No..!!!, No!!!. No!!! Amy Whinehouse Becomes The Latest 27 Clubber...!!!

el kabong wrote:yes, a tragedy, yet did you not see this coming?

Actions>Consequences

Cause>Effect



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kjh9lQXLWk

............I first encountered radical relativism in a classroom in the early 70s, when I was showing pictures and photographs of violence. Among the pictures was one of a soldier kicking a little boy to death. One of the young women in the class argued strongly that we had no right to make a value judgment about the soldier's act. After much time in discussion, she finally allowed that the soldier's act might have been wrong--but NOT because the boy was suffering. Rather, her reason was that the soldier "might have enjoyed the boy's company if he had got to know him." She allowed that from the boy's point of view things probably looked different. But the only judgment she would make on the soldier was on the basis of the pleasure he might have deprived himself of. There is no GOOD; there is only feeling good. The pleasure principle. Good and evil depend on how you happen to feel. Note the phrase "Happen to feel."..........The current dismissal of Reason is depressing, as the results of such a dismissal were foretold during the eighteenth century. Many philosophers, such as Thomas Jefferson, still firmly declared that the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were rights precisely they came from Nature and Nature's God. The great philosopher Immanuel Kant constructed a moral system of universal validity based, not upon revelation, but upon reason. But some Enlightenment writers emphasized the human origin of human knowledge, law, and morality. The implications of this were seen, and shown, quite clearly buy none other than the Marquis de Sade, a brilliant writer as well as the originator of sadism. Sade took relativist assumptions to their logical extreme. If there are no moral absolutes, then there are no moral absolutes. If you prefer having a good dinner at a restaurant to raping and killing children, that is your prerogative, fine, and I don't judge you, but if I prefer raping and murdering children, what grounds do you have for judging me? The Enlightenment philosophers fell over one another disowning Sade, particularly since he practiced much of what he preached, but he was dead right. If there are no absolutes there are no absolutes...............One Relativist reply is: don't worry. Societies make social contracts that prevent fundamental evils. Oh? Says who? What authority determines what these fundamental evils are? Or, don't worry: no society would form values allowing the raping and murdering of babies. Oh? Such societies have existed and do exist. Absent inherent, absolute values, who indeed is to say what is what is right? Sixty years ago, German society supported Hitler, and there are still a lot of Russians who honor Stalin. Human nature is basically good. Says who? Say the victims of Timothy McVeigh? Of Hitler, or Pol Pot, or Stalin, or Genghis Khan, or of holy inquisitions and holy wars? Relativists may object to torturing babies or exterminating Jews, but on what basis? Because they happen to feel that it isn't nice? You must not bomb synagogues? Says who? You must not discriminate against African-Americans. Says who? You must not legislate what a woman may do with her body. Says who? Every moral statement a Relativist makes, whether others agree with it or not, falls when confronted with the simple question, says who? "Says I" is the only ultimate response a Relativist can make. And the reply to that is pretty quick: "So what?".........

el kabong wrote:

End of the day Amy made a very small splash in the pond and never reached her true potential, which probably would have been very amazing. Same for Jimmy, Janis etc........

el kabong wrote:No doubt she was highly talented. They don't pass out Emmys on the street corners and she got 5 for her second album.

As an Atheist you may 'feel' that humans are merely 'smart animals', not 'special' Beings touched by the Finger of God.

Billy Ruben wrote:

el kabong wrote:No doubt she was highly talented. They don't pass out Emmys on the street corners and she got 5 for her second album.

As an Atheist you may 'feel' that humans are merely 'smart animals', not 'special' Beings touched by the Finger of God.

not 'special' Beings touched by the Finger of God.

to me,all living things have the "current" (life-force) going through them.I have seen animals display far more emotive qualities than humans do.I'm not arrogant to say we are the premiere life-form on this planet,more a multitude of chess pieces on some infernal chess-board,playing out the whims and fancies,of a bi-polar,schizoid deity...

Ok,we are really connected...no way.We are alien minded to this planet.Funny,the animals that are seen as lower case to us as beings,yet we have no connection to Earth,yet,animals can read the bio-rhythms and desert an area before an Earthquake or Flood can decimate the area.We,without scientific measuring equipment...die.

To me,Satan had his joke and won,long ago...we humans,act like animals.I mean,if we don't get our own way,we kill,like True Lilly wants to everytime I troll or spam her threads.Or for example,you paint your nemisis as a child molester,hoping some yokel local will bash foe of Lilly....to death,or at least a bloody pulp.

Where animal friends I have and know,just want love,attention and someone to spend time with.They're much more giving than humans,except if your name is Biblegirl or Antiem...

No,love my cats,a chook,yabby and two children...the rest can be Beezlebubbed...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Where animal friends I have and know,just want love,attention and someone to spend time with.They're much more giving than humans,except if your name is Biblegirl or Antiem...

No,love my cats,a chook,yabby and two children...the rest can be Beezlebubbed...

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:

Billy Ruben wrote:
Where animal friends I have and know,just want love,attention and someone to spend time with.They're much more giving than humans,except if your name is Biblegirl or Antiem...

No,love my cats,a chook,yabby and two children...the rest can be Beezlebubbed...

Don't Be Fooled By Your Anthropomorphism Of The Furry Freinds...

If Cats Wern't Such Minature Versions Of Lions,

I Think They Would See You As Supper,

Or A Tasty Snack...!!!

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:

Billy Ruben wrote:
Where animal friends I have and know,just want love,attention and someone to spend time with.They're much more giving than humans,except if your name is Biblegirl or Antiem...

No,love my cats,a chook,yabby and two children...the rest can be Beezlebubbed...

Don't Be Fooled By Your Anthropomorphism Of The Furry Freinds...

If Cats Wern't Such Minature Versions Of Lions,

I Think They Would See You As Supper,

Or A Tasty Snack...!!!