An open letter about Droike, who else??!!

teroVox wrote:
Hi lydia,
Hope you, your mum and Alan are well

I have a dilema. Boring subject I'm afraid but it is an important one, more important than it appears people are realising. My dilema is that I can't, and don't want to, harp on about how serious the the machinations of our resident troll will become but I also sense that the admin might need to know.

Caught between auld nick and the deep blue. Bringing the bad vibes or letting things deteriorate to the point of no return.

What i need to know is how much you guys realise about what PJ Cameron is up to and if the 'ignore and chill' strategy is a product of considered thought and discussion or if it's a product of naivety about how this guy operates.

I realise that you will have had convo's with people about this away from the site and that heads will have been put together and knowledge pooled. Also that the rest of the admin, like yourself, are intelligent and perceptive people and will have understood something of the dynamics of the situation.

I've seen this scenario play out before, seen the results of it, the real pain it can cause some of the genuine people who value the friends they make on forums like this one.

I hope i'm wrong here but i have the feeling that people are being led up the garden path and that the intentions of the troll aren't being fully understood.

The ignore and chill strategy doesn't work with this guy. As he changes the nature of what he is doing, the strategy begins to turn to apathy and the people who show genuine concern are made to look obsessive and paranoid. He has over ten years experience of doing this and he knows how people try to deal with it. Please don't be fooled into thinking everything is hunky dory when really he is exactly on course to achieve his aims. He has a deviousness born out of experience and a practised methodology honed by trial and error.

It's difficult for me to do this without appearing like a fear-mongering paranoid but not all people are what or who they seem to be. Be careful that you can verify identities 100% before releasing any important information. On three occasions that I know of he has engineered people to give him moderation rights on their forums and you can imagine what chaos that has caused. You can't trust IP info and you can't trust footprints because he has software that can edit registry info on the fly. I've witnnesed situations where he has had 3 pc's, all with different tracking info, IP's and usernames, logged onto a forum at he same time. Situations where he has been logged on and presenting an identical IP to someone who was also logged on at the same time. You would think that can't happen but his spoofer CAN do that.

I apologise again for bombarding you with this but I feel I must, he knows this will happen and he uses it to divide the people who are responsible for, and care about, the genuine users of the boards he attacks.

:-?

Love

David

HeteroVox wrote:
Txs for the heads up on the MU Lyds, It's my b/day on the 13 Feb, I'll def pop down there at some point.

Yes Lydia, I understand were you are coming from now.

A word to the wise though, keep an open mind, JD doesn't need anyone to fight with, that isn't his aim. If he doesn't get a combatant he'll fight with himself as two different users.

His purpose is to discourage new members and to gradually whittle down members who value the company of a forum.

It's easy to mistake this guy for another type, many people have made the mistake you are making. He is not like anything you will have encountered b4 on the net, he isn't just a click kiddie, or a troubled soul with a personality disorder who thrives on negative vibes. In his mind he has a mission, no-one i know has ever discovered WHY he does what he does, but he will quite happily bide his time and take YEARS to close a board down.

On the hacking side. I would advise you inform ALL admin and mods to tighten up their password security, use 14 character, 4 case passwords and change them every 15 days. It's not hard to carry out such a practise if you develop a protocol for generating passwords (I can help you with that if you need me to).
I apologise about this Lydia, I really do, but there isn't any other way to get across what is happening. I realise it promotes the vibes this guy is after, and that it makes it appear that i'm following an obsession, I'm not. I'm relaxed. What I'm concerned about is that it's clear you guys are under-estimating JD. He isn't what you think he is, and how you are dealing with it is exactly what he expects. Don't be fooled into thinking you have it under control, I've seen him conduct this precise same scenario before.

If you have the time, contact Hagbard Celine on DIF and ask him about; PJ Cameron, Ernist, Davros, Cletus spitznozzle, Bobby, Drummer Girl, etc I can list about 30 usernames, all JD aliases on the same forum. Haggers doesn't know the full story because he asn't been a moderator on TRR, DC, The truth campaign, etc, but he'll be able to tell you something of how JD turns very active boards into ghost towns. Tell him Kah says HI!!! :-)

In terms of info there is nothing i can tell you, i can give you old usernames and IP's he has used but they don't mean anything. His spoofer can register any IP he wants, yours mine, even xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx if he chooses. The only time you can use IP's is if he is using the same proxy server for several, different, concurrent, usernames, and the server allocates intersecting IP's over a period of time. All that does is allows you to identify some of his active accounts but he doesn't always use the same servers. I can recognise his footprint from IP log data but only by a gestalt process. The only other guy I know, who has dealt with JD in the past, who can spot him with any degree of accuracy is JVH. Jan Van often got succked into JD's psycho dramas and sometimes made bad decisions on the fly, ultimately JD ruined JVH's reputation amongst that crowd by hacking his admin account and deleting the whole post history, blaming him for the porn spambot form direction (which is a JD trademark BTW we'll be getting them here soon too, he's already set up the patsy for it).

One last thing, and this is the hardest thing for me to say, watch for things happening in the back end of the board that don't seem to make sense. It could well be an indicator that someone you think is ok is actually JD. I'm not saying suspend your trust, as we both know it would be a sorry day if someone like JD did that to us, just keep an eye on it and if it does start to happen, deal with it as and when with a clear heart and open mind.

:-? :-? :-? :-? :-? :-? Out of love, not conflict Lyds,


I'll help all I can,

Hugs

This 'gentleman' is so notorious in the Conspricarcy forums, and is a delibrate skeptic. I know with these Internet personilties it is a question of it's only the internet but think of it this way. These people are negative mental energies.

Well Droike give yourself a wonderful sarnie of something and a hot drink for you are talked about you Internet Sentinel. I loved Winston's response regarding this. A Attention Whore of the highest order ain't you.

Mrs Tiswas wrote:
If you have the time, contact Hagbard Celine on DIF and ask him about; PJ Cameron, Ernist, Davros, Cletus spitznozzle, Bobby, Drummer Girl, etc I can list about 30 usernames, all JD aliases on the same forum.

As Ferd Said....Drummer Girl,

WTF

Droike is the best friend of mr David icke because he is talked more about thanks to him and his big foul mouth. those swearwords are hilarious and make me laugh out loud. I love the way he thinks of himself and I am honoured to be a 'victim' of his flames.
Dumb, stupid, mad kunt Tiswas is the one laughing all the time. Oh and the reason I am here is to be entertained by him.

Mrs Tiswas wrote:Droike is the best friend of mr David icke because he is talked more about thanks to him and his big foul mouth. those swearwords are hilarious and make me laugh out loud. I love the way he thinks of himself and I am honoured to be a 'victim' of his flames.
Dumb, stupid, mad kunt Tiswas is the one laughing all the time. Oh and the reason I am here is to be entertained by him.

I think you are adorable tiswas.

Its amazing how poor your memory is Tiswas. We have been over this 6 or more times yet her you are again with the same old shit.

TeroVox is Khadoosh from the old DC forum. TeroVox and JVH both got chaught out by marco wolf from illusions doing things on the forum they shouldnt. So to hide the evidence JVH delete all the forums on DC. When Handbag asked what had happened JVH said he did it by mistake.

I did not do the things dooshbag says i did but i do laugh at twats that read things on the net and take the as truth.

If anyone wants proof what Tiswas has posted about me is bollocks then just PM me.

I prefer to think of you, John, as a mighty Haxor Warrior against Woo. At least feed into my delusions a bit.