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Post  true lilly Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:34 pm

...and don't even try to look/sound like a person...
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Post  true lilly Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:30 pm

"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...
a LOVER of LIES, PLAGIARIST
(NOT a CREATIVE bone in him),
ANTI CREATOR, ANTI CREATION,
ANTI LIFE, ANTI TRUTH, and,
ANTI ANYONE DOING or RECEIVING
JUSTICE...
because NONE of HIS SELF GLORYING
is Justly earned or maintained...

ALL HE DOES is HUNT SACRIFICIAL Lambs
TO THROW to HIS WOLVES, and their
BLOODY REMAINS AT OTHER
WEAK, POWERLESS, INNOCENTS...

and, CAN'T SHUT UP about
WHAT A GREAT JOKE IT IS TO HIM
Evil or Very Mad
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3207
EVIL!

nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!


true lilly wrote:Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT 341151-call-of-duty
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA

Severe storm warning for Victoria
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6:27AM
Nathan Mawby

UPDATE 7am:

STORMS and lightning
sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau

warning the worst is yet to come.
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Biggest war of them all
VIDEO: Gamers turned out at midnight for
the launch of the highly anticipated
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

P.S. these are ALL on Today's MURDOCH Herald Sun
FRONT PAGE.
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Well, like most of my posts, the images have been removed
(mostly because I let those KEY Images, 'do most of the talking'),
but this page is timely and relevant now...as others have noticed
Wink
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

The following is only a little of what is relevant now
(much more at the link),
but I include it as, we also,
NOW have The Situation -
AFTER THE QUEEN HOSTED CHOGM
(COMMONWEALTH HEADS of GOVERNMENT MEETING)
IN AUSTRALIA -
that NOT ONLY CAN a
FEMALE INHERIT THE BRITISH CROWN
AHEAD of a Younger Male,
BUT, CATHOLICS ARE NO LONGER EXCLUDED!


Royal girls to get equal shot at crown - World news - Europe ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../royal-girls-get-equal-shot-crow... - United States
28 Oct 2011 – First-born daughters will have new right to inherit the throne ... able to pass her crown to her firstborn, Britain's Princess Victoria would have had
...

CatholicHerald.co.uk | Breaking news and opinion from the online ...
www.catholicherald.co.uk/
2 hours ago – Ban on British monarch marrying a Catholic to be lifted ...


The prince is a direct descendant of
Anne, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange,
eldest daughter of British King George II.
However, under the British Act of Settlement,
Prince Willem-Alexander forfeited his (distant)
succession rights to the throne
of the United Kingdom,

because he married a Roman Catholic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander,_Prince_of_Orange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A1xima_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Claus_of_the_Netherlands
tintin wrote:30-05-2008,
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The great Deception.
The Anti-christ is the great Deception.
All about "appearance" and empty hollow words that LOOK
to be honest but are the
opposite.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is the great DECEIVER.[/size]
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Máxima and her husband
at the White House,
11 September 2009
.

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You take paranoia to new heights Vera...
Just as you do with hypocrisy...
I see green is your colour of the moment...
And your usual switching of lower to upper case...
Wow! Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Rolleyes

WOW, alright...thanks again for more points
to educate folk about Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Smile!

"Paranoia" is when you see plots that are NOT THERE.

"Hypocrisy" is PRETENDING to be who/what you are NOT.


Me, I AM ME, STILL HERE for ANYONE to FIND & QUIZ.
Still fighting with a HACKED SICK Old p.c. that OFTEN
causes my posts to NOT APPEAR as I'VE posted or as I
WANT to post, so I make do, and occasionally apologise
for the messiness, explaining why.

But aside from all that, I DO CHANGE MY 'style' BECAUSE
I AM A REAL INDIVIDUAL, NOT a 'Bot' or ACTOR trying to
"KEEP IN CHARACTER", and so I enjoy the FREEDOM of
expressing SEASONAL changes and PERSONAL moods.

And as for my use of upper and lower case, it's simply
quicker and easier on my SICK p.c. than to BOLD and
UNDERLINE KEY POINTS...and God Knows I have enough
Posting Time STOLEN through countless little 'hack attacks'!
...


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The heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

Why Prince William and Prince Harry
are in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.


Heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

ANDREW PIERCE
November 24, 2009 - 3:53PM

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Princes William and Harry ....
in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.
Photo: Getty Images


When Prince Harry, proud in the red-collared coat of the Household
Cavalry, laid a wreath at the Cenotaph for the first time on Remembrance
Sunday it was another milestone in his coming of age as a senior member
of the Royal family. Unusually, he took precedence over Prince William,
a future King, because he was representing their father, who was
overseas with the Duchess of Cornwall.

But now the two princes have planted the first seeds of a long public
partnership with the creation of the "Charity Foundation of Prince
William and Prince Harry".

The venture underlines the closeness of the two brothers in a family not noted for its intimacy.

The Queen's four children rarely see each other socially and never
joined forces on specific charitable ventures like the one set up by
Prince William and Prince Harry, which has been registered at the
Charity Commission.

The brothers were always close but the devastating death of their
mother, Diana, Princess of Wales 12 years ago cemented their dependency
on each other. They are living together under the same roof for the
first time since they were teenagers, while they train at RAF Shawbury -
Prince Harry to fly Apache attack helicopters with the Army Air Corps
and Prince William to become a search-and-rescue pilot with the RAF.

Their decision to give at least a third of all the money raised by the
foundation to the welfare of the military, a cause championed by their
father and grandmother, will resonate with the public - a point not lost
on their advisers. The foundation is the most significant expansion of
their public profiles.

The truth is that both Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy.

For the first time since the reign of Queen Victoria both "the heir and the spare" are healthy adults.


Never before has there been a Prince of Wales as old as Prince Charles,
the longest-serving heir to the throne. The Queen, at 83, shows little
sign of slowing down.

Prince William knows his own position could also last decades if his father's health is as robust as his grandmother's.

It is why, at 27 and 25 respectively, the princes are already plotting
their future. They both want to avoid the mistakes made by their father,
who spent decades agonising about his role and purpose in public life.

The foundation will not just be a fitting testament to the legacy of
their mother; it is also a sign that the princes are ahead of their
father at the same stage in their apprenticeships.

The Prince of Wales set up the Prince's Trust, his first charitable
venture, with his $13,400 severance pay from the Royal Navy, while Prince William and Prince Harry could each have another decade in the forces.

Both the Queen and Prince of Wales hope the foundation is a further sign
that the princes have become more comfortable about the unenviable
prospect of devoting their entire lives to public duty in the often
unforgiving eye of the media.

Prince Harry, in particular, still blames the media for the death of his
mother, her car pursued by the Paris paparazzi into the Alma tunnel.

The expansion of their charitable ventures is also shrewd public relations.

Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at Oxford University, said:
"When the Queen came to the throne, about a third of the population
thought that the monarchy had been ordained by God. They don't think
like that now and they want it to be a utilitarian institution which has
to justify itself and to show the monarchy is relevant and practical.
It's why the princes have embarked on this course.

"It's not easy. There is no prescribed role for the heir to the throne,
let alone the son of the heir and his brother. The Prince of Wales has
become the first to find a proper role for himself and Prince William is
clearly following in his footsteps."

A number of decisions have already been taken by the young princes. They
will studiously avoid courting political controversy, unlike their
father who at 22 was questioning Harold Wilson's government over the
fate of Atlantic salmon years before declining fish stocks figured on
the political agenda.

In the ensuing four decades or so as the warm-up act to the Queen, the
Prince of Wales has been demonised as the adulterer in his disastrous
marriage, criticised for meddling in government affairs and attacked as a
hypocrite who does not practise what he preaches on climate change
because of his lavish lifestyle and penchant for flying the world in
chartered jets.

It is significant that Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the princes'
increasingly influential private secretary, is a trustee of the charity.
He is helping to plan a more structured career path for them.

When Prince William leaves the RAF he will go on secondment to Parliament, probably in the Speaker's Office, to learn about the drafting of Bills, the parliamentary timetable, and the traditions of the Palace of Westminster, where he will one day make the King's speech.

He will also work in one of the Inns of Court alongside barristers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and judges.

"He will be head of the judiciary one day so he wants to have an understanding of it," said one aide.

He will also spend time working with his charities.

There is the possibility of a diplomatic posting such as Governor-General of Australia or Canada for either of the princes.

Their father was linked to the Canberra post in the 1970s. There would be advantages to a posting in Australia where Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, is an avowed republican.

It is one reason why Prince
William is representing the monarch for the first time overseas next
year in New Zealand and Australia, the most far flung parts of her
realm.


But diplomatic baubles are not in the gift of Clarence House.

"They are a matter for the Australian and Canadian governments. It would not be appropriate for the Royal family to say Prince William or Prince Harry is up for the job,"
an adviser said.

"However, if they were to offer it would be given very serious consideration."

Over the years, Prince William has taken soundings from a number of
eminent figures, including Dr David Starkey, the historian, whose books
on Henry VIII and Elizabeth I have been turned into successful television series.

They both talk endlessly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who has been a valuable source of advice.

One friend said: "No matter how good the advisers in the inner-circle,
the Queen and Prince of Wales give the best possible wise counsel."

Both princes have become closer to their father since the death of their
mother and have observed his restlessness, which was on show as
recently as last November in a documentary to mark his 60th birthday.

When asked if he enjoyed his job, he replied: "Bits of it."

It was their father who encouraged them to stay in the protective
custody of the RAF and the Household Calvary, where they can lead a life
as close as possible to normal, albeit with protection officers by
their side for 24 hours a day.

Unlike other members of the Royal family, they do not have equerries to
lay out their clothes and they do their own ironing in the rented
cottage they share near RAF Shawbury in Shropshire.

The flunkeys who will wait upon them hand and foot (and who will be
officers they have worked alongside) will not arrive until they go back
to civilian life.

Already attitudes are changing; these days most people address them as Prince William and Prince Harry or Your Royal Highness.

While they don't object to being called just William or Harry, even some staff who previously used their Christian names now address them by their titles.

It is another sign that they are turning into central figures in the
House of Windsor, exactly as the Queen and Prince of Wales intended.

In 18 months, the new foundation will be giving out grants, ensuring
that Prince William and Prince Harry increasingly hog the limelight at
the expense of older members of the Royal family, including their
father.

It is ironic, then, that for years the princes, who were the most
reluctant members of the Royal family - not least because of the manner
of the death of their mother - are now seen as the best assets of the
House of Windsor.

The foundation is another sign that the princes have started thinking
about how they can live up to their billing as the future of the House
of Windsor.

London Telegraph

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Originally Posted by palomino
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Hey Vera Susa I might have a clue!

Today's poll

http://www.2ue.com.au/
Radio Station in Australia

2UE Webpoll GG Princes

Would you be happy to have
Prince Harry or Prince William
as our next Govenor General?

Yes 53%

No 46%

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Oh how funny!

So in this season when:

BALLARAT BASE Hospital
becomes part of
St John of God CATHOLIC Hospital

and

BALLARAT University
becomes part of
The CATHOLIC University

and we're told of

A CATHOLIC Chapel
IN THE ROYAL ANGLICAN Cathedral

and

The CATHOLIC Church
IS "TAKING BACK" ANGLICANS


we're WELCOMING
"HOLY ROYAL PRINCES" HOME...

is when I'm being RANTED AT
for reminding readers that
I've pointed at all this
all along
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Quote:
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Right, so we've had another round
of NWO AGENTS playing silly buggers
for want of counter arguments, tugging at
peoples National Pride and Fear and Loathing
of Government, in an attempt to replace Logical
Thinking with EMOTIONAL RESPONSES and so
keep them BLIND to The SECRET 'They' HIDE.

AUSTRALIA. GOD DESCRIBED IT,
From The Beginning.

GOD didn't lie about this Land.
GOD didn't lie about Anything.
GOD'S Promises STILL STAND.

And that IS THE BEST NEWS.

Oh sure, there is NOWHERE on Earth that isn't
suffering the results of corruptions that poison and kill,
but NO ONE can deny that it hasn't got worse
the further we've leaned away from Our Father's
Loving Advice and trusted man to 'save' us.
But again, only more evidence of what HE WARNED.

To help get your head around THE BIGNESS
of The TRUTH, simply use that 'GLOBAL VILLAGE'
idea and think of Australia as THE HOSPITAL
during a Time of War...suffering to, but
DEVOTEDLY PRESERVED.

But our Very FEW 'Capital' CITIES do need 'Thinning',


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Dumplings move in on Melbourne;
chaos expected

* John Lethlean and Necia Wilden
* From: The Australian
* November 24, 2009 12:00AM

DUMPLING fever grips the eastern seaboard.


While Sydney has its branch of international chain Din Tai Fung,
Melbourne's slightly sexier equivalent, Hutong Dumpling Bar,
is about to open a second branch in Prahran.

Hutong, opposite Melbourne's venerable Flower Drum,
has been swamped since opening earlier this year.
The Commercial Road branch due to open next week
will include duck ovens.
Expect chaos and great Shanghai food.

IT sometimes seems Australia's best food
is outside the big cities.

In Tasmania, Daniel Alps in the Tamar Valley
(see The Weekend Australian Magazine, December 5)
is probably the state's finest restaurant
and now The 2010 Adelaide Food Guide has awarded
restaurant of the year to a regional champion:
Fino, at Willunga.
"We love real food that tastes like real food,
fresh, exciting and expressing flavour first
rather than fashion and design,"
said the judges.

On the basis of a visit last week, we agree.
Melburnians may remember chef David Swain
at St Kilda's Veludo in the 1990s;
seems he has made the right decision
returning to regional South Australia.

cont:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225802270327

This is an odd little report in that
putting KEY words and PHRASES together
that PROMOTE THIS LAND of PLENTY,
while WARNING of "SHANGHAI" CHAOS,
ARE "THE STORY"...further told in this mornings News
here...Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Biggrin

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our Regional Cities and COUNTRY Towns need
Infrastructure Development and RE-POPULATING
and our OVER 40% WILDERNESS DOES NEED
WELL MANAGED DEVELOPMENT.

But we do NOT want "FOREIGN COUNTRIES"
sprouting in those currently too empty lands,
so, we NEED to ESTABLISH
AUSTRALIAN populations in those areas...

and one way is to simply TEMPT people OUT
of their lounge rooms and OUT to SEE and
FALL IN LOVE with All of This Most Glorious Land...Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Biggrin Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Smile



Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares
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Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares


Flights snapped up as
Tiger Airways offers $2 fares


By Kate Schneider
news.com.au
November 24, 2009 07:24am

Tiger Airways
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Tiger Airways is offering $2 fares
for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne,
Adelaide or the Gold Coast / Supplied


TIGER Airways is offering $2 airfares today
to celebrate the airline's second birthday in Australia.

There are currently 2000 tickets available for travel
on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between
May 5 and September 10 next year.

The fares apply for one-way travel from
Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast.

It includes taxes and charges but is subject to
a $6 fee per sector if booked with a credit card.

It includes hand luggage of up to seven kilograms only.

All bookings are non-refundable and non-transferable.

The sale ends tonight or until sold out.
Sexy when wet for Top End tourism


By Nigel Adlam

Northern Territory News

November 24, 2009 08:09am


TOURISTS are learning that
the wet season is sexy,
a leading Territory tourism figure said.


Top End Tourism president Sylvia Wolf said
visitors loved watching the pavements steam after rain.

”It's very sensual,” she said.
“Our wet season song should be Singing in the Rain.

Ms Wolf said
the big drop-off in tourist numbers at the end of the Dry
had not been anywhere near as sharp as usual this year.

She said this was because of years of hard work
educating people about the glories of the monsoon.
Ms Wolf said
Darwin had much to offer during the wet season –
lushness, fantastic storms and reasonably priced accommodation.


”Now that we've got more accommodation,
the rates are more reasonable.

”There's no ripping off the poor old tourists with inflated prices.”


Ms Wolf said the spectacular success of the
$100 million Darwin Convention Centre
had helped change the tourism season.


The season used to start in April and end abruptly in September.

The Territory Government and tourism industry
began promoting the “shoulder” months –
April-May and September-October –
a few years ago.

And now they are pushing the joys of the Wet.


”A lot of people think
you can't get around during the wet season,
but that's not true,
Ms Wolf said.

”We're educating people and many are not so afraid
to come here during the Wet.”

About 50 southern rural travel agents
visited Darwin earlier last month and
were pleasantly surprised at the weather
and sophistication of the city.


Bookings are already coming through
from that initial familiarisation tour.

Last edited by merlincove; 26-11-2009 at 02:08 PM.
Reason:
Questioning members' identities

(oh and, 'nice' of 'them' to admit 'they' edit my posts,
FOR ASKING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
Rolling Eyes, so while it is worth
reading on, please know 'they' deliberately make my posts,
harder to make clear sense of, than I originally try to write them.)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...

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Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine.
Picture: AP
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Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin.
So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...


...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying
his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...


tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.
(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)


And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.


Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.


Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.


It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.

Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT DEVIL%20LOGO.DESKTOP
The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?

Just some of 'the names', that SPAM The SAMe OFF TOPIC/NO TOPIC SHIT Arthurprins2
Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.


Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.


He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.


the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.

but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.


So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),

From The Beginning.


And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE"
in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.


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http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS,
to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

  • Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward

  • From:News Limited newspapers

  • July 28, 2011

  • 17 comments
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Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun

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Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.

It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies"
surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .

"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

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"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


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and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:

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Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander
and Princess Maxima.


Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.


"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our attractions.


"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name
and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed
on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
©️ 2006
AAP

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but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
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Israel=The Promised Land!

Israel is the Promised Land, NOT Australia.

http://www.vbm-torah.org/

http://www.vbm-torah.org/jewphi.htm



IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg

50b: Sleeping Beauty, part 2


In Bereshit we read of the significant encounter between Avraham and Malkitzedek, king of Shalem. According to the biblical commentator Moshe David Cassuto, the Torah intends to convey "that Jerusalem was a holy city. [This was] an eternal holiness, extending since time immemorial, and even when it was populated by idol worshippers, who were accustomed to worshipping many gods, its inhabitants could not but worship their highest God," who is essentially identical to the one God of Scriptural monotheism.

Rashi gleans something else from this encounter. Our rights to the land are not the result of a divine promise accompanied by military conquest. Our Sages emphasized our "historical rights" to the land. Rashi describes how the children of Shem lived in the Land according to the original division among the sons of Noach, and how "the Canaanites were conquering the land of Israel from the children of Shem." On the background of this unjust conquest, which destroyed the original harmony between the peoples of the world, Avraham, a descendent of Shem, appears upon the stage of history. He meets with one of the last Shemite kings of Jerusalem, before they were destroyed by the Jebusites. This was Malkitzedek king of Shalem (Bereshit 14:18-20): "And Malkitzedek king of Shalem brought out bread and wine, and he was a priest of the highest God. And he blessed him and said, blessed is Avraham of the highest God, ruler of heaven and earth." In this encounter, the last remaining Shemite monotheistic priest meets Avraham and prophesies, "[God] will someday return [Jerusalem] to your children, who are the descendants of Shem" (Rashi, on Bereshit 12:6).

The Rambam teaches an additional unique aspect of Jerusalem. In his "Guide For The Perplexed" [3,45] he suggests that Jerusalem is referred to in the Bible as "the place which He will choose," without calling it explicitly by name, for political reasons. The name of the place was hidden so that "the nations would not hold onto it and fight a powerful war over it, as they would if they knew that this place on earth was the source of the Torah." Sadly, this attempt did not help, and the struggles over Jerusalem continue to this day. Political struggles have a mechanism of their own. In Jerusalem, a religious struggle exists as well.

The Jewish people return to their land with a demand for justice that is beyond law. No one disputes the spiritual ownership of other religions. This is one of the great tests of humanity. Will they recognize the rights of the father who has returned to life and to youth, to live in his own land?

Jerusalem was conquered by Christians and by Muslims. However, Jerusalem is holy to the Jews not because of an event that occurred in it, nor because of a building in it, but because of very essence. The Temple could burn down, foreign temples could be built in its place, and yet the connection with the land remains, as though nothing has changed. Thus, the Jewish people mourned over Jerusalem, and thus Rihal expressed the longing of Jerusalem for its people:

"Zion, will you not inquire after your prisoners who inquire after you, and are the remnant of your flock...
I cry endless tears to bewail your suffering, and when I dream of the return of your exiles, I am a violin for your songs."

Whoever has read Mark Twain's description of the parched land, so barren that he felt this could not possibly be the land of which the Bible speaks, understands what the renewal and rebirth of the land means.

The Ramban saw the double tragedy as the symbol of the deepest expression of the love between the people and the land. The nation could not rest peacefully in any other place in the world, and the land would not bear fruit for any foreign conqueror. It patiently awaited the return of its people.


IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg


51a: The Land of Israel

The Paradox



We will now reopen our discussion of the uniqueness of the Land of Israel, the great paradox we have been living since the birth of Judaism in the first pages of the Scriptures. Before God there are no political or geographical boundaries, there are no boundaries of nations or of countries. And yet, the great message of this universalism is expressed in two particularisms, two uniquenesses: the uniqueness of the People and the uniqueness of the Land. The paradox teaches us that uniqueness is the path to universalism. The uniqueness of the Jewish people is part of a plan that will lead us and the nations of the world to the end of days, a plan for the redemption of the entire world. In this plan, the descendants of the Forefathers hold a unique place and position.

This paradox was a focal point of constant debate with many thinkers, particularly those who have stemmed from Judaism and have accepted some of the general principles of our Torah. The Scriptures proclaimed that Avraham would become the father of many nations. And indeed, many nations have accepted the Torah of the Forefathers. However, many of them wished to accept these principles while erasing the name of the Jews. Sometimes this was done by actual killing of Jews, and generally it was done by stealing their identity, by claiming that they themselves are the true Jewish people.


Models
The paradox of uniqueness demands an explanation from within as well. Rihal uses biological and climatic models to explain his central thesis. In my opinion, the reader has a certain amount of freedom here. He can accept these explanations as they are, or he can suggest corrections that lift these explanations to a higher plane. Rihal attempts to analyze a difficult and central issue, but he lacks the tools for the job. He saw the biological and climatic theories as models to explain his reality. Thus, for example, Rihal used the fact that certain traits are present in the grandfather, disappear in the father and reappear in the third generation.

In this way, Rihal wished to convey the surprising idea that traits can reappear despite an apparent break in continuity and education: that there can be resurrection after surcease. What Rihal describes is a return to something that does not come from without but that already exists within. The biological model is wonderful, because it demonstrates that potential can exist, for example in genetic makeup, and not be expressed outwardly. The difference in genetics between a genotype and a phenotype is the difference between uniqueness and choseness. There are traits that remain hidden because of the environment in which the organism develops; however the genotype, the uniqueness, the inner potential, continues to exist. This description is true of the nation as well. This is the essence of the principle of eternal uniqueness in the philosophies of Rihal, the Maharal and Rav Kook.

Territory

This topic brings us to the place of territory in Jewish thought. We are better equipped, thank God, to discuss this question than previous generations, who read Rihal's philosophy regarding the land of Israel yet were severed from it. Here in the land of Israel we face the full significance of Rihal's writings on the subject, as well as the difficult dilemmas that the topic raises.

One can view the land of Israel as the place where the Jewish state resides. This is an instrumental view, in which territory becomes a vehicle. Like a house, a country is a place in which we live, and it constitutes, in the largest sense of the word, a vehicle, a tool necessary for our survival. This is a rational approach, and stands as one the principles of Zionism. This principle implies that Jewish existence in the Diaspora was abnormal and unhealthy, and that the nation must be healed and rehabilitated through Zionism. This can be compared to a cripple who has lost the use of his hands and legs, and who hopes for the return of their powers. The hands and legs represent the two central characteristics of political existence in an independent state. The hands represent the nation's ability to defend itself militarily, while the legs symbolize the connection to the territory. If we were to go in this direction we would reach the territorial basis necessary for the justification of the Zionist idea, and seemingly this would be enough. However, here we must learn the great lesson of the Kuzari.

Let us jump to the end of the book. At the end of the book, the Chaver bids farewell to the king and prepares to journey to the land of Israel. "After these events the Chaver decided to leave the land of the Khazars and journey to Jerusalem." The king is astonished:
"And the departure of the Chaver was difficult for the Kuzari and he spoke to him of it, saying, 'what is there to find in the land of Israel today, since the Holy Presence has left it? And since the closeness of God can be achieved in any location by a pure heart and a strong desire; and why should you place yourself at the peril of the deserts and the seas and the hatred of the various peoples?'" (5:22)

This question of the Kuzari king must amaze us. Since the very first discourse, Rihal has emphasized the significance of the Land of Israel. His journey to the Land of Israel is the necessary and logical result of all he has been saying and writing. If so, why is the Kuzari king surprised? The answer lies in the recognition of a paradox, which is expressed at the end of the book, and sheds a different light upon the entire book. The Chaver had built a Jewish state in the land of the Khazars! Not only that, but his place in that state is comparable to the role of the philosopher, who guides the king in his leadership of the ideal kingdom. We can understand the significance of this ideal state when we read the letter that Hasdai Ibn Shaprut wrote to the Kuzari king.

He writes:
"If there is a place where there is a beacon and a kingdom for the exiles of Israel and they are not tyrannized or controlled, and if I knew that this was true, I would despise my own honor and depart from my greatness and desert my family and would speedily go up mountains, over land or sea, until I would reach the place where my lord the king rules to see his greatness and his glory and the residence of his subjects and the superiority of his servants and the repose of the exiles of Israel. And upon seeing his greatness and glory, my eyes would alight and my innards rejoice and my lips would praise the One who had not withheld His bounty from my forlorn nation."

Hasdai Ibn Shaprut, the Jewish minister of the highest personal and political status in the Caliphate in Cordova, claims that he would abandon all of his honor and become a simple subject in the Jewish state in which the Jews have independence. This state has religious significance as well:
"For how can I bleed for the destruction of our glorious House and for the few saved from the sword who went through fire and water, who are but a small remainder and have lost our honor and dwell in exile, and God does not assist us against those who say to us all the day, 'every nation has a kingdom and you have no remembrance in the land.'"

And a Jewish state exists, the kingdom of the Khazars. However, Rihal instructs us through the paradox of his own life and choices. The Chaver abandons a Jewish state, nobility, independence and everything that goes along with it, in order to travel to a place that is under foreign rule. This place is the Land of Israel. Here we learn the great lesson. Our attitude towards the Land of Israel is not one of territory, in which, by chance, a Jewish state exists. We relate to it as our destiny, and view the encounter with it as part of our essence as Jews. Jewish sovereignty and independence are significant, but so is our relationship to the Land of Israel. At the end of the book we will learn how Rihal envisioned the ultimate return to the Land of Israel and the redemption. Herein lies the mystery and the paradox. The return to the Land of Israel is not a tool or a means. What we have here is here a relationship of encounter, a cosmic meeting of those intended for each other from the beginning of time. Just as it is written that every person's marriage partner is announced in Heaven forty days before his birth, so too it is announced that a particular field in the Land is intended for a particular person. Our Sages wished to teach us the romantic idea that the connection between a couple exists before they meet for the first time, and that their meeting is not a chance occurrence. So too the relationship between the People and the Land is more than a chance occurrence. The relationship was written in the books of destiny.


IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg

51b: The Land Of Israel, Part 2


What mysterious force lies behind the relationship of the People and the Land? What makes a particular union successful and unique? Here we enter into theories and models. Rihal attempts to describe it through a unique approach to the climate of the Land of Israel. We find a similar approach in the writings of Rambam. However, he limits the explanation, when he claims that this climate is not unique to the Land but characterizes the entire region. This is actually stated explicitly by Rihal:

"And Ever was the designated progeny of Shem...since his inheritance was the lands of comfortable climates, at the center of which is placed the coveted land, the land of Canaan, the land of prophecy." (1:95)

Thus, we find that the climatic condition is necessary but not sufficient. The Land of Israel is unique in that its climate integrates heat and cold. In other words, it unites the characteristics of those places lacking the conditions for creating a great civilization and a sophisticated culture. And indeed, both the inception and the development of civilization took place in the temperate climates.

Beyond the geographical conditions there is a mystical reality, a spiritual uniqueness of the Land, which makes it a place where prophecy can become a reality. The Land of Israel is the destined location of the ultimate encounter between the Jewish nation and God, the place destined for prophecy and redemption.

This approach to the Land of Israel perhaps can only be understood in categories of love. A person can consider a prospective mate according to the size of the dowry or other monetary interests, as a means to advance one's career or one's social status, etc. These are purely rational reasons. However, we all know that this is not enough, and justifiably so. Beyond these things we expect something more, something irrational and emotional, something we can only describe as love. The word love describes the relationship between the People and the Land. The book of Bereshit describes how the Great Matchmaker, the Creator himself, took Avraham, the father of the Jewish nation, and brought him to the Land of Israel. There he would found his nation, and there the great encounter between the Jewish people and God will ultimately take place. The encounter between the People and the Land is also a condition of redemption.

Thank God, for us no contradiction exists between the instrumental approach and what we might term the romantic approach. We must realize how fortunate we are, to live in the age where, after so much trial and suffering, these approaches finally merge. The distinction between the two approaches to the People and the Land was illustrated through a historical dilemma: Uganda or Palestine? The instrumental approach demanded searching for territory somewhere. This was called the territorial position. It was opposed by the position that spoke about the Land of Israel. Both approaches are important, and the Kuzari state and the other Jewish states that arose in the Diaspora were not a crime, but neither did they bring salvation. There were many Jews who did not think it a crime to live in the Diaspora but who considered the creation of a Jewish state in the Diaspora a betrayal of their allegiance to the Land of Israel.

These issues are important because of their current implications. We are faced with dilemmas that center around the ideals of the redemption of the People and of the Land. We will not enter into politics here. Politics means solving these dilemmas in a particular way. However, understanding the dilemmas is beyond politics. We must always be aware of the two-sidedness of our relationship to the Land. On the one hand, the instrumental relationship to a home, and on the other hand, the relationship to something that cannot be replaced. This relationship is represented in the Scriptures and in later literature by the classic image of the relationship to a mother. The Land is perceived as a mother to some individuals, and as a wife to the nation. We express this relationship through loyalty, love and respect.

The Land of Israel

As we have seen, the content of Jewish thought focuses around three central points: Creation, Revelation and Redemption. History is a process with many twists and turns; however, it ultimately leads us from Creation to Redemption through Revelation.

The Land of Israel symbolizes creation. The Land of Israel is also the land of prophecy.
The sacrifice of Yitzchak connects to the second point: Revelation. Just as Avraham was called to the Land of Israel from a foreign country, "Go ... to the land that I will show you" (Bereshit 12:1), so too he is called forth after entering the Land of Israel: "Go ... to one of the mountains that I will show you" (ibid. 22:2).

Here, too, Avraham follows the call to a place that he does not know, and only when he reaches it does God inform him that this is the place that God had destined for the great drama of the sacrifice of Isaac. Avraham's going reveals the holiness within the holiness. Avraham learned to recognize the holiness of the Land of Israel when he reached it. The holiness of Jerusalem had to be revealed much later, at the final trial.

The mount of the sacrifice, say the Scriptures, is the "mountain where God appeared," the place of revelation, the encounter with God. On this mountain the Temple will be built, the Temple in which man will encounter the Divine Presence. The Scriptures themselves are aware of the paradox in this claim. In king Shlomo's prayer in the Book of Melakhim we read,
"For can it be that God resides on the earth, behold the heavens and the highest firmaments cannot contain You, how can this House I have built [contain You]?" (Melakhim I, 8:27)

However, divine transcendence left room also for the immanence that is connected to "this place...and You will hearken from the heavens" (ibid. 8:29-32).

Revelation is expressed in two ways: in the personal encounter, and in the collective revelation of the Torah. Next to the Temple sat the Great Court, whose role was to teach Torah to the entire people of Israel.

The third point that is encompassed in Jerusalem is connected to the future: the Redemption. This idea means the triumph of good in the various circles of human activity: the national, the human-universal and the cosmic.

The national redemption is the return of the Jewish people to their Land. When the Jew prays for redemption, he prays to the God who "will rebuild Jerusalem," and adds, "may our eyes witness Your merciful return to Jerusalem. Blessed are You God, who will return His Presence to Zion." The redemption is the renewed meeting of the three: the People, the Land and the Divine Presence, the divine immanence.

Jerusalem is also the axle upon which the human-universal redemption turns as well. The mountain that was the center of spiritual heights for the Jewish people will become a center of inspiration and education for the entire world.


"And in the end of days the mount of the house of God will be placed above all mountains and rise above all hills and all the nations will swarm towards it. And many nations will go saying, come let us go up to the mountain of God, to the House of the God of Ya'akov, and He will teach us of His ways and we will follow in His paths, for Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of God from Jerusalem." (Yishayahu 2:2-3)

The particularism of the choosing of a People and a Land are thus merged with absolute universalism. The People and the Land preserved the Torah, so that it would spread among all the nations, and whose central expression is universal peace: "And they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks, nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they study war any more" (ibid. 2:4).

In Jewish tradition, Jerusalem is also the center of the cosmic redemption. Yishayahu's vision, "and the wolf shall dwell with the lamb" (Yishayahu 11:6) is obviously an allegory for the ideal international relations that will reign in the messianic era. However, it is also a hint at a religious utopia, in which even the natural reality will change.

Various verses in Yechezkel hint at future changes in Jerusalem. A spring will gush from it, and from it powerful rivers will stream forth, which will even heal the Dead Sea. Clearly, these are references to the ancient Garden of Eden.

And indeed certain commentators have understood it in this way. According to their interpretation, the Garden that God planted in Eden underwent a catastrophic change as a result of the sin; however, with the advent of the redemption it will revert to its original state. The Garden of Eden is the Land of Israel, and its center is Jerusalem.

If this motif exists in the Scriptural tradition, then the symbolism of the Holy Temple can be understood in its light as well. At its center, as in the Garden of Eden, the Keruvim protected the Tree of Life, which is none other than the Torah - the word of God.


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nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!


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no, 'gods word', the Holy Bible DOES NOT say australia is Zion, it is explicitly clear that Israel/Jerusalem is the Geographical Zion......I've asked you numerous times to define the Hebrew word: Tsiyon/Zion, you have refused...........WHY?

You are just another Antisemitic/Anti Israel/Anti Torah....'gods word' psycho............
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https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1241-mizraim-means-egypt-zion-is-israel-not-australia

Mizraim means Egypt. Zion is Israel, NOT Australia

Europe is a LARGER Continent then Australia. As a matter of FACT; Australia is the SMALLEST/RUNT Continent. And as large it may be, the size of your EGO makes it uncomfortably confining. But hey, that's only one of your many lies and deceptions. Let's talk about Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt. You say it isn't. Where is your credentialed support for your ignorant nonsense?

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mizraim.html

Meaning and etymology of the name Mizraim
Mizraim

Mizraim is a son of Ham, son of Noah (Genesis 12:10). This name is also the common name for Egypt (which is also known as 'the land of Ham,', for instance in Psalm 105:23).

Egypt was known by the names Musuru, Musru, Misir or Masri in other languages, and Mizraim is probably simply a phonetic transliteration into Hebrew of any of them. The word looks identical to what a dual form of would look like (see below). This duality possibly helped to denote Upper and Lower Egypt. The word for Egyptian is .

The similar (masor), a poetic nickname for Egypt that is used on three different occasions (Isaiah 19:6, 2 Kings 19:24 = Isaiah 37:25, Micah 7:12), may shed some understanding on how a Hebrew audience might have interpreted the name Mizraim.

The noun (masor) means siege, entrenchment, and it derives from the verb (sur), bind, besiege. Another derivation of this same verb is the noun , stronghold. HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that a stronghold or walled city may be an instrument of protection during the first stages of a war, but will turn into a lethal trap if a siege last long. A beautiful figurative use of this word occurs in Psalm 31:21, where the author compares himself under siege by his troubles.

The verb from which the noun derives, is part of a group of five different roots. These roots all have different linguistic sources but were perhaps readily incorporated into the Hebrew language due to similar or related meanings, more or less:
(swr) is the assumed root of the words (sawwar), neck and (sawwaron), necklace. The neck is simply a part of the body, but figuratively it is used as seat of strength (Job 39:19) and subsequently as target of defeat (by the placing of the victor's foot on the neck of the conquered - Joshua 10:24). The similarity between a necklace and a besieging army is obvious.
The verb (sur) means to bind or besiege; referred to above.
The verb (sur) means show hostility to, be an adversary. According to BDB Theological Dictionary and HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is probably a by-form of (sarar), see below.
The verb (sur) means to form or fashion. According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, this verb is possibly a by-form of (yasar), form or fashion.
The noun (sur) does not occur in the Bible, but is probably related to words in cognate languages that mean rock or hill. A derivative that does occur in the Bible is (sur), the common Biblical word for rock. BDB Theological Dictionary suggests relations with (sara), see below.

The words and are linguistically closely related. Their respective meanings also shows much kinship:
The verb (sarar) means to bind, be narrow/ confined, be in distress. Derivatives are: (sar), narrow, tight; (sar), distress; (sara), straights, distress; (sarar), suffer distress; (seror), bundle; (mesar), straights, distress. The latter word written in a dual form would yield the name , Mizraim. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names assumed that this is what Mizraim would have meant to a Hebrew audience and reads Double Distress.
The verb (sarar) means show hostility towards. Derivation (sar) means adversary.
The assumed root (srr) is unused in the Bible but in Arabic it means be sharp. Its common derivative is (sar), pebble, flint.

The name Mizraim means Double Distress or Double Stronghold.



Bible Dictionary

Mizraim definition


the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham (Gen. 10:6, 13; 1 Chr. 1:8, 11). It was the name generally given by the Hebrews to the land of Egypt (q.v.), and may denote the two Egypts, the Upper and the Lower. The modern Arabic name for Egypt is Muzr.

Mizraim From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim
Mizraim (Hebrew: מִצְרַיִם / מִצְרָיִם, Modern Mitzráyim Tiberian Miṣrāyim / Miṣráyim ; cf. Arabic مصر, Miṣr) is the Hebrew name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.

Ugaritic inscriptions refer to Egypt as Msrm, in the Amarna tablets it is called Misri, and Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt Musur and Musri. The Arabic word for Egypt is Misr (pronounced Masr in Egyptian colloquial Arabic), and Egypt's official name is Gumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah (the Arab Republic of Egypt).

According to Genesis 10, Mizraim (a son of Ham) was the younger brother of Cush and elder brother of Phut and Canaan, whose families together made up the Hamite branch of Noah's descendants. Mizraim's sons were Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, Casluhim (out of whom came Philistim), and Caphtorim.[1]

According to Eusebius' Chronicon, Manetho had suggested that the great age of antiquity in which the later Egyptians boasted had actually preceded the flood, and that they were really descended from Mizraim, who settled there anew. A similar story is related by medieval Islamic historians such as Sibt ibn al-Jawzi, the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, and the Persians al-Tabari and Muhammad Khwandamir, stating that the pyramids, etc. had been built by the wicked races before the deluge, but that Noah's descendant Mizraim (Masar or Mesr) was entrusted with reoccupying the region afterward. The Islamic accounts also make Masar the son of a Bansar or Beisar and grandson of Ham, rather than a direct son of Ham, and add that he lived to the age of 700. Some scholars think it likely that Mizraim is a dual form of the word Misr meaning "land", and was translated literally into Ancient Egyptian as Ta-Wy (the Two Lands) by early pharaohs at Thebes, who later founded the Middle Kingdom.

But according to George Syncellus, the Book of Sothis, supposedly by Manetho, had identified Mizraim with the legendary first pharaoh Menes, said to have unified the Old Kingdom and built Memphis. Misraim also seems to correspond to Misor, said in Phoenician mythology to have been father of Taautus who was given Egypt, and later scholars noticed that this also recalls Menes, whose son or successor was said to be Athothis.

In Judaism, Mitzrayim has been connected with the word meitzar (מיצר), meaning "sea strait", possibly alluding to narrow gulfs from both sides of Sinai peninsula. It also can mean "boundaries, limits, restrictions" or "narrow place".[citation needed]

However, author David Rohl has suggested a different interpretation: "Amongst the followers of Meskiagkasher [Cush] was his younger 'brother' -- in his own right a strong and charismatic leader of men. He is the head of the falcon tribe -- the descendants of Horus the 'Far Distant'. The Bible calls this new Horus-king 'Mizraim' but this name is, in reality, no more than an epithet. It means 'follower of Asr' or 'Asar' (Arabic m-asr with the Egyptian preposition m 'from'). Mizraim is merely m-Izra with the majestic plural ending 'im'. Likewise, that other great Semitic-speaking people -- the Assyrians -- called the country of the pharaohs 'Musri' (m-Usri)." [2]

Genesis 10 - The Table of Nations
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0110.htm
The tenth chapter of Genesis . . . stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks, where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework . . . The Table of Nations remains an astonishing accurate document. (William F. Albright, cited in Boice)

A. The descendants of Japheth.

1. (1) The three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.

2. (2) The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.

The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.

a. The sons of Japheth: He was the father of the Indo-European peoples, those stretching from India to the shores of Western Europe. They are each linked by linguistic similarities that often seem invisible to the layman but are much more obvious to the linguist.

b. Gomer: From this son of Japheth came the Germanic peoples, from whom came most of the original peoples of Western Europe. These include the original French, Spanish, and Celtic settlers.

c. Magog . . . Tubal, Meshech: These settled in the far north of Europe and became the Russian peoples.

d. Madai: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Medes and they populated what are now Iran and Iraq. The peoples of India also came from this branch of Japheth’s family.

e. Javan: From this son of Japheth came the ancient Greeks, whose sea-faring ways are described in Genesis 10:5.

3. (3) The sons of Gomer.

The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.

a. Ashkenaz: From this son of Gomer came the peoples who settled north of Judea into what we call the Fertile Crescent.

b. Togarmah: From this son of Gomer came the Armenians.

4. (4-5) The sons of Javan (the ancient Greeks).

The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.

a. The sons of Javan were: Geographic names that spring from these names in this chapter abound. Linguists have no trouble seeing the connection between Kittim and Cyprus, Rodanim and Rhodes, Gomer and Germany, Meschech and Moscow, Tubal and Tobolsk.

B. The descendants of Ham.

1. (6) The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.

The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.

a. Ham: The descendants of Ham are the peoples who populated Africa and the Far East.

b. Cush: Apparently, this family divided into two branches early. Some founded Babylon (notably, Nimrod) and others founded Ethiopia.

c. Mizraim: This is another way the Bible refers to Egypt. Put refers to Libya, the region of North Africa west of Egypt. Canaan refers to the peoples who originally settled the land we today think of as Israel and its surrounding regions.
2. (7-12) The sons of Cush.

The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).



a. Cush begot Nimrod: One son of Cush worthy of note is Nimrod. He was a mighty one on the earth, but not in a good way. He ruled over Babel, which was the first organized rebellion of humans against God. The name Nimrod itself means, “let us rebel.”



b. Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord: The context shows that this is not a compliment of Nimrod. The idea is that Nimrod was an offense before the face of God.



i. “This is not talking about Nimrod’s ability to hunt wild game. He was not a hunter of animals. He was a hunter of men - a warrior. It was through his ability to fight and kill and rule ruthlessly that his kingdom of the Euphrates valley city states was consolidated.” (Boice)



ii. A Jerusalem Targum says: “He was powerful in hunting and in wickedness before the Lord, for he was a hunter of the sons of men, and he said to them, ‘Depart from the judgment of the Lord, and adhere to the judgment of Nimrod!’ Therefore it is said: ‘As Nimrod the strong one, strong in hunting, and in wickedness before the Lord.’ ”



iii. Ginzberg quotes from a Jewish legend: “The great success that attended all of Nimrod’s undertakings produced a sinister effect. Men no longer trusted in God, but rather in their own prowess and ability, an attitude to which Nimrod tried to convert the whole world.”

iv. “Hence it is likely that Nimrod, having acquired power, used it in tyranny and oppression; and by rapine and violence founded the domination which was the first distinguished by the name of a kingdom on the face of the earth. How many kingdoms have been founded in the same way, in various ages and nations from that time to the present! From the Nimrods of the earth, God deliver the world!” (Clarke)

3. (13-14) The sons of Mizraim.

Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).

4. (15-19) The sons of Canaan.

Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.

a. Canaan begot Sidon: The family of Sidon, the son of Canaan, went north and is related to the Hittites and Lebanese.

b. And the Sinite: Many people believe the Oriental peoples descended from the Sinites.

5. (20) The spread of the descendants of Ham.

These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations.

C. The descendants of Shem.

1. (21-22) The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.

And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.

a. Children were born also to Shem: From Shem comes Elam, who was an ancestor to the Persian peoples; Asshur, who was the father of the Assyrians; Lud was father to the Lydians who lived for a time in Asia Minor; and Aram was father to the Arameans, who we also know as the Syrians. Arphaxad was the ancestor to Abram and the Hebrews.

2. (23) The sons of Aram.

The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.

a. Uz: Later, a region in Arabia was named after this son of Aram.

Job came from the land of Uz (Job 1:1).

3. (24-30) The sons and descendants of Arphaxad.

Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.

a. All these were the sons of Joktan: The names under the son of Joktan (son of Eber, son of Salah, son of Arphaxad) are all associated with various Arabic peoples.

b. And Jobab: The one named Jobab may be the one we know as Job in the Old Testament.

4. (31) The spread of the descendants of Shem.

These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
5. (32) Summary statement: the nations after the flood.

These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.

a. “Hence one must consider this chapter of Genesis a mirror in which to discern that we human beings are, namely, creatures so marred by sin that we have no knowledge of our own origin, not even of God Himself, our Creator, unless the Word of God reveals these sparks of divine light to us from afar . . . This knowledge the Holy Scriptures reveal to us. Those who are without them live in error, uncertainty, and boundless ungodliness; for they have no knowledge about who they are and whence they came.” (Luther, cited in Boice)



MIZRAIM = EGYPT



You also deceive about the Replacement/Superssessionism Theology......This is Strike 3 and a few more to go.

http://www.biblestudyproject.org/israel3.1-replacement-theology-messianic.htm

The Truth

We believe Israel is God's special people, distinct from the body of Messiah, chosen by Him to be a holy nation and a Kingdom of priests. The election of Israel is irrevocable. . . . We believe the Abrahamic Covenant is an irrevocable, unconditional covenant God made with Jewish people. This covenant provides title to the land of Israel for the Jewish people and promises a descendant (the Messiah) who would come to redeem Israel and bless the entire world. The spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant overflow to all the nations. God will ultimately fulfill every aspect of the covenant in the Messianic Kingdom, both physical and spiritual. . . .

Your LIE!!!!!!!

A. SUPERSESSIONISM OR REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

The meaning of this doctrine is that the church superseded or replaced Israel as God's covenant people. The three claims presented under this heading are:
1. God has rejected Israel,
2. the church has replaced Israel as God's covenant people, and
3. the church is therefore spiritual Israel.

If God has rejected Israel, then that clears the way for a replacement people; and if that people is the church, then the church may be considered spiritual Israel. It is also conceivable that some who believe that Israel is still God's covenant people would consider the church spiritual Israel because it is composed of people whose spirits have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. We will now hold the light of Scripture to these claims and possibilities.


Paul follows his emphatic response with, for I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. . . . What is his point? If God had rejected Israel as His covenant people, then every Israelite would be disqualified from the possibility of being saved; yet he is an Israelite who is saved, and that proves that God has not rejected His people.

To sum up, we have noticed two proofs that God has not rejected Israel as His covenant people:
1. By the very meaning of May it never be! in the way that Paul used it in different contexts.
2. By the fact that Paul was a saved Israelite.


Nevertheless, we'll address several passages that need clarification.

b. Romans 11:1-5

1. I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3. "Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4. But what is the divine response to him? "I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5. In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.


Replacement Theology

Its Origins, Teachings and Errors

By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries

(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)
http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm

These are serious errors/deformations in your Theology and Worldview. What do you have to say for yourself. You gibber on and on about being persecuted yet you, yourself; are the persecuter. You lie about the Jews and their Sacred scriptures and you attempt to steal their identity and destiny, without being able to read/write Hebrew. Your ignorance and hubris is appalling Capiche?
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