And rember folks Ickes not a racist
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And rember folks Ickes not a racist
The fact that he supports groups like rainbow ark that want all non whites out of the Uk dosent make him a racist. Being a supporter of David Duke a grand wizard of the KKK who is in prison for holocaust denial after being arrested in Austria while attending a meeting of neo Nazis dosent make our Dave racist. Im mean how can anyone think Ickes a racist and anti Semitic for advocating people read the protocols? I mean its not like any of his former work colleagues at the BBC have come out and said they were continually shocked by his anti Semitic out bursts is it? Lets face it someone who openly surports a magazine like the spotlight cant possibly far right wing anti Semitic racialist scum can they?
Just a coincidence nothing to worry about.
Just a coincidence nothing to worry about.
John Drake- Posts : 1624
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Stop making crap up, and he is not a friend of David Duke OK. Granted that Icke does attract the racists in his forum, and Duke has visited his site like you have as a current member OK. Well let me tell you something Droike, Icke has black friends OK and so called liberals will not even go to their house OK. Full of lies you are, and BTW I am talking to fellow Cthuhlu worshippers so stop wasting my time and thoughts.
Are you stumped in the DIF???
Are you stumped in the DIF???
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Tiswas wrote:Stop making crap up, and he is not a friend of David Duke OK. Granted that Icke does attract the racists in his forum, and Duke has visited his site like you have as a current member OK. Well let me tell you something Droike, Icke has black friends OK and so called liberals will not even go to their house OK. Full of lies you are, and BTW I am talking to fellow Cthuhlu worshippers so stop wasting my time and thoughts.
Are you stumped in the DIF???
Sorry mate but Icke is a supporter of David Duke, rainbow ark and the spotlight lol. His own words say it.
Its laughable that you use the "hes not a racist he has black friends" card.
The evidence is plain to see by his writing and his association, however im not surprised you claim you cant see it as you claim your mate Goldy didnt call you a black bitch but all three of us know she did.
Credo Mutwa is a black man as you may have noticed but Icke would over look the fact if hes a useful tool to help make him money which he is. Remember Americans didnt give a shit about blacks picking corn so long as they got corn and it was cheap. On top of that there is good evidence Credo Mutwa is a nonce and only gets away with it because people dare not testify against him because he is leader of the tribe. One of the elite you could say.
You can say that the Jewish guy who help to fiance one of Ickes books proves Icke is not really anti Semitic but is this guy really a Jew or just Jewish by birth? A real Jew would have nothing to do with Icke because of the things he says like Hitler was a Jew.
If you actually did read some of Ickes shit you would know that he says the protocols are genuine when in fact they have been shown to be fake. All SS soldiers in the war carried a copy. You would see that Icke says things like on target, rainbow ark and the spotlight are brilliant even though they are far right racist and anti Semitic groups and publications. But you wont.
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Always talking about a self-made story regd my own personal friend Goldy, who I say this w/end.
Curse of Cthulhu to you Droike, go watch some old fogey TV shows that you enjoy.
Curse of Cthulhu to you Droike, go watch some old fogey TV shows that you enjoy.
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Not once ever has your mate Goldy said she didnt call you a black bitch and thats because she did and shes worried that as soon as shy denys it rummor mill will pop up again and prove that she did. Whats funny though is the fact you know she did and yet lie for her. You went fucking ape shit when she posted that and you know you did.
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David supported the campaign to get David Duke released from jail for Holocaust Denial. This doesn't make David a supporter or Duke, the KKK or any of its policies. I supported thew campaign too. I'm not a racist or Jew-hater and I'm totally opposed to the KKK. The point was that the crime of Holocaust Denial exists in the first place. We're heading for tyranny when somebody can be jailed for speaking an opinion, no matter how repulsive you find it. Remember that the Nazis and Soviet regimes both used the criminalization of free speech as ways of supressing dissent.
I've never heard of Rainbow Ark. Is it like the BNP or NF etc? If it is then I'd be against it, but still counter any moves by the so-called "antifascists" to gag them.
I've never heard of Rainbow Ark. Is it like the BNP or NF etc? If it is then I'd be against it, but still counter any moves by the so-called "antifascists" to gag them.
Hagbard Celine- Posts : 250
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I remember that a ASIAN woman did not oppose letting Nick Griffin and the other guy talk in Oxford University either Haggie. I detest David duke and his politics but I still think he needs freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech that man would become some sort of Marytr, and I know you are looking at my posts in my forum OK.
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You're right, Tis.
After the Oxford Union protest, which I attended to investigate, Nick Griffin and his cohorts went to public events with patches over their mouths! David Irving has gained a lot of public sympathy for the way he was treated. e was jailed too and so was Ernst Zundel. This is what David is doing. He's not supporting those men, he is protesting against them being jailed for expressing their views.
In the 1980's the govt banned the BBC from allowing interviews with members or supporters of Sinn Fein and this debate goes back to then. If we start jailing Holocaust Revisionists then where do we draw the line? Why not lock up people like me who deny the Apollo moon landings? I think that if Droike had his way that would become law. He is not the only person who sees things in very polarized and simplistic ways; therefore it wouldn't be hard to breed a reflex-action in society to denounce Apollo Hoax Thoerists as evil in the same way Holocaust Revisionists are today. Ten we could go on to... say Methodists, then Antarctic Ice Sheet Dynamicists, then Supergravity Physicists. That's why we have to nip this in the bud.
After the Oxford Union protest, which I attended to investigate, Nick Griffin and his cohorts went to public events with patches over their mouths! David Irving has gained a lot of public sympathy for the way he was treated. e was jailed too and so was Ernst Zundel. This is what David is doing. He's not supporting those men, he is protesting against them being jailed for expressing their views.
In the 1980's the govt banned the BBC from allowing interviews with members or supporters of Sinn Fein and this debate goes back to then. If we start jailing Holocaust Revisionists then where do we draw the line? Why not lock up people like me who deny the Apollo moon landings? I think that if Droike had his way that would become law. He is not the only person who sees things in very polarized and simplistic ways; therefore it wouldn't be hard to breed a reflex-action in society to denounce Apollo Hoax Thoerists as evil in the same way Holocaust Revisionists are today. Ten we could go on to... say Methodists, then Antarctic Ice Sheet Dynamicists, then Supergravity Physicists. That's why we have to nip this in the bud.
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Nhar we just laigh at Hoax nuts, its not like it invoves the sytematic killing of millions of people is it? Not quite in the same league as holocaust denial. However Handbag i reckon if you saw a shrink and told him about all you belifes he would proberbly section you. Telling him you were contomplating attacking the queen with blood so she would shape shift into a space lizard would get you a long way there on its own.
David Irving moaning about freedom of speach now thats too fucking rich. What did he think of Lucy Dawidowicz's freedom of speach when he tried to sue her and get her book banned. Seems to me David Irving thinks its one rule for him and another for Lucy Dawidowicz.
Nick Griffin needs a patch over his mouth. What these people say in public is not what they say in private. Remeber when BNP meetings were secretly taped and shown on TV? BNP is designed to be a front which is more palatable to voters but in secret behined closed doors its still the same old National front. They still use threats and beatings to keep people in line.
All i can say to you Tiswas is god help the Asian woman who surported Nick Griffin if the BMP ever get in power. She wont be living in Britan for long after that. You see she has been suckered by this new face of the far right wing. Nick Griffin himself has been recored saying say what they want to hear to get in power then impliment our real agenda.
David Irving moaning about freedom of speach now thats too fucking rich. What did he think of Lucy Dawidowicz's freedom of speach when he tried to sue her and get her book banned. Seems to me David Irving thinks its one rule for him and another for Lucy Dawidowicz.
Nick Griffin needs a patch over his mouth. What these people say in public is not what they say in private. Remeber when BNP meetings were secretly taped and shown on TV? BNP is designed to be a front which is more palatable to voters but in secret behined closed doors its still the same old National front. They still use threats and beatings to keep people in line.
All i can say to you Tiswas is god help the Asian woman who surported Nick Griffin if the BMP ever get in power. She wont be living in Britan for long after that. You see she has been suckered by this new face of the far right wing. Nick Griffin himself has been recored saying say what they want to hear to get in power then impliment our real agenda.
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Excuse me Droike, not all folk born in India and China actually want to be living in Britian, and do you know something it is thier spending power that is great for British economy.
I am fond of Britian, because Britian was very good to the Jewish refugees during WW11, and Britian is not so dumb to allow the BNP to win a election OK. Anyway that Asian woman who supported the freedom of speech is entitled to her beliefs. Just think if those folk in Canada did not make such a song and dance about Ickebloke talking, he would of not even got a huge amount of free publicity. His shows would of just had a mediocre turnout, if no publicity was given to him.
I am fond of Britian, because Britian was very good to the Jewish refugees during WW11, and Britian is not so dumb to allow the BNP to win a election OK. Anyway that Asian woman who supported the freedom of speech is entitled to her beliefs. Just think if those folk in Canada did not make such a song and dance about Ickebloke talking, he would of not even got a huge amount of free publicity. His shows would of just had a mediocre turnout, if no publicity was given to him.
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As Jello Biafra said "Close your eyes it cant happen here".
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and I know you called Mountain a coon, i know you were Oops there. You are the one with the complex regd someones colour not goldy, and you are like a broken record. BTW stop insulting Haggie and Bill Kaysing who I am reading and learning loads of OK.
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Tiswas wrote:and I know you called Mountain a coon, i know you were Oops there. You are the one with the complex regd someones colour not goldy, and you are like a broken record.
And you know this how? Listen if i wanted to call someone a coon (which is not the sort of thing i would do) i wouldnt hide about doing it.
Im like a broken record read your forum. Each time you make a new one you post the same posts on it lol.
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Hey stop spying on my forum OK, and I am not a broken record OK. And Goldy was right in saying Pikey was a racist term, and can I remind you of the fact that I AM NOT BLACK OK.
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Tiswas wrote:Hey stop spying on my forum OK, and I am not a broken record OK. And Goldy was right in saying Pikey was a racist term, and can I remind you of the fact that I AM NOT BLACK OK.
How is reading your forum spying? You say when i read your forum its spying but i just dont get why you think that. If you dont want the public to read yor words then dont post them on a public forum duh.
I notice how you and Glody are laying into me about the use of the word Pikey but Del posted all, those Pikey jokes and you dont say shit to him lol. Could you explain why you havent mentioned anything to Del lol.
Why would you want to remind me of the fact that you are not black when ive never said you are. Its your mate Goldy that called you a black bitch not me.
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BTW
So Goldy was very selective in the information she gave. She described the origins of the word not its contemporary use (even within the the Romani community). Ethnic group, place of origin etc matter not in the use of the word in its contemporary form.
Cant see any racism can you?
Ive showed you contemporary use and Romani use and neither are racist.
In my post on IL i used the contemporary use of the term.
Pikey's most common contemporary use is not as a term for the Gypsy ethnic group, but as a catch-all phrase to refer to people, of any ethnic group, who travel around with no fixed abode.
Pikey is also commonly used to describe someone living in a caravan (not necessarily a Romani) and a "half pikey" is someone who lives in a caravan but owns the land it occupies.
The term pikey is used by Romani Gypsies to refer to a member who has been cast out of the family.
In the life of a Romany gypsy, published in 1973 and written by the Romani author Manfri Frederick Wood.
So Goldy was very selective in the information she gave. She described the origins of the word not its contemporary use (even within the the Romani community). Ethnic group, place of origin etc matter not in the use of the word in its contemporary form.
Cant see any racism can you?
Ive showed you contemporary use and Romani use and neither are racist.
In my post on IL i used the contemporary use of the term.
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If a Pikey is someone who lives in a caravan but dosent own the land, and a half Pikey lives in a caravan but does own the land whats Keith Richards?
He has a caravan at both the front and rear of his house (mansion) he owns the land but lives in the house and the caravan.
He has a caravan at both the front and rear of his house (mansion) he owns the land but lives in the house and the caravan.
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Keith Richards is the patron saint of the IL forum.
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Brian Jones Is "The Man" Though...!!!
Wasn't It George Harrison That Did This Self Destruct Film...???
The 27 Club...!!!
Me And My Freind Desecrated His Grave One Night In Cheltenham,
Because We Wanted To Wear The Psycheledic Suit He Was Buried In...
By Desecrated I Mean We Sat On It And Got Wrecked...!!!
This Reminds Me Of The Songs We Sing In Avebury...!!!
Wasn't It George Harrison That Did This Self Destruct Film...???
The 27 Club...!!!
Me And My Freind Desecrated His Grave One Night In Cheltenham,
Because We Wanted To Wear The Psycheledic Suit He Was Buried In...
By Desecrated I Mean We Sat On It And Got Wrecked...!!!
This Reminds Me Of The Songs We Sing In Avebury...!!!
Re: And rember folks Ickes not a racist
Droike wrote:Nhar we just laigh at Hoax nuts, its not like it invoves the sytematic killing of millions of people is it? Not quite in the same league as holocaust denial. However Handbag i reckon if you saw a shrink and told him about all you belifes he would proberbly section you. Telling him you were contomplating attacking the queen with blood so she would shape shift into a space lizard would get you a long way there on its own.
David Irving moaning about freedom of speach now thats too fucking rich. What did he think of Lucy Dawidowicz's freedom of speach when he tried to sue her and get her book banned. Seems to me David Irving thinks its one rule for him and another for Lucy Dawidowicz.
Nick Griffin needs a patch over his mouth. What these people say in public is not what they say in private. Remeber when BNP meetings were secretly taped and shown on TV? BNP is designed to be a front which is more palatable to voters but in secret behined closed doors its still the same old National front. They still use threats and beatings to keep people in line.
All i can say to you Tiswas is god help the Asian woman who surported Nick Griffin if the BMP ever get in power. She wont be living in Britan for long after that. You see she has been suckered by this new face of the far right wing. Nick Griffin himself has been recored saying say what they want to hear to get in power then impliment our real agenda.
I've always said that the BNP are one side of a Problem-Reaction-Solution/Divide-and-Rule scam. As for Griffin being caught on camera: it was ironic that the BBC has banned him from saying the very things he was secretly seen filming. Remember Griffin went to Trinity College Cambridge, a place with a long history of links to the secret services; it could be that he's been recruited to play the role he currently does.
You're position is odd considering you've spent years talking about Apollohoax researchers as if they are the Antichrist! And no, the faking of the moon missions is in the same league to the sytematic killing of millions of people. All these things are linked and nothing is independent in the greater scheme of things.
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Droike wrote:
Sorry mate but Icke is a supporter of David Duke, rainbow ark and the spotlight lol. His own words say it.
What words? Have you got a source?
If you actually did read some of Ickes shit you would know that he says the protocols are genuine when in fact they have been shown to be fake.
I've written about the Protocols myself. Yes, in the form we know them they are fake, but I think the fake edition was transcribed from a genuine document. One thing that's interesting about the Protocols is that for a Jewish document it contains no reference to Jews or Judaism except for the word "Jew" . There is no mention of Jewish rites, traditions, holy places or holidays etc. Take away the word "Jew" and replace it with something else and what will it sound like? Well, I decided to do an experiment : I changed the words “Jews” and “Zion” into “The Olympians” (The Illuminati probably don’t call themselves "the Illuminati"; “Olympians” is one of the words it’s been suggested is their real name). I then changed the words “Goyim” into “Sheeple” (This is just a guess, the Illuminati probably have some other derogatory word for we, the profane masses). The results were amazing! With just a bit of find-and-replace editing on Microsoft Word, the document had totally lost its Jewish flavour . This raises the question of whether the original Illuminati document ever had such a flavour; or did Goedsche, Joly and Nilus, the people who brought us the Protocols in the form we know them, simply do the opposite of what I had done? Maybe they took the real document they had accessed and turned "Olympians" into "Jews" and "Sheeple" into "Goyim" to falsely-vindicate their own bigotry.
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Hagbard Celine wrote:David supported the campaign to get David Duke released from jail for Holocaust Denial. This doesn't make David a supporter or Duke, the KKK or any of its policies. I supported thew campaign too. I'm not a racist or Jew-hater and I'm totally opposed to the KKK. The point was that the crime of Holocaust Denial exists in the first place. We're heading for tyranny when somebody can be jailed for speaking an opinion, no matter how repulsive you find it. Remember that the Nazis and Soviet regimes both used the criminalization of free speech as ways of supressing dissent.
I've never heard of Rainbow Ark. Is it like the BNP or NF etc? If it is then I'd be against it, but still counter any moves by the so-called "antifascists" to gag them.
Well said Ben.
I've been trying to get this info into Drip
Dicks head for ages.
It's all about freedom of speech
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Sources to Icke's association and liking for far right groups and publications you want. Well OK here's a few, I'm sure you could find more if you wanted to.
Matthew Kalman and John Murray, editors of Open Eye magazine, investigated Icke. They observed him meeting with U.S. militia group representatives. They also identified his association with the magazine Rainbow Ark, which features articles attacking Jewish bankers and Zionism, and is funded by members of the far right movement.
The bibliography in "and the truth will set you free" lists a number of right wing journals, such as Spotlight, which Icke calls "excellent" and On Target.
When Icke spoke atat Leighton Park School, Reading, he was aske if he deies the Hollocust twice. Both times he refused to answer. He either does or he dosent. If he dosent why would he be afarid to answer the question?
Matthew Kalman and John Murray, editors of Open Eye magazine, investigated Icke. They observed him meeting with U.S. militia group representatives. They also identified his association with the magazine Rainbow Ark, which features articles attacking Jewish bankers and Zionism, and is funded by members of the far right movement.
The bibliography in "and the truth will set you free" lists a number of right wing journals, such as Spotlight, which Icke calls "excellent" and On Target.
When Icke spoke atat Leighton Park School, Reading, he was aske if he deies the Hollocust twice. Both times he refused to answer. He either does or he dosent. If he dosent why would he be afarid to answer the question?
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I do not worship the man OK, Ickebloke is known because he was a BBc presenter, nothing more and nothing less.
But why does not the DIF place ever delete the number of posters banned from its forum? Oh it is to Sex up the numbers.
But why does not the DIF place ever delete the number of posters banned from its forum? Oh it is to Sex up the numbers.
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