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MoMo Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:08 pm

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Agriculture & Water Use — 1997
Arab Higher Committee for Palestine Rejects Johnston Plan
Arab Summit Decides to Divert Jordan River
Cabinet Approves Emergency Plan to Increase the Production of Desalinated Water (1/30/2011)
Development of Limited Water Resources: Historical and Technological Aspects
Groundwater in Israel
Israel To Build Second Water Desalination Plant
Israel, Jordan Agree to Protect Gulf
Israel Turns Over Gaza Water Processing Facility to Palestinians
Israel and Turkey Sign Landmark Water Accord (8/6/02)
Israel Signs Water Deal With Turkey (3/4/04)
Turkey & Israel Sign Water Deal (1/00)
Israel Water Rights
Israel Water Source [map]
Israel's Chronic Water Problem
Israel's Water Supply [map]
Israeli Agro-Technology
Israeli Response To Arab League Plan To Divert Jordan
The Johnston Mission
Joint Israel-Palestinian Call to Protect Water Supply
Multilateral Working Group on Water Resources Muscat, Oman (April 17-19, 1994)
Multilateral Working Group on Water Resources, Greece (November 9, 1994)
Multilateral Working Groups on Water Resources and the Environment Amman, Jordan (June 22, 1995)
Multilateral Working Group on Water Resources, Hammamet, Tunisia (May 16, 1996)
Oil-Spill Cooperation
Overview of Middle East Water Resources
Rehabilitation of Israel's Rivers
River Water Quality in Israel
Seawater Desalination Projects: The Challenge and the Options to Meet the Water Shortage
Sister Lakes Project
United Nations Security Council Resolution S/3128 (Israel suspends work on River Jordan Project)
Water — Introduction
Watering a Thirsty Planet
The Water Issue in the West Bank and Gaza
Water Map of Israel and the Territories
The Water Resources Working Group
Water — Introduction

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Located on the edge of a desert belt, Israel has always suffered a scarcity of water. Archeological discoveries in the Negev and other parts of the country reveal that local inhabitants thousands of years ago were already concerned with water conservation, as evidenced by a variety of systems, designed to both collect and store rainwater and transfer it from one place to another.

The total annual renewable water resources amount to some 60 billion cubic feet (1.7 billion cu.m.), of which about 75 percent is used for irrigation and the balance for urban and industrial purposes. The country's water sources consist of the Jordan River, Lake Kinneret and a few small river systems. Natural springs and underground water tables, tapped in controlled quantities to prevent depletion and salination, are also utilized. As maximum use has been made of all freshwater sources, ways are being developed to exploit marginal water resources through the recycling of waste water, cloud-seeding and desalination of brackish water.

The National Water Carrier
To overcome regional imbalances in water availability, most of Israel's freshwater sources are joined in an integrated grid. Its central artery, the National Water Carrier, completed in 1964, brings water from the north and central regions, through a network of giant pipes, aqueducts, open canals, reservoirs, tunnels, dams and pumping stations, to the semi-arid south.

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true lilly Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:25 pm

This is NOT a 'typo' of 'tintin's',
that I've highlighted here:

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.

Richard Wagner
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.
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ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK has not 'died'.
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was BORN 96 years
AFTER RICHARD WAGNER

32 years, 5 months, 9 days after
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was born,
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK, KILLED...8 + 69 = 77...
or so we are now, officially told...but "tintin" ALWAYS IGNORES
ALL NUMBERS and DATES that DON'T SUIT the CODED ORDERS
HE SENDS AT THE TIME..and, "tintin" CODES 'speak to' different
people, at different 'levels'...the simple messages, to the simple,
'dumb bunnies', 'raised' to be sacrificed, with the computer code,
behind the simple public posts, for those he doesn't want dead, YET.

...and in this post, "TINTIN" IS CALLING "CELLS" of his,
("dumb bunny", bitterly waiting to stop pretending,
that they 'love' the men they 'got in with'), WOmen to KILL...

(full post at link;#29876)

tintin wrote: 30-07-2011, 07:10 PM#29876

Playboy Rabbit Hole

We are in the year of the RABBIT and that's the RABBI link
to ISRAEL and to the RABBIT HOLE and UTOYA is in HOLE municipality.

TRISTAN was the killer in ALPHEN.

Wagner

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.

Richard Wagner

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.

WAGNER died on 13 FEBRUARY 1883 in CA' VENDRAMIN in VENICE.

Ca' Vendramin: Casino

Ca' Vendramin is the CASINO of VENICE.

The CASINO ROYALE link to NORWAY.

...and I must trust God,
has called those who need to know,
to protect themselves from such WOmen.

MoMo Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:27 pm

true lilly wrote:It's all just endlessly and
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The family moved to Victoria, Australia in the early 1960s.

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MoMo Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:29 pm

Be that as it may, the fact remains that lillys head is permanantly embedded so far up her own ass that she sees nothing but poo. thumbs up

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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background

Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.

This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.

Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis

Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.

If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.

Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.

This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.

49c: Cinderella, part 3:

The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.

Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.

Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).

We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.

Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.

Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.

Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."

49d: Cinderella, part 4:

Exile and Redemption

The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.

Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:

"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)

This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"

"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)

Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,

"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)

Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.

We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.

The Dry Bones

Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.

"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."

A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:

"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"

Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.

Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:

Exile and Redemption

I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.

We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,

"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."

This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.

The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when

"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)

A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.

"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)

Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.

And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."

The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.

Cinderella and her sisters

Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.

Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.

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Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do Wink

),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,

cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. Rolling Eyes

,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.

P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.

P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
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BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus,

list NOT exhaustive.

true lilly wrote:...mmm...yesss...strange news...

August 6
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2011 – A student is sitting on her couch with a wool sweater and socks in Ankara at 3 a.m....

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David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA 2

"NINNY" alright...the lot of 'them'...
__________________________
Quote: ninny...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2816

Originally Posted by tintin
THANKSGIVING means TURKEYS.

rofl. does she have an iPhone in her hand?
___________________________________________________________________
Stanley Melbourne Bruce's Cigarette Case

Stanley Melbourne Bruce was born into a wealthy commercial family,
and was an outstanding athlete at school and later Cambridge University,
where he qualified as a barrister.

He was in England when war was declared in 1914, and enlisted in the
British Army. He was awarded the Military Cross, a high order award for
bravery in battle, at Gallipoli.

He was wounded and returned to Australia in 1917. He entered the
Commonwealth Parliament in 1918, and served as Treasurer,
and then Prime Minister.
He served as Australia’s High Commissioner to Britain between
1933 and 1945.

Until the day he died,
Stanley Melbourne Bruce
kept two photographs in his study –
one of his wife and one of
Turkish President Mustafa Kemal Atatürk,
the founder of the modern Turkish state.
As young men they were enemies at Gallipoli, but during the post-war years
of international reconstruction, they forged a mutual admiration as
passionate advocates of secularism.

After the League of Nations Montreux conference in 1936,
that successfully organised the international passage of warships
through the Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits of Turkey,
Atatürk presented Bruce
with a gold cigarette case, which
he treasured for the rest of his life.

Stanley Melbourne Bruce (1883 – 1967) was
Prime Minister of Australia from February 1923 to October 1929
Stanley Melbourne Bruce’s cigarette case is held
at the National Archives of Australia in Canberra
http://dl.nfsa.gov.au/module/1174/

Gold cigarette case from the Duke and Duchess of York
Albert,
the Duke of York (later King George VI)
formally opened Parliament
House in Canberra on 9 May 1927.
To mark the occasion, the Duke and
Duchess presented Prime Minister Bruce
with a gold cigarette case
featuring a diamond monogram ‘EA’ –
Elizabeth and Albert.
(Photographer: Angus Kendon)......
BUT... HE KEPT Atatürk's
as his Life Long Treasure...

...but 'they' have ALWAYS IGNORED THESE REAL CONNECTIONS
BETWEEN REAL WORLD CHANGERS...even though 'they' could play
'their' MISLEADING GAME of TWISTING WORDS & MEANINGS,
that 'just happens' to tie in with 'their',
BACARDI/BAT/BATMAN/JOKER 'links' in those posts...
i.e. BRUCE (Wayne)=MELBOURNE=BATMAN...

John Batman (21 January 1801 – 6 May 1839)...When he found the current site of central Melbourne
he noted in his diary,
"This will be the place for a village."^[1]^[2]
and declared the land "Batmania"...

was an Australian grazier, businessman and explorer
who is best known for his role in the founding of a settlement
which became Melbourne and the colony of Victoria.1880s Artist impression of Batman's Treaty being signed
His parents, William and Mary Batman,
came to Sydney in 1797 aboard the Ganges.
John was born in 1801 at Rosehill, Parramatta
(now a suburb of Sydney).
In 1821 John and brother Henry journeyed to
Van Diemen's Land (now known as Tasmania)
to settle on land in the north-east near Ben Lomond
LOTS here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batman

Bust of Stanley Bruce
by sculptor Wallace Anderson
located in the
Prime Minister's Avenue
in the Ballarat Botanical Gardens.

Maritime Industries crisis

Prime Minister Bruce holding a meeting with
Prime Minister-elect Scullin a day before Scullin's swearing in.

...An independent liberal candidate's preferences flowed mostly to
Holloway, thus making Bruce the first sitting Prime Minister to lose his
seat. The only other sitting Australian prime minister to be defeated
in his own electorate is John Howard, at the 2007 election.

Bruce divided the rest of his life between London and Melbourne.
He remained Australian High Commissioner until 1945;
subsequently he represented Australia on various UN bodies,
and his name was considered for the position of
United Nations Secretary-General.

He was the chairman of the World Food Council for five years.

Bruce was appointed as the first Chancellor of the Australian National University
and served from 1951 until 1961.

...funny to, that WIKI's "RANDOM" articles, brought me here last night:

Archibald Fisken CMG
OBE

Member of the Australian Parliament
for Ballaarat
Fisken was born at Ballarat, Victoria,
to grazier Archibald James Fisken and Beatrice Mary, née Wanliss.
He attended E.N. Maryatt's Church of England Grammar School for Boys,
Ballarat College and Geelong Church of England Grammar School
before his 1916 commission in the Royal Field Artillery.

He served on the Western Front from 1916 to 1918;
in 1918 he was awarded the Military Cross and promoted to lieutenant,
although he was also wounded.

Returning from the war,
Fisken maintained the family property
(Lal Lal, in the family since 1846)
at Yendon.

He was elected to the Buninyong Shire Council in 1922
and remained a councillor until his death,
being president 1931-32, 1946-47, 1957-58 and 1966-67.

He was prominent in the community, both as a sportsman and as a pastoralist.
He married Elspeth Anne Cameron on 20 February 1924 at Ross, Tasmania.
Fisken retired from parliament in 1937, stating that
he wished to focus on his appointment as
chairman of the Australian Meat Board.

His grandson is
Liberal Senator Michael Ronaldson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Fisken

...and sorry, 'they' have REMOVED KEY Images again, but these,
from 2008 & 2009, are examples of what
REAL, CURRENT CONNECTIONS, IN THE REAL WORLD,
'they' have and continue to ignore...
while PROMOTING 'themselves' "AS GODS"...

Quote:
cori

Yep, those 'KRAFTY KRAUTS'
invent an excuse to make a FALSE 'Israel',
with their JEW SLAUGHTER,
then jump on the RAT LINE to CONTINUE Their EVILS
PROMOTING America as 'The Land',
while quietly continuing to TAKE OVER THE REAL ZION,
by Stealth...

Kraft consumes Cadbury
as Brown warns no
UK job cuts
19/01 20:00 CET
Food
http://www.euronews.net/2010/01/19/k...o-uk-job-cuts/
...oh, and also ask yourselves WHY, after years of
highlighting the SMART INVESTMENTS that 'experts'
advise AGAINST, that cori could NEVER acknowledge
my posts, other than to spit vile, hate filled, bitter,
BALD FACED LIES about my character, AND ASK FOR
ME TO BE BEATEN, AGAIN...IF, "cori" does want The,
TRUE FUTURE NEWS, 'Out There'...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...p?p=1058301387

Will your awkward obsession with me ever stop, Jealousily?
____________________________________________________
Will you ever stop believing
"YOU" ARE The "CORE" of ALL Things GERMANIC
and CONTROL THE WHOLE WORLD and
ALL LANGUAGES...I'm posting about what NONE
of "Your Team" DARE post and
ALWAYS FLOOD OVER when I DO...

The DIRECT, ACTUAL Connection between
KRAFT, VEGEMITE, WAR, BALLARAT and MY HOME
in YENDON, ex East BUNINYONG=CANAAN,
as REVEALED through GOD'S Word and
THE OLDEST LANGUAGES of Australian Natives,
the Oldest Peoples who's History of CREATION
FITS GENESIS.

yes, that's right, reminding folk of yet more
FUTURE NEWS, it HELPS People to KNOW in Advance,
what "you"/"they" BURY, under more CODED MESSAGES
TO "Lone Nutters" to go out on SLAUGHTER Sprees.

Take Heed... - Page 6 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_J8-gwAPmkXsRNlQTUE0_zAtwj7rzl7Om4XFMOaVnE-_ODe5anw

Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...

Take Heed... - Page 6 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_J8-gwAPmkXsRNlQTUE0_zAtwj7rzl7Om4XFMOaVnE-_ODe5anw

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true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
09-12-2009, 12:39 PM #1069
Quote:

Originally Posted by vera susa
Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...

sorry, my google earth won't work...
but it does remind me of an EVIL thought I had
during my HARASSMENT last night...
TATTOOS are Coded Language to...
remember how NAZIS made Lamp Shades
out of HUMAN TATTOOED SKINS...
Ilse Koch

The Bitch of Buchenwald
[loose translation of camp-era nickname
"Hexe"=witch,
used by English press during trial]

This is a picture of a lampshade ...
The drawing is a tattoo that was on the man's chest.
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/...women/ilse.htm
imagine if BABY FUCKERS/TRADERS
were NOT ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE ANY MORE....

evil owl tattoo

Bam's tatt of his google eyed, mumbling,
convicted pedophile uncle Don Vito...
http://forum.tattootattoo.info/index...opic,20.0.html

OUT! OUT! DAMN SPOT...
before you're spotted
and it's too late to turn around

AND EVEN MORE on this page, again, fobbed off as meaningless
by the popular and powerful...and YOU NOW what MEANS!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...1956&page=1698

BTW, 'spot' didn't get out in time...
stayed and stole even more from me,
and now is being 'eaten alive' by the
WITCHES HE GROVELS TO IN FEAR...
BACK IN BLACK...

true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:56 am

2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003

Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.

Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel

Before
(removed)
After
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake
Take Heed... - Page 6 801127-tsunami-anniversary

Take Heed... - Page 6 801127-tsunami-anniversary

People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*

‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011
Take Heed... - Page 6 Pu70

Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011
to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)

A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.
http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137

Take Heed... - Page 6 Image_2

Eureka Street
Ballarat
Australia
3350
Take Heed... - Page 6 Image_0

Take Heed... - Page 6 Eureka_centre_ballarat_001

Take Heed... - Page 6 369776135_fc5ad8de43

...BALLARAT
TURKEY...
Take Heed... - Page 6 Parks-of-ankara-ankara-turkey-333_4

...TURKEY
BALLARAT...
Take Heed... - Page 6 Tren_iarna_zapada

BALLARAT VICTORIA
Take Heed... - Page 6 Eureka-skydeck1

MELBOURNE VICTORIA
Take Heed... - Page 6 289838579_60868c6df1

Eastern evening
Take Heed... - Page 6 4191721049_4c0925682d

Eureka!

Take Heed... - Page 6 2589094247_629239c070

Eureka! Gold
Take Heed... - Page 6 3115566196_73fbc3130e

Swarm

Take Heed... - Page 6 3107090720_3f42466e42

Queen Bee

Take Heed... - Page 6 515645706_4f493e0d65

Eureka Tower, Melbourne
Take Heed... - Page 6 517730915_e395a697f3

Shrine of Remembrance
Take Heed... - Page 6 514341565_5821172dbc

Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck
Take Heed... - Page 6 515645704_dba78e701f

Arts Precinct, Melbourne
Take Heed... - Page 6 514341569_890a2b0707

Government House, Melbourne
Take Heed... - Page 6 514341577_5038cd7aca

Long Shadows
Take Heed... - Page 6 369776135_fc5ad8de43

Eureka Centre, Ballarat
Take Heed... - Page 6 2710108198_80e8ccf17d

Eureka Centre, Ballarat
http://flickriver.com/photos/adonline/tags/eureka/

Take Heed... - Page 6 Image

Take Heed... - Page 6 2673C35BE19A087116F7BA032C030EE6

Take Heed... - Page 6 18D3F16D6FDEC0670CD167ABF92BA3FD

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We also have the entire range of Tintin
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tintin wrote:

11-05-2008, 03:33 PM#4789

It's a Cinderella story.
To whom belong these shoes?

They belong to these
young kids who have a long
FUTURE in front of them.

Cinderella and the.....

The GOLDEN road
to AUSTRALIA

Jenna Bush and Hager
in Crawford Texas.

CINDERELLA Crawford

Cinderella's mother was
Jennifer WALKER
On the SHOE page Cinderella
and Wizard of OZ are
mentioned next to each
other....
Third one (out of three) is the RED SHOES by Hans
Christian Anderson.

Princess Mary Donaldson is
H.C. Anderson Ambassador to
Australia. Three Books on
the shoe page. Cinderella, Wiz
of Oz and the Red Shoes.

H.C. Anderson, Mary Donaldson
and a Suri Cruise with
A RED SHOE

And Tom from Syracuse. And it
was in SYRACRUISE
that Archimedes shouted
EUREKA!!

EUREKA Ballarat
AUSTRALIA

But "tintin" also steals your posts a and doesn't quote the source :
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052

ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...
Take Heed... - Page 6 1

Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor.

TRADITIONAL...

Take Heed... - Page 6 561px-Viennaspottedstallion1740

An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.
Take Heed... - Page 6 962-91-riderless-horse-ft-walsh

Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada

PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...

...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.

Last edited by vera susa; 11-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.

true lilly Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:48 am

IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.

Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do Wink

),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,

cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. Rolling Eyes

,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.

P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.

P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were. Wink

P.P.P.S.
Evil or Very Mad

BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus,

list NOT exhaustive.

MoMo Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:16 am

true lilly wrote:[SIZE="4"][color="red"]"P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
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Bullshit! they should read your Posts so they can see the lies we have refuted with Archeological; Linguistic, Geographical and historical evidence. thumbs up

Mizraim means Egypt. Zion is Israel, NOT Australia thumbs up

Europe is a LARGER Continent then Australia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense? thumbs up

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html

Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim

Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).

Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .

The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.

The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.

The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.

The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.

The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.

Bible Dictionary

Mizraim definition

the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.

Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim
Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.

Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).

According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]

According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.

But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.

In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]

However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]

Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)

A. The descendants of Japheth.

1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.

2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.

The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.

a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.

b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.

c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.

d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.

e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.

3. (3) The sons of Gomer.

The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.

a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.

b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.

4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).

The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.

a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.

B. The descendants of Ham.

1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.

The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.

a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.

b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.

[u]c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.

The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).

a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”

b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.

i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)

ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”

iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”

iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)

3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.

Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).

4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.

Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.

a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.

b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.

5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.

These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.

C. The descendants of Shem.

1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.

And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.

a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.

2. (23) The sons of Aram.

The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.

a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.

Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).

3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.

Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.

a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.

b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.

4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.

These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.

These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.

a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice) thumbs up

MIZRAIM = EGYPT

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You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go. thumbs up

http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm

The Truth

We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . . thumbs up

Your LIE!!!!!!!

A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.

If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities. thumbs down

Paul follows his emphatic response with, for I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. . . . What is his point? If God had rejected Israel as His covenant people, then every Israelite would be disqualified from the possibility of being saved; yet he is an Israelite who is saved, and that proves that God has not rejected His people.

To sum up, we have noticed two proofs that God has not rejected Israel as His covenant people:
1. By the very meaning of May it never be! in the way that Paul used it in different contexts.
2. By the fact that Paul was a saved Israelite.

Nevertheless, we'll address several passages that need clarification.

b. Romans 11:1-5

1. I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3. "Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4. But what is the divine response to him? "I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5. In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

Replacement Theology

Its Origins, Teachings and Errors

By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries

(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm

These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yet you, yourself; are the persecuter. You lie about the Jews and their Sacred scriptures and you attempt to steal their identity and destiny, without being able to read/write Hebrew. Your ignorance and hubris is appalling Capiche? thumbs up

MoMo Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:18 am

Zion/Zionism thumbs up

JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD

http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm

Some theologies, e.g., ancient Epicureanism and modern Deism, believe in a god, or gods, but think they have nothing much to do with the world in which we live. Others, like Stoicism, believe that god, or “the divine,” or “the sacred” is simply a dimension of our world, so that “god” and the world end up being pretty much the same thing. Both of these can give birth to practical or theoretical atheism. The first can let its “god” get so far away that he disappears. This is what happened with Marx and Feuerbach in the nineteenth century, allowing the “absentee landlord” of eighteenth-century Deism to become simply an absentee. The second can get so used to various “gods” around the place that it ceases to care much about them. This is what happened with a good deal of ancient paganism in Greece and Rome, until, as Pliny wryly remarks, the arrival of Christianity stirred up pagans to a fresh devotion to their gods.[9]

The Jews believed in a quite different “god.” This god, YHWH, “the One Who Is,” the Sovereign One, was not simply the objectification of forces and drives within the world, but was the maker of all that exists. Several biblical books, or parts thereof, are devoted to exploring the difference between YHWH and the pagan idols: Daniel, Isaiah 40-55, and a good many Psalms spring obviously to mind. The theme is summed up in the Jewish daily prayer: “YHWH our God, YHWH is one!”[10]

Classic Jewish monotheism, then, believed that (a) there was one God, who created heaven and earth and who remained in close and dynamic relation with his creation; and that (b) this God had called Israel to be his special people. This twin belief, tested to the limit and beyond through Israel’s checkered career, was characteristically expressed through a particular narrative: the chosen people were also the rescued people, liberated from slavery in Egypt, marked out by the gift of Torah, established in their land, exiled because of disobedience, but promised a glorious return and final settlement. Jewish-style monotheism meant living in this story and trusting in this one true God, the God of creation and covenant, of Exodus and Return.

This God was utterly different from the pantheist’s “one god.” This is an important point to note: many, including many scholars, have blithely assumed that because Stoics and others talked about “one god” they were saying the same thing as the Jews. This God was also utterly different from the far-away ultra-transcendent gods of the Epicureans. Always active within his world, did he not feed the young ravens when they called upon him?[11]—he could be trusted to act more specifically on behalf of Israel. His eventual overthrow of pagan power at the political would be the revelation of his overthrow of the false gods of the nations. His vindication of his people, liberating them finally from all their oppressors, would also be the vindication of his own name and reputation. In justifying his people, he would himself be justified. In his righteousness, his covenant faithfulness, they would find their own.

This monotheism was never, in our period, an inner analysis of the being of the one God. It was always a way of saying, frequently at great risk: our God is the true God, and your gods are worthless idols. It was a way of holding on to hope. We can see the dynamic of this monotheism working its way out in the manifold crises of second-temple Judaism, with the Maccabees, Judas the Galilean, and above all the two wars of the late 60s and early 130s A.D. revealing how the creational and covenantal theology and worldview remained at work through the period and in different groups.

This God was both other than the world and continually active within it. The words “transcendent” and “immanent,” we should note, are pointers to this double belief, but do not clarify it much. Because this God is thus simultaneously other than his people and present with them, Jews of Jesus’ day had developed several ways of speaking about the activity of this God in which they attempted to hold together, because they dared not separate, these twin truths. Emboldened by deep-rooted traditions, they explored what appears to us a strange, swirling sense of a rhythm of mutual relations within the very being of the one God: a to-and-fro, a give-and-take, a command-and-obey, a sense of love poured out and love received. God’s Spirit broods over the waters, God’s Word goes forth to produce new life, God’s Law guides his people, God’s Presence or Glory dwells with them in fiery cloud, in tabernacle and temple. These four ways of speaking moved to and fro from metaphor to trembling reality-claim and back again. They enabled Jews to speak simultaneously of God’s sovereign supremacy and his intimate presence, of his unapproachable holiness and his self-giving compassionate love.

Best known of all is perhaps a fifth. God’s Wisdom is his handmaid in creation, the firstborn of his works, his chief of staff, his delight. God’s Wisdom is another way of talking about God present with his people in the checkered careers of the patriarchs and particularly in the events of the Exodus. Wisdom becomes closely aligned thereby with Torah and Shekinah.[12] Through the Lady Wisdom of Proverbs 1-8, the creator has fashioned everything, especially the human race. To embrace Wisdom is therefore to discover the secret of being truly human, of reflecting God’s image.[13]............................Out of all this, I have argued in various places that we can, as historians, properly reconstruct Jesus of Nazareth’s sense of vocation. We can study John the Baptist’s vocation, and Paul’s: why should we not study Jesus’? When we do so, we find that dozens and dozens of lines of inquiry converge to produce a well ordered, coherent, historically credible sense of vocation, emerging in central symbolic actions, hinted at in a hundred cryptic and teasing sayings. Jesus believed he was Israel’s Messiah, the one in whom Israel’s history was to be summed up. Jesus believed he would win the messianic victory over the real enemy and would build the true messianic temple through taking Israel’s fate upon himself and going to the cross. Jesus believed that in doing so he was not just pointing to or talking about, but was actually embodying, the return of YHWH to Zion. These, though striking and startling, emerge from the world of Second Temple Judaism like the flower growing suddenly out of the plant. They were not expected, but upon inspection this is where they belonged. All the elements of the package were around somewhere in the culture. They are not, repeat not, a retrojection of later Christian theology, not even of later NT theology, which by and large developed in other legitimate ways. They are only credible, but they are totally credible, as the historically reconstructed mindset of Jesus himself. And they form, not the substance of later atonement and incarnational theology, but its historical starting point.

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I have argued elsewhere that a central feature of Jewish expectation, and kingdom expectation at that, in Jesus’ time was the hope that YHWH would return in person to Zion. Having abandoned Jerusalem at the time of the exile, his return was delayed, but he would come back at last. Within this context, someone who told cryptic stories about a king or a master who went away, left his servants with tasks to perform, and then returned to see how they were getting on must—not “might,” must point to this controlling, over-arching metanarrative. Of course, the later Church, forgetting the first century Jewish context, read such stories as though they were originally about Jesus himself going away and then returning in a “second coming.” Of course, cautious scholars noticing this, deny that Jesus would have said such things. I propose that here at the heart of Jesus’ work, and at the moment of its climax, Jesus not only told stories about the king, who came back to Zion to judge and to save. He acted as though he thought the stories were coming true in what he himself was accomplishing. This is the context, at last, in which I think it best to approach the question with which this essay began.........................................And Jesus seems to have believed it about himself. The language was deeply coded, but the symbolic action was not. He was coming to Zion, doing what YHWH had promised to do. He explained his action with riddles all pointing in the same direction. Recognize this, and you start to see it all over the place, especially in parables and actions whose other layers have preoccupied us. Why, after all, does Jesus tell a story about a yearning father in order to account for his own behavior?[36] It is this that also accounts for his sovereign attitude to Torah, his speaking on behalf of Wisdom, and his announcement of forgiveness of sins.[37] By themselves none of these would be conclusive. Even if they are allowed to stand as words and actions of Jesus, they remain cryptic. But predicate them of the same young man who is then on his way to Jerusalem to confront the powers that be with the message and the action of the kingdom of God and who tells stories as he does which are best interpreted as stories of YHWH returning to Zion, then you have reached. I believe, the deep heart of Jesus’ own sense of vocation. He believed himself called to do and be what in the scriptures only Israel’s God did and was.

..................................What are we therefore saying about the earthly Jesus? In Jesus himself, I suggest we see the biblical portrait of YHWH come to life: the loving God, rolling up his sleeves (Isa 52:10) to do in person the job that no one else could do, the creator God giving new life the God who works through his created world and supremely through his human creatures, the faithful God dwelling in the midst of his people, the stern and tender God relentlessly opposed to all that destroys or distorts the good creation, and especially human beings, but recklessly loving all those in need and distress. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd; he shall carry the lambs in his arms; and gently lead those that are with young” (Isa 40:11). It is the OT portrait of YHWH, but it fits Jesus like a glove. ...............

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Apparently you don't know shit about 'ZION'. thumbs up

http://mashiyach.com/

The Kingdom of Elohim is represented by Tsiyon (pronounced Tsee-yone or Zion in English), a literal place in Jerusalem, that symbolizes a spiritual place, the seat of Mashiyach's government on this earth. Originally Zion was a small location in Jerusalem, then it became a code name for the whole city of Jerusalem.

For it is said in the Scripture, “Behold, in Tsiyon I lay a chosen and precious stone for the head of the corner; and whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.” On you therefore who believe is this honor conferred: but to them who do not believe “he is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” And they stumble at it because they believe not the Word from where they were appointed. But you are an elect race, officiating as priests of the Kingdom; a Set Apart people, a redeemed congregation; that you should proclaim the praises of him who called you out of darkness to his precious light: who formerly were not counted as a people but now are the people of Elohim; and also, there were (once) no mercies on you but now mercies are poured out upon you. My beloved, I entreat you as strangers and pilgrims, separate yourselves from all lusts of the body, for they war against the soul. And let your behavior be honorable before all men; so that they who utter evil speeches against you, may see your good actions and may praise Elohim in the day of trial. And be submissive to all the sons of men, for Elohim’s sake; to kings, on account of their authority; and to judges because they are sent by him for the punishment of offenders, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of Elohim, that by your good deeds you may stop the mouth of the foolish who do not know Elohim: As free men, you are not like men who make their freedom a cloak for their wickedness, but as the servants of Elohim. 1 Peter 2:6-16

Throughout Scripture we read of a Kingdom that is not of this earth, but it is shaped from the pattern that is in Heaven. The tabernacle in the wilderness was built according to the specifications that YHWH gave to Moses and within that tabernacle, each of the physical elements are symbols of the spiritual or heavenly Kingdom. It is also interesting to note that Zion is mentioned in 153 verses in the Tanakh... this is the same number of fish the disciples caught in John 21:11. The symbolism is clear, Yeshua taught his disciples how to build the Kingdom of Heaven, as opposed to a religion "about" the Kingdom of Heaven, a very big difference.

We are being trained to know what Tsiyon is, and what it is not. No religion or people's groups have exclusive rights to Tsiyon, it belongs to the people of Mashiyach regardless of religion, race, color or creed. The Government of Tsiyon is on the shoulder of Mashiyach. Mashiyach is returning to the Mount of Olives from whence he departed, but this time round Scripture tells us he will be Mashiyach Ben David a much different scenario than when he first came to earth.

There is the Israel of Elohim (spiritual) and there is the other kingdom of Israel of the flesh. Not all who are Israel of the flesh are the Israel of Elohim. If we can look at Jews, Christians or Muslims without judging them by their religion or race, then we are getting closer to ZION, as how it is revealed in Mashiyach. The Kingdom of Elohim is a government, NOT a religion.

Tsiyon is also the place in our neshama (spirit) where we connect with Mashiyach where our heart receives and gives love for all of Creation, where we can see all others through the eyes of Mashiyach and carry no prejudice towards anyone. The Kingdom is within us, it is not an external government or religion.

You're claim that Israel is an insignificant strip of sand illuminates your ignorance. Israel is the Left/Western Arm of the fertile Crescent..........the Israelites have even made the southern desert areas bloom due to hard work, a foreign concept to you. thumbs up

http://www.zionism-israel.com/

What is Zionism?
Zionism is the political movement that is implementing the national liberation of the Jewish people. It is based on the assertion that the Jewish people, like any other people, has the right to self-determination; Jews have a right to a national home in their historic homeland. Zionism has made a reality of the "impossible" project of restoration of the Jewish people to our homeland, after nearly 2,000 years of exile. The work of Zionism is far from complete, however.

Zionism has always been a part of Judaism
The ideological and cultural foundations of Zionism have always been present in Jewish tradition. Jews always thought of themselves as a nation or people. The concept of "am Yisrael" - the "people of Israel" or "nation of Israel," has been inherent in Jewish culture from ancient times. Jewish cultural and religious life always centered around the land of Israel. This did not change during two millennia of dispersion.

You're welcome in advance, thumbs up

true lilly Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:11 pm

ringy and ninny riding on a flea
stab, stab, stabbing at we and thee
first came icke
then came cruise
then came tintin with a bloody rusty knife...

...sick, twisted, blood lusting parasites...

...like all who are insanely proud to
share the 'voice' & 'message' of that, boastfully,
murderously jealous of all things good,
creature, 'cori' Take Heed... - Page 6 943134

ringy wrote:
08-08-2011, 02:10 PM #30065

Originally Posted by ninny

awesome, tintin.

Shouldn't that be AAA (triple awesome)
or ABB (awesome, bloody brilliant)

Keep it up Tintin, I like your October links.

dixie d wrote:08-08-2011, 02:21 PM #30066

Originally Posted by ringy

Shouldn't that be AAA (triple awesome)
or ABB (awesome, bloody brilliant)

Keep it up Tintin, I like your October links.

Would that be The Hunt for Red October, or maybe the The Hunt for Red Octorber (film)

Quote:
The Hunt for Red October is a 1990 thriller film based on the novel
of the same name by Tom Clancy. It was directed by John McTiernan and
stars Sean Connery as Captain Marko Ramius and Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan.

stormrider73 wrote:08-08-2011, 02:48 PM #30067
That ABB thing is realy scary

Watch that ABB logo in this video @ time 08:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2EqpSFpqSJc

Looks like after reading some of David Icke books and been on that forum I became "illuminated"! Can I join Illuminati now? And how much they are gonna pay?

I love you, brits! I love The Queen

Conspiracy Theorists of all nations - unite!
__________________
To Faith, Tsar and HomelandLast edited by stormrider73; 08-08-2011 at 02:49 PM.

It's one thing to be a good soldier,
it's quite another to 'get off' on
the mass slaughter of innocents,
only because YOU 'get off' on
the mass slaughter of innocents...

...the former exist to 'sort' the latter...

PSALMS 90:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=90&v=8&t=KJV#8
8
You have set our errors right in front of you,
Our hidden things before your bright face.
9
For all our days have come to their decline in your fury;
We have finished our years just like a whisper.
10
In themselves the days of our years are seventy years;
And if because of special mightiness they are eighty years,
Yet their insistence is on trouble and hurtful things;
For it must quickly pass by, and away we fly.
11
Who is there knowing the strength of your anger
And your fury according to the fear of you?
12
Show [us] just how to count our days in such a way
That we may bring a heart of wisdom in.
13
Do return, O Jehovah! How long will it be?
And feel regret over your servants.
14
Satisfy us in the morning with your loving-kindness,
That we may cry out joyfully and may rejoice during all our days.
15
Make us rejoice correspondingly to the days that you have afflicted us,
The years that we have seen calamity.
16
May your activity appear to your own servants
And your splendor upon their sons.
17
And let the pleasantness of Jehovah our God prove to be upon us,
And the work of our hands do you firmly establish upon us.
Yes, the work of our hands, do you firmly establish it.

...oh, and an interesting aside;
my computer setting was externally changed,
to NOT show the links to 'Strong's' dictionary
of the Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words
we read in various bible translations, to 'be',
The Word's of God, and to 'notify me' that those
links would NOT be available for some time.

And if it were not for how often I get hacked,
I would not have thought to set it back
to provide those links for those who do
care to study God's Word for themselves.

So, Thanks, 'you', subtle as a sledgehammer,
hackers of my life, for making it clear that
'you' REALLY DO FEAR THE TRUTH OF GOD
EXPOSING 'YOUR' TREACHERY TOWARDS
the recruits 'YOU' DECEITFULLY SEDUCE,
into FIGHTING GOD TO THEIR DEATH.

P.S. interesting to, that I didn't see 'billy's'
SPAM of WHORES before writing this...
is poor 'cori' still waiting for 'her' personal
visit from 'her' demon lord, 'tintin'...idiot Rolling Eyes

he doesn't waste his time trying to seduce
those already sucked up his arse, it's only
those of us who do threaten exposing his
inherent evil, that he fears enough to hunt. Razz

...and now I'll take a little break to read
some of 'billy's' texts that he's spamming
my phone with... Razz

...ah, nothing but screaming,
but I do believe his mental health providers should
send the C.A.T. Team around before it's too late.

Billy Ruben Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:26 pm

Uh-huh?
What are you really jealous of with Tintin,success obviously...you go on about it enough.Poor bastard,pickling himself on Ozzie wine,enduring your sermonic assaults,night after night...poor bastard.Not much of a holiday was it there old chap,at least I'd tell you up front,don't bother,Taree is a shithole,unless you like skiing shark infested estuaries and rivers...

If you like gambling on horses,boozing up,brawling,then Taree is the place for you...otherwise,keep driving up the Pacific Hwy... butt

true lilly Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:36 pm

Friday July 22,2011
UK NEWS

BRITAIN ‘MUST TAKE MORE MIGRANTS’

Take Heed... - Page 6 260379_1

Eurocrats are demanding
that Britain welcomes more immigrants

Cecilia Malmstrom says
immigration
and visa-free travel
are essential
to boost economic fortune
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/260379/260379

Thursday August 11,2011
UK NEWS

RETAILERS ARE COUNTING THE
£392MILLION COST

Take Heed... - Page 6 264272_1

Across England could cost retailers
an astonishing £392million,
new figures show

Chris Simpson of Kelkoo said:
“UK retailers are sadly
going to feel the fallout
of this week’s riots
for several months.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/264272/Retailers-are-counting-the-392million-cost

...and I'll go 'he' if this bloke,
(who's, 'don't be yucky to dogs' story,
TOPS THIS LIST of UK NEWS), doesn't
LOOK LIKE and GIVE OFF The STENCH
of David Icke...

MORE UK NEWS
Take Heed... - Page 6 264250_1

Trainer gave his dog Viagra to win races
A CROOKED greyhound trainer who used drugs
to fix races has been banned from kee...
• Read More
Take Heed... - Page 6 CommentBubble

Have Your Say(0)

Take Heed... - Page 6 264271_1

Student mugged by yobs who ‘helped’ him has op
AN injured student robbed by looters
as they pretended to come to his aid unde...
• Read More
Take Heed... - Page 6 CommentBubble

Have Your Say(0)
Don't think this related?

I know it is.

I Posted to WATCH for it, years ago.

UK NEWS
Monday August 8,2011
ZARA PHILLIPS' TEARFUL
GOODBYE
TO TRUSTY TOYTOWN
Take Heed... - Page 6 263624_1

Zara and Toytown go for gold at World
Equestrian Games in 2006
By Sarah Cox

THEY have shared more than a decade
of highs and lows in the world of showjumping.
But now Zara Phillips has bid farewell to Toytown.
After 12 years together, the chestnut gelding
described by Zara as “the horse of a lifetime”
formally retired in an emotional ceremony yesterday.
She said: “I think it will be quite difficult. It’s the end of an era.
He was the horse of a lifetime for me. We grew up together.”
Zara, 30, paraded her beloved horse around the arena
at Gatcombe’s Festival of British Eventing for the last time
yesterday afternoon.
The pair shared success when they were crowned World
Eventing champions five years ago and took home gold and
silver medals at the 2006 World Equestrian Games,
but they never made it to the Olympics despite several
attempts.
A leg injury forced Toytown out of the running
for the 2004 Athens Olympics
and an injury during final preparations
for the 2008 Beijing Olympics forced
the pair to give up their place in the British team.
The royal newlywed has postponed her honeymoon
with husband Mike Tindall,
32, and is reportedly busy looking at “two or three”
newhorses, one of which she hopes
will take to the podium
at the London Olympics in 2012.
She has said: “I have had my horse of a lifetime.
The horses I have had since then have been in a massive shadow.”
Toytown,
who was bought for Zara by her father Captain Mark Philips,
will now live at her motherPrincess Anne’s
estate at Gatcombe Park,
Gloucestershire.

Zara coming to Australia
...the $11 billion empire
is finally making its way to Australia.
13 Apr 2011
15 Jul 2010
3 Sep 2007
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ZARA+comes+to+Australia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Yeah, I know, it's a different "ZARA",
so what, it's a different "TOY TOWN",
but The News Behind The News
In Both News Stories,
calls out the same message, to hearing ears. Wink

true lilly wrote:ringy and ninny riding on a flea
stab, stab, stabbing at we and thee
first came icke
then came cruise
then came tintin with a bloody rusty knife...

...sick, twisted, blood lusting parasites...

...like all who are insanely proud to
share the 'voice' & 'message' of that, boastfully,
murderously jealous of all things good,
creature, 'cori'
ringy wrote:
08-08-2011, 02:10 PM #30065

Originally Posted by ninny

awesome, tintin.

Shouldn't that be AAA (triple awesome)
or ABB (awesome, bloody brilliant)

Keep it up Tintin, I like your October links.

dixie d wrote:08-08-2011, 02:21 PM #30066

Originally Posted by ringy

Shouldn't that be AAA (triple awesome)
or ABB (awesome, bloody brilliant)

Keep it up Tintin, I like your October links.

Would that be The Hunt for Red October, or maybe the The Hunt for Red Octorber (film)

Quote:
The Hunt for Red October is a 1990 thriller film based on the novel
of the same name by Tom Clancy. It was directed by John McTiernan and
stars Sean Connery as Captain Marko Ramius and Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan.
stormrider73 wrote:08-08-2011, 02:48 PM #30067
That ABB thing is realy scary

Watch that ABB logo in this video @ time 08:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2EqpSFpqSJc

Looks like after reading some of David Icke books and been on that forum I became "illuminated"! Can I join Illuminati now? And how much they are gonna pay?

I love you, brits! I love The Queen

Conspiracy Theorists of all nations - unite!
__________________
To Faith, Tsar and HomelandLast edited by stormrider73; 08-08-2011 at 02:49 PM.

It's one thing to be a good soldier,
it's quite another to 'get off' on
the mass slaughter of innocents,
only because YOU 'get off' on
the mass slaughter of innocents...

...the former exist to 'sort' the latter...

PSALMS 90:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=90&v=8&t=KJV#8
8
You have set our errors right in front of you,
Our hidden things before your bright face.
9
For all our days have come to their decline in your fury;
We have finished our years just like a whisper.
10
In themselves the days of our years are seventy years;
And if because of special mightiness they are eighty years,
Yet their insistence is on trouble and hurtful things;
For it must quickly pass by, and away we fly.
11
Who is there knowing the strength of your anger
And your fury according to the fear of you?
12
Show [us] just how to count our days in such a way
That we may bring a heart of wisdom in.
13
Do return, O Jehovah! How long will it be?
And feel regret over your servants.
14
Satisfy us in the morning with your loving-kindness,
That we may cry out joyfully and may rejoice during all our days.
15
Make us rejoice correspondingly to the days that you have afflicted us,
The years that we have seen calamity.
16
May your activity appear to your own servants
And your splendor upon their sons.
17
And let the pleasantness of Jehovah our God prove to be upon us,
And the work of our hands do you firmly establish upon us.
Yes, the work of our hands, do you firmly establish it.

...oh, and an interesting aside;
my computer setting was externally changed,
to NOT show the links to 'Strong's' dictionary
of the Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words
we read in various bible translations, to 'be',
The Word's of God, and to 'notify me' that those
links would NOT be available for some time.

And if it were not for how often I get hacked,
I would not have thought to set it back
to provide those links for those who do
care to study God's Word for themselves.

So, Thanks, 'you', subtle as a sledgehammer,
hackers of my life, for making it clear that
'you' REALLY DO FEAR THE TRUTH OF GOD
EXPOSING 'YOUR' TREACHERY TOWARDS
the recruits 'YOU' DECEITFULLY SEDUCE,
into FIGHTING GOD TO THEIR DEATH.

true lilly Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:46 pm

MAKING and PROVING a case,
WITH MUCH, GATHERED, INDISPUTABLE Evidence
FROM BOTH SIDES, is NOT "spamming".

...that's what all 'your' cats, porn and
'you must believe only the torah' BS, IS! Rolling Eyes

and so, DAVID ICKE SITE DOWN...AGAIN...BECAUSE...

true lilly wrote:Always happens when 'THEY' SHOW THEIR HAND TOO EARLY
... Little Emergency, 'HOW THE flippin' heck DO WE FIX THIS!',
'DIScusions' have to be had. Tintin was too quick to PUBLICLY POST that
his thread "IS GOD'S/GODS' WORD", The NEW WORLD BIBLE...and so, IT IS,
The NEW SPANISH CATHOLIC INQUISITION for All who Don't Bow to HIS god of
LEGIONS of DEMONS.

rodin wrote:Brevik has had a job done on his nose. This stinks of the Loughner guy who had a sikut in his back yard
PS
Anyone here think Giffords was really shot in the head? I have a bridge to sell you currently safe from burning London

THE First WAR:
The Creator Father's children TURNED ON HIM.
GOD WON.

THE First MURDER:
BROTHER Cain MURDERS BROTHER Able.

ISAAC & ISHMAEL, JACOB & ESAU, and so on and on;
ALL THE OLDEST and WORST WARS,
WERE and ARE, BETWEEN FAMILIES,
SEPARATED BY SPIRIT, NOT BLOOD!

Hence the UN-believable
CRAP 'work' 'of' 'DAN BROWN'
and The ICKEST RELIGION et al
(yep, that means 'you' to 'rodin'),
being SHOVED DOWN THE WORLD'S THROAT,
PROMOTED and PROTECTED by a LEGION of
DEATH WORSHIPERS, in 'their' last ditch,
DOOMED TO FAIL, DESPERATE EFFORT
to try to deceive, even, The Very Elect,
with all that "bloodline" BULLSHIT!

And part of why this Genuine Expert,
Breeder of Champions, is so heavily
attacked and silenced by 'them'...
I PROVED GOD'S TRUTH
(with what I produced),
by NOT DENYING HIS LIVING WORD,
and GIVING HIM ALL CREDIT FOR
those Genuine World Record Champions.

true lilly wrote:MAKING and PROVING a case,
WITH MUCH, GATHERED, INDISPUTABLE Evidence
FROM BOTH SIDES, is NOT "spamming".
...that's what all 'your' cats, porn and
'you must believe only the torah' BS, IS!
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:At least 4 confirmed dead now, and another fighting for life...
...and it's the ICKESTS who have preached up this MURDEROUS
MENTALity ...teaching kids to hate the wealthy...while the ICKESTS,
such as 'star poster' "tintin" are swimming in dosh, flying around the world,
enjoying their 5 star lifestyles...telling you to hate and envy those who
actually work for a living...so what, I warned of this and worse years ago...
didn't listen then, won't now...
Birmingham riots:
three men killed 'protecting homes'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8693095/Birmingham-riots-three-men-killed-protecting-homes.html
A murder investigation has been launched
after three people were killed
“doing the job of the police” during widespread rioting.
true lilly wrote:
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote: She Wants Crisps... From Poundland...!!!

Clearly Not The Brains Of The Operation..!!!

That's it, keep ducking and weaving, "THE" Questions
that people NEED TO UNDERSTAND "THE" Answer to...
...at least all the frantic movement may catch the attention
of someone smart enough to realize that;
no one ducks and weaves THAT MUCH for no purpose.

Hey, not my fault people chose to ignore my warning posts
of the actual meaning behind
THE HUGE BOMB ATTACK AGAINST ENGLAND IN CYPRUS,
and
The TWO "DOWNED" RADIO TOWERS IN THE NETHERLANDS
that followed...
...too busy spamming porn and other evils in my warning threads.

Oh well, "LET THE FILTHY, BE FILTHY STILL..."

So, anyone else bother to figure out WHY
that MEGA FAN of FOOTBALL(SOCCER), "tintin"
who posted endless pages of the
SECRET CODE SPEAK of that 'game', has
NOW ALSO MANAGED TO AVOID posting on
THIS GLOBALLY EXPLOSIVE FOOTBALL NEWS
and
WHAT IT REALLY MEANS?

England match cancelled after riots

8:51PM
Rob Woollard
ENGLAND'S soccer friendly
against the
Netherlands was cancelled
after a third day of rioting in London,
officials confirmed.

England match cancelled after London riots
Rob Woollard
From:Herald Sun
August 09, 2011 8:51PM

Wayne
Rooney said: "These riots are nuts. why would people do this to their
own country. Own city. This is embarrassing for our country. Stop
please." Picture: AP

ENGLAND'S soccer friendly against the Netherlands was cancelled after a third day of rioting in London, officials confirmed.

A one-line statement from the Football Association confirmed the
news which followed a meeting between FA officials and police early on
Tuesday concerning security arrangements for Wednesday's match at
Wembley.

"It is with regret that tomorrow's international fixture
with Holland at Wembley (Wednesday 10 August) has been called-off," an
FA statement said, adding that more details would follow later.

The unprecedented decision followed the earlier postponement of League Cup
matches involving West Ham, Charlton and Crystal Palace after police
advice.

England's players were to take part in a training session on Tuesday before returning to their clubs, reports said.

Related Coverage

Friendly: Welsh star no nightmare for Wilkshire
Argentine prodigy: Leo, 7, takes Madrid by storm
A new generation of anarchy rules The Daily Telegraph, 18 minutes ago
10,000 police on streets as Britain burns The Australian, 18 minutes ago
PM vows to end 'sickening' riots Herald Sun, 18 minutes ago
Live - London smoulders after riots Herald Sun, 22 minutes ago
Man dies amid London riot chaos The Daily Telegraph, 58 minutes ago

England star Rio Ferdinand responded to the announcement on micro-blogging site Twitter.

"England vs Holland game is off, good call. Who wants to see a game of football
when our country is in turmoil," Ferdinand wrote.

"The solution to this is not to just clean up the glass, it's to stop the glass
breaking in the first place," Ferdinand added in a separate post.

The Manchester United defender had earlier called for an end to the violence which has raged across Britain.

"The scenes on Sky news right now are shocking...what is this all in aid of??
Innocent peoples homes and livelihoods have gone up in smoke-why?"
Ferdinand said.

"It seems these kids/people have no fear or respect for the police....maybe the army will get that respect??

"And I am not saying bring violence, I am saying the presence of the army
may make these kids/people think twice about continuing this??"

Teammate Wayne Rooney added: "These riots are nuts why would people do this to
there (sic) own country. Own city. This is embarrassing for our country.
Stop please."

British Olympic officials, meanwhile, expressed confidence that London would be
able to host a trouble-free Summer Games next year despite the violence.

"We know the level of work and we know the level of planning that has gone into it,"
British Olympic Association director of communications Darryl Seibel told Sky Sports
News.

"This is not a reflection of London. This is a reflection of the world we live in today."

Police in Birmingham said violence which erupted in the city on Monday would
not impact on the third Test between England and India, due to get under
way at Edgbaston on Wednesday.

England star Kevin Pietersen described the violence in the city as "insane",
revealing that the team's city centre hotel doors had been locked as unrest flared
throughout Birmingham.

"They have just locked our hotel in Birmingham mate... Riots just started here.. Insane!!" Pietersen said in a Twitter message.

England bowler Tim Bresnan added: "Just seen the rioters in Birmingham fleeing
down the main street followed by a load of police in the full get up.
What's going on?"

Spinner Graeme Swann chimed in a message late on Monday:
"Goodnight England.
Good luck to those surrounded by the carnage. Be safe."
My original thread that 'they' spammed to death then
chopped up into many, with 'their' spam filling the lead pages,
and giving the often proven BS excuse that pages can't go
past 68 pages, is now, WAY PAST "68" pages, but still going so 'team them'
can keep spamming it with 'their' murderous propaganda,
and so also PROVING 'them' MONSTROUS LIARS

...so here's a bit more of what 'they' MUST KEEP BURIED and
ARE SCARED SHITLESS 'their' 'friends'=TARGETS, WILL WAKE UP TO...

And just to further make my case...
(something 'you mob' do so well for me here)
while some still have time to GET IT!

true lilly wrote:Long ago, I asked folk to ask themselves
(so they too, may see the truth of God's Word),
"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO?",
and I was banned for continuing to show, where, AND WHY.

See, unlike "tintin" and his ilk, I have nothing to do with
High Finance or picking and choosing figure heads, but,
I do care to study God's Word, and pay a little attention
to what is really going on, in this real world we occupy, as
God Advised Us, For Our Real Lives Sake.

[size=24]Nick Greiner appointed chairman of advisers
at Rothschild Australia

Rothschild Australia
(and 'you' simply won't allow,
THAT Headline, to show up big and bold.
Why, it's all in the public media,
freely available to anyone who can
pull their heads out of Team Tintin's arse
for two seconds )
Michael Bennet
From: The Australian
August 01, 2011 1:18PM

Nick Greiner, a former NSW Premier, is a top adviser at Rothschild.
Source: The Daily Telegraph

ROTHSCHILD has appointed former New South Wales Liberal Premier Nick
Greiner as chairman of its council of advisers at its Australian
business and a senior adviser globally.

The investment bank today said Mr Greiner, who was Premier and
Treasurer of NSW from 1988 to1992, would take up the roles effective
today.

Trevor Rowe, the executive chairman of Rothschild
Australia, said Mr Greiner’s public service and corporate board
experience would be of great value in providing insights to its clients.

Mr Greiner chairs a range of businesses and bodies, including Bradken,
Citigroup Australia and Infrastructure NSW. He is also deputy chairman
of CHAMP Private Equity.

Rothschild Australia recently advised SunRice on the failed takeover of
the group by Ebro Foods, Asahi on its bid for the whole of P&N Beverages,
which was blocked by the competition regulator, and the Queensland government
on its successful float of QR National.

Related Coverage

Spotlight on Rothschild's energy money The Australian, 10 Jun 2011
Slowdown puts brakes on rates The Australian, 31 May 2011
'Greiner role offered to Max the Axe' The Daily Telegraph, 6 May 2011
ALP scared off investors, says Greiner The Australian, 2 May 2011
Super could fund infrastructure The Australian, 2 May 2011

Asahi to pay $1.2b for Independent Liquor
Staff writer
From: AFP
August 08, 2011 12:00AM

JAPANESE beverage giant Asahi Group
reportedly has trumped rival Suntory
in the race to buy Independent Liquor.

Asahi will pay about $1.21 billion to buy the company, which is
headquartered in New Zealand, from private equity companies Pacific
Equity Partners and Unitas as it moves to expand in Asia and Oceania.

Asahi has been touted as a potential rival bidder for Melbourne-based
Foster's Group, which is the target of an informal $9.5 billion takeover
offer from Anglo-African beverage giant SABMiller. Asahi will announce
its biggest acquisition soon, Nikkei newspaper reported yesterday.

Japanese firms have sought to expand in foreign markets as domestic sales suffer
from slow consumption by the country's shrinking and ageing population.

Asahi already has a foothold in the Australian soft drinks market through its
Schweppes brand and last month agreed to buy P&N Beverages Australia.

Related Coverage
SABMiller waits on Foster's The Australian, 6 days ago
Greiner top Rothschild adviser The Australian, 7 days ago
Business as usual at Renmark plant Adelaide Now, 6 Jul 2011
Multi-million-dollar All Black FoxSports, 6 Jul 2011
World tucks into Aussie agriculture Herald Sun, 5 Jul 2011

Aussie stock market lifts after dive

Stephen McMahon and AAP
UPDATE 12.39pm:
THE Australian share market recovered
some of its early losses today as
investors regained some nerve.

China still our rock, say economists

HA! I was only going to post the headline
and introduction, but it GOT DELETED HERE
so I had to get the whole story.

Australians safe in China's hands amid tumble
Neil Wilson
From: Herald Sun
August 08, 2011 12:00AM

Rio Tinto chief executive Tom Albanese.

CHINA'S voracious appetite for Australian resources
is likely to continue despite the latest bout of
global economic volatility,
economists and business leaders say.

Rio Tinto chief Tom Albanese said yesterday while the debt crisis
engulfing major western economies had implications for the entire world,
China's economy would continue to grow rapidly.

And RMIT economics professor On Kit Tam said China's foreign investment program
meant there would be little impact on the Asian giant's demand for resources.

"I don't think this decline in the US rating
will have any immediate effect via China on to Australia," Prof Tam said.

"China is shielded by its foreign investment and capital controls."

China's news agency Xinhua said yesterday unless the US cut its
"gigantic military expenditure and bloated welfare costs", another ratings
downgrade would be inevitable.

Related Coverage
Roubini bullish on China The Australian, 20 Jul 2011
China slowdown a global risk The Australian, 18 Jul 2011
Forecasts put us at China's mercy The Australian, 11 May 2011
Consequences of China's boom start to get complicated The Australian, 1 Apr 2011
Hale warns as China is set to slide Adelaide Now, 28 Mar 2011

But Prof Tam said China had little option but to retain its $1.2 trillion holding
of US bonds as debt-ridden Europe did not provide a reliable alternative investment.

China is now buying a quarter of Australia's exports, while the US takes just 4 per cent.

Prof Tam said despite China's efforts to rein in its high inflation rate,
which clocked in at 6.4 per cent annualised in June, the economy would
still growth about 9 per cent this year.

Mr Albanese said based on his travels through China and knowledge of the economy,
he was convinced growth would not slip below 8 per cent next year.

He told the ABC's Inside Business program yesterday
the engine room of the Chinese economy was changing.
"It's shifting a bit from commercial and higher-end residential (property
construction) to probably what would be a more middle-class residential,
which we would see as a healthy sign," Mr Albanese said.

"What I see (is) that growth continues."
(lost count, is this the 5th or 6th time I've had to re-format this post?
Talk about petty, childish twerps, who think wasting someone's time,
somehow doesn't show them to be the born losers they are )
No, this is NOT off topic. It is The Topic, that The CONspiracy Industry
has banned me all over the World Wide Web of DECEIVING Forums,
for caring to freely share. I WARNED OF THIS, YEARS AGO,
and SHOWED and EXPLAINED how I came to know; simply by,
TAKING GOD'S WORD at HIS WORD!

The Clash: 'STRAIGHT TO HELL'
If you can play on the fiddle
How's about a British jig and reel?
Speaking King's English in quotation
As railhead towns feel the steel mills rust water froze
In the generation
Clear as winter ice
This is your paradise

There ain't no need for ya
Go straight to hell boys

Y'wanna join in a chorus
Of the Amerasian blues?
When it's Christmas out in Ho Chi Minh City
Kiddie say papa papa papa papa-san take me home
See me got photo photo
Photograph of you
Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Of you and Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Lemme tell ya 'bout your blood bamboo kid.
It ain't Coca-Cola it's rice.

Straight to hell
Oh Papa-san
Please take me home
Oh Papa-san
Everybody they wanna go home
So Mamma-san says

You wanna play mind-crazed banjo
On the druggy-drag ragtime U.S.A.?
In Parkland International
Hah! Junkiedom U.S.A.
Where procaine proves the purest rock man groove
and rat poison
The volatile Molatov says-

PSSST...
HEY CHICO WE GOT A MESSAGE FOR YA...
VAMOS VAMOS MUCHACHO
FROM ALPHABET CITY ALL THE WAY A TO Z, DEAD, HEAD

Go straight to hell

Can you really cough it up loud and strong
The immigrants
They wanna sing all night long
It could be anywhere
Most likely could be any frontier
Any hemisphere
No man's land and there ain't no asylum here
King Solomon he never lived round here

Go straight to hell boys

Oh and yes,
God also told us He would give us watchmen,
to witness and warn, those with hearing ears

...HYPOCRITE ALERT!...
Billy Ruben wrote:Did you have to spam
True Lilly,can't you just talk,what would happen if we were lovers,are
you going to spam text dirty talk to me while we f*ck...can't you just say,"F*ck me in the shitter you goy bastard"...

Billy Ruben wrote:LOLZ

...Now WHEN will 'you' 'Billy' et al,
ANSWER ME; WHY NONE OF 'you'
PRETENDING to be on opposing sides,
EVER ATTACK 'each other', as 'you' ALL DO me,
THE ONLY, PROVEN, REAL LIVE,
NON-SECRET AGENDA PUSHER on
CONspiracy Forums of
The World Wide WEB of DECEPTION?
true lilly wrote:I see you can't stop talking about yourself...
Parasites POISON, WEAKEN and KILL THOSE THEY 'live' OFF...
e.g. 'your' Team 'mates' here:
rodin wrote:
el kabong wrote:
rodin wrote:Well that's a
relief, DIF is back up. I feared the worst since the FORUM direct button
on the main page redirected to it. I have books worth of research on
that site...

oops spoke too soon.
not to worry rodent, DIFtardia is a haven for NAZIs such as yourself. It was a mere Technical glitch and we have it sorted.
NAZI is product placement
gotta keep pushing that tired old bit of string...
meanwhile in the free speech zone
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=179187

"... in the free speech zone"
...ahh, another time, ya gotta laugh...
...and this, is funny...
"It was a mere Technical glitch and we have it sorted."

Not, 'maintenance' this time, an actual 'glitch', and 'sorted'...
...now why is it I hear, "POLITICS 101"...

Well at least 'el kabong'=the obsessive attacker of,
"The, Icke=tintin, 'Thorn'" , with
"YOU MUST ONLY BELIEVE THE TORAH!", BS,

admits a little of why he must do the,
"free speech zone" version of,
NAZI/tintin's silencing of 'The Thorn', here,
which along with, chatting so politely, with
'blame everything on the jews', 'rodin'
and NOT SPAMMING 'HIS' thread with pages of ,
"YOU MUST ONLY BELIEVE THE TORAH!", BS,
clearly makes a Key Point of the case I present, for me.

BTW, at least I gave folk clear warning, years ago
of the very shit happening in England, now,
such as explaining why people were being encouraged
to kill themselves trying to squeeze into already
way over populated northern cities like London...
while 'you mob' screamed, "DON'T LISTEN TO HER!"

Gee, I wonder how many English Londoners
HATE YOU MOB now, that they realize I gave them
enough warning time to legally migrate to O'Zion,
while the "Ciggy's, Wonder Woman's, ownoiz's etc."
of WEB/NET CON Forum land, cruelly 'advised' folk
to move to every dangerous, bankrupt, unstable,
hot spot in the world, except O'Zion...While working
FOR The Nazi/Dutch/'KING of The NORTH' who still
want to TAKE IT ALL FROM US, FOR THEMSELVES.

Oh sure, we will have our needed, bothersome corrections, to,
but we are also doing good things, like setting up a Universal
Disability Insurance Scheme (the 'SNOWY RIVER SCHEME' of
PUBLIC HEALTH, Bigger than the NBN), an awful lot like what
I hammered for years ago, when working in that field.

Remember, it's all the twittering (ANTI)'social' NET 'workers'
who have been suckered into MURDERING INNOCENT DEFENDERS
of THEIR INNOCENT NEIGHBOURS in these (INSANE ICKEST
RELIGION PUSHERS of), England's 'Riots'(=UN'civil' WARS).

And it is the INSANE ICKEST RELIGION PUSHERS who have made me,
'THEIR' MOST BANNED FROM FREELY SPEAKING, LITERALLY BASHED
and CAR BOMBED, ENEMY...
...who 'somehow'=BY THE GRACE of GOD, is still kicking.

And no 'Billy', remember, I don't 'make connections', but know,
what I know, through my faith in The Creator and His Promise
of Revealing to His faithful, what they need to know, when they
need to know it. Which is why 'you mob' must invent so many
slanderous tales about who I am, lest others Hear and Receive
The Message of God's Saving Grace, that I am simply a real,
live human individual, example of being blessed by, through
not denying, and publicly sharing, That, Very Best News, Ever.

The Truth, does indeed, set you free,
and The Truth Is With The One Who Can't Lie,
The Creator of Life,
Who Described The Whole World, All The Earth
and All Peoples, From The Beginning.

...and as GOD is the only truly effective Ridder of Parasites,
I trust Him to His work.

true lilly Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:59 am

For starters, the ONE thing 'they' change
is the first word,
in 'their' SATANIC PREACHING,
from, Think! to Think!,
because THINKING IS THE LAST THING
'they' "REQUIRE" FROM YOU!

I've left that as 'ninny' posted but have highlighted
the lies and deceptions designed to
twist YOUR THINKING
INTO THEIR SATANIC DOCTRINES:

ninny wrote: 11-08-2011, 06:32 AM #30101

ninny

8811

Charles Manson telephoning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3dfzTcfEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMAMRFE6ajo

notice he speaks of "The mark of the Beast"

Quote:

Charles Manson replies to concerns about a “New World Order” (Letter - July, 2011)

Think! If a body (person) lies and was raised and taught to lie, and
lies to self and lives with others who can't be truthful, how can they
even know what knowing is or is not? How can they even understand the
words and/or thoughts made up by the words? They are play-acting movies
and TV game shows.(HOW? Through TRUSTING GOD'S WORD,
as HE HAS PROVEN that HE CAN'T LIE!)

You use the words "World Order", and you have thoughts in your head that
came from someone else, that you don't even know what is or is not.
You can't even use your own brain because others ‘been doing your
thinking, and you haven't even been born in Truth. (I HAVE, why I DO KNOW THE NEXT BIT IS ALSO A BALD FACED LIE!)You were born 1000
and million-million light years old, but are trapped in the body others
needed you to be, play, and carry the cross for – you don't even know
what stupid is. ('ninny', TEAM TINTIN, ICKEST'S OBVIOUSLY DON'T!) And it would take 10 lifetimes running backwards
through school to blink one eye.(MORE senseless dribble to KEEP YOU OFF BALANCE!)
(and here, 'pure' TINTIN/ICKE=SATANIC RELIGIOUS PREACHING...)
There is only one. One world is like – all water is one water. Real
order is one. One is all, all and one is zero, nothing, and everything.
World is already in its order.(TRYING to SPIN THAT TO ENGLAND, NOW? HOW BLOODY STUPID!) What you're talking and thinking is
brainwash – ‘use your own head’ would mean being reborn ('he/they' MEANS YOU MUST DIE First!)and not picking
the same old thoughts back up.

Order is true in itself as it is. First is air. Air- without air
there is no life on earth as I know and live it. (a DEAD Give Away, AND WHAT I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR POSTING THE TRUTH OF; air=oxygen=rust=DEATH=PRINCE of The AIR=DEATH,
BUT 'they' IGNORE those millions of years ago when LIFE EXISTED ON
EARTH, BEFORE OXYGEN FORMED and DEATH had NOT YET ENTERED THIS AGE of
THIS SYSTEM of Things!)To destroy or distort
air is out of order ('they' MEAN SATAN IS SO WEAK HE NEEDS US TO DIE TRYING TO PROTECT HIM)– governments, money churches, none of that means
anything. The people of the Earth world are so warped, distorted,
twisted, and filled with lies and fear, confusion, doubt, and cover-ups,
greed, so on and on - that they can't see it if you show them.(NOT ALL,
WE THANK GOD! But THAT IS WHAT 'they' BELIEVE OF YOU!)

For over 100 years, people have been trying to show the commands that
Air Is First, and not to use gas in the World Wars I and II. But
people say; "How long before all the air on earth is gone, over, and
all life is over?"… “100 years”… and the same with the order of where
air comes from; trees, green things, water and its order.(still BEGGING WE DIE TO KEEP THE PRINCE of DEATH 'alive')

Money and fear, sex and other levels of the world orders of death speak
louder.(LIE! But 'they' DO CONTROL WEB/NET Forums and SILENCE those who THREATEN 'their' WEAK lord death) And real and truth is covered-up, lost from the real by the
cover-ups of the unreal, and who gives a fucks rule. And the sellouts
win again and time goes on and on, dragging the real order up and down,
under and over, around in circles.
(SHIT! TINTIN'S VERY OWN, SO OFTEN REPEATED Excuse for why he doesn't have the balls to WALK AWAY from HIS DEMONIC LUSTS, and
PREACHES OUT OF BITTERNESS because he doesn't have the balls to FACE HIS MAKER ALONE, which HE WILL!)
A lot of people say they would die before they would do this or that,(more
than 'say' I've proven it time and time again, and doesn't that just
show what WEAK, BITTER FOOLS 'they' ARE, that 'they' have only managed
to NEARLY KILL ME, so far...)
and they got ways they say they believe and want change. Then, when no
one's looking, they're sucking on it or doing and going where they told
and made someone do their will – that's not order, that's disorder = out
of order. And that kind of thought and behavior covers up the real
order of (more confusing, HYPNOTIC dribble to drive home, FIX 'their' Coded Order...) the ‘do or die’ Order. (ORDERING SENSELESS SLAUGHTERS)

You're in a room, a car is running, and oil is destroying your air.
Order says, "Turn the car off or give up the air". That's got nothing
to do with 'will you suck or not suck?' There are people who would go
to war and destroy their own world, children, and self before they would
or could be truthful with what's inside their own minds' order.(THOSE
PEOPLE ARE TINTIN, ASSANGE, ICKE and ALL THOSE GURUS of The Father of
The Lie and Death, who ARE ALL TOO WEAK TO DEBATE ME, and little woman
of NO WORLDLY POWER or CONNECTIONS!)

I worked and got you… (established –ed.)(his
coded CREDIT TO HIS MASTERS that INVENTED his persona, gave him his
orders and CONTINUE TO PREACH THROUGH HIM VIA HIS 'Industry') and…and just like Boston Irish
people, you were lying so you could make movies and dump it back on
someone else.

I forgot the rest of this.(see above, forgot his orders) It's without real reasons because there is no one left over from the last cross boss.

Easy

Charles Manson

source
Last edited by ninny; 11-08-2011 at 06:34 AM.

...now lets look at
"that" source...nothing much at all,
then click on Home...
THE "home" 'they' WANT YOU DEVOTED TO!
...and I CAN'T SHOW YOU, BECAUSE
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S
are VERY HEAVILY PROTECTED...in This,
CRUMBLING DYING Worldly System, because
IT=HE=MANSON='they'=MY GOD'S ENEMY'S,
are also CRUMBLING and DYING and CAN'T,
stand open and free to even the simplest scrutiny!

Billy Ruben Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:19 am

true lilly wrote:Gee, I wonder why
"tintin's" thread HAS LOST SO MANY READERS...
...and isn't this "supposed" to be,
"The ANTI-DAVID ICKE SITE"...

EVEN IF THAT WAS TRUE,WHICH IT ISN'T,IT'S YOU WHO LOST THE READERS,THAT'S WHY YOU BITCHED SO LONG ABOUT GETTING BACK ON DIF (GOOD ON YOU CORI thumbs up

),AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUE REASON YOU SPREAD LIES AND RUMOURS,YOU ONLY FOOL YOURSELF INTO BELIEVING OTHERS WOULD FOLLOW YOUR LEAD,...THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO RING YOU,SO THEY SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT AND NUTJOB YOU REALLY ARE...RUMOURS FLY FAST,BUT MINE ARE THE TRUTH...AND YOU LOSE,CAUSE OF ME...UP YOURS S.RYAN...

SUZY'S PHONE NUMBER: 0424705576 cthulhu

Billy Ruben wrote:IF THERE IS ONE THING I ACHIEVED WITH THIS BITCH THIS WEEK,IS THE SUPPOSEDLY UNBENDING SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY SLAG OF BALLARAT,LIED,WORMED AND TWISTED HER WAY OUT OF THE SLANDER SHE SAID ABOUT OZPIXIE...WE ALL SEEN IT FOR OURSELVES,NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLUFF HER WAY OUT,I NEVER KNEW HER NAME (OZPIXIE)STILL DON'T,SHE RECKONED SHE DID,UNTIL PROVEN WRONG BY "I AM"...NOW SHE'S SHIT SCARED OF YOU PEOPLE SEEING HER FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS...AND THE REASON SHE REALLY SPREADS RUMOURS AND LIES,SHE'S A PATHETIC IMP OF A WOMAN,THAT HAS NOBODY IN LIFE,THAT REALLY COULD LOVE THAT THING...

true lilly Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:19 pm

[quote="true lilly"]

true lilly wrote:
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:

Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,

REVELATIONS 22:2
In ¹⁷²² the midst ³³¹⁹ of the street ⁴¹¹³ of it ⁸⁴⁶, and ²⁵³² on either ²⁵³² side ¹⁷⁸² ¹⁷⁸² of the river ⁴²¹⁵, [was there] the tree ³⁵⁸⁶ of life ²²²², which bare ⁴¹⁶⁰ twelve ¹⁴²⁷ [manner of] fruits ²⁵⁹⁰, [and] yielded ⁵⁹¹ her ⁸⁴⁶ fruit ²⁵⁹⁰ every ²⁵⁹⁶ ¹⁵³⁸ ¹⁵²⁰ month ³³⁷⁶: and ²⁵³² the leaves ⁵⁴⁴⁴ of the tree ³⁵⁸⁶ [were] for ¹⁵¹⁹ the healing ²³²² of the nations ¹⁴⁸⁴.

ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

PSALMS 119: 85 to 128[/size]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85

PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.

...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,
may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...

NEHEMIAH 1, 2 & 3
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV

ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 4: 18, 19

But the path ⁷³⁴ of the just ⁶⁶⁶²
[is] as the shining ⁵⁰⁵¹ light ²¹⁶,
that shineth ²¹⁵ more ¹⁹⁸⁰ and
more unto the perfect ³⁵⁵⁹ day ³¹¹⁷.
The way ¹⁸⁷⁰ of the wicked ⁷⁵⁶³
[is] as darkness ⁶⁵³:
they know ³⁰⁴⁵ not
at what they stumble ³⁷⁸² .
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=18&t=KJV#top

PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...

Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...

Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina

...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558

true lilly wrote:
wrote:ok then .. time-clonings
=TIME of yours definings of it
the EL is GOD for it including others els
i am reapeted in the mirror of events and recorded stringings
as the unknown repeates in it
you are/was a mormon - right?

No, not, never was Mormon, but a Target of theirs to.

And, 1, and 24 other thrones,
but still THE ONE, ORIGINATOR.

And, ALL, EVERY ONE of US
and THE CREATOR
and The Next 24 Enthroned,
ARE UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS.

NEVER TO BE REPEATED.

SO PRECIOUS,
and a SAD WASTE
to CHOSE EXTINCTION.

But back to Mormons:
The Cover for The World
RECOGNIZING AUSTRALIA
AS THE LAND GOD DESCRIBED...
..."heard it before from that
'dumb dumb dumb' religion.",
but it's nothing like it,
as AUSTRALIA ALWAYS WAS, and
CLEARLY, FOR HUNDREDS of YEARS, and
EVEN MORE CLEARLY NOW,
DESCRIBED in HOLY SCRIPTURE.

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
The Illuminati Is Bullshit To Suck People Into A Mindset...!!!

And that mind SET is AWAY
from what the evil MOST FEAR...
...that people will SEE, The Actual,
TRUTH of GOD'S WORD, and so,
KNOW HE EXISTS and SERVE HIM
RATHER THAN the prince of DEATH!

As you can see, I've always made it clear
that I am not afraid of 'going toe to toe',
in a serious, Contest of Ideas.

And clearly not a 'love fest' of 'smooth words',
but just as clearly, not a battle of
Personal Threats and Counter Threats.

Yet, that is what 'they' present
(threats against my person), as 'their'
'counter arguments' to what 'they' have
NO COUNTER ARGUMENT TO OFFER,
and THEN, HAVE THE GAUL TO COMPLAIN
that 'they', "'don't like' 'the way' 'I' 'speak'"!?

Yes, that is another 'reason' 'Billy Ruben' gives
for his hate of me and THREATS TO KILL me.

So, some quotes,
to help stress the WARNING
to all who may be tempted to join the likes of,
Billy Ruben, tintin, cori, I_AM, merlincove,
el kabong, and the rest of the on line, and
Local, Thugs, in these clearly, serious, criminal acts

Well, here it is folks,
The GOOD NEWS Behind,
"The NEWS Behind The NEWS".

And first up:
PLEASE, add, counter, challenge away,
but NOT with
Worldly/CATHOLIC FUNDED/COMMISSIONED
Lies, Myths and Fantasy, presented as if 'fact'...
unless you want a verbal slashing Take Heed... - Page 6 Tongue

!

The WHOLE Conspiracy INDUSTRY
is FULL of that INSANITY.
Please LET THIS THREAD BE WHAT IT IS
or ADMIT YOU WORK
to "PROTECT" TPTB
from The ONLY Truth "They" FEAR.

The intent of this thread is:
To SHOW how OLD and TIGHT
the HOODWINKS placed on us by
those DEATH WORSHIPPING LIE LOVERS
actually are, AND HOW to REMOVE them,
FOR FREE!

Yep, no middle man or 'guru' to PAY to follow
(to your Eternal DEATH), no man or woman
to grovel and suck down to, just tools and skills
for recognising and countering THE KILLER LIE.

So I'll begin with my introduction posts
to 'that thread'
that TWISTED FREEING TRUTH
into MOCKING DEATH THREATS...
so folk can also SEE
the DIFFERENT SPIRITS SOURCE
behind different posters...
to HEAR the voice of HARD LOVE
and DOING JUSTICE,
and recognise
the SMOOTH WORDS of
THE FATHER of The LIE.

So, from 16-10-2007....
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338

true lilly wrote:It's a SERIOUS MATTER:
BILLY RUBEN'S Flood of TEXT THREATS

Yesterday, we had a guest over,
while 'Billy Ruben' aka 'Jason/Jase',
was texting me yet more threats.

Now, only going by those text
from last night and yesterday,
that guest had serious concerns
over what they
('Billy Ruben's' threatening texts),
contained.

But here's the thing;
that guest was The Same Person
who was here The First Time
'Billy Ruben' phoned and spoke to me.

'That' First Time, that 'Billy Ruben'
then proceeded to spam threads
with a completely slanderous version
of what was and wasn't said by whom,
and what sort of electronics my house contains.

So again, I asked 'Billy Ruben' to Call
and Speak To THAT PERSON while he was here,
(and 'Billy Ruben' was spending all his time
texting threats to my phone anyway),
so that he (the guest who was also here and
witnessed that first call from 'Billy Ruben),
could confirm (and so, easy 'Billy Ruben's mind),
that there was only the TV on in the background,
and that I only have one, very old, weak and
slow computer.

'Billy Ruben', again, refused to speak to him.

But back to the nature of those threats.

They are very personal, very sick,
dangerously obsessive,
INDEPENDENTLY WITNESSED to
NOT BE ENCOURAGED,
and clearly, though showing an unstable mind,
knowingly, willingly, criminal.

Also, I will stress that what indicates that
'Billy Ruben's' threats ARE LEGITIMATELY to be,
considered SERIOUS THREATS, are his bold,
statements of and behaviour that supports,
his lack of fear of detection.

That is a classic indication of someone
committed to carrying out their threats,
even at the risk of being caught.

Rather TELLING to, that
DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUM MODERATORS
DON'T BAN the likes of CORI and TINTIN
(who also publicly posted similar threats),
but rather, THOSE OF US WHO NOTIFY
MODERATORS AND ADMINISTRATION
of THAT CLEARLY, SERIOUS and CRIMINAL
behaviour.

true lilly wrote:Just a few example of how important it is to not allow this post to show in an impactful, legible format...
MASS MANIPULATOR
David Icke INDUSTRIES

Co they tell ya
what they do to ya
it's O.K.
to DO IT!

Co they tell ya
what they do to ya
it's O.K.
to DO IT!

Cos they tell ya
what they do to ya
it's O.K.
to DO IT!
...and that doesn't include
how many times
each attempt was edited
by me and 'them',
me and 'them',
as I was writing and editing

Billy Ruben Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:52 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:YES YOU DID MAGGOT ACCUSE OXPIXIE,WHY WOULD I DO IT,NOT MY STYLE OF LOWY LIKE YOU SHITBAG WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEAR,YOU ONLY DENY IT CAUSE,YOU ARE TRYING TO PRESS CHARGES...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...AND SOON AS I TELL BALLARAT POLICE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT YOUR EX-COPPER HUSBAND,YOU WON'T BE LOOKED AFTER,YOU'LL GET THE PSYCHE WARD,COURTEOUSY OF ME...

LILLYS' NEW PLOY TODAY,IS SPAM AS MANY LIES IN ONE POST,THINKING I'LL EXHAUST MYSELF COUNTERING THEM,SORRY,I ALREADY PUT OUT THE TRUTHFUL EVENTS,SHE'S A LITTLE TO SLOW THIS TIME AROUND AND HOPES TO BURY IT,UNDER TONNES OF SHIT,TO HISE HER LYING,CALLOUS,COLD-HEARTED SIDE...I AM NOT,SCUM LIKE HER,DESERVE MY WRATH AND EVERYONE ELSES WHO'VE BEEN SO INSULTED BY THIS MINDLESS BINT OVER THE YEARS,REGARDS.

Billy Ruben wrote:IF THERE IS ONE THING I ACHIEVED WITH THIS BITCH THIS WEEK,IS THE SUPPOSEDLY UNBENDING SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY SLAG OF BALLARAT,LIED,WORMED AND TWISTED HER WAY OUT OF THE SLANDER SHE SAID ABOUT OZPIXIE...WE ALL SEEN IT FOR OURSELVES,NOW SHE'S TRYING TO BLUFF HER WAY OUT,I NEVER KNEW HER NAME (OZPIXIE)STILL DON'T,SHE RECKONED SHE DID,UNTIL PROVEN WRONG BY "I AM"...NOW SHE'S SHIT SCARED OF YOU PEOPLE SEEING HER FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS...AND THE REASON SHE REALLY SPREADS RUMOURS AND LIES,SHE'S A PATHETIC IMP OF A WOMAN,THAT HAS NOBODY IN LIFE,THAT REALLY COULD LOVE THAT THING...

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Gee, I wonder why
"tintin's" thread HAS LOST SO MANY READERS...
...and isn't this "supposed" to be,
"The ANTI-DAVID ICKE SITE"...

EVEN IF THAT WAS TRUE,WHICH IT ISN'T,IT'S YOU WHO LOST THE READERS,THAT'S WHY YOU BITCHED SO LONG ABOUT GETTING BACK ON DIF (GOOD ON YOU CORI ),AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUE REASON YOU SPREAD LIES AND RUMOURS,YOU ONLY FOOL YOURSELF INTO BELIEVING OTHERS WOULD FOLLOW YOUR LEAD,...THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO RING YOU,SO THEY SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT AND NUTJOB YOU REALLY ARE...RUMOURS FLY FAST,BUT MINE ARE THE TRUTH...AND YOU LOSE,CAUSE OF ME...UP YOURS S.RYAN...

SUZY'S PHONE NUMBER: 0424705576

EVERYTHING IN THE ABOVE POST IS A PROVEN LIE,KEEP CLUTCHING TO THE HOPE SOME FUCKTARD AS STUPID AS YOU,BELIEVES IT...

thumbs down

true lilly wrote:Good readers, as I see Billy Ruben is polluting my threads with the equivalent of
what one would find in the chamber pot of a man dying of vile diseases (and so,
not something one would want to pick through the details of),

DEAR READERS,YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY I HATE THIS SLAG MORE THAN ANYONE ON THE NET,SHE''LL USE ANY KNOWLEDGE IN HER POWER,IF SHE THINKS IT'S A WEAKNESS OR A GOOD POINT OF ATTACK,THAT'S WHY,I'M SHAMELESS AND BLAMELESS AND DO THE SAME BACK,USING HER FAMILY THAT TURNED ON HER,FOR THE SAME BRAND OF FUCKTARD NUTTINESS.WHAT I DID CONFIRM AT HPANWO,WAS MY LYMPHOCYTES ARE OUT,WHICH IS QUITE SPEEDY IN DEVELOPEMENT,CONSIDERING I HAD A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH IN JANUARY,I HAD THE THIRD BLOOD TEST TODAY,SO HOPING THE RESULTS GO BACK TO NORMAL BY NEXT WEEK.IT'S A RECIPE FOR LEUKEMIA,SHE KNEW THIS,CAUSE SHE LIKES THE RUMOUR MILL,AND MR SOD TIPPED HER OFF,FROM MY STINT AS DAVID VINCENT...AS LONG AS YOU PEOPLE KNOW,REMEMBER THE PATTERNS WITH THE SATANIST DAUGHTER...SEE,I DON'T MIND THEM BOTH DOING THAT,I'LL LET IT PLAY EENIE MEENIE MINIE MOE...AND SEE WHICH ONE DESERVES THEIR COME UPPANCE THE MOST...SUCK MY COCK...

Take Heed... - Page 6 Staunt

[quote="true lilly"][color=darkblue]Good readers, as I see Billy Ruben is polluting my threads with the equivalent of
what one would find in the chamber pot of a man dying of vile diseases (and so,
not something one would want to pick through the details of), I'll simply post my reply
to his, not at all private, message to me on the same subjects, which though I didn't
bother answering point for point, will give you a sound and clear overview of 'his' problem with my character.

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.
So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper."[color=black], job....'smart'er...
smart, would be to stop trusting idiots to supply 'intelligence',
and to stop expecting that insanity to not backfire.

But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.

So, 'billy' Jason,
you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.

It's because you have become a liability TO THEM.
In fact, all you bitterly chattering monkey's have.

btw... WHAT is IT 'you' claim I'm "pushing"?

I knew you'd post when you thought the coast was clear,or,you got told I logged off,ROFLMAO ,see,I use head,you and your ilk,cheat.
True Lilly admits,tried to worm out..

But if 'YOU' want to KEEP OUTING OZPIXIE, fine.
I'll tell 'you' if it's the same Christine.

t0o late,you already claimed it is her...and that you warned others way back at ATS,which is a heap of a shit forum,the same with Godlike,them and you,would'nt wipe my arse with...

Now,even better,you're not even sure it's the same Ozpixie...not only that,you just displayed your willing to spread rumours with no basis of truth,I'm going to spam every fuckin thread with this now...thankyou,like Manna from heaven in the quest,to slay the dragon known as True Lilly...you got nothing mate...you just lost all your so-called credibilty by yourself,in two short lines...I love you again...Hahahahahahaha

...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.

How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... ...
... or you could simply 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...

Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.

DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...

Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?

From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben

your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.

Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...

the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...

True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...

THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...

Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE... thumbs up

I FIND THE UNHIVED MIND INTERESTING,THANKS TO SOD LEAVING THAT LINK,IT SHOWS A PSYCHOLOGICAL TIME-LINE FOR THIS FRUITBAT,SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY,AND OF COURSE,THE LACK OF INTEREST IN HER POST,ZERO REPLIES AND TWO OR THREE DOZEN READS OVER 5 YEARS,SO YEAH,VERY TELLING,THAT'S WHY SHE BAITS AND LIES EVERYBODY,CAUSE,AS IN HER REAL LIFE,EVERYONE INCLUDING HER FAMILY ABANDONED HER,CAUSE THEY COULD'NT TAKE THE HURT AND PAIN SHE CAUSED THEM,OVER THIS LOVE FOR DEMONS,THAT SHE THINKS IS GOD.SUZY,YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOVING,SPIRITUAL PSYCHIC SIDE,TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER REALMS,YOU'RE A BOTTOM FEEDER...YOU'RE TALKING SHIT,SCHIZO OR POSSESSED...

BUT ANYWAY,SOD GIVES HER CREDIT AS UNBENDING,I SAY,STUPID AND STUBBORN,WHICH COST HER THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE,HER LOVING FAMILY,THAT SHE LOST,THANK GOD THE HUSBAND WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE KIDS TOGETHER...THAT IS ALL FOR NOW...
JEALOUSY OF TINTIN'S SUCCESS AND INTEGRITY,NOW HE HAS REAL FRIENDS AND FOLLOWERS AND A NICE GERMAN GIRL CALLED CORI BY HIS SIDE,HE'S A SUCCESS AS HE WORKED HARD FOR HIS ORIGINAL POINT OF VIEW...I COMMEND HIM AND RECOMMEND YOU READING HIS WORKS,HE MUST BE GOOD,TO BE HARRASSED BY THIS STUPID WOMAN WHO LOST HER OWN KIDS IN THIS BITTER JEALOUS ONE WOMAN WAR

Take Heed... - Page 6 Morelillybull

Billy Ruben wrote:Ya know True Lilly,after what you said today about this being my version of Tintin's thread,I realised,not just what you did to your own family,but you are that stupid,to believe this was some genuine attempt at re-interpretting the news...it's not,it's a pisstake out of you,for ripping off what Craig Oxley's Forum was in honour of,the True Fallen,the True Speakers of conspiracy,and you stole that credence,and invented a story about car-bombings and being beaten up,so you could feel like one of them and con yourself into believing you're legit.See,you're a liar,but not a good one.

I know you hold information on that PC more than 5 years old,somewhere,you would have evidence and would've used it if real...you have'nt and remain,one of the all-time frauds in Conspiracy Land and not to be trusted.

true lilly Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:07 pm

So, what happened to "all threads ending at 68 pages"?
Oh, 'they' have to have the last page full of 'their' BS.
Rioters who shot at police
will be treated as attempted murderers
Take Heed... - Page 6 981322-rioters-rotate

Take Heed... - Page 6 981322-rioters-rotate

August 21, 2011
10:13AM
Alarming new footage shows rioters in England
shooting at police in a helicopter and on the ground.
Birmingham police say the perpetrators
will be treated as attempted murderers.
Read More

true lilly wrote:Re: TERRORIST and other CODED posts on DAVID ICKE FORUM
true lilly on Thu Jul 28, 2011
cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826

crosshairs
...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked
from David Icke's Official Forum.

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Remember, in order to 'read' Team Tintin's Planned Plots,
you also need to 'read' THE BIG NEWS that Team Tintin
IGNORES and/or otherwise TWISTS to 'make' his 'connections'...

Such as tintin TRYING TO MAKE IT 'READ'
that "THORN from NORWAY" "won"
THE TOUR de FRANCE,
and IGNORING that AUSTRALIAN CADEL EVENS
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Oh yeah, and while tintin has been 'predicting',
a GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRASH for OVER 6 Years,
and Ciggy & Co. have been TELLING THE WORLD
to AVOID ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN, what I find
FORETOLD IN GOD'S WORD, KEEPS HAPPENING...

Soaring dollar hits record high

Stephen McMahon
THE Australian dollar
has burst through the US110c threshold
amid mounting fears
the next move for interest rates
will be up.

Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...

...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...

tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)

And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.

Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.
Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.

Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.

It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam
have their appartment in Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.

The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.
Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.

Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.

He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in Port Arthur.
20 MAY. 13 days after the Massacre.
the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.

So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),
From The Beginning.

And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE" in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS, to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube
Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward
From:News Limited newspapersJuly 28, 2011
12:00AM
17 comments
Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun

Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied
HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".
The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.
It contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies" surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .
"Unfortunately this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.

Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for many years with many
of the survivors and victims' families, shared the disbelief and horror
about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."

See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM
Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander and Princess Maxima.

Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.

"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.

"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
© 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed "EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.
cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826

crosshairs
...and this was AFTER my
OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my
AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from
David Icke's Official Forum.

Billy Ruben Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:52 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .

Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:
Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.

lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.

Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... cthulhu

[/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.

true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:
Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...

thumbs down

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .

Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' ),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???

And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...

JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.

Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...

Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE...

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htm

Take Heed... - Page 6 Tomorrowsworktodo

think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic rolf

Billy Ruben Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:29 am

JUST RANG THE LYING COW,SHE AVOIDED ALL THE QUESTIONS HAD NOTHING TO SAY AND HER SPEECH WAS SO SLOWED AND SLURRED,SHE WAS DOSED UP ON SOMETHING,PITY,IT DOES'NT REMOVE HER DELUSIONS ABOUT EVERYONE SHE INTERACTS WITH.I WROTE HER OFF,NO SWEARING OR THREATS AND LAUGHED IN HER FACE FOR DESTROYING HER CREDIBILTY (VERY LITTLE OF) AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DENIES AND SPAMS AWAY,EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SHE'LL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT."sHE SAYS,I GOT TO GO NOW,THANKYOU",IN THAT HIDEOUS PIXIE SHIT TONE VOICE OF HERS,UGLY OUTSIDE AND UGLY TO THE BONE THAT ONE IS...THIS IS VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP WAY OVER THE LINE,FOR TOO LONG,THIS HAS BEEN COMING...SHE'S SO UGLY,YOU GOT NO IDEA,THE VULGARNESS OF ITS VOICE,HIDEOUS.HERE'S HER PHONE NUMBER:0424705576...SORRY,I CHOSE BROWN,BROWN FOR POOP THAT DRIVELS OUT HER MOUTH...

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true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:28 am

And there is MUCH more in current and recent news that goes with all this...

Public release date:
29-Aug-2009

Contact: Debbie Morton
dmorton@mercyhurst.edu
814-824-2552
Mercyhurst College

Underwater expedition delivers key findings
in search for evidence of early Americans

Mercyhurst College archaeologists
trace ancient river systems,
identify chert at 3 submerged sites

In one of the more dramatic moments of an underwater archaeological
survey co-led by Mercyhurst College archaeologist James Adovasio along
Florida's Gulf Coast this summer, Andy Hemmings stood on an inundated river's edge where man hasn't set foot in more than 13,000 years.

Donning full scuba gear, Hemmings stood in 130 feet of water on a
peninsula at the intersection of two ancient rivers nearly 100 miles
offshore from Tampa. The last time humans could have stood in that spot,
mammoth and mastodon roamed the terrain.

"The successful tracking of the St. Marks-Aucilla River and the Suwannee
River, between 50 and 150 kilometers respectively, represents what we
believe to be the most extensive delineation of submerged prehistoric
river systems ever done anywhere in the world," Adovasio said.

Another pivotal find is the identification of chert at three dive sites
along the river systems; chert is a superior quality fine-grained stone
used by prehistoric peoples to make tools.

"There is no doubt," Adovasio said, "that we have found the haystacks and are one step closer to uncovering the archaeological needles;" in effect, narrowing the search for evidence of early Americans in the now submerged Inner Continental Shelf in the Gulf of Mexico off the Florida coast.

Hemmings, one of the leading Paleoindian underwater archaeologists in
North America, agreed. "My feeling is, given a little time to probe the
sediments with a dredge, we will quickly find human artifacts."

The signature expedition of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) Office of Ocean Exploration and Research began in
the summer of 2008 when a distinguished group of scientists led by
Mercyhurst's Adovasio and Hemmings identified and mapped buried river
channels that could potentially help document the late Pleistocene
landscape. This year's mission, undertaken July 23 to Aug. 5, further
traced the river systems along whose beaches prehistoric people may have
populated and identified raw materials that they may have used in tool
making.

The mission also has advanced underwater understanding and research methodology exponentially, Adovasio said.

"We have developed protocols for exploring deep water, which is both
time and labor intensive, as well as expensive, unlike anything done
before," he said, noting that the NOAA-funded expedition is unique in
part because of the depths at which scuba divers are exploring. For the
most part, other prehistoric expeditions have been confined to shallow
water, he said.

From the Weatherbird II, flagship of the Florida Institute of
Oceanography in St. Petersburg, researchers electronically mapped the
modern sea floor with a side scan sonar device and created images of the
layered sediments below the seafloor surface with a sub-bottom
profiler. Using GPS technology, the team selected dive locations based
on an understanding of what the surface should look like, and what was
hidden below that surface adjacent to the old river channels.

On the peninsula where the relict Suwannee River intersects another
ancient system, divers were able to collect a 1m sediment core but were
unable to complete a lengthier search for human artifacts because the
water neared 130 feet, the maximum depth level for this year's dive. The
team plans to return to this spot next year, increasing the divers'
depth level certification to 165 feet and using a dredge to lift the
silt away and see if there is an archaeological site at this confluence.

Additional work in 2010 will trace the Suwannee River channel back
toward its modern mouth and continue tracking it into the Gulf. At
select locations, divers will probe the sediments looking for artifacts
made by ancient peoples living along the river at places where the chert
was found this year.

In all, the team has identified 2,000 target locations. With direct
testing by divers having already uncovered three sites with useable tool
stone, Adovasio said the team is confident that it will find human
artifacts from the Pleistocene on this ancient landscape as their work
continues next year.

"Proof of past human habitation here would reinforce the disintegration
of the once prevalent hypothesis about who the first Americans were, how
they got here and when they arrived," said Adovasio, who rose to fame
30 years ago while excavating the Meadowcroft Rockshelter near
Pittsburgh, Pa. Radiocarbon dating at Meadowcroft revealed the presence
of human campsites as many as 16,000 years ago, which went a long way
toward dashing the Clovis-first paradigm, holding that the first humans
arrived in the Americas about 12,000 years ago, as revealed by a site
near Clovis, New Mexico.

###

Besides primary funding from NOAA, this summer's work was supported by
the Mercyhurst Archaeological Institute, the Gault School of
Archaeological Research, the Florida Bureau of Archaeological Research,
the Florida Institute of Oceanography, and the University of Illinois at
Chicago, among others. Students from Mercyhurst, Harvard, the
University of Michigan and Texas A & M were also part of the
research group.

palomino wrote:
Originally Posted by palomino

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225807108312

Aborigines are ill-served by cultural falsification and fraud

AS a nation we want more from just about everybody. We demand better
from our politicians, our corporate executives, our young sportsmen and
women.

Yet we do not expect more from indigenous Australians. Sadly, as a
nation, Australians have a predilection for indigenous confection. We
undermine our national character when we accept cultural fraud. The real indigenous culture is as old as the land, with its wonderful tales of how, at the start of time, this great country was transformed by our ancestral beings.

Then there is an insidious modern culture: a culture of fabrication that preys on unquestioning mainstream Australians.

It thrives because of mainstream Australia's inability to spot a
cultural fraud even when it is staring it in the face. It is often
shrouded in the mystical and unchallenged by the naive for fear of
giving offence. It is handsomely rewarded with grants by unwitting
government officials. This false culture is abetted by a broad willingness to be hoodwinked.

Many Australians are guilty of, to borrow a phrase, the soft bigotry of
low expectations. There are acts of parliament across the country that
divide indigenous communities and favour the noisy rent-seekers and
grant-takers.

In trying to manage cultural matters, bureaucrats often get it wrong.
Competing native title claims, cultural heritage disputes and fighting
among families and factions happen because of weak legislation or decent
legislation that is poorly administered.

In my community I have seen blatant cultural fraud and the fabrication of history
as a money-making strategy. It is allowed to happen because
non-indigenous people don't have the tools to make sound judgments about
competing claims. When it is too hard to get to the truth of the
matter, money is thrown at every version of a story.

In the main, indigenous affairs are administered in a completely
non-commercial manner. Therefore the usual market forces don't apply and
where there is a symptom or a bad news story, someone will be prepared
to throw money at it without having checked out the circumstances.
For a decade from the mid-1990s the Hindmarsh Island bridge controversy
in South Australia proved -- in the courts, parliament and even through a
royal commission -- that not every indigenous story should be taken at
face value. Sooner or later the Hindmarsh affair was inevitable.

Chances are the underlying themes of that affair are being played out
right now in any number of negotiations across the country. The stories
will be modified for the local people and the local circumstances. But
no matter where it is taking place, it will be high drama with practised
performers on both sides. It will be set to a backdrop of legislation
supposed to confer some sort of special protection or special
recognition on indigenous culture. But in the real world (the one
without lawyers), the fight isn't black v white; it is just black. It is
cousin against cousin and the ethical against the grant-takers.

Not even governance is safe. There is a separate corporations act for
indigenous Australia, as if an indigenous constituent's concerns were
somehow less important than those in a corporation watched over by the
Australian Securities and Investment Commission. It strikes me as rather
odd that we have a network of organisations managing billions of
dollars of taxpayer money being marketed as governance. It is hard to
decide if this is welfare by another name or conscience money.

Here I will declare an interest. I work for the Australian Employment
Covenant, striving to get 50,000 jobs for indigenous Australians. But
our team knows the difficulties we face in getting indigenous people
into work when the system allows them to choose welfare. Perhaps they
would take a greater interest in work if the money were turned off. It
has been suggested to me hunger would be a great motivator.

If indigenous people are to enjoy the respect of all Australians, then
we would do well to live by the same obligations and social contract as
the rest of the country.

I do not accept the argument that something in our culture means that we
do not have to work. Nor do I accept that society somehow owes
indigenous people a living.

That line of logic has resulted in too many toxic remote communities and
an urban over-representation of unemployed indigenous people, even when
they within reach of work.

It is time to do away with the separatist double standards.
Wesley Aird is a member of the Australian Employment Covenant Implementation Team

true lilly wrote:Funny to, the TIMING of this year old 'news'
making today's headlines...HACKERS...one of
the reasons I happily 'outed myself'...Not being
at all pc savy and knowing I could not secure
access to my home, let alone computer, and having
nothing of worldly value on my pc, it was best that
who and where I was and what I'm up to always
be openly known by more than a few...this way,
anything illegal 'put on' or 'coming through' my pc
could be proven not to be OF me...as a 'certain someone'
and his hired thugs, tried to do in the past ...

anyway, enough of my reasoning, on to what most
really care about...MONEY...

Russian hackers 'steal millions' from Citibank

* By staff writers
* From: news.com.au
* December 23, 2009 12:12PM

bizmoney citigroup

Citibank denies reports that hackers
stole "tens of millions" of dollars from it
/ Supplied
Source: AFP

* Report that hackers stole millions
* Citigroup denies money was lost
* Most bank heists are now virtual

GLOBAL finance giant Citigroup is denying reports
hackers stole "tens of millions" of dollars
from its banking arm Citibank midway through the year.

The Wall Street Journal yesterday reported the money was lost
to "malicious software created in Russia" and that the case was
being investigated by the FBI.

The Wall Street Journal reported a specialised piece of malware known as
"Black Energy" was behind the losses, having been modified to steal
banking authentication details.

"There's a newer, private version of Black Energy that
uses plugins to extend its capabilities beyond just DDoS (distributed
denial of service), security researcher Joe Stewart told www.pcworld.com.
Related Coverage
* Banks: Rate rise warning for 2010
* FBI probes cyber attack on Citigroup: report Australian IT, 9 hours ago
* FBI probes US terror suspects in Pakistan The Australian, 11 Dec 2009
* Leighton owner pulls IPO The Australian, 3 Dec 2009
* What GFC? Fat cat bonuses are here again NEWS.com.au, 14 Oct 2009
* Bankers set for record bonus season The Australian, 14 Oct 2009[/b]
http://www.news.com.au/business/russ...-1225813099266

The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI,
the National Security Agency,
the Department of Homeland Security
and Citigroup exchanged information
to counter the attack,
which could have begun as long as a year ago.

The hackers, named in The Guardian as
the "Russian Business Network",
first gained notoriety several years ago
after masterminding a string of hi-tech crimes
including identity theft, fraud, spam
and child pornography.

Citigroup, the world's largest financial services company,
rejected any suggestion the FBI was investigating an incident
and denied that a raid of such proportions had taken place.

"Any allegation that the FBI is working on a case at Citigroup
involving a breach of Citi systems resulting in
tens of millions of dollars of losses is false," it said.

"There has been no breach and there have been no associated losses."

However, Dow Jones & Co spokesman Robert Christie told the
Associated Press that The Wall Street Journal stood by the accuracy of
its story.

A former member of the World Bank's security team said he was not aware of the attack, but said criminal groups based mainly in Europe, Brazil and Southeast Asia "consistently
targeted" large banks and that the industry was "haemorrhaging funds".

"Ninety-eight percent of bank heists
are now occurring virtually and not in the real world,"
he told The Associated Press.

Last edited by vera susa; 23-12-2009 at 09:22 AM.

true lilly wrote:
Sorry guys, I forgot to point out the obvious in this news,
as I was thinking of someone who asked me about why
"They" want GOLD, who would have noticed it was what
I had answered them..."MIGHTY DUCKS"/SUPER MACHINES
that use a lot of GOLD in their circuitry ... they will NOT
be 'aliens' invading, but man made monstrous machine...

Public release date:
23-Dec-2009

Contact: Suzanne Taylor Muzzin
suzanne.taylormuzzin@yale.edu
203-403-8555
Yale University
Scientists create
world's first molecular transistor

IMAGE: Engineers adjusted the voltage applied
via gold contacts to a benzene molecule,
allowing them to raise and lower
the molecule’s energy states
and demonstrate that it could
be used exactly like a traditional transistor
at the molecular level.

Credit: Hyunwook Song and Takhee Lee
Usage Restrictions: With credit given.
This release is available in Chinese.

New Haven, Conn.—
A group of scientists has succeeded in creating
the first transistor made from a single molecule.

The team, which includes researchers from Yale University
and the Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology in South Korea,
published their findings in the December 24 issue
of the journal Nature.
The team, including Mark Reed, the Harold Hodgkinson
Professor of Engineering & Applied Science at Yale,
showed that a benzene molecule attached to gold
contacts could behave just like a silicon transistor.

The researchers were able to manipulate the molecule's
different energy states depending on the voltage they applied to it
through the contacts. By manipulating the energy states,
they were able to control the current passing through the molecule.

"It's like rolling a ball up and over a hill, where the ball represents
electrical current and the height of the hill represents the molecule's
different energy states," Reed said.
"We were able to adjust the height of the hill,
allowing current to get through when it was low,
and stopping the current when it was high."
In this way, the team was able to use the molecule
in much the same way as regular transistors are used.

The work builds on previous research Reed did in the 1990s,
which demonstrated that individual molecules
could be trapped between electrical contacts.
Since then, he and Takhee Lee, a former Yale postdoctoral associate
and now a professor at the Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology,
developed additional techniques over the years
that allowed them to "see" what was happening at the molecular level.

Being able to fabricate the electrical contacts
on such small scales, identifying the ideal molecules to use,
and figuring out where to place them and how to connect them
to the contacts were also key components of the discovery.
"There were a lot of technological advances
and understanding we built up over many years
to make this happen," Reed said.

There is a lot of interest in using
molecules in computer circuits
because traditional transistors
are not feasible at such small scales.
But Reed stressed that this is strictly
a scientific breakthrough and that
practical applications such as smaller and faster
"molecular computers"—if possible at all—
are many decades away.
(Ooohhh, he "stressed" it, so it "must be true"...)

"We're not about to create
the next generation of integrated circuits," he said.
"But after many years of work gearing up to this,
we have fulfilled a decade-long quest
and shown that molecules can act as transistors."
###
Other authors of the paper include Hyunwook Song and Yun Hee Jang
(Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology); and Youngsang Kim and
Heejun Jeong (Hanyang University).
Citation: 10.1038/nature08639

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true lilly wrote:Again, NAVAL MILITARY EXERCISES[color=green]...
..."COST MILLION"=INVESTED MILLIONS...
...and these reports are only what they ARE telling us...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1191

Laser fight:
Whaling war goes high-tech
Sea Shepherd Ady Gil

WHALE WARS:
Conservationists shine lasers
at Japanese harpoon vessel.
Source: PerthNow
Sea Shepherd and Japanese whalers
battle in Antartica

* Narelle Towie, Environment Reporter
* From: PerthNow
* December 23, 2009 12:45PM

LASERS and high-tech spy boats are being used
in the fight to save whales from Japanese 'researchers'.

Anti-whaling effects by conservation group Sea Shepherd erupted overnight with Japanese harpoon vessel the Shonan Maru No. 2
deploying water cannons
and noise devices while activists
fired laser lights and acid booms.

The two groups have been waring in the high-seas of Antartica over the past five days over whaling.

Sea Shepherd activists aboard the Steve Irwin were yesterday allegedly harassed and attacked with water cannons and
Long Range Acoustical Devices -
used to cause nausea and disorientation - by Japanese crew on the Shonan Maru No. 2.

Related Coverage

* Steve Irwin: Whaling foes in cannon clash
* Japanese security: Acoustic weapon used on Sea Shepherd
* Whaling foes in cannon clash Perth Now, 1 day ago
* Japan fires 'military' weapon at activists Perth Now, 5 days ago
* Japan deploys military against protesters: captain The Australian, 7 days ago
* First shots as whaling war erupts Perth Now, 7 days ago
* War erupts over Antarctic whaling Daily Telegraph, 8 days ago

Sea Shepherd controversially patrols Antarctic waters
aboard the Steve Irwin each year
to hunt down and hamper Japanese whaling fleets.

Conservationists left Fremantle on December 9.

But this year, the Japanese 'researchers' have prevented Sea Shepherd from locating the whaling fleet by tailing them and sending coordinates on the Steve Irwin's whereabouts to their counterparts.

Events heated up overnight when the Ady Gil,
a second Sea Shepherd vessel
which is painted with radar deflective paint,
arrived undetected.

In the early hours of the morning, the Ady Gil tried to slow down the
Shonan Maru No. 2 allowing the Steve Iwin to make a midnight getaway.

A statement by the Japanese states that Sea Shepherd crew
launched an acid attack on their vessel
while towing a rope from its stern
to tangle the Shonan Maru’s rudder and propeller.

Conservationists have also been accused of
throwing rotting butter, or butyric acid,
while shining green lasers at the Japanese crew.

The Japanese responded with water cannons and LRAD.

"At first it looked good, and the Steve Irwin was
able to put twelve miles between
the Shonan Maru No. 2 and itself," a statement from Sea Shepherd said.

"But despite being harassed by the Ady Gil for two hours,
the Japanese slowly worked their way back to a six-mile distance. "

"To accomplish this they had to
increase their speed to over twenty knots,
a speed at which, unfortunately,
the Steve Irwin cannot outrun."

During the melee, both the Ady Gil and Shonan Maru No. 2
are reported to have reached speeds over 20 knots in 2m swells.

The Ady Gil
currently carries five crew members including four
New Zealanders and one
Dutchcitizen.

While whaling is illegal, the Japanese use a loop hole in the law
which allows the culling to occur under the auspices of
scientific research. The meat is then sold in Japan.

Last year, the intervention of Sea Shepherd
is said to have cost the Japanese whalers
millions of dollars in lost profit.
~~~~~~~~~~

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

O.K. I also LONG AGO posted on all the KEY Features
of this 'news', and again STRESS:
THIS IS A COVER FOR ACTUAL MILITARY EXERCISES,
as we all Know 'they' don't give a hoop about saving
anything or one besides themselves, let alone bloody whales.

Japan fires 'military' weapon at activists

Shonan Maru No 2

ANTI-WHALERS complain after
Japanese ship follows and fires
"military class weapon" at them.

Sea Shepherd complain
about Japan's 'military' fightback

* From: AAP
* December 18, 2009 10:51AM

Antarctic Japan Whaling

The Japanese whaling ship Shonan Maru No 2
sprays water behind the anti-whaling group
flagship Steve Irwin as its crew races to take down
blades and secure the helicopter / AP Source: AP

* Sea Shepherd says it was followed illegally
* Uses helicopter to film "illegal" pursuer
* Ship "fired military class weapon" at chopper

THE anti-whale hunting group the Sea Shepherd said a Japanese security
ship has illegally followed them into French Antarctic waters and fired
"a military class weapon" at their helicopter.

The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society said the Japanese ship the Shonan
Maru No 2 had been following its vessel, the Steve Irwin, for nine of
the 10 days it had been sailing since leaving Fremantle.

Sea Shepherd said the Shonan Maru had been constantly reporting the
Steve Irwin's location, preventing it from closing in on the Japanese
whaling fleet.

A Sea Shepherd spokeswoman said the Steve Irwin entered French Antarctic
territorial waters, with permission from the French Base at Dumont
Durville, in a bid to lose the Shonan Maru.

But, the Shonan Maru No 2 followed the Steve Irwin without the French's permission, Sea Shepherd said.

Related Coverage

* First shots as whaling war erupts NEWS.com.au, 2 days ago
* Shoot-out on ice seas Herald Sun, 2 days ago
* Protesters ram whaling ship NEWS.com.au,
* Whale slaughter Daily Telegraph,
* Whaling war win claimed Mercury, 10 Feb 2009

The Sea Shepherd group said the French base had confirmed that the
Japanese ship neither requested nor received permission to enter French
waters.

The spokeswoman said the Steve Irwin helicopter then flew back to film the Shonan Maru in its pursuit.

"In response, the crew of the Japanese ship activated their Long Range Acoustical Device (LRAD) at the Sea Shepherd helicopter," she said.

"LRAD is a military class weapon."

Helicopter pilot Chris Aultman said
activating the weapon was extremely irresponsible.

"That device can cause nausea and disorientation
and the use of it against an aircraft
is extremely dangerous," he said.

The Sea Shepherd helicopter returned to the Steve Irwin for safety, at
which point the Shonan Maru increased speed and aimed their water canons
at the helicopter on the landing pad, the spokeswoman said.

Steve Irwin Captain Paul Watson said
the situation was now very dangerous.

"We have deliberately led the Japanese ship
into thick ice in order to lose them in the ice,"
he said.

"The icebergs could easily
damage either vessel."

Sea Shepherd said had reported the incident
to the French authorities adding that so far
the Steve Irwin ship was undamaged
but that the pursuit continued

Last edited by vera susa; 23-12-2009 at 06:29 PM.

...that may explain a little of why "tintin's" thread has dropped
from over 2500 views an hour, to barely 500...and I'm being trolled here now... Rolling Eyes

'Gold price could hit $2000 in 2012'
Arab Times Kuwait English Daily - 9 hours ago
To compound matters the central banks continued buying
has pushed gold prices higher. UBS raised its three month forecast
to $1850 from $1600 due to the ...
246 related articles

...it was $425.
when The Experts told us that was "TOO MUCH",
and when I first told folk to, "BUY GOLD" Wink

,
and everyone started 'calling me names' Rolling Eyes

true lilly Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:45 am

true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE! But NOT in a nice, 'stupid so
innocent' way. He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE
FOUNDATION FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP. And EDITS The Official David
Icke Forum. Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS, and now that HE IS
(RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER and You Just SIGNED UP
FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate: Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan
around the world and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots
Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

A hooded youth walks past a burning vehicle in Hackney during the London riots.
Herald Sun

POLICE are monitoring more than 70 youth and street gangs in Melbourne
in the wake of the British riots.

Assistant commissioner Steve Fontana, speaking exclusively to the Herald Sun, said the threat of isolated riots in Melbourne was real.

"We are certainly looking at what the lessons are from the UK. Yes, we've
still got a lot of work to do with our youth," he said.

"Could it happen in pockets? Yes, it could. Would it blow out across Melbourne? I doubt it."
Mr Fontana revealed:
LAW enforcement agencies across the nation are reviewing communications
laws to see what could be done to shut down the sort of riot inciting
SMS and texts that spread unrest in Britain and kept troublemakers a
step ahead of the police.

ABOUT 40 gangs are active in the city's northwest alone.

Related Coverage
Police bid to prevent riots Herald Sun, 2 hours ago
An eerie quiet before violent firestorm Adelaide Now, 9 Aug 2011
Review on gang violence in suburbs Herald Sun, 30 Jul 2011
Cops join forces to wage war on bikies The Australian, 27 Jul 2011
20th arrest over bikie riot Adelaide Now, 24 Jun 2011

GANGS are subject to regular intelligence assessments, but this
information isn't always available to police on the streets because of
the force's outdated database.
The force refuses to say exactly how many gangs
are active in the city or what it knows about the
hundreds of members and their activities.

A Freedom of Information request seeking details of gang names, locations, numbers
and suspected activities was rejected by the force before the UK riots.
But Mr Fontana assured the public that police here would not be caught off guard.
Hesays our strong economy, greater engagement with troubled youths and
large number of responsible young people makes UK-style riots less likely here.

"There's always a possibility, I think Cronulla showed there is always a possibility of these things occurring."

Mr Fontana said naming gangs or detailing their suspected strengths or activities would be unfair.

"Not all of them may have a criminal background and that's part of the issue."

In just a few minutes on the internet, theHerald Sun
discovered the names of 40 gangs from across the city, many of which
have been involved in stabbings and violent brawls, often in central Melbourne.

The figures suggest Melbourne has between 70 and 100 gangs.
Mr Fontana said gang membership tended to be fluid, often with a small core.
He said many were short-lived and not all were violent, with some linked
to graffiti or other public nuisance activities rather than serious crime.

Some were racially or sport based while others were so-called "postcode" gangs,
which could be little more than local kids who took their schoolyard fights to the streets.

Gangs have been linked to assaults, stabbings and brawls, a Molotov cocktail attack on a train, the firebombing of a home and attacks with deadly weapons including machetes, tomahawks, Tasers, bars, baseball bats, bottles, and knuckle-dusters.

"They don't really contribute to a large volume of crime but there is concern
in some areas because of the nature and severity of the violence," Mr Fontana said.

"If they become violent we do target their activities.

When we have a problem we will focus on it."
He acknowledged police were at times targets of gang violence.
"We are often confronted with groups ... who want to take us on -
some of them are armed."

Melbourne's gangs regularly use social media such as Facebook and Twitter to organise and recruit.
"There's always potential to shut down networks but implications of that could
cost someone their life by taking away their ability to communicate in
an emergency," Mr Fontana said.

The force has also invested heavily in boosting its presence in trouble spots such as train stations.
mickelburoughp@heraldsun.com.au

[quote="true lilly"]And there is MUCH more in current and recent news that goes with all this...

Underwater expedition delivers key findings
in search for evidence of early Americans

Mercyhurst College archaeologists
trace ancient river systems,
identify chert at 3 submerged sites

In one of the more dramatic moments of an underwater archaeological
survey co-led by Mercyhurst College archaeologist James Adovasio along
Florida's Gulf Coast this summer, Andy Hemmings stood on an inundated river's edge where man hasn't set foot in more than 13,000 years.

palomino wrote:
Originally Posted by palomino

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225807108312

Aborigines are ill-served by cultural falsification and fraud

AS a nation we want more from just about everybody. We demand better
from our politicians, our corporate executives, our young sportsmen and
women.

Yet we do not expect more from indigenous Australians. Sadly, as a
nation, Australians have a predilection for indigenous confection. We
undermine our national character when we accept cultural fraud. The real indigenous culture is as old as the land, with its wonderful tales of how, at the start of time, this great country was transformed by our ancestral beings.

Then there is an insidious modern culture: a culture of fabrication that preys on unquestioning mainstream Australians.

It thrives because of mainstream Australia's inability to spot a
cultural fraud even when it is staring it in the face. It is often
shrouded in the mystical and unchallenged by the naive for fear of
giving offence. It is handsomely rewarded with grants by unwitting
government officials. This false culture is abetted by a broad willingness to be hoodwinked.
...
In my community I have seen blatant cultural fraud and the fabrication of history
as a money-making strategy....

It is time to do away with the separatist double standards.
Wesley Aird is a member of the Australian Employment Covenant Implementation Team

true lilly wrote:Funny to, the TIMING of this year old 'news'
making today's headlines...HACKERS...one of
the reasons I happily 'outed myself'...Not being
at all pc savy and knowing I could not secure
access to my home, let alone computer, and having
nothing of worldly value on my pc, it was best that
who and where I was and what I'm up to always
be openly known by more than a few...this way,
anything illegal 'put on' or 'coming through' my pc
could be proven not to be OF me...as a 'certain someone'
and his hired thugs, tried to do in the past ...

anyway, enough of my reasoning, on to what most
really care about...MONEY...

Russian hackers 'steal millions' from Citibank

* By staff writers
* From: news.com.au
* December 23, 2009 12:12PM

GLOBAL finance giant Citigroup is denying reports
hackers stole "tens of millions" of dollars
from its banking arm Citibank midway through the year.

"Black Energy" was behind the losses...

"There's a newer, private version ofBlack Energy that
uses plugins to extend its capabilities beyond just DDoS (distributed
denial of service), security researcher Joe Stewart told www.pcworld.com.
Related Coverage
* Banks: Rate rise warning for 2010
* FBI probes cyber attack on Citigroup: report Australian IT, 9 hours ago
* FBI probes US terror suspects in Pakistan The Australian, 11 Dec 2009
* Leighton owner pulls IPO The Australian, 3 Dec 2009
* What GFC? Fat cat bonuses are here again NEWS.com.au, 14 Oct 2009
* Bankers set for record bonus season The Australian, 14 Oct 2009[/b]
http://www.news.com.au/business/russ...-1225813099266

The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI,
the National Security Agency,
the Department of Homeland Security
and Citigroup exchanged information
to counter the attack,
which could have begun as long as a year ago.

The hackers, named in The Guardian as
the "Russian Business Network",
first gained notoriety several years ago
after masterminding a string of hi-tech crimes
including identity theft, fraud, spam
and child pornography.

Citigroup, the world's largest financial services company,
rejected any suggestion the FBI was investigating an incident
and denied that a raid of such proportions had taken place.

"Any allegation that the FBI is working on a case at Citigroup
involving a breach of Citi systems resulting in
tens of millions of dollars of losses is false," it said.
...
A former member of the World Bank's security team said he was not aware of the attack, but said criminal groups based mainly in Europe, Brazil and Southeast Asia "consistently
targeted" large banks and that the industry was "haemorrhaging funds".

"Ninety-eight percent of bank heists
are now occurring virtually and not in the real world,"
he told The Associated Press.

Last edited by vera susa; 23-12-2009 at 09:22 AM.

true lilly wrote:
Sorry guys, I forgot to point out the obvious in this news,
as I was thinking of someone who asked me about why
"They" want GOLD, who would have noticed it was what
I had answered them..."MIGHTY DUCKS"/SUPER MACHINES
that use a lot of GOLD in their circuitry ... they will NOT
be 'aliens' invading, but man made monstrous machine...

Public release date:
23-Dec-2009

Contact: Suzanne Taylor Muzzin
suzanne.taylormuzzin@yale.edu
203-403-8555
Yale University
Scientists create
world's first molecular transistor

IMAGE: Engineers adjusted the voltage applied
via gold contacts to a benzene molecule,
allowing them to raise and lower
the molecule’s energy states
and demonstrate that it could
be used exactly like a traditional transistor
at the molecular level.

Credit: Hyunwook Song and Takhee Lee
Usage Restrictions: With credit given.
This release is available in Chinese.
....
"There were a lot of technological advances
and understanding we built up over many years
to make this happen," Reed said.

There is a lot of interest in using
molecules in computer circuits
because traditional transistors
are not feasible at such small scales.
But Reed stressed that this is strictly
a scientific breakthrough and that
practical applications such as smaller and faster
"molecular computers"—if possible at all—
are many decades away.
(Ooohhh, he "stressed" it, so it "must be true"...)

"We're not about to create
the next generation of integrated circuits," he said.
"But after many years of work gearing up to this,
we have fulfilled a decade-long quest
and shown that molecules can act as transistors."

ITP.netIBM develops chip that works like human brain
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[quote="true lilly"]Again, NAVAL MILITARY EXERCISES[color=green]...
..."COST MILLION"=INVESTED MILLIONS...
...and these reports are only what they ARE telling us...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1191
Take Heed... - Page 6 War_worlds_pal_8_x

Take Heed... - Page 6 War_worlds_pal_8_x

Take Heed... - Page 6 189002-pn-news-slideshow-image-whaling-war-heats-up

Laser fight:
Whaling war goes high-tech
Sea Shepherd Ady Gil

WHALE WARS:
Conservationists shine lasers
at Japanese harpoon vessel.
Source: PerthNow
Sea Shepherd and Japanese whalers
battle in Antartica

* Narelle Towie, Environment Reporter
* From: PerthNow
* December 23, 2009 12:45PM

LASERS and high-tech spy boats are being used
in the fight to save whales from Japanese 'researchers'.

...that may explain a little of
why "tintin's" thread has dropped
from over 2500 views an hour,
to barely 500...
and I'm being trolled here now... Rolling Eyes

'Gold price could hit $2000 in 2012'
Arab Times Kuwait English Daily - 9 hours ago
To compound matters the central banks continued buying
has pushed gold prices higher. UBS raised its three month forecast
to $1850 from $1600 due to the ...
246 related articles

...it was $425.
when The Experts told us that was "TOO MUCH",
and when I first told folk to, "BUY GOLD" Wink

,
and everyone started 'calling me names' Rolling Eyes

true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.

Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do ),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,

cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.

P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.

P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.

P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.

true lilly Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:22 am

Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that 'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT... Twisted Evil

...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS

And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH......TO,
those 'cleaning them up'... Razz

...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and I do think 'you' have, "given a shit", right down
the legs 'you' still have, unlike
other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS Twisted Evil

,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore... Evil or Very Mad

Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek
Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
17 comments

RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011

Take Heed... - Page 6 340656-cannons-creek-explosion

Take Heed... - Page 6 340656-cannons-creek-explosion

Two men were seriously injured in the explosion. Picture: Tess Follett Herald Sun
< Prev1 of 3Next >UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion
in Cannons Creek last night
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.
Neighbours felt shockwaves as the blast ripped through the area
about 11pm, with one of the men losing both of his legs in the accident.
The blast happened at a gathering of family and friends where the men in
their 20s were mixing commonly bought chemicals in a metal tin, with up
to 12 others standing back.
When asked if the explosion was caused by an amateur bomb,
Arson Squad Senior Detective Cameron Lunny said:
"I'd call it an improvised explosive device".
"It's been likened to a huge thunder clap from what I understand," he said.
He said the men were just experimenting with the chemicals, which the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, and that nothing sinister was at play.

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Girl dies in cremation blast Herald Sun, 2 Aug 2011
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Two men burned in blast at pub Courier Mail, 21 Jun 2011

"They were just having a bit of a muck around I think,'' Sen Det Lunny said.
"There's certainly no indication there was anything apart from experimenting."
The 23-year-old Cannons Creek man and 24-year-old from Pakenham were
standing over the mixture, trying to bury it when it went off.
No-one else was hurt and there was no property damaged,
despite the strength of the blast.
Next door neighbour Arlene Trevethan said the explosion created shockwaves.
"It just shook the house. I came out and I thought it was a fire or something,'' she said.
Another neighbour initially thought an earthquake had struck.
Local Robert Dudgeon said he had heard similar explosions in the past, which police are investigating.
"There were others here over the past month or so,'' he said.
"One night there were three in a row. Whether it's the same source or not, I don't know."
Sen Det Lunny pleaded with others not to experiment with dangerous chemicals.
"We're getting a lot recently of people undertaking mixing of chemicals.
It just goes to show it's not a very smart thing to do and I just plead to
the people thinking about this not to do it - it's very, very dangerous."
He didn't say whether the injured men had sourced the recipe from the internet or whether charges would be laid.
The two men were airlifted to Melbourne hospitals where they remain in critical conditions.
Intensive care paramedic Ben Meadley said the men suffered extensive injuries.
"A 24 year-old man
suffered significant blast-type injures
to his legs and hands,
the type of injury you would more liken to
what you would see in a war situation
rather than in outer suburban Melbourne,'' he said.
"He also had severe airway burns and facial burns.''
The man was put into an induced coma
before he was flown to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a critical condition.
A 23-year-old man suffered burns to his face and arms and burns to his airway
which can cause swelling and restrict breathin.
Anyone with information should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit Crime Stoppers
- with Shelley Hadfield
17 comments on this story

Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention 'that' thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... Take Heed... - Page 6 802367

another
of 'their' Take Heed... - Page 6 888898

Very Unfortunate 'mates' Take Heed... - Page 6 252310

...

...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' Twisted Evil

...

Critically injured men 'were making an IED'
Take Heed... - Page 6 473968-cannon-039-s-creek

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
UPDATE 12pm:
TWO men critically injured
in a backyard explosion in Cannons Creek
were making a home-made explosive,
police say.

true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.

And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.

And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.

Listen to your masters,
'Jason'/'Billy Ruben', and,
"SHUT THE HELL UP,
about Australia!" Take Heed... - Page 6 233183

David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben

Take Heed... - Page 6 662940

ahh, yes, but to WHOM.... Take Heed... - Page 6 252310

...and, what and whom Suspect

will they be watching for... Take Heed... - Page 6 93349

11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News

Take Heed... - Page 6 Main-gap2-300x340

Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?

It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.

Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive Very Happy

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine
- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.
But first, here's what FitzSimons says:

It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece. All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure, and my best hope is that this story
might give hope to those who contemplate it. And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.
... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....

Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... Wink

...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
...remember, they have long controlled the
"PUBLIC RELEASE" Dates And TIMING of
IMPORTANT, RELATED, Scientific Discoveries... Wink

Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.

A team of researchers from the University of WA
and Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.

The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"
Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made about the age of fossils.
The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.

"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( Laughing

...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink

...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)

Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003

Take Heed... - Page 6 Ediac1_231003

Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH. Very Happy

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true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.

And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.

And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.

And for how many years
have I warned that my enemies
are also enemies of Australia
and Every Living Soul who
DOESN'T HATE THE CREATOR OF LIFE...
...Too BLOODY Many!

RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011

...and, it's ALL THERE,
FREELY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE
who cares to put GOD'S WORD and
WHAT IS REAL IN THIS REAL WORLD,
ABOVE what GOD'S ENEMIES PREACH.

MoMo Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:34 pm

el kabong wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7guzT6ANI&feature=fvst

git yer groove on!

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3af4ZJS4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMniyUyqN_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM

true lilly wrote:

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
thumbs up

One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.

Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet.

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.

true lilly Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:29 pm

true lilly wrote:Again, remember, The Books we call The Bible
cover every topic under the sun, and still, when
I pray about what say, or not to say, well as you
can see, I open Those Pages (randomly) at what
is timely and relevant to the topics I'm covering;
and that's even before bothering to read the full
descriptive meanings of each of those REVEALING
WORDS in That Holy Collection of Books.

So Please, Do, click on the link.

Psalms 49:1-20
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=49&v=1&t=KJV#top

So, how many separate posts
can 'they' SPAM IN THE SAME MINUTE,
WITHOUT BEING DRAGGED THROUGH
the lengthy "Confirmation Code" BS,
and countless edits to fix hacks as I AM,
and, WHY DO 'they' HAVE TO
SPAM=BURY ONE SIMPLE MESSAGE
that NONE of the world's
CONspiracy gurus DARE TOUCH?

The simple answer...

Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.

But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.

The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.

FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.

...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,
BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,
'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.

Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but,
to Know, Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.

And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.

true lilly wrote:Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention this thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... another
of 'their' Very Unfortunate 'mates' ...

...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' ...

David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben

ahh, yes, but to WHOM....

...and, what and whom

will they be watching for...

true lilly wrote:

David Icke's 'australian's'=COMPLETE SELL OUTS!
...and too stupidly proud to...

...or... ...so...

...well, prove 'they' aren't... ...at least 'the name' 'Billy Ruben'
is finally posting here again, but no text to say, "Sorry.", or even,
"O.K. I still disagree with you, but I see you make some valid points,
so I'll stop threatening to kill you.", unlike 'his/her/their' barrage of
texts that do threaten my life, And Worse...so even a moron could
tell, that that is, idiotically, stupidly proud...All Things Considered...
true lilly wrote:Just another "tintin/cori" 'classic' bit of
CODE KEY FILLED, NEWS of TODAY, that
'they' are also ignoring...and yeah, note:
The Significance of "The HOOD[Y]"

Leonardo DiCaprio arrives
in Australia to shoot
The Great Gatsby

The great Leo arrives in the hood

Tonya Turner
LEONARDO DiCaprio
has touched down in Sydney
to begin filming The Great Gatsby,
making a quick getaway
dressed incognito.
Video

Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots
Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/victoria-police-monitoring-gangs-in-melbourne-following-british-riots/story-fn7x8me2-1226119207091
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke",
this thread is on the First Page.
So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts,
TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL
(by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and
BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE,
IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post.

So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you",
THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB
and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS
(the Stolen, Dehydrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT",
"you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home,
recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!
and the other one that wasn't mine, now lives here, happily,
on the 2 1/2 feet he has left),
gives people GOOD REASON TO READ
WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...
posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS,
THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry
IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE,
AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.

Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek
Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/two-critically-injured-in-chemical-blast-at-cannons-creek/story-fn7x8me2-1226119289534
17 comments
RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011

Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that 'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS

horror, wing, walker,
helicopter, 60m, death,
Todd Green
...gee, only some of,
"cori" and "tintin's" Favourite
CODE/TRIGGER KEYS,
from only one headline,
of this, BIG, TODAY'S NEWS,
and where are 'they'...
August 22, 2011

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES
An airshow audience's gasps of awe
turned to gasps of horror
as wing walker Todd Green
lost his grip from a helicopter
and plunged 60m
to his death.
Picture: AP
Read More
Wing walker tragedy
...NOT posting about it,
or any of this, either...
true lilly wrote:
NOW, 16 MODERATORS at DAVID ICKE Official Forums:

lookfar, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave,

measle_weasel, merlincove, ufochick,

mace, drhemp, thommo, scottishryan,

hunter77, weeman, atlantabizgal,

infidelyork, edelweiss pirate

...despite how many have STOPPED POSTING...
...maybe something to do with...

This post was made by Billy Ruben who is currently on your ignore list.
So what do/does 'he/she/they' NOT GET?

Why the need to keep texting me about 'their' latest posts
in 'their' very personal, literal, war against me, as if I
and my opinions, matter more than, The War being fought?

I've often made it perfectly clear that I'm more than happy
to speak WITH any, real, individual person, about what I post,
but even when 'Billy/Jason' does ring and speak AT me, 'he'
can't be bothered remembering, where 'he's' supposed to be,
'who's' supposed to have told 'him' what, or that 'he' can't block
the number or location, from which 'he' makes 'his' worst threats,
from 'those who know and matter'.

And so, being a self proven, as well as self confessed,
NOT so Secret [anymore] Agenda Pushing, 'Agent'
of the BAD 'them'...yep, there is a GOOD 'them'...I can't
keep treating 'him/her/them' as if 'they' are not the very
same, very dangerously deceitful ilk, I first stated posting
warnings for real individuals to take heed of.

Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...

...got another call from him, to inform me of this thread...
...idiots...they couldn't even start to construct a believable tale...
...the price of that 'intelligence' supplied by idiots ...anyway...

Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...
...and at such a time... ...Team Leader "tintin" will be miffed,
with 'YOU' and...
true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE!
But NOT in a nice, 'stupid, so innocent' way.
He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION
FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP.
And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum.
Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS,
and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER
and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate:
Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world
and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
'Funny', though, how
'they' can't take the joke, of
the intended victims laughing at the joy
of one more hour of Blessed Life...
...that is another WARNING, as 'they' are
committed to KILLING THEMSELVES TO KILL
(ALL WHO REFUSE), to BOW TO THE BEAST,
and so, DIE TWICE and FOREVER.

And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH......TO,
those 'cleaning them up'... ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and
I do think 'you' have, "given a shit",
right down the legs 'you' still have,
unlike
other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...

I don't know how far 'Billy Ruben' outed those
he was slaving to defend, but I do hope that
at least some, if not all of them, will finally see,
clearly enough, to stop cursing their blessings,
repent, and live...their own lives, and, stop trying
to prevent me from living mine...what, you say, 'if
I really cared, I'd have made the pill sweeter!'...but,
I did, for decades, I made it ever so sweet, smooth,
small and easy to swallow, when I should have realized
that they were so poisoned with bitterness, what they
really needed, way back then, was a bloody big enema!

Scientists claim
bacteria fossils discovered
in Port Hedland are more than
3.4 billion years old
From:AAP
August 22, 2011 9:00AM

A 3D image of the 3.4 billion-year-old microfossil found in Western Australia. Picture: AFP / David Wacey and Derek Gertsmann.

Strelley Pool in Pilbara region of Western Australia
where the fossils were found. Picture: AFP / David Wacey

SCIENTISTS in Western Australia have uncovered fossils which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.

A team of researchers from the University of WA and Britain's
Oxford University say they have proof that the microscopic fossils,
found at Strelley Pool near Port Hedland, are more than 3.4 billion
years old.

The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved between quartz sand
grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks, Oxford University's Professor
Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils) as the rocks
were formed between two volcanic successions that narrow
the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years," he said in a statement.
The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise cell-like structures
all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen," Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in smelly ditches,
soil, hot springs, hydrothermal vents —
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.

The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that the forms seen in
the rocks are biological and have not occurred through some mineralisation process,
Prof Brasier said.
"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils, and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.

"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."
( ...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING ...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)

Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003

Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
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true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are
you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.

And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.

And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

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That's
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Who told us, From The Beginning,
about
All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE
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