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Post  Billy Ruben Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:25 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Spotlight turned on sex fiends



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Peter Rolfe

EXCLUSIVE: VICTORIA'S worst sex creeps have breached court orders more than 1000 times, leading to a major police policy shift.



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  • Editorial: Enforcement, transparency are clear winners
  • Figures go public: Sex offender register stats revealed



Sex offender register stats revealed



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AAP

VICTORIA'S sex offenders register is growing by 500 people a year and
has reached almost 4000, according to statistics released today.


If you use sex offenders,perverts and child porn just to make me angry,you are as sick as those who peddle this criminal and vulgar act and how bankrupt in spirit and God that you really are,that you would market such atrocities just to stimulate the desired emotional response.

And you have the hyde to pretend to stand against these acts.You repulse the reader and deepen your spiritual myopia.

I feel sorry for you.Disgusted,but sorry for you.You do have a mental illness,that is quite apparent now.Be gone,vile thing


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Post  true lilly Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:42 am

Endurance: Aussie adventurers break Antarctic record
Aussie adventurers break Antarctic record
by:Staff writer
From:news.com.au
January 18, 2012
4:24PM

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Justin Jones and James Castrission at the South Pole sphere on December 31 last year. Picture: AFP/You Can
AFP
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The pair at the start of their journey.
Picture: Supplied
The Daily Telegraph

AUSTRALIAN adventurers James 'Cas' Castrission and Justin 'Jonesy'
Jones have become the first to travel more than 1800km through the
Antarctic wilderness unassisted.

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Watch
Aussie adventurers take on the ice

They've already set a world record, now Cas and Jonesy
are embarking on a world first expedition across the South Pole
/ Kate Midena
10 August 2011news.com.au
Watch More Video

Castrission, 29, and Jones, 28, have spent the past 80 days
pursuing their quest to ski unsupported from the edge of Antarctica to
the South Pole and back.

If they are successful, they will set another record in being the first team
to complete the journey unassisted.

It is expected that the expedition will be completed in time for the last flight out of
Antarctica for the season on January 27.

The pair have trekked through the heaviest snowfall Antarctica has
experienced in years, with almost two weeks of white-out days and winds
up to 70km/h.

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  • Australia's admirable snowmen Herald Sun, 2 Dec 2011
They have taken only four rest days - mainly due to injuries - as
they push on to reach their goal and raise money for the youth cancer
campaign, You Can.

Both have lost 15-20kg and with just under 400km to go they are down to half-rations
and quickly running out of supplies.
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"This expedition has been both physically and mentally gruelling
but we've reached a great milestone overnight,'' Castrission said."We
are now down to half rations and are being pushed to our very limit,
but reaching the record overnight has given us a boost and we can't wait
to punch out the last few hundred kilometres and finish the job.''

Jones said it was a nice felling to set a new world record but their mission
was by no means complete.

"We've still got a lot of kilometres to cover to make it in time for that last
flight out of Antarctica and only when we step foot onto that flight
will we feel like we have achieved something special,'' he said.

The Crossing the Ice expedition endeavours to raise funds for the Sony
Foundation charitable campaign, You Can, which supports young people in
Australia with cancer.

Young Australians with cancer do not receive specialist treatment and are
placed in either paediatric or adult wards.


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true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:RE: "you must believe 'the experts' and deny God meant what He said".

Oh, all those World Council of Churches 'experts'
who keep disagreeing about every minute detail
EXCEPT the 'out of Egypt' BALD FACED LIE?

Umm so, la/bong/bill, why aren't you at DIF
kicking the devil out of "tintin/cori/yass/et al"?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3347

FFS, they even got their rocks off on the death of a tree,
because Anne Frank looked at it!


And I can assure you that "tintin" SPEWS THE SAME BITTER VENOM at 'Jews',
AS HE DOES ALL PAST AND PRESENT AUSTRALIAN SERVICEMEN, AND ALL
AUSTRALIANS GRATEFUL FOR THEIR PERSONAL SACRIFICES...oh, THAT'S WHY!

Look, I know you know what I know, but your job is to keep selling the lies,
and I simply provide real world evidences and links for others to consider if
they care to.

Unlike you, I'm not recruiting soldier salesmen to fight God, I'm not after
'numbers', I know that we're called by Spirit, and must each, individually
and freely chose to answer or not.

And unlike you, I don't deny The Holy Spirit of Truth, by denying that God
meant what He said, as you and all the world's 'accepted' religions do,
by trying to cram ALL THE HISTORY of ALL THE WORLD, ALL THE EARTH,
and ALL PEOPLES that GOD DESCRIBED FROM THE BEGINNING, into a few
thousand years, of a few groups of people, in a young corner of the globe.

Unlike all of you, I'm not invested in selling any belief, but simply in living
by my faith in the faithfulness of The Creator God, and part of that is freely
sharing the long hidden things God keeps revealing as he promised.

Thing being revealed, that make clear sense of what your 'experts' couldn't
even begin to 'interpret' 1000, 100, 50 or even 5 years ago, like that there
was only one land mass, that long after Noah started dividing, and that there
was life on earth before oxygen formed, and the 'prince of the air', death
began his rule, AS GOD DESCRIBED.

Anyway, for anyone who does care, context needs time and place,
just as understanding time and place, needs context, so maybe
starting with some contextually different meanings of that word:
TIME
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=time&t=KJV
time 3117
time 4150
time 6256
time 8145
time 6471
time 227

then maybe working through the different meanings of the 'same' numbers,
and so on, through all Holy Scripture, you'll come to understand why the
'out of Egypt' lie, is so important to 'them', that it's the one thing 'they'
all agree to agree on, and demand the world accepts.
Sounds of the sea
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Why the US Navy doesn't want us listening to the ocean deep
16 January 2012
Last updated at 17:21 GMT

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Sounds of the sea:
Listening online to the ocean floor


Satellite photos used to be for military eyes
only, but Google Earth changed all that. Now something similar is
happening to the ocean depths, with any web user able to listen in and
"surf the sea floor" - and the US Navy is not happy.


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By Rhitu Chatterjee and Rob Hugh-Jones
PRI's The World

"The cable is going underneath here," says Benoit
Pirenne, standing at the water's edge on Canada's Vancouver Island.
"It's going out 500 miles (800km) in a big loop in the ocean, coming
back in the same place."


The Vancouver cable connects a network of scientific
instruments on the floor of the north Pacific, some as deep as 1.5 miles
(2.5km).


Set up by Pirenne and his colleagues at the University of
Victoria, and called Neptune Canada, they continuously monitor the
marine environment.


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Ocean floor listening posts in the north Pacific off Vancouver Island


The scientists are harvesting large amounts of information,
including water pressure readings that help them better understand the
movement of tsunamis through oceans, which they hope will lead to more
accurate warning systems.


But they are also listening.

Pressure-sensitive microphones pick up the live sounds of
everything from whales and shipping to seismic activity and the movement
of tectonic plates, and this audio is shared with scientists all over
the world.


It's also now available to anyone else with an internet connection.

Ocean 'ears'

"This is like big ears placed on the bottom of the ocean,"
says Michel Andre, a bioacoustics expert at the Technical University of
Catalonia in Barcelona, as he listens to the audio being streamed live
from Vancouver.


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Many locations marked on listentothedeep.com stream audio in real time


Andre's passion is the study of noise in the ocean, both
natural and man-made, and how it affects marine life including whales
and dolphins.


"Sound travels five times faster through water than through
air, and in the ocean it can travel for thousands of miles," he says.


To help the non-scientific community appreciate just how noisy the oceans have become, he's launched a website called listentothedeep.com which streams the live sounds from Vancouver, and 14 other ocean floor "observatories" around the world.

"Here you can hear the noise coming from a ship," says Andre as he clicks on a green dot in the Mediterranean.

The ship is on the surface of the sea, but its monotonous
engine sound eerily dominates the soundscape more than a mile below.


Software developed by Andre's team can identify a range of different sounds.

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A graphic representation of the sound of the Japanese earthquake, 11 March 2011


"These coloured bars here represent the sound of sperm whales," he says.

"And if you click here, in the sound library, this is the noise of the Japanese earthquake."

An audio graph of bright orange shows the pattern of the
earthquake sound, which came from the Kushiro and Hatsushima
observatories off the coast of Japan, in March last year.


On Andre's site, the sound has been sped up to make it
audible to the human ear. It's a growing deep rumble, and a chilling
experience for anyone who followed the news of the devastating tsunami
that struck the Japanese mainland.


National security

For decades, the sounds of the deep sea were considered highly sensitive military data.

During the Cold War, the US Navy set up a network of
underwater microphones in many parts of the world to track Soviet
submarines.


Now the US Navy says it's not too concerned about friendly
civilian scientists listening in, but it is nervous about the opening up
of real time ocean sound to the general public.


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A spider crab investigates monitoring equipment on the Pacific floor


"It's a region where we have naval operations," says US Navy
oceanographer Robert Winokur, referring to the area off Vancouver
monitored by the scientists from Neptune Canada.


Beneath the surface

  • Leonardo Da Vinci noted in 1490 that sounds carry long distances under water - whale songs can travel thousands of miles
  • Sound travels about five times faster in water than in air, and is generally faster at greater depths
  • Marine mammals depend on sound for communication because sight
    and smell are less effective under water - scientists fear that shipping
    noise harms whales, porpoises and dolphins

  • Fish also hear sounds within a limited frequency range, and produce sound with their swim bladders and teeth
Allowing everyone to listen to
that part of the ocean poses a threat to US national security, he says,
because someone - he won't say who - might use that information to work
out the type and location of US naval vessels.


To reduce that threat, the US and Canadian navies have struck
a deal with the scientists that effectively allows them to censor the
sound of naval operations.


"Rather than it being sent to the internet in real time, we
divert it to a naval facility where the data are screened, and then
returned as soon as possible to the University of Victoria," says
Winokur.


In other words, the sound is scrubbed to remove the noise of naval vessels.

Widening the net


The US Navy says it hopes to work out similar arrangements with other ocean monitoring projects elsewhere in the world.

But Cornell University ocean acoustics expert Christopher Clark doubts it will succeed.

"The strategy they're using with Neptune (the Vancouver project) is a dead end," he says.

Clark insists the US Navy doesn't own the ocean acoustic
environment and should accept that what was once military technology is
now in the hands of civilians.


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A rattail fish swims past monitoring equipment in the Pacific


"The cat's out of the bag, the horses are out of the barn,
whatever the metaphor is, it's happening,"
he says.


The number of observatories on Michel Andre's website is
growing. The site currently links to listening networks only in the
northern hemisphere.


Soon 11 more will be added, connecting to microphones in the South Pacific, South Atlantic and the southern Indian Ocean.

That will open up an even larger swathe of the ocean deep to our ears.

Listen to more on this story at PRI's The World, a co-production of the BBC World Service, Public Radio International, and WGBH in Boston.

Picture credits: SPL, Reuters, Neptune Canada
_________________________________________________________

That's the second of 4,
BBC News, "Features and Analysis".
Here's the third:


'Unrestricted warfare'
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How Chinese military advances challenge the US

18 January 2012
Last updated at 00:30 GMT

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How China is advancing its military reach

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In recent months China's airforce and navy have rolled out new hardware


Related Stories

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As
the US shifts its focus to Asia, Alexander Neill, head of the Asia
Security Programme at the Royal United Services Institute, sets out the
Chinese military advances challenging the regional balance.


At the Pentagon recently, US President Barack Obama announced
deep cuts to the US military and set out a shift in attention towards
the Asia-Pacific region, in a thinly-veiled message to China.


Despite a narrative of peaceful intent, China's leaders have
struggled to reassure the US over the direction of the People's
Liberation Army (PLA). Both countries admit that their military
dialogue falls well behind other aspects of the relationship.


So the shift has brought renewed scrutiny of the PLA's latest capabilities against US dominance in the Pacific.

In recent years the PLA has demonstrated impressive new
capabilities at sea and in space, aimed at showcasing the success of its
modernisation effort.


The obvious message is to deliver a powerful warning if Taiwan were to declare formal independence.

But Pentagon planners are now concerned that the Taiwan
contingency has been eclipsed by China's broader maritime territorial
claims and demands for more international space to protect the arteries
feeding China's growth.


'Unrestricted warfare'


China is developing a range of capabilities linked to the
space and cyber domain in order to sidestep the overwhelming might of
the US military in the Pacific region. The PLA calls this fighting
"local wars under informationised conditions".


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China took the first step towards a space station when it launched the Tiangong 1 module


China recognised almost two decades ago that in the mid-term
the PLA could be no match for US conventional forces. So it began
working on what was dubbed "unrestricted warfare" - combining multiple
methods to defeat a superior opponent.


At the same time party leaders launched adventurous civilian
acquisition projects in the high-tech domain to increase Chinese
competitiveness and to boost indigenous production capabilities.


The PLA has been running military projects mirroring these
civilian acquisition ventures. Sometimes involving dual-use
technologies, the military and civilian strands have often been
indistinguishable.


China's space programme is a case in point. The recent
successful docking manoeuvre between a Shenzhou module and the Tiangong
Space station is as much a triumph for the PLA as it is for China's
civilian space agency.


Space theatre

Should the US ever intervene in a cross-strait clash or
challenge China's maritime claims, Beijing would employ a pre-emptive
"sea denial" strategy alongside its conventional operations - preventing
US battle carrier groups operating in or near its claimed territorial
waters.


Its submarine-launched ballistic and cruise missiles are now a
lethal force. China's long-range nuclear weapons systems have also
undergone significant upgrades and its strategic rocket force, the
Second Artillery Corps, is very much the pride of the PLA.


One of the most pressing concerns for the US navy is the
threat posed by a "carrier killer" anti-ship missile with enhanced
targeting capabilities facilitated from space. China very recently
launched its own Beidou Positioning System, challenging the monopoly of
the US Global Positioning System (GPS).


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One of the PLA's most sensitive advances has been the secret
deployment and testing of advanced anti-satellite (ASAT) and Anti
Ballistic Missile (ABM) weapons systems.


Two years ago, China successfully intercepted one of its own
ballistic missiles as it streaked through space. This test coincided
with the Pentagon's sale of Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) Patriot
systems to Taiwan.


Some experts believe a Chinese ASAT campaign against a
careful selected group of US satellites could have catastrophic effect
on the US military.


This capability, combined with the potential for China to
develop its own Ballistic Missile Defence umbrella, suggests that the
space domain will be a new theatre for US-China rivalry.


Chinese ASAT capabilities are not exclusively reserved for
"kill vehicles", like the one which obliterated an ageing Chinese
weather satellite in 2007.


It is now believed that the successful 2007 "kill" was in
fact the third test in a series. Previous tests had demonstrated an
ability to manoeuvre in proximity to targeted satellites.


This would suggest that China has experimented with
techniques which could be used for "space mining", where mines or
mini-satellites armed with jamming technologies could be placed within
the orbits of an opponent's spacecraft.


Carrier group

In addition to its "sea denial" and space warfare strategies, China is also expanding its conventional capabilities.

The PLA Air Force in recent years has extended its ability
for offshore operations, enhancing an offensive capability. It is
planning an overhaul of its ageing fleet with the deployment of over
3,000 new aircraft.


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China first aircraft carrier began sea trials in 2011


For the most part China has relied on copying Russian fighter
technology. However, the roll-out of the Chengdu J-20 Stealth fighter
prototype raised eyebrows last year, carefully timed to coincide with a
visit by the US defence secretary.


There have been some very significant developments in the
deployment of Chinese submarines in recent years. Beijing possesses 10
Russian-built ultra-quiet Kilo class submarines possibly armed with
200km-range anti-ship cruise missiles.


Since 2006, when a Chinese submarine surfaced undetected
within torpedo range of the US aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk, China's
submarine force has regularly marauded the US Navy and its allies in the
Pacific.


It is thought that China plans to build three aircraft
carrier battle groups, each armed with 40 fighters, up to eight
warships, three nuclear-powered attack submarines and a number of
support vessels. The PLA Navy's retrofitted Varyag carrier, currently
under sea-trials, will serve as a training platform.


Even if the aircraft carrier would likely be a prestige piece
and more directed at Chinese domestic pride, the prospect of a Chinese
aircraft carrier will certainly cause ripples for the broader East Asian
naval balance.


Uncertain factors

While much attention has been paid to the breakneck speed of
Chinese military modernisation over the last decade, the events of 9/11
and the subsequent campaigns in the Middle East and Afghanistan provided
a window of opportunity for China to accelerate development.


In some cases there may have been, quite literally, windfalls
for the PLA. There is speculation that China acquired undamaged
Tomohawk cruise missile components in the early stages of the
Afghanistan campaign a decade ago.


When US Special Forces failed to completely destroy one of
their stealth helicopters during Operation Geronimo, Pakistan's military
may have allowed PLA counterparts to inspect the tail rotor.


The PLA must be congratulating itself on the impressive array
of weaponry which has tilted the balance in the Taiwan Strait in its
favour.


China's new-found capabilities combined with the opaque
nature of its military modernisation create a formula for mistrust with
the US.


There are perhaps three factors for uncertainty. Firstly, the
Chinese military's confidence in its new equipment could lead to an
overestimation of its capability as an emerging great power.


Secondly, the Chinese leadership could underestimate its
ability to control an unexpected escalation of hostilities in the
Pacific.


Finally, the domestic political factor - the PLA's external
behaviour could become a reaction to internal nationalistic sentiment,
instability or faction fighting as Beijing prepares for the fifth
generation leadership handover this year.
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As "tintin" loves to go on about
countries being shaped like other countries and things:
note;
Australia's Happy Face,
in the Australian Government Antarctic Site Image;
(and the large area of Antarctic territory owns Very Happy Wink );

the image used by the BBC,

Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth,
where the drilling is being carried out,
is in the West of Antarctica.

and the BBC image of,
China's range of anti-ship ballistic missiles.

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God exists, and keeps all His promises.
Easy to see and understand when one reads what He described,
of, and from, The Beginning.
Bless God. Bless His House. Bless all who serve Him.
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Post  Billy Ruben Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:27 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:It's About Time

Babel Island


Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia

'Billy Ruben' ATTACKS RAPE VICTIM WITH DEATH THREATS

...and 'Billy Ruben', who 'claims' to be Aboriginal "when it pays him to",
doesn't want anyone learning about Australia's most ancient history,
so attacks me for posting discoveries of MY COUNTIES MOST ANCIENT FUTURE...
...so yeah, on top of everything else 'Billy Ruben' (who are a mob of scum, btw),
spams 'their' cow manure over, oh, and all the real gossip 'they' respond to on line,

and on line posts 'they' respond to in the real world...the whole herd of horses have
bolted, and the cats are swallowing rats by the dozen.






rolf lmao rolf lmao rolf lmao


Do really think I care for what you imagine.I know you're a true racist bitch.I joke around,but don't mean a thing.You try,but fail to alienate me,I'm already am.

You achieve nothing,but expose yourself you vile maggot.

Maggot is a term my mother used to describe my brother Shane and alienate him to.That and call him Damien the Omen.So I'm well suited to take on sick f*cks like you Mz Ryan.I grew up with shitboxes of excuses for women.I hate my own mother,don't expect me to cut you slack in future.

"Orrible Bitch...


dogshag dogshag dogshag dogshag




and you do fuck dogs...poor Poppy!!!!


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Post  MoMo Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:57 pm

le sabrage wrote:
el kabong wrote:Lilly; the Queen of Bullshits Enemies List lmao rolf popcorn


true lilly wrote: Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia - Page 4 TinFoilHat


P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, ♥️WW♥️, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin satan adolf ccc guillotine
[b]

[b]I made the list twice, you're redundant, unefficient.
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el kabong wrote:Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland


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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave

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http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
noway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

thinking hmm noway

Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia - Page 4 1104-3 flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

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Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia - Page 4 Article-1044992-0247CEE200000578-444_468x595

Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Narcissistic Personality Disorder
By Psych Central Staff


http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm


Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a "narcissist" or as someone with "narcissism." Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
•Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
•Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
•Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
•Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
•Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


Specifically:

Characteristics of Narcissistic Women

http://www.livestrong.com/article/72413-characteristics-narcissistic-women/


Women who are narcissistic think about themselves before others and act as if the world revolves around them. Women who have narcissistic personality disorder also always put themselves first; however, the personality disorder affects their lives occupationally and socially. Other people are turned off by women with narcissistic personality disorder due to their lack of empathy, inability to relate to others, sense of grandiosity and arrogant behaviors and attitude.

Self-Centered
Many people prioritize themselves and sometimes act self-centered. Women who are narcissistic almost always act self-centered and have a hard time understanding why they can't maintain long-term relationships with girlfriends or maintain romantic relationships. They will blame relationship problems on others instead of taking any responsibility. For instance, if a woman who has a narcissistic personality disorder gets married and has children, she'll put her wishes and needs above those of her husband and children. She might spend money to buy herself designer clothes while her husband shops at consignment stores. She may get her nails and hair done instead of taking her daughter to ballet lessons.

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Women who are narcissistic need all eyes to be on them and they will do almost anything to make sure the attention is on them. A woman who's narcissistic will interrupt people in the middle of a conversation to turn the subject to herself. She might make her stories seem more dramatic. For instance, she might tell a group of people that her sister is in the hospital due to an almost fatal accident to gain sympathy, when her sister really went to the hospital for a broken arm.

A narcissistic woman might dress provocatively to get the attention of men and talk herself up when meeting a potential date. She might tell him that she runs her entire company or donates her extra time on the weekend to charity when she really doesn't. As long as she's getting undivided attention, she's happy.

Lack of Empathy
Lack of empathy leads to many social problems. When women can't relate to others, it impacts their ability to have meaningful relationships and can also cause problems in the workplace. For instance, a woman with a narcissistic personality disorder has a hard time reading social cues and responding to them. She might be flippant with someone who is sad or antagonize someone who is already angry.

Criticism
A woman who is narcissistic does not respond well to criticism, even if the criticism is thoughtful and constructive, but she's quick to criticize others. This can significantly impact her occupationally. A woman with this issue probably becomes angry and possible defiant when criticized by peers, supervisors, family and friends. She may respond with anger even though she feels deep embarrassment or shame.



Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/72413-characteristics-narcissistic-women/#ixzz1jGfeY1pv



Do you see lilly? There is no difference between you, tinnytintin, cori, david icke, eternal spirit..............in order to be the centre of attention you abandon truth, reality and dignity................how sad.................how tragic..............only you, with the help of YHWH and Yahshua can help yourself.....I shall pray for you........here's some truth for you........ thumbs up

Jerusalem:

Jerusalem Called "Zion"

http://www.biblicalzionist.com/calledzion.html

2Sm 5:7
Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

1Kg 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to king Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

2Kg 19:21,31
21 This is the word that Yahweh has spoken concerning him: The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you; the daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
31 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion those who shall escape: the zeal of Yahweh shall perform this.

1Ch 11:5
The inhabitants of Jebus said to David, You shall not come in here. Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

2Ch 5:2
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

Ps 2:6
“Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Zion.”

Ps 9:11,14
11 Sing praises to Yahweh, who dwells in Zion,
and declare among the people what he has done.
14 that I may show forth all your praise.
In the gates of the daughter of Zion, I will rejoice in your salvation.

Ps 14:7
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When Yahweh restores the fortunes of his people,
then Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 20:2
send you help from the sanctuary,
grant you support from Zion,

Ps 48:2,11,12
2 Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth,
is Mount Zion, on the north sides,
the city of the great King.
11 Let Mount Zion be glad!
Let the daughters of Judah rejoice,
Because of your judgments.
12 Walk about Zion, and go around her.
Number its towers.

Ps 50:2
Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God shines forth.

Ps 51:18
Do well in your good pleasure to Zion.
Build the walls of Jerusalem.

Ps 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When God brings back his people from captivity,
then Jacob shall rejoice,
and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 69:35
For God will save Zion, and build the cities of Judah.
They shall settle there, and own it.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 76:2
His tabernacle is also in Salem;
His dwelling place in Zion.

Ps 78:68
But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which he loved.

Ps 84:7
They go from strength to strength.
Everyone of them appears before God in Zion.

Ps 87:2,5
2 Yahweh loves the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
5 Yes, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one was born in her;”
the Most High himself will establish her.

Ps 97:8
Zion heard and was glad.
The daughters of Judah rejoiced,
because of your judgments, Yahweh.

Ps 99:2
Yahweh is great in Zion.
He is high above all the peoples.

Ps 102:13,16,21
13 You will arise and have mercy on Zion;
for it is time to have pity on her.
Yes, the set time has come.
16 For Yahweh has built up Zion.
He has appeared in his glory.
21 that men may declare the name of Yahweh in Zion,
and his praise in Jerusalem;

Ps 110:2
Yahweh will send forth the rod of your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of your enemies.

Ps 125:1
Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion,
which can’t be moved, but remains forever.

Ps 126:1
When Yahweh brought back those who returned to Zion,
we were like those who dream.

Ps 128:5
May Yahweh bless you out of Zion,
and may you see the good of Jerusalem all the days of your life.

Ps 129:5
Let them be disappointed and turned backward,
all those who hate Zion.

Ps 132:13
For Yahweh has chosen Zion.
He has desired it for his habitation.

Ps 133:3
like the dew of Hermon,
that comes down on the hills of Zion:
for there Yahweh gives the blessing,
even life forevermore.

Ps 134:3
May Yahweh bless you from Zion;
even he who made heaven and earth.

Ps 135:21
Blessed be Yahweh from Zion,
Who dwells at Jerusalem.
Praise Yah!

Ps 137:1,3
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down.
Yes, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
3 For there, those who led us captive asked us for songs.
Those who tormented us demanded songs of joy:
“Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”

Ps 146:10
Yahweh will reign forever;
your God, O Zion, to all generations.
Praise Yah!

Ps 147:12
Praise Yahweh, Jerusalem!
Praise your God, Zion!

Ps 149:2
Let Israel rejoice in him who made them.
Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

SS 3:11
Go forth, you daughters of Zion, and see king Solomon,
with the crown with which his mother has crowned him,
in the day of his weddings,
in the day of the gladness of his heart.

Is 1:8,27
8 The daughter of Zion is left like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a besieged city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with justice,
and her converts with righteousness.

Is 2:3
Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

Is 3:16,17
16 Moreover Yahweh said, “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty,
and walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes,
walking to trip as they go,
jingling ornaments on their feet;
17 therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion,
and Yahweh will make their scalps bald.”

Is 4:3-5
3 It will happen, that he who is left in Zion, and he who remains in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even everyone who is written among the living in Jerusalem;
4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from its midst, by the spirit of justice, and by the spirit of burning.
5 Yahweh will create over the whole habitation of Mount Zion, and over her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for over all the glory will be a canopy.

Is 8:18
Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Armies, who dwells in Mount Zion.

Is 10:12,24,32
12 Therefore it will happen that, when the Lord has performed his whole work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the willful proud heart of the king of Assyria, and the insolence of his haughty looks.
24 Therefore the Lord, Yahweh of Armies, says “My people who dwell in Zion, don’t be afraid of the Assyrian, though he strike you with the rod, and lift up his staff against you, as Egypt did.
32 This very day he will halt at Nob. He shakes his hand at the mountain of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

Is 12:6
Cry aloud and shout, you inhabitant of Zion; for the Holy One of Israel is great in the midst of you!”

Is 14:32
What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That Yahweh has founded Zion, and in her the afflicted of his people will take refuge.

Is 16:1
Send the lambs for the ruler of the land from Selah to the wilderness, to the mountain of the daughter of Zion.

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 24:23
Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed; for Yahweh of Armies will reign on Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem; and before his elders will be glory.

Is 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh, “Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. He who believes shall not act hastily.

Is 29:8
It will be like when a hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats; but he awakes, and his hunger isn’t satisfied; or like when a thirsty man dreams, and behold, he drinks; but he awakes, and behold, he is faint, and he is still thirsty. The multitude of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion will be like that.

Is 30:19
For the people will dwell in Zion at Jerusalem. You will weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the voice of your cry. When he hears you, he will answer you.

Is 31:4,9
4 For thus says Yahweh to me,
“As the lion and the young lion growling over his prey,
if a multitude of shepherds is called together against him,
will not be dismayed at their voice,
nor abase himself for the noise of them,
so Yahweh of Armies will come down to fight on Mount Zion and on its heights.
9 His rock will pass away by reason of terror,
and his princes will be afraid of the banner,”
says Yahweh, whose fire is in Zion,
and his furnace in Jerusalem.

Is 33:5,14,20
5 Yahweh is exalted, for he dwells on high.
He has filled Zion with justice and righteousness.
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid.
Trembling has seized the godless ones.
Who among us can live with the devouring fire?
Who among us can live with everlasting burning?
20 Look at Zion, the city of our appointed festivals.
Your eyes will see Jerusalem, a quiet habitation,
a tent that won’t be removed.
Its stakes will never be plucked up,
nor will any of its cords be broken.

Is 34:8
For Yahweh has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Is 35:10
The Yahweh’s ransomed ones will return,
and come with singing to Zion;
and everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
and sorrow and sighing will flee away.”

Is 37:22,32
22 this is the word which Yahweh has spoken concerning him. The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you. The daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
32 For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and survivors will escape from Mount Zion. The zeal of Yahweh of Armies will perform this.’

Is 40:9
You who tell good news to Zion, go up on a high mountain.
You who tell good news to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with strength.
Lift it up. Don’t be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah, “Behold, your God!”

Is 41:27
I am the first to say to Zion, ‘Behold, look at them;’
and I will give one who brings good news to Jerusalem.

Is 46:13
I bring near my righteousness, it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not wait; and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Is 49:14
But Zion said, Yahweh has forsaken me, and the Lord has forgotten me.

Is 51:3,11,16
3 For Yahweh has comforted Zion; he has comforted all her waste places, and has made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Yahweh; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
11 The ransomed of Yahweh shall return, and come with singing to Zion; and everlasting joy shall be on their heads: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
16 I have put my words in your mouth, and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and tell Zion, You are my people.

Is 52:1,2,7,8
1 Awake, awake, put on your strength, Zion; put on your beautiful garments, Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake yourself from the dust; arise, sit on your throne, Jerusalem: loose yourself from the bonds of your neck, captive daughter of Zion.
7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of good, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, Your God reigns!
8 The voice of your watchmen! they lift up the voice, together do they sing; for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahweh returns to Zion.

Is 59:20
A Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from disobedience in Jacob, says Yahweh.

Is 60:14
The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 61:3
to appoint to those who mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Yahweh, that he may be glorified.

Is 62:1,11
1 For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until her righteousness go forth as brightness, and her salvation as a lamp that burns.
11 Behold, Yahweh has proclaimed to the end of the earth, Say you to the daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation comes; behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him.

Is 64:10
Your holy cities are become a wilderness, Zion is become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Is 66:8
Who has heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Jr 3:14
Return, backsliding children, says Yahweh; for I am a husband to you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Jr 4:6,31
6 Set up a standard toward Zion: flee for safety, don’t stay; for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, the anguish as of her who brings forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, who gasps for breath, who spreads her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul faints before the murderers.

Jr 6:2,23
2 The comely and delicate one, the daughter of Zion, will I cut off.
23 They lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy; their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, everyone set in array, as a man to the battle, against you, daughter of Zion.

Jr 8:19
Behold, the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people from a land that is very far off: isn’t Yahweh in Zion? Isn’t her King in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their engraved images, and with foreign vanities?

Jr 9:19
For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we ruined! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because they have cast down our dwellings.

Jr 14:19
Have you utterly rejected Judah? has your soul loathed Zion? why have you struck us, and there is no healing for us? We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of healing, and behold, dismay!

Jr 26:18
Micah the Morashtite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah; and he spoke to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus says Yahweh of Armies: Zion shall be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.

Jr 30:17
For I will restore health to you, and I will heal you of your wounds, says Yahweh; because they have called you an outcast, saying, It is Zion, whom no man seeks after.

Jr 31:6,12
6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen on the hills of Ephraim shall cry, Arise you, and let us go up to Zion to Yahweh our God.
12 They shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow to the goodness of Yahweh, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

Jr 50:5,28
5 They shall inquire concerning Zion with their faces turned toward it, saying, Come you, and join yourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant that shall not be forgotten.
28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our God, the vengeance of his temple.

Jr 51:10,24,35
10 Yahweh has brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of Yahweh our God.
24 I will render to Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, says Yahweh.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be on Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and, My blood be on the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.

Lm 1:4,6,17
4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn assembly;
all her gates are desolate, her priests do sigh:
her virgins are afflicted, and she herself is in bitterness.
6 From the daughter of Zion all her majesty is departed:
her princes are become like harts that find no pasture,
they are gone without strength before the pursuer.
17 Zion spreads forth her hands; there is none to comfort her;
Yahweh has commanded concerning Jacob, that those who are around him should be his adversaries:
Jerusalem is among them as an unclean thing.

Lm 2:1,4,6,8,10,13,18
1 How has the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger!
He has cast down from heaven to the earth the beauty of Israel,
And hasn’t remembered his footstool in the day of his anger.
4 He has bent his bow like an enemy, he has stood with his right hand as an adversary,
Has killed all that were pleasant to the eye:
In the tent of the daughter of Zion he has poured out his wrath like fire.
6 He has violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden; he has destroyed his place of assembly:
Yahweh has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion,
Has despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
8 Yahweh has purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion;
He has stretched out the line, he has not withdrawn his hand from destroying;
He has made the rampart and wall to lament; they languish together.
10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit on the ground, they keep silence;
They have cast up dust on their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth:
The virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
13 What shall I testify to you? what shall I liken to you, daughter of Jerusalem?
What shall I compare to you, that I may comfort you, virgin daughter of Zion?
For your breach is great like the sea: who can heal you?
18 Their heart cried to the Lord:
wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night;
Give yourself no respite; don’t let the apple of your eye cease.

Lm 4:2,11,22
2 The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold,
How are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!
11 Yahweh has accomplished his wrath, he has poured out his fierce anger;
He has kindled a fire in Zion, which has devoured its foundations.
22 The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, daughter of Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity:
He will visit your iniquity, daughter of Edom; he will uncover your sins.

Lm 5:11,18
11 They ravished the women in Zion,
The virgins in the cities of Judah.
18 For the mountain of Zion, which is desolate:
The foxes walk on it.

Jl 2:1,15,23,32
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of Yahweh comes,
for it is close at hand:
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion!
Sanctify a fast.
Call a solemn assembly.
23 “Be glad then, you children of Zion,
and rejoice in Yahweh, your God;
for he gives you the former rain in just measure,
and he causes the rain to come down for you,
the former rain and the latter rain,
as before.
32 It will happen that whoever will call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved;
for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,
as Yahweh has said,
and among the remnant, those whom Yahweh calls.

Jl 3:16,17,21
16 Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and thunder from Jerusalem;
and the heavens and the earth will shake;
but Yahweh will be a refuge to his people,
and a stronghold to the children of Israel.
17 “So you will know that I am Yahweh, your God,
dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem will be holy,
and no strangers will pass through her any more.
21 I will cleanse their blood,
that I have not cleansed:
for Yahweh dwells in Zion.”

Am 1:2
He said:
“Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and utter his voice from Jerusalem;
and the pastures of the shepherds will mourn,
and the top of Carmel will wither.”

Am 6:1
Woe to those who are at ease in Zion,
and to those who are secure on the mountain of Samaria,
the notable men of the chief of the nations,
to whom the house of Israel come!

Ob 1:17,21
17 But in Mount Zion, there will be those who escape, and it will be holy. The house of Jacob will possess their possessions.
21 Saviors will go up on Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau, and the kingdom will be Yahweh’s.

Mc 1:13
Harness the chariot to the swift steed, inhabitant of Lachish.
She was the beginning of sin to the daughter of Zion;
For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

Mc 3:10,12
10 They build up Zion with blood,
and Jerusalem with iniquity.
12 Therefore Zion for your sake will be plowed like a field,
and Jerusalem will become heaps of rubble,
and the mountain of the temple like the high places of a forest.

Mc 4:2,7,8,10,11,13
2 Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion will go forth the law,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem;
7 and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”
8 You, tower of the flock, the hill of the daughter of Zion,
to you it will come,
yes, the former dominion will come,
the kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem.
10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, daughter of Zion,
like a woman in travail;
for now you will go forth out of the city,
and will dwell in the field,
and will come even to Babylon.
There you will be rescued.
There Yahweh will redeem you from the hand of your enemies.
11 Now many nations have assembled against you, that say,
“Let her be defiled,
and let our eye gloat over Zion.”
13 Arise and thresh, daughter of Zion;
for I will make your horn iron,
and I will make your hoofs brass;
and you will beat in pieces many peoples:
and I will devote their gain to Yahweh,
and their substance to the Lord of the whole earth.

Zp 3:14,16
14 Sing, daughter of Zion! Shout, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all your heart, daughter of Jerusalem.
16 In that day, it will be said to Jerusalem, “Don’t be afraid, Zion. Don’t let your hands be slack.”

Zc 1:14,17
14 So the angel who talked with me said to me, “Proclaim, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
17 “Proclaim further, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “My cities will again overflow with prosperity, and Yahweh will again comfort Zion, and will again choose Jerusalem.”’”

Zc 2:7,10
7 ‘Come, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.’
10 Sing and rejoice, daughter of Zion; for, behold, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of you,’ says Yahweh.

Zc 8:2,3
2 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath.”
3 Thus says Yahweh: “I have returned to Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be called ‘The City of Truth;’ and the mountain of Yahweh of Armies, ‘The Holy Mountain.’”

Zc 9:9,13
9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion!
Shout, daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king comes to you!
He is righteous, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding on a donkey,
even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
13 For indeed I bend Judah as a bow for me.
I have filled the bow with Ephraim;
and I will stir up your sons, Zion,
against your sons, Greece,
and will make you like the sword of a mighty man.



Jerusalem:

The nations will come to Jerusalem



Is 2:2,3
2 It shall happen in the latter days, that the mountain of Yahweh’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains,
and shall be raised above the hills;
and all nations shall flow to it.
3 Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 60:3,5,10,11,14
3 Nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.
5 Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall thrill and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you.
10 Foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you: for in my wrath I struck you, but in my favor have I had mercy on you.
11 Your gates also shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, and their kings led captive.
14 The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 66:12,18
12 For thus says Yahweh, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the nations like an overflowing stream: and you shall suck of it; you shall be borne on the side, and shall be dandled on the knees.
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: the time comes, that I will gather all nations and languages; and they shall come, and shall see my glory.

Jr 3:17
At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of Yahweh; and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of Yahweh, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart.

Mc 4:2
Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Zc 8:22,23
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations will come to seek Yahweh of Armies in Jerusalem, and to entreat the favor of Yahweh.”
23 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “In those days, ten men will take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, they will take hold of the skirt of him who is a Jew, saying, ‘We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’”

Zc 14:16-19
16 It will happen that everyone who is left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, and to keep the feast of tents.
17 It will be, that whoever of all the families of the earth doesn’t go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt doesn’t go up, and doesn’t come, neither will it rain on them. This will be the plague with which Yahweh will strike the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.


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Post  true lilly Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:25 am

Breaking News
5:56PM

Scientists shocked by Tasman sea heat up

Um, WHY 'shocked'?

Since way before
the destruction of once great,
South American Kingdoms,
MAN HAS KNOWN
that The WEATHER CHANGES
WHEN
The SEA TEMPERATURES CHANGE,
and we KNOW that IT IS,
DEEP SEA VOLCANIC ACTIVITY
that DOES THAT!

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:

  • Breaking news
  • Canberra street closed after suspicious packages found at Israeli and French embassies
  • http://www.abc.net.au/news
Interestingly though,
it WAS "Breaking" News , but WITH NO LINK or REPORT,
at The GOVERNMENT'S ANTI-ISRAEL/LEFTY ABC,
and now,
EVEN THAT "BREAKING NEWS" HEADLINE IS GONE...

but it's "BROKEN" at Murdoch's Herald Sun...




Suspicious packages found at two embassies
SUSPICIOUS packages have been found at the Israeli and French embassies in Canberra. Read more
Well here "IT" is...

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Photo: It is not clear if the incident at
the Israeli and French embassies are linked. (ABC TV)

...and NO, AGAIN NOT SURPRISED that it is
ONLY an image of The ISRAELI EMBASSY
that The ABC CHOOSE TO "SHOW"...
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true lilly wrote:
KIM SATTLER, "A MURRI WOMAN",
From QUEENSLAND.

"A MURRI WOMAN" means
SHE CLAIMS THE EXTRA BENEFITS
AUSTRALIANS PAY TO ABORIGINALS.

So, I Googled, "Kim Sattler", images,
after reading The STORY (4th link below) in THE AGE (Fairfax),
and was NOT AT ALL SURPRISED to find:
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408 × 229 - Labor figure Kim Sattler named as go-between in protest
http://www.theage.com.au/national/labor-figure-kim-sattler-named-as-gobetween-in-protest-20120128-1qmre.html

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2 days ago
sandra_thumb_16x9‑408x264.jpg
brisbanetimes.com.au
408 × 229 - UnionsACT's Kim Sattler named as go-between in protest
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/labor-figure-kim-sattler-named-as-gobetween-in-protest-20120128-1qmre.html

Interesting that those two images were linked to,
BUT NOT FOUND IN, this STORY by Fairfax:

theage.com.au

Labor figure Kim Sattler named
as go-between in protest

Misha Schubert
January 28, 2012
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/labor-figure-kim-sattler-named-as-gobetween-in-protest-20120128-1qmre.html#ixzz1kteOR6z7

Ah, but then another Fairfax paper chooses to omit
that FAT CAT UNIONIST FAT WHITE WOman's
claims to "BEING BLACK",
and tells us:


"Despite having Jewish great-grandparents,
she called for a boycott of Israeli-made goods
in protest at Israel's 2010 raid on a flotilla of ships
that was attempting to break the blockade of the Gaza Strip."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/union-leaders-long-history-of-activism-20120129-1qo2v.html#ixzz1ktj5udXI


So, how many of those 8 GREAT-Grandparents
are "THE JEWS" "They" want us to blame,
for that FAT CAT UNIONIST/GREEN/NAZI
SHIT STIRRING FAT WHITE WOman's FILTHY character?

true lilly wrote:Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia - Page 4 Black-penguin-resi_1593403c
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9046826/Britain-could-not-reclaim-the-Falklands-if-Argentina-invades-warns-General-Sir-Michael-Jackson.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/7405253/Pictured-rare-black-penguin-living-off-the-Falklands-coast.html
Prince William deployed to the Faulklands;

Obama moving into the South Pacific;

'Whale' WARS in OUR Antarctic Seas;

FIGHTING PATAGONIAN 'Toothfish' Poachers
in OUR Southern Seas;

ISLAMIC INVADERS boating in via OUR NORTH Seas;

and much more besides, that God Warned us to watch for.

EZEKIEL 38:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=38&v=1&t=KJV#1

But still, the myths and religions of man,
must be shoved down our throats,

as there is still sifting and sorting to be done...


REVELATIONS 2 & 3:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=2&t=KJV#1
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=3&v=1&t=KJV
true lilly wrote:EPIC BATTLE, TRUE WARRIOR
True Warrior

Novak Djokovic savoured the greatest win of his career,
despite being left with "outrageous" pain
in his record Australian Open final victory.

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TRUE BLUE, IT IS, "ABOUT TIME"...
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true lilly wrote:Endurance: Aussie adventurers break Antarctic record
Aussie adventurers break Antarctic record
by:Staff writer
From:news.com.au
January 18, 2012
4:24PM

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Justin Jones and James Castrission at the South Pole sphere on December 31 last year. Picture: AFP/You Can
AFP
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The pair at the start of their journey.
Picture: Supplied
The Daily Telegraph

AUSTRALIAN adventurers James 'Cas' Castrission and Justin 'Jonesy'
Jones have become the first to travel more than 1800km through the
Antarctic wilderness unassisted.

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Watch
Aussie adventurers take on the ice

They've already set a world record, now Cas and Jonesy
are embarking on a world first expedition across the South Pole
/ Kate Midena
10 August 2011news.com.au
Watch More Video

Castrission, 29, and Jones, 28, have spent the past 80 days
pursuing their quest to ski unsupported from the edge of Antarctica to
the South Pole and back.

If they are successful, they will set another record in being the first team
to complete the journey unassisted.

It is expected that the expedition will be completed in time for the last flight out of
Antarctica for the season on January 27.

The pair have trekked through the heaviest snowfall Antarctica has
experienced in years, with almost two weeks of white-out days and winds
up to 70km/h.

Related Coverage



  • Aussie pair reach South Pole on foot Adelaide Now, 1 Jan 2012
  • Aussies reach Pole in record bid Herald Sun, 1 Jan 2012
  • Antarctic trek duo reach pole The Australian, 31 Dec 2011
  • Solo bid to cross the Antarctic The Daily Telegraph, 19 Dec 2011
  • Australia's admirable snowmen Herald Sun, 2 Dec 2011
They have taken only four rest days - mainly due to injuries - as
they push on to reach their goal and raise money for the youth cancer
campaign, You Can.

Both have lost 15-20kg and with just under 400km to go they are down to half-rations
and quickly running out of supplies.
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"This expedition has been both physically and mentally gruelling
but we've reached a great milestone overnight,'' Castrission said."We
are now down to half rations and are being pushed to our very limit,
but reaching the record overnight has given us a boost and we can't wait
to punch out the last few hundred kilometres and finish the job.''

Jones said it was a nice felling to set a new world record but their mission
was by no means complete.

"We've still got a lot of kilometres to cover to make it in time for that last
flight out of Antarctica and only when we step foot onto that flight
will we feel like we have achieved something special,'' he said.

The Crossing the Ice expedition endeavours to raise funds for the Sony
Foundation charitable campaign, You Can, which supports young people in
Australia with cancer.

Young Australians with cancer do not receive specialist treatment and are
placed in either paediatric or adult wards.


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true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:RE: "you must believe 'the experts' and deny God meant what He said".

Oh, all those World Council of Churches 'experts'
who keep disagreeing about every minute detail
EXCEPT the 'out of Egypt' BALD FACED LIE?

Umm so, la/bong/bill, why aren't you at DIF
kicking the devil out of "tintin/cori/yass/et al"?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3347

FFS, they even got their rocks off on the death of a tree,
because Anne Frank looked at it!


And I can assure you that "tintin" SPEWS THE SAME BITTER VENOM at 'Jews',
AS HE DOES ALL PAST AND PRESENT AUSTRALIAN SERVICEMEN, AND ALL
AUSTRALIANS GRATEFUL FOR THEIR PERSONAL SACRIFICES...oh, THAT'S WHY!

Look, I know you know what I know, but your job is to keep selling the lies,
and I simply provide real world evidences and links for others to consider if
they care to.

Unlike you, I'm not recruiting soldier salesmen to fight God, I'm not after
'numbers', I know that we're called by Spirit, and must each, individually
and freely chose to answer or not.

And unlike you, I don't deny The Holy Spirit of Truth, by denying that God
meant what He said, as you and all the world's 'accepted' religions do,
by trying to cram ALL THE HISTORY of ALL THE WORLD, ALL THE EARTH,
and ALL PEOPLES that GOD DESCRIBED FROM THE BEGINNING, into a few
thousand years, of a few groups of people, in a young corner of the globe.

Unlike all of you, I'm not invested in selling any belief, but simply in living
by my faith in the faithfulness of The Creator God, and part of that is freely
sharing the long hidden things God keeps revealing as he promised.

Thing being revealed, that make clear sense of what your 'experts' couldn't
even begin to 'interpret' 1000, 100, 50 or even 5 years ago, like that there
was only one land mass, that long after Noah started dividing, and that there
was life on earth before oxygen formed, and the 'prince of the air', death
began his rule, AS GOD DESCRIBED.

Anyway, for anyone who does care, context needs time and place,
just as understanding time and place, needs context, so maybe
starting with some contextually different meanings of that word:
TIME
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=time&t=KJV
time 3117
time 4150
time 6256
time 8145
time 6471
time 227

then maybe working through the different meanings of the 'same' numbers,
and so on, through all Holy Scripture, you'll come to understand why the
'out of Egypt' lie, is so important to 'them', that it's the one thing 'they'
all agree to agree on, and demand the world accepts.
Sounds of the sea
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Why the US Navy doesn't want us listening to the ocean deep
16 January 2012
Last updated at 17:21 GMT

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Sounds of the sea:
Listening online to the ocean floor


Satellite photos used to be for military eyes
only, but Google Earth changed all that. Now something similar is
happening to the ocean depths, with any web user able to listen in and
"surf the sea floor" - and the US Navy is not happy.


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By Rhitu Chatterjee and Rob Hugh-Jones
PRI's The World

"The cable is going underneath here," says Benoit
Pirenne, standing at the water's edge on Canada's Vancouver Island.
"It's going out 500 miles (800km) in a big loop in the ocean, coming
back in the same place."


The Vancouver cable connects a network of scientific
instruments on the floor of the north Pacific, some as deep as 1.5 miles
(2.5km).


Set up by Pirenne and his colleagues at the University of
Victoria, and called Neptune Canada, they continuously monitor the
marine environment.


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Ocean floor listening posts in the north Pacific off Vancouver Island


The scientists are harvesting large amounts of information,
including water pressure readings that help them better understand the
movement of tsunamis through oceans, which they hope will lead to more
accurate warning systems.


But they are also listening.

Pressure-sensitive microphones pick up the live sounds of
everything from whales and shipping to seismic activity and the movement
of tectonic plates, and this audio is shared with scientists all over
the world.


It's also now available to anyone else with an internet connection.

Ocean 'ears'

"This is like big ears placed on the bottom of the ocean,"
says Michel Andre, a bioacoustics expert at the Technical University of
Catalonia in Barcelona, as he listens to the audio being streamed live
from Vancouver.


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Many locations marked on listentothedeep.com stream audio in real time


Andre's passion is the study of noise in the ocean, both
natural and man-made, and how it affects marine life including whales
and dolphins.


"Sound travels five times faster through water than through
air, and in the ocean it can travel for thousands of miles," he says.


To help the non-scientific community appreciate just how noisy the oceans have become, he's launched a website called listentothedeep.com which streams the live sounds from Vancouver, and 14 other ocean floor "observatories" around the world.

"Here you can hear the noise coming from a ship," says Andre as he clicks on a green dot in the Mediterranean.

The ship is on the surface of the sea, but its monotonous
engine sound eerily dominates the soundscape more than a mile below.


Software developed by Andre's team can identify a range of different sounds.

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A graphic representation of the sound of the Japanese earthquake, 11 March 2011


"These coloured bars here represent the sound of sperm whales," he says.

"And if you click here, in the sound library, this is the noise of the Japanese earthquake."

An audio graph of bright orange shows the pattern of the
earthquake sound, which came from the Kushiro and Hatsushima
observatories off the coast of Japan, in March last year.


On Andre's site, the sound has been sped up to make it
audible to the human ear. It's a growing deep rumble, and a chilling
experience for anyone who followed the news of the devastating tsunami
that struck the Japanese mainland.


National security

For decades, the sounds of the deep sea were considered highly sensitive military data.

During the Cold War, the US Navy set up a network of
underwater microphones in many parts of the world to track Soviet
submarines.


Now the US Navy says it's not too concerned about friendly
civilian scientists listening in, but it is nervous about the opening up
of real time ocean sound to the general public.


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A spider crab investigates monitoring equipment on the Pacific floor


"It's a region where we have naval operations," says US Navy
oceanographer Robert Winokur, referring to the area off Vancouver
monitored by the scientists from Neptune Canada.


Beneath the surface

  • Leonardo Da Vinci noted in 1490 that sounds carry long distances under water - whale songs can travel thousands of miles
  • Sound travels about five times faster in water than in air, and is generally faster at greater depths
  • Marine mammals depend on sound for communication because sight
    and smell are less effective under water - scientists fear that shipping
    noise harms whales, porpoises and dolphins

  • Fish also hear sounds within a limited frequency range, and produce sound with their swim bladders and teeth
Allowing everyone to listen to
that part of the ocean poses a threat to US national security, he says,
because someone - he won't say who - might use that information to work
out the type and location of US naval vessels.


To reduce that threat, the US and Canadian navies have struck
a deal with the scientists that effectively allows them to censor the
sound of naval operations.


"Rather than it being sent to the internet in real time, we
divert it to a naval facility where the data are screened, and then
returned as soon as possible to the University of Victoria," says
Winokur.


In other words, the sound is scrubbed to remove the noise of naval vessels.

Widening the net


The US Navy says it hopes to work out similar arrangements with other ocean monitoring projects elsewhere in the world.

But Cornell University ocean acoustics expert Christopher Clark doubts it will succeed.

"The strategy they're using with Neptune (the Vancouver project) is a dead end," he says.

Clark insists the US Navy doesn't own the ocean acoustic
environment and should accept that what was once military technology is
now in the hands of civilians.


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A rattail fish swims past monitoring equipment in the Pacific


"The cat's out of the bag, the horses are out of the barn,
whatever the metaphor is, it's happening,"
he says.


The number of observatories on Michel Andre's website is
growing. The site currently links to listening networks only in the
northern hemisphere.


Soon 11 more will be added, connecting to microphones in the South Pacific, South Atlantic and the southern Indian Ocean.

That will open up an even larger swathe of the ocean deep to our ears.

Listen to more on this story at PRI's The World, a co-production of the BBC World Service, Public Radio International, and WGBH in Boston.

Picture credits: SPL, Reuters, Neptune Canada
_________________________________________________________

That's the second of 4,
BBC News, "Features and Analysis".
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'Unrestricted warfare'
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How Chinese military advances challenge the US

18 January 2012
Last updated at 00:30 GMT

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How China is advancing its military reach

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the US shifts its focus to Asia, Alexander Neill, head of the Asia
Security Programme at the Royal United Services Institute, sets out the
Chinese military advances challenging the regional balance.


At the Pentagon recently, US President Barack Obama announced
deep cuts to the US military and set out a shift in attention towards
the Asia-Pacific region, in a thinly-veiled message to China.


Despite a narrative of peaceful intent, China's leaders have
struggled to reassure the US over the direction of the People's
Liberation Army (PLA). Both countries admit that their military
dialogue falls well behind other aspects of the relationship.


So the shift has brought renewed scrutiny of the PLA's latest capabilities against US dominance in the Pacific.

In recent years the PLA has demonstrated impressive new
capabilities at sea and in space, aimed at showcasing the success of its
modernisation effort.


The obvious message is to deliver a powerful warning if Taiwan were to declare formal independence.

But Pentagon planners are now concerned that the Taiwan
contingency has been eclipsed by China's broader maritime territorial
claims and demands for more international space to protect the arteries
feeding China's growth.


'Unrestricted warfare'


China is developing a range of capabilities linked to the
space and cyber domain in order to sidestep the overwhelming might of
the US military in the Pacific region. The PLA calls this fighting
"local wars under informationised conditions".


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China took the first step towards a space station when it launched the Tiangong 1 module


China recognised almost two decades ago that in the mid-term
the PLA could be no match for US conventional forces. So it began
working on what was dubbed "unrestricted warfare" - combining multiple
methods to defeat a superior opponent.


At the same time party leaders launched adventurous civilian
acquisition projects in the high-tech domain to increase Chinese
competitiveness and to boost indigenous production capabilities.


The PLA has been running military projects mirroring these
civilian acquisition ventures. Sometimes involving dual-use
technologies, the military and civilian strands have often been
indistinguishable.


China's space programme is a case in point. The recent
successful docking manoeuvre between a Shenzhou module and the Tiangong
Space station is as much a triumph for the PLA as it is for China's
civilian space agency.


Space theatre

Should the US ever intervene in a cross-strait clash or
challenge China's maritime claims, Beijing would employ a pre-emptive
"sea denial" strategy alongside its conventional operations - preventing
US battle carrier groups operating in or near its claimed territorial
waters.


Its submarine-launched ballistic and cruise missiles are now a
lethal force. China's long-range nuclear weapons systems have also
undergone significant upgrades and its strategic rocket force, the
Second Artillery Corps, is very much the pride of the PLA.


One of the most pressing concerns for the US navy is the
threat posed by a "carrier killer" anti-ship missile with enhanced
targeting capabilities facilitated from space. China very recently
launched its own Beidou Positioning System, challenging the monopoly of
the US Global Positioning System (GPS).


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One of the PLA's most sensitive advances has been the secret
deployment and testing of advanced anti-satellite (ASAT) and Anti
Ballistic Missile (ABM) weapons systems.


Two years ago, China successfully intercepted one of its own
ballistic missiles as it streaked through space. This test coincided
with the Pentagon's sale of Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) Patriot
systems to Taiwan.


Some experts believe a Chinese ASAT campaign against a
careful selected group of US satellites could have catastrophic effect
on the US military.


This capability, combined with the potential for China to
develop its own Ballistic Missile Defence umbrella, suggests that the
space domain will be a new theatre for US-China rivalry.


Chinese ASAT capabilities are not exclusively reserved for
"kill vehicles", like the one which obliterated an ageing Chinese
weather satellite in 2007.


It is now believed that the successful 2007 "kill" was in
fact the third test in a series. Previous tests had demonstrated an
ability to manoeuvre in proximity to targeted satellites.


This would suggest that China has experimented with
techniques which could be used for "space mining", where mines or
mini-satellites armed with jamming technologies could be placed within
the orbits of an opponent's spacecraft.


Carrier group

In addition to its "sea denial" and space warfare strategies, China is also expanding its conventional capabilities.

The PLA Air Force in recent years has extended its ability
for offshore operations, enhancing an offensive capability. It is
planning an overhaul of its ageing fleet with the deployment of over
3,000 new aircraft.


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China first aircraft carrier began sea trials in 2011


For the most part China has relied on copying Russian fighter
technology. However, the roll-out of the Chengdu J-20 Stealth fighter
prototype raised eyebrows last year, carefully timed to coincide with a
visit by the US defence secretary.


There have been some very significant developments in the
deployment of Chinese submarines in recent years. Beijing possesses 10
Russian-built ultra-quiet Kilo class submarines possibly armed with
200km-range anti-ship cruise missiles.


Since 2006, when a Chinese submarine surfaced undetected
within torpedo range of the US aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk, China's
submarine force has regularly marauded the US Navy and its allies in the
Pacific.


It is thought that China plans to build three aircraft
carrier battle groups, each armed with 40 fighters, up to eight
warships, three nuclear-powered attack submarines and a number of
support vessels. The PLA Navy's retrofitted Varyag carrier, currently
under sea-trials, will serve as a training platform.


Even if the aircraft carrier would likely be a prestige piece
and more directed at Chinese domestic pride, the prospect of a Chinese
aircraft carrier will certainly cause ripples for the broader East Asian
naval balance.


Uncertain factors

While much attention has been paid to the breakneck speed of
Chinese military modernisation over the last decade, the events of 9/11
and the subsequent campaigns in the Middle East and Afghanistan provided
a window of opportunity for China to accelerate development.


In some cases there may have been, quite literally, windfalls
for the PLA. There is speculation that China acquired undamaged
Tomohawk cruise missile components in the early stages of the
Afghanistan campaign a decade ago.


When US Special Forces failed to completely destroy one of
their stealth helicopters during Operation Geronimo, Pakistan's military
may have allowed PLA counterparts to inspect the tail rotor.


The PLA must be congratulating itself on the impressive array
of weaponry which has tilted the balance in the Taiwan Strait in its
favour.


China's new-found capabilities combined with the opaque
nature of its military modernisation create a formula for mistrust with
the US.


There are perhaps three factors for uncertainty. Firstly, the
Chinese military's confidence in its new equipment could lead to an
overestimation of its capability as an emerging great power.


Secondly, the Chinese leadership could underestimate its
ability to control an unexpected escalation of hostilities in the
Pacific.


Finally, the domestic political factor - the PLA's external
behaviour could become a reaction to internal nationalistic sentiment,
instability or faction fighting as Beijing prepares for the fifth
generation leadership handover this year.
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As "tintin" loves to go on about
countries being shaped like other countries and things:
note;
Australia's Happy Face,
in the Australian Government Antarctic Site Image;
(and the large area of Antarctic territory owns Very Happy Wink );

the image used by the BBC,

Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth,
where the drilling is being carried out,
is in the West of Antarctica.

and the BBC image of,
China's range of anti-ship ballistic missiles.

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God exists, and keeps all His promises.
Easy to see and understand when one reads what He described,
of, and from, The Beginning.
Bless God. Bless His House. Bless all who serve Him.
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Post  true lilly Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:29 pm

Psalms 72:
http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/ps/chapter_072.htm
Psalms 72:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=72&v=1&t=KJV#1
Regarding Solomon.
[[A Psalm] for Solomon 8010.]]
1
O God, give your own judicial decisions to the king,
And your righteousness to the son of the king.

Give 5414 the king 4428 thy judgments 4941, O God 430,
and thy righteousness 6666 unto the king's 4428 son 1121.


2
May he plead the cause of your people with righteousness
And of your afflicted ones with judicial decision.

He shall judge 1777 thy people 5971 with righteousness 6664,
and thy poor 6041 with judgment 4941.


3
Let the mountains carry peace to the people,
Also the hills, through righteousness.

The mountains 2022 shall bring 5375 peace 7965 to the people 5971,
and the little hills 1389, by righteousness 6666.


4
Let him judge the afflicted ones of the people,
Let him save the sons of the poor one,
And let him crush the defrauder.

He shall judge 8199 the poor 6041 of the people 5971,
he shall save 3467 the children 1121 of the needy 34,
and shall break in pieces 1792 the oppressor 6231 .


5
They will fear you as long as there is a sun,
And before the moon for generation after generation.

They shall fear 3372 thee as long as 5973 the sun 8121
and moon 3394 endure 6440, throughout all 1755 generations 1755.

6
He will descend like the rain upon the mown grass,
Like copious showers that wet the earth.

He shall come down 3381 like rain 4306 upon the mown 1488 grass:
as showers 7241 [that] water 2222 the earth 776.

7
In his days the righteous one will sprout,
And the abundance of peace until the moon is no more.

In his days 3117 shall the righteous 6662 flourish 6524 ;
and abundance 7230 of peace 7965 so long as the moon 3394 endureth.

8
And he will have subjects from sea to sea
And from the River to the ends of the earth.

He shall have dominion 7287 also from sea 3220 to sea 3220,
and from the river 5104 unto the ends 657 of the earth 776.


9
Before him the inhabitants of waterless regions will bow down,
And his very enemies will lick the dust itself.

They that dwell in the wilderness 6728 shall bow 3766 before 6440 him;
and his enemies 341 shall lick 3897 the dust 6083.


10
The kings of Tar´shish and of the islands—
Tribute they will pay.
The kings of She´ba and of Se´ba—
A gift they will present.

The kings 4428 of Tarshish 8659 and of the isles 339
shall bring 7725 presents 4503:
the kings 4428 of Sheba 7614 and Seba 5434
shall offer 7126 gifts 814.


11
And to him all the kings will prostrate themselves;
All the nations, for their part, will serve him.

Yea, all kings 4428 shall fall down 7812 before him:
all nations 1471 shall serve 5647 him.


12
For he will deliver the poor one crying for help,
Also the afflicted one and whoever has no helper.

For he shall deliver 5337 the needy 34 when he crieth 7768 ;
the poor 6041 also, and [him] that hath no helper 5826 .


13
He will feel sorry for the lowly one and the poor one,
And the souls of the poor ones he will save.

He shall spare 2347 the poor 1800 and needy 34,
and shall save 3467 the souls 5315 of the needy 34.

14
From oppression and from violence he will redeem their soul,
And their blood will be precious in his eyes.

He shall redeem 1350 their soul 5315 from deceit 8496 and violence 2555:
and precious 3365 shall their blood 1818 be in his sight 5869.


15
And let him live, and to him let some of the gold of She´ba be given.
And in his behalf let prayer be made constantly;
All day long let him be blessed.

And he shall live 2421 , and to him shall be given 5414 of the gold 2091 of Sheba 7614:
prayer also shall be made 6419 for him continually 8548;
[and] daily 3117 shall he be praised 1288 .


16
There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth;
On the top of the mountains there will be an overflow.
His fruit will be as in Leb´a·non,
And those who are from the city will blossom like the vegetation of the earth.

There shall be an handful 6451 of corn 1250 in the earth 776
upon the top 7218 of the mountains 2022;
the fruit 6529 thereof shall shake 7493 like Lebanon 3844:
and [they] of the city 5892 shall flourish 6692 like grass 6212 of the earth 776.


17
Let his name prove to be to time indefinite;
Before the sun let his name have increase,
And by means of him let them bless themselves;
Let all nations pronounce him happy.

His name 8034 shall endure for ever 5769:
his name 8034 shall be continued 5125 5125 as long as 6440 the sun 8121:
and [men] shall be blessed 1288 in him:
all nations 1471 shall call him blessed 833 .


18
Blessed be Jehovah God, Israel’s God,
Who alone is doing wonderful works.

Blessed 1288 [be] the LORD 3068 God 430, the God 430 of Israel 3478,
who only doeth 6213 wondrous things 6381 .


19
And blessed be his glorious name to time indefinite,
And let his glory fill the whole earth.
Amen and Amen.

And blessed 1288 [be] his glorious 3519 name 8034 for ever 5769:
and let the whole earth 776 be filled 4390 [with] his glory 3519;
Amen 543, and Amen 543.


20
The prayers of David, the son of Jes´se, have come to their end.

The prayers 8605 of David 1732 the son 1121 of Jesse 3448 are ended 3615 .
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Post  true lilly Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Anyway, back to that "time, times and half a time" thing

that preaching, The 'out of Egypt' Apostasy, attempts to

hide, even from 'the very elect', whom 'they' can't deceive.




Oz=O'Zion, Antarctica=Lebanon, AS GOD DESCRIBE OF and

From The Beginning, so that we could also SEE ALL HIS

WARNINGS and PROMISES, right to 'the end', BEING FULFILLED.




2 KINGS 19:


23-

I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.


24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.



(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)





http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ki&c=19&v=1&t=KJV#1

1
And it came about that as soon as King Hez·e·ki´ah
heard, he immediately ripped his garments apart and covered himself
with sackcloth and came into the house of Jehovah. 2
Further, he sent E·li´a·kim, who was over the
household, and Sheb´nah the secretary and the older men of the priests
covered with sackcloth to Isaiah the prophet the son of A´moz. 3
And they proceeded to say to him: “This is what
Hez·e·ki´ah has said, ‘This day is a day of distress and of rebuke and
of scornful insolence; for the sons have come as far as the womb’s
mouth, and there is no power to give birth. 4
Perhaps Jehovah your God will hear all the words
of Rab´sha·keh, whom the king of As·syr´i·a his lord sent to taunt the
living God, and he will actually call him to account for the words that
Jehovah your God has heard. And you must lift up prayer in behalf of the
remnant that are to be found.’”





5
So the servants of King Hez·e·ki´ah came in to Isaiah. 6
Then Isaiah said to them: “This is what YOU should say to YOUR
lord, ‘This is what Jehovah has said: “Do not be afraid because of the
words that you have heard with which the attendants of the king of
As·syr´i·a spoke abusively of me. 7
Here I am putting a spirit in him, and he must
hear a report and return to his own land; and I shall certainly cause
him to fall by the sword in his own land.”’”





8
After that Rab´sha·keh returned and found the king
of As·syr´i·a fighting against Lib´nah; for he had heard that he had
pulled away from La´chish. 9
He heard it said respecting Tir·ha´kah the king of
E·thi·o´pi·a: “Here he has come out to fight against you.” Therefore he
sent messengers again to Hez·e·ki´ah, saying: 10
“This is what YOU men
should say to Hez·e·ki´ah the king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in
whom you are trusting deceive you, saying: “Jerusalem will not be given
into the hand of the king of As·syr´i·a.” 11
Look! You yourself have heard what the kings of
As·syr´i·a did to all the lands by devoting them to destruction; and
will you yourself be delivered? 12
Have the gods of the nations that my forefathers
brought to ruin delivered them, even Go´zan and Ha´ran and Re´zeph and
the sons of E´den that were in Tel-as´sar? 13
Where is he—the king of Ha´math and the king of Ar´pad and the king of the cities of Seph·ar·va´im, He´na and Iv´vah?’”





14
Then Hez·e·ki´ah took the letters out of the hand
of the messengers and read them, after which Hez·e·ki´ah went up to the
house of Jehovah and spread it out before Jehovah. 15
And Hez·e·ki´ah began to pray before Jehovah and
say: “O Jehovah the God of Israel, sitting upon the cherubs, you alone
are the [true] God of all the kingdoms of the earth. You yourself have
made the heavens and the earth. 16
Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear. Open your
eyes, O Jehovah, and see, and hear the words of Sen·nach´er·ib that he
has sent to taunt the living God. 17
It is a fact, O Jehovah, the kings of As·syr´i·a have devastated the nations and their land. 18
And they have consigned their gods to the fire,
because they were no gods, but the workmanship of man’s hands, wood and
stone; so that they destroyed them. 19
And now, O Jehovah our God, save us, please, out
of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, O
Jehovah, are God alone.”





20
And Isaiah the son of A´moz proceeded to send to
Hez·e·ki´ah, saying: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said,
‘The prayer that you have made to me concerning Sen·nach´er·ib the king
of As·syr´i·a I have heard. 21
This is the word that Jehovah has spoken against him:






“The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you, she has held you in derision.
Behind you the daughter of Jerusalem has wagged her head.





22
Whom have you taunted and spoken of abusively?
And against whom have you lifted up your voice
And do you raise your eyes on high?
It is against the Holy One of Israel!





23
By means of your messengers you have taunted Jehovah and you say,
‘With the multitude of my war chariots I myself—
I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.





24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.


(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)




25
Have you not heard? From remote times it is what I will do.
From bygone days I have even formed it.
Now I will bring it in.
And you will serve to make fortified cities desolate as piles of ruins.





26
And their inhabitants will be feeble-handed;
They will simply be terrified and will be ashamed.
They must become as vegetation of the field and green tender grass,
Grass of the roofs, when there is a scorching before the east wind.





27
And your sitting quiet and your going out and your coming in I well know,
And your exciting yourself against me,





28
Because your exciting yourself against me and your roaring have come up into my ears.
And I shall certainly put my hook in your nose and my bridle between your lips,
And I shall indeed lead you back by the way by which you have come.”





29
“‘And this will be the sign for you: There will
be an eating this year of the growth from spilled kernels, and in the
second year grain that shoots up of itself; but in the third year sow
seed, you people, and reap and plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. 30
And those who escape of the house of Judah, those who are left, will certainly take root downward and produce fruitage upward. 31
For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and
those who escape from Mount Zion. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies
will do this.





32
“‘That is why this is what Jehovah has said
concerning the king of As·syr´i·a: “He will not come into this city nor
will he shoot an arrow there nor confront it with a shield nor cast up a
siege rampart against it. 33
By the way by which he proceeded to come, he will return, and into this city he will not come, is the utterance of Jehovah. 34
And I shall certainly defend this city to save it for my own sake and for the sake of David my servant.”’”





35
And it came about on that night that the angel of
Jehovah proceeded to go out and strike down a hundred and eighty-five
thousand in the camp of the As·syr´i·ans. When people rose up early in
the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses. 36
Therefore Sen·nach´er·ib the king of As·syr´i·a pulled away and went and returned, and he took up dwelling in Nin´e·veh. 37
And it came about that as he was bowing down at
the house of Nis´roch his god, A·dram´me·lech and Shar·e´zer, his sons,
themselves struck him down with the sword, and they themselves escaped
to the land of Ar´a·rat. And E´sar-had´don his son began to reign in
place of him.
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Post  Billy Ruben Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:47 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:So, how many have kept count of all the times
"Billy Ruben", just has to jump in and attack me
for posting GOOD NEWS of CHILD PORN RINGS
GETTING BUSTED?

How many have figured out what that SAYS ABOUT
"Billy Ruben"?

Particularly as "Billy Ruben" GETS EXTRA ANGRY
when baby fuckers ARE ALSO LINKED TO, 'respected'
positions, like say, THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY.

Speaking of which, how many have noticed that
"Billy Ruben" can't even get my husband's TRADE
OR NAME right, in his desperate efforts to SPIN BS
out of what I actually post?

Makes one wonder WHY "Billy Ruben" is NOT so keen
to 'defend', THE ACTUAL PERSON, but rather, DEFENDS
THE ACTUAL PERSON, BY TRYING TO IMPLICATE OTHERS.

Interesting to how "Billy Ruben" threatens me with
State and Federal Police for posting MAIN STREAM NEWS
AND ASKING WHY Police have NOT come for that pc
that someone loaded CHILD PORN on, WHILE I WAS
SLEEPING (Not alone), AT THE OTHER END of THE HOUSE.

Seems "Billy Ruben" NEEDS the world to believe that
the ONLY CORRUPT Police, are those "Billy Ruben"
'claims' to be 'fighting', NOT THOSE PROTECTING
CHILD PORN PEDDLERS, and REFUSING TO PROTECT
THEIR VICTIMS.


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No you lying dog-rooting slut.And you know it.You play the game of insinuating I have involvement in filth peddling and drug and gun runningYou know the truth of your own lies and I have exposed everyone of them.Noticed you did'nt get phone texts like you saidAnd those recent,that I save,so when you falsely accuse,I can prove otherwise.You only just got that Blue-tooth connection and I have'nt bit for months.Stupid fuck you are,you give the game away before it gets on the way.Come on,prove otherwise.

You hate the fact I report those cops,cause I supply EVIDENCE,something you always failed to do and now we know why,Ballarat Police refuted every claim you've made.You're not even on their records,idiot.

And that's why I think you're obsesse3d with child-molesting,WHY?

Told you,I put money on it,you did fuck your dog on that breeder farm as a young teenage curious whore that you were,turned to God and tried transference,hoping it's all forgotten and forgiven

The only person you can't hide it from is yourself.That's why I keep reminding.And I have credibilty,something you lost in your battles with me,hehehehehe,I have trade,you're bankrupt.Who cares what you say and think.But involve me or those I love,I'll have you,anytime.

You've had your warning,hope they confiscate your computer,that was one of the reasons I'm going to do it.Forget hiding it you stupid bitch,every component has it's own signature.They can tell when you substituteThere's things the authorities can do,that even most crackers have no idea about,have a nice life creep.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:'Billy Ruben' says 'he's' in hiding.
Should I post all the Ph. No's 'he' threatens me by?
Or just the numbers of those who first Blutoothed my phone,
and also boasted of having friends in the police that access
phone use details for them?

Well, if something were to happen to a real person who's
identity 'they' use, after 'Billy Ruben/Jason Cook' texted me
where he "is hiding from Occultists", I think authorities should
get straight onto 'them', rather than waste time harassing me,
'their' actual, intended victim.

Lets face it; the only reason 'they' have for sending me such
a message, would be to try to set me up for harm done to
some mentally ill person 'they' use as 'their' cover for the
self serving evils 'they' do.


What a load of shit!!!!.

No harm will come to your crazy little head,no matter how much you push.You're ridiculous and insane.I'd stick around to argue,but seeing as you spammed your own thread with off-topic,non-related bullshit,I shall leave again.

Oh,I support the fat redneck making and flying Swastika flags.No harm done at all...it's how I feel and what I see,when this flag flies proud.[/img]



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thumbs up lmao lol! rolf popcorn
Billy Ruben wrote: rolf rolf rolf rolf

...Now that's a very interesting post about psychological transference.

If I remember correctly,I did a thread about you,where you admit you have child porn on on your computer and blamed three differing parties.

You admitted you have it...and blamed others.Now,how do your inconsistencies would look before a jury,Eh?

Not to good for you,you mad silly cow.Those scrubbers in gaol will absolutely rip you to pieces the very first night.Enjoy getting fist-anal babe,because if I prove you still got it,I'll be mercilous with you and condemn you to the lowest realms,where that decrepid soul of yours came from

Try Me,Suzanne Ryan of Ballarat/Wendouree...just fucking try me.

Filth peddler.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1665-true-lilly-confesses-to-having-child-porn-on-her-pc
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Billy Ruben wrote:You're filth Suzy Ryan.

Remember the sequence of threats I told you months ago,it's already started.

Your thread,The Lying Conspiracy,...rant roomed.

Next,back to the Mental Health Authorities with a proper prepared proposal.

Next,The Federal Police Of Australia.

Then,and the best of all...Interpol.

So keep pushing little Missy and I will enact my threats and have you good,where I want you,M'Kay?

There's a good girl,back to knowing exactly where you stand moron.One more flicker of shit from you,you're gone.

What you only wish,fantasize and beg God for,I'll pull off.I've been offered a very special rank amongst the satanist,it's tempting,but know how it corrupts.I'd only join to wipe the floor with arseholes like you.But the best of intentions with those kind of energies,would only consume me.

On bending knee bitch,beg,that my wisdom holds up...this time around.


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Hey Icke!!!!! yeah you..... noway ......who do you think you're bullshittin? some mental midget shit 4 brainz?.

Icke is a deluded and dangerous demagogue..........
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. H. L. Mencken

He is David Icke New Age Neo Nazi Guru hatemongering, fearmongering liar.

He claims he is not antisemitic, then he goes on to lie and demonize the Jews and Israel.......who is he kidding besides himself? The useful idiots that hang on everyone of his words?
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/political-manipulation-mainmenu-72/42734-they-dare-not-speak-its-name-rothschild-zionism



David Icke Myth: Rothschild Zionism in its public expression is a political ideology based on a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine and a belief that the Jews are God's 'chosen race' with a God-given right to the 'promised land' of Israel (historically this is nonsense, as I show in my books)


The only thing he has shown in his books is he is an antisemitic gullible fool....... lmao
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFindex.html
MYTH
“The Jews have no claim to the land they call Israel.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFroots.html#1

A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, the Jews suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

The Jewish people base their claim to the Land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 2) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people; 3) the territory was captured in defensive wars and 4) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham.


David Icke Myth: They have sought to sell the 'Zionism-means-all-Jewish-people' lie so that they can condemn as 'anti-Semites' and 'racists' anyone who exposes the truth about Rothschild Zionism and its agents in government, banking, business, media, military etc.

Read this daveyboy:
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/Against_Zionists_not_Jews.htm

http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/

Zionism is the national self determination movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is the belief in a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people, in Israel. Zionism is the Jewish people's instantiation of the human right of self determination. 99% of Jews are supportive of the existance of the Jewish state - that makes them Zionists..............In summary
Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please.
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Hey davey, this is pure 100% unadulterated bullshit......that makes you a lying sack of shit.

David Icke Myth:The world's most extreme racists are, after all, the Rothschild Zionists, anyway. Israel is an apartheid state every bit as much as were apartheid South Africa and apartheid America.

The Facts

Comparison of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict with Apartheid South AfricaThese days it is becoming very popular to compare the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with apartheid South Africa prior to 1994. It is an odious comparison wreaked with many half-truths and clichés. Both situations are so different that when one examines the situation one can note major differences. The idea of using this comparison is to delegitimize Israel's right to exist within secure and recognized borders and to justify the Palestinian methods of terror in order to destroy Israel.


In apartheid South Africa prior to 1994 before the first democratic elections in South Africa 's history, there was this odious apartheid system. Its main purpose was to maintain white minority rule at all costs and to keep the black majority disenfranchised and without basic human rights. These blacks were a reservoir of cheap labour to operate the white economy and to ensure white prosperity at their expense. Blacks had suffered immense injustice under this system. White South African Government spending on black education and their general community welfare was minimal. The gap between the black situation then and slavery was not very large.

Social intercourse between whites and blacks in those days was a relationship between the white master and the black, underpaid servant. The situation for non-white people was intolerable and even cruel. It was against the law for Blacks to travel freely in the country of their birth except if they had a pass (dompas) from the white authorities. After 9.00 p.m., there was a curfew and blacks were forbidden in the streets after that dreaded hour in many towns. These people were not terrorists. They were not people who threatened the whites in any way. Denial of their basic human rights was commonplace. There was the dreaded Immorality Act, which prevented mixed marriages and sex beyond the colour bar. Those who contravened the law were imprisoned. There were separate public facilities for blacks and whites. Laws forbade blacks to eat in white restaurants. Separate transport facilities, which resulted in overcrowded conditions in buses and trains, were part of this evil, cruel system. It was common to see police officers abusing and ill treating blacks for not having their pass (identity or reference book) on their person when being searched. The police pushed them into the back of the police van, and drove them to the police station where they spent a night in the lock up cell. Usually their white employers bailed out these unfortunate persons when they produced a permit that they were in his employ legally. Blacks could not purchase property in white areas, as this was a contravention of the notorious Group Areas Act.

Anybody who opposed the apartheid system in those days – especially if he was black – was accused of being an agitator or communist. The police arrested him for 90 days without trial or recourse to a lawyer. This was increased later to 180 days detention and the police officer even had the power to keep a person imprisoned indefinitely without trial. These incidents occurred during the period of 1950 – 1990. Apartheid was at its zenith in those years. It was illegal to criticise the white government for its apartheid practices. There was limited criticism in those days by white opposition parties in parliament. However, the law controlled the limit of legal criticism. The abuse of prisoners for obtaining information was legal and encouraged. The police tortured the famous black leader, Steve Biko, to death when he was in prison for "anti-apartheid crimes" in 1977.

The majority of South African citizens was against apartheid and wanted to be part of a multi racial South Africa . The leaders of the liberation movements never spoke of destroying the white man and denying him rights in South Africa. Their fight was a justified fight for freedom and human rights as well as equality before the law.

If one were to contrast that with the situation in the Middle East, it is different. Israel 's Arab neighbours threatened her from the day of her establishment in 1948. There was never a desire to recognise Israel 's right to exist. What has this to do with South African style apartheid? Where is the comparison?

The blacks in their liberation struggle never targeted innocent people by suicide bombings or terror. There were sporadic incidents by some black extremists, but the mainstream liberation movements in South Africa went underground. Their leaders, who were living in exile, condemned this violence.

Perhaps, there may be a vague parallel of apartheid in the occupied territories since June 1967. The occupation is a complex problem that is the result of a war foisted onto Israel . Israel, being militarily superior, occupied territory in the Six Day War of June 1967 and made the fatal mistake of encouraging Jewish settlements there when it was obvious that there was no Arab partner who was willing to sign a peace treaty insuring the return of occupied territory as part of an overall peace agreement. The occupation and rule of the Palestinians is a tragic result of the wars that Israel fought for her survival/

However, had there been a willing partner on the Arab side who would come to terms with Israel's existence the seemingly "apartheid-like" situation would not have occurred. Israel never wished to conquer another people. This is contrary to the apartheid South African situation whereby the whites ruled and oppressed the blacks by force. They denied them their basic human rights. The intifida of 2000 resulted in a heavy spate of suicide violence against innocent Israelis, which resulted in heavy Israeli Army retaliation against armed Palestinian terrorists. The Palestinian terrorist groups had declared war on Israel and in a war; innocent people on both sides die and suffer.

The difference is that in South Africa both Whites and Blacks realized that their fate is dependent on one another. Both realised the importance of sitting down and negotiating a transitional period to end apartheid. Both sides were determined to rebuild the new democratic, multiracial South Africa . This feeling of mutual desire to end the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is lacking. The Palestinians have embarked on the road of terror and suicide bombings.

This is their chosen path. It differs from the path that the freedom fighters in South Africa chose. Here there is no desire to come to terms with Israel 's existence that was always a "thorn" in Palestinian flesh. Hamas and Islamic Jihad have made this perfectly clear to the world. Their manifesto is no example in building an alternative democratic Palestinian society in a state replacing Israel.

Is there not a similarity to Nazism in the Hamas manifesto? Many Palestinian observers in the UN Security council accuse Israel of genocide. Is the Hamas Manifesto not promoting genocide of the Jewish People? Compare this to the ideals of those who opposed and fought the cruel racist regime of White South Africa during those evil, apartheid years. Their fight was a fight to attain equality for all South Africans irrespective of their skin colour. This is not the case in the Israel-Palestinian dispute. Here there is no desire in Palestinian street, as represented by Hamas and company, to come to terms with Israel's existence – let alone negotiate a peace treaty, which would eventually lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel . Genocide is more part of the lexicon of the Palestinian terrorist groups than in Israel . Perhaps from this point of view, there is a similarity between the Palestinians and the dominating whites of apartheid South Africa . Both peoples oppressed their citizens and denied them basic human rights. Both regimes were corrupt and were involved in feathering their own nests.

The similarity of apartheid South Africa to the Palestinian Authority, including their methods of torture of opponents, makes this comparison closer to the truth.
Where are human rights in the Arab countries? Where are woman's rights in Islamic Society? In Saudi Arabia , women are treated like chattels and do not even have the franchise. Why are the human rights organizations not taking any view on that?

Another very big difference between apartheid South Africa and Israel is the fact that there are no separate facilities for Jews and Arabs. Arab Israelis have equal rights and have the right to vote. There is no law preventing social mixing between the two peoples nor are there separate universities for Arabs and Israelis in Israel.

The comparison between Israel and apartheid South Africa shows total ignorance of the situation in both countries. After having been born and educated in apartheid South Africa and having opposed apartheid and racism all my life, I have come to realize how false and stupid this comparison really is. Much still remains to be done in the human rights area for Arab Israelis. There is some social descrimination in the job market and the situation is not as good as it could be. However, it is very far from the apartheid system of White South Africa where draconian laws were well set in place to separate blacks from whites


David Icke Myth: And by that I don't only mean the evil that is inflicted upon the Palestinian people minute-by-minute, day-by-day, but also the extraordinarily racist divisions within Jewish society with the black Jews from Ethiopia, for example, treated as little more than vermin
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html

The Facts
In early 1991, Eritrean and Tigrean rebels began a concerted attack on Mengistu forces, meeting with surprising success for the first time since the civil war began in 1975. With the rebel armies advancing each day, Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam fled his country in early May. Rebels claimed control of the capital Addis Ababa shortly thereafter, and the situation of the Beta Israel took top priority in Israel. The Likud government of Yitzhak Shamir authorized a special permit for the Israeli airline, El Al, to fly on the Jewish Sabbath. On Friday, May 24, and continuing non-stop for 36 hours, a total of 34 El Al jumbo jets and Hercules C-130s—seats removed to accommodate the maximum number of Ethiopians—began a new chapter in the struggle for the freedom of Ethiopian Jewry.

Operation Solomon, named for the king from whom one of the theories suggest that the Beta Israel draw their lineage, ended almost as quickly as it began. Timing was crucial, since any delay by Israel could have allowed the rebels to hold the Jews as bargaining chips with Israel or the United States. A total of 14,324 Ethiopian Jews were rescued and resettled in Israel, a modern exodus of the grandest design. Operation Solomon rescued nearly double the number of Jews as were saved during Operation Moses and Joshua, and it did so in a mere fraction of the time.

More than 36,000 Ethiopian Jews now live in Israel and despite both economic and social hardships, their community has an integral part in Israeli society. In 1999, Avraham Yitzhak became the first Ethiopian immigrant to earn an MD degree from an Israeli medical school. In 2011, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs appointed Rachamim Elazar as Israel's Ambassador to Ethiopia, making him the first Israeli of Ethiopian descent to ever serve as an ambassador for the State of Israel. There are still many problems within the Ethiopian community in Israel - poverty, lack of education, etc - but large strides are being made every day.......................As early as the 16th century, Egypt's Chief Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Avi Zimra (Radbaz) declared that in Halachic (Jewish legal) issues, the Beta Israel were indeed Jews. In 1855, Daniel ben Hamdya, a member of the Beta Israel, was the first Ethiopian Jew to visit Israel, meeting with a council of rabbis in Jerusalem concerning the authenticity of the Beta Israel. By 1864, almost all leading Jewish authorities, most notably Rabbi Azriel Hildsheimer of Eisenstadt, Germany, accepted the Beta Israel as true Jews. In 1908 the chief rabbis of forty-five countries had heeded Rabbi Hildsheimer's call and officially recognized the Beta Israel as fellow Jews.

In reaffirming the Radbaz's position centuries before, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, Israel's Chief Sephardic Rabbi, stated in 1972, “I have come to the conclusion that Falashas are Jews who must be saved from absorption and assimilation. We are obliged to speed up their immigration to Israel and educate them in the spirit of the holy Torah, making them partners in the building of the Holy Land.”

In 1975, Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren wrote to the Beta Israel telling them, “You are our brothers, you are our blood and our flesh. You are true Jews.” Later that same year the Israeli Interministerial Commission officially recognized the Beta Israel as Jews under Israel's Law of Return, a law designed to aid in Jewish immigration to Israel. The Beta Israel were ready to come home.

Indeed, the Beta Israel were strictly observant in pre-Talmudic Jewish traditions. The women went to the mikvah, or ritual bath, just as observant Jewish women do to this day, and they continue to carry out ancient festivals, such as Seged, that have been passed down through the generations of Beta Israel. The Kesim, or religious leaders, are as widely revered and respected as the great rabbis in each community, passing the Jewish customs through storytelling and maintaining the few Jewish books and Torahs some communities were fortunate enough to have written in the liturgical language of Ge'ez.


Jewish Apathy . . .and its Defeat
The struggle to free the Beta Israel was not fought solely against the Ethiopian government. Much like some timid Jewish leaders during the Holocaust, some recent Jews sought to prevent a shanda fur de goyim (an embarrassment in front of the non-Jews) by not stirring up waves over Ethiopian Jewry.

The history of the Beta Israel's rescue is at times open to debate regarding the heroes of the Ethiopian Jewry movement. As with many struggles to free oppressed Jewry around the world, many advocated and vocalized opposition to those responsible for the lack of action on their behalf. Others, however, argued for a more quiet diplomacy, void of the public demonstrations and arrests that marked the struggle for Soviet Jewry.

Though over 8,000 Beta Israel managed to flee to Israel during his tenure, it was an Israeli official in charge of the Ethiopian Jews' absorption who may best symbolize the insensitivity that an extreme minority of people once held. Yehuda Dominitz who served as Director General of the Jewish Agency's Department of Immigration and Absorption, declared in 1980 that, “[taking] a Falasha (sic) out of his village, it's like taking a fish out of water...I'm not in favor of bringing them [to Israel].” Dominitz also refused to allow his agency to rent buses so Ethiopian Jews in Israel could travel to Jerusalem to observe their ancient holiday of Seged (Dominitz eventually relented, but had the buses take the Beta Israel to Haifa instead of Jerusalem).

Malkah Raymist, a writer for the World Zionist Organization, wrote in 1956 in The Jewish Horizon (of the Hapoel Hamizrachi of America Movement) that, “the reasons [for not bringing Ethiopian Jews to Israel] are simple and weighty. On one hand, they are well off where they are, while their development and mental outlook is that of children; they could fall an easy prey of exploitation, if brought here without any preparation. On the other hand, being a backward element, they would be and it would take several years before they could be educated towards a minimum of progressive thinking.”

In an American Association for Ethiopian Jews (AAEJ) press release, the AAEJ quoted its founder, Dr. Graenum Berger, as criticizing those who sought any delay in the rescue of the Beta Israel. Berger declared, “Not when Jews are dying...these revelations show once again that the policy of influencing factions of the government of Israel always have been against the immigration of the Ethiopian Jews. And, the same people who controlled their immigration then are controlling it now. These are the same people who gave instructions to the Israeli Embassy in Ethiopia (1956-1973) not to issue immigration visas to any Jew from Ethiopia.”

Berger himself came under criticism for his outspoken remarks concerning the Israeli efforts to rescue the Beta Israel, showing that nobody was immune from the rhetoric surrounding the issue.



As the facts clearly show: David Icke is an ignorant, lying, fearmongering, hatemongering antisemitic moron............a lying sack of shit.............


MYTH
“Israel is pursuing a policy of genocide toward the Palestinians that is comparable to the Nazis’ treatment of the Jews.” top


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#9

FACT
This is perhaps the most odious claim made by Israel’s detractors. The Nazis’ objective was the systematic extermination of every Jew in Europe. Israel is seeking peace with its Palestinian neighbors. More than one million Arabs live as free and equal citizens in Israel. Of the Palestinians in the territories, 98 percent live under the civil administration of the Palestinian Authority. Israeli policies are designed to protect Israeli citizens—Jews and non-Jews—from the incessant campaign of terror. There has never been a plan to persecute, exterminate, or expel the Palestinian people.

In response to one such comparison, by a poet who referred to the “Zionist SS,” The New Republic’s literary editor Leon Wieseltier observed:

The view that Zionism is Nazism—there is no other way to understand the phrase “Zionist SS”—is not different in kind from the view that the moon is cheese. It is not only spectacularly wrong, it is also spectacularly unintelligent. I will not offend myself (that would be self-hate speech!) by patiently explaining why the State of Israel is unlike the Third Reich, except to say that nothing that has befallen the Palestinians under Israel’s control may responsibly be compared to what befell the Jews under Germany’s control, and that a considerable number of the people who have toiled diligently to find peace and justice for the Palestinians, and a solution to this savage conflict, have been Israeli, some of them even Israeli prime ministers. There is no support for the Palestinian cause this side of decency that can justify the locution “Zionist SS.” 41

The absurdity of the charge is also clear from the demography of the disputed territories. While detractors make outrageous claims about Israel committing genocide or ethnic cleansing, the Palestinian population has continued to grow exponentially. In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,657,155 in 2011, an increase of 127 percent. The growth rate was 3.2 percent, one of the highest in the world. The total Palestinian population in all the disputed territories (they include Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem) was 1,006,000 in 1950, 1,094,000 in 1970, and grew to 3,736,210 in 2011. 42


MYTH
“Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to the treatment of blacks in apartheid South Africa.” top

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#8

FACT
Even before the State of Israel was established, Jewish leaders consciously sought to avoid the situation that prevailed in South Africa. As David Ben-Gurion told Palestinian nationalist Musa Alami in 1934:

We do not want to create a situation like that which exists in South Africa, where the whites are the owners and rulers, and the blacks are the workers. If we do not do all kinds of work, easy and hard, skilled and unskilled, if we become merely landlords, then this will not be our homeland. 36

Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights and are represented in all the branches of government. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court.

Under apartheid, skin color determined every aspect of your life from birth until death. Black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the population. Laws dictated where they could live, work, go to school and travel. And, in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and speech. Some of the government’s harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who are members of the Knesset.


“The difference between the current Israeli situation and apartheid South Africa is emphasized at a very human level: Jewish and Arab babies are born in the same delivery room, with the same facilities, attended by the same doctors and nurses, with the mothers recovering in adjoining beds in a ward. Two years ago I had major surgery in a Jerusalem hospital: the surgeon was Jewish, the anaesthetist was Arab, the doctors and nurses who looked after me were Jews and Arabs. Jews and Arabs share meals in restaurants and travel on the same trains, buses and taxis, and visit each other’s homes.

Could any of this possibly have happened under apartheid? Of course not.”

— Benjamin Pogrund 37


The situation of Palestinians in the territories is different. The security requirements of the nation, and a violent insurrection in the territories, forced Israel to impose restrictions on Arab residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip that are not necessary inside Israel’s pre-1967 borders. Israeli policy is not based on race, but is a result of Palestinian animosity. Palestinians in the territories dispute Israel’s right to exist, whereas blacks did not seek the destruction of South Africa, only the apartheid regime.

If Israel were to give Palestinians full citizenship, it would mean the territories had been annexed. No Israeli government has been prepared to take that step. Instead, through negotiations, Israel agreed to give the Palestinians increasing authority over their own affairs. It is likely that a final settlement will allow most Palestinians to become citizens of their own state. The principal impediment to Palestinian independence is not Israeli policy, it is the unwillingness of the Palestinian leadership to give up terrorism and agree to live in peace beside Israel.

Despite all their criticism, when asked what governments they admire most, more than 80 percent of Palestinians consistently said Israel because they can see up close the thriving democracy in Israel, and the rights the Arab citizens enjoy there. By contrast, Palestinians place Arab regimes, including their own Palestinian Authority, at the bottom. 38


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html

Hey icke!!!!


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David Icke Debunked
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[justify]This is 2.5 hour film from Chris White takes a very close look at
David Icke’s history and beliefs. It reveals the true sources of David
Icke’s theories which are often shocking , and should be very
concerning for a genuine seeker of truth. This is a well rounded
expose which is done respectfully, while still attempting to get the
average truther to reevaluate what they really know about the
“endgame” of the Illuminati.


A few of the things covered are:

His connections to Alice Bailey
His channeling several of Bailey’s specific “Ascended Masters” and
them being his lifelong guides.
The “Solar Logos” and “Galactic Logos”
The Seven Ray theory
The source of his galaxy-god to sun-god spiritual evolution is Bailey
The ghost of Carl Sagan
He supports “elite” worship of the sun
His new moon theory is retelling of his earlier crazy version
His moon theory is from Alice Bailey
The “Earth Spirit” or Gaia is from Alice Bailey
His support of Earth Spirit led Genocide
Atlantis and Lemuria
Hitler similarities include, Atlantis, spiritual evolution, arayans,
- Show quoted text -
the moon, hollow earth, Lemuria, contacting ascended masters, taking
drugs to increase the connection, and more.
Icke denounces Bailey and Lucius trust..and implications for him

Chapter 2
Brian Desborough, who is this guy?
Desborough’s crazy unbelievable story
Desborough is the source for a huge amount of material including the reptilians
Desborough introduces Arizona Wilder to Icke
Arizona “made to learn”
Ivan Fraser connection
Desborough writes “Alice in Wonderland”
Arizona’s “Old Ones” are really behind the NWO
Credo Mutwa
Reptilians on Youtube
Shapshifting according to Svali
Desborough’s new Jesus
Babylon supplied by Desborough
Debunking Babylon
David talks to “Jesus”
David has very conflicting views about the crucifixion
Davids claim to be “The Son of God” (actually his claim was that he IS
the second coming of Christ)
Debunking the Zeitgeist version of Jesus
Quick History
Queen of Heaven
Mother and child statues, Jesus and Mary
Halos
Dagon fish hat (pope)
Michael Talbot
The Holographic Universe
Holonomic Brain Theory
Sai Baba
stigmata
The hypnotist that made the man see through his daughter.

Chapter 3
“The Guys.”
What it is
How he does it
Terrence Mckenna’s advice
Same thing with the 2012 history
Photon Belt
Demons in anthropology
Sumer
Free will
Inspecting David’s testimony for clues
David preaches free will possession
Sleep Paralysis
David loses it in front of a painting
David’s infamous trip to Peru
History of that area of Peru
Ley Lines
Brazil with Ayahuasca
DMT the spirit molecule
The big question about the elves?
We are sitting ducks for the NWO
The REAL plan of the Illuminati.
Spiritual evolution
Promised utopia
ONLY out of the ashes
“Preparations until 2025”
“ Emphasis should be laid on the evolution of humanity.” – Alice Bailey
A deadly utopia for those who wont “evolve”
The paradox solution = The X factor
Alien invasion? intervention?
Religion must die
Saved from the war
The actual plan.
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David Icke is a Neo-Nazi (Part Three): My Shadow, or the "Turd in the Punch Bowl"
I have felt, since first hearing of Mr. Icke, that he was put out there to discredit me specifically. His conspiracist sci-fi confabulations, or "research," tracks my own themes (mind control, political assassinations, fascist globalism, etc.) in a grossly distorted form.

He boosted my writing on the Simpson case whole, for instance, and mixed it up, defiled my research, with "Lizard Aliens." He's a repulsive parody of myself ...

I've attempted to read the capricious, wrong-headed "research" of David "Jesus" Icke, and found it an amateurish omelot of used conspiracy theories concocted by the John Birch Society and other far-right groups to discredit legitimate research on fascism, which is inherently conspiratorial. Most people, dumbed down by "mainstream" media, can't tell the difference, and Icke takes advantage of that fact to peddle stupid, far-right conspiracy theories and "alien" invasions.

Icke - who took up conspiracy writing, c. 1990 - about the time the CIA silenced me with constant harassment, torture and death threats - is tailor-made to cast a pall on my own field, my own work, and he's been doing it for years. - AC

" ... The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ... "

GREENS TO PROTEST DAVID ICKE AT HART HOUSE THEATRE, OCT 6 (fwd)

The Robot's Rebellion is a conspiracy theory which claims a group of aliens and well-connected people, called the 'Illuminati', are manipulating and controlling world events with a view to establishing global domination.

One of Icke's main sources is a notorious document called the `Protocols of the Elders of Zion', which he renames `the Illuminati Protocols'. It states that Jews are trying to take over the world, and was used by the Nazis to justify the genocide of 6 million people. The Waffen SS used to carry copies in their knapsacks.

By using this document Icke denies the word of those historians who have demonstrated, beyond doubt, that the Protocols are a forgery. He also gives credence to those groups who still use the Protocols to justify their anti-Semitism. [end quote]

David Icke did extensive damage to the credibility of the Greens with his anti-Semitic writings and claims to be a son of god. His ongoing attempts to gain credibility for himself from his prior association with our party makes the damage all the more egregious and ongoing.

http://list.digital-copyright.ca/pipermail/action-forum/1999-October/000636.html
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"WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD ~ Articles by David Icke WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD? by David Icke Official history is merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. ... "
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:hRfulkl6a6UJ:www.scribd.com/doc/63663/David-Icke-Was-Hitler-A-Rothschild+david+icke+is+a+nazi&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us
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Evening Standard (London)
Friday, 26 May, 1995,

The Dark Side of David Icke

He may seem like a harmless eccentric, but, says MARK HONIGSBAUM, some of the views put forward by self-styled guru David Icke, currently lecturing round Britain, are dangerously popular with anti-Semites and neo-Nazis.

It has become fashionable, even among adherents of the New Age, to dismiss David Icke as a crank. For a long time now the former Green Party spokesman and self-styled "Son of God" has been collecting fringe beliefs and theories like other people collect new shoes. UFOs, CIA "mind control", world apocalypse - you name it, David Icke has tried it.

But judging by the response to Icke's current lecture tour of Britain, he is no longer quite the figure of fun he used to be.

At a recent meeting in Glastonbury, for instance, more than 100 people paid 5 pounds each to hear his views. During the lecture, David Taylor, a national spokesman for the Green Party, repeatedly heckled Icke about his use of the notorious anti-Semitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Meanwhile, the Jewish Chronicle has been pressing Icke's Bath-based publisher, Gateway, to reveal the truth about the manuscript of his latest book, said to contain offensive revisionary passages about the Holocaust.

Now uncanny parallels are emerging between Icke's thoughts - if that
is not too grand a term for his mishmash of conspiracy theories and
New Age - and the writings of senior figures in the armed militia
movement in America. ...

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/british/combat-18/press/evening-standard.052695
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David Icke, the Reptilian Infiltration, and the Limits of Science Fiction
By James Trimarco
2 April 2007

... The author goes on to postulate a race of reptilians that has controlled human society from its very beginning. These beings, which Icke calls by the Sumerian[3] word "Anunnaki," infiltrate human society through interbreeding with humans and placing their crossbred offspring into roles of power in human society. The evidence he offers to support this claim, as the late conspiracy expert Bill Keith has pointed out, is hardly of academic quality. The evidence ranges from crackpot etymology (vampires are reptilians because "Dracula" sounds like "Draco" and so on) to references to books that have been repeatedly debunked by scientific experts. Keith characterizes Icke's scholarly methodology as "Believe every goddamn weird thing anybody, anywhere ever said."

The poor quality of Icke's scholarship should be obvious to any reader with a middle-school education, and yet his work resonates with many people. A closer investigation into Icke's vision of Anunnaki infiltration helps to explain the appeal his writings have for his small but loyal group of followers. For Icke, the story of human enslavement by reptilian forces begins about 450,000 years ago. Paraphrasing a translation of a Sumerian tablet by the controversial Orientalist Alexander Sitchin, Icke describes the arrival of the Anunnaki in Africa for the purpose of mining gold. At first, the Anunnaki roped their own working classes into laboring in these mines, but later they developed humanity as a slave race through genetic engineering (6). While the original purpose of humanity's creation involved the exploitation of human labor, Icke argues that the Anunnaki have other, darker uses for human beings. Throughout The Biggest Secret, Icke points to the bloodiest and most difficult chapters in human history and blames each one on Anunnaki scheming. Human sacrifice? Demanded by reptilian overlords (38). British colonialism? Designed to wipe out indigenous knowledge and replace it with propaganda and mind-control (129).

The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ...

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2007/20070402/trimarco-icke-a.shtml
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Closing Comments: Don't Drink the Punch.

Do my comments and sources constitute an "ad hominem" attack? - yep-yep. I have no problem with calling people vile names so long as they are backed by real facts, not misbegotten impressions of the sort "AdamS," who opened this discussion, brought to me. If the shoe fits ...

Since part one, "AdamS" has commented that my response is largely "guilt by association" - but anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial are not guilt by association. Neither is publishing in Neo-Nazi publications, something I'd never do in five million years. Spotlight? Exposure? That makes him one of them, not tangentially "associated" but in the Nazi camp. Only a rank amateur or "fellow traveller" would accuse me of "ad hominem" and "guilt by association" here. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Lizards from the fourth-dimension? How stupid does it have to get before his readers question this crap? What's next? The Protocols of Satanic, Jewish Gay Clowns from the Dog Star?

I'm an anti-nazi who exposes the Holocaust. My Birchite "shadow" is a neo-nazi who denies it. There is no common ground here, and anyone who calls Icke - as a publisher in Santa Barbara once did - "the British Alex Constantine," is a hopeless nutter. I once heard a 9/11 researcher interviewed on NPR refer to Icke as a "turd in the punchbowl." Drink at your own discretion, but know what you're swallowing.
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el kabong wrote:Yoo Hoo, lilly willy, I notice you retain alot of anger, jealousy, envy, etc...........you must learn to overcome your ego and manifest lovingkindness to all, even those you feel have wronged you. thumbs up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbkbt8g2kSs&feature=fvst

http://www.shambhala.com/html/catalog/items/isbn/978-1-59030-332-0.cfm

Negative emotions have much to teach us about ourselves and our relationships with others and the world at large.

the consequences of malicious gossip, slander, and insults

cultivating humility as the middle path between pride and lack of self-
esteem

learning to rejoice in the happiness and success of others

knowing when it's better not to be nice

the proper way to correct or criticize others

living with ill-will and avoiding fights

forgiveness and reconciliation

turning your enemy into your best friend

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The Torah recognizes one positive use of jealousy - be envious of the virtues in others. thumbs up

"Envy," according to Rabbi Bonder, is "a vampire who feeds not on his own vitality but on that of others." Like anger, gossip, and negative emotions, it "pollutes the heart." Instead of resenting the happiness of others, we can practice "farginen," a Yiddish word meaning making a pact with another person's pleasure or success.

"Envy is the most abstract form of rage." (4) There is a
sense to Bonder that the conflict here is between "I" and the "other." In this sense his thesis takes on the elements not only of
Buber but also of what we have seen regarding Eastern thought. He will speak later of the importance of dialogic
communication to break the chains forged by this powerful enslaver. He makes an interesting point in the Introduction in
speaking of the Ten Commandments. Why is it that the last commandment deals with envy or coveting? "The Rabbi of Radvil
explained: 'This is the last of the Commandments because he who fulfills it will certainly have complied with the rest.'" (5)

Bonder next talks about the power of envy by repeating a story from the Talmud. In it Moses had asked God why he had to
die, and God explained it was because he had already named Joshua to lead the people. Moses then tried to persuade both
Joshua and God that if he could live he would be content with not being in charge. Finally God agreed. But the first time
Joshua entered the Holy of Holies and Moses could not enter Moses prayed for death saying., "A hundred deaths are
preferable to the pain of envy." This gives us some idea of the pain and power of envy, but probably most of us do not need it
pointed out. The problem as Bonder says is that it often does not just come at the end of our life where it can so easily be
avoided. The author then establishes the purpose of the book as "not so much a study of the pathology of envy as it is a guide
to how to live with it." (11) That study will involve ancient as well as modern techniques.

Envy and all that relates to it, more than any other emotions, enslaves us to another person. Rabbi Zalmon Shachter-Shalomi,
(he lectures at the Naropa Institute in Boulder), is quoted as describing Envy as the "Poker-game syndrome." Winning in this
game depends on another's loss, and it is even better if one wins by bluffing. The goal therefore is not so much a personal
victory, but an opponents defeat. Each player tries to hide what he has from his opponent. Envy turns its slave into a heartless
predator.

The second chapter deals with envy and how it relates to other worlds. These other worlds are a Kabbalistic idea. These four
worlds will be discussed in a little more detail later, but suffice it to say that they represent a composite of who we are. They
represent the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual dimensions. They are essentially overlays. Perhaps I can draw an
analogy based on my teaching photography in journalism. I had a four color separation that I would show to my students.
As the layers of red, yellow, and green were successively laid down, the picture would begin to look better and better, but it
wasn’t until the final layer of black was overlaid that the picture really looked sharp. It was also shown to them the
importance of aligning them just right or the picture comes out blurry. So too are the worlds. When things seem distorted we
are not in proper alignment to them. Bonder's explanation is as follows, "These worlds, coexistent and superimposed on one
another, serve to transport mundane events, starting with the most concrete, into more subtle dimensions of reality. In addition
to the four worlds effects on anger, there is also a cumulative effect. Just as small doses of something behave in one way while
cumulatively they can be altered in nature, so too hatred. Bonder gives many examples in the form of midrashic stories, but I
imagine we have had first hand experience with a small anger being left to fester and growing way out of proportion. One
interesting note is that the majority of stories have to do with problems of borrowing and lending. I suspect in some way or
other that is the cause of most anger and frustration today as well. Our whole economic structure is built around breaking the
wise axium, "neither a borrower nor a lender be." I have railed against Capitalism before and I will do it again. This is a
system that uses greed and avarice as its fuel and its inevitable by-product is envy, anger and frustration. This represents the
worlds out of balance.

There is a long section on the four worlds relationship to this topic. Condensed: hatred, voraciousness greed and slander exist
in the out of balance world of the physical -- Asiyah. Hatred turns into revenge, pride, jealousy, and talebearing in the
emotional world of Yetzirah. It continues to grow into feuding, envy, arragance and an evil tongue as it passes into the mental
Beriah. And finally karma, skepticism, and heresy are the result of hatred in the spiritual world of Atzilut. I think this is the main
point for Bonder in his trying to present a plan of action for defeating envy. We may not be able to control our physical natures
easily, but we can recognize the warning signs and stop the progress before it reaches our spirits. I want to present this in
another way to make certain that Bonder's point is made. The following is the progression of hatred and its fellows:
ASIYAH YETZIRAH BERIAH ATZILUT
HATRED REVENGE FEUDING KARMA
GREED PRIDE ARROGANCE SKEPTICISM
VORACITY JEALOUSY ENVY SKEPTICISM
SLANDER TALE-BEARING EVIL TONGUE HERESY

While the ultimate goal is to eliminate the problem before it starts at the physical level, the starting point is to try to halt its
progress. One of the most important places to start is with pride. There is much written about this, but Bonder makes several
interesting points. One is that humility is not the opposite of pride; lack of self-esteem is. "Humility is the point of equilibrium."
(36) One of the dangers of pride is that it can disguise itself as personal growth. According to Rabbi Mendel Libavitser,
"There is no worse pride than the pride of the pious." And according to Bonder, "Of all the types of pride, the pride of a
person who thinks he is growing as a human being is the worst." (37) The sad thing is that this goes to the heart of the self-
improvement movement. It becomes just another possession that if you spend enough money you can "possess" goodness
and maturity "They want to possess growth as one possesses a diploma, instead of living it and enduring the pangs that are an
intrinsic part of growth." Bonder uses a great analogy that pride represents a negative sign, so that no matter how many
points you gather towards enlightenment, pride instantly turns the number into a negative . The solution to pride is humility.

Proverbs 22:4 says, "The effect of humility is fear of the Lord, wealth, honor, and life." Bonder equates humility with the fear
of God. He uses many texts to prove his point, but let me try and apply this to those who may have a difficult time with the
notion of God. The point is that we must fear or respect something that is far removed from the physical plane. The effect of
that is to move us past the concern for how we appear to others. Ghandi is a great example of humility. Of course we can not
all instantly achieve his status, but if we could set men like him rather then many of the actors, or sports figures or politicians or
even self-help gurus that we tend to idolize, we would at least be moving in the right direction. So fear does not mean fear of
retribution, but rather fear that we will somehow disappoint whatever god we choose to put into that position, and unless that
god is truly worthy of emulating, we will get our desire and become just like him or her to our Karmic destruction. We must
choose whom we fear carefully and then we must be willing to live our lives in service to that choice as if he or she were right
there with us at every moment. I just read an example of this from the book Ghandi. Gopal Krishna Gokhale was a leader in
the Indian nationalist movement and very well respected in his own right. He said of Ghandi, "In Ghandi's presence, one is
ashamed to do anything unworthy….afraid of thinking anything unworthy." (44) This would be classified as the fear of Ghandi.

OK, I have to move on or I will never get this finished. In chapter 3, "Reasons For Hate," Bonder discusses some of the
emotional and physical situations we get into that causes hatred or rancor to grow. One of the main reasons is differences.
We tend to love and easily forgive those who we perceive as close to us, and close off those who are different. To overcome
this we must first learn to love ourself, "All love begins with loving oneself and then seeing in others…different people who
are part of us. The important thing to note here, is that we are not called to defy our nature by forcing ourselves to love those
who are not connected with us in some way. The trick is to fool our nature by expanding the realm of those we see as our
family. Again, as Bonder puts it, "Personal growth occurs not out of an attempt to love non-children/siblings or
disciples/friends, nor from the expectation of betraying our natures, but from a constant review of who we are." (50)

Bonder next discusses humiliation. We have seen that come up so many times before that I wont spend any time with it here
except to say that it is a vital part of our growth to put that behind us. I was watching television the other day and I saw a
commercial for America's Funniest Home Videos. That show, and going all the way back to Alan Funt's Candid Camera
shows off our love for seeing others humiliated. Even the so called "Reality Shows" that are so popular today are built at the
expense of someone else's pride. Another example of humiliation is gossip. This has often caused great grief, and again, I don't
think that needs defending, but as to how to combat it. Bonder quotes Reb Israel Meir who came up with a formula for when
criticism, (Often a dressed up word we use for slander or gossip), is constructive:
1.Evidence of dishonesty or faults must be obtained by the person who makes
the criticism and not by way of rumors he has heard.
2. The person who criticizes must be cautious and reflect deeply on the matter, to
to be sure that this is an instance of an incorrect attitude.
3. He must then privately censure the person who committed the error, without
creating a furor and in a nonthreatening manner, showing his expectation
that the behavior in question will be changed. If this does not occur, then
he may make the case public.

4. He should never make the offense appear greater than it is.
5. He should try to understand his own motives and be sure he is not criticizing
the other for personal reasons.
6. If there is any other way to avoid slandering the other, he should first
resort to that method.
7. As a result of his action, he should not bring upon the criticized individual
a punishment greater than that proffered by a court if the case were to
be judged.
In addition to all this, a person who publicly slanders someone should himself
be honest and not guilty of the same type of crimes or faults for which he is criticizing
the other. (65-66)

Well, there goes our legal system.

Slander and humiliation invades the other's privacy and space. This is also something we should consider. We need to be
careful of another's space, and if ours is invaded we need to question whether or not we actually left enough room for the
other to avoid interfering. Bonder put it nicely when he said, "When people step on our toes, many times they do it because
we have left no other space for them to stand, except on our own feet. " (69) So what is the answer here? We must strive to
allow other's their space and understand what our own space looks like. When we are criticized or think we are, we need to
be very careful to really understand where the arrow is coming from and where it was really intended to go.

Bonder starts off the next section entitled, "Quarreling," with a great Yiddish proverb, "If the heart is bitter, nothing will
sweeten the mouth." (75) Essentially what Bonder talks about in the first section is that we generally have the greatest quarrels
or feuds with those who are closest to us and most often the quarrel is over something that the quarreler hates about himself.
According to the Maggid of Mezeritz, "Do not be discouraged by strong opposition. Robbers attack those who carry jewels,
not carts carrying fertilizer." (76) What a great illustration. If we could think to ourselves every time someone picks a fight
with us that we should be flattered that this person sees us as worthy to try and rob from. We should be flattered. If we could
truly feel that way, what kind of response do you think that would engender? I would venture to guess it would be completely
different from our normal response. Another suggestion Bonder makes for ending what may seem impossible feuds is taken
from the story of Jacob's wrestling with the Angel. I will assume you know the story, so I wont repeat it, but there are a few
interesting insights that Bonder has. Jacob was about to meet Esau and this is a classic feud story, but before he met him,
Jacob dreamt he wrestled with an Angel who was actually God. We must recognize that when we quarrel with someone, we
are actually quarreling with God, but we often avoid that fight. We shouldn't. It is only by wrestling with God or our innermost
self that we can bring about change. That change may turn us inside out or create in us a whole new person with a different
name, (Jacob to Israel), but it beats the alternative which is being beaten down by our demons of rage. There is another
interesting point that the author makes. "Jacob had come to a river whose name is an anagram formed by the inversion of the
letters of his own name (J-c-b; J-b-c )." (83) We must often turn our way of looking at things around in order to see who
we really should be fighting with. It is interesting that God seems to encourage us then to fight with him rather than others. Even
the name Israel which was to became a great and glorious name means "he who fights with God." One of the fringe benefits of
fighting with God is that it could keep us from falling into the trap of believing that you are absolutely right and your opponent
(God) is absolutely wrong. Bonder tells a story that illustrates the point, "Judge not lest you be judged." But I prefer to think
about that in the light of another story that essentially says that when we stand before God, every word of judgement that we
spoke about others will be used to sentence ourselves. Scary thought. One of the keys here is to always, always doubt the
things we believe are certain when we are angry, and never argue by criticizing others or justifying ourselves. We must be very
careful whenever we feel we are right because, "Being right lies on a tenuous line between true worship and idol worship."
(89) There is a belief that when we truly learn to engage in dialogue that the Messiah will come. So how can we have
legitimate differences of opinion with another person? We must always respect our opponent and (this is a great key) "He
must reach the complex stage of knowing he is not right, but being certain he is not wrong." That takes some contemplation,
but it soon proves to be a powerful insight into how to argue dialogically. While this can help us when we are in the midst of
conflict, Bonder's next chapter will talk about avoidance.

One of the first ways to avoid conflict is learning to see each situation clearly. I have heard the story that Bonder tells here
before, but I love it and I think it's worth repeating:
The king visited the royal prison and spoke with the prisoners. Each who
Approached vowed his innocence, except for one prisoner, who confessed
to being a thief. "Get this scoundrel out of here!" exclaimed the king. "He
will corrupt the innocent!" (95)

It is no accident that one of the physical characteristics of anger is squinting the eyes. If we could see clearly we would most
likely not be angry. Just as in the last paper, we talked about hearing what was not said, so too must we be able to see what
may not be obviously visible. This is the stuff of prophets and holy men which is available to each and everyone of us. Bonder
puts it succinctly when he says, "Prophecy comes from a wise person's ability to keep his eyes open when everyone else's are
closed." (98) Most of us when confronted with a child who does outrageous things can react with patience and
understanding. This is a child after all. I remember one time I was disciplining my daughter and she flew into a rage and started
yelling and screaming and telling me that she hated me. I didn't react back with anger, I knew she didn't mean those things. I
let her spend her anger, then we talked, and then we hugged, and it was over. Had I been confronted with that kind of anger
from an adult, I doubt I would have been as forgiving. But that's the problem. Bonder talks about the Rabbinic concept of
tinok she-nishbah which is a captive child that does not know of his origin. This child must be treated with extreme patience
and forgiveness. When we are greeted with anger we must learn to develop an understanding that the person before us is a
tinok she-nishbah. I have been doing some reading about dealing with the inner child and the bottom line seems to be that
Bonder's assessment here and the concepts he quotes have a very solid basis psychologically. Each one of us has that inner-
child, and I would venture to say that for a number of us, diagnosed or not, that child has never really been nurtured. Is it any
wonder that conflicts exist. At least with my girls, they have the assurance, proven time and again, that I love them
unconditionally and the bonus is that they have returned that unconditional love to me. There are many who have never had
that assurance. The goal of most religions is to provide that assurance on a spiritual level, but we must truly accept it. So what
Bonder is saying here as a way to avoid conflict is that we must identify the child in others (as well as ourselves) and treat them
as a LOVING parent. What this does is allow an "other" the space to grow. Bonder gives us a great Yiddish verb farginen
which means "to open space, to share pleasure; it is the exact opposite of the verb to envy." (104) It is much easier to grieve
with someone then to rejoice with them. To farginen someone takes discipline and practice. But I offer again the analogy of
seeing in the other not only a child, but your child. I feel no envy when my girls succeed, only pride. It is easy to farginen your
own child or disciple so the trick is to expand your definition of who is your family. Christianity teaches in the words of Jesus
and I am paraphrasing since I no longer have a Christian Bible, Who is my mother…I tell you that anyone who does the will of
God is my mother and father and sister and brother."

Know the example I gave earlier of my daughter's anger came out of discipline or rebuke that I made. Bonder in the next
section gives us another way to avoid conflict by understanding how to offer correction that avoids rancor or conflict. The
heart of his proposal comes from Leviticus 19:17 that juxtaposes two concepts in one verse. "Do not hate your brother in your
heart…certainly you shall rebuke your neighbor and not suffer sin upon him." The implication here is twofold; one, not
criticizing another is equal to hatred of the other and two, when we criticize, it cannot be with any kind of hatred or dislike for
the other. If either you or the other is unprepared for the criticism, you must not give it. I must apologize now for the length of
this journal. Bonder uses so many wonderful stories in his book, and I have tried not to repeat most of them, but I find some
that are just too good not to repeat. So I apologize for making you read so much. Well here goes. This is from another of the
many great Rabbis who lived around the 18th century, Rabbi Meir:
Once, a lion decided not to seek food until his breath was sweeter. He found a
Mule and said to him, "Put your head near my mouth and tell me if my breath
Is sweet." The mule did so and responded negatively.
"How dare he insult me?" exclaimed the king of beasts and immediately
devoured the mule.
Some days later, the lion met up with a wolf and put the same question to him.
The wolf answered in the affirmative. "How dare you lie to me?" roared the lion, and devoured him at once.
Some time later, he questioned a fox, an animal that does not let himself get mixed up in complicated situations. "Excuse me,"
said the fox. "I have a cold and have lost my sense of smell."
"Get yourselves a cold as well," said Rabbi Meir to his disciples, "and you will be saved from the lion." (111)
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