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IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.
Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do ),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,
cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.
Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do ),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,
cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE POST ON
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
(from other threads it was quoted in)
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.
2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003
Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.
Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel
Before
(removed)
After
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake
People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*
‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011
Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011
to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)
A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.
http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137
Eureka Street
Ballarat
Australia
3350
...BALLARAT
TURKEY...
...TURKEY
BALLARAT...
BALLARAT VICTORIA
MELBOURNE VICTORIA
Eastern evening
Eureka!
Eureka! Gold
Swarm
Queen Bee
Eureka Tower, Melbourne
Shrine of Remembrance
Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck
Arts Precinct, Melbourne
Government House, Melbourne
Long Shadows
Eureka Centre, Ballarat
Eureka Centre, Ballarat
http://flickriver.com/photos/adonline/tags/eureka/
We love Tintin,
Snowy and all their friends !
We are very excited to bring the official Tintin
merchandise to Australia for the first time.
We also have the entire range of Tintin
books in French and Dutch -
something that has never been
available before in Australia !
[url=http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:DvYuhAusWL4J:www.pinkbear.com.au/
australia
tintin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a]http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a[/url]
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052
ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...
Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor.
TRADITIONAL...
An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.
Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada
PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...
...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.
Last edited by vera susa; 11-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.
WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE POST ON
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
(from other threads it was quoted in)
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.
2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003
Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.
Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel
Before
(removed)
After
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake
People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*
‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011
Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011
to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)
A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.
http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137
Eureka Street
Ballarat
Australia
3350
...BALLARAT
TURKEY...
...TURKEY
BALLARAT...
BALLARAT VICTORIA
MELBOURNE VICTORIA
Eastern evening
Eureka!
Eureka! Gold
Swarm
Queen Bee
Eureka Tower, Melbourne
Shrine of Remembrance
Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck
Arts Precinct, Melbourne
Government House, Melbourne
Long Shadows
Eureka Centre, Ballarat
Eureka Centre, Ballarat
http://flickriver.com/photos/adonline/tags/eureka/
We love Tintin,
Snowy and all their friends !
We are very excited to bring the official Tintin
merchandise to Australia for the first time.
We also have the entire range of Tintin
books in French and Dutch -
something that has never been
available before in Australia !
[url=http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:DvYuhAusWL4J:www.pinkbear.com.au/
australia
tintin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a]http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a[/url]
But "tintin" also steals your posts a and doesn't quote the source :tintin wrote:
11-05-2008, 03:33 PM#4789
It's a Cinderella story.
To whom belong these shoes?
They belong to these
young kids who have a long
FUTURE in front of them.
Cinderella and the.....
The GOLDEN road
to AUSTRALIA
Jenna Bush and Hager
in Crawford Texas.
CINDERELLA Crawford
Cinderella's mother was
Jennifer WALKER
On the SHOE page Cinderella
and Wizard of OZ are
mentioned next to each
other....
Third one (out of three) is the RED SHOES by Hans
Christian Anderson.
Princess Mary Donaldson is
H.C. Anderson Ambassador to
Australia. Three Books on
the shoe page. Cinderella, Wiz
of Oz and the Red Shoes.
H.C. Anderson, Mary Donaldson
and a Suri Cruise with
A RED SHOE
And Tom from Syracuse. And it
was in SYRACRUISE
that Archimedes shouted
EUREKA!!
EUREKA Ballarat
AUSTRALIA
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052
ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...
Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor.
TRADITIONAL...
An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.
Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada
PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...
...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.
Last edited by vera susa; 11-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.
WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE POST ON
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
true lilly wrote:...mmm...yesss...strange news...
August 6
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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after Istanbul. The city has a mean elevation of 938 metres (3077 ft),
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500 × 361 - Swotti - Versus Ankara
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Ankara Outlines New Role of Military
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"NINNY" alright...the lot of 'them'...
__________________________
Quote: ninny...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2816
rofl. does she have an iPhone in her hand?
Originally Posted by tintin
THANKSGIVING means TURKEYS.
___________________________________________________________________
Stanley Melbourne Bruce's Cigarette Case
Stanley Melbourne Bruce was born into a wealthy commercial family,
and was an outstanding athlete at school and later Cambridge University,
where he qualified as a barrister.
He was in England when war was declared in 1914, and enlisted in the
British Army. He was awarded the Military Cross, a high order award for
bravery in battle, at Gallipoli.
He was wounded and returned to Australia in 1917. He entered the
Commonwealth Parliament in 1918, and served as Treasurer,
and then Prime Minister.
He served as Australia’s High Commissioner to Britain between
1933 and 1945.
Until the day he died,
Stanley Melbourne Bruce
kept two photographs in his study –
one of his wife and one of
Turkish President Mustafa Kemal Atatürk,
the founder of the modern Turkish state.
As young men they were enemies at Gallipoli, but during the post-war years
of international reconstruction, they forged a mutual admiration as
passionate advocates of secularism.
After the League of Nations Montreux conference in 1936,
that successfully organised the international passage of warships
through the Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits of Turkey,
Atatürk presented Bruce
with a gold cigarette case, which
he treasured for the rest of his life.
Stanley Melbourne Bruce (1883 – 1967) was
Prime Minister of Australia from February 1923 to October 1929
Stanley Melbourne Bruce’s cigarette case is held
at the National Archives of Australia in Canberra
http://dl.nfsa.gov.au/module/1174/
Gold cigarette case from the Duke and Duchess of York
Albert,
the Duke of York (later King George VI)
formally opened Parliament
House in Canberra on 9 May 1927.
To mark the occasion, the Duke and
Duchess presented Prime Minister Bruce
with a gold cigarette case
featuring a diamond monogram ‘EA’ –
Elizabeth and Albert.
(Photographer: Angus Kendon)......
BUT... HE KEPT Atatürk's
as his Life Long Treasure...
...but 'they' have ALWAYS IGNORED THESE REAL CONNECTIONS
BETWEEN REAL WORLD CHANGERS...even though 'they' could play
'their' MISLEADING GAME of TWISTING WORDS & MEANINGS,
that 'just happens' to tie in with 'their',
BACARDI/BAT/BATMAN/JOKER 'links' in those posts...
i.e. BRUCE (Wayne)=MELBOURNE=BATMAN...
John Batman (21 January 1801 – 6 May 1839)...When he found the current site of central Melbourne
he noted in his diary,
"This will be the place for a village."[1][2]
and declared the land "Batmania"...
was an Australian grazier, businessman and explorer
who is best known for his role in the founding of a settlement
which became Melbourne and the colony of Victoria.1880s Artist impression of Batman's Treaty being signed
His parents, William and Mary Batman,
came to Sydney in 1797 aboard the Ganges.
John was born in 1801 at Rosehill, Parramatta
(now a suburb of Sydney).
In 1821 John and brother Henry journeyed to
Van Diemen's Land (now known as Tasmania)
to settle on land in the north-east near Ben Lomond
LOTS here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batman
Bust of Stanley Bruce
by sculptor Wallace Anderson
located in the
Prime Minister's Avenue
in the Ballarat Botanical Gardens.
Maritime Industries crisis
Prime Minister Bruce holding a meeting with
Prime Minister-elect Scullin a day before Scullin's swearing in.
...An independent liberal candidate's preferences flowed mostly to
Holloway, thus making Bruce the first sitting Prime Minister to lose his
seat. The only other sitting Australian prime minister to be defeated
in his own electorate is John Howard, at the 2007 election.
Bruce divided the rest of his life between London and Melbourne.
He remained Australian High Commissioner until 1945;
subsequently he represented Australia on various UN bodies,
and his name was considered for the position of
United Nations Secretary-General.
He was the chairman of the World Food Council for five years.
Bruce was appointed as the first Chancellor of the Australian National University
and served from 1951 until 1961.
...funny to, that WIKI's "RANDOM" articles, brought me here last night:Fisken was born at Ballarat, Victoria,
Archibald Fisken CMG
OBE
Member of the Australian Parliament
for Ballaarat
to grazier Archibald James Fisken and Beatrice Mary, née Wanliss.
He attended E.N. Maryatt's Church of England Grammar School for Boys,
Ballarat College and Geelong Church of England Grammar School
before his 1916 commission in the Royal Field Artillery.
He served on the Western Front from 1916 to 1918;
in 1918 he was awarded the Military Cross and promoted to lieutenant,
although he was also wounded.
Returning from the war,
Fisken maintained the family property
(Lal Lal, in the family since 1846)
at Yendon.
He was elected to the Buninyong Shire Council in 1922
and remained a councillor until his death,
being president 1931-32, 1946-47, 1957-58 and 1966-67.
He was prominent in the community, both as a sportsman and as a pastoralist.
He married Elspeth Anne Cameron on 20 February 1924 at Ross, Tasmania.
Fisken retired from parliament in 1937, stating that
he wished to focus on his appointment as
chairman of the Australian Meat Board.
His grandson is
Liberal Senator Michael Ronaldson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Fisken
...and sorry, 'they' have REMOVED KEY Images again, but these,
from 2008 & 2009, are examples of what
REAL, CURRENT CONNECTIONS, IN THE REAL WORLD,
'they' have and continue to ignore...
while PROMOTING 'themselves' "AS GODS"...
Quote:
cori
Will your awkward obsession with me ever stop, Jealousily?
Yep, those 'KRAFTY KRAUTS'
invent an excuse to make a FALSE 'Israel',
with their JEW SLAUGHTER,
then jump on the RAT LINE to CONTINUE Their EVILS
PROMOTING America as 'The Land',
while quietly continuing to TAKE OVER THE REAL ZION,
by Stealth...
Kraft consumes Cadbury
as Brown warns no
UK job cuts
19/01 20:00 CET
Food
http://www.euronews.net/2010/01/19/k...o-uk-job-cuts/
...oh, and also ask yourselves WHY, after years of
highlighting the SMART INVESTMENTS that 'experts'
advise AGAINST, that cori could NEVER acknowledge
my posts, other than to spit vile, hate filled, bitter,
BALD FACED LIES about my character, AND ASK FOR
ME TO BE BEATEN, AGAIN...IF, "cori" does want The,
TRUE FUTURE NEWS, 'Out There'...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...p?p=1058301387
____________________________________________________
Will you ever stop believing
"YOU" ARE The "CORE" of ALL Things GERMANIC
and CONTROL THE WHOLE WORLD and
ALL LANGUAGES...I'm posting about what NONE
of "Your Team" DARE post and
ALWAYS FLOOD OVER when I DO...
The DIRECT, ACTUAL Connection between
KRAFT, VEGEMITE, WAR, BALLARAT and MY HOME
in YENDON, ex East BUNINYONG=CANAAN,
as REVEALED through GOD'S Word and
THE OLDEST LANGUAGES of Australian Natives,
the Oldest Peoples who's History of CREATION
FITS GENESIS.
yes, that's right, reminding folk of yet more
FUTURE NEWS, it HELPS People to KNOW in Advance,
what "you"/"they" BURY, under more CODED MESSAGES
TO "Lone Nutters" to go out on SLAUGHTER Sprees.
Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...
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true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:
09-12-2009, 12:39 PM #1069
Quote:
AND EVEN MORE on this page, again, fobbed off as meaningless
Originally Posted by vera susa
Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...
sorry, my google earth won't work...
but it does remind me of an EVIL thought I had
during my HARASSMENT last night...
TATTOOS are Coded Language to...
remember how NAZIS made Lamp Shades
out of HUMAN TATTOOED SKINS...
Ilse Koch
The Bitch of Buchenwald
[loose translation of camp-era nickname
"Hexe"=witch,
used by English press during trial]
This is a picture of a lampshade ...
The drawing is a tattoo that was on the man's chest.
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/...women/ilse.htm
imagine if BABY FUCKERS/TRADERS
were NOT ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE ANY MORE....
evil owl tattoo
Bam's tatt of his google eyed, mumbling,
convicted pedophile uncle Don Vito...
http://forum.tattootattoo.info/index...opic,20.0.html
OUT! OUT! DAMN SPOT...
before you're spotted
and it's too late to turn around
by the popular and powerful...and YOU NOW what MEANS!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...1956&page=1698
BTW, 'spot' didn't get out in time...
stayed and stole even more from me,
and now is being 'eaten alive' by the
WITCHES HE GROVELS TO IN FEAR...
BACK IN BLACK...
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
The only lies you show, 'el kabong', are your own,
and they are confirmed to be lies (even with/because of
your desperate hacking of my posts and your, so called,
"quotes"), not refuted:
the fearful desperation of "tintin", "cori" and Co:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2995
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2994
wow, and the links dixie added to that post...hint:
it does pay to read them them all, from top to bottom,
and deeper within...it's amazing graceful, what one can find...
"The Israelites"
Rivers of Babylon
UK number one single (Boney M version)
13 May 1978 - 10 June 1978
(my 17th birthday;
just after I first arrived in Sydney )
By the rivers of Babylon,
there we sat down, yea, we wept,
when we remembered Zion...
For there they that carried us away captive
required of us a song...
How shall we sing the LORD's song
in a strange land?
Let the words of my mouth,
and the meditation of my heart,
be acceptable in thy sight...
Psalm 19:14
It is one of a few pop songs whose lyrics
come directly from the Bible
(See also Turn! Turn! Turn! by Pete Seeger
and The Lord's Prayer by Sister Janet Mead).
...and yes,
I also remember seeing this movie,
and like those songs,
SEEING and HEARING
GOD'S LOVING and WARNING WORD ,
and the mockery of GOD and HIS PROMISES,
that others did .
and they are confirmed to be lies (even with/because of
your desperate hacking of my posts and your, so called,
"quotes"), not refuted:
true lilly wrote:Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?
...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia
Note: Israel is shown in blue.
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...
The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.
These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.
Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH, STABLE LAND...
UNlike ...
...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...
...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
dixie d, for this wonderfully timed post, in reply totrue lilly wrote:So, 'el kabong' as you so luuvvv to mis-use the fairy-tale's of men,
to sell the deadly lies of your 'god'...again and again and again,
all over the bloody World Wide Web of Deception, I shall re-post
a few short posts here, to go just a little way towards redressing
the imbalance of how those fairy-tale's are used:At the risk of having you lot go off again, with false claims of,Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:UPDATE:
It's not a mother,it's an 18 year old girl/teeny lady.The police suspect,but
not confirming,that someone entered the premises and attached the
device to her,It goes around the neck (Necklacing) and to another device
around the waist.They have'nt figured out the trigger mechanism,
but she's alone,with the police and everyone else in the family is safe.
Criminal muslim elements suspected,but not confirmed.
It's a suspected extortion. Money. All about money, the usual motive.
But thanks, for letting me know, (via text), that you wanted me to know,
of another 'necklacing'.
Speaking of money;
do you know that what "tintin" sent
his other dumb bunny
(to stick around and try to finish me off),
was only what he would regularly 'tip'
when eating out (most meals),
around $AUS 1000.00 a pop, give or take a few 100;
roughly $AUS6600.00 all up.
Sad thing is, he (the dumb bunny),
claimed to have wanted a simple, family life,
and he could have had that, he knew and admitted it often,
but chose to believe, he would be, 'better rewarded'
by destroying me for 'them'.
That dumb bunny has since lost,
well, just about everything...house, land, super...
And that's what happens
when you give your balls to women to crush,
instead of having the balls to be a man for your woman.
Oh and, you did see "tintin's" Maserati, that he boasts of driving,
and you are aware of his Jet Setting, International,
Opera going life style?
Simply pointing out why I call his dumb bunnies, dumb bunnies.
He 'funds' them with his waiters tips,
and they believe he's 'invested' in 'looking after them',
after the shit, misses the fan, and gets dumped straight on
his dumb bunnies.
So do you get it yet?
Why tintin, literally throwing thousands of Euros at me
to buy a washing machine, while telling me,
I was 'too important to be wasting my time and brain'
(doing the laundry by hand a 4 in the morning),
had me gather them all back up, hand them back,
and remind him he was a guest,
not some, on-line sting...CAN you get it?
I don't find shame in honest work.
I'm happy to do productive work.
And as all the productive work I do around my home, gets destroyed,
I take solace in doing work for others, that won't get undone.
And if I'm offered payment, I want no more than the job was worth.
Likewise, if a job is done for me, and I feel they ask too little,
I'll at least top it up with bountiful praise in the the ears of others,
if not also a cuppa, beer, good feed or whatever else I can honestly offer.
See, Freedom, to me,
is not money, but not being indebted in such a way
that I can't say, 'No', if asked to cross a line,
that would make me someone I'm not.
And, contrary to sod's advice,
I am not someone who "makes contacts".
Granted, there are those who's position requires them
to make and maintain diplomatic associations,
but not being such a one, it's all the more reason
I don't abuse my friendships with such people,
by expecting or asking 'favours' of them...
let alone envying the wealth or positions they hold,
that without fail, draws countless user 'friends'.
In such 'unbalanced' relationships, all I do have to offer
to redress the balance, is a genuine friendship;
one that, 'cares for', not, 'takes from'....
...and why I'm bothering to give a dissertation
on the acts and attitudes that constitute a friendship,
to this audience ,
well, I can't even recall how I got onto the topic...but I did, and
it's an important topic, so I'll leave it here for others to
ponder...and even challenge me on if they feel the need.
...ah, that's right,
"tintin",the champion of false friendship:
Too poor in spirit, to 'buy' one little woman
with so little of what the worldly desire,
that even the povs mock her;
'mean' enough to go to the expense and trouble of
dropping the threat of, a 'burning necklace', on her,
for caring to show him,
the blessings of the repentant and faithful.
Surely, there must be some out there, who can see that;
a job with a car and fuel card, is not worth the job of,
being a false friend of good people,
for, that false friend, "tintin".
Ok,this is long and you're wanting me to comment on events I've only heard one
side of,let alone,I'm not personally involved with Tintin to be sound of
judgement,but hell,saying you're to important to do hand washing in the
morning and buys a washing machine for you,that's a pretty nice
thing,look,people hurt people,are you sure it's Tintin and not someone
closer to home.
I'll mod this post later,when I sufficiently wake up,have'nt even had a tea yet....just a cigarette.
"'me', making it 'about me'", when that's what all of you keep doing ,
I will again state, that yes, I do know just how very 'close to home', my attackers are,
and of their International NETworking Partners.
Do you really think I wasn't aware of why my ex, suddenly, had to, fly to Sydney,
before "tintin" flew in; and even lent me his car to drive "tintin" around, something
he would never do when our, HIS and My, kids, NEEDED me to drive for them,
and he was too busy NETworking to care to bother to help them himself?
The husband who was 'chosen' by those even closer, to claim to share my faith,
to ensure my future family would suffer, for having a mother who loves, and
can't blame or deny God.
And that is, The 'class', of people my on-line attackers, serve...a very, very sad truth,
that may yet have some redeeming value, if any of those family members, stop fighting
The Creator God (by attacking those who love Him), and accept The Amazing Grace with which the Truly Repentant Are BLESSED.Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,
And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?
That's sad to me.
But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.
Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.
REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.
ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.
2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.
7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].
10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’
15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”
17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.
23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word )
P.S.
constantly repeating your same, proven lies, in other threads, without
showing my detailed posts that prove you to be a very bad liar, then
attacking me for replying with those detailed posts (to only a few of, your spammed,
filthy, lying posts), for 'spamming' , is stupid. It shows you to be far too panicked
and desperate, to possess any credibility, what so ever.
P.S. besides which, as I'm constantly required to,
manually, go back to the same post, over and over again,
to re-re-re-fix the format to make it legible again
(as I am doing, again, in this edit ),
any attempt to actually 'spam' (which I don't do),
is made impossible for me, even if I wanted to
the fearful desperation of "tintin", "cori" and Co:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2995
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2994
dixie d wrote:04-08-2011, 05:31 AM #29942
Any links to Cube (film)
I'm also wondering if there might be a link from this article...
UK police seize record £300mn cocaine haul and also a link to Bacardi Rum
Quote:
I'd also expect a link to Pepsi
Facund Bacardí i Massó, a Catalan wine merchant, was born in Sitges, Catalonia, (Spain) in 1814, and emigrated to Cuba in 1830.
I notice on the Pepsi wiki page it mentions...
Quote:
Black or White
"Billie Jean", "Bad" and "Black or White". "Black of White"'s was promoting the Dangerous World Tour.)
Quote:
In the Roman calendar, November is the 9th month, and the 9th month in the Gregorian calendar is September.
The song was released by Epic Records on November 11, 1991
So, I'd also expect a link to Rimping
Funny thing, I was just looking at a verse in the Bible, Genisis 4 verse 17, which says the following...
Quote:
On the Black and White wiki page I noticed Get Back and on that page you see the following...
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he
builded a city, and called the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Quote:
I also wonder if there might be a link to Rivers of Babylon
Around the time he was developing the lyrics to "Get Back",
McCartney satirised the "Rivers of Blood speech" by former British
Cabinet minister Enoch Powell in a brief
jam that has become known as the "Commonwealth Song". The lyrics
included a line "You'd better get back to your Commonwealth homes". The
group improvised various temporary lyrics for "Get Back" leading to what
has become known in Beatles' folklore as the "No Pakistanis"
version.[9] This version is more racially charged, and addresses
attitudes toward immigrants in America and Britain: "...don't need no
Puerto Ricans living in the USA"; and "don't dig no Pakistanis taking
all the people's jobs".[10] In an interview in Playboy magazine in 1980,
Lennon described it as "...a better version of 'Lady Madonna'. You
know, a potboiler rewrite."[11]
So, I'm not sure what all that means.
Last edited by dixie d; 04-08-2011 at 06:40 AM.
wow, and the links dixie added to that post...hint:
it does pay to read them them all, from top to bottom,
and deeper within...it's amazing graceful, what one can find...
"The Israelites"
Rivers of Babylon
UK number one single (Boney M version)
13 May 1978 - 10 June 1978
(my 17th birthday;
just after I first arrived in Sydney )
By the rivers of Babylon,
there we sat down, yea, we wept,
when we remembered Zion...
For there they that carried us away captive
required of us a song...
How shall we sing the LORD's song
in a strange land?
Let the words of my mouth,
and the meditation of my heart,
be acceptable in thy sight...
Psalm 19:14
It is one of a few pop songs whose lyrics
come directly from the Bible
(See also Turn! Turn! Turn! by Pete Seeger
and The Lord's Prayer by Sister Janet Mead).
...and yes,
I also remember seeing this movie,
and like those songs,
SEEING and HEARING
GOD'S LOVING and WARNING WORD ,
and the mockery of GOD and HIS PROMISES,
that others did .
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
And I see 'you' have been busy, REMOVING KEY POSTS,
that SHOW why "el kabong" is OBSESSED with posting,
'histories', based ONLY on the DE-BUNKED, WAY TOO SHORT,
DENYING & IGNORING GOD'S WORD FROM THE BEGINNING
that DESCRIBES THE WHOLE WORLD, FROM THE BEGINNING,
"out of Egypy" "time-line" 'archeology' ...
that SHOW why "el kabong" is OBSESSED with posting,
'histories', based ONLY on the DE-BUNKED, WAY TOO SHORT,
DENYING & IGNORING GOD'S WORD FROM THE BEGINNING
that DESCRIBES THE WHOLE WORLD, FROM THE BEGINNING,
"out of Egypy" "time-line" 'archeology' ...
true lilly wrote:...oh please, give it up...yes, I still get hit on by men much younger...Billy Ruben wrote:I was hoping you'd have a laugh Lilly,you get so
much attention,and you're a severely non touch play around type
girl.That picture El Kabong posted definitely was'nt you,I mean,you
describe yourself as a little old lady,...You're only 50-51...Have you
heard of hot milf...No,I spose you have'nt...
Hmmmmmm,or was he
refering to a picture you used as a fund raiser and was pissed off to
find you were'nt the advertised material...?
no, I don't take up the offers...and..."I" am NOT The Topic...
...THIS IS...true lilly wrote:Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,
And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?
That's sad to me.
But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.
Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.
REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.
ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.
2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.
7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].
10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’
15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”
17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.
23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word )That's why,cori wrote:
The friggon freemasons own this planet.
I'm just not the Godloving type.
(unlike GOD'S FAITHFUL,
HIDDEN amongst those
YOU SO BITTERLY ENVY),
YOU ARE the
DEATH LOVING type
who HATES,
WISDOM and LIFE.
Psalms 5:1-12
To the director for Ne´hi·loth.
A melody of David.
1
To my sayings do give ear, O Jehovah;
Do understand my sighing.
2
Do pay attention to the sound of my cry for help,
O my King and my God, because to you I pray.
3
O Jehovah, in the morning you will hear my voice;
In the morning I shall address myself to you and be on the watch.
4
For you are not a God taking delight in wickedness;
No one bad may reside for any time with you.
5
No boasters may take their stand in front of your eyes.
You do hate all those practicing what is hurtful;
6
You will destroy those speaking a lie.
A man of bloodshed and deception Jehovah detests.
7
As for me, in the abundance of your loving-kindness
I shall come into your house,
I shall bow down toward your holy temple in fear of you.
8
O Jehovah, lead me in your righteousness by reason of my foes;
Make your way smooth before me.
9
For in their mouth there is nothing trustworthy;
Their inward part is adversity indeed.
Their throat is an opened burial place;
A smooth tongue they use.
10
God will certainly hold them guilty;
They will fall due to their own counsels.
In the multitude of their transgressions let there be a dispersing of them,
Because they have rebelled against you.
11
But all those taking refuge in you will rejoice;
To time indefinite they will cry out joyfully.
And you will block approach to them,
And those loving your name will exult in you.
12
For you yourself will bless anyone righteous, O Jehovah;
As with a large shield, with approval you will surround them.
...read on:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#top
PROVERBS 1 & 2
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
The proverbs of Sol´o·mon the son of David, the king of Israel,
2
for one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding,
3
to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness,
4
to give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man knowledge and thinking ability.
5
A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man
of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction,
6to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7
The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.
8
Listen, my son, to the discipline of your father, and do not forsake the law of your mother.
9
For they are a wreath of attractiveness to your head and a fine necklace to your throat.
10
My son, if sinners try to seduce you, do not consent.
11
If they keep saying: “Do go with us. Do let us
lie in ambush for blood. Do let us lie in concealment for the innocent
men without any cause.
12
Let us swallow them down alive just like She´ol, even whole, like those going down into a pit.
13
Let us find all sorts of precious valuables. Let us fill our houses with spoil.
14
Your lot you ought to cast in among us. Let there come to be just one bag belonging to all of us”—
15
my son, do not go in the way with them. Hold back your foot from their roadway.
16
For their feet are those that run to sheer badness, and they keep hastening to shed blood. 17
For it is for nothing that the net is spread before the eyes of anything owning wings.
18
Consequently they themselves lie in ambush for the very blood of these; they lie in concealment for their souls.
19
Thus are the paths of everyone making unjust profit. It takes away the very soul of its owners.
20
True wisdom itself keeps crying aloud in the very street. In the public squares it keeps giving forth its voice.
21
At the upper end of the noisy streets it calls out. At the entrances of the gates into the city it says its own sayings:
22
“How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience,
and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright
ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge?
23
Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.
24
Because I have called out but YOU keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention,
25
and YOU keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof YOU have not accepted,
26
I also, for my part, shall laugh at YOUR own disaster, I shall mock when what YOU dread comes,
27
when what YOU dread comes just like a storm, and YOUR own
disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times
come upon YOU.
28
At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer;
they will keep looking for me, but they will not find me,
29
for the reason that they hated knowledge, and the fear of Jehovah they did not choose.
30
They did not consent to my counsel; they disrespected all my reproof.
31
So they will eat from the fruitage of their way, and they will be glutted with their own counsels.
32
For the renegading of the inexperienced ones is
what will kill them, and the easygoingness of the stupid is what will
destroy them.
33
As for the one listening to me, he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself,
2
so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment;
3
if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself,
4
if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it,
5
in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God.
6
For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
7
And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield,
8
by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones.
9
In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.
10
When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul,
11
thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you,
12
to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things,
13
from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness,
14
from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness; 15
those whose paths are crooked and who are devious in their general course;
16
to deliver you from the strange woman, from the foreign woman who has made her own sayings smooth,
17
who is leaving the confidential friend of her youth and who has forgotten the very covenant of her God.
18
For down to death her house does sink and down to those impotent in death her tracks.
19
None of those having relations with her will come back, nor will they regain the paths of those living.
20
The purpose is that you may walk in the way of good people and that the paths of the righteous ones you may keep.
21
For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
22
As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth;
and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.
PSALMS 119: 85 to 128
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85
PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.
...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,
may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...
NEHEMIAH 1, 2 & 3
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV
ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top
PROVERBS 4: 18, 19
But the path 734 of the just 6662
[is] as the shining 5051 light 216,
that shineth 215 more 1980 and
more unto the perfect 3559 day 3117.
The way 1870 of the wicked 7563
[is] as darkness 653:
they know 3045 not
at what they stumble 3782 .
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=18&t=KJV#top
Great Blue Hole, Coast of Belize
Royal anthem: God Save the Queen
sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-inca-secrets
...read and SEE...and...UNDERSTAND...
http://stonehengeguide.com/2011/04/29/sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-
inca-secrets/
...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html
PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...
Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...
Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina
...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
true lilly wrote:Why don't 'you' all attack 'el kabong' and All of Team Tintin
for ALWAYS, ALL OVER, ALL CONspiracy SITES and 'innocent'
forums, endlessly spamming the same old, long ago proven lies,
INTIMIDATION'S, DEATH THREATS and TERRORIST CODE?
Oh that's right, I get spammed and banned everywhere, because,
I am only one real person, with one old p.c., still standing,
against all odds, against The Global Legion of The Beast.
Interesting though, how many of 'you' on line 'enemies', unite
to preach all the failed religions of man and attack me for showing
what I find in God's Word and asking folk to study and test it,
for themselves.true lilly wrote:An interesting new poster
has appeared on "tintin's" thread...
...right after "yass" posted...
V
...we see...
...stormrider73
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Irkutsk, Siberia
Posts: 37
...who then posted...
...who I find an awful lot like...
...interesting to, that it is on the previous page:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2986
...that "tintin" and his team, start their
blatantly obvious DEFENCE of BREIVIK
and his fellow PUPPETS and HANDLERS
(including clearly marked locals), while
also starting their blatantly obvious call
for ALL OUT WAR AGAINST GOD'S, HOLY,
ETERNAL KINGDOM.
Many clearly angry, clearly foolish (for being
so clearly direct), orders follow...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2987
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2988
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2989
...though, despite knowing nothing of:
stormrider73...
...and not even being able to access,
"all posts by" them, they do seem to,
be hinting at a warning against loyalty,
to the inherently dis-loyal "tintin" and
his team...
..."Those people certainly know each other "
Last edited by stormrider73; 31-07-2011 at 05:09 AM.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2990true lilly wrote:true lilly wrote:
P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.GET OFF THE DRUGS. LEARN TO READ.el kabong wrote:true lilly wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Ok,
Hi Sweetie,
this
thread is as it's title says,you get asked a question,,please answer
without vaguequotes to TNBTN from years ago,,photos of unrelated
topics that just chew up my broadband allocation,straight up answers on
topic,if photographic evidence is to be given,like for example...a car
bombing,in a small country town,ahhh lets say Victoria
State,Australia,maybe town names are Ballarat or Arrarat,that'd be
great,not photos,of a woman parading a dog,that looked completely
different on a cheap mobile phone.
So there's the first question...can you do it???
So, 'your' LOSE/LOSE DEMAND of me is to:
RE-WRITE, FROM SCRATCH, 6 YEARS of work,
RE-ANSWERING 'your' 'questions' that 'you'
KEEP REJECTING AS "lies" WITH 'your' LIES
and NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS...let me think...
... ... ... 'you' HAVE MY NUMBER.
'YOU' CAN PERSONALLY QUIZ ME ANY TIME...oh that's right,
'you' ONLY RANG ME TO PREACH 'your/cori's' RELIGIOUS
FEAR OF DEMONIC STALKERS , "AT"!
soooooo........billyboy, does Gibberish count as a straight answer?
OR SIMPLY STOP LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH,
under YOUR DELUSION that EVERYONE IS AS STUPID
AND EVIL AS "YOU".true lilly wrote:Hey C. UNT...Africa is 'bigger' to...
...'you' SICK F. UCK...
...mmm...CHILLING CHOICE of
3 out of 3 LEAD IMAGE/REPORTS...
Mihag Gedi Farah is seven months old and weighs 3.4kg, about the average
weight of a newborn baby. Famine in Somalia has already killed tens of
thousands and the UN warns numbers will grow. Picture: AP
Read More
Ellie Paxton-Hall, the youngest MasterChef contestant, has been sent home
after last night's cooking challenge and will blog about her time on the
show from 12.30pm today.
Read More
A controversial child beauty pageant from the US starts in Melbourne
today. Do you think these events are child abuse? Debate Susie O'Brien
LIVE from noon today. Picture: Supplied
Read More
...but NOW, 'they' WILL simply point to the first image,
to 'excuse' BABIES BEING TREATED WORSE than the UNluckest
of Show Dogs that C. UNTS like GREENIE/ANIMAL LIBER
TERRORISTS, CAUSE TO BE KILLED, DUE TO THE LAWS
'they' DELIBERATELY INTRODUCE, under The LIE, "welfare".
THE SAME TERRORIST C. UNTS WHO DEFEND CHILD PORN
AND THE CHILD SEX TRADE 'as' "NEEDED" "FREE" "Artistic"
'luuvvving' "EXPRESSIONS".
Yep, it's getting bloody easy to find The Evil Damned
on CONspiracy Forums and All Over The WEB/NET of
FILTHY LIES THAT LEAD TO PERMANENT DEATH.true lilly wrote:And why act as if you don't know
the vast difference between
the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?true lilly wrote:'they' really do lack in creativity, when it comes to
inventing non-existent links to those 'they' ARE
PLOTTING AGAINST.
And insult the minds of EVERY reader.
So very soon after "dixie d's" posted links to
"CLEMENTINE" this fool tries to 'cover' one
poor excuse to post a CODED PLOT/THREAT,
with an even worse 'explanation' of 'reasoning'.
So poor, I thought maybe WIKIPEDIA had changed
facts with lies, AGAIN, but no.
And so, here it is; another VERY ANGRY,
VERY DIRECTLY THREATENING (to those
NOT DECEIVED by the 'smooth' words),post by:pri01 wrote:28-07-2011, 09:33 PM #29850
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninny
i thought to add this here, because this is pretty bizarre
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011...d-and-defaced/
Swagger's been on my mind recently because of this person.
cher lloyd.jpg
Cher Lloyd, was a hit with last year’s x factor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Lloyd
She got through the second round
though with a song that she apparently penned the lyrics to part of it. I
suspect she was coached in this because of the reference to Jerusalem
but can’t be fully sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jooLnnhTrbE
Her first single, or a song from her
new album called swagger jagger, the chorus follows the tune of the
Australian song ‘Oh my darling clementine’, a song related to the gold
rush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Darling,_Clementine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbyG2MrBHk&ob=av2e
May have something to do with the economy.
Maybe related to: the FACT Ballarat alone, produced more gold
than California, and that Australia's Foreign ENEMIES are so
BITTERLY JEALOUS of The Glorious Land Spiritual Israel Is Blessed With,
that 'they' slave to bring us the evils of 'their' insane WAR AGAINST GOD.
I'd say it also has A LOT to do with these posts that caused
"Billy Ruben & el kabong" to SPAM ALL MY THREADS with LIES &
WAY OFF TOPIC CATS & CRAP in a futile effort to make those
who matter, 'forget' THE NEWS that NONE of 'them' DARE to
cover in "TODAY'S NEWS" at DIF...true lilly wrote:cori wrote:
28-07-2011, 02:04 AM #29826
crosshairs
...and this was AFTER my OSLO/PORT ARTHUR WARNING post,
AFTER my AUSTRALIA in 'their' "crosshairs" WARNING post,
WHILE I was being blocked from David Icke's Official Forum.true lilly wrote:Could Google have caught the Norway killer?
Asher Moses
July 28, 2011
Click to play video
'More openness' will prevent attacks
Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg says that
Norwegians will defend themselves by showing they are not afraid of violence.
With all the data Google collects about us and our search
histories, could the company use its technical prowess to help catch
terrorists and mass murderers before they commit crimes?
Norwegian daily Dagbladet reported that
terrorist Anders Breivik spent 200 days searching Google for terms such
as "how to make a bomb" before he went on his rampage.
Already Google uses data from searches to improve its targeted advertising and search rankings - and even to track the spread of the flu - leading academic ideas site The Conversation to ask the question "Why didn't Google catch the Norway killer?"
Google searching is as helpful for terrorists as it is for the rest of us. Photo: Peter Riches
Speaking to the website, Charles Sturt University
computer science lecturer Craig Wright said he expected people in
European countries to call for search engines to monitor user behaviour
as a result of the attacks.
He said it "would be possible, but extremely difficult"
for Google to monitor searches and raise red flags for users who
frequently and repeatedly perform suspicious searches.
Wright's comments were prescient as in recent days politicians and police across Europe have called for expanded internet monitoring powers as a possible preventative measure.
The killer ... Anders Breivik, pictured on the internet.
"There may be moves towards greater monitoring, but less privacy for users," he said.
Already, Wright said, the Australian Federal Police and
the FBI could obtain court orders asking Google to monitor and flag
certain search terms.
Google can monitor or trace specific individuals via its Google accounts, IP addresses or even browser cookies.
Nigel Phair, a former Australian Federal Police officer
who is now a private security consultant, said real-time monitoring of
search queries would be a welcomed "additional intelligence tool for
national security agencies". Google could theoretically be a "good
citizen" and report users it has identified as potentially high risk.
However "you have to get over the privacy hurdles" first, which will be a significant barrier.
Futurist, inventor and judge on ABC's The New Inventors, Mark Pesce, said: "I suspect Chinese search engine Baidu does something like this for the Chinese government."
Professor Sanjay Chawla, head of the school of
information technology at the University of Sydney, is researching how
to make machines and algorithms learn and behave like humans do. For
instance, he is helping the insurance industry design technology to
distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent claims.
Professor Chawla said using Google to spot terrorists was
a tough technical challenge as "it's very hard to train computers or
design algorithms which can distinguish between a terrorist and a
non-terrorist".
"It could work but there will be lots of false positives and that can actually hurt Google more," he said.
"The number of terrorists is actually very small to create a
meaningful profile of what the average terrorist looks like."
In the case of targeted advertising, if Google's
algorithm got it wrong the worst outcome would be slightly reduced
profits. But when picking out terrorists there is a far lower tolerance
for errors.
And the idea of Google regularly monitoring search terms
without a court order would raise significant privacy issues.
"Yes, some kinds of automated monitoring would
occasionally produce a lead. But the leads would be swamped by the
massive false positives," said Roger Clarke, chairman of the Australian
Privacy Foundation.
"And the collateral damage to freedoms would be massive."
Danny Sullivan, editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land,
raised the point that searching for something - for example bomb making
instructions - wasn't the same as actually committing the criminal act.
And he also said that searching for mass murderers could be the thin edge of the wedge.
"Would it only look at things it believes are related to
mass murder? If you were searching for recreational drugs or pirated
content, should that be picked up and reported?" said Sullivan.
Of course, any real-time monitoring would be useless
without law enforcement using it to act. It has been reported that
Breivik was flagged for illegally purchasing a large amount of chemicals
online but Norway's intelligence service decided he was likely to be
using them in his farming business.
Mr Clarke said people with serious intent would find
plenty of ways to get around the monitoring, while the suggestion that
widespread real-time monitoring could enable real-time interventions by
law enforcement agencies was "fantasy land".
But Mr Clarke said he would support tightly targeted
monitoring of people based on reasonable grounds for suspicion and
judicial warrants.
Google Australia declined to comment.
This reporter is on Twitter: @ashermoses
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/could-google-have-caught-the-norway-killer-20110728-1i17r.html#ixzz1TMznHHqh
sorry, now that I got it to post, I won't waste time editing it back to legible...
only one of me on an out-dated, powerless p.c., against The World Wide WEB
of TERRORISTS...true lilly wrote:"TINTIN" THE BOASTFULLY SELF CONFESSING
"EXPERT IN PLANE CRASHES"...dixie d wrote: 26-07-2011, 11:26 PM #29807
I noticed two articles in the News today...
Morocco military plane crash kills 78
And...
Lockerbie bomber seen on TV rally
I notice the top article mentions Guelmin, and on that page you see the following...
Quote:
It is part of the Maghreb region, in addition to Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Libya, with which it shares cultural, historical and linguistic ties.
I wonder if there is a link to Mauritania
The name Guelmim reminds me of Gremlin
Quote:
A gremlin is an imaginary creature commonly depicted as mischievous and mechanically oriented, with a specific interest in aircraft.
Gremlins' mischevious natures are simliar to those of English folkloric
imps, while their inclination to damage or dismantle machinery is more
modern.
I'm not sure if there is a link, I'll take a look.
Last edited by dixie d; 26-07-2011 at 11:56 PM.
28 July 2011
Last updated at 01:13 GMT
132
Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet
crashes off South Korea
Debris was found at sea after the Asiana Airlines plane went down
Related Stories
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Both
pilots aboard a China-bound Boeing 747 cargo jet were killed when it
crashed off South Korea after experiencing mechanical problems.
The plane, which was flying for South Korea's Asiana
Airlines, came down off Jeju island in the very south of the country,
local media report.
It had left Incheon en route to Pudong in China.
A South Korean coast guard boat found debris from the jet
in waters about 107km (66 miles) west of Jeju city.
After taking off at 0305 (1800 GMT) the plane disappeared
from radar at 0409 while trying to reach Jeju airport, the South Korean
news agency Yonhap reports. The wreckage was spotted at 0640.
Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed.
Heavy rain has lashed South Korea this week, with landslides
and floods killing dozens and causing havoc, but Asiana Airlines said it
was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.
The 747, nicknamed the Jumbo Jet, has been in service around the world
for more than four decades, and is still in production.
A Disney-style Gremlin, as the mascot of Minnesota Wing Civil Air Patrol
A gremlin is an imaginary creature
commonly depicted as mischievous
and mechanically oriented,
with a specific interest in aircraft.
The term "gremlin"
denoting a mischievous creature
that sabotages aircraft,
originates in Royal Air Force (RAF)
slang in the 1920s among the British pilots
stationed in Malta, the Middle East and India,
with the earliest recorded printed use being
in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane,
in Malta on April 10, 1929...
...with later recollections of it having been told
by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots
as early as 1940.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
714 747
GREMLIN JUMBO
EMERALD OZ
MITSRAYIM AMERICAS
...and THIS, REALLY GOT 'their' GOAT...P.S. I ANSWERED the CRAP 'you' spout 'el kabong',true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.
Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.
And why act as if you don't know the vast difference
between the carrying capacity of, STABLE, ARABLE,
WELL WATERED, LIVABLE, RICH LAND & SEAS,
and
VOLCANO, EARTHQUAKE, LANDSLIDE,
SAND & ICE DESERT RIDDLED lands,
full of wars over forever disputed and
shifting borders?
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
Isa 22:20
And it shall come to pass in that day 3117,
that I will call 7121 my servant 5650 Eliakim 471
the son 1121 of Hilkiah 2518:
Isa 22:21
And I will clothe 3847 him with thy robe 3801,
and strengthen 2388 him with thy girdle 73,
and I will commit 5414 thy government 4475
into his hand 3027: and he shall be a father 1
to the inhabitants 3427 of Jerusalem 3389,
and to the house 1004 of Judah 3063.
Isa 22:22
And the key 4668 of the house 1004 of David 1732
will I lay 5414 upon his shoulder 7926;
so he shall open 6605, and none shall shut 5462;
and he shall shut 5462, and none shall open 6605.
Rev 3:7
And 2532 to the angel 32 of the church 1577 in 1722
Philadelphia 5359 write 1125;
These things 3592 saith 3004 he that is holy 40,
he that is true 228, he that hath 2192 the key 2807
of David 1138, he that openeth 455, and 2532
no man 3762 shutteth 2808; and 2532 shutteth 2808,
and 2532 no man 3762 openeth 455;true lilly wrote:Do you see what I see?
Do you wonder why it was done?
Artificial color image
of the Double Helix Nebula,
thought to be generated at the
galactic center by magnetic torsion
1000 times greater than the sun's.
Yep, a STAR of DAVID
circled by 12 more
POINTS of LIGHT.
And if you click on to the full sized image, also...
The Tudor rose
is used as the plant badge of
England.
London 2012 Olympics:
medal designs unveiled
MORE here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8665946/London-2012-Olympics-medal-designs-unveiled.html
Now why would a world full of
CONspiracy 'sleuths' keep avoiding,
the topic of the "O" in ZION
(in The Centre of this circle
representing The World),
looking just like OZ, O'ZION,
AUSTRALIA,
even with the 'dot' of the "I" there
for little Tasmania?
Could it be for the same reason 'they' also
keep avoiding the topic of who Australia
can thank for BOOMING while the rest of
the world, is crashing?
Moreover, thou son 1121 of man 120,
take 3947 thee one 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Judah 3063,
and for the children 1121 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
then take 3947 another 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Joseph 3130,
the stick 6086 of Ephraim 669,
and [for] all the house 1004 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
And join 7126 them one 259 to another 259
into one 259 stick 6086;
and they shall become one 259
in thine hand 3027.
Moreover I will make 3772
a covenant 1285 of peace 7965 with them;
it shall be an everlasting 5769 covenant 1285
with them: and I will place 5414 them,
and multiply 7235 them, and will set 5414
my sanctuary 4720 in the midst 8432 of them
for evermore 5769.
My tabernacle 4908 also shall be with them:
yea, I will be their God 430,
and they shall be my people 5971.
And the heathen 1471 shall know 3045
that I the LORD 3068 do sanctify 6942 Israel 3478,
when my sanctuary 4720 shall be in the midst 8432
of them for evermore 5769.
Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=37&v=1&t=KJV#top
way back in my ATS days, throughout others sites
I was banned from when 'they' could NOT counter my answers,
and NEVER ANSWERED MY KEY QUESTIONS.
Which is why I don't even bother re-reading it now.
'You' can't recognize this, 'Billy', because it is a detailed reply to 'your'
false accusations made in lieu of any of 'you' answering any of my
Key Questions, while spamming all my threads with the same old
preaching of mans failed religions, then crying foul at my contextual
information with links for readers to check the sources and follow up
with their own, free thinking, study...something 'you mob' avoid like
the plague and, bitterly curse and attack anyone for daring to do.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
true lilly wrote:Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"...
CURSE JUDAH and BE CURSED.
Well,
GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...
and YOU, KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!
Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...
...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...
...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...
(ah, found it elsewhere )
SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!...?
...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...
Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia
Note: Israel is shown in blue.
Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?
In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...
The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.
These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.
Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH, STABLE LAND...and SEE,
so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...
YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...
...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...
It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...
...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE
Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.
LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA
National Library of Australia Home > News & Events
A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898
LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...
https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E
Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.
It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.
It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made, according the US space agency NASA .
For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.
NASA noted that Australia
was the flattest continent in the world.
"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic or other geologic forces
of the type that raise the topography of other continents.
"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,
the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world, covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.
...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...and RE-PLANT...and...
COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...
...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...
DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...
Revelation 22:1-21
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.
8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.
11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...
to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:
the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...
YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
THE MISSING BIT:dixie d wrote:
06-08-2011, 02:30 PM #30011yass wrote:yass
You're right it very much has that
affect with the arm and probably intended. I first magnified the pic
and couldn't help but notice that very curved nose, very defined.
Good call.dixie d wrote:
06-08-2011, 02:40 PM #30013
Only a thought, but which calendar are you using, that's if it makes a difference of course.
I was referring to calculations for Elenin comet. I doubt they
Originally Posted by yass
Dixie, calendar, me, you serious? I click on the time icon at the bottom right of my computer screen for my calendar needs.
would have be using the Gregorian Calender in those days, that was all I
was referring to.
The trouble with these forums, is that when you reply to some posts, half the post is missing.
Last edited by dixie d; 06-08-2011 at 02:45 PM.
ninny wrote:
WAR OF THE WORLDS
i would associate this:
11/9/11
link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856
ninny wrote:
You're right it very much has that affect with the arm and
Originally Posted by ninny
yes, looks a little bit disabled. not a good photograph.
reminds me of greek statues:
probably intended. I first magnified the pic and couldn't help but
notice that very curved nose, very defined.
Quote:
Good call.
Originally Posted by ninny
This radio reporter and UFO and million listeners, I think that was a hoax.
because this reminds me of:
WAR OF THE WORLDS
i would associate this:
11/9/11
link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.
Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do ),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,
cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin"; Cori,
Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
true lilly wrote:THE MISSING BIT:dixie d wrote:
06-08-2011, 02:30 PM #30011yass wrote:yass
You're right it very much has that
affect with the arm and probably intended. I first magnified the pic
and couldn't help but notice that very curved nose, very defined.
Good call.dixie d wrote:
06-08-2011, 02:40 PM #30013
Only a thought, but which calendar are you using, that's if it makes a difference of course.
Originally Posted by yass
Dixie, calendar, me, you serious? I click on the time icon at the bottom right of my computer screen for my calendar needs.
I was referring to calculations for Elenin comet. I doubt they
would have be using the Gregorian Calender in those days, that was all I
was referring to.
The trouble with these forums, is that when you reply to some posts,
half the post is missing.
Last edited by dixie d; 06-08-2011 at 02:45 PM.ninny wrote:
WAR OF THE WORLDS
i would associate this:
11/9/11
link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856ninny wrote:You're right it very much has that affect with the arm and
Originally Posted by ninny
yes, looks a little bit disabled. not a good photograph.
reminds me of greek statues:
probably intended. I first magnified the pic and couldn't help but
notice that very curved nose, very defined.
Quote:Good call.
Originally Posted by ninny
This radio reporter and UFO and million listeners, I think that was a hoax.
because this reminds me of:
WAR OF THE WORLDS
i would associate this:
11/9/11
link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856
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IGNORING ALL THESE
cori
yassninny
TRAITOROUS, CODED ORDER posting,
WAR MONGERING, "date", number & letter TWISTING WOmen
that post with "tintin", would be wise...lest you want to be caught
with "them" in the DRAGNET of "their" own NET.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.
Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do ),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,
cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &.. ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.
P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.
P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
P.P.P.S.
BREIVIK, ASSANGE, WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia, DAVID ICKE,
i_am,
"Team tintin";
Cori, Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, WW, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus, list NOT exhaustive.
what is eating you old lady?
We text each other on the phone the other day,you seem alright and for once,coherant,you were nice,now you have a meltdown and even start a thread with this shit,if we are on ignore,so be it,don't announce it,just do it...
You are a silly old bat,chuckling away,who and how to annoy next,farkin have'nt grown up out of kindergarden level of expressing desire for another guy,you still pinch and punch,you have'nt progressed,.Sposed to be a developed grounded woman that knows what she wants,it's not all two dogs fucking...
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
'Billy Ruben', READ, WITH COMPREHENSION.
I was advising those who, like myself, can't be fagged
endlessly scrolling through the same old religious BS
that most of the world is at war over, particularly when,
like myself, they too have to put up with old, slow and
hacked to near death, electronic communication devices.
Are 'you' really that incapable of thinking of the needs
of strangers?
...anyway...
aww, how... childish...took 'yourself' off my ignore list...
and what a way to make my points...like that:
threads don't end at No. 68;
'you' mob are always hacking my posts;
YOU HAVE NO COUNTER ARGUMENT
TO THE TRUTH I FREELY OFFER...etc. ...
Ah, I was ready for ya...but 'you', as usual, are not ready for
a 'direct dose' of The Honest Answers...so 'you' will have to,
actually, read, explore, find and consider the answers to, The
Question, buried (as 'you' like it ), within:
LOTS (all?), of the answers are to be found in
the link in this post, which leads to many more links, with
many more answers, that so very few seem to dare to
ask the questions of, if they even think to questions the
damnable answers, that the majority blindly accept and that
so greatly offend me.
But 'you' will continue to 'make it about me', by continuing
to complain about my giving:
'too much'/'too little' information;
'of my own'/'not of my own' words or experience;
'too cutting'/'too soft' a tone;
'too well spoken'/'too uneducated' use of language;
and well, every bit of the standard Social Manipulation tools
that WEB/NET Forums were designed and foisted upon us,
to hammer, the living spirit, out of the world with...while also,
'sifting and sorting' 'the gold from the dross'.
So drink!
It's medicine; tastes like shit, but it'll cure what ails ya!
Oh, and I probably should mention that I did notice;
WARKAVE also reads as WARK AVE.
A 'particular' address I once shared with a key 'tool'
of The Legion...many, many, (Very 'Educating'), moons ago...
...a reply to an, 'el kabong' implied threat, of a post,
intended to distract me from my task, with fear of 'them' :
...a 'useful' idiot...'how' else do 'you' want me to 'find' 'you'?
'you' aren't really giving me any better options to choose from.
See, "and another thing", below.
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
...and another thing...
WHERE IS "THAT" Post in which I comprehensively answered
'el kabong's' SPAMMED LIE that, "I" claimed, Australia to be
'bigger' than other continents?
Not only was that, usual type of 'spin and twist', 'put to' the actual
content, context and message of my posts, clearly false, but it inspired me
to drop a few more HOME TRUTHS as to what sort of bitterly sick, twisted
creatures are obsessed with attacking those who have a giving heart...
...was that what did it; the likely, 'little penis/sloppy vagina', explanation
for 'el kabong's' obsession with "size"?
Surely the extra weight I added to the case I've been making, wouldn't
have caused the deletion of what I've shown and explained to so many,
for so long, as that is all still out there in the public domain...yep, must
have really stung that misplaced personal pride , I reckon...
...and I'm only one little old woman...btw, I watched,
'The COHAN BROTHERS', "TRUE GRIT", this morning,
and I bet 'you' mob get that all arse about to
I was advising those who, like myself, can't be fagged
endlessly scrolling through the same old religious BS
that most of the world is at war over, particularly when,
like myself, they too have to put up with old, slow and
hacked to near death, electronic communication devices.
Are 'you' really that incapable of thinking of the needs
of strangers?
...anyway...
aww, how... childish...took 'yourself' off my ignore list...
and what a way to make my points...like that:
threads don't end at No. 68;
'you' mob are always hacking my posts;
YOU HAVE NO COUNTER ARGUMENT
TO THE TRUTH I FREELY OFFER...etc. ...
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:
and 'the rest of you'...17/06/2007
eBay sent this message to Suzy Ryan (warkave).
Dear warkave,
In response to your request to be reminded of your eBay User ID,
please find below the information we have on file for you.
If you didn't submit this request, ignore this email.
Your User ID is: warkave
Your registered email address is: suzyryan@gmail.com
...THIS: "suzyryan@gmail", is NOT ME,
but MY 'gmail' EMAIL HIGHJACKER...
and I see 'another' REMOVED THEMSELVES
from 'my contacts' ...after the last email I sent 'them' ...
...and as for "OCTOPUSRED" (and the varients on 'that name'),
like "ROBIN" "from MEXICO"...........mmm.......
Remember, 'artistic' and CREATIVE are NOT the same thing;
'those' AT WAR against THE CREATOR, are all but devoid of
creativity, but simply, steal, take and break what has been
created, and re-form it into sick, sad, ugly and bad...and being
addicted to LIES, need simple to remember themes of, 'which'
'name' 'they' speak under-cover-of, to whom.
P.S. when David was hated and hunted by Saul, and hiding in caves,
though Saul wanted to kill David, David could have killed Saul, but
WOULD NOT, instead he left him a REMINDER of, his grace Born of
his Faithfulness to God, and so, also the King...but Saul still REJECTED
that, The Holy Spirit...and we know how that story pans out...
P.P.S. well I have always warned folk to, "pay attention to
what is NOT said"...and that I also trust TIMING to God...
...and I did post a lot on "The Kricket Wars"...
...yeah, hard to tell what it is, IN 'black & white",
but danged if it don't look like,
a poor school's, old, leather cased,
bashed to death, cricket ball...
that I suppose mostly only 'old boy's'
would be, 'put in remembrance of'...
octopusrex...and oh, what Google gives you,
in WEB and IMAGES, when searching:
"octopusrex avatar david icke"...
...well that was the first Image, from here;
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1060088436
...The posted message is too long....
...well, an awful lot shorter than most of 'el kabong's' mouldy old spam,
and many of my reminders of The Taboo Topics, but we'll play along nicely,
shall we seems not ...and so if this is STILL "too long"...mmm...
...part 2, 3, 4, whatever it takes to come...
True Lilly,if you think "Octopusrex has significanc"...then you're mad as a hatter,he's another bloody looney,who,has "sympathies for child molesters and Space Nazi Reptiles..."
Ah, I was ready for ya...but 'you', as usual, are not ready for
a 'direct dose' of The Honest Answers...so 'you' will have to,
actually, read, explore, find and consider the answers to, The
Question, buried (as 'you' like it ), within:
LOTS (all?), of the answers are to be found in
the link in this post, which leads to many more links, with
many more answers, that so very few seem to dare to
ask the questions of, if they even think to questions the
damnable answers, that the majority blindly accept and that
so greatly offend me.
But 'you' will continue to 'make it about me', by continuing
to complain about my giving:
'too much'/'too little' information;
'of my own'/'not of my own' words or experience;
'too cutting'/'too soft' a tone;
'too well spoken'/'too uneducated' use of language;
and well, every bit of the standard Social Manipulation tools
that WEB/NET Forums were designed and foisted upon us,
to hammer, the living spirit, out of the world with...while also,
'sifting and sorting' 'the gold from the dross'.
So drink!
It's medicine; tastes like shit, but it'll cure what ails ya!
Oh, and I probably should mention that I did notice;
WARKAVE also reads as WARK AVE.
A 'particular' address I once shared with a key 'tool'
of The Legion...many, many, (Very 'Educating'), moons ago...
...a reply to an, 'el kabong' implied threat, of a post,
intended to distract me from my task, with fear of 'them' :
...a 'useful' idiot...'how' else do 'you' want me to 'find' 'you'?
'you' aren't really giving me any better options to choose from.
See, "and another thing", below.
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
hey, not my fault 'they'/'you' keep digging pitsBilly Ruben wrote:Oh well,the thread lasted four post,before
being,spammed,de-railed,with off topic spam of Ankara,then the tirade of
abuse and indignity expressed in reaction to such heinous acts...
amongst all the snares and traps 'you'/'they' lay...
...then trip, fall in, hanging underwater,
being eaten alive by the sharks 'you'/'they'
stock the water supply with...
...in fact, I am, the one,
who cared to warn all against
such suicidally murderous folly...
true lilly wrote:WAR CAVE: warkave:
and 'the rest of you'...
WAR CAVE: warkave: and 'the rest of you'...
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1237-war-cave-warkave-and-the-rest-of-you#18568
...as to any real,
independent people who may stumble in here:
Why SOME HERE keep posting the same,
Unsubstantiated=PROVEN LIES,
as to, what and why, I post, what and how, I do;
IF 'they' read, and COULD UNDERSTAND,
the added, extra weight, to The Truth of God's Word,
when other posts are quoted, IN CONTEXT to RELATED Topics,
well, 'they' would not be YOUR ENEMY'S TO!
...but nah,
the dergs are too busy hacking my posts,
to read them
...and another thing...
WHERE IS "THAT" Post in which I comprehensively answered
'el kabong's' SPAMMED LIE that, "I" claimed, Australia to be
'bigger' than other continents?
Not only was that, usual type of 'spin and twist', 'put to' the actual
content, context and message of my posts, clearly false, but it inspired me
to drop a few more HOME TRUTHS as to what sort of bitterly sick, twisted
creatures are obsessed with attacking those who have a giving heart...
...was that what did it; the likely, 'little penis/sloppy vagina', explanation
for 'el kabong's' obsession with "size"?
Surely the extra weight I added to the case I've been making, wouldn't
have caused the deletion of what I've shown and explained to so many,
for so long, as that is all still out there in the public domain...yep, must
have really stung that misplaced personal pride , I reckon...
...and I'm only one little old woman...btw, I watched,
'The COHAN BROTHERS', "TRUE GRIT", this morning,
and I bet 'you' mob get that all arse about to
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Lilly, when you superimpose SOME of the European Countries on the map of Australia, you are being deceptive. You leave out Russia. Look at your Avatar, you have superimposed only PART of Europe. You are a deceiver.
Europe is a LARGER Continent the nAustralia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense?
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html
Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim
Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).
Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .
The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.
The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.
The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.
The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.
The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.
Bible Dictionary
Mizraim definition
the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.
Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.
Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).
According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]
According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.
But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.
In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]
However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]
Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)
A. The descendants of Japheth.
1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.
b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.
c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.
d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.
e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.
3. (3) The sons of Gomer.
The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.
b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.
4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).
The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.
B. The descendants of Ham.
1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.
b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.
c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.
The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).
a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”
b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.
i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)
ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”
iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”
iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)
3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.
Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).
4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.
Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.
a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.
b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.
5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.
These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.
C. The descendants of Shem.
1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.
2. (23) The sons of Aram.
The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.
Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).
3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.
Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.
a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.
b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.
4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.
These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.
These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice)
MIZRAIM = EGYPT
You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go.
http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm
The Truth
We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . .
Your LIE!!!!!!!
A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.
If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities.
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries
(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm
These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yey you, yourself are the persecuter. Capiche?
Europe is a LARGER Continent the nAustralia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense?
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html
Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim
Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).
Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .
The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.
The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.
The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.
The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.
The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.
Bible Dictionary
Mizraim definition
the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.
Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim
Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.
Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).
According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]
According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.
But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.
In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]
However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]
Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)
A. The descendants of Japheth.
1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.
b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.
c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.
d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.
e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.
3. (3) The sons of Gomer.
The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.
b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.
4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).
The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.
B. The descendants of Ham.
1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.
b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.
c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.
The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).
a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”
b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.
i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)
ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”
iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”
iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)
3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.
Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).
4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.
Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.
a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.
b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.
5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.
These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.
C. The descendants of Shem.
1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.
2. (23) The sons of Aram.
The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.
Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).
3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.
Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.
a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.
b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.
4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.
These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.
These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice)
MIZRAIM = EGYPT
You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go.
http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm
The Truth
We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . .
Your LIE!!!!!!!
A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.
If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities.
Paul follows his emphatic response with, for I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. . . . What is his point? If God had rejected Israel as His covenant people, then every Israelite would be disqualified from the possibility of being saved; yet he is an Israelite who is saved, and that proves that God has not rejected His people.
To sum up, we have noticed two proofs that God has not rejected Israel as His covenant people:
1. By the very meaning of May it never be! in the way that Paul used it in different contexts.
2. By the fact that Paul was a saved Israelite.
Nevertheless, we'll address several passages that need clarification.
b. Romans 11:1-5
1. I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3. "Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4. But what is the divine response to him? "I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5. In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
Replacement Theology
Its Origins, Teachings and Errors
By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries
(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm
These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yey you, yourself are the persecuter. Capiche?
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
This is what the Jews believe and Teach. What don't you understand?
lilly, you are a paronoid schizophrenic, the Bible was written BEFORE Alexander, he did not change the Jews History. You are an Antisemitic liar, like Hitler.
The History was written in an alephbet BEFORE the Greeks had an Alphabet. If you would actually bother to read it, it includes all Humankind and the whole world.
Check it out, see for yourself. If any of Lilly the Queen of Bullshit 'readers' would like to debate me, sign in. Lilly, the Queen of Bullshit ignores all the Archaeological, Linguistic and Historical evidence and just makes shit up.
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”
27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.
28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”
29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.
30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good
Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God
1: Has Intelligence
2: Has Freewill
3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul
4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.
5: Has the faculty of Judgement
6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity
As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.
The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.
The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.
The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.
The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."
These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg
This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.
The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.
The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.
Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.
Summarized
We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.
* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.
* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.
* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.
* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.
* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)
* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.
* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.
* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians
* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.
* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos
1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.
2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.
* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.
The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.
* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos
3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH
Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.
In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'
* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.
Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.
* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.
* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.
* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.
* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.
Tikkun Olam
* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.
* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.
* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.
* To accept Limits.
* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.
* To join in working for Order against Chaos.
* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.
* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.
* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.
* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.
* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:
* Infinite Value
* Equality
* Uniqueness.
These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh
The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....
lilly, you are a paronoid schizophrenic, the Bible was written BEFORE Alexander, he did not change the Jews History. You are an Antisemitic liar, like Hitler.
The History was written in an alephbet BEFORE the Greeks had an Alphabet. If you would actually bother to read it, it includes all Humankind and the whole world.
Check it out, see for yourself. If any of Lilly the Queen of Bullshit 'readers' would like to debate me, sign in. Lilly, the Queen of Bullshit ignores all the Archaeological, Linguistic and Historical evidence and just makes shit up.
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”
27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.
28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”
29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.
30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good
Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God
1: Has Intelligence
2: Has Freewill
3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul
4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.
5: Has the faculty of Judgement
6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity
As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.
The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.
The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.
The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.
The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."
These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg
This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.
The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.
The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.
Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.
Summarized
We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.
* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.
* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.
* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.
* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.
* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)
* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.
* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.
* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians
* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.
* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos
1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.
2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.
* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.
The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.
* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos
3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH
Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.
In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'
* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.
Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.
* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.
* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.
* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.
* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.
Tikkun Olam
* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.
* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.
* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.
* To accept Limits.
* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.
* To join in working for Order against Chaos.
* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.
* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.
* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.
* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.
* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:
* Infinite Value
* Equality
* Uniqueness.
These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh
The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
Hello Insanity,
...Interesting title to the thread.
Now how is this going to work?
Lurkers can put us on ignore?
Just so they can see your rambling crap?
I don't think so.
But I laugh at any rate,you tell people not to read us,but IF we do that back,it's the highest commandment we can break with Silly Lilly...
then we'll get labled by this nutter,like she does Tintin,like she did to her ex-husband,as beastial "Baby-fuckers"...
Because we had the audacity,to show the inconsistancies in her maniacal spam and call her out on her endless and myriad forms of LIES
and my fave
...ner,ner,ner,ner...
...Interesting title to the thread.
Now how is this going to work?
Lurkers can put us on ignore?
Just so they can see your rambling crap?
I don't think so.
But I laugh at any rate,you tell people not to read us,but IF we do that back,it's the highest commandment we can break with Silly Lilly...
then we'll get labled by this nutter,like she does Tintin,like she did to her ex-husband,as beastial "Baby-fuckers"...
Because we had the audacity,to show the inconsistancies in her maniacal spam and call her out on her endless and myriad forms of LIES
and my fave
...ner,ner,ner,ner...
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
Billy Ruben wrote:Hello Insanity,
...Interesting title to the thread.
Now how is this going to work?
Lurkers can put us on ignore?
Just so they can see your rambling crap?
I don't think so.
But I laugh at any rate,you tell people not to read us,but IF we do that back,it's the highest commandment we can break with Silly Lilly...
then we'll get labled by this nutter,like she does Tintin,like she did to her ex-husband,as beastial "Baby-fuckers"...
Because we had the audacity,to show the inconsistancies in her maniacal spam and call her out on her endless and myriad forms of LIES.....
and my fave
...ner,ner,ner,ner...
Really, who is she talking about. Ignore?
For shitz & gigglez I put her on the Ignore List and 90+% of the Forum postings disappeared. Lilly the Queen of Bullshit is like some kind of Science Project that went awry. Although I am a Post Conspiracist, she does seem to be a manchurian candidate, MKultra, she is definitely dominating the Lunatic Fringe sector..
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
Zion/Zionism
JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm
Apparently you don't know shit about 'ZION'.
http://mashiyach.com/
You're claim that Israel is an insignificant strip of sand illuminates your ignorance. Israel is the Left/Western Arm of the fertile Crescent..........the Israelites have even made the southern desert areas bloom due to hard work, a foreign concept to you.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/
You're welcome in advance,
JESUS AND THE IDENTITY OF GOD
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_JIG.htm
Some theologies, e.g., ancient Epicureanism and modern Deism, believe in a god, or gods, but think they have nothing much to do with the world in which we live. Others, like Stoicism, believe that god, or “the divine,” or “the sacred” is simply a dimension of our world, so that “god” and the world end up being pretty much the same thing. Both of these can give birth to practical or theoretical atheism. The first can let its “god” get so far away that he disappears. This is what happened with Marx and Feuerbach in the nineteenth century, allowing the “absentee landlord” of eighteenth-century Deism to become simply an absentee. The second can get so used to various “gods” around the place that it ceases to care much about them. This is what happened with a good deal of ancient paganism in Greece and Rome, until, as Pliny wryly remarks, the arrival of Christianity stirred up pagans to a fresh devotion to their gods.[9]
The Jews believed in a quite different “god.” This god, YHWH, “the One Who Is,” the Sovereign One, was not simply the objectification of forces and drives within the world, but was the maker of all that exists. Several biblical books, or parts thereof, are devoted to exploring the difference between YHWH and the pagan idols: Daniel, Isaiah 40-55, and a good many Psalms spring obviously to mind. The theme is summed up in the Jewish daily prayer: “YHWH our God, YHWH is one!”[10]
Classic Jewish monotheism, then, believed that (a) there was one God, who created heaven and earth and who remained in close and dynamic relation with his creation; and that (b) this God had called Israel to be his special people. This twin belief, tested to the limit and beyond through Israel’s checkered career, was characteristically expressed through a particular narrative: the chosen people were also the rescued people, liberated from slavery in Egypt, marked out by the gift of Torah, established in their land, exiled because of disobedience, but promised a glorious return and final settlement. Jewish-style monotheism meant living in this story and trusting in this one true God, the God of creation and covenant, of Exodus and Return.
This God was utterly different from the pantheist’s “one god.” This is an important point to note: many, including many scholars, have blithely assumed that because Stoics and others talked about “one god” they were saying the same thing as the Jews. This God was also utterly different from the far-away ultra-transcendent gods of the Epicureans. Always active within his world, did he not feed the young ravens when they called upon him?[11]—he could be trusted to act more specifically on behalf of Israel. His eventual overthrow of pagan power at the political would be the revelation of his overthrow of the false gods of the nations. His vindication of his people, liberating them finally from all their oppressors, would also be the vindication of his own name and reputation. In justifying his people, he would himself be justified. In his righteousness, his covenant faithfulness, they would find their own.
This monotheism was never, in our period, an inner analysis of the being of the one God. It was always a way of saying, frequently at great risk: our God is the true God, and your gods are worthless idols. It was a way of holding on to hope. We can see the dynamic of this monotheism working its way out in the manifold crises of second-temple Judaism, with the Maccabees, Judas the Galilean, and above all the two wars of the late 60s and early 130s A.D. revealing how the creational and covenantal theology and worldview remained at work through the period and in different groups.
This God was both other than the world and continually active within it. The words “transcendent” and “immanent,” we should note, are pointers to this double belief, but do not clarify it much. Because this God is thus simultaneously other than his people and present with them, Jews of Jesus’ day had developed several ways of speaking about the activity of this God in which they attempted to hold together, because they dared not separate, these twin truths. Emboldened by deep-rooted traditions, they explored what appears to us a strange, swirling sense of a rhythm of mutual relations within the very being of the one God: a to-and-fro, a give-and-take, a command-and-obey, a sense of love poured out and love received. God’s Spirit broods over the waters, God’s Word goes forth to produce new life, God’s Law guides his people, God’s Presence or Glory dwells with them in fiery cloud, in tabernacle and temple. These four ways of speaking moved to and fro from metaphor to trembling reality-claim and back again. They enabled Jews to speak simultaneously of God’s sovereign supremacy and his intimate presence, of his unapproachable holiness and his self-giving compassionate love.
Best known of all is perhaps a fifth. God’s Wisdom is his handmaid in creation, the firstborn of his works, his chief of staff, his delight. God’s Wisdom is another way of talking about God present with his people in the checkered careers of the patriarchs and particularly in the events of the Exodus. Wisdom becomes closely aligned thereby with Torah and Shekinah.[12] Through the Lady Wisdom of Proverbs 1-8, the creator has fashioned everything, especially the human race. To embrace Wisdom is therefore to discover the secret of being truly human, of reflecting God’s image.[13]............................Out of all this, I have argued in various places that we can, as historians, properly reconstruct Jesus of Nazareth’s sense of vocation. We can study John the Baptist’s vocation, and Paul’s: why should we not study Jesus’? When we do so, we find that dozens and dozens of lines of inquiry converge to produce a well ordered, coherent, historically credible sense of vocation, emerging in central symbolic actions, hinted at in a hundred cryptic and teasing sayings. Jesus believed he was Israel’s Messiah, the one in whom Israel’s history was to be summed up. Jesus believed he would win the messianic victory over the real enemy and would build the true messianic temple through taking Israel’s fate upon himself and going to the cross. Jesus believed that in doing so he was not just pointing to or talking about, but was actually embodying, the return of YHWH to Zion. These, though striking and startling, emerge from the world of Second Temple Judaism like the flower growing suddenly out of the plant. They were not expected, but upon inspection this is where they belonged. All the elements of the package were around somewhere in the culture. They are not, repeat not, a retrojection of later Christian theology, not even of later NT theology, which by and large developed in other legitimate ways. They are only credible, but they are totally credible, as the historically reconstructed mindset of Jesus himself. And they form, not the substance of later atonement and incarnational theology, but its historical starting point.
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.I have argued elsewhere that a central feature of Jewish expectation, and kingdom expectation at that, in Jesus’ time was the hope that YHWH would return in person to Zion. Having abandoned Jerusalem at the time of the exile, his return was delayed, but he would come back at last. Within this context, someone who told cryptic stories about a king or a master who went away, left his servants with tasks to perform, and then returned to see how they were getting on must—not “might,” must point to this controlling, over-arching metanarrative. Of course, the later Church, forgetting the first century Jewish context, read such stories as though they were originally about Jesus himself going away and then returning in a “second coming.” Of course, cautious scholars noticing this, deny that Jesus would have said such things. I propose that here at the heart of Jesus’ work, and at the moment of its climax, Jesus not only told stories about the king, who came back to Zion to judge and to save. He acted as though he thought the stories were coming true in what he himself was accomplishing. This is the context, at last, in which I think it best to approach the question with which this essay began.........................................And Jesus seems to have believed it about himself. The language was deeply coded, but the symbolic action was not. He was coming to Zion, doing what YHWH had promised to do. He explained his action with riddles all pointing in the same direction. Recognize this, and you start to see it all over the place, especially in parables and actions whose other layers have preoccupied us. Why, after all, does Jesus tell a story about a yearning father in order to account for his own behavior?[36] It is this that also accounts for his sovereign attitude to Torah, his speaking on behalf of Wisdom, and his announcement of forgiveness of sins.[37] By themselves none of these would be conclusive. Even if they are allowed to stand as words and actions of Jesus, they remain cryptic. But predicate them of the same young man who is then on his way to Jerusalem to confront the powers that be with the message and the action of the kingdom of God and who tells stories as he does which are best interpreted as stories of YHWH returning to Zion, then you have reached. I believe, the deep heart of Jesus’ own sense of vocation. He believed himself called to do and be what in the scriptures only Israel’s God did and was.
..................................What are we therefore saying about the earthly Jesus? In Jesus himself, I suggest we see the biblical portrait of YHWH come to life: the loving God, rolling up his sleeves (Isa 52:10) to do in person the job that no one else could do, the creator God giving new life the God who works through his created world and supremely through his human creatures, the faithful God dwelling in the midst of his people, the stern and tender God relentlessly opposed to all that destroys or distorts the good creation, and especially human beings, but recklessly loving all those in need and distress. “He shall feed his flock like a shepherd; he shall carry the lambs in his arms; and gently lead those that are with young” (Isa 40:11). It is the OT portrait of YHWH, but it fits Jesus like a glove. ...............
Apparently you don't know shit about 'ZION'.
http://mashiyach.com/
The Kingdom of Elohim is represented by Tsiyon (pronounced Tsee-yone or Zion in English), a literal place in Jerusalem, that symbolizes a spiritual place, the seat of Mashiyach's government on this earth. Originally Zion was a small location in Jerusalem, then it became a code name for the whole city of Jerusalem.
For it is said in the Scripture, “Behold, in Tsiyon I lay a chosen and precious stone for the head of the corner; and whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.” On you therefore who believe is this honor conferred: but to them who do not believe “he is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” And they stumble at it because they believe not the Word from where they were appointed. But you are an elect race, officiating as priests of the Kingdom; a Set Apart people, a redeemed congregation; that you should proclaim the praises of him who called you out of darkness to his precious light: who formerly were not counted as a people but now are the people of Elohim; and also, there were (once) no mercies on you but now mercies are poured out upon you. My beloved, I entreat you as strangers and pilgrims, separate yourselves from all lusts of the body, for they war against the soul. And let your behavior be honorable before all men; so that they who utter evil speeches against you, may see your good actions and may praise Elohim in the day of trial. And be submissive to all the sons of men, for Elohim’s sake; to kings, on account of their authority; and to judges because they are sent by him for the punishment of offenders, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of Elohim, that by your good deeds you may stop the mouth of the foolish who do not know Elohim: As free men, you are not like men who make their freedom a cloak for their wickedness, but as the servants of Elohim. 1 Peter 2:6-16
Throughout Scripture we read of a Kingdom that is not of this earth, but it is shaped from the pattern that is in Heaven. The tabernacle in the wilderness was built according to the specifications that YHWH gave to Moses and within that tabernacle, each of the physical elements are symbols of the spiritual or heavenly Kingdom. It is also interesting to note that Zion is mentioned in 153 verses in the Tanakh... this is the same number of fish the disciples caught in John 21:11. The symbolism is clear, Yeshua taught his disciples how to build the Kingdom of Heaven, as opposed to a religion "about" the Kingdom of Heaven, a very big difference.
We are being trained to know what Tsiyon is, and what it is not. No religion or people's groups have exclusive rights to Tsiyon, it belongs to the people of Mashiyach regardless of religion, race, color or creed. The Government of Tsiyon is on the shoulder of Mashiyach. Mashiyach is returning to the Mount of Olives from whence he departed, but this time round Scripture tells us he will be Mashiyach Ben David a much different scenario than when he first came to earth.
There is the Israel of Elohim (spiritual) and there is the other kingdom of Israel of the flesh. Not all who are Israel of the flesh are the Israel of Elohim. If we can look at Jews, Christians or Muslims without judging them by their religion or race, then we are getting closer to ZION, as how it is revealed in Mashiyach. The Kingdom of Elohim is a government, NOT a religion.
Tsiyon is also the place in our neshama (spirit) where we connect with Mashiyach where our heart receives and gives love for all of Creation, where we can see all others through the eyes of Mashiyach and carry no prejudice towards anyone. The Kingdom is within us, it is not an external government or religion.
You're claim that Israel is an insignificant strip of sand illuminates your ignorance. Israel is the Left/Western Arm of the fertile Crescent..........the Israelites have even made the southern desert areas bloom due to hard work, a foreign concept to you.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/
What is Zionism?
Zionism is the political movement that is implementing the national liberation of the Jewish people. It is based on the assertion that the Jewish people, like any other people, has the right to self-determination; Jews have a right to a national home in their historic homeland. Zionism has made a reality of the "impossible" project of restoration of the Jewish people to our homeland, after nearly 2,000 years of exile. The work of Zionism is far from complete, however.
Zionism has always been a part of Judaism
The ideological and cultural foundations of Zionism have always been present in Jewish tradition. Jews always thought of themselves as a nation or people. The concept of "am Yisrael" - the "people of Israel" or "nation of Israel," has been inherent in Jewish culture from ancient times. Jewish cultural and religious life always centered around the land of Israel. This did not change during two millennia of dispersion.
You're welcome in advance,
MoMo- Posts : 1856
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Location : outside the box, I pooped in it.
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
el kabong wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:Hello Insanity,
...Interesting title to the thread.
Now how is this going to work?
Lurkers can put us on ignore?
Just so they can see your rambling crap?
I don't think so.
But I laugh at any rate,you tell people not to read us,but IF we do that back,it's the highest commandment we can break with Silly Lilly...
then we'll get labled by this nutter,like she does Tintin,like she did to her ex-husband,as beastial "Baby-fuckers"...
Because we had the audacity,to show the inconsistancies in her maniacal spam and call her out on her endless and myriad forms of LIES.....
and my fave
...ner,ner,ner,ner...
Really, who is she talking about. Ignore?
For shitz & gigglez I put her on the Ignore List and 90+% of the Forum postings disappeared. Lilly the Queen of Bullshit is like some kind of Science Project that went awry. Although I am a Post Conspiracist, she does seem to be a manchurian candidate, MKultra, she is definitely dominating the Lunatic Fringe sector..
Aaaah!...so it was you that triggered this new bout of hysteria and paranoia,to be honest,I had no idea,why she
was referring to be put on "IGNORE".I thought she was telling unregistered browsers to do that,which is impossible to perform.She just
went weird,I hoped I got through to her the other night by SMS...Yeah,but if you want to save on bandwidth,put her on ignore and read what post are worth reading through quoted lines...Hahahahahahahaha,that'll burn.
Basically,she wants us hating her and throwing shit,one it justifies her rants of online gang stalking,two,it might make her look good.
I just do that for her...on purpose and not give a toss what people think of me...which spoils both points one and two,there's no victory,or hollow it be.
But she just enraged me with the latest Judas shit she does,then carries on like she has'nt done anything,I mean,going us two all the time,I thought we did'nt give a rats arse...but she makes it that we should do...the only way she gets my attention,is to bait me on,just sooner or later,I'm gonna jag a glimpse into who she really is and going to destroy her mind,before I realise what has happened,the fool.She chose me to shipwreck herself on...and I don't want the job...
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
Why the hell she would want to ignore two of the most brilliant lights on this Forum is beyond me. She is truly absurd and incomprehensible.
Her 'Readers' I'm sure have been delighted with our sane, lucid and incisive insights. eh wot.
Her 'Readers' I'm sure have been delighted with our sane, lucid and incisive insights. eh wot.
MoMo- Posts : 1856
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
My original thread that 'they' spammed to death then
chopped up into many, with 'their' spam filling the lead pages,
and giving the often proven BS excuse that pages can't go
past 68 pages, is now, WAY PAST "68" pages, but still going so 'team them'
can keep spamming it with 'their' murderous propaganda,
and so also PROVING 'them' MONSTROUS LIARS
...so here's a bit more of what 'they' MUST KEEP BURIED and
ARE SCARED SHITLESS 'their' 'friends'=TARGETS, WILL WAKE UP TO...
And just to further make my case...
(something 'you mob' do so well for me here)
while some still have time to GET IT!
ANSWER ME; WHY NONE OF 'you'
PRETENDING to be on opposing sides,
EVER ATTACK 'each other', as 'you' ALL DO me,
THE ONLY, PROVEN, REAL LIVE,
NON-SECRET AGENDA PUSHER on
CONspiracy Forums of
The World Wide WEB of DECEPTION?
chopped up into many, with 'their' spam filling the lead pages,
and giving the often proven BS excuse that pages can't go
past 68 pages, is now, WAY PAST "68" pages, but still going so 'team them'
can keep spamming it with 'their' murderous propaganda,
and so also PROVING 'them' MONSTROUS LIARS
...so here's a bit more of what 'they' MUST KEEP BURIED and
ARE SCARED SHITLESS 'their' 'friends'=TARGETS, WILL WAKE UP TO...
And just to further make my case...
(something 'you mob' do so well for me here)
while some still have time to GET IT!
...HYPOCRITE ALERT!...true lilly wrote:Long ago, I asked folk to ask themselves
(so they too, may see the truth of God's Word),
"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO?",
and I was banned for continuing to show, where, AND WHY.
See, unlike "tintin" and his ilk, I have nothing to do with
High Finance or picking and choosing figure heads, but,
I do care to study God's Word, and pay a little attention
to what is really going on, in this real world we occupy, as
God Advised Us, For Our Real Lives Sake.
[size=24]Nick Greiner appointed chairman of advisers
at Rothschild Australia
Rothschild Australia
(and 'you' simply won't allow,
THAT Headline, to show up big and bold.
Why, it's all in the public media,
freely available to anyone who can
pull their heads out of Team Tintin's arse
for two seconds )
Michael Bennet
From: The Australian
August 01, 2011 1:18PM
Nick Greiner, a former NSW Premier,
is a top adviser at Rothschild.
Source: The Daily Telegraph
ROTHSCHILD has appointed former New South Wales Liberal Premier Nick
Greiner as chairman of its council of advisers at its Australian
business and a senior adviser globally.
The investment bank today said Mr Greiner, who was Premier and
Treasurer of NSW from 1988 to1992, would take up the roles effective
today.
Trevor Rowe, the executive chairman of Rothschild
Australia, said Mr Greiner’s public service and corporate board
experience would be of great value in providing insights to its clients.
Mr Greiner chairs a range of businesses and bodies, including Bradken,
Citigroup Australia and Infrastructure NSW. He is also deputy chairman
of CHAMP Private Equity.
Rothschild Australia recently advised SunRice on the failed takeover of
the group by Ebro Foods, Asahi on its bid for the whole of P&N Beverages,
which was blocked by the competition regulator, and the Queensland government
on its successful float of QR National.
Related Coverage
Spotlight on Rothschild's energy money The Australian, 10 Jun 2011
Slowdown puts brakes on rates The Australian, 31 May 2011
'Greiner role offered to Max the Axe' The Daily Telegraph, 6 May 2011
ALP scared off investors, says Greiner The Australian, 2 May 2011
Super could fund infrastructure The Australian, 2 May 2011
Asahi to pay $1.2b for Independent Liquor
Staff writer
From: AFP
August 08, 2011 12:00AM
JAPANESE beverage giant Asahi Group
reportedly has trumped rival Suntory
in the race to buy Independent Liquor.
Asahi will pay about $1.21 billion to buy the company, which is
headquartered in New Zealand, from private equity companies Pacific
Equity Partners and Unitas as it moves to expand in Asia and Oceania.
Asahi has been touted as a potential rival bidder for Melbourne-based
Foster's Group, which is the target of an informal $9.5 billion takeover
offer from Anglo-African beverage giant SABMiller. Asahi will announce
its biggest acquisition soon, Nikkei newspaper reported yesterday.
Japanese firms have sought to expand in foreign markets as domestic sales suffer
from slow consumption by the country's shrinking and ageing population.
Asahi already has a foothold in the Australian soft drinks market through its
Schweppes brand and last month agreed to buy P&N Beverages Australia.
Related Coverage
SABMiller waits on Foster's The Australian, 6 days ago
Greiner top Rothschild adviser The Australian, 7 days ago
Business as usual at Renmark plant Adelaide Now, 6 Jul 2011
Multi-million-dollar All Black FoxSports, 6 Jul 2011
World tucks into Aussie agriculture Herald Sun, 5 Jul 2011
Aussie stock market lifts after dive
Stephen McMahon and AAP
UPDATE 12.39pm:
THE Australian share market recovered
some of its early losses today as
investors regained some nerve.
China still our rock, say economists
HA! I was only going to post the headline
and introduction, but it GOT DELETED HERE
so I had to get the whole story.
Australians safe in China's hands amid tumble
Neil Wilson
From: Herald Sun
August 08, 2011 12:00AM
Rio Tinto chief executive Tom Albanese.
CHINA'S voracious appetite for Australian resources
is likely to continue despite the latest bout of
global economic volatility,
economists and business leaders say.
Rio Tinto chief Tom Albanese said yesterday while the debt crisis
engulfing major western economies had implications for the entire world,
China's economy would continue to grow rapidly.
And RMIT economics professor On Kit Tam said China's foreign investment program
meant there would be little impact on the Asian giant's demand for resources.
"I don't think this decline in the US rating
will have any immediate effect via China on to Australia," Prof Tam said.
"China is shielded by its foreign investment and capital controls."
China's news agency Xinhua said yesterday unless the US cut its
"gigantic military expenditure and bloated welfare costs", another ratings
downgrade would be inevitable.
Related Coverage
Roubini bullish on China The Australian, 20 Jul 2011
China slowdown a global risk The Australian, 18 Jul 2011
Forecasts put us at China's mercy The Australian, 11 May 2011
Consequences of China's boom start to get complicated The Australian, 1 Apr 2011
Hale warns as China is set to slide Adelaide Now, 28 Mar 2011
But Prof Tam said China had little option but to retain its $1.2 trillion holding
of US bonds as debt-ridden Europe did not provide a reliable alternative investment.
China is now buying a quarter of Australia's exports, while the US takes just 4 per cent.
Prof Tam said despite China's efforts to rein in its high inflation rate,
which clocked in at 6.4 per cent annualised in June, the economy would
still growth about 9 per cent this year.
Mr Albanese said based on his travels through China and knowledge of the economy,
he was convinced growth would not slip below 8 per cent next year.
He told the ABC's Inside Business program yesterday
the engine room of the Chinese economy was changing.
"It's shifting a bit from commercial and higher-end residential (property
construction) to probably what would be a more middle-class residential,
which we would see as a healthy sign," Mr Albanese said.
"What I see (is) that growth continues."
(lost count, is this the 5th or 6th time I've had to re-format this post?
Talk about petty, childish twerps, who think wasting someone's time,
somehow doesn't show them to be the born losers they are )
No, this is NOT off topic. It is The Topic, that The CONspiracy Industry
has banned me all over the World Wide Web of DECEIVING Forums,
for caring to freely share. I WARNED OF THIS, YEARS AGO,
and SHOWED and EXPLAINED how I came to know; simply by,
TAKING GOD'S WORD at HIS WORD!
The Clash: 'STRAIGHT TO HELL'
If you can play on the fiddle
How's about a British jig and reel?
Speaking King's English in quotation
As railhead towns feel the steel mills rust water froze
In the generation
Clear as winter ice
This is your paradise
There ain't no need for ya
Go straight to hell boys
Y'wanna join in a chorus
Of the Amerasian blues?
When it's Christmas out in Ho Chi Minh City
Kiddie say papa papa papa papa-san take me home
See me got photo photo
Photograph of you
Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Of you and Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Lemme tell ya 'bout your blood bamboo kid.
It ain't Coca-Cola it's rice.
Straight to hell
Oh Papa-san
Please take me home
Oh Papa-san
Everybody they wanna go home
So Mamma-san says
You wanna play mind-crazed banjo
On the druggy-drag ragtime U.S.A.?
In Parkland International
Hah! Junkiedom U.S.A.
Where procaine proves the purest rock man groove
and rat poison
The volatile Molatov says-
PSSST...
HEY CHICO WE GOT A MESSAGE FOR YA...
VAMOS VAMOS MUCHACHO
FROM ALPHABET CITY ALL THE WAY A TO Z, DEAD, HEAD
Go straight to hell
Can you really cough it up loud and strong
The immigrants
They wanna sing all night long
It could be anywhere
Most likely could be any frontier
Any hemisphere
No man's land and there ain't no asylum here
King Solomon he never lived round here
Go straight to hell boys
Oh and yes,
God also told us He would give us watchmen,
to witness and warn, those with hearing ears
Billy Ruben wrote:Did you have to spam
True Lilly,can't you just talk,what would happen if we were lovers,are
you going to spam text dirty talk to me while we f*ck...can't you just say,"F*ck me in the shitter you goy bastard"...
...Now WHEN will 'you' 'Billy' et al,Billy Ruben wrote:LOLZ
ANSWER ME; WHY NONE OF 'you'
PRETENDING to be on opposing sides,
EVER ATTACK 'each other', as 'you' ALL DO me,
THE ONLY, PROVEN, REAL LIVE,
NON-SECRET AGENDA PUSHER on
CONspiracy Forums of
The World Wide WEB of DECEPTION?
true lilly wrote:I see you can't stop talking about yourself...
Parasites POISON, WEAKEN and KILL THOSE THEY 'live' OFF...
e.g. 'your' Team 'mates' here:"... in the free speech zone"rodin wrote:NAZI is product placementel kabong wrote:not to worry rodent, DIFtardia is a haven for NAZIs such as yourself. It was a mere Technical glitch and we have it sorted.rodin wrote:Well that's a
relief, DIF is back up. I feared the worst since the FORUM direct button
on the main page redirected to it. I have books worth of research on
that site...
oops spoke too soon.
gotta keep pushing that tired old bit of string...
meanwhile in the free speech zone
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=179187
...ahh, another time, ya gotta laugh...
...and this, is funny...
"It was a mere Technical glitch and we have it sorted."
Not, 'maintenance' this time, an actual 'glitch', and 'sorted'...
...now why is it I hear, "POLITICS 101"...
Well at least 'el kabong'=the obsessive attacker of,
"The, Icke=tintin, 'Thorn'" , with
"YOU MUST ONLY BELIEVE THE TORAH!", BS,
admits a little of why he must do the,
"free speech zone" version of,
NAZI/tintin's silencing of 'The Thorn', here,
which along with, chatting so politely, with
'blame everything on the jews', 'rodin'
and NOT SPAMMING 'HIS' thread with pages of ,
"YOU MUST ONLY BELIEVE THE TORAH!", BS,
clearly makes a Key Point of the case I present, for me.
BTW, at least I gave folk clear warning, years ago
of the very shit happening in England, now,
such as explaining why people were being encouraged
to kill themselves trying to squeeze into already
way over populated northern cities like London...
while 'you mob' screamed, "DON'T LISTEN TO HER!"
Gee, I wonder how many English Londoners
HATE YOU MOB now, that they realize I gave them
enough warning time to legally migrate to O'Zion,
while the "Ciggy's, Wonder Woman's, ownoiz's etc."
of WEB/NET CON Forum land, cruelly 'advised' folk
to move to every dangerous, bankrupt, unstable,
hot spot in the world, except O'Zion...While working
FOR The Nazi/Dutch/'KING of The NORTH' who still
want to TAKE IT ALL FROM US, FOR THEMSELVES.
Oh sure, we will have our needed, bothersome corrections, to,
but we are also doing good things, like setting up a Universal
Disability Insurance Scheme (the 'SNOWY RIVER SCHEME' of
PUBLIC HEALTH, Bigger than the NBN), an awful lot like what
I hammered for years ago, when working in that field.
Remember, it's all the twittering (ANTI)'social' NET 'workers'
who have been suckered into MURDERING INNOCENT DEFENDERS
of THEIR INNOCENT NEIGHBOURS in these (INSANE ICKEST
RELIGION PUSHERS of), England's 'Riots'(=UN'civil' WARS).
And it is the INSANE ICKEST RELIGION PUSHERS who have made me,
'THEIR' MOST BANNED FROM FREELY SPEAKING, LITERALLY BASHED
and CAR BOMBED, ENEMY...
...who 'somehow'=BY THE GRACE of GOD, is still kicking.
And no 'Billy', remember, I don't 'make connections', but know,
what I know, through my faith in The Creator and His Promise
of Revealing to His faithful, what they need to know, when they
need to know it. Which is why 'you mob' must invent so many
slanderous tales about who I am, lest others Hear and Receive
The Message of God's Saving Grace, that I am simply a real,
live human individual, example of being blessed by, through
not denying, and publicly sharing, That, Very Best News, Ever.
The Truth, does indeed, set you free,
and The Truth Is With The One Who Can't Lie,
The Creator of Life,
Who Described The Whole World, All The Earth
and All Peoples, From The Beginning.
...and as GOD is the only truly effective Ridder of Parasites,
I trust Him to His work.
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!true lilly wrote:
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .
Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...
ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...
LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?
And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???
e.g. the latest just in:...and what doesn't he get about 'them'Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?
Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.
lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.
[quote=”Billy Ruben”]Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.
EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?
And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???
e.g. the latest just in:...and what doesn't he get about 'them'Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
(those 'respected' people he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?
Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cover 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their' satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra
As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.
Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...
Billy Ruben wrote:true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!true lilly wrote:
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .
Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO...
ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...
LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...
true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' ),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???
And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.
You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.
And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.
The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.
...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...
JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.
Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...
lets investigate the reversal to her name
TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA
PUT TOGETHER...
LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htmBilly Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.
YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE...
think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
JUST RANG THE LYING COW,SHE AVOIDED ALL THE QUESTIONS HAD NOTHING TO SAY AND HER SPEECH WAS SO SLOWED AND SLURRED,SHE WAS DOSED UP ON SOMETHING,PITY,IT DOES'NT REMOVE HER DELUSIONS ABOUT EVERYONE SHE INTERACTS WITH.I WROTE HER OFF,NO SWEARING OR THREATS AND LAUGHED IN HER FACE FOR DESTROYING HER CREDIBILTY (VERY LITTLE OF) AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DENIES AND SPAMS AWAY,EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SHE'LL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT."sHE SAYS,I GOT TO GO NOW,THANKYOU",IN THAT HIDEOUS PIXIE SHIT TONE VOICE OF HERS,UGLY OUTSIDE AND UGLY TO THE BONE THAT ONE IS...THIS IS VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP WAY OVER THE LINE,FOR TOO LONG,THIS HAS BEEN COMING...SHE'S SO UGLY,YOU GOT NO IDEA,THE VULGARNESS OF ITS VOICE,HIDEOUS.HERE'S HER PHONE NUMBER:0424705576...SORRY,I CHOSE BROWN,BROWN FOR POOP THAT DRIVELS OUT HER MOUTH...
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
el kabong wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7guzT6ANI&feature=fvst
git yer groove on!
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3af4ZJS4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMniyUyqN_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM
true lilly wrote:
and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last
hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader.
what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.
Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.
The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.
This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.
When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.
Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.
As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.
The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.
The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.
Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.
One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.
Social Engineering.
The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.
The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.
The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.
The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.
Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18
The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.
The First Commandment:
20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.
Nothing personal, it was business.
The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82
Psalm 82
82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.
82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.
82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.
The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.
Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.
Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.
The Second Commandment:
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.
Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.
Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.
The Third Commandment:
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.
Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.
To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.
The Fourth Commandment:
20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.
This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.
Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,
No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.
The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.
Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.
Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.
Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.
A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.
Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.
The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.
This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.
A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.
This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.
Time is a key function of the Left Brain.
Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.
Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.
This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.
Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.
Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?
A lying, false prophet.
You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
So, how many separate posts
can 'they' SPAM IN THE SAME MINUTE,
WITHOUT BEING DRAGGED THROUGH
the lengthy "Confirmation Code" BS, as
I AM, and, WHY DO 'they' HAVE TO
SPAM=BURY ONE SIMPLE MESSAGE
that NONE of the world's
CONspiracy gurus DARE TOUCH?
The simple answer...
Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.
But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.
The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.
FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.
...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,
BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,
'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.
Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but,
to Know, Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.
And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.
can 'they' SPAM IN THE SAME MINUTE,
WITHOUT BEING DRAGGED THROUGH
the lengthy "Confirmation Code" BS, as
I AM, and, WHY DO 'they' HAVE TO
SPAM=BURY ONE SIMPLE MESSAGE
that NONE of the world's
CONspiracy gurus DARE TOUCH?
The simple answer...
Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.
But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.
The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.
FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.
...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,
BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,
'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.
Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but,
to Know, Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.
And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.
true lilly wrote:Just another "tintin/cori" 'classic' bit of
CODE KEY FILLED, NEWS of TODAY, that
'they' are also ignoring...and yeah, note:
The Significance of "The HOOD[Y]"
Leonardo DiCaprio arrives
in Australia to shoot
The Great Gatsby
The great Leo arrives in the hood
Tonya Turner
LEONARDO DiCaprio
has touched down in Sydney
to begin filming The Great Gatsby,
making a quick getaway
dressed incognito.
Video
Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots
Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/victoria-police-monitoring-gangs-in-melbourne-following-british-riots/story-fn7x8me2-1226119207091true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke",
this thread is on the First Page.
So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts,
TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL
(by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and
BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE,
IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post.
So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you",
THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB
and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS
(the Stolen, Dehydrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT",
"you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home,
recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!
and the other one that wasn't mine, now lives here, happily,
on the 2 1/2 feet he has left),
gives people GOOD REASON TO READ
WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...
posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS,
THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry
IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE,
AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.
Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek
Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/two-critically-injured-in-chemical-blast-at-cannons-creek/story-fn7x8me2-1226119289534
17 comments
RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011
Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that 'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS
I don't know how far 'Billy Ruben' outed those
he was slaving to defend, but I do hope that
at least some, if not all of them, will finally see,
clearly enough, to stop cursing their blessings,
repent, and live...their own lives, and, stop trying
to prevent me from living mine...what, you say, 'if
I really cared, I'd have made the pill sweeter!'...but,
I did, for decades, I made it ever so sweet, smooth,
small and easy to swallow, when I should have realized
that they were so poisoned with bitterness, what they
really needed, way back then, was a bloody big enema!
horror, wing, walker,
helicopter, 60m, death,
Todd Green
...gee, only some of,
"cori" and "tintin's" Favourite
CODE/TRIGGER KEYS,
from only one headline,
of this, BIG, TODAY'S NEWS,
and where are 'they'...
August 22, 2011
WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES
An airshow audience's gasps of awe
turned to gasps of horror
as wing walker Todd Green
lost his grip from a helicopter
and plunged 60m
to his death.
Picture: AP
Read More
Wing walker tragedy
...NOT posting about it,
or any of this, either...That'strue lilly wrote:
NOW, 16 MODERATORS at DAVID ICKE Official Forums:
lookfar, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave,
measle_weasel, merlincove, ufochick,
mace, drhemp, thommo, scottishryan,
hunter77, weeman, atlantabizgal,
infidelyork, edelweiss pirate
...despite how many have STOPPED POSTING...
...maybe something to do with...
This post was made by Billy Ruben who is currently on your ignore list.
So what do/does 'he/she/they' NOT GET?
Why the need to keep texting me about 'their' latest posts
in 'their' very personal, literal, war against me, as if I
and my opinions, matter more than, The War being fought?
I've often made it perfectly clear that I'm more than happy
to speak WITH any, real, individual person, about what I post,
but even when 'Billy/Jason' does ring and speak AT me, 'he'
can't be bothered remembering, where 'he's' supposed to be,
'who's' supposed to have told 'him' what, or that 'he' can't block
the number or location, from which 'he' makes 'his' worst threats,
from 'those who know and matter'.
And so, being a self proven, as well as self confessed,
NOT so Secret [anymore] Agenda Pushing, 'Agent'
of the BAD 'them'...yep, there is a GOOD 'them'...I can't
keep treating 'him/her/them' as if 'they' are not the very
same, very dangerously deceitful ilk, I first stated posting
warnings for real individuals to take heed of.true lilly wrote:Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...
...got another call from him, to inform me of this thread...
...idiots...they couldn't even start to construct a believable tale...
...the price of that 'intelligence' supplied by idiots ...anyway...
Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...
...and at such a time... ...Team Leader "tintin" will be miffed,
with 'YOU' and...true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE!
But NOT in a nice, 'stupid, so innocent' way.
He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION
FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP.
And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum.
Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS,
and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.'Funny', though, howtrue lilly wrote:There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVERCiggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate:
Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world
and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
'they' can't take the joke, of
the intended victims laughing at the joy
of one more hour of Blessed Life...
...that is another WARNING, as 'they' are
committed to KILLING THEMSELVES TO KILL
(ALL WHO REFUSE), to BOW TO THE BEAST,
and so, DIE TWICE and FOREVER.
And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH......TO,
those 'cleaning them up'... ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and
I do think 'you' have, "given a shit",
right down the legs 'you' still have,
unlike
other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...
...and that was only a tiny sample
of the countless examples of why the wise,
keep, The First Commandment, First and Last.
The First Commandment of The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE In This Real World,
BEFORE OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH...
Scientists claim bacteria fossils discovered
in Port Hedland
are more than 3.4 billion years old
From:AAP
August 22, 2011 9:00AM
A 3D image of the 3.4 billion-year-old microfossil found in Western Australia. Picture: AFP / David Wacey and Derek Gertsmann.
Strelley Pool in Pilbara region of Western Australia
where the fossils were found. Picture: AFP / David Wacey
SCIENTISTS in Western Australia have uncovered fossils which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.
A team of researchers from the University of WA and Britain's
Oxford University say they have proof that the microscopic fossils,
found at Strelley Pool near Port Hedland, are more than 3.4 billion
years old.
The
sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved between quartz sand
grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks, Oxford University's Professor
Martin Brasier said.
"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils) as the rocks were formed between two
volcanic successions that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of
millions of years," he said in a statement.
The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.
"At last we have good solid evidence for life over 3.4 billion
years ago. It confirms there were bacteria at this time, living without
oxygen," Prof Brasier said.
"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in smelly ditches,
soil, hot springs, hydrothermal vents —
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."
In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced that must be satisfied by researchers before claims can
be made about the age of fossils.
The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that the forms seen in
the rocks are biological and have not occurred through some mineralisation process,
Prof Brasier said.
"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils, and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."
true lilly- Posts : 6205
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Age : 63
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
ah shut up you liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try being a truthful, loving person and your problems will dissapear. As long as you continue to lie you will have problems.
Sad but true Billyboy.
Suzi aka 'tru lilly' doesn't seem to comprehend the Bible is NOT a History Book, it is a Book of Instruction-Torah. Which she abuses.
Read any book on Evolutionary Biology and the Atmosphere we breathe preceded mankind. The Genesis Enigma by Andrew Parker.
Did you notice how she has completely contradicted herself by citing the First commandment, which she doesn't follow?
1: It establishes abstract Ethical Monotheism-YHWH Elohim as the only living God, it is the Foundation of His Torah/Instruction, which Suzi doesn't co9mprehend and disregards making up her own nonsense.
2: The commandment declares YHWH liberated the Hebrews FROM Egypt/Mizraim.
Talk about cognitive dissonance, I can hear hers in the USA!
Anyway, she should obey the Commandment NOT to Bear false Witness, she would enjoy greater peace.
Hypocrites are always beset by anxieties and blame others for their own foibles.
Anyhoo, here is some wisdom she should heed, The Evil Tongue-The Lashon Hara.
Good investigative Journalism exposing Suzi billyboy.
The evil Tongue........
Pay attention Suzi!!!
http://www.lashonhara.org/
As for her citing the First Commandment, read it, it is the Foundation of YHWHs Torah-Instruction, which Suzi ignorantly tells her few readers is 'Done Away with' and they should believe her lies and deceptions.
Beware of Fale Prophets like Suzi aka 'tru lilly', she will lead you into danger.
Billy Ruben wrote:True Lilly wrote:
That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about
All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE
OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH...
well,stop fucking breathing and see how you go ya old bint,since you breathe oxygen and spread lies,slander and filth,I suppose you should classify yourself as Arch Evil.I do.Seek mental counselling or therapy you mad little thing
Sad but true Billyboy.
Suzi aka 'tru lilly' doesn't seem to comprehend the Bible is NOT a History Book, it is a Book of Instruction-Torah. Which she abuses.
Read any book on Evolutionary Biology and the Atmosphere we breathe preceded mankind. The Genesis Enigma by Andrew Parker.
Did you notice how she has completely contradicted herself by citing the First commandment, which she doesn't follow?
1: It establishes abstract Ethical Monotheism-YHWH Elohim as the only living God, it is the Foundation of His Torah/Instruction, which Suzi doesn't co9mprehend and disregards making up her own nonsense.
2: The commandment declares YHWH liberated the Hebrews FROM Egypt/Mizraim.
Talk about cognitive dissonance, I can hear hers in the USA!
Anyway, she should obey the Commandment NOT to Bear false Witness, she would enjoy greater peace.
Hypocrites are always beset by anxieties and blame others for their own foibles.
Anyhoo, here is some wisdom she should heed, The Evil Tongue-The Lashon Hara.
Good investigative Journalism exposing Suzi billyboy.
The evil Tongue........
Words Are Powerful
http://www.aish.com/f/p/48936067.html
Speech -- the ability to convey ideas and feelings through words -- is unique to human beings. It can be a tremendous blessing, but it's also ripe for abuse.
The words our children choose to use in expressing themselves help create their personal window on the world.
Positive forms of expression can help our children grow into positive, optimistic people who view the world around them with generous and hopeful eyes. Negative forms of expression, such as defamatory, mean-spirited speech, will cultivate in them a negative, cynical view of the world.
Speech That Is Evil
It's easy to fall prey to a destructive pattern of speaking badly about others and gossiping -- to the point where it becomes a recreational activity! In order to enjoy the many people in our lives, we have to stop verbalizing the negativity and focus on their positive virtues. This takes a lot of effort but is essential in raising happy children.
If we're always finding fault, we will naturally be dissatisfied, disappointed and displeased, and so will be our children.
Raising happy children requires us to impart to our offspring the ability to look at everything positively --situations, places and material objects. Most important of all is how they view people.
Torah calls "evil language" anything negative, even if it's true.The Hebrew term for speaking badly of others is called lashon hara, literally "evil language." Interestingly, the Torah calls "evil language" anything negative, even if it's true. (Slander -- malicious, false information is called motzi shem ra, literally "giving another a bad name.")
In sharp contrast to the Western adage about sticks and stones not hurting, Judaism looks very gravely upon misuse of speech. Our tradition teaches that lashon hara can destroy many lives, even unintentionally, in one fell swoop:
•the person speaking,
•the person spoken about,
•and the person spoken to.
Let's look at why.
•The person speaking: Although you briefly become the center of attention when you dish out a juicy piece of gossip, in the long run people start mistrusting you. "Gee, I wonder what she says about me when I'm not around." People don't trust gossips and will avoid confiding in you. In the end, you're killing your own reputation. Furthermore, because you are misusing the gift of speech that God gave you, you are also lessened in His eyes.
•The person spoken about: The person under discussion is, of course, being killed in everyone's eyes. Whether the information is true or false, it is hard to take back defamatory words already spoken and undo the character assassination already committed. That person's reputation is forever blemished.
•The person spoken to: Interestingly enough, this is the person who is the most culpable, even though s/he is seemingly the innocent one. All s/he did was listen! But the Talmud says that listening to lashon hara is even worse than speaking it; the person had the power to stop it and didn't. Now the transgression is complete.
Exceptions to the Rule
Of course, there are times we are all owed to speak share negative information about others; in fact, there are times it is an obligation to do so. For example - when a friend is about to be become financially involved with a person we know to be unethical, or seriously dating a person we know to be abusive or otherwise unsuitable. Or when a child has information that will prevent harm from occurring.
Common Fallacies
Beware of the excuses children and adults often use for speaking lashon hara:
•"But it's true!" Lashon hara specifically refers to sharing derogatory information when it is true. Spreading vicious lies is far worse!
•"If she were here I would say it to her face." Maybe you would, and maybe you wouldn't. In any case, it is still forbidden.
•"Everyone knows about it." Does this justify you adding fuel to the fire? Even if it is on the front page of the newspaper, you are still forbidden to speak about it.
Parenting Tools
Teaching our children to avoid speaking lashon hara takes a concerted effort. Experiment with the following tools:
1.Teach by example. Showing children that it's a priority for you is perhaps the most important lesson. Don't let them hear your gossiping with your friends or relatives. Don't let them hear you laughing at other people's expense. Even better than "don't let them hear you" is not doing it -- whether they're in earshot or not.
2.Discuss the importance of avoiding lashon hara. Help your children identify what is and isn't proper speech. Talk about how improper speech can hurt others and how it hurts the person speaking lashon hara. There are a number of excellent Jewish books that can help you.
3.Discourage "tattling." When your kids come to "tell on" someone, tell them you aren't interested in reports of someone else's bad behavior, but that you're available if they need help or advice.
4.Get in the habit of not using names. There's no need for you to know the names of problem students at school unless you'll have a direct role in addressing the issue. Focus the discussion on your child's feelings, worries and concerns. If he or she needs protection that requires your intervention, tell him or her that it is proper to tell you the name of the offending child.
5.Don't fall into the trap of casual lashon hara. At dinner and at other family times, bring books to the table to discuss or talk about current events. When you discuss what happened in each person's day, focus on what they learned that day and how they felt. Show your children that there are more interesting things to talk about than other people's poor behavior.
6.Give positive reinforcement. Be sure to commend your kids when they manage to tell you about school or neighborhood problems without mentioning who was involved. Let them know that you're proud of them - and that God is too.
7.Reminders! Tape a reminder to the telephone: "No Lashon Hara!" Put up signs on the fridge and in other prominent locations around the house.
8.Study it. Read a small section of the laws of lashon hara each day during dinner or at your Shabbat table. Encourage discussion and examples
Pay attention Suzi!!!
http://www.lashonhara.org/
What Counts As Lashon Hara?Posted on July 23, 2010 by admin Rabbi Finkelman, in his Purity of Speech adaptation of the Chofetz Chaim’s Sefer Shmirat Halashon, teaches that the immediate physical punishment for speaking lashon hara can be seen as having benefitted the Jews back when this punishment was in effect. Jews who spoke lashon hara were punished with Tzaraat – leprosy. How could being struck with leprosy possibly be a good thing?
Rabbi Finkelman explains that when leprosy was the consequence of speaking lashon hara, Jews were conscious of when they’d misspoken. They knew what counted as lashon hara. Today, you often hear people defend their gossiping by saying that it isn’t lashon hara. People know they should speak kindly about their fellows, but it’s difficult. To avoid feeling bad, they justify their unkind words as something that doesn’t qualify as lashon hara.
In the Bible, Miriam is struck with leprosy for speaking ill of her brother Moses. In the following Parasha, the spies are sent to scout out the land. One well-known way of interpreting the Torah is by considering juxtapositions, things placed alongside each other.
Rashi explains why these two stories, seemingly unrelated, are stuck together. The spies – who were leaders of the 12 tribes of the Children of Israel – should have learned from Miriam’s punishment. They should have seen how dangerous speaking lashon hara is.
Unfortunately, they didn’t learn the lesson. And as a result of their negative report, G’ decided that that generation would not enter the land of Israel, but die in the desert. Thus began 40 years of wandering in the desert. And during that time, the whole generation died. (They’d asked Moses to send spies into Israel.)
When in doubt as to what counts as lashon hara, it’s better to keep quiet. Lashon hara carries serious consequences, even if they’re not as immediately obvious today, as they once were.
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How To Constructively Criticize And ChidePosted on May 11, 2010 by admin (This continues the second story discussed in How To React To Lashon Hara. Lashon Hara is Hebrew for speaking negatively – albeit truthfully – about others.) In the same group studying Mishnah, there happened to be a younger student. He didn’t understand the full meaning of the siilence and so felt guilty regarding the unkind words (lashon hara).
Why feel guilty?
Because lashon hara destroys 3: The speaker, the hearer and the target. After Havdalah, the youth approached the Rabbi who’d only discussed the Mishnah without deviating into lashon hara, and asked to speak privately.
Once they were behind closed doors, the student said, “The course was great, so I’d like to thank you and the others for teaching us so well.” “Thankyou,” answered the Rabbi.
“There was just one little thing that bothered me, though – the other Rabbi’s comments on those he disagrees with politically,” continued the student. “I’m not sure whether it was or wasn’t lashon hara, but it certainly put me in an awkward situation. I didn’t think it would be well-received if I chided the other Rabbi, being younger and less learned than him. Perhaps you might speak to him?” he asked.
“The whole group felt that way,” responded the Rav. “That’s why there was the silence [due to the discomfort and disapproval.]”
The story has several important takeaways on offering criticism.
How To Provide Constructive Criticism And Chiding
1) Avoid embarassment and ensure effectiveness by seeking a private discussion. No one likes to hear that they’re wrong and especially not in front of others, which would cause them to lose face.
To avoid putting others on the defensive and to pre-empt a fruitless confrontation, seek a private forum after others have left. This is why the student waited until after Havdala, and went to a private room to avoid being overheard.
2) Praise before criticizing. In theory, a person may sense that praise is being given to soften upcoming criticism, and they may doubt the sincerity of the praise. But in practice, any such considerations fall by the wayside for two reasons.
First, emotionally, we all appreciate compliments and this tends to suffice to trump rational skepticism. Second, since we tend to view ourselves and our actions positively, we believe praise we receive on the grounds that it is true, even if the motive for giving it is to ease a path for constructive criticism. I’ve certainly never heard someone respond, when told they were generous and kind, “I’m a cheap jerk! What are you talking about?!”
Of course, it’s best to give praise one genuinely believes, for optimal results. This is especially true if it can be supported based on an event we’ve seen.
Often, however, even compliments that we cannot justify from our own experience with the person may suffice. The Haggadah says, “All of us are intelligent, all of us are righteous, all of us know the Torah.” (“Koulanu chachamim, koulanu tzadikkim, koulanou yod’im et haTorah.”) So praising a person’s intelligence, good deeds and/or knowledge of Torah are generally applicable type compliments that we can use in the absence of something more contextually appropriate.
3) Let the right person for the situation offer the constructive criticism. Age, perceived expertise, pre-existing friendship and other factors affect who is the “right” critic.
Ultimately, it is someone who the target of the constructive criticism will heed and not feel ashamed to receive criticism from.
Again, protecting dignity is key. Often, a close friend or family member is best, or at least a trusted peer, because they are known to mean well [in the target's mind],
How Abraham Would Give Constructive Criticism
In the story of Soddom, Abraham questions G’ as to whether He will really destory the city despite the possibility that some righteous people may reside there. Onkelos’ translation/interpretation adds the words, “Too True Are Your Judgments,” to Abraham’s chiding of G’. It’s unclear what the source of Onkelos’ addition is, but either way, the story sets an excellent example.
First, Abraham begins with praise.
Second, the text explicitly says that Abraham waited until the other members of his group had already travelled onwards. He was addressing G’ privately.
And we know that Abraham smashed his father’s idols and brought people to monotheism. The former demonstrates a love and respect for both G’ (similar to seeking the wellbeing of the object of the constructive criticism) and the latter point shows love for his fellow men (e.g. expertise in the subject of monotheism and appreciation of G’). So Abraham was the right person to plead Soddom’s case.
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How To React To Lashon HaraPosted on May 11, 2010 by admin A Story of Reacting to Lashon Hara at Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva
Rav Nir ? of Machon Meir Yeshiva once shared with us a story of Rav Aviner’s experience at Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva.
On Rav Aviner’s first day there, he happened to sit near the advanced students (avrechim). As they were discussing, one of the avrechim suddenly leapt backwards as if he were about to be stung by a scorpion! “Lashon Hara!” he shouted, interrupting another of the avrechim in mid sentence, in anticipation of the point about to be made. The avrech who’d been speaking didn’t finish the sentence.
(The avrech who leapt backwards was Rav Dov Bigon, Chief Rabbi of Machon Meir (Rosh Yeshiva). )
Obviously, this was an extraordinary reaction of a unique individual (in the positive sense) in the company of a particular, learned group. Our reaction in a similar situation must be appropriate to the circumstances. The following anecdote further illustrates the idea.
It happened once upon a time that a group of men were studying the Mishna during the third Shabbat meal (seuda shlishit). One Rav, in commenting and explaining a passage, went off on a tangent. The Rav who spoke after him expounded further, then went on to speak harshly of those whose political views were opposed to his own. (It was somewhat related to the discussion.)
The others in the group met the political aside with an uncomfortable silence, whereupon the Rav who’d made the comment and the first Rav returned to the topic of the Mishna. The meaning of the silence – i.e. disapproval – was clear to the Rav who spoke lashon hara, which explains why he immediately dropped the topic.
Two More Ways To React To Lashon Hara
In addition to the possible reaction presented in the first story, another two ways of reacting to lashon hara are presented by this parable. One reaction is silence. The other reaction is to change the topic.
1) Silence. In the context of lashon hara, silence indicates a few things. First, it is the opposite action to joining in with the lashon hara and piling on the unfortunate target. Second, silence – to those attuned to non-verbal communication – expresses disapproval and/or disagreement without saying so explicitly. Thus, there is an instant reaction - which prevents sinking further into the muckraking – without risking embarasshing the person who spoke ill of his fellow.
Note: This is dependent on the speaker being attuned to non-verbal communication and not just being oblivious, thinking perhaps that the silence is just rapt attention.
2) Changing the topic. This is another time-honoured tactic for avoiding uncomfortable discussiong and cutting them short once begun. In the above anecdote, the speaker himself changed the topic along with the other Rav.
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How To Avoid Lashon HaraPosted on May 5, 2010 by admin Avoiding Lashon Hara, aka Gossip About Others’ Bad Behaviour
Lashon Hara is based in a feeling of superiority
To be able to speak unkindly about another person, you have to consider yourself superior to that person. Specifically, you need to consider yourself superior in that field in which you’re attacking the other person. If you were at the same level, it would be pretty foolish to attack others – the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
Yet, even if it’s true that we do such or such a mitzva that someone else doesn’t do, or otherwise do really behave in a way that is superior to another person’s behaviour, that mitzva must be put in its proper context.
The context of our comparison
What is it that helps us realize that the implicit comparison between our behaviour and theirs is wrong? It’s the role of G’ in our daily lives.
Rabbi Haim Moshe Luzzato’s book Mesilat Yesharim, the Path of the Just/Righteous, develops this point. The Path of the Just teaches us that the more mitzvot we accomplish, the more humble we must be.
That’s a pretty counter-intuitive statement! Normally, the better we behave, the more we can feel proud in our accomplishments, even if we recognize this should remain internal (to avoid being boastful). The explanation for this paradox is the role of G’ in our daily lives.
Mesilat Yesharim explains this by analogy us to a poor person who receives a gift. The greater the gift, the greater the poor person’s embarassment relative to his mediocre financial status. In our largely middle class society, we might understand this better by thinking of the last time we tried to give a gift to the “friend who has everything.” The difficulty finding him a gift is because he already has everything. Inversely, the poor person has very little.
Likewise, we all start as babies with no knowledge of the Torah, mitzvot etc. It’s only by divine generosity that we have the opportunity to accomplish mitzvot. It’s the old question of nature / nurture. While our own efforts are not to be belittled, G’ is responsible for giving us the chance to accomplish the mitzvot. We can’t ignore “nature” [read: G'].
For example, a Bar Mitzvah boy who puts on tefillin thanks his parents for buying them for him. Sure he’s putting them on, but he was lucky to have parents who put him in that situation. And while they worked to afford those tefillin, obviously G’ had a role to play in making their efforts at earning a living successful.
It’s not for nothing that we refer to G’ as Avinu Shebashamayim, Our Father In Heaven.
This teaches us 2 lessons.
1. The greater one’s achievements in the Torah, the less merit one must have had to start with! What is amazing about the marathon runner who crosses the finish line isn’t that he’s now completed the race (his current state), but that he came from 42 km distance away! Therefore, it’s better to avoid speaking Lashon Hara about others, lest others bring up our the distant point from which we began our own marathon.
2. Our good deeds are only partially attributable to us. While it’s true that we chose to make an effort and do them, G’ put us in a fertile environment and gave us the opportunity to accomplish those mitzvot.
This leads to another piece of advice given by Rav Luzzato in mesilat Yesharim. In our moments of pride, we should recall all the times where we’ve made stumbled along the way. Even King David, of whom some comment that he never erred, said of himself “And I am but a worm and ashes.” (The anecdote with Bat-Sheva and Uri the Hittite is in dispute as to whether it constitutes a mistake on the part of David.)
In sum:
a) Lashon hara is based on feelign superior relative to others.
b) That feeling is vain because
(i) whoever has improved themselves was imperfect to begin with and
(ii) their improvement is largely attributable to G’.
Just as we don’t boast about our hair colour, which we didn’t choose, we shouldn’t speak badly about others whose conditions have been different and thus lacked the opportunity to improve themselves.
Lashon Hara As Blasphemy – Desecrating G’s Name
Other people’s circumstances are largely influenced by G’, just like our own circumstances. If we speak badly about someone else who doesn’t accomplish X or Y mitzva, what we’re saying indirectly is that G’ is unjust. Why? Because He didn’t give them as favourable circumstances as our own.
The problem with that is that we can’t understand G’ to a sufficient degree in order to be able to judge him. We can have recognition towards him – hakarat hatov – which is the basis for loving – ahavat – G’ .
But when He acts in a way that appears difficult to us to understand – e.g. our difficulties understanding the Shoah (Holocaust) – we’re better off reserving our judgement to avoid desecrating G’s Name (chilloul H’), even if it’s only an unintentional desecration.
(The book Sichot HaRav Tzvi Yehuda sheds some light on the question of the Holocaust. It’s translated into English as Torat Eretz Israel by Rabbi David Samson.)
Finally, I’d like to return to that idea of humility based on a retrospective view of the long way we’ve come. As we continue to make progress, we realize that there’s still a long road ahead of us. Thankfully, “the Eternal Nation isn’t intimidated by the long road.” (Am Hanetzach Lo Mephached MeDerech Arucka.)
Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra
http://www.jewfaq.org/speech.htm
Level: Intermediate
• Gossip and slander are serious sins in Judaism
• Judaism forbids causing any deception or embarrassment through speech
• It is forbidden even if the statement is true
• There are some exceptions that allow tale-bearing
When non-observant people talk about how difficult it is to observe Jewish law, they usually mention the difficulty of observing Shabbat or keeping kosher or other similarly detailed rituals. Yet the laws that are most difficult to keep, that are most commonly violated even by observant Jews, are the laws regarding improper speech. This is a very important area of Jewish law; entire books have been written on the subject.
The Power of Speech
Judaism is intensely aware of the power of speech and of the harm that can be done through speech. The rabbis note that the universe itself was created through speech. Of the 43 sins enumerated in the Al Cheit confession recited on Yom Kippur, 11 are sins committed through speech. The Talmud tells that the tongue is an instrument so dangerous that it must be kept hidden from view, behind two protective walls (the mouth and teeth) to prevent its misuse.
The harm done by speech is even worse than the harm done by stealing or by cheating someone financially: money lost can be repaid, but the harm done by speech can never be repaired. For this reason, some sources indicate that there is no forgiveness for lashon ha-ra (disparaging speech). This is probably hyperbole, but it illustrates the seriousness of improper speech. A Chasidic tale vividly illustrates the danger of improper speech: A man went about the community telling malicious lies about the rabbi. Later, he realized the wrong he had done, and began to feel remorse. He went to the rabbi and begged his forgiveness, saying he would do anything he could to make amends. The rabbi told the man, "Take a feather pillow, cut it open, and scatter the feathers to the winds." The man thought this was a strange request, but it was a simple enough task, and he did it gladly. When he returned to tell the rabbi that he had done it, the rabbi said, "Now, go and gather the feathers. Because you can no more make amends for the damage your words have done than you can recollect the feathers."
Speech has been compared to an arrow: once the words are released, like an arrow, they cannot be recalled, the harm they do cannot be stopped, and the harm they do cannot always be predicted, for words like arrows often go astray.
Tale-Bearing
There are two mitzvot in the Torah that specifically address improper speech: Thou shalt not go up and down as a tale-bearer among thy people (Lev. 19:16), and ye shall not wrong one another (Lev. 25:17, which according to tradition refers to wronging a person with speech).
Tale-bearing is, essentially, any gossip. The Hebrew word for tale-bearer is "rakhil" (Reish-Kaf-Yod-Lamed), which is related to a word meaning trader or merchant. The idea is that a tale-bearer is like a merchant, but he deals in information instead of goods. In our modern "Information Age," the idea of information as a product has become more clear than ever before, yet it is present even here in the Torah.
It is a violation of this mitzvah to say anything about another person, even it is true, even if it is not negative, even if it is not secret, even if it hurts no one, even if the person himself would tell the same thing if asked! It is said that the telling of gossip leads to bloodshed, which is why the next words in the Torah are "you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed." The story of Do'eig the Edomite (I Samuel Chs. 21-22) is often used to illustrate the harm that can be done by tale-bearing. Do'eig saw Achimelekh the Kohein give David bread and a sword, a completely innocent act intended to aid a leading member of Saul's court. Do'eig reported this to Saul. Do'eig's story was completely true, not negative, not secret, and Achimelekh would have told Saul exactly the same thing if asked (in fact, he did so later). Yet Saul misinterpreted this tale as proof that Achimelekh was supporting David in a rebellion, and proceeded to slaughter all but one of the kohanim at Nob.
The person who listens to gossip is even worse than the person who tells it, because no harm could be done by gossip if no one listened to it. It has been said that lashon ha-ra (disparaging speech) kills three: the person who speaks it, the person who hears it, and the person about whom it is told. (Talmud Arachin 15b).
In Jewish law, all things are considered to be secret unless a person specifically says otherwise. For this reason, you will note that in the Torah, G-d constantly says to Moses, "Speak to the Children of Israel, saying:" or "Speak to the Children of Israel and tell them:" If G-d did not specifically say this to Moses, Moses would be forbidden to repeat his words! Nor is there any time-limit on secrets. The Talmud tells the story of a student who revealed a secret that he had heard 22 years earlier, and he was immediately banished from the house of study! (Talmud Sanhedrin 31a)
The gravest of these sins of tale-bearing is lashon ha-ra (literally, "the evil tongue"), which involves discrediting a person or saying negative things about a person, even if those negative things are true. Indeed, true statements are even more damaging than false ones, because you can't defend yourself by disproving the negative statement if it's true! Some sources indicate that lashon ha-ra is equal in seriousness to murder, idol worship, and incest/adultery (the only three sins that you may not violate even to save a life).
It is forbidden to even imply or suggest negative things about a person. It is forbidden to say negative things about a person, even in jest. It is likewise considered a "shade of lashon ha-ra" to say positive things about a person in the presence of his enemies, because this will encourage his enemies to say negative things to contradict you!
One who tells disparaging things that are false is referred to as a motzi sheim ra, that is, one who spreads a bad report. This is considered the lowest of the low.
It is generally not a sin to repeat things that have been told "in the presence of three persons." The idea is that if it is told in the presence of three persons, it is already public knowledge, and no harm can come of retelling it. However, even in this case, you should not repeat it if you know you will be spreading the gossip further.
When Tale-Bearing is Allowed
There are a few exceptional circumstances when tale-bearing is allowed, or even required. Most notably, tale-bearing is required in a Jewish court of law, because it is a mitzvah to give testimony and that mitzvah overrides the general prohibition against tale-bearing. Thus, a person is required to reveal information, even if it is something that was explicitly told in confidence, even if it will harm a person, in a Jewish court of law.
A person is also required to reveal information to protect a person from immediate, serious harm. For example, if a person hears that others are plotting to kill someone, he is required to reveal this information. That is another reason why the commandment not to go about as a tale-bearer is juxtaposed with "you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed."
In limited circumstances, one is also permitted to reveal information if someone is entering into a relationship that he would not enter if he knew certain information. For example, it may be permissible to tell a person that his prospective business partner is untrustworthy, or that a prospective spouse has a disease. This exception is subject to significant and complex limitations; however, if those limitations are satisfied, the person with the information is required to reveal it.
In all of these exceptions, a person is not permitted to reveal information if the same objective could be fulfilled without revealing information. For example, if you could talk a person out of marrying for reasons other than the disease, you may not reveal the disease.
Wronging a Person through Speech
Leviticus 25:17 says, "You shall not wrong one another." This has traditionally been interpreted as wronging a person with speech. It includes any statement that will embarrass, insult or deceive a person, or cause a person emotional pain or distress.
Here are some commonly-used examples of behavior that is forbidden by this mitzvah:
•You may not call a person by a derogatory nickname, or by any other embarrassing name, even if he is used to it.
•You may not ask an uneducated person for an opinion on a scholarly matter (that would draw attention to his lack of knowledge or education).
•You may not ask a merchant how much he would sell something for if you have no intention of buying.
•You may not refer someone to another person for assistance when you know the other person cannot help (in other words, it's a violation of Jewish law to give someone the run-around!).
•You may not deceive a person, even if no harm is done by the deception; for example, you may not sell non-kosher meat to a non-Jew telling him that it is kosher, even though no harm is done to the non-Jew by this deception.
•You may not sell a person damaged goods without identifying the damage, even if the price you give is fair for the goods in their damaged condition.
•You may not offer a person a gift or invite a person to dinner if you know that the person will not accept.
•You may not compliment a person if you do not mean it.
Links for Further Reading
Torah.org offers an online course on the Ethics of Speech, studying the laws of proper speech as defined in the Sefer Chafetz Chayim
As for her citing the First Commandment, read it, it is the Foundation of YHWHs Torah-Instruction, which Suzi ignorantly tells her few readers is 'Done Away with' and they should believe her lies and deceptions.
The Purpose of the Commandments
http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/346666/jewish/The-Purpose-of-the-Commandments.htm
By Tali Loewenthal
The Ten Commandments are in many ways the highlight of the entire Torah. But the Midrash1 makes a surprising statement: it says that the first word of the Ten Commandments is in the Egyptian language. What does this mean?
The Ten Commandments are the summary of the entire Torah. They were heard from G-d by the entire Jewish people. The first Command, "I am G-d, your G-d, who took you out of the Land of Egypt" is the basic statement of our special relationship with the Infinite. The first word, Anokhi, means, "I am." G-d is speaking of Himself, and communicating with us.
The Midrash is intriguing. It says this first word Anokhi is Egyptian, because G-d wanted to speak with us in the language we had learnt while we were in Egypt. This tells us something about the nature of Torah and of being a Jew. G-d does not want to relate to us only on the sacred, spiritual level of our lives, represented by Hebrew, the holy language. He wants to reach the earthly "Egyptian" dimension as well.
We should not try to pretend that we do not have this lower aspect. Rather, we should try to control it, then elevate it and ultimately transform it into something holy.
G-d helps us in this task: there are Jewish teachings about every aspect of life, including the most basic. The mitzvot (commandments) connect us to G-d on every level of our being. For this reason Anokhi, the first word of the Ten Commandments, is in Egyptian: it reaches down to the "Egyptian" person inside us and transforms him or her into a Jew. 2
Meeting Point
The Sages tell us that every Jewish soul ever to be born was present at the giving of the Torah. This includes every single person who would ever become a true proselyte to Judaism. It was a moment of meeting of the entire Jewish people together, and a meeting of the Jewish people with G-d.
The recognition of G-d which was experienced at Sinai remains in the heart of every Jew, and is the spark of his or her Jewish identity.
Further, during his forty days and nights on Mount Sinai the entire Torah was revealed to Moses. The Sages tell us that "Every new idea which would ever be suggested by a scholar in discussion with his teacher - was told to Moses at Sinai".
Sinai was therefore the ultimate meeting point of G-d, the entire Jewish people and the Torah.
Beware of Fale Prophets like Suzi aka 'tru lilly', she will lead you into danger.
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Re: IGNORE: you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
better take a look at this suzi aka tru lilly.
somebody should show her this:
Counting Backwards from Now
60 years ago - Invention of the computer.
130 years ago - Invention of the telephone.
180 years ago - Fossil fuel revolution: coal, trains.
540 years ago - Invention of the printing press.
5,500 years ago - Invention of the wheel, writing.
7,600 years ago - Sahara desert starts forming in northern Africa.
8,800 years ago - The first cities.
10,300 years ago - End of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.
12,700 - 11,500 years ago - the Younger Dryas.
18,000 years ago - Cultivation of plants, herding of animals. Homo sapiens arrives in the Americas.
21,000 years ago - Last glacial maximum: ice sheets down to the Great Lakes, the mouth of the Rhine, and covering the British Isles.
32,000 years ago - Oldest known cave paintings.
35,000 years ago - Invention of the calendar, extinction of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens arrives in Europe.
50,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in central Asia.
100,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in the Middle East.
110,000 years ago - Beginning of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.
130,000 years ago - Beginning of the Eemian interglacial.
200,000 years ago - Beginning of the 2nd most recent glacial period: the Wolstonian glaciation.
250,000 years ago - First Homo sapiens.
350,000 years ago - First Homo neanderthalensis.
380,000 years ago - Beginning of the Hoxnian interglacial.
450,000 years ago - Beginning of the 3rd most recent glacial period: the Kansan glaciation, during which ice sheets reached their maximum extent in the Pleistocene, down to Kansas and Slovakia.
620,000 years ago - Beginning of the Cromerian interglacial.
1.4 million years ago - First firemaking by humans.
1.9 million years ago - First Homo erectus.
2.5 million years ago - First Homo habilis. Beginning of a period of repeated glaciation (loosely speaking, "ice ages").
3 million years - Cooling trend causes year-round ice to form at the North Pole.
3.9 million years ago - First known Australopithecus afarensis.
5 million years ago - Humans split off from other apes (gorillas and chimpanzees).
21 million years ago - Apes split off from other monkeys.
24 million years ago - Cooling trend causes the formation of grasslands; Antarctica becomes covered with ice.
34 million years ago - Gondwanaland finishes breaking up, with Australia and South America separating from Antarctica.
50 million years ago - India begins to collide with Asia, eventually forming the Himalayas.
67 million years ago - Asteroid hit Mexico, causing the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. End of dinosaurs. 50% of all species died out! Intensification of world cooling trend.
114 million years ago - First modern mammals. World begins to cool.
150 million years ago - First birds.
200 million years ago - Pangaea began to split into separate continents: Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north, separated by the Tethys Sea.
205 million years ago - The Triassic-Jurassic extinction. End of large amphibians and many reptiles.
235 million years ago - First dinosaurs, flowers.
250 million years ago - The Permian-Triassic extinction. 90% of all species died out! Formation of the supercontinent Pangaea, with surrounding ocean Panthalassa.
313 million years ago - First reptiles.
365 million years ago - The Late Devonian extinction. 70% of marine species died out! First amphibians, trees.
395 million years ago - First insects on land.
415 million years ago - The Old Red Sandstone Continent, also known as Laurussia, is formed by the collision of Baltica and Laurentia at the beginning of the Devonian.
440 million years ago - The Ordovician-Silurian extinction. Most marine species died out.
670 million years ago - First animals.
630-850 million years ago - The Cryogenian Period, also known as Snowball Earth - the worst ice age in the Earth's history.
800 million years ago - The supercontinent Rodinia begins to break up.
1 billion years ago - Formation of the supercontinent Rodinia
1.3 billion years ago - First plants.
1.6 billion years ago - First blue-green algae.
2.4 billion years ago - The Great Oxidation Event: the Earth's atmosphere gets oxygen.
3 billion years ago - Formation of the first known continent, Ur.
3.8 - 4 billion years ago - The Late Heavy Bombardment: a period during which the Earth, Moon, Venus and Mars were subjected to many asteroid impacts, after a relatively calm period of several million years.
4 billion years ago - First life on Earth.
4.45 billion years ago - Formation of Earth complete; storm of asteroid impacts.
4.5 billion years ago - Formation of the Moon: according to the Giant Impact Hypothesis, this happened when Theia collided with proto-Earth.
4.55 billion years ago - Formation of the Solar System.
13.3 billion years ago - Reionization: the first stars heat and ionize hydrogen gas.
13.3 - 13.7 billion years ago - The Dark Ages, after the formation of hydrogen and before the first stars.
13.7 billion years ago - The Big Bang: beginning of the universe as we know it!
FYI, the Land of UZ is Saudi Arabia, Book of Job.
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:True Lilly, Please Stop Spamming The Shit Out Of This Forum...!!!
If You Carry On With The Same Posts Over The Whole Forum,
I Will Delete Them , Apart From The Original Post...
I Will Also Ban Your Arse...
But You Can Rejoin As Vera Suza...
It's Too Much Work Now To Delete All Your Spamming...!!!
somebody should show her this:
Counting Backwards from Now
60 years ago - Invention of the computer.
130 years ago - Invention of the telephone.
180 years ago - Fossil fuel revolution: coal, trains.
540 years ago - Invention of the printing press.
5,500 years ago - Invention of the wheel, writing.
7,600 years ago - Sahara desert starts forming in northern Africa.
8,800 years ago - The first cities.
10,300 years ago - End of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.
12,700 - 11,500 years ago - the Younger Dryas.
18,000 years ago - Cultivation of plants, herding of animals. Homo sapiens arrives in the Americas.
21,000 years ago - Last glacial maximum: ice sheets down to the Great Lakes, the mouth of the Rhine, and covering the British Isles.
32,000 years ago - Oldest known cave paintings.
35,000 years ago - Invention of the calendar, extinction of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens arrives in Europe.
50,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in central Asia.
100,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in the Middle East.
110,000 years ago - Beginning of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.
130,000 years ago - Beginning of the Eemian interglacial.
200,000 years ago - Beginning of the 2nd most recent glacial period: the Wolstonian glaciation.
250,000 years ago - First Homo sapiens.
350,000 years ago - First Homo neanderthalensis.
380,000 years ago - Beginning of the Hoxnian interglacial.
450,000 years ago - Beginning of the 3rd most recent glacial period: the Kansan glaciation, during which ice sheets reached their maximum extent in the Pleistocene, down to Kansas and Slovakia.
620,000 years ago - Beginning of the Cromerian interglacial.
1.4 million years ago - First firemaking by humans.
1.9 million years ago - First Homo erectus.
2.5 million years ago - First Homo habilis. Beginning of a period of repeated glaciation (loosely speaking, "ice ages").
3 million years - Cooling trend causes year-round ice to form at the North Pole.
3.9 million years ago - First known Australopithecus afarensis.
5 million years ago - Humans split off from other apes (gorillas and chimpanzees).
21 million years ago - Apes split off from other monkeys.
24 million years ago - Cooling trend causes the formation of grasslands; Antarctica becomes covered with ice.
34 million years ago - Gondwanaland finishes breaking up, with Australia and South America separating from Antarctica.
50 million years ago - India begins to collide with Asia, eventually forming the Himalayas.
67 million years ago - Asteroid hit Mexico, causing the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. End of dinosaurs. 50% of all species died out! Intensification of world cooling trend.
114 million years ago - First modern mammals. World begins to cool.
150 million years ago - First birds.
200 million years ago - Pangaea began to split into separate continents: Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north, separated by the Tethys Sea.
205 million years ago - The Triassic-Jurassic extinction. End of large amphibians and many reptiles.
235 million years ago - First dinosaurs, flowers.
250 million years ago - The Permian-Triassic extinction. 90% of all species died out! Formation of the supercontinent Pangaea, with surrounding ocean Panthalassa.
313 million years ago - First reptiles.
365 million years ago - The Late Devonian extinction. 70% of marine species died out! First amphibians, trees.
395 million years ago - First insects on land.
415 million years ago - The Old Red Sandstone Continent, also known as Laurussia, is formed by the collision of Baltica and Laurentia at the beginning of the Devonian.
440 million years ago - The Ordovician-Silurian extinction. Most marine species died out.
670 million years ago - First animals.
630-850 million years ago - The Cryogenian Period, also known as Snowball Earth - the worst ice age in the Earth's history.
800 million years ago - The supercontinent Rodinia begins to break up.
1 billion years ago - Formation of the supercontinent Rodinia
1.3 billion years ago - First plants.
1.6 billion years ago - First blue-green algae.
2.4 billion years ago - The Great Oxidation Event: the Earth's atmosphere gets oxygen.
3 billion years ago - Formation of the first known continent, Ur.
3.8 - 4 billion years ago - The Late Heavy Bombardment: a period during which the Earth, Moon, Venus and Mars were subjected to many asteroid impacts, after a relatively calm period of several million years.
4 billion years ago - First life on Earth.
4.45 billion years ago - Formation of Earth complete; storm of asteroid impacts.
4.5 billion years ago - Formation of the Moon: according to the Giant Impact Hypothesis, this happened when Theia collided with proto-Earth.
4.55 billion years ago - Formation of the Solar System.
13.3 billion years ago - Reionization: the first stars heat and ionize hydrogen gas.
13.3 - 13.7 billion years ago - The Dark Ages, after the formation of hydrogen and before the first stars.
13.7 billion years ago - The Big Bang: beginning of the universe as we know it!
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