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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:09 pm

Albrecht: Who is an Aborigine?


Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, February 07, 12 (12:21 am)




Paul Albrecht AM in his new book asks an interesting question on which I make no comment:



<blockquote>
When I began my ministry in central Australia in the late 1950s, only
people of full Aboriginal descent were categorised as Aborigines. At the
same time, they were declared to be wards of the state so that special
assistance could be provided…


On the other hand, people whose ancestry included a person or persons of
Aboriginal ancestry and another race, for example, Caucasian, Chinese,
Afghan, were not classed as Aborigines, and therefore not wards of the
state. They were Australian citizens who could vote, own property, drink
in a pub, buy alcohol, etc. At that time, many of these people of mixed
Aboriginal/Caucasian or Chinese or Afghan descent took umbrage if they
were referred to as Aborigines.



Later, when a change of government policy provided benefits to
Aborigines not available to other Australians, but without the
restrictions which previously had applied to Aboriginal people, many of
these same people chose to identify as Aborigines…



The powers of the Commonwealth to make laws on behalf of Aborigines, and
provide special funds for Aborigines in areas of health, housing,
education, economic development, etc., meant there was also the need for
an Australia-wide definition of who was an Aborigine. In the event, the
Commonwealth adopted the following definition, based on race:


<blockquote>

An Aborigine is a person descended from the original inhabitants of this
land, who chooses to identify as an Aborigine, and who is accepted as
such by his/her group…</blockquote>
The current definition makes it clear who is an Aborigine, for legal
purposes, and therefore eligible for the special assistance provided by
governments for Aborigines only… However, the definition says nothing
about Aboriginal culture, or the cultural differences between the more
traditional Aborigines and those who have lost much, if not all, of
their culture… (This) has helped to father a number of negative
consequences. For example:


<blockquote>It has helped create monochromatic policies and programmes. While some
of these have been appropriate and helpful to Aborigines who have lost
their culture, they have been unhelpful to, in fact they have often been
harmful to, the more traditional Aborigines…




It has helped to gloss over the fact that there are fundamental cultural
differences between Aborigines whose attitudes, lifestyles, and values
have been fundamentally shaped by their traditional culture, and those
who have lost their traditional language and culture, and whose
attitudes, lifestyles and values have been shaped, either by their
experience of living among other Australians as Australians, or by their
experience of living on the fringes of Australian society, and not
being accepted by Australians.


It has helped gloss over the fact that while both the more traditional
and some non-traditional Aborigines have needs, these needs differ
greatly…




It has helped to silence the voice of the more traditional Aborigines.
In traditional Aboriginal societies, only designated leaders could speak
on behalf of their group, and these leaders always represented only
themselves… Yet the government chose to ignore this cultural fact ... .
Rather, a small group of Aborigines, who by and large had no knowledge
of traditional Aboriginal culture and didn’t speak an Aboriginal
language, but who had learnt to manipulate the system established by
Parliament, succeeded in influencing policy and effectively setting the
whole agenda for Australian and Aboriginal relations.
</blockquote>

I believe it can be shown both empirically and statistically, that the
Aborigines who have benefited most from current Government programmes
are the Aborigines who have lost their traditional culture, and whose
values and lifestyle approximate those of other Australians.


</blockquote>



(Apologies, but we cannot accept readers’ comments. But please read on at the link.)
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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:10 pm

Brown now denies what he once said: that Gillard broke her word


Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, February 07, 12 (05:48 am)




Was Bob Brown deceiving us then about the deceiving Julia Gillard, or his he deceiving us now?



On January 11, Greens leader Brown accused the Prime Minister of
breaking her “absolute commitment” to a forestry deal he had earlier
described as ”shameful”:



<blockquote>

BOB BROWN: Those areas have not been protected. The logging has
continued. In fact when I spoke to the Prime Minister about this in
December, despite her absolute commitment to an immediate end to all logging to these high conservation value forests many
months earlier, over 10 square kilometres of these forests had been
flattened by Forestry Tasmania, largely for the giant marauding
Malaysian company Ta Ann.


STEPHEN DZIEDZIC: Logging is happening in less than 1 per cent, though,
of the 430,000 hectares that are protected in order to fulfil existing
contracts. Are you refusing to compromise here?


BOB BROWN: No I’m wanting the Prime Minister to keep her word.
... And the commitment was, under section 27 of the agreement the Prime
Minister and Premier Giddings signed, that if there was a need to
fulfil contracts to find wood in these areas, then the Commonwealth
would compensate.



The Prime Minister and the Premier signed off on it but then they stood
limply aside while Forestry Tasmania, in the service of this Malaysian
corporation Ta Ann, has simply continued to destroy these magnificent
parts of Australia’s World Her- what should be World Heritage.

</blockquote>


On January 13, he repeated his allegation that Gillard had broken her word:


<blockquote>Many Australians will feel very aggrieved - not just that there is a breach of honour involved here by the Premier and the Prime Minister - but at the destruction of these great, wild forests.
</blockquote>

On January 16 he made clear he was talking about a promise made by Gillard, and broken by her:


<blockquote>On Friday, Forestry Tasmania, the extremist loggers
outfit which has trashed the Gillard commitment, stated that these
coupes (logging areas) represent less than half of one per cent of the
total area identified for interim protection… Today, the prime minister is using the same statistic to justify her own renege on the promise.

</blockquote>

But forget all that.



Now Bob Brown wants to rescue the drowning Gillard by accusing people who criticise her of being “sexist”. And last night he denied Gillard had broken her word on the forestry deal:


<blockquote>BOB BROWN: Somebody had to form government in this
minority situation. She had the gumption to do it and the wherewithal to
do it and she stuck by her work with the Greens in delivering. And as
Tony Windsor said ...


EMMA ALBERICI: Not entirely though. Not on logging in Tasmania.


BOB BROWN: That wasn’t in that agreement with me. That’s an agreement she made with the Tasmanian Premier and ...


EMMA ALBERICI: Which she has betrayed?



BOB BROWN: No, which has been betrayed by Forestry Tasmania,
which is a Rambo organisation out of control where the Premier of
Tasmania Lara Giddings needs to bring them back into control.

</blockquote>

Brown now absolving Gillard after earlier damning her suggests to me
that his attacks on her credibility over logging were insincere, and
little more than a ploy to manufacture some dispute between the Greens
and Labor, to the political advantage of both.



But now that Brown may lose his meal ticket in the pliant PM, he tries
to erase from our memory his own charge that she breaks her promise.
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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:11 pm

They want Australia without the Australians?


Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, February 07, 12 (12:05 am)




They are mad, of
course. Leave it to our multiculturalists - or, more accurately,
cultural separatists - and we will soon share nothing but an address:

<blockquote>WORK on a $900 million Korean suburb on Hobart’s Eastern Shore will start within a year after winning final planning approval yesterday.


Billed as an “integrated lifestyle, education, and residential
development”, ParanVille will be one of the biggest residential
subdivisions developed in the state and promises to give the struggling
building industry a massive boost.


It is expected to attract residents from Korea, China and Japan who are
keen to escape harsh northern winters and the threat of nuclear
accidents, its backers said yesterday.



The 158-hectare rural site between Howrah and Rokeby approved by the
Tasmanian Planning Commission will become home to more than 2000 new
residents and several hundred language students and will generate up to
1000 jobs during the 10-year construction period.




</blockquote>

(Thanks to reader Daniel.)
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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:14 pm

The curious reappearance of Paul Connor on the ABC

Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, February 07, 12 (12:04 am)

After three years of a no-surrender total fast for the planet, Paul Connor should be dead:
<blockquote>And our demands are for world leaders to commit to
stabilising greenhouse gases in the atmosphere at 350 parts per million
and to commit to providing at least $160 billion per year to the
developing world to help them adapt to and mitigate climate change.

Four Australians are committed to the full hunger strike and then we
have a number of supporters doing solidarity fasts of between three days
to two weeks in support of us… Well it’s indefinite and the only guarantee that we’re making is that we’ll come off the fast if our demands are met and other than that we really are making no promises.

</blockquote>Neither demand was ever met, so I’ve long learned to live with the
belief that, alas, Connor is no longer with us. And such a shame, too,
since had he but lived a little longer he’d have soon have realised he
was starving himself for dud cause, with the world refusing to warm now
for 15 years.

But good news! Last night, immediately after the ABC TV news reported on
once-in-a-generation snow in Rome and a deadly freeze over Europe, it
reported on a demonstration starring ... Paul Connor! Alive! Alive and chained to some poor bloke’s drilling rig!

<blockquote>Paul Connor and Natasha Mills were protesting against a coal exploration operation by Mantle Mining in Bacchus Marsh.
</blockquote>
Of course, I am glad to see that by some astonishing medical miracle or
perhaps a Tibetan breatharian technique of surviving on air alone,
Connor is still among those present, albeit unable to shake an apparent
delusion that he’s feeling strangely warm.


But I’m puzzled that years ater he started his total fast Connor still
appeared even now to have failed to draw the logical conclusion from
the curious refusal of the planet to heat as he once insisted it would.

Maybe Connor was just lightheaded for lack of food, or lack of oxygen from being chained at high altitude to a drill.

So my questions are really for the ABC, which has no such excuses.

<blockquote>- Why did the ABC last night not report the much bigger story of Connor’s survival, since it did last convince us he’d be gonner if we continued to reject his demands?

- Why did the ABC give Connor and his fellow activists minutes of
precious air-time to outline their unscientific and ill-consdered views
on the evil of coal exploration, when the only reason Connor had caught
their attention was by the commission of what police at the scene
described as a criminal offence - locking himself to someone’s vehicle?
Doesn’t this simply encourage lawbreaking by activists?


- Why was the report on Connor’s protest so ludicrously one-sided, when
the previous item about Europe alone suggested he might have backed the
wrong horse?

- Why was this puff-piece on green protesters immediately followed by
another, equally one-sided, about other green protesters from a fringe
environmental group?

</blockquote>Your ABC? No, it’s theirs.

A sceptics’ crime is a warmist’s virtue


Andrew Bolt – Monday, February 06, 12 (03:56 pm)


Sierra Club attacks:

<blockquote>Climate Skeptic: Paid for By Big Oil

New information has revealed that Dr. Pat Michaels, a climate skeptic, is funded by the oil industry.

</blockquote>
Sierra Club accepts:

<blockquote>The Sierra Club disclosed Thursday that it received over $26 million from natural-gas giant Chesapeake Energy Corp. between 2007 and 2010 to help the group’s campaign against coal-fired power plants.
</blockquote>
Mote, meet beam.


UPDATE


Newt Gingrich then:

<blockquote>In 2008 Gingrich appeared in an ad with then-House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi urging action on climate change. “We do agree that
our country must take action to address climate change,” he said,
sitting on a sofa with Pelosi in front of the U.S. Capitol…

Earlier in his career, Gingrich co-sponsored a 1989 bill stating that climate change was “resulting from human activities.”

</blockquote>
(Video of that ad here.)


Newt Gingrich now:


<blockquote>Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Wednesday said it’s unclear whether man-made global warming is real.


“I believe we don’t know,” he told Fox News’ Sean Hannity in a Wednesday night interview…


The former House speaker recently said that the ad was “the dumbest thing I’ve done in recent years.”

</blockquote>
(Thanks to readers Alan RM Jones and Peter.)

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Warmist’s defamation removed. But no apology for his baseless sliming

Andrew Bolt – Monday, February 06, 12 (02:00 pm)


The university-backed The Conversation has now removed a defamatory claim - a mere figment of Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg’s too-warm imagination - and his utterly baseless suggestion that I corruptly accept cash-for-comment
for questioning global warmists, but it has done so without yet
offering the most basic remedy of an apology. No apology yet from
Hoegh-Guldberg, either, for sliming a sceptic rather than rebutting him.
Shame on him.

I’ll keep you posted on further developments.

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Is Bob Brown sexist by defending Gillard like this?


Andrew Bolt – Monday, February 06, 12 (12:20 pm)




Greens leader Bob Brown
makes one of the silliest interventions yet in Labor’s leadership
battle in a desperate bid to preserve his meal ticket:


<blockquote>GREENS leader Bob Brown says criticism of Julia Gillard is sexist and unfair …
“Quite a bit of the criticism is sexist and unfair and unrelenting and
the Prime Minister needs a bit of a break from that,” he told
journalists in Canberra.

</blockquote>

What, “quite a bit” of the criticism is sexist and unfair? To criticise
her extraordinary deceits and bropken promises, for instance, is now
sexist? To criticise her for her lethal bungling of boat people
policy, the crippling of live cattle exports, the fire--starting of mini
race riots, the mass rorting of the school hall program, her attacks on
the free press and free speech and so much more is proof of the
critics’ “sexism”? By the way, did Brown ever call for John Howard to be
given “a bit of a break” from the far more furious criticism he was
given by the media? Why not? Is Brown perhaps sexist?



Brown continues:


<blockquote>“I just think the degree of relentless criticism on
this Prime Minister coming from male commentators, it’s probably all
subconscious, but is sexist and quite ridiculous at times.”

</blockquote>

I’m puzzled. When some of those male commentators praised Gillard, were they sexist then? Or are we only sexist now that we’re criticising her for the deceit and incompetence since? And when female commentators criticise Gillard in exactly the same terms as we men, why doesn’t Brown call them sexist, too? Or is Brown perhaps sexist?



On he goes:



<blockquote>He said voters believed Ms Gillard had
handled herself well in difficult circumstances. “People are incredibly
impressed with her ability to deal with what is chucked at her, and so
am I,” he said.

</blockquote>


“Incredibly impressed”? In fact, the latest Newspoll has satisfaction
with Gillard falling from 36 per cent before Christmas to 33 per cent,
with dissatisfaction with her steady on 55 per cent. Is Brown perhaps a
fantasist as well as sexist?




This bit will stun you:





<blockquote>Senator Brown criticised independent MP Andrew
Wilkie, saying the House of Representatives crossbencher had been
“naïve” to make the passage of poker machine reforms a condition of his
support for Labor, which he had now rescinded.


“We didn’t ask for commitments, for example, to ensure that a parliament
pass an issue in a period of minority government,” he said.



“I think that was going a step too far. How can you ask a minority government to ensure that a parliament passes anything?”

</blockquote>

What, like a carbon dioxide tax? Here’s Brown signing the infamous
leadership deal with Gillard that ensured her the Greens support, and
had her disastrously breaking her election promise not to impose the tax
that only the Greens demanded:




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Brown is a sexist, a fantasist and the most brazen hypocrite. If he expects voters to buy this stuff, he’s also a fool.




He also has an undeclared vested interest in the Labor battle - a Greens
patsy as Prime Minister would suit him best. Michelle Grattan explains:


<blockquote>Rudd PM would be urged by some colleagues to more sharply differentiate the government from the Greens. The Liberal claim that Bob Brown is the real PM is biting in the electorate, according to Labor MPs.



Having a stoush with the Greens would not be particularly dangerous for Rudd.

</blockquote>


The more Brown argues for Gillard, the clearer he advertises that Gillard is a Greens stooge.



UPDATE



Reader AC:


<blockquote>On second read, maybe he’s saying Rudd is a sexist.
</blockquote>







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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:59 pm

Gee, 'you' Mob really have no answer for this thread, do 'you';

Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

No wonder 'you' buried it
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Anyway, back to that "time, times and half a time" thing
that preaching, The 'out of Egypt' Apostasy, attempts to
hide, even from 'the very elect', whom 'they' can't deceive.

Oz=O'Zion, Antarctica=Lebanon, AS GOD DESCRIBE OF and
From The Beginning, so that we could also SEE ALL HIS
WARNINGS and PROMISES, right to 'the end', BEING FULFILLED.

2 KINGS 19:

23-
I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.

24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.

(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)
Now I DARE you, to read The Full, Descriptive Meanings
of EVERY WORD:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ki&c=19&v=1&t=KJV#1

1
And it came about that as soon as King Hez·e·ki´ah
heard, he immediately ripped his garments apart and covered himself
with sackcloth and came into the house of Jehovah.
2
Further, he sent E·li´a·kim, who was over the
household, and Sheb´nah the secretary and the older men of the priests
covered with sackcloth to Isaiah the prophet the son of A´moz.
3
And they proceeded to say to him: “This is what
Hez·e·ki´ah has said, ‘This day is a day of distress and of rebuke and
of scornful insolence; for the sons have come as far as the womb’s
mouth, and there is no power to give birth.
4
Perhaps Jehovah your God will hear all the words
of Rab´sha·keh, whom the king of As·syr´i·a his lord sent to taunt the
living God, and he will actually call him to account for the words that
Jehovah your God has heard. And you must lift up prayer in behalf of the
remnant that are to be found.’”


5
So the servants of King Hez·e·ki´ah came in to Isaiah.
6
Then Isaiah said to them: “This is what YOU should say to YOUR
lord, ‘This is what Jehovah has said: “Do not be afraid because of the
words that you have heard with which the attendants of the king of
As·syr´i·a spoke abusively of me.
7
Here I am putting a spirit in him, and he must
hear a report and return to his own land; and I shall certainly cause
him to fall by the sword in his own land.”’”


8
After that Rab´sha·keh returned and found the king
of As·syr´i·a fighting against Lib´nah; for he had heard that he had
pulled away from La´chish.
9
He heard it said respecting Tir·ha´kah the king of
E·thi·o´pi·a: “Here he has come out to fight against you.” Therefore he
sent messengers again to Hez·e·ki´ah, saying:
10
“This is what YOU men
should say to Hez·e·ki´ah the king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in
whom you are trusting deceive you, saying: “Jerusalem will not be given
into the hand of the king of As·syr´i·a.”
11
Look! You yourself have heard what the kings of
As·syr´i·a did to all the lands by devoting them to destruction; and
will you yourself be delivered?
12
Have the gods of the nations that my forefathers
brought to ruin delivered them, even Go´zan and Ha´ran and Re´zeph and
the sons of E´den that were in Tel-as´sar?
13
Where is he—the king of Ha´math and the king of Ar´pad and the king of the cities of Seph·ar·va´im, He´na and Iv´vah?’”


14
Then Hez·e·ki´ah took the letters out of the hand
of the messengers and read them, after which Hez·e·ki´ah went up to the
house of Jehovah and spread it out before Jehovah.
15
And Hez·e·ki´ah began to pray before Jehovah and
say: “O Jehovah the God of Israel, sitting upon the cherubs, you alone
are the [true] God of all the kingdoms of the earth. You yourself have
made the heavens and the earth.
16
Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear. Open your
eyes, O Jehovah, and see, and hear the words of Sen·nach´er·ib that he
has sent to taunt the living God.
17
It is a fact, O Jehovah, the kings of As·syr´i·a have devastated the nations and their land.
18
And they have consigned their gods to the fire,
because they were no gods, but the workmanship of man’s hands, wood and
stone; so that they destroyed them.
19
And now, O Jehovah our God, save us, please, out
of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, O
Jehovah, are God alone.”


20
And Isaiah the son of A´moz proceeded to send to
Hez·e·ki´ah, saying: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said,
‘The prayer that you have made to me concerning Sen·nach´er·ib the king
of As·syr´i·a I have heard.
21
This is the word that Jehovah has spoken against him:


“The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you, she has held you in derision.
Behind you the daughter of Jerusalem has wagged her head.


22
Whom have you taunted and spoken of abusively?
And against whom have you lifted up your voice
And do you raise your eyes on high?
It is against the Holy One of Israel!


23
By means of your messengers you have taunted Jehovah and you say,
‘With the multitude of my war chariots I myself—
I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.


24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.

(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)

25
Have you not heard? From remote times it is what I will do.
From bygone days I have even formed it.
Now I will bring it in.
And you will serve to make fortified cities desolate as piles of ruins.


26
And their inhabitants will be feeble-handed;
They will simply be terrified and will be ashamed.
They must become as vegetation of the field and green tender grass,
Grass of the roofs, when there is a scorching before the east wind.


27
And your sitting quiet and your going out and your coming in I well know,
And your exciting yourself against me,




28
Because your exciting yourself against me and your roaring have come up into my ears.
And I shall certainly put my hook in your nose and my bridle between your lips,
And I shall indeed lead you back by the way by which you have come.”


29
“‘And this will be the sign for you: There will
be an eating this year of the growth from spilled kernels, and in the
second year grain that shoots up of itself; but in the third year sow
seed, you people, and reap and plant vineyards and eat their fruitage.
30
And those who escape of the house of Judah, those who are left,
will certainly take root downward and produce fruitage upward.
31
For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and
those who escape from Mount Zion. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies
will do this.


32
“‘That is why this is what Jehovah has said
concerning the king of As·syr´i·a: “He will not come into this city nor
will he shoot an arrow there nor confront it with a shield nor cast up a
siege rampart against it.
33
By the way by which he proceeded to come, he will return, and
into this city he will not come, is the utterance of Jehovah.
34
And I shall certainly defend this city to save it for my own sake and for the sake of David my servant.”’”


35
And it came about on that night that the angel of
Jehovah proceeded to go out and strike down a hundred and eighty-five
thousand in the camp of the As·syr´i·ans. When people rose up early in
the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses.
36
Therefore Sen·nach´er·ib the king of As·syr´i·a pulled away and went and returned, and he took up dwelling in Nin´e·veh.
37
And it came about that as he was bowing down at
the house of Nis´roch his god, A·dram´me·lech and Shar·e´zer, his sons,
themselves struck him down with the sword, and they themselves escaped
to the land of Ar´a·rat. And E´sar-had´don his son began to reign in
place of him.
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Post  mugglez Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:59 am

you have been answered, many times but your head is so far up your neo nazi ass you can't hear. thumbs up

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Zion is Israel............. thumbs up

http://www.biblicalzionist.com/

Jerusalem:

Jerusalem Called "Zion"



2Sm 5:7
Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

1Kg 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to king Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

2Kg 19:21,31
21 This is the word that Yahweh has spoken concerning him: The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you; the daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
31 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion those who shall escape: the zeal of Yahweh shall perform this.

1Ch 11:5
The inhabitants of Jebus said to David, You shall not come in here. Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

2Ch 5:2
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

Ps 2:6
“Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Zion.”

Ps 9:11,14
11 Sing praises to Yahweh, who dwells in Zion,
and declare among the people what he has done.
14 that I may show forth all your praise.
In the gates of the daughter of Zion, I will rejoice in your salvation.

Ps 14:7
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When Yahweh restores the fortunes of his people,
then Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 20:2
send you help from the sanctuary,
grant you support from Zion,

Ps 48:2,11,12
2 Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth,
is Mount Zion, on the north sides,
the city of the great King.
11 Let Mount Zion be glad!
Let the daughters of Judah rejoice,
Because of your judgments.
12 Walk about Zion, and go around her.
Number its towers.

Ps 50:2
Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God shines forth.

Ps 51:18
Do well in your good pleasure to Zion.
Build the walls of Jerusalem.

Ps 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When God brings back his people from captivity,
then Jacob shall rejoice,
and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 69:35
For God will save Zion, and build the cities of Judah.
They shall settle there, and own it.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 76:2
His tabernacle is also in Salem;
His dwelling place in Zion.

Ps 78:68
But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which he loved.

Ps 84:7
They go from strength to strength.
Everyone of them appears before God in Zion.

Ps 87:2,5
2 Yahweh loves the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
5 Yes, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one was born in her;”
the Most High himself will establish her.

Ps 97:8
Zion heard and was glad.
The daughters of Judah rejoiced,
because of your judgments, Yahweh.

Ps 99:2
Yahweh is great in Zion.
He is high above all the peoples.

Ps 102:13,16,21
13 You will arise and have mercy on Zion;
for it is time to have pity on her.
Yes, the set time has come.
16 For Yahweh has built up Zion.
He has appeared in his glory.
21 that men may declare the name of Yahweh in Zion,
and his praise in Jerusalem;

Ps 110:2
Yahweh will send forth the rod of your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of your enemies.

Ps 125:1
Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion,
which can’t be moved, but remains forever.

Ps 126:1
When Yahweh brought back those who returned to Zion,
we were like those who dream.

Ps 128:5
May Yahweh bless you out of Zion,
and may you see the good of Jerusalem all the days of your life.

Ps 129:5
Let them be disappointed and turned backward,
all those who hate Zion.

Ps 132:13
For Yahweh has chosen Zion.
He has desired it for his habitation.

Ps 133:3
like the dew of Hermon,
that comes down on the hills of Zion:
for there Yahweh gives the blessing,
even life forevermore.

Ps 134:3
May Yahweh bless you from Zion;
even he who made heaven and earth.

Ps 135:21
Blessed be Yahweh from Zion,
Who dwells at Jerusalem.
Praise Yah!

Ps 137:1,3
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down.
Yes, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
3 For there, those who led us captive asked us for songs.
Those who tormented us demanded songs of joy:
“Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”

Ps 146:10
Yahweh will reign forever;
your God, O Zion, to all generations.
Praise Yah!

Ps 147:12
Praise Yahweh, Jerusalem!
Praise your God, Zion!

Ps 149:2
Let Israel rejoice in him who made them.
Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

SS 3:11
Go forth, you daughters of Zion, and see king Solomon,
with the crown with which his mother has crowned him,
in the day of his weddings,
in the day of the gladness of his heart.

Is 1:8,27
8 The daughter of Zion is left like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a besieged city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with justice,
and her converts with righteousness.

Is 2:3
Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

Is 3:16,17
16 Moreover Yahweh said, “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty,
and walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes,
walking to trip as they go,
jingling ornaments on their feet;
17 therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion,
and Yahweh will make their scalps bald.”

Is 4:3-5
3 It will happen, that he who is left in Zion, and he who remains in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even everyone who is written among the living in Jerusalem;
4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from its midst, by the spirit of justice, and by the spirit of burning.
5 Yahweh will create over the whole habitation of Mount Zion, and over her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for over all the glory will be a canopy.

Is 8:18
Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Armies, who dwells in Mount Zion.

Is 10:12,24,32
12 Therefore it will happen that, when the Lord has performed his whole work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the willful proud heart of the king of Assyria, and the insolence of his haughty looks.
24 Therefore the Lord, Yahweh of Armies, says “My people who dwell in Zion, don’t be afraid of the Assyrian, though he strike you with the rod, and lift up his staff against you, as Egypt did.
32 This very day he will halt at Nob. He shakes his hand at the mountain of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

Is 12:6
Cry aloud and shout, you inhabitant of Zion; for the Holy One of Israel is great in the midst of you!”

Is 14:32
What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That Yahweh has founded Zion, and in her the afflicted of his people will take refuge.

Is 16:1
Send the lambs for the ruler of the land from Selah to the wilderness, to the mountain of the daughter of Zion.

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 24:23
Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed; for Yahweh of Armies will reign on Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem; and before his elders will be glory.

Is 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh, “Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. He who believes shall not act hastily.

Is 29:8
It will be like when a hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats; but he awakes, and his hunger isn’t satisfied; or like when a thirsty man dreams, and behold, he drinks; but he awakes, and behold, he is faint, and he is still thirsty. The multitude of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion will be like that.

Is 30:19
For the people will dwell in Zion at Jerusalem. You will weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the voice of your cry. When he hears you, he will answer you.

Is 31:4,9
4 For thus says Yahweh to me,
“As the lion and the young lion growling over his prey,
if a multitude of shepherds is called together against him,
will not be dismayed at their voice,
nor abase himself for the noise of them,
so Yahweh of Armies will come down to fight on Mount Zion and on its heights.
9 His rock will pass away by reason of terror,
and his princes will be afraid of the banner,”
says Yahweh, whose fire is in Zion,
and his furnace in Jerusalem.

Is 33:5,14,20
5 Yahweh is exalted, for he dwells on high.
He has filled Zion with justice and righteousness.
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid.
Trembling has seized the godless ones.
Who among us can live with the devouring fire?
Who among us can live with everlasting burning?
20 Look at Zion, the city of our appointed festivals.
Your eyes will see Jerusalem, a quiet habitation,
a tent that won’t be removed.
Its stakes will never be plucked up,
nor will any of its cords be broken.

Is 34:8
For Yahweh has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Is 35:10
The Yahweh’s ransomed ones will return,
and come with singing to Zion;
and everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
and sorrow and sighing will flee away.”

Is 37:22,32
22 this is the word which Yahweh has spoken concerning him. The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you. The daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
32 For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and survivors will escape from Mount Zion. The zeal of Yahweh of Armies will perform this.’

Is 40:9
You who tell good news to Zion, go up on a high mountain.
You who tell good news to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with strength.
Lift it up. Don’t be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah, “Behold, your God!”

Is 41:27
I am the first to say to Zion, ‘Behold, look at them;’
and I will give one who brings good news to Jerusalem.

Is 46:13
I bring near my righteousness, it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not wait; and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Is 49:14
But Zion said, Yahweh has forsaken me, and the Lord has forgotten me.

Is 51:3,11,16
3 For Yahweh has comforted Zion; he has comforted all her waste places, and has made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Yahweh; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
11 The ransomed of Yahweh shall return, and come with singing to Zion; and everlasting joy shall be on their heads: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
16 I have put my words in your mouth, and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and tell Zion, You are my people.

Is 52:1,2,7,8
1 Awake, awake, put on your strength, Zion; put on your beautiful garments, Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake yourself from the dust; arise, sit on your throne, Jerusalem: loose yourself from the bonds of your neck, captive daughter of Zion.
7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of good, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, Your God reigns!
8 The voice of your watchmen! they lift up the voice, together do they sing; for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahweh returns to Zion.

Is 59:20
A Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from disobedience in Jacob, says Yahweh.

Is 60:14
The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 61:3
to appoint to those who mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Yahweh, that he may be glorified.

Is 62:1,11
1 For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until her righteousness go forth as brightness, and her salvation as a lamp that burns.
11 Behold, Yahweh has proclaimed to the end of the earth, Say you to the daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation comes; behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him.

Is 64:10
Your holy cities are become a wilderness, Zion is become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Is 66:8
Who has heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Jr 3:14
Return, backsliding children, says Yahweh; for I am a husband to you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Jr 4:6,31
6 Set up a standard toward Zion: flee for safety, don’t stay; for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, the anguish as of her who brings forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, who gasps for breath, who spreads her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul faints before the murderers.

Jr 6:2,23
2 The comely and delicate one, the daughter of Zion, will I cut off.
23 They lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy; their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, everyone set in array, as a man to the battle, against you, daughter of Zion.

Jr 8:19
Behold, the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people from a land that is very far off: isn’t Yahweh in Zion? Isn’t her King in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their engraved images, and with foreign vanities?

Jr 9:19
For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we ruined! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because they have cast down our dwellings.

Jr 14:19
Have you utterly rejected Judah? has your soul loathed Zion? why have you struck us, and there is no healing for us? We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of healing, and behold, dismay!

Jr 26:18
Micah the Morashtite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah; and he spoke to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus says Yahweh of Armies: Zion shall be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.

Jr 30:17
For I will restore health to you, and I will heal you of your wounds, says Yahweh; because they have called you an outcast, saying, It is Zion, whom no man seeks after.

Jr 31:6,12
6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen on the hills of Ephraim shall cry, Arise you, and let us go up to Zion to Yahweh our God.
12 They shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow to the goodness of Yahweh, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

Jr 50:5,28
5 They shall inquire concerning Zion with their faces turned toward it, saying, Come you, and join yourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant that shall not be forgotten.
28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our God, the vengeance of his temple.

Jr 51:10,24,35
10 Yahweh has brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of Yahweh our God.
24 I will render to Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, says Yahweh.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be on Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and, My blood be on the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.

Lm 1:4,6,17
4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn assembly;
all her gates are desolate, her priests do sigh:
her virgins are afflicted, and she herself is in bitterness.
6 From the daughter of Zion all her majesty is departed:
her princes are become like harts that find no pasture,
they are gone without strength before the pursuer.
17 Zion spreads forth her hands; there is none to comfort her;
Yahweh has commanded concerning Jacob, that those who are around him should be his adversaries:
Jerusalem is among them as an unclean thing.

Lm 2:1,4,6,8,10,13,18
1 How has the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger!
He has cast down from heaven to the earth the beauty of Israel,
And hasn’t remembered his footstool in the day of his anger.
4 He has bent his bow like an enemy, he has stood with his right hand as an adversary,
Has killed all that were pleasant to the eye:
In the tent of the daughter of Zion he has poured out his wrath like fire.
6 He has violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden; he has destroyed his place of assembly:
Yahweh has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion,
Has despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
8 Yahweh has purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion;
He has stretched out the line, he has not withdrawn his hand from destroying;
He has made the rampart and wall to lament; they languish together.
10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit on the ground, they keep silence;
They have cast up dust on their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth:
The virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
13 What shall I testify to you? what shall I liken to you, daughter of Jerusalem?
What shall I compare to you, that I may comfort you, virgin daughter of Zion?
For your breach is great like the sea: who can heal you?
18 Their heart cried to the Lord:
wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night;
Give yourself no respite; don’t let the apple of your eye cease.

Lm 4:2,11,22
2 The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold,
How are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!
11 Yahweh has accomplished his wrath, he has poured out his fierce anger;
He has kindled a fire in Zion, which has devoured its foundations.
22 The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, daughter of Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity:
He will visit your iniquity, daughter of Edom; he will uncover your sins.

Lm 5:11,18
11 They ravished the women in Zion,
The virgins in the cities of Judah.
18 For the mountain of Zion, which is desolate:
The foxes walk on it.

Jl 2:1,15,23,32
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of Yahweh comes,
for it is close at hand:
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion!
Sanctify a fast.
Call a solemn assembly.
23 “Be glad then, you children of Zion,
and rejoice in Yahweh, your God;
for he gives you the former rain in just measure,
and he causes the rain to come down for you,
the former rain and the latter rain,
as before.
32 It will happen that whoever will call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved;
for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,
as Yahweh has said,
and among the remnant, those whom Yahweh calls.

Jl 3:16,17,21
16 Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and thunder from Jerusalem;
and the heavens and the earth will shake;
but Yahweh will be a refuge to his people,
and a stronghold to the children of Israel.
17 “So you will know that I am Yahweh, your God,
dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem will be holy,
and no strangers will pass through her any more.
21 I will cleanse their blood,
that I have not cleansed:
for Yahweh dwells in Zion.”

Am 1:2
He said:
“Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and utter his voice from Jerusalem;
and the pastures of the shepherds will mourn,
and the top of Carmel will wither.”

Am 6:1
Woe to those who are at ease in Zion,
and to those who are secure on the mountain of Samaria,
the notable men of the chief of the nations,
to whom the house of Israel come!

Ob 1:17,21
17 But in Mount Zion, there will be those who escape, and it will be holy. The house of Jacob will possess their possessions.
21 Saviors will go up on Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau, and the kingdom will be Yahweh’s.

Mc 1:13
Harness the chariot to the swift steed, inhabitant of Lachish.
She was the beginning of sin to the daughter of Zion;
For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

Mc 3:10,12
10 They build up Zion with blood,
and Jerusalem with iniquity.
12 Therefore Zion for your sake will be plowed like a field,
and Jerusalem will become heaps of rubble,
and the mountain of the temple like the high places of a forest.

Mc 4:2,7,8,10,11,13
2 Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion will go forth the law,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem;
7 and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”
8 You, tower of the flock, the hill of the daughter of Zion,
to you it will come,
yes, the former dominion will come,
the kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem.
10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, daughter of Zion,
like a woman in travail;
for now you will go forth out of the city,
and will dwell in the field,
and will come even to Babylon.
There you will be rescued.
There Yahweh will redeem you from the hand of your enemies.
11 Now many nations have assembled against you, that say,
“Let her be defiled,
and let our eye gloat over Zion.”
13 Arise and thresh, daughter of Zion;
for I will make your horn iron,
and I will make your hoofs brass;
and you will beat in pieces many peoples:
and I will devote their gain to Yahweh,
and their substance to the Lord of the whole earth.

Zp 3:14,16
14 Sing, daughter of Zion! Shout, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all your heart, daughter of Jerusalem.
16 In that day, it will be said to Jerusalem, “Don’t be afraid, Zion. Don’t let your hands be slack.”

Zc 1:14,17
14 So the angel who talked with me said to me, “Proclaim, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
17 “Proclaim further, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “My cities will again overflow with prosperity, and Yahweh will again comfort Zion, and will again choose Jerusalem.”’”

Zc 2:7,10
7 ‘Come, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.’
10 Sing and rejoice, daughter of Zion; for, behold, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of you,’ says Yahweh.

Zc 8:2,3
2 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath.”
3 Thus says Yahweh: “I have returned to Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be called ‘The City of Truth;’ and the mountain of Yahweh of Armies, ‘The Holy Mountain.’”

Zc 9:9,13
9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion!
Shout, daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king comes to you!
He is righteous, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding on a donkey,
even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
13 For indeed I bend Judah as a bow for me.
I have filled the bow with Ephraim;
and I will stir up your sons, Zion,
against your sons, Greece,
and will make you like the sword of a mighty man.
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The Table Of Nations: A Unique Document

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Before giving consideration to these findings, it may be worth pointing out that the value of a document may change with time, so that it does not become more or less valuable, but rather valuable in an entirely new way. There is a sense in which Genesis 10 retains its unique worth as the first document to proclaim the unity of Man, just as the Magna Carta was the first document to proclaim the equality of Man. To say, as Thomas did, that the document is valueless, betrays an extraordinary narrowness of vision, by assuming that the only value a document can have is its use as a source of information for the historian. Historical veracity is one kind of value, but there are other values.

It should not for one moment, however, be supposed that we are relinquishing the historicity of this chapter in order to establish its value on another footing. The fact is, as we shall try to show, that wherever its statements can be sufficiently tested, Genesis 10 has been found completely accurate - often where, at one time, it seemed most certainly to be in error. This process of steady vindication has served to establish for it a second kind of value, namely, that like every other part of Scripture which has similarly been challenged and vindicated by research, it now contributes its testimony to the dependability of these earlier portions of Genesis, upon the truth of which hangs so much else of our faith.

Moreover, it is very difficult to conceive of the record of Genesis, which carries the thread of history from Adam until well into those ages supplied with monumental documents, without some kind of Table to set forth what happened to Noah's family and how the rest of the world, apart from the Middle East, came to be peopled after the Flood. The Table thus becomes an essential part of Scripture in its earliest portions, not merely for the satisfying of our natural curiosity, but to establish the fact that all men are of one blood, the offspring of the first Adam, and redeemable by the blood of one Man, the Second Adam.

The Table thus serves three purposes. It supplies an essential chapter in the early record of Genesis, rounding out what happened as the world's population expanded. It joins the whole human race into a single family, without giving the least suggestion that any one particular branch had preeminence over another - a notable achievement. Finally, as a purely historical document, it provides insights into the relationships between peoples that are only now becoming obtainable by other means, thereby adding its testimony to the dependability of the Genesis record..

Of the first of these achievements, Dillmann had this to say: (Cool

Egyptians and Phoenicians, Assyrians and Babylonians, even Indians and Persians, had a certain measure of geographical and ethnological knowledge, before more strictly scientific investigation had been begun among the classical peoples. From several of these, such as the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians, surveys of enumerations of the peoples known to them and attempts at maps have come down to us in the written memorials they have left behind. But not much attention was paid, as a rule, to foreigners unless national and trade interests were at stake. Often enough they were despised as mere barbarians, and in no case were they included with the more cultured nations in a higher unity.

It is otherwise in our text. Here many with whom the Israelites had no sort of actual relationship are taken into consideration.

We are apt to be so familiar with the idea of the brotherhood of man, that we assume it to be a concept accepted by all races at all times throughout history. Occasionally, we observe in our own selves a certain hesitancy in according other nations who do not share our cultural values the full measure of humanness which we accord to members of our own society. Such feelings, however, are apt to be concealed as much as possible, since the proper thing nowadays is to support the heroic assumption that "all men are equal." But there are times when we can give vent to our true feelings in the matter, as for example, when we are at war. If the writer of the tenth chapter of Genesis was a Hebrew, it is likely that, for him, the Canaanites were a particularly despised and degraded subsection of the human race. We have an analogy in the status accorded to the Jewish people by the Nazis. To many Germans at that time, the Jews were not really human beings at all. It is all the more remarkable, therefore, that in this Table of Nations the Canaanites are given equal standing in this Pedigree of Man with the descendants of Eber, among whom the Jewish people are numbered.

In his commentary, Kalisch (9) points out that even the curse of Canaan seems to have been forgotten, and not the slightest hint of it appears in the record to remind the reader. On the contrary, no other tribe is enumerated with such complete detail as that of Canaan (verses 15-19). As this learned writer says, "Nothing disturbs the harmony of this grand genealogy."

In the face of this, it is really rather extraordinary that Driver should consider the document as a piece of Jewish propaganda.

One further point is worth mentioning. When a civilization reaches a very high level of development, there may come a clearer recognition that all men are blood brothers. However, in a very small, closely-knit community struggling to establish itself, there may tend to be a very different attitude. Among most primitive people, the habit is to call themselves (in their own language, of course)" true men," referring to all others by some term which clearly denies them the right to manhood at all. Thus the Naskapi call themselves Neneot, which means real people. The Chukchee say that their name means "real men." The Hottentots refer to themselves as Khoi-Hoi which means men of men. The Yahgan of Tierra del Fuego (of all places) say that their name means men par excellence. The Andamanese, a people who appear to lack even the rudiments of law, refer to themselves as Ong, meaning men. All these people reserve these terms only for themselves. It is a sign of a low cultural state when this attitude is taken, but then, when a people hold the opposite attitude, it is likely a sign of a high cultural state. Thus, when any people achieve a stage of intellectual development at which they clearly conceive that all people are related in a way which assures them equality as human beings, they are then highly cultured, even though the mechanics of their civilization may appear at a low stage of development. From this we ought logically to gather that the writer of Genesis was a highly cultured individual. Indeed, it seems to me that only with a high conception of God would such a conception of man be possible, and therefore Genesis 10 would seem to bear testimony to a very high order of religious faith. In the final analysis, one might ask whether it is possible at all to sustain a true conception of the equality of man without a true conception of the nature of God. The former stems directly from the latter. The only ground for attaching to all men an equal level of worth is the tremendous fact that all souls have equal value to God. Assuredly, they do not have equal value to society.

Unless the ultimate standard of reference is the value which God attaches to persons, it is quite unrealistic to talk about all men being equal. Consider the drunken sot, wallowing in the gutter, poisoning the air with his foul language, utterly confusing his children, destroying his family life, disgusting his friends, disturbing his whole society - how can such a man possibly be of equal value with, for example, a pillar of the community who is full of neighbourly goodness? Clearly, there is no equality here if the basis of evaluation is man with man, or man with his society.

Any society which evaluates it members by their worth to itself is not attaching value to the individual person at all, but only to his functions. When these functions no longer serve a useful purpose, the man ceases to have any value. This was Nietzsche's philosophy - and Hitler's. It is the logical philosophy of anyone who views man apart from God. It is also the philosophy of education today, emphasizing skill and technology, encouraging men to do rather than be well. Against this tendency of natural man to "de-valuate" himself while supposing he is exalting himself, the Bible could not do anything else but set forth in clear terms these two complementary facts: that God is concerned equally with all men and that all men belong to one family, uniquely related through Adam to God Himself. The argument, so stated, is an argument also for the comprehensiveness of the Table of Genesis 10. Unless it is comprehensive, unless ultimately all mankind is in view here and not just those nations which Israel happened to have cognizance of, it is a chapter out of keeping with its context. Unless the whole human race is intended, the chapter's purpose is in doubt and the message of the Bible is incomplete. We are then left only with Acts 17:26 which, at this point, while assuring our hearts, does not enlighten our minds as to the facts that it gives.

There is a negative side also to the matter of the authenticity of this historical document. Had this Table been designed for propaganda purposes (to establish Israel's position as of equal dignity though not sharing some of the glories of the surrounding peoples) or had it been merely the work of some early historian creating his own data with a comparatively free hand, then almost certainly some device would have been adopted for deliberately setting forth not only the high status of his own ancestors, but the very low status of that of his enemies. With respect to the first tendency, one has only to read modern history books to discern how very easily individuals of little real significance can be presented to us in such a way as to make us take enormous pride in our heritage. There is, in fact, very little written history which is not in part propaganda, although the author himself is often unaware of it. The number of "firsts" claimed by some national historians for their countrymen is quite amazing, and it is usually clear what the nationality of the author himself is. In complete contrast, it would be difficult to prove with certainty of what nationality the author of Genesis 10 was. We assume he was a Hebrew, but if the amount of attention given to any particular line that is traced were used as a clue to his identity, he might have been a Japhethite, a Canaanite, or even an Arab. This is remarkable and shows enormous restraint on the author's part, the kind of restraint which suggests the hand of God upon him.

With respect to the second tendency, the belittling of one's enemies, this chapter most assuredly would have been a wonderful one in which to put the hated Amalekites in their proper place. But the Amalekites are not even mentioned. Of course, it might be argued that the Amalekites did not even exist at the time he wrote, a supposition which I consider highly probable. If this is the case, this is a very early document, not a later one as Driver would have had us believe. In any case, the author could have treated the Canaanites similarly.

One further aspect of the tone of the Table is the modesty of its chronological claims. Whereas Baylonians and Egyptians in the "parallels" which they have preserved for us extend their genealogies to absolutely incredible lengths - in some instances occupying hundreds of thousands of years - there are no such claims made or implied in Genesis 10. The feeling which one has in reading this chapter is that the expansion of population was quite rapid. Certainly, it is all most reasonable. This feature of the Table is ably summed up by Taylor Lewis who remarked: (10)

How came this Hebrew chronology to present such an example of modesty as compared with the extravagant claims to antiquity made by all other nations? The Jews, doubtless, had, as men, similar national pride, leading them to magnify their age upon the earth, and run it up to thousands and myriads of years. How is it, that the people whose actual records go back the farthest have the briefest reckoning of all?

The only answer to this is, that while others were left to their unrestrained fancies, this strange nation of Israel was under a providential guide in the matter. A divine check held them back from this folly. A holy reserve, coming from a constant sense of the divine pupillage, made them feel that "we are but of yesterday," while the inspiration that controlled their historians directly taught them that man had but a short time upon the earth.

They had the same motive as others to swell out their national years; that they have not done so, is one of the strongest evidences of the divine authority of their Scriptures.

As a matter of fact, those "parallels" that do exist elsewhere in the literature of antiquity not only completely lack the sobriety of Genesis 10, but owe their existence rather more to the desire to record notable conquests than to any philanthropic philosophy. As Leupold has aptly said: (11)

No nation of antiquity has anything to offer that presents an actual parallel to this Table of Nations. Babylonian and Egyptian lists that seem to parallel this are merely a record of nations conquered in war. Consequently, the spirit that prompted the making of such lists is the very opposite of the spirit that the Biblical list breathes.

Such records cannot, in fact, properly be classed as "parallels" at all. As Marcus Dods observed, (12) "This ethnographic Table is not only the most ancient and reliable description of the various nations and peoples, but it has no parallel in its attempt to exhibit all the races of the earth as related to one another."

The Structure and Purpose of the Table

The structure of things is normally related to the purpose they are intended to serve. This applies in engineering design, and it applies to physiology. It also applies in literature, whether as novel, poetry, legal document, or history. It applies also to Genesis 10. This document has more than one purpose but is so constructed that all its purposes are served equally well because of the simplicity of its conception.

The method of course, is to present a series of names, whether of individuals, whole tribes, or even places, as though they were "persons" related by birth. This is done in a simple straightforward manner, several lines being traced for several generations, here and there a comment supplying additional information. As a consequence of the particular form in which our sense of "precision" has developed in Western Culture, we find it difficult to accept the idea that if a man founded a city or a tribe, such an aggregate of people could still be summed up in the person of the founder, so that they could with equal propriety be referred to as his offspring. Thus in verse 15, Sidon is spoken of as the firstborn of Canaan: whereas by verse 19, Sidon is now clearly the city of that name. Similarly, Canaan is mentioned in verse 6 as a son of Ham and subsequently in verse 16 as father of several tribes who indeed, in verse 18, are referred to as his families. In the following verses, the name refers to the territory he occupied, which is geographically defined. We think of this as a rather loose employment of the term son, but it is simplicity itself when it comes to establishing origins. As Dillmann put it: (13)

In the representation given of this fundamental idea of the relationship of all peoples and men, each particular people is conceived of as a unity summed up in and permeated by the influence of its ancestor.

Although Dillmann does not elaborate on the implication of his observation regarding the persistence of the character of an individual in his descendants so that the observation appears almost as a chance remark, it will be well in discussing the purpose of the genealogy (in its bearing on its structure) to pursue this implication a little further, before returning to a more detailed examination of the structure per se.

The point of interest here is that there is a sense in which the character of an ancestor may for a short while, and occasionally for a very long time, permeate the characters of his descendants. Sir Francis Galton, (14) and others, first applied statistical analysis for sociological data in an attempt to demonstrate that there is such a thing as hereditary genius. It is not clear today whether such traits are genetically linked or the result of circumstances: for example, a famous lawyer may bias his children to follow in his footsteps and give them a headstart by his accumulated means and technical aids. The same may happen in the practice of medicine. Similarly, circumstances may sometimes result in a long line of great actors. Possibly in the realm of artistic ability we have a larger measure of genetic influence.

The idea that a "father" determines to a significant extent the character of his descendants for several generations underlies a certain class of statements that appear both in the Old and New Testaments. Jesus spoke of his bitterest critics as "Children of Satan," or "Sons of Belial," denying emphatically their claim to be "Children of Abraham." The very term, "the Children of Israel," came to mean something more than the mere descendants of Jacob. The Lord spoke of Nathaniel as "an Israelite indeed," having reference to his character, not to his lineage. It is important, in this context, to guard against the assumption that the "children" of an ancestor will only perpetuate the undesirable elements of his character. I believe history shows that there is such a thing as "national character," (15) which appears distinctly at first in a single individual and reappears in his children and grandchildren, with sufficient force to result in the formation of a widespread behaviour pattern that thereafter tends to reinforce and perpetuate itself as the family grows from a tribe into a nation. Where differences in national character do seem to exist, no implication is intended that there is any intrinsic superiority of one kind or another. We are arguing for the existence of differences, not superiorities. In the sum, we are all much alike. This is of fundamental importance.

The possibility that this idea is not foreign to Scripture was noted by Dr. R. F. Grau, who, over 80 years ago, commented: (16)

The object of the document which we are considering is not so much to call attention by these names to three individuals (Shem, Ham, Japheth) and to distinguish them from one another, as to point out the characteristics of the three races and their respective natural tendencies.

It is customary now to divide the world's present population into three racial stocks, Caucasians (essentially, the White Man), Negroids, and Mongoloids. It is exceedingly difficult to define successfully the distinguishing characteristics of any one of these three, although it might seem quite otherwise. Negroids are presumably black but Australian aborigines are not Negroid, though quite as black. The straight, black hair, the brown "slant" eyes, the epicanthic fold, and other features commonly accepted as characteristically Mongoloid, can be observed frequently among people who are classed as Caucasians. To repeat, although everyone thinks it is a simple matter to distinguish the three groups - and in most cases they can - it is virtually impossible to write down a foolproof description which will clearly mark out what tribe or nation belongs within which group. There is, however, one way in which it could be done - especially if we limit our view to a much earlier period in history when racial mixture had not proceeded very far - and this is to trace representatives of each tribe to their known ancestors and set forth, in some kind of genealogical tree, the relationships of these ancestors. Viewed in this light, the method of Genesis 10 is probably the only valid way to go about it.

In this Table, we again meet three groups of people, the descendants of Shem, Ham, and Japheth. But these three groups do not correspond with the current classification of races, for in this Table it is apparent that Negroid and Mongoloid are classed as one family, and the trilogy is reconstituted by setting the Semitic peoples in a distinct class by themselves. So then, we have the Japhethites who can be conveniently equated, for our purposes, with the Caucasians, Indo-Europeans, or White Man; the Hamites who are held to encompass the Negroid and Mongoloid branches, i.e., the so-called coloured races; and the Shemites who comprise the Hebrew people (both ancient and modern), the Arabs, and a few once-powerful nations, such as the Assyrians and Babylonians. This is a very sketchy outline, but it will serve for the moment until the details of the Table can be examined more specifically.

The Thesis: The Purpose Elaborated

Now, it is my firm belief that God has endowed these three groups - which we shall henceforth refer to normally as Japhethites, Hamites, and Shemites - with certain capacities and aptitudes which, when properly exercised, have made a unique contribution in the total historical development of mankind and which, when allowed to find full cooperative expression during a single epoch, have invariably led to the emergence of a high civilization.

This subject has been explored at some length by the author and was the basis of an accepted Ph.D. thesis. (17) It is presented in simple outline in Doorway Paper No.28 (and in Vol. I Three Branches), "Shem, Ham, and Japheth in Subsequent World History," and one critical aspect of it is examined in some detail in Doorway Paper No. 43, "The Technology of Hamitic People." (Vol. III, The Second Branch).

In a nutshell my thesis is this: that mankind, considered both as individuals and as the species, Homo sapiens, has a constitution which seeks satisfaction in three directions: physically, intellectually, and spiritually. There are people who live almost entirely for the physical; we often speak of them as "living to eat." There are people who live almost entirely in the intellectual realm, who gladly surrender a meal to buy a book. Then there are people to whom things of the spirit are completely paramount. Such people often go into permanent "retreat" and, for a large part of Christian history, they formed a separate class. Most of us probably live in these three realms with approximately equal emphasis, depending upon circumstances at the time. (18)

A survey of history with this thought in mind, applied to nations or races rather than to individuals, reveals that Japhethites have originated the great philosophical systems; the Shemitic peoples, the great religious systems whether true or false; and, surprising as it may seem to one not familiar with the evidence, the Hamitic people have supplied the world with the basis of almost every technological advance. This is not the time or place to attempt a demonstration of this thesis, since it has been undertaken in the two papers mentioned above. The extent of the evidence is remarkable indeed, although all the more so in that only in recent years has the debt of the white man to the colored man been recognized to any extent. New discoveries are constantly being made as a result of a continuing research into the origin of inventions, and these bear out the above observation in quite unexpected ways.

When the philosophical bent (which originated with the Greeks and the Aryans and successively elaborated by Western Man) was finally wedded to the technical genius of Hamitic peoples in Africa, Asia, and the New World, there arose the modern phenomenon of Science, enormously enlarging the fruits of this marriage. But the tendency, when the union of these two is most fruitful, has always been for a kind of dehumanized civilization to appear. What is necessary if this result is to be avoided, is the spiritual component, this contrbution being supplied initially by the Shemites, and now by the Christian Church. Without the Hamitic contribution, the contribution of Japheth led nowhere - as in Greece. Without the contribution of Japheth, the contribution of Ham stagnated as soon as the immediate practical problems of survival had been sufficiently solved. This kind of stagnation can be illustrated by the history of some of the great nations of antiquity, the Egyptians, for example. These interactions are examined elsewhere, but the important point to underscore at this juncture is that the various contributions of the various nations and peoples do not appear as contributions made by any one "family" unless one has the clue of these family relationships, which Genesis 10 supplies.

Given this clue, and allowing that the Table is a true historical record, these three components for a high civilization - the technological, intellectual, and spiritual - suddenly appear in a new light when it is realized which particular group of people made the most fundamental contribution in each area. The dwelling of Japheth in the tents of Shem, that is, the occupation by Japheth of a position originally possessed by Shem, the taking away of a kingdom from the latter to give it to the former - all these biblical phrases assume a new significance. In short, Genesis 10, by dividing the whole race into three families (though in a way which does not concord with modern concepts of racial groupings) is not thereby discredited but shown to be based upon a much clearer insight into the framework of history. To my mind, there is no question that when we see history as God sees it in its totality and at the end of time, we shall discover that this Table was a fundamental clue to its meaning. And, we would repeat, it serves this purpose because it has a structure which does not agree with modern attempts to redefine the interrelationships of the world's peoples.

Structure of the Table

Now a few thoughts may be in order with respect to the more mechanical aspects of its structure. First of all, it may be noted that the division of mankind into three basic families was not derived from traditions maintained by nations living around Israel or within their ken, because these nations did not have any such traditions. The Egyptians distinguished themselves from other people on the basis of colour, classing the Asiatics as yellow, the Libyans as white, and the Negroes as black. (19) But, in this Table of Nations, the so-called coloured peoples are not distinguished from one another (for instance, the blacks from the yellows) but are classes, if my understanding of the text is correct, within a single family group. And although it is true that the name Ham, meaning dark, may have reference to skin colour - as the word Japheth may have reference to fair-skinned people - the principle does not hold entirely, for some, at least, of Ham's descendants were fair. Indeed, according to Dillmann, there were, in ancient times, fair-skinned as well as the more familiar black-skinned Ethiopians. (20) There is no indication that the Hittites were black-skinned, and the same is probably true of the descendants of Sidon, etc. On the other hand, the Canaanites and the Sumerians (both descendants of Ham) refer to themselves as "blackheaded" people (21) - a designation which seems more likely to have reference to skin colour rather than colour of hair. Since almost all people in this area have black hair anyway, a hair-colour distinction would be meaningless.

I am aware, however, that it is customary in reconstructions based upon skeletal remains to picture the Sumerians as anything but Negroid. But this is not fatal to our theory for, as we have already noted with respect to the Australian Aborigines, not all black-skinned people are Negroids, and, were we dependent only upon skeletal remains of these Aborigines with no living representatives to guide us, we should have no way of knowing that they were black-skinned at all. The same may apply to the Sumerians and Canaanites. There is little doubt that the people of Sumer and the Indus Valley culture were akin. (22) The descriptions of the Indus Valley people in early Aryan literature indicate that they were Negroid in type. (23) The famous little "Dancing Girl" from the Indus Valley is certainly Negroid, and it is equally evident that genes for black skin still form a large component in the gene pool of the present Indian population. In his Races of Europe, (24) Coon has a section with descriptive materials devoted entirely to many racial types which have contributed to the present population of Europe. In speaking of gypsies and dark-skinned Mediterraneans, he includes two photographs of one young man of clearly "negroid" appearance and comments as follows:

Of much greater antiquity outside of India is a dark-skinned [in the photo, almost black], black-eyed, and straight-haired Mediterranean type which appears with some frequency in southern Iran and along the coasts of the Persian Gulf. This young sailor from Kuwait will serve as an example. The origin and affiliations of this type have not as yet been fully explained.

Interestingly enough, a further illustration from southern Arabia shows a young man who, as Coon puts it, "except for his light unexposed skin colour....could pass for an Australian aborigine." The use of the word unexposed inevitably made me think of Ham's reaction to his exposed father. For, if Ham was dark all over, he may have expected his father to be dark also, and his surprise at discovering otherwise might have so disturbed him as to cause him to be forgetful of his filial duty. At any rate, it is clear that in this area of the world, once occupied by the Sumerians, there still remain "unaccountable" evidences of a very dark-skinned component in the population. All these lines of evidence lend support to the contention that the Sumerians may have themselves been a black-skinned people.

The three families are not predicated on the basis of language, either. Again it is perfectly true that the children of Japheth, in so far as they have given rise to the Indo-Europeans, would seem to be a single linguistic family. The same may be said of the Shemites. But when we come to the descendants of Ham we run into difficulties for it appears that in historic times the Canaanites, Philistines, and many Cushites spoke Semitic languages, while the Hittites (also Hamites, from Heth) may have spoken an Indo-European language. The trouble with linguistic evidence, in this instance, is that it really appears too late in history to be decisive.

It has been suggested that the arrangement of the Table was dictated upon geographical grounds: for example, that the children of Japheth spread in one direction - more or less to the north and west, whereas the children of Ham tended towards the south and east, while the children of Shem stayed more nearly at the centre. This, however, would make the document something of a prophetic statement for such a dispersion did not occur until sometime later - unless, of course, one gives the document a late date, a point to be considered later. There is evidence that the writer knew only that some of Ham's descendants had entered Africa, that a large part of Shem's descendants had settled in Arabia, and that Japheth was still not very far to the north, though spreading along the shorelines of the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. In fact, the picture presented indicates a Cush quite close at hand, which was not the same as the Cush later to be found in Ethiopia. Thus, although the Table recognizes, as indeed it had to do, that some dispersion had already taken place in which the members of each family had migrated in more or less the same general direction, this knowledge was not the basis of the threefold division, but rather stemmed from it.

While the writer admits that his genealogy employs not merely the names of persons but also of places and families, even making use at times of language as a guide, it seems pretty clear that the structure of his Table is dependent ultimately upon a true understanding of the original relationships of the founding fathers of each line to their more notable descendants and to one another. To my mind, the very structure of the Table predicates this kind of knowledge of the facts. On no other basis can one account for the circumstance that, for centuries, certain statements have seemed clearly contrary to the evidence. Only as more light appears does the Table prove itself to be correct, where properly tested.

The use of a genealogical tree which does not slavishly demand that individuals only are to be listed, but allows the inclusion of cities they founded, tribes they grew into, and districts they occupied, provides a simple, straightforward, and concise method of setting forth the Origin of Nations.

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Column - Rinehart and the hypocrites
Column - Rinehart and the hypocrites

Andrew Bolt – Wednesday, February 08, 12 (06:54 am)
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AH, the fury of the hypocrites since mining magnate Gina Rinehart snapped up more shares in struggling Fairfax.

Hear them, the gibbering Fairfax and ABC journalists, and self-serving Greens.

Anguished voices in the Fairfax newspapers, and on the ABC, groan that
media diversity is in danger now that Australia’s richest person has
12.8 per cent of the company that publishes the Leftist Age and Sydney Morning Herald.

Communications Minister Steve Conroy even claims we need new laws on
media ownership, given what some clown in the Fairfax papers squeals is
Rinehart’s apparent plot to “change the nature of Australia’s media and
politics”.

Her alleged plot: to buy “key media companies (to) impose a Fox
News-style libertarian perspective on Australia where voices like Bolt
can be promoted to influence policy”.

How sinister! God knows what damage I’d do if Rinehart got me a column
in a well-read paper like - er, this one - to turn a million empty
Fairfax minds to thoughts of evil.

Reality check. Here’s what actually happened this week.

Fact: a super-rich boss with strong opinions from the political fringe
now controls a media asset that’s now pumping out the owner’s world
view.

Only note: I’m not talking about Rinehart but Graeme Wood.

Wood is the global warming alarmist who got hugely rich with his
Wotif.com hotel booking site and gave the Greens an astonishing $1.6
million for its campaigns.

He’s now put up at least another $15 million to launch an online newspaper, The Global Mail -
but this time we don’t hear a bat-squeak of protest from journalists
about attempts to buy “political influence” or “change the nature of
Australia’s media”.

The comical opposite. Instead of damning Wood, ABC and Fairfax journalists are lining up to join him.

Yes, his journalists are almost exclusively former Fairfax and ABC employees, 12 in all, including former ABC Media Watch host Monica Attard, ABC TV reporter Ellen Fanning and Fairfax political reporter Mike Seccombe.

Sure, we’re told Wood has no editorial control over his reporters, but he won’t need it, will he?

Not now that he’s got a group-think collective that will, unbidden, take all the standard Left positions.

Check what the Global Mail published this week. There’s three -
three! - pieces lauding the radical Occupy movement, one complaining
that Muslim Australians are “misunderstood” and another defending higher
taxes.

A “warm and relaxed” Julia Gillard gets a sympathetic profile, as does Malcolm Turnbull, the Labor choice for Liberal leader.

And, what should especially thrill Wood, three more articles attack the
mining industry, branding it a “juggernaut” that’s “almost certainly”
causing “permanent damage to the environment” and ruining local
communities.

Not just our own. “The Filthy Rich and The Racists in Mongolia’s Mining Boom”, howls one headline.

All this in a publication in which Gillard is urged to attack Rinehart’s
“ratcheting up of her influence over Australia’s media”.

You’ve got to laugh at journalists complaining that Rinehart might do to
Fairfax what their own boss has already done with them - but in the
green cause and with their full agreement.
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GetUp questioning Rinehart's motivations
From: AAP
February 09, 2012 8:17AM

ONLINE campaigner GetUp is running a newspaper campaign highlighting concerns that mining magnate Gina Rinehart might influence mining-related media coverage after her recent acquisition of a large part of Fairfax.

The richest woman in Australia secured a 12.8 per cent share of Fairfax, the nation's second-largest newspaper company, last week.

GetUp has responded by running campaigns in The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald, which are owned by Fairfax. The advertisement appeared in today's edition of The Age.

The advertisement feature a mocked-up newspaper with "edits" overlaid to provide more supportive coverage to the mining industry.

"The mining industry in Australia already wields incredible power, made obvious by the success of its campaign to water down the (Mineral) Resources (Rent) Tax (MRRT)," GetUp national director Simon Sheikh said in a statement today.

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  • Gina can't buy Fairfax voice The Australian, 6 days ago

"Our members are concerned about what's motivating this buy-up of Australian media and what the mining industry might expect in return for its investment."

The Federal Opposition will try again today to force the Government to release all the treasury modelling used for the multi-billion mining tax.

Legislation for the tax still needs to pass the upper house so that it can take effect from the middle of the year.
Liberal MP Mathias Cormann told ABC radio he will move a motion that will put off debate until the Government releases all the modelling.

The MRRT was Prime Minister Julia Gillard's first priority in 2010 after she deposed Kevin Rudd.

Ms Gillard struck a deal with the nation's three biggest miners, BHP Billiton, Xstrata and Rio Tinto, to set the tax rate at 30 per cent and confine it to the extraordinary profits of iron ore and coal companies.

Under Mr Rudd's original Resources Super Profits Tax (RSPT), which drew the industry's wrath and sparked truck-bed protests by mining billionaires Gina Rinehart and Andrew Forrest, the rate was to be 40 per cent and the impost was to be payable by all mining groups.

The MRRT will be the subject of a Senate economics committee inquiry, which is due to report back by March 14.

Rudd and Gillard appeal to the ABC judge

Andrew Bolt – Thursday, February 09, 12 (07:06 am)
More fun than a bag of cats:
KEVIN RUDD is refusing to grant an interview to the ABC’s Four Corners
program as both sides of the leadership divide grow increasingly
paranoid about an upcoming episode about Mr Rudd and Labor.

Supporters of the Prime Minster, Julia Gillard, worry the episode, due
to be screened on Monday night, will serve as a launching pad for Mr
Rudd’s ambitions while the Rudd camp fears a hatchet job on the Foreign
Affairs Minister....

The Herald has been told some members of the class of 2007 - those who
were elected under Mr Rudd in 2007 but lost their seats in 2010 - have
been encouraged by the Rudd camp to be interviewed by the ABC and blame
the 2010 leadership change for losing their seats....The Herald has also
been told Gillard forces have sought to impress upon Four Corners
negative tales about Mr Rudd.


Whose side will Four Corners take?
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Never mind the lie: the ABC insists Abbott started the riot

Andrew Bolt – Thursday, February 09, 12 (07:03 am)

Reader Scott notifies the ABC of a shocking misrepresentation of
a mini race riot triggered by falsehoods, quite possibly spread by Julia Gillard’s own office:


I refer to the article Posted here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-30/opposition-accused-of-playing-protest-political-football/3801394

It states: “Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Opposition Leader Tony
Abbott had to flee a Canberra restaurant after it was surrounded by
angry demonstrators, incensed by earlier comments Mr Abbott had made
regarding the Aboriginal Tent Embassy.”

This is factually incorrect. They were not incensed by comments made by
Abbott, but by a false statement regarding what had been said.

I ask you to correct the article.


But check the shameless and astonishing defence the ABC’s Audience and
Consumer Affairs branch gives of the ABC report blaming Abbott:


It is not known what the various protesters believed Mr Abbott had said.
Some may have seen the original interview on News24, others may have
heard or seen other media reports which reported his comments (for
instance by AAP, 2UE and SkyNews), while many probably relied on verbal
accounts of his comments with varying degrees of accuracy from people at
the rally. Apart from admitting that he told Kim Sattler that Mr Abbot
was at the Lobby restaurant, Tony Hodges has not said what he said to Ms
Sattler. Mr Abbott certainly believes his comments were misrepresented
and exaggerated. It is possible that people were enraged by accurate
accounts of what Mr Abbott said. The ABC story did not attempt to
disentangle exactly who said what to whom because it would have been
highly speculative at that time.

What is true is that Mr Abbott’s comments sparked the
demonstration perhaps because they had been misrepresented or
exaggerated. In that sense it is accurate to say that they “were enraged
by remarks Mr Abbott had made”.
In context, ordinary readers would have understood that meant that they were enraged by what they believed Mr Abbott had said…

It is also not true to say that the ABC suggested that Mr Abbott caused the demonstration, that was never stated or implied.


Even the protesters themselves have said it was not Abbott’s totally
innocuous remarks, but the lies told about them that set them off:

One of the co-founders of the Aboriginal tent embassy
in Canberra has admitted that he had not heard comments made by
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott until after a fiery clash between
demonstrators and police that resulted in Prime Minister Julia Gillard
being dragged to safety yesterday.

Michael Anderson today said “we now have a copy of what he [Mr Abbott]
actually said” and agreed that the Opposition Leader’s comments had been
misinterpreted by the group who surrounded the Lobby restaurant several
hundred metres from Parliament House in Canberra.

“When I looked at the Tony Abbott thing, of course when he said
‘It’s time to move on’,
yeah people misinterpreted that and unfortunately
it provoked an incident,” Mr Anderson told radio station 3AW today.


Hmm. How can I make the ABC understand its moral and logical mistake?
Perhaps: this is like saying Desdemona provoked Othello into murdering
her.
Never mind Iago.

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With the result never in doubt,
more than 35,000 spectators
cheered on their hero
at Caulfield today.

Picture: Wayne Ludbey

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Black Caviar puts on an Orrsome show
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BLACK Caviar today moved to within one win of
the Australasian consecutive winning streak record with signature ease.


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Black Caviar romps to Orr-some win 18

By Daniel Franklin
Updated February 11, 2012 21:11:14

Video: Black Caviar records 18th victory
(7pm TV News NSW)

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Black Caviar on a par with Phar Lap

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Black Caviar brings run to 17

Map: Melbourne 3000

Australian racegoers could get a triple serving of Black Caviar in as many weeks
in light of her 18th consecutive victory on Saturday.


The gates were thrown open at Caulfield and more than
20,000 flocked to see the world's best sprinter claim the CF Orr
Stakes, her eighth Group One success.


Everything went to script atthe mare's first try at 1,400 metres;
Luke Nolen guided her round the track with a minimum of fuss before sprinting clear
to score by an effortless 3-1/4 lengths.


The ease of Black Caviar's win has trainer Peter Moody considering running her in
the Lightning Stakes (1,000m) next Saturday as a virtual training gallop for
the Futurity Stakes (1,400m) a week later.


"People might think it's a greed issue but we've never pushed her," Moody said.

"On the ease of that (win), I'm probably going to have to do more work with her next Saturday morning to have her ready for the Futurity than she did here this afternoon.


"If she comes through this great, there is a chance you will see her again in seven days."


Victory in the Lightning will see Black Caviar equal the Australasian record
of 19 wins held by Gloaming and Desert Gold; the same mark reached by
American champion Zenyatta in 2010.


Victory then in the Futurity would see the mare set a new modern-day record
while in Australia, an achievement coveted by Moody before she heads overseas.


Group One winners Southern Speed and Playing God filled the Orr placings but
will part ways with the great mare as they step up in distance on a path to
the Australian Cup (2,000m).


'Mind-boggling'

Audio:Black Caviar wins CF Orr Stakes
(ABC News)

Black Caviar's winning time of 1:25.14 was nothing flash, but the ease at which she
put her rivals to the sword between the 400m and 200m continues to astound.


Moody stood in the mounting yard glowing with pride at the manner in which
the people's horse added another dimension to her record.


"It's unbelievable, it's mind-boggling. What she does to good horses is beyond belief,"
he said.


"It's the public expectation that gets to me because
you'd hate to disappoint the 30,000 people that have turned up.


"A lady that left her flooded house in Grafton came down to see her;
northern Queensland, Western Australia, people from everywhere and
it's amazing."


In cleaning up her rivals, Black Caviar joined the great Ajax
who posted 18 straight wins in the 1930s.


"It's a great privilege to be part of such a wonderful story," Nolen said.

"I'm only a small part of it, but I'm a part of it all the same."


The champion mare's ultimate goal remains the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot
in June.


In the meantime the Black Caviar express could possibly head to Sydney, Adelaide or
as far afield as Dubai.


"The end is nearer than the beginning, but let's hope it goes for another season or two yet," Moody said.

Diamond dazzler


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Photo: Samaready races into favouritism for the Blue Diamond.
(Robert Prezioso: Getty Images)

Earlier, Samaready ($4.20) took a strangehold on Blue Diamond betting
with a dynamic performance in the fillies' Prelude (1,100m).


As much as $26 was on offer for Samaready earlier in the week,
but her 3-1/4-length victory on Saturday saw her installed a $2.80 favourite
for the $1 million classic in a fortnight.


Her winning time of 1:03.38 was far superior to the colts division won by
first-starter General Rippa ($17).


Despite being confident before the race, trainer Mick Price says
Samaready's victory exceeded his expectations.


"There's nothing like race day to sort out the blah blah in this game," he said.


"I think the margin, the time and the way she found that extra gear...
certainly points pretty strongly towards her running a nice 1,200 metres.


"I think there should be some improvement from today."


General Rippa gives David Hayes another strong Diamond contender,
joining Mamas Choice who he trained to win on debut last week.


"I like their racing pattern for the Blue Diamond; it's a high-pressure race and
you love horses that are strong in the last 300," he said.


Jimando is second favourite for the Diamond at $8.50,
with Rusambo, The Travelling Man and Mamas Choice all at $10.


Topics: horse-racing, sport, melbourne-3000, vic, australia
First posted February 11, 2012 16:22:14
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Black Caviar's unbeaten run
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April 18, 2009 and a star is born as Black Caviar makes her debut
in the Cromwell Handicap at Flemington.

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Peter Moody again sends out the favourite in her second start as the
filly, piloted by apprentice Jarrad Noske, cruises to the line in the
Blue Sapphire Stakes.

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After a short break, Black Caviar returns in the Arrow Training Services
Plate - and her owners are again a happy bunch as she salutes the judge.

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Moody was all smiles, and why wouldn't he have been
after the mare made her rivals look second rate in the Danehill Stakes?

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Not even the lights bothered the all-conquering speed machine
as she scorched the turf at Moonee Valley in the Australia Stakes.

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Then it was back to her home track at Caulfield for the Schillaci Stakes.
Different track, same result.

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From Caulfield, Moody took his best horse to Moonee Valley for
an exciting Shweppes Stakes on Cox Plate day.
Although that race turned into somewhat of a fizzer as the mare again blitzed the field.

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The giant mare then took on Hay List in her biggest test to that point -
her first Group 1 in what was a meeting with fellow glamour horse, Hay List.
But she showed she was in another class as she cruised to victory in a breathtaking display.

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Black Caviar made it nine from nine when jockey Luke Nolen eased her up on the line
to win the Lightning Stakes.
It was Nolen's first Group 1 aboard the fastest racehorse on the planet.

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Carrying a topweight of 58 kg in the Newmarket Handicap at Flemington,
she won with ease and set a race record.

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Ran away to a fourth successive Group 1 victory in the Williams Reid Stakes
at Moonee Valley.

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Had to overcome a bold run from Hay List -
who was a clear leader at the top of the straight -
to claim the T.J. Smith Stakes at Randwick,
but in the end the margin was three lengths to the champ.

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A crowd of more than 20,000 turned out at Doomben
to see another dominant performance over Hay List.

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Equalled Phar Lap's record of 14 straight wins with her second Schillaci Stakes
with a four and a quarter length victory.

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Another easy win against little opposition, claiming a six lengths victory
in front of a packed Moonee Valley.

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Won by almost three lengths on Stakes Day against another mediocre field.

Black Caviar relaxes after a hectic racing schedule. Picture: Colleen Petch

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Mightly mare Black Caviar toyed with her rivals at Caulfield
to notch up win 18 from as many starts.
Jockey Luke Nolen hardly moved a muscle on the undisputed champion
who finished three lengths in front of Caulfield Cup winner Southern Speed.

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HOW is it that Black Caviar
can put her rivals to the sword with such ruthless ease
time after time?

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Black Caviar does it easy in
18th straight win
in front of large Caulfield crowd

From:AAP
February 11, 2012 5:32PM
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SHE'S the champion of the world, one of the best Australia has ever seen and the horse that broke the gates down.


Black Caviar, the best sprinting thoroughbred on the planet, turned
back the clock at Caulfield today, dragging an old-fashioned bumper
crowd that was allowed in free of charge just to see her run.


And at the same time she showed a glimpse of what's to come
when she leaves Australia next month to take on the world.


As everyone expected her to, Black Caviar bounded to her 18th win from as many starts
in the Group One CF Orr Stakes.


Only the South Australian mare Southern Speed made anything like a race of it
with Black Caviar, and she had to produce the run of her life to fill second place,
3-1/4 lengths behind the great mare.


As well as taking her one race closer to the record number of wins for an unbeaten
horse in Australia, it took her prizemoney total to a tick under $5 million.


"That might have been her best run yet," said senior part-owner Neil Werrett.
"It was her easiest."

As well as the massive crowd Black Caviar "invited" to see her Caulfield,
her performance stopped a cricket match on the oval near the 1200m mark,
the players jumping the fence to watch her flash past.


The only surprise to come from the race was delivered by trainer Peter Moody,
who said he might run Black Caviar at Flemington next week and then come
back to Caulfield the week after.


"If she pulls up well, you might see her again in seven days,
and if she comes through that all right, she might be back here seven days later."


Black Caviar is then scheduled to race in Dubai next month
at the world's richest race meeting,
before tackling Europe's best at Royal Ascot in June.

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Black Caviar on a par with Phar Lap
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Post  true lilly Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:01 am

Australia makes global bid for mega-telescope
Posted Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:29am AEDT | Updated 9 hours 53 minutes ago

The Federal Government is appealing for global support in its bid
to host the world's biggest radio telescope.

Topics:

telescopes,
astronomy-space,
federal-government,
australia,
south-africa
Australia appeals for global support for telescope bid
Updated February 11, 2012 13:07:18
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Photo:Antennas were built in the Murchison as part of the Pathfinder project, the precursor to the SKA. (Jane Kennedy)
Related Story:Local telescopes help the bid for SKA
Related Story:Millions thrown at SKA bid but what are the benefits?
Related Story:High hopes for massive telescope project
[url=http://maps.google.com/?q=-26.000,134.500(Australia )&z=5]Map: Australia [/url]

The Federal Government is appealing for global support in its bid to host the world's biggest radio telescope.


Science Minister Chris Evans says he will be travelling to China and Italy to
try to convince the international community that the Square Kilometre Array (SKA)
should be housed in Australia.

A group of international scientists is expected to make a decision soon between the
joint Australia-New Zealand proposal or a rival bid from South Africa.

Senator Evans says it is a critical time, and Australia's economic and political stability
should make it the preferred location.

"If we're trying to get countries around the world to invest in this
enormous and expensive project, they're going to want certainty, they're
going to want security and they want to know you can get the job done,"
he said.

He says the telescope will capture an unprecedented volume of data and
which will be processed by a supercomputer 100 times quicker than today's fastest.

"There will be a whole range of flow-on effects in terms of our science,
be it in computing, data storage, as well as the huge astronomy focus of the project,"
he said.

The chosen site will be announced in about a month.
Topics:telescopes, astronomy-space, federal-government, australia, south-africa
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Moody to risk sport's biggest drawcard
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Matt Stewart


THE shackles are off.
Fighting words, passports and dramatic new plans
will make Black Caviar's next chapter the most enthralling yet.


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round of skulls on the gurl of the house, whether she's suicider or a liver, she can get her ass tattooed by the best & put on a pedestal in hell's kitchen not to mention her jaws of steel & the grills on her escalade being more poppular than the sign in hollywood, I'd take that chick in a second it she wanted to be my first lady I'd chose some actress or singer or some famous chick cuz I know they love a bit of dirt under the nails
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Post  true lilly Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:19 pm

As this following image was put together by the like of
"Ciggy" the mega-bs-artists who's well paid careers
are to shove this sort of bs down the world's throat

via the GLOBAL ANTIsocial Twittering Media,
it would be wrong to leave 'that name', "Ciggy" out of this,
"UP YOURS":

K-Federino wrote:
barnacle bill wrote:
el kabong wrote:
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Andrew Bolt
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 at 07:14am

IT’S a bright new year, so let’s see how the great global warming scare is panning out, shall we?

First, the planet hasn’t actually warmed for a decade—or even 15 years,
according to new temperature data from Britain’s Met Office.

Hmm. That’s not what global warming scientists predicted.


Or look out of your window.

The rain that Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery said in 2007 “isn’t
actually going to fill our dams and river systems” any more has just
flooded New South Wales and Queensland again.


The Bureau of Meteorology,which three years ago warned “we are just not
going to have that sort of good rain again”, now admits last year was
our third-wettest on record.

The snowfalls that the University of East Anglia in 2000 said would soon
become “a very rare and exciting event”
are falling as hard as ever.

The monster hurricanes we were told to expect by Nobel Prize winner Al Gore are coming no more often.

The massive coral bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef, that warmist
Prof Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
predicted would occur every second year from 2010,
hasn’t hit in years.

Wherever you look it’s the same wake-up-to-yourself story.

Sea levels have recently dipped, the oceans have lately cooled, Arctic
ice has not retreated since 2007, polar bear numbers are increasing,
global crop yields keep rising and now some solar scientists warn not of
warming, but cooling.

So how do the warming activists respond to increasing evidence
contradicting their theory that our carbon dioxide emissions are heating
the world dangerously?

Simple. They close their eyes.

Take Prof Naomi Oreskes, the author of Merchants of Doubt who famously tried to prove that not one scientific paper dissented from the global warming “consensus”.


Last week she complained people still “cling to the idea that it is
reasonable to maintain an open mind”, and insisted: “It isn’t.”


To have an academic demand a closed mind on global warming is a shock.
It shows she’s talking not about science but a faith.


Yet her view is depressingly echoed by much of the media, which for
years has whipped up the warming scare, refusing to report on scientists
who queried it, and demonising the open-minded as “deniers”.

They, too, believe a closed mind—and closed ears—is how to deal with inconvenient truths I’ve listed.


Example?

I once mentioned on the ABC TV’s Insiders that the warming had paused, only to be heckled by one panellist while the other, The Sydney Morning Herald’s David Marr, theatrically buried his head in a newspaper.

Not listening, la la la la la.

What has made the deliberate know-nothingness of such journalists so
damaging is that in no other country has the media spruiked the warming
creed so hysterically.

Warmist researchers from the Centre for Science and Technology Policy
Research at the University of Colorado in Boulder have counted how often
50 papers around the world mentioned “global warming” or “climate
change” and found that in every year from 2006 to 2011 our own beat the
rest.

But see how some of the most obsessed outlets—especially The Age and
ABC—resist reporting evidence that the late 20th century warming blamed
on man’s gases has halted, and few of the catastrophic consequences
predicted have happened.


Man’s gases do affect the climate is some small way, but not necessarily
for the worst and certainly not by as much as natural influences—some
of which may have us heading for cooling.

Henrik Svensmark, director of the Centre for Sun-Climate Research at
Denmark’s National Space Institute, investigates the effects of the sun
and cosmic rays on our climate, and last week said a recent cut in the
sun’s output could soon reverse any man-made warming: “World
temperatures may end up a lot cooler than now for 50 years or more.”

Who knows if he’s right? Best keep an open mind on this and on man-made warming.

Or, as Harvard University physicist Mike Stopa warned last week: “It is
possible that CO2 has effectively no influence on global climate.”

And he asked: “Suppose it turns out that CO2 has essentially nothing to do with the Earth’s climate.


“How will the history of this colossal mistake be written?”


The great jellyfish scare goes bung, too
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_great_jellyfish_scare_goes_bung_too/

“The ETS is bust, it’s dead”
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_ets_is_bust_its_dead/
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“How will the history of this colossal mistake be written?”
________________________________________

"will"? our 'Future History' IS WRITTEN,
including the warnings of what we will suffer
for denying and ignoring it.

www.blueletterbible.org
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true lilly wrote:As this following image was put together by the like of
"Ciggy" the mega-bs-artists who's well paid careers
are to shove this sort of bs down the world's throat

via the GLOBAL ANTIsocial Twittering Media,
it would be wrong to leave 'that name', "Ciggy" out of this,
"UP YOURS":

K-Federino wrote:
barnacle bill wrote:
el kabong wrote:
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Column -
Open your eyes. Where’s that warming?

223 Comments | Permalink
Andrew Bolt Blog SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!! - Page 24 Icon_arrow_small
Andrew Bolt
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 at 07:14am

IT’S a bright new year, so let’s see how the great global warming scare is panning out, shall we?

First, the planet hasn’t actually warmed for a decade—or even 15 years,
according to new temperature data from Britain’s Met Office.

Hmm. That’s not what global warming scientists predicted.


Or look out of your window.

The rain that Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery said in 2007 “isn’t
actually going to fill our dams and river systems” any more has just
flooded New South Wales and Queensland again.


The Bureau of Meteorology,which three years ago warned “we are just not
going to have that sort of good rain again”, now admits last year was
our third-wettest on record.

The snowfalls that the University of East Anglia in 2000 said would soon
become “a very rare and exciting event”
are falling as hard as ever.

The monster hurricanes we were told to expect by Nobel Prize winner Al Gore are coming no more often.

The massive coral bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef, that warmist
Prof Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
predicted would occur every second year from 2010,
hasn’t hit in years.

Wherever you look it’s the same wake-up-to-yourself story.

Sea levels have recently dipped, the oceans have lately cooled, Arctic
ice has not retreated since 2007, polar bear numbers are increasing,
global crop yields keep rising and now some solar scientists warn not of
warming, but cooling.

So how do the warming activists respond to increasing evidence
contradicting their theory that our carbon dioxide emissions are heating
the world dangerously?

Simple. They close their eyes.

Take Prof Naomi Oreskes, the author of Merchants of Doubt who famously tried to prove that not one scientific paper dissented from the global warming “consensus”.


Last week she complained people still “cling to the idea that it is
reasonable to maintain an open mind”, and insisted: “It isn’t.”


To have an academic demand a closed mind on global warming is a shock.
It shows she’s talking not about science but a faith.


Yet her view is depressingly echoed by much of the media, which for
years has whipped up the warming scare, refusing to report on scientists
who queried it, and demonising the open-minded as “deniers”.

They, too, believe a closed mind—and closed ears—is how to deal with inconvenient truths I’ve listed.


Example?

I once mentioned on the ABC TV’s Insiders that the warming had paused, only to be heckled by one panellist while the other, The Sydney Morning Herald’s David Marr, theatrically buried his head in a newspaper.

Not listening, la la la la la.

What has made the deliberate know-nothingness of such journalists so
damaging is that in no other country has the media spruiked the warming
creed so hysterically.

Warmist researchers from the Centre for Science and Technology Policy
Research at the University of Colorado in Boulder have counted how often
50 papers around the world mentioned “global warming” or “climate
change” and found that in every year from 2006 to 2011 our own beat the
rest.

But see how some of the most obsessed outlets—especially The Age and
ABC—resist reporting evidence that the late 20th century warming blamed
on man’s gases has halted, and few of the catastrophic consequences
predicted have happened.


Man’s gases do affect the climate is some small way, but not necessarily
for the worst and certainly not by as much as natural influences—some
of which may have us heading for cooling.

Henrik Svensmark, director of the Centre for Sun-Climate Research at
Denmark’s National Space Institute, investigates the effects of the sun
and cosmic rays on our climate, and last week said a recent cut in the
sun’s output could soon reverse any man-made warming: “World
temperatures may end up a lot cooler than now for 50 years or more.”

Who knows if he’s right? Best keep an open mind on this and on man-made warming.

Or, as Harvard University physicist Mike Stopa warned last week: “It is
possible that CO2 has effectively no influence on global climate.”

And he asked: “Suppose it turns out that CO2 has essentially nothing to do with the Earth’s climate.


“How will the history of this colossal mistake be written?”


The great jellyfish scare goes bung, too
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_great_jellyfish_scare_goes_bung_too/

“The ETS is bust, it’s dead”
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_ets_is_bust_its_dead/
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“How will the history of this colossal mistake be written?”
________________________________________

"will"? our 'Future History' IS WRITTEN,
including the warnings of what we will suffer
for denying and ignoring it.

www.blueletterbible.org
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silent
OBERON...and how 'they' FORCE The GREENIE Agenda
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true lilly wrote:Funny, I post this (below),
go to David Icke Official Forums,
and there's "tintin's Thread",
"The NEWS Behind The NEWS,
near the top of the 1st page of "Today's News",
with last post by "dixie d",
and I go to that last page, scroll down and
and it's ALL "tintin's" posts for the last two pages.

So I go back to the last page, still "tintin".
Go back to "Today's News", and "tintin's'
"The NEWS Behind The News" is NOT there,
or the next page, but way down on the 3rd.


"This Post should be cut and pasted on every blog ...EXCELLENT"

Read ALL 3 Pages of the comments:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/kiddie_porn_horror/P0/

Les replied to Rock spider
Thu 09 Feb 12 (08:17am)
Abraham (aka Rock Spider) said:
“However what moral absolute, in a society without absolutes,
prohibits rationalising relationships with children?”


ANSWER: A shotgun.



“There are no moral absolutes so I’m doing what’s right by me.”


ANSWER: Me too. Look to the answer above.



“Every person reading this and other blogs will know
there are no moral absolutes in Australia....
Thus is the argument with which many
paedophiles rationalise their depravity.

Accusing them of depravity
will elicit a response of “Depraved for whom?
Morality is relative remember.”

ANSWER: No, it is not. A standard load of double-aught removes the relativity.


As a side note: whether you are Abraham, or Rock Spider -
you have selected the wrong subject to intellectualize.
I think I understand what you are trying to say -
but I am not going to discuss the subject.
The only discussion I am ever going to have
with
someone who tries to rationalize paedophilia
or with a paedophile
is in the manner already discussed above.

Laura replied to Rock spider
Thu 09 Feb 12 (02:40pm)
Formerly A Political,
Rock Spider has
written
a slippery piece on moral relativism.

Paedophiles
have a way of writing in code.

They have a way of lumping certain things together
and telling you they’re on your side
as they jumble around with terms
and ask too cute by half questions like;
‘am I being intolerant and judgemental?’

Before you know it, you end up accepting that sixties flower children

belong in the same theoretical category as ‘sexual relationships with children’.

Paedophiles work subtly and sublimely.


They know how to groom children and they appear to know how to groom bloggers.

Do I know absolutely that Rock Spider is a paedophile? Of course not!

But I do recognise something in his writing
because I have read it before

and it’s been written by child rapists
who call themselves ‘boy lovers’.


Read ALL 3 Pages of the comments:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/kiddie_porn_horror/P0/

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truth of sydney (Reply)
Thu 09 Feb 12 (04:07pm)
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/kiddie_porn_horror/P40/

Most recent Heiner Affair articles:

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/goss/
true lilly wrote:I won’t peddle the theories, if they don’t peddle the conspiracies
Andrew Bolt – Saturday, February 11, 12 (11:22 am)

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Look, if global warmists don’t want sceptics to peddle conspiracy
theories about a “one world government”, it would help a lot if
they didn’t have something like it on the drawing board:

<blockquote>At a closed-door retreat in a Long Island mansion
late last October, United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and his
topmost aides brainstormed about how the global organization could benefit from a “unique opportunity” to reshape the world, starting with the Rio + 20 Summit on Sustainable Development, which takes place in Brazil in June.

A copy of the confidential minutes of the meeting was
obtained by Fox News. According to that document, the 29-member group,
known as the United Nations System Chief Executives Board for
Coordination (CEB), discussed bold ambitions that stretch for years
beyond the Rio conclave to consolidate a radical new global green
economy, promote a spectrum of sweeping new social policies and build an
even more important role for U.N. institutions “ to manage the process
of globalization better."…

Its members see Rio as the springboard for consolidation of an expanding
U.N. agenda for years ahead, driven by still more U.N.-sponsored global
summits that would, as one participant put it, “ensure that the U.N.
connected with the roots of the current level of global discontent.”

Among other things, the CEB heard Ban’s top organizer, a U.N. Under
Secretary General from China named Sha Zukang, declare that the wish
list for the Rio + 20 meeting, already being touted as a landmark
environmental conclave on the issue of “global environmental
governance,” included making it:
<blockquote> “the catalyst” for solidifying a global economic, social and political agenda, built around “green economy” goals

a means to “reorient public and private decision-making” to make the
world’s poorest people the new economy’s “main beneficiaries,”

a method of also reorienting national decision-making in countries
around the world to put the new agenda “at the heart of national
ministries,”

the occasion to create new bodies, like a U.N. Sustainable
Development Council, similar to the U.N. Human Rights Council, to help
guide the global process further in the years ahead, or give additional
responsibilities to the U.N. Environmental Program (UNEP), the world
body’s chief environmental agency.</blockquote>

Other participants chimed in with additional ideas, including the notion
from one key organizer that “the U.N. in Rio should be the voice of the
planet and its people.”

</blockquote>UPDATE

One World Government? Greens leader Bob Brown would approve:


(Thanks to readers. DERFred, bulmkt and Kathleen.)

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truth of sydney (Reply)
Thu 09 Feb 12 (04:07pm)
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/kiddie_porn_horror/P40/

Most recent Heiner Affair articles:

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/goss/
true lilly wrote:http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/kiddie_porn_horror/P20/
The Pixie Ear-Wax Rudd has announced the appointment of Qld Governor Quentin

Bryce as the next Governor General to replace Jefferies.

Bryce is supposedly a reformed alcoholic and
former President of The Qld Abuised Child Trust.


When presented with the Lindeberg Petition in relation to the Heiner Affair,
Bryce is known to said “it (The Heiner Affair) represents a boil which
cannot be lanced”.

A copy of the Lindeberg Petition can be obtained from the internet and has
been tabled in the Australian Senate and House of Representatives.

The petition included details of the destruction of the Heiner Documents
including details of the pack rape of “Annette”.

This is far worse than the situation involving the Howard government’s
appointment of Archbishop Hollingsworth.

Hollingsworth at no time was facing the prospect of being charged with a
criminal offence. Bryce on the other hand is facing the prospect of criminal
charges. This matter is currently before the Qld PCMC and by an unamious
decision the committee is believed to have requested a further submission
from Mr Lindeberg’s lawyers in relating to a solution to the grave impasse.

It should be noted that when a House of representatives Committee, chaired
by Bronwyn Bishop, looked at the Heiner Affair, including The Lindeberg
Grievance, it recommended the establishment of a Commission of Inquiry
(Royal Commission) and the appointment of a Special Prosecutor to process
the criminal charges.

Mrs Bryce is believed to be one of the sixty five individuals mentioned in
the Rofe Audit. This report was prepared by David Rofe QC a leading Sydney
barrister for Kevin Lindeberg. Mr Rudd is also one of the sixty five
individuals in the audit.

THE PROPOSED APPOINTMENT OF QUENTIN BRYCE TO THE POSITION OF GOVERNOR
GENERAL SHOULD BE SEEN AS AN ATTEMPT BY KEVIN THE PIXIE EAR-WAX RUDD TO
STAVE OFF THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM BEING SACKED AS PRIME MINISTER AFTER HIS
CRIMINALITY IN THE HEINER AFFAIR HAS BEEN EXPOSED

Finally the Liberals will have to bite the bullet and find their balls over
THe Heiner Affair.

tombrown (Reply)
Wed 08 Feb 12 (04:47pm)

Heiner Watcher replied to tombrown
Wed 08 Feb 12 (06:39pm)

All your own work, I see.

Link.

tombrown replied to tombrown
Wed 08 Feb 12 (10:05pm)

No, I cant post links for peanuts,but I sure can cut and paste.Never pretended otherwise.
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Post  mugglez Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:35 am

el kabong wrote:Ahoy!!! You've got two choices lilly; #1: Hold onto the pain and wallow in self-pity or;

#2: Accelerate your healing process and climb to new levels of fulfillment and understanding.

Cause & Effect

Gratitude, realise your 'cup runneth over'...........you have Freewill

The moment you let go of expectations you invoke Freewill, your ego is no longer in control
. thumbs up
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Post  mugglez Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:37 am

el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Yes, over these years of asking the world to
correct me where I'm wrong, I have made
much more detailed posts on these and related
topics, and rather than being corrected, I've seen
confirmations come with new news of 'discoveries'
of what Is Real In This Whole Real World.

Such as palomino's post on the sea bed near Ache
RISING by 25 meters, fitting God's Word, of the remaining
people of the Lost, Scattered, Mixed and Mingled members
of The Tribes of Israel, Walking DRY SHOD, Back Home,
to OZion.


Let's be honest lilly, Sheikh Snoopsnuffleopagus the Magnificent and Munificent, Slayer of Dragons, Tamer of Tigers and Lions and Keeper of the Wild White Unicorns has corrected you on numerous occassions. You ignore reality and facts seeking to STEAL the Jews Scriptures and reinterpret them to fit your warprd view of reality. thumbs up

FYI: Zion, in the original Hebrew is spelled Tsiyon, which refutes your contention that Zion is Austarliastan. thumbs up

Mashiyach tus that whoever wants to be "the greatest" in his Kingdom would be the servant of all. Being a "servant of all" means that a leader opens himself to be used by the Father to reach out to whomever He desires, as opposed to having a his or her own "little flock". The Kingdom of Elohim is represented by Tsiyon (pronounced Tsee-yone or Zion in English), a literal place in Jerusalem, that symbolizes a spiritual place, the seat of Mashiyach's government on this earth. Originally Zion was a small location in Jerusalem, then it became a code name for the whole city of Jerusalem.



For it is said in the Scripture, “Behold, in Tsiyon I lay a chosen and precious stone for the head of the corner; and whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.” On you therefore who believe is this honor conferred: but to them who do not believe “he is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” And they stumble at it because they believe not the Word from where they were appointed. But you are an elect race, officiating as priests of the Kingdom; a Set Apart people, a redeemed congregation; that you should proclaim the praises of him who called you out of darkness to his precious light: who formerly were not counted as a people but now are the people of Elohim; and also, there were (once) no mercies on you but now mercies are poured out upon you. My beloved, I entreat you as strangers and pilgrims, separate yourselves from all lusts of the body, for they war against the soul. And let your behavior be honorable before all men; so that they who utter evil speeches against you, may see your good actions and may praise Elohim in the day of trial. And be submissive to all the sons of men, for Elohim’s sake; to kings, on account of their authority; and to judges because they are sent by him for the punishment of offenders, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of Elohim, that by your good deeds you may stop the mouth of the foolish who do not know Elohim: As free men, you are not like men who make their freedom a cloak for their wickedness, but as the servants of Elohim. 1 Peter 2:6-16




Throughout Scripture we read of a Kingdom that is not of this earth, but it is shaped from the pattern that is in Heaven. The tabernacle in the wilderness was built according to the specifications that YHWH gave to Moses and within that tabernacle, each of the physical elements are symbols of the spiritual or heavenly Kingdom. It is also interesting to note that Zion is mentioned in 153 verses in the Tanakh... this is the same number of fish the disciples caught in John 21:11. The symbolism is clear, Yeshua taught his disciples how to build the Kingdom of Heaven, as opposed to a religion "about" the Kingdom of Heaven, a very big difference.



We are being trained to know what Tsiyon is, and what it is not. No religion or people's groups have exclusive rights to Tsiyon, it belongs to the people of Mashiyach regardless of religion, race, color or creed. The Government of Tsiyon is on the shoulder of Mashiyach. Mashiyach is returning to the Mount of Olives from whence he departed, but this time round Scripture tells us he will be Mashiyach Ben David a much different scenario than when he first came to earth.

Tsiyon is also the place in our neshama (spirit) where we connect with Mashiyach where our heart receives and gives love for all of Creation, where we can see all others through the eyes of Mashiyach and carry no prejudice towards anyone. The Kingdom is within us, it is not an external government or religion. Over the centuries there have been many Zionist movements who entrapped adherents into a nationalistic or global vision not of spiritual Zion but simply another ploy to gain control and power through labor, politics, wealth and strategies for power. The oligarchs of have big designs on greater and greater world dictatorial power which they borrowed from Nimrod, the original representative of anti-Messiah and anti-Zion.

As anyone can see, the events of the Tanakh/Bible from Shem onwards took place primarily in the Mid east.

Abraham, Joseph; sojourned in Egypt/Mizraim, Moshe/Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt to Canaan. Archaeological evidence proves these historical facts. The Hebrews founded Judah/Israel.

JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm

At the human level, Jesus is like us precisely in this: he did not exist or think or feel or pray in a vacuum, but rather within a continuum, a web of socio-cultural symbolic resonances, a universe of discourse within which deeds, thoughts, and words carried layers of meaning. Orthodox Christians are frightened of letting Jesus belong to a world like this, precisely because we know that if he is like us in belonging to such a world, he will he very unlike us in that his world is not our world. We are therefore, eager to flatten his world out or to declare, it of little relevance, because we want to be able to carry him, his message, and his timeless achievement of salvation across to our world without losing anything in the process. In this eagerness we forget what the NT writers and above all Jesus himself never forgot: that salvation is of the Jews, not in some trivial sense, but in the rich sense that in order to save the world the creator God chose Abraham and said “in your seed all the families of the earth will he blessed.” It is precisely because Jesus of Nazareth is the fulfillment of this promise that he is relevant in all times and places. It is precisely because he is The Jew par excellence that he is relevant to all Gentiles as well as Jews. This is the ultimately humiliating move for Gentile and Jew alike, precipitating an epistemology of humiliation whereby all may know this Jesus as the living, saving word of God, as different from us in the way that makes him the same as us, as over against us and therefore relevant to us. God consigned all to disobedience, that he might have mercy upon all,[29] a comment that is as relevant to epistemology as it is to soteriology.


Out of all this, I have argued in various places that we can, as historians, properly reconstruct Jesus of Nazareth’s sense of vocation. We can study John the Baptist’s vocation, and Paul’s: why should we not study Jesus’? When we do so, we find that dozens and dozens of lines of inquiry converge to produce a well ordered, coherent, historically credible sense of vocation, emerging in central symbolic actions, hinted at in a hundred cryptic and teasing sayings. Jesus believed he was Israel’s Messiah, the one in whom Israel’s history was to be summed up. Jesus believed he would win the messianic victory over the real enemy and would build the true messianic temple through taking Israel’s fate upon himself and going to the cross. Jesus believed that in doing so he was not just pointing to or talking about, but was actually embodying, the return of YHWH to Zion. These, though striking and startling, emerge from the world of Second Temple Judaism like the flower growing suddenly out of the plant. They were not expected, but upon inspection this is where they belonged. All the elements of the package were around somewhere in the culture. They are not, repeat not, a retrojection of later Christian theology, not even of later NT theology, which by and large developed in other legitimate ways. They are only credible, but they are totally credible, as the historically reconstructed mindset of Jesus himself. And they form, not the substance of later atonement and incarnational theology, but its historical starting point.


I have argued elsewhere that a central feature of Jewish expectation, and kingdom expectation at that, in Jesus’ time was the hope that YHWH would return in person to Zion. Having abandoned Jerusalem at the time of the exile, his return was delayed, but he would come back at last. Within this context, someone who told cryptic stories about a king or a master who went away, left his servants with tasks to perform, and then returned to see how they were getting on must—not “might,” must point to this controlling, over-arching metanarrative. Of course, the later Church, forgetting the first century Jewish context, read such stories as though they were originally about Jesus himself going away and then returning in a “second coming.” Of course, cautious scholars noticing this, deny that Jesus would have said such things. I propose that here at the heart of Jesus’ work, and at the moment of its climax, Jesus not only told stories about the king, who came back to Zion to judge and to save. He acted as though he thought the stories were coming true in what he himself was accomplishing. This is the context, at last, in which I think it best to approach the question with which this essay began.


And Jesus seems to have believed it about himself. The language was deeply coded, but the symbolic action was not. He was coming to Zion, doing what YHWH had promised to do. He explained his action with riddles all pointing in the same direction. Recognize this, and you start to see it all over the place, especially in parables and actions whose other layers have preoccupied us. Why, after all, does Jesus tell a story about a yearning father in order to account for his own behavior?[36] It is this that also accounts for his sovereign attitude to Torah, his speaking on behalf of Wisdom, and his announcement of forgiveness of sins.[37] By themselves none of these would be conclusive. Even if they are allowed to stand as words and actions of Jesus, they remain cryptic. But predicate them of the same young man who is then on his way to Jerusalem to confront the powers that be with the message and the action of the kingdom of God and who tells stories as he does which are best interpreted as stories of YHWH returning to Zion, then you have reached. I believe, the deep heart of Jesus’ own sense of vocation. He believed himself called to do and be what in the scriptures only Israel’s God did and was.


What are we therefore saying about the earthly Jesus? In Jesus himself, I suggest we see the biblical portrait of YHWH come to life: the loving God, rolling up his sleeves (Isa 52:10) to do in person the job that no one else could do, the creator God giving new life the God who works through his created world and supremely through his human creatures, the faithful God dwelling in the midst of his people, the stern and tender God relentlessly opposed to all that destroys or distorts the good creation, and especially human beings, but recklessly loving all those in need and distress. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd; he shall carry the lambs in his arms; and gently lead those that are with young” (Isa 40:11). It is the OT portrait of YHWH, but it fits Jesus like a glove.

So Tsiyon/Zion has Metaphysical/Spiritual meaning, Geographical Meaning and Political meaning. Can you comprehend these truths........?

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http://www.vbm-torah.org/

"AND I SHALL DWELL IN YOUR MIDST"
http://www.vbm-torah.org/archive/haftara/37behaal.htm
At this point in Zekharya's prophecy, we reach the section constituting our haftara, which opens with words of consolation. The initial verses are directed toward the nations and constitute a continuation of what had been stated previously regarding the feeling of the nations that God had abandoned and forsaken Israel:


Sing and rejoice, O Daughter of Zion; for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of you, says the Lord. And many nations shall join themselves to the Lord on that day, and shall be My people: and I will dwell in the midst of you, and you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me to you. And the Lord shall inherit Yehuda as his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. Be silent, all flesh, before the Lord: for He has roused himself out of His holy habitation. (2:14-17)


The essential point here is that God has returned to dwell among Israel. This is presented not as a spiritual achievement in and of itself, but as a response to the ideas circulating among Israel and the nations regarding the meaning of the destruction. Therefore, emphasis is placed not only on the idea that "I will dwell in the midst of you" - familiar to us from the Mishkan in the wilderness and from the mitzva to construct the Mikdash based on the command of "And let them make Me a sanctuary, that I may dwell among them" (Shemot 25:Cool - but also on the significance of that idea for Israel's situation, namely, the conclusion that "you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me to you." The prophet promises not only "inheritance in the holy land," but a renewed and constant selection of Jerusalem.[4]


[Another interesting point that is made in these verses is the impact that Israel's return to Zion will have on the nations who will undergo an inner upheaval and join those who serve God and become part of His people. The expression, "And many nations shall join themselves to the Lord on that day," is very reminiscent of the prophecy of Yeshayahu, who expands upon this idea: "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, every one that keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it, and all that take hold of My covenant" (Yeshayahu 56:6).]

The Reuniting of the Lost Tribes of Israel in Tsiyon/Zion: by an Actual Rabbi. Lilly, you are not a Rabbi, you do not know your Hebrew.......that is why you are so confused. thumbs up
http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/

http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/?page=home&type=1

The Full Restoration Of Israel!Part I of a Series

http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=1&type=12

In Genesis 13:14-16 Yahuwah our Heavenly Father promised Abram the land of Canaan as well as a promise of physical multiplicity of his zera or his seed (sperm). Abram was told that this promise of physical multiplicity will be so vast and so extensive that the entire earth will literally be full of his zera. Verse 16 reminds us that at the time that this promise is literally and physically brought to pass it will be absolutely impossible for mankind to even count it, or in any way census it, since mankind is totally impotent and unable to count the dust of the earth. This promise is straightforward, needing absolutely no interpretation or explanation. That same seed will inherit the land eventually to be known as Israel.

In Genesis 15 verses 1-6 we see Abram willing to help Yahuwah fulfill the promise of Genesis 13 by prematurely and incorrectly choosing Eliezer, a Gentile, who is not a physical offspring of Abram's own sperm or zera, to be the one through whom that promise would be brought to pass. However Yahuwah rebukes Abram and makes it clear to him that His promise of physical multiplicity that would become a number that man would not be able to number would not come through an adopted Gentile or a second class choice. No! Our Heavenly Father ordained that this promised heir would come from Abram's own body. He would not be adopted but he would be a physical descendent of Abram. It is through this physical descendent that Yahuwah once again promises Abram that his physical offspring will be more than the stars of Heaven. Obviously through modern science we know that our solar system has billions of stars and of course that other solar systems have many more billions. These stars in totality produce a number that mankind cannot even fathom. Yahuwah challenges Abram's lack of ability in counting the stars with the words "if you can" in verse five. It is because of Abram's pure faith and trust in Yahuwah that he receives imputed righteousness as a result of his believing and trusting in Yahuwah's promise. Notice there is only one promise not many promises. Abram was declared righteous by faith in Yahuwah's one promise. Whoever this physical seed would turn out to be it would literally have to be more than the dust particles of the sea and the visible stars of heaven. This promise must be taken extremely and solely on a literal face value. Any tendency to somehow spiritualize this promise is a lack of faith in Yahuwah's literal Word. That would be the very opposite of the faith of Abram himself.


The Rabbis got your number Lilly; thumbs up
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12
The hideous falsehood known as replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust. As history clearly demonstrates, Martin Luther, and other Protestant reformers blueprinted both the call, and the plans for the annihilation of the Jewish nation from Europe, and later the world by providing "so called Christians", with biblical justification to perpetrate genocide on world Jewry. Adolph Hitler knew full well that he could find theological approval, and support from these church folks. The inbred functionalism of this spiritual cancer amongst those that preach Yahshua is so widespread that it cannot be fully reversed, and eliminated until Yahshua’s millennial reign begins shortly when He returns to the earth. Even such seemingly benign church doctrines such as "Kingdom Now" theology or "Dominion" theology, where the so called "church" will christianize the world through the establishment of the bible as a global constitution, and whereby all world powers, and authorities will be won to, and taken over by Christendom, are nothing more than new attempts at replacing the "troublesome Jews". Wasn’t this flawed global christianization program, whereby Yahshua would merely take over a globally loyal populace converted through church efforts, already tried numerous times? Historically they were called the Crusades, Inquisitions, and Pogroms. Was it not the Crusaders who were attempting to take the globe by the sword, and convert, and subdue it by the gospel?

The world is going to experience a Paradigm Shift to Messianic Consciousness, with or without your cooperation........
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