When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site?

true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:12 am

When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site?

Oh that's right, when I came and reported what 'his' Star Poster, 'tintin',
really believes and gets up to, in trying to force others to buy into it.

true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:14 am

true lilly wrote:When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site?

Oh that's right, when I came and reported what 'his' Star Poster, 'tintin',
really believes and gets up to, in trying to force others to buy into it.

Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?
Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!

Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.

Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing in May.

It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
he was ready to step aside today in the face of the government's attitude.

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CAUGHT OUT: The Greens' Sarah Hanson-Young's collusion
with the Commonwealth Ombudsman to script some questions
for the statutory officer to answer at a Senate Estimates Committee
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It said Mr Asher will talk to his staff today before making a statement.

mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:25 am

Yo!!!!! suzi, you have the exact same character as Icke and Tinnytintin, you are all Anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, Anti-Torah, Anti-Messiah Bullshit Artists................ thumbs up

WHAT contradictions are those suzi?

Like when you claim to 'go toe to toe' with your forum colleagues and instead you run like a coward and refuse to face Historical FACTS?

Like that?

Or you claim not to be Anti-Semitic yet you twist/misinterpret the Jewish Hebrew scriptures, then you claim YHWH, Blessed be His Name, is a liar and has broken His Eternal Covenant with the Jews and the Land of Israel and transferred it to pagans such as yourself and Australia?

Smoke another one you dingbat. thumbs up

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mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:02 pm

Ciggy wrote:Raw data you have by the ton. Intelligence and knowledge are what you lack. You still think Jesus is magic, when even a Jewish Princess like Sarah Silverman can see is laughable.

Yeshuah is the yod he shin vav he. The shin within the YHVH. The insertion of Spirit into the 4-element material world. It's a qabbalic expression, a metaphor, and you think it's literal.

smoke another one ziggy, I've Posted a whole Thread on the Kabbalah, you must of missed it.......and NO.cigtard, I don't think 'Jesus' is 'magick'......He was employing Science and Physics beyond our understanding..as a matter of FACT I queried all the Pagans/Heathens at DIFtardia if they understood the DIFFERENCe between magick and the Miracles of Yahshua............without a nanoparticle of Doubt, Yahshua was teaching, embodying the Torah/Instruction of YHWH, all 4 levels...... thumbs up

And.for the Record, any so called 'kabbalah' that is not Torah Based is Bullshit Kabbalah.......quite popular amongst the moral relativist Pagans............. thumbs up

Levels 1-4.... thumbs up

and so was Paul...................IQ=180 +

I also provided a Thread of the Torahs Message/Meme, providing an opportunity to be honest..............you 'passed'. thumbs up

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The Hebrew Letters
Shin: The Eternal Flame
The letter shin appears engraved on both sides of the head- tefilin. On the right side, the shin possesses three heads, while on the left side it possesses four heads. In Kabbalah we are taught that the three-headed shin is the shin of this world while the four- headed shin is the shin of the World to Come.

The secret of the shin is "the flame [Divine Revelation] bound to the coal [Divine Essence]." A simmering coal actually possesses an invisible flame within it, which emerges and ascends from the surface of the coal when the coal is blown upon. The three levels: coal, inner flame, and outer flame, correspond to the secret of chash-mal-mal, as will be explained in the next letter, the tav.

One of the meanings of the word shin in Hebrew is shinui, "change." The coal symbolizes changeless essence, the secret of the verse: "I am God, I have not changed," meaning that relative to God's Essence absolutely no change has occurred from before Creation to after Creation. The inner flame is the paradoxical latent presence of the power of change within the changeless. The outer flame of the shin is continuously in a state of motion and change.

As in the above-quoted verse, the changeless Essence is the secret of the Name Havayah. The power of change, as latently present within God’s Essence before Creation and thereafter revealed in the infinite intricacy and beauty of an ever-dancing flame, is the secret of the explicit Name of Creation, Elokim, the only Name of God which appears in the plural. The number of the letter shin, 300, unites these two Divine Names as the "flame bound to the coal." In at'bash, the Name Havayah transforms to the letters mem-tzadik-pei-tzadik, which total 300. The five letters of Elokim (alef-lamed-hei-yud-mem) when written in full, also equal 300.

The three heads of the shin of this world correspond to the three levels of the changeless, potential, and actual change as discussed above. In this world, the changeless is symbolized only by a black, dark coal, not as the revealed light of the flame. Nonetheless the endurance of the flame depends upon the changeless essence of the coal. In the World to Come, the changeless essence will reveal itself within the flame. This revelation of the future is the secret of the fourth head of the shin.

In the flame of a candle one sees three levels of light: the "dark light" around the wick of the candle, the white flame encompassing it, and an amorphous aura around the white flame itself. Each of these three levels of revealed light manifests a dimension contained within the invisible flame present in the coal. In general the flame symbolizes love, as is said: "as mighty as death is love...the flame of God." The dark light corresponds to the love of Israel, souls enclothed within physical bodies. The white light corresponds to the love of Torah. The aura corresponds to the love of God. These are the three essential manifestations of love as taught by the Ba'al Shem Tov. The fourth head of the shin of the future - the revelation of the essence of the coal itself - corresponds to the love of the Land of Israel and, as our Sages teach: "the Land of Israel will in the future spread to incorporate all the lands of the earth."

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FORM

Three vavs, each with a yud on top, rise from a common base- point.
Symbol of symmetry; Form of a flame.

Worlds:

•Stability and harmony in nature.
•Positive and negative grace; Symmetry groups.
Souls:

•Finding grace in the eyes of God.
•The grace of the Jewish people in each other's eyes.
•The 3 vavs represent the three Patriarchs; the 4 vavs, the Matriarchs.
•The 3 vavs represent "Kohanim," "Levites," "Israelites"; the fourth, righteous converts.
•"No lie can endure if not based on truth."
Divinity:

•Divine Perfection and Grace; The three lines, or pillars, of the sefirot.
•The "army of God"; The shin of the tefilin.
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NAME

A year; change; a tooth; scarlet; serenity; to sleep; to teach; two; sharp; old; viceroy.

Worlds:

•Natural changes in the yearly cycle.
•Tooth - power of decomposition and entropy.
•The fiery scarlet of the priestly garments.
•"I am asleep..." "in exile"; Aging.
Souls:

•The fire of Torah; Sharpness in learning.
•The second to the King; The double Shabbat loaves.
•The Mishnah; "...yet my heart is awake."
Divinity:

•The "immovable power" that causes all motion.
•"I am God, I have not changed."
•Peace and serenity; The "shin" of the mezuzah.
•The accelerated change of the future toward the changeless.

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NUMBER

Three hundred

Worlds:

•Three hundred foxes sent to burn down the fields of the Philistines.
•Three hundred arrows pierced King Yoshiyahu.
•Three hundred years Israel worshipped idolatry in the days of the Judges.
Souls:

•Three hundred fox-parables of Rabbi Meir.
•Three thousand parables of King Solomon.
•Three hundred firstborn Levites; Three hundred soldiers of Gideon.
Divinity:

•Three hundred halachot concerning "a mighty bright spot."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "you shall not let a sorceress live."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "the tower soaring in air."
•Three hundred halachot concerning "and the name of his wife was Meheitavel."
•"Is not my word like fire and like a hammer that breaks rock into pieces?"
•"The spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters."
•The full spelling of the Name Elokim (and the Name Havayah in at'bash).

The Hebrew Letters
Alef: The Paradox of God and Man

The alef is formed by two yuds, one to the upper right and the other to the lower left, joined by a diagonal vav. These represent the higher and lower waters and the firmament between them, as taught by the Ari z"l ("Rabbi Isaac Luria of blessed memory," who received and revealed new insights into the ancient wisdom of Kabbalah)

Water is first mentioned in the Torah in the account of the first day of Creation: "And the spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water." At this time the higher and the lower waters were indistinguishable; their state is referred to as "water in water." On the second day of Creation God separated the two waters by "stretching" the firmament between them.

In the service of the soul, as taught in Chassidut, the higher water is water of joy, the experience of being close to God, while the lower water is water of bitterness, the experience of being far from God.

In Jewish philosophy, the two intrinsic properties of water are "wet" and "cold." The higher water is "wet" with the feeling of oneness with the "exaltation of God," while the lower water is "cold" with the feeling of separation, the frustration of experiencing the inherent "lowliness of man." Divine service, as taught by Chassidut, emphasizes that in fact the primary consciousness of both waters is the sense of the Divine, each from its own perspective: from the perspective of the higher water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the oneness of all in His Absolute Being; from the perspective of the lower water, the greater the "exaltation of God," the greater the existential gap between the reality of God and that of man, thus the inherent "lowliness of man."

The Talmud tells of four sages who entered the "Pardes," the mystical orchard of spiritual elevation reached only through intense meditation and Kabbalistic contemplations. The greatest of the four, Rabbi Akiva, said to the others before entering, "When you come to the place of pure marble stone, do not say 'water-water,' for it is said, 'He who speaks lies shall not stand before my eyes.'" The Ari z"l explains that the place of "pure marble stone" is where the higher and the lower waters unite. Here one must not call out 'water-water,' as if to divide the higher and lower waters. "The place of pure marble stone" is the place of truth--the Divine power to bear two opposites simultaneously; in the words of Rabbi Shalom ben Adret: "the paradox of paradoxes." Here "the exaltation of God" and His "closeness" to man unite with the "lowliness of man" and his "distance" from God.

The Torah begins with the letter beit: "Bereishit (In the beginning) God created the heavens and the earth." The Ten Commandments, the Divine revelation to the Jewish People at Sinai, begin with the letter alef: "Anochi [I] am God your God who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." The Midrash states that "higher reality" had been set apart from "lower reality," for God had decreed that neither higher reality descend nor lower reality ascend. In giving the Torah, God annulled His decree, He Himself being the first to descend, as it is written: "And God came down on Mount Sinai". Lower reality, in turn, ascended: "And Moses approached the cloud...." The union of "higher reality," the upper yud, with the "lower reality," the lower yud, by means of the connecting vav of Torah, is the ultimate secret of the letter alef.

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FORM

A yud above and a yud below with a vav separating and uniting them simultaneously. The secret of the image in which man was created.

Worlds:

•The upper and lower waters with the firmament between them.

•In the world:

◦The upper atmosphere, the lower atmosphere, the ocean & water table.

◦Energy waves, the atmosphere, the hydrological cycle.

•In the human body:

◦The respiratory system, the diaphragm, the digestive system .

◦The skull-water, the membrane, the brain-moisture.

Souls:

•Feeling both close to God and distant from Him with commitment to Torah and mitzvot balancing these emotions.

•"Crying is enwedged in my heart on one side, while joy is enwedged in my heart on the other side."
Divinity:

•Transcendent and Immanent Light with the contraction (tzimtzum) and impression (reshimu) between them.

•Man in perfect unity with the Infinite Will of God.

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NAME

Oxen; thousand; teaching; master.

Worlds:

•Oxen--gross physical reality, the lower animal soul.

•Thousand--multiplicity in Creation, the "thousand mountains grazed by the ox."

•The yoke of the ox yielding a thousandfold and returning to unity.

Souls:

•"I will teach you wisdom"; the root of the soul is derived from the wisdom of God.

•Direct insight of Divine truth; to be nothing.

Divinity:

•"Master of the universe."

•The Divine "One" revealing itself throughout the plurality of Creation.

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NUMBER

One

Worlds:

•First of all countable numbers.

•The beginning of process in nature and sequence of worldly events.

•One counts "something from something."

Souls:

•"One nation in the land."

•The organic unity of all Jewish souls.

•One counts "something from nothing."

Divinity:

•"God is One": the absolute unity of God.

•"There is none other besides Him:" "One, single, and unique."

•One counts "nothing from something

Did you notice the Aleph is 2 yods and an Vav? thumbs up

The Hebrew Letters
Yud: The Infinite Point
The letter yud, a small suspended point, reveals the spark of essential good hidden within the letter tet. Subsequent to the initial tzimtzum, the contraction of G-d's Infinite light in order to make "place" for Creation, there remained within the empty void a single, potential point or "impression." The secret of this point is the power of the Infinite to contain finite phenomena within Himself and express them to apparent external reality. Finite manifestation begins from a zero-dimensional point, thereafter developing into a one-dimensional line and two-dimensional surface. This is alluded to in the full spelling of the letter yud (yud-vav-dalet): "point" (yud), "line" (vav), "surface" (dalet). These three stages correspond in Kabbalah to: "point" (nekudah), "spectrum" (sefirah), "figure" (partzuf). The initial point, the essential power of the yud, is the "little that holds much." The "much" refers to the simple Infinity of G-d hidden within the initial point of revelation, which reflects itself as the Infinite potential of the point to develop and express itself in all the manifold finite phenomena of time and space.

Before the tzimtzum, the power of limitation was hidden, latent within G-d's Infinite Essence. Following the tzimtzum, this power of limitation became revealed, and paradoxically the Infinite Essence of G-d that originally "hid" the power of limitation now Itself became hidden (not in truth, but only from our limited human perspective) within the point of contracted light.

From within this point of limitation is revealed the secret of the ten sefirot, the Divine channels of light through which G-d continually brings His world into being. Ten, the numerical value of the yud, is also the number of commandments (literally "statements") revealed by G-d to His People Israel at Sinai. All the commandments, and in fact every letter of Torah, possess the power of the "little that holds much"; each is a channel for the revelation of G-d's Infinite Light in finite reality.

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FORM

A "formed" point: a crown above and a "pathway" below.
The smallest of the letters; The only letter suspended in midair.

Worlds:

•The "pathway" of the yud; The initial point of space and time.
•Natural wisdom: "The wisdom of Solomon."
•Direction and purpose: the consciousness of the present moment.
Souls:

•The "body" of the yud; The enwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" as manifest in the judgment of Solomon.
•The power of self-nullification.
Divinity:

•The crown of the yud above; The unenwedged point.
•"The wisdom of G-d" inspiring and directing Solomon's genius.
•Revealed Omnipresence; The beginning and end of every letter (form).

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Hand; to thrust.

Worlds:

•The secret of space; To thrust - the principle of action and reaction.
•The wave-nature of radiation.
Souls:

•Intelligence; Friendship.
•To acknowledge - to make space for others; Empathy
Divinity:

•G-d's "hand" - the Infinite Will and ability to sustain the Creation.
•Charity, physical and spiritual.
•"Shaking G-d's Hand": identifying with archetypal souls and Temple service.
•G-d's thought - the origin of the Jewish soul.

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NUMBER

Ten; "The tenth shall be holy"; the decimal nature of reality.

Worlds:

•Ten Divine utterances through which the world was created.
•Ten things created on the first day.
•Ten things created at dusk at the end of the first Friday.
•Ten generations from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham.
•Ten kings ruled the whole world; Ten nations given to Abraham.
•Ten pure animals; Ten categories of forbidden magic.
•Ten battles of Joshua; Ten essential limbs of the body.
Souls:

•The sefirot - Spiritual Powers; Ten categories of the souls of Israel.
•Ten trials of Abraham; A minyan of ten men.
•Ten synonyms for prayer; Ten synonyms for song.
•Ten cardinal songs sung throughout history.
•Ten martyrs of Israel; Ten spiritual functions of the heart.
Divinity:

•Ten Commandments; Ten plagues.
•Ten miracles in the Holy Temple; Ten days of repentance.
•Yom Kippur--the tenth day; The Divine Name ten times on Yom Kippur.
•Ten names of Ruach HaKodesh; Ten are called "the man of G-d."
•Ten verses of Kingdom, Remembrance and Shofar-blast.
•Ten synonyms for teshuvah.

The Hebrew Letters
Vav: Connection
In the beginning of Creation, when Infinite Light filled all reality, G d contracted His Light to create hollow empty space, as it were, the "place" necessary for the existence of finite worlds. Into this vacuum God drew down, figuratively speaking, a single line of light, from the Infinite Source. This ray of light is the secret of the letter vav. Though the line is singular in appearance, it nonetheless possesses two dimensions, an external as well as an internal force, both of which take part in the process of Creation and the continuous interaction between the creative power and created reality.

The external force of the line is the power to differentiate and separate the various aspects of reality, thereby establishing hierarchical order, up and down, within Creation. The internal force of the line is the power to reveal the inherent interinclusion of the various aspects of reality, one in the other, thereby joining them together as an organic whole. This property of the letter vav, in its usage in Hebrew, is referred to as vav hachibur, the vav of connection"--"and." The first vav of the Torah--"In the beginning G d created the heavens and [vav] the earth"--serves to join spirit and matter, heaven and the earth, throughout Creation. This vav, which appears at the beginning of the sixth word of the Torah, is the twenty-second letter of the verse. It alludes to the power to connect and interrelate all twenty-two individual powers of Creation, the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet from alef to tav. (The word et [which appears before the two instances of the word "the" in this verse, and is spelled alef-tav] is generally taken to represent all the letters of the alphabet, from alef to tav. Our Sages interpret the word in this verse to include all the various objects of Creation present within heaven and earth.)

In Biblical Hebrew, the letter vav also possesses the function of inverting the apparent tense of a verb to its opposite from past to future or from future to past (vav hahipuch). The first appearance of this type of vav in the Torah is the letter vav" which begins the twenty-second word of the account of Creation, "And God said...." This is the first explicit saying of the ten sayings of Creation: "And G d said [the verb 'said' being inverted from the future to the past tense by the vav at the beginning of the word--'And']: 'Let there be light,' and there was light." The phenomenon of light breaking through the darkness of the tzimtzum, the primordial contraction, is itself the secret of time (future becoming past) which permeates space.

In the Divine service of a Jew, the power to draw from the future into the past is the secret of teshuvah ("repentance" and "returning to God") from love. Through teshuvah from fear, one's deliberate transgressions become like errors; the severity of one's past transgressions becomes partially sweetened, but not completely changed. However, when a Jew returns in love, his deliberate transgressions become like actual merits, for the very consciousness of distance from God resulting from one's transgressions becomes the motivating force to return to God with passion even greater than that of one who had never sinned.

Every Jew has a portion in the World to Come, as is said: "And all your nation are 'tzadikim'; forever they will inherit the land." The power of teshuvah to completely convert one's past to good, is the power of the vav to invert the past to the future. This transformation itself requires, paradoxically, the drawing down of light from the future to the past.

Drawing the future into the past in the Divine service of man is the secret of learning the inner teachings of the Torah, that aspect of the Torah which is related to the revelation of the coming of the Mashiach. Rashi explains the verse in the Song of Songs: "May he kiss me with the kisses of his mouth, for your love is better than wine" as alluding to the sweet teachings that will be revealed by the Mashiach. When a person intently studies the secrets of the Torah, he draws from the future into the past, in order to strengthen himself to return in complete teshuvah from love and thereby convert his past into future.

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FORM

A vertical line.
A pillar.
A man standing upright.

Worlds:

•Twelve pillars of Creation - the twelve lines of a cube. The twelve tribes.
•Seven pillars of Creation - six directions and time. The seven shepherds.
•One pillar of Creation the future. Mashiach.
•The connecting rods in the Tabernacle.
Souls:

•Complete stature of man - standing on earth with head reaching up towards heaven.
•The Jewish People standing together.
•The "Golden Path" in the service of God.
•The torso in relation to the hands, feet, and brit.
Divinity:

•The pillar of Truth.
•Consistency of the middle pillar.
•Divinity piercing through the middle point of every Creation.
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NAME

A Hook

Worlds:

•The connecting hooks of the pillars in the Tabernacle - concealment and revelation.
•The axis of symmetry and the equilibrium between symmetry and asymmetry.
Souls:

•The power which links together the souls of Israel.
•The points of will to do God's Will engraved in the heart of every Jew.
•The axis which connects the good points present within every Jew.
Divinity:

•The connecting link between the separate Laws - engraved letters of Divine essence - of the Torah.
•The force of connection between the Divine sparks inherent throughout reality.
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NUMBER

Six

Worlds:

•Six Days of Creation, and their six corresponding Divine forces active in creation.
•Six letters of the word bereishit, "In the beginning."
•Six alefs in the first verse of the Torah.
•Six-millennium duration of the world.
•Six directions of the physical world.
Souls:

•Six wings (states of love and fear in the soul) of the fiery angels.
•"Give truth to Jacob."
Divinity:

•Six orders of the Mishnah.
•The six "wings" of the "Magen David."
•Six cubits - the dimensions of the Tablets received by Moses at Mt. Sinai.

ciggy, for 5 years I haver Posted the 'nuts & bolts' of this most remarkable Book, it is you who is shallow, superficial, meanspirited and a bullshit artist.

Given an opportunity to be honest, you passed. thumbs up

You didn't have enough nutsack to engage the Jewish/Biblical Meme....................In contrast: I have Balls that Klangggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why you don't like me..I treated you like the bullshit punk that you are...............cease being a bullshit pansy assed punk and I'll treat you like a man...............'k? thumbs up

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mugglez Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:08 pm

el kabong wrote:This is Why certain people want to kill the Jews, all of them. If they can't kill them they lie about them and misrepresent their Book and Teachings to incite hatred. Hatred grounded in Ignorance. They want to suppress, eradicate the teachings of the Bible, All Humans created in the Image of God, and a repaired/restored World.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.

* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

All at Mt. Sinai

1: Monotheism

2:Universal Codified Law

3: An Aleph/Bet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather then Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather then the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less then thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancin Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen peeps TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Aleph/Bet-Alpha/Bet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hierglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualising Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather then the people choosing their god.

From Rabbi Greenbergs book, 'For the Sake of Heaven & Earth.
Jews and Xns are redicovering 'The Image of Yah' in each other, after a coupla millenia of discord and animus.

This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10

The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.

Peace between Humans.
Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Another opportunity to be HONEST.............caN YOU DO IT SUZI?

true lilly Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:46 pm

le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'...and thanks to all who rejected God's
WARNING WORD, that described the times
and locations to watch for, 'They' nearly do...
AFTER WRECKING MOST OF THE WORLD,
as 'They' have been doing, through the GREENIE LIES
of 'Their' 'secular'/SATANIC propaganda.

DANIEL 11:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Dan&c=11&t=KJV#40
40;
And at the time ⁶²⁵⁶ of the end ⁷⁰⁹³
shall the king ⁴⁴²⁸ of the south ⁵⁰⁴⁵ push ⁵⁰⁵⁵ at him:
and the king ⁴⁴²⁸ of the north ⁶⁸²⁸
shall come against him like a whirlwind ⁸¹⁷⁵ ,
with chariots ⁷³⁹³, and with horsemen ⁶⁵⁷¹,
and with many ⁷²²⁷ ships ⁵⁹¹;
and he shall enter ⁹³⁵ into the countries ⁷⁷⁶,
and shall overflow ⁷⁸⁵⁷ and pass over ⁵⁶⁷⁴ .

45;
And he shall plant ⁵¹⁹³ the tabernacles ¹⁶⁸
of his palace ⁶⁴³ between the seas ³²²⁰
in the glorious ⁶⁶⁴³ holy ⁶⁹⁴⁴ mountain ²⁰²²;
yet he shall come ⁹³⁵ to his end ⁷⁰⁹³,
and none shall help ⁵⁸²⁶ him.

...and this still isn't it, but it isn't unrelated...
Oh dear, - Jane, Liverpool, UK, 19/10/2011 16:13,
Queen Elizabeth is our Monarch,
and Australia, with it's tiny 21+ million population,
can afford to offer to help your precious EU countries
out of their financial mess.

We are not a 'Banana Republic' because we are not a republic.

And something for all Australian's to consider:

how do you think an elected head of state of a country
this rich in natural resources, this large in area, and this tiny in population,
could prevent all those militarily powerful, population rich
but resource poor nations, from raiding us blind,
without Our Royal Family, watching over us?

- Lilly, Ballarat, Australia, 20/10/2011 3:06

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Her Majesty the Queen's Personal Flag for Australia
-
Since the 1964 Royal Visit of Australia, HM Queen Elizabeth II
has used in Australia a distinctive personal flag,
rather than the Royal Standard
used when she is in the United Kingdom.
The flag is a banner of the Australian Coat of Arms
with a badge consisting of the Commonwealth Star
upon which is the Queen's Royal badge
showing her initial surmounted by a crown
and surrounded by a garland of roses and wattle.
Note that the Western Australian swan
faces away from the hoist,
the same as in the Coat of Arms.
The correct proportions are 22 x 31, not
the 1 x 2 proportions
that are used for other British Royal Standards.

true lilly wrote:Should Julia Gillard have curtsied to the Queen?

Yes70.97% (1719 votes)
No 29.03% (703 votes)

Total votes: 2422

Should Australia abandon the monarchy and become a republic?

Yes 36.7% (1042 votes)
No 63.3% (1797 votes)

Total votes: 2839

true lilly wrote:Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.
true lilly wrote:Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
Why are 'you' denying sizing THIS Headline, as
THE VERY IMPORTANT Headline it is?
Oh, the subject explains it.
'You' and 'your' fellow TRAITORS ARE BUSTED in it!

Commonwealth Ombudsman to resign
From: AAP
October 20, 2011 12:54AM

COMMONWEALTH Ombudsman Allan Asher
is set to announce his resignation after admitting
he wrote questions for a Greens senator
to ask him in a Senate committee hearing.

Fairfax reports the Gillard government has made it clear it had
lost confidence in Mr Asher because he penned questions about
under-funding for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young
to ask him in a senate committee hearing in May.

It said Mr Asher has met with Special Minister of State Gary Gray
to discuss his conduct where it was obvious relations between him
and the government were beyond repair.

On Monday, Mr Asher apologised to a Senate estimates committee for his
behaviour at an earlier hearing, saying it had been mistaken and he was
deeply sorry.

The paper said that while it would take a parliamentary vote to dismiss Mr Asher,
he was ready to step aside today in the face of the government's attitude.

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_________________________________________________________
Oh and thanks, for outing so many of 'your' Co-Colluders.

...but I will add:
during his 3 weeks here, touring
This Glorious Land every day of those 3 weeks,
Evil or Very Mad

'TINTIN' SPAT VENOM at Evil or Very Mad

EVERY MEMORIAL TO OUR SOLDIERS,
Who FOUGHT, DIED
and WERE TORTURED as P.O.W.'s!

Yes, 'TINTIN', who RAILED AT ME,
in defence of HIS DUTCH QUEEN BEE-TRIX,
"SHE'S STILL MY QUEEN!"
"SHE IS STILL MY QUEEN!"
(Beatrix of The Netherlands),
was the First of MANY Angry rants
I received from one unstable 'poster'
(who's actual position is WAY 'above' that),
who would swing from declarations
of love, and admiration for my 'genius',
to LOUD SHOUTS of "TRAITOR", "JEW",
and then have those abuses instantly
FORGIVEN and Forgotten on claiming
to be DRUNK...AND gain More "FANS"
for those ('drunk' with), hate filled attacks.

Well, again I have to remind readers that
IT WAS FARADAY who POSTED, that TNBTN
thread doesn't 'break' CODES but USES CODE
to ORDER ATTACKS...then he also promptly,
turned on and attacked me, when I failed to
RUN Screaming In Fear of the Obvious Threats
(many of which have been carried out), still there,
PRECEDING and clearly referring to NAMES, and
ACTIONS they carried out, for any who know what
DOES goes on here, to see for themselves.

Well with that in mind, and KNOWING I Post
what God said, That THE KING of The NORTH
WILL FAIL in his Final Push at AUSTRALIA,
The Glorious Promised Land, consider what IS
CODED in this post:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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KARST dead 1 MAY

HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.

Oh, there are more 'personal' details, in the full post below, but
as they are DESIGNED to HIDE the real intent in DEAFENING"Noise",
I thought I'd give you UNinvolved, innocent readers, a hand in
recognising, WHY 'they' also put so much effort into off topic post
demanding you all believe I'm 'paranoid'...ha, I WISH I WERE,
it would sure HURT LESS than SMASHED, BROKEN BONES and
The HORROR of SEEING My DAUGHTER'S CAR BLOWN UP outside
HER BEDROOM WINDOW, and other such, 'bothers' that CARING
To FREELY PUBLISH GOD'S LOVING WORD, EARNS me FROM 'them'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintin
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DOG and ALBANIA

WAG the DOG is about creating a WAR with ALBANIA.
The SPIN DOCTORS need to distract the electorate from
a presidential SEX SCANDAL and construct a fake war with ALBANIA.

DOGS BARK

DOGS
BARKING
ALBANIA

ALBEN BARKLEY

You have WAG THE DOG combined in this BARKING ALBEN.
Vice president under TRUMAN.

That TIME cover was on 28 JULY 1952.

I have just linked COMEDIAN WILL ROGERS
to commander WILL ROGERS of the USS VINCENNES
and also of the USS CUSHING.

Will Rogers born on
the DogIron Ranch

Tha's DOG and IRAN.
The real WAG the DOG story is the WAR WITH IRAN.
All WARS are WAG the DOG stories.
They are all fake...

ALBANIA and TIRANA.
IRAN and TEHRAN.

VANN and AMERICA were the parents of WILL ROGERS.
VANCOUVER and VANN.

WILL ROGERS and his MOTHER was AMERICA.
The MOTHER road or Main street of AMERICA. WILL ROGERS HIGHWAY.

WILL ROGERS, born on 4 NOVEMBER.

WHITE HOUSE

Will Rogers. Here his full name

WHITE HOUSE at PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
PENNSYLVANIA named after WILLIAM PENN.
WILLIAM PENN ROGERS.

WILLIAM PENN was born same date as EISENHOWER.
EISEN is IRON in german and WILL ROGERS was born
in "THE WHITE HOUSE" on the DOG IRON ranch....

Now to ADAIR.....
RED ADAIR was a legendary OIL WELL firefighter.

RED ADAIR

This is the wiki pic. Why this horrible pic?
it leads to WILLIAM BARKER CUSHING.

The night of OCTOBER 27 and 28. The RAID on the ALBEMARLE.

ADAIR
RAID

RED ADAIR and OIL WELLS that are BURNING....
We have seen that in the IRAQ wars and in KUWAIT....

Red Adair dead on
birthday MATA HARI

He died 7 AUGUST 2004.

RONALD REAGAN as the crucial link that combines all.

That highschool was NOT named after RONALD REAGAN but
after JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN.
School in HOUSTON and HOUSTON was incorporated
on the date RONALD REAGAN died. 5 JUNE.

This JOHN H. REAGAN died on 6 MARCH.
Birthday KARST TATES, thec attacker of the DUTCH ROYALS.
ALBEN BARKLEY died 30 APRIL, day of the ATTACK.

John HENNINGER Reagan

HENNINGER leads to FRANKFURT Germany.

HENNINGER Tower Frankfurt

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN died on the birthday of KARST TATES.

KARST dead 1 MAY
HENNINGER REAGAN dead on 6 MARCH, birhday KARST TATES
and KARST died on 1 MAY, the date of the HENNINGER race.

KARST TATES attacke the DUTCH ROYALS.
The CROWN is called KROON in dutch.
He attacked the DUTCH KROON.

KARST and KROON.

KARSTEN KROON wins
HENNINGER TURM
He won it TWICE. Last time was 2008. The year before
KARST attacked the KROON.

KARST and KROON in dutch is KARST-EN-KROON.

Here the list of the latest winners of the HENNINGER TURM.

JOHN HENNINGER REAGAN was a TEXAS Politician.
KARST TATES as TAXI driver Travis Bickle.....

ha, and funny thing here is, that when I was stranded,
alone, smashed up, on crutches at the police station
for hours, after leaving the hospital, it was "THE" Indian
TAXI DRIVER who was 'Bashed', who, REFUSED to take me
home because I didn't have enough money, THEN...not like
I could 'RUN away' and not pay a few days later, and 'they' all
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When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site? Rolleyes

in fact, 'they' wouldn't so much as call Victims of Crime or
The Salvos, to DO THEIR JOB and assist me, no I was finally
delivered to my house 'they' KNOW 'they' have the Keys to,
and dumped, alone, with no phone, computer, money, food
or friend to help my crippled body around a house still
trashed and covered in broken glass...and the 'message'
To You readers, is, 'if you don't want the same MIStreatment,
DON'T DARE share her Faith', but SERIOUSLY, who wants to
FOLLOW those so WEAK and LOW that even in such violent,
large and 'powerful' Gangs, CAN'T break the Faith of one,
little old woman, who ONLY When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site? Smile

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has God to lean on When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site? Biggrin

!

true lilly Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:19 am

What The HELL is "FOUNDATION"?
I really can't be bothered re-explaining what all this means,
but I'm sure readers who have followed the exchanges between me
and my attackers, like 'tintin' and 'David Icke's' 'australian' members,
will notice "FOUNDATION" has more in common with 'tintin/them'
than 'their' tired old tactic of DENYING ACCESS,
to INDEPENDENT THINKERS/RESEARCHERS who have NOT BEEN
BOUGHT OFF, TO PEDDLE MORE TRAITOROUS PROPAGANDA.

Outgoing SA Premier Mike Rann says others can judge
by:By Tim Dornin
From:AAP
October 20, 2011 2:21PM

OUTGOING South Australian Premier Mike Rann says it's up to others to judge him.

But the man often dubbed "media Mike" is not shy about listing his government's achievements since coming to office in 2002.

By any measure it's a reasonably impressive list.

In recent weeks the premier has signed-off on the banning of mining in the
environmentally-sensitive Arkaroola Sanctuary in the Flinders Ranges
and also the deal to have BHP Billiton spend $30 billion expanding the
Olympic Dam copper and uranium mine.

Over the past decade it has
also increased spending on health and education, opening new schools and
employing more doctors and nurses.

It has also built a desalination plant, started construction on a new central hospital and
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Mike Rann: The man who 'saved' Arkaroola Adelaide Now, 4 days ago

In defence, SA secured the contracts to build the Navy's next fleet of submarines and also the air warfare destroyers.

The Government has also championed renewable energy, with SA now generating
more than half the nation's wind power and becoming a leader in solar
power.

But there's been issues too.

Mr Rann has been forced to deny an affair with a former parliamentary waitress and
watched on as his deputy and long-serving treasurer Kevin Foley was twice assaulted.

A Labor MP was also charged with child pornography offences and was suspended
from the ALP while there have also been a simmering row with the union movement over cuts to public sector jobs and conditions.

That
row has characterised the sometimes wider criticism levelled at Mr Rann
and his government, that they don't always listen to the people or
properly consult before
finalising projects or policies.

In a balancing act, the wins probably outweigh the losses, but as Mr Rann suggests,
the final say will be up to others.

"Overall I think that one day people will probably say all of these things were
about a state that's more confident about itself, more outward looking,"
he says.

"That we're a destination again rather than a beloved home town that people
had to leave to find opportunities elsewhere."

More personally, Mr Rann says being the SA Premier has been the
"greatest privilege of my life".

"I wanted to leave the state in better shape than I found it, and I wanted
to leave the party in better shape than when I took over," he says.

"I think on both of those there's big tick."

Mr Rann is expected to officially stand down as premier tomorrow.

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Foundation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For the WikiMedia Foundation, see :Foundation:Home.

Foundation may refer to:...

...but NOT TO...

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Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

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...but ONLY "imagine" as,

and "FOUNDATION", are WELL PAID
to ENSLAVE OTHERS to PREVENT THAT!

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
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Now, lets look at those
"FOUNDATION" Associations:

Clemenger Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Clemenger Group Limited^[1]

is the holding company of a group of companies
involved in advertising
and marketing communications services
throughout Australia and New Zealand.

It is the largest communications group in Australia and New Zealand.
Clemenger Group Limited has about 1500 employees and
is headquartered in
Melbourne, Australia^[2].
53.33% of the shares are held by
Clemenger Communications staff
and 46.67% by BBDO Worldwide.
BBDO Worldwide is in turn
part of the Omnicom Group,
which the largest
communications group in the world.

(gee, I wonder where their 'staff'
have their Big Bickies INVESTED.
Maybe Old New AMSTERDAM/New York, New York)
When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site? Omnicom_Group_Logo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnicom_GroupHeadquarters
New York, New York, USA
Time Line:
2006 buys 50% shareholding in
180 Amsterdam and 180 LA

Oh here, Rolling Eyes

KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT affraid

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...and you still wonder why, with the Global CONspiracy Industry,
peddling the Global "Truther" Movement, into every big & little life,
all over the world, for decades, that things keep getting worse and
worse, and BANNING INDEPENDENT VOICES HAS BECOME THE NORM Rolling Eyes

mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:40 am

le sabrage wrote:
Yo!!!!! suzi, you have the exact same character as Icke and Tinnytintin, you are all Anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, Anti-Torah, Anti-Messiah Bullshit Artists................

WHAT contradictions are those suzi?

Like when you claim to 'go toe to toe' with your forum colleagues and instead you run like a coward and refuse to face Historical FACTS?

Like that?

Or you claim not to be Anti-Semitic yet you twist/misinterpret the Jewish Hebrew scriptures, then you claim YHWH, Blessed be His Name, is a liar and has broken His Eternal Covenant with the Jews and the Land of Israel and transferred it to pagans such as yourself and Australia?

Smoke another one you dingbat.

$When did this become an OVERTLY PRO-ICKE Site? Funny-pictures-cats-new-math$

mugglez Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:08 am

true lilly wrote:
le sabrage wrote:
May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.

SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'................... ..............................

er........suzi........................only the rankest moron(you) would have projected that reply to my Post.........well done....again. thumbs up

FYI...they are talking about Jerusalem, in Israel.....................what don't you understand about that?

Was YHWHS previous two Temples in Australia?

NO.

Israel is the Eternal Promised Land................NOT Australia......... thumbs up

Neither will be the Third, and when the New Jerusalem decends it will over the old Jerusalem in.................Israel, not Australia..............it is futile for you to twist and pervert the Scriptures of YHWH, the Prophets you quote, out of context, are YHWHs Prophets, they speak of Israel..........NOT Australia..................suzi/lily.....you remain p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c......Analysis of Daniel 11:2-35

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves." The vision in Daniel 11:2-35 is set in the third year of the Persian King Cyrus the Great (ca. 536 B.C.). The Greek conqueror Alexander the Great is briefly mentioned in Daniel 11:2 as a "warrior king," and the fourfold division of his empire is referred to in Daniel 11:3. Daniel 11:5-20 describes the wars between the Ptolemiac and Seleucid Empires. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to Antiochus Epiphanes, his rise to power, attacks on Egypt, and subsequent persecution of the Jews. The reader should particularly note the increased attention given to detail as the vision focuses on the second century B.C. and the tyranny of Antiochus. . thumbs up

http://www.bibleplus.org/prophecy/kings.html

Suzi, you remain a Bullshit Artist........... thumbs up

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves."

Some insightful Bible students noticed, the proof lies in the obvious identity that exists between Daniel's "the king of the north" in the last days and Ezekiel's "Gog" of the latter days. By comparing what is said about each of them in the two prophecies, it is manifest that they can only be different titles for the same being.

Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 = Daniel 11:45

Their geographical position is the same. "Gog's" country is in the north part in relation to the Holy Land; as it is written, "Thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts". "Gog" is therefore "the king of the north", his place or country being there.

Both of them are adversaries of Israel and invaders of the Holy Land. The eleventh chapter of Daniel abundantly proves this in relation to "the king of the north"; and of "Gog", Yahoueh said: "Thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land".
The time they invade the land is the same. "The king of the north" invades in the last days. Of "Gog" it is said: "It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land".
The same peoples are named as components of their armies. The Libyans and Ethiopians are allies with "the king of the north"; and in the enumeration of Gog's forces, it says, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them".
Who is "Gog"? Which land is the land of "Magog"?
Some people think that "Gog" is the Devil. But does the context support this idea? Ezekiel wrote that after "Gog's" last attack he will fall and then be buried by the people. (Ez.39:4,11) So there is no need to prove that "Gog" represents the Devil as we know that the devil does not have a body of flesh and bone and has no need for a grave. Thus, in actuality, whom does "Gog" symbolize?

"Gog" is the chief prince of Meschech and Tubal. Meshech, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2) is the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi people, inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs simply as a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendancy of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs and gave this name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East" (Easton's Bible Dictionary).

Many ancient sources have clearly identified "Magog" as referring to the "Scythians".
One of the earliest references to Magog was made by Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" who identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel.

Josephus Flavius clearly identified Magog. "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians". (Josephus, Antiquities, 1.123; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel 38:2)

The Greek historian Herodotus wrote that in the fifth century B.C. the Scythians ruled from the Don River, in present southern Russia, to the Carpathian Mountains in central Europe.

Philo, is another historian in the first century A.D. who identified "Magog" with southern Russia.

Ancient authorities clearly identified the Scythians as the ancestors of the present day Russians.

However, even without that information, the identity of "Magog" is not too difficult to figure out. In Ezekiel 38:15, it says: "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee". The "north parts" is literally the "extreme, or uttermost" parts of the north.

Who are "the kings of the north" and "south"? Who are the "kings" of this chapter?

Daniel 11:2
Since the Prophecy was given in the third year of Cyrus (Daniel 10:1), the three kings that were to "stand up yet", that is, "after him", were Cambyses II, Smerdis the Magian imposter, Darius I Hystaspes.

The fourth king, Xerxes I, stirred up Persia against Greece, which he invaded in 480 B.C. but failed to conquer. Since prophecy touches only upon important events and characters, the remaining kings of Persia are omitted, and the prophecy jumps over nearly 150 years to the time of Alexander the Great 336-323 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:3,4
"A valiant king", Alexander the Great, whose kingdom after his death was divided into four parts.
1) Seleucus I - who began the Seleucid (Syrian) empire, from Turkey to India.
2) Cassander - who took over Macedonia (Greece).
3) Lysimachus - who took Thracia (between Greece and Turkey).
4) Ptolemy I - who ruled over Egypt.

Daniel 11:5
After the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C., the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I Soter, the son of Lagus, the king of the south.
"One of his princes", Seleucus I, Nicator ["the king of the north"] also rose to power, and took over the region of Syria. He eventually became more powerful than his former Egyptian ruler.

Daniel 11:6
"The daughter of the king of the south" = Berenice II, daughter of Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus II Theos.
Two years after the marriage, Berenice's father (Ptolemy Philadelphus) died.
Antiochus restored Laodice and put away Berenice.
He was then poisoned by Laodice.
Berenice fled with her children to Daphne where she was killed.

Daniel 11:7-9
A "branch of her roots" will come with an army. This was Berenice's brother, Ptolemy III Euregetes, "the king of the south".
"The king of the north" is Seleucus II Kallinikos, son of Laodice who was defeated in a later invasion of Egypt. He lost most of Asia Minor along with losing to the military expansion of Ptolemy III who put his mother, Laodice, to death.
Verse 9: "And [the king of the north] will enter into the kingdom of the king of the south, but will return to his own land". (literal translation)
Seleucus II, son of the deceased Laodice, sought revenge for the vengeance taken by Ptolemy III. "Justin says that he fitted out a great fleet, which was destroyed by a violent storm; and after this he raised a great army to recover his dominion, but was defeated by Ptolemy, and fled in great terror and trembling to Antioch" (Gill's Commentary).

Daniel 11:10-12
His ["the king of the north"] sons = Seleucus III Ceraunus and Antiochus III the Great.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III, the Great.
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy IV Philopator.
Ptolemy IV defeated the much larger army of Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia in 217.

Daniel 11:13-17
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy V Epiphanes.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III.
Antiochus III gives his daughter Cleopatra I to Ptolemy V, in hopes of permanent influence in Egypt.
Verse 14a: "And in those times many will rise against the king of the south".
At this time, many of the Egyptians began rebelling against the ruling Grecian family and began rioting and defying them.

Verse 14b: "And the sons of the violent ones of your people shall rise up to establish the vision, but they shall stumble". (LIT)
This verse speaks of the violent sons of Daniel's nation. Many commentators suggest that these people will stand up against the king of the south, but this text foretells that these people will lift themselves up to establish the vision. They were called a violent people by Ezekiel who in this way described them as shedders of blood. (18:10a) The word vision [in Aramaic chezev; in Hebrew chazown] is used in the Book of Daniel e.g. in: 7:1,2,7,13,15; 8:1,2,13,15,17,26; 9:24; 10:14; 11:14. All of these visions prophecy of the future persecution of God's nation, that would be fulfilled in the distant future. (Daniel 8:17; 10:14)
What kind of violent people would lift themselves in the ancient time, to fulfill the inspired visions and prophecies before their time? The First Book of the Maccabees clearly indicates the Maccabees as being these violent people. (1:54; 6:7) Until now, many commentators believe that the Maccabees fulfilled the prophecies of the Book of Daniel. But Jesus said that the vision which concerns the abomination of desolation and the persecutions of God's nation will be fulfilled in the future. (Compare Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:1- Cool

Verse 11:16b "and he standeth in the desirable land, and it is wholly in his hand". (YLT)
After one hundred years, Palestine again changed hands. The Seleucid king, Antiochus III, took control of Palestine c. 200 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:18
Antioch III against the Roman Empire.
"Ruler" = Lucius Cornelius, the Roman general.
The Romans humbled him (191) at Thermopylae and again at Magnesia (190).

Daniel 11:19a
Subsequently, Antiochus was forced to campaign within his own lands to stop his satraps from declaring themselves independent rulers.

Daniel 11:19b
"He shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found" = end of the period of greatness for the Seleucid Empire. (Compare Revelation 18:21; Jeremiah 51:64)

Daniel 11:20
"And stood up on his station hath one causing an exactor to pass over the honour of the kingdom, and in a few days he is destroyed, and not in anger, nor in battle". (YLT)

"The king of the north" = Caesar Augustus. The first Roman emperor.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

In 2 B.C., Augustus sent out "an exactor" by ordering a registration, or census, most likely to learn the size of the population for purposes of taxation and military conscription. Because of this decree, Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem for registration, resulting in Jesus' birth at that foretold location. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1-12)

Daniel didn’t prophecy that "the king of the north" would die "after a few days" from this event, but would die in the undetermined future "after a few days". In the end of July, in the year 14 A.D., August left Rome. He took a vacation in his old age and health. On the 19th of August, after a short sickness, he "passed away peacefully, not feeling any pain". While traveling in Campania, Augustus died "in a few days", neither "in anger" at an assassin's hands nor "in warfare", but after a short illness.

Many say that "the king of the north" is Seleucus IV Philopater, who sent out his finance minister, Heliodorus to collect taxes. But Seleucus was murdered in a conspiracy engineered by Heliodorus. It is said that the king here was to however die a natural death (not one of anger or of battle). Therefore, this writing does not conform to Seleucus IV. Also, verse 21 cannot carry over to the rule of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel 11:21-23
Verse 21: "And in his place shall arise a despised. And they will not give him the royal majesty. He will come in a time of peace and will seize the kingdom through duplicity".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius 14-37.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

"The ruler of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua].

Augustus only chose him after more favored heirs had died.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says, Tiberius played politics with the Senate and did not allow it to name him emperor for almost a month [after Augustus died]". He told the Senate that no one but Augustus was capable of carrying the burden of ruling the Roman Empire and asked the senators to restore the republic by entrusting such authority to a group of men rather than to one man. "Not daring to take him at his word", wrote historian Will Durant, "the Senate exchanged bows with him until at last he accepted power". Durant added: "The play was well acted on both sides. Tiberius wanted the principate, or he would have found some way to evade it; the Senate feared and hated him, but shrank from reestablishing a republic based, like the old, upon theoretically sovereign assemblies". Thus, Tiberius took hold of the kingdom by means of duplicity.

Verse 22: "And the arms of the flood shall be swept from before his face, and they will be broken, and also the ruler of a covenant".

In 15 A.D., Germanicus led his forces against the German hero Arminius, with some success. However, the limited victories were won at great cost, and Tiberius thereafter aborted operations in Germany. Instead, by promoting civil war, he tried to prevent German tribes from uniting. Tiberius generally favoured a defensive foreign policy and focused on strengthening the frontiers. This stance was fairly successful. In this way "the arms of the flood" were controlled and were "broken".
"Broken" too was "the Leader of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua]. (Compare Isaiah 55:4; Daniel 9:25, 27a)

Verse 23: "And after they join themselves to him, he will do guile, and he will exalt himself, and will do strong by a few of the people".

The oath of loyalty bound the army and officials to the Tiberius.
"Sextus Pompeius and Sextus Apuleius, the consuls, were the first to swear allegiance to Tiberius Caesar, and in their presence the oath was taken by Seius Strabo and Caius Turranius, respectively the commander of the praetorian cohorts and the superintendent of the corn supplies. Then the Senate, the soldiers and the people did the same".
Those few people were the Roman Praetorian Guard, encamped close to Rome's walls. Its proximity intimidated the Senate and helped Tiberius keep in check any uprisings against his authority among the populace. By means of some 10.000 guards Tiberius remained mighty.

Daniel 11:24
"In a time of peace he will come against [sense: will attack] the fattest [sense: mighty] of the land, and he will do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers: prey, and spoil, and substance, their possession he will distribute. And against strongholds he will devise his schemes until the appointed time".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius and next emperors.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

The word "mashman" refers here to fattest [sense: mighty]. (Compare Ps.78:31 and Is.10:16)
Because he was very suspicious, Emperor Tiberius, extended the law of laesa majestas. Many senators were put to death on a charge of treason against the emperor. For the people of the provinces, it was a peaceful and well-ordered time.

Daniel 11:25,26a
Aurelian (270-275) against Queen Zenobia of Palmyra ["the king of the south"].

The Palmyrene army occupied Egypt in 269 B.C.E. under the pretext of making it secure for Rome. Zenobia wanted to make Palmyra the dominant city in the east and wanted to rule over Rome's eastern provinces. Alarmed by her ambition, Aurelian aroused "his power and his heart" to proceed against Zenobia.
Zenobia valiantly defended it, but without success. She and her son fled toward Persia, only to be captured by the Romans at the Euphrates River. The Palmyrenes surrendered their city in 272 B.C. Aurelian spared Zenobia, making her the prize feature in his triumphal procession through Rome in 274 B.C. She spent the rest of her life as a Roman matron.
Aurelian himself 'did not stand because of schemes against him.' In 275 B.C., he set out on an expedition against the Persians. While he was waiting in Thrace for the opportunity to cross the straits into Asia Minor, those who 'ate his food' carried out schemes against him and brought about his "breakdown". He was going to call his secretary Eros to account for irregularities. Eros, however, forged a list of names of certain officers marked for death. The sight of this list moved the officers to plot Aurelian's assassination and to murder him.

Daniel 11:26b. (Compare Daniel 9:26b)
"and his army will be flooded and many will fall down slain".

Decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

"The strength of Aurelian had crushed on every side the enemies of Rome. After his death they seemed to revive with an increase of fury and of numbers".

Daniel 11:27
"And both these kings, their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie. But it will not succeed, for yet (the) finish to (the) appointed time." (11:27, literal translation)
It certainly suggests that the verse does not concern to the ancient times. It describes the end of times right before the appointed time. (Compare Daniel 11:29a)

Russia and England (from second half of the XIX Century).

Egyptian history dates back to about 4000 B.C., when the kingdoms of upper and lower Egypt, already highly sophisticated, were united. Egypt's golden age coincided with the 18th and 19th dynasties (16th to 13th century B.C.), during which the empire was established. Persia conquered Egypt in 525 B.C.E, Alexander the Great subdued it in 332 B.C.E., and then the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled the land until 30 B.C., when Cleopatra, last of the line, committed suicide and Egypt became a Roman, then Byzantine, province. Arab caliphs ruled Egypt from 641 until 1517, when the Turks took it for their Ottoman Empire. Napoléon's armies occupied the country from 1798 to 1801. In 1805, Mohammed Ali, leader of a band of Albanian soldiers, became pasha of Egypt. After completion of the Suez Canal in 1869, the French and British took increasing interest in Egypt. British troops occupied Egypt in 1882, and British resident agents became its actual administrators, though it remained under nominal Turkish sovereignty. In 1914, this fiction was ended, and Egypt became a protectorate of Britain.
Russia grew expanding its power over huge regions, and by the end of XIX century Russia possessed territories from the mouths of the Danube and Visla in the west, reached the Pacific Ocean in the east, began in the Euroasian tundra in the north and had borders with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China in the south.

In 1907, an Anglo-Russian agreement divided Persia into English and Russian spheres of influence, a large Russian sphere in the north, covering the most valuable part of the country, a neutral sphere in the centre, and a smaller British sphere in the southeast.

Daniel 11:28
"And (he) ["the king of the north"] will go back (to) his land with great wealth; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land." (literal translation)

History of Russia after World War II.

The passage contains enough details, which allow for a correct interpretation.

Daniel foretells here that "the king of the north" [Russia] will not only be successful in WW II, but also that he returns to his land with a great amount of goods. If only Hitler had listened to Mussolini and the Japanese, who in 1943 advised him to stop military actions, the prophetic detail would have never been fulfilled.

Daniel 11:28b
"and turned back to his own land".

The break-up of the Soviet Union and return to the country of Russian garrisons (the liquidation of Russian military bases).

The prophecy of Daniel 11 is the key to understanding what is going to happen in the future.

The latter statements Jesus' and Daniel's are alike.

Matthew 24:5,6 (Luke 21:8,9) = Daniel 11:27,28 = XIX, XX, XXI Century, before the World War III

"Many for will come in the name of me, saying: 'I am the anointed'; and many they will mislead." (Matthew 24:5, literal translation)

"He said, 'Watch out that you don't get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, 'I AM,' and, 'The time is at hand.' Therefore don't follow them." (Luke 21:8, WEB)

"Don't be afraid when you hear of wars and revolutions; such things must happen first, but they do not mean that the end is near." (Luke 21:9, GNB)

Matthew 24:7 = Daniel 11:29,30 = WW III

Matthew 24:15 = Daniel 11:31 = "trampling of Jerusalem" [the great tribulation of Christian minorities; compare Revelation 11]

Matthew 24:29 = Daniel 11:40 = WW IV

Daniel 11:29a
"At (the) appointed time (he) will return, and will enter into (the) south."

1. Russian troops will be station abroad again.
2. "The king of the north" will come into the South.

Daniel 11:29b,30
"But will not be as (the) former or as (the) latter. For will come against him (the) dwellers of coastlands of Kittim, and (he) will be humbled, and will return." (literal translation)

1. The West will come against the Russia.
2. "The king of the north" will be humbled, and will return.
(Compare Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4)

Daniel 11:31
1. The nations will trample "the holy city" [of those who belong to Christ] forty-two months. (Compare Revelation 11:2,7; 13:5,7a; Luke 21:24b; Matthew 24:21,22; Daniel 7:25; 9:27; Isaiah 29:1-8,20-24; Matthew 13:40-43,49,50; Ezekiel 13:8-16,20-23; 34:10; 2Thessalonians 2:8b; Isaiah 28:1-4,17-22; 6:13; Malachi 3:1-5)

The religious organizations from among Christian minorities which Jesus compared to "the weeds", will be "burned". (Mt.13:30) Yahoueh will protect the righteous ones. (Re.11:1) "The wheat" will be put into "the storehouse" after the tribulation – which means that "the sons of the kingdom" will become gathered and unified at that time. They will shine as brightly as the sun after the tribulation.

2. "The abomination of desolation" [the World Government] will be set up. (Revelation 13:7b; Daniel 12:11)

Daniel 11:32-35
Details of their future global religious persecution. (Compare Daniel 8:11,12; Revelation 6:9-11; 12:15)

Daniel 11:36-39
Russia before the World War IV. (Compare Ezekiel 38:7)

Daniel 11:40
The World War IV. (Compare Luke 21:25; Isaiah 5:26-30; Matthew 24:29; Daniel 7:11; Revelation 13:3; Ezekiel 32:2-16; Habakkuk 1:5-17; Revelation 6:12; Zephaniah 1:14-18; Joel 2:1-11,31, ASV)

Daniel 11:41
Occupation of Israel. (Compare Ezekiel 39:23-29)

Daniel 11:42,43
The triumph of Russia. (Compare Isaiah 10:12-15)

Daniel 11:44,45
Russia again will attack Israel. (Compare Daniel 12:1; Joel 2:20; Isaiah 14:4-27; Habakkuk 3:3-16)

"Many will study, therefore understanding will be multiplied". (Daniel 12:4b)

What is the Bible's scenario?
1. Russian troops station abroad again. (Daniel 11:29a)

2. "The king of the north" becomes very aggressive and enters into the south. (Daniel 11:29a)

3. The West opposes Russia. (Daniel 11:30; Matthew 24:7a; Revelation 6:4)

4. "The king of the north" is humiliated, and turns back. (Daniel 11:30). He does not make the same mistake as Hitler did, he does not fight to the death and this is why Russia is not occupied.

5. The World Government appears after that war which replaces the ineffective UN. Its power gradually rises. (Revelation 13:1,2,7b; Daniel 11:31b)

6. Russia rebuilds its military power very fast and acts effectively on the world scene. (Daniel 11:30b)

7. "Russia’s rulers pay attention to those "who forsake the holy covenant". (Daniel 11:30b)

8. A man "of fierce countenance, and understanding ambiguous sayings" becomes the president of the USA, and he begins to fight with Christian minorities. (Daniel 8:23-25)

9. There is a tribulation of "Jerusalem" = it is a tribulation of Christian minorities, which lasts 42 month’s. (Daniel 11:31a; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:5-7a; Matthew 13:40-42,49,50; 24:48-51)

The Christian communities, which are now called sects, are decimated. It is the biggest genocide concerning religion in history. The eyes of people who were deceived by them will be opened. (Isaiah 6:9-13)

The "tyrant", according to LXX “lawless” = the rulers of Christian minorities will be removed. (Isaiah 29:1-8,20,21) Ezekiel calls them "women". (Ezekiel 13:17-23; Revelation 14:4a; Isaiah 3:12) Paul names them "the man of lawlessness". (2 Thessalonians 2:4,8b)

10. Immediately after the tribulation of those days "the abomination of desolation", in other words the World Government will be set up [will given authority; Revelation 13]. (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11) The Book of Revelation calls it a "beast". (11:7; 13:1,2,7, Cool

11. The spirit is poured out upon people who belong to Jesus. (Revelation 11:11-13) The "wheat" = the sons of kingdom, will be gathered into the "storehouse" after burning the "weeds" = organized Christian churches which earlier posed as the churches of Christ. (Matthew 13:30b; Eph.1:9,10) And then Jesus will set up a "faithful slave" over his whole possession. (Matthew 24:45-47)

12. The seven trumpets start to sound. Those who belong to Jesus are revealing future events to the World. They will also try to explain what God thinks of certain issues. (Revelation 8:6-10:11)

13. The power in Russia will be taken over by a dictator who is atheist. The military power will be his god. (Daniel 11:36-39)

14. Not longer after that, there will be the WWIV. That time Russia will triumph the same as it did after the WWII. (Daniel 11:40; Daniel 7:11; Luke 21:25; Revelation 13:3a). "The king of the north" will act as a "God’s hammer" ravaging many countries like Babylon in ancient times. (Jeremiah 51:20,25)

15. Russia occupies Israel as well. (Daniel 11:41)

16. After that war the World Government is resuscitated. The "purple beast" will be given even more power. The politicians will relinquish their sovereignty in favor of the beast. (Revelation 13:14; 17:8,17)

17. Attack on "Babylon the Great" = big, apostatized churches, drunk with blood of innocent people, which betrayed God and Jesus by co-operating with kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:16)

18. Next, nations see the sign of the Son of man (Matthew 24:30). Probably it will be connected with the first resurrection (Revelation 20:6). People who have died in union with Jesus will rise first (among 144.000). They will get a spirit body at the resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:35,44) What will be the proof of the resurrection? Immediately after that, remaining of 144,000 will be transfigured (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). Simultaneously they will be caught away from the earth and taken to heaven. The transfigurations of belonging to Jesus dependably will not be seen and it will cause a great expression on nations.

19. The whole nation of Israel is converting and gathering. (Ezekiel 39:25-29; Romans 11:25-32). After taking to heaven belonging to group of 144,000 nation of Israel will be a light for the nations. God will be with them and will pour his spirit over them. (Ezekiel 39:29)

20. Rebuilding of the Temple according to directions given to Ezekiel. (Ezekiel 37:24-28; 43:11)

21. There will be collection of chosen, separation the "sheep from the goats". (Matthew 24:31; 25:31-44; Revelation 14:15,16).

22. "The king of the north" will attack people who worship the true God [Israel] (Ezekiel 38:10-12). "The beast" [the word government] also will take part in this attack. (Revelation 19:19).

23. After Armageddon the power on the world will be taken over by the "new heaven" = the kingdom of God i.e. Jesus and belonging to him. (Daniel 7:27; Matthew 6:10; Revelation 21:1-4) "The old heaven" = imperfect system of authority created by man will go away. Rules and the law created by imperfect people which are captivating and making difficulty will be untied. All activities remaining uncovered, good or bad will be revealed, all crimes will come to light. (2 Peter 3:10; 1 Timothy 5:25).

24. The rest of dead will come to life! The earth will become the paradise. (Acts 24:15; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; 25:8; 35:5-7). When the thousand year’s period of Jesus’ kingdom will end people who come to life during this period are put to the test. And then they will really come to life God’s point of view and then they will get ability to live forever. (Revelation 20:5a,7,8; comp. Luke 15:32; 1 John 3:14).

"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth will I cause you to hear them". (Isaiah 42:9)

see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. RossThe previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6

..............

THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.
Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.

Ciggy Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:59 am

And Cush we know to encompass parts of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Somalia.

Lulzy is proven wrong once again.

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:58 am

Ciggy wrote:And Cush we know to encompass parts of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Somalia.

Lulzy is proven wrong once again.

Does Uzbekistan have significance in Gods/True Lillys revisionist history.I like the sound of it,I heard it's a hub of taboo sex videos of an incestuos kind with a touch of goat and that I can buy Soviet era military hardware,like nukes and a little ebola.

Interesting place.Fair few yankee military types are there,thought it was for an oil pipeline,maybe they like the underground video scene...who knows?

Ciggy Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:17 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:And Cush we know to encompass parts of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Somalia.

Lulzy is proven wrong once again.

Does Uzbekistan have significance in Gods/True Lillys revisionist history.I like the sound of it,I heard it's a hub of taboo sex videos of an incestuos kind with a touch of goat and that I can buy Soviet era military hardware,like nukes and a little ebola.

Interesting place.Fair few yankee military types are there,thought it was for an oil pipeline,maybe they like the underground video scene...who knows?

There was actually a different Kingdom of Kush in Uzbekistan. Scythian type culture in the old days, but more Turkish like after the Turkic tribal invasions. I know naught about Uzbek porn, but it's likely that Soviet military hardware can be had there at a reasonable rate.

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:36 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:And Cush we know to encompass parts of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Somalia.

Lulzy is proven wrong once again.

Does Uzbekistan have significance in Gods/True Lillys revisionist history.I like the sound of it,I heard it's a hub of taboo sex videos of an incestuos kind with a touch of goat and that I can buy Soviet era military hardware,like nukes and a little ebola.

Interesting place.Fair few yankee military types are there,thought it was for an oil pipeline,maybe they like the underground video scene...who knows?

There was actually a different Kingdom of Kush in Uzbekistan. Scythian type culture in the old days, but more Turkish like after the Turkic tribal invasions. I know naught about Uzbek porn, but it's likely that Soviet military hardware can be had there at a reasonable rate.

It's the hardware I'm interested in.I don't go porn,but do d/l for a mental patient in the NL's,we swap for pot that he grows,even the leaf hits harder than our best tailor made heads,homegrown,in pots,Jan you good thing,he reaped two weeks ago.

Anyway,I came across this site,Family Tabu,very disturbing little place,so I d/l a bit with torrents,hoping to find occult and bloodline types there...there was none,except for very ugly people rooting each other,providing their birth certificates,it was the real thing,the occultist laughed their heads off at me and the people on film,"My seven year old daughter sucks cock better than that"...I closed the download,found a dark corner and curled up for 5 hours disturbed,sucking my fingers like I did as a kid...

scared

Ciggy Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:36 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Anyway,I came across this site,Family Tabu,very disturbing little place,so I d/l a bit with torrents,hoping to find occult and bloodline types there...there was none,except for very ugly people rooting each other,providing their birth certificates,it was the real thing,the occultist laughed their heads off at me and the people on film,"My seven year old daughter sucks cock better than that"...I closed the download,found a dark corner and curled up for 5 hours disturbed,sucking my fingers like I did as a kid...

FamilyTabu is Belgian/Dutch according to a whois search. Lulzy has somewhat of a point about the Benelux types and the pr0n they get into there. They seem to do more than their share of the (adult) incest shite. One could make the case for that being the "Dutch Disease" (so long as you include Flemmish and Waloon in the mix, anyone with "van" in the name!)

The elite occultists don't ever put out anything they make on the Internet, in case you didn't know. They have no need of the income from it, and they only film it as blackmail for politicians, police, judges, etc. If it leaks to the internet, the blackmail trigger has been fired and the prosecutions have begun (like they almost did in the Dutroux case--a shot across the bow to him there). Shite like FamilyTabu is pure 100% amateur, mostly people desperate to make a li'l extra cash from demented Belgians. They usually keep it adult to avoid legal issues, or at least stay low priority in a police agency's investigation list.

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:43 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Anyway,I came across this site,Family Tabu,very disturbing little place,so I d/l a bit with torrents,hoping to find occult and bloodline types there...there was none,except for very ugly people rooting each other,providing their birth certificates,it was the real thing,the occultist laughed their heads off at me and the people on film,"My seven year old daughter sucks cock better than that"...I closed the download,found a dark corner and curled up for 5 hours disturbed,sucking my fingers like I did as a kid...

FamilyTabu is Belgian/Dutch according to a whois search. Lulzy has somewhat of a point about the Benelux types and the pr0n they get into there. They seem to do more than their share of the (adult) incest shite. One could make the case for that being the "Dutch Disease" (so long as you include Flemmish and Waloon in the mix, anyone with "van" in the name!)

The elite occultists don't ever put out anything they make on the Internet, in case you didn't know. They have no need of the income from it, and they only film it as blackmail for politicians, police, judges, etc. If it leaks to the internet, the blackmail trigger has been fired and the prosecutions have begun (like they almost did in the Dutroux case--a shot across the bow to him there). Shite like FamilyTabu is pure 100% amateur, mostly people desperate to make a li'l extra cash from demented Belgians. They usually keep it adult to avoid legal issues, or at least stay low priority in a police agency's investigation list.

All true that.

But what I'm looking for,is one of them that has branched out,You kinow,perves like to find other perves.I only got the torrent shit,what is at that site for members...well,the forums are pretty straight forward,fucking disgusting.

Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:44 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Anyway,I came across this site,Family Tabu,very disturbing little place,so I d/l a bit with torrents,hoping to find occult and bloodline types there...there was none,except for very ugly people rooting each other,providing their birth certificates,it was the real thing,the occultist laughed their heads off at me and the people on film,"My seven year old daughter sucks cock better than that"...I closed the download,found a dark corner and curled up for 5 hours disturbed,sucking my fingers like I did as a kid...

FamilyTabu is Belgian/Dutch according to a whois search. Lulzy has somewhat of a point about the Benelux types and the pr0n they get into there. They seem to do more than their share of the (adult) incest shite. One could make the case for that being the "Dutch Disease" (so long as you include Flemmish and Waloon in the mix, anyone with "van" in the name!)

The elite occultists don't ever put out anything they make on the Internet, in case you didn't know. They have no need of the income from it, and they only film it as blackmail for politicians, police, judges, etc. If it leaks to the internet, the blackmail trigger has been fired and the prosecutions have begun (like they almost did in the Dutroux case--a shot across the bow to him there). Shite like FamilyTabu is pure 100% amateur, mostly people desperate to make a li'l extra cash from demented Belgians. They usually keep it adult to avoid legal issues, or at least stay low priority in a police agency's investigation list.

All true that.

But what I'm looking for,is one of them that has branched out,You kinow,perves like to find other perves.I only got the torrent shit,what is at that site for members...well,the forums are pretty straight forward,fucking disgusting.

Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Ciggy Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:02 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:18 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Dead on mate...Dead on.This country is infested with blue-blood breeding,there's two examples used on this forum,Sams family and True Lilly...both mothers,proud breeders,with all these myths and legends about their bloodline and you take a look at them...just take a look at them...every medical condition that has inbreeding as a precedent,is present.From colour-blindness,to grotesque facial alignments.
Karen,Sams sister and her father,being hilarious to look at.To think,P,my niece came from them.Then again,my genes seemed to correct her short comings,they're all double recessive,not cock amongst them...well,the mother did wear the pants,while dad just beat off in the shed.

wacky

Billy Ruben Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:19 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Include Vassal States with that...Australia being part of the Commonwealth,New Zealand and Canada...all,heavy inbreeders.

thumbs down

Ciggy Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:33 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Dead on mate...Dead on.This country is infested with blue-blood breeding,there's two examples used on this forum,Sams family and True Lilly...both mothers,proud breeders,with all these myths and legends about their bloodline and you take a look at them...just take a look at them...every medical condition that has inbreeding as a precedent,is present.From colour-blindness,to grotesque facial alignments.
Karen,Sams sister and her father,being hilarious to look at.To think,P,my niece came from them.Then again,my genes seemed to correct her short comings,they're all double recessive,not cock amongst them...well,the mother did wear the pants,while dad just beat off in the shed.

Ciggy Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:43 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Include Vassal States with that...Australia being part of the Commonwealth,New Zealand and Canada...all,heavy inbreeders.

Yeah, America's been a stealth member of the Commonwealth since Teddy Roosevelt's time, although there's a bit less of the inbreeding here as our official royalty is Hollywood actors, and they are under no constraint to limit marriages to cousins. English inbreeding tradition still holds in the southern states to some extent, though not as much as is piss-taken about. And with the heavily encouraged stream of immigration, we get a constant supply of fresh DNA to mongrelize us in a healthy way. We'll all be part Spaniard and Aztec in a few generations.

sharky Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:50 am

Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Include Vassal States with that...Australia being part of the Commonwealth,New Zealand and Canada...all,heavy inbreeders.

Yeah, America's been a stealth member of the Commonwealth since Teddy Roosevelt's time, although there's a bit less of the inbreeding here as our official royalty is Hollywood actors, and they are under no constraint to limit marriages to cousins. English inbreeding tradition still holds in the southern states to some extent, though not as much as is piss-taken about. And with the heavily encouraged stream of immigration, we get a constant supply of fresh DNA to mongrelize us in a healthy way. We'll all be part Spaniard and Aztec in a few generations.

Ahoy!!!! ciggywiggy, you ol' fuktarded bilge rat.................well said! thumbs up

viva la raza!!!!! kaliphorniah from LA south is Nuevo Mexico.....................lol........

Nuevo Yorko isn't far behind......... popcorn

Billy Ruben Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:59 am

barnacle bill wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Always wondered about that with the Dutch,they're as ugly as most British...two countries of inbreds...and mostly all white,except for a few vids of crackwhore black,sucking dongers with their daughters...and yes,she did'nt want to be there and was most amateurish compared to MUm,who could out-suck a fucking Dyson Vacuum cleaner...and they're pretty good machines...I think there's even feel good attachments I can buy for it at the local sex shoppe...

Any country that still has royals is suss on the incest front. Leadership being required to only marry cousins sets a bad precedent for the commoners.

Include Vassal States with that...Australia being part of the Commonwealth,New Zealand and Canada...all,heavy inbreeders.

Yeah, America's been a stealth member of the Commonwealth since Teddy Roosevelt's time, although there's a bit less of the inbreeding here as our official royalty is Hollywood actors, and they are under no constraint to limit marriages to cousins. English inbreeding tradition still holds in the southern states to some extent, though not as much as is piss-taken about. And with the heavily encouraged stream of immigration, we get a constant supply of fresh DNA to mongrelize us in a healthy way. We'll all be part Spaniard and Aztec in a few generations.

Ahoy!!!! ciggywiggy, you ol' fuktarded bilge rat.................well said!

viva la raza!!!!! kaliphorniah from LA south is Nuevo Mexico.....................lol........

Nuevo Yorko isn't far behind.........

The hard-right Christians call it Jew York...I'll find a link to this blog,you'll laugh at the collosal ignorance,but it is a piss-take site...

mugglez Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:59 am

yeah.....ciggy, who claims not to be antisemitic has called it Jew York also, lots of ignorant take it up the ass clods do........... according to my unbiased research I believe it is to keep us from the Data that will definitely uplift our Spirits and lives..........like sabrage and el kabong point out, the 4 levels of understanding, in Kabbalah it is the reuniting of our Spirits with the Creator Force....... thumbs up

Here's a excellent book I'm currently reading.......some very interesting points.......synesthesia, mixing of senses.on Sinai it is written that the people saw sounds cheers

Aryeh Kaplan - Jewish Meditation, a Practical Guide

http://urj.org/learning/my/books/?syspage=article&item_id=1583

the peeps that denigrate the Jews and the Bible are generally ignorant liars that don't know what they are talking about............like ciggywiggy for example.............then there are the deranged that twist and deform scripture to fit their demented agenda like tru lilly and hitler..... thumbs up

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