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Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:39 pm

This is NOT a 'typo' of 'tintin's',
that I've highlighted here:


TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.


Richard Wagner

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.
__________________________________________________________________

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK has not 'died'.
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was BORN 96 years
AFTER RICHARD WAGNER

32 years, 5 months, 9 days after

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was born,
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK, KILLED...8 + 69 = 77...
or so we are now, officially told...but "tintin" ALWAYS IGNORES
ALL NUMBERS and DATES that DON'T SUIT the CODED ORDERS
HE SENDS AT THE TIME..and, "tintin" CODES 'speak to' different
people, at different 'levels'...the simple messages, to the simple,
'dumb bunnies', 'raised' to be sacrificed, with the computer code,
behind the simple public posts, for those he doesn't want dead, YET.

...and in this post,
"TINTIN" IS CALLING "CELLS" of his,
("dumb bunny", bitterly waiting to stop pretending,
that they 'love' the men they 'got in with'),
WOmen to KILL...

(full post at link;#29876)

tintin wrote: 30-07-2011, 07:10 PM#29876


Playboy Rabbit Hole


We are in the year of the RABBIT and that's the RABBI link
to ISRAEL and to the RABBIT HOLE and UTOYA is in HOLE municipality.

TRISTAN was the killer in ALPHEN.



Wagner

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.





Richard Wagner


ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.

WAGNER died on 13 FEBRUARY 1883 in CA' VENDRAMIN in VENICE.


Ca' Vendramin: Casino

Ca' Vendramin is the CASINO of VENICE.

The CASINO ROYALE link to NORWAY.

...and I must trust God,
has called those who need to know,
to protect themselves from such WOmen.
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Re: David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:09 pm

[quote="true lilly"]
true lilly wrote:This is NOT a 'typo' of 'tintin's',
that I've highlighted here:


TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.


Richard Wagner

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.
__________________________________________________________________

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK has not 'died'.
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was BORN 96 years
AFTER RICHARD WAGNER

32 years, 5 months, 9 days after

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was born,
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK, KILLED...8 + 69 = 77...
or so we are now, officially told...but
"tintin" ALWAYS IGNORES
ALL NUMBERS and DATES that DON'T SUIT
the CODED ORDERS HE SENDS AT THE TIME...
and, "tintin" CODES 'speak to' different
people, at different 'levels'

...the simple messages, to the simple,
'dumb bunnies', 'raised' to be sacrificed, with the computer code,
behind the simple public posts, for those he doesn't want dead, YET.

...and in this post,
"TINTIN" IS CALLING "CELLS" of his,
("dumb bunny", bitterly waiting to stop pretending,
that they 'love' the men they 'got in with'),
WOmen to KILL...

(full post at link;#29876)

tintin wrote: 30-07-2011, 07:10 PM#29876


Playboy Rabbit Hole


We are in the year of the RABBIT and that's the RABBI link
to ISRAEL and to the RABBIT HOLE and UTOYA is in HOLE municipality.

TRISTAN was the killer in ALPHEN.



Wagner

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.





Richard Wagner


ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.

WAGNER died on 13 FEBRUARY 1883 in CA' VENDRAMIN in VENICE.


Ca' Vendramin: Casino

Ca' Vendramin is the CASINO of VENICE.

The CASINO ROYALE link to NORWAY.

...and I must trust God,
has called those who need to know,
to protect themselves from such WOmen.
BLESSED AGAIN...by The Faithful
having learned to "Read"
'David Icke's'=Team TINTIN/CORI's
CODED TERRORIST PLOTS...


Train driver averts rail disaster


1:45PM
Nick Leys


A TRAIN carrying at least 300 passengers

avoided disaster when the driver managed to stop
just 20m short of a break in the track.


Train driver averts disaster
after pulling up 20m from break in track


By Nick Leys
From:
Herald Sun

August 01, 2011
1:59PM

AN interstate train
carrying at least 300 passengers
narrowly avoided disaster
thanks to a fast-acting driver
who managed to stop the train
just twenty metres short of a break
in the track.

Three investigations into the incident are now underway
to determine why the Melbourne to Sydney V-Line train
was incorrectly routed onto a track undergoing maintenance.

V-Line passenger train 8615

was one and a half kilometres north of Seymour
and travelling at about 80 km/h

when the driver saw a maintenance vehicle ahead
and applied the breaks coming to a standstill
just before
the
two metre break in the track.

The train then reversed back into Seymour.

The Rail, Tram and Bus Union's Mark Marotta said
the train would not have been able to stop
if it had been travelling at full speed.


"It wouldn't have stopped.
People would have lost their lives,''
he said.
The driver and maintenance crew
are understood to be badly shaken by the incident.

A spokesman for Australian Rail Track Corporation,
who operate the track, said they acknowledge
the criticality and seriousness of the incident
and have initiated a full internal investigation.


"The Victorian Office of the Chief Investigator
has also advised that they will be conducting
an independent inquiry
into the incident.

"Additionally Transport Safety Victoria
will also be conducting
their own investigation/compliance audit
into this incident.''




Now as "tintin", WHO:
STATES that AUSTRALIA IS THE LAND
GOD PRESERVED for
HIS RE-GATHERED FAITHFUL;
CLAIMS TO "BE christ",
(But NOT 'THE PERFECT'
RESURRECTED SON of GOD),
also then BANNED POSTS on ANYTHING
ACTUALLY TO BE FOUND IN GOD'S WORD...


true lilly wrote:
A thinking person has to ask...






"CORI" says...again and again...



that "CORI" WANTS 99.9% of ALL HUMAN BEINGS DEAD...

...oh, and that
"I" am "evil", FOR WARNING THE WORLD

about THE "CORI'S" PRETENDING to be their 'friends' Rolling Eyes



The Very Best News Ever!
That God Exists and Keeps All His Promises!



JEREMIAH 50:
1
The word that Jehovah spoke
concerning Babylon,
concerning the land of the Chal·de´ans,
by means of Jeremiah the prophet:

2
“Tell [it] among the nations and publish [it].
And lift up a signal; publish [it].

Hide nothing, O men....

4
“In those days and at that time,”

is the utterance of Jehovah,
“the sons of Israel,
they and the sons of Judah together,
will come.
They will walk,
weeping as they walk,
and
for Jehovah their God they will seek.


5
To Zion they will keep asking the way,

with their faces in that direction, [saying,]
‘Come and let us join ourselves to Jehovah
in an indefinitely lasting covenant that
will not be forgotten.’

6
A flock of perishing creatures
my people has
become.
Their own shepherds

have caused them to wander about.

On the mountains they have led them away.
From mountain to hill they have gone.
They have forgotten their resting-place. [/size]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=50&v=1&t=KJV#top

...and I strongly suggest you bother to
study every word...remembering, that
I don't, 'go looking for bits' of 'the bible',
to 'justify' denying God's Word to sell
yet another of man's religions...I pray,
in faith, for His Advice,
and bingo!, of
All the Topics Under The Sun, covered
In His Word, it's the topic I'm writing on,
that the pages open, and my eyes see.
Oh, and lets not forget that
like CONspiracy forums and WIKIleaks,
WIKIpedia is a CODE SOURCE of the
"tintin/Assange"=BREIVIK's
of the world...
and so, note...on, 1-8-2011


Today's featured picture


The flower of an Isophysis tasmanica plant, the only member of the Isophysis genus in the iris family. The plant is endemic to the mountains of Western Tasmania, growing in heathland on sandy soils. It has grass-like foliage and star-like dark red-purple or yellow flowers with reflexed tepals, as well as a characteristic superior ovary, which distinguishes it from other Iridaceae.

Photo: JJ Harrison

Recently featured: Sand storm crossing the Red Sea – Kingswear, England – Ursus C-451 tractor

...AFTER my earlier WARNING Post, on 28-7-2011...
http://sodlikeproductions.forumotion.com/t1122p60-terrorist-and-other-coded-posts-on-david-icke-forum


true lilly wrote:Remember, it isn't only The Enemy=Team Tintin/Assange et al
watching every keystroke, and it isn't the average citizen who
needs to know the plots and counter plots, so deleting my posts
that show Team Tintin to be the enemy, doesn't matter, in fact,
it only serves to highlight what tintin wishes he didn't let slip.

So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...


...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying
his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...


tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.
(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)


And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.


Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.


Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.


It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.



The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?



Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.


Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.


He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.


the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.

but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.


So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),

From The Beginning.


And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE"
in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.


Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS,
to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

  • Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward

  • From:
    News Limited newspapers

  • July 28, 2011
    12:00AM

  • 17 comments


Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.

It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies"
surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .

"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage

  • Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube Perth Now, 2 hours ago
  • Lady Gaga in YouTube copyright spat Herald Sun, 14 Jul 2011
  • Woman charged over State of Origin pee Herald Sun, 13 Jul 2011
  • Officer who sprayed boy to be charged Herald Sun, 22 Jun 2011
  • Horrific footage of Iranian jet crash Adelaide Now, 6 Jun 2011

"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:


Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit

October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander
and Princess Maxima.


Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.


"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our
attractions.


"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name
and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed
on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.

©️ 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.


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Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:47 pm

BLESSED AGAIN...by The Faithful
having learned to "Read"
'David Icke's'=Team TINTIN/CORI's
CODED TERRORIST PLOTS...


Train driver averts rail disaster


1:45PM
Nick Leys


A TRAIN carrying at least 300 passengers

avoided disaster when the driver managed to stop
just 20m short of a break in the track.


Train driver averts disaster
after pulling up 20m from break in track


By Nick Leys
From:
Herald Sun

August 01, 2011
1:59PM

AN interstate train
carrying at least 300 passengers
narrowly avoided disaster
thanks to a fast-acting driver
who managed to stop the train
just twenty metres short of a break
in the track.

Three investigations into the incident are now underway
to determine why the Melbourne to Sydney V-Line train
was incorrectly routed onto a track undergoing maintenance.

V-Line passenger train 8615

was one and a half kilometres north of Seymour
and travelling at about 80 km/h

when the driver saw a maintenance vehicle ahead
and applied the breaks coming to a standstill
just before
the
two metre break in the track.

The train then reversed back into Seymour.

The Rail, Tram and Bus Union's Mark Marotta said
the train would not have been able to stop
if it had been travelling at full speed.


"It wouldn't have stopped.
People would have lost their lives,''
he said.
The driver and maintenance crew
are understood to be badly shaken by the incident.

A spokesman for Australian Rail Track Corporation,
who operate the track, said they acknowledge
the criticality and seriousness of the incident
and have initiated a full internal investigation.


"The Victorian Office of the Chief Investigator
has also advised that they will be conducting
an independent inquiry
into the incident.

"Additionally Transport Safety Victoria
will also be conducting
their own investigation/compliance audit
into this incident.''


Now as "tintin", WHO:
STATES that AUSTRALIA IS THE LAND
GOD PRESERVED for
HIS RE-GATHERED FAITHFUL;
CLAIMS TO "BE christ",
(But NOT 'THE PERFECT'
RESURRECTED SON of GOD),
also then BANNED POSTS on ANYTHING
ACTUALLY TO BE FOUND IN GOD'S WORD...

true lilly wrote:
A thinking person has to ask...



"CORI" says...again and again...

that "CORI" WANTS 99.9% of ALL HUMAN BEINGS DEAD...

...oh, and that
"I" am "evil", FOR WARNING THE WORLD
about THE "CORI'S" PRETENDING to be their 'friends' Rolling Eyes


The Very Best News Ever!
That God Exists and Keeps All His Promises!
[/size]

JEREMIAH 50:
1
The word that Jehovah spoke
concerning Babylon,
concerning the land of the Chal·de´ans,
by means of Jeremiah the prophet:
2
“Tell [it] among the nations and publish [it].
And lift up a signal; publish [it].

Hide nothing, O men....

4
“In those days and at that time,”

is the utterance of Jehovah,
“the sons of Israel,
they and the sons of Judah together,
will come.
They will walk,
weeping as they walk,
and
for Jehovah their God they will seek.


5
To Zion they will keep asking the way,

with their faces in that direction, [saying,]
‘Come and let us join ourselves to Jehovah
in an indefinitely lasting covenant that
will not be forgotten.’

6
A flock of perishing creatures
my people has
become.
Their own shepherds

have caused them to wander about.

On the mountains they have led them away.
From mountain to hill they have gone.
They have forgotten their resting-place.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=50&v=1&t=KJV#top

...and I strongly suggest you bother to
study every word...remembering, that
I don't, 'go looking for bits' of 'the bible',
to 'justify' denying God's Word to sell
yet another of man's religions...I pray,
in faith, for His Advice,
and bingo!, of
All the Topics Under The Sun, covered
In His Word, it's the topic I'm writing on,
that the pages open, and my eyes see.
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Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:03 pm

true lilly wrote:This is NOT a 'typo' of 'tintin's',
that I've highlighted here:


TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.


Richard Wagner

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.
__________________________________________________________________

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK has not 'died'.
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was BORN 96 years
AFTER RICHARD WAGNER

32 years, 5 months, 9 days after

ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK was born,
ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK, KILLED...8 + 69 = 77...
or so we are now, officially told...but "tintin" ALWAYS IGNORES
ALL NUMBERS and DATES that DON'T SUIT the CODED ORDERS
HE SENDS AT THE TIME..and, "tintin" CODES 'speak to' different
people, at different 'levels'...the simple messages, to the simple,
'dumb bunnies', 'raised' to be sacrificed, with the computer code,
behind the simple public posts, for those he doesn't want dead, YET.

...and in this post,
"TINTIN" IS CALLING "CELLS" of his,
("dumb bunny", bitterly waiting to stop pretending,
that they 'love' the men they 'got in with'),
WOmen to KILL...

(full post at link;#29876)

tintin wrote: 30-07-2011, 07:10 PM#29876


Playboy Rabbit Hole


We are in the year of the RABBIT and that's the RABBI link
to ISRAEL and to the RABBIT HOLE and UTOYA is in HOLE municipality.

TRISTAN was the killer in ALPHEN.



Wagner

TRISTAN and ISOLDE, RICHARD WAGNER Opera.





Richard Wagner


ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK died 96 years
after RICHARD WAGNER.

WAGNER died on 13 FEBRUARY 1883 in CA' VENDRAMIN in VENICE.


Ca' Vendramin: Casino

Ca' Vendramin is the CASINO of VENICE.

The CASINO ROYALE link to NORWAY.

...and I must trust God,
has called those who need to know,
to protect themselves from such WOmen.
BLESSED AGAIN...by The Faithful
having learned to "Read"
'David Icke's'=Team TINTIN/CORI's
CODED TERRORIST PLOTS...


Train driver averts rail disaster


1:45PM
Nick Leys


A TRAIN carrying at least 300 passengers

avoided disaster when the driver managed to stop
just 20m short of a break in the track.


Train driver averts disaster
after pulling up 20m from break in track


By Nick Leys
From:
Herald Sun

August 01, 2011
1:59PM

AN interstate train
carrying at least 300 passengers
narrowly avoided disaster
thanks to a fast-acting driver
who managed to stop the train
just twenty metres short of a break
in the track.

Three investigations into the incident are now underway
to determine why the Melbourne to Sydney V-Line train
was incorrectly routed onto a track undergoing maintenance.

V-Line passenger train 8615

was one and a half kilometres north of Seymour
and travelling at about 80 km/h

when the driver saw a maintenance vehicle ahead
and applied the breaks coming to a standstill
just before
the
two metre break in the track.

The train then reversed back into Seymour.

The Rail, Tram and Bus Union's Mark Marotta said
the train would not have been able to stop
if it had been travelling at full speed.


"It wouldn't have stopped.
People would have lost their lives,''
he said.
The driver and maintenance crew
are understood to be badly shaken by the incident.

A spokesman for Australian Rail Track Corporation,
who operate the track, said they acknowledge
the criticality and seriousness of the incident
and have initiated a full internal investigation.


"The Victorian Office of the Chief Investigator
has also advised that they will be conducting
an independent inquiry
into the incident.

"Additionally Transport Safety Victoria
will also be conducting
their own investigation/compliance audit
into this incident.''


Now as "tintin", WHO:
STATES that AUSTRALIA IS THE LAND
GOD PRESERVED for
HIS RE-GATHERED FAITHFUL;
CLAIMS TO "BE christ",
(But NOT 'THE PERFECT'
RESURRECTED SON of GOD),
also then BANNED POSTS on ANYTHING
ACTUALLY TO BE FOUND IN GOD'S WORD...

true lilly wrote:
A thinking person has to ask...



"CORI" says...again and again...

that "CORI" WANTS 99.9% of ALL HUMAN BEINGS DEAD...

...oh, and that
"I" am "evil", FOR WARNING THE WORLD
about THE "CORI'S" PRETENDING to be their 'friends' Rolling Eyes


The Very Best News Ever!
That God Exists and Keeps All His Promises!
[/size]



JEREMIAH 50:
1
The word that Jehovah spoke
concerning Babylon,
concerning the land of the Chal·de´ans,
by means of Jeremiah the prophet:
2
“Tell [it] among the nations and publish [it].
And lift up a signal; publish [it].

Hide nothing, O men....

4
“In those days and at that time,”


is the utterance of Jehovah,
“the sons of Israel,
they and the sons of Judah together,
will come.
They will walk,
weeping as they walk,
and
for Jehovah their God they will seek.



5
To Zion they will keep asking the way,


with their faces in that direction, [saying,]

‘Come and let us join ourselves to Jehovah

in an indefinitely lasting covenant that

will not be forgotten.’


6
A flock of perishing creatures
my people has
become.
Their own shepherds


have caused them to wander about.


On the mountains they have led them away.

From mountain to hill they have gone.

They have forgotten their resting-place.


http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=50&v=1&t=KJV#top



...and I strongly suggest you bother to
study every word...remembering, that
I don't, 'go looking for bits' of 'the bible',
to 'justify' denying God's Word to sell
yet another of man's religions...I pray,
in faith, for His Advice,
and bingo!, of
All the Topics Under The Sun, covered
In His Word, it's the topic I'm writing on,
that the pages open, and my eyes see.
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Post  true lilly on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:01 am

BREIVIK
'UNDERWENT PARAMILITARY TRAINING'
IN BELARUS


Breivik
‘underwent paramilitary training
in Belarus’

Anders Behring Breivik
©️ REUTERS/ Jon-Are Berg-Jacobsen


18:27 28/07/2011
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Norway’s twin terror suspect Anders Behring Breivik trained
at a secret paramilitary field camp in Belarus earlier this year, a
Belarusian opposition politician said on Thursday, citing security
sources.


“Breivik visited Belarus several times. This spring, as part of his
preparations for his twin attacks, he visited Minsk, where he underwent
training at a secret paramilitary field camp,” Mikhail Reshetnikov, the
head of the opposition Belarusian Party of Patriots, told the Gazeta.ru
online newspaper.


He cited sources within Belarus’s “security organs.”

Breivik, 32, has admitted to carrying out a bombing in Oslo, which killed eight, and a mass shooting at a Labor Party youth camp
on the nearby island of Utoya, which left 68 dead. He has not accepted
criminal responsibility, however, saying his actions were "atrocious but
necessary" measures intended to "save Norway and Western Europe" from a
"Muslim takeover."


Breivik mentioned in his online manifesto visiting Belarus to study
the effects of fallout from the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster. The
former Soviet republic’s state border agency has confirmed he was in
Belarus from March 4 to March 11, 2005.


Reshetnikov also claimed Breivik had participated in
“sabotage-terrorism drills” under a former Belarusian special service
officer and that he had used a fake passport to enter Belarus.


“His codename in Belarus’s KGB was Viking,” he added. “Rumors say he also had a girlfriend in Belarus.”

“The theory that Belarus’ special forces were involved in training
Anders Breivik seems, of course, far-fetched,” political expert Viktor
Demidov was quoted by Gazeta.ru as saying.


“On the other hand, [Belarusian] President Alexander Lukashenko’s
friendship with Muammar Gaddafi is no secret - neither is his fondness
for Adolf Hitler.”


Norway is taking part in NATO operations in Libya and Gaddafi has threatened attacks against Europe.
_________________________________________________________

CORI, TINTIN, ICKE, ASSANGE, BREIVIK...ALL PUSHING THE SAME,
BLOODY BARROW...not quiet diplomacy...and when their 'dumb bunnies'
have finished eating down the grass, it's INTO THE BLOODY STEW they GO...

Billy Ruben wrote:What are you doing spamming my thread?Is this the
last revenge.You have your own forum now,don't be so cruel...

Unlike you mob, I AM ON TOPIC.

Unlike you mob, I DON'T WANT MORE DUMB BUNNIES DEAD.

Unlike you mob, I WARN AUSTRALIANS OF FOREIGN PLOTS.

CRUEL is DEFENDING & COVERING TINTIN/CORI BLOODY PLOTS.

BLOODY STUPID IS DEFENDING THEM UNDER THIS TOPIC TITLE= .


"Womens Issues, Tissues And Handbags"...

...no better place to hide true lilly than under that BLOODY INSULTING TITLE,


as 'you' full well know...seems it may be time to take conversations to the streets...
...no problems finding gentlemen who understand a, 'nod and wink and a
point of the toe', around here...and who are literally sick to near death,
of The Bloody WOmen's Circles...


...btw...when 'their spawn', graffiti my fence, they try killing me again...idiots...


...like I'm the only one who knows that Rolling Eyes ...oh well, looks like The Darwin Awards
may have a multiple tie for the winner... Razz...particularly if I do finally get to Rest,
in the profound sleep of the first, temporary, 'death'...

YEP, you mob of pig's ARE BLOODY STUPID...


...and this is Main Stream Media News;


BREIVIK
'UNDERWENT PARAMILITARY TRAINING'
IN BELARUS


...so WHY SO DESPERATE TO HIDE IT FROM
CONspiracy NUT JOB RECRUITS of Team TINTIN/CORI....

psst, the answer is in the question...
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Post  MoMo on Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:25 pm

Notice lillys opinion of Israel, it explains alot thumbs up

true lilly wrote:Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"
...




SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON
.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!
...?








...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...

Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia



Note: Israel is shown in blue.


Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...




The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.


LIE #1: These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.

LIE #2: For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.

It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page

Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH,
STABLE LAND...



UNlike ...


...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...


It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
Rolling Eyes


Refuting lillys Lies #s 1 & 2 thumbs up

http://geography.about.com/od/lists/a/largecontinent.htm

Largest Continents in Area
1. Asia - 17,139,445 square miles (44,391,162 square km)
2. Africa - 11,677,239 square miles (30,244,049 square km)
3. North America - 9,361,791 square miles (24,247,039 square km)
4. South America - 6,880,706 square miles (17,821,029 square km)
5. Antarctica - About 5,500,000 square miles (14,245,000 square km)
6. Europe - 3,997,929 square miles (10,354,636 square km)

7. Australia - 2,967,909 square miles (7,686,884 square km)


Australia is the Smallest, the Runt Continent. thumbs up

The map of Europe lilly superimposes on Australia is NOT the whole continent. Compare the Reality as compared to her lie. thumbs up



Well it is obvious you are Anti-Israel and Antisemitic. Let's see your source for your Area Sizes you Posted. I'm calling your Bluff. Again thumbs up
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Post  MoMo on Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:45 pm

What about these facts lilly? Do you comprehend any of this? I've asked you before.

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Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity



As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.



Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet/Alephbet ........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemisphereical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....

THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO G-D...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

1: Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.
For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.
To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. A Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Sinai:

1: Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamis.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first to embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first Book written in an Alphbet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alphabetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced the possibility of Universal Literacy, so we may honestly thank and praise Yahweh that we are Literate!

All together now: Hallelu Yahweh!!!


Woot!!!! Wooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So once upon a time way out in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinatic Alphabet

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the ANE, Babylon, Egypt.etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Realtivist may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, lo those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Book of Yahwehs/Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the ANE Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.

From the Alphabet Effect and the Oxford Companion to the Brain/Mind

East/Right...............................West/Left

Ideograms........................................Alphabet

Right brain oriented.............................Left Brain Oriented

Non-Linear........................................Linear

Acoustical.........................................Visual

Analogical.........................................Logical

Inductive..........................................Deductive

Concrete...........................................Abstract

Mystical............................................Causal

Intuitive...........................................Rational

Generalist.........................................Specialist

Decentralized......................................Centralized

Local................................................Universal

Integrative.........................................Fragmented

Space Oriented....................................Time Oriented

Traditional.........................................Progressive

Cyclic Time........................................Continuous Time

Algebraic...........................................Geometric

Concrete Science..................................Abstract Science

Order & Pattern....................................Natural Law

Craft.................................................Technology

Invention............................................Exploitation

Technique...........................................System

Customs-Mores (confucious)......................Codified Law

Harmony of Nature (Tao)..........................Monotheism

Relativity............................................Absolutism

The Human Brain has three evolutionary layers.

1: The Reptilian Brain=Instinctual

2: The Paleo-Mammalian= generates Emotions

3: The Cerebral NeoCortex=Imagination, Intelligence-Right and Left Hemispheres, Corpus Callosum-capable of Art & Physics

The three brains in one operate like three interconnected biological computers, each with its own subjectivity, its own special intelligence, and its own sense of Time & Space.

The Atavistic Human Reptilian Brain-The R-Complex, contains Programmes that are rigid, compulsive, ritualistic and paranoid.

The Paleo-Mammalian Brain-The Limbic System is the seat of archaic emotions that drive feeding, fleeing, fighting, and sex-they ensure survival.
All emotions are either pleasant or unpleasant-Pleasure & Pain are the two criteria of Judgement of the Limbic System, judges all experience.

Of the two cortical Hemispheres the Right Brain is in more direct communication with the archaic reptilian instincts and primative mammalian emotions.

An instinct permits no variation in an organisms response to a specific stimulus-Instincts are 'Hard Wired' forcing the organism to respond reflexively & repititously to any particular stimulus.

In mammals emotions may be considered the truncated remnants of reptilian instincts.

A specific stimulus detected by mammalian sensory apparatus always activates the same release of complex chains of neuro-transmitters and hormones.

Emotions impels mammals and hyper-conscious primates to commit repetitive instinctual behavioural patterns.

Fear impels flight or fight responses, hate, anger, jealousy impels them to kill, envy and greed impel them to steal, lust will impel them to cast aside caution and behave in a manner that could compromise their safety and/or survival.

Be that as it may-mammals have more complex brains then reptiles and can make decisions, and are therefore capable of making choosing between different responses.

Humans, due to the development/gift of the Cerebral Cortex; have Freewill, which enables us to override our emotions and modulate our response to environmental provocations.

* Humans have many choices

* Mammals have few

* Reptiles have none at all


Characteristics of the Right Brain

BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS-MUSIC

"All At Once" 'Holistic' 'Gestalt'

Characteristics of the Left Brain

DOING-WORDS-ABSTRACT THINKING-NUMBER SENSE

"One at a time" Abstract, Linear, Sequential


RIGHT BRAIN

1: 'BEING': appreciates 'Feeling State'--complex expressions of emotions-Laughter-Faith-Patriotism-Ectasy-Grief-Love--Etc..Aesthetic Appreciation and Harmony.

There is no precise nomenclature for 'Feeling State', they are subjective, they cannot be precisely enumerated in scientific language, they remain ambiguous. They are: NONDISCURSIVE.

'Feeling States' are Non-Logical; they confute the rules of conventional reasoning.

As Blaise Pascal so succinctly put it: "Le Couer a ses raisons que la raison ne connait pas" The heart has reasons that reason will never know...........

'Feeling States' are authentic, the experience of Love, Hate, Joy, Grief, are known with an internal authority that is beyond the Realm of Debate.

The essence of a 'Joke', Faith in a God, Patriotism, Love are non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.

Intuition/Hunches, or why an object/subject is beautiful to one person but not to another.

Each 'Feeling state' lies beyond the tight circle of logic. When compelled to explain affective States, people usually rely upon that old tautological response: 'It is because it is'.

'Feeling States' do not progress in a linear process, Getting a Joke, Intuitive Insights come out of nowhere, Love at first sight, religious conversions ala Damascus Road are -"All at Once".

2: Images-Comprehension of Images--The Right Hemisphere takes in the 'Big Picture' in a holistic manner, it appreciates the relationship of the parts to the whole. The Right Brain assimilates Images as Gestalts-seeing 'All at Once'.

3: Metaphor: A mental innovation arising out of a unique combination of 'Feeling States' and Images.

Greek Root-Meta=Over and Above-Meta-normal

Phor-Pherein=to bear across

A Metaphor allows/causes the 'Leap' across the chas of one thought to another thought. Metaphors have several different levels of meaning simutaneously (All at Once) perceived and supplies plasticity to otherwise rigid language.

Communicating any affective, emotional 'Feeling State' requires the usage of Metaphor because the so called objective world can be described, measured and catalogued with scientific precision, the internal, subjective world of emotions eludes precise Scientific Analysis.

The verbal art of metaphor is poetry.

Metaphors linguistic cousins are: Similies, analogies, allegories, proverbs and parables. Each allow simultaneous levels of interpreting one single set of words.

Dream Interpretation, Myths, Religions, Dreaming is Right Brain-it is said Dreams are to the individual; what myths and myths are to the society.

The most potent combination of Metaphor & Image is Art.

Visual Art is non-discursive, non-logical and authentic.

the Artistes device is to use visual metaphor to transport a viewer from a neutral affective state to complex 'Feeling States'.

Awe, Shock, Pleasure, ............

When the Artiste is successful the viewer is Transported Metaphorically 'Bearing' us 'across and above'. There is no Transitory State, it is an 'All at Once', Quantuum Leap. That is Great Art, it is Successful.



4: Music-Ability to appreciate and create music is Right Brain. The appreciation of music is an emotion we share with more primative animals.

I lived with two Shar Peis, and everytime I would play Jean Pierre Rampal and Aleander Lagoya the dogs would come into the room and sit and stare at the speakers, I think the Flute charmed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwNn2egm1E

Music demonstrates the Right Brains ability to process information as an 'All at Once' holistic gestalt by utilising multiple; incoming; converging determinants and integrating them synthetically.

Simultaneity is th eopposite of linear, sequential time, is unique to the Right Brain whose home ground is the realm of visio-spatial context, correlating parts to a whole whilst intuiting diverse relationships amongst them.

Multiple determinants, multiple emotions, multiple meanings, multiple images and multiple sounds converging into one State can be expressed through the metaphor of Space. The Right Brain excels at the appreciation of spatial dimensions and judging distances.

Driving, Skiing, and Dancing are in the dominion of the Right Brain.

The Right Brains principal attributes: BEING-IMAGES-METAPHORS & MUSIC echoe evolutionary techniques used by mammals tp comprehend Reality, All at Once, and are perceived holistically.

left brain

The Left Brains modus operendi is: 'DOING' rather then 'BEING'

An accepted rubric of Brain Laterization is the Respective Hemispheres control the opposite side muscular appendages--Left Brain=Right Hand--Right Brain=Left Hand.

The Act of 'willing' is Left Brain, the Right Hand Throws, Gathers, Fabricates.etc......

Rather then Simutaneity/All at once; what makes us 'Homo Faber' the Toolmaker is our sense of an Abstractm, Linear, Sequential series of 'Steps', 'Moves', 'Processes' that exist in Linear sequential Time which is necessary for Craftwork, Hunting etc.



Words-Vocalisations are Left Brain-Language is action Oriented, we abstract, discriminate, analyze and dissect the World into pieces-objects-catagories-that we can then grasp metaphorically and literally. A vocabulary is a Too set by which we act upon the environment.

From the Left Brain issues the generationa nd comprehension of speech with its intricacies of grammar, syntax and semantics.

Speech enables us to not only communicate with others but allows us to talk within ourselves and to ourselves.

Lower Creatures can SIGNAL
Advanced animals can INFORM
Only humans can Question, Dispute and Reason.

Abstract Thinking: This is the ability to process information/Data without the use of Images/Pictures and is the opposite of Metaphorical Thinking.

Words are Image substitutes the mind uses in building Concepts and to solve problems. When Humans evolved beyond thinking in Pictures they made a transformative evolutionary leap.

Previously meaningless phonemes/vocalisations became the words of speech and the tools of abstract thought.

Later when they combined the meaningless letters of an arbitrary alphabet to form visual words to represent the World, they created the Worlds very first Abstract art Form-The Alephbet.

Written Alphabetic Language. The Human Race had combined meaningless sounds with meaningless symbols and and created Civilization!

Abstract Thinking is usually performed within the Context of Causality which evolved from earlier Hominids perceiving, catagorizing the World into Spatial Events occuring in Time. Sunrise/Sunset--High Tide/Low Tide--Spring-Summer-Autumn-Winter.

The Human ability to recognize the intersection of Space & Time may be the precurser condition to recognise Causality and thus Formulate Logic.

The primary benefit of our Species derived from the use of Abstract Thinking was the strengthening of Foresight.

Logic is dependent on the proposition of: If-Then

A hypothetical 'IF' Scenario or idea is formulated in the mind and the placed left of 'NOW' (the past), next a hypothetical 'Then' scenario or idea is placed to the Right of 'NOW' (the future)

One may now apply Forced Logic, and Inductive and DEductive Reasoning to mentally deduce the probability of the 'IF' proposition leading to the 'THEN' proposition and initiate, modify or withold ACTION.

Logic is NOT Holistic, nor is it conceived of as a GESTALT, it depends upon an Abstract Linear Sequence.

IF-THEN Syllogisms are a reliable method of Foretelling/Predicting the Future Events thus replacing Omens, Portents; Oracles, Tarot, Astrology etc....

The Rules of Logic form the foundation of Science, Business and militatary Strategy.

Logical Thinking stands apart from other mental activities like: imagining, intuiting, reflecting, reminiscing, ruminating and daydreaming in that Logical Thinking relies upon a belief in a rigid coordinate system of Absolute Space and Invariant Time-

Number Sense: Ability to count originates in the Visio-Spatial Right Brain, and all higher animals can perceive and separate the concept of 'Oneness'; 'Twoness' and 'Manyness'. The Human ability to manipulate larger numbers is Suis Generis/Unique.

Calculation requires a level of Abstraction beyond the Realm of the Right Brain.

The Left Brain Rules Language and Numbers, the Language of Numbers is Mathematics, which arranges meaningless symbols which represent numbers into simple arithmetic, or into intricate, infinitesimal calculus.

When small children learn the alphabet they also learn mathematics.

The Left Brains innovative features: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are processed in Abstract Linear Sequential Time.

To develop Craftwork Strategy, Language Logic and Mathematics the mind must range back and forth along the line of: Past-Present-Future.
The ability to fashion a Tool arises out of the Left Brain and relies upon the ability to memorize a series of steps in linear sequence.

The dominant hand is a specialized limb that is an extension of sequential Left Hemisphere.

Logic, Algebra, Physics equations all proceed in Time-Line by Line Proofs are the essence of higher math.

A series of numbers is a sequence.

Right Brain: Phylogenetic Learning, vision based and dependent on Space.

Left Brain: Learns Data/Information by rote in sequence-Time.

Right Brain: Holistic, Synthetic integration of Being, Images, Metaphors, Music-Functions: 'ALL AT ONCE'-All can be mapped using the vectors of Space.
Left Brain: Doing, Words, Abstract Thinking, and Number sense. Functions: 'ONE AT A TIME' All can be mapped by linear sequential Time.

Being, Metaphor, Image and Music are the Essence of Art.
Doing, reason, Abstract Thinking and Number sense are the essence of Physics


"From the point of view of evolutionary epistemology, the principle lesson of both special and general relativity theories is this: Human /beings are organisms capable of manipulating internal representations of the World by means of concrete operations and can transcend the bounds of their biologically given perceptione. They can liberate themselves and construct a view of reality that conflicts with intuition, yet gives a truer, more encompassing view."

Max Delbruck

"Time & Space are real Beings, a Male & a Female, Time is a Man, Space is a Woman"

William Blake



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Re: David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Post  true lilly on Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:28 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by cycles of time

mayans/aztecs and other indiginious of that region believe that death is just the gateway to another more spiritual plane of life. they honour death. much of the sacrifices that took place were voluntary.

and pyramids were the easiest structures to build . its common sense when it comes to architecture.

Sounds 'comforting' don't it. "SWEET WORDS THAT TICKLE THE EAR".

There is a reason that ISRAEL was

DELIVERED OUT OF MITSRAYIM, The AMERICAS.
DEATH WORSHIP....that was translated MUCH LATER into Egypt.


Likewise that RAINBOW/FEATHERED SERPENT in common with

both OZ and Ancient America, here in OZ, they WARN that when
it's RAISED AGAIN, ALL HEAVY SHIT HITS THE FAN!

They KNEW what they where escaping, The BEAST'S Rule!


But yes, the FIRST death is into sleep, not that bad, not anything,

just unconsciousness, but "They" twisted it out of truth and turned it
into "justification" for HUMAN SACRIFICE, and ALL the PUSHERS of
that seduction into DEATH WORSHIP, WILL are going to be MIGHTY
BLOODY SORRY when they're Resurrected from that First death,
to FACE GOD and "Have Their Account Settled".

So here again, we have two examples of people considered 'extinct',


due to those DEATH WORSHIPERS of this LAST KINGDOM Age. LOOK
CLOSELY at the face of the AUSTRALIAN standing man in the hat
and the face of the SOUTH AMERICA stone head of 'peoples unknown'.



If you can't SEE the SAME people with the SAME style,

it can only be 'spiritual blindness'.
[quote="true lilly"]Originally Posted by vera susa
(attached image at link below)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1673

7 + 7 + 7 = 21 = 2 + 1 = 3 = TRINITY = TRIANGLE = PYRAMID = EGYPT.

This is a DEATH/SACRIFICE CULT, "JOKE",
because as we know, there are PYRAMIDS,
ALL OVER THE WORLD,
but they are mainly like these...





NOT quite "TRIANGLES like the "FAMOUS ONES" in Egypt,
but like these from the Land these people now 'said' to EXTINCT,
lived in. SOUTH AMERICA...





Like these people also 'said' to be EXTINCT,
from TASMANIA of the Land of OZ[ION]...


But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES!

The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM,
is that it causes
the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED
into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE
of
TOES of IRON MINGLED with CLAY,
"as if" it is 'many' of those ages, so
WE MISS ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS
of WARNING,
and HATE and BLAME GOD
for 'not' KEEPING HIS PROMISES
instead of
SEEING that in FACT,
HE HAS KEPT THEM ALL!

Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1676
Get ready for more TORAH SPAM...
...poor, pathetic el kabong...still churning out,
the words of those who say,
"they know God, BUT GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN HE
DESCRIBED THE WHOLE WORLD and ALL
THE EARTH"
...


CURSE JUDAH and BE CURSED.


Well,
GOD HAS, LONG BEEN RE-GATHERING,
JUDAH and ISRAEL
and THOSE JOINED TO THEM,
in The UNIQUELY GLORIOUS Land,
that HE DESCRIBED...

and YOU, KEEP CURSING BOTH,
RE-JOINED ISRAEL & JUDAH and
That Land From Which,
ALL THE NATIONS ARE HEALED!


Listen, BLIND FOOL...it ain't about 'size'...
I NEVER SAID it was about 'size'...
...that's your sick attachment...
your deliberate, deadly lie...

...oh, and what did happen to MY ORIGINAL Post,
that YOU SO INSANELY, HAD TO HACK into more of
YOUR, FILTHY LIES, that you call 'quotes'...

...too bad for YOU, GOD KNOWS...

(ah, found it elsewhere Smile )




SEE!!!
The AREA of EUROPE "SHOWN",
ON This COMPARISON
.
Now, DO YOU want to do some HONEST WORK and
ADD UP ALL THOSE NATION STATES' POPULATIONS,
then ALSO COMPARE THAT!
...?








...ah, but it's THIS
that's really GOT YOUR GOAT...

Comparison of the size of
Israel vs. Australia



Note: Israel is shown in blue.


Now, WHERE would a THINKING Person
see GOD RE-GATHERING
HIS 5 to 10% REMAINING
of The World's Population?

In that recently invented, shit strip of desert, 'israel', or...


The Australian maps over the world
can help you visualize how
vast this country is.


These overlaid Australian maps show the relative size of Australia
over the world to help in comparing it to the major other ares in the
world.
For easy comparison Australia’s land area is 7,706,168 sq
km. Europe on the other hand has a square km area of 3,483,066.
Australia is just about twice as large as all of Europe and is two
thirds as large as the continental United States.
It is
remarkable that Tourists arrive here thinking I will rent a car and
drive all over it in two weeks. For those of you who like the beach
there is about 12,000 km of beach. Plenty of room for you, your beach
chair and umbrella.

Aboriginal Art is available in all major cities but it is produced
mostly in the Northern Territory, Central Desert and Arnhem land areas
of Australia. Contact us through our contact page for more detailed maps
of those areas.
Maps Australia over the world, courtesy of www.bartelpc.com.au
Australian Maps
Aboriginal History
Home Page
Oh but remember, GOD ALSO PROMISED
to PRESERVE a RICH,
STABLE LAND...and SEE,

so many more Nations than in Europe, that populated it,
even long after it was utterly devastated,
after JOSHUAH died and ISRAEL FORGOT GOD...



YES, THE RICHLY BLESSED, STABLE Land,
UNlike ...




...and EVERYWHERE ELSE...



It's all about SEEING WHAT IS, IN PERSPECTIVE...
...AS GOD DESCRIBED, FROM THE BEGINNING...

...NOT, ONLY a few short thousand years ago,
BY THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW,
MOST of GOD'S WHOLE EARTH EXISTED...
Rolling Eyes



THERE IS NO LAND at
THE NORTH POLE



Quite the contrary
the South Pole
is located in a continent.




LEBANON=WHITE=ANTARCTICA



National Library of Australia Home > News & Events



A reproduction of a 1566 world map by Nicolas Desliens.
With south orientated at the top,
the top left corner has a large land mass
that is claimed to be Australia,
charted from Chinese voyages.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1898

LISTEN TO THE WORDS LONG WRITTEN DOWN...
...THE MAN, COMES AROUND...

https://youtu.be/iSPlJusBJ-E


Colour coding relates to topographic height,
with dark green at lower elevations,
rising through yellow and tan,
to white at the highest points.

It looks familiar, but it is no ordinary map.

It is part of the most detailed topographic map of the world
ever made,
according the US space agency NASA .

For 11 days in February 2000
the space shuttle Endeavour circled the world,
using a sophisticated radar to chart all the land
between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south,
and 80 per cent of the Earth's land was mapped
with a resolution of 90 metres.

NASA noted that Australia
was
the flattest continent in the world.

"Its low average elevation (300 metres) is caused by
its position
near the centre of a tectonic plate,
where there are no volcanic
or other geologic forces
of the type
that raise the topography of other continents.

"Prominent features of Australia
include the Lake Eyre Basin,

the darker green region visible in the centre-right.
At 16 metres below sea level, this depression is
one of the largest inland drainage systems
in the world,
covering more than 1.3 million
square kilometres.


...and what happens when we STOP DRAINING...
...RE-BUILD what WAS...
ANCIENTLY, UTTERLY DEVASTATED...
...
RE-BUILD the CANALS and CISTERNS...
...
and RE-PLANT
...and... Very Happy Wink

COOK's ENDEAVOUR,
NASA's ENDEAVOUR
=
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
...
...TIME & SPACE, TIME & PLACE...

...GOD'S TIME, TIMES & SIGNS...
...CRYSTAL CLEAR...DRINK IT IN,
THE WATER IS FREE...


DO bother, to drink in,
every full meaning, of every word,
and NOT only of this chapter...

Revelation 22:1-21

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=22&v=1&t=KJV#top

1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


2
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded
her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing
of the nations.


3
And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:


4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever
and ever.


6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true:
and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew
unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.


7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings
of the prophecy of this book.


8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard
and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which
shewed me these things.


9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not:
for I am thy fellowservant,
and of thy brethren the prophets,
and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


10And he saith unto me,
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:
for the time is at hand.


11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy, let him be holy still.


12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me,
to give every man according as his work shall be.


13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.


14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right
to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and
morning star.


17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


19And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from
the things which are written in this book.


20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


...oh and btw,
THE SAFEGUARD GOD WROTE INTO HIS WORD,
was NOT comparing mans lying words against mans lying words,
but to TEST:
HOLY SCRIPTURE against HOLY SCRIPTURE,
and,
WHAT WAS REAL (FROM THE BEGINNING)
and IS REAL, in ALL The World and ALL The Earth,
That GOD CREATED. Because GOD CAN'T LIE,
let alone contradict HIMSELF, and as soon as you decide...

to DENY GOD'S WORD that DESCRIBED
WHAT GOOD SCIENCE keeps DISCOVERING, such as:

the water covered globe;
that one land mass was raised out of it;
LIFE EXISTED in and on the world, without death,
UNTIL Oxygen formed=The Prince of The Air/DEATH entered;
that NOAH'S TIME of RE-populating ALL The Earth with
people and The ORIGINAL KINDS of animals, WAS LONG,
BEFORE The ONE LAND MASS Started to Divide...

YOU DECIDE to FAIL THE TEST.

el kabong wrote:


Very Happy ...I'll see, YOUR POISON FRUIT-LOOPS...and RAISE,
with The GOOD FRUIT (that can't be made, bought or stolen),
that my Faithfulness To THE CREATOR of LIFE,
BLESSED THE WORLD WITH...


How those who dig the pits for others,
fall in them themselves...


Some BEARSTAR's of SWEDEN'S, REX VENTORS...





Magnus and his girls, Sept -05



Tinja equally protective of Angelie


Lovisa using Demi for a pillow

See, I was happy rescuing, healing and re-homing the lost,
but 'they' thought to tempt my pride, and got me a pedigree dog.

But, I didn't want to show (the horse world had cured me of that),
only breed good dogs to put in loving homes, and so my dogs
had to pass my tests (of safe, sound temperaments, and bodies),
in my home, on the farm, out in public, before they were chosen
as breeders.

The showing and world records that followed, were simply,
GOD'S BLESSINGS for Breeding BY HIS LAW...and oh, how
much 'they' HATED me, FOR ALWAYS GIVING ALL CREDIT TO GOD,
when 'they' would badger me for 'the secret' of my success,
that IS NO SECRET, but Published All Over The World; GOD'S WORD.


true lilly wrote:LOVE and BLESSINGS
https://youtu.be/pP1CCH7DEQM

CRUFTS 2x R.R. BoB

Ch & Sw Ch Rex Ventors Farrah at Nyassa









Smile ...ooh, and how many BEARSTAR'S
in that Pedigree...
[/size]
http://www.nyassa.co.uk/c%20litter.htm

...see, The Beautiful Thing, was that I didn't want to Show,
only Breed Quality for Future R.R. Lovers, but people were
making terrible dogs 'champion', because they had bugger all
quality to compete with back when I began, which is why I went
to a local show, just to see a few others and how my first R.R.
(first pedigree anything), compared to others...and from then,
I felt, well, Morally Obligated, to Exhibit R.R.'s of Quality.

The Records, well they were just 'The Cherry on Top',
for doing a good job well, for the right reason.

And The Nice Thing, is that I took my last Specialty Wins,
with my last litter, under this English Judge and Breeder,
Sue Campbell (Nyassa), and years latter, she's Winning CRUFTS
with the Bearstar blood she genuinely fell in love with.


Demi,
(Multi International Titled
Bearstar Diamond Willow
,
dam of 17 Champions inc.
Sue Cambell's CRUFTS
2x BoB Winner, "Farrah")

10 years after I sent her to Sweden,
closest to the camera,
posing with sister Tinja. Summer 2006.

http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/257/337/
http://www.rhodesian-ridgeback.net/content/view/32/71/

Gr Ch Bearstar Ko CD FC ROM
Eilack Apollo x Ch Ujamaa Ceres
20 Jan 1992 - 3 Nov 2005


On the 3rd of November 2005 two and half months short of his 14th birthday my
handsome man spent the morning chasing his grand-niece following that delightful
scent he has always loved, when he grew tired he lay down in the green grass in
the sun and quietly slipped away.

Multi Runner Up in Show, Multi Best in Specialty Show, Multi Runner Up in
Specialty Show, two times Melbourne Royal BOB, Brisbane Royal BOB, Toowoomba
Royal BOB, multi Best Headed in Specialty, multi Best Gaited in Specialty, multi
Sire's Progeny, Australia's first Grand Champion RR - Gr Champion Bearstar Ko CD
FC ROM - left me peacefully with great dignity.

He has left a legacy that ensures his name will remain in the RR history books
for generations to come. As Australia's most successful ever sire he has 30
Champions all over the world and others still in the process of taking titles.
He has sired 10 Best in Show winners, 2 Best in Field winners and even a Gold
medal winner in Skijoring (sleddog skiing). His kids have obedience titles and
tracking titles. And many without 'titles' have the very best of accolades -
being best friends and companions to their owners.

Ko was a very special dog - a once-in-a-lifetime soulmate who provided me love
and laughter every day of his life. He has taken a large part of my heart with
him but his spirit will linger always with me and within his children and their
children long after I'm gone.

Farewell Mister Ko - love you big boy. I know you'll be having a ton of fun at
the Bridge catching up with all your 'women' I so look forward to seeing you there.

http://www.starridgerrs.com/about_starridge.html

Ch Ujamaa Ceres "Barney"
(bred -
under terms of carrying the Ujamaa Prefix-
and kept by, and bred from, me,
from my first R.R. Ch. Ujamaa Pooh "Teddy")



"Barney" THE QUEEN of Bearstar, "Barkley" and "Chilli",
just 3 of my Bearstar Champs,
(who like "Teddy" and many others,
no one else wanted, and 'experts' said
I was mad for keeping), down home on the farm
Smile ,

oh and "Chilli", "Banyon and "Clare"...

...CH Bearstar White Banyon, was born 'dead' and 'couldn't be revived'
according to the Vet and everyone else who tried to rip him from my
busy hands, half an hour later, when they thought I'd gone mad... but,
they couldn't "SEE" what I could; he to went on to be a Best in Show
and many other top awards winner...and "Clare", sent back home to
LIVE 'like a dog' and for me to show, by her owners, was one of my 3,
Border Terrier of The Year winners (only competed for 3 years in that breed),
and yes they all lived in the house, and ran free in the fields and never
bothered stock
Very Happy . It was all part of how I Judged them Worthy
to Pass On Their Quality of SPIRIT. Oh there are plenty of 'trash'
dogs of the Same BLOODlines, but

what God's explained,
and my breeding Proved, is that
IT IS, THE INDIVIDUAL'S SPIRIT,
that separates='makes holy'.
JACOB was blessed. JACOB was a breeder.

This isn't my, "Blessing of Jacob" post,
but it will do...for now...


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Post  true lilly on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:28 am

true lilly wrote:So, 'el kabong' as you so luuvvv to mis-use the fairy-tale's of men,
to sell the deadly lies of your 'god'...again and again and again,
all over the bloody World Wide Web of Deception, I shall re-post
a few short posts here, to go just a little way towards redressing
the imbalance of how those fairy-tale's are used:


Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:UPDATE:

It's not a mother,it's an 18 year old girl/teeny lady.The police suspect,but
not confirming,that someone entered the premises and attached the
device to her,It goes around the neck (Necklacing) and to another device
around the waist.They have'nt figured out the trigger mechanism,
but she's alone,with the police and everyone else in the family is safe.

Criminal muslim elements suspected,but not confirmed.

It's a suspected extortion. Money. All about money, the usual motive.

But thanks, for letting me know, (via text), that you wanted me to know,
of another 'necklacing'. Rolling Eyes

Speaking of money;
do you know that what "tintin" sent
his other dumb bunny
(to stick around and try to finish me off)
,
was only what he would regularly 'tip'
when eating out (most meals),
around $AUS 1000.00 a pop, give or take a few 100;
roughly $AUS6600.00 all up.

Sad thing is, he (the dumb bunny),
claimed to have wanted a simple, family life,
and he could have had that, he knew and admitted it often,
but chose to believe, he would be, 'better rewarded'
by destroying me for 'them'.


That dumb bunny has since lost,
well, just about everything...house, land, super...

And that's what happens
when you give your balls to women to crush,
instead of having the balls to be a man for your woman.


Oh and, you did see "tintin's" Maserati, that he boasts of driving,
and you are aware of his Jet Setting, International,
Opera going life style?
Simply pointing out why I call his dumb bunnies, dumb bunnies.

He 'funds' them with his waiters tips,
and they believe he's 'invested' in 'looking after them',
after the shit, misses the fan, and gets dumped straight on
his dumb bunnies. Rolling Eyes

So do you get it yet?
Why tintin, literally throwing thousands of Euros at me
to buy a washing machine, while telling me,
I was 'too important to be wasting my time and brain'
(doing the laundry by hand a 4 in the morning),
had me gather them all back up, hand them back,
and remind him he was a guest,
not some, on-line sting...CAN you get it?


I don't find shame in honest work.
I'm happy to do productive work.
And as all the productive work I do around my home, gets destroyed,
I take solace in doing work for others, that won't get undone.
And if I'm offered payment, I want no more than the job was worth.
Likewise, if a job is done for me, and I feel they ask too little,
I'll at least top it up with bountiful praise in the the ears of others,
if not also a cuppa, beer, good feed or whatever else I can honestly offer.

See, Freedom, to me,
is not money, but not being indebted in such a way
that I can't say, 'No', if asked to cross a line,
that would make me someone I'm not.

And, contrary to sod's advice,
I am not someone who "makes contacts".
Granted, there are those who's position requires them
to make and maintain diplomatic associations,
but not being such a one, it's all the more reason
I don't abuse my friendships with such people,
by expecting or asking 'favours' of them...
let alone envying the wealth or positions they hold,
that without fail, draws countless user 'friends'.

In such 'unbalanced' relationships, all I do have to offer
to redress the balance, is a genuine friendship;
one that, 'cares for', not, 'takes from'....


...and why I'm bothering to give a dissertation
on the acts and attitudes that constitute a friendship,
to this audience Rolling Eyes,
well, I can't even recall how I got onto the topic...but I did, and
it's an important topic, so I'll leave it here for others to
ponder...and even challenge me on if they feel the need.
Smile ...ah, that's right,
"tintin",the champion of false friendship:
Too poor in spirit, to 'buy' one little woman
with so little of what the worldly desire,
that even the povs mock her;
'mean' enough to go to the expense and trouble of
dropping the threat of, a 'burning necklace', on her,
for caring to show him,
the blessings of the repentant and faithful.

Surely, there must be some out there, who can see that;
a job with a car and fuel card, is not worth the job of,
being a false friend of good people,
for, that false friend, "tintin".

Ok,this is long and you're wanting me to comment on events I've only heard one
side of,let alone,I'm not personally involved with Tintin to be sound of
judgement,but hell,saying you're to important to do hand washing in the
morning and buys a washing machine for you,that's a pretty nice
thing,look,people hurt people,are you sure it's Tintin and not someone
closer to home.
I'll mod this post later,when I sufficiently wake up,have'nt even had a tea yet....just a cigarette.
At the risk of having you lot go off again, with false claims of,
"'me', making it 'about me'", when that's what all of you keep doing Rolling Eyes,
I will again state, that yes, I do know just how very 'close to home', my attackers are,
and of their International NETworking Partners.

Do you really think I wasn't aware of why my ex, suddenly, had to, fly to Sydney,
before "tintin" flew in; and even lent me his car to drive "tintin" around, something
he would never do when our, HIS and My, kids, NEEDED me to drive for them,
and he was too busy NETworking to care to bother to help them himself?

The husband who was 'chosen' by those even closer, to claim to share my faith,
to ensure my future family would suffer, for having a mother who loves, and
can't blame or deny God.

And that is, The 'class', of people my on-line attackers, serve...a very, very sad truth,
that may yet have some redeeming value, if any of those family members, stop fighting
The Creator God (by attacking those who love Him), and accept The Amazing Grace with which the Truly Repentant Are BLESSED.

Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:
Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,




And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?

That's sad to me.

But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.


Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.


REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.


ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top

1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.

7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].

10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’

15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”

17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.

23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word
Very Happy )

P.S.
constantly repeating your same, proven lies, in other threads, without
showing my detailed posts that prove you to be a very bad liar, then
attacking me for replying with those detailed posts (to only a few of, your spammed,
filthy, lying posts), for 'spamming'
Rolling Eyes , is stupid. It shows you to be far too panicked
and desperate, to possess any credibility, what so ever.
Razz Wink

P.S. besides which, as I'm constantly required to,
manually, go back to the same post, over and over again,
to re-re-re-fix the format to make it legible again
(as I am doing, again, in this edit
Rolling Eyes ),
any attempt to actually 'spam' (which I don't do),
is made impossible for me, even if I wanted to Razz
dixie d, for this wonderfully timed post, in reply to
the fearful desperation of "tintin", "cori" and Co:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2995
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2994
dixie d wrote:04-08-2011, 05:31 AM #29942

Any links to Cube (film)
I'm also wondering if there might be a link from this article...

UK police seize record £300mn cocaine haul and also a link to Bacardi Rum

Quote:
Facund Bacardí i Massó, a Catalan wine merchant, was born in Sitges, Catalonia, (Spain) in 1814, and emigrated to Cuba in 1830.
I'd also expect a link to Pepsi

I notice on the Pepsi wiki page it mentions...

Quote:
"Billie Jean", "Bad" and "Black or White". "Black of White"'s was promoting the Dangerous World Tour.)
Black or White

Quote:
The song was released by Epic Records on November 11, 1991
In the Roman calendar, November is the 9th month, and the 9th month in the Gregorian calendar is September.

So, I'd also expect a link to Rimping

Funny thing, I was just looking at a verse in the Bible, Genisis 4 verse 17, which says the following...

Quote:
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he
builded a city, and called the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
On the Black and White wiki page I noticed Get Back and on that page you see the following...

Quote:
Around the time he was developing the lyrics to "Get Back",
McCartney satirised the "Rivers of Blood speech" by former British
Cabinet minister Enoch Powell in a brief
jam that has become known as the "Commonwealth Song". The lyrics
included a line "You'd better get back to your Commonwealth homes". The
group improvised various temporary lyrics for "Get Back" leading to what
has become known in Beatles' folklore as the "No Pakistanis"
version.[9] This version is more racially charged, and addresses
attitudes toward immigrants in America and Britain: "...don't need no
Puerto Ricans living in the USA"; and "don't dig no Pakistanis taking
all the people's jobs".[10] In an interview in Playboy magazine in 1980,
Lennon described it as "...a better version of 'Lady Madonna'. You
know, a potboiler rewrite."[11]
I also wonder if there might be a link to Rivers of Babylon

So, I'm not sure what all that means.
Last edited by dixie d; 04-08-2011 at 06:40 AM.


wow, and the links dixie added to that post...hint:
it does pay to read them them all, from top to bottom,
and deeper within...it's amazing graceful, what one can find...
Wink

"The Israelites"

Rivers of Babylon
UK number one single (Boney M version)

13 May 1978 - 10 June 1978
(my 17th birthday;
just after I first arrived in Sydney Smile Wink )



By the rivers of Babylon,
there we sat down, yea, we wept,
when we remembered Zion...
For there they that carried us away captive
required of us a song...
How shall we sing the LORD's song
in a strange land?


Let the words of my mouth,
and the meditation of my heart,
be acceptable in thy sight...

Psalm 19:14

It is one of a few pop songs whose lyrics
come directly from the Bible

(See also Turn! Turn! Turn! by Pete Seeger
and The Lord's Prayer by Sister Janet Mead).



...and yes,
I also remember seeing this movie,
and like those songs,
SEEING and HEARING
GOD'S LOVING and WARNING WORD Very Happy ,
and the mockery of GOD and HIS PROMISES,
that others did Crying or Very sad .
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Post  true lilly on Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:12 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:I was hoping you'd have a laugh Lilly,you get so
much attention,and you're a severely non touch play around type
girl.That picture El Kabong posted definitely was'nt you,I mean,you
describe yourself as a little old lady,...You're only 50-51...Have you
heard of hot milf...No,I spose you have'nt...

Hmmmmmm,or was he
refering to a picture you used as a fund raiser and was pissed off to
find you were'nt the advertised material...?

...oh please, give it up...yes, I still get hit on by men much younger...
no, I don't take up the offers...and..."I" am NOT The Topic...

...THIS IS...

true lilly wrote:
Sod-Haus...!!! wrote:

Swift gives the location of Lilliput and Blefuscu as Latitude 30°2′S, to the northwest of Van Diemen's Land.
Because this area is actually occupied by Australia,





And you're laughing at those who still refuse to see,
that The Conspiracy behind all conspiracies, is to hide
the real world evidences of the saving truth of God's Word,
from those who would not join God's Enemies (who KNOW
HE EXISTS and CAN'T LIE), while 'they've' plotted to try to,
'make Him a liar', by trying to take the land He described
and promised to His Faithful...???...that's 'funny' to you?

That's sad to me.

But, it is also something God warned us watch for, from the beginning.
Yet more evidence of the faithfulness of God's Word.
As He also told us He would hide and raise His own watchmen, Princes and Kings
to keep the reminders of the truth of His Word until the time God's Kingdom is,
re-established on this earth, from where the healing waters will flow, to heal,
not only Israel and Judah, but all the remaining of the Nations.

Which is very good news, for those with the ears to hear it, and,
the character of Spirit to repent of their worldly lusts, and willingly serve,
The Perfectly Just, Creator of Life.


REVELATIONS 22:2
In 1722 the midst 3319 of the street 4113 of it 846, and 2532 on either 2532 side 1782 1782 of the river 4215, [was there] the tree 3586 of life 2222, which bare 4160 twelve 1427 [manner of] fruits 2590, [and] yielded 591 her 846 fruit 2590 every 2596 1538 1520 month 3376: and 2532 the leaves 5444 of the tree 3586 [were] for 1519 the healing 2322 of the nations 1484.


ISAIAH 33:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously, without [others] having dealt
treacherously with you! As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled. As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

2
O Jehovah, show us favor. In you we have hoped.
Become our arm every morning, yes, our salvation in the time of distress.
3
At the sound of turmoil peoples have fled.
At your arising nations have been dispersed.
4
And the spoil of YOU people will actually be gathered [like] the cockroaches
when gathering in, like the onrush of locust swarms that is rushing against one.
5
Jehovah will certainly be put on high, for he is residing in the height.
He must fill Zion with justice and righteousness.
6
And the trustworthiness of your times must prove
to be a wealth of salvations—wisdom and knowledge,
the fear of Jehovah, which is his treasure.

7
Look! Their very heroes have cried out in the street;
the very messengers of peace will weep bitterly.
8
The highways have been made desolate; the one
passing over the path has ceased. He has broken the covenant;
he has contemned the cities; he has taken no account of mortal man.
9
The land has gone mourning, has withered away.
Leb´a·non has become abashed; it has moldered.
Shar´on has become like the desert plain;
and Ba´shan and Car´mel are shaking off [their leaves].

10
“Now I will rise up,” says Jehovah, “now I will exalt myself;
now I will lift myself up.
11
YOU people conceive dried grass; YOU will give birth to stubble.
YOUR own spirit, as a fire, will eat YOU up.
12
And peoples must become as the burnings of lime.
As thorns cut away, they will be set ablaze even with fire.
13
Hear, YOU men who are far away, what I must do!
And know, YOU who are nearby, my mightiness.
14
In Zion the sinners have come to be in dread;
shivering has grabbed hold of the apostates:
‘Who of us can reside for any time with a devouring fire?
Who of us can reside for any time with long-lasting conflagrations?’

15
“There is one who is walking in continual righteousness and
speaking what is upright, who is rejecting the unjust gain from frauds,
who is shaking his hands clear from taking hold on a bribe,
who is stopping up his ear from listening to bloodshed, and who
is closing his eyes so as not to see what is bad.
16
He is the one that will reside on the heights themselves;
his secure height will be craggy places difficult to approach.
His own bread will certainly be given [him];
his water supply will be unfailing.”

17
A king in his handsomeness is what your eyes will behold;
they will see a land far away.
18
Your own heart will comment in low tones on a frightful thing:
“Where is the secretary? Where is the one that does the paying out?
Where is the one counting the towers?”
19
No insolent people will you see, a people too deep in language to listen to,
of a stammering tongue without [your] understanding.
20
Behold Zion, the town of our festal occasions!
Your own eyes will see Jerusalem an undisturbed abiding place,
a tent that no one will pack up. Never will its tent pins be pulled out,
and none of its ropes will be torn in two.
21
But there the Majestic One, Jehovah, will be for us a place of rivers, of wide canals.
On it no galley fleet will go, and no majestic ship will pass over it.
22
For Jehovah is our Judge, Jehovah is our Statute-giver,
Jehovah is our King; he himself will save us.

23
Your ropes must hang loose; their mast they will not hold firmly erect;
they have not spread a sail.
At that time even spoil in abundance will have to be divided up;
the lame ones themselves will actually take a big plunder.
24
And no resident will say: “I am sick.”
The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#top
(and please, do care to study the full, root, descriptive, poetic meanings,
of every blessing Word
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cori wrote:

The friggon freemasons own this planet.

I'm just not the Godloving type.
That's why,
(unlike GOD'S FAITHFUL,
HIDDEN amongst those
YOU SO BITTERLY ENVY)
,
YOU ARE the
DEATH LOVING type
who HATES,

WISDOM and LIFE.


Psalms 5:1-12
To the director for Ne´hi·loth.
A melody of David.

1
To my sayings do give ear, O Jehovah;
Do understand my sighing.

2
Do pay attention to the sound of my cry for help,
O my King and my God, because to you I pray.

3
O Jehovah, in the morning you will hear my voice;
In the morning I shall address myself to you and be on the watch.

4
For you are not a God taking delight in wickedness;
No one bad may reside for any time with you.

5
No boasters may take their stand in front of your eyes.
You do hate all those practicing what is hurtful;

6
You will destroy those speaking a lie.
A man of bloodshed and deception Jehovah detests.

7
As for me, in the abundance of your loving-kindness
I shall come into your house,
I shall bow down toward your holy temple in fear of you.

8
O Jehovah, lead me in your righteousness by reason of my foes;
Make your way smooth before me.

9
For in their mouth there is nothing trustworthy;
Their inward part is adversity indeed.
Their throat is an opened burial place;
A smooth tongue they use.

10
God will certainly hold them guilty;
They will fall due to their own counsels.
In the multitude of their transgressions let there be a dispersing of them,
Because they have rebelled against you.

11
But all those taking refuge in you will rejoice;
To time indefinite they will cry out joyfully.

And you will block approach to them,
And those loving your name will exult in you.

12
For you yourself will bless anyone righteous, O Jehovah;
As with a large shield, with approval you will surround them.

...read on:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=5&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 1 & 2
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=1&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
The proverbs of Sol´o·mon the son of David, the king of Israel,
2
for one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding,
3
to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness,
4
to give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man knowledge and thinking ability.

5
A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man
of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction,
6to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7
The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.

8
Listen, my son, to the discipline of your father, and do not forsake the law of your mother.
9
For they are a wreath of attractiveness to your head and a fine necklace to your throat.

10
My son, if sinners try to seduce you, do not consent.
11
If they keep saying: “Do go with us. Do let us
lie in ambush for blood. Do let us lie in concealment for the innocent
men without any cause.
12
Let us swallow them down alive just like She´ol, even whole, like those going down into a pit.
13
Let us find all sorts of precious valuables. Let us fill our houses with spoil.
14
Your lot you ought to cast in among us. Let there come to be just one bag belonging to all of us”—
15
my son, do not go in the way with them. Hold back your foot from their roadway.
16
For their feet are those that run to sheer badness, and they keep hastening to shed blood. 17
For it is for nothing that the net is spread before the eyes of anything owning wings.
18
Consequently they themselves lie in ambush for the very blood of these; they lie in concealment for their souls.
19
Thus are the paths of everyone making unjust profit. It takes away the very soul of its owners.

20
True wisdom itself keeps crying aloud in the very street. In the public squares it keeps giving forth its voice.
21
At the upper end of the noisy streets it calls out. At the entrances of the gates into the city it says its own sayings:

22
“How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience,
and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright
ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge?
23
Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.

24
Because I have called out but YOU keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention,
25
and YOU keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof YOU have not accepted,
26
I also, for my part, shall laugh at YOUR own disaster, I shall mock when what YOU dread comes,
27
when what YOU dread comes just like a storm, and YOUR own
disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times
come upon YOU.
28
At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer;
they will keep looking for me, but they will not find me,
29
for the reason that they hated knowledge, and the fear of Jehovah they did not choose.
30
They did not consent to my counsel; they disrespected all my reproof.
31
So they will eat from the fruitage of their way, and they will be glutted with their own counsels.
32
For the renegading of the inexperienced ones is
what will kill them, and the easygoingness of the stupid is what will
destroy them.
33
As for the one listening to me, he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”


http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#top
1
My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself,
2
so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment;
3
if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself,
4
if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it,
5
in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God.

6
For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
7
And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield,
8
by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones.
9
In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.

10
When wisdom enters into your heart and knowledge itself becomes pleasant to your very soul,
11
thinking ability itself will keep guard over you, discernment itself will safeguard you,
12
to deliver you from the bad way, from the man speaking perverse things,
13
from those leaving the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness,
14
from those who are rejoicing in doing bad, who are joyful in the perverse things of badness; 15
those whose paths are crooked and who are devious in their general course;
16
to deliver you from the strange woman, from the foreign woman who has made her own sayings smooth,
17
who is leaving the confidential friend of her youth and who has forgotten the very covenant of her God.
18
For down to death her house does sink and down to those impotent in death her tracks.
19
None of those having relations with her will come back, nor will they regain the paths of those living.

20
The purpose is that you may walk in the way of good people and that the paths of the righteous ones you may keep.
21
For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
22
As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth;
and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.


PSALMS 119: 85 to 128

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=85&t=KJV#85

PSALMS 119:2
Happy are those observing his reminders;
With all the heart they keep searching for him.


...and REPAIRING The SPIRITUAL Gates
through which, the faithful, returning,

may enter into GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM...

NEHEMIAH 1, 2
& 3

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=1&t=KJV&q=NEHEMIAH
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=2&v=1&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Neh&c=3&v=1&t=KJV


ISAIAH 41:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=41&v=1&t=KJV#top

PROVERBS 4: 18, 19

But the path 734 of the just 6662
[is] as the shining 5051 light 216,
that shineth 215 more 1980 and
more unto the perfect 3559 day 3117.
The way 1870 of the wicked 7563
[is] as darkness 653:
they know 3045 not
at what they stumble 3782 .

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=4&v=18&t=KJV#top

Great Blue Hole, Coast of Belize

Royal anthem: God Save the Queen


sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-inca-secrets

...read and SEE...and...UNDERSTAND...
http://stonehengeguide.com/2011/04/29/sacsayhuaman-the-silent-keeper-of-the-
inca-secrets/









...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html




PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...



Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...



Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina



...have a real, close, look...
http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558

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Post  MoMo on Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:17 pm

and yet, Australia remains the Runt Continent,.....................................................................................................................................Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity



As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of Yahweh play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.



Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.
..................................................All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place.

1: Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all these innovations were mutually reinforcing.

Yahweh proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

Yahweh expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

Yahweh forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says Yahweh' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are Yahwehs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.
For that is the purpose of making the covenant
.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.
To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.
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Post  MoMo on Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:54 pm

Lilly, Queen of Bullshit of the Runt Continent of Australia!!!! Ahoy!!!!

Which Continent is the smallest of the 7 Continents?
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The continents are the great land masses of the earth. There are seven continent on Earth now: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America.

Continent Area in Square Miles
(Square Km) Percent of Total Land Area on Earth
The World 57,308,738 Sq. Miles (148,429,000 Sq. Km) 100%
Asia (plus the Middle East) 17,212,000 Sq. Miles (44,579,000 Sq. Km) 30.0%
Africa 11,608,000 Sq. Miles (30,065,000 Sq. Km) 20.3%
North America 9,365,000 Sq. Miles (24,256,000 Sq. Km) 16.3%
South America 6,880,000 Sq. Miles (17,819,000 Sq. Km) 12.0%
Antarctica 5,100,000 Sq. Miles (13,209,000 Sq. Km) 8.9%
Europe 3,837,000 Sq. Miles (9,938,000 Sq. Km) 6.7%

Australia (plus Oceania) 2,968,000 Sq. Miles (7,687,000 Sq. Km) 5.2%


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http://www.vbm-torah.org/jewphi.htm
Exile and Redemption


I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.

We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,

"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."

This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.

The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when

"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)

A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.

"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)

Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.

And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."

The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.

Cinderella and her sisters

Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.

Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.
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53b: A Covenant of Fate, Part 2
Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Psychological Background

Anti-semitism is a multi-faceted phenomenon, which lends itself to various analyses. I would like to demonstrate that the various dimensions of analysis do not contradict one another. In fact, their juxtaposition creates a complete picture. Here we will discuss the first level, the psychological dimension. To explain it, I will use a simple allegory. Psychologists often employ the Rorschach Test in their analysis of patients. The test uses a well-known technique known as the projective technique. The patient is asked to look at a series of pictures and explain what he sees. These pictures have no intrinsic meaning. In fact, they are simply ink blots on paper that created symmetrical designs when the paper was folded in two. As previously mentioned, the pictures do not represent anything, yet people look at them and explain them. The explanations do not exist in the pictures; they exist in the person's mind. This is an opening, through which the psychologists try to enter the inner world of the person, who "projects" what is inside himself onto the pictures.

This mechanism, according to many psychologists, can shed light on the phenomenon of anti-Semitism. The anti- Semite sees in the Jews negative qualities that threaten and endanger him. These characteristics don't exist in the "picture"; they only exist in the mind of the beholder. They are the projections of the anti-Semite, who uses the Jew as a blot of his own making, and upon which he projects the black sides of his inner world. This, in very general terms of course, refers to the psychological background of anti-Semitism. The fact that the Jew is a minority, a foreigner who is relatively easily identified, was a psychological cause that contributed to the choice of the Jew as the screen upon which the anti-Semites threw their fears and hatred. This is actually the explanation for a number of noticeable characteristics of anti-Semitism. We find many types and forms of attacks on Jews. In one place the Jew is described as having one trait, and in another place he is accused of the opposite characteristic. This is true regarding both his personal traits and his social and political traits. Thus, for example, the Jew is portrayed as the capitalist trying to take over the world, and on the other hand as the revolutionary, who is attempting to weaken the power of wealth and utterly abolish personal ownership. The fact that we are faced with a psychological phenomenon means that we must not search for logic here. All anti-Semites project their various and contradictory fears upon the Jew.

Anti-Semitism and Its Causes: The Social Basis

Whoever thinks that this analysis has exhausted the topic of anti-Semitism is fooling himself. Anti-Semitism is a social, not an individual, phenomenon. In addition to its psychological aspects, we must study anti-Semitism from its social and general perspectives as well. A view of history and philosophy in recent generations will be of help in our attempt. Let us therefore move on to the second level of our analysis, the collective, political and social level. Until now we have examined a phenomenon that has already been expressed by the earliest thinkers of the last century. They viewed anti-Semitism as part of Xenophobia, and indeed, the phenomena we have expressed until now are merely details within a much larger context, that of the strains that exist between various groups, between the majority and the minority, and even between various races who live together within one society. From this perspective, there is no essential difference between the hatred of Jews and the hostility that exists towards other races, such as blacks. However, this is but one level of the explanation. Until now we have identified the roots of the problem, and its individual expressions.

If anti-Semitism were only an individual psychological phenomenon, it would be similar to other forms of discrimination and hostility; however, in the modern world anti-Semitism takes on a different hue. Various groups have used it for political purposes. We can trace clear attempts to use psychological hostility – which, it seems, has deep religious roots – to forward political aims. Thus, modern anti-Semitism was born, and acquired a more and more tragic and satanic form. The widespread use of this technique began in Czarist Russia, in the struggle to smother those revolutionary attempts that finally toppled the Czarist rule. Through the Czarist secret police, the rulers attempted to identify revolutionary action with the activities of the Jews. The rulers of Czarist Russia fought against certain phenomena, and in this fight they created a kind of equation, which was supposed to prove their claims. The Czarist secret police created one of the documents that became an anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." This book reveals the so-called secret plan weaved by the leaders of the Jews, to take over the entire world. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" became a holy book among the anti-Semites.

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was simply a rewriting of a French book that attributed ambitions to take over the world to Napoleon. This booklet is called "a dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montasque," or "Politics of the Nineteenth Century." These accusations were not at all directed towards the Jews and Judaism. However, the dialogue was adopted and transformed into the protocols of an imaginary group whose members were the world leaders of Judaism, attempting to take over the politics of various European countries.

Even the Czar himself, Nikolai the Second, although far from bearing the Jews any fond feelings, saw that the book was a fake and opposed its publication. Despite this, the first Russian edition appeared in 1905. A number of years later, other editions began to appear. Some of the editions were altered and corrected in order to make it possible to accuse the Jews of various catastrophes that took place between one edition and another. At various opportunities, it became the topic of public court cases, in which the book was proved to be a forgery. However, this of course did not check the book's growing popularity, particularly in the wake of the Nazi influence. The book influenced various writers, who were mistakenly taken in and convinced of its authenticity. Thus, for example, Henry Ford was inspired by "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to write "The International Jew," in which he continues these accusations. Various other books were written in its wake until recent years.

This is an example of a lie and forgery that the power of truth could not effectually surmount. This abominable book became a justification of Nazism and the genocide that followed in its wake. This is an example of the phenomena that we must deal with. Forgeries spread throughout the world, and people are convinced.


49c: Cinderella, part 3:


The book of Job represents the conflict between Judaism and the other central religions. Both Islam and Christianity, throughout the generations, have continually employed a claim in the anti-Jewish argument that can be termed "the exile proof." The success of these religions is seemingly a proof that God is on their side. I propose to prove the opposite theory, that it is the anti-hero who is God's ally.

Our forefathers knew that the exile was a trial to be overcome. The Jew refuses to accept the claims of his friends; he insists upon the justice of his path. This insistence has a sublimity to it, which is expressed in the Jewish existence in exile. The members of the Great Assembly recognized this when they coined the phrase we use in our prayers, "the great mighty and awesome God." When the prophets saw the destruction, they omitted parts of the formula one by one, and questioned His might and greatness. These omissions are built upon the approach that says that truth is revealed on the battlefield, or through political or financial success. The members of the Great Assembly re-instituted the authentic phrase "the great, mighty and awesome God" and claimed that paradoxically, through Jewish existence in exile, God's greatness and might are expressed. On the one hand, the irrational existence of the Jews in exile is the miraculous existence of one lamb among seventy wolves. Yet on the other hand, the exile expresses the fact that the Jewish people accepted the yoke of Heaven, not from a state where God made sure they lacked for nothing, not from a state of military success or financial abundance, but from poverty and suffering, without even the hope of change in the foreseeable future.

Cinderella's sisters found proof of their preferred status in their success. However, their success was, of course, helped by the sword. Christianity and Islam used the sword, and their covenant with the sword, to take over the world. Job, who worships God within his suffering, reaches the highest level of divine worship. Whenever Jews chose to suffer rather than utter the one traitorous word that could have altered their fate, it was a constant sanctification of God's name. Putting the Jewish people (and Job) through suffering was God's great gamble against Satan, and cosmically, their continued acceptance of God was a greater proof of the truth of Judaism than a triumph on the battlefield. This perhaps sounds surprising. However, if we would possess a consciousness of the truth, we would be able to understand the profound value of our exile and our suffering. It is for the lack of this consciousness of the truth that the king is justified in his criticism of the Jewish people; as the Chaver says, "You have found the place of my shame, King of Khazar" (1:115).

We are sometimes missing an awareness of the significance of the life that we live. We sometimes live with no awareness of our position and no understanding of what is really taking place in our lives. The Jew always knew that he could escape his fate by uttering one word, yet he refused to do it. We must be aware of this heroism, that we accepted our suffering out of love and longing for God. The Jew knows this, yet sometimes he does not know that he knows it.

Rihal teaches us that the suffering of the Jews in exile was a sacrifice for the sake of the Torah. It was a life of martyrdom, the highest level exalted by the Christians and Moslems. Rihal reiterated the principle (2:34, 4:22) that many of the values extolled in Christian and Moslem theology are Jewish values that were fulfilled by the Jewish people. The most obvious example is the section in Yishayahu (52:13-53-12) that speaks of the suffering servant of God. God's suffering servant is actually the Jewish people. The Christians applied this section to their Messiah. Rihal restores the section to its authentic meaning.

Rihal fought against a phenomenon that can be termed stolen identity. The phenomenon has many levels. Christianity claimed to be the true Israel. Islam claimed that the Koran is the authentic holy writ. Our return to the land of Israel was accompanied by a similar process. The Palestinian charter is a reworking of the principles of Zionism.

Despite this re-evaluation of suffering, there is no doubt that it is impossible to discuss history without also speaking from the perspective of chapter 42 of Job. Judaism believes that redemption is assured. It is not possible that God will suffer evil forever. However, we are discussing reality from the perspective of an earlier chapter. We don't have the perspective of the ending. Our generation must view itself as fortunate because we can read the first few verses of the final chapter, the first glimmerings of redemption. We see the course of history changing. Rihal, in contrast, lived at a low point of Jewish history, when the Christians and the Moslems were at the height of their power. Each ruled over half the world and claimed that their success was an expression of divine blessing. Judaism is Job's great gamble against his friends. It is the gamble of the sufferer when redemption is beyond the scope of his horizon. The response of Job/the Jewish people is "Even if He kills me, I still hope to Him" (13:15), and at the same time, "I will wait for [Messiah's] arrival every day."


49d: Cinderella, part 4:

Exile and Redemption

The faith in redemption is paramount in our theology. The Torah, stamped with divine truth, prophesies the redemption of the Jewish people. God has foreknowledge of world history. Therefore, we pray to Him to involve Him in our redemption.

Rihal teaches us that the process of world redemption continues to take place, even while the Jewish people are in exile. Divine providence functions in ways that are mysterious to us, and seem to bring about the complete opposite of redemption. Rihal and the Rambam after him (Rambam, laws of kings, chapter 11), teach us that the mysterious workings of divine providence stand behind the success of Christianity and Islam as well. The message of Judaism was spread to the ends of the earth through these messengers. Thus Rabbi Abraham, son of the Rambam writes in his father's name:

"By keeping my Torah, you will be world leaders, your relation to them as that of a priest to his flock, the world will follow in your footsteps and imitate your actions and follow your paths. This is the explanation I received from my father of blessed memory." (Rabbi Abraham son of the Rambam, commentary on Bereshit and Shemot)

This idea is repeated in Rabbi Bachya ben Asher's "Kad Kemach:"

"And the reason for the dispersion in my opinion...is that the Jews be spread among the nations...and they will teach them the belief in the existence of God and of the divine providence that hovers over every detail of human existence." (Kad Kemach, Redemption)

Later this idea was expressed by Rabbi Chayim ben Betzalel, brother of the Maharal. In his interpretation of the prophecy of Isaiah the servant of God he writes,

"And we may also explain: God wished to oppress the Jews and disperse them among the nations for the sake of the goodness of the other nations who are also the work of His hands; through the Jews who are dispersed throughout the world the true faith will also be spread throughout the world...for God desired the nations also to hold the true faith...for this reason they [the Jews] are called children of Yizrael, [literally, God will plant], for they are the seed that God planted throughout the world, like the person who plants his wheat and does not throw it down in one place but spreads it to all the edges of the fields, so the Jews were dispersed to the four corners of the earth, so that through them the true faith would spread throughout the world. (The Book of Life, Book of Redemption and Salvation, chapter 7)

Exile is a trial, a trial that is part of a divine plan of history. However, the proof of the truth lies also in the ending of the book of Job, which closes, despite everything, with redemption. The key to understanding this ending lies in the verse that tells us that God "returned the exiles of Job" (Job 42:10). This verse loses its meaning if it does not create an association with other similar verses: "when God shall return the exiles of Zion...Return, O God, our exiles." The return of the sons and daughters of Job represents the return of the nation after the exile. The end of the book prophesies the redemption, and bears witness that despite everything, history owes a debt to the Jewish people. Ultimately, history will be altered, and the world will witness the redemption and the return.

We cannot think about the history of our ancestors in exile without an awareness of their greatness. However here too, thank God, our situation has changed. We, the modern successors of the Kuzari, must emphasize different things today. These are the ideas Rihal will teach us in the end of the fifth section of the Kuzari. We must understand that in our day the exile is a trap, and our attitude towards it must be one of repudiation and aliya (literally, going up) to Israel. The status of exile today can be summed up in one sentence: exile today is not a punishment, it is a sin.

The Dry Bones

Rihal discusses the question of the fate of the Jewish people in his discussion of the suffering of the individual (3:11). He teaches us that the meaning of suffering for the individual must reflect the meaning of the suffering of the group as well.

"For when the confusions of logic arouse in his heart the length of the exile and the dispersion of the people and the dwindling of their numbers - he must first comfort himself with accepting divinely proscribed fate as I have said, and then with the attempt to punish sins, and then with the reward and punishment which await in the World to Come and cleaving to the Divine Presence in this world."

A third stage is added to the first two responses to suffering. To the philosophical stage in which we accept the meaning of evil, we add the understanding of reward and punishment, and to these we add a third stage, the persuasion that the sufferings of the past build us up towards the future. This is true both with regard to the individual and the nation. To this Rihal adds:

"And if Satan brings him to despair by saying, "shall these bones live?" for our imprint among the nations has been greatly reduced and our memory is forgotten, as it is said, "our bones have dried up we have lost hope, we are doomed," he must think of the miracle of the exodus from Egypt...and then it will not seem impossible to him that we will return to our former state even when there will be only one person left of us, as it is written, "fear not, worm of Ya'akov." for what is left of man after he becomes a worm in his grave?"

Here we meet once again with Rihal the daring commentator. There are many ways that the term "worm of Ya'akov" is commonly explained. Particularly well known is the explanation of the Sages that, like the worm, our power is in our mouths. However, Rihal takes an amazing leap of interpretation here. He takes "worm of Ya'akov" to mean a worm on a dead body, the final sign of life. Despite it all, we will rise again.

Here we see, regarding both the individual and the nation, that suffering is first and foremost a trial. This is in essence Job's question. Job asks the question of suffering, and refuses to accept the standard philosophical answers. Yet, he believes. In next week's lecture, we will analyze the meaning and essence of this faith.....................49e: Cinderella, part 5:

Exile and Redemption


I would like to explain the meaning of Job's faith by means of a contrast between two situations in modern literature. I will bring the first example from a short story by a well-known author, who inherited the Jewish tradition from his parents' home. This tradition has not disappeared despite the power of the evil inclination. He himself is very aware of this struggle, and does not want to lose his Jewish roots. I am speaking of Isaac Bashevis Singer. I will refer to one of his stories, entitled "Zeidlus the First." Zeidlus is of course a Latin play on the Yiddish name Zeidel. Singer tells us of a man named Zeidel, a learned Jew whom Satan attempts to lead astray. All of his initial efforts fail. The regular temptations do not work on Zeidel. However, the temptation of pride is too strong for Zeidel to resist. How does one tempt a Jew with pride? If you convert, says Satan, you will go far; you will become Pope Zeidlus the First. Zeidel falls into the trap. However, his life does not turn out exactly the way Satan promised him.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov teaches that Satan is like the person who shows a child his closed hand and promises, "if you do such and such I will give you what is in my hand." The child does what he is asked, and afterwards, when the hand opens, the child sees that it is empty.

We will not go into all of Zeidel's adventures. We will only say that he failed at everything, and when Satan appears at the moment of death to take his soul, and Zeidel sees him, he exclaims,

"Is it you Satan, angel of death?"
"Yes Zeidel," replies the Tempter, "I have come for you. And it won't help you to repent or confess, so don't try."
"Where are you taking me?" he asked.
"Straight to Gehenna."
"If there is a Gehenna, there is also a God," Zeidel said, his lips trembling.
"This proves nothing," I retorted.
"Yes it does," he said. "If Hell exists, everything exists. If you are real, He is real. Now take me to where I belong. I am ready."

This idea, of the discovery of God beyond evil, is completely opposed to a message that appears in one of Ingmar Bergman's "philosophical" films, "The Seventh Seal." In the film – which has a Christian background - a knight appears who asks the final questions, and in one of the dialogues of the film someone who has seen the angel of death claims that he looked into his eyes, but beyond them one could see nothing. In contrast to this, the meaning of the story of "Zeidlus the First" is that beyond evil one can see good. This is the great leap that we must take: the leap from the absurd into a meaningful existence.

The Torah concludes with a commandment to study a song and remember it from generation to generation, so that it will exist forever. This is the song of "Hearken" ("Ha'azinu"). The Torah explains that days will come when

"I will hide My face from them and they will be prey, and will be beset by many evils and troubles and they will say on that day, 'it is because my God is not with me that we have been beset by these evils'... And now, write this song for yourselves and teach it to the children of Israel, place it in their mouths, so that this song will be a witness for the Children of Israel." (Devarim 31:17-19)

A time of great suffering will come, and the nation will ask the question, is God indeed among us? Or in a more modern version, "Can one believe in God after Auschwitz?" The Torah commanded us to study this song, so that we will know that despite the pain and evil, God is with us. This is the song that comes to teach us that even in the midst of evil, God is with us.

"How can one [man] chase a thousand and two [men] pursue ten thousand, if their Rock had not sold them, and God had not trapped them." (Devarim 32:30)

Despite everything, the world is not left to its own devices. This is a prophetic promise given to us so that we will not give up hope.

And here I will dare to make the terrible leap, towards the eyes of the Angel of Death. In our generation we have learned something beyond what Rihal has taught us. We can learn about the truth, as Rihal said, from the fact that God revealed himself at Mount Sinai and chose the nation that He loves, the Chosen People, and gave them the Torah. However, to our sorrow, in history there is another way as well. If Satan appeared, and I was indeed certain that he was Satan, I could learn, paradoxically, from him, that the Chosen People are the nation that Satan recognizes and announces to be his enemy. History has shown us many anti-Semites, great and small. However, Satan himself was none other than Nazism. Nazism appeared and, pointing at the Jewish people, announced, "This is my enemy." We have learned that the Jewish people are the Chosen People - from the evidence given by Satan. Satan did not hate the Jews because we were opposed to his political ideas or because we disturbed his plans. The child and the old man, who were powerless to harm anyone, were also Satan's enemies. To some extent, the Holocaust was an Encounter at Auschwitz, parallel to the Encounter at Mount Sinai, in which Satan appeared and showed us the way to the great leap, the need to see beyond the empty eyes of the Angel of Death. Beyond them there is something else. It is not emptiness. Zeidlus the First was right: "If you are real, He is real."

The world understands this logic, even if only subconsciously. We can understand this if we analyze different reactions to the Holocaust. The anti-Semite complains that the Nazis did not finish the job. We are also familiar with the attempts of Nazi sympathizers who want to deny the Holocaust, and sometimes we hear both claims at once. This is one side of the range of responses. However, on the other side we hear more sophisticated denials. For many years we have been witnesses to an attempt, by the Poles for example, to deny the fact that the Jews were the victims of the Holocaust. However, the most evident attempt in this area is without a doubt the establishment of the Carmelite monastery at Auschwitz. Here we are faced with an attempt to rewrite history: Christianity was one of the victims of Auschwitz. The Church did this, for example, by making a Jewish convert to Christianity into a Christian saint. This is because, consciously or subconsciously, everyone whose conscience was not destroyed by Nazism understands that every honest person should have been at Auschwitz. There Satan made the selection. And whoever was not chosen by him to be wiped out, cannot possibly be the chosen one of God.

Cinderella and her sisters

Today we can understand this because of the perspective that we have on the first verses of the last chapter of the book of Job. From this perspective, which stems from a sense that we are at the beginning of the Redemption, we ought to reread the end of the story of Cinderella. How did Cinderella treat her sisters after her rise to greatness? I leave the reader to do his own homework, but I promise him that a look at the various versions will be very interesting. What God expects from Job is clear. God expects Job to pray for his friends who have constantly directed their arrows at him. This is a very difficult moral paradox. However, it helps us to understand the secret of the ending of the book. The redemption of Job represents the return of the Jewish people to their land. The verse actually uses the phrase "returned his exiles" (42:10), which is essentially a national term. Now we also understand another difficulty. His first children are lost to him, yet Job's comfort - a comfort that does not erase the pain - is in his second children. The Holocaust was an event that can never be forgotten, and we are left with problems that cannot be rationally explained away. However, now we see the return of Job's exiles, and the prayer that he wishes for the whole world: may sins, not sinners, be obliterated.

Job's friends, Cinderella's sisters, are the other religions that point an accusing finger at Job: Job, you are suffering, this is proof that you have sinned, this means that God has rejected you. The book ends with the meeting with the prince: "and God returned the exiles of Job" - this is the Redemption.


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Post  true lilly on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:45 pm

true lilly wrote:...mmm...yesss...strange news...

August 6
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2011 – A student is sitting on her couch with a wool sweater and socks in Ankara at 3 a.m.
2011 – A student is sitting on her couch with a wool sweater and socks in Ankara at 3 a.m....

Ankara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankara - Cached
Ankara is the capital of Turkey and the country's second largest city
after Istanbul. The city has a mean elevation of 938 metres (3077 ft),
and as of 2010 ...


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News for Ankara

The Guardian
Ankara Outlines New Role of Military
Wall Street Journal - 2 days ago
By
MARC CHAMPION ISTANBUL—
Turkey's government on Wednesday began laying out details of
the civil-military order they want to see, making it clear even ...

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Ankara - Cappadocia - Tarsus Adana -
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Leaving Ankara and
passing by the muddy shores of Tuz Gölü (Salt Lake), the first sight of
major interest that you will stumble upon the venerable Cappadoccia
(Kapadokya), the mythical "land of the horses." High up on the Anatolian
Plateau, the barren hills of Cappadoccia seem like something more out
of a fantasy novel than a prime tourist destination, but it is one of
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http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Ankara

Turkey foils Al Qaeda plot against U.S. Embassy
in Ankara, uncovers bomb-making chemicals, rifles

BY Larry Mcshane
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, July 14th 2011, 4:00 AM
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/07/14/2011-07-14_turkey_foils_qaeda_plot_against_us_embassy.html#ixzz1UDRWuphK
Ankara must lead the pressure against Damascus

Moammar Gadhafi further helped international consciousness
to be garnered when he threatened publicly to wipe out rebels
in Benghazi and consequently assured a rapid United Nations
Security Council resolution to be passed to legitimize the military...
Full Article at Hurriet Daily News

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA 2

"NINNY" alright...the lot of 'them'...
__________________________
Quote: ninny...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2816

Originally Posted by tintin
THANKSGIVING means TURKEYS.

rofl. does she have an iPhone in her hand?
___________________________________________________________________

Stanley Melbourne Bruce's Cigarette Case

Stanley Melbourne Bruce was born into a wealthy commercial family,
and was an outstanding athlete at school and later Cambridge University,
where he qualified as a barrister.

He was in England when war was declared in 1914, and enlisted in the
British Army.
He was awarded the Military Cross, a high order award for
bravery in battle, at Gallipoli.


He was wounded and returned to Australia in 1917. He entered the
Commonwealth Parliament in 1918, and served as Treasurer,
and then Prime Minister
.
He served as Australia’s High Commissioner to Britain between
1933 and 1945.


Until the day he died,
Stanley
Melbourne Bruce
kept two photographs in his study

one of his wife and one of
Turkish President Mustafa Kemal Atatürk,
the founder of the modern Turkish state.

As young men they were enemies at Gallipoli, but during the post-war years
of international reconstruction, they forged a mutual admiration as
passionate advocates of secularism.


After the League of Nations Montreux conference in 1936,
that successfully organised the international passage of warships
through the Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits of Turkey,

Atatürk presented Bruce
with a gold cigarette case, which
he treasured for the rest of his life.


Stanley Melbourne Bruce (1883 – 1967) was
Prime Minister of Australia from February 1923 to October 1929

Stanley
Melbourne Bruce’s cigarette case is held
at the National Archives of Australia in Canberra

http://dl.nfsa.gov.au/module/1174/


Gold cigarette case from the Duke and Duchess of York
Albert,
the Duke of York (later King George VI)
formally opened Parliament
House in Canberra on 9 May 1927.

To mark the occasion, the Duke and
Duchess
presented Prime Minister Bruce
with a gold cigarette case

featuring a diamond monogram ‘EA’ –
Elizabeth and Albert.
(Photographer: Angus Kendon)...
...
BUT...
HE KEPT Atatürk's
as his Life Long Treasure...


...but 'they' have ALWAYS IGNORED THESE REAL CONNECTIONS
BETWEEN REAL WORLD CHANGERS...even though 'they' could play
'their' MISLEADING GAME of TWISTING WORDS & MEANINGS,
that 'just happens' to tie in with 'their',
BACARDI/BAT/BATMAN/JOKER
'links' in those posts...
i.e. BRUCE (Wayne)=MELBOURNE=BATMAN...


John Batman (21 January 1801 – 6 May 1839)...When he found the current site of central Melbourne
he noted in his diary,
"This will be the place for a village."[1][2]
and declared the land "Batmania"...

was an Australian grazier, businessman and explorer
who is best known for
his role in the founding of a settlement
which became Melbourne
and the colony of Victoria.
1880s Artist impression of Batman's Treaty being signed
His parents, William and Mary Batman,
came to Sydney in 1797 aboard the Ganges.
John was born in 1801 at Rosehill, Parramatta
(now a suburb of Sydney).
In 1821 John and brother Henry journeyed to
Van Diemen's Land (now known as
Tasmania)
to settle on land in the north-east near Ben Lomond
LOTS here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batman


Bust of Stanley Bruce
by sculptor Wallace Anderson
located in the
Prime Minister's Avenue

in the
Ballarat Botanical Gardens.


Maritime Industries crisis

Prime Minister Bruce holding a meeting with
Prime Minister-elect Scullin
a day before Scullin's swearing in.


...An independent liberal candidate's preferences flowed mostly to
Holloway
, thus making Bruce the first sitting Prime Minister to lose his
seat.
The only other sitting Australian prime minister to be defeated
in his own electorate is
John Howard, at the 2007 election.


Bruce divided the rest of his life between London and Melbourne.
He remained Australian High Commissioner until 1945;
subsequently he represented Australia on various UN bodies,
and his name was considered for the position of
United Nations Secretary-General.

He was the chairman of the World Food Council for five years.

Bruce
was appointed as the first Chancellor of the Australian National University
and served from 1951 until 1961.

...funny to, that WIKI's "RANDOM" articles, brought me here last night:

Archibald Fisken CMG
OBE


Member of the Australian Parliament
for Ballaarat

Fisken was born at Ballarat, Victoria,
to grazier Archibald James Fisken and Beatrice Mary, née Wanliss.
He attended E.N. Maryatt's Church of England Grammar School for Boys,
Ballarat College and Geelong Church of England Grammar School
before his 1916 commission in the Royal Field Artillery.

He served on the Western Front from 1916 to 1918;
in 1918 he was awarded the Military Cross and promoted to lieutenant,
although he was also wounded.


Returning from the war,
Fisken maintained the family property
(Lal Lal, in the family since 1846)
at Yendon.


He was elected to the Buninyong Shire Council in 1922
and remained a councillor until his death,
being president 1931-32, 1946-47, 1957-58 and 1966-67.


He was prominent in the community, both as a sportsman and as a pastoralist.

He married Elspeth Anne Cameron on 20 February 1924 at Ross, Tasmania.
Fisken retired from parliament in 1937, stating that
he wished to focus on his appointment as
chairman of the Australian Meat Board.

His grandson is
Liberal Senator Michael Ronaldson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Fisken

...and sorry, 'they' have REMOVED KEY Images again, but these,
from 2008 & 2009, are examples of what
REAL, CURRENT CONNECTIONS, IN THE REAL WORLD,
'they' have and continue to ignore...
while PROMOTING 'themselves' "AS GODS"...


Quote:
cori

Yep, those 'KRAFTY KRAUTS'
invent an excuse to make a FALSE 'Israel',
with their JEW SLAUGHTER,
then jump on the RAT LINE to CONTINUE Their EVILS
PROMOTING America as 'The Land',
while quietly continuing to TAKE OVER THE REAL ZION,
by Stealth...

Kraft consumes Cadbury
as Brown warns no
UK job cuts
19/01 20:00 CET
Food
http://www.euronews.net/2010/01/19/k...o-uk-job-cuts/
...oh, and also ask yourselves WHY, after years of
highlighting the SMART INVESTMENTS that 'experts'
advise AGAINST, that cori could NEVER acknowledge
my posts, other than to spit vile, hate filled, bitter,
BALD FACED LIES about my character, AND ASK FOR
ME TO BE BEATEN, AGAIN...IF, "cori" does want The,
TRUE FUTURE NEWS, 'Out There'...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...p?p=1058301387
Will your awkward obsession with me ever stop, Jealousily?
____________________________________________________
Will you ever stop believing
"YOU" ARE The "CORE" of ALL Things GERMANIC
and CONTROL THE WHOLE WORLD and
ALL LANGUAGES...I'm posting about what NONE
of "Your Team" DARE post and
ALWAYS FLOOD OVER when I DO...

The DIRECT, ACTUAL Connection between
KRAFT, VEGEMITE, WAR, BALLARAT and MY HOME
in YENDON, ex East BUNINYONG=CANAAN,
as REVEALED through GOD'S Word and
THE OLDEST LANGUAGES of Australian Natives,
the Oldest Peoples who's History of CREATION
FITS GENESIS.

yes, that's right, reminding folk of yet more
FUTURE NEWS, it HELPS People to KNOW in Advance,
what "you"/"they" BURY, under more CODED MESSAGES
TO "Lone Nutters" to go out on SLAUGHTER Sprees
.

Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...










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true lilly wrote:
09-12-2009, 12:39 PM #1069
Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa
Is it just me, or is there a bit of
An OWL down at
The EUREKA POOL/EUREKA CENTRE Park...


sorry, my google earth won't work...
but it does remind me of an EVIL thought I had
during my HARASSMENT last night...

TATTOOS are Coded Language to...
remember how NAZIS made Lamp Shades
out of HUMAN TATTOOED SKINS...
Ilse Koch

The Bitch of Buchenwald
[loose translation of camp-era nickname
"Hexe"=witch,
used by English press during trial]


This is a picture of a lampshade ...
The drawing is a tattoo that was on the man's chest.

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/...women/ilse.htm
imagine if BABY FUCKERS/TRADERS
were NOT ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE ANY MORE....


evil owl tattoo

Bam's tatt of his google eyed, mumbling,
convicted pedophile uncle Don Vito...

http://forum.tattootattoo.info/index...opic,20.0.html

OUT! OUT! DAMN SPOT...
before you're spotted
and it's too late to turn around

AND EVEN MORE on this page, again, fobbed off as meaningless
by the popular and powerful...and YOU NOW what MEANS!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...1956&page=1698

BTW, 'spot' didn't get out in time...
stayed and stole even more from me,
and now is being 'eaten alive' by the
WITCHES HE GROVELS TO IN FEAR...
BACK IN BLACK...
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Post  true lilly on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:55 am

2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003



Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.

Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel

Before
(removed)
After

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake

People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an
undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that
killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*


‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011

Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011

to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)

A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.

http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137


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BALLARAT...



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Swarm


Queen Bee


Eureka Tower, Melbourne


Shrine of Remembrance


Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck


Arts Precinct, Melbourne


Government House, Melbourne


Long Shadows


Eureka Centre, Ballarat


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It's a Cinderella story.
To whom belong these shoes?




They belong to these
young kids who have a long
FUTURE in front of them.



Cinderella and the.....


The GOLDEN road
to AUSTRALIA


Jenna Bush and Hager
in Crawford Texas.


CINDERELLA Crawford

Cinderella's mother was
Jennifer
WALKER
On the SHOE page Cinderella
and Wizard of OZ are
mentioned next to each
other....

Third one (out of three) is the RED SHOES by Hans
Christian Anderson.

Princess Mary Donaldson is
H.C. Anderson Ambassador to
Australia. Three Books on
the shoe page. Cinderella, Wiz
of Oz and the Red Shoes.


H.C. Anderson, Mary Donaldson
and a Suri Cruise with

A RED SHOE

And Tom from Syracuse. And it
was in SYRACRUISE
that Archimedes shouted

EUREKA!!


EUREKA Ballarat
AUSTRALIA
But "tintin" also steals your posts a and doesn't quote the source :
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052

ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...

Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor
.

TRADITIONAL...



An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.


Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada


PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...


...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.
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Post  true lilly on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:12 am

Twisted Evil WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE POST ON
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
(from other threads it was quoted in)
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.
Rolling Eyes


2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003



Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.

Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel

Before
(removed)
After

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake

People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an
undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that
killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*


‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011

Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011

to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)

A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.

http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137


Eureka Street
Ballarat
Australia
3350




...BALLARAT
TURKEY...



...TURKEY
BALLARAT...



BALLARAT VICTORIA

MELBOURNE VICTORIA

Eastern evening

Eureka!

Eureka! Gold


Swarm


Queen Bee


Eureka Tower, Melbourne


Shrine of Remembrance


Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck


Arts Precinct, Melbourne


Government House, Melbourne


Long Shadows


Eureka Centre, Ballarat


Eureka Centre, Ballarat

http://flickriver.com/photos/adonline/tags/eureka/




We love Tintin,
Snowy and all their friends !

We are very excited to bring the official Tintin
merchandise to Australia for the first time.

We also have the entire range of Tintin
books in French and Dutch -
something that has never been
available before in Australia
!

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tintin wrote:

11-05-2008, 03:33 PM#4789


It's a Cinderella story.
To whom belong these shoes?




They belong to these
young kids who have a long
FUTURE in front of them.



Cinderella and the.....


The GOLDEN road
to AUSTRALIA


Jenna Bush and Hager
in Crawford Texas.


CINDERELLA Crawford

Cinderella's mother was
Jennifer
WALKER
On the SHOE page Cinderella
and Wizard of OZ are
mentioned next to each
other....

Third one (out of three) is the RED SHOES by Hans
Christian Anderson.

Princess Mary Donaldson is
H.C. Anderson Ambassador to
Australia. Three Books on
the shoe page. Cinderella, Wiz
of Oz and the Red Shoes.


H.C. Anderson, Mary Donaldson
and a Suri Cruise with

A RED SHOE

And Tom from Syracuse. And it
was in SYRACRUISE
that Archimedes shouted

EUREKA!!


EUREKA Ballarat
AUSTRALIA
But "tintin" also steals your posts a and doesn't quote the source :
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052

ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...

Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor
.

TRADITIONAL...



An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.


Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada


PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...


...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.

Last edited by vera susa; 11-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.

WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE POST ON
"TINTIN'S" BALLARAT TRAVELS?
EVERYONE KNOWS
"TINTIN" SPENT 3 WEEKS IN MY HOUSE,
DOING DAY TRIPS, EVERYDAY.


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Re: David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Post  true lilly on Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:45 am

2003 IRAN Bam earthquake
Date December 26, 2003



Bam in September 2003,
three months before the earthquake.

Before and after pictures
of the Bam Citadel

Before
(removed)
After

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake

People across Asia paused today
to remember the day five years ago*
when an
undersea earthquake
unleashed a devastating wave
that
killed more than 220,000 peopleLast edited by vera susa; 26-12-2009 at 08:17 AM.*


‘Earth on the edge’ – Melbourne 2011

Thousands of scientists will meet
in Melbourne in 2011

to discuss issues affecting our oceans,
climate, water and earth. (CSIRO)

A major conference to be held in Melbourne in 2011
will focus the world’s attention on the broad issues
of a sustainable planet.

http://www.csiro.au/news/Earth-on-the-edge-2011.html

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=137


Eureka Street
Ballarat
Australia
3350




...BALLARAT
TURKEY...



...TURKEY
BALLARAT...



BALLARAT VICTORIA

MELBOURNE VICTORIA

Eastern evening

Eureka!

Eureka! Gold


Swarm


Queen Bee


Eureka Tower, Melbourne


Shrine of Remembrance


Melbourne, from Eureka Skydeck


Arts Precinct, Melbourne


Government House, Melbourne


Long Shadows


Eureka Centre, Ballarat


Eureka Centre, Ballarat

http://flickriver.com/photos/adonline/tags/eureka/









We love Tintin,
Snowy and all their friends !

We are very excited to bring the official Tintin
merchandise to Australia for the first time.

We also have the entire range of Tintin
books in French and Dutch -
something that has never been
available before in Australia
!

[url=http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:DvYuhAusWL4J:www.pinkbear.com.au/
australia
tintin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a]http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a[/url]

tintin wrote:

11-05-2008, 03:33 PM#4789


It's a Cinderella story.
To whom belong these shoes?




They belong to these
young kids who have a long
FUTURE in front of them.



Cinderella and the.....


The GOLDEN road
to AUSTRALIA


Jenna Bush and Hager
in Crawford Texas.


CINDERELLA Crawford

Cinderella's mother was
Jennifer
WALKER
On the SHOE page Cinderella
and Wizard of OZ are
mentioned next to each
other....

Third one (out of three) is the RED SHOES by Hans
Christian Anderson.

Princess Mary Donaldson is
H.C. Anderson Ambassador to
Australia. Three Books on
the shoe page. Cinderella, Wiz
of Oz and the Red Shoes.


H.C. Anderson, Mary Donaldson
and a Suri Cruise with

A RED SHOE

And Tom from Syracuse. And it
was in SYRACRUISE
that Archimedes shouted

EUREKA!!


EUREKA Ballarat
AUSTRALIA
But "tintin" also steals your posts a and doesn't quote the source :
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=356052

ENGLAND"S BIG PICTURE:
BBC...

Competitors in traditional costume
take part in the carriage driving event at
the Royal Windsor Horse Show in Windsor
.

TRADITIONAL...



An engraving from 1740
showing a
leopard-spotted horse
belonging to
the Holy Roman Emperor.


Preparing for
Riderless Horse Ceremony
October, 1996,
Fort Walsh,
Canada


PROTESTANT
Prince of WALES...


...on Chief JOSEPH Horse.

Last edited by vera susa; 11-05-2008 at 04:06 PM.
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Post  true lilly on Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:17 am

Well I've got buckley's of catching up with the cats,
especially with so many KEY posts REMOVED, but
at least folk can see that 'cats' and 'judeo/christian'
myths written recently by 'judeo/christian' politicians,
who can't agree about KEY details of the Myths they sell,
are the only counter argument 'they' have to
THE KEY QUESTION, 'they' REFUSE to answer:

WHY DO THEY ALL IGNORE that GOD SAID;
ALL the world, ALL the earth, ALL peoples,
FROM THE BEGINNING?


true lilly wrote:IGNORE:
you DON'T have to scroll through "el kabong/billy" SPAM;
there IS AN IGNORE FUNCTION.

Likewise, you don't have to read my posts, no one does (but 'they' do Wink Smile),
but if you do chose to skip 'their' UN-SOURCED, LONG AGO BE-DUNKED,


cut & past ALL OVER THE NET, PRO-Religious WAR Propaganda,
you will see just how much OFF TOPIC TRASH 'they' throw in my threads,
by their names in a post heading, telling you 'they' DID IT AGAIN & AGAIN &..
Rolling Eyes ,
and then if you multiply it by those huge ranting, rambling blocks of letters are,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how important it is to 'them', that what I post,
REMAIN, BURIED and HIDDEN.




P.S. it will fix the problem retrospectively, you can go back and see,
just the posts of those posting what you haven't already seen,
shoved down your throat, on every, conspiracy, 'new age' woo woo
and political site, for years, and all making things worse.


P.P.S. the more 'they' suddenly SPAM,
the more important the preceding post/s was/were.
Wink Very Happy


P.P.P.S.
Evil or Very Mad
Evil or Very Mad BREIVIK, ASSANGE,
WIKIleaks, WIKIpedia,
DAVID ICKE,

i_am,

"Team tintin"; Cori, Evil or Very Mad

[size=16] Evil or Very Mad Billy Ruben, el kabong, Ciggy,
amethyst, yass, nobodyswife, vasudha, ninny,
sean, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave, measle_weasel,
merlincove, runlikehell, ownoiz, tinyint, jesuitsdidit
kun21, rodin, edelweiss, raginggran, ♥️WW♥️, Lyd, LilyAllen,
snoopsnuffleopagus,
Twisted Evil list NOT exhaustive.

true lilly wrote:
dixie d wrote:



06-08-2011, 02:30 PM #30011

yass wrote:yass


You're right it very much has that
affect with the arm and probably intended. I first magnified the pic
and couldn't help but notice that very curved nose, very defined.

Good call.

dixie d wrote:


06-08-2011, 02:40 PM #30013

Only a thought, but which calendar are you using, that's if it makes a difference of course.

Originally Posted by yass

Dixie, calendar, me, you serious? I click on the time icon at the bottom right of my computer screen for my calendar needs.
I was referring to calculations for Elenin comet. I doubt they
would have be using the Gregorian Calender in those days
, that was all I

was referring to.

The trouble with these forums, is that when you reply to some posts,
half the post is missing.


Last edited by dixie d; 06-08-2011 at 02:45 PM.
THE MISSING BIT:

ninny wrote:

WAR OF THE WORLDS

i would associate this:
11/9/11


link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856

ninny wrote:

Originally Posted by ninny

yes, looks a little bit disabled. not a good photograph.
reminds me of greek statues:

You're right it very much has that affect with the arm and
probably intended. I first magnified the pic and couldn't help but
notice that very curved nose, very defined.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ninny

This radio reporter and UFO and million listeners, I think that was a hoax.
because this reminds me of:

WAR OF THE WORLDS

i would associate this:
11/9/11


link: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=17856

Good call.
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IGNORING ALL THESE
cori
yassninny
TRAITOROUS, CODED ORDER posting,
WAR MONGERING, "date", number & letter TWISTING W
Omen
that post with "tintin", would be wise...lest you want to be caught
with "them" in the DRAGNET of "their" own NET.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cycles of time

mayans/aztecs and other indiginious of that region believe that death is just the gateway to another more spiritual plane of life. they honour death. much of the sacrifices that took place were voluntary.

and pyramids were the easiest structures to build . its common sense when it comes to architecture.

Sounds 'comforting' don't it. "SWEET WORDS THAT TICKLE THE EAR".

There is a reason that ISRAEL was

DELIVERED OUT OF MITSRAYIM, The AMERICAS.
DEATH WORSHIP....that was translated MUCH LATER into Egypt.


Likewise that RAINBOW/FEATHERED SERPENT in common with

both OZ and Ancient America, here in OZ, they WARN that when
it's RAISED AGAIN, ALL HEAVY SHIT HITS THE FAN!

They KNEW what they where escaping, The BEAST'S Rule!


But yes, the FIRST death is into sleep, not that bad, not anything,

just unconsciousness, but "They" twisted it out of truth and turned it
into "justification" for HUMAN SACRIFICE, and ALL the PUSHERS of
that seduction into DEATH WORSHIP, WILL are going to be MIGHTY
BLOODY SORRY when they're Resurrected from that First death,
to FACE GOD and "Have Their Account Settled".

So here again, we have two examples of people considered 'extinct',


due to those DEATH WORSHIPERS of this LAST KINGDOM Age. LOOK
CLOSELY at the face of the AUSTRALIAN standing man in the hat
and the face of the SOUTH AMERICA stone head of 'peoples unknown'.




If you can't SEE the SAME people with the SAME style,

it can only be 'spiritual blindness'.
[quote="true lilly"]Originally Posted by vera susa

(attached image at link below)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1673

7 + 7 + 7 = 21 = 2 + 1 = 3 = TRINITY = TRIANGLE = PYRAMID = EGYPT.

This is a DEATH/SACRIFICE CULT, "JOKE",
because as we know, there are PYRAMIDS,
ALL OVER THE WORLD,
but they are mainly like these...





NOT quite "TRIANGLES like the "FAMOUS ONES" in Egypt,
but like these from the Land these people now 'said' to EXTINCT,
lived in. SOUTH AMERICA...





Like these people also 'said' to be EXTINCT,
from TASMANIA of the Land of OZ[ION]...


But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES!

The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM,
is that it causes
the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED
into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE
of
TOES of IRON MINGLED with CLAY,
"as if" it is 'many' of those ages, so
WE MISS ALL THE CURRENT SIGNS
of WARNING,
and HATE and BLAME GOD
for 'not' KEEPING HIS PROMISES
instead of
SEEING that in FACT,
HE HAS KEPT THEM ALL!

Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1676


...some perspective...
http://www.yukiba.com/2399-peru-south-america-photo.html




PERU...pooped all over anything in Egypt...
...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build...



Ancient cave paintings in...not OZ...



Ancient cave paintings in Patagonia, southern Argentina




...have a real, close, look...

http://www.zazzle.com.au/world_map_upside_down_postcard-239671036251018558

Well I've got buckley's of catching up with the cats,
especially with so many KEY posts REMOVED, but
at least folk can see that 'cats' and 'judeo/christian'
myths written recently by 'judeo/christian' politicians,
who can't agree about KEY details of the Myths they sell,
are the only counter argument 'they' have to
THE KEY QUESTION, 'they' REFUSE to answer:

WHY DO THEY ALL IGNORE that GOD SAID;
ALL the world, ALL the earth, ALL peoples,
FROM THE BEGINNING?
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Israel is the Promised Land, NOT Australia.

Post  MoMo on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:40 am

Israel is the Promised Land, NOT Australia. thumbs up

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IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg

50b: Sleeping Beauty, part 2



In Bereshit we read of the significant encounter between Avraham and Malkitzedek, king of Shalem. According to the biblical commentator Moshe David Cassuto, the Torah intends to convey "that Jerusalem was a holy city. [This was] an eternal holiness, extending since time immemorial, and even when it was populated by idol worshippers, who were accustomed to worshipping many gods, its inhabitants could not but worship their highest God," who is essentially identical to the one God of Scriptural monotheism.

Rashi gleans something else from this encounter. Our rights to the land are not the result of a divine promise accompanied by military conquest. Our Sages emphasized our "historical rights" to the land. Rashi describes how the children of Shem lived in the Land according to the original division among the sons of Noach, and how "the Canaanites were conquering the land of Israel from the children of Shem." On the background of this unjust conquest, which destroyed the original harmony between the peoples of the world, Avraham, a descendent of Shem, appears upon the stage of history. He meets with one of the last Shemite kings of Jerusalem, before they were destroyed by the Jebusites. This was Malkitzedek king of Shalem (Bereshit 14:18-20): "And Malkitzedek king of Shalem brought out bread and wine, and he was a priest of the highest God. And he blessed him and said, blessed is Avraham of the highest God, ruler of heaven and earth." In this encounter, the last remaining Shemite monotheistic priest meets Avraham and prophesies, "[God] will someday return [Jerusalem] to your children, who are the descendants of Shem" (Rashi, on Bereshit 12:6).

The Rambam teaches an additional unique aspect of Jerusalem. In his "Guide For The Perplexed" [3,45] he suggests that Jerusalem is referred to in the Bible as "the place which He will choose," without calling it explicitly by name, for political reasons. The name of the place was hidden so that "the nations would not hold onto it and fight a powerful war over it, as they would if they knew that this place on earth was the source of the Torah." Sadly, this attempt did not help, and the struggles over Jerusalem continue to this day. Political struggles have a mechanism of their own. In Jerusalem, a religious struggle exists as well.

The Jewish people return to their land with a demand for justice that is beyond law. No one disputes the spiritual ownership of other religions. This is one of the great tests of humanity. Will they recognize the rights of the father who has returned to life and to youth, to live in his own land?

Jerusalem was conquered by Christians and by Muslims. However, Jerusalem is holy to the Jews not because of an event that occurred in it, nor because of a building in it, but because of very essence. The Temple could burn down, foreign temples could be built in its place, and yet the connection with the land remains, as though nothing has changed. Thus, the Jewish people mourned over Jerusalem, and thus Rihal expressed the longing of Jerusalem for its people:

"Zion, will you not inquire after your prisoners who inquire after you, and are the remnant of your flock...
I cry endless tears to bewail your suffering, and when I dream of the return of your exiles, I am a violin for your songs."

Whoever has read Mark Twain's description of the parched land, so barren that he felt this could not possibly be the land of which the Bible speaks, understands what the renewal and rebirth of the land means.

The Ramban saw the double tragedy as the symbol of the deepest expression of the love between the people and the land. The nation could not rest peacefully in any other place in the world, and the land would not bear fruit for any foreign conqueror. It patiently awaited the return of its people.



IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg


51a: The Land of Israel

The Paradox



We will now reopen our discussion of the uniqueness of the Land of Israel, the great paradox we have been living since the birth of Judaism in the first pages of the Scriptures. Before God there are no political or geographical boundaries, there are no boundaries of nations or of countries. And yet, the great message of this universalism is expressed in two particularisms, two uniquenesses: the uniqueness of the People and the uniqueness of the Land. The paradox teaches us that uniqueness is the path to universalism. The uniqueness of the Jewish people is part of a plan that will lead us and the nations of the world to the end of days, a plan for the redemption of the entire world. In this plan, the descendants of the Forefathers hold a unique place and position.

This paradox was a focal point of constant debate with many thinkers, particularly those who have stemmed from Judaism and have accepted some of the general principles of our Torah. The Scriptures proclaimed that Avraham would become the father of many nations.
And indeed, many nations have accepted the Torah of the Forefathers. However, many of them wished to accept these principles while erasing the name of the Jews. Sometimes this was done by actual killing of Jews, and generally it was done by stealing their identity, by claiming that they themselves are the true Jewish people.


Models
The paradox of uniqueness demands an explanation from within as well. Rihal uses biological and climatic models to explain his central thesis. In my opinion, the reader has a certain amount of freedom here. He can accept these explanations as they are, or he can suggest corrections that lift these explanations to a higher plane. Rihal attempts to analyze a difficult and central issue, but he lacks the tools for the job. He saw the biological and climatic theories as models to explain his reality. Thus, for example, Rihal used the fact that certain traits are present in the grandfather, disappear in the father and reappear in the third generation.

In this way, Rihal wished to convey the surprising idea that traits can reappear despite an apparent break in continuity and education: that there can be resurrection after surcease. What Rihal describes is a return to something that does not come from without but that already exists within. The biological model is wonderful, because it demonstrates that potential can exist, for example in genetic makeup, and not be expressed outwardly. The difference in genetics between a genotype and a phenotype is the difference between uniqueness and choseness. There are traits that remain hidden because of the environment in which the organism develops; however the genotype, the uniqueness, the inner potential, continues to exist. This description is true of the nation as well. This is the essence of the principle of eternal uniqueness in the philosophies of Rihal, the Maharal and Rav Kook.

Territory

This topic brings us to the place of territory in Jewish thought. We are better equipped, thank God, to discuss this question than previous generations, who read Rihal's philosophy regarding the land of Israel yet were severed from it. Here in the land of Israel we face the full significance of Rihal's writings on the subject, as well as the difficult dilemmas that the topic raises.

One can view the land of Israel as the place where the Jewish state resides. This is an instrumental view, in which territory becomes a vehicle. Like a house, a country is a place in which we live, and it constitutes, in the largest sense of the word, a vehicle, a tool necessary for our survival. This is a rational approach, and stands as one the principles of Zionism. This principle implies that Jewish existence in the Diaspora was abnormal and unhealthy, and that the nation must be healed and rehabilitated through Zionism. This can be compared to a cripple who has lost the use of his hands and legs, and who hopes for the return of their powers. The hands and legs represent the two central characteristics of political existence in an independent state. The hands represent the nation's ability to defend itself militarily, while the legs symbolize the connection to the territory. If we were to go in this direction we would reach the territorial basis necessary for the justification of the Zionist idea, and seemingly this would be enough. However, here we must learn the great lesson of the Kuzari.

Let us jump to the end of the book. At the end of the book, the Chaver bids farewell to the king and prepares to journey to the land of Israel. "After these events the Chaver decided to leave the land of the Khazars and journey to Jerusalem." The king is astonished:
"And the departure of the Chaver was difficult for the Kuzari and he spoke to him of it, saying, 'what is there to find in the land of Israel today, since the Holy Presence has left it? And since the closeness of God can be achieved in any location by a pure heart and a strong desire; and why should you place yourself at the peril of the deserts and the seas and the hatred of the various peoples?'" (5:22)

This question of the Kuzari king must amaze us. Since the very first discourse, Rihal has emphasized the significance of the Land of Israel. His journey to the Land of Israel is the necessary and logical result of all he has been saying and writing. If so, why is the Kuzari king surprised? The answer lies in the recognition of a paradox, which is expressed at the end of the book, and sheds a different light upon the entire book. The Chaver had built a Jewish state in the land of the Khazars! Not only that, but his place in that state is comparable to the role of the philosopher, who guides the king in his leadership of the ideal kingdom. We can understand the significance of this ideal state when we read the letter that Hasdai Ibn Shaprut wrote to the Kuzari king.

He writes:
"If there is a place where there is a beacon and a kingdom for the exiles of Israel and they are not tyrannized or controlled, and if I knew that this was true, I would despise my own honor and depart from my greatness and desert my family and would speedily go up mountains, over land or sea, until I would reach the place where my lord the king rules to see his greatness and his glory and the residence of his subjects and the superiority of his servants and the repose of the exiles of Israel. And upon seeing his greatness and glory, my eyes would alight and my innards rejoice and my lips would praise the One who had not withheld His bounty from my forlorn nation."

Hasdai Ibn Shaprut, the Jewish minister of the highest personal and political status in the Caliphate in Cordova, claims that he would abandon all of his honor and become a simple subject in the Jewish state in which the Jews have independence. This state has religious significance as well:
"For how can I bleed for the destruction of our glorious House and for the few saved from the sword who went through fire and water, who are but a small remainder and have lost our honor and dwell in exile, and God does not assist us against those who say to us all the day, 'every nation has a kingdom and you have no remembrance in the land.'"

And a Jewish state exists, the kingdom of the Khazars. However, Rihal instructs us through the paradox of his own life and choices. The Chaver abandons a Jewish state, nobility, independence and everything that goes along with it, in order to travel to a place that is under foreign rule. This place is the Land of Israel. Here we learn the great lesson. Our attitude towards the Land of Israel is not one of territory, in which, by chance, a Jewish state exists. We relate to it as our destiny, and view the encounter with it as part of our essence as Jews. Jewish sovereignty and independence are significant, but so is our relationship to the Land of Israel. At the end of the book we will learn how Rihal envisioned the ultimate return to the Land of Israel and the redemption. Herein lies the mystery and the paradox. The return to the Land of Israel is not a tool or a means. What we have here is here a relationship of encounter, a cosmic meeting of those intended for each other from the beginning of time. Just as it is written that every person's marriage partner is announced in Heaven forty days before his birth, so too it is announced that a particular field in the Land is intended for a particular person. Our Sages wished to teach us the romantic idea that the connection between a couple exists before they meet for the first time, and that their meeting is not a chance occurrence. So too the relationship between the People and the Land is more than a chance occurrence. The relationship was written in the books of destiny.
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IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE KUZARI:
AN INTRODUCTION TO JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

by Prof. Shalom Rosenberg

51b: The Land Of Israel, Part 2



What mysterious force lies behind the relationship of the People and the Land? What makes a particular union successful and unique? Here we enter into theories and models. Rihal attempts to describe it through a unique approach to the climate of the Land of Israel. We find a similar approach in the writings of Rambam. However, he limits the explanation, when he claims that this climate is not unique to the Land but characterizes the entire region. This is actually stated explicitly by Rihal:

"And Ever was the designated progeny of Shem...since his inheritance was the lands of comfortable climates, at the center of which is placed the coveted land, the land of Canaan, the land of prophecy." (1:95)

Thus, we find that the climatic condition is necessary but not sufficient. The Land of Israel is unique in that its climate integrates heat and cold. In other words, it unites the characteristics of those places lacking the conditions for creating a great civilization and a sophisticated culture. And indeed, both the inception and the development of civilization took place in the temperate climates.

Beyond the geographical conditions there is a mystical reality, a spiritual uniqueness of the Land, which makes it a place where prophecy can become a reality. The Land of Israel is the destined location of the ultimate encounter between the Jewish nation and God, the place destined for prophecy and redemption.

This approach to the Land of Israel perhaps can only be understood in categories of love. A person can consider a prospective mate according to the size of the dowry or other monetary interests, as a means to advance one's career or one's social status, etc. These are purely rational reasons. However, we all know that this is not enough, and justifiably so. Beyond these things we expect something more, something irrational and emotional, something we can only describe as love. The word love describes the relationship between the People and the Land. The book of Bereshit describes how the Great Matchmaker, the Creator himself, took Avraham, the father of the Jewish nation, and brought him to the Land of Israel. There he would found his nation, and there the great encounter between the Jewish people and God will ultimately take place. The encounter between the People and the Land is also a condition of redemption.

Thank God, for us no contradiction exists between the instrumental approach and what we might term the romantic approach. We must realize how fortunate we are, to live in the age where, after so much trial and suffering, these approaches finally merge. The distinction between the two approaches to the People and the Land was illustrated through a historical dilemma: Uganda or Palestine? The instrumental approach demanded searching for territory somewhere. This was called the territorial position. It was opposed by the position that spoke about the Land of Israel. Both approaches are important, and the Kuzari state and the other Jewish states that arose in the Diaspora were not a crime, but neither did they bring salvation. There were many Jews who did not think it a crime to live in the Diaspora but who considered the creation of a Jewish state in the Diaspora a betrayal of their allegiance to the Land of Israel.

These issues are important because of their current implications. We are faced with dilemmas that center around the ideals of the redemption of the People and of the Land. We will not enter into politics here. Politics means solving these dilemmas in a particular way. However, understanding the dilemmas is beyond politics. We must always be aware of the two-sidedness of our relationship to the Land. On the one hand, the instrumental relationship to a home, and on the other hand, the relationship to something that cannot be replaced. This relationship is represented in the Scriptures and in later literature by the classic image of the relationship to a mother. The Land is perceived as a mother to some individuals, and as a wife to the nation. We express this relationship through loyalty, love and respect.

The Land of Israel

As we have seen, the content of Jewish thought focuses around three central points: Creation, Revelation and Redemption. History is a process with many twists and turns; however, it ultimately leads us from Creation to Redemption through Revelation.

The Land of Israel symbolizes creation. The Land of Israel is also the land of prophecy.

The sacrifice of Yitzchak connects to the second point: Revelation. Just as Avraham was called to the Land of Israel from a foreign country, "Go ... to the land that I will show you" (Bereshit 12:1), so too he is called forth after entering the Land of Israel: "Go ... to one of the mountains that I will show you" (ibid. 22:2).

Here, too, Avraham follows the call to a place that he does not know, and only when he reaches it does God inform him that this is the place that God had destined for the great drama of the sacrifice of Isaac. Avraham's going reveals the holiness within the holiness. Avraham learned to recognize the holiness of the Land of Israel when he reached it. The holiness of Jerusalem had to be revealed much later, at the final trial.

The mount of the sacrifice, say the Scriptures, is the "mountain where God appeared," the place of revelation, the encounter with God. On this mountain the Temple will be built, the Temple in which man will encounter the Divine Presence. The Scriptures themselves are aware of the paradox in this claim. In king Shlomo's prayer in the Book of Melakhim we read,
"For can it be that God resides on the earth, behold the heavens and the highest firmaments cannot contain You, how can this House I have built [contain You]?" (Melakhim I, 8:27)

However, divine transcendence left room also for the immanence that is connected to "this place...and You will hearken from the heavens" (ibid. 8:29-32).

Revelation is expressed in two ways: in the personal encounter, and in the collective revelation of the Torah. Next to the Temple sat the Great Court, whose role was to teach Torah to the entire people of Israel.

The third point that is encompassed in Jerusalem is connected to the future: the Redemption. This idea means the triumph of good in the various circles of human activity: the national, the human-universal and the cosmic.


The national redemption is the return of the Jewish people to their Land. When the Jew prays for redemption, he prays to the God who "will rebuild Jerusalem," and adds, "may our eyes witness Your merciful return to Jerusalem. Blessed are You God, who will return His Presence to Zion." The redemption is the renewed meeting of the three: the People, the Land and the Divine Presence, the divine immanence.

Jerusalem is also the axle upon which the human-universal redemption turns as well. The mountain that was the center of spiritual heights for the Jewish people will become a center of inspiration and education for the entire world.



"And in the end of days the mount of the house of God will be placed above all mountains and rise above all hills and all the nations will swarm towards it. And many nations will go saying, come let us go up to the mountain of God, to the House of the God of Ya'akov, and He will teach us of His ways and we will follow in His paths, for Torah will go forth from Zion and the word of God from Jerusalem." (Yishayahu 2:2-3)

The particularism of the choosing of a People and a Land are thus merged with absolute universalism. The People and the Land preserved the Torah, so that it would spread among all the nations, and whose central expression is universal peace: "And they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks, nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they study war any more" (ibid. 2:4).

In Jewish tradition, Jerusalem is also the center of the cosmic redemption. Yishayahu's vision, "and the wolf shall dwell with the lamb" (Yishayahu 11:6) is obviously an allegory for the ideal international relations that will reign in the messianic era. However, it is also a hint at a religious utopia, in which even the natural reality will change.

Various verses in Yechezkel hint at future changes in Jerusalem. A spring will gush from it, and from it powerful rivers will stream forth, which will even heal the Dead Sea. Clearly, these are references to the ancient Garden of Eden.

And indeed certain commentators have understood it in this way. According to their interpretation, the Garden that God planted in Eden underwent a catastrophic change as a result of the sin; however, with the advent of the redemption it will revert to its original state. The Garden of Eden is the Land of Israel, and its center is Jerusalem.

If this motif exists in the Scriptural tradition, then the symbolism of the Holy Temple can be understood in its light as well. At its center, as in the Garden of Eden, the Keruvim protected the Tree of Life, which is none other than the Torah - the word of God
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Post  MoMo on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:48 am

true lilly wrote: Well I've got buckley's of catching up with the cats,
especially with so many KEY posts REMOVED, but
at least folk can see that 'cats' and 'judeo/christian'
myths written recently by 'judeo/christian' politicians,
who can't agree about KEY details of the Myths they sell,
are the only counter argument 'they' have to
THE KEY QUESTION, 'they' REFUSE to answer:

WHY DO THEY ALL IGNORE that GOD SAID;
ALL the world, ALL the earth, ALL peoples,
FROM THE BEGINNING?


but by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, myths written recently by 'judeo/christian' politicians,
who can't agree about KEY details of the Myths they sell,
are the only counter argument 'they' have to
THE KEY QUESTION, 'they' REFUSE to answer:

WHY DO THEY ALL IGNORE that GOD SAID;
ALL the world, ALL the earth, ALL peoples,
FROM THE BEGINNING?
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lilly, you are a paronoid schizophrenic, the Bible was written BEFORE Alexander, he did not change the Jews History. You are an Antisemitic liar, like Hitler.
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The History was written in an alephbet BEFORE the Greeks had an Alphabet. thumbs up If you would actually bother to read it, it includes all Humankind and the whole world. thumbs up

Check it out, see for yourself. If any of Lilly the Queen of Bullshit 'readers' would like to debate me, sign in. Lilly, the Queen of Bullshit ignores all the Archaeological, Linguistic and Historical evidence and just makes shit up. thumbs down

26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good




Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....



One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.


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Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life


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One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode..............Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamis.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt.etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Realtivist may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, lo those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Book of Yahwehs/Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the ANE Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
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