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Post  MoMo Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:04 am

Yo!!!! Suzy Woo Woo, clue me up how lying about Gods Book is 'getting right' with Him, or for that matter, gossiping and judging and cursing others is 'getting right' with Him?

You, propose, without any credentials or prerequisite education in Hebrew, that you are able to interpret the Jews Sacred Hebrew scriptures better, more accurately; then ALL the Rabbis/Teachers and credentialed Biblical Scholars on Planet Earth and make the preposterous, unsupported claim that the Hebrew word Mizraim does not mean Egypt, or that the Hebrews did not sojourn from Egypt, through the Sinai into Canaan/Israel.

You're Hubris is so gargantuan you use a Language you do not know: Hebrew, and attempt to write the Jews and Israel out of their own Book.......your Hubris is of monumental size. You claim the Torah is 'done away' with and then proceed to reinterpret it.

Explain that. thumbs up


I proved you were wrong about your False Doctrine of Church replacement of the Jews and Israel Theology.

http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

I proved you wrong about your False Theology that Yahshua/Jesus and the Apostles 'did away' with YHWHs Torah/Instruction.

http://www.yrm.org/yah_p_law.htm

Romans 10:4—
For Yahshua is the ultimate result of keeping the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes.


"I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods in My presence..."
This commandment is to be aware that the God of Israel exists absolutely and influences all events in the world[23][dead link] and that the goal of the redemption from Egypt was to become His servants (Rashi). It requires the acknowledgment of the single God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the denial of the existence of false gods (Rashi)



Yahshua said (Matthew 23:37-40) “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang (hinge) all the law and the prophets.”

The whole point of Human existence is to learn and practice the SEcond Commandment that Yahshua declares...........Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. ........so far you are failing miserably............. thumbs up ...........gossiping, judging, fearmongering, bearing false witness...........time to shape up and fly right Suzy Woo Woo............... thumbs up

Time to stand Toe to Toe like you falsely claim you do......support your False Teachings.................you extract Scripture from it context to twist it to fit your bias, Noah was 10 Generations AFTER Adam, long after the continents divided, Peleg was 5 Generations after Noah, the verse you twist to claim it is about the Continents Dividing means no such thing...it is in relation to the Tower of Babylon incident when YHWH confused the tongues of Humankind and dispersed them to the far corners of the Earth.........the whole icident is about the Hubris of humans, something you should, but don't recognize....read/study the following Documents.
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Studies in the Book of Genesis Part 1:
The Curse of Canaan
Allen P. Ross


http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross_CurseOfCanaan_BSac.pdf


Genesis, the book of beginnings, is primarily concerned with
tracing the development of God's program of blessing. The bless-
ing is pronounced on God's creation, but sin (with its subsequent
curse) brought deterioration and decay. After the Flood there is a
new beginning with a renewal of the decrees of blessing, but once
again corruption and rebellion leave the human race alienated
and scattered across the face of the earth. Against this backdrop
God began His program of blessing again, promising blessing to
those obedient in faith and cursing to those who rebel. The rest of
the book explains how this blessing developed: God's chosen
people would become a great nation and inherit the land of Ca-
aan. So throughout Genesis the motifs of blessing and cursing
occur again and again in connection with those who are chosen
and those who are not......................The purpose of this section in Genesis, then, is to portray the
characteristics of the three branches of the human race in rela-
tion to blessing and cursing. In pronouncing the oracle, Noah
discerned the traits of his sons and, in a moment of insight,
determined that the attributes of their descendants were em-
bodied in their personalities.2 Because these sons were pri-
mogenitors of the families of the earth, the narrator is more
interested in the greater meaning of the oracle with respect to
tribes and nations in his day than with the children of Shem,
Ham, and Japheth.3
Shem, the ancestor of the Shemites to whom the Hebrews
belonged, acted in good taste and was blessed with the possession
of the knowledge of the true God, Yahweh. Japheth, the ancestor
of the far-flung northern tribes which include the Hellenic
peoples,4 also acted properly and thus shared in the blessing of
Shem and was promised geographical expansion. In contrast,
Ham, represented most clearly to Israel by the Egyptians and
Canaanites, acted wrongly in violating sexual customs regarded
as sacred and as a result had one line of his descendants cursed
with subjugation.5
So the oracle of Noah, far from being concerned simply with
the fortunes of the immediate family, actually pertains to vast
movements of ancient peoples...................Canaan, then, is the prototype of the population that suc-
cumbed to enervating influences and was doomed by its vices to
enslavement at the hands of hardier and more virtuous races.52
Because Ham, the "father" of Canaan, had desecrated the honor
of his father by seeing his uncovered nakedness, this divine and
prophetic oracle is pronounced on the people who would be
known for their immorality in a shameful way, a trait discernible
in this little story in the history of beginnings.
The blessing aspect is given to Shem, but the wording is
unexpected: "Blessed be the LORD [Yahweh], the God of Shem."
The emphasis on the possession of God by his name is
strengthened in this line in a subtle way. Delitzsch says, "Yahweh
makes himself a name in becoming the God of Shem, and thus
entwines His name with that of Shem, which means ‘name.’53
By blessing one's God, the man himself is blessed. The idea is
that Shem will ascribe his good fortune to Yahweh his God, for his
advantage is not personal merit; his portion is Yahweh.54 The
great line of blessing will be continued through Shem from Noah
to Abram, the man of promise.
Here again, however, the point of the oracle looks to the
descendants. It would then be clear to Israel, who found them-
selves in such a personal, covenantal relationship with Yahweh,
that they were the heirs of this blessing..........


4Unfortunately Part 2 I have not found on the 'Net, for free ($50).....here are Parts 3 & 4


Who is this 'god' you serve? It can't be YHWH. You know nothing of Him or His Plan for humankind.

Studies in the Book of Genesis Part 3:

The Table of Nations in

Genesis 10--Its Content

Allen P. Ross



http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.htm

THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)

More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of

Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,

Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-

Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine

respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both

places and tribes.

Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to

Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is

used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.

Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In

antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern

flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it

served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the

Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the

African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.

Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost

ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt...................Mizraim developed

into tribes. From the Egyptians sprang the Ludim, a group of

African tribes west of the Delta;36 the Anamim, in the vicinity of

Cyrene;37 the Lehabim, the Libyans on the north African shore

(Nah. 3:9 and Dan. 11:43); the Naphtuhim, the people of the

Delta (Lower Egypt); the Pathrusim, the people of Upper Egypt;38

the Casluhim, the people who dwelt east of the Delta between

Egypt and Canaan;39 and the Caphtorim, the Cretans.40

The clause "from whence come the Philistines" is problem-

atic because of its position in the text. Scripture connects the

origin of the Philistines with Caphtor (Amos 9:7; Deut. 2:23;

Jer. 47:4), but the Caphtorim, the Cretans, come after this

clause. While some have suggested rearranging the clauses, it

may not be necessary. The clause in the Table suggests migration

and not lineage. Amos has the Philistines from Caphtor in the

same sense that Israel was from Egypt--migration and not

origination.41 The difficulty may be solved by looking at their

origin and their migration from the Aegean bases through Caph-

tor into the Delta and finally into Palestine.

.................................That the promised land is central to the Table can be seen

from the arrangement of the descendants. The Japhethites are

spread from east to west across the northern frontier; the Ham-

ites surround the land from south to west; and the Shemites are

traced from the eastern to the southern borders of the land.

Moreover, the preoccupation with the Canaanites in the land of

promise shows the concern of the writer to fit the Table to the

message of the book: the fulfillment of God's promise to bless

Israel as a nation in that land, and to bless those nations that

bless her, and curse those who are antagonistic to her.

The Table then deliberately selected these tribes and traced

their development.
...............................The passage then refers to the developing line from Arpach-shad, using the form through Shelah to Eber. One of Eber's

sons is Peleg, in whose days the earth was divided (probably

referring to the division of nations at Babel 52). Once the Table

mentions Peleg, it traces his line no further.
.................According to Genesis, the new nation of Israel was to be

blessed as God's people in the land of Canaan. God's plan to bless

Israel involved the movement, displacement, and subjugation of

other peoples. The oracle of Noah in Genesis 9 anticipated the

blessing for Shem, along with Japheth, and the cursing of Ca-

naan, a son of Ham. This Table in Genesis 10 gives direction to

that oracle. It presents the lines of Shem and Japheth as pure

tribal groups around the promised land; it also presents the old

block of Hamites, especially the mixed races in the land of Ca-

naan, as the predominant powers on the earth
........................
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Studies in the Book of Genesis
Part 4:
The Dispersion of the
Nations in Genesis 11:1-9
Allen P. Ross
Introduction to the Passage


http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-DispersionGn11-BSac.pdf

THE NATURE OF THE ACCOUNT
The narrative in Genesis 11:1-9 describes the divine inter-
vention among the human family to scatter them across the face
of the earth by means of striking at the :heart of their unity- their
language. A quick reading of the passage shows that the pre-
dominant idea is not the tower of Babel but this scattering.
If the point is not simply the tower, then this passage does not
present, as some have suggested, a Hebrew adaptation of the
Greek Titans storming heaven to dislodge God. Rather, the char-
acteristics of the people in this story are anxiety and pride
through their own gregariousness.1 The tower, on the one hand,
is born from the people's fear of being scattered across the earth;
and on the other hand it is an attempt to frustrate God's plan to
fill the earth (Gen. 9:1).
The sin. Since the story has the trappings of a judgment
narrative in which Yahweh interrupts mankind's misguided
activities and scatters them abroad, it may be assumed that the
antithesis of this scattering must be the sin. The major error was
not the building of a city, but the attempt of the race to live in one
City.2 Therefore it appears that the human family was striving for
unity, security, and social immortality (making a name) in de-
fiance of God's desire for them to fill the earth.
Divine punishment. It is important to keep in mind that the
"judgment" was not the destruction of the city but of the language that united the people. It was shattered into a multiplicity
of languages so that the common bond was destroyed.3 Thus the
text is demonstrating that the present number of languages that
form national barriers is a monument to sin.....................So it is with this story that the common history of all man-
kind comes to an abrupt end, which leaves the human race
hopelessly scattered across the face of the entire earth. It is this
that makes the present narrative so different from those preced-
ing it: In each judgment there was a gracious provision for hope
but in this judgment there is none. It does not offer a token of
grace, a promise of any blessing, a hope of salvation, or a way of
escape. There is no clothing for the naked sinner, no protective
mark for the fugitive, no rainbow in the dark sky. There is no ray
of hope. The primeval age ends with judgmental scattering and
complete confusion. The blessing is not here; the world must
await the new history.
In view of this, the story of the scattering of the nations is
actually the turning point of the book from primeval history to
the history of the blessing. From this very confused and dis-
persed situation nations would develop in utter futility until God
would make a great nation through one man who himself would
be "scattered" from this alluvial plain to the land of Canaan. The
blessings of final redemption and unification would come
through his seed.........................Irony is seen in the beginning and the ending of this pas-
sage. The group at Babel began as the whole earth (11:1), but
now they were spread over the whole earth (11:9). By this the
lesson is clarified: God's purpose will be accomplished in spite of
the arrogance and defiance of man's own purposes. He brings
down the proud, but exalts the faithful.
The significance of this little story is great. It explains to
God's people how the nations were scattered abroad. Yet the
import goes much deeper. The fact that it was Babylon, the
beginning of kingdoms under Nimrod from Cush, adds a rather
ominous warning: Great nations cannot defy God and long sur-
vive. The new nation of Israel need only survey the many nations
around her to perceive that God disperses and curses the rebel-
lious, bringing utter confusion and antagonism among them. If
Israel would obey and submit to God's will, then she would be the
source of blessing to the world.
Unfortunately, Israel also raised her head in pride and re-
fused to obey the Lord God. Thus she too was scattered across the
face of the earth.

thumbs up wave cheers wacky boobies

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Bullshit lilly, I've countered every one of your false arguments, you have never replied. Define Zion....Mizraim.....Torah.........Israel..........you attack the jews, the Torah and Israel, you quote scripture like satan to distort and deform it to fit YOUR agenda....... thumbs up


......................For those who falsely claim that Yahshua Messiah/Jesus 'Did away with' the Torah/Laws of YHWH, I challenge you to explain these verses of Scripture.

http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

Matthew 4
1 Then Yahshua was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.

2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

3 And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the set- apart city, set Him on the edge of the Set- apart Place,

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, throw Yourself down. For it has been written, ‘He shall command His messengers concerning you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, so that you do not dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Yahshua said to him, “It has also been written, ‘You shall not try YHWH your Elohim.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,

9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Yahshua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’



Yahshua cites Torah 3 Times with Authority....beaware of the False Teachers.

Is the New Testament Yahweh's Word?

Don't Accept The New Testament As Yahweh's Word On The Basis Of Human Tradition

http://www.serveyahweh.org/Religion/newtestament.htm

In the context of the New Testament canon Yahweh's people should not accept that the New Testament is Yahweh's word simply on the basis of human tradition. For Yah'shuah has shown that human tradition is NOT the basis for determining true worship. The New Testament, or any portion of it, should only be accepted as Yahweh's word only where it is fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment. But if it, or any portion of it, is not fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment it cannot and should not be accepted as Yahweh's word or commandment!



Live By Every Word That Proceeds Out Of Yahweh's Mouth
Matthew 4:4 reads,

4:4But he answered, "It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’"

In these comments Yah'shuah quoted from Moses' words to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 8:3,

8:3He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn’t know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.



Truth Is Yahweh's Word

John 17:17 reads,

17:17Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.

It is therefore clear from Yah'shuah's words that human beings are to live by every word proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh. He also defines truth as Yahweh's word. Therefore living by the truth is living by Yahweh's word, living by Yahweh's commandment. This is what human beings are to live by, and not by human tradition, especially human tradition contrary to Yahweh's word.



To Believe Yah'shuah/Jesus You Must Believe Moses' Writings
John 5:46-47 reads,

5:46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote about me. 5:47But if you don’t believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Yah'shuah's words show that it is necessary for one to believe Moses' writings in order to believe him. In other words, those who believe Moses' writings are the ones who believe Yah'shuah, and those who do not believe Moses' writings are the one who do not believe Yah'shuah. Yah'shuah therefore implicitly affirmed that Moses' writings are indeed Yahweh's word.



Yah'shuah Didn't Destroy The Law Or The Prophets

Matthew 5:17-18 reads,

5:17"Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Yah'shuah therefore affirmed that the law and the prophets, the writings he affirmed as Yahweh's word, would continue in applicability even up to the time of the passing away of heaven and earth. Seeing that heaven and earth are still with us it is indeed the conclusion that nothing has passed away from the law, and it remains in full application.



Yah'shuah Commanded His Disciples To Abide By Moses' Authority

Matthew 23:1-4 reads,

23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 23:2saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses’ seat. 23:3All things therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but don’t do their works; for they say, and don’t do. 23:4For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.

Yah'shuah commanded human beings, including his disciples, to abide by the authority vested in Moses. In other words, he simply affirmed his word in Matthew 5:17-18, on the continuing applicability of the law or Yahweh's word as delivered by Moses to the children of Israel.



Believe What The Prophets Have Spoken

Luke 24:25-27 reads,

24:25He said to them, "Foolish men, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 24:26Didn’t the Christ have to suffer these things, and to enter into his glory?" 24:27Beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he explained to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Yah'shuah's usage of the writings of Moses and those of the prophets shows that he acknowledged these as Yahweh's word. For in Matthew 4 and 15 he clearly taught that human beings are to live only by Yahweh's word, and here he was indeed teaching his disciples by the writings of Moses and the prophets. Yah'shuah therefore acknowledged that the writings of Moses and the prophets are indeed Yahweh's word.


Live By The Writings In The Law Of Moses, The Prophets And The Psalms

Luke 24:42-49 reads,

24:42They gave him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 24:43He took it, and ate in front of them. 24:44He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

24:45Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures. 24:46He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 24:47and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 24:48You are witnesses of these things. 24:49Behold, I send forth the promise of my Father on you. But wait in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high."

According to Yah'shuah the collection of writings that made up Yahweh's word, what all human beings are to live by, is that called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms - what is today called the Old Testament. This is synonymous with the Scriptures, according to the author of the above words - Luke.



Yah'shuah's Disciples Of All Nations Are To Observe The Things He Personally Commanded His Disciples
Matthew 28:18-20 reads,

28:18Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 28:19Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 28:20teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Yah'shuah clearly commanded his disciples to teach new disciples of all nations to observe all things that he had commanded his disciples. He commanded them to live by every word that proceeds out of Yahweh's mouth. He also showed them that Yahweh's word is contained in the writings called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms (writings), now commonly known as the Old Testament. Therefore, the things that Yah'shuah's disciples are to observe are those that are contained in the writings commonly called the Old Testament. For observing the things in these writings is indeed living by words proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh, seeing that words that proceeded out of Yahweh's mouth are contained in these writings.



Yahweh's Word To His Disciples Concerning Verification Of Words

Isaiah 8:16-20 reads,

8:16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 8:17I will wait for Yahweh, who hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 8:18Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Hosts, who dwells in Mount Zion. 8:19When they shall tell you, "Consult with those who have familiar spirits and with the wizards, who chirp and who mutter:" shouldn’t a people consult with their God? On behalf of the living should they consult with the dead? 8:20To the law and to the testimony! If they don’t speak according to this word, surely there is no morning for them.

8:16 clearly shows that the testimony (prophets and writings) and the law (of Moses) should be bound and sealed among Yahweh's disciples. And in matters of light Yahweh's disciples are not to consult with forces of darkness. They are to consult only the law and the testimony. In other words, the very writings that Yah'shuah later used in affirming that he was indeed the Messiah, the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings, are the very same ones that Yahweh commands his disciples to consult. For light is contained in his word, which is recorded in these writings. And anyone speaking contrary to his word in these writings is devoid of light. In other words, any writing that is contrary to the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings is not Yahweh's word, but a word and work of darkness!



Another Test Yahweh Gives His People Concerning Verification Of Words

Deuteronomy 18:9-22 reads,

18:9When you are come into the land which Yahweh your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, 18:11or a charmer, or a consulter with a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12For whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh your God does drive them out from before you. 18:13You shall be perfect with Yahweh your God. 18:14For these nations, that you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice sorcery, and to diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your God has not allowed you so to do. 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; 18:16according to all that you desired of Yahweh your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yahweh my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I not die. 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken. 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 18:19It shall happen, that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. 18:21If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken? 18:22When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.



Don't Listen To Those Who Practice Abominations

Yahweh clearly warned the children of Israel not to listen to those who practice abominations - the practices of darkness as seen in Isaiah 8:16-20. It is on account of both practising these abominations and listening to the practitioners of these abominations that Yahweh cast out of the land of Canaan those who inhabited it prior to the children of Israel
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Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 False_teachers

................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an ddon't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................


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Post  mugglez Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:03 pm

el kabong wrote:Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


lillywilly...... wave

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Map_of_australia

Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf

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Post  true lilly Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:55 pm

German economy to slow next year - panel

And remember,
there are MORE GERMANS LEAVING GERMANY,
that Foreigners swarming in...AND,
Australia has ONLY sent
100 of 1370 ILLEGAL GERMAN'S
IN OZion
(to 30 June 2010), BACK TO GERMANY...

but then with so many GERMAN WW2 POW's,
sent here and being allowed to stay 'as' OZion's citizens
IN THIS LAND THEY PLAN TO TAKE FOR THEMSELVES,
and like so many of Their EUROPEAN Allies, LOOKING and
SPEAKING "like us", it's so easy for them to be hidden
amongst us...

true lilly wrote:
Interesting because
the more 'they' scream at the world to wake up,
the more those, starting to SEE,
God's Saving Revelations,

are beaten, cowed and BOUGHT into SELLING
DENIAL of The Light of Truth,
so feared and hated by The Willingly Evil.
barnacle bill wrote:You should take your own advice and: READ ALL THE WORDS. And then keep these sacred words in their honest and proper context. Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 832261
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 823521 Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 942327 Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 823521 Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 942327 Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 942327

There, I fixed "your" quote. Lets not confuse folk about who the angry, ranting drunken bitches are Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 832261 ...now, back to my quotes, and reply, IN CONTEXT
Wink Razz
Don't "you" have someone other than "yourself"
to SPAM "YOUR" LONG AGO DEBUNKED LIES AT?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to prove that ALL "YOUR" LIES
ARE EXPOSED, BY, "YOUR" REFUSAL TO ACCEPT that when
GOD SAID, "FROM THE BEGINNING", that IS WHAT HE MEANT?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to prove that there is no free and
open church, teaching that what is described in Holy Scripture,
is supported by the recent discoveries of science?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to cause honest people to ask,
"WHY IS THAT SO?", AND SO, CAUSE them to DISCOVER
THE ANSWER, FOR THEMSELVES?

true lilly wrote:Ah "SNOOP", yet another 'name' that demands belief in
long ago debunked myths (while denying all meaningful
discoveries of modern science), to sell more fearful following
of Death Worshiping Religions, kept 'alive' by belief in the
'out of Egypt time line', that "They" LIE is 'Biblical'.

Sorry, but you can't debate what was told us about
THE BEGINNING of Life Forming on One Super Continent,
when you insist on SKIPPING EVERYTHING DESCRIBED
BEFORE that One Super Continent Divided and Formed
new lands (like Turkey and it's Young Mountains), leaving
an INSANELY SHORT time line, that you then try to shove
ALL ANCIENT EARTH & HUMAN HISTORY into, just to try
to 'make a lie out of God's Word', that warned us about
the secret agenda of Liars like "SNOOP", and Promised to
provide Revealing Proofs of The Truth of God's Word, such
as many I have shared over the years.


"OVERSTAYERS" COULD FILL A CITY
Overstayers could fill a city
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 887914-barmy-army
Peter Mickelburough
EXCLUSIVE:

AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants
on the loose to fill a regional city -
and many are from Britain and America...

...oh, those Americans and Brits who would
rather be illegal Australians,
than legal Brits and Americans...
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 449107794

...hope at least some are on our side,
telling the truth of what 'secular democracy'
did to their once great nations.


SOCIAL MEDIA USED TO SPREAD BRITAIN'S RIOTS
Social media used to spread Britain's riots
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The only answer Any Ruling Government has
to mass uprisings of VIOLENT TWITTERING IDIOTS,
IS, 'MORE EFFECTIVE'/DEADLY VIOLENCE.

Just what "tintin/David Icke/Julian Assange et al"
SLAVE to SPREAD OVER ALL THE WORLD.

And what happy slaves they are, enjoying their
5 Star Lifestyles and 5 Star PRIVATE SECURITY,
while driving the poor and powerless to riot and DIE,
TO MAINTAIN "their" WEALTH and SECURITY!


"OVERSTAYERS" COULD FILL A CITY
Overstayers could fill a city
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 135725-federal-budget-2010-immigration
Peter Mickelburough
EXCLUSIVE:
AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants on the loose
to populate a large regional city, documents show.


58 comments on this story

Interactive: Where they came from
Overstaying: Guests abuse their welcome
Editorial: Illegal immigrant crisis needs fixing

...and "They" won't be happy until our country
is like this...!!!


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Protesters calling for,
the temporary military government in Egypt,
to cede power,
have been targeted by security forces
wielding tear gas and rubber bullets.

Seven people have been confirmed dead,
so far.


Picture: AFP
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Egypt's latest uprising

"Seven people have been confirmed dead,
so far.
"
, is ONLY the count SO FAR, for THIS,
LATEST round of violence,
"they've" whipped
the twittering masses into, all over the world.

Now if we would only send the UNGRATEFUL,
SELFISH, SELF SERVING, SPOILED BRAT, 'australian'
IDIOTS pushing "their" genocidal agenda here,
to those lands where, like DAVID ICKE Official Forums,
freely sharing the teachings of The Creator of Life,
IS BANNED and CAN GET YOU KILLED, maybe they
would finally see, that the first step to bloody downfalls,
is to turn your back on The Creator of Life and reject
The Wisdom of His Faithful Word.

As The Majority, in these Nations (like their RELIGIOUS Brothers,
The Majority in our OVER CROWDED Neighbouring Nations, using
every trick in the book to get into Australia), SO PROUDLY DO!

Oh, but "they" are DEMANDING DEMOCRACY!... that system
where The Majority of Twittering Idiots are "empowered" with
"voter numbers" to CHANGE OUR LAWS, FOR "THEIRS"!!!

That system that keeps making more of Europe look like...


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An Egyptian police vehicle burns as protesters chant during the clashes.

A member of the military council, Major General Mohsen el-Fangari,
said protesters' calls for change ahead of the election
were a threat to the state.


''What is the point of being in Tahrir?'' he asked,
speaking by phone to a private TV channel.


''What is the point of this strike, of the million marches?
Aren't there legal channels to pursue demands
in a way that
won't impact Egypt ... internationally?


''The aim of what is going on is to shake the backbone of the state,
which is the armed forces.''


Middle East and North Africa in turmoil
Anti-government protests are spreading rapidly
through the Middle East and North Africa.
Use this chart to keep up with all of the demonstrations,
day by day.
Click a country on the map or the tabs below to read more.

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Post  mugglez Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:35 am

no lie lilly, you are a neo NAZI, anti semite.....and a pathological liar...... thumbs up

true lilly wrote: Ah "SNOOP", yet another 'name' that demands belief in
long ago debunked myths (while denying all meaningful
discoveries of modern science), to sell more fearful following
of Death Worshiping Religions, kept 'alive' by belief in the
'out of Egypt time line', that "They" LIE is 'Biblical'.

Sorry, but you can't debate what was told us about
THE BEGINNING of Life Forming on One Super Continent,
when you insist on SKIPPING EVERYTHING DESCRIBED
BEFORE that One Super Continent Divided and Formed
new lands (like Turkey and it's Young Mountains), leaving
an INSANELY SHORT time line, that you then try to shove
ALL ANCIENT EARTH & HUMAN HISTORY into, just to try
to 'make a lie out of God's Word', that warned us about
the secret agenda of Liars like "SNOOP", and Promised to
provide Revealing Proofs of The Truth of God's Word, such
as many I have shared over the years.
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What are you blind? You didn't see the first two Posts? You don't believe Genesis 10, the Table of Nations, you don't know that life began beneath the sea before it appeared on land? You don't know/understand that human life is quantitatively and qualitateively different then all other life on this Planet and the Universe?





lilly, you falsely claim that no one responds/refutes your 'claims' that australia is the Biblical 'promised Land'. That you falsely 'claim' that australia is the Biblical Zion.

That you 'claim' that the land of egypt is not mentioned in the Bible, that some of the events of Abraham, Joseph, and the Tribes of the Hebrews/Israelites did not take place in Egypt.

You also Falsely claim that Yahshua/Jesus 'did away' with the Torah/Instruction of YHWH-Yahweh.

You also Falsely claim that 'spiritual Israel' replaces the Jews and the geographical Israel.


ALL of your 'claims' are FALSE and I, Senor El Kabong, Monsieur Le Sabrage and Barnacle Bill have refuted ALL your 'claims', proving them to be FALSE and wrong with credentialed Scholarship and credentialed Academic and Theological Sources.

Here is your challenge. Will you run away as always, obfusicate the clear meanings or will you 'stand toe to toe' and support your FALSE 'claims' with credentialed sources that can be verified.

Truth IS NOT ambiguous and subject to personal opinion. TRUTH is FACT/Reality. Below is a Timeline of the Earths Evolution.........from the beginning. Notice the formation and dissolution of the various Super-continents. Also notice the great oxidization of the earths atmosphere event.......all supported by the fossil record. Do you agree or disagree?


The Kloo Store is open!!!!! The words you are talking about ORIGINALLY were scribed in Hebrew, at Sinai. Circa approximately 1,500 BCE............examine this authentic scientific Timeline............Notice, if you will when the Landmasses SEPARATED..........Notice if you will the Oxidization of the Atmosphere.......before you babble anymore nonsense acquire the Genesis Enigma by Andrew Parker......all you are doing is Antisemitic/judeophobic propaganda replacement bullshit...... ..


http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/timeline.html



Counting Backwards from Now

60 years ago - Invention of the computer.

130 years ago - Invention of the telephone.

180 years ago - Fossil fuel revolution: coal, trains.

540 years ago - Invention of the printing press.

5,500 years ago - Invention of the wheel, writing.

7,600 years ago - Sahara desert starts forming in northern Africa.

8,800 years ago - The first cities.

10,300 years ago - End of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

12,700 - 11,500 years ago - the Younger Dryas.

18,000 years ago - Cultivation of plants, herding of animals. Homo sapiens arrives in the Americas.

21,000 years ago - Last glacial maximum: ice sheets down to the Great Lakes, the mouth of the Rhine, and covering the British Isles.

32,000 years ago - Oldest known cave paintings.

35,000 years ago - Invention of the calendar, extinction of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens arrives in Europe.

50,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in central Asia.

100,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in the Middle East.

110,000 years ago - Beginning of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

130,000 years ago - Beginning of the Eemian interglacial.

200,000 years ago - Beginning of the 2nd most recent glacial period: the Wolstonian glaciation.

250,000 years ago - First Homo sapiens.

350,000 years ago - First Homo neanderthalensis.

380,000 years ago - Beginning of the Hoxnian interglacial.

450,000 years ago - Beginning of the 3rd most recent glacial period: the Kansan glaciation, during which ice sheets reached their maximum extent in the Pleistocene, down to Kansas and Slovakia.

620,000 years ago - Beginning of the Cromerian interglacial.

1.4 million years ago - First firemaking by humans.

1.9 million years ago - First Homo erectus.

2.5 million years ago - First Homo habilis. Beginning of a period of repeated glaciation (loosely speaking, "ice ages").

3 million years - Cooling trend causes year-round ice to form at the North Pole.

3.9 million years ago - First known Australopithecus afarensis.

5 million years ago - Humans split off from other apes (gorillas and chimpanzees).

21 million years ago - Apes split off from other monkeys.

24 million years ago - Cooling trend causes the formation of grasslands; Antarctica becomes covered with ice.

34 million years ago - Gondwanaland finishes breaking up, with Australia and South America separating from Antarctica.

50 million years ago - India begins to collide with Asia, eventually forming the Himalayas.

67 million years ago - Asteroid hit Mexico, causing the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. End of dinosaurs. 50% of all species died out! Intensification of world cooling trend.

114 million years ago - First modern mammals. World begins to cool.

150 million years ago - First birds.

200 million years ago - Pangaea began to split into separate continents: Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north, separated by the Tethys Sea.

205 million years ago - The Triassic-Jurassic extinction. End of large amphibians and many reptiles.

235 million years ago - First dinosaurs, flowers.

250 million years ago - The Permian-Triassic extinction. 90% of all species died out! Formation of the supercontinent Pangaea, with surrounding ocean Panthalassa.

313 million years ago - First reptiles.

365 million years ago - The Late Devonian extinction. 70% of marine species died out! First amphibians, trees.

395 million years ago - First insects on land.

415 million years ago - The Old Red Sandstone Continent, also known as Laurussia, is formed by the collision of Baltica and Laurentia at the beginning of the Devonian.

440 million years ago - The Ordovician-Silurian extinction. Most marine species died out.

670 million years ago - First animals.

630-850 million years ago - The Cryogenian Period, also known as Snowball Earth - the worst ice age in the Earth's history.

800 million years ago - The supercontinent Rodinia begins to break up.

1 billion years ago - Formation of the supercontinent Rodinia


1.3 billion years ago - First plants.

1.6 billion years ago - First blue-green algae.

2.4 billion years ago - The Great Oxidation Event: the Earth's atmosphere gets oxygen.

3 billion years ago - Formation of the first known continent, Ur.
3.8 - 4 billion years ago - The Late Heavy Bombardment: a period during which the Earth, Moon, Venus and Mars were subjected to many asteroid impacts, after a relatively calm period of several million years.

4 billion years ago - First life on Earth. wave


4.45 billion years ago - Formation of Earth complete; storm of asteroid impacts.

4.5 billion years ago - Formation of the Moon: according to the Giant Impact Hypothesis, this happened when Theia collided with proto-Earth.

4.55 billion years ago - Formation of the Solar System.

13.3 billion years ago - Reionization: the first stars heat and ionize hydrogen gas.

13.3 - 13.7 billion years ago - The Dark Ages, after the formation of hydrogen and before the first stars.

13.7 billion years ago - The Big Bang: beginning of the universe as we know it!


The Genesis enigma: How DID the Bible describe the evolution of life 3,000 years before Darwin?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200486/The-Genesis-enigma-How-DID-Bible-evolution-life-3-000-years-Darwin.html#ixzz1eMgMePRe

The revalation came to Professor Andrew Parker during a visit to Rome. He was in the Sistine Chapel, gazing up at Michelangelo's awesome ceiling paintings, when a realisation struck him with dizzying force.
'A Biblical enigma exists that is on the one hand so cryptic it has remained camouflaged for millennia, and on the other so obvious one cannot miss it.'
The enigma is that the order of Creation as described in the Book of Genesis, and so powerfully depicted in the Sistine Chapel by the greatest artist of the Renaissance, has been precisely, eerily confirmed by modern evolutionary science.

Yet how on earth could this be possible? And why had nobody noticed it before?
Such was the starting point of Parker's jaw-dropping new book, The Genesis Enigma: an astounding work which seeks to prove that the ancient Hebrew writers of the Book of Genesis knew all about evolution - 3,000 years before Darwin.
It takes a journey back through aeons of geological time, and also into the minds and imaginations of the ancient Israelites.
Andrew Parker is a leading scientist in his field: a research fellow at Oxford University, research leader at the Natural History Museum, and as if that weren't enough, a professor at Shanghai's Jiao Tong university.
As a scientist he never paid much heed to the Book of Genesis, assuming, like most of his colleagues, that such primitive mythology - which is believed to have been compiled from several sources between 950 and 500 BC - has long since been 'disproved' by hard scientific fact.
But after his Sistine Chapel moment, he went back to look at Genesis in more detail. And what he read astonished him. It was even, he says, 'slightly scary'.
Somehow - God alone knew how - the writer or writers of that ancient text had described how the evolution of life on earth took place in precise detail and perfect order.
Our ancestors possessed a truly timeless wisdom It is always disturbing and haunting to encounter an ancient wisdom that seems to anticipate or even exceed our own.
More fanciful writers immediately start to theorise wildly: that those who built the pyramids, or Stonehenge, must have been guided by super-intelligent aliens, that sort of thing.
Andrew Parker, a scientist and proud of it, has no time for such twaddle. But he does gradually come to understand, in the course of his investigations, that our ancestors of thousands of years ago, though they may not have had iPods and plasma-screen televisions, nevertheless possessed a wisdom that was, quite literally, timeless: as true now as it was then.
In the Book of Genesis, God first and most famously creates heaven and earth, but 'without form', and commands: 'Let there be light.' A perfect description of the Big Bang, that founding moment of our universe some 13 billion years ago, an unimaginable explosion of pure energy and matter 'without form' out of nothing - the primordial Biblical 'void'.
He then creates the dry land out of the waters, but it is the water that comes first. As Parker points out, scientists today understand very similarly that water is indeed crucial for life.

When 'astrobiologists' look into space for signs of life on other planets, the first thing they look for is the possible presence of water.
On the third day, we are told: 'God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."'
Now factually speaking, grass didn't evolve until much later. In the Triassic and Jurassic epochs, the dinosaurs knew only plants such as giant conifers and tree ferns. But since grass did not in fact evolve until much later, a sternly literal-minded scientist would declare the Bible wrong, and consign it to the nearest wheelie bin.
But wait a minute, says Parker. If you take 'grass, herb and tree' to mean photosynthesising life in general, then this is, once again, spot on.

The very life forms on earth were single-celled bacteria, but the first truly viable bacteria were the 'cyanobacteria' - those that had learned to photosynthesise.
As a result, they began to expire oxygen, creating an atmosphere that could go on to support more and more life. They were the key to life on earth.
Naturally, says Parker, 'the ancient Israelites would have been oblivious to any single-celled life form, let alone cyanobacteria', but 'grass' as a loose description of life forms that photosynthesise?

On the fourth day, Genesis famously becomes confusing. On the first day, remember, God has already created light, and made Day and Night. But it isn't until day four that he makes the lights in heaven, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser the night.
Hang on - so he made 'Day' three days before he made the Sun? Houston, I think we have a problem.

Yet the writers of Genesis were just as well aware as us, surely, that the sunrise causes the day. You don't need a degree in astronomy to work that one out. What on earth did they mean?
Here, The Genesis Enigma comes up with a stunningly ingenious answer. For Parker argues that day four refers to the evolution of vision.
Until the first creatures on earth evolved eyes, in a sense, the sun and moon didn't exist. There was no creature on earth to see them, nor the light they cast.

When Genesis says: 'Let there be lights... To divide the day from the night,' it is talking about eyes.
'The very first eye on earth effectively turned on the lights for animal behaviour,' writes Professor Parker, 'and consequently for further rapid evolution.'
Almost overnight, life suddenly grew vastly more complex. Predators were able to hunt far more efficiently, and so prey had to evolve fast too - or get eaten.

The moment that there were 'lights', or eyes, then life exploded into all its infinite variety.
And yet again, that's what Genesis says happened, and in the correct environment too. In the sea.
For on the very next day of Creation, the fifth day: 'God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life."'

That is exactly what happened. Life that had hitherto been lived in the dark, by simple, slow-moving, worm-like creatures, erupted into dazzling diversity. We know all about it from the world famous Burgess Shale fossils.
They were discovered in the summer of 1909 by one Charles Doolittle Walcott, on holiday with his family in the Canadian Rockies. Walcott began to chip away at the shale with his geological hammer, and quite by chance stumbled upon one of the greatest finds in all science.
For the shale records what happened on our planet around 508 million years ago, long before the first dinosaurs: the 'Cambrian expolosion,' which most scientists now think was indeed the direct result of the evolution of vision.
Life on earth exploded in all its infinite variety The life-forms discovered look like nothing else: fabulous, phantasmagoric, alien beings. One had five eyes, and a long wavy snout with jaws on the end. Another looked like an octopus with its head stuck in a beaker, and another can only be described as 'a swimming pea with a pair of beady eyes, bull's horns, a pair of "hands" and a fish's tail.'
Others resemble balls of spines, vase-shaped pin-cushions, or badminton shuttlecocks with chameleon-like tongues. Anyone who doubts the power of evolution by natural selection only has to look at the Burgess Shale fossils.
How does Genesis describe the teeming aquatic life of the Cambrian explosion? 'And God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life." ' Immediately following the creation of vision.
How did the writer/writers know that life suddenly diversified into this rich and staggering variety, under the oceans, not on land? Why would a very much land-based people, pastoralists and shepherds, even think like this?
After the Cambrian come the Ordovician, Silurian and Devonian periods - or the appearance of 'great whales', as Genesis succinctly puts it.
How better to describe those epochs which gave us such monsters of the deep as Dunkleosteus, a carnivorous armoured fish whose appearance, says Parker, was 'simply terrifying'. Some 35ft long, 'the size of a small coach', with massive, bone-crunching jaws, even its eyes were armoured.
And after the sea monsters come the birds, the animals, cattle, and finally, homo sapiens. All present and correct, and all still in the right order. Once again, 'In describing how the planet and life around us came to be, the writer of the Genesis narrative got it disturbingly right'.
So what should we make of the extraordinary findings of The Genesis Enigma?
Professor Parker is clear on this subject. 'It would be a great shame if my findings were either misused in an attempt to suggest that scientists themselves are unsure about science, or pounded out of all recognition into support of the seven-day creation premise.'
There is no doubt that literal-minded Creationists do a disservice to the triumphant achievements of modern science, and to the beauty and poetry of the Bible. Evolution is taking place around us all the time. It's why the MRSA superbug has become so dangerously immune to antibiotics, why the race is on to beat the swine flu virus.
Nevertheless, when Parker comes to explaining how the writers of Genesis knew what they knew, he can only conclude that it was due to 'divine intervention', or 'a lucky guess'. Since the odds of the latter seem fantastically remote, Parker tentatively suggests the former.



That totally refutes your unsupported claims. You pervert The Word of God, you dismiss and attack the Torah, Gods instruction to humanity, you claim to replace the jews and Israel based upon distorted and deformed interpretation of Hebrew Texts.......you.........suzi/lilly are the proverbial False Prophet, a pessimist, it took you a week to respond to an honest debate and you lied and bullshitted... thumbs up

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Post  true lilly Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:12 am

JAILED, BORDER AGENT WHO
LET IN 44 ILLEGALS

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There was no proof Nigerian-born Shoyeju’s crimes were motivated by money

Saturday November 26, 2011
By John Twomey

A ROGUE Border Agency official was jailed for seven years yesterday after allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain.

Samuel Shoyeju granted the “treasured status”
of indefinite leave to remain
to at least 44 non-EU residents, none of whom had the right to be in the UK.

It left the immigrants free to claim benefits and apply for full citizenship.
Only 14 of them have been traced.

There was no proof Nigerian-born Shoyeju’s crimes were motivated by money but
thousands of pounds did enter his bank account, Basildon Crown Court heard.

Judge Christopher Mitchell told him: “Actions like yours call into question in
the public mind the entire integrity of the immigration system when, at the
present time, immigration and immigration decisions are extremely sensitive.”
Lucy Kennedy, prosecuting, said: “This case has cost the taxpayer a
significant amount of money, both in terms of the investigation and in
terms of those who remain in the country untraced.


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“This case has cost the taxpayer a

significant amount of money, both in terms of the investigation and in
terms of those who remain in the country untraced
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Lucy Kennedy, prosecuting


“He abused the system he was employed to protect and he did so for his own
selfish reasons, not out of some misguided sense of altruism. It was a breach of trust
which will no doubt undermine confidence in public servants employed to protect UK borders.”

Shoyeju, 53, of Canvey Island, Essex, worked as a line manager at
the Croydon immigration headquarters.

He amended and destroyed records to cover his tracks and used colleagues’
date stamps and accessed secure databases with other people’s sign-ons
to divert suspicion away from himself.

Shoyeju arrived in the UK in 1988
and was allowed to remain until 1991 on a student visa.






The father-of-three was granted indefinite leave to remain
after marrying a British woman
and was granted full citizenship in 1996.

Joe Dugdale, of the UK Border Agency, said: “Samuel Shoyeju abused the trust placed
in him as a public servant and his sentence reflects the severity of his crimes.

“The
UK Border Agency expects the highest levels of integrity and behaviour
from its staff. The vast majority of staff carry out their jobs with
professionalism and integrity.”
Twenty police injured in nuke protest
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AP
GERMAN police say
20 policemen were injured
during clashes with protesters
ahead of the arrival of
a shipment of nuclear waste.

true lilly wrote:Nuclear waste train heads into Germany
From:AFP
November 25, 2011 9:45PM
Last Updated: November 26, 2011

THE last train carrying reprocessed nuclear waste back from France
to Germany crossed the border today after being delayed by
demonstrations and steamed towards more trouble.

The train, carrying 11 wagonloads of vitrified radioactive material,
left a siding in the station of Remilly, just outside the town of Metz
and around 30km from the German border, at 7pm (AEDT).


Several hundred French riot police had protected the train overnight, and
around 60 German officers and a French "RAID" team - a SWAT-style
special weapons squad - were on board as it resumed its journey.


The train had left a yard operated by the French nuclear giant Areva in
Valognes, in Normandy, on Wednesday, due to travel more than 1100km
across France and through Germany to the waste dump in Gorleben.


But violent anti-nuclear protests delayed its journey, and authorities
halted it overnight while trying to keep demonstrators guessing about
its eventual route across the border and back into Germany.


Related Coverage

  • Nuclear train on track for protest Herald Sun, 1 hour ago
  • French nuclear firm hit by Japan disaster Herald Sun, 16 Sep 2011
  • One dead in nuclear power plant blast Perth Now, 13 Sep 2011
  • Explosion rocks French nuclear plant The Daily Telegraph, 13 Sep 2011
  • Misled into a cold and dark future The Daily Telegraph, 15 Jul 2011

Today, it finally crossed the frontier in the border town of Forbach, just south of Saarbrucken, and entered Germany.

Last November a similar controversial shipment took 91 hours to arrive at
its final destination - a day longer than planned - and it was dogged
the length of the route by French and then German protesters.


Around 50,000 activists turned out in Germany to try to disrupt the train
during that transfer, and protest organisers expect 20,000 to demonstrate
against the convoy as it nears the central town of Gorlebenlater on Friday.


Some 19,000 German officers have been deployed, and tear gas and water canon
were fired when clashes erupted overnight when a few hundred protesters tried
to block the line around 20km outside Gorleben.


Spooked by Japan's Fukushima disaster, Germany has decided to phase out its
use
of nuclear power, and thus bring to an end the controversial practice
of sending radioactive waste overland to France for reprocessing.


Anti-nuclear activists want France to follow suit and shut its reactors, an idea
firmly dismissed by President Nicolas Sarkozy, whose government believes
French industry is reliant on cheap nuclear-generated electricity.


There has long been widespread public opposition in Germany to nuclear power,
which environmentalists believe presents an unacceptable radioactive threat
to public health and the environment.


In March, the Japanese nuclear plant at Fukushima Daiichi was hit by an earthquake
and a tsunami, triggering a meltdown and massive radiation leak - and increasing
worldwide concerns over nuclear power.


Chancellor Angela Merkel's government agreed to halt German reactors by 2022,
forcing energy suppliers to close plants and levying a tax on fuel.


In the meantime, Germany will no longer send nuclear waste for
reprocessing in France, but will instead stockpile it until a way is
found to make it safe.


France produces 75 per cent of its electricity needs in nuclear plants - a
higher proportion than any other country - and its electricity bills are around
25 per cent cheaper than in its neighbours, a boon to industry.


German protesters are angry that Merkel's announced nuclear phase-out will
take another decade, and that there is still no permanent storage site for the waste generated in the country's reactors.
German mother
gives birth to gigantic baby,
names him 'Jihad'

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Mother Elfi holds her son Jihad at Charit Campus hospital in Berlin.
Picture: AP Sunday Herald Sun


AN obese German mother gave birth to a gigantic baby boy
without the help of a C-section, and named him
"Jihad."
The newborn -- the mother's 14th -- weighed in at 5.9kg

Opposition demands asylum-seeker vote
From:AAP
November 26, 2011
5:06PM

THE Federal Opposition has challenged the Government to recall
Parliament and attempt to pass amendments to the Migration Act.

The Government failed to get the planned amendments through
Parliament in October after the Opposition refused to support the
legislation.


The amendments, if passed, would allow the Government
to resurrect the Malaysia asylum-seeker people swap deal and restart
offshore processing.


But after Liberal MP Peter Slipper's appointment as Speaker on Thursday,
opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said the Government now
had the numbers to pass the amendments.


"On Thursday of this week the government had the numbers to pass
its Migration Act amendments through the House of Representatives,"
he told reporters in Sydney today.


"And after it completed its grubby deal for the speakership it could have brought
that matter to a vote ... and secured the passage of that bill.

Related Coverage

  • 'Use Slipper's vote to pass Migration Act' Perth Now, 1 hour ago
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  • Gillard rejects 'tricky' vote tactic Foundation, 12 Oct 2011
  • Crossbenchers buoy Labor Foundation, 12 Oct 2011
  • Key MP still undecided on asylum changes The Australian, 11 Oct 2011

"The Government must recall Parliament for them to consider
the Migration Act amendment and vote on it on Monday."


However, the Greens oppose the Bill, so it could not pass the Senate
without the support of the Opposition.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard said last month the Government remained
committed to the Malaysian solution and the amendments to allow it
would remain on the parliamentary notice paper.


NATO air attack on Pakistan 'kills eight'
From:AFP
November 26, 2011
5:53PM


NATO helicopters from Afghanistan
carried out an "unprovoked" attack
on a Pakistani border post,
killing at least eight troops today,
the military said.


"ISAF/NATO helicopters carried out unprovoked and indiscriminate
firing on a Pakistani checkpost in Mohmand agency last night.
Casualties have been reported. However details are coming,"
a military spokesman said.


Security officials in the Mohmand tribal region near the Afghan border and
a military official in Peshawar said eight troops including a major were killed
in the pre-dawn incident.


They said the attack took place on the Sala checkpost in the Baizai district of
the rugged tribal terrain.

"The firing left seven soldiers and one major dead," a local intelligence official said.

Related Coverage

  • Another linked to al-Qa'ida killed Herald Sun, 6 Oct 2011
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  • Fifty Afghan militants die in raid Herald Sun, 23 Jul 2011
  • Pakistan kills 40 militants in tribal belt Herald Sun, 30 Jun 2011

A paramilitary and another security official confirmed the casualties.

In Kabul a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force
(ISAF) told AFP: "We are aware that an incident did take place. We are
still in the process of gathering information".


Washington considers the tribal belt a hotbed of Al-Qaeda, where Taliban and
other militants plot attacks on American troops -- including those in the US-led
international force based in Afghanistan.


Egypt protesters reject new PM
by:By Sarah Benhaida
From:AFP
November 26, 2011
4:10PM


TENS of thousands of demonstrators
have packed Cairo's Tahrir Square
after days of deadly clashes,
demanding the military rulers step down
and rejecting their choice of new Prime Minister.

Ahead of elections due to start on Monday despite the political turmoil,
Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) tasked Kamal al-Ganzuri, 78,
a premier under ousted president Hosni Mubarak, to head a new cabinet.


"Previous cabinets over the past 60 years were given many powers by the president
of the republic," Mr Ganzuri told reporters in his first public statement
after his appointment.


He had been granted "much more powers" than past premiers, said Mr Ganzuri,
who served as Mubarak's prime minister between 1996 and 1999.


In a later television address, Mr Ganzuri said he would formalise his government
"before the end of next week" and would allocate some portfolios to younger people.


Related Coverage

  • US power call for Egypt's military The Daily Telegraph, 6 hours ago
  • Sunni grand imam backs Tahrir protest The Australian, 7 hours ago
  • New PM for Egypt as activists gather The Australian, 16 hours ago
  • Egypt's military apologises for deaths Herald Sun, 1 day ago
  • Egypt's military to outlast transition The Australian, 1 day ago


But protesters in the square quickly rejected his appointment,
saying he was not the man to lead a transition to democracy.

"We do not want someone who has been selected by the military council.
We want a civilian who was with us in Tahrir during the revolution,
someone who has the confidence of the people," said one protester,
Omar Abdel Mansur.


Hundreds of demonstrators in the square branched off to the nearby cabinet offices
to block Ganzuri from entering the building, chanting "revolution" and
"Ganzuri is a former regime leftover".


"The youth of Tahrir had proposed (several) names. None of them were chosen.
We have the feeling nothing has changed" since a popular uprising ousted Mubarak
in February, said Mohammed Khattab, 30.


"Our mistake in the (January-February) revolution was
to think that we had only to topple Mubarak."


The protesters proposed a list of presidential candidates to form a
civilian leadership council, including former UN nuclear watchdog chief
Mohamed ElBaradei, a prominent dissident during Mubarak's rule.


They were bolstered earlier by an announcement that the grand imam of
Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's highest authority, had thrown his weight behind them.


"The
grand imam (Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayyeb) backs you and is praying for your
victory," senior aide Hassan Shafie told them during a visit to the
square, focus of huge protests
first against Mubarak and now the army.


Sheikh Mazhar Shahin, an imam who led tens of thousands of worshippers in prayer
at the square, said the protesters would stay there until their demands were met.


He called for a national salvation government with presidential powers.


ElBaradei, whose name has been widely touted to be part of a new salvation
government, also joined the protesters in the square on Friday.


But the Tahrir protest was countered by a rival demonstration in a square
about 3km away, where more than 10,000 people gathered to show support
for the military.


"Down with Tahrir" and "Yes to the military council", they chanted.

"I joined the protests against the former regime," said one of the protesters,
Mohammed Abdelhamid. "But the people in Tahrir today don't represent all Egyptians."


The rallies came three days before the first parliamentary elections
since Mubarak's ouster in February, which left the military in charge.


The military announced on Friday that voting would take place over two days,
instead of one, in each of the election's three rounds.


Washington, a close ally of Egypt, called for a quick transfer to civilian rule.


"The United States strongly believes that the new Egyptian government must
be empowered with real authority immediately," White House press secretary
Jay Carney said in a statement.


UN leader Ban Ki-moon renewed calls for the military rulers to ensure
a "peaceful transition"after talks by telephone with Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi,
the head of Egypt's military council.


"The secretary-general remains deeply concerned by the violence in Egypt
over the last few days," Ban's spokesman Martin Nesirky said in New York.


"He deplores the loss of life and the high number of injured.

"He reiterates his call for the transitional authorities to guarantee the
protection of human rights and civil liberties for all Egyptians."


On Tuesday, the SCAF accepted the resignation of the caretaker cabinet
headed by the once-popular Essam Sharaf, whose fall from grace was due
to his perceived weakness in the face of the army.


The violence, in which at least 41 protesters have been killed - 36 of them in Cairo -
and more than 3000 injured since Saturday, was cited as one of the factors that led to
the cabinet's resignation.


The SCAF has said repeatedly that it does not have political ambitions and plans
to hand power to an elected civilian authority after presidential elections set
to take place no later than the end of June 2012.


But it has also insisted it will not bow to pressure from the protesters in
Tahrir, saying they do not represent the whole country.


Opposition concedes defeat in NZ election
From:AFP
November 26, 20119:19PM


OPPOSITION leader Phil Goff conceded defeat
in the New Zealand election Saturday
admitting his centre-left Labour Party
could not form a government.


Projections with vote counting nearly completed indicated Prime
Minister John Key's centre-right National Party has the numbers to form a
new government with support from minor parties ACT and United Future.


"I rang John Key and I wished him well for the next three years because we
are all New Zealanders and want to see our country do well," he told a gathering
of Labour Party supporters.


"The people have made their decision and we treat their decision
with humility and respect.


Mr Goff took over the leadership of the party after former Labour Prime
Minister Helen Clark was routed by Key at the last election in 2008
after nine years in power.


Ms Clark stood down immediately after the last election but Mr Goff said
that while he had made a decision on his political future he was not prepared
to make it public at this stage.


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  • PM popularity big factor in NZ election Courier Mail, 1 day ago


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Paul Twomey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Paul Twomey 2007


Paul Twomey was the Chief Executive Officer and President of
the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
from March 2003 to June 2009. ICANN is the chief rule-making body
for internet policy worldwide.


Following a private-sector role as a consultant for McKinsey & Company,
Dr Twomey held executive positions within the Australian Government's
foreign trade organisation Austrade. His role there included working on
strategic development and European markets.

He was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the
National Office for the Information Economy (NOIE) in 1997,

a Commonwealth Government unit responsible for developing Internet policy.

His involvement with ICANN began at this time.
Subsequently he chaired the ICANN Government Advisory Committee,[1]
which served as the organisation's liaison with world governments.

Following his departure from NOIE, Dr Twomey created a consultancy
with Ira Magaziner
(Domestic Policy Adviser to former US President Bill Clinton)
called Argo P@cific.[2]

He continued to serve on the ICANN GAC until November 2002,
through an ongoing posting as external advisor to
Australia's Commonwealth Government.


Dr Twomey is a member of the British-North American Committee.

He also serves on the board of directors of the
Atlantic Council of the United States
and chairs the World Economic Forum's
Global Agenda Council on the Future of the Internet.


He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from University of Queensland,
a Master of Arts from Pennsylvania State University
and a PhD from Cambridge University.


On 27 March 2003 he was elected to his current position at ICANN.

On 2 March 2009, during the opening ceremony of
ICANN's 34th international meeting in Mexico City,
Dr Twomey mentioned that he would be leaving ICANN in June
while remaining as Senior President until the end of the year.
[3]

His name has recently been mentioned in relation to
the Commonwealth Government's proposed National Broadband Network.
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Post  true lilly Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:22 am

Belgian parties reach 2012 budget deal
by:By Roddy Thomson
From:
AAP
November 27, 2011 1:00AM

BELGIAN politicians reached a deal on the 2012 budget today,
ending a 19-month deadlock that had prevented the formation
of a stable government and led to a debt downgrade,
a negotiator said.

"There is an agreement," said a spokesman for the French-speaking socialists,
one of six parties in the linguistically-divided country
that had been struggling
to reconcile spending cuts with tax rises.


The accord, reached after 17 hours of negotiations, opens the way to
forming a new government
after 19 months in caretaker management.


Friday night's downgrade by ratings giant Standard and Poor's, which saw
Belgium drop by one notch to AA, piled pressure on the parties to
reconcile spending cuts with tax rises to avoid EU penalties next month.


Internal pressure, though, was at least matched by external strains among wider
eurozone leaders, two weeks from a crunch summit dogged by mounting doubts
over their ability to resolve the debt crisis.


Related Coverage

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  • Powers struggle to contain their rage Foundation, 3 Nov 2011
With a national debt worth almost one year's economic output, which
threatens to crush the country with the onset of recession, outgoing
Prime Minister Yves Leterme had made it clear he feared a rout

when markets reopen on Monday if a way forward was not agreed.


"It is blindingly obvious, we have to send a very clear signal... preferably
before the markets open,"
Mr Leterme had said in a live national
television interview before a shocked Belgian people.


The parties had to work out how to trim 11.3 billion euros ($15.58 billion)
off the deficit next year and about 20 billion euros ($27.58 billion) in all
by 2015.


The ultimatum came days after Mr Leterme's expected successor,
Elio Di Rupo, offered his resignation to Belgium's king,

frustrated at the failure of six-party talks to agree on a
deficit-cutting 2012 budget to avoid EU sanctions.


Albert II rejected the offer and sent Di Rupo back to work.


The ratings blow underlined a sharp escalation of the debt crisis
in a week in which even Germany struggled to raise finance.


Concern is growing that the euro currency, in the absence of
radical pan-eurozone action, is close to breaking point.


"The ability of authorities to respond to potential economic pressures from
inside and outside of Belgium... in our opinion is constrained by the
repeated failure of attempts to form a new government," the S&P
statement said.


After Greek, Portuguese and Irish bailouts, and
with Italy, Spain and France now under pressure,
it was more bad news for leaders struggling
in the absence of a European Central Bank
decision to mount a gigantic financial rescue.


The European Commission has repeatedly urged Belgium
to bring its public deficit below 3.0 per cent of GDP by 2012 -
or face a fine of about half a billion euros.


Finance Minister Didier Reynders blamed the downgrade on a
"global loss of confidence" in eurozone public finances,
while insisting that Belgium's creditworthiness remained
"one of the strongest in Europe".


Analysts said the news had wider significance.

"Belgium is the symbolic buffer
between the eurozone periphery and its core,
so this is a sign that the crisis -
slowly, but surely -

is striking at the heart of Europe,"

Sony Kapoor, head of the Re-Define think tank, told AFP.
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Post  MoMo Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:23 am

el kabong wrote:Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


lillywilly...... wave

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

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Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf
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Post  true lilly Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:25 am

TWITTERING IDIOTS!!!
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'China down'
Jon Huntsman said to "take China down"

Jon Huntsman : Take China down.

Huntsman, former US Ambassador to China,
made following comments in candidate debate :

......


So what should we be doing?
We should be reaching out to OUR ALLIES and
CONSTITUENCIES WITHIN CHINA.

They're called the young people.
They're called the internet generation.
There are 500 million internet users in China.
And 80 million bloggers.
And they are bringing about change,
the likes of which is gonna TAKE CHINA DOWN.
While we have an opportunity
to go up and win back
our economic manufacturing muscles.
Rolling Eyes
Huntsman, China
_____________________________________________

Paul Twomey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Paul Twomey 2007


Paul Twomey
was the Chief Executive Officer and President of the
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN) from March 2003 to June 2009.
ICANN is the chief rule-making body
for internet policy worldwide.


Following a private-sector role as
a consultant for McKinsey & Company,
Dr Twomey held executive positions
within the Australian Government's
foreign trade organisation Austrade.

His role there included working on
strategic development and European markets.


He was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the
National Office for the Information Economy
(NOIE) in 1997,

a Commonwealth Government unit
responsible for developing Internet policy.


His involvement with ICANN began at this time.
Subsequently he chaired the ICANN
Government Advisory Committee,[1]
which served as the organisation's
liaison with world governments.


Following his departure from NOIE,
Dr Twomey created a consultancy
with Ira Magaziner
(Domestic Policy Adviser
to former US President Bill Clinton)
called Argo P@cific.[2]


He continued to serve on the ICANN GAC until November 2002,
through an ongoing posting as external advisor to
Australia's Commonwealth Government.


Dr Twomey is a member of the
British-North American Committee.


He also serves on the board of directors of the
Atlantic Council of the United States
and chairs the World Economic Forum's
Global Agenda Council on the Future of the Internet.


He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from University of Queensland,
a Master of Arts from Pennsylvania State University
and a PhD from Cambridge University.


On 27 March 2003 he was elected to his current position at ICANN.

On 2 March 2009, during the opening ceremony of
ICANN's 34th international meeting in Mexico City,
Dr Twomey mentioned that he would be leaving ICANN in June
while remaining as Senior President until the end of the year.
[3]

His name has recently been mentioned in relation to
the Commonwealth Government's proposed
National Broadband Network.
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Post  MoMo Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:40 am

Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Australian-desert-map

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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave

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http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
noway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

thinking hmm noway

Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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H boobies

Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 1104-3 flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
noway

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Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Twenty police injured in nuke protest
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AP
GERMAN police say
20 policemen were injured
during clashes with protesters
ahead of the arrival of
a shipment of nuclear waste.

true lilly wrote:Nuclear waste train heads into Germany
From:AFP
November 25, 2011 9:45PM
Last Updated: November 26, 2011

THE last train carrying reprocessed nuclear waste back from France
to Germany crossed the border today after being delayed by
demonstrations and steamed towards more trouble.

The train, carrying 11 wagonloads of vitrified radioactive material,
left a siding in the station of Remilly, just outside the town of Metz
and around 30km from the German border, at 7pm (AEDT).


Several hundred French riot police had protected the train overnight, and
around 60 German officers and a French "RAID" team - a SWAT-style
special weapons squad - were on board as it resumed its journey.


The train had left a yard operated by the French nuclear giant Areva in
Valognes, in Normandy, on Wednesday, due to travel more than 1100km
across France and through Germany to the waste dump in Gorleben.


But violent anti-nuclear protests delayed its journey, and authorities
halted it overnight while trying to keep demonstrators guessing about
its eventual route across the border and back into Germany.


Related Coverage

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  • Misled into a cold and dark future The Daily Telegraph, 15 Jul 2011

Today, it finally crossed the frontier in the border town of Forbach, just south of Saarbrucken, and entered Germany.

Last November a similar controversial shipment took 91 hours to arrive at
its final destination - a day longer than planned - and it was dogged
the length of the route by French and then German protesters.


Around 50,000 activists turned out in Germany to try to disrupt the train
during that transfer, and protest organisers expect 20,000 to demonstrate
against the convoy as it nears the central town of Gorlebenlater on Friday.


Some 19,000 German officers have been deployed, and tear gas and water canon
were fired when clashes erupted overnight when a few hundred protesters tried
to block the line around 20km outside Gorleben.


Spooked by Japan's Fukushima disaster, Germany has decided to phase out its
use
of nuclear power, and thus bring to an end the controversial practice
of sending radioactive waste overland to France for reprocessing.


Anti-nuclear activists want France to follow suit and shut its reactors, an idea
firmly dismissed by President Nicolas Sarkozy, whose government believes
French industry is reliant on cheap nuclear-generated electricity.


There has long been widespread public opposition in Germany to nuclear power,
which environmentalists believe presents an unacceptable radioactive threat
to public health and the environment.


In March, the Japanese nuclear plant at Fukushima Daiichi was hit by an earthquake
and a tsunami, triggering a meltdown and massive radiation leak - and increasing
worldwide concerns over nuclear power.


Chancellor Angela Merkel's government agreed to halt German reactors by 2022,
forcing energy suppliers to close plants and levying a tax on fuel.


In the meantime, Germany will no longer send nuclear waste for
reprocessing in France, but will instead stockpile it until a way is
found to make it safe.


France produces 75 per cent of its electricity needs in nuclear plants - a
higher proportion than any other country - and its electricity bills are around
25 per cent cheaper than in its neighbours, a boon to industry.


German protesters are angry that Merkel's announced nuclear phase-out will
take another decade, and that there is still no permanent storage site for the waste generated in the country's reactors.
German mother
gives birth to gigantic baby,
names him 'Jihad'

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Mother Elfi holds her son Jihad at Charit Campus hospital in Berlin.
Picture: AP Sunday Herald Sun


AN obese German mother gave birth to a gigantic baby boy
without the help of a C-section, and named him
"Jihad."
The newborn -- the mother's 14th -- weighed in at 5.9kg
__________________________________________________________________
25 November 2011
Last updated at 21:08 GMT

Belgium credit rating downgraded by S&P
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S&P says it considers Belgian government debt
to be at "high levels"


Belgium has had its credit rating downgraded by ratings agency Standard & Poor's.

The country's downgrade could make it more expensive for Belgium to borrow in future.

Belgium's rating was cut by one notch, to AA from AA+, with S&P expressing concerns about funding and market pressures.

The move comes as the eurozone crisis threatens to keep growing, and with continued concerns over Italian debt.

"We think the Belgian government's capacity to prevent an
increase in general government debt, which we consider to be already at
high levels, is being constrained by rapid private sector deleveraging
both in Belgium and among many of Belgium's key trading partners,"
S&P said in a statement.


It also said the outlook was "negative",
meaning Belgium's rating could possibly be cut further in future.


"We need a reply that is clear and credible
if we are to avoid the worst,"

Belgium's caretaker prime minister, Yves Leterme,
told
Belgian television after S&P's announcement.

_____________________________________________________________

Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant,
Prince of Belgium

(French: Philippe Léopold Louis Marie,
Dutch: Filip(s) Leopold Lodewijk Maria;
born 15 April 1960),
is the eldest son and heir apparent of
Albert II, King of the Belgians and Queen Paola.


House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

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The Duke of Brabant
at World Economic Forum in 2010

His godparents were his paternal grandfather,
King Leopold III of the Belgians,
and his maternal grandmother
Donna Luisa, Princess Ruffo di Calabria.

Spouse
Countess Mathilde d'Udekem d'Acoz
daughter of a Walloon Belgian noble family
and female line descendant of Polish noble families

such as the Princes Sapieha,
on 4 December 1999 in Brussels,
civilly at the Brussels Town Hall and
religiously at the Cathedral of Saint Michel in Brussels.


They have four children:

  • Princess Elisabeth Thérèse Marie Hélène, born 25 October 2001
  • Prince Gabriel Baudouin Charles Marie, born 20 August 2003
  • Prince Emmanuel Léopold Guillaume François Marie, born 4 October 2005
  • Princess Eléonore Fabiola Victoria Anne Marie, born 16 April 2008

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Prince Philippe was educated at the Belgian Royal Military School.
From 1978 to 1981 he continued his education
at Oxford University's Trinity College.
He attended Graduate School at Stanford University, California,
where he graduated in 1985 with an MA degree in Political Science.
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Greater Coat of Arms of Belgium

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Personal Standard of King Albert II.
Albert II
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King of the Belgians
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King Albert II and Queen Paola with
US President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush
at the Royal Palace in Brussels in 2005.

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King Albert II with Queen Paola,
and other royals and Heads of state,
at the funeral of Pope John Paul II.

________________________________________________________

Yves Leterme
Prime Minister of Belgium

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Incumbent
Assumed office
25 November 2009
Monarch: Albert II

Private life and hobbies
Yves Leterme is known to be very fond of goats.

He breeds goats in his private time
in the small farm where he lives.

In November 2010 the Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad
had
some more news about Yves' favorite animals:
two of his favorite goats, named Trudy and Vicky,
were to appear in a play by the local theatre society of Ypres.
The play is called 'Island of the goats'.
In an interview Yves called goats "The poor man's cow."
_________________________________________________________________________

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Ray:
Ken, I grew up in Dublin. I love Dublin.
If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me
but I didn't, so it doesn't.

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Ray:
Don't know any Belgium jokes,
and if I did I think I'd have the good
sense not to... hang on.

Is Belgium with all those child abuse murders
lately?
I do know a Belgium joke.

What's Belgium famous for?
Chocolates and child abuse,
and they only invented the chocolates
to get to the kids.

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Harry:
Not only have you refused to kill the boy,
you even stopped the boy from
killing himself,
which would've solved my problem,
which would've
solved your problem,
which sounds like it would've solved the boy's problem.
Ken:
It wouldn't have solved his problem.
Harry:
Ken, if I had killed a little kid, accidentally or otherwise,
I wouldn't have thought twice.
I'd killed myself on the fucking spot.
On the fucking spot.
I would've stuck the gun in me mouth.
On the fucking spot!

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Ray:
Maybe that's what hell is,
the entire rest of eternity spent in fucking Bruges.

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Belgian parties reach 2012 budget deal
by:By Roddy Thomson
From:
AAP
November 27, 2011 1:00AM

BELGIAN politicians reached a deal on the 2012 budget today,
ending a 19-month deadlock that had prevented the formation
of a stable government and led to a debt downgrade,
a negotiator said.

"There is an agreement," said a spokesman for the French-speaking socialists,
one of six parties in the linguistically-divided country
that had been struggling
to reconcile spending cuts with tax rises.


The accord, reached after 17 hours of negotiations, opens the way to
forming a new government
after 19 months in caretaker management.


Friday night's downgrade by ratings giant Standard and Poor's, which saw
Belgium drop by one notch to AA, piled pressure on the parties to
reconcile spending cuts with tax rises to avoid EU penalties next month.


Internal pressure, though, was at least matched by external strains among wider
eurozone leaders, two weeks from a crunch summit dogged by mounting doubts
over their ability to resolve the debt crisis.


Related Coverage

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  • Belgium dragged into crisis The Australian, 1 hour ago
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  • Help us help you, Greece told Herald Sun, 7 Nov 2011
  • Powers struggle to contain their rage Foundation, 3 Nov 2011
With a national debt worth almost one year's economic output, which
threatens to crush the country with the onset of recession, outgoing
Prime Minister Yves Leterme had made it clear he feared a rout

when markets reopen on Monday if a way forward was not agreed.


"It is blindingly obvious, we have to send a very clear signal... preferably
before the markets open,"
Mr Leterme had said in a live national
television interview before a shocked Belgian people.


The parties had to work out how to trim 11.3 billion euros ($15.58 billion)
off the deficit next year and about 20 billion euros ($27.58 billion) in all
by 2015.


The ultimatum came days after Mr Leterme's expected successor,
Elio Di Rupo, offered his resignation to Belgium's king,

frustrated at the failure of six-party talks to agree on a
deficit-cutting 2012 budget to avoid EU sanctions.


Albert II rejected the offer and sent Di Rupo back to work.


The ratings blow underlined a sharp escalation of the debt crisis
in a week in which even Germany struggled to raise finance.


Concern is growing that the euro currency, in the absence of
radical pan-eurozone action, is close to breaking point.


"The ability of authorities to respond to potential economic pressures from
inside and outside of Belgium... in our opinion is constrained by the
repeated failure of attempts to form a new government," the S&P
statement said.


After Greek, Portuguese and Irish bailouts, and
with Italy, Spain and France now under pressure,
it was more bad news for leaders struggling
in the absence of a European Central Bank
decision to mount a gigantic financial rescue.


The European Commission has repeatedly urged Belgium
to bring its public deficit below 3.0 per cent of GDP by 2012 -
or face a fine of about half a billion euros.


Finance Minister Didier Reynders blamed the downgrade on a
"global loss of confidence" in eurozone public finances,
while insisting that Belgium's creditworthiness remained
"one of the strongest in Europe".


Analysts said the news had wider significance.

"Belgium is the symbolic buffer
between the eurozone periphery and its core,
so this is a sign that the crisis -
slowly, but surely -

is striking at the heart of Europe,"

Sony Kapoor, head of the Re-Define think tank, told AFP.
___________________________________________________

Tourist killed, 3 kidnapped in Mali
by:By Baba Ahmed in Bamako
From:
AP
November 26, 2011
6:58AM

GUNMEN burst into a restaurant
in Mali's most famous city of Timbuktu overnight,
grabbed four tourists dining there and executed one
when he refused to climb into their truck,
said a witness and an official who inspected the body.


The armed men entered the Amanar restaurant around 2.30pm on Friday
local time and pointed their guns at four tourists dining inside, said
Moussa Boubacar, a client at the restaurant.

The four followed the gunmen outside, but when the gunmen tried to
make them enter a vehicle, one of the tourists refused, Boubacar said.

The kidnappers opened fire, killing him on the spot, Boubacar said.

Their nationalities could not immediately be confirmed,
but witnesses describe them as European.

Dramane Diallo, the regional director of Timbuktu's civil protection division,
said that he rushed to the scene and found the corpse of an elderly white man,
who locals said was the tourist that had refused to enter the car.

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  • African al-Qaeda camp destroyed Herald Sun, 25 Jun 2011
Until a few years ago, Timbuktu was one of the most visited
destinations in Africa, but it is now one of the many former tourist
hotspots in Mali that have been deemed too dangerous to visit by foreign
embassies because of kidnappings by the local chapter of al-Qaeda.


The incident overnight comes after two French citizens were grabbed
in the middle of the night
from their hotel
in the Malian town of Hombori
on Thursday.


Neither kidnapping has yet been claimed by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,
or AQIM, whose members
have kidnapped and ransomed over 50 Europeans and
Canadians since 2003.


If Friday's kidnapping is by AQIM, it will mark the first time they have taken
a hostage inside of Timbuktu's city limits. Thursday's kidnapping would be
another first - the first time they have grabbed their victim south of the Niger River.

The group's footprint has grown dramatically since 2006, when the Algerian-led cell
first joined al-Qaeda. Security experts estimate the group has been able to raise around $US130 million ($134.04 million) from ransom payments alone.
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The extent of the Mali Empire's peak

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"One people, one goal, one faith"

An estimated 90% of Malians are Muslim
(mostly Sunni and Sufi),

approximately 5% are Christian
(about two-thirds Roman Catholic and one-third Protestant)
and the remaining 5% adhere to
indigenous or traditional animist beliefs.

Atheism and agnosticism are believed to be rare among Malians,
most of whom practice their religion on a daily basis.


TWITTERING IDIOTS!!!
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'China down'
Jon Huntsman said to "take China down"

Jon Huntsman : Take China down.

Huntsman, former US Ambassador to China,
made following comments in candidate debate :

......

So what should we be doing?
We should be reaching out to OUR ALLIES and
CONSTITUENCIES WITHIN CHINA.

They're called the young people.
They're called the internet generation.
There are 500 million internet users in China.
And 80 million bloggers.
And they are bringing about change,
the likes of which is gonna TAKE CHINA DOWN.
While we have an opportunity
to go up and win back
our economic manufacturing muscles.
Rolling Eyes
Huntsman, China
____________________________________________

Paul Twomey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Paul Twomey 2007


Paul Twomey
was the Chief Executive Officer and President of the
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN) from March 2003 to June 2009.
ICANN is the chief rule-making body
for internet policy worldwide.


Following a private-sector role as
a consultant for McKinsey & Company,
Dr Twomey held executive positions
within the Australian Government's
foreign trade organisation Austrade.

His role there included working on
strategic development and European markets.


He was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the
National Office for the Information Economy
(NOIE) in 1997,

a Commonwealth Government unit
responsible for developing Internet policy.


His involvement with ICANN began at this time.
Subsequently he chaired the ICANN
Government Advisory Committee,[1]
which served as the organisation's
liaison with world governments.


Following his departure from NOIE,
Dr Twomey created a consultancy
with Ira Magaziner
(Domestic Policy Adviser
to former US President Bill Clinton)
called Argo P@cific.[2]


He continued to serve on the ICANN GAC until November 2002,
through an ongoing posting as external advisor to
Australia's Commonwealth Government.


Dr Twomey is a member of the
British-North American Committee.


He also serves on the board of directors of the
Atlantic Council of the United States
and chairs the World Economic Forum's
Global Agenda Council on the Future of the Internet.


He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from University of Queensland,
a Master of Arts from Pennsylvania State University
and a PhD from Cambridge University.


On 27 March 2003 he was elected to his current position at ICANN.

On 2 March 2009, during the opening ceremony of
ICANN's 34th international meeting in Mexico City,
Dr Twomey mentioned that he would be leaving ICANN in June
while remaining as Senior President until the end of the year.
[3]

His name has recently been mentioned in relation to
the Commonwealth Government's proposed
National Broadband Network.

true lilly wrote:'Not a matter of if, but when we find you'

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HUNDREDS of tax dodgers caught and convicted
as the ATO warns:
"if you do the crime, you will face the consequences".
Vatican checked in laundering probe
From:AFP
November 27, 2011
3:19AM
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 353834-vatican-cityVatican probe:
The Vatican has been assessed to determine if it has tightened its regulations
to prevent money laundering.

Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied


COUNCIL of Europe inspectors have visited the Vatican to monitor its plans to tighten money laundering regulations.

The group from the Moneyval committee "met with representatives of
Vatican authorities dealing with the issue of prevention and fight
against money laundering and terrorist financing," a statement from the
Vatican said.


The group, composed of legal, financial and law enforcement experts
from five countries, arrived on Monday and left overnight, the statement said.


They are expected to present a report with their findings at a plenary session
of Moneyval "presumably in the middle of 2012," the Vatican said.


Pope Benedict XVI last December created a new financial authority
following an embarrassing investigation of Vatican bank officials by Italy.


The Vatican also approved a law from April
imposing sentences of up to
12 years in prison for money laundering
and 15 years for terrorist financing.


Related Coverage

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  • Irish PM blasts Vatican over child abuse The Australian, 21 Jul 2011
In September last year,
Italian authorities launched an investigation into
and seized assets linked to
the Institute for Religious Works (IOR) -
the official name of the Vatican bank -
for alleged violation of money-laundering
rules.


The Vatican has also been excluded from an international "white list"
of countries compliant with strict financial controls.

The new financial authority is aimed at
bringing the Holy See in line with new global standards.


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true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Interesting, that
The GLOBAL CONSPIRACY Industry
,
is always telling people to "WAKE UP"...

dixie dean wrote: #32101
There is a guy by the name of Ben who drinks
at the Village Shop and Spies reminds me of
Espionage...
...
By the way, I am only making links to people
the same as Tintin makes links using people.
Sleeper agent:
A sleeper agent is a person who is
recruited
to an intelligence service
to wake up

and perform a specific set of tasks or functions
while living under cover in an area of interest.

This type of agent
is not the same as a deep cover operative

who is continually in contact with
their case officer in order to file intelligence reports.
A sleeper agent
will not be in contact with anyone
until activated.


Interesting because
the more 'they' scream at the world to wake up,
the more those, starting to SEE,
God's Saving Revelations,

are beaten, cowed and BOUGHT into SELLING
DENIAL of The Light of Truth,
so feared and hated by The Willingly Evil.


Interesting to, that GOD WARNED US to
NOT to try to save ourselves by running
to Follow Popular Mass Movements...
but, that MOST STILL WOULD, and,
DIE REGRETTING IT!


...and where did I open at, on praying
about whether to send this...oh, and do
read the full meanings of each word
at the link provided.


Psalms 127:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=127&v=1&t=KJV&sstr=1
A Song of the Ascents. Of Solomon.
1
Unless Jehovah himself builds the house,
It is to no avail that its builders have worked hard on it.
Unless Jehovah himself guards the city,
It is to no avail that the guard has kept awake.

2
To no avail it is for YOU men that YOU are rising up early,
That YOU are sitting down late,
That YOU are eating food with pains.
Just like this he gives sleep even to his beloved one.

3
Look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah;
The fruitage of the belly is a reward.

4
Like arrows in the hand of a mighty man,
So are the sons of youth.

5
Happy is the able-bodied man that has filled his quiver with them.
They will not be ashamed,
For they will speak with enemies in the gate.


Psalms 126:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=126&v=1&t=KJV
true lilly wrote:"Long and Uncomfortable"=BRAINWASHING as used by CULT LEADERS.
http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/post24742.html#p24742

Ickeism=
Culture jamming

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming
Guerrilla marketing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing
Spaßguerilla
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spa%C3%9Fguerilla
...and when ISN'T 'satire' satirical?
When it's all the above HIDING behind the filthy lie,
that those who DO GET WHAT 'THEY' ARE DOING,
"don't get satire".
Front Deutscher Äpfel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Deutscher_%C3%84pfel
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Apple Front activists in typical uniform with satirized right extremist symbols and bearing
(The FRONT is 'satire' WHILE THEY FISH FOR THOSE WHO
DO SUPPORT WHAT THEY 'satirize')


Yep, anyone believing that 'alternative media' isn't
what's pushing The Beastly Agenda,
is either a deluded fool, or Knowingly, Willingly, Beastly.

Oh, and how many of The Most Vulnerable and Powerless,
is that, DEAD AROUND THE WORLD, now, DUE TO BEING
SUCKED INTO BLOODY, NATION DESTROYING "revolutions",
VIA The Twittering TWITS of WORLD WIDE (Global) WEB of
LIES?
le sabrage wrote:DESPERATELY LYING:
true lilly wrote:Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Crazy+woman
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is that the sanest of my younger, old (and current), ungrateful,
backstabbing 'associates', today?
And is this the most 'youthful'?
Because you almost laugh as hard as those with an eye and brain did,
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when she "got" a Licence to "Judge" Rolling Eyes ...IMHEO, justified laughter... Razz
Funny to, because she was embarrassed of her wog hubby's surname...
and advertised Only As "Sue & Steve" because of all the people who
rang the club asking for a puppy bred by "Sioux & Steve" Wink ...
but then her hubby's,

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"REBEL"
bro, got himself an O.A.M., and suddenly,
she was no longer embarrassed by her wog surname...
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=ES1zX2K0vkTY4sMl9cZNBOrd8Lue4%2bvcAZsnH8IF%2fbE%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2f3.bp.blogspot.com%2f-lOTFSdQLzn0%2fTrSRJ-Atr-I%2fAAAAAAAAAKc%2fz8OMT8Yme5A%2fs320%2fBOB%2b1%2b-%2bJAN%2b27%25252C%2b2007.
...but kept the Cameron and hyphen Rolling Eyes

...interesting though, that when reading other's opinions:
http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/au-motorcycle/6756/MRAA-ie-MRAV-bashing
of Bro-in-law, "Uncle DamienO.A.M.":
http://www.bikenut.com.au/uncledamien.php
http://damiencodognottooam.blogspot.com/
Thailand Motorbike Tours and Motorcycle Adventure Tours. - experience 16 unforgettable days on a fully guided motorcycling adventure through fascinating Northern Thailand.

it's like reading the experiences folk have with
DICTATORIAL David Icke and his NET HACKING,
PRIVATE Message Reading, INDEPENDENT OPINION BANNING,
FALSE 'consensus' Pushing, Forum Moderators
Suspect ...and,
what a stupidly suicidal Global Religion it is,
that "they" keep shoving down the world's throat,
by trying to silence all warning voices:


Oh, and lets NOT forget the CONnections here:
http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=10733
MRS. Trish STEBBINGS
Secretary AND PUBLICITY OFFICER RRCV

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Jeremiah - Chapter 50

Declare 5046 ye among the nations 1471,
and publish 8085 , and set up 5375 a standard 5251;
publish 8085 , [and] conceal 3582 not:
say 559 ...
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=50&v=1&t=KJV#1

2 Samuel - Chapter 7, 8 & 9
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Sa&c=7&v=1&t=KJV#1
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Sa&c=8&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Sa&c=9&v=1&t=KJV#

And David 1732 said 559 ,
Is there yet 3426 any that is left 3498 of the house 1004 of Saul 7586,
that I may shew 6213 him kindness 2617 for Jonathan's 3083 sake?

Jonathan 3083 hath yet a son 1121,
[which is] lame 5223 on [his] feet 7272.

So Mephibosheth 4648 dwelt 3427 in Jerusalem 3389:
for he did eat 398 continually 8548 at the king's 4428 table 7979;
and was lame 6455 on both 8147 his feet 7272.

NOTE:
lame 5223
lame 6455 on both 8147
DIFFERENT/ADDITIONAL numbers=ROOT (DESCRIPTIVE) MEANINGS.
Wink Smile
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Post  mugglez Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:47 pm

el kabong wrote:Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland


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thumbs up

This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave

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http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
noway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

thinking hmm noway

Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 1104-3 flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
noway

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Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Prepare for riots in euro collapse,
Foreign Office warns


British embassies in the eurozone have been told to draw up plans to help
British expats through the collapse of the single currency, amid new fears
for Italy and Spain.

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The Treasury confirmed earlier this month that contingency planning for a collapse is now under way Photo: BLOOMBERG

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By James Kirkup, Deputy Political Editor
10:00PM GMT 25 Nov 2011

As the Italian government struggled to borrow and Spain considered seeking an
international bail-out, British ministers privately warned that the break-up
of the euro, once almost unthinkable, is now increasingly plausible.

Diplomats are preparing to help Britons abroad through a banking collapse and
even riots arising from the debt crisis.

The Treasury confirmed earlier this month that contingency planning for a
collapse is now under way.

A senior minister has now revealed the extent of the Government’s concern,
saying that Britain is now planning on the basis that a euro collapse is now
just a matter of time.

“It’s in our interests that they keep playing for time because that gives us
more time to prepare,” the minister told the Daily Telegraph.

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Recent Foreign and Commonwealth Office instructions to embassies and
consulates request contingency planning for extreme scenarios including
rioting and social unrest.


Greece has seen several outbreaks of civil disorder as its government
struggles with its huge debts. British officials think similar scenes cannot
be ruled out in other nations if the euro collapses.

Diplomats have also been told to prepare to help tens of thousands of British
citizens in eurozone countries with the consequences of a financial collapse
that would leave them unable to access bank accounts or even withdraw cash.

Fuelling the fears of financial markets for the euro, reports in Madrid
yesterday suggested that the new Popular Party government could seek a
bail-out from either the European Union rescue fund or the International
Monetary Fund.

There are also growing fears for Italy, whose new government was forced to pay
record interest rates on new bonds issued yesterday.

The yield on new six-month loans was 6.5 per cent, nearly double last month’s
rate. And the yield on outstanding two-year loans was 7.8 per cent, well
above the level considered unsustainable.

Italy’s new government will have to sell more than EURO 30 billion of new
bonds by the end of January to refinance its debts. Analysts say there is no
guarantee that investors will buy all of those bonds, which could force
Italy to default.

The Italian government yesterday said that in talks with German Chancellor
Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Prime Minister Mario
Monti had agreed that an Italian collapse “would inevitably be the end of
the euro.”

The EU treaties that created the euro and set its membership rules contain no
provision for members to leave, meaning any break-up would be disorderly and
potentially chaotic.

If eurozone governments defaulted on their debts, the European banks that hold
many of their bonds would risk collapse.

Some analysts say the shock waves of such an event would risk the collapse of
the entire financial system, leaving banks unable to return money to retail
depositors and destroying companies dependent on bank credit.

The Financial Services Authority this week issued a public warning to British
banks to bolster their contingency plans for the break-up of the single
currency.

Some economists believe that at worst, the outright collapse of the euro could
reduce GDP in its member-states by up to half and trigger mass unemployment.

Analysts at UBS, an investment bank earlier this year warned that the most
extreme consequences of a break-up include risks to basic property rights
and the threat of civil disorder.

“When the unemployment consequences are factored in, it is virtually
impossible to consider a break-up scenario without some serious social
consequences
,”
UBS said.
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Well, considering it's pretty hard these days
to avoid noticing most of the world geologically,
morally, politically and financially crumbling,
I'd say it's a good time to consider some of
God's Ancient Promises, Revealed and Kept,
and even more deeply consider The Eternal Cost
of continuing to Deny God's Holy Spirit of Truth.

GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...

and 'YOU', KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!


Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...

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SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON
.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!
...?


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...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...

Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia


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Note: Israel is shown in blue.

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Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...


The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.

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These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.

It is remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of
www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH,
STABLE LAND...and SEE,
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so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...

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YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...


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...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...

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It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
Rolling Eyes

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THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE

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Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.


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LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA

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National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
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Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Map-rm1898

A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898

LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...

https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E

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Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.

It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.

It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made,
according the US space agency NASA .

For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.

NASA noted that Australia
was
the flattest continent in the world.

"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position
near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic
or other geologic forces
of the type
that raise the topography of other continents.

"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,

the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world,
covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.


...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...
RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...
and RE-PLANT
...and... Very Happy Wink

COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...

...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...


DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...

Revelation 22:1-21

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top

1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


2
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.


3
And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:


4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.


6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.


7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.


8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.


9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant,
and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.


11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.


12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.


13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.


14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.


17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...

to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:

the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...

YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.


See, "THEY" DEMAND
THE WORLD BELIEVE
(AGAINST ALL REAL WORLD EVIDENCE),
that,
WHEN GOD SAID:
FROM THE BEGINNING,
ALL THE WORLD,
ALL THE EARTH,
ALL PEOPLES,
GOD DID "not" MEAN IT,
so that the world will
DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH
and JOIN "THEM" in PERMANENT DEATH.


Oh and while I think of it:
why, "The 99% Campaign"...
because GOD SAID He'd Preserve Alive,
90-95%, to re-plant, re-build and help
HEAL ALL THE WORLD
,
BUT "THEY" DON'T WANT ANY HEALING
and, as "cori/tintin" PROUDLY BOAST,
"THEY" WANT 99.9% of ALL HUMANS DEAD.


SEE "THEY" WORSHIP "THEIR" NUMBers Game.
The Majority NUMBers "win".
"winning" TO "THEM" IS DYING TO KILL.

And yes, "THEY" ARE THOSE WHO ATTACK ME,
FOR SHOWING that GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES,
that includes, not only preserving enough
humans
to heal the world, but also RESURRECTING Those
who died the first death, but repented of having
denied The Holy Spirit of Truth.


P.S. SOD, can you please include
the USUALLY COMMON Forum Feature
that INCLUDES THE LINK TO QUOTED POSTS?


Yeah I know, it would defeat the purpose of
outnumbering this one real individuals posts
with "tintin's" Multiple I.D. OFF TOPIC,
SPAM-BOT CRAP that FLOODS OUT what "THEY"
ARE TERRIFIED OTHERS MAY READ and CONSIDER,
...that's why I ask, and DON'T expect.
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Post  sharky Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:56 am

le sabrage wrote:
el kabong wrote:Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland


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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave

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http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

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Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 1104-3 flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
noway

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Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Post  sharky Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:56 am

el kabong wrote:Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


lillywilly...... wave

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Map_of_australia

Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf
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el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote:Did you know you didn't even get close to countering
what God described from the beginning, and I have
shown to be so, for years...rhetorical...I know you do,
but hey...you just have to keep 'peddling'...or you fall
DOWN...before you are CUT down.



IN FACT,
SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN THAT TERRITORY
WHERE YOU CAN FIT, 5 TO 10%
OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION!



I CAN SHOW YOU ONE WHERE YOU CAN,
and UNlike ALL other land masses, NOT
littered with Earthquakes and Volcanoes!
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The sad thing is, that thinking folk know you are not arguing with me
(you fought and lost that war years ago), but are desperately trying to
stop others seeing the reality of the whole real world, from the beginning,
as God described it, lest they also see that No Land Can SAVE anyone,
but God exists and HE DOES, Preserve and SAVE, as He Promised.[/color]


gibberish.....gibberish..........gibberish..etcetera.... etcetera.... etcetera.... etcetera.... etcetera.... etcetera....

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lmao

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FIRST: Where was the first alphabet formed, the means of communication that YHWH used to communicate to humankind? The Siani Desert. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_alphabet


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Sinai-desert--sinaj-3

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Sinai-desert-map

Proto-Sinaitic, also known as Proto-Canaanite, was the first consonantal alphabet. Even a quick and cursory glance at its inventory of signs makes this script's Egyptian origin very apparent.[citation needed] Originally it was thought that at round 1700 BCE, Sinai was conquered by Egypt, and the local West-Semitic population were influenced by Egyptian culture and adopted a small number of hieroglyphic signs (about 30) to write their own language. However, recent discoveries in Egypt itself have compounded this scenario. Inscriptions dating to 1900 BCE written in what appears to be Proto-Sinaitic were found in Upper Egypt, and nearby Egyptian texts speak of the presence of Semitic-speaking people living in Egypt
thumbs up ALL the worlds population-6/7,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo peeps would fit in a landmass the size of Rhode Island or Delaware....there are 1.5 million people per square mile in Mumbai. Regardless, all the worlds people don't have to be in one place. thumbs up I've refuted your 'theory/hypothesis.....1,000 times..........You calll YHWH and Yahshua/jesus liars.

You're an Antisemitic NeoNazi. you curse israel. 12 And YHWH said to Abram, “Go yourself outh of your land, from your relatives and from your father’s house, to a land which I show you. 2“And I shall make you a great nation, and bless you and make your name great, and you shall be a blessing! 3“And I shall bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you. And in you all the clans of the earth shall be blessed.” thumbs up

There is written History aqnd archaeological Artifacts that refute your nonsense. thumbs up

Zion is/in Israel. Yerushalayim/Jerusalem is the Capital
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JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD

http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm

that it is after all possible to conceive of a first century Jew credibly coming to believe that he was called to die for the sins of Israel, and perhaps even of the world. Also he admits it is possible to conceive of a first century Jew credibly coming to believe that he was called to do and be what, in scripture, only YHWH, Israel’s God, gets to do and to be.......................The Jews believed in a quite different “god.” This god, YHWH, “the One Who Is,” the Sovereign One, was not simply the objectification of forces and drives within the world, but was the maker of all that exists. Several biblical books, or parts thereof, are devoted to exploring the difference between YHWH and the pagan idols: Daniel, Isaiah 40-55, and a good many Psalms spring obviously to mind. The theme is summed up in the Jewish daily prayer: “YHWH our God, YHWH is one!”[10]

..............Since, the early Christians all regarded Jesus as the Messiah of Israel, the one in whom Israel’s destiny had been summed up............But it is not merely a NT dogma that Jesus brings the story of Israel to its climax, and so becomes the instrument of God’s long-promised salvation. Israel’s story is not a notion, floating two miles in the sky above the Palestine of Jesus’ day. Israel’s story was the real flesh-and-blood, wars-and-rumours-of-wars story of the Maccabees and the Herodians, of Judas the Galilean, Simon bar Giona, of the Jewish War, of Josephus, of a hundred kingdom movements and a hundred thousand crosses planted around Jerusalem. This was the story, the warts-and-all story, that Jesus of Nazareth brought to its god-ordained climax. If we want to know the truth of the salvation which he wrought, that is where we must look for it and not somewhere else. ...................I have argued elsewhere that a central feature of Jewish expectation, and kingdom expectation at that, in Jesus’ time was the hope that YHWH would return in person to Zion. Having abandoned Jerusalem at the time of the exile, his return was delayed, but he would come back at last. .......................And Jesus seems to have believed it about himself. The language was deeply coded, but the symbolic action was not. He was coming to Zion, doing what YHWH had promised to do. He explained his action with riddles all pointing in the same direction. Recognize this, and you start to see it all over the place, especially in parables and actions whose other layers have preoccupied us. Why, after all, does Jesus tell a story about a yearning father in order to account for his own behavior?[36] It is this that also accounts for his sovereign attitude to Torah, his speaking on behalf of Wisdom, and his announcement of forgiveness of sins.[37] By themselves none of these would be conclusive. Even if they are allowed to stand as words and actions of Jesus, they remain cryptic. But predicate them of the same young man who is then on his way to Jerusalem to confront the powers that be with the message and the action of the kingdom of God and who tells stories as he does which are best interpreted as stories of YHWH returning to Zion, then you have reached. I believe, the deep heart of Jesus’ own sense of vocation. He believed himself called to do and be what in the scriptures only Israel’s God did and was.

............................What are we therefore saying about the earthly Jesus? In Jesus himself, I suggest we see the biblical portrait of YHWH come to life: the loving God, rolling up his sleeves (Isa 52:10) to do in person the job that no one else could do, the creator God giving new life the God who works through his created world and supremely through his human creatures, the faithful God dwelling in the midst of his people, the stern and tender God relentlessly opposed to all that destroys or distorts the good creation, and especially human beings, but recklessly loving all those in need and distress. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd; he shall carry the lambs in his arms; and gently lead those that are with young” (Isa 40:11). It is the OT portrait of YHWH, but it fits Jesus like a glove.
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lillywilly, this is why I repeatedly ask you if you are able to conprehend the following data. Put a cork in your conspiralunacy and answer intelligently, if you can.

Do you comprehend the following?
it is Pro ALL Humankind, Pro ALL the earth.
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Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time." cheers

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.


Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

1: Monotheism

2:Universal Codified Law

3: An Aleph/Bet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather then Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather then the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less then thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancin Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen peeps TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Aleph/Bet-Alpha/Bet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hierglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualising Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Due to the Concept/Principle of Right Living, a unique type of leader arose amongst the Israelites: The Prophet.

Biblical Prophets; seemingly self-appointed, claiming to receive Testable Signals from Yahweh; witnessed and criticized Israeli behaviour;
confronting the peeps baser urges.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Prophets were usually not Royalty, heroes, warriors, they were commen men who railed against injustice and impiety. Constantly upbraiding/Chastizing/Rebuking Israelites; reminding them that Yahweh cared only that his people lived in Truth.

Prophets did not achieve their position by Birthright, appointment or election, they were Inspired and Just.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather then the people choosing their god.

From Rabbi Greenbergs book, 'For the Sake of Heaven & Earth.
Jews and Xns are redicovering 'The Image of Yah' in each other, after a coupla millenia of discord and animus.

This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10

The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.

Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Siani Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Book written in an Alphabet/Alephbet ........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemisphereical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential.the ground for Theoretical Science.....

An Alphabet=less then 30 abstract images.......enabled universal literacy and numerancy.

Egyptians/Sumerians, Ugarits only produced 2% Literacy, among the Royalty and Priesthoods.


As Yahshua Messiah said-"This is The Way'.
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el kabong wrote:Yoo Hoo!!!! lillywilly, you are a False Prophet. thumbs down

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 False-prophet

The Reason the Bible was written in an alphabet is so that aLL humans could become literate and know YHWHs/Gods Plan for us. We don't need no lying, thieving, deceitful preachers like you that want to obscure and obfusacate what is written.

You don't have any special insights, you're a liar. wave you can't even explain the Hebrew alephbet. wave
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http://biblicalstudies.info/top10/schoville.htm

Top Ten Archaeological Discoveries of the Twentieth Century Relating to the Biblical World
Keith N. Schoville
Professor Emeritus of Hebrew and Semitic Studies
University of Wisconsin-Madison


Ten major archeological discoveries of the past century that are significant for understanding the world of the Bible are identified. For each find, a narrative of its discovery and the crucial information it unlocks is relayed, plus its connection to key biblical events or references. These ten discoveries illustrate the point that new facts about the Bible, its world and personalities, come through diligence in archeological research.

Any list of the major archaeological discoveries of the last century of significance for understanding the world of the Bible must of necessity be arbitrary and based to a considerable degree on the selector's judgment; that is true of this list. Nevertheless, identifying these ten should arouse the interest of readers to the continuing work of archaeologists in the ancient Near East, including at least the eastern Mediterranean, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and Iran. We should be reminded, too, that the only new facts about the Bible and the world in which the events occurred, the personalities lived, and it was written come from archaeological research. The search for the past and the resultant discoveries are always subject to chance finds, so at any point in time it is possible for evidence to surface that brings a biblical figure or event out of the dust of the past and into the present through the recovery of a new text, inscription, or relic of antiquity.

1 THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS [1]

Cave 4 at Qumran and One of the Dead Sea Scroll Jars on Display at the Amman Archaeological Museum in Jordan.

The initial discovery was by chance in 1947, and not by archaeologists! Bedouin shepherds found seven scrolls or parts of scrolls and fragments, along with store jars and broken pottery jars in a cave overlookingthe northwest end of the Dead Sea. When a dealer acting on behalf of the shepherds sold the scrolls, they came to the attention of scholars in Jerusalem and then the scholarly world.

Subsequent investigations in the area of the cave of discovery ultimately led to the recovery of documents in a total of eleven caves and the excavation of a modest ruin nearby known as Khirbet (the ruin of) Qumran. All of this was occurring as the modern State of Israel was coming into existence, with all the political upheaval involved in that development. [2] As this century ends and a new one begins, efforts for a peaceful political settlement in the region continue and give signs of reaching fruition. In the meantime, scholars continue to study the multitude of fragments recovered and to attempt to assess their significance.

Among the more than eight hundred documents represented by whole scrolls, incomplete scrolls, and a myriad of fragments which have been recovered are complete copies or portions of all the books in the Hebrew Bible (our OT), except for the Book of Esther. These texts are older by at least a thousand years than any previous biblical texts written in Hebrew that we had prior to the discovery. They provide a window into the textual history of the OT prior to the closure of the canon. [3]

Besides copies of scriptural texts, from the caves in the Qumran area came sectarian documents that open a panorama on the obscure Jewish group apparently related to the production and deposition of the manuscripts. [4] This group was likely the Essenes, previously known from references to them in the writings of Flavius Josephus, Philo Judaeus, and Pliny the Elder. All the texts discovered, taken together, open a critical window into events in Palestine in the decades prior to and following the birth of Christ (although no NT texts were found among the scrolls) up to the time of the First Jewish Revolt against the Romans. The historical period of the Dead Sea Scrolls illuminates the environment in which Christianity developed in Palestine, the transformation of Judaism into Rabbinic Judaism in the aftermath of the First Revolt of the Jews against the Romans with the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple, and the context in which the canonization of Holy Scripture was progressing.

The Dead Sea Scrolls now reside mainly in the Shrine of the Book, a part of the Israel Museum in Jerusalem where they are on display. The Copper Scroll can be seen in the Archaeological Museum in Amman, Jordan. Many of the small fragments are housed in the Rockefeller Museum in East Jerusalem. Scholars work almost exclusively with photographs and microfilm of the fragments, however, and these are available to scholars at many of the major universities around the world. It is likely that researchers will still be at work on the scrolls fifty years hence. [5]

2 THE HOUSE OF DAVID INSCRIPTION
More than a quarter of a century of excavations at Tel Dan in the north of Israel at the foot of Mount Hermon produced little in the way of written material. The excavations have been directed through the years since 1966 by Dr. Avraham Biran, distinguised Israeli archaeologist. Then on July 21, 1993, while work crews were preparing the site for visitors, a broken fragment of basalt stone was uncovered in secondary use in a wall. Surveyor Gila Cook glanced at the stone in the rays of the afternoon sun and saw what looked like alphabetic letters. On closer examination it turned out that, indeed, they had found an inscribed stone.. The discovery was of a fragment of a large monumental inscription, measuring about 32 cm. high and 22 cm. at its greatest width. Apparently the stone had been purposely broken in antiquity. It turned out that the stele fragment mentions King David's dynasty, "the House of David." As the preparatory work for tourism proceeded, two additional fragments of the stele were recovered in two separate, disparate locations in June of 1994. The partially reconstructed text reads as follows:

1. [ ... ...] and cut [ ... ]
2. [ ... ] my father went up [against him when] he fought at [ ... ]
3. And my father lay down, he went to his [ancestors]. And the king of I [s-]
4. rael entered previously in my father's land. [And] Hadad made me king.
5. And Hadad went in front of me, [and] I departed from [the] seven [ ...-]
6. s of my kingdom, and I slew [seve]nty kin[gs], who harnessed thou[sands of cha-]
7. Riots and thousands of horsemen (or: horses). [I killed Jeho]ram son of [Ahab]
8. king of Israel, and [I] killed [Ahaz]iahu son of [Jehoram kin-]
9. g of the House of David. And I set [their towns into ruins and turned]
10. their land into [desolation ... ]
11. other [ ... and Jehu ru-]
12. led over Is[rael ... and I laid ]
13. siege upon [ ... ] [6]

The pavement and the wall where the fragments were found was laid at the end of the 9th or beginning of the 8th century BC, according to pottery fragments recovered in probes beneath the flagstone pavement. Since the fragment and the entire pavement was covered by the debris of the Assyrian destruction of Tiglath Pileser III, in 732 BC, it could not have been laid latter than that year.

The surmise is that Jehoash (798-782), grandson of Jehu, or Jehoash's son, Jeroboam II (793, co-regent 782-753), and more likely Jehoash, was the monarch who had this reminder of Aramaean domination smashed (2 Kgs 13:25). It is further assumed that Hazael (844/42-798?) was then king of Aram- Damascus, because Hazael fought against Jehoram of Israel and Ahaziah of Judah ( 2 Kgs 8:7-15, 28; 2 Chr 22:5). Hazael was followed by his son and successor, Ben-hadad III, early in the 8th century BC

The discovery provides an archaeological connection to the biblical references to the ruling dynasty established by King David approximately two centuries before the events that are mentioned in the inscription. It is the first mention of King David and the earliest mention of a biblical figure outside of the Bible. The discovery is of particular importance in the face of those scholars who were either skeptical or denied the historical existence of King David [7]

3 AMULET SCROLL [8]
In 1979 Israeli archaeologist Gabriel Barkay, working with a group of students from the Institute of Holy Land Studies (now Jerusalem University College), excavated several tombs in Jerusalem on the "Shoulder of Hinnom," on the southwestern slope of the Hinnom Valley adjacent to the Scottish Presbyterian Church of St. Andrew. In one burial cave a repository for grave goods was found, containing approximately 700 items, including burial gifts of pottery vessels, over 100 pieces of silver jewelry, arrowheads, bone and ivory artifacts, alabaster vessels, 150 beads and a rare, early coin. Among the silver items was a rolled-up amulet bearing the tetragrammaton, the name of God (the consonantal letters yod, he, waw, he), YHWH.

The tomb dates to the end of the Davidic dynasty, approximately the seventh century BC. The silver amulet thus dates to the end of the seventh or early sixth century. The prayer-like inscription containing the divine name provides the oldest extra-biblical evidence for the name of God thus far archaeologically recovered in Jerusalem. The scripture passage on the amulet is from the Aaronic or priestly blessing found in Num 6:24-25. The owner apparently wore the inscribed, rolled-up silver amulet during his/her lifetime, and people felt it appropriate that such objects should accompany the owner in death as in life.

Of secondary interest is the fact that the evidence from the Shoulder of Hinnom tombs indicates a population in the Jerusalem area in the aftermath of the Babylonian destruction of the city. The evidence also indicates a certain level of wealth on the part of those buried in the tombs.

4 GALILEE BOAT [9]
A severe drought in 1985-86 brought the Sea of Galilee to unusually low levels, exposing large areas of the lakebed along the shoreline. Two brothers–Moshe and Yuval Lufan--from Kibbutz Ginnosar, near Tiberias along the northwest shore of the sea, discovered the remains of a 2,000 year old boat buried in the mud along the shore. Israeli archaeologist Shelley Wachsman, an expert in marine archaeology, examined the sunken boat in situ and was able to confirm that it was an ancient rather than a modern craft. His judgment was based on a construction technique used in antiquity in which the planks of the hull were edge-joined with mortise and tendon joints held together by wooden pegs. This was the first time an ancient boat had been discovered in the Sea of Galilee.


The Galilee Boat on Permanent Display
at the Nof Ginosaur Museum.

The boat measured approximately 30 feet long and 8 feet wide at its greatest width. It was excavated during February, 1986, and carefully moved some 1600 yards to a specially constructed conservation pool where it remained for several years undergoing treatment for its preservation. On the basis of pottery fragments found in the boat, it has been dated between the latter part of the first century BC to approximately the mid-century AD. Seventeen pieces of pottery were used in the analysis, including a complete lamp and cooking pot, as well as identifiable fragments of cooking pots, store jars, a jug and juglets. The pottery was identifiable as a part of the assemblage known from other Galilee excavation sites. In addition, carbon 14 dating gave corroborating dates between 120 BC and AD 40.

Evidence was found that the boat could be both sailed and/or rowed. Apparently the boat could accommodate four oarsmen plus a helmsman. It is estimated that the boat could hold some fifteen individuals, similar to the boats in which Jesus and his twelve disciples traveled across the sea (See Matt 8:18, 23-27, 9:1, 14:13- 14, 22-32, 15:39, 16:5; Mark 4;35-41, 5:18, 21, 6:32-34, 45-51, 8:9-10, 13-14; Luke 6:1, 8:22-25, 37, 40; John 6:16-21).

In recent years the boat, now preserved through the conservation efforts, has a permanent home in a specially constructed exhibit hall at Kibbutz Ginnosar. It has become a highlight for tourists visiting the Holy Land and a visual reminder of the Gentle Teacher from Galilee.

5 BARUCH BULLA [10]
Literally hundreds of Hebrew seals and seal impressions have been discovered in the last century and a half either in authorized archaeological excavations or by clandestine diggers; the results of the latter ending up in the hands of antiquities dealers, subsequently to come into the hands of collectors or of scholars. Hardened clay seal impressions are called "bullae" (sg., bulla). Bullae have survived in damp earth in a remarkable way.

In biblical Israel, papyrus was the primary form of writing material. Once an official document was written, it would be rolled up, one end folded in one-third of the breadth and the opposite end similarly folded in. The document, now shortened by folding, was tied with a string and a lump of clay was impressed on the knotted string. Then the upper surface of the clay lump was impressed with the signet ring of the owner of the document or its writer. Such documents were stored in temple or palace archives, with the unbroken seal guaranteeing the validity of the document's contents.

The reason the clay bullae survived is that a conflagration that destroyed the building and the papyrus archive fired the clay sealings, making them practically indestructible. The evidence of the knotted cord to which the clay had been attached remains on the underside of the bullae.

Sometime during the 1970's, a bulla containing the stamp and name of the scribe of Jeremiah appeared on the antiquities market and was acquired by a collector, Dr. R. Hecht. He permitted Israeli archaeologist Nahman Avigad to publish the bulla, which came from an unidentified place, now thought to be the "burnt house" excavated by Yigal Shiloh. The bulla is now in the Israel Museum. It measures 17 by 16 mm, and is stamped with an oval seal, 13 by 11 mm. A single line borders the impression, and it is divided by double horizontal lines into three registers bearing the following inscription:

lbrkyhw Belonging to Berechiah
bn nryhw son of Neriah
hspr the scribe.

The script used is the pre-exilic ancient Hebrew linear script, rather than the post-exilic script adopted by Jews from the contemporary Aramaic script. Reading the Hebrew from right to left, the first letter, Heb (l), is the preposition "to, belonging to," and the last three letters, heb. (yhw)is a shortened form of the name of God, Heb. (yhwh), the shortened form was likely pronounced "yahu." Baruch's name means "Blessed of the Lord (Yahweh)."

This bulla was without doubt from the impression of Baruch ben Neriah , the scribe who wrote to the dictation of the prophet Jeremiah (Jer 36:4). Dr. Avigad expressed his personal feelings as he worked with the Baruch Bulla as having the feeling "of personal contact with persons who figure prominently in the dramatic events in which the giant figure of Jeremiah and his faithful follower Baruch were involved at a most critical time preceding the downfall of Judah." [11]

Avigad also published a seal bearing the inscription "Belonging to Seraiah (ben) Neriah." Seriah was the "chief chamberlain" in the court of King Zedekiah (Jer 51:59). [12] He accompanied the king to Babylon, and he carried a written oracle from the prophet Jeremiah looking for the ultimate destruction of Babylon, which he was to read aloud on his arrival in the city, then to throw the document into the Euphrates (Jer 59:64). Seriah ben Neriah was the brother of Baruch ben Neriah, and both were close friends of the prophet Jeremiah.

6 OSSUARY OF CAIAPHAS [13]
A dump truck accidentally smashed through the roof of a tomb in November, 1990, during some work in the Jerusalem Peace Forest, leading to the discovery of the ossuary which contained the bones of the High Priest in the time of Jesus. The Jerusalem Peace Forest is located on the southwest side of old Jerusalem, across the Hinnom Valley from Mt. Zion. Here, on the slope of the hills is a large cemetery from the late Second Temple era (1st century BC to 1st century AD). Rock-cut burial chambers used by Jews in this period contained typically four burial niches, shelves cut into the sides of the chamber; ossuaries are also characteristic of and unique to the period.

An ossuary is a stone bone box, used for secondary burials. Initially the body is laid to rest in a burial niche. After decomposition, the bones were collected and placed in an ossuary, making the burial niche available for a subsequent burial. Tombs belonged to families, so subsequent burials were normal. Two of a dozen ossuaries in the tomb contained a form of the name Qafa', or Caiaphas. Several of the ossuaries were decorated with traditional carved rosettes, zig-zag patterns, and other designs. The most intricately carved ossuary was decorated with two circles each containing five rosettes, and twice carved into an undecorated side appears the name, "Yehosef bar Qafa'" (Joseph son of Caiaphas). The ossuary contained the remains of six people: two infants, a child aged two to five, a boy aged 13 to 18, an adult female and a man about 60 years old. The latter are believed to be the bones of Caiaphas, before whom Jesus was brought for questioning (Matt 26:3, 57; Luke 3:2; John 11:49, 18:13, 14, 24, 28; Acts 4:6) [14]

7 PONTIUS PILATE INSCRIPTION

Replica of Pilate Inscription on Display at Caesarea.

Pontius Pilate was the fifth governor of Roman Judea, under whose governance Jesus of Nazareth was crucified (Matt 27:2, plus 60 additional occurrences in the gospels, Acts, and 1 Timothy). He was appointed by the emperor Tiberius in AD 26 and suspended by L. Vitellius, Roman governor of Syria, in AD 37, after slaughtering a number of Samaritans at Mt. Gerizim.

Although Pilate is also mentioned in Josephus, Philo and Tacitus and coins issued during his governance exist, inscriptional evidence for Pilate was discovered in Italian excavations at Caesarea Maritima in 1961. Antonio Frova, director of the excavations, found a dedicatory stone that bore a three-line inscription: Tiberieum/[Pon]tius Pilatus/[Praef]ectus Iuda[eae], "Tiberius [the Roman emperor of the period]/Pontius Pilate/Prefect of Judea." The stone, in secondary use in the theatre at Caesarea, had been shaped to fit its new use and in the process some of the inscription had been mutilated, although it was easily reconstructed. The inscription not only confirms the historicity of Pilate, it clarifies the title that he bore as governor. It is now on display in the Israel Museum in Jerusalem.

8 EKRON INSCRIPTION [15]
In 1993, archaeologists Seymour Gitin of the W. F. Albright Institute of Archaeological Research and Trude Dothan of Hebrew University of Jerusalem, were in their thirteenth and final season of excavations at Tel Miqne in Israel. They had long suspected that Tel Miqne was the site of one of the main cities of the Philistine pentapolis, specifically biblical Ekron (Josh 13:3, plus 23 other references in the OT). Then a royal dedicatory inscription carved into a slab of limestone dramatically confirmed the place name, along with the names of five of its rulers, and two of them are specifically mentioned in the Bible.

The inscription was found in a destruction layer attributed to the Babylonian conquest dating to 603 BC It was within a 186 by 124 foot structure, considered a temple complex. The complex followed the design of known Assyrian palaces, and one section contained a sanctuary with a stone pavement; the inscription had fallen in the destruction to the pavement. The five lines of the inscription reads:

1. The temple which he built, 'kysh (Achish, Ikausu) son of Padi, son of
2. Ysd son of Ada, son of Ya'ir, ruler of Ekron,
3. For Ptgyh his lady. May she bless him, and
4. protect him, and prolong his days, and bless
5. his land.

Both Ikausu and his father, Padi, are known from Assyrian records as kings of Ekron. Sennacherib's annals mention Padi, in connection with the Assyrian campaign against the region in 701 BC that included the siege of King Hezekiah's Jerusalem. Padi also payed his taxes to his Assyrian overlord in 699 BC, as recorded on a royal clay sealing, indicating a contribution of a light talent of silver, about 67.5 pounds. Ikausu is numbered among twelve regional kings who transported building materials to Nineveh for the construction of the palace of Esarhaddon (680-669 BC) and also in a list of kings who assisted Ashurbanipal in his first campaign against Egypt in 667 BC The other three kings in this Philistine dynasty, Ysd, Ada and Yair, are otherwise unattested.

The goddess Ptgyh may be an unknown Philistine deity or, more likely, by reading the damaged fourth letter of the name as "nun=n", as Pt[n]yh. [16] This would be read as "Potnia," meaning "mistress" or "lady," the formal title used for various goddesses in ancient Greek The goddess behind the title was likely Asherah, a Semitic deity, since the other known Philistine deities bear clearly Semitic names: Dagon and Ba`al-zebul. The inscription thus helps confirm that the Philistines, whose origins were in Caphtor=Crete, in biblical tradition (See Amos 9:7), had largely assimilated to Canaanite culture in the centuries between their arrival and the dedication of the temple of Ekron.

9 MOUNT EBAL ALTAR [17]
This is a controversial pick, because the interpretation of the discovery is far from settled; nevertheless, Israeli archaeologist Adam Zertal, who came across the ruins during an archaeological survey of the tribal region of Manasseh in 1980, still adheres to his interpretation. He went on to excavate the site located on Mt Ebal, the mountain from which Joshua pronounced the curses, [18] lying opposite Mt. Gerizim, the mountain of blessings, and separated by the valley in which the ruins of ancient Shechem lie near modern Nablus. He determined to excavate the site because in the survey he had found a great quantity of pottery sherds lying around the large pile of stones. The sherds dated to Iron Age I, ca. 1220-1000 BC, the period in which Israelites apparently settled in Canaan, as well as the period of the Judges. Further, though many Iron Age I sites were discovered in the survey, this was the only such site on Mt. Ebal.


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Excavations began in the fall of 1982 and were concluded after six seasons. What was revealed was a compound consisting of enclosure walls, a large rectangular structure built of unhewn stones, including spaces deliberately filled with four distinct layers of earth, stones, ashes, animal bones, potsherds, or combinations of each. In the ash layers were 962 animal bones which were burned or scorched. These included the remains of four species: sheep, goats, domesticated cattle and fallow deer. These faunal remains differ from those found in typical Iron Age I sites because the range of animals represented is quite narrow. Usually evidence of the donkey and the dog are also found in Iron Age sites. Further, the pig, which is attracted to the same environment as fallow deer, is lacking at this site. All this suggests that the Mt. Ebal ruins was a cultic site where animals were sacrificed and eaten. The place was abandoned by 1130 BC Because of its unique location and singular characteristics, Zertal believes this was the altar built and used when Joshua fulfilled Moses' command to build an altar to Yahweh on Mt. Ebal (8:30-35).

10 UGARIT [19]
Tell Ras Shamra contains the ruins of an ancient city known as Ugarit. The name was known, although the location was not, from references in the Amarna letters of Egypt and the political correspondence from ancient Mari prior to the discovery in 1928. The major excavator was Claude F. A. Schaeffer followed after his retirement by several other French directors. Excavations still continue in the face of growing urbanization both at the tell and at a seaside site a few kilometers away, Ras Ibn Hani.


Some of the Excavations of Tell Ras Shamra.
Photo by Ferrell Jenkins, May 2002.


Apart from the architecture and artifacts of a wealthy, cosmopolitan center recovered, the significance of Ugarit is in the recovery of thousands of cuneiform tablets, written in several languages current in international circles of the day, but particularly a heretofore unknown language now bearing the name Ugaritic, after the site. When deciphered, the cuneiform signs used for writing were discovered to be based on the Semitic alphabet rather than on the syllabic signs of Mesopotamia. Even more important were the contents of the documents written in Ugaritic. Some were recovered from palace complexes and were primarily administrative and economic texts, opening a window on the international diplomacy and trade current before the city's destruction and demise c. 1180 BC. Others were recovered from temple complexes, including the legends and myths of Ugarit. Two legendary epics focus on ancient kings, Keret and Danel. Mythological texts recount the stories of Baal and Anath, Kathir-and-Khasis, El (the patriarch of the gods), Athtart, Mot (the god of sterility and death), Yam (the sea monster god) and others.

The myths and legends of Ugarit permit us to glimpse the conceptions of the supernatural that infused Canaanite life and thought and to observe their cultic rites and practices. The Canaanites were polytheists, and their gods were primarily deified aspects of nature. What we have is an unbiased view into the culture which dominated the land of Canaan into which the Israelites came, permitting us to understand the religious and cultural environment that in part Israel conquered and in part which conquered Israel. The Ugaritic literature and material continue to provide a rich source for comparative studies with biblical texts, including the Hebrew language, sociological, economic, monarchical, and religious areas. [20]





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There is very little doubt in anyone's mind about the reality of so many of the Old and New Testament cities mentioned in the Bible. Therefore, it is hardly necessary to document their existence. Nevertheless, following is a partial list of some of the cities mentioned in the Bible that have been found and excavated by archaeologists. This is simply more evidence that the Bible describes actual locations that can be verified. This means that at the very least, the Bible accurately reflects the locations and cities of ancient times.

Remember, this is only a partial list. There are hundreds of biblical cities that have been verified in archaeological digs.

1.Arad
A.Num. 21:1, "When the Canaanite, the king of Arad, who lived in the Negev, heard that Israel was coming by the way of Atharim, then he fought against Israel, and took some of them captive."
B.Num. 33:40, "Now the Canaanite, the king of Arad who lived in the Negev in the land of Canaan, heard of the coming of the sons of Israel."
i."Arad 30 km NE of Beersheba, excavated from 1962 to 1974 by Y. Aharoni and R. B. K. Amiran."1
ii."The site consists of an upper mound or acropolis, where excavation has revealed an Iron Age (post thirteenth century B.C.)."2
iii.The remains of a Hebrew temple were uncovered at Arad.3
2.Bethel
A.Amos 7:12-13, "Then Amaziah said to Amos, "Go, you seer, flee away to the land of Judah, and there eat bread and there do your prophesying! 13 "But no longer prophesy at Bethel, for it is a sanctuary of the king and a royal residence."
i."W. F. Albright made a trial excavation at Bethel in 1927. Albright then mounted a full excavation in 1934. His assistant that year, J. L. Kelso, continued the excavation in 1954, 1957, and 1960."4
3.Capernaum
A.Matt. 17:24, "And when they had come to Capernaum, those who collected the two-drachma tax came to Peter, and said, "Does your teacher not pay the two-drachma tax?"
i."Identified since 1856 with Tell Hum, Capernaum has been sporadically excavated for the past 130 years."5
4.Chorazin
A.Matt. 11:21, "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes."
i."Excavations of the now deserted town indicate that it once covered an area of twelve acres and was built on a series of terraces with the basalt stone local to this mountainous region."6
5.Dan
A.Judges 18:29, "And they called the name of the city Dan, after the name of Dan their father who was born in Israel; however, the name of the city formerly was Laish."
i."The excavation of Dan began in 1966 under the direction fo Avraham Biran."7
ii."Formerly called Laish, it is mentioned in the execration texts, the eighteenth-century b.c. Mari tablets, and the records of the Egyptian pharaoh Thutmose III. It is identified with Tel Dan (modern Tell el-Qadi) covering about 50 acres in the center of a fertile valley near one of the principal springs feeding the Jordan River...Tel Dan has been excavated by A. Biran since 1966. The earliest occupation, probably the full extent of the tell, goes back to about the middle of the third millennium B.C."8
6.Ephesus
A.Eph. 1:1, "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, to the saints who are at Ephesus, and who are faithful in Christ Jesus."
i."Austrian archaeologists in this century [2oth] have excavated the 24,000-seat theater and the commercial agora, as well as many other public buildings and streets of the first and second centuries a.d., so that the modern visitor can gain some impression of the city as known by Paul.9
7.Gaza
A.Acts 8:26, "But an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip saying, "Arise and go south to the road that descends from Jerusalem to Gaza."
i.Gaza was was excavated by W. J. Phythian-Adams in 1922.10
8.Gezer
A.Joshua 16:10, "But they did not drive out the Canaanites who lived in Gezer..."
i.R.A.S. MacAlister "directed the Palestine Exploration Fund for many years and conducted extensive excavations at Gezer (1902–1909)."11
9.Hazor
A.Joshua 11:1, "Then it came about, when Jabin king of Hazor heard of it, that he sent to Jobab king of Madon and to the king of Shimron and to the king of Achshaph."
B.Jer. 49:28, "Concerning Kedar and the kingdoms of Hazor, which Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon defeated. Thus says the Lord, "Arise, go up to Kedar and devastate the men of the east."
i."This large Canaanite and Israelite city in upper Galilee was excavated under Yigael Yadin's direction from 1955 to 1958 and from 1968 to 1970."12
10.Hesbon
A.Josh. 12:2, "Sihon king of the Amorites, who lived in Heshbon, and ruled from Aroer, which is on the edge of the valley of the Arnon..."
i.Excavations were undertaken by Andrews University from 1968 to 1976.13
11.Jericho
A.Num. 22:1, "Then the sons of Israel journeyed, and camped in the plains of Moab beyond the Jordan opposite Jericho."
B.
i."Jericho was the oldest inhabited and fortified city ever excavated."14
ii."The city of OT times is represented today by a mound 70 feet high and 10 acres in area...The ancient city was excavated by C. Warren (1867), E. Sellin and C. Watzinger (1907-09), J. Garstang (1930-36), and K. Kenyon (1952-58)."15
iii."The first scientific excavation there (1907-9) was by Sellin and Watzinger (Jericho, 1913)."16
12.Joppa
A.Acts 9:38,"And since Lydda was near Joppa, the disciples, having heard that Peter was there, sent two men to him, entreating him, "Do not delay to come to us."
i."During excavations of the site of ancient Joppa a thirteenth-century b.c. citadel gate was uncovered...."17
13.Nineveh
A.2 Kings 19:36, "So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed and returned home, and lived at Nineveh."
B.Jonah 1:1-2, "The word of the Lord came to Jonah the son of Amittai saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nineveh the great city, and cry against it, for their wickedness has come up before Me."
i.Excavated in from 1845 to 1857 by Austen H. Layard.18
14.Shechem
A.Gen. 12:6, "And Abram passed through the land as far as the site of Shechem, to the oak of Moreh. Now the Canaanite was then in the land."
B.Gen. 33:18, "Now Jacob came safely to the city of Shechem, which is in the land of Canaan, when he came from Paddan-aram, and camped before the city."
i."Excavations were carried out at Shechem, first by Austrian-German expeditions in 1913 and 1914, and again from 1926 to 1934, under several directors, and then by an American expedition from 1956 to 1972....Excavation of the sacred area revealed a courtyard sanctuary and a later fortress temple dedicated to El-berith "the god of the covenant." This temple, which was destroyed by Abimelech, the son of the judge Gideon (Judges 9) has provided us with a date of the judges period."19
ii.Most recently a structure identified as an Israelite altar has been excavated on the northeastern slope of Mt. Ebal. Dating to the 13th to 12th centuries B.C., considered to be the time of Joshua, the altar suggest the possibility that it may be the altar built by Joshua and described in Deuteronomy 27, 28."20
15.Susa
A.Neh. 1:1, "The words of Nehemiah the son of Hacaliah. Now it happened in the month Chislev, in the twentieth year, while I was in Susa the capitol,
B.Esther 1:1-2, "Now it took place in the days of Ahasuerus, the Ahasuerus who reigned from India to Ethiopia over 127 provinces, 2 in those days as King Ahasuerus sat on his royal throne which was in Susa the capital,
i.Escavations were conducted by Marcel Dieulafoy from 1884 to 1886.21
There is very little doubt in anyone's mind about the reality of so many of the Old and New Testament cities mentioned in the Bible. Therefore it is hardly necessary to document their existence. Nevertheless, following is a partial list of some of the cities mentioned in the Bible that have been found and excavated by archaeologists. This is simply more evidence that the Bible describes actual locations that can be verified. This means that at the very least, the Bible accurately reflects the locations and cities of ancient times.

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el kabong wrote:Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Bible is unparrelled for Drama and excitement. thumbs up

the ground and foundation of History and Society. thumbs up

Lilly, show us a map of Australia with Historical Biblical Sites. Like this thumbs up
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Face it lillywilly, you have ZERO/0 Evidence..Scriptural, Historical, Archaeological to support your claim. It's impossible to deform/mistranslate scripture to the degree that you attempt. Provide one credentialed Scholar that supports your bullshit. thumbs up


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el kabong wrote:Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


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did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 4 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

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Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf

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