David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
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David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
Rock Rebels 'Clash' Were Corporate Puppets
'White served as the band's guitarist during their tumultuous final few years, which culminated in what is viewed as their worst album, "Cut the Crap" (1985.)
He was taken behind the scenes and saw how things really work.
He relays his experiences in his book 'Out of Control' which apart from being a compelling story, reveals how a group viewed as authentic and intellectual can be controlled by corporate puppeteers.
The band did not write their own songs.
Their socialist ideals were just marketing.
Manager Bernie Rhodes ran the group like a dictator.
Painful for Clash fans, singer and punk icon Joe Strummer is portrayed like a Geisha in the morning: a flawed mortal practicing a morally dubious trade.'
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/39496-rock-rebels-clash-were-corporate-puppets
English Cival War...And Joe Strummer One Of The Originators...!!!
One Of The Finest...!!!
But I Got A Feeling Were Pure Co-orperation Project...!!!
A Mocked Up Band To Serve As A Opposition Puppett...
So Dave Has Got A Point...!!!
crass white punks on hope
They said that we were trash,
Well the name is Crass, not Clash.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash.
They won't change nothing with their fashionable talk,
All their RAR badges and their protest walk,
Thousands of white men standing in a park,
Objecting to racism's like a candle in the dark.
Black man's got his problems and his way to deal with it,
So don't fool yourself you're helping with your white liberal shit.
If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand,
You'd see we're all just niggers to the rulers of this land.
Punk was once an answer to years of crap,
A way of saying no where we'd always said yep.
But the moment we saw a way to be free,
They invented a dividing line, street credibility.
The qualifying factors are politics and class,
Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse.
They said because of racism they'd come out on the street.
It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite.
Bigotry and blindness, a marxist con,
Another clever trick to keep us all in line.
Neat little labels to keep us all apart,
To keep us all divided when the troubles start.
Pogo on a nazi, spit upon a jew,
Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new.
Left wing violence, right wing violence, all seems much the same,
Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game.
Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot,
Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot.
Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point,
ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash.
Rock Rebels 'Clash' Were Corporate Puppets
'White served as the band's guitarist during their tumultuous final few years, which culminated in what is viewed as their worst album, "Cut the Crap" (1985.)
He was taken behind the scenes and saw how things really work.
He relays his experiences in his book 'Out of Control' which apart from being a compelling story, reveals how a group viewed as authentic and intellectual can be controlled by corporate puppeteers.
The band did not write their own songs.
Their socialist ideals were just marketing.
Manager Bernie Rhodes ran the group like a dictator.
Painful for Clash fans, singer and punk icon Joe Strummer is portrayed like a Geisha in the morning: a flawed mortal practicing a morally dubious trade.'
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/39496-rock-rebels-clash-were-corporate-puppets
English Cival War...And Joe Strummer One Of The Originators...!!!
One Of The Finest...!!!
But I Got A Feeling Were Pure Co-orperation Project...!!!
A Mocked Up Band To Serve As A Opposition Puppett...
So Dave Has Got A Point...!!!
crass white punks on hope
They said that we were trash,
Well the name is Crass, not Clash.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash.
They won't change nothing with their fashionable talk,
All their RAR badges and their protest walk,
Thousands of white men standing in a park,
Objecting to racism's like a candle in the dark.
Black man's got his problems and his way to deal with it,
So don't fool yourself you're helping with your white liberal shit.
If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand,
You'd see we're all just niggers to the rulers of this land.
Punk was once an answer to years of crap,
A way of saying no where we'd always said yep.
But the moment we saw a way to be free,
They invented a dividing line, street credibility.
The qualifying factors are politics and class,
Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse.
They said because of racism they'd come out on the street.
It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite.
Bigotry and blindness, a marxist con,
Another clever trick to keep us all in line.
Neat little labels to keep us all apart,
To keep us all divided when the troubles start.
Pogo on a nazi, spit upon a jew,
Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new.
Left wing violence, right wing violence, all seems much the same,
Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game.
Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot,
Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot.
Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point,
ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash.
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
...Icke is right.As for a top order punk outfit,always hated the Clash,fakes...Uk had much better to offer.So did we...1983-85,worst year for punk as New Wave took root and spawned the Gender Benders,like Marilyn,Culture Club.But not in Australia,we had Feedtime and Venom P Stinger,to get us through,as the rest of the world squirmed on pop shlock.Even Public Image Limited,with the release of the live in Tokyo and the dreadful This Is What You Want album...Punk was almost dead.Music at that time seem to have 10 year cycles,1975,creative rock hit a brickwall with stadiums and 20 minute guitar solos.
...One other good Punk outfit still going strong but about to implode,was the Dead Kennedy's...You'll never hear Icke bag Jello Biafra...pure genius and a could be misconstrued as a flag-bearer for the truth movement.He was talking human rights abuse and the corporate machine,
back in 1978-79,far in advance of the conspiracy industry,and much more relevant than the gob-spitting cockney fuckwits from Brittania.
The yanks pioneered punk,we took it up,way before you the people,with The Saints and McClaren,was just a skilled marketer,who stole the limelight for the Sex Pistols.
The Saints-Know Your Product
...One other good Punk outfit still going strong but about to implode,was the Dead Kennedy's...You'll never hear Icke bag Jello Biafra...pure genius and a could be misconstrued as a flag-bearer for the truth movement.He was talking human rights abuse and the corporate machine,
back in 1978-79,far in advance of the conspiracy industry,and much more relevant than the gob-spitting cockney fuckwits from Brittania.
The yanks pioneered punk,we took it up,way before you the people,with The Saints and McClaren,was just a skilled marketer,who stole the limelight for the Sex Pistols.
The Saints-Know Your Product
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
here,have something with relevance...The Celibate Rifles,Bill Bonney Regrets,love the line"Cops and Crims walk hand in hand and they call it free enterprise...."classic and true.We're a bit more real than gobspitting yobbo fuckwits.
...and thankyou very much Allen Secher Jensen for letting me post this,much love to you guys,RIP Dugald McKenzie...I did you proud.
Venom P Stinger's PCP Crazy....
here's Dugald's original band,The Sick Things....gimme pills,gimme pills,gimme lots of pills...
...that'll damage your ears and soundcard...
...and thankyou very much Allen Secher Jensen for letting me post this,much love to you guys,RIP Dugald McKenzie...I did you proud.
Venom P Stinger's PCP Crazy....
here's Dugald's original band,The Sick Things....gimme pills,gimme pills,gimme lots of pills...
...that'll damage your ears and soundcard...
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...Melbourne Sharpies...1974.
...like I said,we were ahead...you just followed,with the dollar/pound sterling in mind....have a nice day.
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
true lilly wrote:Smiling, when I see this thread, I start singing, THE CLASH... Lost in a supermarket...no longer shop happily...special 'offer', 'guaranteed' personality... Yep, music to read this thread by - THE CLASH ... TALKING HEADS, STOP MAKING SENSE... And Sod, was, SOUTHERN CROSS TEN NEWS, Featuring VIDAL SASSOON yesterday, a 'CO' 'INCI' 'DENCE'...
Not One Of Their Best Songs...
This Is Better...
I Just Read A Book About The Clash...
The Thing That Struck Me,
Is That They Chose Paul Simenoen As Their Bassist,
Not Because He Was Musically Talented...
But He Was The Coolest Man On The Planet At The Time...
I Go To See A Lot Of Bands,
All Very Talented Musicians...
But I Have Not Seen An Inspirational Band In Ages...!!!
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
BIG Smile..."how long have you been with me and you still don't understand", HOW, GOD, SIFTS, SORTS, HIDES 'until the denounciation is over', REDEEMS and SAVES, those of JACOB/ISRAEL'S MANY NATIONS, WHO ANSWER GOD'S CALL TO ETERNAL LIFE. God is NOT a bully boy dictator, but gave us the Free Will to Choose, to SEE & HEAR, the difference between, HIS LOVING TRUTH and Satan's Deadly Deceptions, e.g. 'Van The Man', 'DWELLER ON THE THRESHHOLD' - 'DOMINO' or 'QUEEN OF SLIPSTREAM'. Tintin/icke also slagged off (and attacked me over), SAUL SIMEON/Paul Simon's CALLS TO REPENTANCE...for those with 'ears that hear'.
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
"I'VE BEEN HUNGRY, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO KILL", "THIS IS ENG LAND". Thank you, Pete Crebbin-THE BOXING TOASTADOS, and, 'KIWI' Tim Latimer (dec.) .... "JEALOUSY", THE DEAD SALESMEN, JUSTIN 'HAPPY' HAYWOOD=BLESSED GENIUS! ....so, "BLESS THE KING WHO BREAKS YOUR LEGS, SO AS TO MAKE YOU THINK, NOT RUN TO HELL, and LIVE!"true lilly wrote:BIG Smile..."how long have you been with me and you still don't understand", HOW, GOD, SIFTS, SORTS, HIDES 'until the denounciation is over', REDEEMS and SAVES, those of JACOB/ISRAEL'S MANY NATIONS, WHO ANSWER GOD'S CALL TO ETERNAL LIFE. God is NOT a bully boy dictator, but gave us the Free Will to Choose, to SEE & HEAR, the difference between, HIS LOVING TRUTH and Satan's Deadly Deceptions, e.g. 'Van The Man', 'DWELLER ON THE THRESHHOLD' - 'DOMINO' or 'QUEEN OF SLIPSTREAM'. Tintin/icke also slagged off (and attacked me over), SAUL SIMEON/Paul Simon's CALLS TO REPENTANCE...for those with 'ears that hear'.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
Billy Ruben wrote:...Icke is right.As for a top order punk outfit,always hated the Clash,fakes...Uk had much better to offer.So did we...1983-85,worst year for punk as New Wave took root and spawned the Gender Benders,like Marilyn,Culture Club.But not in Australia,we had Feedtime and Venom P Stinger,to get us through,as the rest of the world squirmed on pop shlock.Even Public Image Limited,with the release of the live in Tokyo and the dreadful This Is What You Want album...Punk was almost dead.Music at that time seem to have 10 year cycles,1975,creative rock hit a brickwall with stadiums and 20 minute guitar solos.
...One other good Punk outfit still going strong but about to implode,was the Dead Kennedy's...You'll never hear Icke bag Jello Biafra...pure genius and a could be misconstrued as a flag-bearer for the truth movement.He was talking human rights abuse and the corporate machine,
back in 1978-79,far in advance of the conspiracy industry,and much more relevant than the gob-spitting cockney fuckwits from Brittania.
The yanks pioneered punk,we took it up,way before you the people,with The Saints and McClaren,was just a skilled marketer,who stole the limelight for the Sex Pistols.
The Saints-Know Your Product
The initial spark was in Detroit with MC5 and the Stooges, but then it rapidly spread to OzTrailer with The Saints and Radio Birdman and the like. Then orf to Blighty, then rebounded to Jew Pork City (Richard Hell of course), and then basically every city had its own scene.
The Clash formed the foundation on which cheesy American pop-punk was built, with relatively acceptable bands at first like the Descendants, but then with each new wave of pop-punk getting more pop and less punk, like the Offspring and then finally Blink 182 (the official death choke of punk).
Here is that familiar sound from the late '90s and early '00s:
The sound traces back to Clash harmonizing in ditties like "Garage Band".
I don't absolutely hate it, there are worse out there, but obviously the harder grittier side of punk is better.
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
Dead Kennedys wasn't the earliest of the punk bands, but arguably one of the best, at least politically. Jello's been on-message non-stop since day 1. It's why he'll never get the embarrassment of invitation to the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" like Johnny Lydon did.
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
Alan watt came out with this about the clash last year...Icke is just playing catch up
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Re: David Icke Disses The Clash...!!!
And Watt plays catch up to Glenn Kealey...
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Ciggy wrote:And Watt plays catch up to Glenn Kealey...
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