SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!

Ciggy wrote:Lilly: Shut the hell up about Australia.

Ciggy wrote:Barmy spam.

Gee, 'who' does THIS look like...


User:Mattinbgn
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money."

So, Ciggy-who tells the world
they are all beneath him in smarts-
how much do 'they' pay you to BULL SHIT 24/7?

It's not enough.

The Bulls have had enough of the shit you dribble.

true lilly wrote:What the Enemies of this Glorious land want you to forget,
with their typical, childish, off topic dribble, is that it is these,
leftist, God mockers, pushing their anti-Christ agenda into LAW,
that are, and always have, caused every problem, suffered by all,
wherever they happen to reside, and however 'privileged' they
currently believe themselves to be, through serving the beastly
legions of the death worshiping religions.

Rather telling to, that they finally attacked this thread with their
spam of evil, lies and dribble, to flood over (cover, protect) the
instigator of and participant of the GANG RAPE OF A CHILD.

true lilly wrote:
ATSIC chair Geoff Clark 2002

Clark wrongly sacked from ATSIC,rules court
September 6, 2005 - 12:21PM


Geoff Clark ... the Government must pay his legal costs,
which are expected to run to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

A court ruled today that Aboriginal leader Geoff Clark was
wrongly removed from his job as head of the Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Islander Commission.

But the judges say the decision has little practical bearing as
ATSIC was abolished by the Federal Government last year.

The full court of the Federal Court today dismissed an appeal by
Indigenous Affairs Minister Amanda Vanstone over her sacking of Mr
Clark from the position of chairman of the national indigenous
body.

Chief Justice Michael Black and Justice Mark Weinberg found that
Senator Vanstone failed to properly consider whether Mr Clark's
misbehaviour as ATSIC chairman impacted on his fitness to hold
office.

Senator Vanstone suspended Mr Clark from office on January 22
last year for misbehaviour after he was convicted and fined $750
for obstructing police during a pub fracas in the western Victorian
town of Warrnambool in 2002.

The Federal Government has been ordered to pay Mr Clark's costs,
which are expected to be several hundred thousand dollars.

ABORIGINAL leader Geoff Clark
told a girl who'd just turned 16
he had a present for her before leading a pack of men
in raping her, a
jury heard yesterday.

Clark found guilty of gang rape
January 31, 2007 - 4:33PM

Geoff Clark ... accused of gang rape more than 35 years ago.
Photo: AAP/Shaney Balcombe

A civil jury has found in favour of a woman who accused Aboriginal
leader Geoff Clark of raping her in south-west Victoria more than 35
years ago. The jury has awarded $20,000 in compensatory damages in the
case brought by Carol Anne Stingel, who accused the former ATSIC
chairman of raping her in Warrnambool in 1971. No punitive damages were
awarded.

So that's how that
convicted gang rapist presented himself
for those other trials and as
a Government employed *'aboriginal' leader.

BUT, HOW did he "present" for for 'THAT' "class" action,
that ONLY 9 of the 18 named white skinned *'aboriginals'
took against Murdoch's paper and Andrew Bolt.
(I have to be careful; with over 200 tribes - some of which
still war against each other to this day - some "take offence"
at being called by the wrong tribal name )


Geoff Clark says Andrew Bolt's writing on a range of racial issues
prompted him to take legal action.

GEOFF Clark has admitted that he took part in a class action
against Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt over
the general "tone" of his opinion pieces.

Yeah, well I LIKE "the tone" of THIS:
Coalition promises review of race Act
...but worry...
some other "class" may "take offence" at it,
and get some judge to make a review illegal!

true lilly wrote:'BILLY RUBEN' PUBLICLY BOASTS of
BEING a "POLITICAL ABORIGINAL"...and he is NOT the only one.

And NOW, thanks to This Judgement...

...what's that sound...coming closer, closer, closer to home...
...moo, moo...cluck, cluck...

Class action against columnist Andrew Bolt
succeeds in Federal Court
by: Mark Dunn
From:Herald Sun
September 28, 2011 10:53AM

Bolt breached discrimination a...

Andrew Bolt

Watch
Bolt breached discrimination act - court
A court has found News Limited columnist Andrew Bolt
breached the Racial Discrimination Act.

Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt leaves the Federal Court in Melbourne during an earlier appearance in the case.
AAP

THE assumed right of unfettered freedom of speech was trumped by
laws protecting against racial vilification this morning after the
Federal Court delivered its decision on the controversial "white
Aborigines" case of Pat Eatock v Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt.

Justice Mordy Bromberg found Bolt and the Herald and Weekly Times
contravened the Racial Discrimination Act by publishing two articles on
racial identity which contained "errors in fact, distortions of the
truth and inflammatory and provocative language".

Speaking outside court, Bolt said it was "a terrible day for free speech in this country".

"It is particularly a restriction on the freedom of all Australians to
discusss multiculturalism and how people identify themselves," Bolt
said.

"I argued then and I argue now that we should not insist on the differences between us
but focus instead on what unites us as human beings," Bolt said.

Eatock v Bolt full Federal Court judgment

The columnist said he would read and consider the full judgment before commenting further.

Justice Bromberg said it was important to note his judgment did not forbid
debate or articles on racial identity issues if done "reasonably and in
good faith in the making or publishing of a fair comment".

"Nothing in the orders I make should suggest that it is unlawful for a
publication to deal with racial identification, including by challenging
the genuineness of the identification of a group of people," Justice
Bromberg said.

Ms Eatock and a group of eight other Aboriginals took Bolt and
the Herald and Weekly Times to court claiming racial vilifiication
over two articles in which he criticised fair-skinned Aborigines
for what he argued was a choice they made, as people of mixed
racial background, to emphasise their indigenous heritage over their
white heritage.

Ms Eatock welcomed the judgment, saying it was a statement against discrimination.
She said the court's decision meant racial identity could be debated, but with respect.
"It's how you handle it, you can't be malicious ... he (Bolt) must handle it based on truth and fact," she said outside court.

Ms Eatock told the Herald Sun she was aware of her Scottish ancestry
from her mother's side but saw herself as Aboriginal.

In the articles, on April 15 and August 21, 2009, Bolt wrote that some
fair-skinned Aboriginal people, whom he called "political Aborigines'',
had received prominence or indigenous awards because they chose to
identify with their Aboriginality.
The Eatock action claimed
Bolt's articles - which appeared under the headlines "It's so hip to be
black'' and "White fellas in the black'' - had "offended, insulted,
humiliated or intimidated'' them and were a breach of racial vilification laws.

In court during hearings in April, Neil Young, QC, for Bolt, had argued that
freedom of speech "trumped" other rights and was a cornerstone of democracy.

"Everything that's said, even if it's expressed colourfully, is rationally related to
a thesis that's a matter of public interest,'' Mr Young had said.

He argued the legal test for racial vilification was how an informed person would
interpret the views expressed in Bolt's articles.

But Ron Merkel, QC, for the complainants, said there was no attempt by Ms Eatock
or other members of the group to shut down freedom of speech or debate about racial identitity issues.

Mr Merkel said Bolt was free to express his views on the subject but should not have
chosen to attack the nine individuals he named in his columns and blog.

In the sometimes heated court exchanges, Bolt took exception to Mr Merkel's
comparison of the debate and Bolt's views to Nazi race laws, the Holocaust and eugenics.

Bolt argued those who chose to identify with only one part of their background
over another were contributing to racism and came at the cost of less focus on
the important issues of education, housing, health and poverty.

The parties were asked by Justice Bromberg to meet and discuss what orders the court should make.

The nine Aborigines who took legal action against Mr Bolt were former ATSIC
member Geoff Clark, artist Bindi Cole, academic Larissa Behrendt,
author Anita Heiss, health worker Leeanne Enoch, native title expert
Graham Atkinson, academic Wayne Atkinson, lawyer Mark McMillan and
activist Pat Eatock.

Mr Bolt and several of the plaintiffs were in court for today's decision.
Click here to read the full text of the judgment

And then there is also the fact that
Ciggy can only ever mock and attack has his own lies
about what I post.

This Land of Australia's globally unique position, stability,
history, geology, flora, fauna and richness in resources,
is the land God described that He would preserve for His,
re-gathered faithful.

He also warned of a great correction, for our denying the
obvious truth of His all promises kept, described in His Word,
and plainly evident in what is, in all this real world.

See, as 'they'/Ciggy et al know, I have never claimed that any
land can save anyone, but rather that this land is one huge proof
of The Creator's existence, that the faithful seekers of God should
take great comfort in, and that also condemns those who knowingly,
willingly cause others to reject it, through their cunning deceptions.

Salil Shetty

He is an Indian national.
Religion:
Hindu

true lilly wrote:Academics can save policy from politics
and public servants: it's time more tried
by:Stephen Matchett
From:The Australian
September 29, 2011 12:00AM

Protest signs outside Griffith. Picture: Nathan Edwards
Source: The Australian

ACADEMICS aren't always their own worse enemies. Sure, too often
they defend research which is incomprehensible to anybody outside the
academy on the grounds that scholarship exists for its own sake. But
their work is regularly ignored by allegedly practical people who assume
"academic" is a synonym for irrelevant.

Like last week, when a rural organisation called on the Murray
Darling Basin Authority to talk to lobby groups about its “computer
generated numbers,” which could damage bush communities.

Who knows what it was referring to but the computer generated numbers produced by
R Quentin Grafton and his colleagues at ANU and the University of Melbourne provide exactly the information needed to decide how to allocate water in the MDB.

The team won a Eureka Award this year for a stochastic model designed to determine outcomes for rivers on the basis of four real-time variables, drought-status,
current weather, weather correlation and current water storage, plus two controls,
environmental release and environmental flows. The model includes the
volume of stored water now and in the past, time since the previous
flood and the environmental impact of the last drenching. And yes the
model makers consulted in the MDB.

According to water experts asked by the Eureka judges, the model can
transform the Murray Darling basin debate by setting out what occurs
under different scenarios.

It is the sort of academic research that makes policy much easier for politicians,
because it sets out options independent of the usual pleadings that distort debate.
And it adds to the great achievement of scholars working out ways to create
water markets. Water research does not get much of a run here but
anybody interested in working on how to maximise economic and environmental
benefits of river use around the world will likely rely on Australian research.

Given the Eureka awarded to Grafton’s team is sponsored by the National Water Commission here’s hoping policy people are pouring over the model.

And here’s hoping lots more academics than in the past will apply their expertise to policy.

In July J R Nethercote from the Australian Catholic University argued academics tend to keep clear of policy problems, “they follow the rule that they should say nothing unless they can say something nice.”

Writing in The Canberra Times Professor Nethercote added university staff who
“shift quickly from analysis to advocacy almost invariably do both
superficially.”

But none of this applies to groups like Grafton’s which advance scholarship by addressing policy problems. And Nethercote, for all his distaste for “public intellectuals (“though it is the former rather than the latter quality which is the more telling”), knows why.

For a start he says the public service, which should be doing the creative policy thinking isn’t, “unless information is conveniently served up on a regular basis, such as data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the enlightenment which might enrich
public policy will likely pass by unnoticed.”

This is unfair to researchers in Treasury, the Reserve Bank and the Productivity
Commission, to name the most obvious idea shops, but his point stands.

Yesterday the Prime Minister announced Ken Henry would run the white paper into Australia’s relationship with Asia.

It’s a job any of a dozen academics could do but I wonder if it even occurred to the PM’s office to actually ask any of them.

true lilly wrote:The short time line lie, is something peddled by the small minded.
Too small to see over the fact that the short time line lie,
was exposed long before jokes like this, laughing at those who
still buy the short time line lie.

Albert Eckhout, a Dutch painter
who accompanied an expedition to northeast Brazil
from 1637 to 1644.



(but that is a
Major Mitchell COCKATOO,
and OZZIE NATIVE,
and this is BEFORE OZ
was 'officially' discovered!)

Originally Posted by vera susa

21-11-2009

WIKI

ON THIS DAY
21-11...

1977 –
"God Defend New Zealand"
became New Zealand's second national anthem,
on equal standing with "God Save the Queen",
which had been the traditional one since 1840.

Not Surprised with

LEVI going ROGUE...
(yet another missing image,
that showed far more than words)

Gershon or Gershom = "exile"

1) firstborn son of Levi
born before Jacob's family
went to MITSRAYIM

Root Word (Etymology)
a primitive root

1) to drive out, expel, cast out, drive away,
divorce, put away, thrust away, trouble, cast up

a) (Qal) to thrust out, cast out

b) (Niphal) to be driven away, be tossed

c) (Piel) to drive out, drive away

d) (Pual) to be thrust out


Kohath = "assembly"

1) the 2nd of the 3 sons of Levi
and progenitor of a family in the tribe of Levi

Root Word (Etymology)
from an unused root
meaning to ally oneself


Merari = "bitter"

1) the 3rd son of Levi
and head of a Levitical family

Root Word (Etymology)
a primitive root

1) to be bitter

a) (Qal) to be bitter

b) (Piel)

1) to show bitterness

2) to make bitter

c) (Hiphil) to make bitter, embitter

d) (Hithpalpel)

1) to embitter oneself

2) to be enraged


Benjamin = "son of the right hand"

1) Jacob's and Rachel's youngest son,
Joseph's full brother

2) son of Bilhan, great-grandson of Benjamin

3) a Benjamite, one of the sons of Harim,
in the time of Ezra who had taken a strange wife

4) the tribe descended from Benjamin, the son of Jacob

Genesis 49
Jacob Blesses His Sons

27 "Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
in the morning he devours the prey,
in the evening he divides the plunder."

Genesis - Chapter 49
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...&v=29&t=KJV#29

Judges 21
Wives for the Benjamites

1 The men of Israel
had taken an oath at Mizpah:
"Not one of us will give his daughter
in marriage to a Benjamite."

6 Now the Israelites grieved for their brothers,
the Benjamites. "Today one tribe is cut off from Israel,"
they said.
7 "How can we provide wives for those who are left,
since we have taken an oath by the LORD
not to give them any of our daughters in marriage?"

12 They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead
four hundred young women who had never slept with a man,
and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

19 But look, there is the annual festival of the LORD in Shiloh,
to the north of Bethel, and east of the road that goes from Bethel
to Shechem, and to the south of Lebonah."

23 So that is what the Benjamites did.
While the girls were dancing,
each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife.
Then they returned to their inheritance
and rebuilt the towns and settled in them.

24 At that time the Israelites left that place
and went home to their tribes and clans,
each to his own inheritance.

25 In those days Israel had no king;
everyone did as he saw fit.

Judges - Chapter 21
[Strong's Numbers Visible]
[Show Strong's Help]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...21&v=1&t=KJV#1

1 Samuel 9:21

21 Saul answered, "But am I not a Benjamite,
from the smallest tribe of Israel,
and is not my clan
the least of all the clans of the tribe of Benjamin?
Why do you say such a thing to me?"

Acts 13

16Standing up, Paul motioned with his hand and said:
"Men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, listen to me!

17The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers;
he made the people prosper during their stay in MITSRAYIM,
with mighty power he led them out of that country,
18he endured their conduct[a] for about forty years in the desert,
19he overthrew seven nations in Canaan
and gave their land to his people as their inheritance.
20All this took about 450 years.
(4=A plural number + 100=Of uncertain affinity
+ 50=Multiplicative of A primary number)
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5071&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4004&t=KJV

"After this, God gave them judges
until the time of Samuel the prophet.

21Then the people asked for a king,
and he gave them Saul son of Kish,
of the tribe of Benjamin,
who ruled forty years.

22After removing Saul,
he made David their king.
He testified concerning him:
'I have found David son of Jesse
a man after my own heart;
he will do everything I want him to do.'

23"From this man's descendants
God has brought to Israel
the Savior Jesus,
as he promised.

true lilly wrote:Academics can save policy from politics
and public servants: it's time more tried
by:Stephen Matchett
From:The Australian
September 29, 2011 12:00AM

Protest signs outside Griffith. Picture: Nathan Edwards
Source: The Australian

ACADEMICS aren't always their own worse enemies. Sure, too often
they defend research which is incomprehensible to anybody outside the
academy on the grounds that scholarship exists for its own sake. But
their work is regularly ignored by allegedly practical people who assume
"academic" is a synonym for irrelevant.

Like last week, when a rural organisation called on the Murray
Darling Basin Authority to talk to lobby groups about its “computer
generated numbers,” which could damage bush communities.

Who knows what it was referring to but the computer generated numbers produced by
R Quentin Grafton and his colleagues at ANU and the University of Melbourne provide exactly the information needed to decide how to allocate water in the MDB.

The team won a Eureka Award this year for a stochastic model designed to determine outcomes for rivers on the basis of four real-time variables, drought-status,
current weather, weather correlation and current water storage, plus two controls,
environmental release and environmental flows. The model includes the
volume of stored water now and in the past, time since the previous
flood and the environmental impact of the last drenching. And yes the
model makers consulted in the MDB.

According to water experts asked by the Eureka judges, the model can
transform the Murray Darling basin debate by setting out what occurs
under different scenarios.

It is the sort of academic research that makes policy much easier for politicians,
because it sets out options independent of the usual pleadings that distort debate.
And it adds to the great achievement of scholars working out ways to create
water markets. Water research does not get much of a run here but
anybody interested in working on how to maximise economic and environmental
benefits of river use around the world will likely rely on Australian research.

Given the Eureka awarded to Grafton’s team is sponsored by the National Water Commission here’s hoping policy people are pouring over the model.

And here’s hoping lots more academics than in the past will apply their expertise to policy.

In July J R Nethercote from the Australian Catholic University argued academics tend to keep clear of policy problems, “they follow the rule that they should say nothing unless they can say something nice.”

Writing in The Canberra Times Professor Nethercote added university staff who
“shift quickly from analysis to advocacy almost invariably do both
superficially.”

But none of this applies to groups like Grafton’s which advance scholarship by addressing policy problems. And Nethercote, for all his distaste for “public intellectuals (“though it is the former rather than the latter quality which is the more telling”), knows why.

For a start he says the public service, which should be doing the creative policy thinking isn’t, “unless information is conveniently served up on a regular basis, such as data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the enlightenment which might enrich
public policy will likely pass by unnoticed.”

This is unfair to researchers in Treasury, the Reserve Bank and the Productivity
Commission, to name the most obvious idea shops, but his point stands.

Yesterday the Prime Minister announced Ken Henry would run the white paper into Australia’s relationship with Asia.

It’s a job any of a dozen academics could do but I wonder if it even occurred to the PM’s office to actually ask any of them.

true lilly wrote:

atlantabizgal wrote:
03-10-2011, 10:55 PM #85
atlantabizgal
Moderator

Originally Posted by mindrevolution I'm not saying i have the answers, but surely there are massive implications for a society that accepts murder and disembowelment? One of the things that annoys me so much is the mass hypocrisy surrounding pedophiles and peoples attitudes towards them. It's seemingly ok for soldiers, for example, to kill and maim children abroad but we want disembowelment of anyone who does harm to children here. Its fine for the big corporations to rape the shit out of the world, and yet we continue to buy their products and use their services, supporting them with their crimes. We are all criminals, perhaps we should all be murdered and disemboweled?

I'm with you on all your posts thus far in this thread. The same
posters who want to move the intelligence and spiritual plane forward
now applaud the murder and disembowelment of someone. Can't have it both
ways. I'm of the belief that it is the same brainwashing that causes
one to support such a heinous crime.

If we quack like a duck, we are therefore a duck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingersync I just know the world is a better place now, and as for feeling anything for this person's end...nothing, nothing at all.

How is this world a better place? There will be a price paid for
this as well. This evil against another human being will manifest itself
in some way detrimental to the goals of those who want to rid the world
of such violence?

Instead of 1 evil person, the rapist, now there are more, not counting
the ones who have committed this act within their hearts by supporting
the actions of those who killed him.

And Moderator

atlantabizgal, QUACKS LIKE THE QUACKS WHO
FUCK, TORTURE and COVER UP FOR OTHERS
WHO FUCK and TORTURE BABIES.

See, "THEY" ALL AVOID THE FACT, that,
LIKE CORI,
THAT CHILD RAPIST BOASTED OF HIS EVILS,
TO HIS FELLOW VIOLENT CRIMINALS,
that HE KNEW, PUNISH CHILD RAPISTS.

Which means only two things:
1- he believed he was "untouchable".
A valuable lesson for all such fools.

2- he didn't want to live with himself anymore.
He got the (temporary) relief he begged for.

[color=darkred][b]picha[/b][/color] wrote:

Originally Posted by nirvana Hes got a long history of child abuse .When he was 13yrs he molested a 7 yr old.

Well he obviously had some severe mental health problems then. Has
anyone considered something happened in his life to make him like that?

YES, and so, NO.

He was BOASTFULLY,
KNOWINGLY, SELFISHLY,
WILLINGLY EVIL.

LIKE COUNTLESS OTHERS,
SUCH EVIL SHIT WAS DONE TO ME,
FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE,
and I LIKE COUNTLESS OTHERS,
CHOSE TO NOT REPEAT THE EVIL,
AND WARN AGAINST, USING 'THAT EXCUSE'
TO 'GET OFF' ON DOING EVIL.

Remember that. Every Time you see
another one of THEM, Still ALIVE,
TO CONTINUE ATTACKING me, and,
By Association, ALL,
WHO SURVIVED THEIR TORTURES.

AND DO NOTE: these same names, DON'T
COME OUT AND ATTACK ALL THOSE WHO
CALL FOR THE DEATH of THE QUEEN of ENGLAND
and all things AND PEOPLE, IN ANY WAY ENGLISH.

True Lilly wrote:
And Moderator

atlantabizgal, QUACKS LIKE THE QUACKS WHO
FUCK, TORTURE and COVER UP FOR OTHERS
WHO FUCK and TORTURE BABIES.

See, "THEY" ALL AVOID THE FACT, that,
LIKE CORI,
THAT CHILD RAPIST BOASTED OF HIS EVILS,
TO HIS FELLOW VIOLENT CRIMINALS,
that HE KNEW, PUNISH CHILD RAPISTS.

Which means only two things:
1- he believed he was "untouchable".
A valuable lesson for all such fools.

2- he didn't want to live with himself anymore.
He got the (temporary) relief he begged for.