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MoMo Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:00 pm
Lilly, Queen of Bullshit of the Runt Continent of Australia!!!! Ahoy!!!!
Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.
Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%
Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.
Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%
Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%
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Re: Who IS on line???
MoMo Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:32 pm
Be that as it may, the fact remains that lillys head is permanantly embedded so far up her own ass that she sees nothing but poo.
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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background
Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.
This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis
Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.
If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.
Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.
This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.
49c: Cinderella, part 3:
The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.
Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.
Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).
We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.
Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.
Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.
Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."
49d: Cinderella, part 4:
Exile and Redemption
The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.
Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:
"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)
This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"
"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)
Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,
"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)
Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.
We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.
The Dry Bones
Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.
"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."
A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:
"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"
Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.
Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:
Exile and Redemption
I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.
Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.
We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,
"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."
This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.
The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when
"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)
A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.
"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)
Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.
And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."
The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.
Cinderella and her sisters
Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.
Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
X-Ray of Lillys, Queen of Bullshits Skull
http://www.vbm-torah.org/jewphi.htm
53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background
Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.
This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis
Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.
If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.
Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.
This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.
49c: Cinderella, part 3:
The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.
Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.
Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).
We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.
Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.
Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.
Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."
49d: Cinderella, part 4:
Exile and Redemption
The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.
Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:
"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)
This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"
"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)
Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,
"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)
Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.
We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.
The Dry Bones
Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.
"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."
A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:
"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"
Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.
Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:
Exile and Redemption
I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.
Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.
We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,
"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."
This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.
The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when
"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)
A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.
"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)
Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.
And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."
The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.
Cinderella and her sisters
Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.
Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
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Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:43 am
true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.
Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do
),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,
cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &..,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran,WW
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:Why don't 'you' all attack 'el kabong' and All of Team Tintin
for ALWAYS, ALL OVER, ALL CONspiracy SITES and 'innocent'
forums, endlessly spamming the same old, long ago proven lies,
INTIMIDATION'S, DEATH THREATS and TERRORIST CODE?
Oh that's right, I get spammed and banned everywhere, because,
I am only one real person, with one old p.c., still standing,
against all odds, against The Global Legion of The Beast.
Interesting though, how many of 'you' on line 'enemies', unite
to preach all the failed religions of man and attack me for showing
what I find in God's Word and asking folk to study and test it,
for themselves.true lilly wrote:An interesting new poster
has appeared on "tintin's" thread...
...right after "yass" posted...
V
...we see...
...stormrider73
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Irkutsk, Siberia
Posts: 37
...who then posted...
...who I find an awful lot like...
...interesting to, that it is on the previous page:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2986
...that "tintin" and his team, start their
blatantly obvious DEFENCE of BREIVIK
and his fellow PUPPETS and HANDLERS
(including clearly marked locals), while
also starting their blatantly obvious call
for ALL OUT WAR AGAINST GOD'S, HOLY,
ETERNAL KINGDOM.
Many clearly angry, clearly foolish (for being
so clearly direct), orders follow...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2987
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2988
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2989
...though, despite knowing nothing of:
stormrider73...
...and not even being able to access,
"all posts by" them, they do seem to,
be hinting at a warning against loyalty,
to the inherently dis-loyal "tintin" and
his team...
..."Those people certainly know each other "
Last edited by stormrider73; 31-07-2011 at 05:09 AM.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2990true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:
P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.GET OFF THE DRUGS. LEARN TO READ.el kabong wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Ok,
Hi Sweetie,
this
thread is as it's title says,you get asked a question,,please answer
without vaguequotes to TNBTN from years ago,,photos of unrelated
topics that just chew up my broadband allocation,straight up answers on
topic,if photographic evidence is to be given,like for example...a car
bombing,in a small country town,ahhh lets say Victoria
State,Australia,maybe town names are Ballarat or Arrarat,that'd be
great,not photos,of a woman parading a dog,that looked completely
different on a cheap mobile phone.
So there's the first question...can you do it???
So, 'your' LOSE/LOSE DEMAND of me is to:
RE-WRITE, FROM SCRATCH, 6 YEARS of work,
RE-ANSWERING 'your' 'questions' that 'you'
KEEP REJECTING AS "lies" WITH 'your' LIES
and NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS...let me think...
...... ...
'you' HAVE MY NUMBER.
'YOU' CAN PERSONALLY QUIZ ME ANY TIME...oh that's right,
'you' ONLY RANG ME TO PREACH 'your/cori's' RELIGIOUS
FEAR OF
soooooo........billyboy, does Gibberish count as a straight answer?
OR SIMPLY STOP LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH,
under YOUR DELUSION that EVERYONE IS AS STUPID
AND EVIL AS "YOU".true lilly wrote:Hey C. UNT...Africa is 'bigger' to...
...'you' SICK F. UCK...
...mmm...CHILLING CHOICE of
3 out of 3 LEAD IMAGE/REPORTS...
Mihag Gedi Farah is seven months old and weighs 3.4kg, about the average
weight of a newborn baby. Famine in Somalia has already killed tens of
thousands and the UN warns numbers will grow. Picture: AP
Read More
Ellie Paxton-Hall, the youngest MasterChef contestant, has been sent home
after last night's cooking challenge and will blog about her time on the
show from 12.30pm today.
Read More
A controversial child beauty pageant from the US starts in Melbourne
today. Do you think these events are child abuse? Debate Susie O'Brien
LIVE from noon today. Picture: Supplied
Read More
...but NOW, 'they' WILL simply point to the first image,
to 'excuse' BABIES BEING TREATED WORSE than the UNluckest
of Show Dogs that C. UNTS like GREENIE/ANIMAL LIBER
TERRORISTS, CAUSE TO BE KILLED, DUE TO THE LAWS
'they' DELIBERATELY INTRODUCE, under The LIE, "welfare".
THE SAME TERRORIST C. UNTS WHO DEFEND CHILD PORN
AND THE CHILD SEX TRADE 'as' "NEEDED" "FREE" "Artistic"
'luuvvving' "EXPRESSIONS".
Yep, it's getting bloody easy to find The Evil Damned
on CONspiracy Forums and All Over The WEB/NET of
FILTHY LIES THAT LEAD TO PERMANENT DEATH.true lilly wrote:And why act as if you don't know
the vast difference between
the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?true lilly wrote:'they' really do lack in creativity, when it comes to
inventing non-existent links to those 'they' ARE
PLOTTING AGAINST.
And insult the minds of EVERY reader.
So very soon after "dixie d's" posted links to
"CLEMENTINE" this fool tries to 'cover' one
poor excuse to post a CODED PLOT/THREAT,
with an even worse 'explanation' of 'reasoning'.
So poor, I thought maybe WIKIPEDIA had changed
facts with lies, AGAIN, but no.
And so, here it is; another VERY ANGRY,
VERY DIRECTLY THREATENING (to those
NOT DECEIVED by the 'smooth' words),post by:pri01 wrote:28-07-2011, 09:33 PM #29850
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninny
i thought to add this here, because this is pretty bizarre
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011...d-and-defaced/
Swagger's been on my mind recently because of this person.
cher lloyd.jpg
Cher Lloyd, was a hit with last year’s x factor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Lloyd
She got through the second round
though with a song that she apparently penned the lyrics to part of it. I
suspect she was coached in this because of the reference to Jerusalem
but can’t be fully sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jooLnnhTrbE
Her first single, or a song from her
new album called swagger jagger, the chorus follows the tune of the
Australian song ‘Oh my darling clementine’, a song related to the gold
rush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Darling,_Clementine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbyG2MrBHk&ob=av2e
May have something to do with the economy.
Maybe related to: the FACT Ballarat alone, produced more gold
than California, and that Australia's Foreign ENEMIES
BITTERLY JEALOUS of The Glorious Land Spiritual Israel Is Blessed With,
that 'they' slave to bring us the evils of 'their' insane WAR AGAINST GOD.
I'd say it also has A LOT to do with these posts that caused
"Billy Ruben & el kabong" to SPAM ALL MY THREADS with LIES &
WAY OFF TOPIC CATS & CRAP in a futile effort to make those
who matter, 'forget' THE NEWS that NONE of 'them' DARE to
cover in "TODAY'S NEWS" at DIF...true lilly wrote:cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826
crosshairs
...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.true lilly wrote:Could Google have caught the Norway killer?
Asher Moses
July 28, 2011
Click to play video
'More openness' will prevent attacks
Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that
Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.
With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?
Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.
Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"
Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches
Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.
He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.
Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.
The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.
"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.
Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.
Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.
Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.
However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.
Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."
Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.
Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".
"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.
"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."
In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.
And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.
"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.
"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."
Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.
And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.
"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.
Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.
Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".
But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.
Google Australia declined to comment.
This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh
sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...true lilly wrote:"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...dixie d wrote: 26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807
I noticed two articles in the News today...
Morocco military plane crash kills 78
And...
Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally
I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...
Quote:
It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.
I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania
The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin
Quote:
A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft.
Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric
imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more
modern.
I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.
28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT
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Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea
Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down
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Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.
The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.
It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.
A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.
After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.
Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.
Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.
The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.
A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol
A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.
The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS
...and THIS, REALLY GOT 'their' GOAT...P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.
Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.
And why act as if you don't know the vast difference
between the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
Isa 22:20
And it shall come to pass in that day 3117,
that I will call 7121 my servant 5650 Eliakim 471
the son 1121 of Hilkiah 2518:
Isa 22:21
And I will clothe 3847 him with thy robe 3801,
and strengthen 2388 him with thy girdle 73,
and I will commit 5414 thy government 4475
into his hand 3027: and he shall be a father 1
to the inhabitants 3427 of Jerusalem 3389,
and to the house 1004 of Judah 3063.
Isa 22:22
And the key 4668 of the house 1004 of David 1732
will I lay 5414 upon his shoulder 7926;
so he shall open 6605, and none shall shut 5462;
and he shall shut 5462, and none shall open 6605.
Rev 3:7
And 2532 to the angel 32 of the church 1577 in 1722
Philadelphia 5359 write 1125;
These things 3592 saith 3004 he that is holy 40,
he that is true 228, he that hath 2192 the key 2807
of David 1138, he that openeth 455, and 2532
no man 3762 shutteth 2808; and 2532 shutteth 2808,
and 2532 no man 3762 openeth 455;true lilly wrote:Do you see what I see?
Do you wonder why it was done?
Artificial color image
of the Double Helix Nebula,
thought to be generated at the
galactic center by magnetic torsion
1000 times greater than the sun's.
Yep, a STAR of DAVID
circled by 12 more
POINTS of LIGHT.
And if you click on to the full sized image, also...
The Tudor rose
is used as the plant badge of
England.
London 2012 Olympics:
medal designs unveiled
MORE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8665946/London-2012-Olympics-medal-designs-unveiled.html
Now why would a world full of
CONspiracy 'sleuths' keep avoiding,
the topic of the "O" in ZION
(in The Centre of this circle
representing The World),
looking just like OZ, O'ZION,
AUSTRALIA,
even with the 'dot' of the "I" there
for little Tasmania?
Could it be for the same reason 'they' also
keep avoiding the topic of who Australia
can thank for BOOMING while the rest of
the world, is crashing?
Moreover, thou son 1121 of man 120,
take 3947 thee one 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Judah 3063,
and for the children 1121 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
then take 3947 another 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Joseph 3130,
the stick 6086 of Ephraim 669,
and [for] all the house 1004 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
And join 7126 them one 259 to another 259
into one 259 stick 6086;
and they shall become one 259
in thine hand 3027.
Moreover I will make 3772
a covenant 1285 of peace 7965 with them;
it shall be an everlasting 5769 covenant 1285
with them: and I will place 5414 them,
and multiply 7235 them, and will set 5414
my sanctuary 4720 in the midst 8432 of them
for evermore 5769.
My tabernacle 4908 also shall be with them:
yea, I will be their God 430,
and they shall be my people 5971.
And the heathen 1471 shall know 3045
that I the LORD 3068 do sanctify 6942 Israel 3478,
when my sanctuary 4720 shall be in the midst 8432
of them for evermore 5769.
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=37&v=1&t=KJV#top
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.
'You' can't recognize this, 'Billy', because it is a detailed reply to 'your'
false accusations made in lieu of any of 'you' answering any of my
Key Questions, while spamming all my threads with the same old
preaching of mans failed religions, then crying foul at my contextual
information with links for readers to check the sources and follow up
with their own, free thinking, study...something 'you mob' avoid like
the plague and, bitterly curse and attack anyone for daring to do.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:27 pm
Lilly Speweth:
That was'nt a detailed reply,this quote is just bong drizzle,WTF are you on about,detailed reply,it's four days worth of spam addressed to El Kabong,f*ck get it right,you reallly are one of Gods special creatures....
'You' can't recognize this, 'Billy', because it is a detailed reply to 'your'
false accusations made in lieu of any of 'you' answering any of my
Key Questions, while spamming all my threads with the same old
preaching of mans failed religions, then crying foul at my contextual
information with links for readers to check the sources and follow up
with their own, free thinking, study...something 'you mob' avoid like
the plague and, bitterly curse and attack anyone for daring to do.
That was'nt a detailed reply,this quote is just bong drizzle,WTF are you on about,detailed reply,it's four days worth of spam addressed to El Kabong,f*ck get it right,you reallly are one of Gods special creatures....
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:42 am
hey, not my fault 'they'/'you' keep digging pits
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:
and 'the rest of you'...
WAR CAVE: warkave: and 'the rest of you'...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1237-war-cave-warkave-and-the-rest-of-you#18568
...as to any real,
independent people who may stumble in here:
Why SOME HERE keep posting the same,
Unsubstantiated=PROVEN LIES,
as to, what and why, I post, what and how, I do;
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
...but nah,
the dergs are too busy hacking my posts,
to read them
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:51 am
true lilly wrote:hey, not my fault 'they'/'you' keep digging pits
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:
and 'the rest of you'...
WAR CAVE: warkave: and 'the rest of you'...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1237-war-cave-warkave-and-the-rest-of-you#18568
...as to any real,
independent people who may stumble in here:
Why SOME HERE keep posting the same,
Unsubstantiated=PROVEN LIES,
as to, what and why, I post, what and how, I do;
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
...but nah,
the dergs are too busy hacking my posts,
to read them
el kabong wrote:First word: Torah = Instruction = The Tree of Life
'
Testimony from Yahshua Messiah/Jesus being tempted by Satan in the Desert Wilderness.
Book of Matthew 4
4 Then Yahshua/Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.
2And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.
3And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of Yahweh.’
1 TIMOTHY
8And we know that the Torah is good if one uses it legitimately,
2 TIMOTHY 3
13But evil men and impostors shall go on to the worse,d leading astray and being led astray.
14But you, stay in what you have learned and trusted, having known from whom you have learned,
15and that from a babe you have known the Set-apart Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for deliverance through belief in Messiah .
16All Scripture is breathed by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
17that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
6For among them are those who creep into households and captivate silly women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
What Lilly does not comprehend is that Yahshua and His Apostles were teaching the Torah/Instruction of YHWH to Jews and Gentiles alike. Yahshua was universalizing Torah/Instruction.
http://www.sabbath-day.com/f0501c.html
The Law Defines the Righteousness of Christ
The fact that Christ kept the law in its perfect entirety is one of the main themes of Paul's writing. Indeed, this theme appears in his writing as one of the foundation stones for faith. Hebrews 4:15,16 is one of our most encouraging texts: "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and may find grace to help in time of need." Christ lived on earth "without sin". Because we know that "sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John. 3:4) and we know that Christ knew the law, we can safely deduce that Christ perfectly kept the law. Thus, we can look to the law to define the standard of Christ's righteousness.
1 John 3:7 tells us, "Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous." The Ten Commandments tell us what is righteousness, and the one who practices these things is righteous. We must remember that if any one of us could perfectly keep the law, that law would be counted as righteousness to us, as it was to Christ. As Romans 2:26 states, "If therefore the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?" Which is to say, even a Gentile who keeps the law perfectly is viewed by God as a perfect man--a true Jew.
Yet, not one of us has kept the law, "There is none righteous, not even one. . . . For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," (Rom. 3:10, 23) and not one of us CAN keep it--in our own strength. But, Christ DID keep the law perfectly, and so He has a righteousness which it is impossible for us to obtain through any works on our part. The beauty of the Gospel is that Jesus will give us HIS righteousness--even though we cannot earn it in any way--and God will view us through Christ's righteousness as though it were our own. As Philippians 3:9 states, "And may [I] be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith."
Now, we can fairly say that Jesus was justified by the works of the law. We read about this in Heb. 5:8,9 and 7:26,27: "Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation." "For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people." But, we can never be justified in that way, because we are sinners and all our works originate in sin. Unless Jesus covers our best efforts with His perfect righteousness, they are "as filthy rags". Jesus did what we have failed to do--He kept the law perfectly! Adam had the chance to be justified by the law, but he failed. Jesus passed over the same ground and succeeded.
Notice that Hebrews 5:8,9 informs us that Jesus was made perfect through obedience. We cannot be made perfect through obedience--we must be made perfect through faith. When we have faith, Jesus lives in us and His righteousness becomes ours. We live His life with His power, become obedient, and thus, perfect. But the end result is the same: perfect obedience to God's law.
The whole point of the Gospel is to restore in man the image of God, to bring man back into harmony with the principles of God's government as they are revealed in God's law. Thus, the central point of righteousness--be it Christ's or our own--is keeping the law. Only one who keeps the law is in harmony with God's government. Let no one deceive you. "So speak and so act, as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty." (James 2:12) That law is the standard of righteousness. Look to Christ to see how it may be kept.
Isaiah 8
8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
8:17 And I will wait upon Yahweh, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
8:18 Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their Elohim? for the living to the dead?
8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Any honest person can read the above scripture and see that anyone who teahes against YHWHs Torah/Instruction is a False Teacher. You can also plainly see that Mount Zion is in Israel. Anyone who tells you otherwise is being False. Beware of those who extract and deform Scripture. Scripture supports itself. A False Doctrine will be exposed by Scripture.
http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm
Torah
Level: Basic
• Torah in the narrowest sense refers to the first five books of the Bible
• In a broader sense, Torah includes all Jewish law and tradition
• Torah was given to Moses in written form with oral commentary
• The oral component is now written in the Talmud
• There are additional important writings
The word "Torah" is a tricky one, because it can mean different things in different contexts. In its most limited sense, "Torah" refers to the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. But the word "torah" can also be used to refer to the entire Jewish bible (the body of scripture known to non-Jews as the Old Testament and to Jews as the Tanakh or Written Torah), or in its broadest sense, to the whole body of Jewish law and teachings.
Written Torah
To Jews, there is no "Old Testament." The books that Christians call the New Testament are not part of Jewish scripture. The so-called Old Testament is known to us as Written Torah or the Tanakh.
This is a list of the books of Written Torah, in the order in which they appear in Jewish translations, with the Hebrew name of the book, a translation of the Hebrew name (where it is not the same as the English name), and English names of the books (where it is not the same as the Hebrew name). The Hebrew names of the first five books are derived from the first few words of the book. The text of each book is more or less the same in Jewish translations as what you see in Christian bibles, although there are some occasional, slight differences in the numbering of verses and there are some significant differences in the translations.
TORAH (The Law):
Bereishith (In the beginning...) (Genesis)
Shemoth (The names...) (Exodus)
Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)
Bamidbar (In the wilderness...) (Numbers)
Devarim (The words...) (Deuteronomy)
NEVI'IM (The Prophets):
Yehoshua (Joshua)
Shoftim (Judges)
Shmuel (I &II Samuel)
Melakhim (I & II Kings)
Yeshayah (Isaiah)
Yirmyah (Jeremiah)
Yechezqel (Ezekiel)
The Twelve (treated as one book)
Hoshea (Hosea)
Yoel (Joel)
Amos
Ovadyah (Obadiah)
Yonah (Jonah)
Mikhah (Micah)
Nachum
Chavaqquq (Habbakkuk)
Tzefanyah (Zephaniah)
Chaggai
Zekharyah (Zechariah)
Malakhi
KETHUVIM (The Writings):
Tehillim (Psalms)
Mishlei (Proverbs)
Iyov (Job)
Shir Ha-Shirim (Song of Songs)
Ruth
Eikhah (Lamentations)
Qoheleth (the author's name) (Ecclesiastes)
Esther
Daniel
Ezra & Nechemyah (Nehemiah) (treated as one book)
Divrei Ha-Yamim (The words of the days) (Chronicles)
Written Torah is often referred to as the Tanakh, which is an acrostic of Torah, Nevi'im and Ketuvim.
Torah Scrolls
The scriptures that we use in services are written on parchment scrolls. They are always hand-written, in attractive Hebrew calligraphy with "crowns" (crows-foot-like marks coming up from the upper points) on many of the letters. This style of writing is known as STA"M (an abbreviation for "Sifrei Torah, Tefillin and Mezuzot," which is where you will see that style of writing). For more information about the STA"M alphabet, including illustrations and relevant rules, see Hebrew Alphabet used in writing STA"M.
You are not supposed to touch the parchment on these scrolls; some say because they are too holy; some say because the parchment, made from animal skins, is a source of ritual defilement; others say because your fingers' sweat has acids that will damage the parchment over time. Instead, you follow the text with a pointer, called a Yad. "Yad" means "hand" in Hebrew, and the pointer usually is in the shape of a hand with a pointing index finger (I always find this incredibly amusing). The scrolls are kept covered with fabric, and often ornamented with silver crowns on the handles of the scrolls and a silver breastplate on the front.
The scrolls are kept in a cabinet in the synagogue called an "ark," as in Ark of the Covenant, not as in Noah's Ark. The words are different and unrelated in Hebrew. Noah's ark (and also the ark that Moses was placed in) are called in Hebrew teyvat (ship). I was taught that the "Ark" of the Covenant and the ark in synagogue are an acrostic of "aron kodesh" (holy cabinet), but others have told me that it is merely an archaic English word derived from the Latin arca (cabinet).
The Torah scrolls that we read from in synagogue are unpointed text, with no vowels or musical notes, so the ability to read a passage from a scroll is a valuable skill, and usually requires substantial advance preparation (reviewing the passage in a text with points). See Hebrew Alphabet for more on pointed and unpointed texts.
Chumash
Jewish scriptures are sometimes bound in a form that corresponds to the division into weekly readings (called parshiyot in Hebrew). Scriptures bound in this way are generally referred to as a chumash. The word "chumash" comes from the Hebrew word meaning five, and refers to the five books of the Torah. Sometimes, a chumash is simply refers to a collection of the five books of the Torah. But often, a chumash contains the entire first five books, divided up by the weekly parshiyot, with the haftarah portion inserted after each week's parshah.
Oral Torah: The Talmud
In addition to the written scriptures we have an "Oral Torah," a tradition explaining what the above scriptures mean and how to interpret them and apply the Laws. Orthodox Jews believe G-d taught the Oral Torah to Moses, and he taught it to others, down to the present day. This tradition was maintained only in oral form until about the 2d century C.E., when the oral law was compiled and written down in a document called the Mishnah.
Over the next few centuries, additional commentaries elaborating on the Mishnah were written down in Jerusalem and Babylon. These additional commentaries are known as the Gemara. The Gemara and the Mishnah together are known as the Talmud. This was completed in the 5th century C.E.
There are actually two Talmuds: the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud is more comprehensive, and is the one most people mean if they just say "the Talmud" without specifying which one.
There have been additional commentaries on the Talmud by such noted Jewish scholars as Rashi and Rambam. Adin Steinsaltz is currently preparing a new edition of the Talmud, with his own commentary supplementing the Mishnah, Gemara, and Rashi commentaries.
The Talmud is not easy to read. It reminds me of someone else's class notes for a college lecture you never attended. There are often gaps in the reasoning where it is assumed that you already know what they are talking about, and concepts are often expressed in a sort of shorthand. Biblical verses that support a teaching are often referenced by only two or three words. The Talmud preserves a variety of views on every issue, and does not always clearly identify which view is the accepted one.
The Mishnah is divided into six sections called sedarim (in English, orders). Each seder contains one or more divisions called masekhtot (in English, tractates). There are 63 masekhtot in the Mishnah. Approximately half of these masekhtot have been addressed in the Talmud. Although these divisions seem to indicate subject matter, it is important to note that the Mishnah and the Talmud engage in quite a bit of free-association, thus widely diverse subjects may be discussed in a seder or masekhtah. Below is the division of the Mishnah into sedarim and masekhtot:
Zera'im (Seeds), dealing with agricultural laws
Berakhot
Peah
Demai
Kilayim
Shebiit
Terumot
Maaserot
Maaser Sheni
Challah
Orlah
Bikkurim
Mo'ed (Festival), dealing with Shabbat and festivals
Shabbat
Erubin
Pesachim
Sheqalim
Yoma
Sukkah
Besah
Rosh Hashanah
Taanit
Megillah
Moed Qatan
Hagigah
Nashim (Women), dealing with marriage, divorce and contracts
Yebamot
Ketubot
Nedarim
Nazir
Sotah
Gittin
Qiddushin
Nezikin (Damages), dealing with tort laws and other financial laws
Baba Qamma
Baba Mesia
Baba Batra
Sanhedrin
Makkot
Shabuot
Eduyyot
Avodah Zarah
Avot (also known as Pirkei Avot, Ethics of the Fathers)
Horayot
Kodashim (Holy Things), dealing with sacrifices and the Temple
Zevachim
Menachot
Chullin
Bekhorot
Arakhin
Temurah
Keritot
Meilah
Tamid
Middot
Qinnim
Toharot (Purities), dealing with laws of ritual purity and impurity
Kelim
Ohalot
Negaim
Parah
Tohorot
Miqvaot
Niddah
Makhshirin
Zabim
Tebul-Yom
Yadayim
Uqsin
In recent times, many observant Jews have taken up the practice of studying a page of Talmud every day. This practice, referred to as daf yomi, was started at the First International Congress of the Agudath Yisrael World Movement in August, 1923. Rav Meir Shapiro, the rav of Lublin, Poland, proposed uniting people worldwide through the daily study of a page of Talmud. Daf Yomi is currently in its 11th cycle. A calendar of the cycle can be found at Daf Yomi Calendar.
Other Writings
In addition to these works, we have midrashim, which are basically stories expanding on incidents in the Bible to derive principles or Jewish law or to teach moral lessons. For example, there is a midrash about why Moses wasn't a good speaker (he put coals in his mouth as a child basically as a way of proving that he wasn't greedy), and another one about Abram discovering monotheism and rejecting his father's idolatry (that's a nifty one: basically, he smashes up all his father's idols except the big one, then blames the mess on the big one, as a way of showing his father that the idols don't really have any power). Some of them fill in gaps in the narrative. For example, in Gen. 22:2, why does G-d say, "thy son, thine only son, whom thou lovest, even Isaac." Wouldn't the name alone be enough? One story says that the narrative is skipping out Abraham's responses. "Take thy son." "Which one?" "Thine only son." "But I have two!" "Whom thou lovest." "I love them both!" "Even Isaac." (I'm not sure this is a traditional one -- I got it from a questionable source -- but I like it).
There is also a vast body of responsa, answers to specific questions of Jewish law. Beginning in the middle ages, when local rabbis were faced with difficult issues of Jewish law, they often wrote to the most respected rabbis in the world to get answers to these questions. The local rabbi would present the situation, often including detailed references to the Talmudic passages he had reviewed and his own interpretations of these authorities, and the world-renowned rabbi would provide a reasoned argument in favor of his answer. Over time, these responsa were collected into printed volumes. This tradition continues to the present day, and there are several rabbis in this century who have developed responsa on issues relating to modern technologies. For example, Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, who died in the 1980s, wrote responsa on such diverse topics as the permissibility of cosmetic surgery, the kashering of dishwashers, and artificial insemination. There are literally thousands of volumes of responsa. A project at Bar-Ilan University is compiling these responsa into a computer database. See their website at The Responsa Project for more information.
As you can see, the body of Jewish tradition is very vast. Is there any place to get quick answers? In the middle ages, there were several attempts to create definitive codes of Jewish law. The best-known of these codes are Rambam's Mishneh Torah and Joseph Caro's Shulchan Arukh. In their own time, these works were very controversial, because they did not identify the Torah or Talmudic basis for their opinions and generally ignored conflicting opinions. There was concern that such works would discourage Jews from studying the primary sources: Torah and Talmud. Today, however, these sources are well-respected. In fact, the Shulchan Arukh is often treated as a primary source.
We also have a mystical tradition, known as Kabbalah. The primary written work in the Kabbalistic tradition is the Zohar. Traditionally, rabbis discouraged teaching this material to anyone under the age of 40, because it is too likely to be misinterpreted by anyone without sufficient grounding in the basics.
http://www.torah.org/
The Written Law (The Torah)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_Written_Law.html
The Written Law consists of the books of the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh. The term "Bible" is more commonly used by non-Jews, as are the terms "Old Testament" and "New Testament." The appropriate term for Jews to use for the Hebrew Bible is "Tanakh." Tanakh is an acronym for Torah, Nevi'im (Prophets) and Ketuvim (Writings).
The Torah is also known as the Chumash, Pentateuch or Five Books of Moses. The word "Torah" has the following meanings:
1. A scroll made from kosher animal parchment, with the entire text of the Five Books of Moses written in it by a sofer [ritual scribe]. This is the most limited definition.
2. More often, this term means the text of the Five Books of Moses, written in any format, whether Torah scroll, paperback book, CDROM, skywriting or any other media. Any printed version of the Torah (with or without commentary) can be called a Chumash or Pentateuch; however, one never refers to a Torah Scroll as a Chumash.
3. The term "Torah" can mean the entire corpus of Jewish law. This includes the Written and the Oral Law, which includes the Mishna, the Midrash, the Talmud and even later day legal commentaries. This definition of Torah is probably the most common among Orthodox Jews. Usually you can figure out which definition is being used by the context.
Text of the Torah and Tanakh
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Billy Ruben Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:51 am
true lilly wrote:hey, not my fault 'they'/'you' keep digging pits
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:
and 'the rest of you'...
WAR CAVE: warkave: and 'the rest of you'...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1237-war-cave-warkave-and-the-rest-of-you#18568
...as to any real,
independent people who may stumble in here:
Why SOME HERE keep posting the same,
Unsubstantiated=PROVEN LIES,
as to, what and why, I post, what and how, I do;
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
...but nah,
the dergs are too busy hacking my posts,
to read them
el kabong wrote:First word: Torah = Instruction = The Tree of Life
'
Testimony from Yahshua Messiah/Jesus being tempted by Satan in the Desert Wilderness.
Book of Matthew 4
4 Then Yahshua/Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.
2And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.
3And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of Yahweh.’
1 TIMOTHY
8And we know that the Torah is good if one uses it legitimately,
2 TIMOTHY 3
13But evil men and impostors shall go on to the worse,d leading astray and being led astray.
14But you, stay in what you have learned and trusted, having known from whom you have learned,
15and that from a babe you have known the Set-apart Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for deliverance through belief in Messiah .
16All Scripture is breathed by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
17that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
6For among them are those who creep into households and captivate silly women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
What Lilly does not comprehend is that Yahshua and His Apostles were teaching the Torah/Instruction of YHWH to Jews and Gentiles alike. Yahshua was universalizing Torah/Instruction.
http://www.sabbath-day.com/f0501c.html
The Law Defines the Righteousness of Christ
The fact that Christ kept the law in its perfect entirety is one of the main themes of Paul's writing. Indeed, this theme appears in his writing as one of the foundation stones for faith. Hebrews 4:15,16 is one of our most encouraging texts: "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and may find grace to help in time of need." Christ lived on earth "without sin". Because we know that "sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John. 3:4) and we know that Christ knew the law, we can safely deduce that Christ perfectly kept the law. Thus, we can look to the law to define the standard of Christ's righteousness.
1 John 3:7 tells us, "Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous." The Ten Commandments tell us what is righteousness, and the one who practices these things is righteous. We must remember that if any one of us could perfectly keep the law, that law would be counted as righteousness to us, as it was to Christ. As Romans 2:26 states, "If therefore the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?" Which is to say, even a Gentile who keeps the law perfectly is viewed by God as a perfect man--a true Jew.
Yet, not one of us has kept the law, "There is none righteous, not even one. . . . For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," (Rom. 3:10, 23) and not one of us CAN keep it--in our own strength. But, Christ DID keep the law perfectly, and so He has a righteousness which it is impossible for us to obtain through any works on our part. The beauty of the Gospel is that Jesus will give us HIS righteousness--even though we cannot earn it in any way--and God will view us through Christ's righteousness as though it were our own. As Philippians 3:9 states, "And may [I] be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith."
Now, we can fairly say that Jesus was justified by the works of the law. We read about this in Heb. 5:8,9 and 7:26,27: "Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation." "For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins, and then for the sins of the people." But, we can never be justified in that way, because we are sinners and all our works originate in sin. Unless Jesus covers our best efforts with His perfect righteousness, they are "as filthy rags". Jesus did what we have failed to do--He kept the law perfectly! Adam had the chance to be justified by the law, but he failed. Jesus passed over the same ground and succeeded.
Notice that Hebrews 5:8,9 informs us that Jesus was made perfect through obedience. We cannot be made perfect through obedience--we must be made perfect through faith. When we have faith, Jesus lives in us and His righteousness becomes ours. We live His life with His power, become obedient, and thus, perfect. But the end result is the same: perfect obedience to God's law.
The whole point of the Gospel is to restore in man the image of God, to bring man back into harmony with the principles of God's government as they are revealed in God's law. Thus, the central point of righteousness--be it Christ's or our own--is keeping the law. Only one who keeps the law is in harmony with God's government. Let no one deceive you. "So speak and so act, as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty." (James 2:12) That law is the standard of righteousness. Look to Christ to see how it may be kept.
Isaiah 8
8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
8:17 And I will wait upon Yahweh, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
8:18 Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their Elohim? for the living to the dead?
8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Any honest person can read the above scripture and see that anyone who teahes against YHWHs Torah/Instruction is a False Teacher. You can also plainly see that Mount Zion is in Israel. Anyone who tells you otherwise is being False. Beware of those who extract and deform Scripture. Scripture supports itself. A False Doctrine will be exposed by Scripture.
http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm
Torah
Level: Basic
• Torah in the narrowest sense refers to the first five books of the Bible
• In a broader sense, Torah includes all Jewish law and tradition
• Torah was given to Moses in written form with oral commentary
• The oral component is now written in the Talmud
• There are additional important writings
The word "Torah" is a tricky one, because it can mean different things in different contexts. In its most limited sense, "Torah" refers to the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. But the word "torah" can also be used to refer to the entire Jewish bible (the body of scripture known to non-Jews as the Old Testament and to Jews as the Tanakh or Written Torah), or in its broadest sense, to the whole body of Jewish law and teachings.
Written Torah
To Jews, there is no "Old Testament." The books that Christians call the New Testament are not part of Jewish scripture. The so-called Old Testament is known to us as Written Torah or the Tanakh.
This is a list of the books of Written Torah, in the order in which they appear in Jewish translations, with the Hebrew name of the book, a translation of the Hebrew name (where it is not the same as the English name), and English names of the books (where it is not the same as the Hebrew name). The Hebrew names of the first five books are derived from the first few words of the book. The text of each book is more or less the same in Jewish translations as what you see in Christian bibles, although there are some occasional, slight differences in the numbering of verses and there are some significant differences in the translations.
TORAH (The Law):
Bereishith (In the beginning...) (Genesis)
Shemoth (The names...) (Exodus)
Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)
Bamidbar (In the wilderness...) (Numbers)
Devarim (The words...) (Deuteronomy)
NEVI'IM (The Prophets):
Yehoshua (Joshua)
Shoftim (Judges)
Shmuel (I &II Samuel)
Melakhim (I & II Kings)
Yeshayah (Isaiah)
Yirmyah (Jeremiah)
Yechezqel (Ezekiel)
The Twelve (treated as one book)
Hoshea (Hosea)
Yoel (Joel)
Amos
Ovadyah (Obadiah)
Yonah (Jonah)
Mikhah (Micah)
Nachum
Chavaqquq (Habbakkuk)
Tzefanyah (Zephaniah)
Chaggai
Zekharyah (Zechariah)
Malakhi
KETHUVIM (The Writings):
Tehillim (Psalms)
Mishlei (Proverbs)
Iyov (Job)
Shir Ha-Shirim (Song of Songs)
Ruth
Eikhah (Lamentations)
Qoheleth (the author's name) (Ecclesiastes)
Esther
Daniel
Ezra & Nechemyah (Nehemiah) (treated as one book)
Divrei Ha-Yamim (The words of the days) (Chronicles)
Written Torah is often referred to as the Tanakh, which is an acrostic of Torah, Nevi'im and Ketuvim.
Torah Scrolls
The scriptures that we use in services are written on parchment scrolls. They are always hand-written, in attractive Hebrew calligraphy with "crowns" (crows-foot-like marks coming up from the upper points) on many of the letters. This style of writing is known as STA"M (an abbreviation for "Sifrei Torah, Tefillin and Mezuzot," which is where you will see that style of writing). For more information about the STA"M alphabet, including illustrations and relevant rules, see Hebrew Alphabet used in writing STA"M.
You are not supposed to touch the parchment on these scrolls; some say because they are too holy; some say because the parchment, made from animal skins, is a source of ritual defilement; others say because your fingers' sweat has acids that will damage the parchment over time. Instead, you follow the text with a pointer, called a Yad. "Yad" means "hand" in Hebrew, and the pointer usually is in the shape of a hand with a pointing index finger (I always find this incredibly amusing). The scrolls are kept covered with fabric, and often ornamented with silver crowns on the handles of the scrolls and a silver breastplate on the front.
The scrolls are kept in a cabinet in the synagogue called an "ark," as in Ark of the Covenant, not as in Noah's Ark. The words are different and unrelated in Hebrew. Noah's ark (and also the ark that Moses was placed in) are called in Hebrew teyvat (ship). I was taught that the "Ark" of the Covenant and the ark in synagogue are an acrostic of "aron kodesh" (holy cabinet), but others have told me that it is merely an archaic English word derived from the Latin arca (cabinet).
The Torah scrolls that we read from in synagogue are unpointed text, with no vowels or musical notes, so the ability to read a passage from a scroll is a valuable skill, and usually requires substantial advance preparation (reviewing the passage in a text with points). See Hebrew Alphabet for more on pointed and unpointed texts.
Chumash
Jewish scriptures are sometimes bound in a form that corresponds to the division into weekly readings (called parshiyot in Hebrew). Scriptures bound in this way are generally referred to as a chumash. The word "chumash" comes from the Hebrew word meaning five, and refers to the five books of the Torah. Sometimes, a chumash is simply refers to a collection of the five books of the Torah. But often, a chumash contains the entire first five books, divided up by the weekly parshiyot, with the haftarah portion inserted after each week's parshah.
Oral Torah: The Talmud
In addition to the written scriptures we have an "Oral Torah," a tradition explaining what the above scriptures mean and how to interpret them and apply the Laws. Orthodox Jews believe G-d taught the Oral Torah to Moses, and he taught it to others, down to the present day. This tradition was maintained only in oral form until about the 2d century C.E., when the oral law was compiled and written down in a document called the Mishnah.
Over the next few centuries, additional commentaries elaborating on the Mishnah were written down in Jerusalem and Babylon. These additional commentaries are known as the Gemara. The Gemara and the Mishnah together are known as the Talmud. This was completed in the 5th century C.E.
There are actually two Talmuds: the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud is more comprehensive, and is the one most people mean if they just say "the Talmud" without specifying which one.
There have been additional commentaries on the Talmud by such noted Jewish scholars as Rashi and Rambam. Adin Steinsaltz is currently preparing a new edition of the Talmud, with his own commentary supplementing the Mishnah, Gemara, and Rashi commentaries.
The Talmud is not easy to read. It reminds me of someone else's class notes for a college lecture you never attended. There are often gaps in the reasoning where it is assumed that you already know what they are talking about, and concepts are often expressed in a sort of shorthand. Biblical verses that support a teaching are often referenced by only two or three words. The Talmud preserves a variety of views on every issue, and does not always clearly identify which view is the accepted one.
The Mishnah is divided into six sections called sedarim (in English, orders). Each seder contains one or more divisions called masekhtot (in English, tractates). There are 63 masekhtot in the Mishnah. Approximately half of these masekhtot have been addressed in the Talmud. Although these divisions seem to indicate subject matter, it is important to note that the Mishnah and the Talmud engage in quite a bit of free-association, thus widely diverse subjects may be discussed in a seder or masekhtah. Below is the division of the Mishnah into sedarim and masekhtot:
Zera'im (Seeds), dealing with agricultural laws
Berakhot
Peah
Demai
Kilayim
Shebiit
Terumot
Maaserot
Maaser Sheni
Challah
Orlah
Bikkurim
Mo'ed (Festival), dealing with Shabbat and festivals
Shabbat
Erubin
Pesachim
Sheqalim
Yoma
Sukkah
Besah
Rosh Hashanah
Taanit
Megillah
Moed Qatan
Hagigah
Nashim (Women), dealing with marriage, divorce and contracts
Yebamot
Ketubot
Nedarim
Nazir
Sotah
Gittin
Qiddushin
Nezikin (Damages), dealing with tort laws and other financial laws
Baba Qamma
Baba Mesia
Baba Batra
Sanhedrin
Makkot
Shabuot
Eduyyot
Avodah Zarah
Avot (also known as Pirkei Avot, Ethics of the Fathers)
Horayot
Kodashim (Holy Things), dealing with sacrifices and the Temple
Zevachim
Menachot
Chullin
Bekhorot
Arakhin
Temurah
Keritot
Meilah
Tamid
Middot
Qinnim
Toharot (Purities), dealing with laws of ritual purity and impurity
Kelim
Ohalot
Negaim
Parah
Tohorot
Miqvaot
Niddah
Makhshirin
Zabim
Tebul-Yom
Yadayim
Uqsin
In recent times, many observant Jews have taken up the practice of studying a page of Talmud every day. This practice, referred to as daf yomi, was started at the First International Congress of the Agudath Yisrael World Movement in August, 1923. Rav Meir Shapiro, the rav of Lublin, Poland, proposed uniting people worldwide through the daily study of a page of Talmud. Daf Yomi is currently in its 11th cycle. A calendar of the cycle can be found at Daf Yomi Calendar.
Other Writings
In addition to these works, we have midrashim, which are basically stories expanding on incidents in the Bible to derive principles or Jewish law or to teach moral lessons. For example, there is a midrash about why Moses wasn't a good speaker (he put coals in his mouth as a child basically as a way of proving that he wasn't greedy), and another one about Abram discovering monotheism and rejecting his father's idolatry (that's a nifty one: basically, he smashes up all his father's idols except the big one, then blames the mess on the big one, as a way of showing his father that the idols don't really have any power). Some of them fill in gaps in the narrative. For example, in Gen. 22:2, why does G-d say, "thy son, thine only son, whom thou lovest, even Isaac." Wouldn't the name alone be enough? One story says that the narrative is skipping out Abraham's responses. "Take thy son." "Which one?" "Thine only son." "But I have two!" "Whom thou lovest." "I love them both!" "Even Isaac." (I'm not sure this is a traditional one -- I got it from a questionable source -- but I like it).
There is also a vast body of responsa, answers to specific questions of Jewish law. Beginning in the middle ages, when local rabbis were faced with difficult issues of Jewish law, they often wrote to the most respected rabbis in the world to get answers to these questions. The local rabbi would present the situation, often including detailed references to the Talmudic passages he had reviewed and his own interpretations of these authorities, and the world-renowned rabbi would provide a reasoned argument in favor of his answer. Over time, these responsa were collected into printed volumes. This tradition continues to the present day, and there are several rabbis in this century who have developed responsa on issues relating to modern technologies. For example, Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, who died in the 1980s, wrote responsa on such diverse topics as the permissibility of cosmetic surgery, the kashering of dishwashers, and artificial insemination. There are literally thousands of volumes of responsa. A project at Bar-Ilan University is compiling these responsa into a computer database. See their website at The Responsa Project for more information.
As you can see, the body of Jewish tradition is very vast. Is there any place to get quick answers? In the middle ages, there were several attempts to create definitive codes of Jewish law. The best-known of these codes are Rambam's Mishneh Torah and Joseph Caro's Shulchan Arukh. In their own time, these works were very controversial, because they did not identify the Torah or Talmudic basis for their opinions and generally ignored conflicting opinions. There was concern that such works would discourage Jews from studying the primary sources: Torah and Talmud. Today, however, these sources are well-respected. In fact, the Shulchan Arukh is often treated as a primary source.
We also have a mystical tradition, known as Kabbalah. The primary written work in the Kabbalistic tradition is the Zohar. Traditionally, rabbis discouraged teaching this material to anyone under the age of 40, because it is too likely to be misinterpreted by anyone without sufficient grounding in the basics.
http://www.torah.org/
The Written Law (The Torah)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_Written_Law.html
The Written Law consists of the books of the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh. The term "Bible" is more commonly used by non-Jews, as are the terms "Old Testament" and "New Testament." The appropriate term for Jews to use for the Hebrew Bible is "Tanakh." Tanakh is an acronym for Torah, Nevi'im (Prophets) and Ketuvim (Writings).
The Torah is also known as the Chumash, Pentateuch or Five Books of Moses. The word "Torah" has the following meanings:
1. A scroll made from kosher animal parchment, with the entire text of the Five Books of Moses written in it by a sofer [ritual scribe]. This is the most limited definition.
2. More often, this term means the text of the Five Books of Moses, written in any format, whether Torah scroll, paperback book, CDROM, skywriting or any other media. Any printed version of the Torah (with or without commentary) can be called a Chumash or Pentateuch; however, one never refers to a Torah Scroll as a Chumash.
3. The term "Torah" can mean the entire corpus of Jewish law. This includes the Written and the Oral Law, which includes the Mishna, the Midrash, the Talmud and even later day legal commentaries. This definition of Torah is probably the most common among Orthodox Jews. Usually you can figure out which definition is being used by the context.
Text of the Torah and Tanakh
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true lilly wrote:Considering these points (below),
WHY have CONspiracy Forum overlords and trolls,
united to attack one real person who dared to ask
THE QUESTION: why does a world of opposing, waring
religions, INSIST that The One Thing we Must all believe
is the obviously absurd, 'out of Egypt' 'time line',
when Science Agrees with what GOD'S WORD ACTUALLY
DESCRIBES, and anyone who cares to, can actually
read up on and check for themselves?To silence anyone who twigsSod-Haus...!!! wrote:Why So Many Moderators On The David Icke Forum...???
'Free Speech Zones' Killing Free Speech Across Orwellian America
Thursday, 26 May 2011 08:15
Some David Icke Quotes...A gift of truth is the gift of love.
David Icke
And
why do we, who say we oppose tyranny and demand freedom of speech,
allow people to go to prison and be vilified, and magazines to be closed
down on the spot, for suggesting another version of history.
David Icke
Everyone is a son or daughter of god.
David Icke
Have you ever wondered what your subconscious mind looks like? Well today, I can show you.
David Icke
I am a channel for the Christ spirit. The title was given to me very recently by the Godhead.
David Icke
I
believe that the human race has developed a form of collective
schizophrenia in which we are not only the slaves to this imposed
thought behavior, but we are also the police force of it.
David Icke
I
couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at. It
was a nightmare. My children were devastated because their dad was a
figure of ridicule.
David Icke
I know that you are
part of me and I am part of you because we are all aspects of the same
infinite consciousness that we call God and Creation.
David Icke
In
the Atlantean period there were many energies being used and
information and knowledge being used which were, for particular reasons
of safety, withdrawn, shall we say, to prevent complete catastrophe, to
prevent total destruction of your planet.
David Icke
Infinite love is the only truth. Everything else is illusion.
David Icke
One
of my very greatest fears as a child was being ridiculed in public. And
there it was coming true. As a television presenter, I'd been
respected. People come up to you in the street and shake your hand and
talk to you in a respectful way.
David Icke
So reports of my madness, as they say, were greatly exaggerated. Not that I give a bugger either way.
David Icke
The best way of removing negativity is to laugh and be joyous.
David Icke
The Earth needs rebels!
David Icke
The
reason most people don't express their individuality and actually deny
it, is not fear of what prime ministers think of us or the head of the
federal reserve, It's what their families and their friends down at the
bar are going to think of them.
David Icke
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut, that held its ground.
David Icke
This One Seems A Bit Familiar...And
why do we, who say we oppose tyranny and demand freedom of speech,
allow people to go to prison and be vilified, and magazines to be closed
down on the spot, for suggesting another version of history.
David Icke
Seems To Be Plagarised From Bertrand RussellAdvocates
of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of
liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be
restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.
Bertrand Russell
Still Odd That There Is So Many Moderators And Forum Advisors etc... There...!!!
I Suppose Sitting On Ones Arse For 10 Hours A Day,
Could Be...
"Being The Change You Want To See In The World"
Well At A Stretch Or A Suspension Of Disbeleif...!!!
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=179768
that 'David Icke' lives on
PLANET EVIL LYING LOON...
"... total destruction of your planet. "
David Icke
"The Earth needs rebels! "
David Icke
"And why do we, who say we oppose tyranny
and demand freedom of
speech, allow people to go to prison
and be vilified, and magazines
to be closed down on the spot,
for suggesting another version of history."
David Icke
Gee, funny that...that
EVERY VERSION of 'history' IS OUT THERE,
being SOLD in books, magazines, movies,
newspapers, NET Forums...
EVERY VERSION EXCEPT
What GOD DESCRIBED and
SCIENCE AGREES WITH...
that DOES GET SHUT DOWN,
SHOUTED DOWN, SHOT DOWN,
and CHASED DOWN and
BASHED to near death
by "tintin's" THUG tools and
Targeted by CAR BOMBS...
...but 'they' still can't kill it!
true lilly wrote:stop messing with my posts and I'll talk...otherwise...
...mmm...again, DIF won't let me in,
to get the introduction to this post,
but this will do for now...going back,
around the blockage, to go forward...tintin wrote:25-10-2007
An angel from OZ.....
And this angel is born 13 may...13 May 1961=my birthday, in O'Zion...
13 - 5 - 1861 -
Great Comet of 1861 discovered in Australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Comet_of_1861
...and check out the detail,
chock full of "tintin's" favourite,
"it's the end of world", Code Keys...
...meaning HE FEARS it's, The End of His WorldLY Ways...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=171003&postcount=263
...could that have something to do with why he doesn't spam it,
like he does his other favorites, such as "dial M for murder",
and other NON-News, Coded Plot Orders
true lilly wrote:For starters, the ONE thing 'they' change
is the first word,
in 'their' SATANIC PREACHING,
from, Think! to Think!,
because THINKING IS THE LAST THING
'they' "REQUIRE" FROM YOU!
I've left that as 'ninny' posted but have highlighted
the lies and deceptions designed to
twist YOUR THINKING
INTO THEIR SATANIC DOCTRINES:ninny wrote: 11-08-2011, 06:32 AM #30101
ninny
8811
Charles Manson telephoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3dfzTcfEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMAMRFE6ajo
notice he speaks of "The mark of the Beast"
Quote:
source
Charles Manson replies to concerns about a “New World Order” (Letter - July, 2011)
Think! If a body (person) lies and was raised and taught to lie, and
lies to self and lives with others who can't be truthful, how can they
even know what knowing is or is not? How can they even understand the
words and/or thoughts made up by the words? They are play-acting movies
and TV game shows.(HOW? Through TRUSTING GOD'S WORD,
as HE HAS PROVEN that HE CAN'T LIE!)
You use the words "World Order", and you have thoughts in your head that
came from someone else, that you don't even know what is or is not.
You can't even use your own brain because others ‘been doing your
thinking, and you haven't even been born in Truth. (I HAVE, why I DO KNOW THE NEXT BIT IS ALSO A BALD FACED LIE!)You were born 1000
and million-million light years old, but are trapped in the body others
needed you to be, play, and carry the cross for – you don't even know
what stupid is. ('ninny', TEAM TINTIN, ICKEST'S OBVIOUSLY DON'T!) And it would take 10 lifetimes running backwards through school to blink one eye.(MORE senseless dribble to KEEP YOU OFF BALANCE!)
(and here, 'pure' TINTIN/ICKE=SATANIC RELIGIOUS PREACHING...)
There is only one. One world is like – all water is one water. Real
order is one. One is all, all and one is zero, nothing, and everything.
World is already in its order.(TRYING to SPIN THAT TO ENGLAND, NOW? HOW BLOODY STUPID!) What you're talking and thinking is
brainwash – ‘use your own head’ would mean being reborn ('he/they' MEANS YOU MUST DIE First!)and not picking the same old thoughts back up.
Order is true in itself as it is. First is air. Air- without air
there is no life on earth as I know and live it. (a DEAD Give Away,
AND WHAT I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR POSTING THE TRUTH OF; air=oxygen=rust=DEATH=PRINCE of The AIR=DEATH,
BUT 'they' IGNORE those millions of years ago when LIFE EXISTED
ON EARTH, BEFORE OXYGEN FORMED and DEATH had NOT YET
ENTERED THIS AGE of THIS SYSTEM of Things!)To destroy or distort
air is out of order ('they' MEAN SATAN IS SO WEAK HE NEEDS US TO DIE TRYING TO PROTECT HIM)– governments, money churches, none of that means anything. The people of the Earth world are so warped, distorted,
twisted, and filled with lies and fear, confusion, doubt, and cover-ups,
greed, so on and on - that they can't see it if you show them.(NOT ALL,
WE THANK GOD! But THAT IS WHAT 'they' BELIEVE OF YOU!)
For over 100 years, people have been trying to show the commands that
Air Is First, and not to use gas in the World Wars I and II. But
people say; "How long before all the air on earth is gone, over, and
all life is over?"… “100 years”… and the same with the order of where
air comes from; trees, green things, water and its order.(still BEGGING WE DIE TO KEEP THE PRINCE of DEATH 'alive')
Money and fear, sex and other levels of the world orders of death speak
louder.(LIE! But 'they' DO CONTROL WEB/NET Forums and SILENCE those who THREATEN 'their' WEAK lord death) And real and truth is covered-up, lost from the real by the
cover-ups of the unreal, and who gives a fucks rule. And the sellouts
win again and time goes on and on, dragging the real order up and down,
under and over, around in circles.
(SHIT! TINTIN'S VERY OWN, SO OFTEN REPEATED Excuse for why he doesn't have the balls to WALK AWAY from HIS DEMONIC LUSTS, and
PREACHES OUT OF BITTERNESS because he doesn't have the balls to FACE HIS MAKER ALONE, which HE WILL!)
A lot of people say they would die before they would do this or that,(more
than 'say' I've proven it time and time again, and doesn't that just
show what WEAK, BITTER FOOLS 'they' ARE, that 'they' have only managed
to NEARLY KILL ME, so far...) and
they got ways they say they believe and want change. Then, when no
one's looking, they're sucking on it or doing and going where they told
and made someone do their will – that's not order, that's disorder = out
of order. And that kind of thought and behavior covers up the real
order of (more confusing, HYPNOTIC dribble to drive home, FIX 'their' Coded Order...) the ‘do or die’ Order. (ORDERING SENSELESS SLAUGHTERS)
You're in a room, a car is running, and oil is destroying your air.
Order says, "Turn the car off or give up the air". That's got nothing
to do with 'will you suck or not suck?' There are people who would go
to
war and destroy their own world, children, and self before they would
or could be truthful with what's inside their own minds' order.(THOSE
PEOPLE ARE TINTIN, ASSANGE, ICKE and ALL THOSE GURUS of The Father of
The Lie and Death, who ARE ALL TOO WEAK TO DEBATE ME, and little woman
of NO WORLDLY POWER or CONNECTIONS!)
I worked and got you… (established –ed.)(his
coded CREDIT TO HIS MASTERS that INVENTED his persona, gave him his
orders and CONTINUE TO PREACH THROUGH HIM VIA HIS 'Industry') and…and just like Boston Irish people, you were lying so you could make movies and dump it back on someone else.
I forgot the rest of this.(see above, forgot his orders) It's without real reasons because there is no one left over from the last cross boss.
Easy
Charles Manson
Last edited by ninny; 11-08-2011 at 06:34 AM.
...now lets look at
"that" source...nothing much at all,
then click on Home...
THE "home" 'they' WANT YOU DEVOTED TO!
...and I CAN'T SHOW YOU, BECAUSE
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S
are VERY HEAVILY PROTECTED...in This,
CRUMBLING DYING Worldly System, because
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S,
are also CRUMBLING and DYING and CAN'T,
stand open and free to even the simplest scrutiny!
...and while poor 'billy' is still hanging on to his delusion
that anyone who matters, is buying that rusty old attack
weapon i.e. his off topic spam, spammed through all my threads,
in an lame effort to re-bury the facts already long out there,
with his spam of cat spam, sex spam, porn spam, spam spam,
accusing me of spamming (but containing no counter to
what he tells readers to ignore), somehow isn't isn't spam...
...but my contextual, related, evidence, re-gathered
(from between all 'their' spam
studying, writing, and providing links for readers to check,
while consistently building a solid case, that none of 'them'
has ever even come close to debunking, somehow is...
...we'll add some more context, shall we...this from after
the above post was posted...when 'they' also removed
all my format tools...oh, they're back now, but the point
is better made, when one compares what I was allowed
to post, with the original in the link it contains...
...mmm...for some reason, the number (27)
keeps coming up, as a few have noticed...
...so 'doing a dixie d', I thought I'd look up
that page number of "tintin's" thread, from
way back before he realized, that converting
me, from the freedom of my faith in the Holy,
Living Father and His Holy, Living Word, was,
simply impossible.......mmm...interesting,true lilly wrote:25-10-2007, 11:08 AM #263
'they' have 'killed' the link...oh well, here's the page link:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=27
...and how 'cute' now 'they've' removed all my format tools, here.true lilly wrote:25-10-2007, 11:08 AM #263tintin wrote:
Originally Posted by tintin View Post
ROCKY BALBOA SCORES
FOR REAL MADRID.
The biggest club in the world. And yesterday Javier Balboa
scored in the 90th minute.
that's the last minute.
His nick is ROCKY BALBOA.
BALBOA scored in the
last minute. His first goal ever.
What does that mean?
Rocky Balboa is Stallone is GEORGE BUSH.
they are born exactly the same day.
So BALBOA is scoring in the 90th minute.
The number 9 means COMPLETION.
The SATANISTS are finished with their preperations.
They are ready for WAR.
But for those that CAN HEAR and that CAN SEE.
SATAN runs this "material" world but it is GOD
that is in control.
Serve GOD and he will serve you.
And god let's us know once in a while.
Because the football player ROCKY BALBOA tells us
with his full name.
Javier ANGEL balboa OSA.
An angel from OZ.....
And this angel is born 13 may...
13 - 5 - 1861 -
Great Comet of 1861 discovered in Australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Comet_of_1861
The Great Comet of 1861 formally designated C/1861 J1 and 1861 II,
was a comet that was visible to the naked eye for approximately 3 months.
It was categorized as a Great Comet, one of eight in the 19th century.
It was discovered by John Tebbutt
of Windsor, New South Wales, Australia,
on May 13, 1861,
with an apparent magnitude of 4,
a month before perihelion (June 11).
It was not visible in the northern hemisphere
until June 29,
but it arrived before word of the comet's discovery.
The comet of 1861 interacted with the Earth
in an almost unprecedented way.
For two days, when the comet was at its closest (0.1326 AU),
the Earth was actually within the comet's tail,
and streams of cometary material converging
towards the distant nucleus could be seen.
By day also the comet's gas and dust even obscured the Sun.
(not that it means anything to me,
except that it took until very recently,
for me to stumble across this;
odd BECAUSE I'm an AUSSIE who was born
EXACTLY 100 Years later,
and as a kid, I could have done with ANYTHING
better than mother's first word's at my birth,
"OH GOD why wasn't IT born DEAD!",
to associate with my Birthday)
...psst...ninny nongs....it's all already out there,
on public and secret record...trying to hide it now,
only further shows how weak and shit scared you are...
...talk about an 'own goal'...
...I'd laugh, but you disabled my smilies to...rolls eyes...pokes out tongue...giggles...
...but on a deadly serious note...why would anyone with a quarter of a brain,
seriously believe and trust, these back-stabbing idiots, to deliver them victory
in The War Against The Creator God...when even an unconnected nobody who
left school at 14, can and does, so easily through them?
What, are some of 'you' still forgetting to "listen to what I 'don't' say"?
What, 'your' over lord and master the prince of death, hasn't showed 'you' how?
Gee, 'you' lose again, with 'your' insane choice of 'god' that 'you' slave to death for.
____________
Now reading on from this page:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=27
(a very telling page
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=28
Quote:
Ye i got that just thought the key -
Originally Posted by vera susa
Oh, and 2013, I was referring to those who
BELIEVE that REAL life IS as in "The Matrix",
not those who twig onto the many layers of
CODED MESSAGES it contains...basic rule of thumb;
if it's "Global Water Cool Talk, worthy",
it's loaded with KEYS for
SECRET CONVERSATIONS in Public Places....
they don't really run off to personal little "CONES of SILENCE"
when something "BIG" has to be imparted
to "FELLOW BROTHERS & SISTERS".
anu bit was relevant as well as the may tricks,
seeing all the movie links here its the modern art form
and the medium they use which as in films and books
such as the da vinci code they can't help but reveal to us,
just like the movie bad guys give away the plot
when they think they are winning, and we all know
what happens to themtintin wrote:25-10-2007, 11:50 AM #271
Prince WILLEM ALEXANDER
is a JOCKEY.
When he goes INCONGNITO
he uses the name W.A. van Buren. (One of
his titles is count of Buren)
W.A. van Buren.
ARMIN van Buuren.
born CHRISTMAS day, voted
best DISC-JOCKEY in the WORLD.
And he is ARMIN.
the DEVIL is ARMING himself now. So he
prepares for ACTION.
He gives us the "SHIVERS".
Just watch and see events unfold.
And see the Jockey symbolism.
The HORSES. The ENDTIMES....
Quote:
Strange indeed, seeing as I was after a story about a racehorse...
Originally Posted by kallista
Strange we both posted items about Spain at the same time Vera, although
some Mallorcans would argue Mallorca is not Spain. Juan Carlos, a very
popular monarch, also has a residence in Mallorca, Juan Carlos the man who murdered his own brother, accidentally of course!
who's name just happens to tie into that second link I posted on Spain...
and found the Condi story I nearly skipped, 'til I saw the "CODE PINK"....
but this is what kept happening to 'Cruise' and I since way back in the
"The Forum" days,
and that wasn't even when we working on a current news thread, just what
was "calling" us in many little personal ways, to "PAY ATTENTION!"
And I'm sure, like me if you ever go back and read over old stuff,
you'll find "SEE" things that only "nagged at you" at the time,
but make very clear sense now or later.
See, "They" 'talk' about being open minded, we do it...
leaving those 'mental file draws' open for easy access when the work floods in,
and slow sorting during the quite times.
And as you know, sometimes you just
have to "Junk stuff" that you find was
'sending you broke', but you'll leave a reminder in that file,
to refuse to accept 'work from that source' again.
Quote:
Yep guys, I too am more a 'words and patterns' person,
Originally Posted by kallista
Oh yes, although maths was never my strong point, I'm more of a reader myself. I'm glad some people are paying attention.
which is why it's so productive working with "numbers man"
tintin....oh damn I miss our 'old names'...anyway....so though
I don't tend to figure the 'equations', I notice WORDS like,
"MORE THAN", "ABOUT", "UP TO" etc.
when they are in 'news' "STORIES".
Remember the old rule of writing NEWS REPORTS?
Who, What, When, Where and Why.
Well seems that only applies to ANY of those "W's" these days,
IF they fit "Their" 'Message', and "BUGGER THE FACTS, MA'AM."
_____________________
And WHO Is 'The Master' 'Journalist'
with The MONSTER 18 Million VIEW thread
at David Icke Official Forum,
'in' "TODAY'S NEWS" Section, 'under' The Title:
"The NEWS Behind The NEWS", Yet IGNORES
FACTUAL NEWS REPORTS like the plague,
UNLESS it's to VERY SELECTIVELY take, twist, flip
and re-arrange "letters and NUMBERS"
to 'magically' MAKE HIS 'links' to VERY OLD
but CURRENT CODE LOADED, Movies,
music, books and other DARK "ARTS"...true lilly wrote: 25-10-2007, 02:33 PM #283
Well it was a "NOT News", 'news' STORY,
Originally Posted by 2013
i kept repeating that grain of rice
sized tazmanian devil story to people yesterday ,maybe theres
something growing in that story as well , errol flynn captain blood !
FEATURED by the BBC, so YOU KNOW there HAS to be
"something in it", and I think I'm getting close....
Flynn was a member of
Hollywood's Cricket Club,
along with David Niven.
Errol Flynn
as
Capt. Nelson
in
Operation Burma !
Objective, Burma! (1945)
The movie was pulled from release
and banned in Britain
after heated protest ...
What sets "Operation Burma" apart
is its concentration on the humanity of ...
www.imdb.com/title/tt0037954/ - 43k
The Burma Campaign
was a campaign in
the South-East Asian
Theatre of
World War II.
It was fought primarily between
British Empire, Chinese and American forces
against
the forces of the Empire of Japan,
(ALLIED WITH GERMANY!)
the Burmese Independence Army
and the Indian National Army.
British Empire forces (often simply referred to as "British")
were drawn from the United Kingdom, British India,
and other parts of the empire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_Campaign(...
DIRECTLY LINK, the above with...)
WILLIAM PRINCE!!!!(...but, 'primarily'=they always left out The ANZAC'S,
MAJOR, WAR TURNING, FORCES, in EVERY KEY WAR
since the 'Birth' of Modern Australia)
It was fought primarily between
British Empire, Chinese and American forces
against
the forces of the Empire of Japan,
(ALLIED WITH GERMANY!)
the Burmese Independence Army
and the Indian National Army.
Burmese monks' protests escalate
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7002732.stm
Monks,
supporters offer prayers
for Burma's Suu Kyi
Oct 25, 2007 04:30 AM
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/270273
Burmese Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi
was celebrated as prayers were sung and monks
in saffron robes chanted for her freedom
beneath the statute of Winston Churchill
at Toronto's City Hall.
"The happy news is that the Parliament of Canada
just recently named Aung San Suu Kyi as
an honorary Canadian citizen,"
Minthura Wynn told the crowd of about 100 supporters last night.
"But this is not enough.
What is the political measure?
Are we going to impose economic sanctions?
Are we going to support humanitarian assistance
for the people in Burma?" Wynn asked the crowd,
some of whom held candles or carried "Free Burma" signs.
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from no one ever there, to the same regular numbers...doing the same,
job...of 'watching'?... for...???
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Billy Ruben Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:41 pm
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...
How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.
Quote: I Am
Jase,
I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.
I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.
Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.
I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.
How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that
I THANK YOU
ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...
THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...
Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?
I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
and just to let the discerning reader know...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...
What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???
Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???
Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.
You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be thatBilly Ruben wrote:
So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'......
... or you could simply
...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go,
your own kind...I can't even pity you...
Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...
Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...
No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.
DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...
Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...
So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?
From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________
true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________
quote:Billy Ruben
your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________
Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.
This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...
the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!
sucked in...you make me ill...
True Lilly,puts her foot in it:Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.
The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...
THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...
Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:42 pm
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...
How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.
Quote: I Am
Jase,
I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.
I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.
Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.
I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.
How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that
I THANK YOU
ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...
THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...
Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?
I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
and just to let the discerning reader know...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...
What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???
Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???
Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.
You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be thatBilly Ruben wrote:
So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'...
... or you could simply
...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go,
your own kind...I can't even pity you...
Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...
Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...
No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.
DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...
Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...
So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?
From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________
true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________
quote:Billy Ruben
your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________
Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.
This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...
the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!
sucked in...you make me ill...
True Lilly,puts her foot in it:Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.
The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...
THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...
Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:30 pm
I suppose that local 'animal liber' from Ballarat,
who 'works' on the David Icke Forum, now has to
HUNT DOWN 'Billy Ruben' AND Co...what am I saying,
that would only be the case if any of 'them' cared to
be credible, more than 'they' LOVE DOING EVIL...
hee hee...'Billy' must have run out of phone credit
as well as any personal credibility...he's only spamming
to bury my posts now, and not flooding my phone with
text threats...after I let him know, there was a visable
hack left on my phone...oh no, I was wrong...
he's reading 'live' again...
here comes another one...
...and what did the beastly sod have to say this time?
TELL YOU TO "DENY GOD".
THE SAME SODS who
TORTURE and KILL CATS
...and MUCH WORSE...
because, 'their' ONLY 'power'
is MURDEROUSLY SUICIDAL,
while GOD'S POWER,
CREATES, SUSTAINS, SAVES
and RESURRECTS LIFE.
So, another 'own goal' from 'billy'...
...GREAT SALES PITCH...but wasted,
as I don't sell, what God Freely Gives!
[quote="true lilly"]So, how many more years of 'them' proving to be wrong,
and having No Counter Argument to what God's Word
Clearly Describes, before anyone else actually gets it?
ISAIAH 40:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=40&v=1&t=KJV#top
9
Make your way up even onto a high mountain, you
woman bringing good news for Zion.
Raise your voice even with power, you
woman bringing good news for Jerusalem.
Raise [it]. Do not be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah: “Here is YOUR God.”
10
Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will
come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him.
Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him.
11
Like a shepherd he will shepherd his own drove.
With his arm he will collect together the lambs;
and in his bosom he will carry [them].
Those giving suck he will conduct [with care].
ISAIAH 51:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=51&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
“Listen to me, YOU people who are pursuing after righteousness,
YOU who are seeking to find Jehovah.
Look to the rock from which YOU were hewn out,
and to the hollow of the pit from which YOU were dug out.
2
Look to Abraham YOUR father and to Sarah
who gradually brought YOU forth with childbirth pains.
For he was one when I called him, and I proceeded to bless him
and to make him many.
3
For Jehovah will certainly comfort Zion.
He will for certain comfort all her devastated places,
and he will make her wilderness like E´den
and her desert plain like the garden of Jehovah.
Exultation and rejoicing themselves will be found in her,
thanksgiving and the voice of melody.
4
“Pay attention to me, O my people;
and you national group of mine, to me give ear.
For from me a law itself will go forth,
and my judicial decision I shall cause to repose
even as a light to the peoples.
5
My righteousness is near. My salvation will certainly go forth,
and my own arms will judge even the peoples. In me
the islands themselves will hope, and for my arm they will wait.
Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to,
One VERY big 'hint'
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by
true-lilly
Joined: 13-March 06
'Billy Ruben' ALSO THREATENED
MY ginger and white Cat,
RIGHT BEFORE The Neighbour's
ginger and white Cat WAS CRIPPLED
and LOST 1 1/2 of it's feet.
...'Billy'... flooding my phone with
text threats...here comes another one...
...and what did the beastly sod have to say this time?
TELL YOU TO "DENY GOD".
THE SAME SODS who
TORTURE and KILL CATS
...and MUCH WORSE...
because, 'their' ONLY 'power'
is MURDEROUSLY SUICIDAL,
while GOD'S POWER,
CREATES, SUSTAINS, SAVES
and RESURRECTS LIFE.
So, another 'own goal' from 'billy'...
...GREAT SALES PITCH...but wasted,
as I don't sell, what God Freely Gives!
who 'works' on the David Icke Forum, now has to
HUNT DOWN 'Billy Ruben' AND Co...what am I saying,
that would only be the case if any of 'them' cared to
be credible, more than 'they' LOVE DOING EVIL...
hee hee...'Billy' must have run out of phone credit
as well as any personal credibility...he's only spamming
to bury my posts now, and not flooding my phone with
text threats...after I let him know, there was a visable
hack left on my phone...oh no, I was wrong...
he's reading 'live' again...
here comes another one...
...and what did the beastly sod have to say this time?
yep, THIS IS THE ILK thatBilly Ruben wrote: yes, i hacked u and
going to kill u dog
TELL YOU TO "DENY GOD".
THE SAME SODS who
TORTURE and KILL CATS
...and MUCH WORSE...
because, 'their' ONLY 'power'
is MURDEROUSLY SUICIDAL,
while GOD'S POWER,
CREATES, SUSTAINS, SAVES
and RESURRECTS LIFE.
So, another 'own goal' from 'billy'...
...GREAT SALES PITCH...but wasted,
as I don't sell, what God Freely Gives!
[quote="true lilly"]So, how many more years of 'them' proving to be wrong,
and having No Counter Argument to what God's Word
Clearly Describes, before anyone else actually gets it?
ISAIAH 40:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=40&v=1&t=KJV#top
9
Make your way up even onto a high mountain, you
woman bringing good news for Zion.
Raise your voice even with power, you
woman bringing good news for Jerusalem.
Raise [it]. Do not be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah: “Here is YOUR God.”
10
Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will
come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him.
Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him.
11
Like a shepherd he will shepherd his own drove.
With his arm he will collect together the lambs;
and in his bosom he will carry [them].
Those giving suck he will conduct [with care].
ISAIAH 51:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=51&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
“Listen to me, YOU people who are pursuing after righteousness,
YOU who are seeking to find Jehovah.
Look to the rock from which YOU were hewn out,
and to the hollow of the pit from which YOU were dug out.
2
Look to Abraham YOUR father and to Sarah
who gradually brought YOU forth with childbirth pains.
For he was one when I called him, and I proceeded to bless him
and to make him many.
3
For Jehovah will certainly comfort Zion.
He will for certain comfort all her devastated places,
and he will make her wilderness like E´den
and her desert plain like the garden of Jehovah.
Exultation and rejoicing themselves will be found in her,
thanksgiving and the voice of melody.
4
“Pay attention to me, O my people;
and you national group of mine, to me give ear.
For from me a law itself will go forth,
and my judicial decision I shall cause to repose
even as a light to the peoples.
5
My righteousness is near. My salvation will certainly go forth,
and my own arms will judge even the peoples. In me
the islands themselves will hope, and for my arm they will wait.
Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to,
One VERY big 'hint'
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by
true-lilly
Joined: 13-March 06
true lilly wrote:Gee, funny that...thatDavid Icke wrote:"And why do we, who say we oppose tyranny
and demand freedom of
speech, allow people to go to prison
and be vilified, and magazines
to be closed down on the spot,
for suggesting another version of history."
David Icke
EVERY VERSION of 'history' IS OUT THERE,
being SOLD in books, magazines, movies,
newspapers, NET Forums...
EVERY VERSION EXCEPT
What GOD DESCRIBED and
SCIENCE AGREES WITH...
that DOES GET SHUT DOWN,
SHOUTED DOWN, SHOT DOWN,
and CHASED DOWN and
BASHED to near death
by "tintin's" THUG tools and
Targeted by CAR BOMBS...
...but 'they' still can't kill it!
"IT" being The Holy Spirit of The Truth of
God and His Living Word...
no matter how many innocent creatures
'they' KILL just to get off on, or God's faithful
'they' MURDER and send to their REST to AWAIT
their RESURRECTION to Perfect, deathless, LIFE.
true lilly wrote:Australian strength defies global woes
- Easy victory: Stoner wins Czech MotoGP
IMPRESSIVE profits by Australian companies
are persuading investors to look beyond their fear
as the global market convulses.
Near-double profit for Newcrest
NEWCREST Mining is expected
to post a 96 per cent leap
in underlying profit today
as stronger gold prices
more than offset production
disruptions.
Remember,true lilly wrote:Melbourne Uni a class act in world ranks
DAN HARRISON
Melbourne University leapfrogs
the Australian National University
to take the top Australian place
in a respected world ranking
of universities.
Families on the move to find room to grow
ANTONY LAWES
Upsizing on a budget means leaving the city behind.true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:
'There's no better place
than Australia'
By Malcolm Farr
WAYNE Swan says
Australia has a good economic story to tell
despite growing global uncertainty.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/national/treasurer-wayne-swan-tells-cabinet-to-talk-up-australias-economic-strengths/story-e6frg15u-1226115600493
IT will be "several years'' before
Europe and the United States
start adding significantly to
global economic wellbeing,
Treasurer Wayne Swan
told cabinet yesterday
in a jolting warning.
But Australia's trade with
China and India,
the new
economic powerhouses,
is almost double that of
the US and Europe.
'Billy Ruben' ALSO THREATENED
MY ginger and white Cat,
RIGHT BEFORE The Neighbour's
ginger and white Cat WAS CRIPPLED
and LOST 1 1/2 of it's feet.
...'Billy'... flooding my phone with
text threats...here comes another one...
...and what did the beastly sod have to say this time?
yep, THIS IS THE ILK thatBilly Ruben wrote: yes, i hacked u and
going to kill u dog
TELL YOU TO "DENY GOD".
THE SAME SODS who
TORTURE and KILL CATS
...and MUCH WORSE...
because, 'their' ONLY 'power'
is MURDEROUSLY SUICIDAL,
while GOD'S POWER,
CREATES, SUSTAINS, SAVES
and RESURRECTS LIFE.
So, another 'own goal' from 'billy'...
...GREAT SALES PITCH...but wasted,
as I don't sell, what God Freely Gives!
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Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:37 pm
Billy Ruben wrote:I've never been to Ballarat Bitch,but will be down that way in not to long a time...won't be hard to find an idiot like you in the commission area,we can discuss things face to face if you like...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...
How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.
Quote: I Am
Jase,
I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.
I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.
Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.
I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.
How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that
I THANK YOU
ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...
THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...
Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?
I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
and just to let the discerning reader know...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...
What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???
Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???
Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.
You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be thatBilly Ruben wrote:
So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'...
... or you could simply
...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go,
your own kind...I can't even pity you...
Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...
Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...
No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.
DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...
Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...
So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?
From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________
true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________
quote:Billy Ruben
your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________
Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.
This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...
the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!
sucked in...you make me ill...
True Lilly,puts her foot in it:Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.
The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...
THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...
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Re: Who IS on line???
Sod-Haus...!!! Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:20 am
I Wonder Who This Person Is From Outer Mongolia...???
Privyét
Privyét
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Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:42 pm
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:I Wonder Who This Person Is From Outer Mongolia...???
Privyét
An 'interesting' 'question', to be posted, after, I had more emails 'taken'.
Among which was a note I was saving for when 'Billy Ruben' calmed down enough to see through his blinding rage at himself, upon realizing he had chosen the wrong 'friends'.
But now 'Billy Ruben' has so loudly, proudly and publicly,
let the world know,
that when I warned of, "A" 'Christine' who does bestiality for blackmail,
THE ONE and ONLY 'Christine'
of ALL the 'Christine's' in the world
'Billy Ruben' SIMPLY HAD TO PUBLICLY ASSOCIATE,
is the David Icke Moderator, 'Christine' aka OZPIXIE.
So I think everyone should be reminded of WHY
'Billy Ruben' (the person who last rang me,
and actually spoke his personal threats),
CHOSE TO INVENT and TRY to PERPETUATE 'that scandal'.
It was to try to distract(=SACRIFICE a 'mate'),
from another 'scandal' HE INVENTED
(demanding I apologise FOR HIS PUBLIC BOASTS),
which he did to try to distract from HIS OWN SCANDAL
of THOSE PUBLIC BOASTS
that HE CHOSE TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD.
Billy Ruben wrote:...rather be born from the arse of a bastard pigBilly Ruben wrote:any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent.
than have her for a mum again next life...
eat the soul of my mother,you can have the...
Some Quotes of Jason/'Billy Ruben's' texts -"Wank wank no family i fucked ur husband to
...die bitch...yes i hacked u and going to kill u dog"-
gee, all of them, JUST LIKE the floods of texts I got from that mob who
couldn't remember who's phones they were using, which State
they claimed to be in, or even which person or sex they were
pretending to be, and JUST LIKE those whom my ex became an ex for;
by choosing to slave for them by sacrificing, rather than protecting, his children.
AND, JUST LIKE 'Billy Ruben', who can't remember who's phone 'he/she' has used,
which State 'he/she' is claiming to be in, or which sex 'he/she' is supposed to be.
'Jason', has it crossed your mind, that there ARE those WITHIN 'your' circles,
who can't and won't forgive you, or accept your excuses, for publicly posting things like:
Billy Ruben wrote:...rather be born from the arse of a bastard pigBilly Ruben wrote:any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent.
than have her for a mum again next life...
eat the soul of my mother,you can have the...
...and that is in no way as VILE as 'billy & Ciggy's' pages of 'conversation'Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:...up until a few days ago...I had some unsavoury ideas or fantasies about my niece, but that self preservation instinct kicked in,after some very straight forward warning signs...ah,yes I am a sick f*ck...and any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent. Please don't get uptight that this forum does'nt act as a bigger mouth-piece for your Dark Age rants...true lilly wrote:nah, it still hasn't kicked in, with any of 'you' STILL FISHING FOR FELLOW SICK FU€KS TO NETwork with... No wonder so few want to be seen in this depraved company...
about, how YOUNG and how RELATED is 'O.K.', and other 'JUSTIFICATIONS'
of 'billy' going on and on about:"any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent."
Now, if ANY of YOU, still, want to TELL me and THE WORLD,
that I "SHOULD" BELIEVE, ACCEPT, and DO, AS 'Billy Ruben'
AND ALL HIS 'mates', TELL ME I "MUST", REMEMBER that we
ARE in a period of SIFTING and SORTING....
....NOT The Final Judgement, quite yet...so again, I will WARN
of The Choice we all have to make...and a tip, those who can
hate me for this WARNING, ARE A BAD CHOICE of 'friends':
Say 559 unto them, [As] I live 2416,
saith 5002 the Lord 136 GOD 3069,
I have no pleasure 2654 in
the death 4194 of the wicked 7563;
but that the wicked 7563
turn 7725 from his way 1870 and live 2421 :
turn 7725 ye,
turn 7725 ye from your evil 7451 ways 1870;
for why will ye die 4191 ,
O house 1004 of Israel 3478?
Actually, best you read, every root meaning of every word
of this chapter...EZEKIEL 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=33&t=KJV#2
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Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:28 pm
true lilly wrote:Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:I Wonder Who This Person Is From Outer Mongolia...???
Privyét
An 'interesting' 'question', to be posted, after, I had more emails 'taken'.
Among which was a note I was saving for when 'Billy Ruben' calmed down enough to see through his blinding rage at himself, upon realizing he had chosen the wrong 'friends'.
But now 'Billy Ruben' has so loudly, proudly and publicly,
let the world know,
that when I warned of, "A" 'Christine' who does bestiality for blackmail,
THE ONE and ONLY 'Christine'
of ALL the 'Christine's' in the world
'Billy Ruben' SIMPLY HAD TO PUBLICLY ASSOCIATE,
is the David Icke Moderator, 'Christine' aka OZPIXIE.
So I think everyone should be reminded of WHY
'Billy Ruben' (the person who last rang me,
and actually spoke his personal threats),
CHOSE TO INVENT and TRY to PERPETUATE 'that scandal'.
It was to try to distract(=SACRIFICE a 'mate'),
from another 'scandal' HE INVENTED
(demanding I apologise FOR HIS PUBLIC BOASTS),
which he did to try to distract from HIS OWN SCANDAL
of THOSE PUBLIC BOASTS
that HE CHOSE TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD.Billy Ruben wrote:...rather be born from the arse of a bastard pigBilly Ruben wrote:any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent.
than have her for a mum again next life...
eat the soul of my mother,you can have the...
"Wank wank no family i fucked ur husband to
...die bitch...yes i hacked u and going to kill u dog"-
gee, all of them, JUST LIKE the floods of texts I got from that mob who
couldn't remember who's phones they were using, which State
they claimed to be in, or even which person or sex they were
pretending to be, and JUST LIKE those whom my ex became an ex for;
by choosing to slave for them by sacrificing, rather than protecting, his children.
AND, JUST LIKE 'Billy Ruben', who can't remember who's phone 'he/she' has used,
which State 'he/she' is claiming to be in, or which sex 'he/she' is supposed to be.
'Jason', has it crossed your mind, that there ARE those WITHIN 'your' circles,
who can't and won't forgive you, or accept your excuses, for publicly posting things like:Billy Ruben wrote:...rather be born from the arse of a bastard pigBilly Ruben wrote:any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent.
than have her for a mum again next life...
eat the soul of my mother,you can have the......and that is in no way as VILE as 'billy & Ciggy's' pages of 'conversation'Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:...up until a few days ago...I had some unsavoury ideas or fantasies about my niece, but that self preservation instinct kicked in,after some very straight forward warning signs...ah,yes I am a sick f*ck...and any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent. Please don't get uptight that this forum does'nt act as a bigger mouth-piece for your Dark Age rants...true lilly wrote:nah, it still hasn't kicked in, with any of 'you' STILL FISHING FOR FELLOW SICK FU€KS TO NETwork with... No wonder so few want to be seen in this depraved company...
about, how YOUNG and how RELATED is 'O.K.', and other 'JUSTIFICATIONS'
of 'billy' going on and on about:"any chance to bang my niece, is time well spent."
Now, if ANY of YOU, still, want to TELL me and THE WORLD,
that I "SHOULD" BELIEVE, ACCEPT, and DO, AS 'Billy Ruben'
AND ALL HIS 'mates', TELL ME I "MUST", REMEMBER that we
ARE in a period of SIFTING and SORTING....
....NOT The Final Judgement, quite yet...so again, I will WARN
of The Choice we all have to make...and a tip, those who can
hate me for this WARNING, ARE A BAD CHOICE of 'friends':
Say 559 unto them, [As] I live 2416,
saith 5002 the Lord 136 GOD 3069,
I have no pleasure 2654 in
the death 4194 of the wicked 7563;
but that the wicked 7563
turn 7725 from his way 1870 and live 2421 :
turn 7725 ye,
turn 7725 ye from your evil 7451 ways 1870;
for why will ye die 4191 ,
O house 1004 of Israel 3478?
Actually, best you read, every root meaning of every word
of this chapter...EZEKIEL 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=33&t=KJV#2
Hey Creep,
Those quotes have been cut and pasted together,we were'nt talking to you...and for your information fuckwit,Colin and my brother in law were reading the forums,so shiving them even more and covering for my niece was the real design as we have discussed a dozen times,but that's cool,it's just more for Jumbo Spam.
So what should I be afraid of,rallying all these people you have'nt got to do your bidding?
this is hilarious reading,but knowing you spent the last 24 hours in silence,you probably deleted where you say Ozpixies' name is Christine and she loves making men fu*k goats to keep them in her death circles for ever...lying slut you are.
See,this is the sort of piece of shit you are,you won't apologise for what you say,you just lie and slime your way out,anyone who has had dealings with you,will recognise,your way of operating here.Now,stupid,I'm sure I already have the proof in my mass spammings,so you can't worm out,little worm.Never thought I hear a gods mouth piece be a petty vulgar piece of lying shit like you...
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Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:11 am
Billy Ruben wrote:https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t703p1050-david-icke-site-betrays-australia#18943
page 72 of that rambling thread of absolute lies and madness...
still denying it,you lying bitch,when I find all the original post IF you have'nt spent time with Sod,finding and deleting it,in a vain attempt,to back-peddle and lie your way out,that's cool,my pleasure,was showing all,you even sacrifice your own family for your delusions...
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Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:19 am
Billy Ruben wrote:...and just to spoil it True Lilly,the mods don't even care what you or anyone writes from here at Sodlikes.The mods stopped reading along time ago,particulary you,who's regarded and written off as a person who needs serious help,you're pitied,not hated...I made a fool of myself thinking they would care,I'm the one pushing it,not them...me.I've had your baseless accusations and when I'm done,you can write anything you like,I'll lock my threads and let you bring this forum down even more,that even people who loved the place,won't bother to log in to have a squizz...fine by me.
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Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:59 pm
Please stop messing with my posts...ah, but why stop now...true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:I think they must have employed some poets at Google...true lilly wrote:
When the red phone rings, the AT 2000 goes into action.
Covertly created and financed by an international consortium
of governments and wide-ranging private interests, AT 2000
represents the last line of defense against worldwide terrorism.
A secured hi-tech computer line, the red phone accesses only
terrorist activity already investigated and verified by - but beyond
the grasp of - any one of a number of international police,
special security, and military agencies, so its urgent signal raises
the alarm on a clear and present danger - an explosive situation
that only AT 2000 can defuse.
Headed by Quentin Forbes, the group is assembled from special units
throughout the entire commonwealth of nations - the men and woman
of AT 2000 are the very best in their respective specialities.
But they are also renegades, marching to a different drumbeat of justice,
one above and beyond the call of "regular duty".
Forming what is, essentially, the first truly international police force,
they employ wide ranging (although officially hidden) powers
springing from a simple mandate - to track down, combat and defeat
terrorism in all its ugly faces.
The heart of this new dramatic series lies in the life or death cases of AT 2000,
most of them taken from actual case files.
Its soul lives in its colorful and disparate characters - their public and private
triumphs, failures, heartbreaks, joys and everything inbetween.
Written by Lou
"Fail Safe," starring Henry Fonda as the president...
Former White House Chief of Staff Andy Card...
there was a direct connection phone between
the White House Situation Room and the Kremlin,
...it wasn't red.
As for today?
"Nowadays, they just pick up a phone and...
Psalms 106:1-48
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=106&v=1&t=KJV
1
Praise Jah, YOU people!
Give thanks to Jehovah, for he is good;
For his loving-kindness is to time indefinite.
2
Who can utter the mighty performances of Jehovah,
[Or] can make all his praise to be heard?
3
Happy are those observing justice,
Doing righteousness all the time.
4
Remember me, O Jehovah, with the goodwill toward your people.
Take care of me with your salvation,
5
That I may see the goodness to your chosen ones,
That I may rejoice with the rejoicing of your nation,
That I may make my boast with your inheritance.
6
We have sinned just the same as our forefathers;
We have done wrong; we have acted wickedly.
7
As for our forefathers in Egypt,
They did not show any insight into your wonderful works.
They did not remember the abundance of your grand loving-kindness,
But they behaved rebelliously at the sea, by the Red Sea.
8
And he proceeded to save them for the sake of his name,
So as to make his mightiness known.
9
Accordingly he rebuked the Red Sea, and it was gradually dried up;
And he went walking them through the watery deep as through the wilderness;
10
And so he saved them from the hand of the hater
And reclaimed them from the hand of the enemy.
11
And the waters came covering their adversaries;
Not one of them was left.
12
Then they had faith in his word;
They began to sing his praise.
13
Quickly they forgot his works;
They did not wait for his counsel.
14
But they showed their selfish desire in the wilderness
And went putting God to the proof in the desert.
15
And he proceeded to give them their request
And to send a wasting disease into their soul.
16
And they began to envy Moses in the camp,
Even Aaron the holy one of Jehovah.
17
The earth then opened up and swallowed down Da´than,
And covered over the assembly of A·bi´ram.
18
And a fire went burning among their assembly;
A flame itself went devouring the wicked ones.
19
Furthermore, they made a calf in Ho´reb
And bowed down to a molten image,
20
So that they exchanged my glory
For a representation of a bull, an eater of vegetation.
21
They forgot God their Savior,
The Doer of great things in Egypt,
22
Wonderful works in the land of Ham,
Fear-inspiring things at the Red Sea.
23
And he was about to say to annihilate them,
If it had not been for Moses his chosen one,
Who stood in the gap before him,
To turn back his rage from bringing [them] to ruin.
24
And they got to contemning the desirable land;
They had no faith in his word.
25
And they kept grumbling in their tents;
They did not listen to the voice of Jehovah.
26
So he proceeded to raise his hand [in an oath] concerning them,
That he would make them fall in the wilderness,
27
And that he would make their offspring fall among the nations,
And that he would scatter them among the lands.
28
And they began to attach themselves to Ba´al of Pe´or
And to eat the sacrifices of the dead ones.
29
As they were causing offense by their dealings,
A scourge now broke out among them.
30
When Phin´e·has stood up and intervened,
Then the scourge was halted.
31
And it came to be counted to him as righteousness
For generation after generation to time indefinite.
32
Further, they caused provocation at the waters of Mer´i·bah,
So that it went badly with Moses by reason of them.
33
For they embittered his spirit
And he began to speak rashly with his lips.
34
They did not annihilate the peoples,
As Jehovah had said to them.
35
And they went mingling with the nations
And took up learning their works.
36
And they kept serving their idols,
And these came to be a snare to them.
37
And they would sacrifice their sons
And their daughters to demons.
38
So they kept spilling innocent blood,
The blood of their sons and their daughters,
Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Ca´naan;
And the land came to be polluted with bloodshed.
39
And they got to be unclean by their works
And kept having immoral intercourse by their dealings.
40
And the anger of Jehovah began to blaze against his people,
And he came to detest his inheritance.
41
And he repeatedly gave them into the hand of the nations,
That those hating them might rule over them,
42
And that their enemies might oppress them,
And that they might be subdued under their hand.
43
Many times he would deliver them,
But they themselves would behave rebelliously in their disobedient course,
And they would be brought low for their error.
44
And he would see the distress of theirs
When he heard their entreating cry.
45
And he would remember concerning them his covenant,
And he would feel regret according to the abundance of his grand loving-kindness.
46
And he would grant them to be objects of pity
Before all those holding them captive.
47
Save us, O Jehovah our God,
And collect us together from the nations
To give thanks to your holy name,
To speak exultingly in your praise.
48
Blessed be Jehovah the God of Israel
From time indefinite even to time indefinite;
And all the people must say Amen.
Praise Jah, YOU people!
Psalms 105:1-45
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=105&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
GIVE thanks to Jehovah, call upon his name,
Make known among the peoples his dealings.
2
Sing to him, make melody to him,
Concern yourselves with all his wonderful works.
3
Make YOUR boast in his holy name.
Let the heart of those seeking Jehovah rejoice.
4
Search for Jehovah and his strength.
Seek his face constantly.
5
Remember his wonderful works that he has performed,
His miracles and the judicial decisions of his mouth,
6
O YOU seed of Abraham his servant,
YOU sons of Jacob, his chosen ones.
7
He is Jehovah our God.
His judicial decisions are in all the earth.
8
He has remembered his covenant even to time indefinite,
The word that he commanded, to a thousand generations,
9
Which [covenant] he concluded with Abraham,
And his sworn statement to Isaac,
10
And which [statement] he kept standing as a regulation even to Jacob,
As an indefinitely lasting covenant even to Israel,
11
Saying: “To you I shall give the land of Ca´naan
As the allotment of YOUR inheritance.”
12
[This was] when they happened to be few in number,
Yes, very few, and alien residents in it.
13
And they kept walking about from nation to nation,
From one kingdom to another people.
14
He did not allow any human to defraud them,
But on their account he reproved kings,
15
[Saying:] “Do not YOU men touch my anointed ones,
And to my prophets do nothing bad.”
16
And he proceeded to call for a famine upon the land;
He broke every rod around which ring-shaped loaves were suspended.
17
He sent ahead of them a man
Who was sold to be a slave, Joseph.
18
With fetters they afflicted his feet,
Into irons his soul came;
19
Until the time that his word came,
The saying of Jehovah itself refined him.
20
The king sent that he might release him,
The ruler of the peoples, that he might let him loose.
21
He set him as master to his household
And as ruler over all his property,
22
To bind his princes agreeably to his soul
And that he might teach wisdom to even his elderly men.
23
And Israel proceeded to come into Egypt,
And Jacob himself resided as an alien in the land of Ham.
24
And he kept making his people very fruitful,
And gradually made them mightier than their adversaries.
25
He let their heart change to hate his people,
To behave cunningly against his servants.
26
He sent Moses his servant,
Aaron whom he had chosen.
27
They set among them the matters of his signs,
And the miracles in the land of Ham.
28
He sent darkness and so made it dark;
And they did not rebel against his words.
29
He changed their waters into blood,
And proceeded to put their fish to death.
30
Their land swarmed with frogs,
In the interior rooms of their kings.
31
He said that the gadflies should come in,
Gnats in all their territories.
32
He made their downpours hail,
A flaming fire on their land.
33
And he proceeded to strike their vines and their fig trees
And to break the trees of their territory.
34
He said that the locusts should come in,
And a species of locust, even without number.
35
And they went eating all the vegetation in their land;
They also went eating the fruitage of their ground.
36
And he proceeded to strike down every firstborn in their land,
The beginning of all their generative power.
37
And he began to bring them out with silver and gold;
And among his tribes there was no one stumbling along.
38
Egypt rejoiced when they went out,
For the dread of them had fallen upon them.
39
He spread out a cloud for a screen,
And fire to give light by night.
40
They asked, and he proceeded to bring quails,
And with bread from heaven he kept satisfying them.
41
He opened a rock, and waters began to flow out;
These went through the waterless regions as a river.
42
For he remembered his holy word with Abraham his servant.
43
So he brought out his people with exultation,
His chosen ones even with a joyful cry.
44
And gradually he gave them the lands of the nations,
And they kept taking possession of the product of the hard work of national groups,
45
To the end that they might keep his regulations
And observe his own laws.
Praise Jah, YOU people!
I, at least, can still quote the filthy lies that damn the bitter beastly,
while 'they' have made so much 'fun' of laughing at how often and easily
'they' hack and 'edit' me, while hiding behind countless false names, sexes
and persona's, that anyone who matters, can easily figure that,
the one who doesn't hide, and is willing to personally speak with and even meet
and discuss anything 'credited to' their posting name(= me), has already won,
by 'their' boasting of happily defaulting on any fair, open and honest debate.
true lilly wrote:
Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
TMJ, Learning Problems
Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching
Bremen, Germany
http://www.kinergetics.com.au/KinShop.asp?KinCoursePage=2
It's HYPNOSIS, that all!
'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!
Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...
...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...
true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:...I know you're hidden in the background,I plan a
new sortie today...to destroy your character once for all...and your
work of fiction that you began 5 years ago,do take time to suck my
dick...=
???? but, I've been busy with things, and been out and about,Billy Ruben wrote:I'M FUCKING LOVING
THIS BABE,YOU''VE HAD IT COMING FOR YEARS,CHECK OUR FIRST CHATS,I'M SO
WELL MANNERED AND YOU TRIED BULLYING ME AND KEEPING ME IN PLACE,DID'NT
FUCKING WORK,EH? GOD WHORE....
and enjoying delightful company, so you may want to explain
this current delusion of your...oops sorry, it's bit much to ask
the delusional to explain anything.
Anyway, I'm off and about again...
tintin wrote:
Shit hits the fan
We are now at the time when THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.
It is all collapsing. Riots, financial markets, civil wars, revolutions, hunger.....
This is it. The ASS and HOLE link points to the SHIT hitting the fan.
Yep, 'they' The Guru's of CONspiracy land, DO believe it's funny,ninny wrote:
lmao.
i didnt know that 'shit hits the fan' is normal for "this shit is hot or the shit steams" or "fresh shit"
funny.
it is shit
this is it
shit everywhere you look around...
after all, IT IS WHAT 'they' SLAVE to bring about.
And 'their' Major Key for 'turning it on', is to CONvince the world
that there "is no God" to answer to, so that everyone will do any evil
to "get" what they have been made to believe "the world owes them",
and never daring to stop and think, that we all owe God, for our lives,
in this world He Created FOR US.
Fortunately for some, just as with the poor and powerless,
not every rich and powerful person buys that crap.
"Gotta Serve Somebody"
https://youtu.be/FavBDpg91gA
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might be a rock'n' roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord you might even own banks.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.
You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
(psst...The Wise Don't Chose to serve
the one who Can't Create Life,
but rather
The One Who Does Create Life and Can't die.
)
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:00 pm
Billy Ruben wrote:
We are now at the time when THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.
It is all collapsing. Riots, financial markets, civil wars, revolutions, hunger.....
This is it. The ASS and HOLE link points to the SHIT hitting the fan.Yep, 'they' The Guru's of CONspiracy land, DO believe it's funny,ninny wrote:
lmao.
i didnt know that 'shit hits the fan' is normal for "this shit is hot or the shit steams" or "fresh shit"
funny.
it is shit
this is it
shit everywhere you look around...
after all, IT IS WHAT 'they' SLAVE to bring about.
And 'their' Major Key for 'turning it on', is to CONvince the world
that there "is no God" to answer to, so that everyone will do any evil
to "get" what they have been made to believe "the world owes them",
and never daring to stop and think, that we all owe God, for our lives,
in this world He Created FOR US.
Fortunately for some, just as with the poor and powerless,
not every rich and powerful person buys that crap.
Must admit Lilly,you got a real hide.You call Ninny a child molester one day,then court his/her attention with nearly every post when in reference to the TNBTN.What you don't understand is you really are a fanboy of that thread,Yet the Lying Conspiracy Industry thread of yours has'nt had a post since Christmas,hOrSeY (palomino) spammed two pages of shit and gave up...so all you have left,is throwing poop from your cage,like monkeys do at a Zoo...Pretty sad when you think about it.
Must admit Lilly,you got a real hide.You call Ninny a child molester one day,then court his/her attention with nearly every post when in reference to the TNBTN.What you don't understand is you really are a fanboy of that thread,Yet the Lying Conspiracy Industry thread of yours has'nt had a post since Christmas,hOrSeY (palomino) spammed two pages of shit and gave up...so all you have left,is throwing poop from your cage,like monkeys do at a Zoo...Pretty sad when you think about it.
[/quote]
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Location : No Fixed Address
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:28 pm
Billy Ruben wrote:Oi,you spammed your own threads with off-topic spam and rants...well,you better live by your own code for once and accuse yourself of molesting children or dogs,or something like you do to everybody else who dares...just a thought!
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Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:59 pm
Who indeed...
and how many of those whom 'Billy Ruben'
loves to brag, help him do low, corrupt acts,
from their positions within governments,
such as Policing...
I ask others to ask, and seek the answers to, for themselves...
' reading mind"...
...I know reading on the NET makes my already bad spelling, worse,
but I'm sure your English would have improved a little by now...
but then, it always was a consistency=time/place/person/message, thing
with you, wasn't it. Anyway, it is God, who controls Time, BUT,
it is NOT a "loop", sure past events/signs etc. FORE SHADOW things
TO COME, but the whole, repeat, repeating of that, "everything repeats;
nothing changes; cycles of life", fruit loopy doctrine of man,
is a LIE that sells the religion of DEATH WORSHIP.
And it's by watching for the things God told us
would fore shadow other things, gathering and "layering",
that we better get to see, where, along God's (the actual)
Time Line of earth's and man's, past and future history,
we are at.
Ha, and a dead give-away of that fact,
is how heavily I'm attacked for asking folk to do their study,
of actual histories, all over the whole world, and to occasionally
go back to review old posts that I 'just knew' contained information
and news that fore shadowed much bigger news.
...and while writing that reply,
I get yet another text from 'Billy Ruben',
'telling' me I "have nothing to say" while also,
making more threats, And,
SHOPPING HIS DIRTY COPPER 'MATES', TO ME
Talk about 'Jason' aka 'Billy Ruben'and 
and how many of those whom 'Billy Ruben'
loves to brag, help him do low, corrupt acts,
from their positions within governments,
such as Policing...
...and just a little more context to help answer the questionstrue lilly wrote:Please stop messing with my posts...ah, but why stop now...
I, at least, can still quote the filthy lies that damn the bitter beastly,
while 'they' have made so much 'fun' of laughing at how often and easily
'they' hack and 'edit' me, while hiding behind countless false names, sexes
and persona's, that anyone who matters, can easily figure that,
the one who doesn't hide, and is willing to personally speak with and even meet
and discuss anything 'credited to' their posting name(= me), has already won,
by 'their' boasting of happily defaulting on any fair, open and honest debate.true lilly wrote:
Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
TMJ, Learning Problems
Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching
Bremen, Germany
http://www.kinergetics.com.au/KinShop.asp?KinCoursePage=2
It's HYPNOSIS, that's all!
'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!
Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...
...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:...I know you're hidden in the background,I plan a
new sortie today...to destroy your character once for all...and your
work of fiction that you began 5 years ago,do take time to suck my
dick...???? but, I've been busy with things, and been out and about,Billy Ruben wrote:I'M FUCKING LOVING
THIS BABE,YOU''VE HAD IT COMING FOR YEARS,CHECK OUR FIRST CHATS,I'M SO
WELL MANNERED AND YOU TRIED BULLYING ME AND KEEPING ME IN PLACE,DID'NT
FUCKING WORK,EH? GOD WHORE....
and enjoying delightful company, so you may want to explain
this current delusion of your...oops sorry, it's bit much to ask
the delusional to explain anything.
Anyway, I'm off and about again...
Now ask yourselves;
what doesn't 'Billy Ruben' get about,
"BEING BUSY", "OFF AND ABOUT",
"ENJOYING DELIGHTFUL COMPANY"
and being On My Foes List=IGNORED,
that he just has keep sending me
more of his patently insane BS,
to my phone?
And why is he so obsessed with constantly,
threatening me with murder, and worse,
while also laughing about how freely
he hacks my posts, And,
GETS HIS COPPER 'MATES'
TO DO THE DIRTY FOR HIM?
And doesn't that sort of shoot, his -
"everybody in the world suffers violence and
Police and other corruption, except, the proven
real, woman I constantly admit to attacking" -
'arguments', in the head and arse,
at the same time?tintin wrote:
Shit hits the fan
We are now at the time when THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.
It is all collapsing. Riots, financial markets, civil wars, revolutions, hunger.....
This is it. The ASS and HOLE link points to the SHIT hitting the fan.Yep, 'they' The Guru's of CONspiracy land, DO believe it's funny,ninny wrote:
lmao.
i didnt know that 'shit hits the fan' is normal for "this shit is hot or the shit steams" or "fresh shit"
funny.
it is shit
this is it
shit everywhere you look around...
after all, IT IS WHAT 'they' SLAVE to bring about.
And 'their' Major Key for 'turning it on', is to CONvince the world
that there "is no God" to answer to, so that everyone will do any evil
to "get" what they have been made to believe "the world owes them",
and never daring to stop and think, that we all owe God, for our lives,
in this world He Created FOR US.
Fortunately for some, just as with the poor and powerless,
not every rich and powerful person buys that crap.
"Gotta Serve Somebody"
https://youtu.be/FavBDpg91gA
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might be a rock'n' roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord you might even own banks.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.
You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
(psst...The Wise Don't Chose to serve
the one who Can't Create Life,
but rather
The One Who Does Create Life and Can't die.
I ask others to ask, and seek the answers to, for themselves...
umm...O.K....let me refresh my, "'
i simse to be folloing it ...by defoolt? or likeit
' reading mind"......I know reading on the NET makes my already bad spelling, worse,
but I'm sure your English would have improved a little by now...
but then, it always was a consistency=time/place/person/message, thing
with you, wasn't it
. Anyway, it is God, who controls Time, BUT,it is NOT a "loop", sure past events/signs etc. FORE SHADOW things
TO COME, but the whole, repeat, repeating of that, "everything repeats;
nothing changes; cycles of life", fruit loopy doctrine of man,
is a LIE that sells the religion of DEATH WORSHIP.
And it's by watching for the things God told us
would fore shadow other things, gathering and "layering",
that we better get to see, where, along God's (the actual)
Time Line of earth's and man's, past and future history,
we are at.
Ha, and a dead give-away of that fact,
is how heavily I'm attacked for asking folk to do their study,
of actual histories, all over the whole world, and to occasionally
go back to review old posts that I 'just knew' contained information
and news that fore shadowed much bigger news.
...and while writing that reply,
I get yet another text from 'Billy Ruben',
'telling' me I "have nothing to say"
while also,making more threats, And,
SHOPPING HIS DIRTY COPPER 'MATES', TO ME
Talk about 'Jason' aka 'Billy Ruben'
and
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: Who IS on line???
Billy Ruben Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:00 pm
true lilly wrote:Who indeed...
and how many of those whom 'Billy Ruben'
loves to brag, help him do low, corrupt acts,
from their positions within governments,
such as Policing......and just a little more context to help answer the questionstrue lilly wrote:Please stop messing with my posts...ah, but why stop now...
I, at least, can still quote the filthy lies that damn the bitter beastly,
while 'they' have made so much 'fun' of laughing at how often and easily
'they' hack and 'edit' me, while hiding behind countless false names, sexes
and persona's, that anyone who matters, can easily figure that,
the one who doesn't hide, and is willing to personally speak with and even meet
and discuss anything 'credited to' their posting name(= me), has already won,
by 'their' boasting of happily defaulting on any fair, open and honest debate.true lilly wrote:
Specialise: Candida Balancing, Emotional,
Mercury/Heavy Metal Elimination,
Pain Release, Sabotage Clearing,
Spiritual, Sports/Stretching, Vision Improvement,
TMJ, Learning Problems
Trained in: Psychology, Flower Essence Therapy, Counselling, Life Coaching
Bremen, Germany
http://www.kinergetics.com.au/KinShop.asp?KinCoursePage=2
It's HYPNOSIS, that's all!
'they' HYPNOTISE people into 'believing' they 'feel' 'better',
AND INTO BEING DEPENDENT ON PAYING FOR MORE of 'that' 'feeling'!
Just one more example of why the EVIL GREENIES can NOT be trusted...
you know, the same F'wits that FORCED MERCURY light bulbs on the world...
you know, That HEAVY METAL POISON that 'they' will now 'have to' 'eliminate'
from EVERY BODY that ever breaks a bulb...while HYPNOTISING 'their' VICTIMS
into 'needing' TO PAY MORE and MORE for, MORE and MORE of 'their' SABOTAGE...
that 'they' call, 'services'...
...and yet another mob I pissed off decades ago, by REFUSING TO JOIN 'them'...
...in SPREADING DEADLY POISON then CHARGING for the SNAKE OIL 'cure'...true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:...I know you're hidden in the background,I plan a
new sortie today...to destroy your character once for all...and your
work of fiction that you began 5 years ago,do take time to suck my
dick...???? but, I've been busy with things, and been out and about,Billy Ruben wrote:I'M FUCKING LOVING
THIS BABE,YOU''VE HAD IT COMING FOR YEARS,CHECK OUR FIRST CHATS,I'M SO
WELL MANNERED AND YOU TRIED BULLYING ME AND KEEPING ME IN PLACE,DID'NT
FUCKING WORK,EH? GOD WHORE....
and enjoying delightful company, so you may want to explain
this current delusion of your...oops sorry, it's bit much to ask
the delusional to explain anything.
Anyway, I'm off and about again...
Now ask yourselves;
what doesn't 'Billy Ruben' get about,
"BEING BUSY", "OFF AND ABOUT",
"ENJOYING DELIGHTFUL COMPANY"
and being On My Foes List=IGNORED,
that he just has keep sending me
more of his patently insane BS,
to my phone?
And why is he so obsessed with constantly,
threatening me with murder, and worse,
while also laughing about how freely
he hacks my posts, And,
GETS HIS COPPER 'MATES'
TO DO THE DIRTY FOR HIM?
And doesn't that sort of shoot, his -
"everybody in the world suffers violence and
Police and other corruption, except, the proven
real, woman I constantly admit to attacking" -
'arguments', in the head and arse,
at the same time?tintin wrote:
Shit hits the fan
We are now at the time when THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.
It is all collapsing. Riots, financial markets, civil wars, revolutions, hunger.....
This is it. The ASS and HOLE link points to the SHIT hitting the fan.Yep, 'they' The Guru's of CONspiracy land, DO believe it's funny,ninny wrote:
lmao.
i didnt know that 'shit hits the fan' is normal for "this shit is hot or the shit steams" or "fresh shit"
funny.
it is shit
this is it
shit everywhere you look around...
after all, IT IS WHAT 'they' SLAVE to bring about.
And 'their' Major Key for 'turning it on', is to CONvince the world
that there "is no God" to answer to, so that everyone will do any evil
to "get" what they have been made to believe "the world owes them",
and never daring to stop and think, that we all owe God, for our lives,
in this world He Created FOR US.
Fortunately for some, just as with the poor and powerless,
not every rich and powerful person buys that crap.
"Gotta Serve Somebody"
https://youtu.be/FavBDpg91gA
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might be a rock'n' roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord you might even own banks.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.
You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
(psst...The Wise Don't Chose to serve
the one who Can't Create Life,
but rather
The One Who Does Create Life and Can't die.
I ask others to ask, and seek the answers to, for themselves...umm...O.K....let me refresh my, "'
i simse to be folloing it ...by defoolt? or likeit
...I know reading on the NET makes my already bad spelling, worse,
but I'm sure your English would have improved a little by now...
but then, it always was a consistency=time/place/person/message, thing
with you, wasn't it
it is NOT a "loop", sure past events/signs etc. FORE SHADOW things
TO COME, but the whole, repeat, repeating of that, "everything repeats;
nothing changes; cycles of life", fruit loopy doctrine of man,
is a LIE that sells the religion of DEATH WORSHIP.
And it's by watching for the things God told us
would fore shadow other things, gathering and "layering",
that we better get to see, where, along God's (the actual)
Time Line of earth's and man's, past and future history,
we are at.
Ha, and a dead give-away of that fact,
is how heavily I'm attacked for asking folk to do their study,
of actual histories, all over the whole world, and to occasionally
go back to review old posts that I 'just knew' contained information
and news that fore shadowed much bigger news.
...and while writing that reply,
I get yet another text from 'Billy Ruben',
'telling' me I "have nothing to say"
making more threats, And,
SHOPPING HIS DIRTY COPPER 'MATES', TO ME
Talk about 'Jason' aka 'Billy Ruben'
Cori wrote:I fully approve of this message.
Billy Ruben wrote:this is the photo she sent me,saying it's a car bomb photo and that I was holding it back when I had deleted it instantly,not realising at first,who sent it...it's still not evidence of a car-bomb though...
Bloody lying twot she is...
PS: Another Pit-Bull killed a four year old girl today in the state of Victoria...I've had this shit to be honest,they should be outlawed and new laws passed,if your dog hurts or kills a human,then you do time in gaol for manslaughter,or 2nd degree murder...cause dead beat owners,PURPOSELY make weapons out of their pooches...I'd shoot them both to be honest...
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Ciggy wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Oh come on, it was a bunch of images and text I sent...in God's Good Time, not when 'you lot' DEMANDED. Letting you all lie, shitcan and try to rush me, before I sent them, simply worked to EXPOSE MORE TRAITORS, to Australia's Faithful Soldiers. ... Traitors like those BITTER, JEALOUS WOmen and their lapDOGS, proudly, willingly blind to the stated, shown and, UNsaid but understood, context of my communications. And what's funny is that they can't use the slanders they wasted so much time, money and effort spreading, for a 'killer blow job', without OUTING THEMSELVES TO THOSE THEY WANT TO BLOW AWAY... Oops, too late for some... ISAIAH 10:33-34 , and 11
...The message said,Suzy the Chilli,with a picture,and it was small,of what looked like a reptilian with its head up its arse...no,I'm not kidding.
The meaningless text,should've given it away,it was you...we thought the occultist were having fun,or Steven Busteeed shapeshifting...
no,for reals man...
...we both were really stoned when we got it...it harshed our buzz and made us perplexed...
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy, it is BLIND HATE that causes Anyone to LAUGH AT my DAUGHTER BEING TARGETTED in a CAR BOMBING.
and after what you said about your family in that PM,I wiould'nt doubt it was from you,that car-bombing was planned...Mother Munch-Hausen.
to Quote Suzy Ryan...true lilly wrote:Married: 21-11-1981
First of 3 children to that, my one husband,
Born: 12-11-1982
Followed by 9 straight years of breastfeeding and/or being pregnant.
So old fashioned, you have to go back to genesis,
and that's why all my, worldly lusting, family hated me,
but failing to make me reject my faith in God,
they turned on and still, sabotage my children,
for which, they will answer to GOD'S Judgement,
and my children will be forgiven their errors,
taught them by those they can't believe, could,
hate God so bitterly...yet...
Billy Ruben wrote:Now to clear up the last of the lies that you refuse to answer for.
1.Where is the evidence and photos of the car bombing and medical reports and police reports for your bashings?
2. Where is the proof that Tintin is David Icke and they run an International Hit - Squad?
3.where is the proof,that any of your so called enemies,molest children and animals,Billy Ruben,Ciggy,Ozpixie,Tintin,Cori,Ninny,David Icke...oh,who else you label with your sick mind and fantasies,Why do we remind you of your teens like that?
4.Why do you keep saying my "mob and friends" that I allegedly work with,when I made it plain,I got rid of every friend in the flesh?I've never been happier doing it and seek no new contacts,except for my music links to Australian Underground Music...
5.Stop guessing games idiot,you bring up all this bullshit that I'm connected to this and that...and have no interest at all,particulary you,but am discussing options to have you charged or evaluated,so you better have those animal shelters sorted,don't want them starving while they care for you...UP YOURS SUSAN RYAN
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:
We are now at the time when THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.
It is all collapsing. Riots, financial markets, civil wars, revolutions, hunger.....
This is it. The ASS and HOLE link points to the SHIT hitting the fan.Yep, 'they' The Guru's of CONspiracy land, DO believe it's funny,ninny wrote:
lmao.
i didnt know that 'shit hits the fan' is normal for "this shit is hot or the shit steams" or "fresh shit"
funny.
it is shit
this is it
shit everywhere you look around...
after all, IT IS WHAT 'they' SLAVE to bring about.
And 'their' Major Key for 'turning it on', is to CONvince the world
that there "is no God" to answer to, so that everyone will do any evil
to "get" what they have been made to believe "the world owes them",
and never daring to stop and think, that we all owe God, for our lives,
in this world He Created FOR US.
Fortunately for some, just as with the poor and powerless,
not every rich and powerful person buys that crap.
Must admit Lilly,you got a real hide.You call Ninny a child molester one day,then court his/her attention with nearly every post when in reference to the TNBTN.What you don't understand is you really are a fanboy of that thread,Yet the Lying Conspiracy Industry thread of yours has'nt had a post since Christmas,hOrSeY (palomino) spammed two pages of shit and gave up...so all you have left,is throwing poop from your cage,like monkeys do at a Zoo...Pretty sad when you think about it.
Must admit Lilly,you got a real hide.You call Ninny a child molester one day,then court his/her attention with nearly every post when in reference to the TNBTN.What you don't understand is you really are a fanboy of that thread,Yet the Lying Conspiracy Industry thread of yours has'nt had a post since Christmas,hOrSeY (palomino) spammed two pages of shit and gave up...so all you have left,is throwing poop from your cage,like monkeys do at a Zoo...Pretty sad when you think about it.
[/quote]Billy Ruben wrote:Oi,you spammed your own threads with off-topic spam and rants...well,you better live by your own code for once and accuse yourself of molesting children or dogs,or something like you do to everybody else who dares...just a thought!
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t715p30-assange-icke-aarnout-et-al
true lilly wrote:Fantasy, is believing that Australia does not perfectly fit that Glorious, Rich, Stable Land DESCRIBED in The Books of God's Word. And as I've VERY OFTEN EXPLAINED, I CAN'T POST IMAGES, and NONE of 'YOU' DARE RING Me with a number to send images to. Anyway, doesn't matter now. Wasn't my job to 'out' the traitors ...
Ciggy wrote:So you do say that you *have* the images, right?
true lilly wrote:When tintin a.k.a. Aarnout van der Plooge (the name he traved here by), gets scared, he gets drunk and when he gets drunk he gets 'stuck in a loop'. He must be shitting himself lately, as he can't break out of the loop of PROMOTING BLINDING HATE FILLED RAGING, AGAINST A GIRL CHILD, who was MURDERED BY NAZIS, FOR SIMPLY being born a 'JEW'. But HE/THEY don't only WANT ALL 'THEY DECIDE, have Jew blood' DEAD, but Also ALL 'THEY DECIDE, don't think right', i.e. DON'T SUPPORT BEAST WORSHIP.
Ciggy wrote:Stay with me here, it's not crazy drinking battery acid time yet. You have the photos right?
true lilly wrote:Ciggy, I thank God that Not All Australians support the Takeover of this land by The King of The NORTH (call it The DUTCH Crown, to keep it simple), as they, those who Know and Love God, DO HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE of who Our Enemies Are, Due To The MASSIVE OVERKILL 'they' employed in trying to silence one powerless, alone, old woman who simply cared to inspire individuals to, Do Their Own Study, of The LIFE SAVING FACTS of GOD'S WORD.
Ciggy wrote:Fooking lunatic, for ONCE in yer life be lucid. I need you conscious. Put the bottle down and stop being inco-fooking-herent. This is important. DO... YOU... HAVE... THE... PHOTOS...?
true lilly wrote:Ciggy, I thank God that Not All Australians support the Takeover of this land by The King of The NORTH (call it The DUTCH Crown, to keep it simple), as they, those who Know and Love God, DO HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE of who Our Enemies Are, Due To The MASSIVE OVERKILL 'they' employed in trying to silence one powerless, alone, old woman who simply cared to inspire individuals to, Do Their Own Study, of The LIFE SAVING FACTS of GOD'S WORD. Interesting to, that on trying to post this, I WAS 'LOGGED OUT' BY AN OUTSIDE, WIRELESS SOURCE, and so had to re-confirm it was ME posting, and this a little over a week after the WIRELESS HACKING of LOCAL CITY COUNCIL SERVERS.
Ciggy wrote:It's hopeless. They picked a good target. Too fecking loonie to know which end is up.
true lilly wrote:And ASSANGE is Back On The Hook for RAPE.
Ciggy wrote:Who cares?
true lilly wrote:those who DON'T WANT to SUPPORT, EVIL BABY F UCKING C UNTS WHO SUPPORT RAPISTS Such as tintin/'DAVID ICKE. Pathetic to, how much 'tintin's' VIOLENT, PERSONAL THREATS have become 'DAVID ICKE'S' NEWSLETTER.Ciggy wrote:Who cares?
Ciggy wrote:I suppose your pics of David Icke raping someone are on your phone too?
Billy Ruben wrote:...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...
How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.
Quote: I Am
Jase,
I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.
I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.
Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.
I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.
How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that
I THANK YOU
ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...
THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...
Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?
I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
and just to let the discerning reader know...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...
What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???
Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???
Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.
You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be thatBilly Ruben wrote:
So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'...
... or you could simply
...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go,
your own kind...I can't even pity you...
Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...
Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...
No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.
DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...
Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...
So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?
From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________
true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________
quote:Billy Ruben
your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________
Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.
This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...
the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!
sucked in...you make me ill...
True Lilly,puts her foot in it:Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.
Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.
The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...
THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...
GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...
Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.
YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE...
Billy Ruben wrote:I FIND THE UNHIVED MIND INTERESTING,THANKS TO SOD LEAVING THAT LINK,IT SHOWS A PSYCHOLOGICAL TIME-LINE FOR THIS FRUITBAT,SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY,AND OF COURSE,THE LACK OF INTEREST IN HER POST,ZERO REPLIES AND TWO OR THREE DOZEN READS OVER 5 YEARS,SO YEAH,VERY TELLING,THAT'S WHY SHE BAITS AND LIES EVERYBODY,CAUSE,AS IN HER REAL LIFE,EVERYONE INCLUDING HER FAMILY ABANDONED HER,CAUSE THEY COULD'NT TAKE THE HURT AND PAIN SHE CAUSED THEM,OVER THIS LOVE FOR DEMONS,THAT SHE THINKS IS GOD.SUZY,YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOVING,SPIRITUAL PSYCHIC SIDE,TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER REALMS,YOU'RE A BOTTOM FEEDER...YOU'RE TALKING SHIT,SCHIZO OR POSSESSED...
BUT ANYWAY,SOD GIVES HER CREDIT AS UNBENDING,I SAY,STUPID AND STUBBORN,WHICH COST HER THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE,HER LOVING FAMILY,THAT SHE LOST,THANK GOD THE HUSBAND WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE KIDS TOGETHER...THAT IS ALL FOR NOW...
Billy Ruben wrote:NOW LET'S SEE THE TRUTH...
Hey Creep,Billy Ruben wrote:JEALOUSY OF TINTIN'S SUCCESS AND INTEGRITY,NOW HE HAS REAL FRIENDS AND FOLLOWERS AND A NICE GERMAN GIRL CALLED CORI BY HIS SIDE,HE'S A SUCCESS AS HE WORKED HARD FOR HIS ORIGINAL POINT OF VIEW...I COMMEND HIM AND RECOMMEND YOU READING HIS WORKS,HE MUST BE GOOD,TO BE HARRASSED BY THIS STUPID WOMAN WHO LOST HER OWN KIDS IN THIS BITTER JEALOUS ONE WOMAN WAR
Those quotes have been cut and pasted together,we were'nt talking to you...and for your information fuckwit,Colin and my brother in law were reading the forums,so shiving them even more and covering for my niece was the real design as we have discussed a dozen times,but that's cool,it's just more for Jumbo Spam.
So what should I be afraid of,rallying all these people you have'nt got to do your bidding?
this is hilarious reading,but knowing you spent the last 24 hours in silence,you probably deleted where you say Ozpixies' name is Christine and she loves making men fu*k goats to keep them in her death circles for ever...lying slut you are.
See,this is the sort of piece of shit you are,you won't apologise for what you say,you just lie and slime your way out,anyone who has had dealings with you,will recognise,your way of operating here.Now,stupid,I'm sure I already have the proof in my mass spammings,so you can't worm out,little worm.Never thought I hear a gods mouth piece be a petty vulgar piece of lying shit like you...[/quote]
Billy Ruben wrote:Sure about that Suzy Ryan,not coveting other peoples GOOD WORK...that you would'nt understand,if Master Tintin,had'nt been so gracious to show you...dog.
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/post?p=17145&mode=quotetrue lilly wrote:Well I DO hope 'you' were 'listening' to
THE ABOUNDING JOY in this
Very 'worldly' Poor house,
this Delightful morning...
Oh and I won't bore readers with 'your' LENGTHY SERMON
in this quote below, as 'you've already spread it ALL OVER THE NET..el kabong wrote:Yoo Hoo, lilly willy, I notice you retain alot of
anger, jealousy, envy, etc...........you must learn to overcome your ego
and manifest lovingkindness to all, even those you feel have wronged
you.
[quote=”true lilly”]
...it really is RIDICULOUSLY FUNNY how often 'you' LEGIONS
of FORUM TROLLS, HAVE TO Fall Back on DESCRIBING 'YOURSELVES'
in order to 'justify' CURSING me...
[/quote]Billy Ruben wrote:JEALOUSY OF TINTIN'S SUCCESS AND INTEGRITY,NOW HE HAS REAL FRIENDS AND FOLLOWERS AND A NICE GERMAN GIRL CALLED CORI BY HIS SIDE,HE'S A SUCCESS AS HE WORKED HARD FOR HIS ORIGINAL POINT OF VIEW...I COMMEND HIM AND RECOMMEND YOU READING HIS WORKS,HE MUST BE GOOD,TO BE HARRASSED BY THIS STUPID WOMAN WHO LOST HER OWN KIDS IN THIS BITTER JEALOUS ONE WOMAN WAR
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.So, 'billy' Jason,Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?
I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper."[color=black], job....'smart'er...
smart, would be to stop trusting idiots to supply 'intelligence',
and to stop expecting that insanity to not backfire.
But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.
So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
It's because you have become a liability TO THEM.
In fact, all you bitterly chattering monkey's have.
btw... WHAT is IT 'you' claim I'm "pushing"?
I knew you'd post when you thought the coast was clear,or,you got told I logged off,ROFLMAO
True Lilly admits,tried to worm out..
But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.
t0o late,you already claimed it is her...and that you warned others way back at ATS,which is a heap of a shit forum,the same with Godlike,them and you,would'nt wipe my arse with...
Now,even better,you're not even sure it's the same Ozpixie...not only that,you just displayed your willing to spread rumours with no basis of truth,I'm going to spam every fuckin thread with this now...thankyou,like Manna from heaven in the quest,to slay the dragon known as True Lilly...you got nothing mate...you just lost all your so-called credibilty by yourself,in two short lines...I love you again...Hahahahahahaha
Billy Ruben wrote:Now to clear up the last of the lies that you refuse to answer for.
1.Where is the evidence and photos of the car bombing and medical reports and police reports for your bashings?
2. Where is the proof that Tintin is David Icke and they run an International Hit - Squad?
3.where is the proof,that any of your so called enemies,molest children and animals,Billy Ruben,Ciggy,Ozpixie,Tintin,Cori,Ninny,David Icke...oh,who else you label with your sick mind and fantasies,Why do we remind you of your teens like that?
4.Why do you keep saying my "mob and friends" that I allegedly work with,when I made it plain,I got rid of every friend in the flesh?I've never been happier doing it and seek no new contacts,except for my music links to Australian Underground Music...
5.Stop guessing games idiot,you bring up all this bullshit that I'm connected to this and that...and have no interest at all,particulary you,but am discussing options to have you charged or evaluated,so you better have those animal shelters sorted,don't want them starving while they care for you...UP YOURS SUSAN RYAN
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Re: Who IS on line???
true lilly Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:00 pm
Oh, and 'Jason/Billy' also had to text me
that 'cori' had made an appearance here,
and that that was (somehow ), scaring me off...
so umm, where is it now, and why did it appear
when 'they' knew,
I was off, up and about in the real world ?
that
'cori' had made an appearance here, and that that was (somehow
), scaring me off...so umm, where is
it now, and why did it appearwhen
'they' knew, I was off, up and about in the real world
?
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