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Post  true lilly Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:32 pm

Oh 'billy', why do 'you' still lie to 'yourselves'.

'You All Know', I never said it was "a game",
but deadly serious, that people DO HEED
GOD'S WORD.

Despite the 'worldly price' some may pay
for rejecting the doctrines of man, and
proclaiming The Living Word of The Creator.

Such as the many and cruel pains and injustices,
inflicted on me in the effort to cause me to reject
The Creator God, that, AS HE PROMISED, only
served to further strengthen my faith, and also
reveal more of what I needed to know, when God
needed me to know it.

Such as only knowing there are, 'those who know',
who God has 'hidden'. But because 'your spirits'
like 'being smart' and 'name dropping', that is what
'your' 'deaf ears' 'heard' me saying, and so assumed
that "I" was "threatening" 'you' with those 'hidden'
people, rather than remembering how often I warned
that Only God Truly Knows His Own, and understanding,
that's why my life lead me among those who religious
people, believe to be damned, to REMIND THEM that
we can all Chose God's Saving Grace, as He Takes
NO DELIGHT in the death of the wicked.

And it is for my commitment to calling All To Life,
that 'you legion' declared me "evil" and "promised"
to "KILL me".

Come on...remember when you first rang me,
and kept repeating, "YOU'RE TARGETED!"

Then hammered those, "Ballarat Police confirm...",
blah, bald faced lies, blah...

And all the stuff before, between and since,
like your attacks on my Eureka Melbourne
'point the way', posts, and attacks on me...

...and now The SHOVEL has become A SPADE...

So much...sounds just like MURDOCH has taken
Today's Front Page From Your Mouth and Finger tips.

Yeah, yours, cos see, I kept things that weren't already
in the public domain, general, but you and your mob,
just had to start "defending" Individuals, simply because
you imagined 'they' where somehow, 'targets' of mine.

Including those in 'your mobs' who's paths I've never crossed
and if I did know of their existence, have never come into mind.

Well, in a way I suppose everyone is a potential 'target'
of mine, in that I also made it clear, from the start, that,
ONLY GOD KNOWS OUR HEARTS, WHO ARE HIS OWN,
and WHAT HE HAS CALLED THEM TO.

Such as some being called to "correct" those
who chose to to reject God's warnings.


As I gratefully, continue to be corrected for my own errors,
and so, continue to be blessed with the blessings of an even
deeper faith in Our Loving Father's Faithful Promises.


EZEKIEL 3:17
Son 1121 of man 120,
I have made 5414 thee a watchman 6822
unto the house 1004 of Israel 3478:
therefore hear 8085 the word 1697
at my mouth 6310,

and give them warning 2094 from me.


WARNING:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/warning

THREAT:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/threat

There is a distinct difference, and while I cared to warn all,
'all of you', determined to threaten me...and carry some out!


And why? Because none of 'you' could offer any sound counter
to the real world facts that prove The Truth of God's Word that
DESCRIBED THIS WHOLE REAL WORLD, ALL THE EARTH and
ALL PEOPLES, FROM THE BEGINNING, long before the formation
of oxygen, when death entered His Living creation, and He
Graced us with a New System of things, that would allow us to
keep 'living' even though we are Dead.

As God also told us of another, new system of things coming,
when death, is put away, and so only those who don't reject
His Living Spirit can Keep LIVING.

No, 'you all' simply had to keep SHOVING THAT "out of Egypt"
LYING 'time line' DOWN THE WORLD'S THROAT and The One,
Global DEATH WORSHIPING RELIGION with it!


Yes, it has never been a "game" for me, nor anyone now discovering,
that we All Need to Chose, Who we Ultimately, Serve,
and that Only The Creator of Life, Can Ultimately, Save Our Lives.


Someone else used money: Thomson

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 053051-craig-thomson
Phillip Hudson
CRAIG Thomson
claimed to have "witness statements"
to prove he was not the person
using union money to pay for prostitutes.


Targeted: Spade thugs don't scare me: Jackson
Video: What the Thomson scandal means for Government


"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 226760-gatto
Prime Minister Julia Gillard has
banned Mick Gatto
from lunch at The Lodge
after he paid $10,000 for the privilege
at a charity auction.

The snub came almost immediately after Gatto won
an intimate meal with First Bloke Tim Mathieson.


$10,000 not enough
to get Mick Gatto a dinner date
with the First Bloke

Alice Coster
From:Herald Sun
August 27, 2011 12:00AM
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 166594-mick-gatto
Julia Gillard has banned Mick Gatto from lunch at the Lodge.
HWT Image Library

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has banned Mick Gatto
from lunch at The Lodge
after he paid $10,000 for the privilege at a charity auction.

The snub came almost immediately after the colourful Carlton identity
won an intimate meal with First Bloke Tim Mathieson at a charity auction.

Mr Gatto outbid his challengers at the Miss World pageant businessman's
lunch at city nightclub CQ, putting up $10,000 for four people to dine with
Ms Gillard's partner.

The decision to cancel the offer
came amid alarm at the political fallout
from Mr Gatto being at the PM's residence.

Mr Gatto said he had been looking forward to giving Ms Gillard some advice.
But a spokesman for Ms Gillard's office told the Herald Sun a letter would be written on Monday formally withdrawing the offer.
"Mr Mathieson will seek to support the charities concerned in an alternative way," he said.

Related Coverage
Gatto barred from Lodge Courier Mail, 8 hours ago
First man backs up beauties The Daily Telegraph, 13 Aug 2011
First bloke for auction at bikini pageant Herald Sun, 13 Aug 2011
Jack's the lad but Jerry's the pacemaker Herald Sun, 28 Jun 2011
Slow start for charitable Mick Gatto The Daily Telegraph, 23 Jun 2011

The impending date
couldn't have come at a worse time for Ms Gillard,
with her Government rocked by allegations
about an MP's union credit card
being used to pay for prostitutes.


Mr Gatto said he and mediation partner John Khoury put up the money
at the Miss World swimwear parade, which boasted a panel of celebrities
including the trouble-prone Wayne Carey, Brendan Fevola and Jeff Fenech.
"We have been told that Julia might come, so we might have
been able to give her some good advice, too,"
Mr Gatto said.

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse."


Mr Gatto said
he wanted to raise legalising drugs with the PM and
enforcing a mandatory first-aid test for licensed drivers.
"I wanted to tell her to legalise drugs; no demand, no supply," he said.


Lobby group GetUp recently paid $31,100 for dinner with the PM
at the Canberra press gallery's annual charity ball.
It is sending three gay couples to lobby Ms Gillard
to change her opposition to gay marriage.

costera@heraldsun.com.au


Spade thugs don't scare me:
Health Services Union secretary Kathy Jackson

Stephen Drill
From:Herald Sun
August 27, 2011 12:00AM

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 184184-kathy-jackson
Health Services Union secretary Kathy Jackson
outside her Balwyn home where a shovel was left.

Picture: Aaron Francis Herald Sun

A UNION boss spearheading the campaign against Craig Thomson has
told the "scumbags" who left a spade outside her door to "take their
best shot".

Health Services Union secretary Kathy Jackson
was home alone when she was terrorised
by unknown thugs at 3.30am yesterday.

Ms Jackson woke to loud noises at her Balwyn property
and discovered the spade on her doorstep,
which was seen as a veiled threat that
her enemies would bury her.


She said she would not be intimidated,
labelling whoever left the menacing message
as "scumbags", but said she would not back down.
"Give it your best shot.
Obviously people know where I live.
I'm not hiding from them;
I'm not going to lock myself away," she said.

Ms Jackson said she was being targeted
because she was a woman
in the male-dominated union world.

She declined an offer of police protection despite the threat.


Related Coverage
Union funds: Someone else used money: Thomson
Editorial: Gutless won't beat Kathy The Daily Telegraph, 3 hours ago
Financial records under Thomson missing Herald Sun, 7 hours ago
Threats won't silence union boss Adelaide Now, 9 hours ago
Labor puts lid on union revenge plots The Australian, 9 hours ago
Few winners inside Labor's dysfunction The Australian, 9 hours ago

The HSU has been at the centre of the Thomson scandal
threatening to topple the Gillard Government.
The furore is threatening to cost Mr Thomson his seat,
which could see the Government lose its majority.

Ms Jackson said she was a Labor Party member
and was not trying to bring down the Government.
She said the HSU national executive had voted unanimously
to pass on allegations against Mr Thomson to police
after fierce debate.


But Ms Jackson said her loyalty was to her members.

Victoria Police said it was investigating the spade incident
but no charges had been laid last night.
____________________________________________

ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top
That they may see 7200 , and know 3045 ,
and consider 7760 , and understand 7919 together 3162,
that the hand 3027 of the LORD 3068 hath done 6213 this,
and the Holy One 6918 of Israel 3478 hath created 1254 it.

Produce 7126 your cause 7379,
saith 559 the LORD 3068;
bring forth 5066 your strong 6110 [reasons],
saith 559 the King 4428 of Jacob 3290.

Let them bring [them] forth 5066 ,
and shew 5046 us what shall happen 7136 :
let them shew 5046 the former things 7223,
what they [be], that we may consider 7760 3820 them,
and know 3045 the latter end 319 of them;
or declare 8085 us things for to come 935 .

Shew 5046 the things that are to come 857 hereafter 268,
that we may know 3045 that ye [are] gods 430:
yea, do good 3190 , or do evil 7489 ,
that we may be dismayed 8159 ,
and behold 7200 [it] together 3162.

Behold, ye [are] of nothing 369,
and your work 6467 of nought 659:
an abomination 8441 [is he that] chooseth 977 you.


P.S. and don't do it, don't compound your errors
by wanting to believe that any of the people in
these latest news reports are in any way, 'my'
personal associates or targets. As all of it is simply,
reflective of the many things I've posted that God
Warned us to Watch for, and so See, Understand,
Repent, and LIVE!
true lilly wrote:So, what's new.

Nothing much.

It's just like the old,
"Dave's Not Here" barrage
of PHONE THREATS from years back...
left on voice-mail, in text,
from the same mob.

Well, nearly like, except 'Billy Ruben'
can't help but continue to list 'his'
vast range of supposedly unconnected
groups, that 'he' 'will send to get me'.

psst...I'm pretty sure you should get the O.K.
from ONE of them, then SHUT THE FCUK UP,
rather than tell me you don't know which of a
range of groups you will get to do the dirty for you,
especially when some rely on not being publicly
associated with the others.

Groups, I might add, that WELL KNOW how often
I have left them to sort their own shit, rather than,
kick up more, by pursuing redress for serious,
personal injustices.

And yes, they do range across those groups
one finds in the Main Stream, National News
covering 'The Thompson Saga'.

But going by the timing of 'Billy's' latest threat,
it seems it was reminding folk that, there are those
within the fields of Health, who do abuse their roles
for personal power, that set him off, again.
You know, 'those WOmen' I've always warned of,
who wear a mask of 'respectability', while they
destroy innocent lives for personal wants.

In fact, it was actually 'Billy Ruben' who chose to detail
how, 'someone' 'he' has now 'championed', does that
very evil, and laughed at me at how much more clever
they were than me, to do so.

Now, that the "SHOVEL" reference in that
Murdoch News Headline, is what caught my eye,
is also why I felt I should remind 'Billy/Jase' to
NOT GET PARANOID, but hey, if 'he/they' have to
list 'themselves' in the 'reason to fear' group...
...well, just goes to prove folk SHOULD read
what I SAY and MEAN, rather than 'their own'
inventions and imaginings...IF 'THEY' DON'T
want to PUBLICLY IMPLICATE 'THEMSELVES'.

So umm, 'Billy/Jason', I don't know if you are
even capable of understanding the fact,
that when the MAIN STREAM NEWS
covers MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS, that,
all over the country, in pubs, cafes,
in sports and social clubs and work places,
the Main Stream, General Public, do PUBLICLY
TALK ABOUT IT, and express all manner of opinions.

Yet, even despite my VERY CLEAR DISCLAIMER,
YOU, 'BILLY RUBEN' just HAD TO 'take it as'
a serious personal threat, rather than the warning it is,
for all all who can 'hear' to chose to answer and be Saved
by so doing ...while still, YOU are HIDING YOUR PERSON,
BUT LISTING THAT LIST of OTHER Groups.
Which clearly makes YOU, 'your mates' LIABILITY.
Not me. I am a nobody, other than 'that woman' who
can't shut up about The Creator of Life Revealing His,
most ancient Promises being kept. Yet you wish to
make me a martyr for that faith, and in doing so, a
'somebody' who's testimonies would gain accepted currency?

Oh, before I forget: It's an oldie,
the, 'is it a spade or shovel or a murder weapon,
that also disposes of the evidence', reference,
that I long ago and often used, AS A METAPHOR
for those on line trolls who 'spoke sweetly' while
shoveling shit to kill and bury those they failed
to verbally out thrust and parry with cutting wit.

And, highlighting that,
'the darker meaning of the shovel message'
even made the news as being investigated, was my,
perhaps too subtle, reminder to 'Billy's' 'mates', that
I DID RECENTLY WARN THEM that someone should
call the CAT Team as HE WAS SHOWING CLEAR SIGNS
of BECOMING a DANGER to HIMSELF AND OTHERS.

Again, not a threat, but a life line for more time to 'live',
to repent, and truly live. Why be so keen to fashion it
into a noose?

But, all that stuff & intrigue, is NOT what I'm about
or why I post. It is, quite simply, "THE GOD THING".
Don't let the like likes of the 'Billy Ruben's' make you
believe otherwise.

Right from the start I've made it clear that I KNOW
GOD EXISTS and KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES, including
that He calls out and raises INDIVIDUALS to their
INDIVIDUAL callings. And 'the accident of birth and life'
that this individual has lived, has been to make one
with the 'toughness' required to be a Faithful Witness
of God's Promises Kept, including the persecutions by
the beastly, of the faithful, and that though violently
cruel and cruelly unjust, it is by maintaining that faith,
that we can keep receiving God's Saving Grace...even
though 'they' may still kill our fleshly bodies, as it is,
our individual Spirit, that is preserved for our day of
'Perfect Accounting'.

And here, some more reminders of everyone's Free Will Choice
to answer God's Call, that I again, opened at and my eyes rested on,
when having prayed as to whether to post this reminder above;
that the devil and his legion have no power to defeat The Creator of Life,
or His Faithful, than I have to deny or cease from witnessing the proofs
His Holy Spirit of Truth Reveals, or warning, those with ears that hear.


Oh and PLEASE, go to the links and,
drink in every meaning of every Word.
They Are Very REVEALING!

JOEL 2:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Joe&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
“Blow a horn in Zion, O men, and shout a war cry in my holy mountain.
Let all the inhabitants of the land get agitated;
for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!

2
It is a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick gloom,
like light of dawn spread out upon the mountains.“There is a people
numerous and mighty; one like it has not been made to exist from the
indefinite past, and after it there will be none again to the years of generation
after generation.
3
Ahead of it a fire has devoured, and behind it a flame consumes.
Like the garden of E´den the land is ahead of it; but behind it is
a desolate wilderness, and there has also proved to be nothing thereof escaping.
4
“Its appearance is like the appearance of horses, and like steeds is the way
they keep running.
5
As with the sound of chariots on the tops of the mountains they keep
skipping about, as with the sound of a flaming fire that is devouring stubble.
It is like a mighty people, drawn up in battle order.
6
Because of it, peoples will be in severe pains. As for all faces,
they will certainly collect a glow [of excitement].
7
“Like powerful men they run. Like men of war they go up a wall.
And they go each one in his own ways, and they do not alter their paths.
8
And one another they do not shove. As an able-bodied man in his course,
they keep going; and should some fall even among the missiles, the [others]
do not break off course.
9
“Into the city they rush. On the wall they run. On the houses they go up.
Through the windows they go in like the thief.
10
Before it [the] land has become agitated, [the] heavens have rocked.
Sun and moon themselves have become dark, and the very stars have
withdrawn their brightness.
11
And Jehovah himself will certainly give forth his voice before his military force,
for his camp is very numerous. For he who is carrying out his word is mighty;
for the day of Jehovah is great and very fear-inspiring, and who can hold up under it?”
12
“And now also,” the utterance of Jehovah is,
“come back to me with all YOUR hearts, and with fasting and
with weeping and with wailing.
13
And rip apart YOUR hearts, and not YOUR garments; and come back
to Jehovah YOUR God, for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger
and abundant in loving-kindness, and he will certainly feel regret on
account of the calamity.

14
Who is there knowing whether he will turn back and actually feel regret
and let remain after it a blessing, a grain offering and a drink offering
for Jehovah YOUR God?
15
“Blow a horn in Zion, O men. Sanctify a time of fasting.
Call together a solemn assembly.
16
Gather [the] people together. Sanctify a congregation.
Collect [the] old men together. Gather children and those sucking the breasts
together. Let [the] bridegroom go forth from his interior room, and [the] bride
from her nuptial chamber.
17
“Between the porch and the altar let the priests, the ministers of Jehovah,
weep and say, ‘Do feel sorry, O Jehovah, for your people, and do not make
your inheritance a reproach, for nations to rule over them. Why should they
say among the peoples: “Where is their God?”’
18
And Jehovah will be zealous for his land and will show compassion upon his people.
19
And Jehovah will answer and say to his people, ‘Here I am sending to YOU
the grain and the new wine and the oil, and YOU people will certainly
be satisfied with it; and I shall not make YOU anymore a reproach among the nations.

20
And the northerner I shall put far away from upon YOU, and I shall actually
disperse him to a waterless land and desolated waste, with his face to
the eastern sea and his rear section to the western sea. And the stink from him
will certainly ascend, and the stench from him will keep ascending;
for He will actually do a great thing in what He does.’

21
“Do not be fearful, O ground. Be joyful and rejoice;
for Jehovah will actually do a great thing in what He does.

22
Do not be fearful, YOU beasts of the open field, for the pasture grounds
of [the] wilderness will certainly grow green. For the tree will actually
give its fruitage. The fig tree and the vine must give their vital energy.
23
And, YOU sons of Zion, be joyful and rejoice in Jehovah YOUR God;
for he will be bound to give YOU the autumn rain in right measure,
and he will bring down upon YOU people a downpour, autumn rain
and spring rain, as at the first.
24
And the threshing floors must be full of [cleansed] grain,
and the press vats must overflow with new wine and oil.
25
And I will make compensation to YOU for the years that the locust,
the creeping, unwinged locust, and the cockroach and the caterpillar
have eaten, my great military force that I have sent among YOU.
26
And YOU will certainly eat, eating and becoming satisfied,
and YOU will be bound to praise the name of Jehovah YOUR God,
who has done with YOU so wonderfully;
and my people will not be ashamed to time indefinite.

27
And YOU people will have to know that I am in the midst of Israel,
and that I am Jehovah YOUR God and there is no other.
And my people will not be ashamed to time indefinite.

28
“And after that it must occur that I shall pour out my spirit on every sort of flesh,
and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will certainly prophesy.
As for YOUR old men, dreams they will dream.
As for YOUR young men, visions they will see.
29
And even on the menservants and on the maidservants in those days
I shall pour out my spirit.
30
“And I will give portents in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire
and columns of smoke.
31
The sun itself will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,
before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah.
32
And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah
will get away safe; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will prove to be
the escaped ones, just as Jehovah has said, and in among the survivors,
whom Jehovah is calling.


HOSEA 14:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Hsa&c=14&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
“Do come back, O Israel, to Jehovah your God,
for you have stumbled in your error.

2
Take with yourselves words and come back to Jehovah.
Say to him, all YOU people, ‘May you pardon error;
and accept what is good, and we will offer in return
the young bulls of our lips.
3
As·syr´i·a itself will not save us. Upon horses we shall not ride.
And no more shall we say: “O our God!” to the work of our hands,
because it is by you that a fatherless boy is shown mercy.’
4
“I shall heal their unfaithfulness. I shall love them of [my] own free will,
because my anger has turned back from him.
5
I shall become like the dew to Israel. He will blossom like the lily,
and will strike his roots like Leb´a·non.
6
His twigs will go forth, and his dignity will become like that of the olive tree,
and his fragrance will be like that of Leb´a·non.
7
They will again be dwellers in his shadow. They will grow grain,
and will bud like the vine. His memorial will be like the wine of Leb´a·non.
8
“E´phra·im [will say], ‘What do I have to do any longer with the idols?’
“I myself shall certainly give an answer and I shall keep looking on him.
I am like a luxuriant juniper tree. From me must fruit for you be found.”
9
Who is wise, that he may understand these things?
Discreet, that he may know them? For the ways of Jehovah are upright,
and the righteous are the ones who will walk in them;
but the transgressors are the ones who will stumble in them.
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P.S. 'they' 'kicked me out' of the reply box,
before I could finish my edits, and I'm too tired now,
to re-check, so again, if something 'reads' 'wrong/bad/threatening'
before I can get back to fix it, it is 'their' intent, not my lack of care.

true lilly
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"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Empty Re: "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse."

Post  true lilly Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:57 pm

Seeing as this is the post that caused 'Billy Ruben' to
ring with his most dangerous threat yet, I know it should
be included in this new thread, that more completely,
covers the the issues in the topic:


true lilly wrote:NOTE: the news report in this post is for illustration purposes
of the Warnings I have consistently given to All.

If any of the named or directly associated individuals are in any way
directly connected to corrupt acts of the individuals from related fields
who have acted corruptly in doing me and mine great harm, and
denying me access to just and equitable redressing of those harms,
it's genuine news to me.

___________________________________________________

So, with 'Billy Ruben' SPAMMING this forum (and others),
with vicious, personal attacks against me, why haven't I
taken him off ignore, to challenge his lies?

The answer's in the question.

Besides which, 'his/their' floods of phone
and 'other messages', well and truly exceed
my allotted, daily time wasting time, as it is.

Yeah, 'Billy/Jason' can't stand not telling me of
the latest, meanest, filthiest lies 'he's' posted,
which btw, are absurdly contradictory in themselves,
and so, in effect, preclude any need for any defence.

See, 'they' forgot the first rule in 'character assassination';
START with a CREDIBLE Source.

And then, 'they' forgot my countless warnings of:
DON'T rely on 'intelligence' gathered by morons.

Or that of liars, traitors, secret agenda pushers,
self-serving wanna-be-own-gods-and-goddesses,
or any of that ilk, like GREENIES and "ONENESS"
touting 'peace' FREAKS too stone COLD to ever
burn with Righteous indignation, but BURNING with
HATEFUL RAGE at those who Are Grateful to God
for BOTH, healing joy AND healing tears; blessings
AND corrections.

Oh, and you most definitely should not "USE" sources
with so many 'skeletons and rotting corpses' in their
own closets, that you can smell them before you knock
on their front door...as they are more likely to add you
to their 'collection', as soon as things go fuji shaped...
they know pear shaped is too late....

So, then, with that in mind, are 'they' double/double agents?

Well, who in their right mind,
would not believe the total opposite,
of what is spewed
by Sources who choose
these avatar's to represent 'them'?


"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 9k="Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Image
'Billy Ruben' ... and ... 'cori'

....oops, it has gone pear shaped...
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Z

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." The-mentalist-season-two-poster_557

...what, you forgot how often I warned of
'those WOmen & men' who [NET]work in the
HEALTH and MEDICAL Industry...
... TOUCHING=HYPNOTIZING, 'medicating',
Accessing and
TRADING IN THE MOST PERSONAL FILES
of those targeted to be "touched" in
THE MOST DAMAGING WAYS?

true lilly wrote:it would be really nice if what I post Would appear AS I write and format it
first time, every time...
but that ain't gunna happen, is it....prob for the best....

...police have confirmed
a shovel
was placed outside the Melbourne home
of Health Services Union national secretary
Kathy Jackson.

Victoria Police
are investigating the incident,
with the shovel
believed to have been placed

at her front door
in the early hours

of Friday morning.


Shovel found as MP saga intensifies

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 392807-craig-thomson
Staff Reporters and AAP
UPDATE 4.31pm:
UNION chief who sent
MP claims to police
finds shovel outside home,

as doubts raised over
PM's office link to probe.

Craig Thomson focus turns to Julia Gillard's office
Staff Reporters and AAP
From:Herald Sun,
AAP

August 26, 2011
12:00AM


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Craig Thomson in Parliament yesterday.
Picture: Kym Smith The Daily Telegraph
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Julia Gillard and Craig Thomson in 2007.
Picture: Waide Maguire Herald Sun

UPDATE 4.31pm: JULIA Gillard today said it was "unremarkable" that
her chief of staff "checked a fact" over the Craig Thomson brothel
scandal.


The Prime Minister also accused Opposition Leader Tony Abbott of
trying to "bully authorities" over the issue and said he was motivated
by being upset he did not win the last election.


The Herald Sun revealed today the Julia Gillard's chief of staff personally rang the
industrial registrar in early 2009 - before fraud allegations were made
public - to ask if he was investigating Labor MP Craig Thomson.


Former industrial registrar Doug Williams last night confirmed he told Ben
Hubbard he was legally unable to provide any information about
investigations.


It comes as police have confirmed a shovel was
placed outside the Melbourne home of
Health Services Union national secretary
Kathy Jackson.


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Related Coverage

Accusations: Gillard fights back on scandal

Phillip Hudson: And the big mud pies fly
PM denies prior knowledge of furor The Daily Telegraph, 1 hour ago
Threat won't sway me: union chief The Australian, 2 hours ago

Abbott says PM has brothel answers Courier Mail, 2 hours ago

Doubts over PM pressure in MP probe Herald Sun, 3 hours ago

Blows traded over Thomson 'interference' The Australian, 4 hours ago


Victoria Police are investigating the incident, with the shovel
believed to have been placed at her front door in the early hours of
Friday morning.

The allegations raise questions about when Ms Gillard -
who was deputy prime minister and workplace relations minister
at the time - first learned about claims that Mr Thomson had stolen
Health Service Union funds to pay for prostitutes.


Ms Gillard rejected suggestions the call by her chief of staff Ben Hubbard proved
she knew about the allegations involving Mr Thomson and covered it up.


She said both her and Mr Hubbard did not remember the call because it was unremarkable.
"A COS checking a fact with a public servant is completely unremarkable."
She said the allegations had been published in 2009 by the Sydney Morning Herald.
Ms Gillard said her COS was checking facts but Mr Abbott and his team were trying to interfere.

Ms Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland were yesterday scathing
of shadow attorney-general Senator George Brandis, who revealed he
phoned NSW Police Minister Mike Gallacher before sending evidence about
Mr Thomson to NSW police commissioner Andrew Scipione.


Mr Abbott today demanded Ms Gillard detail what she knew
about the Thomson affair and when she knew it.


"I think she owes it to the public to tell us exactly what she knew, when
she knew it and what she did about it," Mr Abbott told the Nine Network.


"No doubt if she has a reasonable explanation the public will give her
credit for that, but she needs to give us her explanation."


It comes after Mr Abbott yesterday attacked the Prime Minister for not
asking Mr Thomson to make a statement to parliament on the issue.

Ms Gillard said addressing parliament was a matter for Mr Thomson.

Cabinet minister Tony Burke said there was nothing sinister in the staff member
making inquiries, and described the story as ridiculous.


"Lots of rumours go around Canberra, most of them are untrue, so a staff member
rings up a public servant and says we've heard there's an investigation
is this true, public servant says can't tell you. And that's the end of the matter,"
Mr Burke told the Seven Network.


Mr Thomson will probably face a police investigation into claims
he skimmed more than $150,000 from union accounts.


The Herald Sun can also reveal the HSU failed to pay $300,000 in ACTU fees while
Mr Thomson was alleged to have been defrauding his credit card.


Mr Williams, who retired as industrial registrar in December 2009, said he
took the phone call from Mr Hubbard "concerning inquiries I had initiated into
the Health Services Union".


"I observed that because of my independent statutory position as industrial registrar I
was not in a position to provide any information," he said.

The allegations Mr Thomson used union funds
to pay for prostitutes and other
personal items
were first published in April 2009.


Mr Williams is believed to have
begun inquiries into the HSU's
Victorian branch in 2008

before widening the probe
to the National Office.


A spokesman for the Prime Minister said: "There is regular communication
between ministerial chiefs of staff and senior public servants to
confirm facts. Mr Hubbard has no specific recall of the conversation."


An ACTU spokesman confirmed the HSU has now paid back its debts.

- with Philip Hudson, Steve Lewis, Andrew Clennell and AAP

__________________________________________

It's an oldie...

you can call a spade, a spade
...a shovel, a shovel...or...
...both...

...a murder weapon...

...that also disposes of the evidence...


P.S. .....................................................................................................................
.....................ah!forgedabowdet.............................................. Razz

...oh O.K., I suppose I do have to remind some...
LOTS of "EX" (for all sorts of reasons)
HEALTH (and Related Fields) Professionals and Staff
'work' and NETwork in HEALTH SERVICES UNIONS.
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Post  Billy Ruben Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:12 pm

jam it and your spam up your arse...
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"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Empty How Fairfax tells it...today's Sydney Morning Herald:

Post  true lilly Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:55 pm

Factional brawl could sink GillardNick O'Malley and Phillip Coorey
August 27, 2011

The Craig Thomson affair began in a
factional brawl but could bring down a government, write Nick O'Malley
and Phillip Coorey.

When the parliamentary bells summoned MPs to Question
Time at 1.55pm on Thursday, Labor members trudged towards the House of
Representatives resigned and demoralised. ''I really hope the sex was
good,'' muttered one minister.

The allegations that MP Craig Thomson had spent union
money on prostitutes while national secretary of the Health Services
Union had pushed the Gillard government to the brink.

''She told us it would be bad, not this bad, but bad,''
another minister said on Tuesday as the latest Newspoll confirmed the
government's primary vote to be mired below 30 per cent.

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At the centre of the mire ... MP Craig Thomson. Photo: Andrew Meares
It wasn't supposed to be like this.

In February, Gillard told her cabinet it was going to be
an extremely difficult next six to eight months because of contentious
policy challenges, starting with the imminent announcement of the carbon
tax.

Against the odds, however, the government had a
reasonable five-week winter recess, a chance to get its breath. The
indefatigable Tony Abbott had gone overseas and MPs reported the carbon
tax issue was losing its sting. Even if voters still opposed it, they
seemed less obsessed, less angry.

The government used the break to focus on traditional Labor policy areas - health, the disabled, aged care.

Gillard's personal numbers improved in the latest Herald/Nielsen poll, published a week before the August 21 anniversary of last year's federal election.

They were significant shifts, albeit coming off a low
base, and Labor's primary vote, at 28 per cent, was 10 percentage points
lower than at the election.

It wasn't much, but for a battered government it was
important. There was hope. When you are this far down in politics, you
seize on anything.

Then, suddenly, allegations first revealed in the Herald two years ago resurfaced and sparked a frenzy of reporting that began sucking the life out of the government.

THE Thomson affair doesn't begin with the 2009 newspaper
stories, nor really even with Thomson's alleged extravagances between
2002 and 2007, but in a bitter factional war within the right wing of
the Victorian branch of the Labor Party.

And you thought the NSW mob were bad.

Thomson, a former assistant secretary of the Health and
Research Employees Association of NSW, was elected national secretary of
the HSU in 2002.

It was a tough gig. Even by union standards the HSU was
hopelessly fractured and factionalised. It had a string of state-based
branches - four in Victoria alone - which barely tolerated a national
executive.

Much of the energy and resources it should have been
devoting to the 77,000 hospital clerks, orderlies and cleaners it
represented were dissipated in its Byzantine structure and the intrigues
it fostered.

Thomson set to work unifying and rebranding the union
and, according to some who worked closely with him, he enjoyed
considerable success. The union became a more effective lobbying
machine.

But the power struggle at its core never waned.

At the HSU's head office in Victoria, Thomson shared
office space with Jeff and Kathy Jackson, a pair who though divorced
remained political allies, determined to seize and hold control of the
powerful Victorian No. 1 branch for their right-wing faction.

Thomson might have known he was heading into murky water.
As far back as 1998 it had been reported that the then secretary,
left-winger Jan Armstrong, had been accused by Jeff Jackson, the union's
national liaison officer, of misusing union funds and financial
mismanagement. She denied the allegations.

In 2007 Thomson left the union and returned to NSW to
contest and win the federal seat of Dobell on the state's mid north
coast. The following year the power struggle in the union turned mean
and public.

In November 2008 HSU president Pauline Fegan was
suspended, accused of bullying by Jeff Jackson, by then Victorian
secretary. According to a consultant's report she had engaged in
''bullying, intimidation and manipulative behaviour'', which could lead
to WorkCover claims, and had even ''locked people in cupboards and
little rooms''.

The allegations kept flying.

In 2009 Jeff Jackson was forced out, charged under union
rules with misappropriation of members' money, gross misbehaviour and
neglect of duty. The Age reported on April 2 that Jackson was
accused of spending union money on prostitutes. Though he denied the
allegation, he repaid the union $15,000. The settlement documents that
detail Jackson's repayment schedule make no mention of prostitutes.

Jackson said he was the victim of ''a very dirty
political campaign'', pointing the finger back at Fegan, who was found
by an external auditor to have spent $147,000 of union money on
promotional goods sold by a company owned by her partner, Phillip Grima.
She denied the spending was improper.

Just six days after these revelations, the Herald
broke the story that during his years as national secretary Thomson's
HSU credit card had been used to withdraw $101,533, and to pay for
prostitutes, restaurants, bars and other personal items.

On the day of an HSU national executive meeting in
Sydney, nearly $2500 was charged against Thomson's credit card. Thomson
denied all the allegations.

Whether it is true, many in Labor circles believe that
the dossier on Thomson was leaked by Jeff's former wife, Kathy. Kathy
Jackson is now national secretary of the HSU and controls four merged
east coast branches along with Mike Williamson, the national president
and a Thomson ally. It is understood to be a relationship of
convenience.

Williamson is also a former national president of the ALP.

One theory has it that Kathy went public with the
information in order to force mass resignations, paving the way for a
return to office of her former husband. Ms Jackson did not return calls.

According to one senior HSU figure, the spending on
Thomson's card would have been revealed as a matter of course, because
over the years outgoing secretaries had left the union's finances in
such a parlous state that the branches had insisted on audits being done
at the end of each term.

Either way Kathy Jackson ordered an investigation of
Thomson's spending and eventually referred the matter to the Workplace
Ombudsman, now known as Fair Work Australia. She wasn't to know her
actions would precipitate such a political maelstrom.

This week, under intense pressure, she handed the dossier
to NSW police, casting herself as staunch defender of the interests of
ordinary union members.

Thomson maintained his denials and launched a quickly aborted defamation action against the Herald.
The move proved to be a disaster for Labor because it unearthed a ream
of material that would otherwise have stayed buried; it breathed new
life into the story.

Worse, he was unable to cover his legal bills. It has
since been reported that the ALP's NSW head office assisted him because
Thomson would have been bankrupted and automatically excluded from
political office, bringing on a by-election Labor couldn't win.

The government's very existence was on the line. For
reasons of Labor's political survival, Thomson couldn't resign and
Gillard couldn't sack him.

The former Labor powerbroker, Graham Richardson, says it
should never have gone so far. In February 2009, Richardson tells
people, he made a few inquiries and told Thomson to drop the lawsuit
immediately.

But there were more political bungles. Many in the party are furious that Thomson won preselection for Dobell despite the Herald's allegations. Other candidates, such as the former soldier David Mehan, wanted the seat.

Richardson and John Della Bosca - the former ALP
strongman and state minister, and husband of Belinda Neal - are believed
to have pushed for Thomson to go.

But the NSW Right stuck with their man, spending their
political energy ensuring Belinda Neal - a controversial figure but one
accused of little more than being herself - was ousted from the
neighbouring seat of Robertson.

In the short term, it seemed they made the right call. As
Labor seats tumbled around the country at last year's election,
Thompson strengthened his hold on Dobell and Labor retained Robertson
without Neal.

The Prime Minister wasn't to know it then, but Thomson's victory would bring with it a terrible political canker.

Four months after the election, the Herald
published material its lawyers had uncovered during the defamation
proceedings which directly challenged Thomson's claims about someone
else using his credit card at brothels.

Thomson continued to tell people he was innocent and
right up until April - when he dropped the defamation action - he was
telling colleagues and ministers he had won the case against Fairfax
Media.

''He looked me in the eye and told me he won,'' a minister said.

Publicly Thomson stood by his vague denials. Someone else could have used the card, he suggested, prompting the Herald to reveal that calls to brothels had been made from phones in hotel bedrooms hired in his name.

He mentioned that in Victoria another official had repaid
thousands of dollars to the union after claims of spending money in
brothels, an apparent bid to conflate allegations against him with those
made against Jeff Jackson.

DIGGING by the Liberal frontbencher, Michael Ronaldson, largely kept the issue alive.

On June 15, in a little-noticed Senate speech, Ronaldson
said an innocent Thomson would not have dropped the case. He demanded
Gillard publicly refute the allegations against Thomson or ''immediately
sack Mr Thomson''.

Acutely aware that Thomson's collapse would end the
government, the story has been attacked by every media outlet that
covers federal politics.

In the face of almost daily revelations about Thomson's
alleged spending, the HSU bowed to pressure this week to refer the
matter to police, prompting fury from some in Labor circles.

Early indications from within the fraud squad suggest he
may never be charged with anything. Since the HSU apparently issued
Thomson with a credit card but no instruction on its use, it's possible
no crime has been committed.

So it here rests. To maintain government, Gillard must
daily trash her credibility by mouthing empty support for her crippled
MP. The Labor rank and file and members of affiliated unions have footed
his legal bill. The HSU must co-operate with a police investigation
that, if successful, will destroy the government. Craig Thomson can now
serve the party he has damaged so badly only by fronting up to the
humiliation daily.

The biggest losers are the men and women doing hard dirty
work for low pay in hospitals and aged care facilities who seem to have
paid for the whole ugly farce.

And for the Coalition, Thomson is the gift that keeps on giving.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/factional-brawl-could-sink-gillard-20110826-1jebw.html#ixzz1WCamLIQs
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Post  true lilly Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:13 am

Talk about spades and shovels...
...and turning LIFE Lines into a noose...

true lilly wrote:Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?

conspiracy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

collusion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/collusion

Learn some basic English.

Before MORE of YOUR "mates" REALIZE YOU ARE OUTING THEM.
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:37 am

true lilly wrote:Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?
Billy Ruben wrote:...No please,do go on... popcorn
Billy Ruben wrote:...well,despite all my efforts,you survived the 26th of August 2011...but please,enthrall me with your side of the story...

thumbs up popcorn
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Guess what 'billy'...they are NOT mutually exclusive. Rolling Eyes

In fact, I only recently had to throw a person out of my house,
(who get's on ever so well with the EX),
for directly threatening me with his Dutch Biker contacts.

Do you want me to elaborate further,
or shall we leave them to sort their own shit to?

conspiracy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

collusion
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/collusion

Learn some basic English.

Before MORE of YOUR "mates" REALIZE YOU ARE OUTING THEM.
Billy Ruben wrote:look,you offered your side,now you piked out,spit it out or go f*ck yourself... thumbs down

I'll show you mine,IF,you show me yours first thumbs up
True Lilly wrote:
Actually, from only a quick scroll down this page,
I'd say someone wanted you to show your instability,
and readiness to put your own hurt pride, above the
security of your 'mates'.

'Sifting and sorting', does go on in all camps, you know,
or is that concept above your comprehension to?




See,what is there the use of discussion or debate with her,just let her spam away to the wall and let her fudge the numbers so it looks like she pulls interest...she only waste her time,her money for broadband,her life on futility...thankyou for your time and patronage...Can't stand a bar of her anymore...

thumbs up wave cheers cheese
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Post  true lilly Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:00 am

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 211709-wildlife



I'm no chattering monkey twittering orders,
to the twittering masses of the delusional and
envious, to destroy civil society.


This is a Qinling
golden snub-nosed monkey.

Yes, we want a pet one too.

But since there
are only a few thousand left in the wild,

we'll need to appreciate it in
photos

like this entry in the Wildlife Photographer of the Year 2011.

Picture: Cyril Ruoso
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"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 211709-wildlife

I'm no chattering monkey twittering orders,
to the twittering masses of the delusional and
envious, to destroy civil society.

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 468745-wildlife-photographer-of-the-year-2011
...still reading my emails, are "you"?
"you" aren't the only ones...
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 469468-wildlife-photographer-of-the-year-2011"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 449107794
QUOTE "TINTIN":
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2535
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Arbeitsteppich
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Getimage

Overview

Herge's Tintin cartoon adventures have been translated into
more than fifty languages
and read by tens of millions of children aged,
as their publishers like to say, 'from 7 to 77'. Arguing that their
characters are as strong and their plots as complex as any dreamt up by
the great
novelists, Tom McCarthy asks a simple question: is Tintin
literature? McCarthy takes a cue from Tintin himself, who spends much of
his time tracking down illicit radio signals, entering crypts and
decoding puzzles
and suggests that we too need to 'tune in' and decode
if we want to capture what's going on
in Herge's work. What emerges is a
remarkable story of hushed-up royal descent in both Herge's work and
his own family history.
McCarthy shows how the themes this story
generates - expulsion from home, violation of the sacred, the host-guest
relationship turned sour and anxieties around questions of forgery and
fakeness
- are the same that have fuelled and troubled writers from the
classical era to the present day. His startling conclusion is that
Tintin's ultimate 'secret' is that.....

of literature itself. Appearing on
the eve of the release of a major Steven Spielberg Tintin film, Tintin
and the Secret of Literature should be avidly devoured by not only
Tintin lovers but also by anyone with an interest in literature,
philosophy or art.


"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." TINTIN_TRON

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Tintintehran

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Tintin-shotfirst

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Tintin-artwork

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 4835318962_fe406ddfd8

gilly wrote:




Originally Posted by grachtengordel
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Viewpost


tintin is a nasty little vermin.

he should be sued for promoting faggotry.





Just clarify that you're referring to the cartoon, please - not the member!
No, THE MEMBER:
tintin wrote:
At some point he was ready to start WW III.....

"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Tusquiz_haddock

He was ready to bomb Israel!!
Tintin Sued for Racism - Page 4 - David Icke's Official Forums
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Post  Billy Ruben Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:47 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/why-no-reviews-of-david-icke-preaching-in-melbourne-oct-2011-t2123-30.html

David Vincent wrote:
true lilly wrote:Seems 'some' need a little more context to understand
the great hole 'they' have dug 'themselves' into...with a lot
of 'help' from 'their' 'friends'.

Re: IT BEGINS....
https://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1612p15-it-begins#26452
Post true lilly Today at 12:17 am


ROFLMAO rolf rolf rolf rolf

And the best part about that thread,is your "second death" that you threaten others with and boast about,isn't Judaic Old Testament,the thieves that they were,but based on The Mystery Schools of Egypt.

So you subscribe,to the very thing you hate

it's all...From Out Of Egypt....LULZ

Welcome to the family Suzy Ryan,take good care of you now.
Razz Very Happy


You spam,so shall I...

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
And, "you" are NOTHING.



Sure about that?!?!?!?!

Billy Ruben wrote:Do the right thing and seek not recognition for those deeds,it will be noted as a spiritual aspect for after death,then,maybe a fruiter like you can keep something of themselves as the ego layer is stripped away and fed to MAAT the reptilian,leaving you as a clear virgin shell of consciousness and soul.Have a nice day...

thumbs down



The lies,slander,conspiracies,the games,the cruelty you have displayed to people and animals...you think there's something worth of you sparing...I already know you're the walking dead,like 90% of the human trash that filth this planet.I just vainly try and warn those,what the real second death is....The joke's on you,Suzy Ryan,Gods Anointed Spammer...

wacky dizzy

Ammut (aka Ammit, Ammet, Amemet)

She waited in the throne room often hidden as the judges of the Egyptian dead weighed the hearts of the deceased. Evil folk's hearts would become her next snack. Their souls were the main course. This was a second death, as being barred from the afterlife the soul was doomed to wander forever over the earth. Ammut is part lioness, hippo, and crocodile. She is also called the Bone Eater and Devourer of Millions. She is a most holy being as she alone could thusly bar the evil from entering the afterlife.


"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Deusammut"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Maat2"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Maat1018

sonic

Ahhh,excellent insights there Mr Ruben,if I say so myself,would'nt you agree True Lilly,you do,but you just don't realise it...

lol! popcorn


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
And there's 'Billy Ruben' with 'his'
months of death threats that specify such methods,
and associating himself with bad cops, health unionists,
biker groups, and really bad dudes...which you would right off,
as an attention seeking nutter...but for the at least
3 different phones 'he' uses, and, the others who know of,
and approve of 'his' death threats
, and the very specific
associations 'he' brags of, that make 'him' believe
'he's' 'untouchable'
enough to keep getting away with it.

...and then of course, there are
the 2 Car Bombs I've already survived...
and the other attacks by really bad dudes, etc...

and 'Jason/Billy Ruben's' dangerously erratic and
volatile behaviour that makes 'him' a liability to
'friends', 'associates' and
anyone 'he' 'perceives'
as a 'foe'.
Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes


We've all been through this.
Two months ago,when I got sick of True Lillys',baseless,groundless,slander and lies,against everyone whom she finds dis-pleasure with,ie,anybody who does'nt unquestioning believe,who littany of lies.
Frustrated to the point of doing something stupid,I decided to take my chances with Ballarat Police,close to where Suzy lives,she being the "BUM" part of town,Wendouree West,known for its bakeries and cock gobbling glory holes of Hollioke Park.
...I have the phone bill here to prove I rang on a Saturday.
Anyway,not expecting to get anywhere,especially,if I gave away my relationship with NSW Police,to be rather strained at best.
I was surprised to have my queries answered by a very professional and seasoned officer,who knew the law and history of Victoria and Ballarat.
...After describing my complaint,being accused as a babyfucker and goat abuser and so has many others by this nutter.I mentioned Suzy's ex-husband,Bill Ryan,a serving member?,remember,this is Suzy data,it could be made up at the bottom of a Gin bottle.

BAck in a minute...
The officer then took an interest and began looking for this Bill Ryan.I said to the officer,she'd be easy to remember,her car was blown up by bombing in her driveway and herself has been beaten up twice and put in a hospital.I could hear the keyboard,thumping away in the background,he's researching the data as I speak.He had a chuckle and said,there has'nt been a car-bombing in the state of Victoria for 30 years and that was the Russell St bombing.
...The officer,whose name I'll keep secret until Suzy Ryan,True Lilly/Vera Susa wants to reveal more or challenge this,said she can't be charged the way the laws stand now,but that may differ in the near future.

That sad little tale,that Suzy Ryan/True Lilly made up,lied about,she has been milking the public and friends for years,whether it's money,computers or a lift down the street,True Lilly has been profiting off her lies for many years now,off the good will of her readers.
She continues with her lies,cause they serve her well.I exposed her for this and hopefully,slowly,others catch on.She even plays this on her own family,and she abandoned them,in favour of delivering Gods Saving Word,her schizoid spam,even over the love of her children.Still think she's not a threat,guess again,she's a dangerous,manipulative,game-playing,conspiring schizoid,who fooled many of you with her old lady act.
She isn't nice,frail or alone.She's very well connected.She's a liar,slanderer,extortionist,is this the quality of character,that one should have to advocate God for you?
Nutter extraordinaire...But wait,there's more,WOOF,WOOF...


rolling pin dogshag butt Razz

Now see her above post,it still contains the lies that she's trying to utilize to build another fantasy,completely crackers,but then again,it's the only game she has in town,as the management said,it's what she does,well,I don't have to tolerate it,her or her lying crap.

Billy Ruben wrote:...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...



Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.


How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

cthulhu cthulhu

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER


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Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off... "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 970510
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 888898...
... or you could simply "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 993177 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 252310in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, "Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 993177to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...


Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.


DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...


Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?


From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben
"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." 993177

your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after
, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.


Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...


"Like how to stay in power. Give an offer they can't refuse." Semailr


the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.


Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...


Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

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Billy Ruben wrote:
Hi shitbag scumbucket.Cause you were spiteful spamming unrelate crap this morning and my little modem packed in,I just had a friend/connection replace modem,line filter,all chords and Now I'm going to be a bastard and spam the fuck out of this place.Sod was warned and he can't do shit about it,so suck my dick you dog raping,child porn freak...and you admitted you have child porn and JD John Drake/Droike plays moral card one day and defends a known and self confessed pervert the next day.Enjoy the Federal Police babe,cause they're next babe...FUCK YOU BITCH !!!!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

Billy Ruben wrote:
I was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5 days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I love you.

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And when you decide to take a long stroll or go shopping,it's best to have every time-table for buses and trains,like I did.I escaped and went home for bongs,sex and real food.And a shower I did'nt need to wear footwear in.Seeing this horrible old 70 year old,squashing a shit down the drain hole of the shower.I was disgusted.Lock your shower door,or the fat brunette,who offered me free rent and a share in her house,came running in,sucking on my flaccid penis,the shampoo,blinding me at the very right second,almost,comical.I was scared of her.And always knock,before you enter any room,this horrible looking man,said I'm the Butterfly,just as hs started to ejaculate all over the back of the door from fast and furious wanking...be warned.It's gonna be fun.

cthulhu lmao


Billy Ruben wrote:Keep credit cards,ATM savings cards and all electronic ways of getting money,home,or hidden in your pants.They usually keep it in a safe and only allow you $15 a day back in 2002.Do not wear jewellery,rings,wedding or any sort.Keep valuables at home,or safety deposit box.




Billy Ruben wrote:
and keep your stupid fucking beliefs to yourself,OK...





Billy Ruben wrote:There is a forum admin here,named Sod/Julian.He's over 35,looks like a demonic version of Sting,Pommy (English),loves a night on the booze and drugs,which on average,makes him a lazy bastard.Like most western men are.Spoilt fuckin' rotten I say.But he'll find his runners,when he's conscripted for Asian battlefields,soon enough.I mean,if the bastard could use an iron lung to assist breathing,he would.It means,he hardly ever moderates,bit picky on who he answers PM's,real bitch.

However,there is a very skilled,rather energetic,smart and sassy,unbiased world wide women here,named Tiswas.

She's spiritual,understanding,gives good debates and I believe,quite unbiased in all matters concerning Icke.Offers the olive branch to those who foolishly,troll and attempt to sway her to the dark side.

This rare lady of light,with all her wisdom and knowledge,would be a great assett to the forums administration and I believe she is the answer to cleaning up the spam wars we have here,for which I trully,hand on heart apologise for my own involvement.

I hope the current admin,the one who needs a iron lung to breathe,maybe consider this idea as one of the few rare instances that I could conceive,that has a small amount of merit.

If anyone feels the idea should be lobbied to our admin,please raise your concerns here.

Thankyou to the forum for your time and consideration,yours sincerely,Billy Ruben.


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Billy Ruben wrote:I am sure,in the name of freedom of speech,that Droike,Marpat and True Lilly,their futures would be safe,in the hands of Tiswas.

Not so with Mr Ruben,who would Nazi there arses and relegate them to a new sub-forum,called The Gas Chamber.

Be lucky,that true lights like Tiswas exist.

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