Look at Handbags and Goldy's heroes shitting their pants

Hey not to worry the trials were a farce and they were nice guys really.
And dont forget they ain't really dead they all lived happily ever after in the hollow Earth with Adolf and fly about in UFOs.

Now yer just being silly

Look at their fucking faces. I doubt they would agree with Handbag and Icke that it was a farce.

A farce is a comedy but i dont see anyone laughing.

These trials were a farce, and what a completely childish title this thread has.
Nuremburg was a showcase trial so that Isreal can be created on Palestian soil by Illuminati forces. Isreal was actually going to be situated in the African continent and this was something that has been discussed in many conspricarcy circles, apparently Palestine was decided to become Isreal due to the plan and simple reason of Old Testament biblical stories and fiction. The Jewish faith I have nothing against at all and this Nuremberg trial was a farce because the allies exactly knew of the Holocaust whilst this terror happened.

History
lsrael's ties with South Africa seem to be especially disturbing to many who follow Israel's international activities. Perhaps it is natural that Israel has been castigated more harshly for its arms sales to South Africa than for its sales to other countries: first, because there has been for a decade an arms embargo against South Africa; and second, because of the unsurpassed criminality of the white regime and the uses to which it puts the Israeli-supplied weapons.
It has also been said that those arms sales are understandable, given the striking similarities between the two countries in their day-to-day abuse and repression of their subject populations, South African blacks and Palestinians under Israeli rule; in their operating philosophies of apartheid and Zionism; and in their similar objective situations: "the only two Western nations to have established themselves in a predominantly nonwhite part of the world," as a South African Broadcasting Corporation editorial put it. That understanding, however, is somewhat superficial, and the focus on similarities of political behavior has somewhat obscured the view of the breadth and depth of the totality of Israeli-South African relations and their implications.
Israel's relations with South Africa are different than its interactions with any of its other arms clients. That Israel gave South Africa its nuclear weapons capability underscores the special nature of Tel Aviv's relations with the white minority government and begins to describe it - a full-fledged, if covert, partnership based on the determination of both countries to continue as unrepentant pariahs and to help each other avoid the consequences of their behavior.
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Arms industry
Nuclear Apprentice
There are few areas where the respective needs and advantages of Israel and South Africa dovetailed so perfectly as in the field of nuclear cooperation.
"The most powerful reason for Israeli willingness to bear the undesirable consequences of expanded and more open trade with South Africa may be her desire to acquire material necessary to manufacture nuclear weapons," wrote a military analyst in 1980.' To that must be added Israel's great desire to test the nuclear weapons it already had, and the attractions of South Africa's vast territory and proximity to even vaster uninhabited spaces-the Atlantic and Indian Oceans.
Then at the point in its nuclear development where it was fashioning sophisticated bombs (devices which use less nuclear material but have infinitely greater explosive force than the "primitive" bomb dropped by the U.S. on Hiroshima), Israel would find it particularly helpful to observe the performance, explosive force and fallout of a detonated weapon.
Since 1984, Israel had been operating a plutonium extraction plant in a secret underground bunker at Dimona in the Negev Desert. Built by the French in the late 1950s, the Dimona plant also included facilities for manufacturing atomic bomb components. At the time of the 1976 accords, Israel was preparing to build an adjoining plant for the extraction of lithium 6, tritium and deuterium, materials required for sophisticated thermonuclear weapons.
Israel's reasons for devoting what had to have been a significant portion of its scant resources to such an ambitious nuclear weapons program - nuclear experts have recently ranked it as the world's sixth nuclear power, after the U.S., the USSR, Britain, France and China - have been variously offered as the desire to develop a credible deterrent to attack by its neighbors and the desire to substitute that deterrent for at least part of the costly conventional arsenal that Israel, with one of the world's most powerful military forces, maintains, and also (with much less frequency) as an "umbrella" over a partial withdrawal from the occupied territories.
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The South Africans began teaching the lessons of Israel's 1967 war at their maneuver school, and Israeli advisers began teaching the Boers the arts of suppressing a captive population and keeping hostile neighbors off balance...
The white government's practice of domestic counterinsurgency l combines outright military brutality with the extensive use of informers and collaborators. It is impossible to know how many refinements of these age-old techniques have been borrowed from the Israelis' occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights. The Israeli system of village leagues is obviously comparable to the hated town councils imposed on segregated townships by the apartheid government. The collective punishment employed by the Israelis, such as the destruction of a whole family's home when one of its members is arrested as a suspect in an act of resistance, has lately been matched by the recent South African practices of sealing off townships, and assaulting entire funeral processions. What is perhaps more salient is the South African victims' perceptions of Israel's involvement in their oppression and how readily that perception is communicated...
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The Frontline States
The South Africans noted that their May, 1983 aerial attack (dubbed Operation Shrapnel) on Mozambique's capital, Maputo, was analogous to Israel's attack on Beirut the previous summer. one analyst, Joseph Hanlon, believes that one of South Africa's objectives in the attack was to see how its version of events would play in the media. It was received very well indeed, according to Hanlon, with the Western press accepting South Africa's claim that its attack was in "retaliation" for an ANC attack and that ANC "bases" were hit.
Instead, the South African Air Force hit a child-care center and private houses with "special fragmentation rockets," leaving 6 dead and 40 wounded. This follows the Israeli practice in Lebanon of speaking about PLO installations while civilians are the actual targets, and attacking with particularly heinous anti-personnel weapons-cluster bombs and phosphorous bombs.
The victims of South Africa's angst are not blind to the similarity of attacks-or motives.
President Samora Machel likened the Israeli Government to the Pretoria regime. He said that because of its inability to contain the fury of the Palestinian people led by the PLO, the Zionist regime is trying to transfer the war to other regions.
So reported Mozambican radio shortly after Israeli aircraft bombed PI headquarters in Tunisia in October 1985.
The model provided by Israel, which punishes every internal act of resistance and violent act outside its jurisdiction with a bombing raid on Palestinian targets in Lebanon-almost always refugee camps cynically identified by the Israelis as "terrorist bases" or "headquarters"-has served South Africa well. In January 1986, the white government's radio delivered a commentary on "the malignant presence" of "terrorism" in neighboring states and said "there's only one answer now, and that's the Israeli answer." Israel had managed to survive "by striking at terrorists wherever they exist."
In May 1986, South Africa demonstrated that it had assumed the right to attack its neighbors at a time and on a pretext of its own choosing. The chosen time was during a visit by the Eminent Persons Group of the Commonwealth of Nations, which was attempting to establish negotiations between the apartheid regime and its opposition. The victims-Zambia, Botswana and Zimbabwe, all Commonwealth members-were chosen for their alleged harboring of "terrorists"; the real victims were South African exiles and an employee of the government of Botswana. The South Africans said they had attacked "international terrorism" and compared their raids to the Israeli attack on Tunisia and the U.S. attack on Libya in April 1986.
The attack was similar in style to Israel's 1985 attack on Tunisia. Initially, the Israelis had been threatening Jordan and perhaps because King Hussein of Jordan was at the time on an official visit to the U.S., the Israelis chose to take revenge for the killing of three Israelis (believed to be top Mossad agents) in Larnaca, Cyprus on the PLO in Tunisia.
Two weeks after its three-pronged attack on its Commonwealth neighbors, South Africa attacked the Angolan harbor of Namibia, firing their version of the Israeli Gabriel missile.
Israel has also been connected with the mercenary forces deployed by South Africa against Angola and Mozambique. In the 1970s Israel aided the FNLA (Angolan National Liberation Front) proxy forces organized and trained by the CIA to forestall the formation of a government led by the MPLA (Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola-now the ruling party of Angola). John Stockwell, who ran the CIA operation against Angola, recollected three arms shipments Israel made in cooperation with the CIA: a plane full of 120 mm shells sent via Zaire to the FNLA and Unita; a shipment of 50 SA-7 missiles (all of which were duds); a boat-load sent to neighboring Zaire in a deal that the Israelis had worked out with President Mobutu, even though the Zairian strong man had broken ties with Israel two years earlier.
When Israel reestablished relations with Zaire (in 1982) and began to train Zairian forces in the Shaba border province, Angola had cause for concern. The leader of the FNLA had been Holden Roberto, brother-in-law of Zairian president Mobutu, Israel's new client. In 1986, it would be established that Zaire acted as a funnel for "covert" U.S. military aid for the Unita forces of Jonas Savimbi.
In 1983, the Angolan News Agency reported that Israeli military experts were training Unita forces in Namibia. Since Zaire began receiving military aid and training from Tel Aviv, Angola has been ill at ease. Its worries increased after discovering that:
Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon was personally involved in the organization, training and equipping of "commando" units of the army of Zaire, especially organized for missions along the borders of the RPA [Angola].
In 1984, the Financial Times (London) wrote of "joint Israeli-South African support for Unita forces." Other sources also report the transfer of Israeli arms and financial support to Unita.
In 1983, Angola's President Jose Eduardo dos Santos told Berkeley, California Mayor Eugene (Gus) Newport that an Israeli pilot had been shot down during a South African attack. The Angolan President showed Newport pictures of captured Israeli weapons. The following year, Luanda reported the capture of three mercenaries who said they had been trained by Israeli instructors in Zaire.
Israel has also been involved with the Mozambican "contras," the South African-backed MNR (Mozambique National Resistance or "Renamo"), which has brought great economic and social distress to Mozambique. Renamo has a particular reputation for ideological incoherence, being regarded by most other right-wing insurgencies as a gang of cutthroats. For several years there have been stories coming from Southern Africa of captured mercenaries of Renamo who say they were trained in neighboring Malawi-one of the four nations to maintain relations with Israel after the Organization of African Unity (OAU) declared a diplomatic embargo in 1973-by Israelis. And more than one report has told of "substantial Israeli aid" to the MNR, thought to have been funded by the CIA and Saudi Arabia as well as South Africa and former Portuguese nationalists.

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This flag has the sign not of the Jewish faith but Symbol of Rothschild. I remember being a activist during the late seventies, and Isreal was one nation alongside with Japan which unashamedly did business with South Africa during the troubled times. Just imagine if Isreal was situated in say Central Africa, how would the Isrealis be treating the people of Central Africa?

Lillian wrote:

This flag has the sign not of the Jewish faith but Symbol of Rothschild.

Interesting That Symbol On The Israel Flag Is The Seal Of Solomon...



The legend that Solomon possessed a seal ring on which the name of God was engraved and by means of which he controlled the demons.

This legend is especially developed by Arabic writers, who declare that the ring, on which was engraved "the Most Great Name of God,"

and which was given to Solomon from heaven, was partly brass and partly iron.
With the brass part of the ring Solomon signed his written commands to the good genii, and with the iron part he signed his commands to the evil genii, or devils.

The Arabic writers declare also that Solomon received four jewels from four different angels, and that he set them in one ring, so that he could control the four elements.

The legend that Asmodeus once obtained possession of the ring and threw it into the sea,
and that Solomon was thus deprived of his power until he discovered the ring inside a fish.

The Fish Symbolism Is Important For Christians Too...




Matthew 17:24-27

The Temple Tax

24After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, "Doesn't your teacher pay the temple tax?"

25"Yes, he does," he replied.
When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak.
"What do you think, Simon?" he asked.
"From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?"

26"From others," Peter answered.

"Then the sons are exempt," Jesus said to him.
27"But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line.
Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin.
Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours

So It Seems That Jesus Was Doing Solomons Magic In Solomons Temple...

Rather Than Ba-al zebubs Spells

Matthew 9:34.

But the Pharisees were saying,
"He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons."

What!?

"My Heroes"!?

They are no heroes of mine! How the hell do you come to say that!? You see, Droike, you see Anttichrists evetywhere.

"Hagbard questions some aspects of the Holocaust = He is a Nazi"

Bollocks! What an insult!

Hagbard Celine please do not give this gentleman the pleasure of a argument. Seems to me that this Droike character is just killing his time by behaving like a overgrown schoolboy. Please let us know where Hagbard Celine and Goldy called these criminals 'heroes'.
Sounds to me you are disturbed and have some sort of drink problem, you need medical help and fast.

Lillian wrote:Please let us know where Hagbard Celine and Goldy called these criminals 'heroes'.
Sounds to me you are disturbed and have some sort of drink problem, you need medical help and fast.

That's right, Droiky. Let's hear how you justify this nasty accusation.

Droike wrote:

Hey not to worry the trials were a farce and they were nice guys really.
And dont forget they ain't really dead they all lived happily ever after in the hollow Earth with Adolf and fly about in UFOs.

Maybe they are. There's a forest of question marks over what really happened to whom.

Nuremburg was a farce. It was the first nail in the stage scenery. It made sure thay we have the image of WWII that we do today: That it was a war of good guys against bad guys, just like in the movies. John Wayne vs Kurt Jurgens . Lillywhite Allies took on nasty old Antichrist Nazis . So the war was won by peace-loving humanitarian Zionists, who only want a teeny-weeny scrap of land in the Middle East to build the enlightened democracy of Israel as a haven for a people that suffered so much, until the good old hero Zionists rescued them from the clutches of the Evil Hun. The truth is: The war was engineered by the Illuminati, both Jew and Gentile. It wasn't good guys vs bad guys. It was bad guys vs bad guys. The Bank of England and its subsidiaries made sure money flowed to build both sides' armaments and Bush family agents bankrolled Hitler's rise to power, just like they did a generation earlier when they set up the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, creating the Communist bloc.

Actually at the end of the 19th Century the same thing happened in Japan. Until then Japan was isolated and backward, effectively still in the Middle Ages; but then it had this Attaturk-style revolution and cities, electricity pylons and railways were built. It went through the Industrial Revolution in a few short years. To engineer a worls war you need two evenly-matched sides.

The so-called Allies knew all about the Holocaust, it was common knowledge in the corridors of power in Moscow, London and Washington, yet nothing was done about it. The Nuremberg trial was a huge show-trial which was a key in the creation of Isreal.
Constantly Isreal is a source of the huge trouble in the Middle East and it was delibrately situated in that section of the world.

Lillian wrote:The so-called Allies knew all about the Holocaust, it was common knowledge in the corridors of power in Moscow, London and Washington, yet nothing was done about it. The Nuremberg trial was a huge show-trial which was a key in the creation of Isreal.
Constantly Isreal is a source of the huge trouble in the Middle East and it was delibrately situated in that section of the world.

Nothing was done lol. In your version of history did the Alies not liberate the camps?

The problem with war is phoning up your enemy and asking them to stop doing something doesn't work. So what you have to do is when you get there stop them yourself. This is what happened.

Hagbard Celine wrote:What!?

"My Heroes"!?

They are no heroes of mine! How the hell do you come to say that!? You see, Droike, you see Anttichrists evetywhere.

"Hagbard questions some aspects of the Holocaust = He is a Nazi"

Bollocks! What an insult!

You dont question you assert and what you assert i know has been shown to you to be lies many times before. Repeating shit like no traces of poison were found in the chambers is not questioning is it? You say shit like that you are shown to be wrong and a little time later on another board you will post it again. That means you have an agenda and fooling people with lies to cast doubt on the Holocaust is part of that agenda.

Its not a Jewish thing claim people like Icke but the are mentioning and pointing the finger constantly.

Antichrist lol is that the new world you learned this week Handbag? Its seems like every post i read that you have made about me contains it lately.

Droike wrote:
You dont question you assert and what you assert i know has been shown to you to be lies many times before. Repeating shit like no traces of poison were found in the chambers is not questioning is it? You say shit like that you are shown to be wrong and a little time later on another board you will post it again. That means you have an agenda and fooling people with lies to cast doubt on the Holocaust is part of that agenda.

What nonsense! I do doubt certain details of what happened during the Holocaust but I've never doubted or tried to persuade anyone that the Nazis didn't deliberately kill millions of people. I've never defended the Nazis. i'm as much opposed to the Nazis as most people.

Its not a Jewish thing claim people like Icke but the are mentioning and pointing the finger constantly.

Is that so? So where and how do mwe point the finger at Jews? I'm genuinely interested to know.

Here's Episode 1 of a brilliant Adam Curtis documentary, from 1995, which is all about the hidden hand behind Nuremburg and postwar Germany:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1758338679527790685&ei=cuHDSvf4LtTF-Aby1t3PBg&q=adam+curtis+living+dead#

So they had a trial and these monsters were convicted of hindus crimes. Some even reveled in in. What now we say forgive and forget and let them go with an ASBO?

Don't come with all that shit about others did it and got away with it that dont wash with me. People who do such things should be strung up and the trial should be a show trial to make others think twice.

Hagbard Celine wrote:

Droike wrote:
You dont question you assert and what you assert i know has been shown to you to be lies many times before. Repeating shit like no traces of poison were found in the chambers is not questioning is it? You say shit like that you are shown to be wrong and a little time later on another board you will post it again. That means you have an agenda and fooling people with lies to cast doubt on the Holocaust is part of that agenda.

What nonsense! I do doubt certain details of what happened during the Holocaust but I've never doubted or tried to persuade anyone that the Nazis didn't deliberately kill millions of people. I've never defended the Nazis. i'm as much opposed to the Nazis as most people.

Its not a Jewish thing claim people like Icke but the are mentioning and pointing the finger constantly.

Is that so? So where and how do mwe point the finger at Jews? I'm genuinely interested to know.

I dont know what mwe is.

Heres an example

[quote]The following year Icke brought out another book, "...and the truth shall set you free." This one, however, was self-published, as its content was so objectionable that his publisher refused to have it printed. And small wonder. The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were true, and went on to state: "I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War....They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."[quote]

Why mention some were Jews if he doesn't mention what the others were? If its not a Jewish conspiracy to him why single out one group and not mention the race or religion of the rest? Hes pointing the finger at Jews then saying not all Jews were involved and some were not Jews just to cover his back.

Its a thing often used by Jew haters. I dont blame all Jews just these Jews.

I read a wonderful book written by David Icke and he stated he does not care whether a drink is given to him by a Jew or Gentile, just give me a glass. Now is this the thing a anti-semite would say?

I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War...................

Tell me why in your opinion he says some were Jews but does not mention what the others were.

If you saw a news report that said six men robbed a bank and 2 were Muslim, would you not think why did they mention 2 were Muslim?

Icke is recovering alcoholic and an alcoholic would take a drink from anyone so you point means little really. In saying that you didnt mention which book so its impossible to put a date on the quote. Icke has according to him been on the wagon for a year or so.

Don't you dare be so mean on David Icke, you are mean. Judging from the writings of your posts, I believe that you personally are a drinker. Please just a deep breath and count to 10 if you want a casual glass of the strong water please.

[Droike wrote/quote]

Tell me why in your opinion he says some were Jews but does not mention what the others were.

If you saw a news report that said six men robbed a bank and 2 were Muslim, would you not think why did they mention 2 were Muslim?

I suppose it like a news reporter from Britain saying, 'Thousands were killed in a tsunami, but two were British citizens'

depends where the report is coming from and for whom!

Droike wrote:

Its a thing often used by Jew haters. I dont blame all Jews just these Jews.

So if I criticize the Vatican it means I hate all Catholics?

Hagbard Celine wrote:

Droike wrote:

Its a thing often used by Jew haters. I dont blame all Jews just these Jews.

So if I criticize the Vatican it means I hate all Catholics?

Handbag prentends to miss the point.

I said Its a thing often used by Jew haters which it is. Its a code, a way of not getting in trouble but you knew that already didnt you dingbat. I know you have seen "the lizards and the jews" where what i posted was clearly explained. Your poor attempts at trying to make out im stupid by making fascious remarks are backfiring lad.

I think Hagbard has a very good point, spot on Hagbard!

What ever race colour or creed you are, there's always the bad and the good in each.

Stop trying to twist words around Drake yer alaways doing that..........