside Palestine welcome the new regime of
Germany and hope for the extension of the fascist, anti-democratic
governmental system to other countries.”6
The youth organization established by the Mufti used Nazi
emblems, names and uniforms. Germany reciprocated by setting up
scholarships for Arab students, hiring Arab apprentices at German
firms, and inviting Arab party leaders to the Nuremberg party
rallies and Arab military leaders to Wehrmacht maneuvers. Most
significantly, the German Propaganda Ministry developed strong
links with the Grand Mufti and with Arabic newspapers, creating
a propaganda legacy that would outlast Husseini, Hitler, and all the
other figures of World War II.
In September 1937, Adolf Eichmann and another SS officer
carried out an exploratory mission in the Middle East lasting several
weeks, and including a friendly productive visit with the Grand
Mufti. It was after that visit, in fact, that the Mufti went on the Nazi
payroll as an agent and propagandist.7
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad / 10 During the “Great Arab Revolt” of 1936-9, which al-Husseini
helped organize and which Germany funded, the swastika was used
as a mark of identity on Arabic leaflets and graffiti. Arab children
welcomed each other with the Hitler salute, and a sea of German
flags and pictures of Hitler were displayed at celebrations. The
identification was so strong that those bliged to travel through areas
involved in the Palestinian revolt soon learned that it was prudent
to attach a swastika to their vehicle to ward off attacks by Arab
snipers.8 The Grand Mufti declared certain zones in Palestine to
be “liberated” from the Jews and British; and he mandated Shari’a
- Islamic religious law. Christian as well as Muslim women were
forced to veil themselves. Opponents were liquidated.
By 1938, Husseini fielded some ten thousand fighters, an active
propaganda unit, and modern weapons, thanks in large part to Nazi
money and military assistance. But if the Mufti was ready for the
war that would soon engulf the world, so were the British. They sent
massive reinforcements to put down the revolt. Al-Husseini fled to
Lebanon, still under French rule, before he could be arrested.
From his safe perch in Beirut, and soon after that (May, 1941) in
Berlin, the Grand Mufti worked tirelessly on behalf of Germany and
Nazism. He played a pivotal behind-the-scenes role in instigating
a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq in 1941, in urging Nazis and pro-Nazi
governments in Europe to transport Jews to death camps, in training
pro-Nazi Bosnian brigades, and, after Hitler’s cause was lost, in
funneling Nazi loot into post-war Arab countries.9 His Muslim
“Hanjar” division was credited with the murder of roughly 90% of
Bosnian Jewry. He became a familiar voice on Germany’s Arabiclanguage
radio propaganda station, broadcasting from the town
of Zeesen near Berlin, to convince Arabs and Muslims in Europe
(and especially the Muslim populations of the Balkans and Albania)
that Muslims and Nazis were brothers, and that these two kindred
peoples needed to unite against their common enemy: the Jews.
From Germany, the Mufti effectively wielded his weapons
of religious power, mob incitement, and assassination to silence
opposition and eliminate moderate rivals. He succeeded, almost
single-handedly, in engraving on the Arab consciousness the image
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad / 11
of the Jew as the demonic apotheosis of all things evil. Not only
was everything Jewish evil; but under al-Husseini’s deft diatribe,
everything evil was Jewish.
After meeting with Hitler on November 21, 1941, Husseini
praised the Germans because they “know how to get rid of the Jews,
and that brings us close to the Germans and sets us in their camp.”
On March 1, 1944, the Mufti called out in a broadcast from Zeesen:
“Arabs! Rise as one and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews
wherever you find them. Kill them with your teeth if need be. This
pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor.” His goal,
with the help of the Nazis, was “to solve the question of the Jewish
elements in Palestine and in other Arab countries as required by
national interests, and in the same way as the Jewish question in the
Axis lands is being solved.”10 His own memoirs, and the testimony
of German defendants at the Nuremberg trials later on, showed that
he planned a death camp modeled on Auschwitz to be constructed
near Nablus for the genocide of Palestine’s Jews.11
It was the Mufti who urged Hitler, Himmler, and General
Ribbentrop to concentrate Germany’s considerable industrial and
military resources on the extermination of European Jewry. The
foremost Muslim spiritual leader of his time helped in his own way
by lobbying to prevent Jews from leaving Hungary, Romania, and
Bulgaria, even though those governments were initially willing to
let them go. As Eichmann himself recounted: “We have promised
him [the Mufti] that no European Jew would enter Palestine any
more.”12
But Germany’s defeat in North Africa meant that the
Einsatsgruppen, which had murdered more than one million of the
six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust, never took its ghastly
show to Palestine. Al-Husseini’s boundless ambitions against both
Palestinian and world Jewry were halted ---he believed only
temporarily--by the German surrender on May 8, 1945.
The Mufti suddenly found himself a prisoner of war in France,
and condemned as a war criminal by the Nuremberg prosecutors.13
But with the Cold War looming, the British and the Americans
sought to curry favor with the Arab world (and prevent the USS R
The NAZI Roots of Palestinian Nati ona lism an d Islamic Jihad / 12 from making political headway there) by allowing him to escape. He
fled first to Egypt, and later to Syria. From Damascus, Hajj Amin
al-Husseini reestablished himself as the foremost spokesman for the
Arabs of Palestine.
A few years later, when the question of Palestine came before
the United Nations,, he and Hassan al-Banna urged the Arab world
to unite in opposition to it. The two men saw in the UN resolution
for the partition of Palestine an example of the “Jewish world
conspiracy,” even though the plan provided for an Arab state in
Palestine alongside of the Jewish one. But in their view a state for
the Arabs of Palestine took a back seat to the eradication of Zionism
and the annihilation of Palestine’s Jews.
No Arab head of state had the courage to contradict al-Husseini’s
rejectionism, and the Arab world’s enthusiastic reception of his
message of hate and genocide ended any possibility of the peaceful
implementation of the UN resolution and the creation of an Arab
and a Jewish state side by side in the Palestine Mandate (80% of the
Mandate had already been allocated to Jordan, whose population
was more than two-thirds Palestinian Arab).
As the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Arabia
and Morocco invaded Israel in 1948, the general-secretary of the
Arab League, Abd al-Rahman Azzam (aka Azzam Pasha), who
had previously stated privately that he considered the partition of
Palestine to be the only rational solution, now stood shoulder to
shoulder with the Mufti. “This war,” he declared on the day of the
Arab attack, “will be a war of destruction.” It was: but it was the
armies assembled by Arab generals, many of whom had fought with
Rommel in behalf of the Third Reich that were destroyed.
Al-Husseini’s Nazi ambitions, even though they were now seen as
part of the Holocaust that he had helped in his small way to engineer,
continued to be a source of pride for his Arab supporters after his
death in 1948. And he found admirers elsewhere in the decades ahead
as well. Professor Edward Said praised al-Husseini, former partner
with the Nazis in their crimes against humanity, as “the voice of the
Palestinian people.” Yasser Arafat, a cousin of al-Husseini, referred
to him as “our hero.”14
The Muslim Brotherhood and the Nazis











Nazi Roots of Palestinian Nationalism

http://www.nyjtimes.com/cover/03-08-05/nazirootsofpalestiniannationalism.htm

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: The Jews are yours."

Former Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini in his post-World War II memoirs. [1}

"The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures."

Adolf Eichmann`s deputy Dieter Wisliceny in his Nuremberg Trials testimony. [2]

Within weeks of Adolf Hitler`s ascendance to power, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, contacted the German counsel-general in Palestine. With the exception of funding some anti-Semitic riots, Germans rejected the Arab`s overtures until 1937, when Adolf Eichmann and Herbert Hagen were sent to Palestine to establish a framework to provide Husseini with military and financial aid by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. [3]

By then, the Mufti had already proven his anti-Jewish credentials to the Germans by organizing a three-year-long series of riots and massacres.

On April 19, 1936, a crowd of Arabs stumbled upon Jews in the town of Jaffa. Having been incited by Mufti-spread rumors that Zionists were killing Muslims, the crowd decided to kill three of the Jews they met. Six days later, the Arab Higher Committee was created, with al-Husseini presiding over the new body. The committee openly endorsed past violence and began organizing future terror.

On May 5, the British colonial authorities warned al-Husseini against committing illegal acts but did not appear particularly decisive, leading the Arab to conclude that he could organize mass violence with impunity. By October 1936, nearly 300 people were killed and another 1,100 wounded. [4]

Colonial forces arrested a few pawns and one major leader, but took no action against the Mufti. The New York Times reported on June 14, 1936 that al-Husseini had succeeded "in convincing experienced high British civil servants that he is working for the government`s interests [and that] it was in the interest of the government that he should also be president of the new Arab High Committee," so that Haj Amin el-Husseini enjoys the government`s complete confidence as its unofficial adviser on the Arab side of the situation....The government believes that he and only he is in a position to appease the Moslem masses; therefore it gives him every support while at the same time playing into his hands." [5]

Continuing its policy of siding with the Mufti, in June the Brits arrested scores of members of the Defense Party sponsored by the rival Nashashibi clan, despite lack of any evidence that the Nashashibis were involved in the massacres. Ninety percent of Arabs in the Sinai concentration camp belonged to the Defense Party, with another 10 percent coming from smaller political movements. None of the Husseini-backed people were sent to the camp. [6]

The UK was not the only power helping the Mufti in 1936. The USSR-sponsored Communist Party of Palestine also did its part. After the 1929 massacres (including the slaughter of 68 Jews in Hebron), the Communist Party issued a statement that "revolutionary movement without pogroms [anti-Semitic riots] is impossible." The Communists even considered the Mufti "too moderate" in his fight against Jews. [7]

In the run-up to the 1936-39 riots, the Palestinian leader began coordinating the organization of anti-Jewish violence. In November 1935, Communists declared that Zionists were killing Arabs, helping the Mufti`s propaganda campaign to spark Arab rage against the Jews. On the eve of the first riots, Communists met al-Husseini to work out the final terms of their roles in the upcoming violence. Communist Party member Nimr Uda became the intelligence chief for the Mufti`s military units. Another Communist representative, Fuad Nasir, was named deputy to Abdul Qadir Husseini, commander of Arab fighters in the southern West Bank. [8]

By 1937, Britain realized the Mufti was sponsoring the violence not just against Jews, but against the English as well. Al-Husseini fled Jerusalem and settled in Lebanon. So glad were the British to see the Mufti leave that they did not even bother to ask the French powers governing Lebanon to extradite him.

Meanwhile, in an attempt to please the Arabs, the UK`s Peel Commission violated the League of Nations Mandate by offering a proposal to divide the land designated as the "Jewish National Home" by the League of Nations Mandate of 1922. Instead, under the Peel Commission proposal of 1937, only a small part of the land would become the Jewish state.

A year later, the Peel Commission issued another proposal, with even less land offered to Jews. Some time after that, the British issued the White Paper of 1939 rejecting the idea of a Jewish National Home and severely restricting Jewish immigration. It was hoped for in London that such concessions to Arab nationalists would appease al-Husseini and his supporters. Yet, only two years after the White Paper, the Mufti would come back to strike the British again. [9]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

In 1940 it looked as if Hitler's armada was unstoppable. Having already conquered France, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium and Luxembourg, Hitler and his friends in Italy, Spain and the occupied countries were clearly the rulers of continental Europe. Hitler had also allied himself with the USSR under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939 which divided Eastern Europe by giving the Baltic states and parts of Poland and Romania to the USSR, while letting the Germans take over western Poland, Romania and other European nations.

Meanwhile, the Japanese were the dominant force of Asia, seemingly set to impose their control on that continent. Britain`s Winston Churchill stood virtually alone against the Fascist onslaught, with the United States mired in radical isolationism, refusing to take part in what many Americans saw as a European war.

The one region where the British still had significant influence was the Middle East. Hitler set out to change that. Al-Husseini wanted to get rid of the Hashemite-clan rulers in Iraq and Transjordan. Both men wanted to get rid of the Jews and the Brits. It was a marriage made in heaven.

Despite boasting a powerful navy, the United Kingdom had an army that was modest in size and spread too thin. The Middle East, especially Iraq, seemed likely to be the next pawn to fall to the Third Reich.

In 1940, King Ghazi (son of King Faisal I) died, leaving only his four-year-old son to govern. Emir Abdul-Illah, the regent for the young Iraqi king, felt the need to bring Rashid Ali al-Kaylani into the government as the prime minister, despite the latter`s support for Nazi Germany and links with al-Husseini. The new head of state immediately shifted the policies of Iraq in favor of Nazi Germany, guaranteeing suply of natural resources to Hitler and refusing to cut ties with Italy. The former Mufti of Jerusalem and his surrogates frequently acted as the government`s representatives with foreigners. Kaylani also asked from Hitler the right to "deal with Jews" in Arab states - a request that was granted. [10]

Britain responded with severe economic sanctions which, coupled with the UK`s initial defeat of German forces in North Africa and pressure from the Iraqi royal family, brought down the pro-German government on January 31, 1941. Kaylani and other pro-Axis Iraqis, under the influence of al-Husseini, conspired, unsuccessfully, to murder Abdul-Illah. But thanks to widespread support for Kaylani among government officials, he was back in power two months later. [11]

As one of its first acts, the restored pro-German administration sent its artillery to attack the British air base at Habbaniya, causing the Brits to respond by invading Basra. The hoped-for support from Nazi Germany never came and Kaylani eventually fled to Saudi Arabia. [12]

Haj Amin al-Husseini, who issued a fatwa (Islamic religious ruling) calling on all Muslims to help the pro-Axis government in Iraq, became one of England`s most wanted men. In May 1941, a group of Jewish fighters, including David Raziel, leader of the right-wing Irgun, set out for Iraq to assassinate the former Mufti on a mission sponsored by the Churchill government. The mission ended prematurely when Raziel was killed by a bomb dropped from a German plane. Aware that his life was in danger, al-Husseini fled to Europe dressed as a woman. [13]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

On November 28, 1941 the former Mufti was officially received by Hitler, who agreed to establish a bureau for al-Husseini which was used to spread propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany, organize spy rings in Europe and the Middle East, and, most importantly, establish Muslim Nazi SS divisions and Wehrmacht units in Bosnia, the Balkans, North Africa and Nazi-occupied parts of the Soviet Union. After the meeting, the Mufti was also named SS gruppenfuehrer by Heinrich Himmler and referred to as the "Fuhrer of the Arab World" by Hitler himself. [14]

The largest Muslim Nazi SS unit was the 13th division, known as Hanjar. Husseini also encouraged the creation of smaller, less efficient units, including the Waffen SS divisions known as Skanderbeg (made up predominantly of Albanians) and Kama (made up mostly of Yugoslavian Muslims). Thus, Hitler`s Mufti organized or encouraged three out of 27 Waffen SS divisions formed before 1945 (eleven other SS divisions were formed in 1945, but most of these were of questionable caliber and accepted soldiers of questionable skill).

According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, al-Husseini "organized in record time" Croatian units that went on to massacre hundreds of thousands of Serbian Orthodox Christians. Jacenovac, the third largest death camp, where more than 200,000 people met their death, was run by Croatian Ante Pavelic with the aid of al-Husseini. In all, at least 800,000 Yugoslavian civilians were murdered by Pavelic's pro-Axis Ustaschi regime. [15]

Despite the relative inefficiency of the Hanjar division and the total incompetence of the other two divisions, it can still be said that the units established and encouraged by the "Fuhrer of the Arab World" played a significant role in the genocide. Tens of thousands of Jews outside Yugoslavia also perished when the Mufti argued against trading them for German POWs held by the Allies.

Al-Husseini opened a North African Bureau in Germany with the goal of recruiting 500,000 Arab soldiers from Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. The plan failed when German forces were forced to withdraw from much of North Africa after a successful British operation. [16]

But an Arab Legion was founded, and it fought under the German flag. Arab soldiers had hoped to fight in the Middle East but were instead sent to the Russian front, where they were completely wiped out while fighting in the Caucasus region. Some time later, in responseto the British decision to create a Jewish Brigade made up of some of the 26,000 Palestinian Jews who had fought under the United Kingdom's flag, the Mufti convinced the Germans to create an Arab Brigade. The unit, however, either did not fight or was not very efficient because very little is known about it. [17]

The Mufti also made a particularly strong effort to recruit Soviet Muslims. "It was largely due to Haj Amin's propaganda that on the arrival of German armies in the northern Caucasus in 1942, five indigene tribes - the Chechens, the Ingushes, the Balkars, the Karachais, and the Kabardines - welcomed them with bread and salt," wrote Joseph Schechtman in The Mufti and the Fuhrer.[18] Stalin's response was deadly. Caucasian Muslims, including nearly all Chechens and Ingush, were exiled from their land, with up to a third dying as a result of inhumane treatment by Soviet authorities.

The Mufti was similarly instrumental in the recruitment of the Azerbaijani battalion, which "proved their valor, were included in German Storm Troops and decorated by the German Army," according to a November 1943 broadcast by DNB, the German News Agency. The Mufti`s representatives in Central Asia recruited some Muslim fighters for Nazi Germany there as well, despite widespread sympathy among the majority of Central Asian Muslims for the plight of the Jews during the Holocaust. [19]

The Mufti`s hatred of the West was matched only by his hatred of the Jews. It is not a coincidence that Germany suddenly abandoned the policy of expelling Jews and adopted far harsher methods a short time after the Mufti arrived in Germany. When Haj Amin came to Germany again, the Nazis decided to execute the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem.

"The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry," reported Eichmann`s deputy, Dieter Wisliceny. "[He had] played a role in the decision to exterminate the European Jews. The importance of this role must not be disregarded.... The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry." [20]

We do not know if al-Husseini played a major role in shaping the Final Solution. "There is, however," wrote Joseph Schechtman, "abundant first-hand evidence of the part the Mufti played in making foolproof the ban on emigration (of Jews out of Germany)." [21]

When the war ended, al-Husseini returned to the Middle East as a hero. On October 1, 1948, he was proclaimed the president of the government of All-Palestine. The government was fictional, however, because it did not control any land and was recognized by only a handful of Arab nations. In 1959 it was dispersed by its sponsor, Egypt. [22]

By that time, however, another member of the al-Husseini clan was planning terror. Around the same time that the All-Palestine government was disbanded, a man by the name of Muhammad Abd al-Rahman ar-Rauf al-Qudwah al-Husaini - better known as Yasir Arafat - was busy organizing Fatah, which would go on to become the main faction of the PLO.

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Support for Nazism was not limited to the former Mufti. "We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books . . . . We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism," recalled Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of Syria's ruling Ba'ath Party. [23] Indeed, a popular WWII song was heard in the Middle East featuring words: Bissama Allah, oria alard Hitler - in heaven Allah, on earth Hitler. Picking up the theme of the book, posters were put up in Arab markets and elsewhere proclaiming, "In heaven Allah is thy ruler; on earth Adolph Hitler." John Gunther of Inside Asia reported: "The greatest contemporary Arab hero is probably Hitler." [24]

In October 1933, pro-Axis Young Egypt Party was founded. Styling itself of its German ideal, the new party built a storm-trooper unit, marching with torches under the slogan "One folk, One party, One Leader." Among the members of the violently anti-Semitic party was the young Gamal Abdel Nasser. [25] Nasser's brother, Nassiri, was the translator of Hitler's Mein Kampf into Arabic, describing the Fascist despot in glowing terms. After the "Free Officers" came to power in the 1950's, President Nasser used Joachim Daumling, the former Gestapo chief in Dusseldorf, to build the Egyptian secret service. The Gestapo chief of Warsaw organized the Egyptian security police. [26]

Another future Egyptian President, Anwar Sadat, was imprisoned during World War II for cooperating with Adolf Hitler's regime. Towards the end of World War II, Sadat wrote to the Fuhrer: "My dear Hitler, I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart. Even if you appear to have been defeated, in reality you are the victor. You succeeded in creating dissensions between Churchill, the old man, and his allies, the Sons of Satan. Germany will win because her existence is necessary to preserve the world balance. Germany will be reborn in spite of the Western and Eastern powers. There will be no peace unless Germany once again becomes what she was." [27]

A few years prior to writing this letter, Anwar Sadat contacted Muslim Brotherhood's leader Hassan al-Banna, an ardent supporter of Nazi Germany. The meeting put Sadat in contact with Abd al-Munim Adb al-Rauf, who went on to become a leading member of the Free Officers and a chief propagandist and protagonist of the Brotherhood. [28] Both men tried to join the pro-Axis fighters in Iraq, but failed. Sadat also met with Dr. Ibrahim Hasan, the second deputy of Ikhwan. The two gentlemen agreed that "salvation of the country could be assured only by a coup at the hands of the military" because of the King's support for the Allies. [29] On February 24, 1945, the Prime Minister of Egypt was assassinated by a member of the National Party as he was reading the declaration of war against Germany. [30] The Brotherhood and the military were not involved in the murder, but clearly did not object to the act. The assassination would become a sign of the things to come in the decades after the World War
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el kabong wrote:This is Why certain people want to kill the Jews, all of them. If they can't kill them they lie about them and misrepresent their Book and Teachings to incite hatred. Hatred grounded in Ignorance. They want to suppress, eradicate the teachings of the Bible, All Humans created in the Image of God, and a repaired/restored World. thumbs up

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.



The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds
.


The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.


Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

All at Mt. Sinai

1: Monotheism

2:Universal Codified Law

3: An Aleph/Bet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather then Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather then the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less then thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancin Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen peeps TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Aleph/Bet-Alpha/Bet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hierglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualising Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather then the people choosing their god.

From Rabbi Greenbergs book, 'For the Sake of Heaven & Earth.
Jews and Xns are redicovering 'The Image of Yah' in each other, after a coupla millenia of discord and animus.

This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10

The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.

Peace between Humans.
Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.
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Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.


TOO BAD YOU CAN'T BE honest CIGGY, AS LONG AS YOU LIE YOU REMAIN A PANSY ASSED PUNK WORTHY OF A hO sLAP. thumbs up

el kabong wrote:This is Why certain people want to kill the Jews, all of them. If they can't kill them they lie about them and misrepresent their Book and Teachings to incite hatred. Hatred grounded in Ignorance. They want to suppress, eradicate the teachings of the Bible, All Humans created in the Image of God, and a repaired/restored World. thumbs up

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.



The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds
.


The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.


Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

All at Mt. Sinai

1: Monotheism

2:Universal Codified Law

3: An Aleph/Bet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather then Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather then the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less then thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancin Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen peeps TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Aleph/Bet-Alpha/Bet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hierglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualising Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather then the people choosing their god.

From Rabbi Greenbergs book, 'For the Sake of Heaven & Earth.
Jews and Xns are redicovering 'The Image of Yah' in each other, after a coupla millenia of discord and animus.

This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10

The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.

Peace between Humans.
Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

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Post  mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:14 pm

ciggy, at this stage of our dialogue, for you to claim that I am a Literalist is proof that either you are a lying sack of shit, or a moron.......which is it? thumbs up lmao rolf popcorn



pHYSICAL LIFE IS IMPORTANT, WE ARE TO TRANSFORM OURSELVES TO OUR HIGHEST CAPACITY FOR GOOD, SO AS WE MAY INHERIT THE uNIVERSE..WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT HERE BEFORE WE MOVE OUT INTO THE uNIVERSE. HENCE YHWHs tORAH/iNSTRUCTION.......... thumbs up

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LETTERS AND NAMES
18 The government of the worlds is implemented through the letters.
19 The 22 letters.
20 The letters are different combinations of Kindness, Judgment and Mercy -- lines and dots, signifying opening and closure.
21 The action of the letters is completed by the musical notes, vowel points and crowns.
22 The musical notes, vowel signs, crowns and letters are governed under the order of the ten Sefirot included in the Name of Havayah and its expansions.
23 The lights execute their functions through the holy names which make up the Torah.


Letters and Names

Opening 18

The government of the worlds is implemented through the letters.

In order to produce an actual effect, all of the supernal lights must enter into the category of letters. The letters constitute a complete order that exists to bring all things into actual being. This is the meaning of the verse: "...and through the word of HaShem the heavens were made" (Psalms 33:6). For speech exists only in virtue of the letters of which it is made up.

Having explained what the Sefirot are, we now turn to the letters of the Hebrew alphabet with which they are associated, as discussed by the kabbalistic sages.

The proposition consists of two parts: Part 1: In order to produce... This introduces the subject by explaining that the lights can operate only through the letters. Part 2: The letters constitute... This explains what the letters are.

Part 1: In order to produce an actual effect, all of the supernal lights... The entire purpose of the wisdom of the Kabbalah is to understand the particular root of each of the different phenomena we find in the world. Anything that can exist without being dependent on something else must have its own root.

To apply this to the subject of our present discussion: The lights are preparations on the level of thought for all of the different created realms and beings and the entire governmental order through which they are run. However, for these to come into actual existence is a further stage, because thinking about something does not necessarily make it actually happen. If so, we need to identify a separate root through which they actually come into being. The particular root involved here is the letters. Accordingly, in order for the supernal lights to produce an actual effect, they must enter into the category of letters. The letters consititute a single root produced through a separate radiation. Everything prepared in the Sefirot on the level of thought must enter this level and pass through this root in order to come into being in actuality.

Part 2: The letters constitute a complete order... Each root that we can identify as serving a particular purpose or function is ordered appropriately in its own unique way, and everything that has to pass through the root in question must enter into this unique order. Since the letters are the root through which what is conceived in thought is executed in actuality, accordingly, when the thought is ready to be implemented, it requires the order of letters ...which exists to bring all things into actual being. The letters do not stand as part of the governmental order in the same way as the attributes and Sefirot, which define and shape it. Rather, the purpose of the letters is to put into actual effect the governmental order already prepared on the level of thought. The order of the letters is so arranged as to ensure the fulfilment of the executive function dependent upon it.

This is the meaning of the verse: "...and through the word of HaShem the heavens were made" (Psalms 33:6). For initially there is the thought -- Adam Kadmon -- but this is concealed. The revelation of thought comes about through speech, which consists of letters. Whatever is concealed in thought must enter into the category of speech in order to be revealed. However, the component parts and organizing principles of thought are by no means identical with those of speech, for a thought is in the mind, whereas in speech we express our thoughts in words and letters. In order to communicate what is in our minds, what is conceived in thought must be submitted to the rules of language and cast in the form of letters and words. The same applies in the upper worlds. The first order is that of thought. Its revelation comes about through speech. What is conceived in the mind within the parameters of thought can come forth in speech only within the parameters of speech, namely through the letters.

For speech cannot exist without letters. The verse provides clear proof that all things come into being through the letters, for speech is made up of letters. The actual creation of the universe came about through speech. If so, the actual creation of the universe came about only through the letters, as will be discussed further below.


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http://www.azamra.org/Earth/begin.html

In the beginning...

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The beginning of the beginning * In the beginning * Where is that Garden? * Contemporary City Civilization * The effect on the Earth * The effect on the human spirit * Alienation from Nature * Taking Responsibility * So what are we supposed to do? * The Torah * The Mountain, the Field & the House

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The beginning of the beginning...
We must start at the very beginning. Even before the creation of the skies, the heavens and the earth.

Bereyshit. "In the beginning..." (Genesis 1:1).

The six Hebrew letters making up the opening word of the Bible, BeReYShiT, can be rearranged to spell out the words RoSh BaYiT, "the Head of the House".

Because first in mind -- even before the creation of the actual universe -- there was a vision of a House. Long before humans started building houses for themselves, as God began building worlds, there was already a vision of the ultimate House: the House of God, the Holy Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. In the words of Jacob, speaking of this place: "This is the House of God and this is the Gate of Heaven" (Genesis 28:17).

This House is the summit of all creation. The purpose of the entire creation is to reveal the beauty and perfection of God to His creatures. The Temple raises our eyes to that perfection. For the Temple directs our eyes beyond transient worldliness towards heavenly truth. This House comes to join Earth back to Heaven. The Temple is the place where Earth meets Heaven. It is the very Gate of Heaven.

The Holy Temple in Jerusalem comes to show and reveal that the loving God is the Head of the House, RoSh BaYiT, Ruler over the Universe. And that the whole world is a "House" -- a planned, ordered, intelligently-built structure -- in and through which God's divinity is revealed to all the inhabitants of the world.

It was from the earth of this place in Jerusalem that Adam was formed. For it is the destiny of his children -- all humanity -- to worship at this House.

After Noah was saved from the flood, it was in this place that he sacrificed.

This is the mountain where Abraham came to sacrifice Isaac.

This is the "field" to which Isaac returned to meditate.

This is the place where Jacob lay down and dreamed of a ladder stretching up to heaven. This is the place he called "the House of God".

This place King David knew to be the place of the Temple, and he prepared for its construction by King Solomon.

The Solomon's Temple stood there for 410 years until it was destroyed.

The Second Temple stood there for 420 years until it was destroyed.

For more than 1928 years since the destruction of the Second Temple, Jews have yearned and prayed daily for the rebuilding of the Temple.

Here on this exact same spot, the Third Temple is destined to be rebuilt.

We are waiting for it. We need it. "If the nations of the world had understood how valuable the Holy Temple was for them they would have surrounded it with troops and fortifications to guard it" (Bemidbar Rabbah 1:3). For only when all mankind will unite to worship God at this Temple will it be possible to join the earth back to heaven. And only then will mankind be able to live in harmony with the environment.

In the beginning...
BeReYShiT. That vision of the House was the beginning of creation. And then came the actual creation of all that is required to make it possible to build that House: the heavens and the earth: the sun, the moon, the stars; the land, the sea, the plants and trees, the fish, the birds and animals...

And finally God said: "Let us make man in our form and likeness, and they will rule over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the skies, over the animals and over all the earth and every creature on it."

And God created man in His own likeness. He created them male and female. And God blessed them and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and conquer it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and all the living creatures that swarm over the earth."

And God planted a garden of delight. He caused the earth to sprout forth every kind of lovely tree. And the tree of life in the midst of the garden. And the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

God took Adam and Eve and placed them in this Garden of Eden to tend it and keep it. And God ordered the man: "You may eat freely from every tree in the garden. Except for the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. For on the day you eat from it, you will certainly die."

But Adam and Eve ate from the tree....

And God said to Adam: "Because you ate from the tree from which I ordered you not to eat, the ground is cursed for you. You will have to toil in order to eat from it all the days of your life. The earth will bring up thorns and thistles, and you will eat the herb of the field. With the sweat of your face you will eat bread, until you go back to the ground. Because that is where you were taken from: you are dust, and to dust you will return."

And God said: "See, the man has become like one of us to know good and evil. And now, so that he should not put his hand out and also take from the Tree of Life and eat and live for ever...."

God drove man out from the Garden of Eden to tend the earth from which he was taken. And God placed angels and a fiery sword to guard the way to the Tree of Life. (Genesis ch's 1-3).

Where is that Garden?
Where is that enchanted garden? Will we ever see it again? In this world? Or in some other?

In Eden, everything Adam needed was instantly available. All he had to do was pick the fruit off the trees. But having been driven out of Eden, he was forced to fend for himself.

Ever since then, men have writhed and struggled to find easier ways of making a living so as to circumvent the curse and enjoy this world a little before dying and returning to the dust.

One of the things that most distinguishes man from God's other creatures is the intelligence with which he is able to make and use tools and artifacts that can aid him in this goal. Over the millennia, as human technology has become ever more ambitious, so the corresponding forms of economic and social organization have become more and more complex.

No matter how complex the technology and social organization, everything required to sustain human life ultimately derives from the surrounding God-given natural environment. Yet the more advanced our technology and society, the more man-made our surroundings become -- and the more cut-off we seem to be from nature.

For thousands of years the great majority of the population lived on the land, close to nature -- many of them quite literally fulfilling the curse of Adam, toiling and sweating to extract food from the ground. But the ever-accelerating technological revolution of the last few hundred years has caused a corresponding revolution in socioeconomic organization that has totally shifted the focus from the country to the city.

Today's urban agglomerations not only provide homes for their enormous concentrations of population. They also serve as the location for most of the industrial and economic activity that provides the goods and services, the educational infrastructure that produces the manpower and know-how, the communications media that keep everyone informed and involved in the system, and the governmental and other bodies charged with overall coordination and control.

Urbanization is a major global trend. Of the 5.8 billion people currently living on this earth, just over half still live away from cities. But the other half are now urbanized. It is expected that within twenty-five years, two thirds of the world's population may be living in cities. Three quarters of the population of the United States already live in cities.

Contemporary city civilization
Our contemporary urban technology-and-media-based civilization transcends traditional geographic, political, racial and cultural boundaries. It has established itself as the dominant civilization throughout the world. Few if any aboriginal or pre-industrial people remain who are not under the rule of some city-based government and subject to modern urban technological and cultural influences. No matter where in the world you are -- even on a desert island, even in outer space -- all you have to do is turn on your radio and you are in instant touch with the latest news, stock prices, fashions, sports, entertainment, books, albums, websites and anything else you want.

The claim of this civilization to world ascendancy is based first and foremost on its amazing capacity to generate wealth. The success of countries and their governments is measured by their ability to ensure this abundance for everyone -- or at least for enough of the population not to let the have-nots get out of hand. Material consumption is a goal that unites people of all nations, races, beliefs and cultures: east, west, north and south.

Contemporary city civilization is a unique solution to Adam's predicament of how to survive and enjoy, providing ever more refined ways of satisfying an infinite array of secondary whims and desires. With a pampered palate, all modern comforts, technology beeping and flashing all around you, entertainment at the press of a button, endless opportunities for shopping, amusement, education, culture, sports and more and more... you could easily imagine this IS paradise!

The effect on the earth
It is surely a desirable goal to seek to satisfy everyone's basic needs and provide them with as many true comforts and conveniences as possible. Indeed, with wise organization and self-restraint, the whole world could be amply provided for without any danger to the environment.

But our current methods of trying to satisfy the world population's basic needs and sustain the sophisticated lifestyle of the more prosperous are causing the depletion of natural resources and degradation of the global environment at a rate that will make it impossible for humanity to carry on in the same way for more than a generation or two. The danger to the environment is clear to anyone willing to take even a brief glance at some of the information gathered by environmental monitoring agencies.

With about 80 million people added to the world population each year, food security -- measured in the level of carryover stocks of grain -- has dropped to an all-time low.
Uncontaminated water is now a scarce resource even in countries once considered rich in water resources.
Deforestation continues unabated.
Thousands and thousands of plant, fish, bird and animal species have become or are becoming extinct.
Record levels of carbon emissions from fossil fuel burning are thought to be one of the main factors in overall global warming that has already caused billions of dollars worth of losses in the last few years because of weather-related disasters, and could lead to major worldwide economic, social and environment dislocations in the future.
Mortality is on the rise in many countries, and more and more people are suffering from pollution-related diseases.
("Vital Signs" and "State of the World" published by Worldwatch Institute, Washington).

Thousands of years after Adam's expulsion from paradise, mankind is more out of harmony with the environment than ever.

It is an ironic twist to a continuing saga. Adam was expelled from paradise for an act of excess, uncontrolled consumption, eating the extra fruit he was not allowed. And it is the excess, uncontrolled production and consumption habits of his sophisticated present-day descendants that are destroying the very earth we are entrusted to guard.

The effect on the human spirit
Quite apart from what contemporary civilization is doing to the physical environment, its effect on the minds and souls of those who live in it are just as devastating if harder to measure.

Charlie Chaplin in "Modern Times" graphically portrayed the crushing effects of industrialization on human dignity. That was back in the 1920's -- before people had been subjected to the full intensity of the contemporary city experience: unremitting heavy traffic, constant overhead aircraft, bulldozers, drilling, blaring sirens, alarms, amplifiers, phones, beepers, flashing lights, information overflow....

Contemporary civilization is the most technologically sophisticated and economically prosperous that ever was. Never before have so many people enjoyed such comforts and conveniences. Yet the commonest problems brought today to doctors and psychiatrists are depression, fatigue, hypertension, fear and anxiety!

The incidence of murder, violence, crime, sexual immorality, drug abuse and the like in the world's major cities is appalling. Subtler problems like the hyperactivity, attention-deficit and other behavioral problems so widespread among youth may seem less horrifying. Yet they could be signs of overall mental degeneration in our civilization.

It is hardly surprising that so many people in our culture show signs of wanting to escape. Some travel the globe in search of a different world, one that is more humane and serene. Others try to escape by turning inwards, or by blasting themselves with frenetic music, mind-altering drugs, muscle pumping and other forms of intensity. Among the most persistent themes in many present-day sub-cultures are anger, defiance and nihilism. But the majority seek solace from the pressures of modern life through the compulsive pursuit of material gratification, resulting in the food, sex, shopping, smoking, drinking, gambling and other addictions rife in our societies.

Alienation from Nature
All the resources required to maintain our contemporary consumerist civilization ultimately derive from the natural environment. Yet this selfsame culture tends to foster a myopic lack of awareness of nature that is one of the major factors causing people not only to ignore the continuing destruction of the environment but actively to contribute to it.

Urban living and contemporary technology cut people off from nature physically and mentally. The physical spaces where most of the urban population spend their lives -- houses, apartment blocks, roads, shops, offices, factories, schools, public facilities, cars, buses, trains, planes -- are all man-made. People are surrounded by man-made objects, artifacts and equipment of all kinds.

Even more enveloping are the man-made communications media, which for most of the population are the main source of information about the wider world as well as entertainment and culture. TV's, radios, papers, magazines, promotion and advertising surround us from childhood to old age. We may not be obliged to pay attention to them. But the sophistication with which they capture people's attention make them the determining influence molding the outlook and consciousness of the overwhelming majority of the population.

For many people, watching images on a screen is far more compelling than looking directly at their actual surroundings (which they may in any case find uninteresting or depressing). Audio output from speakers or headphones is far more involving than the real, live sounds all around (which may include a high proportion of meaningless technology-generated noise.) Media hypnosis thus engenders in people a glazed detachment from their own direct experience of the actual world around them through their eyes, ears and other senses, making them all but unaware of the sky, the trees and plants, birds, insects and other living creatures found even in cities.

The scale and economics of the media ensure that they remain the mouthpiece of entrenched interests in a system geared not so much to satisfying people's true needs as to arousing their material appetites. This is what makes the sales that create the profits that oil the system. The implicit message of the promotion that bombards us everywhere is: "You, the consumer, are king. The entire world is a giant smorgasbord of thrilling products, services and opportunities of every kind, all laid on for YOUR pleasure and delight. Just take and enjoy! Don't wait! Have it NOW! Buy! Special offer! Better value! More for less! Free gifts! Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die!"

The majority of the population are swept along by the general tide of consumerism, sparing little thought for the collective effect of their own and everyone else's individual acts of excess and waste on the wider global environment.

At least this mindless folly is slightly more forgivable than the frantic pollution of the environment and destruction of irreplaceable resources perpetrated by profit-hungry businessmen, major corporations and indeed some of the very governments that talk about the need for greater public awareness and stricter controls.

Taking responsibility
A civilization hell-bent on a lifestyle that is environmentally unsustainable and destructive is sick.

We must therefore thank God that more and more sensitive, thoughtful and responsible people are profoundly disturbed and pained at the spectacle of contemporary man destroying himself and the world, and are asking what we should do about it.

Perhaps there are animals that eat their fill and then move on leaving a trail of filth and waste behind them. But man has a higher destiny. We are the recipients of God's special blessing: "Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and conquer it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and all the living creatures that swarm over the earth."

"Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and conquer it." God wants a large human population, for such a multitude of souls -- each one different, each unique -- attests to the glory of the Creator. But only if the population is made up of truly dignified, refined human beings who not only take from the world and consume but also give. Man's mission is to conquer his selfish, animal instincts so as to develop his innate divinity and serve -- give and contribute of himself in order to bring this world to perfection and turn it back into the beautiful, harmonious garden it was created to be.

"Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and all the living creatures that swarm over the earth." The blessing applies to all of Adam's descendants. It applies to us. We are the guardians of the Earth and all the different life-forms and species it contains.

As we witness the destruction of the environment and see thousands of species of plants and animals becoming extinct, we must ask ourselves: How are we fulfilling our role? How are we discharging our responsibility?

One could easily be discouraged from even starting to think about what to do to improve the world. The odds against succeeding seem so great. True, more and more people are waking up to the responsibility we bear. But we are numerically few compared to the great majority of the world population who don't seem to care at all. What power do we have against the massive forces that are destroying the world? How can we have any significant effect?

Yet we are not at liberty to cast off our responsibility. The Talmud teaches: "Every single person is a whole unique world. And therefore every person is obliged to say, The entire world was created only for me" (Sanhedrin 37a). "If so," said Rebbe Nachman of Breslov, "then it is up to me to consider carefully at all times what I must do in order to improve the world..." (Likutey Moharan Pt I, 5:1).

The way we discharge our responsibility will determine the kind of world we will live in when we are older and the kind of world we will leave to our children and children's children.

So what are we supposed to do?
Experts are crying out about the destruction of the environment. Pressure groups lobby. International organizations pass resolutions. Governments introduce legislation. Corporations speak piously about their commitment to the environment. Yet the practical measures being taken have hardly begun to turn the tide of abuse and destruction.

Why should this be? If we are so sophisticated and intelligent, why are we unable to solve our problems?

Could it be because the problems are caused by our very intelligence itself, which has outstripped our ability to control and direct it for good and not evil?

It is not our technology that is bringing us to grief so much as the shortsightedness and greed with which it is applied. Man has created a formidable technological and socio-economic apparatus to satisfy his needs. But so far he has not had the sense to keep it under the proper control in order not to destroy himself and the world in the process.

It is an old, old problem. It goes right back to Adam, who through a failure of self-control ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge and was driven out of paradise.

It was because Adam took the fruit for himself against God's command that he was cursed with having to go out into the world and fend for himself.

"You want to be so clever? You don't want to submit to a higher wisdom that says thus far but no further? Then go out and learn for yourself! Try to do everything by yourself. Rely only on your own human intelligence. Make all the mistakes you want. Until in the end you will come to grief. And then you will realize that, wise as you are, you are still not wise enough to work everything out by yourself....

"The whole world is a gift to you. But it comes with God's book of instructions. Without them, nothing will work properly. Go back and do things the way God advises -- and then you will see that everything will work out!"

The Torah
If we truly desire to discharge our responsibility for the world, we have an obligation to search out what God advises for its welfare, as prescribed in His teaching to mankind, the Torah.

However, we should not expect to find there a point-by-point scheme for saving the environment along the lines of some human-devised plan. For the issue is not merely how to stave off the destruction of the environment for just that little bit longer so that humanity can simply continue pursuing exactly the same materialistic aims as today with only a modicum of extra prudence.

Man's materialistic preoccupations keep him from his true destiny. The Torah therefore comes to wean us from them, leading us on a higher, spiritual pathway where the question is not "What can I get out of the world for myself?" but "What are my obligations? How can I contribute? What can I give?"

As more and more people cultivate an attitude of responsibility and giving instead of only grabbing and taking, it will automatically become easier to introduce the economic and social changes necessary to preserve the environment and ensure long-term human survival.

By talking to each other about such an attitude and encouraging as many people as we have the power to influence to adopt it, we are contributing to and strengthening a new current that is already spreading more and more widely, and has the power to bring the entire world to greater sanity.

Let us therefore put the question of environmental responsibility in a broader perspective by asking: What does the Torah teach about how mankind should relate to the God-given world of nature that provides the grand setting for our civilization as a whole and for the lives of every one of us in it?

How does the Torah teach us to relate to nature?

The only way we can gain a proper perspective on this vital question from our standpoint within an ailing civilization is by endeavoring to step outside.

Let us therefore turn for insight to a band of teachers very different from the urbane experts and specialists of today. They were sky-gazers, meditators, daveners, dreamers, story-tellers, singers, sages, saints, mystics, prophets, founding fathers and leaders of humanity. Some may be famous and familiar from history and literature. Yet however much we know about them, we really do not know them at all.

The extensive Torah library provides a rich treasury of teachings about nature from many different saints and sages from Biblical, Mishnaic and Talmudic times until today. We will draw from very many of them, and especially from the Master Sage, Rebbe Nachman, who is the soul breathing life into this whole excursion. Rebbe Nachman will be close by during the whole journey from beginning to end.

But the journey will be a long one if we are to cover the ground thoroughly. We will have to take it in stages. There will be four main stages of this journey, and in each one we will look for special insight to one leading guide. Of the four main guides, three are the three founding fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, while the fourth is David, Sweet Singer of Israel.

The common tie binding them together is that all four sought to rectify the sin that drove Adam out of the Garden. In order to restore harmony between man and God, between Earth and Heaven. Only this way can man live in harmony with the world around him. Only this way can mankind survive. Only this way can we get back into the Garden.

All four knew that the success of the entire venture ultimately depends upon one thing: the actualization of the House that was the first thought of the entire creation, "In the beginning" -- BeReYShiT -- RoSh BaYiT, the "Head House": a single place of worship to which all of mankind will turn in unity.

The Mountain, the Field and the House
Said Rabbi Elazar: What does Isaiah mean when he says, "And many peoples will go and say, 'Come let us go up to the Mountain of God to the House of the God of Jacob!'" ? Why the God of Jacob and not the God of Abraham and Isaac? The answer is: Not like Abraham, who saw it as a Mountain ("as it is said this day, On the Mountain HaVaYaH is seen" -- Genesis 22:14). And not like Isaac, for whom it was a Field ("And Isaac went out to meditate in the Field" -- Genesis 24:63). But like Jacob, who called it a House: "And he called the name of that place Beth El, the House of God" (Genesis 28:19).
(Pesachim 88a)

It was to this focus of worship for all mankind that Abraham aspired when he journeyed to the mountain to sacrifice Isaac. Only for Abraham, it was and remained a mountain -- a high, forbidding place out of the reach of most people.

Having been bound at that spot, Isaac went back there again and again to meditate, pray and plan for the realization of the dream. Isaac made it a habit. He brought it nearer. For Isaac it was a field, a place in which to labor and work towards the vision. Fields are more useful to most people than mountains. The concept of a field is one people can more easily grasp than that of a mountain.

Yet a field is still not a place of human habitation to the same extent that a house is. Everybody needs a house to live in. Everyone can understand the idea of a house.

It was as a House that Jacob conceived the Temple: a House of Prayer. And it is as a House of Prayer that it will become graspable and meaningful to all humanity.

"I will bring them to My holy Mountain and make them rejoice in My House of Prayer. Their sacrifices and peace-offerings will find favor on My altar. For My House will be called the House of Prayer for all the nations" (Isaiah 56,7).

David's messianic mission was to spread the teaching of prayer to all mankind. Thus it was Jacob's concept of a House that David sought to actualize and build in his city of Jerusalem.

And it is this House that will be built quickly in the near future when Mashiach, son of David, leads the building of the third, final, eternal House, the Holy Temple in Jerusalem. And then all mankind will unite in the service of God and the world will come to perfection.

The progression from the concept of an entirely natural Mountain to that of a human-cultivated Field and finally that of a totally man-constructed House corresponds to mankind's progression from the time Adam first stepped out into the unspoiled God-given world of nature through thousands of years of agrarian living to the super-sophisticated man-constructed scientific-technological-urban civilization we live in today.

The Mountain is symbolic of the raw, God-given, natural environment. The Field represents the primary place of interaction between man and his environment: man has to dig, sow and manipulate the Earth in other ways in order to exploit the God-given resources so as to feed himself and provide his other needs.

But when it comes to actually eating, drinking, resting, relaxing and enjoying, people's first choice is the "House" -- whether their own homes or the other man-made buildings and structures in which we go about our various daily activities.

Men have built houses and more houses and more houses... until the Earth is filling up with bigger and bigger cities, the urban agglomerations that constitute the main centers of contemporary civilization.

The paradox is that this man-made civilization is now destroying the natural environment that is the very basis of its life. This is a civilization that is out of harmony with the environment.

Only through the sacred House that Jacob saw and the Son of David will build soon in Jerusalem, the Holy City, will it become possible to make peace and restore harmony between man and his human-constructed, technology-based, house-centered, citified world on the one hand, and the surrounding God-created, God-given world of nature on the other.

May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

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Post  true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:00 pm

le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

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SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'...and thanks to all who rejected God's
WARNING WORD, that described the times
and locations to watch for, 'They' nearly do...
AFTER WRECKING MOST OF THE WORLD,
as 'They' have been doing, through the GREENIE LIES
of 'Their' 'secular'/SATANIC propaganda.

DANIEL 11:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Dan&c=11&t=KJV#40
40;
And at the time 6256 of the end 7093
shall the king 4428 of the south 5045 push 5055 at him:
and the king 4428 of the north 6828
shall come against him like a whirlwind 8175 ,
with chariots 7393, and with horsemen 6571,
and with many 7227 ships 591;
and he shall enter 935 into the countries 776,
and shall overflow 7857 and pass over 5674 .


45;
And he shall plant 5193 the tabernacles 168
of his palace 643 between the seas 3220
in the glorious 6643 holy 6944 mountain 2022;

yet he shall come 935 to his end 7093,
and none shall help 5826 him.


...and this still isn't it, but it isn't unrelated...
Oh dear, - Jane, Liverpool, UK, 19/10/2011 16:13,
Queen Elizabeth is our Monarch,
and Australia, with it's tiny 21+ million population,
can afford to offer to help
your precious EU countries
out of their financial mess.

We are not a 'Banana Republic' because we are not a republic.

And something for all Australian's to consider:

how do you think an elected head of state of a country
this rich in natural resources, this large in area, and this tiny in population,
could prevent all those militarily powerful, population rich
but resource poor nations, from raiding us blind,
without Our Royal Family, watching over us?

- Lilly, Ballarat, Australia, 20/10/2011 3:06

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050818/Queen-Elizabeth-arrives-Australia-tour-country.html#ixzz1bFZjHfu3

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Her Majesty the Queen's Personal Flag for Australia
-
Since the 1964 Royal Visit of Australia, HM Queen Elizabeth II
has used in Australia a distinctive personal flag,
rather than the Royal Standard

used when she is in the United Kingdom.
The flag is a banner of the Australian Coat of Arms
with a badge consisting of the Commonwealth Star
upon which is the Queen's Royal badge
showing her initial surmounted by a crown
and surrounded by a garland of roses and wattle.

Note that the Western Australian swan
faces away from the hoist,
the same as in the Coat of Arms.

The correct proportions are 22 x 31, not
the 1 x 2 proportions
that are used for other British Royal Standards.
true lilly wrote:Should Julia Gillard have curtsied to the Queen?

Yes70.97% (1719 votes)
No
29.03% (703 votes)

Total votes: 2422
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Should Australia abandon the monarchy and become a republic?

Yes
36.7% (1042 votes)
No 63.3% (1797 votes)

Total votes: 2839
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true lilly wrote:Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders. 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 93349'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 832261'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 93349
true lilly wrote:Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?

Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!


Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.


Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing
in May.


It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
he was ready to step aside today in the face of the government's attitude.

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EDITORIAL: Greens should be red-faced
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CAUGHT OUT: The Greens' Sarah Hanson-Young's collusion
with the Commonwealth Ombudsman to script some questions
for the statutory officer to answer at a Senate Estimates Committee
make a mockery of the party's stated commitment to transparency and accountability. Picture: Isaac Lawrence Source: The Courier-Mail

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Ombudsman apologises over questions Adelaide Now, 1 day ago
Ombudsman Allan Asher apologises for writing questions
to Senator Sarah Hanson-Young

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Commonwealth Ombudsman Allan Asher
handles complaints and inquiries from the public


It said Mr Asher will talk to his staff today before making a statement.
_________________________________________________________
Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.
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...but I will add:
during his 3 weeks here, touring
This Glorious Land every day of those 3 weeks,

Evil or Very Mad 'TINTIN' SPAT VENOM at Evil or Very Mad
EVERY MEMORIAL TO OUR SOLDIERS,
Who FOUGHT, DIED
and WERE TORTURED as P.O.W.'s
!


Yes, 'TINTIN', who RAILED AT ME,
in defence of HIS DUTCH QUEEN BEE-TRIX,
"SHE'S STILL MY QUEEN!"

"SHE IS STILL MY QUEEN!"
(Beatrix of The Netherlands),

was the First of MANY Angry rants
I received from one unstable 'poster'
(who's actual position is WAY 'above' that),
who would swing from declarations
of love, and admiration for my 'genius',
to LOUD SHOUTS of "TRAITOR", "JEW",
and then have those abuses instantly
FORGIVEN and Forgotten on claiming
to be DRUNK...AND gain More "FANS"
for those ('drunk' with), hate filled attacks.

Well, again I have to remind readers that
IT WAS FARADAY who POSTED, that TNBTN
thread doesn't 'break' CODES but USES CODE
to ORDER ATTACKS...then he also promptly,
turned on and attacked me, when I failed to
RUN Screaming In Fear of the Obvious Threats
(many of which have been carried out), still there,
PRECEDING and clearly referring to NAMES, and
ACTIONS they carried out, for any who know what
DOES goes on here, to see for themselves.

Well with that in mind, and KNOWING I Post
what God said,
That THE KING of The NORTH
WILL FAIL in his Final Push at
AUSTRALIA,
The Glorious Promised Land, consider
what IS
CODED in this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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KARST dead 1 MAY

HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.



Oh, there are more 'personal' details, in the full post below, but
as they are DESIGNED to HIDE the real intent in DEAFENING"Noise",
I thought I'd give you UNinvolved, innocent readers, a hand in
recognising, WHY 'they' also put so much effort into off topic post
demanding you all believe I'm 'paranoid'...ha, I WISH I WERE,
it would sure HURT LESS than SMASHED, BROKEN BONES and
The HORROR of SEEING My DAUGHTER'S CAR BLOWN UP outside
HER BEDROOM WINDOW, and other such, 'bothers'
that CARING
To FREELY PUBLISH GOD'S LOVING WORD,
EARNS me FROM 'them'.


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DOG and ALBANIA

WAG the DOG is about creating a WAR with ALBANIA.
The SPIN DOCTORS need to distract the electorate from
a presidential SEX SCANDAL and construct a fake war with ALBANIA.

DOGS BARK

DOGS
BARKING
ALBANIA

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ALBEN BARKLEY

You have WAG THE DOG combined in this BARKING ALBEN.
Vice president under TRUMAN.

That TIME cover was on 28 JULY 1952.

I have just linked COMEDIAN WILL ROGERS
to commander WILL ROGERS of the USS VINCENNES
and also of the USS CUSHING.

Will Rogers born on
the DogIron Ranch


Tha's DOG and IRAN.
The real WAG the DOG story is the WAR WITH IRAN.
All WARS are WAG the DOG stories.
They are all fake...

ALBANIA and TIRANA.
IRAN and TEHRAN.

VANN and AMERICA were the parents of WILL ROGERS.
VANCOUVER and VANN.

WILL ROGERS and his MOTHER was AMERICA.
The MOTHER road or Main street of AMERICA. WILL ROGERS HIGHWAY.

WILL ROGERS, born on 4 NOVEMBER.

WHITE HOUSE

Will Rogers. Here his full name

WHITE HOUSE at PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
PENNSYLVANIA named after WILLIAM PENN.
WILLIAM PENN ROGERS.

WILLIAM PENN was born same date as EISENHOWER.
EISEN is IRON in german and WILL ROGERS was born
in "THE WHITE HOUSE" on the DOG IRON ranch....

Now to ADAIR.....
RED ADAIR was a legendary OIL WELL firefighter.

RED ADAIR

This is the wiki pic. Why this horrible pic?
it leads to WILLIAM BARKER CUSHING.

The night of OCTOBER 27 and 28. The RAID on the ALBEMARLE.

ADAIR
RAID

RED ADAIR and OIL WELLS that are BURNING....
We have seen that in the IRAQ wars and in KUWAIT....

Red Adair dead on
birthday MATA HARI


He died 7 AUGUST 2004.

RONALD REAGAN as the crucial link that combines all.

That highschool was NOT named after RONALD REAGAN but
after JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN.
School in HOUSTON and HOUSTON was incorporated
on the date RONALD REAGAN died. 5 JUNE.

This JOHN H. REAGAN died on 6 MARCH.
Birthday KARST TATES, thec attacker of the DUTCH ROYALS.
ALBEN BARKLEY died 30 APRIL, day of the ATTACK.

John HENNINGER Reagan

HENNINGER leads to FRANKFURT Germany.

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HENNINGER Tower Frankfurt

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN died on the birthday of KARST TATES.

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KARST dead 1 MAY
HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.


KARST and KROON.

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KARSTEN KROON wins
HENNINGER TURM

He won it TWICE. Last time was 2008. The year before
KARST attacked the KROON.

KARST and KROON in dutch is KARST-EN-KROON.

Here the list of the latest winners of the HENNINGER TURM.

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN was a TEXAS Politician.
KARST TATES as TAXI driver Travis Bickle.....


ha, and funny thing here is, that when I was stranded,
alone, smashed up, on crutches at the police station
for hours, after leaving the hospital, it was "THE" Indian
TAXI DRIVER who was 'Bashed', who, REFUSED to take me
home because I didn't have enough money, THEN...not like
I could 'RUN away' and not pay a few days later, and 'they' all
KNEW there was no one else coming to 'rescue me' 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 Rolleyes
in fact, 'they' wouldn't so much as call Victims of Crime or
The Salvos, to DO THEIR JOB and assist me, no I was finally
delivered to my house 'they' KNOW 'they' have the Keys to,
and dumped, alone, with no phone, computer, money, food
or friend to help my crippled body around a house still
trashed and covered in broken glass...and the 'message'
To You readers, is, 'if you don't want the same MIStreatment,
DON'T DARE share her Faith', but SERIOUSLY, who wants to
FOLLOW those so WEAK and LOW that even in such violent,
large and 'powerful' Gangs, CAN'T break the Faith of one,
little old woman, who ONLY 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 Smile has God to lean on 'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 Biggrin!
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Post  true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:03 pm

Ombudsman quits for 'error of judgement'
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11:18AM
Matt Johnston
UPDATE 2.05pm:
COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman
Allan Asher has quit amid Greens’
claims he was
“politically assassinated”.


Yep, his "error of judgement"
was to "trust" The GREENS who are
SO QUICK and READY to "CULL"
any of 'their' puppets who become
more of a liability than 'useful' to
'their' TRAITOROUS SECRET AGENDA.


Time to face the facts about our nation's ungrateful brats:
it's not good enough for 'them' that even our poorest
have had a 4% Increase in wealth, no, 'they' want us 'free'
of our Democratic Monarchy, like America,
so our poorest can be 50% POORER.
All Loyal Australian's should learn more about the
Wealthy Foreigners of resource poor, over crowded nations,
who fund the CONspiracy Industry that's behind all this,
and speak out against 'them', and they to may get one of
'their' Most Followed CONspiracy Pushers
(who lives off their gold stashed in Swiss Banks,
while flying around the world selling that ideology
of ingratitude for blessings, and bitter lust for more 'stuff'),
fly in to spend 3 weeks in their home to try to convert them
into Traitors of Our Greatly Blessed Nation.
BTW, one of those CONspiracy Gurus,
DAVID ICKE,
who rails against the British Monarchy
(NOT The Monarchy 'tintin' is loyal to),
will be here next week.
Loyal Australians might want to protest against him,
at those 'talks'=Hypnotic Brainwashing Sessions,
that he charges the desperate and poor, dearly to attend.


Ted Baillieu, Robert Doyle
call for Occupy Melbourne protesters to leave

by:Anne Wright, Ashley Gardiner
From:Herald Sun
October 19, 2011 9:41PM
13 comments
(DO read the comments
Wink )
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Watch
Occupy Melbourne
Protesters in the City Square have set up camp and don't want to leave any time soon

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Lord Mayor Robert Doyle says the protesters have made their statement and should leave.
HWT Image Library

UPDATE 2.16pm: PREMIER Ted Baillieu has asked the Occupy Melbourne protesters in City Square to "move along".


But he would not comment on whether they should be removed against their will.
"I think the Lord Mayor has indicated that time is up," Mr Baillieu said.

"I share the view that people have a right to protest. They should do it
in a way that does not cause disruption and my advice to them is: time
to move along."
His comments come after Lord Mayor Robert Doyle gave the protesters notice
to pack up and leave.

Occupy Melbourne spokesman Nick Carson has reiterated the group is doing
nothing illegal by "standing, sitting or sleeping in public space".
Mr Carson did say that under City of Melbourne laws, tents and structures in public spaces were not permitted.

Related Coverage
'Occupy London' protest harming tourism

What do we want? WiFi. When do we want it? Now The Daily Telegraph, 1 hour ago
Occupy Wall St goes global Herald Sun, 2 days ago
Busy protesters fail to maintain the rage Herald Sun, 2 days ago
Occupy Wall Street: Anger boils over in global protests Herald Sun, 3 days ago
Occupy Brisbane protest Courier Mail, 4 days ago

"They’re keeping it up their sleeves as a potential justification for getting rid of us," he said.

As the protest continues into its sixth day, Cr Doyle said the protesters
had made their statement and would be required to leave the square in a
matter of days.
"They have made their statement," he said on ABC Radio yesterday.
"When it does come time for them to pack up and move on I would hope they do so
in a respectful manner."

But Greens MP Adam Bandt said he thought the protest was great.
"I came down to have a look and I think it's great. Julie Gillard and Tony Abbott
should come down and have a look,'' he said.
Mr Bandt said while the protesters were peaceful and not clashing with authorities they should be allowed to remain.

He said it should be up to protesters, not the Lord Mayor, to decide when they
should leave, although he doubted they'd still be camped in the square by Christmas.
Read more at the Melbourne Leader.
- with Georgie Haberfield
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Oh, and Adam Bandt can't help but show his foolishness,
by suggestingour P.M. and Opposition Leader,
"should" come and pander to puppets of 'tintin's'
Dutch Monarchy,
while being visited by OUR REIGNING MONARCH.
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Post  mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:27 am

true lilly wrote:
le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

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SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'................... rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin ..............................

er........suzi........................only the rankest moron(you) would have projected that reply to my Post.........well done....again. thumbs up

FYI...they are talking about Jerusalem, in Israel.....................what don't you understand about that?

Was YHWHS previous two Temples in Australia?

NO.

Israel is the Eternal Promised Land................NOT Australia......... thumbs up lmao rolf


Neither will be the Third, and when the New Jerusalem decends it will over the old Jerusalem in.................Israel, not Australia..............it is futile for you to twist and pervert the Scriptures of YHWH, the Prophets you quote, out of context, are YHWHs Prophets, they speak of Israel..........NOT Australia..................suzi/lily.....you remain p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c......Analysis of Daniel 11:2-35

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves." thumbs up The vision in Daniel 11:2-35 is set in the third year of the Persian King Cyrus the Great (ca. 536 B.C.). The Greek conqueror Alexander the Great is briefly mentioned in Daniel 11:2 as a "warrior king," and the fourfold division of his empire is referred to in Daniel 11:3. Daniel 11:5-20 describes the wars between the Ptolemiac and Seleucid Empires. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to Antiochus Epiphanes, his rise to power, attacks on Egypt, and subsequent persecution of the Jews. The reader should particularly note the increased attention given to detail as the vision focuses on the second century B.C. and the tyranny of Antiochus. . thumbs up rolf lmao
http://www.bibleplus.org/prophecy/kings.html


Suzi, you remain a Bullshit Artist........... thumbs up

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves."


Some insightful Bible students noticed, the proof lies in the obvious identity that exists between Daniel's "the king of the north" in the last days and Ezekiel's "Gog" of the latter days. By comparing what is said about each of them in the two prophecies, it is manifest that they can only be different titles for the same being.

Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 = Daniel 11:45

Their geographical position is the same. "Gog's" country is in the north part in relation to the Holy Land; as it is written, "Thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts". "Gog" is therefore "the king of the north", his place or country being there.

Both of them are adversaries of Israel and invaders of the Holy Land. The eleventh chapter of Daniel abundantly proves this in relation to "the king of the north"; and of "Gog", Yahoueh said: "Thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land".
The time they invade the land is the same. "The king of the north" invades in the last days. Of "Gog" it is said: "It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land".
The same peoples are named as components of their armies. The Libyans and Ethiopians are allies with "the king of the north"; and in the enumeration of Gog's forces, it says, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them".
Who is "Gog"? Which land is the land of "Magog"?
Some people think that "Gog" is the Devil. But does the context support this idea? Ezekiel wrote that after "Gog's" last attack he will fall and then be buried by the people. (Ez.39:4,11) So there is no need to prove that "Gog" represents the Devil as we know that the devil does not have a body of flesh and bone and has no need for a grave. Thus, in actuality, whom does "Gog" symbolize?

"Gog" is the chief prince of Meschech and Tubal. Meshech, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2) is the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi people, inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs simply as a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendancy of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs and gave this name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East" (Easton's Bible Dictionary).

Many ancient sources have clearly identified "Magog" as referring to the "Scythians".
One of the earliest references to Magog was made by Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" who identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel.

Josephus Flavius clearly identified Magog. "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians". (Josephus, Antiquities, 1.123; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel 38:2)

The Greek historian Herodotus wrote that in the fifth century B.C. the Scythians ruled from the Don River, in present southern Russia, to the Carpathian Mountains in central Europe.

Philo, is another historian in the first century A.D. who identified "Magog" with southern Russia.

Ancient authorities clearly identified the Scythians as the ancestors of the present day Russians.

However, even without that information, the identity of "Magog" is not too difficult to figure out. In Ezekiel 38:15, it says: "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee". The "north parts" is literally the "extreme, or uttermost" parts of the north.

Who are "the kings of the north" and "south"? Who are the "kings" of this chapter?

Daniel 11:2
Since the Prophecy was given in the third year of Cyrus (Daniel 10:1), the three kings that were to "stand up yet", that is, "after him", were Cambyses II, Smerdis the Magian imposter, Darius I Hystaspes.

The fourth king, Xerxes I, stirred up Persia against Greece, which he invaded in 480 B.C. but failed to conquer. Since prophecy touches only upon important events and characters, the remaining kings of Persia are omitted, and the prophecy jumps over nearly 150 years to the time of Alexander the Great 336-323 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:3,4
"A valiant king", Alexander the Great, whose kingdom after his death was divided into four parts.
1) Seleucus I - who began the Seleucid (Syrian) empire, from Turkey to India.
2) Cassander - who took over Macedonia (Greece).
3) Lysimachus - who took Thracia (between Greece and Turkey).
4) Ptolemy I - who ruled over Egypt.

Daniel 11:5
After the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C., the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I Soter, the son of Lagus, the king of the south.
"One of his princes", Seleucus I, Nicator ["the king of the north"] also rose to power, and took over the region of Syria. He eventually became more powerful than his former Egyptian ruler.

Daniel 11:6
"The daughter of the king of the south" = Berenice II, daughter of Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus II Theos.
Two years after the marriage, Berenice's father (Ptolemy Philadelphus) died.
Antiochus restored Laodice and put away Berenice.
He was then poisoned by Laodice.
Berenice fled with her children to Daphne where she was killed.

Daniel 11:7-9
A "branch of her roots" will come with an army. This was Berenice's brother, Ptolemy III Euregetes, "the king of the south".
"The king of the north" is Seleucus II Kallinikos, son of Laodice who was defeated in a later invasion of Egypt. He lost most of Asia Minor along with losing to the military expansion of Ptolemy III who put his mother, Laodice, to death.
Verse 9: "And [the king of the north] will enter into the kingdom of the king of the south, but will return to his own land". (literal translation)
Seleucus II, son of the deceased Laodice, sought revenge for the vengeance taken by Ptolemy III. "Justin says that he fitted out a great fleet, which was destroyed by a violent storm; and after this he raised a great army to recover his dominion, but was defeated by Ptolemy, and fled in great terror and trembling to Antioch" (Gill's Commentary).

Daniel 11:10-12
His ["the king of the north"] sons = Seleucus III Ceraunus and Antiochus III the Great.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III, the Great.
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy IV Philopator.
Ptolemy IV defeated the much larger army of Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia in 217.

Daniel 11:13-17
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy V Epiphanes.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III.
Antiochus III gives his daughter Cleopatra I to Ptolemy V, in hopes of permanent influence in Egypt.
Verse 14a: "And in those times many will rise against the king of the south".
At this time, many of the Egyptians began rebelling against the ruling Grecian family and began rioting and defying them.

Verse 14b: "And the sons of the violent ones of your people shall rise up to establish the vision, but they shall stumble". (LIT)
This verse speaks of the violent sons of Daniel's nation. Many commentators suggest that these people will stand up against the king of the south, but this text foretells that these people will lift themselves up to establish the vision. They were called a violent people by Ezekiel who in this way described them as shedders of blood. (18:10a) The word vision [in Aramaic chezev; in Hebrew chazown] is used in the Book of Daniel e.g. in: 7:1,2,7,13,15; 8:1,2,13,15,17,26; 9:24; 10:14; 11:14. All of these visions prophecy of the future persecution of God's nation, that would be fulfilled in the distant future. (Daniel 8:17; 10:14)
What kind of violent people would lift themselves in the ancient time, to fulfill the inspired visions and prophecies before their time? The First Book of the Maccabees clearly indicates the Maccabees as being these violent people. (1:54; 6:7) Until now, many commentators believe that the Maccabees fulfilled the prophecies of the Book of Daniel. But Jesus said that the vision which concerns the abomination of desolation and the persecutions of God's nation will be fulfilled in the future. (Compare Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:1-Cool

Verse 11:16b "and he standeth in the desirable land, and it is wholly in his hand". (YLT)
After one hundred years, Palestine again changed hands. The Seleucid king, Antiochus III, took control of Palestine c. 200 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:18
Antioch III against the Roman Empire.
"Ruler" = Lucius Cornelius, the Roman general.
The Romans humbled him (191) at Thermopylae and again at Magnesia (190).

Daniel 11:19a
Subsequently, Antiochus was forced to campaign within his own lands to stop his satraps from declaring themselves independent rulers.

Daniel 11:19b
"He shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found" = end of the period of greatness for the Seleucid Empire. (Compare Revelation 18:21; Jeremiah 51:64)

Daniel 11:20
"And stood up on his station hath one causing an exactor to pass over the honour of the kingdom, and in a few days he is destroyed, and not in anger, nor in battle". (YLT)

"The king of the north" = Caesar Augustus. The first Roman emperor.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

In 2 B.C., Augustus sent out "an exactor" by ordering a registration, or census, most likely to learn the size of the population for purposes of taxation and military conscription. Because of this decree, Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem for registration, resulting in Jesus' birth at that foretold location. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1-12)

Daniel didn’t prophecy that "the king of the north" would die "after a few days" from this event, but would die in the undetermined future "after a few days". In the end of July, in the year 14 A.D., August left Rome. He took a vacation in his old age and health. On the 19th of August, after a short sickness, he "passed away peacefully, not feeling any pain". While traveling in Campania, Augustus died "in a few days", neither "in anger" at an assassin's hands nor "in warfare", but after a short illness.

Many say that "the king of the north" is Seleucus IV Philopater, who sent out his finance minister, Heliodorus to collect taxes. But Seleucus was murdered in a conspiracy engineered by Heliodorus. It is said that the king here was to however die a natural death (not one of anger or of battle). Therefore, this writing does not conform to Seleucus IV. Also, verse 21 cannot carry over to the rule of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel 11:21-23
Verse 21: "And in his place shall arise a despised. And they will not give him the royal majesty. He will come in a time of peace and will seize the kingdom through duplicity".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius 14-37.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

"The ruler of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua].

Augustus only chose him after more favored heirs had died.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says, Tiberius played politics with the Senate and did not allow it to name him emperor for almost a month [after Augustus died]". He told the Senate that no one but Augustus was capable of carrying the burden of ruling the Roman Empire and asked the senators to restore the republic by entrusting such authority to a group of men rather than to one man. "Not daring to take him at his word", wrote historian Will Durant, "the Senate exchanged bows with him until at last he accepted power". Durant added: "The play was well acted on both sides. Tiberius wanted the principate, or he would have found some way to evade it; the Senate feared and hated him, but shrank from reestablishing a republic based, like the old, upon theoretically sovereign assemblies". Thus, Tiberius took hold of the kingdom by means of duplicity.

Verse 22: "And the arms of the flood shall be swept from before his face, and they will be broken, and also the ruler of a covenant".

In 15 A.D., Germanicus led his forces against the German hero Arminius, with some success. However, the limited victories were won at great cost, and Tiberius thereafter aborted operations in Germany. Instead, by promoting civil war, he tried to prevent German tribes from uniting. Tiberius generally favoured a defensive foreign policy and focused on strengthening the frontiers. This stance was fairly successful. In this way "the arms of the flood" were controlled and were "broken".
"Broken" too was "the Leader of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua]. (Compare Isaiah 55:4; Daniel 9:25, 27a)

Verse 23: "And after they join themselves to him, he will do guile, and he will exalt himself, and will do strong by a few of the people".

The oath of loyalty bound the army and officials to the Tiberius.
"Sextus Pompeius and Sextus Apuleius, the consuls, were the first to swear allegiance to Tiberius Caesar, and in their presence the oath was taken by Seius Strabo and Caius Turranius, respectively the commander of the praetorian cohorts and the superintendent of the corn supplies. Then the Senate, the soldiers and the people did the same".
Those few people were the Roman Praetorian Guard, encamped close to Rome's walls. Its proximity intimidated the Senate and helped Tiberius keep in check any uprisings against his authority among the populace. By means of some 10.000 guards Tiberius remained mighty.

Daniel 11:24
"In a time of peace he will come against [sense: will attack] the fattest [sense: mighty] of the land, and he will do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers: prey, and spoil, and substance, their possession he will distribute. And against strongholds he will devise his schemes until the appointed time".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius and next emperors.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

The word "mashman" refers here to fattest [sense: mighty]. (Compare Ps.78:31 and Is.10:16)
Because he was very suspicious, Emperor Tiberius, extended the law of laesa majestas. Many senators were put to death on a charge of treason against the emperor. For the people of the provinces, it was a peaceful and well-ordered time.

Daniel 11:25,26a
Aurelian (270-275) against Queen Zenobia of Palmyra ["the king of the south"].

The Palmyrene army occupied Egypt in 269 B.C.E. under the pretext of making it secure for Rome. Zenobia wanted to make Palmyra the dominant city in the east and wanted to rule over Rome's eastern provinces. Alarmed by her ambition, Aurelian aroused "his power and his heart" to proceed against Zenobia.
Zenobia valiantly defended it, but without success. She and her son fled toward Persia, only to be captured by the Romans at the Euphrates River. The Palmyrenes surrendered their city in 272 B.C. Aurelian spared Zenobia, making her the prize feature in his triumphal procession through Rome in 274 B.C. She spent the rest of her life as a Roman matron.
Aurelian himself 'did not stand because of schemes against him.' In 275 B.C., he set out on an expedition against the Persians. While he was waiting in Thrace for the opportunity to cross the straits into Asia Minor, those who 'ate his food' carried out schemes against him and brought about his "breakdown". He was going to call his secretary Eros to account for irregularities. Eros, however, forged a list of names of certain officers marked for death. The sight of this list moved the officers to plot Aurelian's assassination and to murder him.

Daniel 11:26b. (Compare Daniel 9:26b)
"and his army will be flooded and many will fall down slain".

Decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

"The strength of Aurelian had crushed on every side the enemies of Rome. After his death they seemed to revive with an increase of fury and of numbers".

Daniel 11:27
"And both these kings, their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie. But it will not succeed, for yet (the) finish to (the) appointed time." (11:27, literal translation)
It certainly suggests that the verse does not concern to the ancient times. It describes the end of times right before the appointed time. (Compare Daniel 11:29a)

Russia and England (from second half of the XIX Century).

Egyptian history dates back to about 4000 B.C., when the kingdoms of upper and lower Egypt, already highly sophisticated, were united. Egypt's golden age coincided with the 18th and 19th dynasties (16th to 13th century B.C.), during which the empire was established. Persia conquered Egypt in 525 B.C.E, Alexander the Great subdued it in 332 B.C.E., and then the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled the land until 30 B.C., when Cleopatra, last of the line, committed suicide and Egypt became a Roman, then Byzantine, province. Arab caliphs ruled Egypt from 641 until 1517, when the Turks took it for their Ottoman Empire. Napoléon's armies occupied the country from 1798 to 1801. In 1805, Mohammed Ali, leader of a band of Albanian soldiers, became pasha of Egypt. After completion of the Suez Canal in 1869, the French and British took increasing interest in Egypt. British troops occupied Egypt in 1882, and British resident agents became its actual administrators, though it remained under nominal Turkish sovereignty. In 1914, this fiction was ended, and Egypt became a protectorate of Britain.
Russia grew expanding its power over huge regions, and by the end of XIX century Russia possessed territories from the mouths of the Danube and Visla in the west, reached the Pacific Ocean in the east, began in the Euroasian tundra in the north and had borders with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China in the south.

In 1907, an Anglo-Russian agreement divided Persia into English and Russian spheres of influence, a large Russian sphere in the north, covering the most valuable part of the country, a neutral sphere in the centre, and a smaller British sphere in the southeast.

Daniel 11:28
"And (he) ["the king of the north"] will go back (to) his land with great wealth; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land." (literal translation)

History of Russia after World War II.

The passage contains enough details, which allow for a correct interpretation.

Daniel foretells here that "the king of the north" [Russia] will not only be successful in WW II, but also that he returns to his land with a great amount of goods. If only Hitler had listened to Mussolini and the Japanese, who in 1943 advised him to stop military actions, the prophetic detail would have never been fulfilled.

Daniel 11:28b
"and turned back to his own land".

The break-up of the Soviet Union and return to the country of Russian garrisons (the liquidation of Russian military bases).

The prophecy of Daniel 11 is the key to understanding what is going to happen in the future.

The latter statements Jesus' and Daniel's are alike.


Matthew 24:5,6 (Luke 21:8,9) = Daniel 11:27,28 = XIX, XX, XXI Century, before the World War III

"Many for will come in the name of me, saying: 'I am the anointed'; and many they will mislead." (Matthew 24:5, literal translation)

"He said, 'Watch out that you don't get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, 'I AM,' and, 'The time is at hand.' Therefore don't follow them." (Luke 21:8, WEB)

"Don't be afraid when you hear of wars and revolutions; such things must happen first, but they do not mean that the end is near." (Luke 21:9, GNB)

Matthew 24:7 = Daniel 11:29,30 = WW III

Matthew 24:15 = Daniel 11:31 = "trampling of Jerusalem" [the great tribulation of Christian minorities; compare Revelation 11:2]

Matthew 24:29 = Daniel 11:40 = WW IV

Daniel 11:29a
"At (the) appointed time (he) will return, and will enter into (the) south."

1. Russian troops will be station abroad again.
2. "The king of the north" will come into the South.

Daniel 11:29b,30
"But will not be as (the) former or as (the) latter. For will come against him (the) dwellers of coastlands of Kittim, and (he) will be humbled, and will return." (literal translation)

1. The West will come against the Russia.
2. "The king of the north" will be humbled, and will return.
(Compare Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4)

Daniel 11:31
1. The nations will trample "the holy city" [of those who belong to Christ] forty-two months. (Compare Revelation 11:2,7; 13:5,7a; Luke 21:24b; Matthew 24:21,22; Daniel 7:25; 9:27; Isaiah 29:1-8,20-24; Matthew 13:40-43,49,50; Ezekiel 13:8-16,20-23; 34:10; 2Thessalonians 2:8b; Isaiah 28:1-4,17-22; 6:13; Malachi 3:1-5)

The religious organizations from among Christian minorities which Jesus compared to "the weeds", will be "burned". (Mt.13:30) Yahoueh will protect the righteous ones. (Re.11:1) "The wheat" will be put into "the storehouse" after the tribulation – which means that "the sons of the kingdom" will become gathered and unified at that time. They will shine as brightly as the sun after the tribulation.

2. "The abomination of desolation" [the World Government] will be set up. (Revelation 13:7b; Daniel 12:11)

Daniel 11:32-35
Details of their future global religious persecution. (Compare Daniel 8:11,12; Revelation 6:9-11; 12:15)

Daniel 11:36-39
Russia before the World War IV. (Compare Ezekiel 38:7)

Daniel 11:40
The World War IV. (Compare Luke 21:25; Isaiah 5:26-30; Matthew 24:29; Daniel 7:11; Revelation 13:3; Ezekiel 32:2-16; Habakkuk 1:5-17; Revelation 6:12; Zephaniah 1:14-18; Joel 2:1-11,31, ASV)

Daniel 11:41
Occupation of Israel. (Compare Ezekiel 39:23-29)

Daniel 11:42,43
The triumph of Russia. (Compare Isaiah 10:12-15)

Daniel 11:44,45
Russia again will attack Israel. (Compare Daniel 12:1; Joel 2:20; Isaiah 14:4-27; Habakkuk 3:3-16)

"Many will study, therefore understanding will be multiplied". (Daniel 12:4b)



What is the Bible's scenario?
1. Russian troops station abroad again. (Daniel 11:29a)

2. "The king of the north" becomes very aggressive and enters into the south. (Daniel 11:29a)

3. The West opposes Russia. (Daniel 11:30; Matthew 24:7a; Revelation 6:4)

4. "The king of the north" is humiliated, and turns back. (Daniel 11:30). He does not make the same mistake as Hitler did, he does not fight to the death and this is why Russia is not occupied.

5. The World Government appears after that war which replaces the ineffective UN. Its power gradually rises. (Revelation 13:1,2,7b; Daniel 11:31b)

6. Russia rebuilds its military power very fast and acts effectively on the world scene. (Daniel 11:30b)

7. "Russia’s rulers pay attention to those "who forsake the holy covenant". (Daniel 11:30b)

8. A man "of fierce countenance, and understanding ambiguous sayings" becomes the president of the USA, and he begins to fight with Christian minorities. (Daniel 8:23-25)

9. There is a tribulation of "Jerusalem" = it is a tribulation of Christian minorities, which lasts 42 month’s. (Daniel 11:31a; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:5-7a; Matthew 13:40-42,49,50; 24:48-51)

The Christian communities, which are now called sects, are decimated. It is the biggest genocide concerning religion in history. The eyes of people who were deceived by them will be opened. (Isaiah 6:9-13)

The "tyrant", according to LXX “lawless” = the rulers of Christian minorities will be removed. (Isaiah 29:1-8,20,21) Ezekiel calls them "women". (Ezekiel 13:17-23; Revelation 14:4a; Isaiah 3:12) Paul names them "the man of lawlessness". (2 Thessalonians 2:4,8b)

10. Immediately after the tribulation of those days "the abomination of desolation", in other words the World Government will be set up [will given authority; Revelation 13:7b]. (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11) The Book of Revelation calls it a "beast". (11:7; 13:1,2,7,Cool

11. The spirit is poured out upon people who belong to Jesus. (Revelation 11:11-13) The "wheat" = the sons of kingdom, will be gathered into the "storehouse" after burning the "weeds" = organized Christian churches which earlier posed as the churches of Christ. (Matthew 13:30b; Eph.1:9,10) And then Jesus will set up a "faithful slave" over his whole possession. (Matthew 24:45-47)

12. The seven trumpets start to sound. Those who belong to Jesus are revealing future events to the World. They will also try to explain what God thinks of certain issues. (Revelation 8:6-10:11)

13. The power in Russia will be taken over by a dictator who is atheist. The military power will be his god. (Daniel 11:36-39)

14. Not longer after that, there will be the WWIV. That time Russia will triumph the same as it did after the WWII. (Daniel 11:40; Daniel 7:11; Luke 21:25; Revelation 13:3a). "The king of the north" will act as a "God’s hammer" ravaging many countries like Babylon in ancient times. (Jeremiah 51:20,25)

15. Russia occupies Israel as well. (Daniel 11:41)

16. After that war the World Government is resuscitated. The "purple beast" will be given even more power. The politicians will relinquish their sovereignty in favor of the beast. (Revelation 13:14; 17:8,17)

17. Attack on "Babylon the Great" = big, apostatized churches, drunk with blood of innocent people, which betrayed God and Jesus by co-operating with kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:16)

18. Next, nations see the sign of the Son of man (Matthew 24:30). Probably it will be connected with the first resurrection (Revelation 20:6). People who have died in union with Jesus will rise first (among 144.000). They will get a spirit body at the resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:35,44) What will be the proof of the resurrection? Immediately after that, remaining of 144,000 will be transfigured (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). Simultaneously they will be caught away from the earth and taken to heaven. The transfigurations of belonging to Jesus dependably will not be seen and it will cause a great expression on nations.

19. The whole nation of Israel is converting and gathering. (Ezekiel 39:25-29; Romans 11:25-32). After taking to heaven belonging to group of 144,000 nation of Israel will be a light for the nations. God will be with them and will pour his spirit over them. (Ezekiel 39:29)

20. Rebuilding of the Temple according to directions given to Ezekiel. (Ezekiel 37:24-28; 43:11)

21. There will be collection of chosen, separation the "sheep from the goats". (Matthew 24:31; 25:31-44; Revelation 14:15,16).

22. "The king of the north" will attack people who worship the true God [Israel] (Ezekiel 38:10-12). "The beast" [the word government] also will take part in this attack. (Revelation 19:19).

23. After Armageddon the power on the world will be taken over by the "new heaven" = the kingdom of God i.e. Jesus and belonging to him. (Daniel 7:27; Matthew 6:10; Revelation 21:1-4) "The old heaven" = imperfect system of authority created by man will go away. Rules and the law created by imperfect people which are captivating and making difficulty will be untied. All activities remaining uncovered, good or bad will be revealed, all crimes will come to light. (2 Peter 3:10; 1 Timothy 5:25).

24. The rest of dead will come to life! The earth will become the paradise. (Acts 24:15; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; 25:8; 35:5-7). When the thousand year’s period of Jesus’ kingdom will end people who come to life during this period are put to the test. And then they will really come to life God’s point of view and then they will get ability to live forever. (Revelation 20:5a,7,8; comp. Luke 15:32; 1 John 3:14).



"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth will I cause you to hear them". (Isaiah 42:9)

see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. Ross
The previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6
..............
THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.

Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.
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Post  mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:28 am

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Post  mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:35 am

lilly: when you lie, twist and deform Scripture you are hurting yourself.......... thumbs up .............The biblical commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and restrictions on people limiting their freedom, but as a Divine Communication that can be seen as generous; teaching, instructing(Torah); Humanbeings how life works and what to do and not do to make the best of it. thumbs up

Within the mitzvot/commandments are all the instructions(Torah) neccessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap great benefit from living within alignment with the Laws of the Universe.

Who is wise?

They who can foresee the consequences of their action. thumbs up

In Hebraic/Biblical thought, the whole function of the Torah(instruction) is to turn the soul away from the things of the 'Flesh'; from egoistic to altruistic...........During our life our soul either attaches to the things of the 'flesh'---to the Path of Darkness; or it attaches to the things of the Spirit.............becoming a Child of the Light........ thumbs up
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Post  Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:15 am

le sabrage wrote:lilly: when you lie, twist and deform Scripture you are hurting yourself.......... thumbs up .............The biblical commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and restrictions on people limiting their freedom, but as a Divine Communication that can be seen as generous; teaching, instructing(Torah); Humanbeings how life works and what to do and not do to make the best of it. thumbs up

Within the mitzvot/commandments are all the instructions(Torah) neccessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap great benefit from living within alignment with the Laws of the Universe.

Who is wise?

They who can foresee the consequences of their action. thumbs up

In Hebraic/Biblical thought, the whole function of the Torah(instruction) is to turn the soul away from the things of the 'Flesh'; from egoistic to altruistic...........During our life our soul either attaches to the things of the 'flesh'---to the Path of Darkness; or it attaches to the things of the Spirit.............becoming a Child of the Light........ thumbs up
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le sabrage wrote:

Within the mitzvot/commandments are all the instructions(Torah) neccessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap great benefit from living within alignment with the Laws of the Universe.

becoming a Child of the Light........ thumbs up
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good point,good post...
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Post  sharky Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:54 am

Ahoy!!!! I agee billy, monsieur le sabrage and senor el kabong certainly have a nuanced and sophisticated understanding of this most influential Book.

I particularly enjoy how they take the ol' bat lilly to task for deforming and twisting scripture to support her perverse agenda....whatever that is.................it isn't the Truth. thumbs up
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:57 am

barnacle bill wrote:Ahoy!!!! I agee billy, monsieur le sabrage and senor el kabong certainly have a nuanced and sophisticated understanding of this most influential Book.

I particularly enjoy how they take the ol' bat lilly to task for deforming and twisting scripture to support her perverse agenda....whatever that is.................it isn't the Truth. thumbs up


ROFLMAO...I know who you are,evil sock-puppet number three or four for you by now....You're not I Hate Tiswas as well???


Hahahahahahaha,good to see


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tones which depict
the continents of ancient Earth. -

This is extremely
interesting..
read Genesis and read about
how rivers seperate the land.

There were no oceans.

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Advanced maps (pre flood)
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Astronomy etc

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Note you will not here this in the news..
it's a good thing these
stones were NOT located on American soil as well..
because it would of
been covered up extremely fast
like everything else that supports mans mistakes.

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Sun worship with Incan-like temple and figures

http://www.sqlspace.com/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=26670
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That's a llama you village fooking idiot.
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:57 pm

true lilly wrote:'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 Image57
tones which depict
the continents of ancient Earth. -

This is extremely
interesting..
read Genesis and read about
how rivers seperate the land.

There were no oceans.


Oh,for fuck sake,one day it's a water covered mass,the next week,new interpretation reveals,oh,only rivers seperated the land-mass,which one is it?
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Post  true lilly Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:06 am

And, the character of 'Ciggy' should have been 'retired', long ago,
around the time the character 'Ciggy' stopped trying to be clever
and witty, and simply resorted spitting out angry, bald faced lies,
in support of all the boastfully self confessed and self evident,
insane and evil loving, posters of bald faced lies...should have, IF,
some associated with "FOUNDATION", weren't actually helping
with 'The Sifting & Sorting'....of those who WANT TO FALL, with
THE FALLEN.
beetzart77 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:It's the sympathy industry whut keeps
'em in poverty: the free shipments of food drive down the price of
farm grown products which puts local African farmers out of business.
And without African farmers farming food, more and more shipments from
elsewhere are needed to avoid the starvation.

Africa used to be
ABUNDANT in food, before the NGOs got a hold of 'em. They sent the
first shipments of food to make them unable to self-feed, start the
vicious cycle of dependency.

I never thought of it
like that! So in a way all that Live Aid stuff was actually detrimental
to the people they were trying to help? Is this Geldof's fault
then?
As 'you' MOB sooo luuvvv SPAMMING....
"AFRICA" is a LARGE Continent....
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...BUT of MANY Nations, with MANY PROBLEMS...
like SEVER Climates, OVERLY ABUNDANT DISEASES of
Plants, Livestock and HUMANS...
ELEPHANTS, HIPPOS & BABOONS etc. that
HELP THEMSELVES TO CROPS, just before harvest...
oh and an awful lot of area that's simply
NOT GOOD FARMLAND...AND, when those areas FAIL,
the people CAN'T simply move, OVER BORDERS of the
FOREIGN Nation States on 'their continent', STRUGGLING
to care for their own people.
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Africa is the world's second largest and
second most populous continent, after Asia.
At about 30.2 million km² (11.7 million sq mi) including adjacent islands,
it covers 6% of the Earth's total surface area and 20.4% of the total land area.[2]

With 1.0 billion people (as of 2009, see table)
in
61 territories,
it accounts for about
14.72% of the world's human population.
The continent has 54 sovereign states,
including Madagascar and various island groups.

Africa is the hottest continent on earth;
drylands and deserts comprise 60%
of the entire land surface.
[56]
The record for the highest temperature recorded
was set in Libya in 1992.

But still, people like this
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Afrikaner Trekboers in the Karoo of South Africa


decided to CONvince Europeans to MOVE THERE???
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Sufi mosque in Ladysmith

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Beja bedouins from Northeast Africa


...while CONvincing them to STAY OUT of Australia,
by CONvincing them it's a "dangerous, unlivable desert",
JUST SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T SEE that GOD DID IN DEED,
KEEP HIS PROMISE to PRESERVE O'Zion for ISRAEL to
be Re-gathered into, to Re-plant, Re-build and START to
HEAL The World From.

And for a little more perspective...


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Mozambique
Area: 801,590 km2
Population: 22,894,000

Australia
Area: 7,617,930 km2
Population:
22,741,540


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And I THANK GOD,
WE are FREE to travel, work and LIVE,
over all this Glorious Land.


But, this land is ONLY a SIGN...
land, wealth, might, can't 'save' anyone!
ONLY The God Who left us so many signs,
of The Faithfulness of HIS LIVING WORD.


Oh and remember, the oral history of 'native' Africans
(that poor, old, western science told them to deny),
is the history that REMEMBERS Africa was NOT their
'homeland' but they came from A GREAT SOUTHERN LAND,
The Ancient, Great Southern Land where the Ancient, natives
REMEMBER Their History GOES BACK TO CREATION.

true lilly wrote:'tru lilly channeling New Age Neo Nazi Guru-Disinformation - Page 7 First-farmers
''The fresh terrases, lawns and grottos
with distinct plantations of the tallest
and most stately trees I ever saw in any
nobleman's grounds in England,
cannot excel in beauty those whose
nature now presented to our view,''

...so how did "they" then make the world
'believe', the "unlivable
desert" lie?
And WHY?


I just watched this on ABC24,
the link to the video of the programme is below,
and it shows much more than the news report.

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The Biggest Estate (on Earth)
Published:Friday, October 14, 2011 7:30 AEDT
Expires:Thursday, January 12, 2012
7:30 AEDT

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/10/14/3340516.htm?site=canberra§ion=news

Local author and historian Bill Gammage has a new book - with a
revolutionary perspective on the land management techniques of
Aborigines.

Tags:
nonfiction-books, history, indigenous-culture, aboriginal, australia, canberra-2600

Burning questions
Adrian Hyland
October 15, 2011
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Landscapes by artists such as John Glover
depict the ''park-like'' Australia described by early settlers.

WHEN Charles Darwin visited our shores, his impressions
of the indigenous inhabitants were far from complimentary: ''Harmless
savages wandering about without knowing where they shall sleep at night
and gaining their livelihood by hunting in the woods.''

If the most innovative thinker of the 19th century could
be so blinkered by his own preconceptions, so absurdly wrong, what hope
was there for his compatriots? Aboriginal Australians were regarded as
rootless, drifting, blown about by the wind and the weather, dependent
on the vagaries of a brutal climate to scratch out a precarious
existence in the harshest of environments.

Such perceptions were informed by 19th-century theories
of racial superiority, insinuated their way into the
''smooth-the-dying-pillow'' approach that characterised much of the
20th century and have echoes in the welfare dependence that racks
Aboriginal communities today.
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The Biggest Estate on Earth
by Bill Gammage.

In The Biggest Estate on Earth, ANU historian Bill Gammage
demolishes this view, demonstrating that Aboriginal people
not only brilliantly adapted to this environment - they created it.

Our vision of what pre-European Australia was like tends
to come from stretches of ''wilderness'', from scrub-covered ranges and
tangled gullies. But such does not seem to have been the experience of
the first Europeans.

''The fresh terrases, lawns and grottos with distinct plantations
of the tallest and most stately trees I ever saw in any
nobleman's grounds in England, cannot excel in beauty those whose nature
now presented to our view,''
commented First Fleeter Arthur Bowes
Smyth on the landscape around Sydney. Similar things were said of
Melbourne, where John Batman was enraptured: ''The most beautiful sheep
pasturage I ever saw in my life.''

Such comments ring out from the pioneers Gammage quotes
and the image is reinforced by the work of the colonial artists.


The trees were scattered, the scrub was thin. The soil
was so soft and dark you could sink a hand into it with ease. The rivers
were crystal clear. The plains were rich with game, the skies dark
with birds, the seas black with fish.

The picture Gammage paints is reminiscent of an armillary sphere:
an astonishing framework of interwoven circles and rings.

The life cycles of the flora and fauna - kangaroos and
koalas, grasses and yams and spear trees - were intimately connected,
perfectly balanced. What doesn't seem to have occurred to the settlers
was that, like the sphere, this intricate world was crafted by the
hand of man.

His thesis revolves around several environmental dilemmas:
how was it that plant species with diverse ecological
imperatives were living in such close proximity? Why was there grass
growing on the best soil in the valleys and scattered trees with little
undergrowth on the heights? How could species with such different fire
requirements be growing near each other?

He examines the works of the pioneer painters and
observes ribbon gum, blackwood and native cherry growing side by side.
Some trees need fire every five years, others every 10 years, others
not for centuries. In a landscape by John Glover, he uncovers evidence
of three distinct fire regimes: he finds wallaby traps and sanctuaries,
scattered trees that were useful for spears or medicine.

How could all this complexity have come about?

The logical answer, he concludes, was that it was
deliberately crafted by the first Australians.
And their main technique of control was fire.

The fire-stick was the most important implement in the
Aboriginal tool kit. They burned constantly: anthropologist Rhys Jones
estimates that a single family group would have lit about 5000 fires a
year. They burned to clear tracks, control insects, produce the ''green
pick'' that attracted game.

It was all done with greater skill and knowledge t
han white Australia could begin to imagine.

In Gammage's words, ''what the ecosystem needed, it got''.

Carefully crafted fire is the key to the incredible
complexity of the world he describes: it can trigger species to
regenerate (yam daisy) or sprout (banksia, waratah), to flower
(Christmas Bell) or germinate (hakea, heath), to die but set seed
(mountain ash). Fire provides essential nutrients, it activates soil
bacteria.

Aboriginal people viewed fire as a critical element of
the natural world, their burning based upon knowledge refined over tens
of thousands of years. Their fires were locally based, firmly
controlled, carefully crafted towards the needs of the landscape.

Inevitably, fire entered the Dreaming; walk into any
Aboriginal art gallery in the country and you are likely to come across a
painting whose motif is fire. Gammage quotes an elder from Arnhem
Land: ''You sing the country before you burn it - in your mind you see
the fire, you know where it is going, you know where it will stop.''

Then, in 1788, a new coloniser arrived, one more
interested in profit than knowledge. The carefully prepared landscape,
with its valleys and plains of waving grass, was an irresistible
temptation. Those areas most critical to maintaining the indigenous
ecology - the ''templates'', as Gammage describes them, where an
abundance of water, flora and fauna intersected - took on another value:
as pasture for sheep and cattle, as sources of profit.

But the settlers' understanding of the bush and its fire
regime was minimal. In some cases, they burnt to clear the land; their
burning was wild and indiscriminate. But then, as settlement became more
developed, as they acquired houses and towns, they attempted to
eradicate fire, just as they had eradicated the original inhabitants.

The results were disastrous.

Within a few years, with the destruction of Aboriginal
society and the disappearance of its fire regimes, much of the land the
explorers described as ''park-like'' was covered in thick scrub. Within
16 years, Victoria was ravaged by the inferno of Black Thursday. Ever
since, these monstrous conflagrations have roared out of the bush like
the vengeful ghosts of a vanquished world.

The Biggest Estate on Earth
is history of the most readable kind:
a fascinating amalgam of scientific enigma, bush lore and anecdote.


Gammage has an almost Borgesian instinct for capturing
complexity in a single sentence: after discussing the interweaving
trade routes that criss-cross the continent and along which objects
from seeds to shells could be transferred, he blithely comments:
''Anything could go anywhere.''

This is a beautiful and profound piece of writing, one
that has importance for us all. We live in the most fire-prone
environment on Earth. It was built to burn. Aboriginal people thrived
in this environment for thousands of years, their chief defences being
mobility, continual burning and an intricate understanding of the bush.

In Australia today, when we have lost that mobility and
when we burn in only the most haphazard manner, it is more important
than ever we understand our environment.
The Biggest Estate on Earth
makes a significant contribution
to that understanding.

■Adrian Hyland
is the author of Kinglake-350.

Bill Gammage discusses
The Biggest Estate on Earth

at noon on October 27
at the Wheeler Centre,
176 Little Lonsdale Street, city.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/burning-questions-20111014-1lote.html#ixzz1axLa71ZV
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''The fresh terrases, lawns and grottos
with distinct plantations of the tallest
and most stately trees I ever saw in any
nobleman's grounds in England,
cannot excel in beauty those whose
nature now presented to our view,''

...so how did "they" then make the world
'believe', the "unlivable
desert" lie,
for over 400 years?
And WHY?

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O islands 339; and let the people 3816
renew 2498 [their] strength 3581:
let them come near 5066 ;
then let them speak 1696 :
let us come near 7126 together 3162
to judgment 4941.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#1
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