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Post  MoMo Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:32 pm

Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


lillywilly...... wave

did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

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Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf

lilly, are you capable of understanding the term: RUNT CONTINENT as it pertains to Australia? It means its the SMALLEST Continent.......... thumbs up lmao rolf wave wacky
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Post  true lilly Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:44 pm

And why act as if you don't know
the vast difference between
the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,

and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?

true lilly wrote:'they' really do lack in creativity, when it comes to
inventing non-existent links to those 'they' ARE
PLOTTING AGAINST.

And insult the minds of EVERY reader.

So very soon after "dixie d's" posted links to
"CLEMENTINE" this fool tries to 'cover' one
poor excuse to post a CODED PLOT/THREAT,
with an even worse 'explanation' of 'reasoning'.

So poor, I thought maybe WIKIPEDIA had changed
facts with lies, AGAIN, but no.

And so, here it is; another VERY ANGRY,
VERY DIRECTLY THREATENING (to those
NOT DECEIVED by the 'smooth' words),post by:


pri01 wrote:28-07-2011, 09:33 PM #29850
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Image
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninny
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i thought to add this here, because this is pretty bizarre

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011...d-and-defaced/

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Swagger's been on my mind recently because of this person.

cher lloyd.jpg

Cher Lloyd, was a hit with last year’s x factor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Lloyd

She got through the second round
though with a song that she apparently penned the lyrics to part of it. I
suspect she was coached in this because of the reference to Jerusalem
but can’t be fully sure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jooLnnhTrbE

Her first single, or a song from her
new album called swagger jagger, the chorus follows the tune of the
Australian song ‘Oh my darling clementine’, a song related to the gold
rush
.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Darling,_Clementine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbyG2MrBHk&ob=av2e

May have something to do with the economy.

Maybe related to: the FACT Ballarat alone, produced more gold
than California, and that Australia's Foreign ENEMIES
Twisted Evil are so
BITTERLY JEALOUS of The Glorious Land Spiritual Israel Is Blessed With,
that 'they' slave to bring us the evils of 'their' insane WAR AGAINST GOD.


I'd say it also has A LOT to do with these posts that caused
"Billy Ruben & el kabong" to SPAM ALL MY THREADS with LIES &
WAY OFF TOPIC CATS & CRAP in a futile effort to make those
who matter, 'forget' THE NEWS that NONE of 'them' DARE to
cover in "TODAY'S NEWS" at DIF...
Rolling Eyes

true lilly wrote:
cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826




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crosshairs

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...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.
[/quote]

true lilly wrote:Could Google have caught the Norway killer?
Asher Moses
July 28, 2011

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Click to play video
'More openness' will prevent attacks
Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that
Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.
With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?

Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.

Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"

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Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches


Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.

He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.

Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.

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The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.

"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.
Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.

Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.
Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.

However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.

Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."

Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.

Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".

"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.

"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."

In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.

And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.

"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.

"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."
Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.

And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.

"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.

Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.

Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".

But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.

Google Australia declined to comment.

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Twitter-icon This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh

sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...

true lilly wrote:"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...



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dixie d wrote: 26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807

I noticed two articles in the News today...

Morocco military plane crash kills 78

And...

Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally

I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...

Quote:
It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.
I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania

The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin

Quote:
A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft.
Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric
imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more
modern.
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I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.

Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.

28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT


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Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea


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Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down
Related Stories

  • S Korea hit by fatal landslides
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Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.

The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.

It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.

A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.

After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.

Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.

Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.

The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.


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Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Gremcov

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A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol

A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a
specific interest in aircraft.


The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929
...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
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714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS

...and THIS, REALLY GOT 'their' GOAT...

true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,

in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.


And why act as if you don't know the vast difference
between the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?


Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:


Isa 22:20
And it shall come to pass in that day 3117,
that I will call 7121 my servant 5650
Eliakim 471
the son 1121 of Hilkiah 2518:

Isa 22:21
And I will clothe 3847 him with thy robe 3801,
and strengthen 2388 him with thy girdle 73,
and I will commit 5414 thy government 4475
into his hand 3027
: and he shall be a father 1
to the inhabitants 3427 of Jerusalem 3389,
and to the house 1004 of Judah 3063.

Isa 22:22
And the key 4668 of the house 1004 of David 1732
will I lay 5414 upon his shoulder 7926;
so he shall open 6605, and none shall shut 5462;
and he shall shut 5462, and none shall open 6605.

Rev 3:7
And 2532 to the angel 32 of the church 1577 in 1722
Philadelphia 5359 write 1125;
These things 3592 saith 3004 he that is holy 40,
he that is true 228, he that hath 2192 the key 2807
of David 1138
, he that openeth 455, and 2532
no man 3762 shutteth 2808; and 2532 shutteth 2808,
and 2532 no man 3762 openeth 455;


true lilly wrote:Do you see what I see?

Do you wonder why it was done?


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Artificial color image
of the Double Helix Nebula,
thought to be generated at the
galactic center by magnetic torsion
1000 times greater than the sun's.

Yep, a STAR of DAVID
circled by 12 more
POINTS of LIGHT.


And if you click on to the full sized image, also...
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The Tudor rose
is used as the plant badge of
England.

Smile
London 2012 Olympics:
medal designs unveiled

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MORE Wink here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8665946/London-2012-Olympics-medal-designs-unveiled.html

Now why would a world full of
CONspiracy 'sleuths' keep avoiding,
the topic of the "O" in ZION

(in The Centre of this circle
representing The World),
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Grey-blk-ausi

looking just like OZ, O'ZION,
AUSTRALIA
,
even with the 'dot' of the "I" there
for little Tasmania?


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Could it be for the same reason 'they' also
keep avoiding
the topic of who Australia
can thank for BOOMING while
the rest of
the world, is crashing?

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Moreover, thou son 1121 of man 120,
take 3947 thee one 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Judah 3063,
and for the children 1121 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
then take 3947 another 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Joseph 3130,
the stick 6086 of Ephraim 669,
and [for] all the house 1004 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:

And join 7126 them one 259 to another 259
into one 259 stick 6086;
and they shall become one 259
in thine hand 3027.


Moreover I will make 3772
a covenant 1285 of peace 7965 with them;
it shall be an everlasting 5769 covenant 1285
with them:
and I will place 5414 them,
and multiply 7235 them, and will set 5414
my sanctuary 4720 in the midst 8432 of them
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for evermore 5769.

My tabernacle 4908 also shall be with them:
yea, I will be their God 430,
and they shall be my people 5971.

And the heathen 1471 shall know 3045
that
I the LORD 3068 do sanctify 6942 Israel 3478,
when my sanctuary 4720 shall be in the midst 8432
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of them for evermore 5769.


Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=37&v=1&t=KJV#top
P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.
[/quote]
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Post  true lilly Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:23 pm

Hey C. UNT...Africa is 'bigger' to...
...'you' SICK F. UCK...


...mmm...CHILLING CHOICE of
3 out of 3 LEAD IMAGE/REPORTS...



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Mihag Gedi Farah is seven months old and weighs 3.4kg, about the average
weight of a newborn baby. Famine in Somalia has already killed tens of
thousands and the UN warns numbers will grow.
Picture: AP
Read More
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 142134-masterchef
Ellie Paxton-Hall, the youngest MasterChef contestant, has been sent home
after last night's cooking challenge and will blog about her time on the
show from 12.30pm today.

Read More
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A controversial child beauty pageant from the US starts in Melbourne
today. Do you think these events are child abuse? Debate Susie O'Brien
LIVE from noon today. Picture: Supplied
Read More

...but NOW, 'they' WILL simply point to the first image,
to 'excuse' BABIES BEING TREATED WORSE than the UNluckest
of Show Dogs that C. UNTS like GREENIE/ANIMAL LIBER
TERRORISTS, CAUSE TO BE KILLED, DUE TO THE LAWS
'they' DELIBERATELY INTRODUCE, under The LIE, "welfare".

THE SAME TERRORIST C. UNTS WHO DEFEND CHILD PORN
AND THE CHILD SEX TRADE 'as' "NEEDED" "FREE" "Artistic"
'luuvvving' "EXPRESSIONS".


Yep, it's getting bloody easy to find The Evil Damned
on CONspiracy Forums and All Over The WEB/NET of
FILTHY LIES THAT LEAD TO PERMANENT DEATH.
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Post  Billy Ruben Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:29 pm

true lilly wrote:Hey C. UNT...Africa is 'bigger' to...
...'you' SICK F. UCK...


...mmm...CHILLING CHOICE of
3 out of 3 LEAD IMAGE/REPORTS...



Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 078960-famine
Mihag Gedi Farah is seven months old and weighs 3.4kg, about the average
weight of a newborn baby. Famine in Somalia has already killed tens of
thousands and the UN warns numbers will grow.
Picture: AP
Read More
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 142134-masterchef
Ellie Paxton-Hall, the youngest MasterChef contestant, has been sent home
after last night's cooking challenge and will blog about her time on the
show from 12.30pm today.

Read More
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 799265-child-beauty-pageant
A controversial child beauty pageant from the US starts in Melbourne
today. Do you think these events are child abuse? Debate Susie O'Brien
LIVE from noon today. Picture: Supplied
Read More

...but NOW, 'they' WILL simply point to the first image,
to 'excuse' BABIES BEING TREATED WORSE than the UNluckest
of Show Dogs that C. UNTS like GREENIE/ANIMAL LIBER
TERRORISTS, CAUSE TO BE KILLED, DUE TO THE LAWS
'they' DELIBERATELY INTRODUCE, under The LIE, "welfare".

THE SAME TERRORIST C. UNTS WHO DEFEND CHILD PORN
AND THE CHILD SEX TRADE 'as' "NEEDED" "FREE" "Artistic"
'luuvvving' "EXPRESSIONS".


Yep, it's getting bloody easy to find The Evil Damned
on CONspiracy Forums and All Over The WEB/NET of
FILTHY LIES THAT LEAD TO PERMANENT DEATH.

Told ya so.
What a mouth she has on her,Told ya what Aussie Grannies are like,but nah!,no-one would listen.




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Post  Billy Ruben Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:33 pm

I warned you,I warned you,but nah,you're all the same...It's just a little bunny"

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Post  true lilly Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:59 am

World News

German population
'to shrink by 17m'

Agence France-Presse
November 19, 2009 03:41am

GERMANY
could be home to as many as
17 million fewer people in 50 years' time,
official statistics showed today,
laying bare the scale of the
demographic crisis in Europe's top economy.

At the same time, Germans are greying rapidly,
with one in three set to be over 65 by 2060,
compared to one in five now,
the federal statistics office said.
One in seven will be over 80.

The total population,
currently 82 million,
will slump to between 65 and 70 million
and neither immigration
nor an increase in the birth rate -
currently 1.4 children per woman -
can do much to ease the crisis, the office added.

Like other advanced economies,
Germany is facing a

snowballing population crisis,
leaving the country
short of workers

and adding to the strain on
already stretched public coffers.

On the other hand,
the global population is set to rise

to nine billion by about 2050,
up from 6.8 billion now,
with most of the increase
coming from
the developing world,
where people are on average
much younger than in the West....


....meanwhile...

Australia's birthrate on the rise‎ -
So for once the headlines are right:

we are in a baby boom.

Women delivering more
bundles of economic joy

November 18, 2009


1 day ago

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/pol...1117-ik8v.html

Banking giant joins
birth-rate battle

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# The Times
# November 19, 2009

JAPANESE banking giant MUFJ
is urging its staff to take an early mark,
go home and get to work on
improving Japan's waning birth rate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1225799578612


Catholics United Threatens
Churches, Pastors
Over Pro-Life Literature Drops


by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
October 31, 2008

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) --
This weekend, tens of thousands of pro-life advocates
will head to both Protestant and Catholic churches
to provide pro-life voting information to church members.

The pro-Obama group Catholics United
sent out an email to its supporters
urging them to confront
the pro-life advocates at the churches.

Groups like Priests for Life
and National Right to Life
and others will spearhead the literature drops,
but not if Catholics United
can stop them.


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The Boxing Day tsunami?
Black Saturday?
Unimaginable loss,
threats to our future.


But which had
the biggest impact on you?


Cataclysms
like the Indian Ocean tsunami or
the Black Saturday fires
announce and imprint themselves
on the public consciousness with
the force of a mini-apocalypse.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...019258,00.html

Video
http://player.video.news.com.au/news...bUL4qHnp_QCV8H
Tim Flannery on
the decade's biggest disasters


Yes, OUR GREATEST THREAT
IS "Them" "Making Room HERE"
FOR "Them"
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Fresh campaign for
'Australia's new world city'


KATHERINE FEENEY
November 18, 2009


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Brisbane's Lord Mayor has backed
a new campaign marketing the
Queensland capital as
Australia's new world city.

Photo: Michelle Smith[/size]
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/trav...1117-ik4b.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthony1965
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verasusa:

Could you please explain what you meant by the following comment?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...21&postcount=7

More like:

'Die Europe Die,
we're movin' South!'


Here was the thread to see the full context.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91376

Prince Charles apparently said "why Australia bothered with us – we are really yesterday’s news" which is very very true.

How do you get from this comment to "Did Europe Die"?

In what sense do you mean "Die"?

Decline in importance...

or literally "Die" as in people dying?


Well, I used to have a thread on,

'The Unhived Mind';
"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO...",

that explained a great deal
(as the thread title suggests),
then I brought the case I
was making there, here, on,

"The News Behind The News",
thread, where WARNINGS I posted
were flooded over with the THREATENING LIE
that 'The Bad Guys already have everything sown up',
and The GOOD NEWS for those heeding the warnings,
was drowned out.

Simply, those Long Ago New World lands,
now called the 'Old World', along with
the Americas, are 'Raped Sick' for their resources,
because 'They' knew the land itself is HIGHLY UNSTABLE,
so they milked it while they could, for 'spoil' to bring in
to replant, rebuild and re-beautify THE Promised Land.

But, as large, rich and stable as it is, still it can't comfortably
accommodate the world's total population, and so the great
lie of it being a dangerous, unliveable desert and our always,
very restrictive immigration policies...along with the shear evil
that 'would leave no flesh alive' anyway, IF it wasn't for the
Coming Age of the world being put back under the Laws of God's
Physics of deathlessness.

But all these great events and turning points of human history,
are Clearly Described in Holy Scripture, IF you know that the
Time Line Covered IS from the AGE of NO OXYGEN during Adam's
time on the Super-Continent, the AGE of eviction from Eden when
DEATH (the formation of oxygen) came into the world, the first and
subsequent, devastating separation of the land and it's movement,
through to The End Times that BEGAN THOUSANDS of Years Ago.

But again, there IS GOOD NEWS for those of the North: location
won't kill you, ONLY Denying The Holy Spirit of Truth can condemn
one to permanent death, even if you've already died without this
understanding, as ALL will be resurrected to full understanding before
they can make their FREE WILL CHOICE to Accept or Deny JUST,
TRUE LIFE.

So why all this 'human suffering' the bitter ask...
YOU'RE ALREADY DEAD, FFS!
What did you expect DEATH to be like, 'heavenly'!?!
Why do think HE WARNED US AGAINST CHOOSING IT!?!

How about a bit of gratitude for all the EVIDENCE (Prophetic Signs),
GOD gave us that HE'LL KEEP HIS PROMISE of a Second Chance
to LIVE, FOREVER CREATING, with NO MEMORY of Any Suffering!


Oh we have no problem thanking man for No Memory of
THE TORTURE of 'life saving' surgery, when we wake from
the anesthetic, but reckon that's beyond The Creator of
PERFECT LIFE!?!

Anyway, you only have to look at how many of the 'Well Heeled',
'Elite' of the world, have LONG BEEN INVESTING in Australia and
PUTTING OFF it's Major Development while running down the rest of
the UNSTABLE Lands...that so many only visit now to re-new their
visas, so as not to Tip Off 'The Profane'.
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Originally Posted by palomino
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http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25991536-913,00.html


KEY companies are lining up to join South Australia's
defence industry as an employment surge signals the start of an
anticipated boom.


It coincides with a dramatic rebound in consumer confidence, according to
BankSA's State Monitor, which yesterday revealed strong optimism
about the economy and job prospects.


Defence giant
Lockheed Martin has told the State Government it plans
a fourfold increase in its Australian workforce within five years, to
more than 1000 – and there is a strong likelihood it will establish its
headquarters in Adelaide.


The Government also is negotiating with a British-based cyber technology
firm which is considering SA as its new Australian base, potentially
creating more than 100 hi-tech jobs.

In the past three months, jobs related to the $8 billion

Air Warfare Destroyer contract
have jumped from 500 positions to almost
750.

Work on the first section of the hull begins in November and by 2013 it
is expected the project will employ 2000 people directly.
SA has secured seven projects – including the 12 next-generation
submarines costing $30 billion – predicted to almost double the number
of defence jobs to 28,000 by 2013.

Premier Mike Rann told The Advertiser
details of his defence-based talks in Washington and London as part of his 16-day overseas trade mission.
"The Government has set about making SA the defence capital of the
nation," he said. "Lockheed in Washington, who currently employ about
260 people in SA, told me that SA is now a main part of their
operations."
Mr Rann said the Government was trying to convince Lockheed Martin to establish a headquarters at the new Techport site at Osborne
He said SA was in a very competitive market and faced stiff competition from other states for hi-tech defence work.
"We have gone from $14 billion worth of projects to more than $40 billion projects over a 25-year period," Mr Rann said.

"We are now very much on their (defence companies') radar."

The Federal Government decided to share work on the destroyer contract around Australia, but the majority is being done in SA.
AWD Alliance chief executive John Gallacher said jobs were continually building up to the peak of 2000.

"There's about $450 million in the process of being invested in the
shipyard – and that's already created between 500 or 600 construction
jobs just in establishing new facilities," he said. "We've been building
up our own team – that's created jobs."

The project also is employing Spanish, U.S. and UK specialists.
"They give the project quite an interesting flavour because it gives you
that international feel, but the majority of the jobs have been
recruited from South Australians," Mr Gallacher said.

The jump in optimism recorded in the BankSA consumer confidence survey
is the largest single increase in its 12-year history. It also signals
the highest level of consumer confidence in a decade.

Business confidence also has risen sharply from February's record lows to levels not seen since the boom years of 2003 to 2005.

BankSA managing director Rob Chapman said consumers were much more
optimistic about their employment prospects and the economy in general.
"It is promising for the state as it represents a strong platform for future sales growth and labour demand," he said.

Earlier in the week, Mr Rann told about 400 SA
expatriates at a reception at Australia House in London they should
consider returning home for work, because the state was doing much
better than most coming out of the global financial crisis.


He said the growth in defence and mining interests in SA meant those
companies would need accountants, lawyers, IT specialists and other
hi-tech workers.[/size]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vetis
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/21/gchq_eds/

government hires 3rd party to manage it..one with a VERY bad record too (the CSA system for example)

As they are already designing and installing these devices..doesnt it
make it obvious that any "consultations" are merely for show and the
decision and contracts were signed a long time ago

Edit:

A commenter pointed this out:

"Work in Cheltenham to crunch the data is being carried out under a secret project called Mastering the Internet..........

Earlier this year The Register revealed
that Detica and Lockheed Martin
were already both involved in
Mastering the Internet,
contracting on analysis software
and hardware respectively."

So we know who is involved
(EDS (now HP),
Detica and Lockheed Martin),
we know what the project is called
(Mastering the Internet)


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/03/gchq_mti/ - mastering the internet.


The Lockheed Scandal

Scandal rocked the Royal Family in 1976
when it was revealed that
Prince Bernhard had accepted a
US$1.1 million bribe from U.S. aircraft manufacturer
Lockheed Corporation to influence the Dutch government's
purchase of fighter aircraft.

He had served on more than 300 corporate boards
or committees worldwide
and had been
praised in the Netherlands for his efforts
to promote the economic well-being of the country.

Prime Minister of the Netherlands Joop den Uyl
ordered an inquiry into the Lockheed affair,
while Prince Bernhard
refused to answer reporters' questions,
stating:
"I am above such things"[1].


The Dutch and international press headlined the stories for months,
providing proof of Prince Bernhard's Reiter SS membership and details of
his numerous extramarital affairs, including the purchase of a
luxurious Paris apartment for his mistress, Hélène Grinda, with whom he
had an illegitimate daughter, Alexia. (Bernhard also had a second
illegitimate daughter, Alicia, in the USA.)

On 26 August 1976, a toned-down, but nonetheless devastating, report on
Prince Bernhard's activities was released to a shocked Dutch public. The
Prince's own letter of 1974, to Lockheed Corporation, demanding
"commissions" be paid to him on [[Dutch governme aircraft purchases was
very damaging evidence of improper conduct by the Inspector General of
the Dutch Armed Forces. Criminal charges were not pressed by the
government out of respect for Queen Juliana, whose later abdication was
tacitly understood to be directly related to her husband's
conduct.[citation needed]

Prince Bernhard resigned as
Inspector-General of the Dutch armed forces.


The Prime Minister, Joop den Uyl, made a statement in Parliament and
told the delegates that the Prince would also resign from his various
high profile positions in businesses, charities, and other institutions.
The States-General voted against criminal
prosecution. Prince Bernhard turned over the presidency of the
international World Wildlife Fund to the British Duke of Edinburgh.
The Dutch Royal family worked hard to rehabilitate the Prince's name, though other scandals were to be revealed in later years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_...pe-Biesterfeld


Prince Bernhard,
Father of Dutch Queen,
Dies at 93
By DOUGLAS MARTIN

Published: December 2, 2004


Prince Bernhard, a bon vivant and outspoken
member of an ancient German royal family
who became husband of one queen of the Netherlands
and father of another,

died yesterday at a hospital in Utrecht near Amsterdam.
He was 93.


The Royal House of the Netherlands said that in November he was diagnosed with cancer, which spread to his stomach and lungs.

For six decades, Prince Bernhard lived at the royal palace in Soestdijk
with his wife, Queen Juliana. His daughter Beatrix became queen in 1980.
Juliana died this March at the age of 94.

Prince Bernhard earned global prominence by helping to establish the
World Wildlife Fund in 1961 and serving as its president until 1977. He
used his many contacts to set up the annual Bilderberg conferences, an
annual gathering of top business and political leaders to discuss great
issues facing the Western Alliance.


He emblazoned his dashing personality on his nation with his first
official visit to the Netherlands in 1936 with his fiancée, the crown
princess. He arrived in a powerful car, racing along the dikes until he
was stopped by a policeman for exceeding the speed limit. The Dutch had
expected a royal entourage, maybe a whole train.

The young German prince wore a white carnation in his buttonhole. It
soon became a popular decoration and within a few years would become a
symbol of resistance against Nazi Germany.

Prince Bernhard led that resistance after first being suspected of
having Nazi sympathies, which he resolutely denied, despite his brief
service in a German SS brigade. When the Nazis tried to portray the
marriage as an alliance, Queen Wilhelmina, Juliana's mother, declared,
"This is a marriage of my daughter to the man she loves. This is not the
marriage of the Netherlands to Germany."

The prince drove fast cars, skied fearlessly and rode his horses hard,
but business was at least an equal passion. Not only did his business
activities make him one of the richest members of European royalty, but
his apparent acceptance in 1976 of a bribe of more than $1 million from
Lockheed for steering business to the aerospace company, sparked an
international scandal.

Bernhard was born on June 29, 1911, in Jena, Germany, into the princely
family of Lippe, which was founded in the 12th century by the first
Prince Bernhard. The modern prince was named Bernhard Leopold Friedrich
Eberhard Julius Kurt Karl Gottfried Peter Lippe-Biesterfeld of
Lippe-Biesterfeld.

His childhood was spent in the waning days of the splendor of German
nobility. After World War I, German nobility had little left beyond a
ruined castle or two.

Bernhard studied the legal aspects of international trade at
universities in Lausanne, Switzerland, Munich and Berlin, earning his
law degree in Berlin. He joined the staff of the German chemical giant,
I.G. Farben and worked at its offices in Paris, Berlin and Amsterdam.

He met his future wife at the 1936 Olympic Winter Games in Bavaria. They
were married on Jan. 7, 1937, in a simple Calvinist ceremony. The
prince made a simple speech in fluent Dutch promising to study the
country's culture and become a good Dutchman.

At first, his mother-in-law, and certain of her subjects were publicly
critical of his fast driving and absences from church, but his
dignified, effective handling of a variety of government jobs quickly
won him favor. Queen Wilhelmina appreciated his industriousness.

"He wanted to earn his own living, and that was an idea of which I very
much approved," she said in an interview with The New York Times in
1937. "Princes must work nowadays."

In May 1940, Hitler invaded the Netherlands, and the prince joined the
Dutch forces. He was with the last contingent to hold out in the
province of Zeeland.

He then headed the Dutch resistance from London where the Dutch
government and Queen Wilhelmina resided in exile. His wife left for
Canada with the couple's two daughters, Beatrix, who was born in 1938,
and Irene, born in 1939. A third daughter, Margriet, was born in Canada
in 1943, and a fourth royal daughter, Christina, followed in 1947.

Bernhard is survived by all his daughters and more than 20 grandchildren and great-grandchildren, the Associated Press reported.

During his last years,
he freely gave his opinion about many topics,
saying, among other things, that
he had "a completely clear conscience"
about the Lockheed affair.

He had stepped down from all his business and government posts,
as well as the presidency of the wildlife group,
at the time of the scandal.


For years, despite intermittent controversies, he claimed to have tried to keep his profile low.

"With gossipmongers so eager to seize upon every possible incident and
rumor, it is important that a prince conduct himself with circumspection
- and develop a skin as tough as an elephant's," he wrote in Collier's
magazine in 1953.

And Bernhard knew something about elephants.
In the mid-1950's, he advised that
they should be shot at no more than 25 yards

and rhinoceroses at no more than 30
to lessen chances that they will be wounded.

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Post  MoMo Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:18 am


The Science provided at Sinai lo, thos many years ago, has been proven in modern Scientific Labouratories to be 100% correct. thumbs up

Not 80%, not 90%, 100%.


The Genesis Enigma.
An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Leviticus XI and Deuteronomy http://balmofgilead.info/Macht1953.pdf[/quote]



yeah, but...be that as it may.............this is a: POST Conspiracy Forum. Let's all do our best to shag that baggage as it weighs us down on our Sojourn.

Everything IS Everything

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Who is wise? One who foresees the consequences of their actions.

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There are many Paths, yet the values and the Praxis of the Sojourners will be indicative of the efficacy of said Path.

To understand YHWH and the Book of Job, seek the Rabbis.

Don't be such a literalist, there are 4 levels of understanding every word/verse. IO can't think of any other writings that delve so deep. 4 Levels. Many Paths provide one, sometimes 2 channels of connexion.

Judaism/Torah/Kabbalah provides 3. thumbs up

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Pardes (Jewish exegesis)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardes_(Jewish_exegesis)

The Book of Iyob/Job is a Tour de Force, considered the 6th Book of the Torah. thumbs up

Torah on the Web - Virtual Beit Midrash

http://www.vbm-torah.org/

lillywillys(where is she?) fatal error is not allowing the Rabbis/Teachers explain/Exegesis/Midrash their own Scriptures.

Leads to literalist religious fundamentalism/Absolutism. thumbs up

she's like the Westover Baptist Church foff

Keep in mind, Yahshua haMessiah/Jesus is the spokesperson/endorser of YHWH...............you have misunderstood.Kabbalah: the Revelation of King Messiah YahShua
http://www.agudatbris.com/writtings2010/kabalah_revelation_messiah_yahshua.pdf

The Thirteen Divine Attributes of Mercy, by Rav Ezra Bick
http://www.vbm-torah.org/13.html

Iyob/Job
http://search.freefind.com/servlet/freefind?id=5304605&pageid=r&mode=Match+Any&query=job

A good understanding of what's what is:

Availiable at many libraries.

Kabbalah for the Layman by Rabbi Berg
Kabbalah is the Science of Reality, delivered in the Bible metaphorically/allegorically. thumbs up

Kabbalist Rav Berg draws upon the powerful wisdom of Kabbalah and reveals a startling new view of our universe and the meaning and purpose of our lives. Kabbalah for the Layman Volumes One, Two & Three, are a contemporary approach to a profound and ancient science that provides readers with the extraordinary tools necessary for creating lasting positive changes in their lives.

GOD IS A VERB!
http://www.godisaverb.com/

And this is awesome!

"Thou Shall Prosper: Ten Commandments for Making Money", Rabbi Daniel Lapin
http://www.rabbidaniellapin.com/product.php?id=6

cheers

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literacy, alphabetic literacy. thumbs up

Left Brain + Right brain=Enlightenment.

Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure.
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#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake. thumbs up

What support is there for the claim that God spoke to all the Jewish people at the foot of Mount Sinai?


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/start-of-judaism/

The Torah claims that the entire Jewish nation heard God speak at Sinai, an assertion that has been accepted as part of their nation’s history for over 3,000 years................Two types of stories are part of any national heritage.

The first kind is legends. Included in this category is George Washington’s admission to chopping down the cherry tree, along with his statement, “I cannot tell a lie.” Johnny Appleseed planting apple trees across America with his discarded apple cores is another legend
..........................................What is the difference between legend and history?

A legend is an unverified story. By their very nature legends are unverifiable because they have very few eyewitnesses. Perhaps little George did chop down the cherry tree. We can’t know if it happened. This does not mean that the legend is necessarily false, only that it is unverifiable. No one thinks legends are facts, therefore they are not accepted as reliable history.

History, however, is comprised of events we know actually happened. It is reliable because we can determine if the claimed event is true or false through a number of ways. One key to verification is the assertion that large numbers of eyewitnesses observed the specific event
.....................................SINAI: AN IMPOSSIBLE HOAX

So far we have seen two types of claims—one is unverifiable and the other is inherently false.

Could the revelation at Sinai have been a brilliant hoax, duping millions of people into believing that God spoke to them?
....................SINAI: THE ONLY CLAIM OF NATIONAL REVELATION

Throughout history, tens of thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that God spoke to him or her. All religions that base themselves on some type of revelation share essentially the same beginning: a holy person goes into solitude, comes back to his people, and announces that he has experienced a personal revelation where God appointed him to be His prophet.

Would you believe someone who claims to have received a personal communication from God appointing him or her as God’s new prophet?

Maybe He did. Then again, maybe He didn’t. One can never know. The claim is inherently unverifiable.

Personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion since one can never know if it is indeed true. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy................................There are 15,000 known religions in all of recorded history. Given this inherent weakness, why do all of them base their claim on personal revelation? If someone wanted their religion to be accepted, why wouldn’t they present the strongest, most believable claim possible—i.e. national revelation! It’s far more credible. No one has to take a leap of faith and blindly trust just one person’s word. It is qualitatively better to claim that God came to everyone, telling the entire group that so-and-so is His prophet.

Why would God establish His entire relationship with a nation through one man, without any possibility of verification, and still expect this nation to obediently follow an entire system of instructions, based only on blind faith?

Yet, Judaism is the only religion in the annals of history that makes the best of all claims—that everyone heard God speak. No other religion claims the experience of national revelation. Why?

..................Let’s summarize two primary questions:

1. Out of 15,000 known religions in recorded history, why is Judaism the only one that claims national revelation, the best of all claims? Why do all other religions base themselves on the inherently weak assertion of personal revelation?

2. If Judaism’s claim is indeed an example of a successful hoax that falsely asserts national revelation, the author just got away with passing off the best possible claim, and others will certainly follow suit. Why then would he predict that no one else will ever make a similar claim, a prediction he knows he cannot foresee, and whose outcome is likely to be the exact opposite?

There is one simple answer to both questions. A national revelation—as opposed to personal revelation—is the one lie you cannot get away with. It is one event you cannot fabricate. The only way to make this claim is if it actually happened.

If the claim is true, the people will believe it because they are agreeing to something they already know. Either they personally witnessed it, or their ancestors collectively passed down the account as part of their nation’s accepted history.

If the claim is false, it’s like trying to convince you that God spoke to you or your parents and somehow you never heard of it. No one would ever accept such a claim.

Therefore no other religion has ever made the best of all claims, because it is the one claim that can only be made if it is true. One cannot pass national revelation off as a hoax.

When inventing a religion, the originator must resort to personal revelation, despite its inherent weakness, since it is a claim that is unverifiable. The originator can hope to find adherents willing to take a leap of faith and accept his or her religion. After all, no one can ever know it is a lie. [Of course, no one can know if it’s true either.] This simply cannot work with national revelation since it’s the one claim that everyone will know is a lie.

Only Judaism can claim national revelation since the Jewish people is the only nation in the history of mankind who ever experienced it
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Bullshit can't handle pressure.it is like a bluff in a Poker Game............if I am holding an excellent hand I'll see all your bets/raises and then 'call you'.

When you produce your shit hand and I lay down my Royal Flush Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Royal-flush I'll collect the Ducats. nuthin' personal. thumbs up

There are many other quality Control features in the Bible, but the National Revelation, and Yahshuas/Jesus ministry was Public are significant factors.







Cheers Matey.


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true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.

[size=24]Lilly, your post is proof that you have eyes yet you are blind and do not see. Had you bothered to read and comprehend my Post you would 'see that it is a Public Revelation, not private like your bullshit. thumbs up


Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure. thumbs up

#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake. thumbs up

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Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.


The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds.
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lissen up you ignorant bitch, your Avatar is a deception-you only placed a partial map of europe over the map of Australia. thumbs up

TORAH FOR ALL ISRAELITE NATIONSBy Rabbi/Brother Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky
http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/26.php

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In Bereshith 15:13 Yahuwah prophesies to Avraham that his seed will be strangers in a strange land for 400 years. We learn that the nation enslaving them would be judged, while Abraham’s children would make an exodus with great wealth. Yahuwah uses the 400 years as a general time frame even tough the actual time of slavery was 430 years. In Bereshith 46:4 Yahuwah tells Israel/Yakkov to go down to Mitzrayim in order that Yahuwah can bring to pass the patriarchal promise of physical multiplicity, while Yahuwah promises to be with Yisrael in Mitzrayim. When Yahuwah is with you, no one can be against you or His plan for your life. Yahuwah also promises to return Israel to Canaan, when He brings them up again from Mitzrayim. This promise is confirmed to Yisrael in Bereshith 28:15.

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Yisrael was to be set-apart by their prophesied exodus from Egypt, and in order to seal their set-apartness from all nations, they were to be given a Torah or a set of loving instructions. According to Devarim/Deut. 4:6, all nations would then see that “only a wise (spiritual), and understanding people was this GREAT (physical) nation. Israel was brought forth, and set-apart to shine before men. In like manner Yahshua renewed that call in Matityahu 5:13-14. Torah would become their wisdom after the presentation of Torah to Yisrael on Horeb. When Israel obeys Yahuwah’s ways, all nations will confess our greatness, and our favor before man and Yahuwah. On Sinai/Horeb Yahuwah betrothed Himself to Yisrael. This betrothal is called an eruzin. It is a pledge unto consummation rather than a consummation act itself. In Tehillim 138:4 the Devar Yahuwah calls on all the earth’s kings, and rulers to give thanks to Yahuwah for His Torah being given to national Israel. The exodus was not merely to remove Israel from bondage but to allow all nations, and all kings of all nations to hear the Words of Yahuwah known as Torah. Our sages have taught us that at first Yahuwah revealed, and offered his chesed/grace to the sons of Esau/Edom, as it is written in Devarim 33:2. But they rejected Yahuwah, even though He rose up first to offer Torah to Esau. However Esau rejected the Torah from Sinai, when Yahuwah “rose in Seir” only to be denied. Then Yahuwah offered the Torah to the rest of the sons of Ishmael symbolized by Mt. Paran, who according to Devarim 33:2-3, also rejected the “shining forth” of Torah from Sinai, even though the manifestation of fire accompanied it, along with myriads of melachim/angels!

“HEBREW-NATIONAL” ADAM

When Edom and Ishmael rejected the Torah, Yahuwah then turned to His second son, the second Adam or national Adam. That, among a myriad of other reasons is why most of the modern Arabs hate Israel, (both houses) since they rejected the true Word of Yahuwah, which Israel later accepted. Ultimately the Arabs adopted the false words of a man made deity called Allah. Not only do Edomites hate Israel for accepting the living oracles, they also hate Israel (Jews and most Christians) for having accepted the “living Torah”, the Messiah Yahshua Himself. Today’s Muslims have once again rejected the living Torah, (true biblical Yahshua as Yahuwah’s ONLY brought forth SON!) as their Edomite and Ishmaelite forefathers rejected the living oracles shining forth from Sinai. Even today Muslims claim that Gabriel gave the latter revelation of the Koran, to Mohammed in large part to CORRECT THE ERRORS OF TORAH that the Jews and Christians added when they corrupted the Torah’s truth! Nothing much has changed in the last 3,500 years.........................

Everything you need to remediate your ignorance concerning the Lost Tribes. thumbs up

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From FULL RESTORATION OF ALL ISRAEL series
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home

Full Restoration Of Israel!
Part I of a Series


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In Genesis 13:14-16 Yahuwah our Heavenly Father promised Abram the land of Canaan as well as a promise of physical multiplicity of his zera or his seed (sperm). Abram was told that this promise of physical multiplicity will be so vast and so extensive that the entire earth will literally be full of his zera. Verse 16 reminds us that at the time that this promise is literally and physically brought to pass it will be absolutely impossible for mankind to even count it, or in any way census it, since mankind is totally impotent and unable to count the dust of the earth. This promise is straightforward, needing absolutely no interpretation or explanation. That same seed will inherit the land eventually to be known as Israel.

In Genesis 15 verses 1-6 we see Abram willing to help Yahuwah fulfill the promise of Genesis 13 by prematurely and incorrectly choosing Eliezer, a Gentile, who is not a physical offspring of Abram's own sperm or zera, to be the one through whom that promise would be brought to pass. However Yahuwah rebukes Abram and makes it clear to him that His promise of physical multiplicity that would become a number that man would not be able to number would not come through an adopted Gentile or a second class choice. No! Our Heavenly Father ordained that this promised heir would come from Abram's own body. He would not be adopted but he would be a physical descendent of Abram. It is through this physical descendent that Yahuwah once again promises Abram that his physical offspring will be more than the stars of Heaven. Obviously through modern science we know that our solar system has billions of stars and of course that other solar systems have many more billions. These stars in totality produce a number that mankind cannot even fathom. Yahuwah challenges Abram's lack of ability in counting the stars with the words "if you can" in verse five. It is because of Abram's pure faith and trust in Yahuwah that he receives imputed righteousness as a result of his believing and trusting in Yahuwah's promise. Notice there is only one promise not many promises. Abram was declared righteous by faith in Yahuwah's one promise. Whoever this physical seed would turn out to be it would literally have to be more than the dust particles of the sea and the visible stars of heaven. This promise must be taken extremely and solely on a literal face value. Any tendency to somehow spiritualize this promise is a lack of faith in Yahuwah's literal Word. That would be the very opposite of the faith of Abram himself.

This promise of physical multiplicity and blessing is renewed in Genesis 17 verse 4 where Abram is told that this promise will establish him as a father of many nations or "hamon goyim". This term "hamon goyim" is also found in verse 5 and literally means a noisy multitude of Gentile nations. This physical seed that will literally fill the globe will not be a silent group of religious folks, rather they will be a great and noisy multitude making a great noise and tumult about Yahuwah and His gospel love for humanity. Verse 6 of Genesis 17 promises Abraham that through this seed of promise, kings would be manifest. This of course is talking about the kings that would one day make up the royal House of David through whom Messiah would come to His throne. In verse 7 Yahuwah reassures Abraham that this promise of greatness through physical multiplicity would be unconditional and everlasting...................

lilly, your bullshit is played out, you are the elitist, deceiver......do a reality check.
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Europe is larger then Australia, got more of everything. thumbs up

Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


Australia is the Runt Continent, the smallest. thumbs up


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did you know Europe includes Russia east to the Ural mountains? cheers

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Europe try to overlay that on your map of Australia, the Runt Continent, and the entirety of Australia would be obscured. thumbs up

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Notice: North America is 3 times larger then Australia, it's like you have penis envy lillywilly. rolf

lilly, are you capable of understanding the term: RUNT CONTINENT as it pertains to Australia? It means its the SMALLEST Continent.......... thumbs up lmao rolf wave wacky
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true lilly wrote: Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Rc_ep020_07 P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now


I never Posted at ATS, I called your Bluff and you don't even have a pair of Deuces. thumbs up

You're Busted Out, exposed as the fraud bullshit artist you are.

Israel remains the promised land........ thumbs up

Lectures 51a,b......

http://www.vbm-torah.org/jewphi.htm

51a: The Land of Israel

The Paradox

We will now reopen our discussion of the uniqueness of the Land of Israel, the great paradox we have been living since the birth of Judaism in the first pages of the Scriptures. Before God there are no political or geographical boundaries, there are no boundaries of nations or of countries. And yet, the great message of this universalism is expressed in two particularisms, two uniquenesses: the uniqueness of the People and the uniqueness of the Land. The paradox teaches us that uniqueness is the path to universalism. The uniqueness of the Jewish people is part of a plan that will lead us and the nations of the world to the end of days, a plan for the redemption of the entire world. In this plan, the descendants of the Forefathers hold a unique place and position.

This paradox was a focal point of constant debate with many thinkers, particularly those who have stemmed from Judaism and have accepted some of the general principles of our Torah. The Scriptures proclaimed that Avraham would become the father of many nations.
.................. And indeed, many nations have accepted the Torah of the Forefathers. However, many of them wished to accept these principles while erasing the name of the Jews. Sometimes this was done by actual killing of Jews, and generally it was done by stealing their identity, by claiming that they themselves are the true Jewish people.......
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.One can view the land of Israel as the place where the Jewish state resides. This is an instrumental view, in which territory becomes a vehicle. Like a house, a country is a place in which we live, and it constitutes, in the largest sense of the word, a vehicle, a tool necessary for our survival. This is a rational approach, and stands as one the principles of Zionism. This principle implies that Jewish existence in the Diaspora was abnormal and unhealthy, and that the nation must be healed and rehabilitated through Zionism. This can be compared to a cripple who has lost the use of his hands and legs, and who hopes for the return of their powers. The hands and legs represent the two central characteristics of political existence in an independent state. The hands represent the nation's ability to defend itself militarily, while the legs symbolize the connection to the territory. If we were to go in this direction we would reach the territorial basis necessary for the justification of the Zionist idea, and seemingly this would be enough. However, here we must learn the great lesson of the Kuzari.

Let us jump to the end of the book. At the end of the book, the Chaver bids farewell to the king and prepares to journey to the land of Israel. "After these events the Chaver decided to leave the land of the Khazars and journey to Jerusalem." The king is astonished:
"And the departure of the Chaver was difficult for the Kuzari and he spoke to him of it, saying, 'what is there to find in the land of Israel today, since the Holy Presence has left it? And since the closeness of God can be achieved in any location by a pure heart and a strong desire; and why should you place yourself at the peril of the deserts and the seas and the hatred of the various peoples?'" (5:22)

This question of the Kuzari king must amaze us. Since the very first discourse, Rihal has emphasized the significance of the Land of Israel. His journey to the Land of Israel is the necessary and logical result of all he has been saying and writing. If so, why is the Kuzari king surprised? The answer lies in the recognition of a paradox, which is expressed at the end of the book, and sheds a different light upon the entire book. The Chaver had built a Jewish state in the land of the Khazars! Not only that, but his place in that state is comparable to the role of the philosopher, who guides the king in his leadership of the ideal kingdom. We can understand the significance of this ideal state when we read the letter that Hasdai Ibn Shaprut wrote to the Kuzari king. He writes:
"If there is a place where there is a beacon and a kingdom for the exiles of Israel and they are not tyrannized or controlled, and if I knew that this was true, I would despise my own honor and depart from my greatness and desert my family and would speedily go up mountains, over land or sea, until I would reach the place where my lord the king rules to see his greatness and his glory and the residence of his subjects and the superiority of his servants and the repose of the exiles of Israel. And upon seeing his greatness and glory, my eyes would alight and my innards rejoice and my lips would praise the One who had not withheld His bounty from my forlorn nation."

Hasdai Ibn Shaprut, the Jewish minister of the highest personal and political status in the Caliphate in Cordova, claims that he would abandon all of his honor and become a simple subject in the Jewish state in which the Jews have independence. This state has religious significance as well:
"For how can I bleed for the destruction of our glorious House and for the few saved from the sword who went through fire and water, who are but a small remainder and have lost our honor and dwell in exile, and God does not assist us against those who say to us all the day, 'every nation has a kingdom and you have no remembrance in the land.'"

And a Jewish state exists, the kingdom of the Khazars. However, Rihal instructs us through the paradox of his own life and choices. The Chaver abandons a Jewish state, nobility, independence and everything that goes along with it, in order to travel to a place that is under foreign rule. This place is the Land of Israel. Here we learn the great lesson. Our attitude towards the Land of Israel is not one of territory, in which, by chance, a Jewish state exists. We relate to it as our destiny, and view the encounter with it as part of our essence as Jews. Jewish sovereignty and independence are significant, but so is our relationship to the Land of Israel. At the end of the book we will learn how Rihal envisioned the ultimate return to the Land of Israel and the redemption. Herein lies the mystery and the paradox. The return to the Land of Israel is not a tool or a means. What we have here is here a relationship of encounter, a cosmic meeting of those intended for each other from the beginning of time. Just as it is written that every person's marriage partner is announced in Heaven forty days before his birth, so too it is announced that a particular field in the Land is intended for a particular person. Our Sages wished to teach us the romantic idea that the connection between a couple exists before they meet for the first time, and that their meeting is not a chance occurrence. So too the relationship between the People and the Land is more than a chance occurrence. The relationship was written in the books of destiny.


51b: The Land Of Israel, Part 2

What mysterious force lies behind the relationship of the People and the Land? What makes a particular union successful and unique? Here we enter into theories and models. Rihal attempts to describe it through a unique approach to the climate of the Land of Israel. We find a similar approach in the writings of Rambam. However, he limits the explanation, when he claims that this climate is not unique to the Land but characterizes the entire region. This is actually stated explicitly by Rihal:

"And Ever was the designated progeny of Shem...since his inheritance was the lands of comfortable climates, at the center of which is placed the coveted land, the land of Canaan, the land of prophecy." (1:95)

Thus, we find that the climatic condition is necessary but not sufficient. The Land of Israel is unique in that its climate integrates heat and cold. In other words, it unites the characteristics of those places lacking the conditions for creating a great civilization and a sophisticated culture. And indeed, both the inception and the development of civilization took place in the temperate climates.

Beyond the geographical conditions there is a mystical reality, a spiritual uniqueness of the Land, which makes it a place where prophecy can become a reality. The Land of Israel is the destined location of the ultimate encounter between the Jewish nation and God, the place destined for prophecy and redemption.

This approach to the Land of Israel perhaps can only be understood in categories of love. A person can consider a prospective mate according to the size of the dowry or other monetary interests, as a means to advance one's career or one's social status, etc. These are purely rational reasons. However, we all know that this is not enough, and justifiably so. Beyond these things we expect something more, something irrational and emotional, something we can only describe as love. The word love describes the relationship between the People and the Land. The book of Bereshit describes how the Great Matchmaker, the Creator himself, took Avraham, the father of the Jewish nation, and brought him to the Land of Israel. There he would found his nation, and there the great encounter between the Jewish people and God will ultimately take place. The encounter between the People and the Land is also a condition of redemption.

Thank God, for us no contradiction exists between the instrumental approach and what we might term the romantic approach. We must realize how fortunate we are, to live in the age where, after so much trial and suffering, these approaches finally merge. The distinction between the two approaches to the People and the Land was illustrated through a historical dilemma: Uganda or Palestine? The instrumental approach demanded searching for territory somewhere. This was called the territorial position. It was opposed by the position that spoke about the Land of Israel. Both approaches are important, and the Kuzari state and the other Jewish states that arose in the Diaspora were not a crime, but neither did they bring salvation. There were many Jews who did not think it a crime to live in the Diaspora but who considered the creation of a Jewish state in the Diaspora a betrayal of their allegiance to the Land of Israel.

These issues are important because of their current implications. We are faced with dilemmas that center around the ideals of the redemption of the People and of the Land. We will not enter into politics here. Politics means solving these dilemmas in a particular way. However, understanding the dilemmas is beyond politics. We must always be aware of the two-sidedness of our relationship to the Land. On the one hand, the instrumental relationship to a home, and on the other hand, the relationship to something that cannot be replaced. This relationship is represented in the Scriptures and in later literature by the classic image of the relationship to a mother. The Land is perceived as a mother to some individuals, and as a wife to the nation. We express this relationship through loyalty, love and respect.

The Land of Israel

As we have seen, the content of Jewish thought focuses around three central points: Creation, Revelation and Redemption. History is a process with many twists and turns; however, it ultimately leads us from Creation to Redemption through Revelation.

The Land of Israel symbolizes creation. The Land of Israel is also the land of prophecy.

The sacrifice of Yitzchak connects to the second point: Revelation. Just as Avraham was called to the Land of Israel from a foreign country, "Go ... to the land that I will show you" (Bereshit 12:1), so too he is called forth after entering the Land of Israel: "Go ... to one of the mountains that I will show you" (ibid. 22:2).

Here, too, Avraham follows the call to a place that he does not know, and only when he reaches it does God inform him that this is the place that God had destined for the great drama of the sacrifice of Isaac. Avraham's going reveals the holiness within the holiness. Avraham learned to recognize the holiness of the Land of Israel when he reached it. The holiness of Jerusalem had to be revealed much later, at the final trial.

The mount of the sacrifice, say the Scriptures, is the "mountain where God appeared," the place of revelation, the encounter with God. On this mountain the Temple will be built, the Temple in which man will encounter the Divine Presence. The Scriptures themselves are aware of the paradox in this claim. In king Shlomo's prayer in the Book of Melakhim we read,
"For can it be that God resides on the earth, behold the heavens and the highest firmaments cannot contain You, how can this House I have built [contain You]?" (Melakhim I, 8:27)

However, divine transcendence left room also for the immanence that is connected to "this place...and You will hearken from the heavens" (ibid. 8:29-32).

Revelation is expressed in two ways: in the personal encounter, and in the collective revelation of the Torah. Next to the Temple sat the Great Court, whose role was to teach Torah to the entire people of Israel.

The third point that is encompassed in Jerusalem is connected to the future: the Redemption. This idea means the triumph of good in the various circles of human activity: the national, the human-universal and the cosmic.

The national redemption is the return of the Jewish people to their Land. When the Jew prays for redemption, he prays to the God who "will rebuild Jerusalem," and adds, "may our eyes witness Your merciful return to Jerusalem. Blessed are You God, who will return His Presence to Zion." The redemption is the renewed meeting of the three: the People, the Land and the Divine Presence, the divine immanence.

Jerusalem is also the axle upon which the human-universal redemption turns as well. The mountain that was the center of spiritual heights for the Jewish people will become a center of inspiration and education for the entire world.
"And in the end of days the mount of the house of God will be placed above all mountains and rise above all hills and all the nations will swarm towards it. And many nations will go saying, come let us go up to the mountain of God, to the House of the God of Ya'akov, and He will teach us of His ways and we will follow in His paths, for Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of God from Jerusalem." (Yishayahu 2:2-3)

The particularism of the choosing of a People and a Land are thus merged with absolute universalism. The People and the Land preserved the Torah, so that it would spread among all the nations, and whose central expression is universal peace: "And they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks, nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they study war any more" (ibid. 2:4).

In Jewish tradition, Jerusalem is also the center of the cosmic redemption. Yishayahu's vision, "and the wolf shall dwell with the lamb" (Yishayahu 11:6) is obviously an allegory for the ideal international relations that will reign in the messianic era. However, it is also a hint at a religious utopia, in which even the natural reality will change.

Various verses in Yechezkel hint at future changes in Jerusalem. A spring will gush from it, and from it powerful rivers will stream forth, which will even heal the Dead Sea. Clearly, these are references to the ancient Garden of Eden.

And indeed certain commentators have understood it in this way. According to their interpretation, the Garden that God planted in Eden underwent a catastrophic change as a result of the sin; however, with the advent of the redemption it will revert to its original state. The Garden of Eden is the Land of Israel, and its center is Jerusalem.

If this motif exists in the Scriptural tradition, then the symbolism of the Holy Temple can be understood in its light as well. At its center, as in the Garden of Eden, the Keruvim protected the Tree of Life, which is none other than the Torah - the word of God.


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...............................lilly, you are promoting one of the sickest, must deranged and repugnant doctrines.

Church Replacement Theology...........you call it 'Spiritual Israel'. That is a lie, deceit, fraud.
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'Spiritual Israel' is any Gentile who accepts and agrees that YHWH has Blessed Abraham and his progeny with an Eternal Covenant blessing them and the ownership of Canaan/Israel for eternity.

Definition

http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”

Perhaps Martin Luther articulated this position most eloquently when he wrote: “For such ruthless wrath of God is sufficient evidence that they [i.e., the Jewish people] assuredly have erred and gone astray. Even a child can comprehend this. For one dare not regard God as so cruel that he would punish his own people so long, so terrible, so unmercifully … Therefore this work of wrath is proof that the Jews, surely rejected by God, are no longer his people, and neither is he any longer their God” (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], p. 265).

Common threads that weave their way through the numerous variations of supersessionism are (1) that God is finished with Israel as a nation, and (2) that the promises He made to Israel in the Old Testament have been inherited by the Church. (However, most Replacement theologians are reluctant to say that the Church - which is largely in apostasy today - has also inherited the curses and judgments that God pronounced on Israel for her apostasy.)

One defender of Replacement Theology writes: “The Jewish nation no longer has a place as the special people of God; that place has been taken by the Christian community which fulfills God’s purpose for Israel” (Bruce Waltke, “Kingdom Promises as Spiritual,” in Continuity and Discontinuity: Perspectives on the Relationship Between the Testaments, Ed. John S. Feinberg [Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 1987] p. 275). This is how one evangelical theologian summarized the essence of supersessionism in a paper he presented at the Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting a few years ago: “The issue is whether national Israel as an administrative structure is still in the plan of God” (“A Future for Israel in Covenant Theology: The Untold Story” by R. Todd Mangum, Instructor in Historical and Systematic Theology at Biblical Theological Seminary in Hatfield, Pennsylvania [November 16, 2000], p. 20.

Theological Basis

Replacement Theology is closely associated with Reformed (or Covenant) Theology, the brand of theology historically linked to John Calvin (1509-1564) and the Protestant Reformation. Reformed/Covenant Theology, in turn, is closely associated with amillennialism, an eschatological view with a spiritualized (rather than literal-historical) interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures. The natural affinity these views (that is, Replacement Theology and amillennialism) seem to have for each other is understandable because Replacement Theology relies so heavily on a non-literal and allegorical interpretation of the biblical promises to Israel.

Although many of the early Reformers and Puritans - including even Calvin himself - wrote about the nation of Israel one day being restored by the grace of God and experiencing a national regeneration, that is an increasingly marginalized, minority view in Reformed Christianity today (which is ironic, since we have seen the amazing rebirth of the nation of Israel, just as the Word of God predicted!). And even among those who allow for an end-time work of the Spirit of God among the Jewish people, there is still a reluctance to acknowledge that God is not finished with His people Israel as a nation, or to acknowledge the prospect of a future Kingdom on the Earth.

This view stands in contrast to the teachings of Dispensational Premillennialism, which affirms the continuing role that Israel plays (in tandem with the Church) in the outworking of God’s plan of redemption.

Historical Roots

Elements of Replacement Theology can be traced as far back as Marcion (A.D. 160), who carried on a theological crusade to purge the Church of what he perceived to be dangerous Jewish errors and influences. Later, many of these same anti-Judaic sentiments found their way into the thinking (and writings) of the Early Church fathers. Irenaeus (c. 180), for instance, wrote, “The Jews have rejected the Son of God and cast Him out of the vineyard when they slew Him. Therefore, God has justly rejected them and has given to the Gentiles outside the vineyard the fruits of its cultivation” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Ed. Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, [1885-1887], Volume 1, p. 493).

Over time, statements like these became the basis for full-blown anti-Semitism in some sectors of Christianity. Anything Jewish was renounced as an attempt to subvert and “Judaize” the Church. Teachings like chiliasm (millenarianism), for instance, were denounced as “Jewish fables.” The Early Church, which was clearly and undeniably Jewish, was described as “primitive,” unenlightened, and beset by erroneous notions that were carry-overs from ancient Judaism.

By the seventh century, Jewish people who came to faith in the Messiah were required to denounce their Jewish ancestry and heritage before they could be baptized. Professor Paul Halsall of Fordham University cites the following Visigoth profession from c. A.D. 680-687: “I do here and now renounce every rite and observance of the Jewish religion, detesting all its most solemn ceremonies and tenets that in former days I kept and held. In future I will practice no rite or celebration connected with it, nor any custom of my past error, promising neither to seek it out or perform it. In the name of this Creed, which I truly believe and hold with all my heart, I promise that I will never return to the vomit of Jewish superstition. Never again will I fulfill any of the offices of Jewish ceremonies to which I was addicted, nor ever more hold them dear. I altogether deny and reject the errors of the Jewish religion, casting forth whatever conflicts with the Christian Faith, and affirming that my belief in the Holy Trinity is strong enough to make me live the truly Christian life, shun all intercourse with other Jews and have the circle of my friends only among honest Christians. With them or apart from them I must always eat Christian food, and as a genuinely devout Christian go often and reverently to Church. I promise also to maintain and embrace with due love and reverence the observance of all the Lord’s days or feasts for martyrs as declared by the piety of the Church, and upon those days to consort always with sincere Christians, as it behooves a pious and sincere Christian to do. Herewith is my profession of faith and belief as given by me on this date …” (“Professions of Faith Extracted from Jews on Baptism,’ from the Internet Medieval Sourcebook compiled by Professor Paul Halsall of Fordham University [www.fordham.edu/halsall/sources/jewish-oaths.html]).

The incredible irony here is that only a few centuries earlier, the Church had been almost exclusively Jewish! The Messiah was Jewish; the writers of the Bible were Jewish; the apostles were Jewish; the earliest Christians were Jewish; the first congregation was Jewish (located in Jerusalem); and the first missionaries were Jewish!

In fact, a council of Church leaders - including Paul, Barnabas, Peter and James - was convened at Jerusalem (Acts 15) so the leaders of the new and growing Messianic Movement (known first as “the sect of the Nazarenes,” Acts 24:5) could decide upon what conditions non-Jews would be admitted into the fellowship of the saints! But here, within just a few generations, the shoe was already on the other foot! Non-Jews were in control of the Church now. Jewish doctrines (the earthly Kingdom in particular) were considered erroneous and even seditious. And non-Jewish Church leaders were laying down the terms for Jewish believers in Jesus who wished to be baptized.

Exegetical Problems with Supersessionism

Did the sins of the Jewish nation result in her rejection? Paul’s answer is found in Romans 11: I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom He foreknew (vv. 1-2, NKJV). I say then, have they [Israel] stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! (vv. 11-12, NKJV). For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (v. 15, NKJV).

If the Jewish nation has no future in God’s plan, as the supersessionists claim, then what is the future “fullness” of Israel that Paul mentions in verse 12? And when, exactly, will the nation be resurrected (“life from the dead”) and “accepted” by God (verse 15)? Paul can’t be talking about the Church in this passage because the Church has never died - and never will (John 11:26). The only reasonable answer is that Paul is referring to a yet-future resurrection and restoration of Am Israel (the “people of Israel,” a collective term for the nation), as prophesied in passages like Ezekiel 37:1-14. It doesn’t mean they will automatically be saved simply because they are Jewish; rather, it means that the majority of Jewish people who are living at that time will recognize Yeshua of Nazareth as their Messiah and receive Him as Savior (Zechariah 12:10, Romans 11:26).

They will be saved in the same way believers from all ages and generations have been saved; that is, they will be saved by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-10). The problem with saying that God rejected His people Israel is that the term “rejection” implies permanence and finality. Paul’s forceful statements in Romans 11 probably indicate that people were claiming, even in his day, that God had “cast away” His people Israel (v. 1). They were saying that Israel had “stumbled’ and “fallen” from her former position (vv. 11-12). Paul rejected any such notion (“Certainly not!” in verses 1 and 11). Then he goes on to say that even if we insist on saying that they were rejected, then we are forced to the conclusion that the rejection is only temporary. Even if we insist on saying that they did stumble and fall, then it must also be said that their fall brought salvation to the rest of the world (Gentiles) - and Israel’s fall, too, is only temporary because they are destined to be restored one day to a position of “fullness” (v. 12).

The “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom. 11:25) refers to the time when the full number of non-Jewish believers has been added to the ranks of the Church and the last person has been saved. Likewise, the “fullness” of the Jewish people (v. 12) refers to the time when “all Israel shall be saved” (v. 26). As we saw earlier, that means the Jewish people en masse will recognize and receive their Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. There may be some dissenters - and their probably will be - but the Holy Spirit of God will do a powerful work among the Jewish people, and multitudes of them - the vast majority of them - will come to faith in the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth.

The truth is that God is no more finished with Israel than He is finished with the Gentiles. Neither one has been replaced by the other; and God’s plan for both remains intact, in spite of their failures. This is really the crux of the issue. Replacement Theology says that Israel was rejected by God and that the rejection was permanent and irrevocable; however, we say that God’s calling on Israel was permanent and irrevocable, in spite of her many sins and shortcomings (Romans 11:29)

What Did the Apostles Believe About the Millennium?

Another problem for supersessionism and amillennialism is that these views are not in harmony with the teachings of the Apostles and the Early Church. Almost without exception, Church historians agree that chiliasm, an early form of premillennialism, was the position of the Early (Jewish) Church. In his classic, encyclopedic History of the Christian Church, Philip Schaff wrote, “The most striking point in the eschatology of the ante-Nicene Age [A.D. 100-325] is the prominent chiliasm, or millenarianism, … a widely current opinion of distinguished teachers, such as Barnabas, Papias, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Methodius, and Lactantius …” (Scribner, 1884; Vol. 2, p. 614).

What’s interesting about this admission is that it comes from someone who was neither evangelical nor premillennial. Schaff, in fact, was himself an ardent supersessionist! He wrote, “The carnal Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament is a diabolical perversion. The Christians, and not the Jews, are the true Israel of God and the righteous owners of the Old Testament Scriptures” (Ibid., Sec. 167, “Barnabas”). Yet as a student of history and as a scholar, he had to acknowledge that chiliasm was “prominent” in the Early Church, even though he himself despised it.

It should be noted that Papias (who believed in a future, earthly Kingdom) was a disciple of Polycarp, who in turn was a disciple of the Apostle John who actually penned the passages in the Book of Revelation about the Millennial Kingdom. Premillennialism, then, may be the only eschatological system with an unbroken link directly to the author of the Apocalypse. This means that amillennialism represents a departure from what the Early Church believed. Augustine (354-430), author of City of God, a 22-volume defense of his theological views, proposed ideas similar to what we know as amillennialism (Books 15 to 19). However, even Augustine started out as a premillennialist! It wasn’t until later in his life that he decided that the prophecies about (and promises to) Israel should be interpreted symbolically and applied to the Church, rather than being interpreted literally and applied to Israel.

The Sticking Point: Messiah’s Millennial Monarchy

Evangelicals have been busy for years trying to hammer out an understanding between premillennial dispensationalists and adherents of Reformed/Covenant Theology. Dispensationalists who have been actively pursuing this agenda (and making concessions to the opposing view) are known as “progressive dispensationalists.” The one point, however, that continues to be a fly in the ointment of reconciliation is the Millennial Kingdom. Even Covenant theologians who allow for an end-time mass conversion of the Jewish people still have difficulty accepting Israel’s role in a future, literal Kingdom on the Earth. This shows just how diverse amillennialism and premillennialism are and how difficult it is to bridge the gap between them without seriously compromising one or the other.

Why Is This Error Dangerous?

Is Replacement Theology really worth arguing about? Or is this discussion much ado about nothing? One reason it’s important to call attention to questionable theology, no matter how deeply entrenched it may be in traditional Christianity is that sooner or later, bad theology always leads to bad practice - and in this case, it already has! Replacement Theology has provided the basis for all sorts of mischief, persecution, and atrocities against the Jewish people throughout Christian history.

For example, Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant Reformation, was a supersessionist. Near the end of his life, he said that synagogues and Jewish schools should be burned to the ground, Jewish people run out of their homes, their prayer books and Talmudic writings burned, and the rabbis forbidden to preach or teach on penalty of death (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], pp. 268-271). Luther also declared that Jewish people in Germany should be confined to their own homes and neighborhoods - a plan the Nazis implemented literally when they quarantined Jewish families in ghettos in Poland and other places before shipping them to the death camps for extermination. One historian writes: It is difficult to understand the behavior of most German Protestants in the first Nazi years unless one is aware of two things: their history and the influence of Martin Luther. The great founder of Protestantism was both a passionate anti-Semite and a ferocious believer in absolute obedience to political authority. He wanted Germany rid of the Jews. Luther’s advice was literally followed four centuries later by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler (William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich [New York: Simon & Shuster, 1960], p. 236).

No one is suggesting that anyone who believes in Replacement Theology is an anti-Semite or would agree with Luther’s statements. That would be an unfair characterization - and it certainly is not the case. It is important, nevertheless, to examine the implications and ramifications of any position, including Replacement Theology: and it is an incontestable fact that ideas similar to those of Replacement Theology have inspired some horrible atrocities against the Jewish people.

We’re Making Progress!

As we observed earlier, the term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new, and is generally avoided by adherents of supersessionism. As far as they are concerned, they’re simply espousing traditional theology - and in a sense, they are! Supersessionist ideas have been widely accepted in mainstream Christianity since the third century or so, as mainstream Christianity was gradually losing its original Jewish character. The Gentile powers-that-be in early institutional (Eastern and Western) Christianity wanted to distance themselves from Christianity’s Jewish origins. And they did!

The good new is that slowly but surely we’re making progress in our battle against Replacement Theology. Everywhere we go, all over the world, (even Arab countries!), we find believers who acknowledge Israel’s unique and ongoing place in God’s plan of the ages, and who are anxiously awaiting that Golden Age when, for the first time, “they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the Earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isa. 11:9).

Most Baptists today are premillennial (except for the most liberal Baptist denominations), as are many Bible churches, particularly those associated with IFCA (Independent Fundamental Churches of America) International and similar groups of independent churches. There are even premillennial Presbyterians! Our ranks are growing with every day that passes. Much of the opposition comes from the more liberal, mainline denominations and their seminaries. And it’s not merely coincidental that these are the same churches and institutions that are aligned with the anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian World and National Councils of Churches.

If you’d like to know if your church leaders believe in Replacement Theology, ask them! If they are not familiar with the term, be patient because it’s entirely possible that they have never heard it before, even if they attended seminary. Also, it’s not likely that they’ve ever knowingly aligned themselves with any view that’s anti-Semitic, anti-Judaic or anti-Israel. This may all be new to them! Ask them, very humbly and sincerely, if they believe that God rejected Israel when Israel rejected His Son in the first century and that as a result, He has no future plan or purpose for the Jewish nation. They may reply that yes, of course, Jewish people can be saved and join the Church - and to them, that means God has a plan for the Jewish people. However, that’s not what we’re asking. We want to know if they believe that God is no longer dealing with the Jewish nation - and don’t be surprised if the answer, ultimately, is in the affirmative. After all, as we saw earlier, this has been the predominant view of mainstream Christianity for centuries - roughly since the time of Augustine, in fact. Sadly, this view has become normative in much of the Church, including many denominations and their seminaries.

Let’s not be afraid to challenge theological tradition when it’s wrong. It’s our responsibility to proclaim and defend the premillennial hope of the Church - and the nation of Israel - in these days of widespread error and apostasy. We should encourage our premillennial Bible colleges and seminaries to take a stand on Replacement Theology and challenge them to produce graduates who are knowledgeable about the historical and theological issues Replacement Theology encompasses. There’s a lot we can do, and we should be doing all we can!



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Last night, I had another one of my old re-occurring dreams,
and this time the difference was that many had discovered
what a wonderful land it was that I had made my home in -
in the mountains, of gently rolling green hills and valleys,
and it was lambing season, the hills were full of lambs,
so many that the wolves came chasing in amongst them,
trying to pick them off, but there were enough of us living
there now, for the lambs to run to, and wolves would not
come following the lambs into the valley of the people, who
had opened many, good food, good company, eateries in
this beautiful country, where after the excitement of the
rushing wolves, we all went to our homes showered, rested
then gathered to share our meals and joy at living in such
a blessed and beautiful land.

But the odd thing about the wolves - they were not like
natural flesh, hairy or reddish, but hard, sharp coated,
blackish, metallic beasts. They simply did not fit the scene.
Even the tractors that seemed to dance as they worked the
gentle hills, had more soft, 'life' to them, than 'those wolves'.

Then this morning, the first place I opened God's Word at:

Ezekiel 36


1
Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel,
and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD:

2
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha,
even the ancient high places are ours in possession:

3
Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Because they have made you desolate, and
swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be
a possession unto the residue of the heathen,
and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers,
and are an infamy of the people:

4
Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word
of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains,
and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys,
to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken,
which became a prey and derision to the residue of
the heathen that are round about;

5
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against
the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea,
which have appointed my land into their possession
with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds,
to cast it out for a prey.

6
Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel,
and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers,
and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury,
because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:

7
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen
that are about you, they shall bear their shame.

8
But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth
your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel;
for they are at hand to come.

9
For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you,
and ye shall be tilled and sown:

10
And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel,
even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited,
and the wastes shall be builded:

11
And I will multiply upon you man and beast;
and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you
after your old estates, and will do better unto you
than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

12
Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel;
and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance,
and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.

13
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you,
Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations:

14
Therefore thou shalt devour men no more,
neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.

15
Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame
of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach
of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations
to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD.

16
Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

17
Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land,
they defiled it by their own way and by their doings:
their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

18
Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood
that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols
wherewith they had polluted it:

19
And I scattered them among the heathen,
and they were dispersed through the countries:
according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

20
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went,
they profaned my holy name, when they said to them,
These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.

21
But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel
had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

22
Therefore say unto the house of Israel,
thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes,
O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake,
which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

23
And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned
among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them;
and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD,
saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you
before their eyes.

24
For I will take you from among the heathen,
and gather you out of all countries,
and will bring you into your own land.

25
Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you,
and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness,
and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26
A new heart also will I give you,
and a new spirit will I put within you:
and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh,
and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk
in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28
And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers;
and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

29
I will also save you from all your uncleannesses:
and I will call for the corn, and will increase it,
and lay no famine upon you.

30
And I will multiply the fruit of the tree,
and the increase of the field, that ye shall
receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

31
Then shall ye remember your own evil ways,
and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves
in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

32
Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD,
be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded
for your own ways, O house of Israel.

33
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
In the day that I shall have cleansed you
from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell
in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.

34
And the desolate land shall be tilled,
whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.

35
And they shall say, This land that was desolate
is become like the garden of Eden;
and the waste and desolate and ruined cities
are become fenced, and are inhabited.

36
Then the heathen that are left round about you
shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places,
and plant that that was desolate:
I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.

37
Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of
by the house of Israel, to do it for them;
I will increase them with men like a flock.

38
As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem
in her solemn feasts;
so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men:
and they shall know that I am the LORD.


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Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
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"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
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THE EARTH"
...

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SEE!!!
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ON This COMPARISON
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...ah, but it's THIS
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Comparison of the size of
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Note: Israel is shown in blue.

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Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...




The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.

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These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
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For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

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UNlike ...

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...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
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It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
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Post  MoMo Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:29 am

true lilly wrote:Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"
...

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australia2

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australia_Includes
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON
.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!
...?


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Upside_down_map

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 5448228707_82db33acd0

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 5448228729_35dc3b73c2

...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...

Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australi
Note: Israel is shown in blue.

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australia_israel
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...




The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 2.21-Australia-over-the-wor
LIE #1: These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.

LIE #2: For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.

It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page

Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH,
STABLE LAND...

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UNlike ...

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...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
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It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
Rolling Eyes

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Refuting lillys Lies #s 1 & 2 thumbs up

http://geography.about.com/od/lists/a/largecontinent.htm

Largest Continents in Area
1. Asia - 17,139,445 square miles (44,391,162 square km)
2. Africa - 11,677,239 square miles (30,244,049 square km)
3. North America - 9,361,791 square miles (24,247,039 square km)
4. South America - 6,880,706 square miles (17,821,029 square km)
5. Antarctica - About 5,500,000 square miles (14,245,000 square km)
6. Europe - 3,997,929 square miles (10,354,636 square km)

7. Australia - 2,967,909 square miles (7,686,884 square km)


Australia is the Smallest, the Runt Continent. thumbs up

The map of Europe lilly superimposes on Australia is NOT the whole continent. Compare the Reality as compared to her lie. thumbs up

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Well it is obvious you are Anti-Israel and Antisemitic. Let's see your source for your Area Sizes you Posted. I'm calling your Bluff. Again thumbs up
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true lilly wrote:
Get ready for more TORAH SPAM......poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...

SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?

...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia

Note: Israel is shown in blue.

Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...

What an ignorant douchebag. thumbs up

49e: Cinderella, part 5:
http://www.vbm-torah.org/jewphi.htm
Exile and Redemption


I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.

We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,

"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."

This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.

The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when

"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)

A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.

"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)

Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.

And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."

The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.

Cinderella and her sisters

Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.

Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.


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Yoo Hoo!!! lilly, You are the Antisemite seeking to steal the Jews Identity and their Book, The Bible; and misrepresenting it.

1: You promote the bogus Doctrine of 'Church/Spiritual Israel' Replacement Theology, claiming that YHWH/God has abandoned the Jews and the Eternal Covenant He made with them and their Land, Israel.
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http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

Replacement Theology

Its Origins, Teachings and Errors


Definition

Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”..........................Exegetical Problems with Supersessionism

Did the sins of the Jewish nation result in her rejection? Paul’s answer is found in Romans 11: I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom He foreknew (vv. 1-2, NKJV). I say then, have they [Israel] stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! (vv. 11-12, NKJV). For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (v. 15, NKJV).

If the Jewish nation has no future in God’s plan, as the supersessionists claim, then what is the future “fullness” of Israel that Paul mentions in verse 12? And when, exactly, will the nation be resurrected (“life from the dead”) and “accepted” by God (verse 15)? Paul can’t be talking about the Church in this passage because the Church has never died - and never will (John 11:26). The only reasonable answer is that Paul is referring to a yet-future resurrection and restoration of Am Israel (the “people of Israel,” a collective term for the nation), as prophesied in passages like Ezekiel 37:1-14. It doesn’t mean they will automatically be saved simply because they are Jewish; rather, it means that the majority of Jewish people who are living at that time will recognize Yeshua of Nazareth as their Messiah and receive Him as Savior (Zechariah 12:10, Romans 11:26).

They will be saved in the same way believers from all ages and generations have been saved; that is, they will be saved by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-10). The problem with saying that God rejected His people Israel is that the term “rejection” implies permanence and finality. Paul’s forceful statements in Romans 11 probably indicate that people were claiming, even in his day, that God had “cast away” His people Israel (v. 1). They were saying that Israel had “stumbled’ and “fallen” from her former position (vv. 11-12). Paul rejected any such notion (“Certainly not!” in verses 1 and 11). Then he goes on to say that even if we insist on saying that they were rejected, then we are forced to the conclusion that the rejection is only temporary. Even if we insist on saying that they did stumble and fall, then it must also be said that their fall brought salvation to the rest of the world (Gentiles) - and Israel’s fall, too, is only temporary because they are destined to be restored one day to a position of “fullness” (v. 12).

The “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom. 11:25) refers to the time when the full number of non-Jewish believers has been added to the ranks of the Church and the last person has been saved. Likewise, the “fullness” of the Jewish people (v. 12) refers to the time when “all Israel shall be saved” (v. 26). As we saw earlier, that means the Jewish people en masse will recognize and receive their Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. There may be some dissenters - and their probably will be - but the Holy Spirit of God will do a powerful work among the Jewish people, and multitudes of them - the vast majority of them - will come to faith in the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth.

The truth is that God is no more finished with Israel than He is finished with the Gentiles. Neither one has been replaced by the other; and God’s plan for both remains intact, in spite of their failures. This is really the crux of the issue. Replacement Theology says that Israel was rejected by God and that the rejection was permanent and irrevocable; however, we say that God’s calling on Israel was permanent and irrevocable, in spite of her many sins and shortcomings (Romans 11:29)

...........



2: Also you promote the Bogus Doctrine that 'Jesus' 'did away with' YHWHs/Gods Torah/Instruction.

Another degenerate lie. All one has to do to see through your lies is to read the Actual Scriptures.
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http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/12-2004-PW.pdf

If you are still tempted to follow some Christian, Moslem, Jewish or Catholic leader into believing that Yahweh’s Laws have been
done away with or can be rewritten to suit whoever, read the following inspired words of the prophets, apostles, and Savior. I Yahchanan 3:4—
. Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law. I Yahchanan 2:4—
. He who says: I know Him, but does not keep His Law, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. I Yahchanan 3:7-8—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil...............................N.otice what the Prophet Yeremyah was inspired to write in: Yeremyah 23:26-27—
26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds;
27 Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his
neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal; Lord.................... Romans 10:4—For Yahshua is the ultimate result of keeping the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes.......................... Mattithyah 24:11-12—11 And many false prophets will rise, and will deceive the many.
12 And because iniquity; the breaking of Yahweh’s Law, will abound, the love of the many will grow cold.

Please notice in the above verses that the Savior is saying that these religions are teaching people to practice and abound in
breaking Yahweh’s Laws..................


lilly, you are the proverbial False Prophet!!

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Post  true lilly Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:15 pm

Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"
...


CURSE JUDAH and BE CURSED.


Well,
GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...

and YOU, KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!


Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...

...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...

...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...

(ah, found it elsewhere Smile )

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australia2

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Australia_Includes
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON
.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!
...?


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Upside_down_map

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 5448228707_82db33acd0

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 5448228729_35dc3b73c2

...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...

Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia


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Note: Israel is shown in blue.

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Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...


The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 2.21-Australia-over-the-wor
These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH,
STABLE LAND...and SEE,
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so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...

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YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...


Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 01_map

...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Image006

It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
Rolling Eyes

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THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE

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Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.


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LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA

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National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
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A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898

LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...

https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E

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Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.

It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.

It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made,
according the US space agency NASA .

For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.

NASA noted that Australia
was
the flattest continent in the world.

"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position
near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic
or other geologic forces
of the type
that raise the topography of other continents.

"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,

the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world,
covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.


...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...
RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...
and RE-PLANT
...and... Very Happy Wink

COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...

...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...


DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...

Revelation 22:1-21

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top

1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


2
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.


3
And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:


4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.


6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.


7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.


8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.


9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant,
and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.


11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.


12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.


13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.


14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.


17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...

to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:

the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...

YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
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Very Happy ...I'll see, YOUR POISON FRUIT-LOOPS...and RAISE,
with The GOOD FRUIT (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
that my Faithfulness To THE CREATOR of LIFE,
BLESSED THE WORLD WITH...


How those who dig the pits for others,
fall in them themselves...


Some BEARSTAR's of SWEDEN'S, REX VENTORS...

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Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Magnus_tinja_anaelle
Magnus and his girls, Sept -05
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Tinja equally protective of Angelie
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Demi_lovisa
Lovisa using Demi for a pillow

See, I was happy rescuing, healing and re-homing the lost,
but 'they' thought to tempt my pride, and got me a pedigree dog.

But, I didn't want to show (the horse world had cured me of that),
only breed good dogs to put in loving homes, and so my dogs
had to pass my tests (of safe, sound temperaments, and bodies),
in my home, on the farm, out in public, before they were chosen
as breeders.

The showing and world records that followed, were simply,
GOD'S BLESSINGS for Breeding BY HIS LAW...and oh, how
much 'they' HATED me, FOR ALWAYS GIVING ALL CREDIT TO GOD,
when 'they' would badger me for 'the secret' of my success,
that IS NO SECRET, but Published All Over The World; GOD'S WORD.


true lilly wrote:LOVE and BLESSINGS
https://youtu.be/pP1CCH7DEQM

CRUFTS 2x R.R. BoB

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Ch & Sw Ch Rex Ventors Farrah at NyassaEurope is larger then Australia - Page 2 Web_400_farrah_2nd_100_0807txt









Smile ...ooh, and how many BEARSTAR'S
in that Pedigree...
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http://www.nyassa.co.uk/c%20litter.htm

...see, The Beautiful Thing, was that I didn't want to Show,
only Breed Quality for Future R.R. Lovers, but people were
making terrible dogs 'champion', because they had bugger all
quality to compete with back when I began, which is why I went
to a local show, just to see a few others and how my first R.R.
(first pedigree anything), compared to others...and from then,
I felt, well, Morally Obligated, to Exhibit R.R.'s of Quality.

The Records, well they were just 'The Cherry on Top',
for doing a good job well, for the right reason.

And The Nice Thing, is that I took my last Specialty Wins,
with my last litter, under this English Judge and Breeder,
Sue Campbell (Nyassa), and years latter, she's Winning CRUFTS
with the Bearstar blood she genuinely fell in love with.


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Demi,
(Multi International Titled
Bearstar Diamond Willow
,
dam of 17 Champions inc.
Sue Cambell's CRUFTS
2x BoB Winner, "Farrah")

10 years after I sent her to Sweden,
closest to the camera,
posing with sister Tinja. Summer 2006.

http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/257/337/
http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/32/71/

Gr Ch Bearstar Ko CD FC ROM
Eilack Apollo x Ch Ujamaa Ceres
20 Jan 1992 - 3 Nov 2005

Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Ko_memorial_prone

On the 3rd of November 2005 two and half months short of his 14th birthday my
handsome man spent the morning chasing his grand-niece following that delightful
scent he has always loved, when he grew tired he lay down in the green grass in
the sun and quietly slipped away.

Multi Runner Up in Show, Multi Best in Specialty Show, Multi Runner Up in
Specialty Show, two times Melbourne Royal BOB, Brisbane Royal BOB, Toowoomba
Royal BOB, multi Best Headed in Specialty, multi Best Gaited in Specialty, multi
Sire's Progeny, Australia's first Grand Champion RR - Gr Champion Bearstar Ko CD
FC ROM - left me peacefully with great dignity.

He has left a legacy that ensures his name will remain in the RR history books
for generations to come. As Australia's most successful ever sire he has 30
Champions all over the world and others still in the process of taking titles.
He has sired 10 Best in Show winners, 2 Best in Field winners and even a Gold
medal winner in Skijoring (sleddog skiing). His kids have obedience titles and
tracking titles. And many without 'titles' have the very best of accolades -
being best friends and companions to their owners.

Ko was a very special dog - a once-in-a-lifetime soulmate who provided me love
and laughter every day of his life. He has taken a large part of my heart with
him but his spirit will linger always with me and within his children and their
children long after I'm gone.

Farewell Mister Ko - love you big boy. I know you'll be having a ton of fun at
the Bridge catching up with all your 'women' I so look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.starridgerrs.com/about_starridge.html

Ch Ujamaa Ceres "Barney"
(bred -
under terms of carrying the Ujamaa Prefix-
and kept by, and bred from, me,
from my first R.R. Ch. Ujamaa Pooh "Teddy")

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"Barney" THE QUEEN of Bearstar, "Barkley" and "Chilli",
just 3 of my Bearstar Champs,
(who like "Teddy" and many others,
no one else wanted, and 'experts' said
I was mad for keeping), down home on the farm
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oh and "Chilli", "Banyon and "Clare"...
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...CH Bearstar White Banyon, was born 'dead' and 'couldn't be revived'
according to the Vet and everyone else who tried to rip him from my
busy hands, half an hour later, when they thought I'd gone mad... but,
they couldn't "SEE" what I could; he to went on to be a Best in Show
and many other top awards winner...and "Clare", sent back home to
LIVE 'like a dog' and for me to show, by her owners, was one of my 3,
Border Terrier of The Year winners (only competed for 3 years in that breed),
and yes they all lived in the house, and ran free in the fields and never
bothered stock
Europe is larger then Australia - Page 2 Icon_biggrin . It was all part of how I Judged them Worthy
to Pass On Their Quality of SPIRIT. Oh there are plenty of 'trash'
dogs of the Same BLOODlines, but

what God's explained,
and my breeding Proved, is that
IT IS, THE INDIVIDUAL'S SPIRIT,
that separates='makes holy'.
JACOB was blessed. JACOB was a breeder.

This isn't my, "Blessing of Jacob" post,
but it will do...for now...
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