IAAAIA outed.Writes poems about Icke.

*Kia* wrote:Hahahaha lol's, 100+ poems to Icke??

I Think WANNABE Michael's completely lost the plot!



Another WANNABE ICKE dopey fluff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOcyYyxqN_g

Billy Ruben Wrote;
could un-cover more disturbing aspects of Mikeys psyche.Infinite Love includes forgiveness,why bag his guru?He only posted for 4 months before banning,still whining about something,two years ago?...should've called it Infinite Hate Forums,Finite Love

*Kia* wrote:

Billy Ruben Wrote;
could un-cover more disturbing aspects of Mikeys psyche.Infinite Love includes forgiveness,why bag his guru?He only posted for 4 months before banning,still whining about something,two years ago?...should've called it Infinite Hate Forums,Finite Love

Spot on the dot ha!

You mean this poem Mr Ruben??



Mr Dearest Dave Icke
.....

In dark corners my dreams devour
My greatest visions of world wide power
In love and folly, in all my shite
To be like you, I know is right
I hear your wisdom, you set me free
You opened my mind for me to see
Come caress my precious blue pen
For tomorrow you know I shall come again
My hearts on fire for you it yearns
Fiercely hot which lustily burns
My days are long with out you near
I live my life in tension and fear
I love you....... and I know in time
You'll Come to love me and you will be mine
Arrest my heart my dearest Icke

Yours forever, forever Mike




just another, cant resist hehehe...........

A lonely brain cell he has but one
Due to drugs the rest have gone
He broods in bouts of low depression
Blaming Icke for his drugs obsession
Beware his blue pen writes fukking shit
Way down in ozzy, in his emotional pit.

Billy Ruben wrote:...to explain the pot dealing issue.The problem that I had,with Boots,is using the VM (Visiting Message) and PM (Private Message) for setting up the mailing of pot.at the David Icke Forum.He had my email,I checked regularly.I felt slightly manipulated by him,to do it,but sympathised with the difficulties at times to purchase it.I spent $60-70 per purchase extra,just on fuel to drive the round trip of 360-400kms to do so,without asking him for petrol money.He paid.$100 per quart and 10 for packaging,it was professionally done too.But things got scarce,and waited a month,before I sough an overseas alternative,stupid Boots meanwhile was stabbing me in the back,cause of Limelady,I told her to shove it,in a very elegant way,take me off her friends list,sick of the games,the trouble she caused me with my partner,she kept pushing for photos and stuff,asking for info,being a stickybeak basically.I had a massive argument with my partner,she thought somethings was going on,...yadda,yadda,yadda...it was easier to tell her to piss of in the end.Either that,or get used to living in the car again,...and you know what,nothing was going on,did’nt once flirt with Limelady,I asked her to cool it,cause partner was going to string me up...I’m pretty open,partner read most of my Pm’s,and just had to choose,you want your forum friendship,or the woman that feeds and gives you children,Limey could never see the troubler she caused me,but starting to re-evaluate,maybe she did,when you’re caught up emotionally in a situation,clarity is in short reserves,as opposed to one who could’nt give a shit.Anyway,Boots got ripped off $50 bucks,and been bitching ever since,many people turned on me,but never heard my story,my stance is,if you don’t know me by now,to see the bullshit of others,tough luck,it’s forum life,love yourself in the now,like I once loved you.

See,you got emotions too...and a cat!!!...Well,I just like you whole lot better for that...hope I have'nt spoiled your riling... Mucking about
Kallisti...I told one lie,at DIF to...To Dark Eternal.Boots was on the phone mouthing off about Blondina1,his new girl,after a bitter divorce split with his Texan wife....Blondina1 was umming and arring about commitment and moving...NONE of which was interesting,nor I wanted to know.
He's like an old lady,Boots,spreading rumours and lies about his own friends...so close to Limelady...yeah,booties,that's why she chose me over you to look after her galah(native bird)...but LL,fucked things with my missus...could'nt even go on DIF for about 6 weeks...big fight,you see...so she lost out.
...While Boots's wife had left him minding their new-borne daughter,in the hands of this derelict alcoholic,Boots rather attend talking drugs on the phone,than attend his screaming crying daughter,who cried for nearly 3 hours in the background...even my missus was saying get off the phone,I can hear that from here...He just kept fucking rambling...
...Anyway,I got in the shit,taking on this MysticMolly,got points for derailing the thread,and in off topic banter to DE(who gave me the points),I mentioned should'nt you be getting snow shoes,(Norway,being home of Blondina1
...much better than Austin Texas...cold climate,snow,hot blonde,log cabin and fire,what to do for 6 months of the year...oh,I know...F*ck.
...The only thing DE said,"Was it boots who spilled the sauce?"...I acted taken aback...and replied,no,I just put it together,with VM's(visitor messages)...Bullshit,I was'nt interested in the phone call,nor did I read this Vm's,there was none,and if there was,I probably did'nt have access,to that persons profile...So,yeah,I did lie once,hated doing it too,even though I favour not one of them.

...I know Limelady gave my picture up...cause that very hour,Boots had a whole different attitude...and that's why I'm still a member there at DIF,cause soon as I see that Picture surface..I'm hitting them with a lawsuit,if they don't sell her out to me.Simple really.
See Kallisti,give a little to me,you get a whole lot more back...enjoy.
Oh,Limey looks like cousin It from the Adam's family...I just look like a psychopath...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?tab=visitor_messaging&u=11002&page=2#visitor_messaging

...I had to bury Lisa last week,I made a tomb,in the soil,she got my favourite pillow and cover to rest on,along with her home-made quilt.I cried in pain for a month,as she slowly withered away,and still not over it....here's one of the last photos of us,together,as it should've been,much longer...it's the first time...I really experienced pain,with death,she was much more to me,than I even realised,like loosing your best friend,I could'nt say child,cause I'd loose my mind,fragile after all,it turns out...Jase
I feel empty,lost,and all to fragile...almost human,love to you Antiem,Jason...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?tab=visitor_messaging&u=26645&page=2#visitor_messaging

I put her to rest,on the 25th May,slowly getting over the nashings of teeth.She was cheated,lived till four years old,much loved by the whole family.There was beauty and love with her,much more profound than most humans I've met.I did'nt want to let go,I had to sub-cutenous feed her water,through the skin,cause her kidneys collapsed.Mouth ulcerated......ahhhh!,that'll do,Thankyou,for being so kind with what you wrote,soon,I'll prowl the alleys and pounds,for another ,just not right now.I was deeply attached to her.
When Pudden died,I become a drug-addict soon after.So,I got to watch myself for the next couple of months,for indulgences,but it won't be drugs.6am,and still have'nt gone to sleep.I'll try soon,thankyou,very much.Cats and I,have a close relationship,it's like loosing a best friend,brother or sister...I've never felt this way,ever.I read a cat psycholgy book a little while a go,Lisa seen me as her surrogate mother
.I had the weirdest feelings of pride and happiness,when I discovered that.Strange,goodnight sir

Tiswas wrote:you live in a FUCKING FORUM, SO LET THIS CURRYMUNCHER GO AND DO SOMETHING interesting offline.

Tiswas wrote:I reckon that IIAIA has a homosexual fixation towards David Icke, I really do and let us face it Icke has that type of appeal to certain people.
IaSomething does not really know haw to create a real cutting edge forum and I hope that his username gets banned in the DIF, I am surprised that Del Monte is wasting precious time with them cos I know he is a busy man and he is a good music man too. At least his music is more inwith the times.
IamSomething reminds me of that bastard Charles Manson who wanted to kill Hollywood real talent because he was nothing and I was glad he gets beaten up in jail.

Tiswas wrote:sO YOU HATE iL FORUM TOO, WELL i WILL FORGIVE YOU FOR ALL THAT CURRYMUNCHER STUFF BUT LET US FACE IT IF i CREATED A FORUM AND TALKED ABOUT IL FORUM TOO MUCH ALL IT DOES IS GIVE FREE PUBLICITY TO THOSE PEOPLE.
The one who posted Scat Porn and so forth was Droike as Ratty and I have told him this but then again that is his MO and his remarks to Winston of Outlaw forum about having sex with his granddad was recieved with an O.K.
The Icke forum is up and running and if I want poetry it is better to read PROPER POETRY FROM THE MASTERS REALLY. Just to let you all know that I am a follower of Icke because he has riled the right people.

know that I am a follower of Icke because he has riled the right people

Boots and thelyran:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118880&page=73
11/06/2010
111/06/2010


________________________________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by thelyran
...this really hurt me,reading this,if that's what elite think-tanks regard as normal,there's got to be a spiritual revolution,or as a species,we are stuffed.

Very disturbing trends,you have a strong stomach Runciter,and now I regard you,as a very serious researcher,regards.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118880&page=73
11/06/2010
111/06/2010


________________________________________


________________________________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by thelyran
...this really hurt me,reading this,if that's what elite think-tanks regard as normal,there's got to be a spiritual revolution,or as a species,we are stuffed.
Very disturbing trends,you have a strong stomach Runciter,and now I regard you,as a very serious researcher,regards.
Boots Quote:


When someone takes things out of context and pushes an agenda. WITHOUT looking into all the facts, then they either have an agenda themselves or are a fool.

There is no question to the premises that the satanic, left hand path occultist...Ring a bell... use children who are prepubescent to extract the energy from them. That energy is used as a drug, just like heroin. It create euphoria. a rush off endorphins. Sick as it is, but that is the way the reptilians work.

Not all reptilian are homosexual and not all reptilians are pedophiles.

Mind control trauma is used by certain factions within "power" groups to break the souls of children, to be used as sex slaves and to do dirty work for the reppies. Yet they are not all homosexuals. That is a fallacy.

The media is pushing the sexualization of young people. Subtlety. MTV is a good example of this and corporate advertising is also.

McDonalds is NOT pushing pedophilia. Only advertising to a niche market. Corporation would sell their soul, even though they dont have one.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...the-false-link

A long cut and paste. But it is worth it to get the FACTS right.

Q: I've heard therapists say that a male adult who sexually abuses a boy isn't necessarily ‘homosexual.' This seems confusing: If he isn't homosexual, then why would he sexually molest boys, instead of girls?This is a very good question, and there are several ways to respond to it. First, we need to clarify our definitions. When discussing sexual abuse and molestation of children, there's often conflict over terminology. One frequently quoted researchers on the topic of homosexuality and child molestation,Gregory Herek, a research psychologist at the University of California, defines pedophilia as "a psychosexual disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners, which may or may not be acted upon." He defines child sexual abuse as "actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent." Not all pedophiles actually molest children, he points out. A pedophile may be attracted to children, but never actually engage in sexual contact with them. Quite often, pedophiles never develop a sexual orientation toward other adults.



Herek points out that child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to "actions," without implying any "particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator." In other words, not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles. Pedophilia can be viewed as a kind of sexual fetish, wherein the person requires the mental image of a child--not necessarily a flesh-and-blood child--to achieve sexual gratification. Rarely does a pedophile experience sexual desire for adults of either gender. They usually don't identify as homosexual-the majority identify as heterosexual, even those who abuse children of the same gender They are sexually aroused by youth, not by gender. In contrast, child molesters often exert power and control over children in an effort to dominate them. They do experience sexual desire for adults, but molest children episodically, for reasons apart from sexual desire, much as rapists enjoy power, violence and controlling their humiliated victims. Indeed, research supports that a child molester isn't any more likely to be homosexual than heterosexual.

In fact, some research shows that for pedophiles, the gender of the child is immaterial. Accessibility is more the factor in who a pedophile abuses. This may explain the high incidence of children molested in church communities and fraternal organizations, where the pedophile may more easily have access to children. In these situations, an adult male is trusted by those around him, including children and their families. Males are often given access to boys to mentor, teach, coach and advise. Therefore, a male pedophile may have easier access to a male child. In trying to make sense of an adult male's sexually abusing a male child, many of us mislabel it as an act of homosexuality, which it isn't.

Feminists have argued for years that rape is not a sex act-it is an act of violence using sex as a weapon. In the same way, a pedophile abusing a child of the same sex is not perpetrating a homosexual act, but an act of violence and exploitation using sexuality. There is a world of difference between these two things, but it requires a subtle understanding of the inner motivation of the abuser.

To call child molestation of a boy by a man "homosexual" or of a girl by a man "heterosexual" is to misunderstand pedophilia. No true pedophile is attracted to adults, so neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality applies. Accordingly, Herek suggests calling men's sexual abuse of boys "male-male molestation" and men's abuse of girls, "male-female molestation."

nterestingly, Anna C. Salter writes, in "Predators, Pedophiles, Rapists and other Sex Offenders", that when a man molests little girls, we call him a "pedophile" and not a "heterosexual." Of course, when a man molests little boys, people say outright, or mutter under their breath, "homosexual. Herek writes that because of our society's aversion to male homosexuality, and the attempts made by some to represent gay men as a danger to "family values," many in our society immediately think of male-male molestation as homosexuality. He compares this with the time when African Americans were often falsely accused of raping white women, and when medieval Jews were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Both are examples of how mainstream society eagerly jumped to conclusions to that justified discrimination and violence against these minorities. Today, gays face the same kind of prejudice. Most recently, we've seen gay men unfairly turned out of the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of this myth that gay men are likely to be child molesters. Keeping gays out of scouting won't protect boys from pedophiles.

In reality, abuse of boys by gay pedophiles is rare, and the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still. Nicholas Groth is a noted authority on this topic. In a 1982 study by Grot, he asks, "Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children, and are pre-adolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual." Herek writes, similarly, that abuse of boys by gay men is rare; and that the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still.
The topic of female-female molestation continues to be largely ignored. There are few books on female sex offenders, particularly about mothers sexually abusing their daughters. I can find only one book on mothers who sexually abuse their sons by Hani Miletski, M.S.W., entitled, "Mother-Son Incest: The Unthinkable Taboo." Unthinkable is an appropriate word-so much so that there is nothing else in the literature on this topic, even though female pedophiles and female child molesters certainly exist.
We know so much more than we did historically and yet have a long way to go. We can understand child sexual abuse further when people's bias and prejudice are removed and the evidence is empirical and scientific.


If you think you are going to use your "left hand path " on me. It wont work. The karma will come back on you ten fold.


Sod off back to the Sodlike forum..Billy Ruben...hahahhahahaha. Geezz you are so false.

Fool....


When someone takes things out of context and pushes an agenda. WITHOUT looking into all the facts, then they either have an agenda themselves or are a fool.

There is no question to the premises that the satanic, left hand path occultist...Ring a bell... use children who are prepubescent to extract the energy from them. That energy is used as a drug, just like heroin. It create euphoria. a rush off endorphins. Sick as it is, but that is the way the reptilians work.

Not all reptilian are homosexual and not all reptilians are pedophiles.

Mind control trauma is used by certain factions within "power" groups to break the souls of children, to be used as sex slaves and to do dirty work for the reppies. Yet they are not all homosexuals. That is a fallacy.

The media is pushing the sexualization of young people. Subtlety. MTV is a good example of this and corporate advertising is also.

McDonalds is NOT pushing pedophilia. Only advertising to a niche market. Corporation would sell their soul, even though they dont have one.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...the-false-link

A long cut and paste. But it is worth it to get the FACTS right.

Q: I've heard therapists say that a male adult who sexually abuses a boy isn't necessarily ‘homosexual.' This seems confusing: If he isn't homosexual, then why would he sexually molest boys, instead of girls?This is a very good question, and there are several ways to respond to it. First, we need to clarify our definitions. When discussing sexual abuse and molestation of children, there's often conflict over terminology. One frequently quoted researchers on the topic of homosexuality and child molestation,Gregory Herek, a research psychologist at the University of California, defines pedophilia as "a psychosexual disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners, which may or may not be acted upon." He defines child sexual abuse as "actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent." Not all pedophiles actually molest children, he points out. A pedophile may be attracted to children, but never actually engage in sexual contact with them. Quite often, pedophiles never develop a sexual orientation toward other adults.



Herek points out that child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to "actions," without implying any "particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator." In other words, not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles. Pedophilia can be viewed as a kind of sexual fetish, wherein the person requires the mental image of a child--not necessarily a flesh-and-blood child--to achieve sexual gratification. Rarely does a pedophile experience sexual desire for adults of either gender. They usually don't identify as homosexual-the majority identify as heterosexual, even those who abuse children of the same gender They are sexually aroused by youth, not by gender. In contrast, child molesters often exert power and control over children in an effort to dominate them. They do experience sexual desire for adults, but molest children episodically, for reasons apart from sexual desire, much as rapists enjoy power, violence and controlling their humiliated victims. Indeed, research supports that a child molester isn't any more likely to be homosexual than heterosexual.

In fact, some research shows that for pedophiles, the gender of the child is immaterial. Accessibility is more the factor in who a pedophile abuses. This may explain the high incidence of children molested in church communities and fraternal organizations, where the pedophile may more easily have access to children. In these situations, an adult male is trusted by those around him, including children and their families. Males are often given access to boys to mentor, teach, coach and advise. Therefore, a male pedophile may have easier access to a male child. In trying to make sense of an adult male's sexually abusing a male child, many of us mislabel it as an act of homosexuality, which it isn't.

Feminists have argued for years that rape is not a sex act-it is an act of violence using sex as a weapon. In the same way, a pedophile abusing a child of the same sex is not perpetrating a homosexual act, but an act of violence and exploitation using sexuality. There is a world of difference between these two things, but it requires a subtle understanding of the inner motivation of the abuser.

To call child molestation of a boy by a man "homosexual" or of a girl by a man "heterosexual" is to misunderstand pedophilia. No true pedophile is attracted to adults, so neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality applies. Accordingly, Herek suggests calling men's sexual abuse of boys "male-male molestation" and men's abuse of girls, "male-female molestation."

nterestingly, Anna C. Salter writes, in "Predators, Pedophiles, Rapists and other Sex Offenders", that when a man molests little girls, we call him a "pedophile" and not a "heterosexual." Of course, when a man molests little boys, people say outright, or mutter under their breath, "homosexual. Herek writes that because of our society's aversion to male homosexuality, and the attempts made by some to represent gay men as a danger to "family values," many in our society immediately think of male-male molestation as homosexuality. He compares this with the time when African Americans were often falsely accused of raping white women, and when medieval Jews were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Both are examples of how mainstream society eagerly jumped to conclusions to that justified discrimination and violence against these minorities. Today, gays face the same kind of prejudice. Most recently, we've seen gay men unfairly turned out of the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of this myth that gay men are likely to be child molesters. Keeping gays out of scouting won't protect boys from pedophiles.

In reality, abuse of boys by gay pedophiles is rare, and the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still. Nicholas Groth is a noted authority on this topic. In a 1982 study by Grot, he asks, "Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children, and are pre-adolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual." Herek writes, similarly, that abuse of boys by gay men is rare; and that the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still.
The topic of female-female molestation continues to be largely ignored. There are few books on female sex offenders, particularly about mothers sexually abusing their daughters. I can find only one book on mothers who sexually abuse their sons by Hani Miletski, M.S.W., entitled, "Mother-Son Incest: The Unthinkable Taboo." Unthinkable is an appropriate word-so much so that there is nothing else in the literature on this topic, even though female pedophiles and female child molesters certainly exist.
We know so much more than we did historically and yet have a long way to go. We can understand child sexual abuse further when people's bias and prejudice are removed and the evidence is empirical and scientific.


If you think you are going to use your "left hand path " on me. It wont work. The karma will come back on you ten fold.


Sod off back to the Sodlike forum..Billy Ruben...hahahhahahaha. Geezz you are so false.

Fool....


When someone takes things out of context and pushes an agenda. WITHOUT looking into all the facts, then they either have an agenda themselves or are a fool.

There is no question to the premises that the satanic, left hand path occultist...Ring a bell... use children who are prepubescent to extract the energy from them. That energy is used as a drug, just like heroin. It create euphoria. a rush off endorphins. Sick as it is, but that is the way the reptilians work.

Not all reptilian are homosexual and not all reptilians are pedophiles.

Mind control trauma is used by certain factions within "power" groups to break the souls of children, to be used as sex slaves and to do dirty work for the reppies. Yet they are not all homosexuals. That is a fallacy.

The media is pushing the sexualization of young people. Subtlety. MTV is a good example of this and corporate advertising is also.

McDonalds is NOT pushing pedophilia. Only advertising to a niche market. Corporation would sell their soul, even though they dont have one.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...the-false-link

A long cut and paste. But it is worth it to get the FACTS right.

Q: I've heard therapists say that a male adult who sexually abuses a boy isn't necessarily ‘homosexual.' This seems confusing: If he isn't homosexual, then why would he sexually molest boys, instead of girls?This is a very good question, and there are several ways to respond to it. First, we need to clarify our definitions. When discussing sexual abuse and molestation of children, there's often conflict over terminology. One frequently quoted researchers on the topic of homosexuality and child molestation,Gregory Herek, a research psychologist at the University of California, defines pedophilia as "a psychosexual disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners, which may or may not be acted upon." He defines child sexual abuse as "actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent." Not all pedophiles actually molest children, he points out. A pedophile may be attracted to children, but never actually engage in sexual contact with them. Quite often, pedophiles never develop a sexual orientation toward other adults.



Herek points out that child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to "actions," without implying any "particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator." In other words, not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles. Pedophilia can be viewed as a kind of sexual fetish, wherein the person requires the mental image of a child--not necessarily a flesh-and-blood child--to achieve sexual gratification. Rarely does a pedophile experience sexual desire for adults of either gender. They usually don't identify as homosexual-the majority identify as heterosexual, even those who abuse children of the same gender They are sexually aroused by youth, not by gender. In contrast, child molesters often exert power and control over children in an effort to dominate them. They do experience sexual desire for adults, but molest children episodically, for reasons apart from sexual desire, much as rapists enjoy power, violence and controlling their humiliated victims. Indeed, research supports that a child molester isn't any more likely to be homosexual than heterosexual.

In fact, some research shows that for pedophiles, the gender of the child is immaterial. Accessibility is more the factor in who a pedophile abuses. This may explain the high incidence of children molested in church communities and fraternal organizations, where the pedophile may more easily have access to children. In these situations, an adult male is trusted by those around him, including children and their families. Males are often given access to boys to mentor, teach, coach and advise. Therefore, a male pedophile may have easier access to a male child. In trying to make sense of an adult male's sexually abusing a male child, many of us mislabel it as an act of homosexuality, which it isn't.

Feminists have argued for years that rape is not a sex act-it is an act of violence using sex as a weapon. In the same way, a pedophile abusing a child of the same sex is not perpetrating a homosexual act, but an act of violence and exploitation using sexuality. There is a world of difference between these two things, but it requires a subtle understanding of the inner motivation of the abuser.

To call child molestation of a boy by a man "homosexual" or of a girl by a man "heterosexual" is to misunderstand pedophilia. No true pedophile is attracted to adults, so neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality applies. Accordingly, Herek suggests calling men's sexual abuse of boys "male-male molestation" and men's abuse of girls, "male-female molestation."

nterestingly, Anna C. Salter writes, in "Predators, Pedophiles, Rapists and other Sex Offenders", that when a man molests little girls, we call him a "pedophile" and not a "heterosexual." Of course, when a man molests little boys, people say outright, or mutter under their breath, "homosexual. Herek writes that because of our society's aversion to male homosexuality, and the attempts made by some to represent gay men as a danger to "family values," many in our society immediately think of male-male molestation as homosexuality. He compares this with the time when African Americans were often falsely accused of raping white women, and when medieval Jews were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Both are examples of how mainstream society eagerly jumped to conclusions to that justified discrimination and violence against these minorities. Today, gays face the same kind of prejudice. Most recently, we've seen gay men unfairly turned out of the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of this myth that gay men are likely to be child molesters. Keeping gays out of scouting won't protect boys from pedophiles.

In reality, abuse of boys by gay pedophiles is rare, and the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still. Nicholas Groth is a noted authority on this topic. In a 1982 study by Grot, he asks, "Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children, and are pre-adolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual." Herek writes, similarly, that abuse of boys by gay men is rare; and that the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still.
The topic of female-female molestation continues to be largely ignored. There are few books on female sex offenders, particularly about mothers sexually abusing their daughters. I can find only one book on mothers who sexually abuse their sons by Hani Miletski, M.S.W., entitled, "Mother-Son Incest: The Unthinkable Taboo." Unthinkable is an appropriate word-so much so that there is nothing else in the literature on this topic, even though female pedophiles and female child molesters certainly exist.
We know so much more than we did historically and yet have a long way to go. We can understand child sexual abuse further when people's bias and prejudice are removed and the evidence is empirical and scientific.


If you think you are going to use your "left hand path " on me. It wont work. The karma will come back on you ten fold.


Sod off back to the Sodlike forum..Billy Ruben...hahahhahahaha. Geezz you are so false.