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Post  Goldy Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:31 am

David Cole (Jew himself) has doubts that the Holocaust ever happened, not to mention Bishop Richard Williamson who denied the Holocaust, who has since apologized.

David Cole's video, searching for evidence behind the gates of Aushwitz.

http://www.johnthebaptist.us/sbw/conspiracies/holocaust/chv1a_behind_gates_auschwitz_pt1.htm

http://blog.balder.org/?p=600

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Post  Damn'sod..!!! Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:24 pm

He Has Retracted This Now...

Excerpts from David Cole's retraction:

I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War II, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B).
The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable...

I now understand that I owe it to the people I wronged to make a forceful repudication [sic] of my earlier views. I also owe a very large apology, not only to the many people I enraged, and to the family and friends I hurt, but especially to the survivors of the Holocaust, who deserve only our respect and compassion, not re-victimization.

Therefore, to all of the above people, let me offer my most humble and very, very sincere apology.
I am sorry for what (I) did, and I am sorry for the hurt I caused...

David Cole Defection letter reads as follows:

"This statement is given in an attempt to set the record straight about my current views regarding the Holocaust and Holocaust denial.
As anyone who follows the subject of the Holocaust denial knows, from 1991 until 1994 I was well known in the movement as a Jewish Holocaust denier (a self-described "revisionist").
For the last three years I have no longer been associated with this movement, having realized that I was wrong and that the path I was taking with my life was self-destructive and hurtful to others.
I have spent the last few years in silence on the subject of my time with the denial movement, a silence caused mainly by my shame at what I had done with my life and my desire to distance myself from that life.

However, in that shame-induced silence it has been brought to my attention that I have not gone as far as I should have to make a clear and complete public statement in order to set the record straight as to where I stand.

It is my great hope that this statement accomplishes that task.

I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War II, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B).

The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable.

The Nazis intended to kill all of the Jews of Europe, and the final death toll of this attempted genocide was six million.
This atrocity, unique in its scope and breadth, must never be forgotten.

During my four years as a denier, I was wracked with self-hate and loathing, a fact that many of my critics were quick to point out.
Indeed, this self hatred was obvious to most, but I was too blind to see it.
The hate I had for myself I took out on my people.
I was seduced by pseudo historical nonsense and clever-sounding but empty ideas and catch-phrases.
When my eyes were finally opened, thanks to several good, kind friends who refused to give up on me even at my worst, I was horrified by what I had done.
My instinct was to flee and never look back, but I now understand that I owe it to the people I wronged to make a forceful repudication of my earlier views.
I also owe a very large apology, not only to the many people I enraged, and to the family and friends I hurt, but especially to the survivors of the Holocaust, who deserve only our respect and compassion, not re-victimization.

Therefore, to all of the above people, let me offer my most humble and very, very sincere apology.

I am sorry for what (I) did, and I am sorry for the hurt I caused.

And just as I must set the record straight concerning my views, it is also incumbent on me to set the record straight regarding the video "documentaries" and media appearances I did from 1991 to 1994.
These "documentaries" are merely videotaped garbage filled with self-hatred and pseudo-intellectual nonsense. My "media appearances" were nothing but an embarrassment.
My glazed look, specious reasoning, and talking-in-circles during my talk show appearances would have hopefully alerted any astute viewers that this was a man not in touch with reality.

It has been brought to my attention that Bradley Smith is still using one of my videos in advertisements he is running on college campuses.
Therefore, I would like to make these additional points:
This video is being advertised without my consent, and I denounce this video as being without worth.
Bradley Smith is no historian, and denial is no "historical field".
Students on college campuses should look elsewhere to find out about the Holocaust.
To these students, I would say, look to books like Hilberg's "Destruction of the European Jews", Yahil's "The Holocaust", and Dawidowicz's "War against the Jews" for correct information.
If your school library doesn't stock these books, have them order copies.
Do not pay any attention to any "David Cole" videos, except to rightly denounce them as frauds.

I am thankful for being given the opportunity to make this statement.
This statement is made freely and under no duress, and is quite willingly, even happily given to Mr. Irv Rubin of the Jewish Defence League for the widest possible distribution.
This statement is the most current and accurate compilation of my views, and it supersedes an(y) previous writings, videos, or statements.
It is my hope that there will be no more confusion as to where I stand.
I thank you for letting me set the record straight.

(signed)

David Cole

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Post  Goldy Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:06 am

Seems strange that so many Holocaust Deniers all end up retracting their statements! Why make these claims in the first place?

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Post  John Drake Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:38 am

22ct wrote:David Cole (Jew himself) has doubts that the Holocaust ever happened, not to mention Bishop Richard Williamson who denied the Holocaust, who has since apologized.

David Cole's video, searching for evidence behind the gates of Aushwitz.

http://www.johnthebaptist.us/sbw/conspiracies/holocaust/chv1a_behind_gates_auschwitz_pt1.htm

http://blog.balder.org/?p=600

I remember Goldy posting all about David Irving's holocaust denial she also was completely oblivious that Irving had changed his views like Williamson.

I wonder if shes 22ct Goldy or just a Dandelion covered in dog piss.

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Post  Goldy Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:26 am

blanking out dandelion's posts and threads from your own forum Drake, wont hide the evidence that you are in fact dandelion lol!




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Post  John Drake Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:40 am

22ct wrote:blanking out dandelion's posts and threads from your own forum Drake, wont hide the evidence that you are in fact dandelion lol! study

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


Anonymouse is shit Goldy/22ct/dandelion and if you join up again with the same Welsh located Ip i'll ban you again.

You gave yourself away scrubber you should have gotten one of your bum chums to mention it.

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Post  Goldy Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:32 pm

Shame you HAD TO BAN ANOTHER ONE OF YOURSELVES lol! i ain't DANDELION, SuGAR PLUM


Just cocked up! SUCKER

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Post  John Drake Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:53 pm

22ct wrote:Shame you HAD TO BAN ANOTHER ONE OF YOURSELVES lol! i ain't DANDELION, SuGAR PLUM


Just cocked up! SUCKER

If i was dandelion i wouldn't have cocked up thinking it was you would i, lol to easy.

Thing is you moan about sock puppets on my forum of which i have none and yet you have openly admitted to having numerous sock puppets on other forums. Isn't that a bit two faced lol.

If you really think I'm going to believe some other idiot from the Swansea area just happened to find my forum in the vastness of the Internet you must be fucking mad. Then when you started the talk about your own creation being me it really gave it away. All things come to those who wait.

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Post  Goldy Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:04 pm

Dandelion! do you think ppl are stupid? I'm still laughing lol!

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Post  John Drake Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:35 pm

Goldy you were as convincing as Mrs Tiswas playing Mrs Mars then denying it afterwards.

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Post  Goldy Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:07 am

I dont know that much about computers, but I do know that a person cannot go back to a forum days later and delete or edit their threads or posts.
There's no way I'd join your forum knowing only to well your only after ppl's ISP's. This is common Knowledge and so is the fact that you are dandelion. As per usual, talking to yourself again.

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Post  John Drake Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:51 am

22ct wrote: I dont know that much about computers, but I do know that a person cannot go back to a forum days later and delete or edit their threads or posts.

You can delete your post anytime so long as its not be replied to. If that post is the first and only in the thread deleting the post will delete the thread also. So long as the post has not be replied to you can do this on most forums anytime.

However i never said you deleted threads or posts you deleted your text in them as they had been replied to you were unable to remove the post or thread itself. But that wasn't your intention was it. You deleted the text in your posts and claimed it was me trying to hide evidence.

You can edit posts on here and most forums whenever you like look what i just did to one from last month https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/post.forum?mode=editpost&p=79

However your just acting thick as that is common knolage and you deleted the text from your posts on my forum

Now lets get this straight one last time as i know your not the brightest crayon in the box. I said you deleted the text from your posts on my forum. I did not say you deleted the posts or the resulting threads. Got it this time?

22ct wrote:There's no way I'd join your forum knowing only to well your only after ppl's ISP's. This is common Knowledge and so is the fact that you are dandelion. As per usual, talking to yourself again.

Actually i never replied to Dandelion there was nothing worth a response in your posts.

When you visit as a guest your IP shows up in the who's online log anyway. You dont have to post or join guests appear just the same. So if i wanted to know who your ISP is i would just look for an IP from Wales and bang ive got it. Do a whois on the ip address and theres your ISP. So lets say for example your Isp is azzaz telecommunications online. Now what? Whats the good of knowing that? I'm with Orange mobile that's my ISP and according to you that's valuable information lol.

The only value of having someones IP address is you can complain to there ISP if they are being a cunt. That's why the isp has a report abuse email address on there whois results. Yes they supply information about them not you dickhead. However the ISP knows who has what and who's been where so if your not being naughty you have nothing to worry about.

The ip address will only give you the name and contact details of the ISP and a rough indication of the area the person is. However some are different as in Ferds case. He was a silly boy and posted from work on there network which gave the name and address of the work place he was using to post his filth. Then you could complain directly to the company.

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Post  Goldy Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:29 am

Holocaust-denying bishop arrives in Britain following offer of refuge from rebel historian David Irving

The Holocaust-denying bishop expelled from Argentina for his 'insulting' views has been invited to stay with controversial historian David Irving.
Bishop Richard Williamson was said to be so worried about being arrested on arrival at Heathrow that he contacted Irving for help
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Irving, who has served a prison sentence in Austria for 'glorifying and identifying with the German Nazi Party', offered to put him up at his home in Windsor and asked socialite Lady Michele Renouf to meet the bishop at Heathrow with extradition lawyers in case he was arrested.

When the bishop arrived he was not arrested, but was flanked by an armed police guard and three private bodyguards.

Argentinian authorities had given him ten days to leave the country after he claimed in a recent interview that only 300,000 Jews rather than six million had died in Nazi concentration camps during the Second World War, and that none were gassed.

Bishop Williamson, a member of the Roman Catholic conservative Society of St Pius X, remained at its London headquarters with three security guards tonight.

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Post  John Drake Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:52 am

I'm talking about the Jewish evacuation. The extermination of the Jewish people. Its one of those things that's easily said, the Jewish people are being exterminated. Every party member will tell you its perfectly clear its part of our plans we are eliminating the Jews, exterminating them HA. Its a small matter.

Heinrich Himmler

Now fuck face what part of that is hard to grasp? Listen to the whole rant here:

www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ab_1190744487&p=1

Was it April fools day and good old Heinrich was just having a bit of a giggle?

At his trial in Nuremberg Himmler questioned the 6 million figure and said he thought it was more than that.

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Post  Damn'sod..!!! Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:32 pm

Droike wrote:I'm talking about the Jewish evacuation. The extermination of the Jewish people. Its one of those things that's easily said, the Jewish people are being exterminated. Every party member will tell you its perfectly clear its part of our plans we are eliminating the Jews, exterminating them HA. Its a small matter.

Heinrich Himmler

Now fuck face what part of that is hard to grasp? Listen to the whole rant here:

www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ab_1190744487&p=1

Was it April fools day and good old Heinrich was just having a bit of a giggle?

At his trial in Nuremberg Himmler questioned the 6 million figure and said he thought it was more than that.

Himmler Never Was Tried At Nuremberg Though...!!!

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At 6:30 p.m. on 23 May 1945, "Sergeant Hitzinger" and his escorts were booked into 031 CIC Barnstedt.
At this time ex-Gauleiter of Hamburg, Karl Kaufmann, a more moderate Nazi, was watching new arrivals from the inner compound of Kolkhagen Camp.
He noted an odd figure in military boots and breeches and a civilian jacket and saw him go behind a bush, remove an eye patch, and reappear putting on glasses - he was immediately recognizable as Himmler, whom Kaufmann had met.
This must have been the moment when Himmler decided to admit his identity.
At about 7:00 p.m., the camp commandant, Captain Thomas Selvester, was informed that three prisoners were insisting on seeing him, in itself an unusual request.
Himmler had presumably re-disguised himself for effect, for when he appeared before the camp commandant, he was again wearing the eye patch.

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Selvester thus described the scene:
"The first man to enter my office was small, ill-looking and shabbily dressed, but he was immediately followed by two other men (Grothmann and Macher), both of whom were tall and soldierly-looking, one slim, and one well-built.
The well-built man walked with a limp.
I sensed something unusual, and ordered one of my sergeants to place the two men in close custody, and not to allow anyone to speak to them without my authority.
They were then removed from my office, whereupon the small man, who was wearing a patch over his left eye, removed the patch and put on a pair of spectacles.
His identity was at once obvious, and he said "Heinrich Himmler" in a very quiet voice."

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Captain Selvester immediately informed HQ British Second Army at Lüneburg and Major Rice, an Intelligence staff officer, arrived at 7:30 p.m. to confirm Himmler's identity.
The German was asked to sign his name and this was compared with a signature Major Rice had brought with him.
The next step was a body search:
"This I carried out personally," said Captain Selvester, "handing each item of clothing as it was removed to my sergeant, who re-examined it.
In his jacket I found a small brass case, similar to a cartridge case, which contained a small glass phial.
I recognized it for what it was, but asked Himmler what it contained, and he said, 'that is my medicine.
It cures stomach cramp.'
I also found a similar brass case, but without the phial, and came to the conclusion that the phial was hidden somewhere on the prisoner's person.
When all Himmler's clothing had been removed and searched, all the orifices of his body were searched, also his hair combed and any likely hiding place examined, but no trace of the phial was found.
At this stage he was not asked to open his mouth, as I considered that if the phial was hidden in his mouth and we tried to remove it, it might precipitate some action that would be regretted.
I did however send for thick bread and cheese sandwiches and tea, which I offered to Himmler, hoping that I would see if he removed anything from his mouth.
I watched him closely, whilst he was eating, but did not notice anything unusual."

Now Here Is The Very Stiff Upper Lip Way Of Describing Himmlers Death...!!!


On 23 May, Himmler was taken to the Security Force Headquarters at Uelzener Straße 31a in Lüneburg.
He had to undress himself and was inspected by the military doctor, Captain C. J. Wells, accompanied by Colonel Michael Murphy (Secret Service), Major Norman Whittaker, and Company Sergeant Major Edwin Austin.
When the doctor saw a dark object in a gap in Himmler's lower jaw, he ordered him to come closer to the light and tried to remove the glass capsule.
Suddenly Himmler bit on the cyanide capsule and at the doctor's fingers.
Himmler fell to the ground (or: he was thrown to the ground) and someone shouted
"The bastard beats us!"
The smell of prussic acid spread through the room.
"We immediately upended the old bastard and got his mouth into the bowl of water which was there to wash the poison out",
noted Major Whittaker in his diary.
"There were terrible groans and grunts coming from the swine."
Himmler's tongue was secured in an attempt to prevent him from swallowing the poison.
Dr Wells tried resuscitation but it was in vain.
After a quarter hour they stopped. "
... it was a losing battle and this evil thing breathed its last at 23:14 hours."

(Winston G. Ramsey: Himmler's Suicide. In: After the Battle No 14, London 15th August 1976, p. 35)

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Post  Damn'sod..!!! Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:00 pm

Droinke Is Probably Thinking About The Adolf Eichman Trial...

Appointed assistant to the SD leader of the SS main region, Danube, Eichmann's first big opportunity came after he was sent to Vienna by the Gestapo to prepare the ground for the Anschluss.

From August 1938 he was in charge of the "Office for Jewish Emigration" in Vienna set up by the SS as the sole Nazi agency authorized to issue exit permits for Jews from Austria, then Czechoslovakia and later the old German Reich.
Eichmann's acquired expertise in "forced emigration"--in less than eighteen months approximately 150,000 Jews left Austria--and extortion was to prove an ideal training-ground for his later efficiency in "forced evacuation," i.e., the registering, assembly and deportation of Jews to extermination centres in the East.
By March 1939 he was already handling forced deportations to Poland and, in October of the same year, he was appointed special adviser on the "evacuation" of Jews and Poles.

In December 1939 Eichmann was transferred to Amt IV (Gestapo) of the Reich Main Security Office (RSHA) where he took over Referat IV B4 dealing with Jewish affairs and evacuation.
For the next six years Eichmann's office was the headquarters for the implementation of the 'Final Solution'; though it was not until the summer of 1941 that his 'resettlement' department began the task of creating death camps, developing gassing techniques and organizing the system of convoys that were to take European Jewry to their deaths.

It was in 1941 that Eichmann first visited Auschwitz and in November of the same year he was promoted to SS Lieutenant-Colonel.
He had already begun to organize the mass deportation of Jews from Germany and Bohemia, in accordance with Hitler's order to make the Reich free of Jews as rapidly as possible.

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Charges against Eichmann:

Eichmann was charged under a 1950 Israeli law enacted to punish Nazis and their collaborators.
He was charged on 15 counts:


§ Charge 1: He was ultimately responsible for the murder of millions of Jews.

§ Charge 2: He placed these Jews, before they were murdered, in living conditions designed to kill them.

§ Charge 3: He caused them grave physical and mental harm.

§ Charge 4: He took actions which resulted in the sterilization of Jews and otherwise prevented childbirth.

§ Charge 5: He caused the enslavement, starvation, and deportation of millions of Jews.

§ Charge 6: He caused general persecution of Jews based on national, racial, religious and political grounds.

§ Charge 7: He spoiled Jewish property by inhuman measures involving compulsion, robbery, terrorism and violence.

§ Charge 8: That all of the above were punishable war crimes.

§ Charge 9: He deported a half-million Poles.

§ Charge 10: He deported 14,000 Slovenes.

§ Charge 11: He deported tens of thousands of gypsies.

§ Charge 12: He deported and murdered 100 Czech children from the village of Lidice.


The final three charges involved membership in organizations which were judged to be criminal by the Nuremberg Trials: the S.D., Gestapo, and S.S.
The first 12 counts of the indictment each carried the death penalty as the maximum punishment.

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Post  Goldy Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:11 am

Now David Irving is selling off Hitler's remains Shocked


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Naz-eBay: Holocaust denier David Irving tries to sell Hitler's hair and bones on website

Controversial historian David Irving has set up a website selling Nazi memorabilia which he claims includes a piece of Hitler's bone and strands of his hair.

Dubbed 'Naz-eBay' by Holocaust groups, the site also offers a walking stick used by the German dictator and a christening present given by SS leader Heinrich Himmler to Luftwaffe commander Hermann Goering's daughter.

Irving, who was jailed in Austria for Holocaust denial, 'authenticates' the relics and displays them on his website run from his home in Windsor. He profits from the site by taking a 15 per cent commission fee on all items sold.
Last night, Dr Shimon Samuels, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre which searches for Nazi war criminals, called for a UK ban on the selling of Third Reich items.

It is illegal to trade in Nazi memorabilia in Germany, France, Austria and Poland.

In Germany, the maximum penalty for dealing in Nazi items is a three-year prison sentence.

Dr Samuels said: 'This Naz-eBay is extremely distasteful to the point of sick.

The fragments are labelled as being from Hitler's rib and Braun's spine. Strands of Hitler's hair, which were allegedly collected by his barber by using a piece of sticky tape attached to the bottom of his shoe, are expected to go on sale at up to $180,000 (£130,000).

Irving is selling the scorched wooden walking stick at £7,000 for a widow who lives in Ealing, west London.

Controversial British historian Irving is selling Nazi items
Her late husband bought the stick, one of several used by the tyrant, from Hitler's country estate manager in 1993.

Mark Gardner of the anti-Semitism charity, Community Security Trust, said: 'These claims are very disturbing, and show how legislation has trouble coping with new global communications.

'Nazism is not dead, and decent lessons of World War Two are not forgotten with the passing of time.'

Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said: 'It is extremely disturbing that this trade exists, particularly when it is run from the UK.'

Irving said: 'I sell authentic items and when people come to my website and see the name David Irving, they know they are buying an authentic item. I have a living to make and this is how I make my money.

'There are some very wealthy people, mainly in the U.S., and I know how much they will pay for these items.'

Last week Irving offered sanctuary to Roman Catholic Bishop Richard Williamson, who caused worldwide outrage after saying that no Jews died in Nazi gas chambers.

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Post  John Drake Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:46 am

On Monday, before the trial began, he told reporters: "I'm not a Holocaust denier. Obviously, I've changed my views.

"History is a constantly growing tree - the more you know, the more documents become available, the more you learn, and I have learned a lot since 1989."

Like rats leaving a sinking ship.

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Post  Goldy Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:48 am

Droike wrote:
On Monday, before the trial began, he told reporters: "I'm not a Holocaust denier. Obviously, I've changed my views.

"History is a constantly growing tree - the more you know, the more documents become available, the more you learn, and I have learned a lot since 1989."

Like rats leaving a sinking ship.

So Drake, I assume you learnt how to swim well?


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Post  Lady Tis-Shine Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:07 am

Well I personally do think the Holocaust did exist, but I am concerned about the current Holocaust in Palestine. Sad
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Post  cek Wed May 16, 2012 10:20 am

I do not know the truth.
I want to know the truth.
I think it is somewhere between the
Holocaust deniers and the Holocaust advocates.

The lack of proof and the emotional tirades towards all who seek truth
mean that I am no longer confident in the official story.

I want to know the truth.

I have watched some of Cole's videos and read the recantation posted here.

I fear that the truth is not completely in both of them, but the denial does not make sense, no facts, just some words to make someone happy, I fear.

I seek the truth

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Post  Billy Ruben Wed May 16, 2012 5:31 pm

LADY TIS-SHINE wrote:Well I personally do think the Holocaust did exist, but I am concerned about the current Holocaust in Palestine. Sad


Yes,I'm quite concerned with Israels old school approach similar to the genocidal dictators of the 1930's and 40's.
I would've expected the subtle approach of witlling down an "unter-mensch" neighbour like the Palestinians by bombarding them with American mind-rot,like TV Sitcoms and Burger and Pizza franchises,designed to obese the population and retard their brains.Hit them with a DNA specific virus and let the remainders,be forcibly sterilized and "allowed" to work the rest of their lives,doing menial jobs,like flipping burgers at the very franchises given to weaken them.Because I'm a cunt,but a clever one.You'll love it,embrace it,like mobile phones,designed to keep a track on you.The insult in never ending,I make you pay for your own enslavement.Genius.

But this plaigiristic dictatorship 1940's style adopted by Israel,lacks creativity and direction.Devoid in application to the avante garde,but replicating a defunct style that is tasteless to the modern world palate for Imperial incursion.Fuck you Israel.


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