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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:50 am

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:52 am

Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil



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Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
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Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching

Bremen, Germany

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SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 The-mentalist-season-two-

It's HYPNOSIS, that all!

'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!

Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...

...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...
true lilly wrote:And remember, while 'Billy Ruben'
is boasting of being on cori=tintin's side

(cori, who proudly, publicly boasts it
WANTS 99.9 of HUMANS DEAD),

"tintin" also loved to brag about what an
International Big Wig His Brother Is
In The MENTAL (ILL)health INDUSTRY...




McGorry aborts teen drug trial
Jill Stark

August 21, 2011

SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Art-353-518186816-200x0

Patrick McGorry ... a formal complaint was lodged.
Photo: Angela Wylie


Read the complaint in full
THE FORMER Australian of the year Patrick McGorry has
aborted a controversial trial of anti-psychotic drugs on children as
young as 15 who are ''at risk'' of psychosis, amid complaints the study
was unethical.


The Sun-Herald
can reveal 13 international health experts
lodged a formal complaint calling for the trial not to go ahead.

They were concerned children who had not yet been

diagnosed with a psychotic illness would be unnecessarily given drugs
with potentially dangerous side effects.


Quetiapine, sold as Seroquel, has been linked to weight
gain and its manufacturer AstraZeneca, which was to fund the trial, last
month paid US$647 million ($622 million) to settle a lawsuit in the US,
alleging there was insufficient warning the drug may cause diabetes.


Professor McGorry, one of the Prime Minister's key mental
health advisers, planned the trial at Orygen Youth Health in Melbourne,
listing it on the Australian New Zealand Clinical Trials Registry last
March.


It was to investigate whether the drug would decrease or
delay the risk of people aged between 15 and 40 with early signs of
mental illness, developing a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.

Last month, psychiatrists, psychologists and researchers
from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain and the US lodged a
complaint with the ethics committee of Melbourne Health, the umbrella
service which includes Orygen. They argued there was little evidence
the onset of psychosis can be prevented and it was potentially dangerous
to use anti-psychotics on those who merely had risk factors such as a
family history or deterioration in mental health, with evidence showing
up to 80 per cent will never develop a disorder.

Professor McGorry insists the decision to scrap the trial
was made in June and is unrelated to the complaint, which he said he
was only alerted to just over a week ago.

He said Orygen had to choose between the drug trial or
pursuing another trial using fish oil - which had proven useful as an
early intervention treatment for schizophrenia
in a smaller study. It
opted for fish oil because it had less potential for side effects.


Melbourne Health's research ethics committee will still consider the complaint in September.

Read the complaint in full



The Sun-Herald recently revealed a growing
backlash against the government's mental health reforms, with Professor
McGorry's peers claiming his youth early intervention model had been
''massively oversold''.


Associate Professor Geoff Stuart from La Trobe
University's school of psychological sciences, who signed the complaint,

said serious questions about the aborted trial remain.

''He [Professor McGorry] was willing to endorse a trial
which was exploring the use of anti-psychotic medication in an at-risk
group,'' he said. ''There's a major ethical issue about medicating four
people to supposedly save the fifth when you're not saving them anyway,
you're just masking their symptoms.


''We're talking about kids as young as 15 who could get a full dose of anti-psychotics and they're not psychotic.''

Read the complaint in full



Anti-psychotics are vital but should not be used without clear evidence of the benefits, experts say.

Professor McGorry admitted the evidence suggested
anti-psychotics were not effective as a first-line treatment for the
at-risk group.
But he said the risks had been exaggerated and he would
consider a similar trial on patients for whom other treatments had
failed.


Read more:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/mcgorry-aborts-teen-drug-trial-20110820-1j3k1.html#ixzz1VaQMpGDf



Read the complaint in full
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Post  mugglez Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:03 pm

true lilly wrote: It's a SERIOUS MATTER:
BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin boobies


QUIET Woman!!, el kabong chequed you, billy rueben mated you! That's Game Over. or are you too thick to comprehend that? You've been exposed completely as a lying fraud and a very nasty character assassin as well.

What do you have to say for yourself?

You're not a Prophet of God, that is apparent by the way you misuse and twist Holy scripture to fit your ignorance and bias.

Pipe it down and put a cork in it.....you're not folling anyone anymore....you have no authenticity, credibility or honour.

Like el kabong told you: Bullshit cannot withstand pressure. He and Billy crushed you like a stinkin' bug.


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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:05 pm

[quote="true lilly"]Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil



Billy Ruben wrote:I LOVE MY SATANIC BLOOD RITUAL AND SHALL EAT YOUR GRANDCHILDREN IN A FEAST TO THE BEAST,LIP SMACKING SCRUMPTUOUS FRIED BABY,LURVE ME SATAN...YUM,YUM...YOU'RE NOT RHESUS FACTOR NEGATIVE IN BLOOD? A DELICACY,LIKE TRUFFLES IN FRANCE,EXCEPT I DON'T NEED A PIG TO HUNT THEM DOWN,HEHEHEHEHE...DELICIOUS

cthulhu

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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:10 pm

sabrage wrote:
true lilly wrote: It's a SERIOUS MATTER:
BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin boobies


QUIET Woman!!, el kabong chequed you, billy rueben mated you! That's Game Over. or are you too thick to comprehend that? You've been exposed completely as a lying fraud and a very nasty character assassin as well.

What do you have to say for yourself?

You're not a Prophet of God, that is apparent by the way you misuse and twist Holy scripture to fit your ignorance and bias.

Pipe it down and put a cork in it.....you're not folling anyone anymore....you have no authenticity, credibility or honour.

Like el kabong told you: Bullshit cannot withstand pressure. He and Billy crushed you like a stinkin' bug.


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THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE MATTER,ONCE SHE'S GONE,WE DO GOOD THREADS AGAIN,I LIKE THIS FORUM AND DAVID ICKE FORUM...AND APOLOGISE FOR THE STYLE OF VULGARNESS,BUT IT'S A BEAST I'M SLAYING,A VERY NASTY ONE,THANKYOU AGAIN,REGARDS,jASON...

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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:51 pm

Talk about full blow delusions...
of, The Tag Teaming Delusional Demons
Razz ...

...psst, one needs to possess Good character,
before another can 'assassinate' it ...Rolling Eyes

...and boy oh boy, haven't 'you' MOB proven,
'you' possess no good character at all,
and better still,
it's 'you' MOB of proudly self confessed satanists,
ROOTING [For] 'those' who NEED TO CON others
into believing 'they' are 'godly', to get paid for
leading them to the devil.


Yet another, Great Own Goal, from...
"TEAM,
YOUR THE DEVIL! NO, WE'RE THE DEVIL!
NO, YOUR EVIL! NO, WE'RE EVIL!

AWW SHIT!...
YOU'RE WHO 'WE' HATE,
FOR KNOWING 'WE' HATE YOU,
FOR NOT JOINING 'OUR' SECRET,
EVIL DEMON WORSHIPING RELIGIONS...
...and, making us employ idiots who
OUTED US INSTEAD OF CONVERTING YOU...

...SO THERE!!!"

Wink Laughing SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 93349

true lilly wrote:And he doesn't even get that
I'm doing his 'mates' a favour
by ignoring him.

But 'they' will get,
that he is doing 'them', NO FAVOUR!
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r
'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil



true lilly wrote:SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Title_kin_bigSERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Butterfly_home
Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
TMJ, Learning Problems

Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching

Bremen, Germany

http://www.kinergetics.com.au/KinShop.asp?KinCoursePage=2
SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 The-mentalist-season-two-

It's HYPNOSIS, that all!

'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!

Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...

...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...
true lilly wrote:And remember, while 'Billy Ruben'
is boasting of being on cori=tintin's side

(cori, who proudly, publicly boasts it
WANTS 99.9 of HUMANS DEAD),

"tintin" also loved to brag about what an
International Big Wig His Brother Is
In The MENTAL (ILL)health INDUSTRY...




McGorry aborts teen drug trial
Jill Stark

August 21, 2011

SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Art-353-518186816-200x0

Patrick McGorry ... a formal complaint was lodged.
Photo: Angela Wylie


Read the complaint in full
THE FORMER Australian of the year Patrick McGorry has
aborted a controversial trial of anti-psychotic drugs on children as
young as 15 who are ''at risk'' of psychosis, amid complaints the study
was unethical.


The Sun-Herald
can reveal 13 international health experts
lodged a formal complaint calling for the trial not to go ahead.

They were concerned children who had not yet been

diagnosed with a psychotic illness would be unnecessarily given drugs
with potentially dangerous side effects.


Quetiapine, sold as Seroquel, has been linked to weight
gain and its manufacturer AstraZeneca, which was to fund the trial, last
month paid US$647 million ($622 million) to settle a lawsuit in the US,
alleging there was insufficient warning the drug may cause diabetes.


Professor McGorry, one of the Prime Minister's key mental
health advisers, planned the trial at Orygen Youth Health in Melbourne,
listing it on the Australian New Zealand Clinical Trials Registry last
March.


It was to investigate whether the drug would decrease or
delay the risk of people aged between 15 and 40 with early signs of
mental illness, developing a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.

Last month, psychiatrists, psychologists and researchers
from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain and the US lodged a
complaint with the ethics committee of Melbourne Health, the umbrella
service which includes Orygen. They argued there was little evidence
the onset of psychosis can be prevented and it was potentially dangerous
to use anti-psychotics on those who merely had risk factors such as a
family history or deterioration in mental health, with evidence showing
up to 80 per cent will never develop a disorder.

Professor McGorry insists the decision to scrap the trial
was made in June and is unrelated to the complaint, which he said he
was only alerted to just over a week ago.

He said Orygen had to choose between the drug trial or
pursuing another trial using fish oil - which had proven useful as an
early intervention treatment for schizophrenia
in a smaller study. It
opted for fish oil because it had less potential for side effects.


Melbourne Health's research ethics committee will still consider the complaint in September.

Read the complaint in full



The Sun-Herald recently revealed a growing
backlash against the government's mental health reforms, with Professor
McGorry's peers claiming his youth early intervention model had been
''massively oversold''.


Associate Professor Geoff Stuart from La Trobe
University's school of psychological sciences, who signed the complaint,

said serious questions about the aborted trial remain.

''He [Professor McGorry] was willing to endorse a trial
which was exploring the use of anti-psychotic medication in an at-risk
group,'' he said. ''There's a major ethical issue about medicating four
people to supposedly save the fifth when you're not saving them anyway,
you're just masking their symptoms.


''We're talking about kids as young as 15 who could get a full dose of anti-psychotics and they're not psychotic.''

Read the complaint in full



Anti-psychotics are vital but should not be used without clear evidence of the benefits, experts say.

Professor McGorry admitted the evidence suggested
anti-psychotics were not effective as a first-line treatment for the
at-risk group.
But he said the risks had been exaggerated and he would
consider a similar trial on patients for whom other treatments had
failed.


Read more:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/mcgorry-aborts-teen-drug-trial-20110820-1j3k1.html#ixzz1VaQMpGDf



Read the complaint in full
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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:17 pm

And now it seems 'Jason' has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly, demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same (not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them, are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet; surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of those who Publicly claim
to privately Share a Satanic Association with those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:00 pm

true lilly wrote:And now it seems 'Jason' has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly, demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same (not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them, are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet; surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of those who Publicly claim
to privately Share a Satanic Association with those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
true lilly wrote:Oh, and 'Jason/Billy' also had to text me
that pig 'cori' Twisted Evil
had made an appearance here,
and that that was (somehow Rolling Eyes ), scaring me off...
so umm, where is pig it Twisted Evil now, and why did pig it Twisted Evil appear
when Twisted Evil pig 'they' pig Twisted Evil knew,
I was off, up and about in the real world
Wink Very Happy ?

Yet another, Great Own Goal, from...
"TEAM,
YOUR THE DEVIL! NO, WE'RE THE DEVIL!
NO, YOUR EVIL! NO, WE'RE EVIL!

AWW SHIT!...
YOU'RE WHO 'WE' HATE,
FOR KNOWING 'WE' HATE YOU,
FOR NOT JOINING 'OUR' SECRET,
EVIL DEMON WORSHIPING RELIGIONS...
...and, making us employ idiots who
OUTED US INSTEAD OF CONVERTING YOU...

...SO THERE!!!"

Wink Laughing SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 93349
So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason' has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly, demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same (not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them, are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet; surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of those who Publicly claim
to privately Share a Satanic Association with those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.

true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
of, The Tag Teaming Delusional Demons
Razz ...

...psst, one needs to possess Good character,
before another can 'assassinate' it ...Rolling Eyes

...and boy oh boy, haven't 'you' MOB proven,
'you' possess no good character at all,
and better still,
it's 'you' MOB of proudly self confessed satanists,
ROOTING [For] 'those' who NEED TO CON others
into believing 'they' are 'godly', to get paid for
leading them to the devil.

true lilly wrote:And he doesn't even get that
I'm doing his 'mates' a favour by ignoring him.

But 'they' will get,
that he is doing 'them', NO FAVOUR!
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r
'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil



true lilly wrote:SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Title_kin_bigSERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Butterfly_home
Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
TMJ, Learning Problems

Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching

Bremen, Germany

http://www.kinergetics.com.au/KinShop.asp?KinCoursePage=2
SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 The-mentalist-season-two-

It's HYPNOSIS, that all!

'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!

Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...

...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...
true lilly wrote:And remember, while 'Billy Ruben'
is boasting of being on cori=tintin's side

(cori, who proudly, publicly boasts it
WANTS 99.9 of HUMANS DEAD),

"tintin" also loved to brag about what an
International Big Wig His Brother Is
In The MENTAL (ILL)health INDUSTRY...


McGorry aborts teen drug trial
Jill Stark

August 21, 2011

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Patrick McGorry ... a formal complaint was lodged.
Photo: Angela Wylie


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THE FORMER Australian of the year Patrick McGorry has
aborted a controversial trial of anti-psychotic drugs on children as
young as 15 who are ''at risk'' of psychosis, amid complaints the study
was unethical.


The Sun-Herald
can reveal 13 international health experts
lodged a formal complaint calling for the trial not to go ahead.

They were concerned children who had not yet been

diagnosed with a psychotic illness would be unnecessarily given drugs
with potentially dangerous side effects.


Quetiapine, sold as Seroquel, has been linked to weight
gain and its manufacturer AstraZeneca, which was to fund the trial, last
month paid US$647 million ($622 million) to settle a lawsuit in the US,
alleging there was insufficient warning the drug may cause diabetes.


Professor McGorry, one of the Prime Minister's key mental
health advisers, planned the trial at Orygen Youth Health in Melbourne,
listing it on the Australian New Zealand Clinical Trials Registry last
March.


It was to investigate whether the drug would decrease or
delay the risk of people aged between 15 and 40 with early signs of
mental illness, developing a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.

Last month, psychiatrists, psychologists and researchers
from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain and the US lodged a
complaint with the ethics committee of Melbourne Health, the umbrella
service which includes Orygen. They argued there was little evidence
the onset of psychosis can be prevented and it was potentially dangerous
to use anti-psychotics on those who merely had risk factors such as a
family history or deterioration in mental health, with evidence showing
up to 80 per cent will never develop a disorder.

Professor McGorry insists the decision to scrap the trial
was made in June and is unrelated to the complaint, which he said he
was only alerted to just over a week ago.

He said Orygen had to choose between the drug trial or
pursuing another trial using fish oil - which had proven useful as an
early intervention treatment for schizophrenia
in a smaller study. It
opted for fish oil because it had less potential for side effects.


Melbourne Health's research ethics committee will still consider the complaint in September.

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The Sun-Herald recently revealed a growing
backlash against the government's mental health reforms, with Professor
McGorry's peers claiming his youth early intervention model had been
''massively oversold''.


Associate Professor Geoff Stuart from La Trobe
University's school of psychological sciences, who signed the complaint,

said serious questions about the aborted trial remain.

''He [Professor McGorry] was willing to endorse a trial
which was exploring the use of anti-psychotic medication in an at-risk
group,'' he said. ''There's a major ethical issue about medicating four
people to supposedly save the fifth when you're not saving them anyway,
you're just masking their symptoms.


''We're talking about kids as young as 15 who could get a full dose of anti-psychotics and they're not psychotic.''

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Anti-psychotics are vital but should not be used without clear evidence of the benefits, experts say.

Professor McGorry admitted the evidence suggested
anti-psychotics were not effective as a first-line treatment for the
at-risk group.
But he said the risks had been exaggerated and he would
consider a similar trial on patients for whom other treatments had
failed.


Read more:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/mcgorry-aborts-teen-drug-trial-20110820-1j3k1.html#ixzz1VaQMpGDf

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So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


Me, I'll stick with The Creator God's Living Word.
HE give us Full Warning about how 'you' mob 'work'.

Proverbs 7:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=7&v=1&t=KJV#top
10
And, look! there was a woman to meet him,
with the garment of a prostitute and cunning of heart.

11
She is boisterous and stubborn.
In her house her feet do not keep residing.

12
Now she is outdoors, now she is in the public squares,
and near every corner she lies in wait.

13
And she has grabbed hold of him and given him a kiss.
She has put on a bold face, and she begins to say to him:

14
“Communion sacrifices were incumbent upon me.
Today I have paid my vows.

15
That is why I have come out to meet you,
to look for your face, that I may find you.
16

With coverlets I have bedecked my divan,
with many-colored things, linen of Egypt.

17
I have besprinkled my bed with myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.
18
Do come, let us drink our fill of love until the morning;
do let us enjoy each other with love expressions.

19
For the husband is not in his house;
he has gone traveling on a way of some distance.

20
A bag of money he has taken in his hand.
On the day of the full moon he will come to his house.”

21
She has misled him by the abundance of her persuasiveness.
By the smoothness of her lips she seduces him.

22
All of a sudden he is going after her, like a bull
that comes even to the slaughter,
and just as if fettered for the discipline of a foolish man,

23
until an arrow cleaves open his liver,
just as a bird hastens into the trap,
and he has not known that it involves his very soul.

24
And now, O sons, listen to me
and pay attention to the sayings of my mouth.
25
May your heart not turn aside to her ways.
Do not wander into her roadways.

26
For many are the ones she has caused to fall down slain,
and all those being killed by her are numerous.

27
The ways to She´ol her house is;
they are descending to the interior rooms of death.
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:20 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.


lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.
Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA rolf
[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... cthulhu [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

rolf tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...


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Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 823521 Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing
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Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 317380 .



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Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' Rolling Eyes),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???


And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...



JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.
Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...



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Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE...


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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:15 pm

LAST TXT MESSAGE:
SUCKED IN,THE POLICE CONFIRMED UR A LIAR & FRAUD,HAHAHA,GOT U


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Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA rolf ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Post  Sod-Haus...!!! Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:22 pm

Fight Fire With Fire...!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
Sod-Haus...!!!
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:55 pm

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:Fight Fire With Fire...!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

AND WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOD?...OH,DID YOU KNOW,CAUSE OF THE LAWS AS THEY STAND NOW,YOU DID'NT HAVE TO GET RID OF THAT TISWAS THREAD...YOU COULD'VE LEFT IT...AND GOT COLIN TO SPEND THE MONEY AND FAIL,TRYING TO HAVE IT REMOVED...YEAH,I LEARNED A LOT TODAY...IF YOU'RE URGING LILLY TO HAVE HER GO WITH TAREE COPS,GO AHEAD,BE MY GUEST...YOU'LL GET NO-WHERE,I ALREADY TRIED...OH,YOUR FORUM NAME WAS'NT MENTIONED,SO DON'T JUMP TO ANY CONCLUSIONS ON WHAT I TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH rolf

TOUGH LUCK!

lmao
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:22 pm

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:Fight Fire With Fire...!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

HMMMM,THOUGHT AS MUCH
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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:50 pm

Rioters who shot at police
will be treated as attempted murderers

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August 21, 2011
10:13AM

Alarming new footage shows rioters in England
shooting at police in a helicopter and on the ground.
Birmingham police say the perpetrators
will be treated as attempted murderers.
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true lilly wrote:Re: TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM
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cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



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...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING
post,
WHILE I was being blocked
from David Icke's Official Forum.
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS
to 'make' his 'connections'...


Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
MADE HISTORY BY WINNING IT.

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Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...


Soaring dollar hits record high

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Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.


Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...


...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying
his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...


tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.
(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)


And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.


Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.
Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.


Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.


It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam
have their appartment in Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.
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The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

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Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.


Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.


He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in Port Arthur.
20 MAY. 13 days after the Massacre.
the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.

but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.


So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),

From The Beginning.


And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE"
in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.


Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS,
to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube
Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward

From:News Limited newspapersJuly 28, 2011
12:00AM

17 comments SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 028470-mourners
Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun
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Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied
HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.

It contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies"
surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .

"Unfortunately this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage
Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube Perth Now, 2 hours ago

Lady Gaga in YouTube copyright spat Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
Woman charged over State of Origin pee Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2011
Officer who sprayed boy to be charged Herald Sun, 22 Jun 2011
Horrific footage of Iranian jet crash Adelaide Now, 6 Jun 2011

"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for many years with many
of the survivors and victims' families, shared the disbelief and horror
about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Arthurprins2
Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM

Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander
and Princess Maxima.


Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.


"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.


"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name
and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed
on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.
cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826



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...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:46 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA rolf ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
thumbs up rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 823521 Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing
SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 943134
Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 317380 .



SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 624861
Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
rolf

tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.


lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.
Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA rolf
[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... cthulhu [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

rolf tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...


thumbs down thumbs down
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 823521 Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing
SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 943134
Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 317380 .



SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 624861
Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' Rolling Eyes),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???


And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...



JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.
Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...



thumbs up lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE... thumbs up
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htm

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think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic rolf
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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:38 am

tintin wrote:14-08-2011, 05:44 PM #30174
Israel and the French Revolution. IX

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Ark
TOM CRUISE resides in NEW-ARK in WAR of the WORLDS.
He is FERRIER in the movie and FERRO is IRON.
IRAN plane shot down on the 26th birthday CRUISE
and IRON has the nr 26.

Back to 1860 MUNICH.

Here the manager.
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Mason: Iran

RAINER MAURER was born on 16 FEBRUARY,
same as KERMIT ROOSEVELT. (OPERATION AJAX)

A MAURER is a MASON.

From 1987 till 1989 he played for Old Boys BASEL.
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Basel
Blades


Back at the GUILOTINE link to BLADES and IRAN BARKLEY......
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World War

SCHINDLER
born 28 APRIL.
GAVRILO PRINCIP died 28 APRIL 1918 on the 10th birthday SCHINDLER
and SCHINDLER died on 9 OCTOBER on the birthday of CAMERON
who resides at nr 10 and on the birthday of JOHN LENNON
and he means HEY JUDE and SCHINDLER saved many JUDEN.
(GAVRILO died in AVRIL)
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Rue des Rosiers: Pletzl
Quote:
The Rue des Rosiers lies at the center of the Jewish quarter unofficially called "the Pletzl" (Yiddish for "little place").
RUE DES ROSIERS in the MARAIS.
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Schindler married to Pelzl
EMILIE PELZL and OSKAR SCHINDLER.
LIAM NEESON played OSKAR SCHINDLER.
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Neeson and Satan

NEESON was married to NATAS-ha (SATAN reversed) RICHARDSON.

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Natasha: The Jews

NATASHA died on 18 MARCH, on the birthday of AJAX aka the JEWS.

She died because of a SKIING accident.

SKIING means SNOW.
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Snowflake: Israel
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Natasha Richardson
First spouse NATASHA was ROBERT FOX, the brother
of EDWARD FOX, the JACKAL.
FOX = 666 and DAMIEN THORN is the son of a JACKAL
and NATAS is SATAN reversed.

The JACKAL was DUGGAN and DUGGAN started
the LONDON RIOTS and he died 4 AUGUST.

SNOW = STAR of DAVID and SNOWY is the DOG of Tintin
and DOG is GOD reversed.
CHRIST and ANTICHRIST
and GOD and ANTIGOD. (SATAN)
true lilly wrote:HERALD SUN TODAY
August 21, 2011 10:13AM

true lilly wrote:Rioters who shot at police
will be treated as attempted murderers

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Alarming new footage shows rioters in England
shooting at police in a helicopter and on the ground.
Birmingham police say the perpetrators
will be treated as attempted murderers.
Read More
true lilly wrote:Re: TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM
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cori wrote:28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826

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crosshairs
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...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING
post,
WHILE I was being blocked
from David Icke's Official Forum.
true lilly wrote:Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS
to 'make' his 'connections'...
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TODAY Sunday 21st August 2011

RED ARROWS CRASH PILOT DIES A HERO
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Flight Lieutenant Jon Egging
encountered difficulties as he took part in a
daredevil air display
dixie d wrote:There might be something in this article...

RED ARROWS CRASH PILOT DIES A HERO

Quote:
Flight Lieutenant Jon Egging
encountered difficulties as he took part in a daredevil air display with
the Royal Air Force Aerobatic Team, which he joined in April last year.
Quote:
Witnesses told how the 33-year-old bravely wrestled with the controls of his aircraft, steering it away from more than a dozen homes.
Quote:
Locals in the tiny village of Throop in Dorset described yesterday
how the plane, which usually carries out carefully orchestrated
manoeuvres at 500mph, was barely 50ft above ground as it was guided by the deft former Harrier pilot.
Quote:
One local farmer said Flt Lt Egging tried to eject but it was too late. Moments later, his aircraft hit the ground and “bounced’ across fields before it came to rest in the River Stour. Nicholas Gore, 22, from Throop, was walking with a friend near the river when he saw all nine Red Arrows shoot past.
I'll look into the rest.

21-08-2011, 05:32 AM #30303

There is a difference of words in this article...

Red Arrows hero dies steering stricken jet away from homes

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Flight Lieutenant Jon Egging
encountered difficulties as he took part in a
daredevil air display
TODAY Sunday 21st August 2011
RED ARROWS CRASH PILOT DIES A HERO

TODAY August 21, 2011 10:13AM
Rioters who shot at police
will be treated as attempted murderers

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Alarming new footage shows rioters in England
shooting at police in a helicopter and on the ground.
Birmingham police say the perpetrators
will be treated as attempted murderers.
Read More

One difference, is that they didn't crop out,
a reflection of a black watch...


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stormrider73 wrote:08-08-2011, 02:48 PM #30067
stormrider73
Senior Member
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Irkutsk, Siberia
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That ABB thing is realy scary

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Watch that ABB logo in this video @ time 08:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2EqpSFpqSJc

Looks like after reading some of David Icke books and been on that forum I became "illuminated"! Can I join Illuminati now? SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Cool And how much they are gonna pay? SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 BiggrinSERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 BiggrinSERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Biggrin

I love you, brits! I love The Queen SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Smile

Conspiracy Theorists of all nations - unite!

07-08-2011, 06:27 AM #30032
Denver airport and ABB?

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The next mural no doubt expresses world peace, however notice that the
nations are giving their weapons to the German boy in the blonde hair
and gray jacket who is ” beating their swords into plowshares”.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-1551595/

"Blonde nazi" - ABB?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvqF7NidOjQ

07-08-2011, 11:23 AM #30037

Baron Ungern and ABB


I posted a video here yesterday about Baron von Ungern-Sternberg


And here's the video about ABB


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Is it some cult or what the heck?

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... but many of their posts are "edited away" ... SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 252310
...and you need go back further than here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3000
...to start to, begin to, catch up...like 3000 pages earlier Razz
...and the rest of it... Wink Smile Laughing
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Post  true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:59 pm

TOLD YOU IT WAS SERIOUS!
And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure Rolling Eyes
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH...Laughing...TO,
those 'cleaning them up'...
Razz ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike

other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS
Twisted Evil ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...
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Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:
Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
17 comments

RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


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Two men were seriously injured in the explosion. Picture: Tess Follett Herald Sun
< Prev1 of 3Next >UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion
in Cannons Creek last night
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

Neighbours felt shockwaves as the blast ripped through the area
about 11pm,
with one of the men losing both of his legs in the accident.

The blast happened at a gathering of family and friends where the men in
their 20s were mixing commonly bought chemicals in a metal tin, with up
to 12 others standing back.

When asked if the explosion was caused by an amateur bomb,
Arson Squad Senior Detective Cameron Lunny said:
"I'd call it an improvised explosive device".
"It's been likened to a huge thunder clap from what I understand," he said.
He said the men were just experimenting with the chemicals, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, and that nothing sinister was at play.

Related Coverage

In Pictures:
Injured men airlifted from backyard explosion

Raid: Fears missing guns in the wrong hands
$200k: Magnifying glass may have started fire
Train station: Police search for missing teen
Victorian duo critical after explosion The Australian, 2 hours ago
Legs blown off in chemical explosion Courier Mail, 4 hours ago
Girl dies in cremation blast Herald Sun, 2 Aug 2011
Cyprus Naval Base Blast NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011
Two men burned in blast at pub Courier Mail, 21 Jun 2011

"They were just having a bit of a muck around I think,'' Sen Det Lunny said.
"There's certainly no indication there was anything apart from experimenting."
The 23-year-old Cannons Creek man and 24-year-old from Pakenham were
standing over the mixture, trying to bury it when it went off.

No-one else was hurt and there was no property damaged,
despite the strength of the blast.
Next door neighbour Arlene Trevethan said the explosion created shockwaves.
"It just shook the house. I came out and I thought it was a fire or something,'' she said.
Another neighbour initially thought an earthquake had struck.
Local Robert Dudgeon said he had heard similar explosions in the past, which police are investigating.
"There were others here over the past month or so,'' he said.
"One night there were three in a row. Whether it's the same source or not, I don't know."
Sen Det Lunny pleaded with others not to experiment with dangerous chemicals.
"We're getting a lot recently of people undertaking mixing of chemicals.
It just goes to show it's not a very smart thing to do and I just plead to
the people thinking about this not to do it - it's very, very dangerous."

He didn't say whether the injured men had sourced the recipe from the internet or whether charges would be laid.
The two men were airlifted to Melbourne hospitals where they remain in critical conditions.
Intensive care paramedic Ben Meadley said the men suffered extensive injuries.
"A 24 year-old man
suffered significant blast-type injures
to his legs and hands,
the type of injury you would more liken to
what you would see in a war situation

rather than in outer suburban Melbourne,''
he said.
"He also had severe airway burns and facial burns.''

The man was put into an induced coma
before he was flown to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a critical condition.

A 23-year-old man suffered burns to his face and arms and burns to his airway
which can cause swelling and restrict breathin.

Anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit Crime Stoppers
- with Shelley Hadfield
17 comments on this story


Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention 'that' thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts
, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 802367 another
of 'their' SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 888898 Very Unfortunate 'mates' SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 252310 ...


...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' Twisted Evil ...
Rolling Eyes

Critically injured men 'were making an IED'
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Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion in Cannons Creek
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
Listen to your masters,
'Jason'/'Billy Ruben', and,
"SHUT THE HELL UP,
about Australia!"
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David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben


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...and, what and whom Suspect Twisted Evil pig SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 844424 SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 5845 SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 317380

will they be watching for...
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11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News

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Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?


It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.


Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive
Very Happy Wink

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine

- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.

But first, here's what FitzSimons says:


It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece.
All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure,
and my best hope is that this story
might give hope
to those who contemplate it.
And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.

... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....


Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... Wink Cool...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
...remember, they have long controlled the
"PUBLIC RELEASE" Dates And TIMING of
IMPORTANT, RELATED, Scientific Discoveries...
Wink Cool


Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.


A team of researchers from the University of WA
and
Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.

The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"

Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.

The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.

"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( Laughing...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink Very Happy...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)


Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003


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Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH
.
Very Happy Wink

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true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
And for how many years
have I warned that my enemies
are also enemies of Australia
and Every Living Soul who
DOESN'T HATE THE CREATOR OF LIFE...

...Too BLOODY Many!


RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


...and, it's ALL THERE,
FREELY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE
who cares to put GOD'S WORD and
WHAT IS REAL IN THIS REAL WORLD,

ABOVE what GOD'S ENEMIES PREACH.
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Post  true lilly Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:14 am


NOW, 16 MODERATORS at DAVID ICKE Official Forums:
lookfar, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave,
measle_weasel, merlincove, ufochick,
mace, drhemp, thommo, scottishryan,
hunter77, weeman, atlantabizgal,
infidelyork, edelweiss pirate
...despite how many have STOPPED POSTING...

...maybe something to do with... SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 252310

This post was made by Billy Ruben who is currently on your ignore list.
So what do/does 'he/she/they' NOT GET?

Why the need to keep texting me about 'their' latest posts
in 'their' very personal, literal, war against me, as if I
and my opinions, matter more than, The War being fought?

I've often made it perfectly clear that I'm more than happy
to speak WITH any, real, individual person, about what I post,
but even when 'Billy/Jason' does ring and speak AT me, 'he'
can't be bothered remembering, where 'he's' supposed to be,
'who's' supposed to have told 'him' what, or that 'he' can't block
the number or location, from which 'he' makes 'his' worst threats,
from 'those who know and matter'.

And so, being a self proven, as well as self confessed,
NOT so Secret [anymore] Agenda Pushing, 'Agent'
of the BAD 'them'...yep, there is a GOOD 'them'...I can't
keep treating 'him/her/them' as if 'they' are not the very
same, very dangerously deceitful ilk, I first stated posting
warnings for real individuals to take heed of.

true lilly wrote:Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...

...got another call from him, to inform me of this thread...
...idiots...they couldn't even start to construct a believable tale...
...the price of that 'intelligence' supplied by idiots
Rolling Eyes ...anyway...

Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her
Wink 'mates', left, right and centre...
...and at such a time... SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 970510...Team Leader "tintin" will be miffed,
with 'YOU' and...
true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE!
But NOT in a nice, 'stupid, so innocent' way.
He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION
FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP.
And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum.
Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS,
and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER
and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate:
Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world
and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
'Funny', though, how
'they' can't take the joke, of
the intended victims laughing at the joy
of one more hour of Blessed Life...
...that is another WARNING, as 'they' are
committed to KILLING THEMSELVES TO KILL
(ALL WHO REFUSE), to BOW TO THE BEAST,
and so, DIE TWICE and FOREVER.


Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/victoria-police-monitoring-gangs-in-melbourne-following-british-riots/story-fn7x8me2-1226119207091
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke",
this thread is on the First Page.
So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts,
TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL
(by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and
BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE,
IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post.
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So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you",
THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB
and OTHER VIOLENCE
AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS

(the Stolen, Dehydrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT",
"you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home,
recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!
and the other one that wasn't mine, now lives here, happily,
on the 2 1/2 feet he has left),
gives people GOOD REASON TO READ
WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...
posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS,
THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry
IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE,
AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.

Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:
Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/two-critically-injured-in-chemical-blast-at-cannons-creek/story-fn7x8me2-1226119289534
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RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 567573 )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that
'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
Twisted Evil
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 252310


And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure Rolling Eyes
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH...Laughing...TO,
those 'cleaning them up'...
Razz ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike

other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS
Twisted Evil ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...
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...and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last.
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Post  mugglez Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:33 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
sabrage wrote:
true lilly wrote: It's a SERIOUS MATTER:
BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin boobies


QUIET Woman!!, el kabong chequed you, billy rueben mated you! That's Game Over. or are you too thick to comprehend that? You've been exposed completely as a lying fraud and a very nasty character assassin as well.

What do you have to say for yourself?

You're not a Prophet of God, that is apparent by the way you misuse and twist Holy scripture to fit your ignorance and bias.

Pipe it down and put a cork in it.....you're not folling anyone anymore....you have no authenticity, credibility or honour.

Like el kabong told you: Bullshit cannot withstand pressure. He and Billy crushed you like a stinkin' bug.


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THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE MATTER,ONCE SHE'S GONE,WE DO GOOD THREADS AGAIN,I LIKE THIS FORUM AND DAVID ICKE FORUM...AND APOLOGISE FOR THE STYLE OF VULGARNESS,BUT IT'S A BEAST I'M SLAYING,A VERY NASTY ONE,THANKYOU AGAIN,REGARDS,jASON...

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Thanx you billy. thumbs up

You have exposed her deceits and moral lapses in a very comprehensive and truthful manner. El Kabong has nailed her False Prophecys and misuse of holy scripture. She has Zero/0 Credibility.

Suzis dog don't hunt. Never did, never will.........
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Post  mugglez Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:37 am

true lilly wrote: TO,
those 'cleaning them up'... ..yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and [u]I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike
other's who 'bought' [b]'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last.

Yo Suzi aka 'tru lilly' !!!! you're the satanist, your Posts prove it. El Kabong and Billy Rueben have proved it. Your dog don't hunt. Never did, never will. Do a reality cheque if you can.

You ought to read the first commandment, not just lie about it.

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el kabong wrote:....I've asked you before if you comprehend these Concepts/Data, they are Core Concepts of YHWHs Bible, this is what the Jews teach and believe. This is what Yahshua/Jesus taught to the gentiles as a Jewish Rabbi........Yahshua/Jesus taught Torah in the Synagogues and public places.................. thumbs up


Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity



As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.



Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet/Alephbet ........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemisphereical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....


Try to tell the suzi/truth lilly, it will be a liberating experience, let go of your trivial past and embrace the NOW. Your Post was rediculous, everybodys been done wrong, whast makes you so special? Get over yourself. thumbs up
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Post  MoMo Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:23 pm

true lilly wrote: rolling pin

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao rolf cheers

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
thumbs up lmao rolf wave wacky boobies tholms


One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.


In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.



Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet. thumbs up

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.
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Post  true lilly Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:12 pm

Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to
The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.


But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried
, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.

The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.


FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.

...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,

BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,

'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.


Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but,
to Know, Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY
,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.

And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.
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Post  true lilly Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:15 pm

From "Ciggy's" Rolling Eyes Forum:
re the P.M. from 'Billy Ruben' WHO SENDS DEATH THREATS
true lilly » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:07 pm

Ha, forgot about this joint, and seeing as it
keeps logging/locking me out, haven't cared to bother with it, but as
"YOU" are still stalking me all over the NET, why not share what it is
about my posts "YOU" ARE DESPERATE NO ONE READ...
No time re-format all, but here's some of the topic links:

...
...but don't worry, I don't have time to re-write, re-format, and re-post
at yet another site that I can't simply transfer my years of work onto,
and we also know that independent individuals are blocked from accessing
my email address (even when it isn't hijacked by FAKE 'suzy ryan's', trying
to paint ME as someone I am NOT), so it's only by LIVE word of mouth, oh,
and those MUCH BIGGER that who "YOU" think controls the NET, that anything
I have to show, gets out there...to those MUCH BIGGER that who "YOU" think
controls the NET...which probably means, "YOU" should worry "YOURSELVES"
to death...
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Post  sharky Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:30 pm

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:YEP, there is an AWFUL LOT of ALTERING,
CHANGING and INTERFERING with the
Threads, Posts and
COMPUTERS and PHONES of INDIVIDUALS
going on latelyI tend to refrain from explaining too much these days, as newbies know they can ask for clarifications, and the rest, well if they haven't twigged by now, likely never will, but those who know, know, if I post it, it's worth looking into.
true lilly wrote: SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Flag200c

I hate joooz, the Torah and Israel.........

rolling pin SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Tropas-nazis I vill take the joooooz holy scripture and deform it to fit my antisemitc/anti Israel agenda.........sieg hiel!!!!!! SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Nazis rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin

SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Nazipersec SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 K8820


sheeesh suzi/lilly, tell us sumthin' we don't know. You're a liar. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.pdf

Theology and Race

AT NOON ON SATURDAY, MAY 6, 1939, a group of Protestant theologians, pastors,
and churchgoers gathered at the historic Wartburg Castle, resonant with Lutheran
and nationalist significance, to celebrate the official opening of the Institute
for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Church
Life (Institut zur Erforschung und Beseitigung des jüdischen Einfl usses auf
das deutsche kirchliche Leben). The Institute’s goals were both political and
theological. Seeking to create a dejudaized church for a Germany that was in
the process of ridding Europe of all Jews, it developed new biblical interpretations
and liturgical materials. In the six years of its existence, as the Nazi regime
carried out its genocide of the Jews, the Institute redefi ned Christianity
as a Germanic religion whose founder, Jesus, was no Jew but rather had fought
valiantly to destroy Judaism, falling as victim to that struggle. Germans were
now called upon to be the victors in Jesus’s own struggle against the Jews, who
were said to be seeking Germany’s destruction.


Most members of the Institute, particularly its academic director, Walter
Grundmann, professor of New Testament at the University of Jena, regarded
their work as being in the theological avant-garde, addressing and resolving
a problem that had long plagued Christian theology: how to establish clear and distinct boundaries between earliest Christianity and Judaism and eliminate all traces of Jewish influence from contemporary Christian theology and religious practice. As a predominantly younger generation of scholars, trained by Germany’s leading scholars of early Christianity—many members of the Institute were students of the distinguished Tübingen professor, Gerhard Kittel, himself a Nazi who produced antisemitic propaganda1—they saw themselves able to recover the historically genuine, non-Jewish Jesus and a Christian message compatible with contemporary German identity. Theirs was a goal of purification, authenticity, and theological revolution, all in the name of historical-critical methods and commitment to Germanness, to be achieved by eradicating the Jewish from the Christian. A Christian message tainted by Jewishness could not serve Germans, nor could a Jewish message be the accurate teaching of Jesus.
The Institute’s goals were stated forthrightly at its opening by Grundmann, who delivered the keynote lecture on “The Dejudaization of the Religious Life as the Task of German Theology and Church.” The present era, he declared, was similar to the Reformation: Protestants had to overcome Judaism just as Luther had overcome Catholicism. “The elimination of Jewish infl uence on German life is the urgent and fundamental question of the present German religious situation.”


Modern New Testament scholarship had made apparent the “deformation of New Testament ideas into Old Testament preconceptions, so that now angry recognition of the Jewishness in the Old Testament and in parts of the New Testament has arisen, obstructing access to the Bible for innumerable German people.”2
The Bible would have to be purified, Grundmann continued, restored to its pristine condition, to proclaim the truth about Jesus: that he sought the destruction of Judaism.


Munich’s Cardinal Faulhaber, for example, delivered a series of Advent sermons in 1933 attacking the German Christian movement, but his argument, almost identical to what the Confessing Church leaders came to argue, was that the Old Testament need not be eliminated as a Jewish book, as some German Christians advocated; it was, rather, an anti-Jewish book, Faulhaber insisted, since the prophets were constantly condemning Israel for its sinful ways.7 Faulhaber’s objection, then, was not to the German Christians’ antisemitism, but to their failure to realize that the Old Testament itself was on their side.8

ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY
Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting
anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfi lled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14


In reality Nazism accomplished but few of its goals. But in one area, that of the Jewish question, political myth achieved its purpose to the full. Here the regime met the least opposition from those who in other matters were hardly in accord with Nazism—be it intellectuals, the churches or public opinion in the Reich or abroad. The Jew served as the focal point round which Nazism turned and on which the structural process of value-transformation and reversal of meanings took place. Among the values and meanings that were transformed, the symbol itself was turned into substance; consequently, the negation of Judaism had to be transformed into the annihilation of the Jew, this time not spiritually but rather physically, not symbolically but in substance.” Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption,

and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.
Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fi ghter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?
Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.
Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European
culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political signifi cance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19
..........................


The error Of Replacement Theology

http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm

Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises?

Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former.


The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans.


Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group.


Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church.


The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ.

Replacement Theology

Its Origins, Teachings and Errors

By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries

(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)


http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

Definition

Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”

Perhaps Martin Luther articulated this position most eloquently when he wrote: “For such ruthless wrath of God is sufficient evidence that they [i.e., the Jewish people] assuredly have erred and gone astray. Even a child can comprehend this. For one dare not regard God as so cruel that he would punish his own people so long, so terrible, so unmercifully … Therefore this work of wrath is proof that the Jews, surely rejected by God, are no longer his people, and neither is he any longer their God” (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], p. 265).

Common threads that weave their way through the numerous variations of supersessionism are (1) that God is finished with Israel as a nation, and (2) that the promises He made to Israel in the Old Testament have been inherited by the Church. (However, most Replacement theologians are reluctant to say that the Church - which is largely in apostasy today - has also inherited the curses and judgments that God pronounced on Israel for her apostasy.)

One defender of Replacement Theology writes: “The Jewish nation no longer has a place as the special people of God; that place has been taken by the Christian community which fulfills God’s purpose for Israel” (Bruce Waltke, “Kingdom Promises as Spiritual,” in Continuity and Discontinuity: Perspectives on the Relationship Between the Testaments, Ed. John S. Feinberg [Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 1987] p. 275). This is how one evangelical theologian summarized the essence of supersessionism in a paper he presented at the Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting a few years ago: “The issue is whether national Israel as an administrative structure is still in the plan of God” (“A Future for Israel in Covenant Theology: The Untold Story” by R. Todd Mangum, Instructor in Historical and Systematic Theology at Biblical Theological Seminary in Hatfield, Pennsylvania [November 16, 2000], p. 20.


THE END TIME SOLUTION TO
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY!
By Rabbi/Brother Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky


http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12

The hideous falsehood known as replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust. As history clearly demonstrates, Martin Luther, and other Protestant reformers blueprinted both the call, and the plans for the annihilation of the Jewish nation from Europe, and later the world by providing "so called Christians", with biblical justification to perpetrate genocide on world Jewry. Adolph Hitler knew full well that he could find theological approval, and support from these church folks. The inbred functionalism of this spiritual cancer amongst those that preach Yahshua is so widespread that it cannot be fully reversed, and eliminated until Yahshua’s millennial reign begins shortly when He returns to the earth. Even such seemingly benign church doctrines such as "Kingdom Now" theology or "Dominion" theology, where the so called "church" will christianize the world through the establishment of the bible as a global constitution, and whereby all world powers, and authorities will be won to, and taken over by Christendom, are nothing more than new attempts at replacing the "troublesome Jews". Wasn’t this flawed global christianization program, whereby Yahshua would merely take over a globally loyal populace converted through church efforts, already tried numerous times? Historically they were called the Crusades, Inquisitions, and Pogroms. Was it not the Crusaders who were attempting to take the globe by the sword, and convert, and subdue it by the gospel?

The theology of "Dominion Now" or "Kingdom Now", is nothing but a papal farce, designed to enlist Protestants in a new age attempt to liquidate the Jewish race, by theology rather than by a sword. They believe twentieth century man will not respond favorably to any elimination of the Jewish nation via bloodletting. Therefore in these last days, we see a major resurgence in "church" theology, designed to subdue, and eliminate the Jew. In these various applications of replacement theology, the Jew has no future whatsoever unless he agrees to become one with "the church", and assimilate his precious customs, feasts, seventh day Sabbaths, and the rest of his national identity through incorporation or more accurately through disappearance, and integration within "the church".

These hideous theologies call anything Jewish to be anti Christ, and legalistic. Jewish practices are not welcome in their church systems. It is simply fascinating to me that "the church" has this insatiable desire to institute biblical law, and church sovereignty over the globe by spreading Yahuwah’s laws, when one of the major errors within Christianity is the very rejection, and the denial of the validity of first covenant instruction in New Covenant times.

The so called "church" system has repeatedly, and pridefully proclaimed to its adherents that the Torah or the laws of first covenant Israel are passed away, and nailed to the cross, and have therefore been replaced by the second covenant law, which is love, baby, love. In other words, this man made ecclesiastical organization started, funded, and headquartered in Rome, now wants to force their paganized Christendom down the throats of the worlds populace, with obedience to THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, and other teachings all based on the Decalogue, all the while instructing her very own members that it is not applicable to the New Covenant "church". Now you talk about confusion! How can a man made ecclesiastical system that is boastfully, and wrongfully antinomian (anti-Torah), at it’s very core theology, force the world’s populace to submit to rules, and regulations that they themselves loath as having preceded from the Jewish despot named Yahuwah, and His Jews? Remember that in true replacement theology a pagan blonde haired, and blue eyed European, pork eating Jesus (the English translation of the sun deity Zeus), has replaced Yahuwah the Father as LORD (from the pagan deity Lourdes), over his "church" (from the pagan circular ritual conducted by the Celts).

The most disturbing part of all this is that replacement theology continues to spread overtly, and covertly in these last days seemingly unchecked, and undetected by born again folks of all denominations, as well as by Messianic Jews. As this study progresses you will find, and discover the alarming fact that modern day Messianic Judaism has in most cases fallen into the same trap of replacement theology that they loath, and despise. Messianic Judaism has every right to loath replacement theology. However through error, and pride they not only forsake the true solution to the error of replacement theology, (which is readily available by studying the scriptures accurately with an open mind), but worse yet, they have unknowingly become accomplices to the doctrine itself.

Before we demonstrate the biblically prescribed means for the elimination of this hideous creed, we will learn a few more insights into this doctrine of replacement theology. The first error of this false doctrine is that the church has replaced Israel (the Jews) as the historic continuation of the people of Israel. According to this line of reasoning, Jewish Israel ceased from being a people, with a historic relevancy to Yahuwah at Pentecost in 33 AD. In other words, a total cessation of all eternal promises, and blessings which had been promised to the Jews, had come about because of the New Covenant "church", who unilaterally declared the first covenant promises to the Jews null, and void. The truth of course is that the physical descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, had, and will continue to have a crucial, and vital role in the historical, and redemptive purposes of the Father. Replacement theology declares that the Jews are no different than any other people group, and that their chosen status was self appointed, and has ceased when their "European" non Jewish (Jesus) went to the cross.

The truth of course is that no other nation before or since has been earmarked by Yahuwah to work out His redemptive, and earthly will, as has Israel (12 tribes).

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Post  true lilly Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:41 pm

true lilly wrote:So where were all ROEBUCK'S Associates
when he needed "their" help?
Couldn't even get a Lawyer to show up.
His Last Associate Left him ALONE.
KNOWING a 6 story window was his
ONLY WAY "OUT"!

true lilly wrote:"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...
a LOVER of LIES, PLAGIARIST
(NOT a CREATIVE bone in him),
ANTI CREATOR, ANTI CREATION,
ANTI LIFE, ANTI TRUTH, and,
ANTI ANYONE DOING or RECEIVING
JUSTICE...
because NONE of HIS SELF GLORYING
is Justly earned or maintained...

ALL HE DOES is HUNT SACRIFICIAL Lambs
TO THROW to HIS WOLVES, and their
BLOODY REMAINS AT OTHER
WEAK, POWERLESS, INNOCENTS...

and, CAN'T SHUT UP about
WHAT A GREAT JOKE IT IS TO HIM
Evil or Very Mad
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3207
EVIL!

nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!

true lilly wrote:SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 341151-call-of-duty
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA

Severe storm warning for Victoria
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6:27AM
Nathan Mawby

UPDATE 7am:

STORMS and lightning sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau

warning the worst is yet to come.
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Biggest war of them all
VIDEO: Gamers turned out at midnight for
the launch of the highly anticipated
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

P.S. these are ALL on Today's MURDOCH Herald Sun
FRONT PAGE.
I 'googled' true lilly images and got this:
by barnacle bill

Thank you...and when YET MORE folk Google me, YET MORE WILL FIND,
that VIOLENCE and LIES are all "YOU" have to attack me with, but still
MUST KEEP ATTACKING me, because "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS
to what I FREELY SHARE - REAL WORLD EVIDENCE of
THE VERY BEST NEWS EVER!
Wink Very Happy

P.S. and for an "anti" DAVID ICKE Forum, "YOU" spend an AWFUL LOT
of time and effort, ATTACKING THE ONE POSTER HERE, WITH THE
INSIDE DIRT on THE "STAR POSTER"=PUPPET MASTER of David Icke:
"tintin" a.k.a. "Aarnout van der Plooge".

"YOU" KNOW, THE GUY who with INSANE PUBLIC PASSION, DEMANDS
THE DESTRUCTION of JEWS AND ISRAEL
, WHILE ALSO PUBLICLY,
LOUDLY and OFTEN, having STATED THAT:
"AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL ISRAEL"=AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL TARGET.

P.P.S.
Oh and WHY MUST "YOU" CONTINUE to SPAM such bald faced lies:
barnacle bill wrote:LIES that "this is a true lilly quote":SERIOUS MATTER: BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS - Page 2 Flag200c
I hate joooz, the Torah and Israel.........
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I
vill take the joooooz holy scripture and deform it to fit my
antisemitic/anti Israel agenda.........sieg hiel!!!!!!
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BECAUSE "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENT...and IN FACT,
ADD TO the case I've made...

true lilly wrote:YEP, there is an AWFUL LOT of ALTERING,
CHANGING and INTERFERING with the
Threads, Posts and
COMPUTERS and PHONES of INDIVIDUALS

going
on lately I tend to refrain from explaining too much these days, as
newbies know they can ask for clarifications, and the rest, well if they
haven't twigged by now, likely never will, but those who know, know, if
I post it, it's worth looking into.
See, "THEY" DEMAND
THE WORLD BELIEVE
(AGAINST ALL REAL WORLD EVIDENCE),
that,
WHEN GOD SAID:
FROM THE BEGINNING,
ALL THE WORLD,
ALL THE EARTH,
ALL PEOPLES,
GOD DID "not" MEAN IT,
so that the world will
DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH
and JOIN "THEM" in PERMANENT DEATH.


Oh and while I think of it:
why, "The 99% Campaign"...
because GOD SAID He'd Preserve Alive,
90-95%, to re-plant, re-build and help
HEAL ALL THE WORLD
,
BUT "THEY" DON'T WANT ANY HEALING
and, as "cori/tintin" PROUDLY BOAST,
"THEY" WANT 99.9% of ALL HUMANS DEAD.


SEE "THEY" WORSHIP "THEIR" NUMBers Game.
The Majority NUMBers "win".
"winning" TO "THEM" IS DYING TO KILL.

And yes, "THEY" ARE THOSE WHO ATTACK ME,
FOR SHOWING that GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES,
that includes, not only preserving enough
humans
to heal the world, but also RESURRECTING Those
who died the first death, but repented of having
denied The Holy Spirit of Truth.


P.S. SOD, can you please include
the USUALLY COMMON Forum Feature
that INCLUDES THE LINK TO QUOTED POSTS?

Yeah I know, it would defeat the purpose of
outnumbering this one real individuals posts
with "tintin's" Multiple I.D. OFF TOPIC,
SPAM-BOT CRAP that FLOODS OUT what "THEY"
ARE TERRIFIED OTHERS MAY READ and CONSIDER,
...that's why I ask, and DON'T expect.
Razz
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