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ZOMBIE Govt.: TICK, TICK, TICK...HOW can ANY AUSTRALIAN, still Follow "tintin"/Icke
true lilly Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:44 am
Oh there is so much in this, today's article, by Andrew Bolt,
that was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper?
There is no viable replacement
for Julia Gillard in the Labor Party
Andrew Bolt
From: Herald Sun
September 07, 2011 12:00AM
Labor is stuck with a Prime Minister
who won't give up and no viable replacement.
Herald Sun
JULIA Gillard is now the zombie Prime Minister - the walking dead.
Her government dropped yesterday to a record low in Newspoll,
at just 41 per cent of the preferred vote to the Coalition's 59.
Just a quarter of voters like the job she's doing, and from that there is no coming back.
Three things need to be sorted out by Labor before Gillard is replaced.
First, she needs to be persuaded to resign, much as Alexander Downer
selflessly did to end his own hopeless year as Liberal leader.
Labor cannot afford the shame of another knifing,
and Gillard's successor cannot afford the stain.
That's why some of the people most likely to take over - notably Assistant
Treasurer Bill Shorten and Defence Minister Stephen Smith - insist they
back Gillard completely.
Both want clean hands, especially Shorten,
who still hasn't washed off all Kevin Rudd's blood.
The trouble for Labor is that Gillard doesn't seem about to budge.
Related Coverage
"I'm the best person to do this job."
So Labor is paralysed. For now.
Second, Labor needs to decide if it just wants a better salesman,
or a better product, too.
Does it dump Gillard alone, or the carbon dioxide tax with her?
If Labor wants to keep the tax, then it will probably let Gillard
get it through Parliament, so she wears any blame.
That gives her time.
But if Labor wants to dump it, it may have to move against Gillard by next
week, when she is due to introduce the tax Bill to Parliament.
Unless, of course, her successor wants to argue in favour of her tax in
Parliament next week, only to have to repeal a law for it later.
Then there's the last question. Who?
Who to choose to lead Labor to its inevitable defeat?
This is the most agonising decision of all. If the answer were clear, the
Prime Minister would be gone already, but all the contenders are flawed
and bring big risks.
Take even the most obvious of them.
Simon Crean, now Regional Australia Minister, is the person you'd choose if
you believed what Labor most needed now was calm, boring, stable
leadership, just to end the chaos and show Labor is not completely
incompetent.
Crean, a former ACTU president, has gravitas and is vastly experienced,
having been a good minister in the Hawke and Keating governments and
then leader of the Opposition, where he was brought down more by Labor
infighting than any big mistakes.
Yes, I know you are yawning already, but that's the idea.
This Government needs to get serious. Get boring.
It can't afford any more wild ideas like cash for clunkers, or any more
half-baked promises, like an East Timor detention centre that even East
Timor doesn't want.
Crean also has the clout to mend Labor's relationship with the unions,
dangerously frayed by Gillard, and has the links to reassure business,
which is now so spooked and giving Labor a shellacking.
What's more, he could dump the carbon-dioxide tax without much embarrassment,
and talk with credibility about saving manufacturing jobs instead, like a good union man.
But his weakness is that he wasn't a vote magnet as Opposition leader and is not
one now. He is no charmer, and no orator. He wouldn't give Labor an instant boost
in the polls.
He'd instead need patience from a panicking party so he could spend
the months it would take to win Labor back some respect for at least
giving us a competent, no-dramas government.
Bill Shorten, though, can argue he represents Labor's future, while Crean only its past.
He's bright, ambitious and communicates more crisply than Crean, and, as a
former union boss, can just as credibly dump the carbon-dioxide tax and
talk jobs instead.
Unlike Crean, he could take Labor to a creditable loss and still come out ahead,
as did Tony Abbott at the last election, by showing he fought well.
A loss would end Crean's leadership; a loss could just introduce Shorten's,
because he's clearly a longer-term bet.
But Shorten is a gamble.
Does Labor want to risk burning him now
by having him lead it to the expected disaster?
More importantly, is he really capable of turning a near-rabble
into a competent government?
The highest office he's held is Assistant Treasurer, and his personal style
grows more abrasive and patrician with the years.
As one former ally put it harshly:
"He has all of Rudd's vices, with none of his virtues."
He can divide, but can he unite?
Then, of course, there's the people's choice -
the ever-hopeful Kevin Rudd.
Newspoll puts the Foreign Minister's support as preferred Labor leader
as more than twice Gillard's - 57 per cent to just 24.
Everyone else rates nowhere.
But putting the former prime minister back in his old job
is likely to give Labor no more than a sugar rush.
More than half of Labor's strife today was caused by Rudd yesterday,
back when he was acting like an emperor with attention-deficit disorder.
It was Rudd who stupidly weakened the boat people laws,
unleashing the flood of boats that Labor has been unable to stem.
It was Rudd who blew a huge surplus on trash.
It was Rudd's careless spending
that gave Labor its terrible reputation for waste.
It was Rudd, with his typical grandiosity,
who hung the albatross of global warming
around Labor's neck, falsely declaring it
"the greatest moral, economic and social
challenge of our time".
AND, of course, his colleagues detest him,
remembering his arrogance, impulsiveness and disloyalty,
as well as the total dysfunction of his government.
Put Rudd back in now, and within months he could back at his worst,
reminding voters why he was already on the slide when Gillard knifed him.
No, Rudd is the option Labor chooses only at the desperate last minute,
when the election is too close for him to have time to make more mistakes.
As for the others ... well, Defence Minister Stephen Smith is a total
unknown to the public. Worse, he's both grey, yet disturbingly erratic,
as shown by his wild over-reaction to the Skype affair at the Australian
Defence Academy.
So Labor is frozen with indecision.
Meanwhile, its brand rots away, and each month brings yet another humiliation.
Each month also means one less left to show that Labor really can govern, after all.
And the day of reckoning could be as soon as June,
if independent MP Andrew Wilkie is serious when he says
he'll vote down this Government if it doesn't deliver his pokie reforms.
So the clock is ticking. Tick, tick, tick.
Read Andrew's column each Wednesday and Saturday in the Herald Sun. Join him at 8am each weekday on MTR 1377
that was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper?
There is no viable replacement
for Julia Gillard in the Labor Party
Andrew Bolt
From: Herald Sun
September 07, 2011 12:00AM
Labor is stuck with a Prime Minister
who won't give up and no viable replacement.
Herald Sun
JULIA Gillard is now the zombie Prime Minister - the walking dead.
Her government dropped yesterday to a record low in Newspoll,
at just 41 per cent of the preferred vote to the Coalition's 59.
Just a quarter of voters like the job she's doing, and from that there is no coming back.
Three things need to be sorted out by Labor before Gillard is replaced.
First, she needs to be persuaded to resign, much as Alexander Downer
selflessly did to end his own hopeless year as Liberal leader.
Labor cannot afford the shame of another knifing,
and Gillard's successor cannot afford the stain.
That's why some of the people most likely to take over - notably Assistant
Treasurer Bill Shorten and Defence Minister Stephen Smith - insist they
back Gillard completely.
Both want clean hands, especially Shorten,
who still hasn't washed off all Kevin Rudd's blood.
The trouble for Labor is that Gillard doesn't seem about to budge.
Related Coverage
- Have your say:
Andrew Bolt's blog
- Respected cleanskin might save the furniture The Australian, 4 days ago
- PM vows: I'm not going anywhere Herald Sun, 4 days ago
- Queen's reign ending, who will be next? Herald Sun, 4 days ago
- Gillard has no option but to quit Herald Sun, 5 days ago
- I'm not going anywhere: PM Herald Sun, 5 days ago
"I'm the best person to do this job."
So Labor is paralysed. For now.
Second, Labor needs to decide if it just wants a better salesman,
or a better product, too.
Does it dump Gillard alone, or the carbon dioxide tax with her?
If Labor wants to keep the tax, then it will probably let Gillard
get it through Parliament, so she wears any blame.
That gives her time.
But if Labor wants to dump it, it may have to move against Gillard by next
week, when she is due to introduce the tax Bill to Parliament.
Unless, of course, her successor wants to argue in favour of her tax in
Parliament next week, only to have to repeal a law for it later.
Then there's the last question. Who?
Who to choose to lead Labor to its inevitable defeat?
This is the most agonising decision of all. If the answer were clear, the
Prime Minister would be gone already, but all the contenders are flawed
and bring big risks.
Take even the most obvious of them.
Simon Crean, now Regional Australia Minister, is the person you'd choose if
you believed what Labor most needed now was calm, boring, stable
leadership, just to end the chaos and show Labor is not completely
incompetent.
Crean, a former ACTU president, has gravitas and is vastly experienced,
having been a good minister in the Hawke and Keating governments and
then leader of the Opposition, where he was brought down more by Labor
infighting than any big mistakes.
Yes, I know you are yawning already, but that's the idea.
This Government needs to get serious. Get boring.
It can't afford any more wild ideas like cash for clunkers, or any more
half-baked promises, like an East Timor detention centre that even East
Timor doesn't want.
Crean also has the clout to mend Labor's relationship with the unions,
dangerously frayed by Gillard, and has the links to reassure business,
which is now so spooked and giving Labor a shellacking.
What's more, he could dump the carbon-dioxide tax without much embarrassment,
and talk with credibility about saving manufacturing jobs instead, like a good union man.
But his weakness is that he wasn't a vote magnet as Opposition leader and is not
one now. He is no charmer, and no orator. He wouldn't give Labor an instant boost
in the polls.
He'd instead need patience from a panicking party so he could spend
the months it would take to win Labor back some respect for at least
giving us a competent, no-dramas government.
Bill Shorten, though, can argue he represents Labor's future, while Crean only its past.
He's bright, ambitious and communicates more crisply than Crean, and, as a
former union boss, can just as credibly dump the carbon-dioxide tax and
talk jobs instead.
Unlike Crean, he could take Labor to a creditable loss and still come out ahead,
as did Tony Abbott at the last election, by showing he fought well.
A loss would end Crean's leadership; a loss could just introduce Shorten's,
because he's clearly a longer-term bet.
But Shorten is a gamble.
Does Labor want to risk burning him now
by having him lead it to the expected disaster?
More importantly, is he really capable of turning a near-rabble
into a competent government?
The highest office he's held is Assistant Treasurer, and his personal style
grows more abrasive and patrician with the years.
As one former ally put it harshly:
"He has all of Rudd's vices, with none of his virtues."
He can divide, but can he unite?
Then, of course, there's the people's choice -
the ever-hopeful Kevin Rudd.
Newspoll puts the Foreign Minister's support as preferred Labor leader
as more than twice Gillard's - 57 per cent to just 24.
Everyone else rates nowhere.
But putting the former prime minister back in his old job
is likely to give Labor no more than a sugar rush.
More than half of Labor's strife today was caused by Rudd yesterday,
back when he was acting like an emperor with attention-deficit disorder.
It was Rudd who stupidly weakened the boat people laws,
unleashing the flood of boats that Labor has been unable to stem.
It was Rudd who blew a huge surplus on trash.
It was Rudd's careless spending
that gave Labor its terrible reputation for waste.
It was Rudd, with his typical grandiosity,
who hung the albatross of global warming
around Labor's neck, falsely declaring it
"the greatest moral, economic and social
challenge of our time".
AND, of course, his colleagues detest him,
remembering his arrogance, impulsiveness and disloyalty,
as well as the total dysfunction of his government.
Put Rudd back in now, and within months he could back at his worst,
reminding voters why he was already on the slide when Gillard knifed him.
No, Rudd is the option Labor chooses only at the desperate last minute,
when the election is too close for him to have time to make more mistakes.
As for the others ... well, Defence Minister Stephen Smith is a total
unknown to the public. Worse, he's both grey, yet disturbingly erratic,
as shown by his wild over-reaction to the Skype affair at the Australian
Defence Academy.
So Labor is frozen with indecision.
Meanwhile, its brand rots away, and each month brings yet another humiliation.
Each month also means one less left to show that Labor really can govern, after all.
And the day of reckoning could be as soon as June,
if independent MP Andrew Wilkie is serious when he says
he'll vote down this Government if it doesn't deliver his pokie reforms.
So the clock is ticking. Tick, tick, tick.
Read Andrew's column each Wednesday and Saturday in the Herald Sun. Join him at 8am each weekday on MTR 1377
true lilly- Posts : 6205
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Re: ZOMBIE Govt.: TICK, TICK, TICK...HOW can ANY AUSTRALIAN, still Follow "tintin"/Icke
true lilly Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:30 am
Calls to sack MP for extremist support
6:04PM
AAP
SENATOR Cory Bernardi
is facing an angry backlash
after promising to help organise
notorious Dutch MP Geert Wilders'
visit to Australia.
Yes, it's also rather telling that none of the many
Australians at David Icke Official Forums, or,
ANY of TEAM TINTIN have bothered to cover this
NEWS (that is CHOCK FULL of what TEAM TINTIN
posted many of 'their' TWISTED [NON]linked, 'links'),
NOW, when ACTUAL LINKS between ACTUAL people,
in CURRENT, AUSTRALIAN And DUTCH Governments,
are flagging what I so long ago, warned to watch for.
Calls to sack Cory Bernardi over his support to
controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders
AAP
From:Herald Sun
September 07, 2011 6:04PM
Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders
wants to visit Australia. Picture: AFP Herald Sun
Liberal senator Cory Bernardi.
Picture: Kym Smith Herald Sun
LIBERAL senator Cory Bernardi is facing an angry backlash and calls
for his scalp after he promised to help controversial Dutch politician
Geert Wilders organise his visit to Australia.
Mr Wilders, 48, has faced accusations of racial vilification
for his hostile views on Islam.
He provoked outrage among the Netherland's Muslim community after
branding Islam a violent religion, likening the Koran to Hitler's Mein
Kampf and calling the Prophet Mohammed a pedophile.
Senator Bernardi has admitted extending an invitation to assist Mr Wilders
with "his schedule or arranging appropriate meetings" in Australia.
But has since moved to distance himself from the visit.
Senator Bernardi is the shadow parliamentary secretary for families
and assisting the opposition leader.
Related Coverage
indiscretions espousing right-wing extremist views and the issue would
be a test for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's integrity.
He said if Mr Abbott failed to act, it would be telling of his own views.
"It will just demonstrate Mr Abbott is someone who can't be believed and
is someone who also sides with extremists," he told ABC TV.
Labor frontbencher Peter Garrett echoed the call saying Mr Wilders had
dangerous views "which are completely at odds with Australian culture
and Australian values.
"Mr Abbott should show some leadership,
discipline this senator, remove him from his portfolio
responsibilities," he told reporters in Sydney today.
Mr Garrett declined to say if he believed Mr Abbott should have Senator Bernardi
expelled from the Liberal Party, in the way John Howard had Pauline Hanson
disendorsed as a candidate ahead of the 1996 election.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott denied Senator Bernardi was
trying to bring Mr Wilders to Australia.
"That's not the position, he's not," the Liberal leader told reporters in Brisbane.
"The coalition has nothing to do with the organisation of any trip."
Senator Bernardi has previously called for the burqa to be banned, although
this view is not endorsed by his coalition colleagues.
The British initially banned Mr Wilders from visiting their shores in early
2009 because of fears he would threaten community harmony and public
security.
Labor senator Kate Lundy would not say whether Australia should ban Mr Wilder's
from visiting.
"Mr Wilders will have to go through the normal processes for applying for a visa,"
she told reporters in Canberra on Wednesday.
She said Senator Bernardi was sponsoring Mr Wilders' visit
"like he was some sort of rock star".
"Mr Wilders' views are very hurtful and offensive to Muslims and I think to many Australians," she said.
Australian Greens senator Richard Di Natale
condemned Senator Bernardi's associations with the Dutch hardliner.
"Multiculturalism is one of this country's great successes and it must be defended," he said.
The question is whether Tony Abbott is prepared to defend it from those in his ranks.
In 2009, Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull sacked Cory Bernardi from
being shadow parliamentary secretary for disabilities, carers and the
voluntary sector, following his thinly veiled slur about fellow South
Australian Christopher Pyne.
Speaking to reporters in Sydney, senior coalition frontbencher Joe Hockey said
Wilders was an unpleasant character who should be avoided.
"This gentleman seems like a very unpleasant character and I think
it's far better we have nothing to do with him," he said.
Mr Hockey declined to say if he believed Senator Bernardi should be disciplined
for supporting families portfolio.
"I'm not going to speculate on those matters," he said.
Mr Hockey said he was sure Mr Abbott was telling the truth when the
opposition leader said he did not offer to organise Mr Wilders' visit
to Australia.
"I'm sure that Tony Abbott is telling the truth," Mr Hockey said.
______________________________________________________
...yet, RABID Anti-Semite David Icke,
and all his RABID Anti-Christ Followers,
have the gall to PROMOTE his coming here,
TO CHARGE US TO HAVE HIM PREACH
HIS ANTI-CHRIST RELIGION AT US!
6:04PM
AAP
SENATOR Cory Bernardi
is facing an angry backlash
after promising to help organise
notorious Dutch MP Geert Wilders'
visit to Australia.
Yes, it's also rather telling that none of the many
Australians at David Icke Official Forums, or,
ANY of TEAM TINTIN have bothered to cover this
NEWS (that is CHOCK FULL of what TEAM TINTIN
posted many of 'their' TWISTED [NON]linked, 'links'),
NOW, when ACTUAL LINKS between ACTUAL people,
in CURRENT, AUSTRALIAN And DUTCH Governments,
are flagging what I so long ago, warned to watch for.
Calls to sack Cory Bernardi over his support to
controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders
AAP
From:Herald Sun
September 07, 2011 6:04PM
Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders
wants to visit Australia. Picture: AFP Herald Sun
Liberal senator Cory Bernardi.
Picture: Kym Smith Herald Sun
LIBERAL senator Cory Bernardi is facing an angry backlash and calls
for his scalp after he promised to help controversial Dutch politician
Geert Wilders organise his visit to Australia.
Mr Wilders, 48, has faced accusations of racial vilification
for his hostile views on Islam.
He provoked outrage among the Netherland's Muslim community after
branding Islam a violent religion, likening the Koran to Hitler's Mein
Kampf and calling the Prophet Mohammed a pedophile.
Senator Bernardi has admitted extending an invitation to assist Mr Wilders
with "his schedule or arranging appropriate meetings" in Australia.
But has since moved to distance himself from the visit.
Senator Bernardi is the shadow parliamentary secretary for families
and assisting the opposition leader.
Related Coverage
- ALP calls for clarifying on Wilders visit Herald Sun, 9 hours ago
- Right-winger invite angers Libs Adelaide Now, 20 hours ago
- Dutch MP banned in the UK wants to visit Herald Sun, 20 hours ago
- Call for meat slaughter method labelling Herald Sun, 24 Aug 2011
- Ambitious MP fans flames of love Herald Sun, 22 May 2011
indiscretions espousing right-wing extremist views and the issue would
be a test for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's integrity.
He said if Mr Abbott failed to act, it would be telling of his own views.
"It will just demonstrate Mr Abbott is someone who can't be believed and
is someone who also sides with extremists," he told ABC TV.
Labor frontbencher Peter Garrett echoed the call saying Mr Wilders had
dangerous views "which are completely at odds with Australian culture
and Australian values.
"Mr Abbott should show some leadership,
discipline this senator, remove him from his portfolio
responsibilities," he told reporters in Sydney today.
Mr Garrett declined to say if he believed Mr Abbott should have Senator Bernardi
expelled from the Liberal Party, in the way John Howard had Pauline Hanson
disendorsed as a candidate ahead of the 1996 election.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott denied Senator Bernardi was
trying to bring Mr Wilders to Australia.
"That's not the position, he's not," the Liberal leader told reporters in Brisbane.
"The coalition has nothing to do with the organisation of any trip."
Senator Bernardi has previously called for the burqa to be banned, although
this view is not endorsed by his coalition colleagues.
The British initially banned Mr Wilders from visiting their shores in early
2009 because of fears he would threaten community harmony and public
security.
Labor senator Kate Lundy would not say whether Australia should ban Mr Wilder's
from visiting.
"Mr Wilders will have to go through the normal processes for applying for a visa,"
she told reporters in Canberra on Wednesday.
She said Senator Bernardi was sponsoring Mr Wilders' visit
"like he was some sort of rock star".
"Mr Wilders' views are very hurtful and offensive to Muslims and I think to many Australians," she said.
Australian Greens senator Richard Di Natale
condemned Senator Bernardi's associations with the Dutch hardliner.
"Multiculturalism is one of this country's great successes and it must be defended," he said.
The question is whether Tony Abbott is prepared to defend it from those in his ranks.
In 2009, Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull sacked Cory Bernardi from
being shadow parliamentary secretary for disabilities, carers and the
voluntary sector, following his thinly veiled slur about fellow South
Australian Christopher Pyne.
Speaking to reporters in Sydney, senior coalition frontbencher Joe Hockey said
Wilders was an unpleasant character who should be avoided.
"This gentleman seems like a very unpleasant character and I think
it's far better we have nothing to do with him," he said.
Mr Hockey declined to say if he believed Senator Bernardi should be disciplined
for supporting families portfolio.
"I'm not going to speculate on those matters," he said.
Mr Hockey said he was sure Mr Abbott was telling the truth when the
opposition leader said he did not offer to organise Mr Wilders' visit
to Australia.
"I'm sure that Tony Abbott is telling the truth," Mr Hockey said.
______________________________________________________
...yet, RABID Anti-Semite David Icke,
and all his RABID Anti-Christ Followers,
have the gall to PROMOTE his coming here,
TO CHARGE US TO HAVE HIM PREACH
HIS ANTI-CHRIST RELIGION AT US!
true lilly- Posts : 6205
Join date : 2010-01-02
Age : 62
Location : VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
Re: ZOMBIE Govt.: TICK, TICK, TICK...HOW can ANY AUSTRALIAN, still Follow "tintin"/Icke
Billy Ruben Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:49 am
[quote="true lilly"]Oh there is so much in this, today's article, by Andrew Bolt,
that was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper?
Professional Forum Manipulating Troll???
Really?Mild but persistant nuisance I was going for on the threat level meter.Thankyou for the recognition.
that was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper?
Professional Forum Manipulating Troll???
Really?Mild but persistant nuisance I was going for on the threat level meter.Thankyou for the recognition.
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: ZOMBIE Govt.: TICK, TICK, TICK...HOW can ANY AUSTRALIAN, still Follow "tintin"/Icke
Billy Ruben Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:22 am
[quote="Billy Ruben"]
It's more than that eh?You signed off pretty quick,thought I was on ignore,how can my presence bother you so much?Ifeel a bit shamed,look,I left all the other threads alone,I behaved.Just tolerate it.
true lilly wrote:Oh there is so much in this, today's article, by Andrew Bolt,
that was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper?
Professional Forum Manipulating Troll???
Really?Mild but persistant nuisance I was going for on the threat level meter.Thankyou for the recognition.
It's more than that eh?You signed off pretty quick,thought I was on ignore,how can my presence bother you so much?Ifeel a bit shamed,look,I left all the other threads alone,I behaved.Just tolerate it.
Billy Ruben- Posts : 8077
Join date : 2010-03-29
Location : No Fixed Address
Re: ZOMBIE Govt.: TICK, TICK, TICK...HOW can ANY AUSTRALIAN, still Follow "tintin"/Icke
MoMo Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:11 am
true lilly wrote: Oh there is so much in this, today's article, by Andrew Boltthat was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper? ..............
Suzi Woo woo strikes again!! er......Don't look now but you are everybit the Bullshit Artist of those you condemn......you are still Tinnytintins ingenue, you are just jealous that he has added other bimbos to his coterie......
................. 
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Billy Ruben Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:29 am
el kabong wrote:true lilly wrote: Oh there is so much in this, today's article, by Andrew Boltthat was raised and covered years ago, in other old forums
and other old threads...but also, "covered over" by the likes
of "tintin", "cori", "Ciggy", Jason and the rest of those mobs
of professional Forum Manipulating Trolls...so many, Specific,
Key, words, phrases, And Issues that the MSM also did the
dance of denial around, back then...and Key words and phrases
that are, currently, having all and any truth twisted out of them,
by the like's of "tintin" and his kiss arses...so what could it mean,
to NOW see so much of what I posted Warnings to Watch for,
(that Team Tintin are still working flat out to bury under barrow
loads of B.S. and twisted demon tales), written by a Feature,
High Profile writer for Murdock's most successful paper? .............
Suzi Woo woo strikes again!! er......Don't look now but you are everybit the Bullshit Artist of those you condemn......you are still Tinnytintins ingenue, you are just jealous that he has added other bimbos to his coterie......
It's a shame,I can't find the quote,but despite what some think of Tintin around here,He's been nothing but graceful about false accusations that he can't defend himself with.Why would he bother to be lured here to soil his name,that's one of the functions of the place,you might get what you say off your chest,but you fall from grace,when you mean't something more.I did'nt take it upon myself to defend Tintin,or he was useful for me,I compared the behaviour with what was written in that thread,The News Behind The News...and Tintin was very fair and handled scathing criticism as a gentleman,Vera Susa as True lilly was known at David Icke Forums,was disgraceful,filthy mouthed "Pitbull" with a sword,who even was treated with courteousy by bloody Ownoiz,who would tell you to go f*ck yourself,if needed and recommended.He held it.No,to slay this dragon,this lizard,one must be relentless and pay her back,with the same filth and insult she dishes out.Grrrrr!
Usually the person making the complaint is the one originally causing the trouble and cleverly manouvring people into trouble,you can't do that here at Sodliked Productions.
Forgiveness,is the hardest lesson for me,to learn.
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MoMo Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:52 am
Ahoy!!! Billyboy, hands down, without a doubt, suzi woo woo aka 'tru lilly' is the biggest bullshit artist on the Internetz. I'm no fan of Tinnytintin as he is an Antisemite and does propagate lies and false propaganda about the Jews and Israel and when I graciously brought his errors to his attention he snarled and snapped at me, called me a crocodile. 
. Just like his bitch ingenue suzi woo woo aka 'tru lilly'.....they are both bullshit artists, at least tinnytintin doesn't do the 'poor me, i'm a persecuted martyr prophet of god schtick...........I really need that :rolleyes: emoticon,
suzi woo woo won't stand toe to toe, she can't support any of her Biblical exegesis with credentialed legitimate sources, she hasn't evolved as a human as long as I have been observing her......she is stuck in her banality. 
. Just like his bitch ingenue suzi woo woo aka 'tru lilly'.....they are both bullshit artists, at least tinnytintin doesn't do the 'poor me, i'm a persecuted martyr prophet of god schtick...........I really need that :rolleyes: emoticon, suzi woo woo won't stand toe to toe, she can't support any of her Biblical exegesis with credentialed legitimate sources, she hasn't evolved as a human as long as I have been observing her......she is stuck in her banality.
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Billy Ruben Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:05 pm
el kabong wrote:Ahoy!!! Billyboy, hands down, without a doubt, suzi woo woo aka 'tru lilly' is the biggest bullshit artist on the Internetz. I'm no fan of Tinnytintin as he is an Antisemite and does propagate lies and false propaganda about the Jews and Israel and when I graciously brought his errors to his attention he snarled and snapped at me, called me a crocodile.
suzi woo woo won't stand toe to toe, she can't support any of her Biblical exegesis with credentialed legitimate sources, she hasn't evolved as a human as long as I have been observing her......she is stuck in her banality.
I do not deny I'm afraid of her.I might have tried to spook her with my investigative skills,like working out where she lives,bakery she visits,but she's got people ringing me up,connected with a bike shop in Melbourne,she's up to something.I won't do a thing with what I figure it out,it's just fun to play on that paranoid mind,well,she invents heaps of shit,and that's why I go her.
Did you know,I would'nt know who Tintin was if it was'nt for Vera Susa/True Lilly.Same for Tiswas and JD,if JD did'nt make threads I would'nt know half you guys.So your attackers in ways,make you minor online celebrities,something I'm in danger of achieving with True Lilly.
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MoMo Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:21 pm
Just remember this Billyboy, she is an Idiot. You are not.
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Billy Ruben Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:26 pm
el kabong wrote:Just remember this Billyboy, she is an Idiot. You are not.
I hope her motor-cycle thugs think sensible like you!!!
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true lilly Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:17 pm
End 'lawfare' by ditching UN policies
PAUL SHEEHAN
A disconnect has grown between
the will of the people and
the legal activists who wage ''lawfare'' -
the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
52
...so much news lately, that examples this opinion
(that came after, I posted the same opinion
), that
I don't know where to begin...probably should have
more than 31/2 hours sleep, and finished my first
coffee before it went cold, prior to attempting to
to put it together...ah but why bother at all...when
anyone who can't see it for themselves by now, is
probably 'permanently blind', or part of that most
TRAITOROUS CABAL.
PAUL SHEEHAN
A disconnect has grown between
the will of the people and
the legal activists who wage ''lawfare'' -
the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
52
...so much news lately, that examples this opinion
(that came after, I posted the same opinion
), thatI don't know where to begin...probably should have
more than 31/2 hours sleep, and finished my first
coffee before it went cold, prior to attempting to
to put it together...ah but why bother at all...when
anyone who can't see it for themselves by now, is
probably 'permanently blind', or part of that most
TRAITOROUS CABAL.
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true lilly Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:52 pm
End 'lawfare' by ditching UN policies
PAUL SHEEHAN
A disconnect has grown between
the will of the people and
the legal activists who wage ''lawfare'' -
the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
52
...so much news lately, that examples this opinion
(that came after, I posted the same opinion ), that
I don't know where to begin...probably should have
more than 31/2 hours sleep, and finished my first
coffee before it went cold, prior to attempting to
to put it together...ah but why bother at all...when
anyone who can't see it for themselves by now, is
probably 'permanently blind', or part of that most
TRAITOROUS CABAL.
The Gillard government
has failed in deterring
the people smuggling trade.
Photo: Reuters
Just wondering, is it still 'legal' to ask for,
receive and publish, a list of the RELIGIONS
of the PEOPLE being TRADED and
SMUGGLED IN TO AUSTRALIA?
And again I have to wonder if it is
Gillard's PRIMARY Job, to SHOW US
JUST HOW BADLY The GREEN LEFT
-overs of Nazi Faithful installed in
Australia-HAVE BETRAYED THIS
NATION to 'their' Foreign 'mates'.
September 8, 2011
Opinion
The Gillard government
has failed in deterring
the people smuggling trade.
Photo: Reuters
A disconnect has grown between the will of the people
and the legal activists who successfully circumvent democracy
by waging ''lawfare'' - the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
Ideological lawfare is now clogging the entire legal system
in the name of refugee rights. The people enmeshed in this campaign
against Parliament range from the Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert French,
to the ideologues toiling in the lower courts and refugee tribunals.
The Australian public has made it clear it regards the
people smuggling trade as an affront to Australian morality,
security and sovereignty.
If the federal government cannot curb this traffic,
it is a failure significant enough to turn an election.
The public understands that only punitive measures can deter the trade.
That the Gillard government has failed in this duty is clear.
What has not yet sunk into the public consciousness is the full extent
and cost of this failure as the courts are swamped by litigious refugee applicants
and their legal advocates.
The entire process is an immensely cynical exercise
dressed up as high morality. How pervasive this problem has become
can be seen by these statistical indicators:
Of 148 decisions handed down by the Federal Court this year,
43 of them, almost one in three, were immigration cases.
The Federal Court has so far heard 157 cases involving
the Minister for Immigration this year, by far the largest category.
The Refugee Review Tribunal has heard 737 cases this year, and counting.
Most immigration litigation is being funded by the taxpayer,
either directly via legal aid or circuitously via other subsidies.
The High Court ruled last week, in effect, that
Australian law must conform to the United Nations
Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees,
as incorporated in the Migration Act.
The convention imposes a virtually
unlimited right of access to any country by anyone who deems themselves,
in good faith, to be in flight from persecution.
The ruling opened the door to possible legal actions
by asylum seekers sent to Nauru by the Howard government.
Until last month Nauru was not a signatory to the UN Convention.
Most asylum assessments are taking more than six months,
adding to incarceration costs.
Australia has accepted a higher percentage of asylum seekers
than the UN High Commissioner of Refugees process -
another incentive to bypass the UN system.
History is repeating itself. A veteran of ideological lawfare,
the Melbourne barrister and former judge Ron Merkel QC, has
become involved in preparing possibly wider legal challenges to the
government's immigration policies.
Merkel is the activist who sowed the seed, back in 1990,
that eventually became the Bringing Them Home
or ''stolen generations'' report. It included the false claim that
Australia had practised genocide toward the Aborigines. The costly
litigation that ensued was largely a disaster and neither report nor
litigation improved the material welfare of indigenous Australians,
while creating enormous division in the name of reconciliation.
In short, the stolen generations report was a nullity for reconciliation
and a paradise for lawyers. Ditto the lawfare now being waged
on behalf of refugees.
As a result of the High Court's decision last week in
M70 v Minister for Immigration, 4000 refugees in Malaysia will miss out
on entering Australia. It will also reap a political blowback when the
public understand the magnitude of how the intent of the Parliament has
been subverted in the courts.
The legal quagmire in which the federal government and
the courts are stuck could be escaped at a single stroke.
The root cause is the United Nations, the majority of whose members
are not democracies, and specifically Australia's signature on the United
Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees.
Australia should withdraw from the convention, citing its
increasing unworkability, impossibly loose language and unlimited
impositions. An entire theatre of ideological lawfare would be laid to
waste, and after changes to the Migration Act to pre-empt such lawfare,
Australian democracy, security and sovereignty would be strengthened.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/end-lawfare-by-ditching-unworkable-un-policies-20110907-1jxr3.html#ixzz1XJTFpWs4
PAUL SHEEHAN
A disconnect has grown between
the will of the people and
the legal activists who wage ''lawfare'' -
the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
52
...so much news lately, that examples this opinion
(that came after, I posted the same opinion
), thatI don't know where to begin...probably should have
more than 31/2 hours sleep, and finished my first
coffee before it went cold, prior to attempting to
to put it together...ah but why bother at all...when
anyone who can't see it for themselves by now, is
probably 'permanently blind', or part of that most
TRAITOROUS CABAL.
The Gillard government
has failed in deterring
the people smuggling trade.
Photo: Reuters
Just wondering, is it still 'legal' to ask for,
receive and publish, a list of the RELIGIONS
of the PEOPLE being TRADED and
SMUGGLED IN TO AUSTRALIA?
And again I have to wonder if it is
Gillard's PRIMARY Job, to SHOW US
JUST HOW BADLY The GREEN LEFT
-overs of Nazi Faithful installed in
Australia-HAVE BETRAYED THIS
NATION to 'their' Foreign 'mates'.
End 'lawfare' by ditching unworkable UN policiestrue lilly wrote:Calls to sack MP for extremist support
6:04PM
AAP
SENATOR Cory Bernardi
is facing an angry backlash
after promising to help organise
notorious Dutch MP Geert Wilders'
visit to Australia.
Yes, it's also rather telling that none of the many
Australians at David Icke Official Forums, or,
ANY of TEAM TINTIN have bothered to cover this
NEWS (that is CHOCK FULL of what TEAM TINTIN
posted many of 'their' TWISTED [NON]linked, 'links'),
NOW, when ACTUAL LINKS between ACTUAL people,
in CURRENT, AUSTRALIAN And DUTCH Governments,
are flagging what I so long ago, warned to watch for.
Calls to sack Cory Bernardi over his support to
controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders
AAP
From:Herald Sun
September 07, 2011 6:04PM
Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders
wants to visit Australia. Picture: AFP Herald Sun
Liberal senator Cory Bernardi.
Picture: Kym Smith Herald Sun
LIBERAL senator Cory Bernardi is facing an angry backlash and calls
for his scalp after he promised to help controversial Dutch politician
Geert Wilders organise his visit to Australia.
Mr Wilders, 48, has faced accusations of racial vilification
for his hostile views on Islam.
He provoked outrage among the Netherland's Muslim community after
branding Islam a violent religion, likening the Koran to Hitler's Mein
Kampf and calling the Prophet Mohammed a pedophile.
Senator Bernardi has admitted extending an invitation to assist Mr Wilders
with "his schedule or arranging appropriate meetings" in Australia.
But has since moved to distance himself from the visit.
Senator Bernardi is the shadow parliamentary secretary for families
and assisting the opposition leader.
Related CoverageTreasurer Wayne Swan said Senator Bernardi had a history of
- ALP calls for clarifying on Wilders visit Herald Sun, 9 hours ago
- Right-winger invite angers Libs Adelaide Now, 20 hours ago
- Dutch MP banned in the UK wants to visit Herald Sun, 20 hours ago
- Call for meat slaughter method labelling Herald Sun, 24 Aug 2011
- Ambitious MP fans flames of love Herald Sun, 22 May 2011
indiscretions espousing right-wing extremist views and the issue would
be a test for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's integrity.
He said if Mr Abbott failed to act, it would be telling of his own views.
"It will just demonstrate Mr Abbott is someone who can't be believed and
is someone who also sides with extremists," he told ABC TV.
Labor frontbencher Peter Garrett echoed the call saying Mr Wilders had
dangerous views "which are completely at odds with Australian culture
and Australian values.
"Mr Abbott should show some leadership,
discipline this senator, remove him from his portfolio
responsibilities," he told reporters in Sydney today.
Mr Garrett declined to say if he believed Mr Abbott should have Senator Bernardi
expelled from the Liberal Party, in the way John Howard had Pauline Hanson
disendorsed as a candidate ahead of the 1996 election.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott denied Senator Bernardi was
trying to bring Mr Wilders to Australia.
"That's not the position, he's not," the Liberal leader told reporters in Brisbane.
"The coalition has nothing to do with the organisation of any trip."
Senator Bernardi has previously called for the burqa to be banned, although
this view is not endorsed by his coalition colleagues.
The British initially banned Mr Wilders from visiting their shores in early
2009 because of fears he would threaten community harmony and public
security.
Labor senator Kate Lundy would not say whether Australia should ban Mr Wilder's
from visiting.
"Mr Wilders will have to go through the normal processes for applying for a visa,"
she told reporters in Canberra on Wednesday.
She said Senator Bernardi was sponsoring Mr Wilders' visit
"like he was some sort of rock star".
"Mr Wilders' views are very hurtful and offensive to Muslims and I think to many Australians," she said.
Australian Greens senator Richard Di Natale
condemned Senator Bernardi's associations with the Dutch hardliner.
"Multiculturalism is one of this country's great successes and it must be defended," he said.
The question is whether Tony Abbott is prepared to defend it from those in his ranks.
In 2009, Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull sacked Cory Bernardi from
being shadow parliamentary secretary for disabilities, carers and the
voluntary sector, following his thinly veiled slur about fellow South
Australian Christopher Pyne.
Speaking to reporters in Sydney, senior coalition frontbencher Joe Hockey said
Wilders was an unpleasant character who should be avoided.
"This gentleman seems like a very unpleasant character and I think
it's far better we have nothing to do with him," he said.
Mr Hockey declined to say if he believed Senator Bernardi should be disciplined
for supporting families portfolio.
"I'm not going to speculate on those matters," he said.
Mr Hockey said he was sure Mr Abbott was telling the truth when the
opposition leader said he did not offer to organise Mr Wilders' visit
to Australia.
"I'm sure that Tony Abbott is telling the truth," Mr Hockey said.
______________________________________________________
...yet, RABID Anti-Semite David Icke,
and all his RABID Anti-Christ Followers,
have the gall to PROMOTE his coming here,
TO CHARGE US TO HAVE HIM PREACH
HIS ANTI-CHRIST RELIGION AT US!
September 8, 2011
Opinion
The Gillard government
has failed in deterring
the people smuggling trade.
Photo: Reuters
A disconnect has grown between the will of the people
and the legal activists who successfully circumvent democracy
by waging ''lawfare'' - the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
Ideological lawfare is now clogging the entire legal system
in the name of refugee rights. The people enmeshed in this campaign
against Parliament range from the Chief Justice of the High Court, Robert French,
to the ideologues toiling in the lower courts and refugee tribunals.
The Australian public has made it clear it regards the
people smuggling trade as an affront to Australian morality,
security and sovereignty.
If the federal government cannot curb this traffic,
it is a failure significant enough to turn an election.
The public understands that only punitive measures can deter the trade.
That the Gillard government has failed in this duty is clear.
What has not yet sunk into the public consciousness is the full extent
and cost of this failure as the courts are swamped by litigious refugee applicants
and their legal advocates.
The entire process is an immensely cynical exercise
dressed up as high morality. How pervasive this problem has become
can be seen by these statistical indicators:
Of 148 decisions handed down by the Federal Court this year,
43 of them, almost one in three, were immigration cases.
The Federal Court has so far heard 157 cases involving
the Minister for Immigration this year, by far the largest category.
The Refugee Review Tribunal has heard 737 cases this year, and counting.
Most immigration litigation is being funded by the taxpayer,
either directly via legal aid or circuitously via other subsidies.
The High Court ruled last week, in effect, that
Australian law must conform to the United Nations
Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees,
as incorporated in the Migration Act.
The convention imposes a virtually
unlimited right of access to any country by anyone who deems themselves,
in good faith, to be in flight from persecution.
The ruling opened the door to possible legal actions
by asylum seekers sent to Nauru by the Howard government.
Until last month Nauru was not a signatory to the UN Convention.
Most asylum assessments are taking more than six months,
adding to incarceration costs.
Australia has accepted a higher percentage of asylum seekers
than the UN High Commissioner of Refugees process -
another incentive to bypass the UN system.
History is repeating itself. A veteran of ideological lawfare,
the Melbourne barrister and former judge Ron Merkel QC, has
become involved in preparing possibly wider legal challenges to the
government's immigration policies.
Merkel is the activist who sowed the seed, back in 1990,
that eventually became the Bringing Them Home
or ''stolen generations'' report. It included the false claim that
Australia had practised genocide toward the Aborigines. The costly
litigation that ensued was largely a disaster and neither report nor
litigation improved the material welfare of indigenous Australians,
while creating enormous division in the name of reconciliation.
In short, the stolen generations report was a nullity for reconciliation
and a paradise for lawyers. Ditto the lawfare now being waged
on behalf of refugees.
As a result of the High Court's decision last week in
M70 v Minister for Immigration, 4000 refugees in Malaysia will miss out
on entering Australia. It will also reap a political blowback when the
public understand the magnitude of how the intent of the Parliament has
been subverted in the courts.
The legal quagmire in which the federal government and
the courts are stuck could be escaped at a single stroke.
The root cause is the United Nations, the majority of whose members
are not democracies, and specifically Australia's signature on the United
Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees.
Australia should withdraw from the convention, citing its
increasing unworkability, impossibly loose language and unlimited
impositions. An entire theatre of ideological lawfare would be laid to
waste, and after changes to the Migration Act to pre-empt such lawfare,
Australian democracy, security and sovereignty would be strengthened.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/end-lawfare-by-ditching-unworkable-un-policies-20110907-1jxr3.html#ixzz1XJTFpWs4
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TICK, TICK, TICK...
true lilly Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:36 am
Labor won't sink Malaysian solution
September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.
52 comments on this story
Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard
September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.
52 comments on this story
Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard
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Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet
has canvassed the option of
abandoning the Malaysian solution
and a return to onshore processing.
Wow...what a difference some hours make...
TICK, TICK, TICK...
Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
From:Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011 12:00AM
Labor leaders Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard and Greg Combet. The Daily Telegraph
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet is divided over refugees and has canvassed
the option of abandoning the Malaysian solution and a return to onshore
processing.
But the Prime Minister is expected to prevail at a special meeting
of Cabinet tomorrow and stare down rebels in the ALP and Greens leader
Bob Brown.
Caucus tensions are rising as former PM Kevin Rudd continues to build his profile.
Mr Rudd's supporters have warned Labor colleagues that voters will "wipe
us off the planet" unless there is a change in leadership before the
next election.
A small group of backers in the ALP caucus is
urging colleagues to consider a back-to-the-future leadership ticket
before the next election with Defence Minister Stephen Smith also being
touted.
"The only way we are going to come out of this is to get Kevin back," a Labor MP said.
Related Coverage
Desperate to secure the support of Tony Abbott
for the reforms in Parliament, the Prime Minister will outline
a deal that will allow the Coalition to pursue Nauru as a future option
and reactivate Labor's preferred regional solution, including Malaysia.
Two senior ministers have told the Sunday Herald Sun that
the High Court ruling prompted Cabinet discussions over
whether the opportunity had arisen to dump offshore processing.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen even outlined the option in Cabinet,
but then explained why it was not an acceptable or effective method of
protecting the nation's borders.
Nauru was dismissed as an option because people smugglers knew
most asylum seekers ended up in Australia anyway and it was no longer
a deterrent.
The Gillard Government released costings yesterday suggesting the
Coalition's plan to reopen Nauru would cost $1 billion over four years.
"We know Nauru is not effective," Mr Bowen said.
"It's also a very expensive option."
There is still no guarantee the Coalition will support the new laws, a
prospect Labor has warned could result in up to 7000 asylum seekers
a year trying toreach Australia.
Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said he was not going to be lectured
by the Gillard Government about cost blowouts.
"The Coalition is willing to work with the Government if they wish to make
changes to the Act to put the issue of offshore processing beyond legal
doubt," he said. "But we've made no secret of our position on Malaysia."
According to senior ministers, long-standing concerns were
expressed in Cabinet over offshore processing.
The ALP platform clearly says
refugees should have their claims processed in Australia.
Sources said the discussions were respectful and part of a wide-ranging
conversation of all options, rather than a direct challenge to the PM's
authority.
Left faction convener Doug Cameron, who once complained
the ALP caucus had become political zombies too scared to speak their
minds, said the Malaysian solution was no solution at all.
"We should stick to the party platform," he said.
"That's onshore processing. It's the humane thing to do."
Northern Territory Senator Trish Crossin said:
"I don't think we should compromise on human rights as a first resort."
WA Labor MP Melissa Parke said she would argue strongly
against offshore processing.
ALP sources also suggested some Labor MPs may abstain from any vote.
They would face expulsion from the party
if they crossed the floor to vote with the Greens.
maidens@newsltd.com.au
Samantha Maiden
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet
has canvassed the option of
abandoning the Malaysian solution
and a return to onshore processing.
Wow...what a difference some hours make...
TICK, TICK, TICK...
true lilly wrote:Labor won't sink Malaysian solution
September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.
52 comments on this story
Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard
Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
From:Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011 12:00AM
Labor leaders Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard and Greg Combet. The Daily Telegraph
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet is divided over refugees and has canvassed
the option of abandoning the Malaysian solution and a return to onshore
processing.
But the Prime Minister is expected to prevail at a special meeting
of Cabinet tomorrow and stare down rebels in the ALP and Greens leader
Bob Brown.
Caucus tensions are rising as former PM Kevin Rudd continues to build his profile.
Mr Rudd's supporters have warned Labor colleagues that voters will "wipe
us off the planet" unless there is a change in leadership before the
next election.
A small group of backers in the ALP caucus is
urging colleagues to consider a back-to-the-future leadership ticket
before the next election with Defence Minister Stephen Smith also being
touted.
"The only way we are going to come out of this is to get Kevin back," a Labor MP said.
Related Coverage
- Comment: Rudd joins smile-high club again
- Canberra: Parliament staff complain of bullying
- Labor won't sink Malaysian solution Herald Sun, 10 hours ago
- Gillard seeks action as smugglers close in The Australian, 1 day ago
- Go offshore but where? The Australian, 2 days ago
- Ruddock rues the trashing of Nauru The Australian, 2 days ago
- Coalition's plan to solve refugee impasse The Australian, 2 days ago
Desperate to secure the support of Tony Abbott
for the reforms in Parliament, the Prime Minister will outline
a deal that will allow the Coalition to pursue Nauru as a future option
and reactivate Labor's preferred regional solution, including Malaysia.
Two senior ministers have told the Sunday Herald Sun that
the High Court ruling prompted Cabinet discussions over
whether the opportunity had arisen to dump offshore processing.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen even outlined the option in Cabinet,
but then explained why it was not an acceptable or effective method of
protecting the nation's borders.
Nauru was dismissed as an option because people smugglers knew
most asylum seekers ended up in Australia anyway and it was no longer
a deterrent.
The Gillard Government released costings yesterday suggesting the
Coalition's plan to reopen Nauru would cost $1 billion over four years.
"We know Nauru is not effective," Mr Bowen said.
"It's also a very expensive option."
There is still no guarantee the Coalition will support the new laws, a
prospect Labor has warned could result in up to 7000 asylum seekers
a year trying toreach Australia.
Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said he was not going to be lectured
by the Gillard Government about cost blowouts.
"The Coalition is willing to work with the Government if they wish to make
changes to the Act to put the issue of offshore processing beyond legal
doubt," he said. "But we've made no secret of our position on Malaysia."
According to senior ministers, long-standing concerns were
expressed in Cabinet over offshore processing.
The ALP platform clearly says
refugees should have their claims processed in Australia.
Sources said the discussions were respectful and part of a wide-ranging
conversation of all options, rather than a direct challenge to the PM's
authority.
Left faction convener Doug Cameron, who once complained
the ALP caucus had become political zombies too scared to speak their
minds, said the Malaysian solution was no solution at all.
"We should stick to the party platform," he said.
"That's onshore processing. It's the humane thing to do."
Northern Territory Senator Trish Crossin said:
"I don't think we should compromise on human rights as a first resort."
WA Labor MP Melissa Parke said she would argue strongly
against offshore processing.
ALP sources also suggested some Labor MPs may abstain from any vote.
They would face expulsion from the party
if they crossed the floor to vote with the Greens.
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Pressure over ghost boats
Border patrol failed to release
details of a distress call from a boat
carrying 105 asylum seekers,
who are presumed to have drowned.
Pressure mounts over ghost boats
Natalie O'Brien
September 11, 2011
Struggling ... people cling to the wreckage of their boat
after it smashed against the Christmas Island coast.
A DISTRESS call giving out the co-ordinates of a
stricken boat carrying 105 Hazaras seeking asylum, who are now presumed
to have drowned, was received by Australian Customs and Border
Protection officials but the agency has never publicly revealed the
details.
Advice that the vessel was in distress and its position
in seas between Indonesia and Australia on October 3, 2009, was passed
by the agency to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which called
in the Indonesian search and rescue agency to take over the search.
But the boat has never been found and those on board have
not been heard from since, despite the Home Affairs Minister, Brendan
O'Connor, having later said that ''subsequent credible information''
showed the boat's difficulties had been resolved.
Customs has never revealed whether the distress call came
from the stricken vessel or from another source. Shortly after the boat
disappeared, frantic Afghan community members in Australia made
inquiries with the Department of Immigration and Customs and Border
Protection, but were told nothing about the fate of the boat.
Questions in Parliament in May, which have only just been
answered, reveal it was not until a story about the missing boat was
published three months later, on January 18, 2010, that Customs and
Border Protection ''reviewed its information holdings'' and found the
data.
Within two days of the story appearing, Mr O'Connor had
been briefed. But still, the families were told nothing. The opposition
spokesman for justice, customs and border protection, Michael Keenan,
said ''these are grave allegations about a minister misleading about
what the government knew and when they knew it. A possible tragedy of
this magnitude demands the fullest possible account of events.
''I urge Minister O'Connor to use the Parliament this
week to provide that account and to clarify the discrepancies in the
comments the government have already made on this matter. If he doesn't
take up that opportunity then we will look at ways that the Parliament
can make the government account for everything it knows."
The boat is one of eight believed to have sunk between
Indonesia, Malaysia and Australia in the past 2½ years. The most recent
vanished on November 14 last year with 97 on board after leaving a port
near Jakarta. It is believed many more have gone missing and one may
have disappeared just before the SIEV 221 smashed into rocks on
Christmas Island last December, killing 50.
An Iranian woman who lost five relatives in the tragedy
will tell the West Australian Coroner's Court next week that when she
inquired about the approaching boat Christmas Island detention centre
staff asked which boat she was talking about - the one the Navy had
detected or another that had gone missing.
Information about the 105 missing Afghan Hazaras, a
Persian-speaking ethnic group who live mainly in the central region of
Afghanistan, only came to light after the opposition asked in Parliament
what the government knew about each of the missing eight boats.
The families of the missing Hazaras have long questioned
how the boat could have vanished without trace, with two governments
aware of its existence. They had no idea the government had such
specific information about its distress.
Afghan community spokesman Hassan Ghulam, has called on
the government to release details of the distress call, who made it and
any other information available.
Mr Ghulam said relatives last received calls from those
aboard the boat saying that they were in international waters between
Java and Australia.
''The last call we know about was one of the passengers
saying we can see the Australian forces coming towards us. We are going
to throw our mobiles overboard,'' he said.
Mr Ghulam said the government needed to answer many
questions, including whether it had any satellite or radar images of the
boat.
He also wanted to know whether the navy saw them, and if
so, why did they not rescue them. The families of the missing deserved
to know what happened, he said.
''We are not blaming the authorities. People know they
are risking their lives when they get on these boats,'' he said. ''If
they have drowned, then we can have a funeral and get on with things.''
Do you know more?n.obrien@fairfaxmedia.com.au
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/pressure-mounts-over-ghost-boats-20110910-1k30r.html#ixzz1Xa8ChSFi
Border patrol failed to release
details of a distress call from a boat
carrying 105 asylum seekers,
who are presumed to have drowned.
Pressure mounts over ghost boats
Natalie O'Brien
September 11, 2011
Struggling ... people cling to the wreckage of their boat
after it smashed against the Christmas Island coast.
A DISTRESS call giving out the co-ordinates of a
stricken boat carrying 105 Hazaras seeking asylum, who are now presumed
to have drowned, was received by Australian Customs and Border
Protection officials but the agency has never publicly revealed the
details.
Advice that the vessel was in distress and its position
in seas between Indonesia and Australia on October 3, 2009, was passed
by the agency to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which called
in the Indonesian search and rescue agency to take over the search.
But the boat has never been found and those on board have
not been heard from since, despite the Home Affairs Minister, Brendan
O'Connor, having later said that ''subsequent credible information''
showed the boat's difficulties had been resolved.
Customs has never revealed whether the distress call came
from the stricken vessel or from another source. Shortly after the boat
disappeared, frantic Afghan community members in Australia made
inquiries with the Department of Immigration and Customs and Border
Protection, but were told nothing about the fate of the boat.
Questions in Parliament in May, which have only just been
answered, reveal it was not until a story about the missing boat was
published three months later, on January 18, 2010, that Customs and
Border Protection ''reviewed its information holdings'' and found the
data.
Within two days of the story appearing, Mr O'Connor had
been briefed. But still, the families were told nothing. The opposition
spokesman for justice, customs and border protection, Michael Keenan,
said ''these are grave allegations about a minister misleading about
what the government knew and when they knew it. A possible tragedy of
this magnitude demands the fullest possible account of events.
''I urge Minister O'Connor to use the Parliament this
week to provide that account and to clarify the discrepancies in the
comments the government have already made on this matter. If he doesn't
take up that opportunity then we will look at ways that the Parliament
can make the government account for everything it knows."
The boat is one of eight believed to have sunk between
Indonesia, Malaysia and Australia in the past 2½ years. The most recent
vanished on November 14 last year with 97 on board after leaving a port
near Jakarta. It is believed many more have gone missing and one may
have disappeared just before the SIEV 221 smashed into rocks on
Christmas Island last December, killing 50.
An Iranian woman who lost five relatives in the tragedy
will tell the West Australian Coroner's Court next week that when she
inquired about the approaching boat Christmas Island detention centre
staff asked which boat she was talking about - the one the Navy had
detected or another that had gone missing.
Information about the 105 missing Afghan Hazaras, a
Persian-speaking ethnic group who live mainly in the central region of
Afghanistan, only came to light after the opposition asked in Parliament
what the government knew about each of the missing eight boats.
The families of the missing Hazaras have long questioned
how the boat could have vanished without trace, with two governments
aware of its existence. They had no idea the government had such
specific information about its distress.
Afghan community spokesman Hassan Ghulam, has called on
the government to release details of the distress call, who made it and
any other information available.
Mr Ghulam said relatives last received calls from those
aboard the boat saying that they were in international waters between
Java and Australia.
''The last call we know about was one of the passengers
saying we can see the Australian forces coming towards us. We are going
to throw our mobiles overboard,'' he said.
Mr Ghulam said the government needed to answer many
questions, including whether it had any satellite or radar images of the
boat.
He also wanted to know whether the navy saw them, and if
so, why did they not rescue them. The families of the missing deserved
to know what happened, he said.
''We are not blaming the authorities. People know they
are risking their lives when they get on these boats,'' he said. ''If
they have drowned, then we can have a funeral and get on with things.''
Do you know more?n.obrien@fairfaxmedia.com.au
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/pressure-mounts-over-ghost-boats-20110910-1k30r.html#ixzz1Xa8ChSFi
true lilly wrote:Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet
has canvassed the option of
abandoning the Malaysian solution
and a return to onshore processing.
Wow...
what a difference some hours make...
TICK, TICK, TICK...true lilly wrote:Labor won't sink Malaysian solution
September 10, 2011 2:53PM
AAP
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen
has refused to confirm reports
the Government will try to refloat
its Malaysian solution.
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Christmas Island: 100th asylum boat arrives for Gillard
Cabinet all at sea on refugee solution
Samantha Maiden
From:Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011 12:00AM
Labor leaders Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard and Greg Combet. The Daily Telegraph
JULIA Gillard's Cabinet is divided over refugees and has canvassed
the option of abandoning the Malaysian solution and a return to onshore
processing.
But the Prime Minister is expected to prevail at a special meeting
of Cabinet tomorrow and stare down rebels in the ALP and Greens leader
Bob Brown.
Caucus tensions are rising as former PM Kevin Rudd continues to build his profile.
Mr Rudd's supporters have warned Labor colleagues that voters will "wipe
us off the planet" unless there is a change in leadership before the
next election.
A small group of backers in the ALP caucus is
urging colleagues to consider a back-to-the-future leadership ticket
before the next election with Defence Minister Stephen Smith also being
touted.
"The only way we are going to come out of this is to get Kevin back," a Labor MP said.
Related Coverage
- Comment: Rudd joins smile-high club again
- Canberra: Parliament staff complain of bullying
The new laws follow the High Court's ruling that the Malaysian solution people-swap was unlawful.
- Labor won't sink Malaysian solution Herald Sun, 10 hours ago
- Gillard seeks action as smugglers close in The Australian, 1 day ago
- Go offshore but where? The Australian, 2 days ago
- Ruddock rues the trashing of Nauru The Australian, 2 days ago
- Coalition's plan to solve refugee impasse The Australian, 2 days ago
Desperate to secure the support of Tony Abbott
for the reforms in Parliament, the Prime Minister will outline
a deal that will allow the Coalition to pursue Nauru as a future option
and reactivate Labor's preferred regional solution, including Malaysia.
Two senior ministers have told the Sunday Herald Sun that
the High Court ruling prompted Cabinet discussions over
whether the opportunity had arisen to dump offshore processing.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen even outlined the option in Cabinet,
but then explained why it was not an acceptable or effective method of
protecting the nation's borders.
Nauru was dismissed as an option because people smugglers knew
most asylum seekers ended up in Australia anyway and it was no longer
a deterrent.
The Gillard Government released costings yesterday suggesting the
Coalition's plan to reopen Nauru would cost $1 billion over four years.
"We know Nauru is not effective," Mr Bowen said.
"It's also a very expensive option."
There is still no guarantee the Coalition will support the new laws, a
prospect Labor has warned could result in up to 7000 asylum seekers
a year trying toreach Australia.
Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison said he was not going to be lectured
by the Gillard Government about cost blowouts.
"The Coalition is willing to work with the Government if they wish to make
changes to the Act to put the issue of offshore processing beyond legal
doubt," he said. "But we've made no secret of our position on Malaysia."
According to senior ministers, long-standing concerns were
expressed in Cabinet over offshore processing.
The ALP platform clearly says
refugees should have their claims processed in Australia.
Sources said the discussions were respectful and part of a wide-ranging
conversation of all options, rather than a direct challenge to the PM's
authority.
Left faction convener Doug Cameron, who once complained
the ALP caucus had become political zombies too scared to speak their
minds, said the Malaysian solution was no solution at all.
"We should stick to the party platform," he said.
"That's onshore processing. It's the humane thing to do."
Northern Territory Senator Trish Crossin said:
"I don't think we should compromise on human rights as a first resort."
WA Labor MP Melissa Parke said she would argue strongly
against offshore processing.
ALP sources also suggested some Labor MPs may abstain from any vote.
They would face expulsion from the party
if they crossed the floor to vote with the Greens.
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true lilly wrote:End 'lawfare' by ditching UN policies
PAUL SHEEHAN
A disconnect has grown between
the will of the people and
the legal activists who wage ''lawfare'' -
the practice of using the courts
to achieve policies rejected at the ballot box.
52
...so much news lately, that examples this opinion
(that came after, I posted the same opinion
I don't know where to begin...probably should have
more than 31/2 hours sleep, and finished my first
coffee before it went cold, prior to attempting to
to put it together...ah but why bother at all...when
anyone who can't see it for themselves by now, is
probably 'permanently blind', or part of that most
TRAITOROUS CABAL.
That would be nice,ditching UN policy,that was heavily lobbied by the US,to pass a law for the foundation of the UN...know what that was.The Criminalization of Marijuana internationally...Now you know why the Pollies are very hesitant to repeal it,one day,someone of backbone will come along...
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true lilly Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:53 pm
true lilly wrote:Let's do a word-association test.
When I say
"billionaire's private island" and "$7900 a night",
what sort of picture comes to mind?
However wild your imagination,
I'd stake the personal fortunes of Richard Branson
and Brett Godfrey that your mental snapshots
look nothing like Makepeace Island.
Branson's private island
Makepeace Island,
Richard Branson's private island
in the Noosa River is now up for rent.
In July, the cashed-up cohorts
opened their heart-shaped island
on the Noosa River to the public.
With a minimum of eight people
or a maximum party of 22
the island and its 11-room retreat is yours for a night.
The cost includes staff, chef and everything you can eat; alcohol is extra.
Makepeace Island is one of Australia's
most expensive single-ticket accommodations.
Once called Pig Island, the 10-hectare patch of gum trees and mangroves
sits in the broad, estuarine waters of the Noosa River.
The island has been occupied by a reclusive old woman
named "Shotgun Hannah" Makepeace, coteries of hippies and an artist.
Now CAREFULLY Read the
'The NEWS Behind The NEWS' Thread,
of "tintin/CRUISE"
from (at least), last night, on,
To SEE HIM STACKING UP These
SAME CODE KEYS
...and, more:
UPDATING "their" NEXT PLOT!
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3092
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3093
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3094
And in a "dixie d" LINK at the last link:
"A non-specialist
would not have been able
to understand
all the data,
the Japanese
ministry of transport
was quoted as saying,
as much of it
was presented
in numerical form."
true lilly wrote:Obama pays tribute to Australia
10:35PM
Phillip Hudson,
BARACK Obama thanks Australia
for its steadfast and heartfelt support
on the 10th anniversary of the
September 11 terror attacks.
Full text:Obama's letter of thanks to Australia
September 11 anniversary:
Barack Obama writes letter of thanks
to Julia Gillard
Barack Obama
From: No Source
September 11, 2011
7:12PM
Barack Obama thanks Australia
for its enduring support on September 11
and the decade since. AFP
THE following text is a letter
from US President Barack Obama
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard
expressing America's appreciation
for Australia's support on September 11
and the decade since.
Dear Prime Minister,
As we approach the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks,
I want to take this opportunity to express our enduring appreciation
for the close partnership and support we have received from Australia
on that fateful day and in the decade since.
Australia's support on September 11, 2001, and in the days after was extraordinary.
Prime Minister Howard was in Washington on September 11,
preparing to address a Joint Session of Congress on the occasion of
the 50th anniversary of our security alliance.
While his address had to be postponed, his heartfelt words of support and sympathy
on that day, and in the days and weeks that followed, eloquently described the depth
of the United States-Australian partnership.
Australia's quick declaration that these attacks were an assault on the values
and freedoms shared by our two countries comforted us; your invocation of
Article IV of the ANZUS Treaty strengthened our resolve to prevail over this menace.
Americans were moved by the expressions of sympathy from so many Australians citizens, and we shared your grief at the loss of 11 Australians in the September 11 attacks.
In the decade since the attacks, we have had no more steadfast partner than Australia
in our effort to defeat terrorists in Afghanistan, in Bali, in the Middle East, and in
Southeast Asia.
Australia's robust cooperation in these efforts has made a tremendous contribution
to achieving the alliance goals we share, and has won the lasting affection and
gratitude of Americans.
As the United States and Australia stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can to work with you to deepen that partnership, to ensure the security of our nations and our citizens, not
and in the future.
Related Coverage
Freedom = vigilance Courier Mail, 1 hour ago
Obama pays tribute to Australia Herald Sun, 11 minutes ago
Obama: US not waiver in terror fight The Daily Telegraph, 20 minutes ago
Dark day transformed two nations The Australian, 1 day ago
Access anxiety The Australian, 4 day ago
When I saw,
"From: No Source"
(besides the 'need' to 'twice add',
Julia Gillard's name, when it was not there),
I could tell there was going to be something,
in, This, Very Important, Very Official, HISTORIC
Letter, that no one dare put their name to.
Like that LAST LINE "typo", of "Valley Girl Speak",
"I assure you...NOT!...and in the future. ..."
As the United States and Australia
stand on the cusp of our alliance's seventh decade,
I assure you I will continue to do everything I can
to work with you to deepen that partnership,
to ensure the security of our nations
and our citizens, not
and in the future.
And as anyone who's studied
"tintin's" CODE SPEAK knows, CHANGING JUST ONE,
little letter, MAKES A WHOLE MESS of Difference.
What IS, becomes, what IS BEING SAID.
Also, why did the AFP
(Agence France-Presse, a news agency),
CROP OUT, "SEAL of" and "STATES",
and put it's name to the deed?
But Google, "afp" or "AFP" (*See below.),
and though I'm searching from Australia and
other country's may get different results,
it's all that's offered, in the order it's offered,
that also, 'says' a lot, though as usual, I've
had to remove the code that makes the cached
likes, 'live', and some other code that 'insists on'
showing here, and makes what Google shows,
virtually illegible.
And yes, there is much more besides, 'said' in this strangely presented,
strangely worded, MAJOR, LEADING REPORT, in Murdoch's HERALD SUN,
that it's not right to try to explain it all to the willingly deceived, and
'those who know', already know.
_________________________________
*Searches related to AFP
- AFP Homepage - Australian Federal Police
www.afp.gov.au/ - Cached
The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is a progressive and multi-faceted law enforcement organisation taking a strong lead in the fight against 21st century crime.►
National Police Checks
www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks/nati...
The Australian Federal Police ...
Current vacancies
www.afp.gov.au/.../current-vacancies...
A career with the AFP can take ...
Jobs@AFP
www.afp.gov.au/jobs.aspx
A career with the AFP can take ...Contact
www.afp.gov.au/contact.aspx
Emergency contact, Request ...
Police/Criminal history checks
www.afp.gov.au/.../police-checks.asp...
We provide assistance under the ...
Media centre
www.afp.gov.au/media-centre.aspx
Multimedia and news items, The ...- RACGP | AFP Home
www.racgp.org.au/afp - Cached
2009
6 days ago – Australian Family Physician is the official journal of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners.- AFP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFP - Cached
AFP. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search. Look up AFP in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. AFP may refer to: Contents. 1 Media; 2 ...- Apple Filing Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol - Cached
The Apple Filing Protocol(AFP) is a network protocol that offers file ...- Agence France-Presse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse - Cached
Agence France-Presse (AFP) is a French news agency, the oldest one in the ...
Show more results from wikipedia.org- AFP.com - International News, Photos, Videos, Graphics, World
www.afp.com/afpcom/en/ - Cached
STOCKHOLM (AFP)
- Swedish police in the southwestern city of Gothenburg have arrested
four people suspected of preparing a terror attack, Swedish media ...- AFP
news.smh.com.au/action/displayCopyrightNotice?...AFP - Cached
AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or ... AFP news material may not be stored in whole or in part in any electronic ...- Australian Federal Police Association
www.afpa.org.au/ - Cached
2 Sep 2011 – The Australian Federal Police Association represents the professional, industrial and social interests of all employees of the Australian Federal ...- AFP embracing Gov 2.0 - social media, Australian Federal Police ...
www.computerworld.com.au/article/399680/afp_embracing_gov_2_0/
6 days ago – National crime fighting agency, the Australian Federal Police, is discovering openness and transparency and policing aren't mutually exclusive.- Absolute Fitness Professionals
www.afp.com.au/ - Cached
Absolute Fitness Professionals. About Us; Services. Biosignature Modulation · Exercise Physiology · Personal Training · Sports Conditioning · Rehabilitation ...
afp photos
afp wiki
afp police check
afp form
afp press
afp jobs
afp media
afp clearance
And now, in this HERALD SUN Update,
doesn't THE IMAGE CHOSEN to go "with" THE WORDS CHOSEN,
combine to "TELL A DIFFERENT STORY"...
...seems Mrs. Obama is doing all she can, to stop herself from,
OPENLY CACKLING! Showing a face not unlike, THE IMAGE CHOSEN
to go with the Update below it, on Julia Gillard's position...
Gillard faces week of tough tests
Phillip Hudson
PM in crucial week as she moves
to revive the Malaysian solution,
introduce carbon tax legislation
and stare down leadership talk.
(JUST NOW CHANGED TO:
JULIA Gillard set to try and revive
the Malaysian solution, introduce
carbon tax legislation and battle
more negative poll results.)
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Hunger strike: Desperate kids plead for freedom
true lilly wrote:Well, someone didn't like that last post...yet another
major hack attack, of denying internet service to all 3 computers running
in this house, while, VIA THE INTERNET, THAT WAS CONNECTED AND RUNNING,
all 3 computers were being 'run through'. The timing worked for me though...and
showed those who need to know, what they need to know...those that are trusted,
are not to be trusted. And yet again, I was proven to know, when I needed to know,
what I couldn't know, without trusting the revealing truth of God's Word.
...and while we were being live hacked, just look at what "tintin" was busy doing:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3095
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3096
...oh he couldn't even try to pretend to be original this time,
because time is against 'them',
time belongs to God, not them or me or any man.
Whoever lives or dies, in the death throws of this worldly age,
God's plan will play out to do His will. Part of which is sifting and sorting.
...funny, just like 'Billy Ruben', when he's RUNNING SCARED,
that's what he lies, those he's scared of, are doing.
Ohh, O.K., just a little teaser, of what "tintin's" panic filled posts contain...
(plus some extra connectors), but the rest of the work is up to 'those who know'...
...sonny... ...a little ray of sunshine... .................................................
LANA (ANAL) link to PLENTY.
We can link LANA, ANAL and PLENTY to SHIT.
PLENTY of SHIT
home burnt down
Williams is Lana
...WILLIAMS final.tintin wrote:Israel, Hamlet and Tanzania. III
Quote:
The ISLAND has the shape of a HEART.
Originally Posted by cori
Okay, look at this
Tintin:
Winehouse, btw., also links to Winnenden
Win Win Win Win Win.....
but here is Tom Cruise:
Tom Cruise
4th of july = 2+2 july
Married to
I am somewhat sure, that Holmes is originally a name from Norway.
it pops up as british name allover the place, but that can't be.
here is the interesting Wiki explaination
A small island.... (Holm)
UTOYA ... perfect match, probably the most typical 'small island' there is
the amok island has the shape of a HEART!!
Lena... Set Alight... Telenor Arena /Terror Oslo
"I heart you"
about 90 teenagers shot on the little heart island
The whole thing is unreal, almost absurd.
Running scared
RUNNING SCARED wins the HEART song contest
and they were RUNNING SCARED on the HEART Island.
That's ... reversed.
(31 and 13, the BLOODLINE link)
(11 SEPTEMBER = 117) BIRDS attack on 911.
MAKEPEACE ISLAND, NOOSA RIVER, AUSTRALIA
MAKEPEACE ISLAND, NOOSA RIVER, AUSTRALIA...and...'cori' said,
"UTOYA ... perfect match, probably the most typical 'small island' there is
the amok island has the shape of a HEART!!"
My Teddy Bear was named Sonny,dixie d wrote: 11-09-2011, 12:57 PM #30943
I noticed this article in the News...
UK poppy-growing program kept hush-hush
I just wondered if there might be a link to Hush Puppies
Quote:
Wolverine Wroldwide
Hush Puppies is an international brand of contemporary, casual
footwear for men, women and children. The shoes have been described as
"the classic American brushed-suede shoes with the lightweight crepe
sole".[1] A division of Wolverine Worldwide, Hush Puppies is headquartered in Rockford, Michigan.
Quote:
Plush Toys
In addition, the Hush Puppies name is licensed for non-footwear fashion categories, including clothing, eyewear and plush toys.
Quote:
Teddy Bear
In 1903 Richard Steiff designed a soft bear that differed from
earlier traditional rag dolls because it was made of plush furlike
fabric.[1] At the same time in the USA, Morris Michtom created the first
teddy bear, after being inspired by a drawing of Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
with a bear cub.[2] The character Peter Rabbit from English author
Beatrix Potter was the first stuffed toy to be patented, in 1903.
Last edited by dixie d; 11-09-2011 at 01:04 PM.
my R.R. was named Teddy,
my R.R.X was named Bear,
and my Deerhound's named Poppy...and...
...I had to change my name to SUZY RAE LAVREK,
from Vera HOCEVAR, by deed poll, when I worked for Grosby's...
Pacific Brands is a major Australian company marketing Berlei, Bonds,
Clarks (children's), Dunlop, Everlast, Grosby, Holeproof, Hush Puppies, King Gee,...
and...
...and this post:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1058501316&postcount=1320
contains much more than:
We speak to John Hocevar,
founder of Students for a Free Tibet,
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/1...rs_of_students
BELGRADE, 23. 03. 2008.
Catholic Archbishop of Belgrade
Stanislav Hočevar
who in May of 2001...
Participants from Serbia:
Hocevar Stanislav -Belgrade Archbishop
http://www.b92.net/trr/eng/participants.html
...and the 3 Lead Image/Stories, in order,
at The HERALD SUN Now...
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Sam Stosur
is playing her toughest match
against Serena Williams in US Open final.
Picture: Getty Image
Read More
Brett Ratten would have been excused for
momentarily pondering the terrible thought
even his own players were conspiring against him,
writes Mike Sheahan.
Picture: Michael Klein
Read More
Harry Kewell kicks off his new life in Melbourne
and a spectacular new era for the A-League today.
Picture: Herald Sun
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